Speaker 1: Jesse Kelly's Show. Another hour of The Jesse Kelly Show
Speaker 1: on an Amazing Tuesday. So this hour, at some point
Speaker 1: I'll get to some emails, hopefully, But I got to
Speaker 1: do a few things, so let me lay it all
Speaker 1: out for you. One, I have to tell you my
Speaker 1: Ninja throwing Star Champion story, which I'm gonna get to
Speaker 1: in a moment. Two, I got a bunch of emails
Speaker 1: about the Trump versus Thomas Massey primary while it was gone.
Speaker 1: It's probably not fair for me to just skip that
Speaker 1: whole thing, so I'll talk about it with you. Probably
Speaker 1: make you mad, but whatever, we'll get to that that
Speaker 1: we'll do some emails and other things coming up in
Speaker 1: the second hour of The Jesse Kelly Show. So I
Speaker 1: already mentioned I was in Japan doing a World War
Speaker 1: two tour. Took some time to go to the Samurai Well,
Speaker 1: one of the Samurai slash Ninja museums. I heard Wireshik laughing, Chris,
Speaker 1: why are you laughing? It was amazing for your information.
Speaker 1: I got some information on how they crafted Japanese samurai
Speaker 1: swords and whatnot. But you don't just show up at
Speaker 1: the museum and walk through on your own. They take
Speaker 1: large groups of people at a time and they escort
Speaker 1: you through the museum to educate you on all the
Speaker 1: different things that are going on here. This is why
Speaker 1: this is on this armor, and this is why they
Speaker 1: carried this, and this is what happened here. And just
Speaker 1: so you're learning all kinds of samurai slash and ninja
Speaker 1: history stuff. But before the tour begins, the instructor or
Speaker 1: I don't know, tour god, I guess I should say,
Speaker 1: stands in front of the entire group, a bunch of
Speaker 1: us in there, I don't know, thirty of us, maybe,
Speaker 1: stands in front of the entire group and says, hey,
Speaker 1: at the end of this, I'm going to show everybody
Speaker 1: how to throw a nin just throwing star, and then
Speaker 1: we are going to have a competition to see who
Speaker 1: the champion is. And I told everybody I was gonna win.
Speaker 1: Oh I did, Chris, I did. I told the entire
Speaker 1: group right away, loudly. It wasn't just Ob and the boys.
Speaker 1: I told everybody. I said, oh, I'm winning, that I'm
Speaker 1: gonna win. That. Bob was, of course mortified beyond belief.
Speaker 1: The boys start loudly challenging me, informing me, they're going
Speaker 1: to win. What Chris was, No, no, no, no, I
Speaker 1: told the whole group. Chris said, Did I tell the
Speaker 1: group or say it out loud? No. I told the
Speaker 1: whole group that I was going to win, And there
Speaker 1: were some snickers. I think that people thought. I think
Speaker 1: they thought I was kidding. Bob knew I wasn't kidding.
Speaker 1: The boys knew I wasn't kidding. But I think some
Speaker 1: other people who didn't know me maybe thought that I
Speaker 1: was just joking around. But I knew I was gonna win.
Speaker 1: We go up after we finish this whole tour, we
Speaker 1: learned the ways of the samurai and the Ninja. We
Speaker 1: end up in this room. It really really cool room,
Speaker 1: and it had these walls, like all the walls three
Speaker 1: hundred and sixty degrees were targets, these little targets, and
Speaker 1: you stood with this huge group and they have these
Speaker 1: lines up on the floor and they handed out these
Speaker 1: ninja throwing stars and they showed, you know, you throw
Speaker 1: it like this, do it like that, and then boom,
Speaker 1: competition time. It's like a March Madness style competition. And
Speaker 1: I win the first round and what Chris? What Chris said,
Speaker 1: how do you do the competition. It's quite simple. There's
Speaker 1: a target on the wall. Who's throwing bullseyes out there, Chris.
Speaker 1: This is what we ninja do. This is a way
Speaker 1: of life for us. It's not I don't even want
Speaker 1: to say it's a competition. It's life or death for me.
Speaker 1: I have to make these throws. So the tournament begins
Speaker 1: and I win the first round. Well, I should say,
Speaker 1: I advance in the first round, advance in the second round,
Speaker 1: so on and so on and so on, and finally, shockingly,
Speaker 1: there's the championship, me and one other person. Yes, that's correct.
Speaker 1: As you can imagine, Bob is praying loudly, praying that
Speaker 1: I do not win the championship. She is telling everybody
Speaker 1: there if he wins, after telling everybody that he's going
Speaker 1: to win, he's going to be impossible to be around.
Speaker 1: I hope he loses. So my spouse was root against
Speaker 1: me in the competition, but it wasn't even really a contest,
Speaker 1: to be honest with you, of course I won. My
Speaker 1: prize for winning was I got to keep my throwing star.
Speaker 1: Yeah it is awesome, Chris, it is awesome. And so
Speaker 1: for the rest of the trip, I would randomly pull
Speaker 1: it out in front of my family and be all, Oh,
Speaker 1: do you guys not have one of these? Oh? I
Speaker 1: understand that's because you're not a champion. Now, I've told
Speaker 1: you before. You were welcome to emailing your love, your hate,
Speaker 1: your death threats, whatever you'd like to Jesse at jesse
Speaker 1: kellyshow dot com, and I generally haven't given you any rules.
Speaker 1: It's a email. Whatever you want. If you make them
Speaker 1: too long, Chris isn't going to give them to me.
Speaker 1: I'm never going to see it. If you complain about ads,
Speaker 1: I'm never going to see it. Chris will just delete them.
Speaker 1: But for the most part, I get all your emails.
Speaker 1: I like to read them, but I have to I
Speaker 1: have to let you know something. I will not teach
Speaker 1: you the ways of the Ninja if you ask, these
Speaker 1: are secret? What Chris? These are secret ways. I can't
Speaker 1: just tell everybody the Deadly arts what Chris. Chris said,
Speaker 1: how do we know that I actually want? Well, Chris,
Speaker 1: you have OB's number. Why don't you shoot her a
Speaker 1: text message right now during the show and ask her
Speaker 1: did Jesse really win the Ninja throwing star competition? There? What? What?
Speaker 1: Why don't I bring in the star. I'll bring in
Speaker 1: the star. But look, it's fine with me, but the
Speaker 1: star itself doesn't prove anything. I already told you ab
Speaker 1: was rooting against me. She has no incentive to lie.
Speaker 1: In fact, she promised that she would lie. Afterwards. She said,
Speaker 1: I swear I'm going to tell people this didn't happen
Speaker 1: because it's gonna be so bad. Chris, shoot ob little text.
Speaker 1: Just ask her, Hey, did he they do it? I
Speaker 1: really did it? On my life. I told everyone I
Speaker 1: was going to do it. How many times have I
Speaker 1: told you that I'm naturally stealthy? I just blend in.
Speaker 1: I knew I would be a natural ninja before I
Speaker 1: even walked into the place. So there you go. Now
Speaker 1: let's talk about this. I'll just read the email. Part
Speaker 1: time radio host. I know you're not a massy fanboy,
Speaker 1: but he might have been the last fiscal conservative left,
Speaker 1: especially with Chip Roy leaving Congress. They cavanaught him. It
Speaker 1: seems like they could have taken him out without stooping
Speaker 1: to that level. What's your take on the dirty tricks.
Speaker 1: Some of the people in Trump's orbit are despicable. What
Speaker 1: are your thoughts on the whole thing? Says his name
Speaker 1: is Dave. Dave also says love the show, even if
Speaker 1: the history segments are too few and far between. I'm
Speaker 1: going to work on a new history segment for you.
Speaker 1: By the way, I'm not going to leave you swinging
Speaker 1: in the win on that. Okay, So let's recap for
Speaker 1: those who maybe weren't paying attention or don't remember, Thomas
Speaker 1: Massey was a libertarian. Well, I guess he still is.
Speaker 1: He's still in Congress. Was a libertarian ish congressman from Kentucky.
Speaker 1: Kentucky kind of likes that brand of Republican. Ran Paul
Speaker 1: is easily the most libertarian United States Senator, also from Kentucky.
Speaker 1: So there's a libertarian strain running through the Republican Party
Speaker 1: in Kentucky. Obviously, that's the thing, all right. Thomas Massey
Speaker 1: ends up, Well, we'll get through the actual election a
Speaker 1: little bit. Let me lay out what happened, and let
Speaker 1: me go ahead and forewarn you, as I oftentimes do,
Speaker 1: I am not your mommy. I'm going to lay out
Speaker 1: exactly what happened and why it happened, and no matter
Speaker 1: where you fall in this whole thing, you may find
Speaker 1: some of these things offensive. And I don't care. If
Speaker 1: you get offended. You can email and wine about it
Speaker 1: all you want. I still won't care. Here is what happened. First,
Speaker 1: you mentioned fiscal conservatism. Let's just focus on that before
Speaker 1: we get to the massy part of it. This whole
Speaker 1: cut spending thing. Now, the national debt for me, is
Speaker 1: a huge, huge, huge deal because it's really just math.
Speaker 1: It's inevitable if the debt gets bad enough, it is
Speaker 1: going to bring about some level of catastrophe for the country.
Speaker 1: I'm not talking about in the country. I'm not talking
Speaker 1: about that. On a long enough timeline, it would, but
Speaker 1: we're talking fiscal catastrophe. That is what happens historically. You
Speaker 1: can't avoid the math of it. If the debt gets
Speaker 1: too high, it's a big problem, a huge, huge problem
Speaker 1: that will in the end result and a big drop
Speaker 1: in your standard of living and my standard of living.
Speaker 1: That's just the truth. I am passionate about the national debt. Passionate.
Speaker 1: I am also, however, realistic, and I know that you aren't.
Speaker 1: I'm not necessarily talking about you specifically. The voter in general,
Speaker 1: Republican and Democrat. They don't care about the debt. They
Speaker 1: don't care about spending. This will all bring us to
Speaker 1: the Massy Trump fight and everything else in a monment.
Speaker 1: This is the Jesse Kelly Show on a wonderful, wonderful Tuesday.
Speaker 1: All right. So I'm recapping now because I got so
Speaker 1: many emails on it, the big Trump versus Thomas Massey
Speaker 1: primary battle where Massey ended up losing it. But I'm
Speaker 1: going back to the beginning, the origins of all this
Speaker 1: and how all this came to be. So I mentioned
Speaker 1: this whole cut spending fiscal conservatism thing. The national debt
Speaker 1: is a big deal to me. Spending is a big
Speaker 1: deal to me. It is not a big deal to
Speaker 1: the voter. Politicians do not lose their seats because they
Speaker 1: spend too much money. That is not a thing that
Speaker 1: happens in the United States of America. If you are
Speaker 1: a politician, Republican or Democrat in this country, you can
Speaker 1: lose your seat for a variety of reasons. You know,
Speaker 1: John Cornyn came out and publicly joined with Democrats on
Speaker 1: a gun control bill. A Republican senator from God's Country,
Speaker 1: Texas decided he was going to push for gun control.
Speaker 1: John Cornyan is going to be a civilian by like
Speaker 1: tomorrow morning. There are things you can't do. But John
Speaker 1: Cornyn has over two decades in the United States, Senate
Speaker 1: John Cornyan never came close to losing a primary because
Speaker 1: he spent too much money, not one time. Think how
Speaker 1: many Republican politicians vote for big spending and Republican primary
Speaker 1: voters are never tempted to go vote them out of
Speaker 1: office for it. It does not happen. The American public doesn't
Speaker 1: care about spending. Now that brings me to Donald Trump.
Speaker 1: We'll talk about him first. Donald Trump is not only
Speaker 1: a businessman, a real estate businessman. So why is that important?
Speaker 1: It's very important. Guys who do what Donald Trump does,
Speaker 1: they always take on debt, always, always, always. That's really
Speaker 1: the life of a real estate guy. And I'm not
Speaker 1: one of these guys, but I know some of these guys,
Speaker 1: not to Trump's level. I'm not gonna act like that,
Speaker 1: but I know some of these guys, and they all
Speaker 1: seem to operate like this. It's really essentially gambling, smart gambling,
Speaker 1: but it's gambling. Hey, there's a wonderful piece of property
Speaker 1: here outside of Houston, Texas. It's twenty miles outside of Houston, Texas.
Speaker 1: I'm looking at this piece of property, and I'm looking
Speaker 1: at the highway system around it, and I'm looking at this,
Speaker 1: and I'm looking at that, and I'm the good trees.
Speaker 1: I got a river nearby. I'm looking at this. I'm
Speaker 1: a real estate guy. And you know what I say
Speaker 1: to myself. I could buy this We'll call it ten
Speaker 1: thousand acres. I could buy this ten thousand acres. I
Speaker 1: could buy it, and I could split it up into
Speaker 1: a massive subdivision. I could spend again, make up another
Speaker 1: random number. I could spend one hundred million dollars buying
Speaker 1: this ten thousand acres, making sure I get all the
Speaker 1: permitting need and make making sure I get everything done,
Speaker 1: and then essentially do the land developer thing, sell it off.
Speaker 1: Hopefully everyone comes in and buys these little homes in there,
Speaker 1: and in the end I spent one hundred million, I
Speaker 1: made three hundred million. That's the gamble. Now, I'm a
Speaker 1: real estate developer. I may have a lot of money,
Speaker 1: but I don't have one hundred million dollars sitting in
Speaker 1: my checking account. But banks, dude, So I'm going to
Speaker 1: go find a lender who will lend me one hundred
Speaker 1: million dollars, which I will then take and spend on
Speaker 1: my ten thousand acres and the Lord Willigan. In the end,
Speaker 1: I come back and I end up painting. Do you
Speaker 1: understand the game? You understand the game? That is the
Speaker 1: game Donald Trump has played for his entire life before
Speaker 1: he ever came down the Golden escalator and starting started
Speaker 1: running for president. Donald Trump is not a guy like,
Speaker 1: for instance, I am what does that mean? I hate debt.
Speaker 1: I hate debt. I just it's not that I won't
Speaker 1: take any of it. You know, I have a mortgage
Speaker 1: like anybody else. It's not that I won't take any
Speaker 1: of it, but I don't. There's a reason I don't
Speaker 1: have a boat, second home, or I don't want extra debt.
Speaker 1: I do not. I fear debt. I don't like taking
Speaker 1: on debt. It's my it's in my nature. Donald Trump's
Speaker 1: not that guy at all. Donald Trump will take in
Speaker 1: huge amounts of debt, personally, hundreds of millions of dollars
Speaker 1: of debt on a risk that this golf course I'm
Speaker 1: starting in Scotland, I'm gonna take it. I'm gonna take
Speaker 1: a chance it's gonna pay off. I'm gonna start a
Speaker 1: casino in Atlantic City. I'm just gonna invest it. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna take out a big loan. I'm gonna I'm gonna
Speaker 1: gamble constantly, gambling. Debt for Donald Trump is not a stress.
Speaker 1: It's how business has always been done in Donald Trump's life.
Speaker 1: That's how the real estate developer game is. He's not
Speaker 1: unique in that. They're all every real estate guy I've
Speaker 1: ever known or her, They're all that way because the
Speaker 1: whole acsence of it is, I'm taking a chance. Are
Speaker 1: people gonna show up to this casino? If I spend
Speaker 1: a billion dollars? Hopefully they better because I took out
Speaker 1: a billion dollar loan. And if they don't, then I'm
Speaker 1: gonna have to go into bankruptcy. Why do you think
Speaker 1: Donald Trump's the clear bankruptcy? What is it? Three times?
Speaker 1: It's because he's an idiot. No, he's very smart. That's
Speaker 1: the game. Sometimes it doesn't work out right. Donald Trump
Speaker 1: thinks about debt as something that you do, that is,
Speaker 1: that is part of life, that is that is something
Speaker 1: you have to take on if you want to make
Speaker 1: the next big step, if you want to make the
Speaker 1: next billion dollars, if you want to do this, then
Speaker 1: debt's going to be part of it. You can't be
Speaker 1: like me, avoiding debt and be a billionaire. Do you
Speaker 1: know that I'll never be a billionaire ever because I
Speaker 1: don't like that game. I don't like It's just not
Speaker 1: in my nature. Chris will definitely never be He could
Speaker 1: never what we all know, you're not taking on that
Speaker 1: kind of debt, all right. That leads me to Trump
Speaker 1: and how he thinks about our debt. Hang on my
Speaker 1: full fantastic Tuesday. I'll get to the emails and other
Speaker 1: things here in a little bit, but we're covering I'm
Speaker 1: recapping the whole Trump Massy things. Okay, So I just
Speaker 1: laid out Trump. Trump is not a guy who cared
Speaker 1: before he got into politics about debt. Doesn't care about it.
Speaker 1: That's just something you use to get ahead. Well, you're
Speaker 1: always going to take who you are personally into the
Speaker 1: political realm in some way, it's gonna affect how you
Speaker 1: view things. Donald Trump has never been ever a quote
Speaker 1: cut spending guy. Now, let me clarify. Donald Trump has
Speaker 1: reduced the size of the federal government. Donald Trump is
Speaker 1: okay with people cutting spending, but he is never He's
Speaker 1: not like he's lied about it. He's never pretended to
Speaker 1: be some fiscal hawk. He just hasn't been. Yeah, he'll
Speaker 1: mention it some campaign rally, Ah, we should balance the budget,
Speaker 1: or he'll say something like, well tariff, so balance the
Speaker 1: budget or something like that. But that's about the extent
Speaker 1: to which he's ever are going to harp on spending
Speaker 1: or the national debt. Now that's just Trump personally. Let's
Speaker 1: talk about another uncomfortable aspect of this whole thing. Well,
Speaker 1: maybe it's not uncomfortable, but it's just reality. I guess
Speaker 1: I shouldn't call it uncomfortable. It's reality. We have to
Speaker 1: be adults here. To be the American President is to
Speaker 1: be the most powerful person on the planet. It is
Speaker 1: as close to you could you could make this argument.
Speaker 1: To be the American President is about as close as
Speaker 1: you can possibly come to having superpowers on this planet.
Speaker 1: You know, you're never going to have laser eyes, you're
Speaker 1: never going to have super speed, you're never going to
Speaker 1: learn how to fly. But to be the top executive
Speaker 1: in the United States of America, with our economy, the
Speaker 1: most powerful military ever, that is as close as you
Speaker 1: can to having actual super powers. The power you have
Speaker 1: with the decisions you make Now, what if what if
Speaker 1: I could give you the ability to fly? Just like Superman.
Speaker 1: You you have the ability to fly. But here's the problem.
Speaker 1: You really shouldn't fly. You see, there are a lot
Speaker 1: of Look, there are a lot of helicopters in this area.
Speaker 1: A lot of these are medical flights, some police helicopters
Speaker 1: there are there are all these commercial airliners up there.
Speaker 1: You run the risk of maybe crashing one, screwing one
Speaker 1: of those up if you go flying. There's also a
Speaker 1: private airfield where people are flying these little piper cubs
Speaker 1: up in that. Look. Look, I'm glad you can fly.
Speaker 1: I think it's really really cool. It's awesome. But just
Speaker 1: stay on the ground. Okay, no flying. Do you think
Speaker 1: you could do that? Neither could I imagine. Maybe you're
Speaker 1: the most hardcore fiscal hawk in the world. Maybe you're
Speaker 1: mortified by the national debt, you're mortified by spending. But boom,
Speaker 1: you just sat down in the desk in the Oval office.
Speaker 1: Behind the desk, I should say, you're not in the
Speaker 1: desk behind the desk in the Oval office. Now, hey,
Speaker 1: mister President cut spending. You have these you have these
Speaker 1: two different options sitting in front of you. Hey, I
Speaker 1: know you want to do a lot of stuff, but
Speaker 1: everything you want to do as president costs money, taxpayer money.
Speaker 1: Every single thing you want to do as president drives
Speaker 1: up the national debt, for instance. We'll make it about
Speaker 1: Trump because that's what this is going to be about
Speaker 1: in the end. Donald Trump is a big believer in
Speaker 1: building up the American military. Maybe you're kind of against
Speaker 1: that military industrial complex stuff. Maybe you love that, but
Speaker 1: that doesn't matter. We're talking about Trump here. During Trump's
Speaker 1: first term, he rebuilt in a lot of ways the
Speaker 1: United States Navy, and he has made that a huge
Speaker 1: priority in his second term. Donald Trump wants a stronger,
Speaker 1: bigger American military. Yeah, that costs a fortune. Donald Trump
Speaker 1: wants things like more border wall. Remember when they put
Speaker 1: out the call as soon as Donald Trump was elected,
Speaker 1: he wants to hire one hundred thousand Ice agents. You
Speaker 1: want to do the quick math on one hundred thousand
Speaker 1: ice agents. We'll call it seventy eighty thousand dollars a
Speaker 1: year for the next ten times years. You want to
Speaker 1: do the math on that, plus the training everything else.
Speaker 1: I'm not complaining, by the way, I want one hundred
Speaker 1: thousand Ice agents. I'm saying, you're Donald Trump. You want
Speaker 1: to do things. You don't get to do things by
Speaker 1: saving money. Donald Trump one has never been concerned about
Speaker 1: the debt. Two, he's the American president, his second and
Speaker 1: final term, trying to get his face on Mount Rushmore,
Speaker 1: trying to rebuild the military, trying to do this, trying
Speaker 1: to do that. Donald Trump is not going to be
Speaker 1: held back by the debt by deficits. He would never
Speaker 1: even consider it. That's he would never That's not how
Speaker 1: his mind works. He would never think in that way.
Speaker 1: All right, now we're not even too massy yet. Do
Speaker 1: you remember Bob Good? I bet you don't. You have
Speaker 1: to be a huge political nerd to remember Bob Good.
Speaker 1: But Bob Good was a congressman from Virginia. Great man,
Speaker 1: by the way, really good dude, Bob Good. He was
Speaker 1: the head of what is known as the House Freedom Caucus.
Speaker 1: The House Freedom Caucus. Now here's what you should know.
Speaker 1: The House Freedom Caucus are the most hardcore right wingers
Speaker 1: in the United States House of Representatives. They're the hard
Speaker 1: They're as close to an anti communist caucus as there
Speaker 1: is in the House of Representatives. I'm not saying they're
Speaker 1: all wonderful. I'm not saying they're all terrible, but the
Speaker 1: hard cores probably people like you, people like me. You
Speaker 1: would caucus in the Freedom Caucus. That's where you were
Speaker 1: probably find yourself very much the anti Rhino Caucus. Donald
Speaker 1: Trump hates the Freedom Caucus, hates them, hates them with
Speaker 1: the fire of a thousand sons. He hates the Freedom
Speaker 1: Caucus so much that Bob Good, who was the head
Speaker 1: of the House Freedom Caucus, donald Trump primaried him out
Speaker 1: of office. Bob Good is no longer in the House
Speaker 1: of Representatives because Donald Trump hates him and the Freedom
Speaker 1: Caucus so much. Have you ever seen a chip Roy
Speaker 1: for instance, he's part of that primary thing in Texas today,
Speaker 1: he's running for Texas Attorney General. Donald Trump loudly blasted
Speaker 1: chip Roy multiple times both barrels and said chip Roy
Speaker 1: should be primaried. A lot of people looked at that
Speaker 1: and got confused because chip Roy is a pretty hardcore
Speaker 1: right winger. What's going on? What's the deal there? A
Speaker 1: lot of people don't understand chip Roy's part of what
Speaker 1: the House Freedom Caucus. Now, what's Donald Trump's problem with
Speaker 1: the House Freedom Caucus? What's his issue specifically with them. Well,
Speaker 1: whenever Donald Trump is trying to get something done, any
Speaker 1: kind of a deal done, a bill done. You know
Speaker 1: how Donald Trump is deal maker, this deal maker that
Speaker 1: whenever he's trying to get something done, the House Freedom
Speaker 1: Caucus has been there repeatedly to say, ah, no, that's
Speaker 1: too much mone nope, so hold on, wait, that's spending
Speaker 1: too much money. Hold up, whoa, that's too much money.
Speaker 1: That stops. They are the proverbial for to Donald Trump.
Speaker 1: I want to clarify to Donald Trump, the House Freedom
Speaker 1: Caucus is the nag, the nag. You're at the gun show,
Speaker 1: you finally found that gun you always wanted, and then
Speaker 1: your wife's sitting there and saying, we can't afford that.
Speaker 1: This is such a stupid this is the kids, and
Speaker 1: that you finally found something you wanted and you've got
Speaker 1: your hands on it and you want to purchase it,
Speaker 1: and your wife is saying you can't do that. Very
Speaker 1: bad and you forgot me on Mother's Day that year.
Speaker 1: For Donald Trump, that's what the House Freedom Caucus is.
Speaker 1: Donald Trump does not want to be nagged about the
Speaker 1: debt and spending when he has the superpower of the
Speaker 1: presidency and wants to do things. And that brings me
Speaker 1: to the beginning and the end of the Trump Massy dispute.
Speaker 1: It is the Jesse Kelly Show on a magnificent, fantastic Tuesday.
Speaker 1: You can email us Jesse at Jesse kellyshow dot com
Speaker 1: talking about something spicy and offensive. Right now, it's the
Speaker 1: Trump Massy feud. And and yes, I'm going to address
Speaker 1: your your your questions about the whole Israel aspect of
Speaker 1: it and everything else. I get to that in a moment.
Speaker 1: So I brought up Trump. He doesn't care about debt,
Speaker 1: all those other things. And Trump hates the House Freedom Caucus,
Speaker 1: always has, always will. That's why primary Bob Good, that's
Speaker 1: why he called for a primary of Chip Roy. That
Speaker 1: Donald Trump as president does not want to be nagged
Speaker 1: at about the debt. Now, Donald Trump runs for office.
Speaker 1: Donald Trump runs on things like increasing the size of ice,
Speaker 1: the largest mass deportation in history, no taxes on tips,
Speaker 1: things like that. These were specific things Donald Trump repeated
Speaker 1: over and over and over again on the campaign trail promises,
Speaker 1: campaign promises. Let's call him what they were campaign promises.
Speaker 1: Donald Trump gets out there and says, I'm gonna give
Speaker 1: you this. I'm gonna give you this. I'm gonna give
Speaker 1: you this, all right. Donald Trump gets elected president, and
Speaker 1: Donald Trump knows what every single American president knows, whether
Speaker 1: he be a Republican or a Democrat. Once you are
Speaker 1: elected president, there is a honeymoon phase. Do you even remember?
Speaker 1: It seems like so long ago after we won in November,
Speaker 1: How great that feeling was. Everything's good, right, we won,
Speaker 1: the good guys won, the bad guys lost. All is well,
Speaker 1: everything is saved, everything is fine. Remember what that felt like.
Speaker 1: Even if you're still happy with everything, that's great. But
Speaker 1: it's not like the honeymoon phase was. There's the reason
Speaker 1: they call it the honeymoon phase. You get married and
Speaker 1: you had your wedding and that's kind of exhausting and
Speaker 1: it's a long, stressful night. But soon you and your
Speaker 1: honey you're you're on a beach in Hawaii, sipping my
Speaker 1: ties room service man. Life is good, wonderful. But eventually
Speaker 1: the honeymoon ends. You got to go back home. But
Speaker 1: it's not that it gets bad, but soon house has
Speaker 1: to get clean, the bill's got to get paid. Stress,
Speaker 1: we having kids with Ah the dog, but the mailman
Speaker 1: soon real life comes. Same thing happens with the new presidency.
Speaker 1: You have a honeymoon phase, and in that honeymoon phase,
Speaker 1: you generally get one. Every president gets this. You get
Speaker 1: one bill, you don't get ten. It's not how it works.
Speaker 1: The new president generally gets one bill. And it's honestly,
Speaker 1: it's kind of understood by all. Barack Obama's was Obamacare.
Speaker 1: Remember he didn't really get anything else passed. Joe Biden's
Speaker 1: was the Inflation Reduction Act really wasn't really much else.
Speaker 1: Presidents all get one. You better pick your one, and
Speaker 1: you better pick it wisely, because you probably don't get two.
Speaker 1: And if you happen to get two, you're dang sure
Speaker 1: not getting three. You get a bill. Congratulations, mister president,
Speaker 1: you won Now take your pick. Think of it like
Speaker 1: a genie. It's Aladdin. The genie comes out of the lamp.
Speaker 1: Instead of three wishes, you get one. Make it a
Speaker 1: good one. Donald Trump, he wanted his one to include
Speaker 1: everything that he had been promising on the campaign trail,
Speaker 1: the notes, taxes on tips, that, this or that. That's
Speaker 1: what Donald Trump wanted out of that big budgeting bill.
Speaker 1: Remember it wasn't even really a separate bill. It is
Speaker 1: because the majorities are so thin in the House and
Speaker 1: the Senate where we kind of had to cobble together
Speaker 1: every vote and we had to twist this rule and
Speaker 1: twist that role to even get it through. Donald Trump
Speaker 1: wanted everything that he had promised there, at least most
Speaker 1: of it on the campaign trill. He wanted that rolled
Speaker 1: up in that big budget thing. And Donald Trump, remember
Speaker 1: how loud he was about it. He basically said, what
Speaker 1: I just told you, These are the promises I made.
Speaker 1: Get my stuff in the bill. And as president, as
Speaker 1: the boss, as a big picture guy, Donald Trump is
Speaker 1: not going to do and he has never done this.
Speaker 1: He's not going to quibble about the details, and he's
Speaker 1: not going to concern himself with the debt or spending
Speaker 1: if as long as you get his stuff in this bill. Look,
Speaker 1: I promised X Y and Z. You take X, Y
Speaker 1: and Z, and you do whatever you have to do
Speaker 1: to get X Y and Z in the freaking bill
Speaker 1: and get the bill pass. Oh, but it'll take on
Speaker 1: the debt. I don't care about the debt. X Y
Speaker 1: and Z get it in the bill. That's how Donald
Speaker 1: Trump looked at it, and it's kind of understandable. Was
Speaker 1: it not. He knew he got one. They all get one.
Speaker 1: He won't get another. There's not gonna be another big bill.
Speaker 1: He can't even get the say back passed. There's not
Speaker 1: gonna be another big bill. He knew he was gonna
Speaker 1: get one. He got one. He said, I don't care
Speaker 1: about these other things like deficits and debts. Get the
Speaker 1: bill passed. That brings us to the other side of this,
Speaker 1: Thomas Massy Thomas Massey, and we'll get to the other
Speaker 1: things that came after this feud kicked off. I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna avoid any of those controversial things. In case you're wondering,
Speaker 1: I never have done that. But Thomas Massey has always
Speaker 1: been mister fiscal hawk. He really doesn't care. Republican Democrat,
Speaker 1: he doesn't care. He is never ever voted to take
Speaker 1: on more debt. I mean, there may be like a
Speaker 1: bill or something here, but you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: he's never that's not his thing. Thomas Massey in general
Speaker 1: could be counted on whatever bill comes up. He is
Speaker 1: going to expose the ridiculous expenditures in the bill, and
Speaker 1: he's going to loudly scream about it. And almost always,
Speaker 1: no matter what it is no matter who it is,
Speaker 1: Thomas Massey is going to vote against the bill. Now,
Speaker 1: let's get to the one big beautiful bill. That's the
Speaker 1: one that had everything in it. I know this. Look,
Speaker 1: this is inside baseball stuff. And I'm explaining how all
Speaker 1: this stuff happened and why it happened. Donald Trump, I
Speaker 1: think every day, multiple times a day, he was on
Speaker 1: social media, browbeating Republicans in the House and Senate. Get
Speaker 1: my freaking one big beautiful bill passed. He even branded
Speaker 1: it one big beautiful bill. Isn't that amazing? And of
Speaker 1: course that thing was. It had all sorts of horrible
Speaker 1: stuff in it, horrible stuff in it, but he didn't
Speaker 1: care because somebody included X, Y and Z, and he
Speaker 1: knew he got one. He knew that was his shot.
Speaker 1: Massey was loudly against it, and then what happened from
Speaker 1: there is really the fault of both men. Hang on