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Speaker 1: Welcome to another episode. I tell you, hey, Dubbs in

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Speaker 1: layman's terms, what's going on with this gambling bit? Dude?

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Speaker 1: People are just literally out of the movie. Yeah. They're

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Speaker 1: like heading to the court ready to play basketball and

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Speaker 1: they're getting yanked off to jail. What's up? Yeah? One

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Speaker 1: of them is an old timberwolf.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Chauncey Billups. He is the coach for the Portland Trailblazers.

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Speaker 2: After the game on Wednesday, FBI rested him because he

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Speaker 2: was involved in illegal gambling. It was a poker ring

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Speaker 2: with a mafia crime family, and.

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Speaker 1: I mean he really got into it right. Yes, he

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Speaker 1: was part of the X Ray table, wasn't it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So he was what they consider a face card,

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Speaker 2: so he would bring in celebrities or other players to

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Speaker 2: play in these poker games where the people that they

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Speaker 2: brought in would lose money because they have X ray

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Speaker 2: machines built into the tables to read face down cards.

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Speaker 2: They have contact lenses and glasses that read pre marked cards,

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Speaker 2: and then secret camera secret cameras in like the card shufflers.

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Speaker 1: Whoo. So basically a question everything, yeah.

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Speaker 3: Oh my gosh.

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Speaker 2: And then there was another player that got caught one

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Speaker 2: of the crime families, like for sports betting, he gave

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Speaker 2: them intel or he'd be like, hey, so their props

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Speaker 2: if he would get twenty points in the game or

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Speaker 2: four rebounds, five assists. Yeah, Terry Rogier, he said, bet

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Speaker 2: my unders because I'm going to go out of the

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Speaker 2: game tonight early.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: They bet like two hundred thousand dollars on it, and

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Speaker 2: they would literally count the money after the game on

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Speaker 2: his kitchen table.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he would fake an injury. Yeah, he can take

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Speaker 1: the cash. And I've bet on that guy before and

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Speaker 1: I'm mad. I bet over.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's crazy.

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Speaker 1: They rusted thirty Yeah, thirty people. Yeah, who knows how

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Speaker 1: many more? I suppose, right, I mean because people are

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Speaker 1: going to talk and get more people involved. I imagine, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: how did it work with Chauncey Billups? How did that work?

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Speaker 1: So it wasn't at a casino, right, They would be

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Speaker 1: like somebody.

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Speaker 2: Saying they went to somebody's house or some like secret

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Speaker 2: spot somewhere, and he would be like, hey, come with me,

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Speaker 2: We're gonna play some poker at whoever.

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Speaker 1: Blah blahs house in a private setting. But they had

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Speaker 1: an X ray machine in the table underneath and it

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Speaker 1: could see the cards. Yep, that is unreal.

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Speaker 2: I swear we're in a movie. We're back in the

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Speaker 2: nineteen twenties. We got a major jewel heights happening at

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Speaker 2: the Louver or wherever it was.

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Speaker 1: And then we got this in the nineteen twenties, though

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Speaker 1: they didn't have the glasses and the contact lenses to

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Speaker 1: quite scan the cards for you.

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Speaker 2: I know, but you got mafia crime families and sports scandals.

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Speaker 3: M jeez, that's crazy that.

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Speaker 1: He knows because he's Chicago. Guys. Sorry, that's why we

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Speaker 1: are also Chicago. They girl. Yeah, he's from He's from

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Speaker 1: Kirk County, right, that's what we call it, maybe County.

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: Didn't a lot of these mafia crime families like seek

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Speaker 3: shelter in Minnesota or something.

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Speaker 1: And Wisconsin capone would come up here.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I have like secret places that they would

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Speaker 3: stay here.

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Speaker 1: My wife's family used to make the hoots for the capons.

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Speaker 1: I think there was the phones back in the dah

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Speaker 1: Really what was the name of that whiskey? Is it

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Speaker 1: twenty one whiskey something? Nineteen? I CA it was a number.

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Speaker 1: My wife's mom knows all about it. And they were yeah.

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Speaker 1: I don't think they knew though. I think they're just like, oh, yeah,

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Speaker 1: we're making a whisky. One discuss your likeshit down at

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Speaker 1: Chicago were stripping a bunch down to him, was doing

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Speaker 1: as Wow, that's awesome. I didn't know that. All depends

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Speaker 1: on how you look at it. Sure, that's super cool. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's a real breaker.

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Speaker 3: They're making whiskey during Prohibition.

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Speaker 1: I think so the way I understood it. And I

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Speaker 1: hope I'm not speaking out of turn because I don't

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Speaker 1: want to be hauled out of here myself.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, haul you out. Well happen during Prohibition. That had

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Speaker 3: nothing to do with you. You didn't do it well, I.

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Speaker 1: Know, but they don't know that, you know what I mean?

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Speaker 1: They could ask me about.

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Speaker 3: A question, are you alive during Prohibition?

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Speaker 1: Was it? One? Was that the nineteen twenties? Let's see,

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Speaker 1: I was pretty close you weren't. You were in high school?

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Speaker 2: My buddy his house had a tunnel that ran like

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Speaker 2: they bricked it over, but it was one of like

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Speaker 2: the tunnels that ran to the bar.

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Speaker 1: Your buddy in high schools around in the nineteen twenties.

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Speaker 1: The house that he lived.

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Speaker 3: Oh why didn't he down that brick wall.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I was like, why are we breaking this down

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Speaker 1: and checking it out? Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Maybe, like I guess, put up a door on a

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Speaker 3: lock on it, I guess. But if you have a

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Speaker 3: tunnel that leads you straight to the bar and straight home,

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Speaker 3: are you kidding?

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Speaker 1: Maybe you don't want to find out what's on the

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Speaker 1: other side of that tunnel now, but I do. There

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Speaker 1: could be some people waiting for you over there have

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Speaker 1: been waiting around since the nineteen twenty. They're hungry, you

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Speaker 1: know what I mean. Cannibalsking something from Chicago, aren't they. Yeah. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: There's there's videos that pop up sometimes on TikTok or

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Speaker 3: anywhere online where people will discover tunnels under their house

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Speaker 3: like that, and they start exploring and it's weird. I

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Speaker 3: get really into that stuff though. I think it's kind

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Speaker 3: of cool.

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Speaker 1: Do you think it's real all of them?

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Speaker 3: I mean, who knows. I'm sure there's some that are faked,

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Speaker 3: but some of them seem super super legit. There'll be

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Speaker 3: the people who like bought a house or something, or

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Speaker 3: they're doing some yard work and then they're like, what

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Speaker 3: is this door in the ground that we've never noticed before?

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Speaker 1: That's what makes me suspect a little bit. I don't

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Speaker 1: know people have had home inspections sin it's like, oh

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Speaker 1: do you know you have you know, I mean you

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Speaker 1: think they'd figured that out. Those people are really good.

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Speaker 3: If it's like a home inspection, yeah, but if there's

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Speaker 3: something like I don't know, but.

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Speaker 1: In the yard that's some bushes or something.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, like one hundred yards away from the house and

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Speaker 3: it's buried under a bunch of brush and stuff. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: especially in Europe, because they'd have tunnels that were a

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Speaker 3: little like bomb shelters that would connect houses in the

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Speaker 3: neighborhood to each other, which is really scary. I don't

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Speaker 3: tunnels connecting me to other houses around.

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Speaker 1: Right, No, really really weird. That would fo if I

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Speaker 1: buy anything anymore. AI And the videos and stuff are

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Speaker 1: so convincing now they have been for years be able

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Speaker 1: to put stuff together, But now, I mean it was

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Speaker 1: kind of convincing. I should say years ago, I would

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Speaker 1: catch your eye then you catch the fake. But now

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Speaker 1: it's I mean, it's pretty dialed in. It is hard,

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Speaker 1: you know.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, But imagine being a little kid like Lena or

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Speaker 3: like my baby. They're going to grow up in this

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Speaker 3: world where AI is already so smart and it's so

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Speaker 3: convincing to us, and we've watched this progression happened. That's

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Speaker 3: their only reality. They only are going to know a

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Speaker 3: world where AI is that smart, and it's only going

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Speaker 3: to get smarter. So nothing's gonna feel real. And I

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Speaker 3: think that, and I hope that there's going to be

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Speaker 3: some kind of shift where I don't know, where people

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Speaker 3: are going to really demand some kind of proof that

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Speaker 3: things are legitimate and get it. I don't know how.

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Speaker 3: I don't know. Maybe maybe people start not being as

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Speaker 3: not being online as much.

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Speaker 1: Maybe yeah, oh, they'll just come completely off the grid.

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Speaker 3: Kind of like a full.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Maybe, I mean, because you already see parents trying to

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Speaker 3: like avoid putting their kids' faces on social media sometimes

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Speaker 3: and things like that to at least give the kid

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Speaker 3: a choice. But I don't know. I just wonder sometimes

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Speaker 3: if it'll actually circle around where they're like, this is

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Speaker 3: nothing's real.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to be here. Somebody sent me someth

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Speaker 1: there was it a week or two ago of dubs

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Speaker 1: that I'm making out, and I'm like, I don't think

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Speaker 1: that happened. I don't remember it, do you?

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Speaker 3: Oh?

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Speaker 1: Very convincing. Oh is that you? That's real? That was real? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Why did that happen? How drunk? Use? I want to

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Speaker 1: remember that looked very passionate.

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Speaker 3: Don't you guys worry about it? Just don't don't think

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Speaker 3: about it. When I give you a cup of water

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Speaker 3: in the morning, don't think about it.

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Speaker 1: That's what it was. It makes sense starting to come back.

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Speaker 1: I was on a tom Cruise movie. There, it's okay, No,

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Speaker 1: it's not really.

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Speaker 3: I shouldn't joke like that.

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Speaker 1: You guys, I think we know it. Wouldn't put it

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Speaker 1: for you to do it, just to do it, not

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Speaker 1: for any intent, just like hear right, watch them pass out.

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Speaker 3: The ub crowd gets it.

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Speaker 1: Take some pictures during this Cosby cocktail.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't have to worry about you guys.

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Speaker 1: Well, Steph, your face is so grizzly. I love it.

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Speaker 1: Rubbing bear.

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Speaker 3: Guys, couldn't suzzle your beards together. Although Doves doesn't have

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Speaker 3: a beard today, No trimmed it. You shaved it off.

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Speaker 1: Yeah that's quite because you got roofed less. Yeah, thanks

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Speaker 1: for listening this episode up you and if you would

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Speaker 1: Thank you,