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Speaker 1: Welcome, good morning, Good morning Scott, Good morning, Mark Wessell.

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Speaker 1: How you doing today?

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Speaker 2: Oh, Brian Bush bright eyed and bushtail raid role here, yep,

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Speaker 2: here we are real chipper today.

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Speaker 1: I'm not it's too early, it's too hot. We'll talk

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Speaker 1: about both those things later. But yeah, you're listening to

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Speaker 1: Let's Garden with Scott Berline. I am here with Mark Wessell,

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Speaker 1: Chief fort a culturist with gardens Alive, which is gurnees, uh,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, cavan borgand Michigan bab is not a thing anymore.

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Speaker 2: Oh that's right, that's right, Yeah, spring Hill he got

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Speaker 2: absorbed in. Yeah, so welcome, thanks.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, good to be here. We have I think a

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Speaker 1: fun show for today. Well we've got Joe Box coming

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Speaker 1: at eight o'clock. Joe. Yeah, you have questions already for them,

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Speaker 1: don't you.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, fungus, fungus among us, all those things. And uh,

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Speaker 1: just to let you know, uh, Ron rothis is out

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Speaker 1: reach me, reach out to me at my iHeart email address.

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Speaker 1: Scott Berlin that's b e U E R L E

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Speaker 1: I A at iHeartMedia dot com. And we are working

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Speaker 1: on a website. We'll have it sooner or later, but

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Speaker 1: for now, that's a good way to reach me if

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Speaker 1: you have questions, concerns, ideas, any any kind of feedback.

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Speaker 2: With questions and concerns.

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Speaker 1: No, no, not yet, I'm waiting. I'm hoping. Actually, I

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Speaker 1: guess you're perfect. Mark Wessell. How would you're from the country,

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Speaker 1: you grew up in New Richmond. How would h country

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Speaker 1: folk such as yourself refer to this weather we are

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Speaker 1: having right now?

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Speaker 2: Well, let me take the straw out of my head, Timothy,

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Speaker 2: out of my mouth here and tell you no, just

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Speaker 2: like you would. Is it a real scorcher, It's a

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Speaker 2: real scorture. I don't know, boy, it's bad.

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Speaker 1: We're in the heart of it. We're in Cincinnati, Ohio,

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Speaker 1: and it's all around like from Kansas City all the

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Speaker 1: way down to Washington, d C. Washington sounds absolutely miserable.

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Speaker 1: One hundred and seven or something today with the heating

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Speaker 2: Have a problem with heat index. Just give us the

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Speaker 2: temperature and then you go outside. You know how bad

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Speaker 2: it feels.

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Speaker 1: No, I think the heat index is very important because

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Speaker 1: you know, you go out in one hundred and seven

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Speaker 1: in Arizona, it's a lot different than one hundred and seven. Well,

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Speaker 1: like the real temperature in Arizona, one oh seven is

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Speaker 2: Kind of kind of. But we're not in Arizona, and

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Speaker 2: they always say, oh, that dry heat, which is nice

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Speaker 2: to have dry heat. When it's over one hundred out

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Speaker 2: there's bad and it's it's like you're in an oven.

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Speaker 1: I was out there once when I was one hundred

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Speaker 2: Ouch.

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Speaker 1: You do not want to be wearing shorts and sit

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Speaker 1: on a seat belt buckle. You're branded for life. What

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Speaker 1: ranch are you from. I'm from the Ford seat belt buckle,

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Speaker 1: you know. Oh man, Yeah, it's pretty bad. So yeah,

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Speaker 1: the surface of the sun is ten thousand degrees.

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Speaker 2: You don't hear those folks complain.

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Speaker 1: No, you never do. That's only nine and ninety five

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Speaker 1: it's actually more than I have saved up for retirement. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: uh what else is going on here? Mark? I think

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Speaker 1: so you're ready for these? I'm ready. So it's a

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Speaker 1: new month. I ran through you again. You didn't listen

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Speaker 1: So July is the month of Fragile ex Awareness month,

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Speaker 1: Disability Pride month, Independent Retailer month, so get to your

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Speaker 1: independent garden center. Cell Phone courtesy month. Oh I know

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Speaker 1: Okay, that's a good warning. Contract sewing Month. I actually

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Speaker 1: looked this up. So it's recognizing seamstresses, machine operators, engineers,

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Speaker 1: It's Hemp month, Anti Boredom Month, Culinary Arts month. Now

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Speaker 1: starting this is really clever. It's also National Picnic Month,

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Speaker 1: which of course makes sense for July, right except during

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Speaker 1: a heat wave picnic month? So what are you gonna

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Speaker 1: do during picnic month? You're gonna It's National grilling Month.

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Speaker 1: What are you going to grill? When you grill hot dogs?

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Speaker 1: It's National hot Dog Month. You want something to eat

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Speaker 1: with your hot dog? Why not baked beans. It's National

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Speaker 1: Baked Beans Month. Maybe you want a little extra oomph

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Speaker 1: also National Blueberry and Peach Month, so you can have

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Speaker 1: And if you want desserted, it's National ice cream Month

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Speaker 1: as well. M it's pretty amazing. It's really well done,

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Speaker 1: very clever, Scott. I worked hard on that. I just

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Speaker 1: put it all. I like, I saw the the narrative there,

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Speaker 1: out well. Yeah, thank you. This week of July, it's

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Speaker 1: never had a problem state Pine Barons, Pine Baron's really cool,

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Speaker 1: it's really good bus ride. Yeah, okay the sixty three

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Speaker 1: and then we'll go into the days of So you

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Speaker 1: Welcome back. You're listening to Let's Guarden with Scott Berline

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Speaker 1: and with Mark Wessel. Good morning Mark. We're just about

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Speaker 1: to launch into the days of the week of July fourth,

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Speaker 1: July fourth being a major American holiday, and I'm just

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Speaker 1: Night Saturday, July fourth, National. Well, it was Independence Day

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Speaker 1: two hundred and fifty years. Wow, I know, I remember

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Speaker 1: was really cool. I remember, especially the tall ships through

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Speaker 1: in Wonderland Day. Caesar Salad Day named after Caesar Cardini,

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Speaker 1: an Italian American chef who invented the dish in Tijuana,

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Speaker 1: Mexico in nineteen twenty four. Tijuana. Yeah, he lived in

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Speaker 1: So well, the rest is history. The rest is history.

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Speaker 1: Apparently everybody must have loved it. They carried him around

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Speaker 1: no good top a park day, So that's basically park hopping.

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Speaker 1: IDEA Barbecue spare ribs Day, that's something you can put

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Speaker 1: No, and anything that that's vegan that looks like spare

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Speaker 1: July Fit Tomorrow Bikini Day, all right now you're talking yep,

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Speaker 1: Welcome back. You're listening to That's Garden with Scott Berline.

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Speaker 1: That's me, and across from me is Mark Wessell f

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Speaker 1: my Gardens Alive, chief horticulturist. That's right, and one of

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Speaker 2: Yes, I grew up loving plants and animals and insects.

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Speaker 1: And you're you're you're basically a naturalist.

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Speaker 2: It's a pretty cool plant. I saw just the other day.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, again and again. Yeah, it's pretty rare, but I'm

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00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:27,679
Speaker 1: seeing more of it, and it always looks great. Aphrodite callicanthus.

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00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:30,760
Speaker 1: What is that the common name on callicanthus. It's spice

429
00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:33,440
Speaker 1: shrub or something sweet sweet trub, sweet trub.

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00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:36,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, is aphrodite, the white one.

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00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:44,720
Speaker 1: Aphrodite is the it's a red. It's the hybrid. There's

432
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Speaker 1: heartledge wine and then there's aphrodite and aphrodite. The heartledge

433
00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:52,760
Speaker 1: wine is is earlier and it's done and Aphrodite is

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Speaker 1: still kicking, so both are really good. It's just aphrodites

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Speaker 1: a little bit later.

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Speaker 2: Interesting group of plants.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 2: I was kind of relegated to plant collector's plant. Yeah,

439
00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:06,720
Speaker 2: you know, geeky people. But you're seeing it more and more.

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00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:10,600
Speaker 1: It's a tough shrub. It gets big, probably twelve feet

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00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:12,280
Speaker 1: minimum round tall.

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Speaker 2: Is Aphroditi fragrant not really?

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00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:22,200
Speaker 1: No, Oh they're good too, Yeah, but it's deerproof, it's

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00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:25,960
Speaker 1: shade tolerant. It's pretty much everything you'd want in a

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00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:30,080
Speaker 1: big shrub. Gray for screening, blooming in your yard. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and at the zoo since zoo and potatical garden where

447
00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:37,440
Speaker 1: I work, the hydrogen peniculatas are coming in. I noticed

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00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:41,320
Speaker 1: the other day Firelight and Pinky Winky both in full bloom.

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00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:44,720
Speaker 2: Pinky Winky. Yeah, they're getting earlier and earlier with their

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Speaker 2: bloom on them.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. And these aren't even the earliest ones. Yeah, yeah,

452
00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:51,320
Speaker 1: these are mid early I guess you would say.

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00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:54,200
Speaker 2: It brings me to a point. Sometimes they push the

454
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Speaker 2: seasons on things and they suddenly get out of place,

455
00:28:58,320 --> 00:28:59,920
Speaker 2: like those super early particulars.

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00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:03,360
Speaker 1: They feel weird early on. I mean, I guess there's

457
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Speaker 1: uses for them, but I guess we'll get used to it.

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00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:07,720
Speaker 1: I was just thinking the other day, that's like they've

459
00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:09,600
Speaker 1: got to be more careful how they picked their names,

460
00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:13,120
Speaker 1: like pinky winkies. Just it's just can you imagine, you know,

461
00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:16,520
Speaker 1: a landscaper on the phone, you know, give me one

462
00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:18,560
Speaker 1: hundred more of them pinky winkies.

463
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Speaker 2: It's embarrassing for that person to even.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, and it's like getting them complaining, like

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00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:27,760
Speaker 1: you know, uh, ninety of them look great, but ten

466
00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:30,120
Speaker 1: of them look like crap. I'm refusing them. You got

467
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Speaker 1: to send me ten more, you know, I demand the

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00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:37,560
Speaker 1: best pinky winkies you got. I think, you know, they

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Speaker 1: think in terms of homeowners, but landscapers they have trouble

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Speaker 1: with names like that like Bobo, Yeah, I need one

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Speaker 1: hundred and fifty bobos or I don't know some of

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00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:54,880
Speaker 1: these other names. Just anyway, but your it's time for you.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, oh Scott. The Echinasha are just incredible. That

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Speaker 1: cone flowers seems like a good year.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I'm not, They're just all of them look great,

476
00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:10,240
Speaker 2: just your classic purple cone flowers, you know, tall, classic,

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00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:19,760
Speaker 2: great plant. I visited the Rockdale Academy. Yeah, man, there

478
00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:20,960
Speaker 2: and Tennessee Ensis.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I love that. That's a cute little plant. Yeah yeah.

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Speaker 1: I was noticing at Rockdale literally last week that the

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00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:35,520
Speaker 1: series Cheyenne Spirit uh not series, but seed String is

482
00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:38,560
Speaker 1: really looking great. It's been there for a while. Sometimes

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00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:42,040
Speaker 1: with Echinasia that kind of revert back. Seedlings come up

484
00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:44,720
Speaker 1: and you don't know what you're getting. But with that series,

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00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:47,720
Speaker 1: it seems the hole steady pretty well. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Sure has been a lot of Echinasia has really had

487
00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:54,680
Speaker 2: such a transformation from when I started.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, man, you know that one series. I think the

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00:30:57,680 --> 00:31:03,040
Speaker 1: Sombrero series is just the colors are on real are

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00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:07,520
Speaker 1: I'm going to mention Rubus odoratus, which is fragrant raspberry.

491
00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:12,000
Speaker 1: It's a native. I saw it growing on a cliff

492
00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:16,560
Speaker 1: side in State Park in New York, and I was

493
00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:20,280
Speaker 1: blown away because I didn't realize that's where it naturally grows.

494
00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:23,080
Speaker 1: I guess it's adaptive, but it's doing great in my

495
00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:27,760
Speaker 1: yard in pretty heavy shade. It kind of dwindled down

496
00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:29,400
Speaker 1: a little bit over the last couple of years, I

497
00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:32,680
Speaker 1: think because of the droughts, but this year, with the

498
00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:36,800
Speaker 1: cool spring and the rain, just lush and beautiful, big

499
00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:38,040
Speaker 1: maple like leaves.

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00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:40,440
Speaker 2: Quite attractive foliage plant.

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00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:42,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, and the flower is pretty too. I don't know

502
00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:45,240
Speaker 1: where Odoratus comes from because I never detect a sect

503
00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:49,000
Speaker 1: from the flower. But it's a big, i'd say, what

504
00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:55,320
Speaker 1: a silver dollar sized flower. Kind of a pink pink yeah,

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00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:59,600
Speaker 1: classic rose family plant. Mine is growing in really heavy shade.

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00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:02,960
Speaker 1: But I think it takes. It takes full sun well

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00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:06,160
Speaker 1: to you get fruit. I do, and supposedly it's edible,

508
00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:08,600
Speaker 1: but it's always sort of dry and it's not really

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00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:12,240
Speaker 1: edible as far as I can tell. What else you got?

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00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:16,000
Speaker 2: Oh, the butterfly weed just driving down the highway, Yeah,

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00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:16,720
Speaker 2: that's looking good.

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00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:20,240
Speaker 1: And the orange orange milk weed? Did you find that one?

513
00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:22,320
Speaker 1: Hard to establish? But once I mean it's one of

514
00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:24,760
Speaker 1: those plants. Once you establish it, it's there for life.

515
00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:26,960
Speaker 1: But it's I've had hit or miss lucky.

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00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:31,440
Speaker 2: I've planted it several times, and you know, suspect areas

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00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:32,240
Speaker 2: to start.

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00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:34,640
Speaker 1: With, Yeah, because you know that's what it likes. And

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00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:37,240
Speaker 1: you know I haven't. I haven't planned much of that one.

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00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:39,840
Speaker 2: I haven't either, just enjoyed along the roads and in

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Speaker 2: the fields.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, me too.

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00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:45,040
Speaker 2: And if you mow the field, which is unfortunate, but

524
00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:49,160
Speaker 2: I know this from where I grew up. After it's finished,

525
00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:51,600
Speaker 2: it'll flush again and bloom kind of late summer.

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00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:54,080
Speaker 1: That bloom is really showy. It is, and of course

527
00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:57,240
Speaker 1: it's a monarch coast plant and attracts all kinds of

528
00:32:57,240 --> 00:33:00,600
Speaker 1: pollinators when it's Yeah, yeah, there's always butterflies one stuff

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Speaker 1: on it. Speaking of attracting pollinators, I've got Agastaki. Some

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00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:11,360
Speaker 1: people say Agastashtash. I don't know either. Blue Fortune, all

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Speaker 1: the blue ones are pretty good, Blue Fortune, blue bo

532
00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:17,480
Speaker 1: blue black Adder. I find that they return your toe'.

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00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:18,520
Speaker 2: Very reliable in our area.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and you don't want to give them too much

535
00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:23,280
Speaker 1: love or they'll flop. To put them in heavy you know,

536
00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:28,480
Speaker 1: dry soil, full sun, don't give them a lot of

537
00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:32,440
Speaker 1: water and fertilizer, and they stay up right pretty well.

538
00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:37,440
Speaker 1: And man, the pollinators just love them, and they do

539
00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:38,480
Speaker 1: bloom for pretty long.

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Speaker 2: Some of those other more western native ones they do

541
00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:47,960
Speaker 2: great here if you give them the proper drainage and all.

542
00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:49,200
Speaker 2: Sometimes you'll lose them.

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00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:51,920
Speaker 1: But yeah, I find those to be either short lived

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00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:55,800
Speaker 1: or just not adapted to heavy clay. They're very beautiful,

545
00:33:56,360 --> 00:34:01,560
Speaker 1: but there's one you can't get too attached to, right, Yeah,

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00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:05,280
Speaker 1: and the leatris are just coming on. So Spakata blaze,

547
00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:10,120
Speaker 1: what is that? Blazing Star? Yeah, and one that more

548
00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:13,319
Speaker 1: people should be growing is Leatris pic noo Steakia or

549
00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:16,360
Speaker 1: prairie blazing Star. They're both really.

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Speaker 2: Good interesting plants. And Scott, if you want to see

551
00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:26,000
Speaker 2: incredible display in nature, head east on thirty two and

552
00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:28,400
Speaker 2: go visit Chaparral Prairie.

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Speaker 1: Okay, oh my goodness.

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00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:32,880
Speaker 2: They have a few species there and just yeah gorgeous.

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Speaker 1: Ah good, I mean yeah, and they're tall prairie like plants.

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Speaker 1: You want to put them in with other plants where

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00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:41,920
Speaker 1: they can help them, help them stand up.

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00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:44,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, because they can get especially in their youth, they

559
00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:45,880
Speaker 2: can get kind of floppy.

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Speaker 1: And yeah, yeah, tell you what, Mark, we've got to

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Speaker 1: take a break. We'll do that and when we come

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Speaker 1: back we'll finish out with our favorite plants. Right now

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Speaker 1: on this July fourth Independence Day edition of Let's Garden

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Speaker 1: Welcome back. I am Scott Berlin. You're listening to Let's

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Speaker 1: Garden with me Scott Berlin, and I'm here with my

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Speaker 1: friend Mark wessel And, who works at Gardens Alive as

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Speaker 1: their chief horticulturists and those you might remember all those labels,

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Speaker 1: all those catalogs are Gurnees, Rex, Rex, spring Hill, spring

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Speaker 1: Hill More. Actually, what's the new end the gardens Gardeners Supply. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: really a good source of tools.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they have a really nice line of stuff. We

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Speaker 2: yeah we moved shipping here. We we fulfill out of

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Speaker 2: our warehouse in Fairfield.

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Speaker 1: Fairfield, Okay, yeah, and uh, very nice stuff. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: need to look at that catalog. I've I've still have

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Speaker 1: a lot of tools that are ordered from them pretty

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Speaker 1: long ago. Really good stuff. We are talking favorite plants

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Speaker 1: right now. Oh by the way, at about seven o'clock

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Speaker 1: maybe a little later. We're going to start talking about

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Speaker 1: plants gardeners in the fourth.

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Speaker 2: Of July and hopefully take some calls.

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Speaker 1: And we really want your calls. So if you have

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Speaker 1: stories about trees, anything to do with patriotism or red,

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Speaker 1: white and blue flowers or those things, we want to

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Speaker 1: hear from you or anything else or anything questions. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: don't make us peg, especially Mark. It doesn't look good

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Speaker 1: on him, right, I get paid by the question, right,

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Speaker 1: So that number is eight hundred eighty three eighty two

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Speaker 1: fifty five eight hundred eighty three eighty two to fifty

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Speaker 1: five holes to start taking his calls around about seven. Anyway,

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Speaker 1: we got to wrap up our favorite plants because we

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Speaker 1: both have a lot of them. I want to I

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00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:22,640
Speaker 1: know one that you don't tend to care for. I

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Speaker 1: have a bit of a more of appreciation for it.

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00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:33,600
Speaker 1: But Peroskia Russian sage, it's a poor man's midsummar hot

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00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:39,239
Speaker 1: humid person's lavender, sort of say, has that fragrance of

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00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:41,799
Speaker 1: the foliage and everything and sort of the same look.

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Speaker 1: The problem with it is it tends to flop in

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Speaker 1: a lot of inhumid or wet areas with heavy soils,

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Speaker 1: good soil or anything you know, less than Siberian conditions,

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Speaker 1: basically so. But they've come out with a lot of

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Speaker 1: smaller ones that hold better, hold hold up better, and

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Speaker 1: this year I don't know what it is, if it's

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Speaker 1: because there's more of those out there now or with

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00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:07,120
Speaker 1: the weather of the way it's been, but the Prefski

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Speaker 1: is looking so so good right now.

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Speaker 2: Well they are, I have to admit, Yeah, there curudge

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Speaker 2: and I am about the plant. I'm appreciating it.

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Speaker 1: And we are recording this right, yeah we are so yeah, Okay,

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Speaker 1: but listen to this list of selections. Denim and lace,

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Speaker 1: Sage Advice, Blue Jean, Baby, Little Lace, Little Spire, Blue Spire,

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Speaker 1: Crazy Blue, Blue, Steel, rocket Man Lungen, Blue Spritzer, Philogran, Superba,

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Speaker 1: Pika Blue Blue. I'm sure there's more. I'd say all

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Speaker 1: of those came out in the last five years, except

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Speaker 1: for maybe two or three. It just goes to show

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Speaker 1: when a plant catches on and it's such a useful

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Speaker 1: plant for landscapers, parking lots, that's where it really looks

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Speaker 1: pretty good. Yeah, you know, it's tough, hot, dry, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: where nobody takes good care of them, Cars run over

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Speaker 1: them and things like that. Great one for pap to tracks,

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Speaker 1: quite a few things. My great cone flower Rebeccia Maximus,

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Speaker 1: still kicking it. It's probably been five four or five weeks.

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Speaker 2: It's impressive plan.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I don't have a spot for it, but I enjoy

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Speaker 2: it in other gardens.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you have to have a full sun sight. Again,

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Speaker 1: it probably prefers to be sort of hot and dry.

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Speaker 2: I remember seeing that in its native habitat in the

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Speaker 2: black Land Prairies of Texas. It has you know, kind

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Speaker 2: of limited range and oh okay, it's been really cool

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Speaker 2: to see it out in nature.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a tall when it's about six to eight

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Speaker 1: feet tall, blue bluish foliage. It s looks cabbage like

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Speaker 1: a basil and Laucus glaucus gray and then shoots up

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Speaker 1: a stem and then I think it's usually just one

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Speaker 1: flower per stem.

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Speaker 2: It's a wapper flower, so it's a big foul flower.

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Speaker 1: And then it with a big brown seedhead that the

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Speaker 1: birds also flock to after it ripens. You have something else, Oh,

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Speaker 1: goat spard, goat spard. Runk man, that thing.

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Speaker 2: It's just always I don't grow it. But I was

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Speaker 2: looking back on some pictures. It's blooming right now, Like

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Speaker 2: if you go to Shawnee or you see it in

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Speaker 2: the gorge, like you'll be driving on those roads and

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Speaker 2: it'll be this big clump will be hanging off the

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Speaker 2: side of a cliff.

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Speaker 1: You know. It's it's interesting because it's nearly a shrub. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I might finish blooming about two weeks ago at least,

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Speaker 1: but yeah, I love it. And you know that's one

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Speaker 1: if you can put it where it catches the evening sun.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, where it just yeah, you might have had

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Speaker 2: a photograph of that.

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Speaker 1: Right, did I put it on Facebook? Yeah? It just

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Speaker 1: lights it up, just lights it up.

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Speaker 3: Ye.

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Speaker 1: It's another pretty big plant, a.

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Speaker 2: Big plant, which you know, everything's going small. We have

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Speaker 2: a full size perennial.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. People are shying away from bigger perennials, even when

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Speaker 1: they can fit them in their garden. And this is

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Speaker 1: a problem. I think it's needs needs fixing, Mark, I know.

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Speaker 2: But you know when you're you're in the industry, it

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Speaker 2: has to fit on the rat.

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Speaker 1: On the rack, because that's what people need to go

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Speaker 1: in knowing their plants a little bit better. I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: mention the blue annual Salvius Annual for us, but some

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Speaker 1: sometimes there even now for us. Sometimes they come back

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Speaker 1: as a perennial. But like guarn Nitka, like black and blue,

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Speaker 1: rhythm and blues, black and blue, just stunning annuals that

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Speaker 1: attract pollinators like nothing else. Yeah, and along that there's

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Speaker 1: the hybrid kind called Mystic Spires Blue and Big Blue,

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Speaker 1: which are both very very good too. Yes, you gotta

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Speaker 1: go to break Mark when we come back. It will

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Speaker 1: finish up a few more plants, and then we'll get

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Speaker 1: into the holiday Fourth of July and gardening and plants.

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