1 00:00:01,440 --> 00:00:07,080 Speaker 1: This is Tony Pike sincey three sixty about Cincinnati from Cincinnati, 2 00:00:07,320 --> 00:00:11,240 Speaker 1: sponsored in part by Skyline Chili. Stop by Skyline Chili 3 00:00:11,280 --> 00:00:14,600 Speaker 1: for a three way or cheese cony today. Feeling good, 4 00:00:14,840 --> 00:00:21,079 Speaker 1: It's Skyline time. This is ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station. 5 00:00:24,960 --> 00:00:31,120 Speaker 2: Good afternoon, Happy Wednesday. Welcome in. It is Cincy three sixty. 6 00:00:31,120 --> 00:00:33,559 Speaker 2: Thanks to our friends at Skyline Chili. Thank you for 7 00:00:33,680 --> 00:00:36,720 Speaker 2: listening on this the home of the Bengals. ESPN fifteen 8 00:00:36,960 --> 00:00:41,120 Speaker 2: thirty Cincinnati Sports Station. Our phone lines will be open 9 00:00:41,320 --> 00:00:45,400 Speaker 2: five one, three, seven, four nine, fifteen thirty. Sorry, they're 10 00:00:45,400 --> 00:00:47,080 Speaker 2: actually open right now, so you can give us a 11 00:00:47,080 --> 00:00:50,560 Speaker 2: call and we'll talk to you today. Outside of talking 12 00:00:50,560 --> 00:00:52,680 Speaker 2: to you today, we'll hear from Zach Taylor. He speaks 13 00:00:52,720 --> 00:00:57,320 Speaker 2: to the media today in his normal Wednesday press conference timeslot, 14 00:00:57,480 --> 00:01:00,560 Speaker 2: and we have two other press conferences that are happening 15 00:01:00,560 --> 00:01:02,600 Speaker 2: today that we'll get to an hour. Number three. The 16 00:01:02,600 --> 00:01:07,160 Speaker 2: Crossdown Shootout happens Friday night, and then Championship Weekend in 17 00:01:07,160 --> 00:01:09,880 Speaker 2: college football on Saturday, and then Bengals Bills on Sunday. 18 00:01:09,880 --> 00:01:13,000 Speaker 2: It's a huge sports weekend. But the Cintas Center will 19 00:01:13,000 --> 00:01:16,480 Speaker 2: be rocking on Friday night. We'll hear Richard Patino's comments 20 00:01:16,480 --> 00:01:20,480 Speaker 2: from today. You'll hear Wes Miller's comments from today. We'll 21 00:01:20,480 --> 00:01:24,080 Speaker 2: get those in the third hour. Can I interrupt of 22 00:01:24,120 --> 00:01:25,240 Speaker 2: today's show? Sure? 23 00:01:25,280 --> 00:01:28,399 Speaker 3: Because it feels like there's a lot of smoke and 24 00:01:28,480 --> 00:01:31,000 Speaker 3: I don't know if there's fire or not all. But 25 00:01:31,120 --> 00:01:34,280 Speaker 3: have you seen this about Kyle Schwarber? 26 00:01:34,840 --> 00:01:37,600 Speaker 2: I have from Ken Rosenthal. 27 00:01:37,160 --> 00:01:44,560 Speaker 3: In Rosenthal, John Hayman, there is the word serious being 28 00:01:44,640 --> 00:01:49,520 Speaker 3: thrown around about the Reds and their interest in Kyle Schwarber. 29 00:01:50,680 --> 00:01:57,560 Speaker 3: And there is a potential interest or there is interest 30 00:01:58,120 --> 00:02:04,640 Speaker 3: in a return to Cincinnati from Kyle Schwarber. Now, these 31 00:02:04,640 --> 00:02:08,200 Speaker 3: are big time baseball people. We talked about Jeff Passing 32 00:02:08,280 --> 00:02:12,240 Speaker 3: that these aren't rumors. We're talking about Ken Rosenthal, We're 33 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:15,280 Speaker 3: talking about John Hayman, people that know stuff in Major 34 00:02:15,320 --> 00:02:23,480 Speaker 3: League Baseball that keep linking the Reds to Kyle Schwarber. Now, 35 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:27,160 Speaker 3: there are plenty of other teams still interested, as they 36 00:02:27,200 --> 00:02:31,320 Speaker 3: should be the guy hitting nine thousand home runs. But 37 00:02:31,480 --> 00:02:34,480 Speaker 3: doesn't it feel like this is a more serious This 38 00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:36,480 Speaker 3: is more than kicking the tires type of thing. 39 00:02:36,520 --> 00:02:38,679 Speaker 2: That's what I was gonna say. I read the Ken 40 00:02:38,760 --> 00:02:45,000 Speaker 2: Rosenthal tweet, and I've seen other comments around it, and this, 41 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:48,440 Speaker 2: this to me is more than just like local Cincinnati 42 00:02:48,480 --> 00:02:52,560 Speaker 2: media saying it can happen. This to me feels like 43 00:02:53,600 --> 00:02:59,119 Speaker 2: national again. This it's one of the most sought after 44 00:02:59,160 --> 00:03:03,360 Speaker 2: free agents from this class without a doubt, so hearing 45 00:03:03,480 --> 00:03:08,720 Speaker 2: not it just it makes it feel like there's actually 46 00:03:08,760 --> 00:03:12,720 Speaker 2: a chance. And again, as you mentioned Austin, there are 47 00:03:13,120 --> 00:03:14,720 Speaker 2: other teams interested. 48 00:03:14,760 --> 00:03:18,800 Speaker 3: The Red Sox, the Orioles and how about John Hayman 49 00:03:18,919 --> 00:03:23,760 Speaker 3: reporting the Pittsburgh Pirates right among other teams. Could you 50 00:03:24,040 --> 00:03:29,080 Speaker 3: imagine what the vitriol would be from the Reds fan base, right, 51 00:03:29,680 --> 00:03:33,960 Speaker 3: if Kyle Schwarber was a Pittsburgh pirate, that would be 52 00:03:34,520 --> 00:03:38,720 Speaker 3: that might be the unforgivable sin for Mastelini's and for 53 00:03:38,800 --> 00:03:40,920 Speaker 3: Nick Crawl if that were to be the case. 54 00:03:41,600 --> 00:03:45,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, perr Ken Rosenthal, the Reds have serious interest. Schwarber 55 00:03:45,920 --> 00:03:50,960 Speaker 2: is interested in the potential homecoming. Its just imagine what 56 00:03:51,040 --> 00:03:52,480 Speaker 2: that does to the city and the fan base. 57 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:56,480 Speaker 3: I'm not gonna allow myself to get over I'm not 58 00:03:56,520 --> 00:03:59,880 Speaker 3: gonna be like convincing myself that, oh my gosh, Kyle's 59 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:02,440 Speaker 3: going to be a Red They're really gonna do it. 60 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:08,080 Speaker 3: But but I have to acknowledge that this is more than, oh, 61 00:04:08,120 --> 00:04:11,400 Speaker 3: the Reds are interested, There is mutual interest. It's more 62 00:04:11,440 --> 00:04:15,760 Speaker 3: than the Reds are serious. Like, what was it two 63 00:04:15,760 --> 00:04:19,360 Speaker 3: weeks ago? The Reds were interested in Devin Williams. That's 64 00:04:19,440 --> 00:04:21,920 Speaker 3: all we heard. Then he signs a three year, fifty 65 00:04:21,920 --> 00:04:24,279 Speaker 3: one million dollar deal with the New York Mets yesterday 66 00:04:24,360 --> 00:04:27,080 Speaker 3: or two days ago. Reds probably never really were in 67 00:04:27,120 --> 00:04:30,280 Speaker 3: the conversation for Devin Williams, but of course they were interested, 68 00:04:30,760 --> 00:04:34,560 Speaker 3: and that's what they're interested. Serious interest from both sides 69 00:04:35,600 --> 00:04:37,799 Speaker 3: makes it feel like it's a lot more possible. 70 00:04:37,920 --> 00:04:41,719 Speaker 2: Right, likely is not the word I used, but possible possible. 71 00:04:41,760 --> 00:04:44,000 Speaker 2: I think it's a good way to go. I like 72 00:04:44,120 --> 00:04:47,280 Speaker 2: that from the Reds. Yeah. Now, I don't expect much, 73 00:04:47,600 --> 00:04:50,160 Speaker 2: but damn it's nice to at least think of what 74 00:04:50,160 --> 00:04:50,560 Speaker 2: could be. 75 00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:52,520 Speaker 3: This is what I want to hear from my ball 76 00:04:52,560 --> 00:04:55,279 Speaker 3: club in the winter, exactly that they're serious about trying 77 00:04:55,279 --> 00:04:57,880 Speaker 3: to improve this team. Kyle Shwerber hit fifty six OH 78 00:04:58,040 --> 00:05:01,560 Speaker 3: runs last year, Three of them were against left hand 79 00:05:01,560 --> 00:05:04,400 Speaker 3: He's from Middletown. How much last year did we complain 80 00:05:04,920 --> 00:05:07,120 Speaker 3: about the fact that the Reds could not hit left 81 00:05:07,160 --> 00:05:07,960 Speaker 3: handed pitching. 82 00:05:08,080 --> 00:05:08,960 Speaker 2: They couldn't hit anything. 83 00:05:09,040 --> 00:05:11,839 Speaker 3: Kyle Schwarber could hit everything, including left hander. 84 00:05:11,920 --> 00:05:14,240 Speaker 2: And like in this day and age where you talk 85 00:05:14,279 --> 00:05:16,960 Speaker 2: about the DH and the expanded role, it's not like 86 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:19,080 Speaker 2: he's at the end of his career. No, he's got 87 00:05:19,080 --> 00:05:21,680 Speaker 2: plenty of time left and he's got plenty of power. 88 00:05:22,200 --> 00:05:24,080 Speaker 2: And oh, by the way, Austin, I think this gets 89 00:05:24,120 --> 00:05:29,240 Speaker 2: lost at times. This is a hitter friendly ballpark, regardless 90 00:05:29,279 --> 00:05:32,640 Speaker 2: of how the Reds play it. This is a ballpark 91 00:05:32,680 --> 00:05:34,920 Speaker 2: you can come to and hit home runs. Yeah. On 92 00:05:35,040 --> 00:05:37,599 Speaker 2: top of being from Middletown, that's probably also why there's 93 00:05:37,640 --> 00:05:39,440 Speaker 2: mutual interest because he probably thinks he can hit a 94 00:05:39,480 --> 00:05:40,680 Speaker 2: lot of home runs in Cincinnati. 95 00:05:40,760 --> 00:05:43,279 Speaker 3: He probably thinks he could hit one to Kentucky and 96 00:05:43,320 --> 00:05:44,159 Speaker 3: I bet he could. 97 00:05:44,279 --> 00:05:44,520 Speaker 4: Yep. 98 00:05:45,440 --> 00:05:48,880 Speaker 3: Could you imagine Elie de la Cruz protected in the 99 00:05:48,920 --> 00:05:50,279 Speaker 3: lineup by Kyle Schwarber. 100 00:05:50,360 --> 00:05:55,159 Speaker 2: I'd like to. That'd be pretty cool, would I'd like to? Man? 101 00:05:56,480 --> 00:05:57,760 Speaker 2: We would? 102 00:05:57,880 --> 00:06:01,240 Speaker 3: Okay, so let's let's talk lineups here now. Now I'm excited. 103 00:06:02,240 --> 00:06:05,440 Speaker 3: Would you lead off Ellie and go Schwarber in the 104 00:06:05,520 --> 00:06:09,039 Speaker 3: two hole probably? Or would you lead off Schwarber, which 105 00:06:09,080 --> 00:06:10,640 Speaker 3: is what the Phillies have been, and let Elli be 106 00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:13,760 Speaker 3: right behind Ellie in the probably lead off Schwarber. Okay, 107 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:16,080 Speaker 3: that's I think that's how I would play it. I 108 00:06:16,080 --> 00:06:18,719 Speaker 3: feel like it would be better for Elizardo de la 109 00:06:18,800 --> 00:06:21,599 Speaker 3: Cruzo if Kyle Schwarber was hitting behind him. 110 00:06:22,400 --> 00:06:26,039 Speaker 2: Man, this, see this, This is the problem. This is 111 00:06:26,040 --> 00:06:29,280 Speaker 2: a problem we are talking about. We're talking about lineups 112 00:06:29,520 --> 00:06:33,040 Speaker 2: based on interest, Yes, but my goodness, that's what happens 113 00:06:33,080 --> 00:06:34,119 Speaker 2: when separate hits. 114 00:06:34,279 --> 00:06:36,760 Speaker 3: And right as we say that, right as we come up, 115 00:06:37,080 --> 00:06:41,479 Speaker 3: as the show starts, left hander Anthony k Oh is 116 00:06:41,520 --> 00:06:45,440 Speaker 3: in agreement on a two year, twelve million dollar contract 117 00:06:45,640 --> 00:06:49,360 Speaker 3: with the Chicago White Sox. So if Jerry Reinsdorf is 118 00:06:49,400 --> 00:06:53,679 Speaker 3: spending money, yep, And Jerry reins Dwarf hates to spend money, 119 00:06:53,720 --> 00:06:57,320 Speaker 3: it's time. If he's spending money, let's do it. It's 120 00:06:57,360 --> 00:06:58,799 Speaker 3: time to go get Kyle Schwarber. 121 00:06:58,839 --> 00:06:59,000 Speaker 5: Bring. 122 00:06:59,120 --> 00:07:01,839 Speaker 3: If the Pirates are trying to build around Paul Skins, 123 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:05,000 Speaker 3: why can't we try to build around Hunter Green and 124 00:07:05,080 --> 00:07:07,560 Speaker 3: Elie de la Cruz and others. 125 00:07:07,680 --> 00:07:09,920 Speaker 2: I'm just excited thinking about what the lineup could look like. 126 00:07:11,240 --> 00:07:12,640 Speaker 2: And you go back to this Austin. I know we 127 00:07:12,720 --> 00:07:15,360 Speaker 2: use the term a lot in sport. There's not there's 128 00:07:15,400 --> 00:07:17,920 Speaker 2: not this much smoke with actually something being talked about. 129 00:07:17,960 --> 00:07:20,040 Speaker 2: Some's got to be on fire, right, There's there's a 130 00:07:20,080 --> 00:07:22,720 Speaker 2: fire somewhere. It's got to be some warmth now at 131 00:07:22,800 --> 00:07:25,960 Speaker 2: some point now this is I would be more than 132 00:07:25,960 --> 00:07:27,880 Speaker 2: happy to break in at any point today with breaking 133 00:07:27,920 --> 00:07:31,560 Speaker 2: news with Kyle Schwarper, there is news in college football. 134 00:07:32,440 --> 00:07:36,840 Speaker 2: Pete Thamil is reporting that Ohio State offensive coordinator Brian 135 00:07:36,880 --> 00:07:39,840 Speaker 2: Hartline he'd expected to become the next coach at South Florida. 136 00:07:40,120 --> 00:07:44,280 Speaker 2: Good for him. OSU's offensive court, off off offensive play caller. 137 00:07:45,160 --> 00:07:48,200 Speaker 2: He's the play caller for the Buck Houst. He's also 138 00:07:49,800 --> 00:07:53,840 Speaker 2: he's also built a I think a reputation around college football. 139 00:07:53,880 --> 00:07:56,520 Speaker 2: Is one of the best wide receiver developers in all 140 00:07:56,560 --> 00:07:58,320 Speaker 2: of the game. It's not one of the best, he 141 00:07:58,640 --> 00:08:01,080 Speaker 2: is the best. NFL he has been trying to poach 142 00:08:01,120 --> 00:08:04,000 Speaker 2: him for years to be a wide receiver. This is 143 00:08:04,040 --> 00:08:06,840 Speaker 2: a dude who played in the NFL with the Dolphins 144 00:08:06,920 --> 00:08:08,920 Speaker 2: and Browns for a good chunk of time. He was 145 00:08:08,960 --> 00:08:12,080 Speaker 2: a fourth round pick out of Ohio State in that 146 00:08:12,120 --> 00:08:14,680 Speaker 2: two thousand and five draft. He's an Ohio guy through 147 00:08:14,680 --> 00:08:17,240 Speaker 2: and through, born and raised up there, and Canton went 148 00:08:17,280 --> 00:08:20,880 Speaker 2: to Glen Oak High School. This is an awesome dude 149 00:08:21,280 --> 00:08:25,400 Speaker 2: who is like, I don't even think Ohio State fans 150 00:08:25,400 --> 00:08:28,600 Speaker 2: are upset. I think people were worried because it's National 151 00:08:28,680 --> 00:08:31,840 Speaker 2: Signing Day and they lost a wide receiver earlier this 152 00:08:31,920 --> 00:08:34,199 Speaker 2: morning who flipped a four star from Ohio State to 153 00:08:34,280 --> 00:08:38,560 Speaker 2: USC and Chris Henry Junior. We were all waiting his decision. 154 00:08:38,679 --> 00:08:42,120 Speaker 2: Thankfully he decided to stick with the Buckeyes. So Chris 155 00:08:42,120 --> 00:08:46,160 Speaker 2: Henry Jr. Is still coming to Ohio State. But Brian Hartline, 156 00:08:46,800 --> 00:08:53,120 Speaker 2: We've talked about it before, the unique job that is 157 00:08:53,679 --> 00:08:58,040 Speaker 2: South Florida. You are in a rich. 158 00:08:58,440 --> 00:09:02,120 Speaker 3: Rich, talent rich environment down there, and you've got dudes 159 00:09:02,160 --> 00:09:04,800 Speaker 3: that have to go to USF that think they should 160 00:09:04,800 --> 00:09:07,240 Speaker 3: be at Florida, that think they should be at Florida State, 161 00:09:07,480 --> 00:09:09,920 Speaker 3: that think they should be at one of the SEC schools, 162 00:09:10,360 --> 00:09:12,520 Speaker 3: and they come down there trying to prove a point. 163 00:09:12,920 --> 00:09:15,840 Speaker 3: And with the guy who develops and has the acumen 164 00:09:16,240 --> 00:09:19,040 Speaker 3: of one Brian Hartline and obviously his familiarity down there 165 00:09:19,080 --> 00:09:21,719 Speaker 3: with that part of the country in Florida, I mean 166 00:09:21,760 --> 00:09:24,079 Speaker 3: come on with it now, Brian Heartline, Good luck, man, 167 00:09:24,080 --> 00:09:26,160 Speaker 3: I'll be getting some USF gear. I love that guy. 168 00:09:26,240 --> 00:09:28,959 Speaker 2: And it's not like that as like a program now 169 00:09:29,080 --> 00:09:31,400 Speaker 2: void of talent, right, I mean they had a very 170 00:09:31,400 --> 00:09:33,400 Speaker 2: good year this year. Yeah, good enough that their coach 171 00:09:33,440 --> 00:09:36,040 Speaker 2: is now the coach at Auburn. Yeah, right, like that. 172 00:09:36,160 --> 00:09:40,040 Speaker 2: There's something there playing an NFL stadium. Yeah, there's something 173 00:09:40,120 --> 00:09:43,040 Speaker 2: there with what they're building. I mean South Florida this 174 00:09:43,120 --> 00:09:46,960 Speaker 2: year they pulled off a nice run. They beat Boise State, 175 00:09:46,960 --> 00:09:48,880 Speaker 2: who was ranked open the year they beat Florida when 176 00:09:48,880 --> 00:09:50,959 Speaker 2: they were ranked. They did fall to Miami at Florida, 177 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:54,200 Speaker 2: but I was a good South Florida team this year. 178 00:09:54,679 --> 00:09:56,679 Speaker 2: It makes me wonder. Austin and I know this is 179 00:09:56,720 --> 00:09:58,800 Speaker 2: a what if if you go back a couple of 180 00:09:58,880 --> 00:10:02,119 Speaker 2: years when the Bearcats made their move to Scott's Sodderfield, 181 00:10:02,880 --> 00:10:06,199 Speaker 2: do you think Heartline would have been interested then if 182 00:10:06,240 --> 00:10:08,200 Speaker 2: the Bearcats came knocking or do you think it was 183 00:10:08,280 --> 00:10:10,800 Speaker 2: just kind of the point in his tenure at Ohio 184 00:10:10,840 --> 00:10:12,720 Speaker 2: State where he's like, Okay, now I'm ready to move on. 185 00:10:13,280 --> 00:10:13,480 Speaker 4: Yeah. 186 00:10:13,640 --> 00:10:16,440 Speaker 3: I don't know that I would assume he would have 187 00:10:16,480 --> 00:10:20,319 Speaker 3: been interested. I mean It's not like if Scott Saderfield 188 00:10:20,360 --> 00:10:24,280 Speaker 3: gets fired today. The interest in the Bearcat program is 189 00:10:24,320 --> 00:10:26,400 Speaker 3: not nearly what it was when he was hired right 190 00:10:26,880 --> 00:10:29,280 Speaker 3: in the aftermath of Luke Fickle. It was as good 191 00:10:29,280 --> 00:10:32,040 Speaker 3: as it has ever been in terms of people wanting 192 00:10:32,080 --> 00:10:33,959 Speaker 3: to be there in the Big twelve looming and all 193 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:38,480 Speaker 3: of that now little different. It's not the same at all, 194 00:10:38,520 --> 00:10:42,120 Speaker 3: and obviously with the financial concerns as well. So yeah, 195 00:10:42,160 --> 00:10:43,920 Speaker 3: I would think I would have thought Brian Hartline would 196 00:10:43,920 --> 00:10:46,040 Speaker 3: have been pretty interested. We at that time. 197 00:10:46,240 --> 00:10:48,920 Speaker 2: We'll spend some time today on the college football playoff rankings. 198 00:10:48,920 --> 00:10:50,400 Speaker 2: We'll get to that an hour number two with our 199 00:10:50,760 --> 00:10:54,360 Speaker 2: second football in the NATI. There is austin some NFL 200 00:10:54,440 --> 00:10:58,080 Speaker 2: news as it pertains to the Hall of Fame and 201 00:10:58,880 --> 00:11:01,080 Speaker 2: friend of the Show and one of the all time 202 00:11:01,080 --> 00:11:04,160 Speaker 2: Bengal greats, Ken Anderson. Yes, Ken Anderson, I believe has 203 00:11:04,160 --> 00:11:08,240 Speaker 2: made it to the final three with the Senior Committee finalist. 204 00:11:08,520 --> 00:11:10,959 Speaker 2: He's made it to the final five. Yes, three of 205 00:11:11,040 --> 00:11:15,160 Speaker 2: Belichick Robert Kraft are two of those, and then Roger 206 00:11:15,280 --> 00:11:19,120 Speaker 2: Craig and Elsie Greenwood alongside of Ken Anderson. 207 00:11:19,200 --> 00:11:23,880 Speaker 3: So five of those finalists, only a maximum of three, 208 00:11:24,360 --> 00:11:26,200 Speaker 3: and you would think Belichick and Craft would be in. 209 00:11:26,440 --> 00:11:28,840 Speaker 3: I would think Belichick would be in without a doubt. 210 00:11:29,120 --> 00:11:31,280 Speaker 3: I don't know if any of those others would be 211 00:11:31,280 --> 00:11:33,960 Speaker 3: guaranteed to get in. I do think it would be 212 00:11:34,040 --> 00:11:36,640 Speaker 3: hilarious if Belichick and Craft got in on the same 213 00:11:36,720 --> 00:11:38,840 Speaker 3: year and they would be forced to stand up there 214 00:11:38,880 --> 00:11:41,479 Speaker 3: next to each other. That I think would be hilarious. 215 00:11:42,920 --> 00:11:45,880 Speaker 3: But yeah, good for Ken Anderson to be a senior finalist. 216 00:11:46,120 --> 00:11:48,000 Speaker 3: What we've said it a thousand times. He deserves it. 217 00:11:48,080 --> 00:11:49,079 Speaker 2: Yeah, and. 218 00:11:50,400 --> 00:11:53,800 Speaker 3: Each finalist has to get an eighty percent approval vote 219 00:11:53,840 --> 00:11:57,640 Speaker 3: by the full selection committee ahead of Super Bowl sixty, 220 00:11:57,720 --> 00:12:00,000 Speaker 3: and that will be announced I think the Saturday before 221 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:04,520 Speaker 3: for the Super Bowl in Santa Clara, where Super Bowl 222 00:12:04,520 --> 00:12:05,400 Speaker 3: sixty is being held. 223 00:12:06,240 --> 00:12:09,839 Speaker 2: College football Signing Day today doesn't feel like it carries 224 00:12:09,880 --> 00:12:11,720 Speaker 2: the same way as it used to. Has the Bearcats 225 00:12:11,720 --> 00:12:14,160 Speaker 2: signed anybody they did? I just don't know much about 226 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:17,079 Speaker 2: him yet. Okay, Scott Sudderfield, we'll talk later today, SCOO. 227 00:12:17,960 --> 00:12:20,880 Speaker 2: That's kind of when we're off air, though, So maybe 228 00:12:20,880 --> 00:12:25,000 Speaker 2: Mole have something on college football signing Day. College basketball. 229 00:12:25,280 --> 00:12:27,800 Speaker 2: It's a good night last night of action the college 230 00:12:27,840 --> 00:12:30,439 Speaker 2: basketball world. Duke led by twelve at half. They needed 231 00:12:30,440 --> 00:12:33,400 Speaker 2: a three with about twenty seconds left to beat Florida 232 00:12:33,480 --> 00:12:36,040 Speaker 2: sixty seven to sixty six. Yukon went on the road 233 00:12:36,080 --> 00:12:40,800 Speaker 2: and beat Kansas sixty one to fifty six. Michigan State 234 00:12:40,880 --> 00:12:44,240 Speaker 2: looks really good. They beat Iowa Michigan State. Already this 235 00:12:44,320 --> 00:12:47,640 Speaker 2: year Austin with Tom Izzo has beaten number fourteen, Arkansas, 236 00:12:47,720 --> 00:12:51,120 Speaker 2: number twelve, Kentucky number sixteen at North Carolina. Tom Mizzo 237 00:12:51,200 --> 00:12:54,080 Speaker 2: just picking up right where he always leaves off. Also, 238 00:12:54,240 --> 00:12:58,240 Speaker 2: last night, Syracuse upsets previously undefeated Tennessee. And you want 239 00:12:58,240 --> 00:13:01,480 Speaker 2: to talk about some pan and I can sense it 240 00:13:01,520 --> 00:13:05,720 Speaker 2: in Big Blue Nation. Now Austin, Kentucky's five and three Ernie, 241 00:13:06,080 --> 00:13:12,080 Speaker 2: They're wins Nichols, val Parreiso, Eastern Illinois, Loyola, Tennessee Tech 242 00:13:12,400 --> 00:13:17,240 Speaker 2: their losses Louisville, Michigan State, and North Carolina. Last night, 243 00:13:17,280 --> 00:13:20,680 Speaker 2: North Carolina goes into rupp Arena and beats the Kentucky 244 00:13:20,679 --> 00:13:25,200 Speaker 2: Wildcats sixty seven to sixty four. It now gets no 245 00:13:25,320 --> 00:13:29,400 Speaker 2: easier Austin for Kentucky, as they will now turn their 246 00:13:29,480 --> 00:13:35,040 Speaker 2: site to Friday when they take on the Gonzaga Bulldogs 247 00:13:35,600 --> 00:13:37,520 Speaker 2: Number eleven in the country at Ropperina. 248 00:13:37,720 --> 00:13:41,880 Speaker 3: A lot of ranked games still on that Kentucky schedule, YEP, Indiana, 249 00:13:42,160 --> 00:13:48,520 Speaker 3: Saint John's obviously, Alabama, Tennessee, Vanderbilt, Arkansas. It's a lot 250 00:13:48,840 --> 00:13:52,559 Speaker 3: Auburn is ranked. This a tough loss. Who would you 251 00:13:52,679 --> 00:13:58,600 Speaker 3: rather have lead in your program? Oh, Mark Poper, west Miller, Well, 252 00:13:58,640 --> 00:14:00,360 Speaker 3: west Miller. I'd probably pick Richard. 253 00:14:00,360 --> 00:14:04,520 Speaker 2: But you know, the Pope thing's interesting because last year 254 00:14:04,520 --> 00:14:07,680 Speaker 2: they had like an ungodly amount of wins vers ranked teams. Yeah, 255 00:14:07,800 --> 00:14:09,320 Speaker 2: they just haven't been able to do it this year. 256 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:13,680 Speaker 2: But I know from friends of mine that root for Kentucky, 257 00:14:14,200 --> 00:14:16,040 Speaker 2: they spend a lot of money on that roster this 258 00:14:16,160 --> 00:14:20,040 Speaker 2: year and they are expecting wins sooner rather than later. 259 00:14:20,080 --> 00:14:23,680 Speaker 2: Speaking of Wes Miller, the shootout happens on Friday, Austin. 260 00:14:23,760 --> 00:14:26,200 Speaker 2: Is there a lack of buzz around the shootout to you? 261 00:14:26,840 --> 00:14:29,040 Speaker 2: It feels like it to me, Yeah, I would say so. 262 00:14:29,120 --> 00:14:31,160 Speaker 3: I mean from my perspective, like I don't have a 263 00:14:31,200 --> 00:14:33,840 Speaker 3: dog in the fight, And there's been years in the 264 00:14:33,880 --> 00:14:36,600 Speaker 3: past where I've been really excited for the shootout just 265 00:14:36,640 --> 00:14:40,160 Speaker 3: because of what it meant, and I think just because 266 00:14:40,200 --> 00:14:44,120 Speaker 3: of where Cincinnati Athletics as a whole is at right now. Yes, 267 00:14:44,360 --> 00:14:50,920 Speaker 3: and Xavier with the understandable tumultuous turnover of of Benedict 268 00:14:50,960 --> 00:14:54,840 Speaker 3: Sean Miller. I don't know that there's that much juice 269 00:14:54,840 --> 00:14:57,160 Speaker 3: around it. To me, the biggest story is what happens 270 00:14:57,240 --> 00:14:58,320 Speaker 3: if the Bearcats lose. 271 00:14:58,400 --> 00:15:02,920 Speaker 2: Yeah with Wes Miller, and I do think the timing 272 00:15:02,960 --> 00:15:06,240 Speaker 2: of the game makes it hard. This is college football 273 00:15:06,320 --> 00:15:09,040 Speaker 2: Championship weekend, and it's not just on Saturday. There's big 274 00:15:09,080 --> 00:15:11,920 Speaker 2: games on Friday night as well. Those go into Saturday. 275 00:15:12,280 --> 00:15:16,000 Speaker 2: You've also got the the background of Bengals Bills on Sunday. 276 00:15:16,640 --> 00:15:20,600 Speaker 2: It is timing wise hard and both teams have just 277 00:15:20,640 --> 00:15:23,120 Speaker 2: struggled early in the season. It takes away now again, 278 00:15:23,200 --> 00:15:26,440 Speaker 2: I expect Friday night comes and the Centas Center sold 279 00:15:26,440 --> 00:15:28,880 Speaker 2: out and it's rocking, and you tune in to watch 280 00:15:28,880 --> 00:15:30,920 Speaker 2: the game, and I think there will be an uptick 281 00:15:30,960 --> 00:15:34,120 Speaker 2: in passion and energy. I do think that, but it's 282 00:15:34,160 --> 00:15:36,360 Speaker 2: just different. The lead up to the game feels different 283 00:15:36,360 --> 00:15:38,840 Speaker 2: than what it does in recent years. On this side 284 00:15:39,240 --> 00:15:43,280 Speaker 2: of things. Have you seen the Ken palm prediction? No, 285 00:15:44,280 --> 00:15:48,640 Speaker 2: Ken Palm predicts a final score of seventy two to 286 00:15:48,680 --> 00:15:53,560 Speaker 2: seventy in the Crosstown shootout with Xavier winning. I mean 287 00:15:53,560 --> 00:15:57,040 Speaker 2: that wouldn't surprise me. The which is crazy to think 288 00:15:57,040 --> 00:16:00,000 Speaker 2: about where this was three weeks ago. I know unbelieved. 289 00:16:00,160 --> 00:16:03,400 Speaker 3: I was telling Moe the other day like the I 290 00:16:03,400 --> 00:16:05,280 Speaker 3: think we talked about this on the air too, the 291 00:16:05,320 --> 00:16:07,520 Speaker 3: two weeks leading up to the shootout. Every year of 292 00:16:07,560 --> 00:16:09,600 Speaker 3: the exact scene doesn't matter when it's played. 293 00:16:09,400 --> 00:16:12,680 Speaker 2: Yep, don't matter who's coaching either, matter who's coaching, who's 294 00:16:12,720 --> 00:16:18,440 Speaker 2: coaching or play, it always goes the same way. But 295 00:16:18,560 --> 00:16:20,160 Speaker 2: that happens on Friday night, and we'll talk about it. 296 00:16:20,200 --> 00:16:22,560 Speaker 2: We'll hear again from Richard Patino and West Miller today 297 00:16:22,920 --> 00:16:25,320 Speaker 2: in the third hour of the show. Zach Taylor will 298 00:16:25,360 --> 00:16:28,000 Speaker 2: hear him at one o'clock this afternoon. We've already got 299 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:30,880 Speaker 2: phone calls to get to. We've got Bengals to talk about, 300 00:16:30,960 --> 00:16:35,960 Speaker 2: and again a wide open AFC conference will dive into 301 00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:38,960 Speaker 2: the Bengals. The Bengals when we come back on this 302 00:16:39,040 --> 00:16:43,360 Speaker 2: the Home of the Bengals ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati sports station. 303 00:16:44,320 --> 00:16:47,560 Speaker 6: This week, though, Hey, it's miss anything for my show, 304 00:16:48,080 --> 00:16:51,080 Speaker 6: Get what You missed on the iHeartRadio app or on 305 00:16:51,120 --> 00:16:54,640 Speaker 6: the podcast page of ESPN fifteen thirty dot com. 306 00:16:55,040 --> 00:16:58,400 Speaker 1: This is Football in the NATI, brought to you by 307 00:16:58,840 --> 00:17:03,760 Speaker 1: Hey Duran Wind Company on ESPN fifteen thirty in the 308 00:17:03,840 --> 00:17:06,840 Speaker 1: official Bengals. 309 00:17:11,920 --> 00:17:15,480 Speaker 2: It's just the sound of football. It's crazy, Austin, how 310 00:17:15,560 --> 00:17:18,240 Speaker 2: just one win and Joe Burrow coming back completely changes 311 00:17:18,280 --> 00:17:21,399 Speaker 2: a feel about a team and a season. This SINCY 312 00:17:21,480 --> 00:17:24,080 Speaker 2: three sixty thanks to Skyline Chile. Thank you for listening 313 00:17:24,119 --> 00:17:26,240 Speaker 2: in five one, three, seven, four, nine, fifteen thirty. We'll 314 00:17:26,240 --> 00:17:29,280 Speaker 2: get to your phone calls in the next segment, but 315 00:17:29,359 --> 00:17:35,720 Speaker 2: for now, Austin with the Cincinnati Bengals and with the 316 00:17:35,760 --> 00:17:39,159 Speaker 2: openness of the AFC as a whole, the parody that 317 00:17:39,240 --> 00:17:42,280 Speaker 2: is surrounding this league. You know, Moe hit on it 318 00:17:42,320 --> 00:17:45,960 Speaker 2: earlier in the week on Monday. There was a chance 319 00:17:46,040 --> 00:17:50,440 Speaker 2: this year, the first time they played, where you could 320 00:17:50,480 --> 00:17:52,760 Speaker 2: make the argument the Pittsburgh Steelers had a chance to 321 00:17:52,800 --> 00:17:56,320 Speaker 2: put the Bengals away. They didn't. You could make the 322 00:17:56,440 --> 00:17:59,160 Speaker 2: argument that the Baltimore Ravens had a chance on Thursday 323 00:17:59,280 --> 00:18:03,680 Speaker 2: to put the Banks away and eliminate them from contention. 324 00:18:04,640 --> 00:18:06,800 Speaker 2: Can you make the same argument for the Buffalo Bills, 325 00:18:06,840 --> 00:18:09,000 Speaker 2: Because let's make no mistake about this, and this has 326 00:18:09,040 --> 00:18:15,080 Speaker 2: been talked about across all platforms right now. I believe 327 00:18:15,119 --> 00:18:19,120 Speaker 2: it was. Bruce Arians was on Pat McAfee show earlier 328 00:18:19,160 --> 00:18:21,320 Speaker 2: in the week and he said, looking at the bengals 329 00:18:21,400 --> 00:18:24,199 Speaker 2: remaining schedule, if the Bengals can beat the Bills, I 330 00:18:24,320 --> 00:18:25,919 Speaker 2: like their schedule the rest of the way, I can 331 00:18:25,960 --> 00:18:28,040 Speaker 2: see them running the table and getting in the playoffs. 332 00:18:28,040 --> 00:18:30,120 Speaker 2: When asked if the Borrow if the Bengals could win 333 00:18:30,200 --> 00:18:35,959 Speaker 2: in the playoffs, Bruce Arian said, with Joe b Hell, yeah, 334 00:18:36,040 --> 00:18:39,960 Speaker 2: if you're the Buffalo Bills. Austin. Is there conversation around 335 00:18:40,040 --> 00:18:43,480 Speaker 2: Orchard Park this week about not only winning to win 336 00:18:43,520 --> 00:18:46,840 Speaker 2: the game, but winning to try to eliminate having to 337 00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:48,440 Speaker 2: potentially see Joe Burrow again. 338 00:18:48,800 --> 00:18:51,080 Speaker 3: I don't think they think like that right now. I 339 00:18:51,119 --> 00:18:55,479 Speaker 3: think it's like, hey, let's beat the Bengals. Like I 340 00:18:55,520 --> 00:18:58,800 Speaker 3: really don't think NFL teams at this point in the 341 00:18:58,840 --> 00:19:02,760 Speaker 3: season are are like, yeah, we gotta we gotta absolutely 342 00:19:03,359 --> 00:19:05,760 Speaker 3: end Joe Burrow right now. We've got to end the 343 00:19:05,760 --> 00:19:06,920 Speaker 3: Bengals hopes right now. 344 00:19:06,960 --> 00:19:07,080 Speaker 5: Now. 345 00:19:07,200 --> 00:19:07,880 Speaker 2: Want to get going. 346 00:19:08,040 --> 00:19:11,960 Speaker 3: Maybe the AFC North thinks that way, but I don't 347 00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:15,600 Speaker 3: know that the Buffalo Bills necessarily necessarily think that way. 348 00:19:15,760 --> 00:19:18,520 Speaker 3: I think they're trying to catch the New England Patriots. 349 00:19:18,600 --> 00:19:21,680 Speaker 3: Do you believe they still have another game against New England? Sure, 350 00:19:21,840 --> 00:19:25,600 Speaker 3: games against the Jets and the Browns and Philadelphia, who 351 00:19:25,600 --> 00:19:28,280 Speaker 3: doesn't look like they did at the beginning of the 352 00:19:28,359 --> 00:19:30,920 Speaker 3: year at all last year. So Buffalo is probably thinking, 353 00:19:31,240 --> 00:19:34,480 Speaker 3: we have a chance to win the AFC East if 354 00:19:34,520 --> 00:19:35,359 Speaker 3: we run the table. 355 00:19:35,560 --> 00:19:39,199 Speaker 2: Do you think that if the Bengals get by the 356 00:19:39,240 --> 00:19:42,720 Speaker 2: Bills on Sunday that they will be favorites in each 357 00:19:42,720 --> 00:19:47,320 Speaker 2: of the remaining four games? They'll be favorites at home 358 00:19:47,320 --> 00:19:50,280 Speaker 2: against Baltimore, right, I don't know that. I would say that. 359 00:19:50,800 --> 00:19:54,920 Speaker 3: It maybe depends what Baltimore looks like from an injury standpoint. 360 00:19:55,160 --> 00:19:57,320 Speaker 2: They'll be favorite against Arizona and Cleveland at home, they 361 00:19:57,320 --> 00:19:59,320 Speaker 2: will What about the Dolphins game, which. 362 00:19:59,160 --> 00:20:03,440 Speaker 3: By the way, that clear Eveland game could feature Deshaun 363 00:20:03,520 --> 00:20:04,600 Speaker 3: Watson at quarterback. 364 00:20:04,680 --> 00:20:06,320 Speaker 2: I saw that they opened up his twenty one day 365 00:20:06,320 --> 00:20:08,440 Speaker 2: window today. He sure did. Wow. 366 00:20:09,320 --> 00:20:12,200 Speaker 3: Miami is interesting. They're playing a lot better football right now. 367 00:20:12,200 --> 00:20:14,439 Speaker 3: They're not great. I mean, they struggled with New Orleans 368 00:20:14,480 --> 00:20:14,960 Speaker 3: last week. 369 00:20:15,040 --> 00:20:17,440 Speaker 2: They did, but they have they've got some good wins. 370 00:20:17,440 --> 00:20:20,399 Speaker 2: I mean, they beat Buffalo in this three game stretch, 371 00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:23,200 Speaker 2: they beat the Commanders in this three game stretch, they 372 00:20:23,240 --> 00:20:25,600 Speaker 2: get to play the Jets and the Steelers before the Bengals. 373 00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:27,600 Speaker 2: I mean, you could be looking at a better I 374 00:20:27,640 --> 00:20:29,120 Speaker 2: mean you could be looking at a seven and seven 375 00:20:29,119 --> 00:20:30,200 Speaker 2: Dolphins team in that week. 376 00:20:30,280 --> 00:20:33,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, which makes the idea of that game potentially being 377 00:20:33,440 --> 00:20:37,119 Speaker 3: flexed really interesting. I think it's six days from now 378 00:20:37,560 --> 00:20:40,199 Speaker 3: when they have to decide, so they will at least 379 00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:42,440 Speaker 3: know the result of that Jets game. 380 00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:46,280 Speaker 2: And obviously what the Bengals have done. Yeah, what the 381 00:20:46,280 --> 00:20:46,960 Speaker 2: Bengals have done. 382 00:20:47,040 --> 00:20:52,800 Speaker 3: But yeah, no, I think at home road as of now, 383 00:20:53,040 --> 00:20:56,879 Speaker 3: night game, I'm gonna guess the Bengals would be a 384 00:20:56,880 --> 00:20:59,120 Speaker 3: slight favorite if they beat Buffalo. 385 00:21:01,320 --> 00:21:05,920 Speaker 2: Do you believe in Cleveland that Deshaun Watson plays this year? 386 00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:10,160 Speaker 3: Yes, I do. I think he will play. I don't 387 00:21:10,160 --> 00:21:13,400 Speaker 3: storyline that I don't believe in the I do think 388 00:21:13,440 --> 00:21:14,080 Speaker 3: he will play. 389 00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:17,440 Speaker 2: Unbelievable, just from some of the rumblings I've heard around 390 00:21:17,520 --> 00:21:19,560 Speaker 2: there are there is other news in the NFL right now. 391 00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:23,720 Speaker 2: The Steelers moved on from Darius Slay yesterday. They added 392 00:21:23,720 --> 00:21:26,679 Speaker 2: Adam Feelin yesterday. So the Steelers are just gonna keep 393 00:21:26,680 --> 00:21:27,280 Speaker 2: getting older. 394 00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:31,040 Speaker 3: Did you see the tweet that went viral Sunday with 395 00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:36,119 Speaker 3: Aaron Rodgers. It was about Mike Tomlin. Oh, and it 396 00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:39,240 Speaker 3: said Mike Tomlin's gonna say something dumb like we can't 397 00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:43,000 Speaker 3: eat soup with spoon or we can't eat soup with forks. 398 00:21:43,040 --> 00:21:45,360 Speaker 3: We got to use spoons. And then the Steelers will 399 00:21:45,359 --> 00:21:48,360 Speaker 3: sign a twenty eighteen pro bowler. That's exactly what they 400 00:21:48,359 --> 00:21:50,040 Speaker 3: did yep with Adam Thieler. 401 00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:53,800 Speaker 2: My favorite part going around right now for the Pittsburgh 402 00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:56,400 Speaker 2: Steelers is the screen like the screenshot of Aaron Rodgers 403 00:21:56,440 --> 00:21:59,160 Speaker 2: with the band aid on his nose and said, Aaron 404 00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:02,160 Speaker 2: Rodgers looked like he just tried to rob Kevin McAllister's house, 405 00:22:03,280 --> 00:22:07,639 Speaker 2: and as a whole, as a home alone fan, I 406 00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:09,359 Speaker 2: cannot get it out of my head. And now there's 407 00:22:09,400 --> 00:22:11,679 Speaker 2: like all the screen shots or they people have like 408 00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:14,480 Speaker 2: photoshopped him on Marv's body. I love it, but it 409 00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:18,080 Speaker 2: looks like, yes, Aaron Rodgers, outside of playing on Sundays, 410 00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:19,840 Speaker 2: just tried to rob Kevin McAllister's house. 411 00:22:20,080 --> 00:22:22,199 Speaker 3: Rogers would say, that's what it's felt like playing for 412 00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:24,680 Speaker 3: the Steelers this year. Probably all the stuff that Marv 413 00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:27,520 Speaker 3: went through in Uh either either movie? 414 00:22:27,640 --> 00:22:30,920 Speaker 2: Pick one? Do you watch the ones after the second one? Nope? 415 00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:34,880 Speaker 2: Hell no, Yeah no, you can't watch today. Like we're 416 00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:37,120 Speaker 2: nearing the point where we talk on this show about 417 00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:40,480 Speaker 2: Christmas movies, uh huh. Because there are things like that 418 00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:43,960 Speaker 2: I appreciate on this platform, Like I appreciate having an 419 00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:47,639 Speaker 2: opinion every day, and I appreciate the fact that others 420 00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:50,399 Speaker 2: can call in and have different opinions than mine and 421 00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:52,960 Speaker 2: we could talk back and forth through those. That's not 422 00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:55,560 Speaker 2: the case when it comes to Christmas movies. It's Christmas 423 00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:58,439 Speaker 2: vacation and it's nothing else. And if you oppose that, 424 00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:01,920 Speaker 2: then I will fight you on that. Whereas other things 425 00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:03,560 Speaker 2: you could tell me about the Bengals or the bear 426 00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:06,400 Speaker 2: Cats or anything else, and I would listen and take 427 00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:08,760 Speaker 2: your opinion and move on from it. You're gonna tell 428 00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:10,840 Speaker 2: me Christmas vacations not at the top, then we're gonna 429 00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:15,000 Speaker 2: have issues. You're wearing your shirt today. Yeah, we got 430 00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:17,840 Speaker 2: a Christmas party here at the office today. Big Christmas 431 00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:22,560 Speaker 2: party happening here today the Kenwick Studios. Other things going on. 432 00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:23,600 Speaker 2: Evan McPherson. 433 00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:26,960 Speaker 3: Mack has been named the AFC Special Teams Player of 434 00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:30,000 Speaker 3: the Week. McPherson, of course six for six in field 435 00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:34,159 Speaker 3: goals in Baltimore, two extra points scored twenty points for Cincinnati. 436 00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:38,120 Speaker 3: Bengals also opened up the practice window for linebacker Shaka Hayward. 437 00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:41,560 Speaker 3: Come on, Shaka to return, so he gets a roster exemption. 438 00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:43,280 Speaker 3: The Bengals can activate him at any point over the 439 00:23:43,359 --> 00:23:46,520 Speaker 3: next twenty one days. He suffered I believe a fibula 440 00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:50,199 Speaker 3: injury earlier this year, but looks like he's on the 441 00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:54,960 Speaker 3: come up. Bengals are practicing right now if I'm not mistaken, 442 00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:58,080 Speaker 3: so waiting to see some more from that. We'll hear 443 00:23:58,080 --> 00:24:01,080 Speaker 3: from Zach Taylor or maybe they'll do it later this afternoon. 444 00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:03,480 Speaker 3: The schedule has screwed me up over the last two 445 00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:06,000 Speaker 3: weeks with the Thursday game, but Zach coming up at 446 00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:06,520 Speaker 3: one o'clock. 447 00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:09,600 Speaker 2: What'll we expecting from Zach today? Obviously, I think it's 448 00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:12,440 Speaker 2: safe to say Trey Hendrickson's not going to play this week. Yeah, 449 00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:16,280 Speaker 2: which is interesting because Joey Bosa left Buffalo's last game 450 00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:19,000 Speaker 2: against the Steelers with the hamstring injury. Bosa leads the 451 00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:21,760 Speaker 2: Bills in sacks. It's already a banged up Bills team 452 00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:24,560 Speaker 2: on the offensive side of the ball. No, Joey Bosa 453 00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:27,520 Speaker 2: would be significant for the Bengals. On Sunday, what do 454 00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:30,200 Speaker 2: you feel about T Higgins and his availability this week? 455 00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:32,160 Speaker 2: I thought it was interesting. 456 00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:36,160 Speaker 3: I believe I read from Jay Morrison the other day 457 00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:39,240 Speaker 3: that the way he wrote it was that T Higgins 458 00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:41,719 Speaker 3: is expected to come back. Yeah, so the fact that 459 00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:43,840 Speaker 3: he was out there for that walk through Monday, and 460 00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:45,920 Speaker 3: I guess the mini by probably helped a little bit. 461 00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:47,480 Speaker 2: I'm surprised by that. 462 00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:51,160 Speaker 3: I thought, just based off the way that it looks 463 00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:53,359 Speaker 3: like a bad one, it might be a couple of weeks. 464 00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:57,400 Speaker 2: So hopefully there's some more indication on that, and if 465 00:24:57,440 --> 00:24:59,840 Speaker 2: there's would be obviously massive to get him back. 466 00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:04,159 Speaker 3: Sean McDermott did say about Joey Bosa today is that 467 00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:09,800 Speaker 3: he's weak to weak. Okay, so potentially don't know what 468 00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:12,520 Speaker 3: that means. I mean McDermott and Zach Taylor are having 469 00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:17,960 Speaker 3: a great job, doing a great job with the coach speak. Yeah, 470 00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:21,600 Speaker 3: no new news on Kyle Schwarber, not that yet. How 471 00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:23,960 Speaker 3: about this This quote from Sean McDermott all right, you 472 00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:25,840 Speaker 3: asked what was going through the minds of Buffalo. 473 00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:27,120 Speaker 2: Yep. Quote. 474 00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:29,960 Speaker 3: I don't think we can afford to be inconsistent. 475 00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:31,080 Speaker 2: Not now. 476 00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:35,000 Speaker 3: Our backs are against the wall. That's the way it is. 477 00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:37,560 Speaker 3: That's where we're all aware of it. That's where we're going. 478 00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:39,000 Speaker 3: Eight and four backs against the wall. 479 00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:44,399 Speaker 2: That thing. Okay, okay, I'll buy Oh, hold on, we 480 00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:46,119 Speaker 2: got to tweet here from the Reds. Let's see what it's. 481 00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:50,040 Speaker 3: Oh ah, Spencer Steer and Rhet Louder are going to 482 00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:51,240 Speaker 3: be on the Red's Hot Stove League. 483 00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:54,679 Speaker 2: That's all I wanted. One Reds thing real quick. We'll 484 00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:56,359 Speaker 2: break and get to these phone calls. Last night I 485 00:25:56,359 --> 00:25:58,639 Speaker 2: had a chance to do sports talk down the hall. Yeah, 486 00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:00,959 Speaker 2: and I sounded good. I have our guy, Michael Anderson 487 00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:02,639 Speaker 2: reached out to me yesterday. He said, hey, you know, 488 00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:05,919 Speaker 2: today's Giving Tuesday and the Reds Community Fund is matching 489 00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:10,840 Speaker 2: donations as they're trying to raise funds for the community Fund. 490 00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:13,920 Speaker 2: I got a follow up message from Michael Anderson, thanks 491 00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:16,640 Speaker 2: again for the opportunity. The Red's Community Fund raised over 492 00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:21,280 Speaker 2: sixteen thousand dollars yesterday. That's awesome. So obviously with more 493 00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:25,040 Speaker 2: donations coming in, but awesome stuff with the Red Community 494 00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:26,800 Speaker 2: Fund and so many good things that they do. We'll 495 00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:28,680 Speaker 2: take ourselves a break. We'll come back. We'll get to 496 00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:30,439 Speaker 2: your phone calls next. On the Home of the Bengals, 497 00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:32,520 Speaker 2: ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati Sports Station. 498 00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:37,520 Speaker 1: You've been listening to football in the NATI on ESPN 499 00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:43,720 Speaker 1: fifteen thirty, the official home of the Cincinnati Bengals. 500 00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:48,320 Speaker 7: This is Dan Horde joined Dave Lapoman me for Bengals 501 00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:51,400 Speaker 7: game plan tonight starting at six on the official home 502 00:26:51,440 --> 00:27:01,760 Speaker 7: of the Bengals, Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen thirty. 503 00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:07,360 Speaker 2: Welcome back ESBN fifteen thirty. It's sincey three sixty thanks 504 00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:09,840 Speaker 2: to our friends at Skyline Chili. Anytime you're feeling good 505 00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:13,680 Speaker 2: and hungry, it's Skyline time. It is a tradition Austen 506 00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:17,640 Speaker 2: on Friday night, I will find Skyline Chili before the game. 507 00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:22,080 Speaker 2: It is the Skyline Chili Crossdown Shootout. I need you 508 00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:24,600 Speaker 2: to have a double portion for me. I have vowed 509 00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:27,840 Speaker 2: I'm trying to lock in before the New year, trying 510 00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:30,080 Speaker 2: to get like on it instead of a hard time 511 00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:31,919 Speaker 2: to do it. I know normally that's why people do 512 00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:34,679 Speaker 2: it in January. While I'm testing myself. Yeah, I'm trying to. 513 00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:36,600 Speaker 3: I'm going to like trying to be in a full 514 00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:38,000 Speaker 3: sprint by January first. 515 00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:40,919 Speaker 2: Okay, wait till I bring you a couple treats from 516 00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:46,800 Speaker 2: the holiday party today around three five. I'm stay. Yeah, 517 00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:50,639 Speaker 2: I have vowed the last two times you see as 518 00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:52,639 Speaker 2: went to the Cintas Center to not go back for 519 00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:55,720 Speaker 2: the shootout, and like here I am kind of getting 520 00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:57,720 Speaker 2: pulled back in. Like I asked Mayor last night, I'm like, 521 00:27:57,720 --> 00:27:59,200 Speaker 2: do we want to go to the shootout on Friday? 522 00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:03,520 Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know what to do. It's 523 00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:05,000 Speaker 2: a it's a it's kind of I think it's the 524 00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:08,280 Speaker 2: feeling you had as the game approached with Ohio State 525 00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:10,240 Speaker 2: and Michigan where you kind of get that You're you're 526 00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:14,080 Speaker 2: thinking like during the week where it's like whatever we'll see, 527 00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:16,000 Speaker 2: and then it gets closer You're like, man, I've got 528 00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:19,880 Speaker 2: this feeling again, and I know what that feeling leads to. Pain. 529 00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:23,960 Speaker 2: By the way, a fun stat I saw from Paul Fritchner. 530 00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:27,879 Speaker 2: Is it fun? Actually? Nope? Uh Kerkkrisa was asked by 531 00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:30,359 Speaker 2: Kelsey Conway after the game on Monday night about the 532 00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:33,280 Speaker 2: game coming up on Friday, and he made a reference 533 00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:36,120 Speaker 2: of playing the team from Norwood. 534 00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:39,120 Speaker 3: Oh that's a fun that's one of my fun little 535 00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:40,520 Speaker 3: favorite things about this right And. 536 00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:42,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, we know we got to go play that team 537 00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:45,200 Speaker 2: from Norwood and head there, and we know they like 538 00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:47,360 Speaker 2: to bring intensity, so we'll be ready and we'll bring 539 00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:49,800 Speaker 2: it as well. It led to a funny stat from 540 00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:53,400 Speaker 2: Paul Kerk. Crisa is currently the only player that will 541 00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:55,520 Speaker 2: be on the court on Friday night that was alive 542 00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:59,040 Speaker 2: born the last time you see went and won at 543 00:28:59,040 --> 00:28:59,800 Speaker 2: the Centa Center. 544 00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:04,120 Speaker 3: So you said that's not a fun stat. Nonna say 545 00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:07,160 Speaker 3: I would be. I'd be putting that on a billboard. 546 00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:09,680 Speaker 3: And we do have, you know, plenty of Xavier fans 547 00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:13,520 Speaker 3: who listen. I'll be the Xavier representative. That's awesome. There 548 00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:16,840 Speaker 3: you go, there you go. Uh, what's Shane got to 549 00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:17,240 Speaker 3: say today? 550 00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:18,920 Speaker 2: Shame? 551 00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:19,520 Speaker 8: How's doing? 552 00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:20,240 Speaker 2: What's up? 553 00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:23,320 Speaker 8: I just I've been meeting the call for a long time. 554 00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:25,960 Speaker 8: I met you after the Iowa State game. I was 555 00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:27,920 Speaker 8: with Angelo Dawkins. I was a driver. 556 00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:29,960 Speaker 2: Nice nice, We had we had. 557 00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:31,680 Speaker 8: A blast up there and then you got fired, so 558 00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:32,320 Speaker 8: I didn't. 559 00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:34,880 Speaker 5: Probably got a hold of it. 560 00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:40,720 Speaker 2: That's true. That was a good time. Yes, yes, And then. 561 00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:43,280 Speaker 8: I didn't get to watch the b YU U See game, 562 00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:45,000 Speaker 8: and I'm sitting there listening to it on the radio, 563 00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:47,480 Speaker 8: and the whole time I'm listening to him like, why 564 00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:50,920 Speaker 8: is Tony not coaching the Bearcat He should be a 565 00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:54,640 Speaker 8: defensive coordinator. I hate their defense, the way they run, 566 00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:56,520 Speaker 8: and I'd give anything. 567 00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:59,400 Speaker 2: For you to be the I don't know. I like 568 00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:02,880 Speaker 2: to think I know a lot about defense. I as 569 00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:05,760 Speaker 2: long as I've been around the game. I'm just not 570 00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:07,320 Speaker 2: a huge fan of the three three five. 571 00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:09,360 Speaker 5: Oh, it's terrible. 572 00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:14,160 Speaker 2: It's uh it to me. It's it's in today's football 573 00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:16,880 Speaker 2: and playing in a conference like the Big twelve, I 574 00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:19,880 Speaker 2: think it's hard to have continued success against it. And 575 00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:21,640 Speaker 2: one of the things that it's supposed to help against 576 00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:24,400 Speaker 2: is the passing game. And you know they they played 577 00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:26,560 Speaker 2: a Baylor team this year and Baylor was one of 578 00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:29,000 Speaker 2: the best passing attacks in the country and they limited them. 579 00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:31,440 Speaker 2: TCU was one of the best passing attacks in the 580 00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:33,960 Speaker 2: country as well, but they've been gashed on the ground. 581 00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:37,560 Speaker 2: The three three five just it doesn't bode well against 582 00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:39,000 Speaker 2: teams that can run the ball, and you see too 583 00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:40,120 Speaker 2: many of those in the Big twelve. 584 00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:44,640 Speaker 8: And my other thing is I'm a Steelers guy. Oh 585 00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:48,760 Speaker 8: and I can't believe you and Mo Haven said it 586 00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:52,520 Speaker 8: when the Hurricanes played you see, do you remember the 587 00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:55,200 Speaker 8: little airplane flying around saying fire Al Golden? 588 00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:57,440 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, I do. 589 00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:01,680 Speaker 8: I do out when the bingo tired him. 590 00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:05,400 Speaker 5: I'm like, what a joke. But I think the Steelers 591 00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:06,760 Speaker 5: will get it together. 592 00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:08,640 Speaker 8: And when they have North does it? 593 00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:10,560 Speaker 2: Does Adam feel make a difference for you? 594 00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:12,520 Speaker 5: Yeah? I think so. 595 00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:15,239 Speaker 2: Okay, Okay, I cracked up. 596 00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:18,800 Speaker 8: Every time I hear Zach Tailor's press conference. It sounds 597 00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:20,960 Speaker 8: just like Marvin Lewis and Dick Wibo's just. 598 00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:22,320 Speaker 2: Going through the motions. 599 00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:29,800 Speaker 8: And for Austins, I thank you man. 600 00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:32,880 Speaker 3: All right, let's go. When do the Bearcats play in 601 00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:37,400 Speaker 3: the college football Playoff? Okay, easy, he's gonna come at me. 602 00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:39,040 Speaker 3: You expect you to just sit here and take it 603 00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:39,600 Speaker 3: it easy? 604 00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:41,000 Speaker 2: There was I do remember that. 605 00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:41,400 Speaker 5: Now. 606 00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:44,959 Speaker 2: Al Golden was the coach of Miami when they came 607 00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:47,760 Speaker 2: to Nippert Stadium and lost, and there was a banner 608 00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:51,520 Speaker 2: that said fire out Golden flying around the stadium. It's 609 00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:55,600 Speaker 2: crazy to too many years to visit that twenty fifteen. Wow, 610 00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:57,480 Speaker 2: that's insane. 611 00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:02,120 Speaker 3: Huh good, where's that banner at today? 612 00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:06,960 Speaker 2: Good question? I would We couldn't use it. We got 613 00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:12,600 Speaker 2: to extend our now most of money. He needs to 614 00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:14,720 Speaker 2: see one more week before the d is put back in. 615 00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:16,880 Speaker 3: I was wondering about that, so let's give it one 616 00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:18,400 Speaker 3: more week. We had a caller ask about that. 617 00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:20,960 Speaker 2: We'll give it one more week, Mike, what's happening? 618 00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:25,400 Speaker 5: Man? Hey, guys, appreciate it. 619 00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:25,960 Speaker 4: You got a. 620 00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:31,000 Speaker 5: You got a an excitement level going. Here's for sure. 621 00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:35,120 Speaker 5: I'll get to that last. But I'd like to start 622 00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:37,960 Speaker 5: off with some college basketball and then go to Kenny 623 00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:44,040 Speaker 5: Anderson and these senior selections. Okay, college basketball. From what 624 00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:48,520 Speaker 5: I can ascertain, the three toughest schedules that have been 625 00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:52,719 Speaker 5: played so far, Alabama's played the toughest. They'd played everybody, 626 00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:57,000 Speaker 5: and that Michigan State with ISO, they played a lot 627 00:32:57,120 --> 00:33:00,360 Speaker 5: of good teams, and that that's the that's looking Michigan 628 00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:02,200 Speaker 5: State team I've seen in ten years. 629 00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:05,240 Speaker 2: It's at least it's scary to me because normally Izzo 630 00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:08,480 Speaker 2: struggles early on and then come February March they're rolling. 631 00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:11,320 Speaker 2: He's got this team playing well now, I can't imagine 632 00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:12,560 Speaker 2: what they're going to look like come March. 633 00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:15,400 Speaker 5: He's got that guard kid named Guard. 634 00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:15,840 Speaker 2: Yeah. 635 00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:18,840 Speaker 5: I always always think of Ralph got his baseball player 636 00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:20,600 Speaker 5: way back in the day. But no, he's got some 637 00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:23,920 Speaker 5: serious athletes and they're long too. They're very long. Yep. 638 00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:26,920 Speaker 5: And the third team has done Zaga, but that's not 639 00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:30,960 Speaker 5: unusual for mister Mark Hugh, who's the most underrated coach 640 00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:32,160 Speaker 5: in all of America. 641 00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:35,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I think there's a sneaky I think 642 00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:38,680 Speaker 2: Duke as well. Duke has played Kansas, Arkansas, and Florida 643 00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:41,000 Speaker 2: so far, and they do play Michigan State on Saturday. 644 00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:43,800 Speaker 2: So Duke's played a tough schedule as well and have 645 00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:45,680 Speaker 2: been unblemish through that as well. 646 00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:49,680 Speaker 5: Yeah, they are, but boy, I'll tell you what that game. 647 00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:52,120 Speaker 5: I'm not going to miss Michigan State in Duke. That's 648 00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:57,720 Speaker 5: just be a dandy. Regarding Kenny Anderson and uh the 649 00:33:57,800 --> 00:34:01,400 Speaker 5: three selections, so they're five. Let me make sure I 650 00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:07,040 Speaker 5: have this straight. There's five possibilities and three selections. 651 00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:10,239 Speaker 2: There can't be any more than three selections. To be 652 00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:12,160 Speaker 2: one of the three, you have to get eighty percent 653 00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:12,800 Speaker 2: of those votes. 654 00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:17,360 Speaker 5: Okay, I don't see how Elsie Greenway doesn't get in. 655 00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:19,600 Speaker 5: And the only reason he hasn't been in before was 656 00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:22,440 Speaker 5: he played in the Shadow of They had about seven 657 00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:24,120 Speaker 5: or eight Hall of Famers on. 658 00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:27,400 Speaker 2: That deepot and the Steel Curtain. Yes, oh my god, the. 659 00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:31,080 Speaker 5: Line Jack Hamm and Jack Lambert and then Mel Blunt 660 00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:33,520 Speaker 5: and this one and that one on it was just unbelievable. 661 00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:36,160 Speaker 5: So I see Elsie getting in. He was six time 662 00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:40,120 Speaker 5: Pro bowler, two time All Pro, got a couple of 663 00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:43,160 Speaker 5: rings to show for it. I just don't see how 664 00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:45,200 Speaker 5: he doesn't get in. But boy, I'm telling you, I'm 665 00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:50,080 Speaker 5: saying my prayers for Kenny Yeap because it's just it's 666 00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:52,319 Speaker 5: just a shame, right Tony, because he was a great 667 00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:56,480 Speaker 5: quarterback that played for either a bad or average team. 668 00:34:57,040 --> 00:34:59,799 Speaker 2: It's always hard, I think, to do if you just 669 00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:02,400 Speaker 2: go stats, because if you put his statistics up to 670 00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:04,319 Speaker 2: many guys that are in the Hall of Fame, Ken 671 00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:07,600 Speaker 2: Anderson should already be in, you know, but so much 672 00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:09,759 Speaker 2: comes down to who you played for and what the 673 00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:13,839 Speaker 2: teams did through the full time you were there. I mean, 674 00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:17,799 Speaker 2: Ken Anderson was an MVP in the National Football League, 675 00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:21,000 Speaker 2: a four time Pro boy, he was the most valuable 676 00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:24,080 Speaker 2: player in nineteen eighty one over thirty two thousand passing 677 00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:27,480 Speaker 2: yards just under two hundred passing touchdowns. There are Hall 678 00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:29,600 Speaker 2: of Fame quarterbacks that are in that don't have those 679 00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:32,880 Speaker 2: types of numbers. But again, I think it's just so 680 00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:35,080 Speaker 2: much more as taken in. I'm with you, I hope 681 00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:37,759 Speaker 2: more than anything that Ken Anderson gets in. 682 00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:38,799 Speaker 8: Yeah. 683 00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:42,239 Speaker 5: Plus he's just such a wonderful human being. But one 684 00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:45,799 Speaker 5: more thing about Kenny, Now, I think if I recollect, 685 00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:50,320 Speaker 5: he was very accurate passer, if I'm not mistaken, didn't 686 00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:51,280 Speaker 5: throw a lot of picks. 687 00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:54,880 Speaker 2: Right, I don't have the full stats ahead of me, 688 00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:58,359 Speaker 2: but I would imagine his accuracy was his strong point. 689 00:35:59,520 --> 00:35:59,719 Speaker 4: Yeah. 690 00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:02,600 Speaker 5: I mean, he wasn't flashy or anything, but boy was 691 00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:08,560 Speaker 5: he was he what's the word efficient? Efficient? Okay, now 692 00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:12,640 Speaker 5: we get to Schwarber. Now, come on, guys, everybody doesn't 693 00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:16,560 Speaker 5: Everybody does not necessarily want to go back to their hometown. 694 00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:19,799 Speaker 5: Now some guys do. Some guys could care less about that. 695 00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:27,160 Speaker 5: It's not like Middletown's the Honolulu. Okay. So, and now 696 00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:29,560 Speaker 5: I know the Giants are in the hunt because they 697 00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:32,359 Speaker 5: need a left handed power hit a really really bad 698 00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:36,279 Speaker 5: So I heard that from the John Morosi on the 699 00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:40,200 Speaker 5: MLB Network last night. So I, I, you know, Kyle Is. 700 00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:42,760 Speaker 5: He hits home runs, but you know he's a career 701 00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:45,279 Speaker 5: about a two forty he played for the two forty hitter. 702 00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:48,520 Speaker 5: He played for the Red Sox back in twenty twenty one. 703 00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:51,399 Speaker 5: I believe he might have been a rental player at 704 00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:53,440 Speaker 5: the end of the year because he had only had 705 00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:56,080 Speaker 5: like one hundred and thirty at bats. I'm not sure, 706 00:36:57,239 --> 00:37:01,880 Speaker 5: but I like to be awesome Tony, but god, you 707 00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:04,720 Speaker 5: know how much money. Oh, this guy's gonna get. 708 00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:07,759 Speaker 2: It all career wise two thirty one. He hit just 709 00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:10,440 Speaker 2: two forty last year, but again, fifty six home runs. 710 00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:13,920 Speaker 2: I think that's the thing. Like, if I'm not reading 711 00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:17,800 Speaker 2: from Jeff Passing and Ken Rosenthal, I'm not even putting 712 00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:19,879 Speaker 2: into thought Kyle Schwarber being here, and he was back 713 00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:22,279 Speaker 2: in Middletown for an event a couple of weeks ago, 714 00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:24,879 Speaker 2: and he said all the right things about Cincinnati, which 715 00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:28,799 Speaker 2: I kind of assumed he would. But man, if it 716 00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:32,360 Speaker 2: wasn't coming from just baseball guys that cover the whole league, 717 00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:35,480 Speaker 2: I probably wouldn't think any more of it. But again, 718 00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:38,120 Speaker 2: you hear it enough and you wonder, Okay, is there 719 00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:41,719 Speaker 2: fire where there's that much smoke? I don't know, but man, 720 00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:46,480 Speaker 2: it would be fun in Cincinnati for baseball if they 721 00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:48,480 Speaker 2: found a way. But I'm with you, the amount of 722 00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:51,080 Speaker 2: money is gonna cost. I don't see it happening, but 723 00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:52,280 Speaker 2: it would be a heck of a story. 724 00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:56,440 Speaker 5: I think we should all contribute, like fifteen bucks a piece. 725 00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:00,759 Speaker 5: Let's go get this team. 726 00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:03,200 Speaker 2: We're all in. I throw fifteen on it. I'm in 727 00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:06,200 Speaker 2: for fifteen. That's Austin does that weekly to the foundation 728 00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:07,000 Speaker 2: at Ohio State. 729 00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:16,359 Speaker 5: Yeah, okay, Austin. Now the dirty laundry really comes out. 730 00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:18,920 Speaker 5: Yeh see, I knew, I knew there was something dirty 731 00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:22,200 Speaker 5: about that whole deal with you? All right, you guys, thank. 732 00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:26,359 Speaker 2: One more thing on the Swarberg this, John Hayman said 733 00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:29,560 Speaker 2: earlier Austin, The Reds are indeed interested in hometown here. 734 00:38:29,719 --> 00:38:32,439 Speaker 2: Kyle Schwarber would be quite a coop if they could 735 00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:36,200 Speaker 2: pull it off. Red Sox Orioles pirates, including of course, 736 00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:39,640 Speaker 2: the incumbent Phillies, all in on Kyle Schwarber. Ken Rosenthal 737 00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:43,239 Speaker 2: first linked Schwarber to Cincinnati. So there you have it 738 00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:45,800 Speaker 2: uh one more call and then we'll break to finish 739 00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:47,080 Speaker 2: up the hour mark. What's up? 740 00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:53,520 Speaker 4: Okay? One one Can Anderson comment and one cow swarber. Okay, 741 00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:56,240 Speaker 4: let me let me go with the Can Anderson first. 742 00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:01,080 Speaker 4: I could be wrong. You may be able to give 743 00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:04,400 Speaker 4: me some a inside on this. That was a stretch 744 00:39:04,520 --> 00:39:11,160 Speaker 4: from seventy eight, seventy nine in eighty. He didn't have 745 00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:15,600 Speaker 4: particularly good seasons those three years, and the Bengals drafted 746 00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:21,520 Speaker 4: Jack Thompson and tried to replace him. So sometimes sometimes 747 00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:25,560 Speaker 4: I wonder if that bad stretch, you know, that was 748 00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:26,799 Speaker 4: some injuries in there too. 749 00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:27,160 Speaker 8: Yeah. 750 00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:30,680 Speaker 2: Seventy eight he only seventy eight, He played twelve games, 751 00:39:30,719 --> 00:39:33,360 Speaker 2: but he threw ten interceptions, or he threw ten touchdowns 752 00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:37,320 Speaker 2: to twenty two interceptions, So seventy eight was a nightmare. Season. 753 00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:41,480 Speaker 2: Seventy nine he played in fifteen, sixteen touchdowns, ten interceptions, 754 00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:44,840 Speaker 2: and then another injured year in nineteen eighty he started 755 00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:49,319 Speaker 2: twelve games, six touchdowns to thirteen interceptions, So there was 756 00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:51,720 Speaker 2: a you're one hundred percent right, there was a stretch 757 00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:56,560 Speaker 2: in there over three years with what thirty two touchdown 758 00:39:56,600 --> 00:40:00,840 Speaker 2: passes and fifty five in or se So yeah, I 759 00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:02,520 Speaker 2: completely understand that. 760 00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:06,520 Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, I wonder if that's what's hurting him, that 761 00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:09,520 Speaker 4: that three year bad stretch he had. If he if 762 00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:13,120 Speaker 4: he could have had better seasons during that time, with 763 00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:15,120 Speaker 4: that he would have he may have been a shoe in. 764 00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:18,520 Speaker 4: I could be wrong, but this my opinion. Sure, okay, 765 00:40:18,880 --> 00:40:23,920 Speaker 4: my cow swore, of course. And I'm confused. I heard 766 00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:26,440 Speaker 4: y'all earlier say if they were able to land in 767 00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:31,239 Speaker 4: he bashed first a second. Now, I thought, I thought, see, 768 00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:33,839 Speaker 4: you can talk about my lineup, then you be going yep. 769 00:40:34,600 --> 00:40:37,080 Speaker 4: I thought I thought we needed somebody in the middle 770 00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:41,799 Speaker 4: of the lineup, not somebody at the top. So I'm 771 00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:45,200 Speaker 4: confused that putting him one or two, I thought he 772 00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:49,520 Speaker 4: would solve the either third or fourth or wherever you're 773 00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:51,520 Speaker 4: going to bat Ali, I mean, we got a lead 774 00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:52,200 Speaker 4: off hit or so. 775 00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:55,120 Speaker 2: I just look at how he hit fifty six last year, 776 00:40:55,640 --> 00:40:57,120 Speaker 2: and he did it out of the one hole for 777 00:40:57,120 --> 00:40:59,719 Speaker 2: the Philadelphia Phillies. And whether that's him being comfortable or 778 00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:03,520 Speaker 2: whether that's Philly just saying, hey, from pitch number one, 779 00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:06,240 Speaker 2: you better have your stuff. And if not, Kyle Schwarber's 780 00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:08,279 Speaker 2: gonna jump all over it. I think there is a 781 00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:10,320 Speaker 2: little bit of value to that, But I certainly understand 782 00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:10,960 Speaker 2: the point. 783 00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:15,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, if it were me, if it was my choice, 784 00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:19,479 Speaker 4: I will probably be batting third. Yeah, in that way, 785 00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:22,879 Speaker 4: at least I'm getting him in that bat Sure in 786 00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:26,880 Speaker 4: the first hit, Sure, you know, and go from me. 787 00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:29,640 Speaker 4: So yeah, let me get all the show. 788 00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:33,160 Speaker 2: Appreciate it. See what happens here Austin. We've got to 789 00:41:33,160 --> 00:41:38,000 Speaker 2: shootout Friday. We've got Bengals bill Sunday Championship weekend. And 790 00:41:38,040 --> 00:41:40,160 Speaker 2: we mentioned a little bit on Swarburn. Now we're talking 791 00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:41,280 Speaker 2: about Swarburn, the lineup. 792 00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:50,080 Speaker 3: We love people from Cincinnati, We love hometown heroes, home 793 00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:51,040 Speaker 3: run hitters. 794 00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:54,160 Speaker 2: Do you know, off the top of your head, out 795 00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:55,960 Speaker 2: of the fifty six home runs he hit, how many 796 00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:58,399 Speaker 2: were out of the leadoff spot or how many were 797 00:41:58,480 --> 00:41:59,320 Speaker 2: leadoff home runs? 798 00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:02,080 Speaker 3: Oh, I feel like he set a record for this, 799 00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:03,560 Speaker 3: didn't he fifteen? 800 00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:06,400 Speaker 2: Fifteen? Yeah, And like that's that to me? Is the 801 00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:09,399 Speaker 2: thing like when you have a Kyle Schwarber leading off, 802 00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:12,359 Speaker 2: you don't get to just like groove the first pitch 803 00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:14,799 Speaker 2: over to get comfortable in the game. You know, like 804 00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:17,000 Speaker 2: so many times pitchers are like, all right, first pitch 805 00:42:17,040 --> 00:42:19,800 Speaker 2: of the game, let's get as striking here. You're uncomfortable 806 00:42:19,840 --> 00:42:22,600 Speaker 2: right away, like you have to make sure and warm 807 00:42:22,680 --> 00:42:24,160 Speaker 2: Up's like, all right, I gotta be ready because I 808 00:42:24,239 --> 00:42:25,640 Speaker 2: got Kyle Schwarber coming up here. 809 00:42:26,120 --> 00:42:30,200 Speaker 3: And again the notion of your best hitter coming to 810 00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:33,200 Speaker 3: the plate more frequently, yea, I think is and. 811 00:42:33,160 --> 00:42:35,520 Speaker 2: Are you going to pitch around him? With Ellie de 812 00:42:35,640 --> 00:42:38,160 Speaker 2: la Cruz on deck? Right again? What are we doing? 813 00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:40,480 Speaker 2: And he is just a rumor? Here's the other thing 814 00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:42,120 Speaker 2: I can't I'm losing. 815 00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:44,680 Speaker 3: The other thing we'd have to consider right for heartbreak 816 00:42:44,840 --> 00:42:47,839 Speaker 3: is the Reds have made it very obvious that they 817 00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:51,279 Speaker 3: don't value hitting home runs in the way that they 818 00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:54,279 Speaker 3: approach games and some of the decisions made by Terry Francona. 819 00:42:54,680 --> 00:42:57,239 Speaker 3: And maybe part of that is that they haven't had 820 00:42:57,280 --> 00:42:59,759 Speaker 3: guys in the lineup that are viable, guys that they 821 00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:03,200 Speaker 3: feel like can hit those home runs. How does that 822 00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:07,280 Speaker 3: change your day to day strategy on construction of the lineup? 823 00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:11,920 Speaker 3: And if you're struggling to score runs, why wouldn't you 824 00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:15,120 Speaker 3: put your most prolific home run here in the leadoff spot? 825 00:43:15,239 --> 00:43:15,479 Speaker 4: Right? 826 00:43:16,040 --> 00:43:18,560 Speaker 2: And I don't, I just. 827 00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:23,000 Speaker 3: I know Mark's talking about badam third or fourth. No, 828 00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:26,799 Speaker 3: I want him up more frequently. I would almost say 829 00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:29,440 Speaker 3: put Ellie at lead off and put Schwarber behind him 830 00:43:29,520 --> 00:43:32,160 Speaker 3: or flip him. I don't care, but you got to 831 00:43:32,200 --> 00:43:34,239 Speaker 3: get those guys up to the lineup more frequently, or 832 00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:35,239 Speaker 3: up to the plate more. 833 00:43:35,239 --> 00:43:39,439 Speaker 2: Frick at us December third lineup potential with Dyle Schwarber. Kyle, 834 00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:41,319 Speaker 2: if you're listening, come home. 835 00:43:41,400 --> 00:43:43,319 Speaker 3: In the words of the great Jeff Brantley, why don't 836 00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:44,560 Speaker 3: you come home, back to the house. 837 00:43:44,680 --> 00:43:45,120 Speaker 2: Come home. 838 00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:48,319 Speaker 3: We've been waiting on. We'll take a break. When we 839 00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:49,879 Speaker 3: come back, Kyle call in. 840 00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:55,000 Speaker 2: We'll put an end to hour number one, and then 841 00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:57,640 Speaker 2: we'll start our two with Zach Taylor's weekly press conference 842 00:43:57,680 --> 00:44:10,560 Speaker 2: on ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station WC Welcome back 843 00:44:10,600 --> 00:44:14,200 Speaker 2: since the three sixty ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station. 844 00:44:15,040 --> 00:44:17,920 Speaker 2: I have one question, Austin. I've been reading a lot 845 00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:22,200 Speaker 2: about Mike Tomlin and the Pittsburgh Steelers. You know, the 846 00:44:22,360 --> 00:44:25,040 Speaker 2: big Ben I saw came out and said that, you know, 847 00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:27,880 Speaker 2: it might be time to move on from Tomlin. I 848 00:44:27,880 --> 00:44:30,920 Speaker 2: know James Harrison had some things to say about Mike Tomlin. 849 00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:34,400 Speaker 2: Ben Roethlisberger floated out there that Tomlin should go and 850 00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:37,480 Speaker 2: be a great fit for Penn State. Who still has 851 00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:41,640 Speaker 2: a job opening. My question is this, I know they 852 00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:44,480 Speaker 2: have championships in the past, How could have of a 853 00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:47,520 Speaker 2: job as Pittsburgh right now? With their roster it's not 854 00:44:47,640 --> 00:44:52,319 Speaker 2: the best. I mean, they are essentially a fossil. They're 855 00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:57,000 Speaker 2: old in most every position. TJ Wats just getting older. 856 00:44:57,080 --> 00:45:00,279 Speaker 2: Cam Heyward's is just getting older. Jalen ram he is 857 00:45:00,320 --> 00:45:03,759 Speaker 2: just getting older. Who is your foundational piece on the 858 00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:06,840 Speaker 2: offensive side of the ball. Like, how good of a 859 00:45:06,920 --> 00:45:12,400 Speaker 2: job would Pittsburgh be right now in the coaching carousel 860 00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:12,920 Speaker 2: that could be? 861 00:45:13,160 --> 00:45:18,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think you just see more of that of 862 00:45:18,719 --> 00:45:23,080 Speaker 3: ownership in the way that that franchise is built. It's 863 00:45:23,120 --> 00:45:27,160 Speaker 3: probably still in a desirable position. I mean, obviously they've 864 00:45:27,160 --> 00:45:28,880 Speaker 3: had three head coaches in the last fifty I think 865 00:45:28,880 --> 00:45:31,760 Speaker 3: they would want Zach Taylor. Yeah, I bet they would. 866 00:45:32,200 --> 00:45:34,480 Speaker 3: Zach Taylor's kind of kicked their ass. 867 00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:39,520 Speaker 2: Speaking to Zach Taylor, he speaks, we'll carry that. Next 868 00:45:39,719 --> 00:45:42,280 Speaker 2: On ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station. 869 00:45:42,719 --> 00:45:46,680 Speaker 1: Joe Burrow is back and he plays here on ESPN 870 00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:51,359 Speaker 1: fifteen thirty. The Official Hall of the Cincinnati Bengals. 871 00:45:51,880 --> 00:45:54,960 Speaker 6: Skylines, Mac and Cheese. Three Ways Back. It's your favorite