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Speaker 1: make it even worse. Crying uncle, how do you make

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Speaker 1: costs down? And furthermore, what is the optimal setting for

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Speaker 1: your thermostat? What's the right temperature on That is David Waski.

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Speaker 1: He's the home editor for CNET and joining the show

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Speaker 1: this morning. How are you welcome.

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Speaker 2: I'm well, thanks for having me.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So lots of unpack here. Energy costs are going up.

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Speaker 1: I think nationally is something like four percent. We got

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Speaker 1: as well as Kentucky and Indiana.

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Speaker 3: So what is that magic number?

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Speaker 1: By the way, is that I've always heard sixty eight

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Speaker 1: is that still the swee spot?

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Speaker 2: Sixty eight is still the sweet spot? Can you know,

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Speaker 2: manage that temperature and not go too much higher? You're

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Speaker 2: liable to shave some money off your monthly energy bill.

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Speaker 2: One of the keys that is really keeping it consistent,

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Speaker 2: especially when you're home and up. Dropping that temperature a

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Speaker 2: house is okay. But if you go much lower then

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Speaker 2: let's say six to seven degrees, you're going to spend

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Speaker 2: a lot more energy getting back up to that comfort

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Speaker 2: zone and it won't be worth it.

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Speaker 1: Is that based on actual energy efficiy science and comfort

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Speaker 1: studies are just like an arbitrary number.

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Speaker 2: No, it's based on studies gunned. You know a lot

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Speaker 2: of people will say that they, you know, prefer to

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Speaker 2: the research has shown that that sixty eight degrees is

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Speaker 2: very adjustable. People can adjust to it pretty easy, and

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Speaker 2: you know there's a lot of positive feedback for that

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Speaker 1: Yeah, about older people like Brian Culembs for example, tends

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Speaker 1: to be cold when it's like seventy seventy two degrees,

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Speaker 1: So what about that. I mean, that's the reality, right.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, listen, it's not a one size fits

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Speaker 2: But you will be surprised if can, you know, maybe

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Speaker 3: Gotcha.

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Speaker 1: Now we live in the day where everyone has a

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Speaker 1: well most everyone has a programmable thermostat, and that actually

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Speaker 2: So the thermostats not only give you, you know, really

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Speaker 2: So let's see you left for a long weekend and

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Speaker 3: So high so quickly.

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Speaker 2: So you know, incremental increases and decreases in the thermostat

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Speaker 3: And now wonderful too.

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Speaker 1: Like NaSTA, I just got an Echo B for our

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Speaker 2: But our smart thermostot expert Tyler Lacomac, you get crunched

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Speaker 1: Someone's listenings going, well, why don't I just turn my

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Speaker 1: Good morning, I'm Scott's Loan. This is seven hundred wwty.

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Speaker 1: It's podcast will make get easy for it, Easy Easy Easy.

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Speaker 1: Today is an historic day because this landmark moment, this

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Speaker 5: It happened just over one minute inch of flight.

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Speaker 1: One minute fifteen seconds flantidi twenty nine hundred pet per second,

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Speaker 1: Burning Lewis Kevin Cook, Kevin, welcome to the show.

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Speaker 6: Hi, Scot, how are you.

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Speaker 1: Hopefully I set that up well enough for you to

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Speaker 1: Well, and the lesson here coming out of the Burning

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Speaker 6: awful explosion happened and the pitchfork in the sky that

438
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Speaker 6: we all saw on television, that was not the end

439
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Speaker 6: of the astronauts. They survived that moment that was the

440
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Speaker 6: explosion of the fuel tank. They survived for another probably

441
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Speaker 6: two full minutes and forty five seconds trying to regain

442
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Speaker 6: control of the craft, which was impossible as it turned out.

443
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Speaker 6: I think they were heroic in any case, and trying

444
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Speaker 6: to reconstruct what happened after the exposion, between that and

445
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Speaker 6: the moment that actually killed the Challenger astronauts, which was

446
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Speaker 6: when the falling of Shuttle struck the Atlantic at two

447
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Speaker 6: hundred and seven miles per hour. Reconstructing those moments was

448
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Speaker 6: one of the more grueling and also fascinating aspects of

449
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Speaker 6: working on the Burning Blue.

450
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and on that day in January nineteen eighty six

451
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Speaker 1: and watching that so they were alive, didn't die instantly.

452
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Speaker 1: Were they aware that they were about to crash into

453
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Speaker 1: the ocean at over two hundred miles an hour, which

454
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Speaker 1: is fatal.

455
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Speaker 6: It's likely that they were. That there was no escape,

456
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Speaker 6: That there were ejector seats in the very first Shuttle

457
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Speaker 6: missions that became impractical later, that you can't have seven

458
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Speaker 6: people ejecting, There was no escape, there were no parachutes.

459
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Speaker 6: Those escape methods were built in after the Challenger disaster,

460
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Speaker 6: and they're going to need to be part of these

461
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Speaker 6: new efforts that we make, I think to the near

462
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Speaker 6: future missions to the Moon and Mars to learn the

463
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Speaker 6: lesson of the Challenger disaster and not repeat it.

464
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Speaker 1: What's scary is listening to that audio, the cockpit voice recorder,

465
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Speaker 1: and I think it was Michael Smith that that saw

466
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Speaker 1: that basically saw the catastrophic moment happen. And I think

467
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Speaker 1: the last words on that recording were something like oh no,

468
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Speaker 1: or it.

469
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Speaker 6: Was oh he said. And then for weeks after the accident,

470
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Speaker 6: it was believed that the last words from the Challenger

471
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Speaker 6: flight deck were Roger go and throttle up. It was

472
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Speaker 6: only later that it was understood it was assembled the

473
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Speaker 6: audio from the flight deck that Michael Smith must have

474
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Speaker 6: seen something just in the instance before all of the

475
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Speaker 6: electricity and the communications went out. Uh, and his last

476
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Speaker 6: words were, oh, that is the last thing that that

477
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Speaker 6: was ever heard from the ass Challenger astronauts.

478
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Speaker 1: Kevin Cook, the Burning Blue, the un storied, untold Sir

479
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Speaker 1: of Chrystal mcauliffin, the NASA Challenger disaster.

480
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Speaker 3: But there's a lesson, just a history.

481
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Speaker 1: It's also private based travel now with the Bezos and

482
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Speaker 1: the Branson's and the Musks of the world, and you

483
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Speaker 1: know that there's tremendous, tremendous pressure to perform here too.

484
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Speaker 1: That was the lesson from the NASA Challenger disaster is

485
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Speaker 1: there are a lot of warning signs ahead of this.

486
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Speaker 1: One of those is the fact that, as I recall

487
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Speaker 1: that the launch itself was delayed many times because of

488
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Speaker 1: weather or other issues.

489
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Speaker 6: Correct, that's just right. And there was the debacle the

490
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Speaker 6: day before in which the launch was scrubbed because a

491
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Speaker 6: bolt malfunctioned in the hatch store, a bolt that you

492
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Speaker 6: could have replaced that you'd gone to the local hardware store.

493
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Speaker 6: Nobody could get to the local hardware store from the

494
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Speaker 6: launch pad that day. They had to wait until the

495
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Speaker 6: next day. The next day was far colder, dangerously cold.

496
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Speaker 6: And yet the decision is made to launch anyway because

497
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Speaker 6: of terrible schedule pressure, partly because of embarrassment to the agency,

498
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Speaker 6: because of what had happened in the scrubs that came

499
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Speaker 6: before this. These are all things that are going to

500
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Speaker 6: have to be born in mind by people who are

501
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Speaker 6: making launch decisions in our near future.

502
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Speaker 1: If the weather were warmer that day in January. Now,

503
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Speaker 1: to keep in mind, what January twenty eighth, nineteen eighty six.

504
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Speaker 1: You're in Florida, but extremely cold by Florida standards. If

505
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Speaker 1: it would have been a few degrees warmer, would we

506
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Speaker 1: have not had this disaster.

507
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Speaker 6: I think it's likely, and there's certainly a great chance

508
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Speaker 6: that had it been normal weather for Florida that January.

509
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Speaker 6: There had been other missions that something similar happened with

510
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Speaker 6: the old rings. There was what was called blow by,

511
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Speaker 6: and certainly it might have happened had it been colder

512
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Speaker 6: in previous missions. I think it's one of the unknowables,

513
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Speaker 6: but there is a very good chance that they would

514
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Speaker 6: have been lucky again, as as more than two dozen

515
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Speaker 6: previous Shuttle missions. Uh, two dozen previous missions had had

516
00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:14,360
Speaker 6: had some trouble, many of them, but they made it back.

517
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Speaker 6: That's why the Nobel Prize winning physicist Richard Fineman said

518
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Speaker 6: that previous missions had essentially been playing Russian roulette with

519
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Speaker 6: the astronauts.

520
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Speaker 1: Well, the issue then came down they had a president

521
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Speaker 1: a presidential commission. I believe on the on the O ring, right,

522
00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:32,439
Speaker 1: and so the O ring you have the solid rocket

523
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Speaker 1: boosters and that is the that's what's powering you into

524
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Speaker 1: space at several hundred miles an hour.

525
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Speaker 4: Uh.

526
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Speaker 1: If you have a leak in one of these rubber

527
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Speaker 1: O rings, you got problems. And uh, they uncovered a

528
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Speaker 1: momo from Morton Thaia call the the engineers, the project

529
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Speaker 1: engineers on this thing. And if you saw the documentary

530
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Speaker 1: in the book, you detail this about engineers screaming for

531
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Speaker 1: help for please, like we're going to have a catastrophic failure.

532
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Speaker 3: People are going to die. Uh in that teme to fruition.

533
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Speaker 3: Take me through that part of it.

534
00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:02,680
Speaker 6: Well, there was a teleconference the night before in which

535
00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:06,520
Speaker 6: the engineers said, uh that they had they had great

536
00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:09,679
Speaker 6: worries and they would not sign on to to a launch.

537
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Speaker 6: The next morning, their managers pressured them to uh to

538
00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:18,359
Speaker 6: change their minds, and eventually they did. It's one of

539
00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:20,720
Speaker 6: those things that one has to if you put yourself

540
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Speaker 6: in their shoes, if you could say I've got great

541
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Speaker 6: concerns about this, then then the managers may say, well,

542
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Speaker 6: what about the last dozen missions that went off without

543
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Speaker 6: a hitch. You were in a terrible position if if

544
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Speaker 6: you if you uh say I'm against this, and then

545
00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:40,960
Speaker 6: they launched anyway and nothing bad happens. They were certainly

546
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Speaker 6: vindicated by circumstance. And that's why there's a program called

547
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Speaker 6: the Lessons Learned program in NASA now saying we've got

548
00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:51,040
Speaker 6: to support engineers, support people who are willing to say

549
00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:54,880
Speaker 6: this is too dangerous, let's fix the problem before we launched.

550
00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:57,200
Speaker 1: Well, there were signs with other missions, right and tests

551
00:27:57,240 --> 00:27:59,080
Speaker 1: that that indicated the lowering was failing.

552
00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:03,000
Speaker 6: Correct, that that's right, and the the idea that that

553
00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:07,000
Speaker 6: one says. Well. Uh, they they looked like they were failing,

554
00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:10,760
Speaker 6: but nobody got killed in the previous visions. That's the

555
00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:14,520
Speaker 6: Russian roulette aspect of the they came back. There was

556
00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:17,440
Speaker 6: a task force studying the old ring problem at more

557
00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:22,720
Speaker 6: than diacol, studying and studying, but uh, it wasn't seen

558
00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:25,760
Speaker 6: as important enough to delay, and he launches while the

559
00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:26,760
Speaker 6: studying was done.

560
00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:30,400
Speaker 1: Explain explain how the rubber o ring and the cold

561
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Speaker 1: weather go to go.

562
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Speaker 3: What caused the explosion?

563
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Speaker 6: It's stiffened as Uh. Richard Feinman demonstrated so beautifully on

564
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Speaker 6: television during the Presidential Commission. Uh. He had a glass

565
00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:42,960
Speaker 6: of ice water. He got a piece of rubber from

566
00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:45,480
Speaker 6: the old ring difted in there. Showed how it's not

567
00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:48,120
Speaker 6: as elastic when it's cold, like like a lot of

568
00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:52,360
Speaker 6: other things. Uh, it gets denser, Uh and not flexible.

569
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Speaker 4: Uh.

570
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Speaker 6: So it was in the cold, it was unable to

571
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Speaker 6: to uh to prevent the leak. The leak leads to

572
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Speaker 6: a plume of flame that then burns right through that

573
00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:06,640
Speaker 6: didn't hide and outer covering of the external tank, and

574
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Speaker 6: that causes the giant explosion we saw on TV.

575
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and we finally have some closure in that too.

576
00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:13,840
Speaker 1: But I think the interesting part about it is really

577
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Speaker 1: how little the families were awarded.

578
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Speaker 6: Yes, and I mean I think it's hard to sue

579
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Speaker 6: the government, and several of the crew members were members

580
00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:28,600
Speaker 6: of the armed forces. That plays into it as well.

581
00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:31,920
Speaker 6: There were settlements. They didn't make news because there really

582
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Speaker 6: wasn't much space program news in the two and a

583
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Speaker 6: half years after the Challenger disaster. That's when things were

584
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Speaker 6: being put back together in a safer way. Of course,

585
00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:46,640
Speaker 6: before long, shuttle flights will seem routine again, pressure will

586
00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:51,520
Speaker 6: increase to launch and that leads to similar problems and

587
00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:53,360
Speaker 6: the Columbia disaster.

588
00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:54,720
Speaker 4: Yeah.

589
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Speaker 3: The relationship there between the Columbia disaster and this is what.

590
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Speaker 6: Well, it's the fact that lessons learns need to be observed.

591
00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:09,960
Speaker 6: As Mike Tinelli and that's a wonderful person who runs

592
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Speaker 6: the Lessons Learned program down at Kennedy Space Center talks

593
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Speaker 6: about it's similar we have a presidential commission. It's a

594
00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:19,320
Speaker 6: little bit like driving a past the wreck on the highway.

595
00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:22,040
Speaker 6: You see the smoke, you see the ambulances, and then

596
00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:24,800
Speaker 6: you're driving with your hands at ten or two for

597
00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:28,560
Speaker 6: a little while. But before long, as he says, they're

598
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Speaker 6: back to having your foot on the wheel and the

599
00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:32,840
Speaker 6: other foot out of the window. If you forget the

600
00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:38,680
Speaker 6: crucial importance of safety in the preparation for a launch.

601
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Speaker 6: That's what happened with Columbia after Challenger, and that's what

602
00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:50,000
Speaker 6: future planners are going to have to bear in mind

603
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Speaker 6: as we get to remarkably exciting and complicated missions to

604
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Speaker 6: the Moon.

605
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Speaker 3: And tomorrow, somebody's going to die in the future.

606
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Speaker 1: It's found to happen again, because yeah, we may learn

607
00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:04,240
Speaker 1: the lessons from history, but there's tremendous pressure. And look

608
00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:07,120
Speaker 1: what led to the death of the Challenger crew, right

609
00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:10,480
Speaker 1: had we got to put chrystalcoll on their teacher because

610
00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:12,280
Speaker 1: you know what, now all of a sudden, school kids

611
00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:14,320
Speaker 1: are getting interested, we get them hooked, their parents will

612
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Speaker 1: be interested. Hey great, we're putting someone on there for

613
00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:20,280
Speaker 1: the only reasons. It's a pr move. I don't know

614
00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:22,720
Speaker 1: what research a teacher can do in space, but nonetheless

615
00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:24,680
Speaker 1: there's an every man component to that.

616
00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:26,040
Speaker 3: It's marketing, is what this is.

617
00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:28,600
Speaker 1: And then the pressure to launch, to launch, to launch,

618
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Speaker 1: because we want to see chrystalmacall off in space ended

619
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Speaker 1: in tragically in her death.

620
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Speaker 3: We did the same thing with Challenger to some degree.

621
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Speaker 1: As well, with private space missions happening in the near future,

622
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Speaker 1: at some point people are going to die again, aren't they.

623
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Speaker 6: Well, Elon Munk seems to think so. It is a

624
00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:50,240
Speaker 6: risky operation. It's a risky thing to do with space exploration.

625
00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:55,080
Speaker 6: I think the job of NASA, the agency, as well

626
00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:58,240
Speaker 6: as it's private partners. I think these will be public

627
00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:03,120
Speaker 6: private partnerships the missions, especially when we're talking about Mars.

628
00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:08,440
Speaker 6: I think one recognizes the risk and the likelihood that

629
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Speaker 6: people may die. But for those preparing for missions like that,

630
00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:16,280
Speaker 6: your job is to do all you possibly can to

631
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Speaker 6: prevent that, to make them as safe as possible. That

632
00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:22,800
Speaker 6: lesson was forgotten before Challenger, and even.

633
00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:24,600
Speaker 1: With the technology of the way it is because Eli

634
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Speaker 1: I must have said, well, we can't have a it's

635
00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:30,200
Speaker 1: not like you have an airline pilot fly fifty sixty missions.

636
00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:33,760
Speaker 1: The human body can't withstand that. So solving that is

637
00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:39,800
Speaker 1: through autonomous meaning self driving aircraft, self driving spacecraft. All right,

638
00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:41,880
Speaker 1: that's all well and good, and we have more technology

639
00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:43,800
Speaker 1: and monitors and the things we did, but you still

640
00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:48,160
Speaker 1: can't get past the fact that that's an incredibly traumatic

641
00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:51,880
Speaker 1: procedure for any airframe to go through, and that is launching,

642
00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:55,480
Speaker 1: relaunching and making something a regularly scheduled flight. Ultimately, that's

643
00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:58,600
Speaker 1: what they want to do here physically. Is that possible

644
00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:00,000
Speaker 1: for any aircraft?

645
00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:07,320
Speaker 6: H It's sure difficult. And again, the spacecraft has so

646
00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:11,080
Speaker 6: many parts. The space level was the most complicated machine

647
00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:13,520
Speaker 6: ever built. Well, when you have a lot of parts,

648
00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:17,240
Speaker 6: Murphy's Law stares you in the face every day with

649
00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:23,240
Speaker 6: every decision. That's what that's what the Elon musk, that's

650
00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:28,840
Speaker 6: what visos, that's what Richard Branson, that's what face looking forward.

651
00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:33,800
Speaker 6: And the lesson is it's difficult, it's complicated, it's dangerous,

652
00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:37,480
Speaker 6: it's potentially lethal. These are things that need to be

653
00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:40,400
Speaker 6: borne in mind. Just before the word go it is

654
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Speaker 6: given to to send somebody into space.

655
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think it's gonna be interesting too. At

656
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Speaker 1: some point there's going to be a failure once again.

657
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Speaker 1: I don't think that means we stop trying. It means

658
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Speaker 1: you learn from those lessons. But if the lessons keep

659
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Speaker 1: getting repeated, as it started with the Challenger, then I

660
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Speaker 1: guess that that's also human nature too. We have to

661
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Speaker 1: accept a certain amount of casualties if this is the price,

662
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Speaker 1: if this is the goal. Kevin Cook, The Burning Blue,

663
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Speaker 1: The Untold Stir of Crystal Calf and NASA Challenger Disaster.

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Speaker 3: Thanks again for the time, good luck with the book.

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Speaker 4: Thank you, Scott.

666
00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:14,879
Speaker 6: I appreciate it, and it's good to be on WLW.

667
00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:18,520
Speaker 6: I grew up listening to to Al Michaels and then

668
00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:20,840
Speaker 6: Marty Brenneman and Joe Dunsallomons Big Red Machine.

669
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Speaker 4: Wow.

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Speaker 3: How about that? So you're India. We're in Indiana.

671
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Speaker 6: Indianapolis.

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Speaker 1: Oh, Indianapolis. Okay, very good. Yeah, So all the best

673
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Speaker 1: to you and thanks again.

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Speaker 3: For coming on, Kevin.

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Speaker 6: Thanks Gott.

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Speaker 1: Kevin Cook back on the show. It's the fortieth anniversary

677
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Speaker 1: of that challenge, which I have forty year Where were

678
00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:37,040
Speaker 1: you forty years ago?

679
00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:37,400
Speaker 3: Today?

680
00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:41,680
Speaker 1: Most people said, well, I wasn't born yet. Smart da touche.

681
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Speaker 1: Scott Sloan Show home of the Red seven hundred w Weldon.

682
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Speaker 7: Today today are making the rounds.

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Speaker 1: They are here is almost here actually third and fifth

684
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Speaker 1: annual Marty Graf for Homeless Children. I've been doing this

685
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Speaker 1: for feels like maybe about ten years, maybe at like

686
00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:03,440
Speaker 1: half of that, I think. Anyway, is it more than that?

687
00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:06,400
Speaker 1: Come up on Fat Tuesday, February seventeen this year in

688
00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:09,680
Speaker 1: Northern Kentucky Convention Center. What happens is this, You go,

689
00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:12,000
Speaker 1: you have a good time, you all you can drink,

690
00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:15,080
Speaker 1: all you can eat, and then what happens is all

691
00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:17,719
Speaker 1: that money that's raised goes to provide more than one

692
00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:19,560
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty thousand meals for kids here in the

693
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Speaker 1: Tri state area. And that includes reach outreach for places

694
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Speaker 1: like Brighton Center's homewer Bound Welcome House in Covington and

695
00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:30,120
Speaker 1: Bethany House in Cincinnati. And it is that time of

696
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Speaker 1: year to sell some tickets here for such a good cost.

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Speaker 1: No better Valentine's Day President than this, because it's all

698
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Speaker 1: in and especially get a hotel across the street. Scottenly

699
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Speaker 1: knows what's going to happen institute of this morning, of course,

700
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Speaker 1: Gordy Snyder, the living legend himself the guy was here

701
00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:48,440
Speaker 1: for all of the Marty Grass past president and future.

702
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Speaker 1: He's a chairman. We've got Amy Floyd in the execut director,

703
00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:54,479
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow, my good friend Don Peperella for Mercedes Benz

704
00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:56,319
Speaker 1: of Fort Mitchell, all in studio this morning here on

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Speaker 1: seven hundred W Dow.

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Speaker 3: How are we, folks? We got were warm or absolutely,

707
00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:02,920
Speaker 3: we're here. We're ready to go. You're ready to rock

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00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:03,359
Speaker 3: and roll.

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Speaker 1: This is, by the way, I'll point out, I mean,

710
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Speaker 1: this is your first year Joe Burrow Foundation as a

711
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Speaker 1: title sponsor. Why do you guys decide a partner with

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00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:10,439
Speaker 1: us this year?

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Speaker 8: Marty gra Yeah, the mission of the Joe Burrow Foundation

714
00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:17,080
Speaker 8: is to provide resources and opportunities to the underprivileged and underserved.

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Speaker 8: And so we heard about this event. I went to

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Speaker 8: it a couple of years ago, and it just felt

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Speaker 8: like a natural fit for us to be a part

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Speaker 8: of a Marty Girl event benefiting Greater Cincinnati kids feeding

719
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Speaker 8: hungry people really is the is the end goal and

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Speaker 8: eliminating the need for.

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Speaker 1: This really well, I know Joe, you know on Athens

722
00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:37,520
Speaker 1: where he's from, to be in a rural area till

723
00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:38,960
Speaker 1: you see a lot of this as well, so being

724
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Speaker 1: able to do it here in Cincinnati speaks fomes.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 9: Yeah.

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Speaker 8: His Heisman speech really shed light on the issues of

728
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Speaker 8: food insecurity and kids not having consistent access to healthy food,

729
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Speaker 8: and that was really the promise of us starting the foundation.

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Speaker 8: And there's unfortunately hunger kids everywhere.

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Speaker 1: So Cincinnati is not I think rural too, especially hit

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Speaker 1: Stephen Marcus.

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Speaker 3: We think about that.

734
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Speaker 1: You know, all the all the resources seemed to go

735
00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:04,279
Speaker 1: to urban areas and here, you know, Cincinnati, Okay, it's

736
00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:06,480
Speaker 1: growing well and good, but in roural areas and more difficult.

737
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Speaker 1: So I could see them totally leaning into that. So

738
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Speaker 1: it's good to have you guys this year. So this

739
00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:11,160
Speaker 1: just sounds like it was a slam dunk based on

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Speaker 1: his Heisman speech. Yes, involved here, absolutely, We're excitingly gosh,

741
00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:16,759
Speaker 1: and of course Don Paparella from Mercedes Benz in Fort

742
00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:18,360
Speaker 1: Mech can't miss it if you're head down the highways

743
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Speaker 1: right there. We try to be everywhere if we can't,

744
00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:23,160
Speaker 1: and all time back for the umpteenth here appreciate your supporters.

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Speaker 3: I think it's thirteen or so. Oh wow.

746
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Speaker 7: We're certainly excited. This is this is our our this

747
00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:30,680
Speaker 7: is my favorite event. You know, we love giving back

748
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Speaker 7: the community. We love you know, helping out you know,

749
00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:35,799
Speaker 7: this charity with the three cherries that they serve, this

750
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Speaker 7: event is by far and away the best one and

751
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Speaker 7: it's kind of been our cornerstone of all of our

752
00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:42,480
Speaker 7: giving and you know that we do that and again

753
00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:44,080
Speaker 7: we try to you know, we want to make the

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Speaker 7: community better than when we got here. And I think

755
00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:47,520
Speaker 7: we've done a good job of that. That's kind of

756
00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:50,719
Speaker 7: been our our mantra at the dealership ever since we've

757
00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:52,279
Speaker 7: we opened up. We're like, how do we make the

758
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Speaker 7: area better? And this is this is a great fit

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Speaker 7: for us.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's it was important to having local business

761
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Speaker 1: lean into this as well too. And it's your favorite

762
00:37:58,239 --> 00:37:59,759
Speaker 1: event a year because it's such a great charity. You

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00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:02,480
Speaker 1: see the immediate impact media impact. But I know you

764
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Speaker 1: like to come and eat and drink.

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Speaker 3: I mean I do come hungry. I'm not gonna lie.

766
00:38:06,239 --> 00:38:07,120
Speaker 3: I do come hungry.

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Speaker 7: And it's so I'm like, nope, no food today and

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Speaker 7: there and yes we have all. The food is unbelievable,

769
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Speaker 7: The drinks are great, the music's great. You know, it's

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Speaker 7: the walking around and seeing everybody seeing old friends, and

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Speaker 7: it's just absolutely wonderful.

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Speaker 1: Knowing you're helping folks too. And the best part is

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Speaker 1: it's it's a fairly early night. I mean, you can

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Speaker 1: start at five point thirty and it's over a ten,

775
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Speaker 1: but you can get you can do some damage there in.

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Speaker 3: A few short hours. You're there full by seven. Let's

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Speaker 3: just put it that way, right. You can't eat everything

778
00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:34,960
Speaker 3: that's in there.

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Speaker 7: We make it around halfway and I'm like, that's about

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Speaker 7: all we're gonna be able to eat.

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Speaker 3: It's wonderful. I'll tell you what.

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Speaker 1: Chef Jim Jimmy curveall over at the Governor's House in

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Speaker 1: Covington did a food drop today. He's got the short rib,

784
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Speaker 1: which is amazing. He's got an incredible mushroom risota. Mushroom

785
00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:51,880
Speaker 1: a risotta is really really hard to get to go.

786
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Speaker 1: He did, he killed it, smashed potatoes. He's got the

787
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Speaker 1: basil butter. It's it's all working this morning, and our

788
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Speaker 1: staff is fat and happy on this cold, cold morning

789
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Speaker 1: to enjoy in some of this stuff. To keep your

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Speaker 1: staff on point. Yeah, I circle that. So I got

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Speaker 1: to go to Governor's house next time. Down to this

792
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Speaker 1: The food is the last couple of years have been

793
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Speaker 1: absolutely amazing. Let me bring in a Gordy Snyder, who's

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Speaker 1: the founding chairman of Marty Garras Benefiting Homeless Children thirty

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Speaker 1: five years a god.

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Speaker 10: Well Scott, First of all, thank you for being our

797
00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:20,040
Speaker 10: king once again this year. We appreciate you, know, everything

798
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Speaker 10: that you've done for the King. It's got to be

799
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Speaker 10: like what I say, Queen, I say.

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Speaker 3: King, King, King.

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Speaker 1: I think I could be queen too, I don't. Yeah, well, no,

802
00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:29,600
Speaker 1: she was your queen. Oh yeah, that's right, Chilla. She'lla

803
00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:30,759
Speaker 1: helped me on the last name.

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Speaker 3: Gray.

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00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:33,840
Speaker 1: Oh Gray, that's right. Yeah, just say red or blue,

806
00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:36,840
Speaker 1: but gray, that's right. Yeah, local twice I saw she

807
00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:39,040
Speaker 1: she the other day. She's doing well. Yeah, I know

808
00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:40,520
Speaker 1: you guys are okay too much. She has a problem.

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00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:42,040
Speaker 1: She Let me tell you something about Hill. I've don

810
00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:44,560
Speaker 1: Hill a long time. Way too much energy, I said,

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Speaker 1: God only gives you so much energy. You're gonna How

812
00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:50,319
Speaker 1: is it possible at your she's what forty? How is

813
00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:52,200
Speaker 1: it possible you have still have that much energy at

814
00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:54,440
Speaker 1: age forty? It's unbelievable. I thought she was twenty nine.

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Speaker 1: I was realist.

816
00:39:57,239 --> 00:39:58,759
Speaker 3: Let's talk about well the history of event.

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00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:01,080
Speaker 1: People go, okay, well, it's kind of where why why

818
00:40:01,160 --> 00:40:02,960
Speaker 1: Marty Grout, why homeless, skilled, holl those things?

819
00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:04,360
Speaker 3: How does that work? How does that go together?

820
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Speaker 10: Well, thirty six years ago, Scott there were four homeless

821
00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:13,680
Speaker 10: children in an abandoned garage and the father locked them

822
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Speaker 10: in the garage. They were all the whole family was homeless.

823
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Speaker 10: They started playing with matches. Unfortunately, the garage caught on fire,

824
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Speaker 10: burned down, and all four children perished. Cincinnati Public School

825
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Speaker 10: System came out with a study. They said at any

826
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Speaker 10: time during the course of a year, over the course

827
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Speaker 10: of a year, there could be as many as twelve

828
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Speaker 10: or fifteen thousand children in Greater Cincinnati, northern Kentucky hill gravel.

829
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Speaker 10: And everybody was like, wait a minute, this can't be

830
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Speaker 10: happening in Cincinnati.

831
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Speaker 3: There's no way.

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Speaker 10: And unfortunately, what people don't realize is homeless children are

833
00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:51,319
Speaker 10: the invisible. Children are invisible homeless. You don't you don't

834
00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:53,240
Speaker 10: see them out on the street corner with a sign.

835
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Speaker 10: They're honeing, they're hiding, they're running, they're runaways, They're hiding

836
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Speaker 10: in abandoned buildings, abandoned garage, garage, cars, whatever they can

837
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Speaker 10: get into. And then a lot of times it's discovered

838
00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:06,040
Speaker 10: through the school system when they show up and they

839
00:41:06,040 --> 00:41:07,719
Speaker 10: don't have proper clothing, they haven't been.

840
00:41:07,640 --> 00:41:09,719
Speaker 3: Fed, and they have moved. They So.

841
00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:14,240
Speaker 10: We decided at the Northern Kentucky Restaurant Association to start

842
00:41:14,600 --> 00:41:17,319
Speaker 10: this event to help help with homeless children. And as

843
00:41:17,320 --> 00:41:21,120
Speaker 10: you mentioned, it goes to three great powerhouse agencies here

844
00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:25,200
Speaker 10: in Greater Cincinnati Northern Kentucky. We have beth Any House

845
00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:29,680
Speaker 10: over in Cincinnati, Brighton Center there in Newport, and and

846
00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:33,000
Speaker 10: also Welcome House in Covington. And so far we've raised

847
00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:36,319
Speaker 10: two point nine three million dollars over the history of

848
00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:37,000
Speaker 10: the event.

849
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Speaker 3: Two point almost three million.

850
00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:39,920
Speaker 10: It will be three We're going to go over three

851
00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:43,160
Speaker 10: million this year, Scott, with everybody's help. Yeah, yeah, that's incredible.

852
00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:45,800
Speaker 1: And all those it goes to one hundred and fifty

853
00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:50,000
Speaker 1: thousand meals, which is an incredible amount, right of pretty

854
00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:51,800
Speaker 1: much launch everyday for every kid that needs.

855
00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:54,279
Speaker 10: It, three meals a day. And then one of the

856
00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:58,400
Speaker 10: agency said, you also have to have snacks.

857
00:41:57,160 --> 00:42:01,640
Speaker 1: Yeah right, yeah, exact play Amy Floyd, your favorite snack,

858
00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:06,560
Speaker 1: go Dorita's Cool Ranch or standard.

859
00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:13,000
Speaker 8: Good question I'd say cool ranch, really cool. Yeah, same.

860
00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:19,680
Speaker 10: Cape cod potato chips, gotcha, gotta be reese cups, Reese's

861
00:42:19,719 --> 00:42:24,720
Speaker 10: cups really oh yeah, snack, oh yeah, everything.

862
00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:28,680
Speaker 1: I guess it's a snack. I always think savory. If

863
00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:31,719
Speaker 1: I'm doing it, I'm not on the board. I'd go

864
00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:32,720
Speaker 1: Doritos maybe.

865
00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:33,080
Speaker 4: Uh.

866
00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:35,400
Speaker 1: I'd probably throw some Cheetos in there, maybe cheat. I'm

867
00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:37,560
Speaker 1: a cheese guy, like the cheese, A savory kind of

868
00:42:37,560 --> 00:42:40,200
Speaker 1: guy as well. All right, all right, that's pretty good.

869
00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:43,839
Speaker 1: Jen Madley says there her favorite snack kl chips. She's

870
00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:45,799
Speaker 1: a heathen. I don't know what the hell's going on,

871
00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:48,560
Speaker 1: but I don't even know that's insane.

872
00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:50,839
Speaker 3: Well, here's the thing.

873
00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:52,720
Speaker 1: I don't think there'll be any kale on the menu

874
00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:55,600
Speaker 1: anywhere the five thousand restaurants we have on Mardi Gras.

875
00:42:55,640 --> 00:42:57,719
Speaker 3: There'll be no kale at all in there. It's but

876
00:42:57,719 --> 00:42:58,600
Speaker 3: but you're gonna have a good time.

877
00:42:58,600 --> 00:43:01,279
Speaker 1: So thirty fifth of Marty gra benefit homeless kids, and

878
00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:04,000
Speaker 1: it's happening fat Tuesday, February seventeenth hours.

879
00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:05,719
Speaker 3: It's five thirty right for the VIP.

880
00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:08,040
Speaker 10: Five thirty you get the big piece of chicken.

881
00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:10,360
Speaker 1: The big that's right, you get there. It's five thirties

882
00:43:10,360 --> 00:43:14,080
Speaker 1: a VIP that entitles you to the big piece of chicken. Right, okay,

883
00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:16,160
Speaker 1: so you get the big bed. I'm not saying that

884
00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:19,319
Speaker 1: the other sized chickens afterwards aren't sizable sized chickens, but

885
00:43:19,360 --> 00:43:20,480
Speaker 1: it's you get the pick of the litter.

886
00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:22,959
Speaker 3: Let's put it that way. To five three, the extra hours.

887
00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:25,600
Speaker 1: To it's important eat and probably also pregame a little

888
00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:28,240
Speaker 1: bit for the rest of the festivities. There's also Gordy.

889
00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:30,759
Speaker 1: No shortage of alcoholic beverages there either. No, there's a

890
00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:32,920
Speaker 1: lot of alcohol. There are a lot of livations we have,

891
00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:36,880
Speaker 1: you know, beer, craft beers, wine ever, you know, livations, bourbon,

892
00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:39,120
Speaker 1: you name it, you name it. There's more cocktails in

893
00:43:39,200 --> 00:43:41,880
Speaker 1: more you have a good time. Yeah, yeah, yeah, and

894
00:43:42,080 --> 00:43:44,160
Speaker 1: you know they give you the smaller obviously because you're

895
00:43:44,160 --> 00:43:45,799
Speaker 1: pasting yourself too. But all of a sudden you're like,

896
00:43:46,520 --> 00:43:50,120
Speaker 1: how many have I had? Everyone does that and goes, oh,

897
00:43:50,160 --> 00:43:52,000
Speaker 1: I'll be damned, it's only a Tuesday night. On top

898
00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:54,640
Speaker 1: of that as well, yeah, you should really think about it.

899
00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:56,800
Speaker 1: If you do this right, you're taking Wednesday off, correct,

900
00:43:57,000 --> 00:43:59,680
Speaker 1: that's our recommendation. If you're doing this right, you're taking

901
00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:01,480
Speaker 1: Wednesday about right.

902
00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:01,880
Speaker 3: And now of that.

903
00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:04,239
Speaker 10: Also across the street you get a hotel too, you could stay.

904
00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:06,560
Speaker 10: We've got a hotel. We also have free parking that

905
00:44:06,719 --> 00:44:08,680
Speaker 10: night thanks to Mercedes Benz a fort.

906
00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:11,120
Speaker 1: Minute, very nice, thank you, don Don Send his team

907
00:44:11,120 --> 00:44:12,200
Speaker 1: will park your car personally.

908
00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:18,520
Speaker 3: Can I get a detailed how that rules? Right into

909
00:44:18,600 --> 00:44:19,120
Speaker 3: a new car.

910
00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:23,240
Speaker 1: So next year we're moving the conventions under two Mercedes Benz.

911
00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:25,439
Speaker 3: And Fort Mitchell right right there, right good.

912
00:44:25,480 --> 00:44:28,640
Speaker 1: We got somebody doing titles and everything right the play

913
00:44:28,680 --> 00:44:30,719
Speaker 1: go swe We got you in and out.

914
00:44:31,239 --> 00:44:33,160
Speaker 3: Not a big deal, which is good, you know, a

915
00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:34,440
Speaker 3: good credit, not a big deal.

916
00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:37,000
Speaker 1: Speaking of which, Mercedes, what what what's the new line

917
00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:37,279
Speaker 1: this year?

918
00:44:37,280 --> 00:44:38,640
Speaker 3: What are you guys doing? Last year we talked a

919
00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:39,400
Speaker 3: lot about evs.

920
00:44:39,680 --> 00:44:42,840
Speaker 7: Yeah, so EV's have sort of run their course. They're wonderful.

921
00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:45,640
Speaker 7: They're just slowed down a little bit. But now we're

922
00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:49,040
Speaker 7: we're all about SUVs. So the Mercedes SUVs are the

923
00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:51,520
Speaker 7: top of the They are unbelievable. It starts with the

924
00:44:51,560 --> 00:44:54,480
Speaker 7: g Wagon, then goes to the my Box and the

925
00:44:54,560 --> 00:44:57,960
Speaker 7: g ls's and the Glees. So this year we're planning

926
00:44:58,000 --> 00:45:00,640
Speaker 7: about seventy percent of our sales will be the unbelievable

927
00:45:00,640 --> 00:45:01,640
Speaker 7: sport utility vehicles.

928
00:45:01,719 --> 00:45:02,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're all all will drive.

929
00:45:03,040 --> 00:45:07,320
Speaker 7: They're roomy, they're fast, they look great, safety security, they're wonderful.

930
00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:09,560
Speaker 3: Do you think it's amazing me.

931
00:45:09,640 --> 00:45:12,080
Speaker 1: It's like we you know, trucks and SUVs are it's

932
00:45:12,080 --> 00:45:14,600
Speaker 1: a huge sector, right is it? Because the roads are

933
00:45:14,600 --> 00:45:16,040
Speaker 1: so damn bad. I mean, look at the ice and

934
00:45:16,080 --> 00:45:17,560
Speaker 1: snow and the potholes we're gonna have in the spring.

935
00:45:17,680 --> 00:45:19,480
Speaker 1: And it's it's because people are like, you know what,

936
00:45:19,760 --> 00:45:22,640
Speaker 1: I smack as fun, but I gotta be up the road.

937
00:45:22,719 --> 00:45:23,040
Speaker 3: Stink.

938
00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:26,560
Speaker 7: It doesn't hurt you. The roads are they're definitely challenging.

939
00:45:26,640 --> 00:45:27,920
Speaker 3: Let's lot at that way and then the.

940
00:45:27,840 --> 00:45:29,200
Speaker 1: Weather the way it is, you know you're not gonna

941
00:45:29,200 --> 00:45:30,920
Speaker 1: get around. Let's face it, the two wheel you know,

942
00:45:31,400 --> 00:45:35,120
Speaker 1: m we the SUVs. What we see is people they

943
00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:37,720
Speaker 1: need some space. You know, we're Americans. We need space.

944
00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:38,840
Speaker 1: We need to carry stuff.

945
00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:41,239
Speaker 7: We have children in the back friends, So you know,

946
00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:44,279
Speaker 7: we're not like other countries where transportations just to get

947
00:45:44,280 --> 00:45:46,319
Speaker 7: around with us, it's a it's a lifestyle.

948
00:45:46,640 --> 00:45:47,440
Speaker 3: It's enjoyable.

949
00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:50,799
Speaker 7: So we sell large SUVs actually small, medium and large

950
00:45:50,880 --> 00:45:54,400
Speaker 7: SUV's and again with the roads being as challenging as.

951
00:45:54,239 --> 00:45:55,759
Speaker 3: They are, you want to be up a little higher.

952
00:45:55,800 --> 00:45:56,640
Speaker 3: You got bigger tires.

953
00:45:56,680 --> 00:45:59,200
Speaker 7: You can handle the potholes and handle the one.

954
00:45:59,000 --> 00:46:00,640
Speaker 1: That's exactly what is Amy, would it take to get

955
00:46:00,640 --> 00:46:02,000
Speaker 1: you in a G class? By the way, would you

956
00:46:02,200 --> 00:46:03,920
Speaker 1: were you an equal an E C or G.

957
00:46:04,360 --> 00:46:06,400
Speaker 9: Well, I'm in the nonprofit space, so I might have

958
00:46:06,440 --> 00:46:06,840
Speaker 9: to take.

959
00:46:06,719 --> 00:46:11,040
Speaker 1: It to you also have a good supply of after weeks,

960
00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:13,440
Speaker 1: have some gently used cars, and we've got all the

961
00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:15,000
Speaker 1: We got all the normal stuff too.

962
00:46:15,040 --> 00:46:17,080
Speaker 7: But you know my model is treat yourself. I mean

963
00:46:17,120 --> 00:46:18,880
Speaker 7: that's exactly we always say, treat yourself.

964
00:46:18,920 --> 00:46:20,560
Speaker 3: Amy. Could you give me your Social Security so you're

965
00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:23,160
Speaker 3: going to run a credit check? Can we do? Can

966
00:46:23,239 --> 00:46:25,080
Speaker 3: we run that right now? Yeah? See what's going on?

967
00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:25,919
Speaker 3: That was good?

968
00:46:26,239 --> 00:46:28,360
Speaker 1: Uh institute this morning on seven hundred w W to

969
00:46:28,360 --> 00:46:30,680
Speaker 1: Don PEPPERRELLI sell them cars from Mercedes spends a fort Mitchell.

970
00:46:30,719 --> 00:46:33,320
Speaker 1: He has teamed up yet again for thirty Fifthaniel Marti Gras.

971
00:46:33,440 --> 00:46:36,360
Speaker 1: We've got Amy floyd In, the executive director of the

972
00:46:36,480 --> 00:46:39,239
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow Foundation, and a guy named Gordy Snyder who

973
00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:43,080
Speaker 1: just shows up when the food's and drink and all this.

974
00:46:43,239 --> 00:46:46,799
Speaker 1: By the way, tickets available at Martigra twenty twenty six

975
00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:49,400
Speaker 1: dot org. You can also stop by if you know

976
00:46:49,480 --> 00:46:52,160
Speaker 1: where Brighton Center or Welcome House or Bethany Houses in

977
00:46:52,200 --> 00:46:54,520
Speaker 1: Cincinnati stop by that selling their tickets as well too.

978
00:46:54,520 --> 00:46:55,680
Speaker 3: How are we doing on ticket sales?

979
00:46:55,800 --> 00:46:57,840
Speaker 10: We're doing good, but we still got a few left, okay,

980
00:46:57,880 --> 00:47:00,160
Speaker 10: And we also got some corporate sponsorships left. I'll have

981
00:47:00,200 --> 00:47:02,480
Speaker 10: to see some companies you know in our area step

982
00:47:02,560 --> 00:47:06,360
Speaker 10: up and do a sponsorship, just like you know Mercedes

983
00:47:06,360 --> 00:47:07,719
Speaker 10: Benz a Fort mitchell As.

984
00:47:07,560 --> 00:47:09,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, and the Joe Burrow phund There's different levels of

985
00:47:09,600 --> 00:47:11,520
Speaker 1: doing this too. And here here's the imperative, right is

986
00:47:11,560 --> 00:47:14,439
Speaker 1: if you have these kids, they're hungry. The economy could

987
00:47:14,480 --> 00:47:16,960
Speaker 1: be better, right, People, especially working folks, are feeling the

988
00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:19,160
Speaker 1: pinch of this too. So we're getting more families in

989
00:47:19,160 --> 00:47:21,600
Speaker 1: the system than ever before. And all you're doing is

990
00:47:21,600 --> 00:47:23,120
Speaker 1: buying a ticket to go and have a good time,

991
00:47:23,239 --> 00:47:25,399
Speaker 1: eat and drink and maybe make some new friends, bring

992
00:47:25,440 --> 00:47:28,279
Speaker 1: some old friends. Great Valentine's Day gift, by the way,

993
00:47:28,280 --> 00:47:29,839
Speaker 1: if you're looking for something instead of the tired old

994
00:47:29,880 --> 00:47:32,640
Speaker 1: flowers and tired box of chocolates or whatever that might be.

995
00:47:34,040 --> 00:47:36,280
Speaker 3: You know, do this instead. It's you know, the tickets

996
00:47:36,280 --> 00:47:37,040
Speaker 3: go what how much?

997
00:47:37,320 --> 00:47:40,400
Speaker 10: Well, they start at one hundred dollars for a regular emission.

998
00:47:40,440 --> 00:47:41,920
Speaker 10: That would get you in at six thirty. But if

999
00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:44,880
Speaker 10: you want to get in at five thirty, the VIP

1000
00:47:44,960 --> 00:47:47,640
Speaker 10: emission is one hundred and twenty five. Yeah, and then

1001
00:47:47,680 --> 00:47:50,040
Speaker 10: we have sponsorships for tables all the way from fifteen

1002
00:47:50,120 --> 00:47:51,120
Speaker 10: hundred up to ten thousand.

1003
00:47:51,200 --> 00:47:52,960
Speaker 1: Okay, So if you have a small business or something

1004
00:47:52,960 --> 00:47:54,359
Speaker 1: you want to like, hey, this seems like a good thing,

1005
00:47:54,400 --> 00:47:56,720
Speaker 1: and you know you're doing some charitable work, please consider

1006
00:47:56,760 --> 00:48:00,080
Speaker 1: this in getting a table on a sponsorship because everything

1007
00:48:00,239 --> 00:48:02,200
Speaker 1: diamond and I mean all the money the restaurants donate,

1008
00:48:02,239 --> 00:48:05,200
Speaker 1: all this stuff, the the alcohol, beverages, and all the

1009
00:48:05,320 --> 00:48:08,640
Speaker 1: everything there is all donated, and all of that money

1010
00:48:08,680 --> 00:48:11,239
Speaker 1: then from ticket sales goes one hundred percent of these charities.

1011
00:48:11,640 --> 00:48:14,000
Speaker 1: And you know you're you're helping feed kids. I mean,

1012
00:48:14,600 --> 00:48:16,359
Speaker 1: is there a more noble thing? I mean, think about it.

1013
00:48:16,360 --> 00:48:17,920
Speaker 1: We just got off the holidays where most of us

1014
00:48:17,960 --> 00:48:19,960
Speaker 1: are going, okay, let's go time to get in THEI

1015
00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:22,440
Speaker 1: kido and then we throw that out of the that

1016
00:48:22,480 --> 00:48:25,000
Speaker 1: goes out the window on the seventeenth. But in between

1017
00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:26,879
Speaker 1: there and thinking, wow, we've got the surplus of food

1018
00:48:26,920 --> 00:48:28,880
Speaker 1: for most people, and yet there's people right here in

1019
00:48:28,920 --> 00:48:32,000
Speaker 1: our community, special little kids that that don't have that

1020
00:48:32,040 --> 00:48:34,600
Speaker 1: food security that we do and in these families, and

1021
00:48:34,640 --> 00:48:37,279
Speaker 1: it's getting worse because the gap between those that have

1022
00:48:37,400 --> 00:48:39,799
Speaker 1: and have it is getting bigger. And that's just an

1023
00:48:39,880 --> 00:48:43,640
Speaker 1: irrefutable truth. So I think it's it's incumbent on a

1024
00:48:43,640 --> 00:48:45,279
Speaker 1: lot of us and most of us anyway, to say, hey,

1025
00:48:45,280 --> 00:48:47,160
Speaker 1: this is this is something we can all get behind.

1026
00:48:47,200 --> 00:48:49,280
Speaker 1: So hopefully if the very lead, just get a ticket,

1027
00:48:49,320 --> 00:48:52,319
Speaker 1: you know, tell your friends, maybe get a hotel room cross,

1028
00:48:52,360 --> 00:48:54,520
Speaker 1: you know, making a midweek little vacre. God knows you

1029
00:48:54,560 --> 00:48:59,759
Speaker 1: need to break. God knows you need to break. Yeah weather, yeah, right, for.

1030
00:48:59,719 --> 00:49:01,320
Speaker 3: The for the kids.

1031
00:49:01,360 --> 00:49:01,480
Speaker 4: Right.

1032
00:49:01,520 --> 00:49:03,320
Speaker 3: You feel good about yourself. You're doing something nice.

1033
00:49:03,360 --> 00:49:05,760
Speaker 1: And I do always feel guilty because I'm getting pelted

1034
00:49:05,760 --> 00:49:08,680
Speaker 1: with bread in the like up there, and when I'm

1035
00:49:08,680 --> 00:49:10,960
Speaker 1: on the float, is king, Oh God, here we.

1036
00:49:10,920 --> 00:49:15,120
Speaker 3: Go, Wow, and we use fresh I know, closs them.

1037
00:49:15,840 --> 00:49:16,600
Speaker 3: Twenty four seven.

1038
00:49:16,880 --> 00:49:18,920
Speaker 1: You bring these roles that have been laying out in

1039
00:49:18,960 --> 00:49:23,520
Speaker 1: the apparently they're frozenre they on your dash for every

1040
00:49:23,600 --> 00:49:25,600
Speaker 1: year they get either I'm getting older or these these

1041
00:49:25,680 --> 00:49:29,879
Speaker 1: roles get harder every year. So the tradition started years

1042
00:49:29,880 --> 00:49:31,960
Speaker 1: ago with Mike McConnell who sat in this chair, and

1043
00:49:31,960 --> 00:49:34,600
Speaker 1: for some reason he bought his degenerate friends and you

1044
00:49:34,640 --> 00:49:36,399
Speaker 1: get up on this big float. So I'm up there,

1045
00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:39,759
Speaker 1: Sheila Gray's up there, and we have the parade with

1046
00:49:39,800 --> 00:49:41,800
Speaker 1: the marching band right from Edgewood and they do a

1047
00:49:41,800 --> 00:49:42,279
Speaker 1: great job.

1048
00:49:42,719 --> 00:49:44,759
Speaker 3: Beachwood. I'm saying, are we going through?

1049
00:49:45,120 --> 00:49:47,360
Speaker 1: And for some reason when we get into the Clossman

1050
00:49:47,400 --> 00:49:51,760
Speaker 1: bread station, we get pelted with so his boys started

1051
00:49:51,760 --> 00:49:53,680
Speaker 1: throwing rolls at I mean, this tradition is continued for

1052
00:49:53,719 --> 00:49:54,680
Speaker 1: probably twenty years.

1053
00:49:55,400 --> 00:49:56,960
Speaker 10: Mike will probably be there again this year.

1054
00:49:57,080 --> 00:49:57,560
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah.

1055
00:49:57,640 --> 00:49:59,239
Speaker 1: And so when I when I die, and they're like,

1056
00:49:59,239 --> 00:50:01,600
Speaker 1: what causes death? I'm sort of yeast infection, probably from

1057
00:50:01,600 --> 00:50:06,240
Speaker 1: the rolls. I don't know what's going on here again.

1058
00:50:06,320 --> 00:50:08,600
Speaker 1: So Marty Grot twenty twenty six dot org is where

1059
00:50:08,640 --> 00:50:11,440
Speaker 1: you can get the tickets. Please consider it if you're

1060
00:50:11,480 --> 00:50:14,040
Speaker 1: thinking about a Valentine's say gift, there's there's none better

1061
00:50:14,719 --> 00:50:17,120
Speaker 1: because it's an experience, right, Since it's buying flowers are

1062
00:50:17,120 --> 00:50:19,840
Speaker 1: going to die in twenty four hours. It's going to

1063
00:50:19,880 --> 00:50:22,920
Speaker 1: be party with a purpose. So Don and Amy and Don,

1064
00:50:22,960 --> 00:50:24,520
Speaker 1: thanks for coming in this morning. I appreciate it. It's

1065
00:50:24,520 --> 00:50:25,640
Speaker 1: great to see you. Thank you, guys.

1066
00:50:25,640 --> 00:50:27,600
Speaker 3: We'll see on the seventeenth. Seventeenth.

1067
00:50:27,719 --> 00:50:30,600
Speaker 1: Y all right, wait, Don's got a car sale with

1068
00:50:30,600 --> 00:50:32,600
Speaker 1: Amy here, so I'll let them go and handle that up.

1069
00:50:33,120 --> 00:50:37,799
Speaker 3: It's time for you also, Let's time to time. We'll

1070
00:50:37,840 --> 00:50:41,960
Speaker 3: get this. We'll get this done. That's what we need

1071
00:50:41,840 --> 00:50:43,640
Speaker 3: with the official car of the Scott's Sloan Show. Jack,

1072
00:50:43,719 --> 00:50:45,320
Speaker 3: Let's get this done, official card of Scott's.

1073
00:50:45,320 --> 00:50:47,319
Speaker 1: All right, we're doing business and we're saving lives here

1074
00:50:47,360 --> 00:50:49,560
Speaker 1: Scott's Loan Show seven hundred ww.

1075
00:50:51,920 --> 00:50:57,799
Speaker 3: Helping you put the big P in profession. Here's our career, Sir,

1076
00:50:58,400 --> 00:51:03,919
Speaker 3: Julie bout. We also put the big P in peanut butter.

1077
00:51:04,160 --> 00:51:07,960
Speaker 1: That's not what Julie BALKI thought I was going to say, Uh, Julie, welcome,

1078
00:51:07,960 --> 00:51:09,799
Speaker 1: how are you well?

1079
00:51:09,840 --> 00:51:11,319
Speaker 11: I didn't think you were going to say anything else.

1080
00:51:11,320 --> 00:51:14,720
Speaker 11: I know you want to keep your job? So do I.

1081
00:51:16,440 --> 00:51:24,000
Speaker 3: Do I really want to keep do I? Anyway?

1082
00:51:24,160 --> 00:51:24,399
Speaker 11: Yeah?

1083
00:51:24,600 --> 00:51:28,120
Speaker 1: No, you know no, of course I do. So the

1084
00:51:28,200 --> 00:51:31,200
Speaker 1: topic is a peanut butter raise. I've never heard that

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00:51:31,320 --> 00:51:34,560
Speaker 1: term before. Is a new Where's it come from? What

1086
00:51:34,600 --> 00:51:37,840
Speaker 1: the hell does that mean? What's a peanut butter raise?

1087
00:51:38,840 --> 00:51:41,480
Speaker 11: I know it's just another example of why we have

1088
00:51:41,560 --> 00:51:46,880
Speaker 11: to make up new things for for clicks.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, peanut butter because it sticks to the roof

1090
00:51:49,600 --> 00:51:50,839
Speaker 1: of your unemployment.

1091
00:51:51,120 --> 00:51:52,200
Speaker 3: I don't know what what does it mean?

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00:51:53,840 --> 00:51:57,440
Speaker 11: It means everybody in the same organization gets the same increase.

1093
00:51:58,000 --> 00:52:02,360
Speaker 11: So an organization, uh organization might come out and say,

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00:52:03,000 --> 00:52:06,600
Speaker 11: you know, in light of everyone is going to get

1095
00:52:06,640 --> 00:52:09,120
Speaker 11: an across the board, So think about peanut butter spreading

1096
00:52:09,120 --> 00:52:12,000
Speaker 11: on bread. It's about an across the board raised. So

1097
00:52:12,080 --> 00:52:13,040
Speaker 11: everybody gets.

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00:52:16,280 --> 00:52:18,440
Speaker 1: Our definition in here at iHeart is it means you

1099
00:52:18,520 --> 00:52:20,279
Speaker 1: to be fired in a jiff. If you don't knock

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00:52:20,320 --> 00:52:20,719
Speaker 1: it up.

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00:52:23,520 --> 00:52:25,440
Speaker 11: Skippy, you can probably do well. Ski skip.

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00:52:26,160 --> 00:52:30,160
Speaker 1: We're gonna we're going to skip your next paychecks, all right,

1103
00:52:30,200 --> 00:52:32,319
Speaker 1: So peanut peanut butter race, Yeah, we take it down

1104
00:52:32,360 --> 00:52:35,600
Speaker 1: the skips. Peanut butter rays is okay. It's spread across

1105
00:52:35,640 --> 00:52:39,160
Speaker 1: the boards from from coast to courst from from cross

1106
00:52:39,160 --> 00:52:39,799
Speaker 1: to cross.

1107
00:52:39,600 --> 00:52:43,200
Speaker 11: Okay to the organization So here's the here's the thing

1108
00:52:43,280 --> 00:52:47,120
Speaker 11: that is I think just really really short sighted, is

1109
00:52:47,560 --> 00:52:52,440
Speaker 11: you are not rewarding your higher performers, and you are

1110
00:52:52,480 --> 00:52:55,719
Speaker 11: telling the organization that it doesn't matter how hard you

1111
00:52:55,800 --> 00:52:59,120
Speaker 11: try or what you accomplish, you will be getting the

1112
00:52:59,280 --> 00:53:02,919
Speaker 11: same amount. You doing three people's jobs, two of which

1113
00:53:02,960 --> 00:53:05,280
Speaker 11: were laid off last year, will get the same amount.

1114
00:53:05,840 --> 00:53:08,040
Speaker 11: I'm ann increase. It's not a merit increase. It's just

1115
00:53:08,080 --> 00:53:12,080
Speaker 11: an increase as the person down the hall who everybody

1116
00:53:12,120 --> 00:53:15,040
Speaker 11: knows is the owner's nephew and sits in plays on

1117
00:53:15,040 --> 00:53:18,879
Speaker 11: the phone all day or so. That's that's where there's

1118
00:53:18,960 --> 00:53:21,120
Speaker 11: like an across the board raised. And then there's things

1119
00:53:21,160 --> 00:53:27,200
Speaker 11: like merit increases, performance increases, performance bonuses. So some of

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00:53:27,239 --> 00:53:30,680
Speaker 11: these organizations might be saying, Okay, we're going to reward

1121
00:53:30,800 --> 00:53:34,839
Speaker 11: our higher performers in other ways, but for sure there

1122
00:53:34,840 --> 00:53:36,640
Speaker 11: are some out there going we don't want to mess

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00:53:36,640 --> 00:53:38,799
Speaker 11: with it. We're just going to give everybody two to

1124
00:53:38,840 --> 00:53:41,280
Speaker 11: three percent across the board and go on our merry

1125
00:53:41,320 --> 00:53:46,040
Speaker 11: way and boil boy. That is that is a motivation killer.

1126
00:53:46,040 --> 00:53:49,440
Speaker 11: Even if you're not somebody who's wildly motivated by money,

1127
00:53:50,040 --> 00:53:54,160
Speaker 11: it still sends the signal that we don't know. Just

1128
00:53:54,160 --> 00:53:57,880
Speaker 11: just do the do the just show up, and everybody's

1129
00:53:57,920 --> 00:53:59,600
Speaker 11: going to get the same amount across the board, which

1130
00:53:59,600 --> 00:54:03,319
Speaker 11: I think is dangerous, especially when the pendulum swings back

1131
00:54:03,320 --> 00:54:06,520
Speaker 11: the other way. Gotcha two more of to a place

1132
00:54:06,520 --> 00:54:09,239
Speaker 11: where your best people can leave and they will remember this.

1133
00:54:10,000 --> 00:54:11,560
Speaker 11: You got to be really, really careful when you do

1134
00:54:11,600 --> 00:54:12,440
Speaker 11: across the board things.

1135
00:54:12,480 --> 00:54:14,440
Speaker 1: All right, there's always people that are like, well, you

1136
00:54:14,480 --> 00:54:17,800
Speaker 1: know you're complaining about You're complaining about this not eating

1137
00:54:17,800 --> 00:54:19,080
Speaker 1: and even though you've got a half a loaf of

1138
00:54:19,120 --> 00:54:20,600
Speaker 1: bread out of your arm, I don't have a low

1139
00:54:20,640 --> 00:54:23,480
Speaker 1: foot all What about people who are getting any raise

1140
00:54:23,560 --> 00:54:26,680
Speaker 1: whatsoever and now but for the foreseeable future, there there's

1141
00:54:26,680 --> 00:54:27,279
Speaker 1: people like that.

1142
00:54:27,280 --> 00:54:28,960
Speaker 3: What about them?

1143
00:54:29,520 --> 00:54:32,040
Speaker 11: And what about the people who are unemployed and have

1144
00:54:32,120 --> 00:54:35,239
Speaker 11: no salary to get a raise on top of? So yeah,

1145
00:54:35,280 --> 00:54:38,560
Speaker 11: I mean there's always a situation. I think it's it's

1146
00:54:38,560 --> 00:54:41,799
Speaker 11: like the analogy that I feel sorry for myself, and

1147
00:54:41,960 --> 00:54:44,279
Speaker 11: I believe this is analogy I just made up. I

1148
00:54:44,320 --> 00:54:46,239
Speaker 11: feel sorry for myself because I lost my arm. Well,

1149
00:54:46,280 --> 00:54:48,200
Speaker 11: you're not allowed to feel sorry for yourself because you

1150
00:54:48,200 --> 00:54:50,439
Speaker 11: have another arm. Think about the people with no arms.

1151
00:54:50,520 --> 00:54:52,799
Speaker 11: Oh okay, what about the people with no legs? What

1152
00:54:52,880 --> 00:54:55,640
Speaker 11: about you? Know, so I think it's unfair to say

1153
00:54:56,400 --> 00:54:59,200
Speaker 11: just be happy. It's really let the meat take, you know,

1154
00:54:59,560 --> 00:55:02,040
Speaker 11: just be happy because what you have, because of course

1155
00:55:02,880 --> 00:55:06,480
Speaker 11: you appreciate the two or three percent. Of course, I mean,

1156
00:55:06,480 --> 00:55:09,759
Speaker 11: nobody's going to say take it back, but if you

1157
00:55:09,840 --> 00:55:12,279
Speaker 11: have to. We are humans, not not machines. And so

1158
00:55:12,360 --> 00:55:14,759
Speaker 11: you have to look at if I've been busting my

1159
00:55:14,840 --> 00:55:18,200
Speaker 11: butt for the past year because I'm a good performer,

1160
00:55:18,239 --> 00:55:21,680
Speaker 11: and your strong performers always get piled on. It's just

1161
00:55:21,719 --> 00:55:24,399
Speaker 11: a fact of life because the organization knows they'll get

1162
00:55:24,400 --> 00:55:27,040
Speaker 11: it done. And so if you've been taken one or

1163
00:55:27,040 --> 00:55:29,640
Speaker 11: two or three for the team this whole time, and

1164
00:55:30,800 --> 00:55:33,520
Speaker 11: you and now all of a sudden, it's like, you know,

1165
00:55:33,560 --> 00:55:35,320
Speaker 11: thank you start, Can I have another? You're not getting

1166
00:55:35,320 --> 00:55:38,719
Speaker 11: any sort of an increase for that at all. I think,

1167
00:55:38,760 --> 00:55:41,160
Speaker 11: then you've got and then you've got a real problem.

1168
00:55:41,200 --> 00:55:43,640
Speaker 11: You've got a real moral and engagement problem. And those

1169
00:55:43,680 --> 00:55:46,560
Speaker 11: people who are working hard, Mike might say, you know,

1170
00:55:46,719 --> 00:55:48,720
Speaker 11: why exactly am I doing this? I'm going to spend

1171
00:55:48,800 --> 00:55:51,399
Speaker 11: maybe some of this time I've been spending on doing

1172
00:55:51,440 --> 00:55:53,319
Speaker 11: the person doing the job of Fred who just got

1173
00:55:53,400 --> 00:55:56,319
Speaker 11: laid off. I'm going to take that that time, and

1174
00:55:56,320 --> 00:55:57,839
Speaker 11: I'm going to spend it trying to start a side

1175
00:55:57,920 --> 00:56:01,759
Speaker 11: hustle or you know, pick not a hobby or and

1176
00:56:01,840 --> 00:56:04,200
Speaker 11: you know what I mean, just can't really blame them.

1177
00:56:04,200 --> 00:56:05,840
Speaker 11: So I think you've gotta be really, really careful. And

1178
00:56:05,880 --> 00:56:07,560
Speaker 11: I get that it's tricky times. I get it.

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00:56:07,800 --> 00:56:10,000
Speaker 1: Well, minimum wage mindmum effort, now, I get it. Yeah,

1180
00:56:10,000 --> 00:56:11,640
Speaker 1: because people are like, well, man, at least you're getting

1181
00:56:11,640 --> 00:56:13,400
Speaker 1: two percent. I don't get I got one. I got

1182
00:56:13,480 --> 00:56:15,839
Speaker 1: nothing last year or the year before. And okay, well,

1183
00:56:15,880 --> 00:56:18,000
Speaker 1: and I get it because you know, it's relative to

1184
00:56:18,040 --> 00:56:21,080
Speaker 1: your income and your situation and if if your in

1185
00:56:21,200 --> 00:56:22,680
Speaker 1: had not to be your uncle, I get it. I

1186
00:56:22,719 --> 00:56:26,200
Speaker 1: get Julie boucare career ship. What do you say Julie's

1187
00:56:26,239 --> 00:56:29,360
Speaker 1: boucare careership on the Scotsland Show on seven hundred W welw.

1188
00:56:30,239 --> 00:56:32,919
Speaker 1: So the pant butter raises across the board. Prairiise isn't

1189
00:56:32,960 --> 00:56:34,960
Speaker 1: a like but that's the way. I mean.

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Speaker 3: It's been that way a lot of companies for a

1191
00:56:36,360 --> 00:56:37,760
Speaker 3: long time. Is it ever going to change?

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00:56:39,040 --> 00:56:41,880
Speaker 11: It has? And you know what, what a companion A

1193
00:56:41,880 --> 00:56:46,759
Speaker 11: piece of information that is that over the last I

1194
00:56:46,840 --> 00:56:49,600
Speaker 11: mean years, thirty maybe thirty fifty years. It's in a while,

1195
00:56:50,360 --> 00:56:54,680
Speaker 11: CEO compensation has shot up one thousand percent while worker

1196
00:56:54,680 --> 00:56:56,879
Speaker 11: pay has gone up twenty six percent. So the rate

1197
00:56:56,960 --> 00:57:01,440
Speaker 11: the gaps between the CEO and the lowest worker because

1198
00:57:01,480 --> 00:57:03,880
Speaker 11: of what a lot of times what a company is

1199
00:57:03,880 --> 00:57:06,600
Speaker 11: the here everybody, here's your two and a half percent.

1200
00:57:07,239 --> 00:57:11,239
Speaker 11: Is the CEO getting a huge performance bonus? Maybe it's

1201
00:57:11,239 --> 00:57:14,959
Speaker 11: in stock opjects, maybe it's cash, maybe it's a huge raise,

1202
00:57:15,600 --> 00:57:21,800
Speaker 11: And it's really really hard to take that seriously and

1203
00:57:22,000 --> 00:57:24,800
Speaker 11: believe the organization and trust the organizations. This is the

1204
00:57:24,800 --> 00:57:27,120
Speaker 11: best we can do this year given the market, customers

1205
00:57:27,120 --> 00:57:31,680
Speaker 11: blah blah blah. When you've got your CEO, who's they're

1206
00:57:31,720 --> 00:57:32,520
Speaker 11: talking as.

1207
00:57:32,360 --> 00:57:32,800
Speaker 4: You look it up?

1208
00:57:32,840 --> 00:57:35,760
Speaker 11: Because public companies are information is online. He or she

1209
00:57:36,000 --> 00:57:39,760
Speaker 11: got a massive salary increase or performance bonus even in

1210
00:57:39,880 --> 00:57:43,760
Speaker 11: years when even in years when business wasn't good because

1211
00:57:43,760 --> 00:57:48,000
Speaker 11: a lot of these bonuses are written into their contracts,

1212
00:57:48,040 --> 00:57:49,880
Speaker 11: and you know, so there's a lot of a lot

1213
00:57:49,920 --> 00:57:52,000
Speaker 11: of you can't blame them forgetting what they can get,

1214
00:57:52,560 --> 00:57:55,880
Speaker 11: but you've got to understand how it looks, what the

1215
00:57:55,920 --> 00:57:59,600
Speaker 11: optics are when you talk about the rest of the

1216
00:57:59,640 --> 00:58:02,960
Speaker 11: folks trying to have swollow the fact that you're not

1217
00:58:03,040 --> 00:58:04,520
Speaker 11: getting any rays this year.

1218
00:58:04,600 --> 00:58:06,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, good for you. It's like, you know, well,

1219
00:58:06,320 --> 00:58:07,840
Speaker 1: you know, it's a different thing. You see you and

1220
00:58:07,840 --> 00:58:09,560
Speaker 1: there's so few of them and it's you. You don't

1221
00:58:09,640 --> 00:58:12,000
Speaker 1: understand them, and a lot of it's bonus, and it's like, yeah,

1222
00:58:12,040 --> 00:58:13,240
Speaker 1: all well and good. I mean, you can tell me

1223
00:58:13,280 --> 00:58:15,200
Speaker 1: that I don't really care about your situation. I care

1224
00:58:15,240 --> 00:58:18,120
Speaker 1: about mine, and if it's not improving, we got to

1225
00:58:18,120 --> 00:58:20,200
Speaker 1: do different things on that regard to And I think

1226
00:58:20,200 --> 00:58:23,000
Speaker 1: this also has to do with I mean, in the past,

1227
00:58:23,000 --> 00:58:29,280
Speaker 1: it's a bet about gender discrimination, racial discrimination, age discrimination. Uh,

1228
00:58:29,360 --> 00:58:32,920
Speaker 1: there's a factor here, Julie bias versus mediocrity. So the

1229
00:58:32,960 --> 00:58:34,720
Speaker 1: reason why a company would do this in across the

1230
00:58:34,720 --> 00:58:38,440
Speaker 1: board race for everybody is subjectivity and bias. Those are

1231
00:58:38,440 --> 00:58:42,000
Speaker 1: concerns because the peanut butter approach, I guess creates its

1232
00:58:42,000 --> 00:58:44,600
Speaker 1: own form of equity because it treats exceptional and mediocre

1233
00:58:44,680 --> 00:58:47,160
Speaker 1: performers the same way. It's kind of a union model,

1234
00:58:47,200 --> 00:58:49,640
Speaker 1: you know, not all unions, but it's always been Hey,

1235
00:58:49,680 --> 00:58:51,720
Speaker 1: you know, you could be the guy slacking not shown up.

1236
00:58:51,720 --> 00:58:53,240
Speaker 1: You get the same amount of money as somebody who

1237
00:58:53,240 --> 00:58:55,880
Speaker 1: really cares about making a better product or doing their job.

1238
00:58:56,480 --> 00:58:59,000
Speaker 1: The same thing applies here, I think too, because you

1239
00:58:59,040 --> 00:59:01,920
Speaker 1: could also have well handing raises out to people. Oh

1240
00:59:02,120 --> 00:59:04,280
Speaker 1: this person kisses my ass a lot, she hears she

1241
00:59:04,320 --> 00:59:06,000
Speaker 1: gets a raise. Man, Well, I don't really do anything,

1242
00:59:06,040 --> 00:59:08,080
Speaker 1: and the guy's working hard who's just keeps his head

1243
00:59:08,120 --> 00:59:11,320
Speaker 1: down and doesn't, you know, interact as much, gets nothing.

1244
00:59:11,400 --> 00:59:13,720
Speaker 1: So the other side of this is just as bad,

1245
00:59:13,760 --> 00:59:14,040
Speaker 1: isn't it.

1246
00:59:15,400 --> 00:59:15,680
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1247
00:59:15,720 --> 00:59:18,000
Speaker 11: But but what that what that is, what all of

1248
00:59:18,040 --> 00:59:22,040
Speaker 11: this is a symptom of is a poorly designed and

1249
00:59:22,160 --> 00:59:28,280
Speaker 11: poorly and or poorly executed compensation plan that the company

1250
00:59:28,320 --> 00:59:31,120
Speaker 11: really doesn't have any belief in. And so if you've

1251
00:59:31,160 --> 00:59:33,320
Speaker 11: got let's say you said, okay, we're going to do

1252
00:59:33,680 --> 00:59:35,760
Speaker 11: two percent across the board, we're going to take that

1253
00:59:35,840 --> 00:59:38,640
Speaker 11: one percent extra one percent, and we're going to put

1254
00:59:38,680 --> 00:59:42,040
Speaker 11: it in a pot, and we're going to give it

1255
00:59:42,120 --> 00:59:45,880
Speaker 11: out as bonuses to people who are from a performance system.

1256
00:59:45,880 --> 00:59:47,640
Speaker 11: Won't say it's a scale one to five or something

1257
00:59:47,680 --> 00:59:48,280
Speaker 11: simple like that.

1258
00:59:48,600 --> 00:59:49,240
Speaker 4: For fours and.

1259
00:59:49,200 --> 00:59:52,720
Speaker 11: Five, Okay, you still got your two percent. Everybody gets

1260
00:59:52,720 --> 00:59:56,280
Speaker 11: their two percent, but at least you're acknowledging that the

1261
00:59:56,360 --> 00:59:59,040
Speaker 11: people who are your strong performers, and you can even

1262
00:59:59,280 --> 01:00:01,720
Speaker 11: when you actually talk to people and say, look, you

1263
01:00:01,760 --> 01:00:03,640
Speaker 11: know that this is a tough year. I'm doing the

1264
01:00:03,640 --> 01:00:06,120
Speaker 11: best I can. I really appreciate you. You know, everybody

1265
01:00:06,120 --> 01:00:08,480
Speaker 11: got a two percent across the board. I'm also going

1266
01:00:08,520 --> 01:00:10,640
Speaker 11: to give We're also giving our top performers of what

1267
01:00:10,800 --> 01:00:15,000
Speaker 11: you're one, an extra five thousand dollars, two thousand dollars,

1268
01:00:15,400 --> 01:00:19,400
Speaker 11: five hundred dollars. It's at least an acknowledgment. And this

1269
01:00:19,440 --> 01:00:23,680
Speaker 11: is the thing that leaders get so wrong because they're

1270
01:00:23,720 --> 01:00:27,000
Speaker 11: embarrassed and they don't want to say, oh yeah, sorry,

1271
01:00:27,000 --> 01:00:30,200
Speaker 11: you're not getting that extra increase that I think I

1272
01:00:30,240 --> 01:00:32,080
Speaker 11: told you you might get. So let's not make eye

1273
01:00:32,080 --> 01:00:35,320
Speaker 11: contacted the whole way. You're actually treating people like adults,

1274
01:00:35,480 --> 01:00:38,360
Speaker 11: which is all that people really want. And will they

1275
01:00:38,400 --> 01:00:41,439
Speaker 11: always be happy, of course not. But it comes down

1276
01:00:41,480 --> 01:00:43,600
Speaker 11: to the way you're handling it and the fact you're

1277
01:00:43,600 --> 01:00:46,080
Speaker 11: addressing it and handling it all. That's what leadership is.

1278
01:00:46,440 --> 01:00:48,560
Speaker 11: Anything other than that is just being a coward.

1279
01:00:48,760 --> 01:00:51,120
Speaker 1: What what's the data show about the retention rates though

1280
01:00:51,120 --> 01:00:53,760
Speaker 1: for top performers and companies that use peanut butter raises

1281
01:00:53,880 --> 01:00:54,720
Speaker 1: versus merit base.

1282
01:00:54,960 --> 01:00:58,040
Speaker 11: Yeah, I don't know. I haven't seen that. I've not seen.

1283
01:00:58,280 --> 01:01:01,040
Speaker 3: Isn't that your job, isn't it?

1284
01:01:01,600 --> 01:01:06,320
Speaker 11: I don't know. As long as there's too many, there's

1285
01:01:06,360 --> 01:01:06,760
Speaker 11: too many.

1286
01:01:07,240 --> 01:01:09,439
Speaker 3: Here's somebody just begging not to get a raise.

1287
01:01:09,480 --> 01:01:09,520
Speaker 6: This.

1288
01:01:09,640 --> 01:01:12,680
Speaker 3: You're Julie Bouki. When you're heading that, you're the CEO.

1289
01:01:12,840 --> 01:01:14,800
Speaker 1: You get all the money, all the glory, all the

1290
01:01:14,800 --> 01:01:17,280
Speaker 1: stock options, and yet you don't contribute anything.

1291
01:01:17,400 --> 01:01:19,200
Speaker 3: Let's turn this mayor around a second.

1292
01:01:20,160 --> 01:01:22,720
Speaker 11: Let's talk about my raises. Now, let's talk about my

1293
01:01:22,920 --> 01:01:26,880
Speaker 11: pay that I never get from iHeart for all of

1294
01:01:26,920 --> 01:01:29,080
Speaker 11: the great value I bring to your little show.

1295
01:01:29,240 --> 01:01:36,080
Speaker 1: Well, well that makes two of us. Yeah, but I

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Speaker 1: think that's a fair question. Though in all seriousness, is it? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it doesn't help retention rates. I would imagine it does.

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Speaker 11: Well, So we are in and let's let's be fair here.

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Speaker 11: We are in a very very very challenging time. And

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Speaker 11: that's the other side of this, really, is that you

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Speaker 11: are in a situation where employers are they are trying

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Speaker 11: to do in a lot of cases. You know, they're

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Speaker 11: they're everybody everybody. So so the person who makes the

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Speaker 11: decision about you getting the two just represent raised the

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Speaker 11: person who gives you that news, they're in the same

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Speaker 11: boat you are because they also have on it. They

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Speaker 11: also have an employee hat that they wear. And so

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Speaker 11: it's tough time. Number one, number two we are This

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Speaker 11: has been true and will be true forever. This is

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Speaker 11: all econ one oh one, and that is when the

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Speaker 11: job market is tough, and it's very tough, people will

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Speaker 11: they will take what you give them. They will know

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Speaker 11: they will hang on to their job because they've heard

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Speaker 11: and seen the horror stories of people applying for jobs

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Speaker 11: and being unemployed for long periods of time. And so

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Speaker 11: when that is true of the markets, then you also

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Speaker 11: have the fact that they will hang on, grit their teeth,

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Speaker 11: be grateful for a job. But that is not a

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Speaker 11: permanent condition because when the pendulum goes the other way,

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Speaker 11: and it will because it always does, then your good

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Speaker 11: people will remember this. They will remember how you treated them,

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Speaker 11: and they will be the first ones out the door.

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Speaker 11: Why because they can because they have options. Everybody knows

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Speaker 11: it's a transparent world. Now, if you're at a competitor

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Speaker 11: of yours, you probably know who the top people are.

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Speaker 11: You could easily find out. So it's not like I've

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Speaker 11: got to go knock on your company's door to steal

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Speaker 11: your people anymore. And so it's a short term strategy.

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Speaker 11: But if you don't, it's when things start turning around.

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Speaker 11: You don't go back in and right your wrongs because

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Speaker 11: you can, and you hope people forget what you forget

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Speaker 11: all this. They're not going to They're either going to

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Speaker 11: give you less on the job and the orders, they're

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Speaker 11: going to cut back their work, or they're going to quit.

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Speaker 11: It's just human nature. And we can argue all day

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Speaker 11: whether it's there shouldn't be like that, but it just is.

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Speaker 11: As long as I've been in this business, which is

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Speaker 11: about one hundred decades at this point, it is always

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Speaker 11: been true.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a question about all I would say this.

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Speaker 1: You know, for the peanut butter we're talking about what's

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Speaker 1: called a peanut butter raise, and if you're not familiar

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Speaker 1: with that term, it's nothing new. It's basically everyone gets

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Speaker 1: two percent, three percent, whatever it is across the board,

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Speaker 1: regardless of a hard how good you are, howrd you work,

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Speaker 1: and if you're a top performer, not everyone gets the

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Speaker 1: same raise, which of course disincentivizes the top performers.

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Speaker 3: If that's the case.

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Speaker 1: The other fact is if it's a three percent raise, well, okay,

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Speaker 1: that just barely keeps pace with inflation. That's another factor

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Speaker 1: here too. I mean, raises are just cost of living.

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Speaker 1: It's not like you're good, you're getting more money, but

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Speaker 1: everything costs more express so you're just basically keeping up.

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Speaker 1: You're not getting more if you're a top performer. That's

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Speaker 1: got to be really concerning.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, absolutely, and it is. It is okay to have

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Speaker 11: a different pay structure, a different payout plan, a different

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Speaker 11: plan for your top performers. It's also okay to set

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Speaker 11: expectations with your people about what strong performance looks like

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Speaker 11: very clearly, and then measure them to that, hold them

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Speaker 11: to that, and bonus slash, give them a marriacrease. That

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Speaker 11: is okay. I don't know why we're so afraid of

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Speaker 11: having a system of creating a system that works inside

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Speaker 11: of an organization so that at the end of the year,

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Speaker 11: if you're getting you know, if you're if you have

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Speaker 11: a really good review coming with a nice increase, you

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Speaker 11: should already know that in advance. Yeah, the other way.

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Speaker 3: Around, right, Well, why.

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Speaker 11: Are we being so secretive? And what it looks like

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Speaker 11: to succeed?

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Speaker 3: What does this look like?

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Speaker 1: Not for you know, baby boomers like yourself, gen xers

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Speaker 1: like me, millennials like Sarah Lease, what does that look

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Speaker 1: like for Gen Z workers for example too?

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Speaker 3: I mean the new wave? Uh oh is that your

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Speaker 3: heart monitor?

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Speaker 6: What is that.

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Speaker 11: About that? What's it look like for them?

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Speaker 1: By the way, I love you on Q I said,

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Speaker 1: like you baby boomers and your phone goes off super loud,

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Speaker 1: like you're in church and it takes you ten minutes

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Speaker 1: to get it.

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Speaker 3: Because it's in your purse.

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Speaker 11: On my phone with you. So what they So they

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Speaker 11: are When you think about how people look at work

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Speaker 11: and how it fits into your life, we it comes

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Speaker 11: from your years of working and living. And for those

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Speaker 11: of us who are Gen X and boomers, we after

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Speaker 11: a while you've seen something. We have seen all these

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Speaker 11: changes that about how work fits into our lives when

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Speaker 11: the employer employee relationship is or not. And so our

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Speaker 11: perspective is we are seeing it swing very much the

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Speaker 11: other way. And so for people who are older in

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Speaker 11: the workforce, this is absolutely hand ringing, pro clutching, what

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Speaker 11: the heck are we doing? But when you've got the

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Speaker 11: younger generations, their entire experience, they can't live through what

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Speaker 11: we live through.

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Speaker 4: So their entire.

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Speaker 11: Experience is what the how? That what they've seen personally,

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Speaker 11: and then sometimes you know how your parents what what

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Speaker 11: how you've seen what you've seen in other people in

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Speaker 11: terms of the employer employee relationship. So that's why I

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Speaker 11: think we're seeing this. The younger generations are saying, I'm

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Speaker 11: not sure this is a good deal, and so we

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Speaker 11: really they just they look at corporate life and say,

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Speaker 11: what exactly is a feeling about this? And they're not wrong.

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Speaker 11: But the thing is, the older people we never we

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Speaker 11: were kind of like about it too, but we didn't

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Speaker 11: have any options and so we didn't know any better,

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Speaker 11: and so we just sucked it up. But it is

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Speaker 11: not uncommon for a younger person to go into a

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Speaker 11: job for a couple of years and say, oh my gosh,

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Speaker 11: wait a minute, is this what my next forty plus

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Speaker 11: years look like? Ye, and say no thanks, and then

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Speaker 11: they start to look for something else. So I think,

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Speaker 11: really corporations are kind of in trouble when it comes

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Speaker 11: to being able to attract and keep people from the

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Speaker 11: younger generation.

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Speaker 1: Julie, let me put this in the context, right, I

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Speaker 1: tell me if I'm wrong, and I think it just fits.

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Speaker 1: It's everything is predictable when it comes to generations or

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Speaker 1: at the generation gap. So I mentioned, you know, the

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Speaker 1: generations that are just right now. I think this is

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Speaker 1: what happened. So as a Gen X or as a

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Speaker 1: baby boomer, you and baby your parents, maybe your grandparents

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Speaker 1: worked physical hard jobs. My grandfather, Johnny Trucks, drove a

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Speaker 1: truck for A and P supermarkets for thirty forty years

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Speaker 1: back before they had like manual steer of power steering.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you know, huge forums because he's taking a

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Speaker 1: big truck and driving it and there's no you know,

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Speaker 1: no air conditioning, nothing like that. We had people in

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Speaker 1: my family that are labors, right, They're out there, they're

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Speaker 1: building stuff, they're making things. It's really really hard work.

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Speaker 1: It's hard work today, but not like it was back

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Speaker 1: in the day. Because you have more automation, you have robots,

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Speaker 1: you have safety government mandated by the government, you have know,

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Speaker 1: mandated breaks, you have all these things in there. And

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Speaker 1: also you know, the mechanic mechanicals got better to the

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Speaker 1: idea that somehow you're on a you don't see anybody

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Speaker 1: building a skyscraper or walking up on a girder or

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Speaker 1: without any safety gear on. Right, like you saw when

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Speaker 1: they're building the Empire State Building. You know how many

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Speaker 1: people died when they're making the subway system or building dams,

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Speaker 1: Hoover Dam, things like that. You don't see that anymore

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Speaker 1: because safety is paramount. But the technology is so much better.

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Speaker 1: So back when we were younger, when I was younger,

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Speaker 1: we saw our parents and saw their parents do that.

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Speaker 3: Kind of work.

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Speaker 1: Now we don't want you to. We want to go

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Speaker 1: to college because that way you're not there breaking your back.

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Speaker 1: You're not broken down. By the time you're fifty years old.

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Speaker 1: You know, you do something with your mind and not

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Speaker 1: with your hands. Work smarter, not harder. And so we

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Speaker 1: have a general a couple of generations now that have

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Speaker 1: done that and said, okay, and now that's kind of

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Speaker 1: played out, going to wait a minute, I put all

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Speaker 1: this effort, I pull this time in. I'm getting a

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Speaker 1: three percent raise or no raise. It's a corporate structure.

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Speaker 1: I got to be there. My boss is a jerk.

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Speaker 1: I don't really produce it. I'm not sure what I do.

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Speaker 1: I'm stuck inside. I don't like this at all. And

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Speaker 1: now I think this generation comes along says well what

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Speaker 1: about the trades? Because they didn't see what our parents saw,

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Speaker 1: And so once again, in thirty years, it'll probably go

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Speaker 1: the other way, going, well, we got all that my

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Speaker 1: parents were, you know, my dad was working in hvac

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Speaker 1: for example, or like you know, he's a plumber and

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Speaker 1: his knees are all banged up. At fifty, I want

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Speaker 1: to go to college. I would imagine in a couple

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Speaker 1: generations it goes back the way it was in America.

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Speaker 1: The pendulum always swings. That's why history repeats itself. Am

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Speaker 1: I right or wrong about that?

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Speaker 11: Yeah? Exactly exactly. But what's so interesting is where we

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Speaker 11: are now back and it wasn't that long ago. It's

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Speaker 11: probably frand from nine to eleven. I remember this very clearly.

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Speaker 11: When the conversation changed. It used to be you had

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Speaker 11: to pick a lane, so I am going to be

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Speaker 11: corporates corporate, or I'm going to have something on my own.

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Speaker 11: And it was very much because I remember the coaching

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Speaker 11: back then was pretty much okay, at some point you

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Speaker 11: have to pick a lane. And the beauty is. After

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Speaker 11: nine eleven, the job market was a mess, and it

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01:10:43,360 --> 01:10:46,160
Speaker 11: really came back as now you don't because plenty of

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Speaker 11: clients that I had them because they couldn't find a job,

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Speaker 11: started something on their own for a few years and

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Speaker 11: then went back to corporate. And so it was at

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Speaker 11: that moment that the first vestiges of wait a minute,

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Speaker 11: I can do different things at different times. I can

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Speaker 11: swing back and forth and not look like I can't

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Speaker 11: make up my mind. That's when we first start having

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Speaker 11: those conversations. It really was the very beginning of this

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Speaker 11: conversation that your career happens in chapters, just like your

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Speaker 11: life does. Yeah, that makes sense, Okay, those chapters can

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Speaker 11: contain different things, all.

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Speaker 1: Right, Julie Balki your career, Shirpa, now you know what

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Speaker 1: a peanut butter raises. She's at the Bauki Group. B

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Speaker 1: a UK jumps in every Wednesday with career stuff. You

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Speaker 1: have a great week. Thanks again for the inside really

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Speaker 1: interesting stuff. Appreciate it. Let me get a news update

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Speaker 3: There again, there's stories here. Well you hear some of

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01:11:58,000 --> 01:11:58,840
Speaker 3: the stories.

1508
01:11:58,520 --> 01:12:01,479
Speaker 1: Of incompetent and it's at the highest levels of the state.

1509
01:12:01,520 --> 01:12:04,479
Speaker 1: It's gonna make your eyes water. I'll cut to the

1510
01:12:04,560 --> 01:12:06,400
Speaker 1: chase and let you know how much Columbus gets the

1511
01:12:06,400 --> 01:12:08,560
Speaker 1: most in the state. About four point seven million, Cincinnati

1512
01:12:08,560 --> 01:12:11,000
Speaker 1: two and a half million. Columbia Township is up on

1513
01:12:11,040 --> 01:12:12,200
Speaker 1: the top of the list, or near the top of

1514
01:12:12,200 --> 01:12:14,519
Speaker 1: the list anyway, one point six million, nor would get

1515
01:12:14,520 --> 01:12:17,960
Speaker 1: six hundred seventy thousand dollars. Union Township in Claremont County

1516
01:12:18,000 --> 01:12:20,920
Speaker 1: about seven fifty three, Milford six sixty one, and Hamilon

1517
01:12:20,960 --> 01:12:23,479
Speaker 1: County Whitewater Township six hundred thousand. Those are the big

1518
01:12:23,479 --> 01:12:26,599
Speaker 1: ones in our area on this and the story behind

1519
01:12:26,880 --> 01:12:29,280
Speaker 1: maybe explaining why it took eighteen months to figure this

1520
01:12:29,360 --> 01:12:33,360
Speaker 1: out is Ohio Senator Steve Huffman from Tips City. Good morning, Senator,

1521
01:12:33,360 --> 01:12:34,240
Speaker 1: how are you morning?

1522
01:12:34,720 --> 01:12:37,160
Speaker 4: Oh you know, cold and snowy.

1523
01:12:36,840 --> 01:12:39,720
Speaker 3: But I got it. We live in It's what it is.

1524
01:12:39,800 --> 01:12:41,120
Speaker 3: It's what it is. I understand that.

1525
01:12:41,640 --> 01:12:44,240
Speaker 1: So the bottom line here is they get cities who

1526
01:12:44,240 --> 01:12:46,080
Speaker 1: are in on this get thirty six percent of the

1527
01:12:46,160 --> 01:12:49,200
Speaker 1: ten percent excise tax, and the remaining sixty four of

1528
01:12:49,200 --> 01:12:51,720
Speaker 1: that goes to the general fund to be used for

1529
01:12:51,880 --> 01:12:54,800
Speaker 1: well whatever it might be, including social equity and mental

1530
01:12:54,800 --> 01:12:59,280
Speaker 1: health and addiction services, cannibal cannabis control. Local governments have

1531
01:12:59,400 --> 01:13:02,040
Speaker 1: discretion to spend the money on that. I know Cleveland's

1532
01:13:02,040 --> 01:13:05,960
Speaker 1: going to put money into public safety and roads. It's

1533
01:13:06,000 --> 01:13:07,800
Speaker 1: up to those local media spells to do with what

1534
01:13:07,800 --> 01:13:11,280
Speaker 1: they want. Are there guidelines? Are there? Are there certain

1535
01:13:11,280 --> 01:13:12,880
Speaker 1: things they can they can't do with that money? Or

1536
01:13:13,800 --> 01:13:14,360
Speaker 1: how does that work?

1537
01:13:14,479 --> 01:13:17,519
Speaker 4: No, they can do whatever they want and whatever they

1538
01:13:17,600 --> 01:13:22,000
Speaker 4: feel that their jurisdiction needs. And you know, I've not

1539
01:13:22,080 --> 01:13:26,400
Speaker 4: heard anything from Cincinnati what their plan is, but they

1540
01:13:26,400 --> 01:13:27,200
Speaker 4: can do what they want.

1541
01:13:27,960 --> 01:13:32,880
Speaker 1: All right, So let's talk about how it took eighteen months.

1542
01:13:32,960 --> 01:13:35,360
Speaker 1: Let's start there, a year and a half of the

1543
01:13:35,360 --> 01:13:38,240
Speaker 1: promised tax revenue because there were quote unquote procedural issues.

1544
01:13:38,280 --> 01:13:38,840
Speaker 3: What does that mean?

1545
01:13:40,000 --> 01:13:41,599
Speaker 1: Well, so the way that.

1546
01:13:41,640 --> 01:13:45,280
Speaker 4: The referendum was actually written. It said basically it said

1547
01:13:45,320 --> 01:13:48,320
Speaker 4: collect the money, but there was not an avenue that

1548
01:13:48,400 --> 01:13:53,240
Speaker 4: said pay the money out. And so the legal scholars

1549
01:13:53,240 --> 01:13:55,320
Speaker 4: looked at him, said, well, we can't do that because

1550
01:13:55,320 --> 01:13:58,080
Speaker 4: it doesn't tell us to spend the money. And so

1551
01:13:58,320 --> 01:14:01,400
Speaker 4: that's what fifty six did, was was solved that issue.

1552
01:14:01,760 --> 01:14:05,240
Speaker 4: And when we passed passed that, it became we're usually late,

1553
01:14:05,320 --> 01:14:09,160
Speaker 4: wait ninety days, but eggs have involved money are instant,

1554
01:14:09,240 --> 01:14:12,120
Speaker 4: and it took them a couple of weeks to get

1555
01:14:12,120 --> 01:14:12,719
Speaker 4: that done.

1556
01:14:12,920 --> 01:14:15,320
Speaker 1: Okay, got that to it, But that wasn't the only problem.

1557
01:14:15,360 --> 01:14:17,559
Speaker 1: I guess there were some problems with the dispersement itself.

1558
01:14:18,760 --> 01:14:21,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, so they found out about a week or so

1559
01:14:22,080 --> 01:14:25,519
Speaker 4: ten days afterwards that you know, there's about fifty or

1560
01:14:26,800 --> 01:14:32,600
Speaker 4: one hundred different jurisdictions and seventeen jurisdictions received money and

1561
01:14:32,640 --> 01:14:34,240
Speaker 4: they didn't have a dispensary at all.

1562
01:14:35,840 --> 01:14:37,880
Speaker 1: Wait, what you don't have any you're not supposed to

1563
01:14:37,880 --> 01:14:41,200
Speaker 1: get money, like for example, in Mason Roland Mason said

1564
01:14:41,200 --> 01:14:43,679
Speaker 1: we don't want it. We don't want weed anywhere near people.

1565
01:14:44,160 --> 01:14:45,360
Speaker 1: So you go and you get your weed and you

1566
01:14:45,360 --> 01:14:47,200
Speaker 1: bring it back. They get no tax revenue because they

1567
01:14:47,560 --> 01:14:52,120
Speaker 1: weren't open to allowing dispensaries there. So you should get that,

1568
01:14:52,120 --> 01:14:53,880
Speaker 1: you should get that. So why would they get money

1569
01:14:54,000 --> 01:14:55,479
Speaker 1: if they didn't have dispensers.

1570
01:14:56,720 --> 01:15:01,879
Speaker 4: It was a mistake. You know, nothing goes right in government.

1571
01:15:02,000 --> 01:15:06,520
Speaker 4: And what happened is is that you know, in Columbus,

1572
01:15:06,760 --> 01:15:09,880
Speaker 4: the city of Worthington is a suburb, and they got

1573
01:15:09,880 --> 01:15:14,880
Speaker 4: a check because the address to the dispensary is Worthington,

1574
01:15:14,960 --> 01:15:16,920
Speaker 4: and they just assume it was Worthington, but it was

1575
01:15:16,960 --> 01:15:19,719
Speaker 4: actually in the city of Columbus at.

1576
01:15:19,520 --> 01:15:23,280
Speaker 1: The Columbus And so there's wonder going, where's our money?

1577
01:15:23,320 --> 01:15:24,840
Speaker 1: And they're going, wait, we got to check that we

1578
01:15:25,080 --> 01:15:28,920
Speaker 1: didn't do anything. This is pretty good. And I'll go, well,

1579
01:15:29,000 --> 01:15:31,000
Speaker 1: you know, there's some things we've got to iron and

1580
01:15:31,240 --> 01:15:31,639
Speaker 1: work out.

1581
01:15:31,640 --> 01:15:31,840
Speaker 6: Word.

1582
01:15:31,880 --> 01:15:35,360
Speaker 1: I don't know about that. You're talking about several hundred

1583
01:15:35,360 --> 01:15:38,040
Speaker 1: thousand dollars here. This isn't like, I don't know, five

1584
01:15:38,120 --> 01:15:41,559
Speaker 1: ten dollars class action settlement or something like that.

1585
01:15:42,040 --> 01:15:42,439
Speaker 8: Yeah.

1586
01:15:42,520 --> 01:15:46,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, there's a couple of interesting things in here. And

1587
01:15:46,360 --> 01:15:51,240
Speaker 4: I can't remember. There's a small city in the Edgewood

1588
01:15:51,400 --> 01:15:57,080
Speaker 4: School District called seven Mile, seven hundred and twelve people

1589
01:15:57,320 --> 01:16:01,200
Speaker 4: in the last census. Okay, they just cashed a check

1590
01:16:02,160 --> 01:16:05,200
Speaker 4: for over four hundred thousand dollars for seven hundred and

1591
01:16:05,240 --> 01:16:06,320
Speaker 4: twelve residents.

1592
01:16:07,160 --> 01:16:07,960
Speaker 3: That's incredible.

1593
01:16:08,640 --> 01:16:13,840
Speaker 4: That that is absolutely incredible. They early on had a

1594
01:16:13,840 --> 01:16:17,800
Speaker 4: medical dispensary that somebody came in and said, you know,

1595
01:16:17,840 --> 01:16:20,200
Speaker 4: we want this, And they were always looking for the

1596
01:16:20,240 --> 01:16:23,800
Speaker 4: tax revenue because right away they moved in and they

1597
01:16:24,000 --> 01:16:27,360
Speaker 4: slapped the fifty thousand dollars tax and all marijuana dispensaries,

1598
01:16:27,360 --> 01:16:32,799
Speaker 4: and the state government fixed that in the next budget.

1599
01:16:34,200 --> 01:16:36,080
Speaker 4: Look at the city of Toledo. I don't know what

1600
01:16:36,160 --> 01:16:40,559
Speaker 4: the revised was, but one hundred and fifty thousand dollars

1601
01:16:40,040 --> 01:16:44,400
Speaker 4: for a good sized city. Yeah, And to me, that

1602
01:16:44,479 --> 01:16:46,880
Speaker 4: proves the theory that I've had and others have had.

1603
01:16:47,560 --> 01:16:52,439
Speaker 4: Nobody buys weed in Toledo because four miles into Michigan,

1604
01:16:52,479 --> 01:16:57,760
Speaker 4: they're nineteen dispensaries in Monroe, Michigan that you can buy

1605
01:16:57,800 --> 01:17:01,040
Speaker 4: your marijuana for half or two thirds.

1606
01:17:00,400 --> 01:17:00,840
Speaker 3: No question.

1607
01:17:00,920 --> 01:17:02,920
Speaker 1: I lived in Toledo for a number You went to

1608
01:17:02,960 --> 01:17:05,759
Speaker 1: bowling Grain just outside Toledo, worked until they lived in Toledo.

1609
01:17:06,080 --> 01:17:09,240
Speaker 1: Had I had both our kids there and moved here

1610
01:17:09,240 --> 01:17:12,000
Speaker 1: when they were very, very young. But yeah, the last

1611
01:17:12,000 --> 01:17:14,920
Speaker 1: time I was up there over the summer. You drive

1612
01:17:14,960 --> 01:17:17,600
Speaker 1: anywhere in Toledo, there's billboards all over for the dispensaries

1613
01:17:17,600 --> 01:17:19,639
Speaker 1: in Michigan. And you go over the state line, which

1614
01:17:19,680 --> 01:17:22,320
Speaker 1: is right there up just past Luna Pier if you

1615
01:17:22,360 --> 01:17:26,200
Speaker 1: know where that is. And after that in Monroe, not Monroe, Ohio,

1616
01:17:26,280 --> 01:17:29,599
Speaker 1: but Mona, Michigan. You're just they're all over the place.

1617
01:17:29,800 --> 01:17:31,720
Speaker 1: It's cheap, it's available, you're in, you're out. It's not

1618
01:17:31,760 --> 01:17:35,280
Speaker 1: a problem whatsoever. Why would I pay that tax in

1619
01:17:35,880 --> 01:17:38,839
Speaker 1: Toledo if I could get it much cheaper in Michigan,

1620
01:17:38,880 --> 01:17:41,320
Speaker 1: and I arguably a better selection because of that.

1621
01:17:42,600 --> 01:17:47,880
Speaker 4: Yes, it's cheaper and the taxes left, and so I would.

1622
01:17:48,200 --> 01:17:50,280
Speaker 4: So maybe in a year year and a half, we

1623
01:17:50,360 --> 01:17:55,920
Speaker 4: can have to have a discussion about Cincinnati. Yeah, Cincinnati's

1624
01:17:55,960 --> 01:18:02,800
Speaker 4: number falsely elevated because people Entucky are coming over to Cincinnati.

1625
01:18:03,400 --> 01:18:07,000
Speaker 4: You know they Kentucky just started their program, you know,

1626
01:18:07,040 --> 01:18:10,439
Speaker 4: a couple of weeks ago, so you know they do that.

1627
01:18:10,560 --> 01:18:13,240
Speaker 4: We don't know, We'll have to look at those numbers

1628
01:18:13,240 --> 01:18:15,719
Speaker 4: in a year or two and say, you know that

1629
01:18:15,720 --> 01:18:18,800
Speaker 4: that is what they are more likely benefiting from it.

1630
01:18:19,080 --> 01:18:21,320
Speaker 1: It's a cost benefit for Cincinnati, and you go, Okay,

1631
01:18:21,320 --> 01:18:23,640
Speaker 1: how much cheaper would it be in Kentucky. We know

1632
01:18:23,680 --> 01:18:26,600
Speaker 1: it's cheaper for a liquor and cigarettes. People go to

1633
01:18:26,680 --> 01:18:28,880
Speaker 1: Kentucky all the time, party sorts, et cetera for that

1634
01:18:29,240 --> 01:18:31,800
Speaker 1: because it's cheaper. They'll save a few bucks. But if

1635
01:18:31,840 --> 01:18:35,559
Speaker 1: it's marginally cheaper, they probably won't. This is substantially like Michigan,

1636
01:18:35,840 --> 01:18:38,920
Speaker 1: different story entirely, and that explains it because Cincinnati were

1637
01:18:38,920 --> 01:18:39,639
Speaker 1: a border city.

1638
01:18:39,720 --> 01:18:41,160
Speaker 3: Toledo is a border city.

1639
01:18:41,280 --> 01:18:43,519
Speaker 1: You don't have that problem in Cleveland obviously, unless you

1640
01:18:43,560 --> 01:18:45,439
Speaker 1: can swim really well, and then this weather if you

1641
01:18:45,439 --> 01:18:48,439
Speaker 1: can skate really well. The outlier, though, The interesting part

1642
01:18:48,479 --> 01:18:50,840
Speaker 1: about that then is Columbus. Why does if that's the case,

1643
01:18:50,840 --> 01:18:53,360
Speaker 1: and why does Columbus lead in revenue with four point

1644
01:18:53,439 --> 01:18:55,559
Speaker 1: seven million? Is simply because the border is too far.

1645
01:18:55,439 --> 01:19:01,160
Speaker 4: Away, I think, because it seems to me that you know,

1646
01:19:01,200 --> 01:19:05,040
Speaker 4: you look at Cincinnati and there's four or five townships

1647
01:19:04,880 --> 01:19:09,479
Speaker 4: in smaller jurisdictions that allowed dispensaries. So I think if

1648
01:19:09,520 --> 01:19:12,720
Speaker 4: you looked at Hamilton County as a whole, and then

1649
01:19:12,800 --> 01:19:16,120
Speaker 4: look at Franklin County as a whole they're pretty they're

1650
01:19:16,200 --> 01:19:19,840
Speaker 4: they're pretty similar because I just didn't look like outer

1651
01:19:20,040 --> 01:19:25,920
Speaker 4: jurisdictions of Franklin County allowed the dispensaries. But I think

1652
01:19:25,920 --> 01:19:28,720
Speaker 4: they're kind of pretty equal in the same for Cuyahogay.

1653
01:19:29,320 --> 01:19:33,320
Speaker 4: Cleveland's is not that much, but the whole county is

1654
01:19:33,320 --> 01:19:35,000
Speaker 4: is is a good number if you look at it

1655
01:19:35,000 --> 01:19:35,280
Speaker 4: that way.

1656
01:19:35,600 --> 01:19:37,640
Speaker 1: Well, I look at some of these discratch man like,

1657
01:19:37,640 --> 01:19:42,120
Speaker 1: for example, Columbia Township here in Cincinnati is in the

1658
01:19:42,160 --> 01:19:45,040
Speaker 1: top I think in the top handful of cities. One

1659
01:19:45,080 --> 01:19:47,599
Speaker 1: point six million for Columbia Township. Look at that going.

1660
01:19:47,680 --> 01:19:48,879
Speaker 1: I can't figure that one out.

1661
01:19:49,960 --> 01:19:53,120
Speaker 4: No, you know, and I and I think that now

1662
01:19:53,160 --> 01:19:56,120
Speaker 4: when this, when this was came out and became published,

1663
01:19:56,720 --> 01:20:00,600
Speaker 4: how many other jurisdictions have buyer's remorse in this in

1664
01:20:00,640 --> 01:20:04,080
Speaker 4: the sense someplace like you know, you spoke about NASA

1665
01:20:04,160 --> 01:20:07,280
Speaker 4: they you know, there's there's a couple hundred jurisdictions in

1666
01:20:07,320 --> 01:20:09,040
Speaker 4: the state that put it more to arm sause we

1667
01:20:09,200 --> 01:20:12,519
Speaker 4: just don't want we don't want marijuana. And I look

1668
01:20:12,560 --> 01:20:16,040
Speaker 4: at the in my in Miami County. In Pickla, you

1669
01:20:16,160 --> 01:20:19,080
Speaker 4: decided to have two dispensaries. They got a little heat

1670
01:20:19,120 --> 01:20:23,800
Speaker 4: from some some some residents, but they reached for you know,

1671
01:20:23,960 --> 01:20:26,720
Speaker 4: a town of thirty thousand people got to check for

1672
01:20:26,800 --> 01:20:29,360
Speaker 4: over four hundred thousand. They're going to build, you know,

1673
01:20:29,840 --> 01:20:32,920
Speaker 4: they early on said we're going to build parks. We're

1674
01:20:32,920 --> 01:20:35,640
Speaker 4: going to have a recreation at our entertainment center. And

1675
01:20:35,720 --> 01:20:37,840
Speaker 4: that's what we're going to do with it. You don't

1676
01:20:37,840 --> 01:20:40,519
Speaker 4: how many calls to nine one one to those two

1677
01:20:40,520 --> 01:20:47,000
Speaker 4: dispensaries in twenty twenty five many zero the drug dealer

1678
01:20:47,120 --> 01:20:49,479
Speaker 4: just you know, the theory was, you know, the drug

1679
01:20:49,520 --> 01:20:51,760
Speaker 4: dealer is going to sit in the parking lot reread

1680
01:20:51,760 --> 01:20:53,880
Speaker 4: you buy weed and they're going to sell you a

1681
01:20:53,960 --> 01:20:57,080
Speaker 4: ventanyl and they're going to sell you. Yeah. I'm not

1682
01:20:57,080 --> 01:20:58,160
Speaker 4: saying it doesn't happen.

1683
01:20:58,800 --> 01:21:01,160
Speaker 3: It's happening, right, It happens anyway.

1684
01:21:02,240 --> 01:21:03,800
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1685
01:21:03,840 --> 01:21:06,960
Speaker 1: I think the problem has always been and the pearl

1686
01:21:06,960 --> 01:21:08,840
Speaker 1: clutters and the Luddites. I don't care what it is.

1687
01:21:09,760 --> 01:21:12,120
Speaker 1: It's always lagging. Indicate right, it's like the sky song,

1688
01:21:12,240 --> 01:21:14,120
Speaker 1: so the where the worst things are gonna happen, and

1689
01:21:14,960 --> 01:21:17,599
Speaker 1: ninety nine times out of one hundred, everything is fine.

1690
01:21:17,640 --> 01:21:19,320
Speaker 1: It's not the arm again. We saw that when it

1691
01:21:19,320 --> 01:21:21,800
Speaker 1: came to Casino gaming in Ohio years ago. Oh my god,

1692
01:21:21,840 --> 01:21:24,160
Speaker 1: you're gonna have prostitution and drugs and the cities are

1693
01:21:24,160 --> 01:21:26,439
Speaker 1: gonna it's gonna be hell in a handbasket. And of

1694
01:21:26,520 --> 01:21:28,920
Speaker 1: course all the religious types fought that and what happened

1695
01:21:29,040 --> 01:21:33,880
Speaker 1: was no, nothing really happened. And the revenue they brought

1696
01:21:33,880 --> 01:21:35,760
Speaker 1: in because people want to legally do that stuff has

1697
01:21:35,760 --> 01:21:37,840
Speaker 1: been great. Are there problems with that?

1698
01:21:37,960 --> 01:21:38,240
Speaker 3: Sure?

1699
01:21:38,280 --> 01:21:41,920
Speaker 1: But the idea that somehow it's armageddon and you know

1700
01:21:41,960 --> 01:21:45,280
Speaker 1: it's it's biblical in terms of the disaster, it's going

1701
01:21:45,320 --> 01:21:47,599
Speaker 1: to be it's never comes to fruition ever does. But again,

1702
01:21:48,360 --> 01:21:50,599
Speaker 1: the next thing comes down the pike, the same people,

1703
01:21:50,640 --> 01:21:52,599
Speaker 1: the Bible thumpers, will be out there screaming the same

1704
01:21:52,640 --> 01:21:55,800
Speaker 1: nonsense and they're always proven wrong. And yet there's no

1705
01:21:55,880 --> 01:21:57,640
Speaker 1: shortage of people who want to believe that kind of

1706
01:21:57,640 --> 01:22:01,320
Speaker 1: stuff in that context, Senator, and do you see these

1707
01:22:01,439 --> 01:22:03,880
Speaker 1: municipals look at them going, damn, you know, the sky

1708
01:22:03,960 --> 01:22:06,559
Speaker 1: isn't falling, the worst isn't happening. We could use a

1709
01:22:06,560 --> 01:22:09,360
Speaker 1: couple of million dollars, a couple hundred thousand dollars. Do

1710
01:22:09,400 --> 01:22:13,920
Speaker 1: you see more municipalities than jumping into the to the

1711
01:22:13,960 --> 01:22:14,880
Speaker 1: dispensary game.

1712
01:22:15,200 --> 01:22:17,599
Speaker 3: Because of that, I think we do.

1713
01:22:17,680 --> 01:22:22,200
Speaker 4: I mean, in Tenegralle fifty six, we're allowing up to

1714
01:22:22,280 --> 01:22:25,640
Speaker 4: four hundred dispensaries. We're probably at about one hundred and

1715
01:22:25,760 --> 01:22:28,320
Speaker 4: eighty right now, so there's you know, two hundred more

1716
01:22:28,360 --> 01:22:30,439
Speaker 4: to go out there if that's what the market wants.

1717
01:22:30,800 --> 01:22:33,120
Speaker 4: And I mean, I think that those people have to

1718
01:22:33,200 --> 01:22:36,439
Speaker 4: really take a serious look at that, and look, you

1719
01:22:37,120 --> 01:22:39,240
Speaker 4: can zone it the way you want it. I would

1720
01:22:39,240 --> 01:22:45,439
Speaker 4: not want a dispensary in historical downtown Tips City, Ohio,

1721
01:22:45,960 --> 01:22:48,400
Speaker 4: which you can put it out in the industrial park

1722
01:22:48,560 --> 01:22:53,439
Speaker 4: in this area where it might be hard to find,

1723
01:22:53,880 --> 01:22:57,360
Speaker 4: but it's not obvious in your historical area. So you

1724
01:22:57,400 --> 01:22:59,160
Speaker 4: can do what you want with zoning, and so it

1725
01:22:59,200 --> 01:23:02,120
Speaker 4: doesn't it doesn't have to be any place in towns

1726
01:23:02,400 --> 01:23:04,840
Speaker 4: where the city council wants it.

1727
01:23:05,080 --> 01:23:06,639
Speaker 3: I don't know, i'd push back. Do you have bars

1728
01:23:06,640 --> 01:23:08,960
Speaker 3: in the historical district? Amen?

1729
01:23:09,160 --> 01:23:11,040
Speaker 4: I agree, yeah, I mean I understand it.

1730
01:23:11,240 --> 01:23:13,120
Speaker 1: I guarantee you'd be the one with the longest line

1731
01:23:13,160 --> 01:23:15,280
Speaker 1: outside a lot of these historical districts. And you know,

1732
01:23:15,600 --> 01:23:18,120
Speaker 1: it's lovely small town Ohio for sure, but you know,

1733
01:23:18,160 --> 01:23:20,080
Speaker 1: when you see a lot of boarded up storefronts when

1734
01:23:20,120 --> 01:23:23,280
Speaker 1: you see you know, no businesses down there, a lack

1735
01:23:23,320 --> 01:23:25,200
Speaker 1: of businesses, and they're always looking for people to come in.

1736
01:23:25,240 --> 01:23:31,400
Speaker 1: And you see more antique stores and you know historical societies, uh,

1737
01:23:31,560 --> 01:23:33,880
Speaker 1: with with a block of you know, the way life

1738
01:23:33,960 --> 01:23:36,400
Speaker 1: used to be. That's not really bringing business in. That's

1739
01:23:36,439 --> 01:23:38,240
Speaker 1: not really bringing adding to your tax base.

1740
01:23:39,080 --> 01:23:39,160
Speaker 11: No.

1741
01:23:39,920 --> 01:23:42,240
Speaker 4: I guess my point is is it's up to the

1742
01:23:42,240 --> 01:23:45,400
Speaker 4: city council and they can decide if they decided to

1743
01:23:45,400 --> 01:23:47,280
Speaker 4: put it down there so that you know, that would

1744
01:23:47,680 --> 01:23:50,559
Speaker 4: advocate more businesses, that would be fine. But you know,

1745
01:23:50,720 --> 01:23:52,880
Speaker 4: a lot of stuff we did in fifty six and

1746
01:23:52,920 --> 01:23:57,280
Speaker 4: other things in marijuana to state level is allow local control. Uh.

1747
01:23:57,400 --> 01:23:59,960
Speaker 1: State Senator Steve Huffman. Let me pivot just to say

1748
01:24:00,280 --> 01:24:04,200
Speaker 1: because recently the well, another ballot initiative comes up because

1749
01:24:04,600 --> 01:24:06,680
Speaker 1: a lot of people, and rightly so, feel that the

1750
01:24:06,720 --> 01:24:09,080
Speaker 1: state of Ohio is not listening to voters. And we

1751
01:24:09,120 --> 01:24:11,320
Speaker 1: could go on and on and on about that. But

1752
01:24:11,600 --> 01:24:14,360
Speaker 1: the citizen led ballot initiative to repeal the new marijuana

1753
01:24:14,439 --> 01:24:17,080
Speaker 1: law has hit a snagger. So it's it's it's Ohioan's

1754
01:24:17,080 --> 01:24:19,439
Speaker 1: for cannabis choice. They've been around for a while. They

1755
01:24:19,439 --> 01:24:21,680
Speaker 1: want to repeal your bill, Senate Bill fifty six. It

1756
01:24:21,760 --> 01:24:25,559
Speaker 1: says it recriminalized use of cannabis. Dave Yosi AG has

1757
01:24:25,800 --> 01:24:30,439
Speaker 1: rejected their ballot petition summary because he was just reviewing

1758
01:24:30,479 --> 01:24:32,479
Speaker 1: it for truth, whether it's misleading or not. He said,

1759
01:24:33,080 --> 01:24:35,160
Speaker 1: there's some statements that are incorrect in there, so they'll

1760
01:24:35,160 --> 01:24:37,160
Speaker 1: have to go back and revisit that to bring it

1761
01:24:37,160 --> 01:24:37,559
Speaker 1: back to them.

1762
01:24:37,560 --> 01:24:38,000
Speaker 3: What do you make of it?

1763
01:24:39,400 --> 01:24:43,360
Speaker 4: Well, you know, that's that's their prerogative. It's it's a

1764
01:24:43,400 --> 01:24:47,960
Speaker 4: referendum to repeal parts of fifty six, and mainly it's

1765
01:24:48,000 --> 01:24:53,200
Speaker 4: about the beverages, but some smaller things on marijuana. So

1766
01:24:54,760 --> 01:24:57,840
Speaker 4: they revised it for a second time. It's back and

1767
01:24:58,520 --> 01:25:03,800
Speaker 4: ag Yost is office. He has till uh February third

1768
01:25:03,880 --> 01:25:08,720
Speaker 4: or five o'clock to make his judgment is it Is

1769
01:25:08,760 --> 01:25:13,679
Speaker 4: it truthful? And you know, we'll see what he has

1770
01:25:13,720 --> 01:25:17,599
Speaker 4: to say, and if he says it is, then they

1771
01:25:17,640 --> 01:25:19,920
Speaker 4: have about six weeks to get a quarter of a

1772
01:25:19,960 --> 01:25:23,160
Speaker 4: million valid signatures, which is a daunting task.

1773
01:25:23,240 --> 01:25:26,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, but again, I think about it, and I

1774
01:25:26,800 --> 01:25:30,959
Speaker 1: think of the breweries in and around Cincinnati and elsewhere.

1775
01:25:31,000 --> 01:25:34,040
Speaker 1: The you know, Adam Bakovich was on the show, the

1776
01:25:34,080 --> 01:25:37,040
Speaker 1: CEO of Ryan Geist, and I had the folks on

1777
01:25:37,120 --> 01:25:39,000
Speaker 1: from fifty West, and there's plenty of them that would

1778
01:25:39,040 --> 01:25:40,960
Speaker 1: lead that petition drive. You get enough bodies in there.

1779
01:25:40,960 --> 01:25:43,280
Speaker 1: The people sit at the bar and sign all damn

1780
01:25:43,360 --> 01:25:46,360
Speaker 1: day long because they feel like, you know, they've invested

1781
01:25:46,360 --> 01:25:49,679
Speaker 1: in this industry when it comes to THC and fused beverages,

1782
01:25:49,760 --> 01:25:51,680
Speaker 1: that they put millions into this thing and now the

1783
01:25:51,720 --> 01:25:54,360
Speaker 1: carpet is being literally pulled out from under them. A

1784
01:25:54,400 --> 01:25:56,519
Speaker 1: lot of people want it, a lot of people enjoy it.

1785
01:25:57,040 --> 01:26:00,400
Speaker 1: They see it as actually a better alternative to alcohol,

1786
01:26:00,479 --> 01:26:02,680
Speaker 1: which is again, as we mentioned, is fine. You can

1787
01:26:02,720 --> 01:26:05,120
Speaker 1: open a bar, but a dispensary is a different story.

1788
01:26:05,360 --> 01:26:07,280
Speaker 1: People use it for the first time or several times,

1789
01:26:07,280 --> 01:26:09,000
Speaker 1: they go, hey, wait a minute, I don't feel as

1790
01:26:09,040 --> 01:26:12,360
Speaker 1: bad drinking a THCH infused drink as they do after

1791
01:26:12,439 --> 01:26:15,600
Speaker 1: drinking alcohol. And as a physician tell me, what what,

1792
01:26:15,720 --> 01:26:16,439
Speaker 1: what's the difference?

1793
01:26:17,680 --> 01:26:21,880
Speaker 4: Well, there's some subtle differences, but you know that's what

1794
01:26:21,880 --> 01:26:23,800
Speaker 4: what if that's what people want, you know, that's what

1795
01:26:23,880 --> 01:26:27,559
Speaker 4: the Senate and the House put on the governor's desk,

1796
01:26:27,600 --> 01:26:31,599
Speaker 4: and it was his it was his decision to uh detO.

1797
01:26:31,960 --> 01:26:34,000
Speaker 4: That part is the beverage part of the bill. But

1798
01:26:34,439 --> 01:26:37,120
Speaker 4: you know, you look at the referendum. They would only

1799
01:26:37,160 --> 01:26:40,719
Speaker 4: get a reprieve for about six months because the federal

1800
01:26:40,800 --> 01:26:44,760
Speaker 4: law is going to kick in, so it would stay

1801
01:26:44,880 --> 01:26:48,200
Speaker 4: till the November election he had went up or down,

1802
01:26:48,880 --> 01:26:52,519
Speaker 4: and then I can't remember. By December first the federal

1803
01:26:52,560 --> 01:26:55,559
Speaker 4: law kicks in. It would all be illegal anyway. So

1804
01:26:55,960 --> 01:26:58,360
Speaker 4: it's hard to invest a lot of money in something

1805
01:26:58,400 --> 01:27:01,240
Speaker 4: you're only going to get six months. But you know,

1806
01:27:01,439 --> 01:27:02,719
Speaker 4: maybe they'll make that decision.

1807
01:27:02,880 --> 01:27:03,599
Speaker 3: Well, we're hoping.

1808
01:27:03,640 --> 01:27:05,799
Speaker 1: I think that the federal government comes to their senses

1809
01:27:05,960 --> 01:27:08,760
Speaker 1: and changes as well, which is a distinct possibility because

1810
01:27:08,760 --> 01:27:11,720
Speaker 1: they look at the business element of this thing, and

1811
01:27:11,720 --> 01:27:13,240
Speaker 1: they look at how much money is to begin, and

1812
01:27:13,439 --> 01:27:15,600
Speaker 1: also public demand and hearing from constituents.

1813
01:27:15,640 --> 01:27:16,920
Speaker 3: I'm sure that'll weigh on them.

1814
01:27:17,600 --> 01:27:20,400
Speaker 4: No, No, I agree, and I also agree with you.

1815
01:27:20,439 --> 01:27:23,160
Speaker 4: I think that the federal government in some way is

1816
01:27:23,240 --> 01:27:26,280
Speaker 4: going to put some I hope they put some parameters

1817
01:27:26,320 --> 01:27:29,320
Speaker 4: on it and then say let the states make the

1818
01:27:29,360 --> 01:27:33,360
Speaker 4: final details. You know, maybe Colorado said we can do it.

1819
01:27:33,400 --> 01:27:36,160
Speaker 4: You know, everything at a high level, and Utah is

1820
01:27:36,200 --> 01:27:38,200
Speaker 4: going to say, you know, we don't want that, but

1821
01:27:38,640 --> 01:27:41,400
Speaker 4: we'll see what Ohio says. But I hope the federal

1822
01:27:41,439 --> 01:27:45,040
Speaker 4: government does come to their senses and does something by

1823
01:27:45,120 --> 01:27:45,760
Speaker 4: that day.

1824
01:27:46,000 --> 01:27:49,120
Speaker 1: Seems to me, the initial push by those who wanted

1825
01:27:49,200 --> 01:27:51,680
Speaker 1: recreational marijuana and Ohio, which I totally agree with, is

1826
01:27:51,720 --> 01:27:55,040
Speaker 1: just to simply treat this exactly like alcohol. You know,

1827
01:27:55,120 --> 01:27:58,519
Speaker 1: from a chemical pharmological perspective, it's a little bit different,

1828
01:27:58,600 --> 01:28:00,479
Speaker 1: but it's the same. You're drinking something that makes you

1829
01:28:00,520 --> 01:28:03,599
Speaker 1: feel good, and if the THH and FUSE drinks make

1830
01:28:03,640 --> 01:28:05,400
Speaker 1: you feel better than the alcohol ones, you should add

1831
01:28:05,400 --> 01:28:08,040
Speaker 1: that choice. As a grown adult, we don't see the

1832
01:28:08,080 --> 01:28:11,759
Speaker 1: long term dangers of drinking THC or using TG products

1833
01:28:11,800 --> 01:28:15,320
Speaker 1: is maybe different, but about the same as alcohol, because

1834
01:28:15,360 --> 01:28:19,160
Speaker 1: both have their distinct disadvantages to them, but by and large,

1835
01:28:19,560 --> 01:28:21,080
Speaker 1: it's a product that's not going to kill you in

1836
01:28:21,120 --> 01:28:23,840
Speaker 1: short order unless you abuse it like anything else. Seems

1837
01:28:23,880 --> 01:28:25,800
Speaker 1: to me, the easiest thing to do is just treat

1838
01:28:25,800 --> 01:28:28,280
Speaker 1: THHC and FUSE beverages like alcohol and move on.

1839
01:28:31,439 --> 01:28:33,479
Speaker 4: I don't disagree with you, and that's what the General

1840
01:28:33,520 --> 01:28:39,200
Speaker 4: Assembly thoughts, and you know, we'll we'll see what the referendumair.

1841
01:28:38,400 --> 01:28:41,760
Speaker 1: Enough he is Ohio State Senator Steve Huffman from up

1842
01:28:41,760 --> 01:28:44,760
Speaker 1: in Tipsity, just the tipsy. Thanks again, Senator, all the best,

1843
01:28:44,760 --> 01:28:47,200
Speaker 1: Thanks for jumping in the show and explaining things. And

1844
01:28:47,280 --> 01:28:49,720
Speaker 1: it's it's good to see tax revenue coming in from

1845
01:28:49,760 --> 01:28:51,800
Speaker 1: the sale of marijuana. I hate to say I told

1846
01:28:51,840 --> 01:28:53,519
Speaker 1: them so, but we told them so for the last

1847
01:28:53,520 --> 01:28:56,559
Speaker 1: twenty years. That's that's a lot of money that could

1848
01:28:56,640 --> 01:28:59,599
Speaker 1: change lives and help communities, especially during these difficult times.

1849
01:28:59,600 --> 01:29:01,840
Speaker 3: All the best, you take care.

1850
01:29:01,920 --> 01:29:04,800
Speaker 4: One more thing. Sure it's a billion dollar industry in

1851
01:29:04,880 --> 01:29:08,000
Speaker 4: twenty five and that's a billion dollars not into the

1852
01:29:08,040 --> 01:29:08,880
Speaker 4: hands of drug dealer.

1853
01:29:08,960 --> 01:29:11,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's true, exactly, exactly. All right, Well, you may

1854
01:29:11,680 --> 01:29:17,240
Speaker 1: make a case later for legalizing other things, probably not

1855
01:29:17,439 --> 01:29:19,200
Speaker 1: to look how hard it was to get marijuana. But

1856
01:29:19,960 --> 01:29:22,160
Speaker 1: you know, to each his own, I suppose Scott's Loan

1857
01:29:22,200 --> 01:29:45,160
Speaker 1: show seven hundred WWT girl starts of all sorts this morning,

1858
01:29:45,160 --> 01:29:50,599
Speaker 1: Sarah least social media times sports equals Sarah, Yeah.

1859
01:29:50,560 --> 01:29:53,479
Speaker 12: Sarah, Elise, One too eight is the social Do you

1860
01:29:53,520 --> 01:29:55,320
Speaker 12: know what one too eight stands for?

1861
01:29:58,800 --> 01:30:01,600
Speaker 9: Your birthday?

1862
01:30:03,360 --> 01:30:03,559
Speaker 1: Ding?

1863
01:30:03,640 --> 01:30:04,160
Speaker 3: Ding ding?

1864
01:30:04,280 --> 01:30:07,479
Speaker 12: Even in your old age, you are still wise my

1865
01:30:07,600 --> 01:30:10,280
Speaker 12: old age. I don't want to talk about it. I'm

1866
01:30:10,320 --> 01:30:13,720
Speaker 12: not there yet. I've got one or two or three.

1867
01:30:13,840 --> 01:30:16,080
Speaker 12: It's like twenty nine plus tax is where I'm at

1868
01:30:16,120 --> 01:30:18,080
Speaker 12: right now. We're not we're not quite at the big

1869
01:30:18,200 --> 01:30:21,559
Speaker 12: four zero. But today is the birthday.

1870
01:30:21,560 --> 01:30:22,240
Speaker 9: Thank you so much.

1871
01:30:22,320 --> 01:30:24,920
Speaker 3: Great day. We brought food in for you from Gonor's house.

1872
01:30:24,960 --> 01:30:29,439
Speaker 1: Oh how nice, delicious, A nice short red little basil

1873
01:30:29,520 --> 01:30:32,760
Speaker 1: pesto butterto.

1874
01:30:33,200 --> 01:30:34,120
Speaker 3: That's delicious. Yeah.

1875
01:30:34,160 --> 01:30:36,800
Speaker 12: We can eat more of that on the seventeenth for

1876
01:30:36,920 --> 01:30:38,639
Speaker 12: Fat Tuesday, for the big events.

1877
01:30:38,720 --> 01:30:40,599
Speaker 3: Yeah, we had a martograph folks in earlier this morning.

1878
01:30:40,600 --> 01:30:41,880
Speaker 3: You'll be there. I will be.

1879
01:30:43,439 --> 01:30:45,120
Speaker 9: Yeah, I will MC. I have a new one this

1880
01:30:45,200 --> 01:30:46,280
Speaker 9: year with Tom Brenneman.

1881
01:30:47,040 --> 01:30:48,080
Speaker 3: I know about that.

1882
01:30:48,760 --> 01:30:50,439
Speaker 12: He's in for a good time. I told him to

1883
01:30:50,479 --> 01:30:53,600
Speaker 12: take the next day off. What are you taking the

1884
01:30:53,680 --> 01:30:54,240
Speaker 12: day off.

1885
01:30:55,880 --> 01:30:58,040
Speaker 9: Week? That's week?

1886
01:30:58,160 --> 01:30:58,960
Speaker 3: What do you mean it's week?

1887
01:30:59,160 --> 01:31:00,840
Speaker 9: You should take it off. Then we can all go

1888
01:31:00,880 --> 01:31:01,400
Speaker 9: out together.

1889
01:31:01,600 --> 01:31:01,840
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1890
01:31:02,479 --> 01:31:04,439
Speaker 9: I took the Spirit Day. I'm like, no, we're going

1891
01:31:04,479 --> 01:31:05,479
Speaker 9: balls with the wall, sir.

1892
01:31:06,120 --> 01:31:08,360
Speaker 12: I used the Spirit Day for this one because I

1893
01:31:08,439 --> 01:31:11,280
Speaker 12: learned my lesson last year. I'm like, look, I'm here

1894
01:31:11,320 --> 01:31:13,160
Speaker 12: to party and have a good time, Yes, you are.

1895
01:31:13,960 --> 01:31:15,479
Speaker 12: I wake up way too early.

1896
01:31:16,360 --> 01:31:19,080
Speaker 1: I'm like, we got to take this chair, sleep until

1897
01:31:19,160 --> 01:31:20,880
Speaker 1: six o'clock. You, on the other hand, we're going to.

1898
01:31:20,880 --> 01:31:22,519
Speaker 12: Go out with Tom and I. I'm going to talk

1899
01:31:22,520 --> 01:31:24,320
Speaker 12: to you and Tom taking the day off, I think so.

1900
01:31:24,479 --> 01:31:25,680
Speaker 12: I think I talked him into it.

1901
01:31:26,120 --> 01:31:26,599
Speaker 3: I'll ask him.

1902
01:31:26,680 --> 01:31:28,599
Speaker 12: Yeah, So if you hear Steve the next day, or

1903
01:31:28,680 --> 01:31:30,840
Speaker 12: maybe Mike McConnell will come back out of retirement like

1904
01:31:30,880 --> 01:31:31,640
Speaker 12: our friend.

1905
01:31:31,360 --> 01:31:33,240
Speaker 3: Mark, You'll be there, Michae'll be there.

1906
01:31:34,000 --> 01:31:34,559
Speaker 9: Did you see that?

1907
01:31:34,600 --> 01:31:34,840
Speaker 12: Mark?

1908
01:31:34,880 --> 01:31:35,800
Speaker 9: And sales is back?

1909
01:31:36,280 --> 01:31:36,360
Speaker 6: Like?

1910
01:31:36,400 --> 01:31:37,479
Speaker 9: What the hell is going on around?

1911
01:31:37,520 --> 01:31:40,320
Speaker 1: Whenever leaves here? No only people to get that leave

1912
01:31:40,360 --> 01:31:42,080
Speaker 1: and darn't invited back. Our people in this side of

1913
01:31:42,080 --> 01:31:44,439
Speaker 1: the microphone. Everybody else come on back, or.

1914
01:31:44,439 --> 01:31:45,920
Speaker 9: If they can't get in because of the snow.

1915
01:31:46,120 --> 01:31:48,080
Speaker 1: Let's talk a little sports this morning here by the way,

1916
01:31:48,160 --> 01:31:50,400
Speaker 1: Marti graph for homeless kids on the seventeen. Sarah'll be there,

1917
01:31:50,400 --> 01:31:54,519
Speaker 1: I'm the king, Sheila Gray, John John and Tom Brenneman. Yeah,

1918
01:31:54,560 --> 01:31:57,240
Speaker 1: we're already party for a kid's chair. So anyway, Martin

1919
01:31:57,280 --> 01:31:59,559
Speaker 1: Grat twenty twenty six needs to sell some tickets here.

1920
01:31:59,600 --> 01:32:01,559
Speaker 1: It's a good mean for Valentine's If you're looking for something,

1921
01:32:01,600 --> 01:32:02,200
Speaker 1: it is awesome.

1922
01:32:02,360 --> 01:32:05,280
Speaker 12: It really is. The Joe Burrow Foundation. There are a

1923
01:32:05,320 --> 01:32:07,360
Speaker 12: big one on board this year, so it'll be it'll

1924
01:32:07,400 --> 01:32:07,719
Speaker 12: be great.

1925
01:32:07,800 --> 01:32:08,800
Speaker 9: Love it uh in.

1926
01:32:08,840 --> 01:32:13,080
Speaker 1: Big News Happy Birthday, by the way, thank you Big News.

1927
01:32:13,120 --> 01:32:13,559
Speaker 3: Miami.

1928
01:32:15,000 --> 01:32:19,080
Speaker 12: We're opening up again with the Miami RedHawks. We have

1929
01:32:19,280 --> 01:32:22,960
Speaker 12: we have nothing to day undefeated. This is something huge though.

1930
01:32:23,040 --> 01:32:25,439
Speaker 12: Had a huge crowd last night over like ninety two

1931
01:32:25,520 --> 01:32:26,599
Speaker 12: hundred kids showed up.

1932
01:32:27,120 --> 01:32:30,519
Speaker 9: Next Saturday. This upcoming Saturday's game sold out.

1933
01:32:30,800 --> 01:32:31,160
Speaker 3: Love It.

1934
01:32:31,280 --> 01:32:34,000
Speaker 9: I will be there in attendance. Tony Pike I believe

1935
01:32:34,160 --> 01:32:34,639
Speaker 9: is coming.

1936
01:32:34,920 --> 01:32:37,719
Speaker 12: Okay, so they're guaranteed the Bearcats to the red Ox.

1937
01:32:37,760 --> 01:32:40,400
Speaker 3: I can you imagine you and Pike Pike shows up.

1938
01:32:40,680 --> 01:32:46,200
Speaker 3: That's an l I am kind of worried Pike is lose.

1939
01:32:46,240 --> 01:32:49,479
Speaker 1: In front of us of Death and Sports on this morning,

1940
01:32:49,520 --> 01:32:52,000
Speaker 1: they had a little segment on can Miam of Ohio

1941
01:32:52,240 --> 01:32:53,320
Speaker 1: win the national title?

1942
01:32:53,520 --> 01:32:56,320
Speaker 3: No, I don't know that's that's a big ask. But

1943
01:32:56,680 --> 01:32:57,400
Speaker 3: it's pretty cool.

1944
01:32:57,320 --> 01:33:00,559
Speaker 12: To see Miami on It is being talked about nationally

1945
01:33:00,600 --> 01:33:04,960
Speaker 12: because the only other team that's undefeated right now is Arizona.

1946
01:33:05,320 --> 01:33:06,960
Speaker 9: So I believe they're twenty two and oh.

1947
01:33:06,920 --> 01:33:09,000
Speaker 12: Or twenty one to know like Miami coach again, I

1948
01:33:09,000 --> 01:33:10,200
Speaker 12: forget Travis Steele.

1949
01:33:10,600 --> 01:33:11,960
Speaker 3: I know where do I know that name from?

1950
01:33:12,280 --> 01:33:15,040
Speaker 9: Maybe from another team here in Cincinnati.

1951
01:33:14,520 --> 01:33:15,599
Speaker 3: And how that other team doing?

1952
01:33:16,000 --> 01:33:19,360
Speaker 12: You know what no one's doing as well as what

1953
01:33:19,400 --> 01:33:21,960
Speaker 12: the Miami RedHawks are doing right now in college basketball.

1954
01:33:22,000 --> 01:33:23,639
Speaker 12: But yeah, it is really cool to see my alma

1955
01:33:23,680 --> 01:33:28,200
Speaker 12: mater being praised on the national airwaves. And Travis Steele

1956
01:33:28,280 --> 01:33:30,640
Speaker 12: was on with Willie yesterday and he said, look, my

1957
01:33:30,720 --> 01:33:33,240
Speaker 12: family and I are really happy here in southwest Ohio.

1958
01:33:33,280 --> 01:33:34,519
Speaker 9: You do not have to worry.

1959
01:33:34,280 --> 01:33:37,439
Speaker 12: About us going anywhere. That's what he said to our

1960
01:33:37,479 --> 01:33:38,599
Speaker 12: friend Billy Cunningham.

1961
01:33:39,320 --> 01:33:41,000
Speaker 1: Spend in big programs and stuff, and it's like there's

1962
01:33:41,000 --> 01:33:44,040
Speaker 1: something to be said about being a little a big

1963
01:33:44,080 --> 01:33:45,439
Speaker 1: fish in a little ponds.

1964
01:33:45,520 --> 01:33:49,400
Speaker 12: Yeah, little Oxford Mac looking forward to being there this weekend.

1965
01:33:49,439 --> 01:33:50,479
Speaker 9: It's been a long time.

1966
01:33:51,000 --> 01:33:54,719
Speaker 3: I'm a Mac guy. My wife's a Mac guy. Maction, maction.

1967
01:33:54,960 --> 01:33:57,240
Speaker 9: I forgot your bgsu, aren't you g I.

1968
01:33:57,160 --> 01:33:59,639
Speaker 1: Did the sidelines in Toledo for a few years and

1969
01:34:00,439 --> 01:34:02,679
Speaker 1: I'm a MACA. You support the Mac love the Mac.

1970
01:34:03,720 --> 01:34:03,840
Speaker 11: Uh.

1971
01:34:04,040 --> 01:34:08,000
Speaker 12: Something aside from college basketball if you were worried, if

1972
01:34:08,000 --> 01:34:11,559
Speaker 12: you were one of those fans that were worried about

1973
01:34:11,640 --> 01:34:14,920
Speaker 12: Joe Burrow leaving, did you.

1974
01:34:14,880 --> 01:34:16,520
Speaker 9: Think he was going to leave Cincinnati?

1975
01:34:17,520 --> 01:34:19,920
Speaker 12: There were too many people on social media that were

1976
01:34:19,920 --> 01:34:24,719
Speaker 12: getting that rumor started. People on social media was trending,

1977
01:34:25,080 --> 01:34:25,719
Speaker 12: what was trending?

1978
01:34:26,520 --> 01:34:29,400
Speaker 1: Social killed Dave Lapham, for God's sake. So it doesn't right,

1979
01:34:29,479 --> 01:34:32,160
Speaker 1: I mean, just social media stupid. Yeah, lap is alive,

1980
01:34:32,200 --> 01:34:34,280
Speaker 1: and well, you're on social media a lot, and when

1981
01:34:34,320 --> 01:34:39,240
Speaker 1: it's it's really stupid. I've had to log off quite

1982
01:34:39,280 --> 01:34:40,880
Speaker 1: a few times lately. So I'm like, people are just

1983
01:34:40,920 --> 01:34:42,960
Speaker 1: too too angry.

1984
01:34:43,200 --> 01:34:47,120
Speaker 12: Well, Chase Brown is coming to Joe's defense and he goes, look,

1985
01:34:47,240 --> 01:34:50,040
Speaker 12: chill out. He's talking to CBS Sports. He goes, Joe's

1986
01:34:50,040 --> 01:34:52,559
Speaker 12: not going anywhere. I think that was totally blown out

1987
01:34:52,560 --> 01:34:55,280
Speaker 12: of proportion, and Chase went on to say it was

1988
01:34:55,280 --> 01:34:57,120
Speaker 12: definitely a good talking point for people.

1989
01:34:57,160 --> 01:34:59,200
Speaker 9: Gave the media something to talk about.

1990
01:34:59,439 --> 01:35:02,880
Speaker 12: The media, the media and the people of social media

1991
01:35:03,000 --> 01:35:05,519
Speaker 12: spreading that.

1992
01:35:06,240 --> 01:35:11,280
Speaker 9: Damn media a bunch of idiots. He's not going anywhere.

1993
01:35:11,320 --> 01:35:14,800
Speaker 12: Okay, Joe Burrow is still Oi.

1994
01:35:14,960 --> 01:35:17,240
Speaker 3: Shara's got a hydrate for this segment is how old

1995
01:35:17,240 --> 01:35:17,799
Speaker 3: this business.

1996
01:35:17,800 --> 01:35:18,559
Speaker 9: I just had to.

1997
01:35:18,520 --> 01:35:22,719
Speaker 12: Dig a sip, like I'm getting dehydrated sitting in here.

1998
01:35:24,800 --> 01:35:26,840
Speaker 3: Hard work. I gotta give you credit.

1999
01:35:26,920 --> 01:35:29,160
Speaker 12: Oh my yeah, what because I made it into work

2000
01:35:29,200 --> 01:35:31,920
Speaker 12: and some people didn't because of the quote unquote hundred percent.

2001
01:35:31,960 --> 01:35:33,880
Speaker 1: I said, here's the commitment Sarah has. She shows up

2002
01:35:33,920 --> 01:35:35,559
Speaker 1: to do the morning show it's a'm on Godly Hour

2003
01:35:35,600 --> 01:35:37,679
Speaker 1: and EBN and then comes in to do this segment

2004
01:35:37,920 --> 01:35:40,559
Speaker 1: right before noon. She's been here for seven eight hours

2005
01:35:40,560 --> 01:35:42,920
Speaker 1: at least, been a long day taking it from from

2006
01:35:42,960 --> 01:35:46,120
Speaker 1: the hills of Kentucky. Seg Dennison, is m I a

2007
01:35:46,280 --> 01:35:47,840
Speaker 1: for three straight days now?

2008
01:35:48,960 --> 01:35:51,479
Speaker 12: Tom Brenneman said, it's the ice. I guess the ice

2009
01:35:51,640 --> 01:35:53,639
Speaker 12: ice really bad and down.

2010
01:35:53,720 --> 01:35:55,479
Speaker 1: Why would it be Why would the ice be bad

2011
01:35:55,479 --> 01:35:56,360
Speaker 1: in Middleton nowhere else?

2012
01:35:56,439 --> 01:35:59,240
Speaker 12: It's not like it's not a part of this universe.

2013
01:35:59,280 --> 01:36:01,040
Speaker 12: I mean, I don't get it.

2014
01:36:01,080 --> 01:36:01,479
Speaker 4: I don't know.

2015
01:36:01,640 --> 01:36:02,280
Speaker 3: I don't either.

2016
01:36:03,000 --> 01:36:05,280
Speaker 1: I could mind boggle. Monday, all right, if you can

2017
01:36:05,320 --> 01:36:06,680
Speaker 1: do your job from home, do you job from home.

2018
01:36:06,840 --> 01:36:08,639
Speaker 9: And that's what Christopher and I did on Monday.

2019
01:36:08,800 --> 01:36:10,679
Speaker 3: But yesterday was like, okay, well they got the roads.

2020
01:36:10,880 --> 01:36:12,519
Speaker 3: I drove it on fine. Today it's like the roads

2021
01:36:12,520 --> 01:36:13,280
Speaker 3: are completely dry.

2022
01:36:13,360 --> 01:36:16,120
Speaker 9: Yeah, the snow is nowhere near on the streets.

2023
01:36:16,200 --> 01:36:19,519
Speaker 1: It's just gonna I guarantee you he will be back Thursday.

2024
01:36:19,800 --> 01:36:20,840
Speaker 9: The roost is in tomorrow.

2025
01:36:20,920 --> 01:36:22,880
Speaker 3: His Chicken's coming out. I think it's a safe bet

2026
01:36:23,000 --> 01:36:27,439
Speaker 3: he'll be back tomorrow. Also, Joe Brow, how afraid are you?

2027
01:36:27,840 --> 01:36:29,160
Speaker 1: I don't know if I want to drive if he's

2028
01:36:29,200 --> 01:36:30,479
Speaker 1: on the road the same time, because if you're that

2029
01:36:30,560 --> 01:36:32,479
Speaker 1: scared of driving, you shouldn't be driving.

2030
01:36:32,520 --> 01:36:35,160
Speaker 12: You know, he's going five and a sixty five. It's

2031
01:36:35,360 --> 01:36:36,360
Speaker 12: best to stay home.

2032
01:36:36,439 --> 01:36:38,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's got it. He'll drive in tomorrow, but he'll

2033
01:36:38,320 --> 01:36:40,760
Speaker 1: have his hazards on. He'll be in the left lane

2034
01:36:40,800 --> 01:36:41,640
Speaker 1: doing four.

2035
01:36:41,600 --> 01:36:43,400
Speaker 9: With an ambulance to his side.

2036
01:36:44,280 --> 01:36:44,439
Speaker 4: Uh.

2037
01:36:44,720 --> 01:36:48,040
Speaker 12: Still trending on social media Joe Burrow because a buddy

2038
01:36:48,080 --> 01:36:50,200
Speaker 12: of his took a photo of photo and a video

2039
01:36:50,240 --> 01:36:53,559
Speaker 12: of him playing the piano somewhere very tropical. So people

2040
01:36:53,560 --> 01:36:56,360
Speaker 12: are losing their minds over Joe Burrow playing the piano.

2041
01:36:58,040 --> 01:37:00,080
Speaker 9: Can check it out social It takes a lot.

2042
01:37:01,080 --> 01:37:02,760
Speaker 1: Right, he gets up in belches and it's like, oh

2043
01:37:02,800 --> 01:37:04,080
Speaker 1: my god, it's the greatest bel jubber.

2044
01:37:04,200 --> 01:37:04,920
Speaker 9: It's so hot.

2045
01:37:05,400 --> 01:37:09,360
Speaker 3: Goo lord it's Joe Burier exhausting if you're Joe in

2046
01:37:09,360 --> 01:37:09,799
Speaker 3: that regard.

2047
01:37:09,920 --> 01:37:12,280
Speaker 12: That's why he leaves, and that's why people thinking that

2048
01:37:12,320 --> 01:37:15,080
Speaker 12: he's going to leave Cincinnati than he's like, you guys

2049
01:37:15,120 --> 01:37:16,240
Speaker 12: are crazy here.

2050
01:37:16,160 --> 01:37:16,840
Speaker 9: What the heck's time?

2051
01:37:17,200 --> 01:37:17,559
Speaker 3: That's true.

2052
01:37:17,560 --> 01:37:19,280
Speaker 1: It's all on social doesn't matter what goes when he

2053
01:37:19,320 --> 01:37:20,599
Speaker 1: puts stuff up there. That's what happened.

2054
01:37:20,640 --> 01:37:22,400
Speaker 9: He tries to be as private as he can.

2055
01:37:22,520 --> 01:37:23,720
Speaker 3: He should be, Yes, I get it.

2056
01:37:23,680 --> 01:37:25,880
Speaker 12: But yeah, some photos leaked of him with his family

2057
01:37:25,920 --> 01:37:28,840
Speaker 12: on vacation and now he's playing the piano somewhere with

2058
01:37:28,880 --> 01:37:32,760
Speaker 12: his buddies. But someone else who's trending, not exactly Cincinnati,

2059
01:37:32,800 --> 01:37:33,920
Speaker 12: but Bill Belichick.

2060
01:37:34,000 --> 01:37:36,760
Speaker 9: I know, we talk about him a lot on the airwaves.

2061
01:37:36,760 --> 01:37:40,439
Speaker 12: Berserk it is Berserki. So he's not going to be

2062
01:37:40,520 --> 01:37:42,720
Speaker 12: a first ballot Hall of Famer. Of course, this is

2063
01:37:42,760 --> 01:37:46,360
Speaker 12: according to Adam Schefter, who got that info out. Fell

2064
01:37:46,400 --> 01:37:48,679
Speaker 12: short of the forty out of fifty votes for induction

2065
01:37:48,720 --> 01:37:50,080
Speaker 12: into the Pro Football Hall of Fame.

2066
01:37:50,600 --> 01:37:51,360
Speaker 9: What do you gotta do?

2067
01:37:51,400 --> 01:37:53,880
Speaker 1: You got fifty votes and you only need forty. Yeah,

2068
01:37:54,600 --> 01:37:56,320
Speaker 1: I mean that's pretty much a slamdunk, getn't it? Who

2069
01:37:56,360 --> 01:37:57,439
Speaker 1: are the ten idiots, it said.

2070
01:37:57,520 --> 01:37:59,719
Speaker 9: Nah, I don't get it. What's going through their heads?

2071
01:38:00,840 --> 01:38:01,400
Speaker 3: By Gates?

2072
01:38:01,439 --> 01:38:03,760
Speaker 1: Okay, great, there's two Controversi's great in the conference, but

2073
01:38:04,439 --> 01:38:06,880
Speaker 1: finding someone who isn't trying to you know, she's cutting

2074
01:38:06,920 --> 01:38:07,479
Speaker 1: quardies of winning.

2075
01:38:07,520 --> 01:38:10,320
Speaker 3: He's winning super Bowls. Mkay. If he was cheating that much,

2076
01:38:10,479 --> 01:38:11,599
Speaker 3: he would be kicked out of league.

2077
01:38:11,640 --> 01:38:13,519
Speaker 12: Oh yeah, absolutely. Do you think he'll come back to

2078
01:38:13,560 --> 01:38:15,000
Speaker 12: the NFL get out of college?

2079
01:38:16,040 --> 01:38:17,160
Speaker 9: It's not really working.

2080
01:38:16,920 --> 01:38:19,479
Speaker 1: On it's not I think I think your window bust.

2081
01:38:19,640 --> 01:38:21,120
Speaker 1: I think a lot of things come. It's not just

2082
01:38:21,160 --> 01:38:22,960
Speaker 1: the coach, but it's also the you know, you've got

2083
01:38:23,000 --> 01:38:25,800
Speaker 1: Tom Brady, You've got all these other elements and New England.

2084
01:38:25,800 --> 01:38:29,400
Speaker 3: There's no question about it. I just is it the.

2085
01:38:29,320 --> 01:38:33,200
Speaker 1: Baseball writers that that were voting because they're an angry

2086
01:38:33,200 --> 01:38:33,679
Speaker 1: bunch too.

2087
01:38:33,800 --> 01:38:36,800
Speaker 9: Absolutely they are. There's always drama with them.

2088
01:38:36,880 --> 01:38:38,720
Speaker 1: So I guess that Tom Brady isn't going to get

2089
01:38:38,720 --> 01:38:40,759
Speaker 1: this in the Hall of Fame. He'll be a shoe

2090
01:38:40,840 --> 01:38:45,679
Speaker 1: in not using this logic. No, I don't think so. Also,

2091
01:38:45,800 --> 01:38:50,040
Speaker 1: I like Tom Brady in the booth. I've really enjoyed

2092
01:38:50,040 --> 01:38:50,800
Speaker 1: his commentary.

2093
01:38:50,880 --> 01:38:53,400
Speaker 12: This Season's better than he's been Yeah, he really did

2094
01:38:53,400 --> 01:38:54,000
Speaker 12: a great job.

2095
01:38:54,000 --> 01:38:55,439
Speaker 3: It's better he's getting back.

2096
01:38:55,479 --> 01:38:57,880
Speaker 12: I like his analysis, and I think he's entertaining and

2097
01:38:57,920 --> 01:38:59,759
Speaker 12: he's well spoken and whatever.

2098
01:38:59,840 --> 01:39:00,360
Speaker 9: I like him.

2099
01:39:00,360 --> 01:39:02,080
Speaker 3: I wish he was doing the Super Bowl better than

2100
01:39:02,120 --> 01:39:02,639
Speaker 3: Tony Romo?

2101
01:39:02,840 --> 01:39:05,599
Speaker 9: Yes, do you like him better than Worlds better?

2102
01:39:05,640 --> 01:39:05,840
Speaker 4: I know?

2103
01:39:05,880 --> 01:39:07,880
Speaker 12: My husband asked me the same thing. He's like, well,

2104
01:39:07,880 --> 01:39:11,799
Speaker 12: why him over Tony Romo? He's just easier to listen to.

2105
01:39:11,800 --> 01:39:12,639
Speaker 12: Tony's a dork.

2106
01:39:12,800 --> 01:39:15,600
Speaker 9: I don't know. I don't like Tony Romo. I'm not

2107
01:39:15,600 --> 01:39:17,639
Speaker 9: a fan. Sorry, are you? Do you think of Tony?

2108
01:39:18,400 --> 01:39:19,479
Speaker 3: It's it's it's.

2109
01:39:19,320 --> 01:39:21,320
Speaker 1: So wishy washy, right, Like, It's like he'd be on

2110
01:39:21,320 --> 01:39:22,920
Speaker 1: one say, I mean you have to do that, you

2111
01:39:22,960 --> 01:39:25,720
Speaker 1: can't take sides. I guess it's he knows his stuff though. Man,

2112
01:39:25,760 --> 01:39:28,519
Speaker 1: he'll call a playout and it'll happen. Knows what he's

2113
01:39:28,560 --> 01:39:29,320
Speaker 1: talking about, of.

2114
01:39:29,240 --> 01:39:31,800
Speaker 9: Course he does. Yeah, there's no doubt about that.

2115
01:39:32,360 --> 01:39:33,760
Speaker 3: What about Chris Collinsworth.

2116
01:39:33,920 --> 01:39:36,040
Speaker 12: Happy birthday to Chris Collinsworth. By the way, I think

2117
01:39:36,080 --> 01:39:38,479
Speaker 12: he had his birthday yesterday, so we're a day apart.

2118
01:39:38,560 --> 01:39:39,360
Speaker 3: That's what I'm asking.

2119
01:39:40,280 --> 01:39:42,519
Speaker 9: I like Chris Collinsworth, I like his son. I think

2120
01:39:42,560 --> 01:39:43,360
Speaker 9: they're a great duo.

2121
01:39:43,520 --> 01:39:45,240
Speaker 3: If he were from I don't know any other city

2122
01:39:45,240 --> 01:39:47,240
Speaker 3: you'd hate on maybe.

2123
01:39:48,640 --> 01:39:49,320
Speaker 9: Chris collins Worth.

2124
01:39:49,400 --> 01:39:51,240
Speaker 3: Have you ever said, shut up Chris of the TV?

2125
01:39:51,720 --> 01:39:52,320
Speaker 9: I don't think so.

2126
01:39:52,520 --> 01:39:55,400
Speaker 3: I have good for you. Show up, Chris.

2127
01:39:58,120 --> 01:40:02,040
Speaker 12: I've heard he's a big fan of the Chiefs. You'll

2128
01:40:02,080 --> 01:40:04,320
Speaker 12: give a hard time for his love for Pat Mahomes

2129
01:40:04,320 --> 01:40:06,960
Speaker 12: and the Sheets. Okay, but it's like he can't really

2130
01:40:07,040 --> 01:40:08,800
Speaker 12: show favorites. He can't just go out and be a

2131
01:40:08,840 --> 01:40:10,240
Speaker 12: Bengals fan. Twenty four seven.

2132
01:40:10,320 --> 01:40:13,519
Speaker 9: He's trying to do a job right, so respectible you whatever.

2133
01:40:13,560 --> 01:40:15,840
Speaker 1: If it's local that that is the ass you're gonna get.

2134
01:40:15,920 --> 01:40:16,960
Speaker 1: Those slips are firmly.

2135
01:40:17,200 --> 01:40:21,160
Speaker 12: The Miami Redhak right twenty one and oh.

2136
01:40:20,880 --> 01:40:22,559
Speaker 3: All right, we got how much time? We got time?

2137
01:40:22,920 --> 01:40:26,360
Speaker 12: Yeah, we've got local hoops back tonight. The Bearcats are oh,

2138
01:40:26,560 --> 01:40:28,800
Speaker 12: Dave said, three minutes. Okay, Bearcats are back at Fifth

2139
01:40:28,800 --> 01:40:31,880
Speaker 12: Third Arena tonight. They're hosting Bayler tip off at six

2140
01:40:32,000 --> 01:40:35,600
Speaker 12: thirty Bears the Bears. Yeah, the Zager Musketeers are on

2141
01:40:35,680 --> 01:40:39,920
Speaker 12: the road. They've got Seaton Hall at seven thirty, which

2142
01:40:39,960 --> 01:40:41,720
Speaker 12: game is on the airwaves here the Bearcats.

2143
01:40:41,880 --> 01:40:42,679
Speaker 9: That's who we favor.

2144
01:40:43,040 --> 01:40:44,720
Speaker 3: Thank you the Bearcats.

2145
01:40:44,240 --> 01:40:47,800
Speaker 9: Here on the home of yours Cincinnati.

2146
01:40:47,240 --> 01:40:49,160
Speaker 3: Reds on the home of the Cincinnata Bearcats.

2147
01:40:49,200 --> 01:40:52,479
Speaker 1: And then you got you got the Travis or I'm sorry,

2148
01:40:52,479 --> 01:40:55,639
Speaker 1: you got the u X, the X, the U via

2149
01:40:55,720 --> 01:40:59,800
Speaker 1: the u V. The X is playing on fifty five

2150
01:41:00,400 --> 01:41:02,839
Speaker 1: Arc D talk station.

2151
01:41:03,000 --> 01:41:04,559
Speaker 9: Thank you, Seg, thank you.

2152
01:41:04,640 --> 01:41:07,960
Speaker 12: Speaking of our ruds, fifty seven days to go until

2153
01:41:08,000 --> 01:41:08,639
Speaker 12: opening day.

2154
01:41:08,960 --> 01:41:11,559
Speaker 9: The countdown is countdown is officially on.

2155
01:41:12,120 --> 01:41:16,000
Speaker 12: How many days we've got Red Hawks and Ruds. God,

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Speaker 12: I know my dad, being a huge Bengals fan every

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Speaker 12: day sends me some sort of countdown.

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Speaker 9: He's not really on board with baseball.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if they've not done anything though to warranty.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, I'm like, what are we What are we excited about?

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01:41:27,960 --> 01:41:29,759
Speaker 12: Zack moving forward?

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01:41:29,920 --> 01:41:33,800
Speaker 1: Arguably worse because other guys are gonna go right, all right,

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01:41:33,800 --> 01:41:34,719
Speaker 1: So be careful, Seg.

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01:41:34,720 --> 01:41:36,439
Speaker 3: If you drive it in today out of the peer pressure.

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Speaker 9: No, we'll see him tomorrow.

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01:41:38,439 --> 01:41:41,519
Speaker 3: Maybe what's Chicken Day, He'll be here, segment here.

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Speaker 12: Everyone be safe out there on the roads that have

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Speaker 12: nothing on them. Yeah, all the words are clear, excepparently Middletown.

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Speaker 12: It's the only one that's not.

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Speaker 9: Middletown is under the snow and ice and dramas.

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Speaker 3: They stole the plows and sold it for scrap.

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01:41:52,000 --> 01:41:52,920
Speaker 9: They forgot about them.

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01:41:52,960 --> 01:41:54,160
Speaker 3: I guess I'm more crack.

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Speaker 9: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: You know how icy it is too? Seriously, it's so icy.

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Speaker 1: The Camtaylor brit Only is doing twenty miles over the

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Speaker 1: speed limit.

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Speaker 12: Oh my god. I wasn't even going to bring it up.

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Speaker 12: It makes me so mad.

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Speaker 3: What do you do?

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Speaker 1: There's an acces morning on Fort washing Away. People calling

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01:42:10,200 --> 01:42:11,760
Speaker 1: the news from like crazy. It was car and it

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01:42:11,800 --> 01:42:13,240
Speaker 1: has it to be like seven o'clock in the morning.

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01:42:13,439 --> 01:42:16,080
Speaker 1: Somehow a car you may see on the news ended

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01:42:16,160 --> 01:42:18,960
Speaker 1: up with sticking straight up and down on the on

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Speaker 1: the Uh, oh my god. And Fort Washington Away.

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01:42:21,600 --> 01:42:22,679
Speaker 9: I don't know how does that happen?

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01:42:22,720 --> 01:42:26,240
Speaker 1: Did you drive like an idiot? And I said, it's

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Speaker 1: like it's between paycour and Great America. Like Cam turn

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01:42:29,280 --> 01:42:30,960
Speaker 1: to bring us a way into the stadium for some reason,

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01:42:31,000 --> 01:42:33,200
Speaker 1: we don't know about how anywhere Kay's cann that.

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01:42:33,240 --> 01:42:34,360
Speaker 3: Guy can he wreck?

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Speaker 12: I'm done with Cam Taylor CTB. No, I cannot support

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01:42:39,120 --> 01:42:42,200
Speaker 12: So yeah, they've got to read that absolutely crazy behavior.

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Speaker 1: They got a load all right. Anyway, Sarah Releas is here.

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Speaker 1: Wish your happy birthday on our social media.

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Speaker 9: Feedware, Sarah least one two eight one.

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Speaker 3: Two eight, Happy fortieth for Sarah.

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Speaker 9: Twenty nine plus tax.

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01:42:52,720 --> 01:42:53,519
Speaker 3: That's a lot of tax.

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Speaker 9: That's not that much. It's not as much as you think.

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Speaker 1: Like California, a little bit like New York City tax.

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Speaker 1: I'm twenty nine attacks I'm forty.

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Speaker 12: It's like twenty nine ish. We're not We're not at

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01:43:06,040 --> 01:43:09,680
Speaker 12: forty twenty. We are not at forty, not yet. I

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01:43:09,720 --> 01:43:12,880
Speaker 12: will not be here when I turned forty, I will

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01:43:12,920 --> 01:43:13,639
Speaker 12: not be here.

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Speaker 3: You'll be here.

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Speaker 12: I am getting out of Cincinnati, You'll be here. Uh huh,

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01:43:18,680 --> 01:43:19,240
Speaker 12: I probably will.

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Speaker 1: We are.

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Speaker 3: You're gonna go.

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01:43:20,120 --> 01:43:21,559
Speaker 9: I well know where else am I gonna go.

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01:43:22,600 --> 01:43:25,639
Speaker 1: She'll be sitting in ten years, she'll be just walk

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01:43:25,680 --> 01:43:28,599
Speaker 1: into a restaurant somewhere at ten o'clock on a Tuesday morning.

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01:43:28,720 --> 01:43:33,680
Speaker 1: She's there, just in Covington, just ripping Virginia slims, doing shaw.

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01:43:33,760 --> 01:43:37,799
Speaker 12: Did you used to be Sarah Lee's Yeah, yeah, yeah, honey,

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01:43:39,720 --> 01:43:41,200
Speaker 12: all of a sudden, I'm taking up smoking.

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01:43:41,600 --> 01:43:44,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you're gonna go all the way down. Hey, hotie,

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01:43:44,800 --> 01:43:49,200
Speaker 1: Yeah he turned the mard shot, not exactly. Can I

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Speaker 1: get my pictures, I guess Sarah tomorrow Morning kick Christie

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Speaker 1: two seventy, Happy birthday, dear, thanks for popping and thank

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Speaker 1: you for risking.

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01:43:56,640 --> 01:43:58,040
Speaker 3: Your life to come out of the icy road.

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01:43:58,160 --> 01:44:00,400
Speaker 1: I risked it all just to be here today. Sports

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Speaker 1: person we have in the station, still dedicated to the craft.

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Speaker 1: That's right, Sarah Least. Bill Cunningham, Sex and Able are

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Speaker 1: next seven hundred WLW