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Speaker 1: All right, back on the Eddie Unlackey Show on a

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Speaker 1: Friday day after Opening Day, and Rock not here today.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if he was mixing it up downtown

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Speaker 1: last night or whatever and got arrested. I don't know

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Speaker 1: what happened. But today I'm working with my good friend

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Speaker 1: Jason Williams from the Inquire Cincinnati dot com.

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Speaker 2: Great to be back with you, my friend. I was

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Speaker 2: covering opening Day yesterday and we were sitting there in

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Speaker 2: a press box right and away right in my column

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Speaker 2: last night, and I bet it was ten straight minutes

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Speaker 2: worth of sirens that I kept hearing outside the stadium.

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Speaker 3: And then it saw all the news and wow.

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Speaker 1: It's like the old thing. I went to a hockey

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Speaker 1: game and or I went to a fight and a

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Speaker 1: hockey game broke out. Yeah, yeah, right, well exactly right.

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Speaker 1: They did actually play play baseball yesterday. Let's talk to

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Speaker 1: your compatriot here, yes, Gordon Wittenmeyer. Gordon Witnmeier, the beat

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Speaker 1: reporter for the Reds for Cincinnati dot Com. Gordon, welcome

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Speaker 1: back to the program.

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Speaker 4: Thanks for having me. How are you guys doing well?

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Speaker 1: Well, we'll talk about the ancillary stuff in a second,

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Speaker 1: but guys, are your thoughts, because Jason you right about

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Speaker 1: the Reds as well, your thoughts on what we saw yesterday.

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Speaker 1: I'm very disappointed, but hey, it's first game.

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Speaker 5: Well you saw what happened. Everybody was pissed. You saw

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Speaker 5: what happened in the streets.

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Speaker 4: Everybody's pissed off. They didn't even score.

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Speaker 1: That's what happened. That's nothing to do with it. Everybody

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Speaker 1: was like, did you see the strikeouts with the bases loaded?

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Speaker 4: For God's sakes, on a challenge?

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Speaker 5: No less one of them was on a challenge.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it was.

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Speaker 5: I mean, I mean, what else is there to say?

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Speaker 5: You know, they played one game, got shut up, they stink.

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Speaker 5: You know, they're they're going nowhere.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I think that's what That's.

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Speaker 5: What Terry Francona told us beforehand. You know, it's over

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Speaker 5: reaction Friday on that off day, whatever happens, like when

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Speaker 5: we're going to the World Series, if we don't stink

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Speaker 5: while they stink and they're not going to score any

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Speaker 5: runs this year, we've already determined that. But Sal Stewart

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Speaker 5: might win Rookie of the Year.

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Speaker 4: He's he had three hits, well.

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Speaker 5: Not counting the one that was one hundred and ten

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Speaker 1: Man, did he catch that flesh on? Good lord?

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Speaker 3: That did not look good from our Vandon's point, right.

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Speaker 5: I caught it right in that soft part on the

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Speaker 5: inside of your wrist, right above the right above, like

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Speaker 5: a bony part of his arm and it broken it

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Speaker 5: as it was, it had to be massive. I mean,

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Speaker 5: it looked like it. Jason and I loot each other

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Speaker 5: thinking that guy just broke his arm, and he.

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Speaker 4: Thought so too. So the fact that he didn't, that

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Speaker 5: The next pitch he saw, he drove in the right

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Speaker 5: field for a hit. It's crazy, amazing and so good

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Speaker 5: for him. I mean, I'm sure he saw its hell today,

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Speaker 2: And now the real, the real season starts. Gordon, I

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Speaker 2: of weeks ago or what last week? I guess it

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Speaker 2: it was quintessential Andrew Abbot.

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Speaker 2: You know, he's not going to overpower anyone, but a

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Speaker 2: Seven gave up seven singles and four of those are

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Speaker 4: I couldn't agree with you more. And and in.

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Speaker 5: Fact, if this were two three weeks into the season.

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Speaker 5: and that's what they're going to need more than anything else.

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Speaker 5: But then the young guys come into play, right then

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Speaker 4: That more rotation is the thing to watch.

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Speaker 1: So, guys, we saw a thing. I brought it up earlier.

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Speaker 2: I mean, what a story it would have been to

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Speaker 2: Suarez whack and one of those. Yeah, he had his chances.

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Speaker 4: Except for this.

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Speaker 5: Except for this, they hadn't put together.

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Speaker 4: Jack the whole game. So the fact that they three.

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Speaker 5: lost the run. Although you know, you make a great

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Speaker 4: Too, so he strikes out a lot. That's the risk

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Speaker 5: The crochet pitch though yesterday, and man, you know that's

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Speaker 5: I'd say, yeah, yeah, you're right. But the fact they

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Speaker 3: We saw that, which is that right? Yeah? Yeah, right?

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Speaker 2: And one of the sidebars to this game was the ABS.

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Speaker 3: Gordon, what do you make of this? ABS? Do you

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Speaker 1: And let me ask you, would you guys explain that?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, they've done this in the minor leagues for a

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Speaker 5: So now it's now it's instituted every each team gets

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Speaker 5: A hitter could challenge, but teams get really ticked off

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Speaker 5: if you're challenging the pitch of the game or something

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Speaker 4: You don't have to do that.

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Speaker 4: We saw it, you know. I don't like it. Honestly.

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Speaker 5: I think it's just one more thing that shows up umpires.

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Speaker 5: Why do we have umpires at all?

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Speaker 7: Right?

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Speaker 5: I think sports is about human frailty and failure. That's

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Speaker 5: what makes the successes so terrific. And if you take

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Speaker 4: I don't like it.

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Speaker 5: Mistakes are part of it. Mistakes by the officiating, mistakes

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Speaker 4: It's all part of sports.

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Speaker 1: Good stuff anytime, Boddy, love it, Gordon, the Reds beeat

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Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, well we're going to be talking more

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Speaker 1: Back on the Eddie and Rocky Show. Jason Williams from

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Speaker 1: it's still Friday round about this time. That means we

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Speaker 1: talked to this fellow, right Chiah, our good friend John Batteries,

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Speaker 1: Channel nine News. Don't waste your money and John here

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Speaker 1: we are. Believe it or or not. There was a

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Speaker 8: Uh was there?

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Speaker 4: There was?

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Speaker 1: It was the it was the it was the pre

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Speaker 4: Yeah, before the fight.

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Speaker 7: But going to a hockey game and then yeah, a

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Speaker 1: Uh but uh so, But let's talk about reds as

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Speaker 1: But they they they always have great deals and they

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Speaker 7: You know the cost of a Bengals game, Good luck

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Speaker 7: I mean they practically give away seats, you know, to

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, all the time.

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Speaker 3: I don't know of anyone who does that John exactly.

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Speaker 7: So, uh, you know that that's one thing you can

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Speaker 7: they have the ticket deals, which are great. They have

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Speaker 7: That's a good deal because it's it's spread out over

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Speaker 9: I was going to say, deal, Yeah, yep, they still

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Speaker 7: Like Mark shot used to.

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Speaker 3: Be, what's the three, the threes, the beer, what's the two?

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Speaker 7: And then you have the Closterman Family Nights where you

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Speaker 7: it's just great. You have a lot of good deals,

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Speaker 2: John three two one Tuesday is three dollars beer, two

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Speaker 3: That's that was the one that's me stuff ice cream.

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Speaker 7: I know, I didn't want to steer you wrong and

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Speaker 9: Very Yeah, they don't want people getting that drunk.

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Speaker 1: Well, remember back at Cleveland back in the day when

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Speaker 7: For Oh, that must have been more fun than the

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Speaker 2: Night when they had years kind of ended up looking

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Speaker 2: I noticed the Reds are doing. I know they've done

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Speaker 2: maybe I'm wrong on that, but it's the no fees

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Speaker 7: But I think it ended. March choices.

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Speaker 7: the strait again, oil is not going back to sixty dollars.

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Speaker 7: So those two seventy nine two ninety nine gas prices,

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Speaker 7: they're gone for a while.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 7: If we can get this resolved and get a peast

442
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Speaker 7: plan and the Straight from Her Moves is open again,

443
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Speaker 7: oil is gonna PLoP right back down to sixty seventy

444
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Speaker 7: bucks and those prices will will drop down fast. So

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Speaker 7: we're waiting for that to happen. If that doesn't happen

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Speaker 7: and this drags on, you know, especially the spring, the

447
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Speaker 7: springs when gas prices go up anyway, right because of

448
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Speaker 7: increased demand. So if this continues to drag on, the

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Speaker 7: places will continue go up. We hit a few four

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Speaker 7: dollars a gallon, We saw some four to nine a

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Speaker 7: gallon this week. It's three ninety nine at a lot

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Speaker 7: of stations. And if this is those on, yeah, they

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Speaker 7: could be four to twenty five next. So what's it

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Speaker 7: going to take to bring them down? Where there's two

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Speaker 7: things you're talking about in Washington. One is suspending the

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Speaker 7: national gas tax because that would drop the prices twenty

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Speaker 7: five cents easily. If they suspend the national gas tax,

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Speaker 7: they may do that. And the other is opening those

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Speaker 7: petroleum reserves. That's already underway. They're trying to do that. Now.

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Speaker 7: That's what happened back in twenty twenty two when gas

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Speaker 7: hit five dollars gallon. Remember that when those little stickers

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Speaker 7: of Joe Biden on gas pumps and pulled to the

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Speaker 7: gas station. The gas was five dollars and there was

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Speaker 7: a stick picture Joe Biden.

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Speaker 8: Going right, did that?

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Speaker 1: I did that?

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Speaker 7: Right?

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Speaker 1: Well, now we got five dollars diesel. Guess who did this?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, we're waiting for that. So you know, if they

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Speaker 7: open the reserves, and they are doing that, that's helping

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Speaker 7: a little bit. If they suspend the gas tax, they'll

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Speaker 7: lower prices like thirty cents instantly. So we're going to

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Speaker 7: see back then, in fact, that's how they helped bring

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Speaker 7: down the five dollars gas was low. Bring the gas

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Speaker 7: taxes at the state level and the federal level and

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Speaker 7: that he'll drop them back down for five bucks.

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Speaker 4: But I remember that summer.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, my sud I hit one hundred dollars on a

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Speaker 7: fill up.

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Speaker 2: That was I hit eighty six today and Toyota Tundra

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Speaker 2: and I'm like, I was loving that is in the

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Speaker 2: fifties there for a while.

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Speaker 7: Well that's because that's because you drive the Exxon Valdi's

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Speaker 7: try something.

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Speaker 3: Man, it's twenty one years old. To John I follow you,

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Speaker 3: I follow your advice. And I'm like, I'm trying to

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Speaker 3: you know, I don't want to. I don't want a

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Speaker 3: car payment.

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Speaker 1: And I'm like, but yeah, you're driving a boat. Uh, Johnny,

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Speaker 1: Maybe next week we can talk about Easter prices. I

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Speaker 1: saw you do a TV report on the TV.

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Speaker 3: I saw you drive.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, Easter chocolate. That's that's stuff expensive, not cheap anymore.

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Speaker 7: All right, Hey, guys, have a great weekend, and as

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Speaker 7: I say, don't waste your money.

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Speaker 3: Alright, buddy, Thank you, Johnny.

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Speaker 1: So coming up next, we're going to be talking about

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Speaker 1: the events of yesterday with the fellow I believe. I

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Speaker 1: don't know if he was mixing it up down there

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Speaker 1: or not, but he was. He was an opening day

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Speaker 1: and you'll see what Steve Gooden saw and what he knows.

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Speaker 1: But that is after the news. News Radio seven hundred WLW.

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Speaker 1: All right back with Eddy and Jason Williams in for

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Speaker 1: Rocky Today and Jace. You know, there is other news

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Speaker 1: going on besides what's happening here in Cincinnati. And I'm

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Speaker 1: sure the our guest right now, Alex Stone from ABC,

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Speaker 1: has heard about that, but we digress. Yes, Alex Stone,

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Speaker 1: the other big story is the long security lines at

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Speaker 1: the airports and it looks like now you tell us,

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Speaker 1: first off, welcome back to the program, gentlemen. Always a pleasure.

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Speaker 1: So what do we know about? So there was an agreement,

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Speaker 1: the Senate had passed an agreement. Now the House laughed

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Speaker 1: it off, but they're going to start paying the TSA guys.

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Speaker 1: What's going on?

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Speaker 8: Yeah, so the Department of Publands Security is saying by Monday,

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Speaker 8: the TSA officers should be getting their paychecks again. And

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Speaker 8: it comes after the President ordered really it's going to

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Speaker 8: be moving money around until there is a deal done

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Speaker 8: when there's actual funding. But he's ordering the government to

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Speaker 8: pay the TSA officers to get money moving, and the

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Speaker 8: House figure Mike Johnson he's the one who announced it.

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Speaker 8: Here's what he said. A few minutes ago.

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Speaker 6: Trump was already ordered by executive order that TSA agents

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Speaker 6: will be paid and those that machinery is in process

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Speaker 6: right now. The aupsome Menageant budget is working through that

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Speaker 6: to make sure that that happens, and we will reduce

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Speaker 6: the lines and the waves that the airlines will make

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Speaker 6: sure that those who are protecting us are paid.

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Speaker 8: So today they again the TSA officers got their second

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Speaker 8: zero dollar paycheck and the third paycheck the first one,

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Speaker 8: but three paychecks ago that was only like ten percent

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Speaker 8: of their paycheck because of the pay period. So really

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Speaker 8: they've gone three paychecks now without getting much, if any money.

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Speaker 8: So this could all change very quickly based on paychecks

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Speaker 8: flowing again if they really going to begin getting paid

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Speaker 8: on Monday, but on the actual funding of it yet

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Speaker 8: at the Senates and the House, a funding bill that

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Speaker 8: left out immigration enforcement just to get money going again

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Speaker 8: to the TSA, FEMA and the Coast Guard, and the

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Speaker 8: Senate to the House today rejected that they are now

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Speaker 8: coming up with their own bill that would include immigration enforcement,

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Speaker 8: which is what Democrats have been saying that they won't okay,

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Speaker 8: and they're going to send it back to the Senate,

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Speaker 8: but it's probably going to get held up in the

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Speaker 8: Senate because it's got immigration enforcement in it and doesn't

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Speaker 8: do what the Democrats have been holding out for, wanting

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Speaker 8: to change the rules of ICE and CVP and whatnot.

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Speaker 8: So who knows what's going to go on there. But

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Speaker 8: either way, with the President's executive order, it appears that

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Speaker 8: TSA officers very quickly are going to get paid and

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Speaker 8: that should put an end to these crazy long wait times.

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Speaker 8: At George Bush in her Continental Airport yesterday it was

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Speaker 8: around five hours to get through. Security is getting worse

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Speaker 8: every day. This one was trying to fly out, it

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Speaker 8: was five hours. She could have driven a lot quicker.

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Speaker 1: Javeling from Houston to Goton Rouge.

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Speaker 6: So I should have just during it, right.

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Speaker 8: The five dollars.

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Speaker 4: Put it into hilarious text of this.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, so we just got a we had to see it,

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Speaker 8: at least a text that's going to all TSA officers

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Speaker 8: saying that they will get their back pay beginning on Monday,

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Speaker 8: and effective tomorrow, all employees must return to work. Now.

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Speaker 8: The expectation has been through all of this that they

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Speaker 8: were going to work. But the reality is that come

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Speaker 8: into play of not being able to pay for gas

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Speaker 8: or childcare or you know, a lot of them have

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Speaker 8: just quit and gone to other jobs. So they're down

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Speaker 8: in numbers as well. But yesterday in Houston, forty four

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Speaker 8: percent of TSA officers called out sick. Forty four to

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Speaker 8: almost half. We're gone forty percent in Atlanta, thirty seven

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Speaker 8: percent in Baltimore, thirty four percent a JFK Airport in

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Speaker 8: New York, thirty one percent in New Orleans, twenty four

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Speaker 8: percent in Phoenix. So this has been a big hit,

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Speaker 8: and a lot of these airports are the multiple checkpoints.

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Speaker 8: They had to go down to one or two checkpoints,

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Speaker 8: really slowing everything down. But again, with the funding maybe

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Speaker 8: being approved in the next couple of days, they try

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Speaker 8: to come to a deal. But really with the order

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Speaker 8: for the Department of Homeland Security and the government the

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Speaker 8: Budget Office to come up with the money, they should

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Speaker 8: get paid beginning on Monday.

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Speaker 2: I think Alex you kind of answered the question, but

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Speaker 2: my question was, you know, Monday is when they're getting paid,

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Speaker 2: but in the interim it is peak spring break travel

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Speaker 2: season coming and going, and my family, my own family,

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Speaker 2: right now as they're flying out of Savannah back to

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Speaker 2: Cincinnati tomorrow. But what you're saying is this, this should

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Speaker 2: now by today's announcement, though they're only not getting paid

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Speaker 2: till Monday, this weekend, and even maybe even tonight, right,

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Speaker 2: things should be getting back to normal or back to normal.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean, that's the order, is it, And they've

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Speaker 8: got to come back now. Granted again that there have

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Speaker 8: been one hundreds who have just quit, and there's a

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Speaker 8: reason for that in that TSA officers don't make much

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Speaker 8: money and that there are some areas of the country

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Speaker 8: where they can make more going and working at an

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Speaker 8: Amazon warehouse or work at a fast food restaurant. And

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Speaker 8: so some of them have said, you know what, enough

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Speaker 8: of this after several government shut downs, this one going

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Speaker 8: on for a long time, that they're done, that they're out,

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Speaker 8: and that they're not going to deal with any longer.

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Speaker 8: But those who have not quit, they are being told

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Speaker 8: no more calling out sick than effective. Immediately get back

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Speaker 8: in and work those security checkpoints now, assuming that they

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Speaker 8: follow that order, and that they don't say, well, I

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Speaker 8: want to see a paycheck first, or you know, even

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Speaker 8: now they may say I don't have any money for gas,

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Speaker 8: So I'll be there once you start paying me again.

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Speaker 8: But they should get back pay, and they are being

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Speaker 8: ordered back, but at least by early next week, assuming

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Speaker 8: that the President's executive order that it flies through and

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Speaker 8: that paychecks really do begin flowing and there's not some

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Speaker 8: lawsuit that holds it up or something else, then yeah,

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Speaker 8: early next week, things should be back to normal for

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Speaker 8: the most part, except for the ranks that they've got

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Speaker 8: to fill again for those who have just quit and

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Speaker 8: walked away.

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Speaker 2: Right well, God, God, God bless those folks who have

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Speaker 2: gotten up every day without knowing when their next paycheck's

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Speaker 2: coming and still going to work. And do those folks

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Speaker 2: who have still come to work it, are they going

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Speaker 2: to get anything extra? I know they're going to start

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Speaker 2: getting their pay and their back pay, are they going

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Speaker 2: to get anything on top of that?

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Speaker 3: As like, hey, bone.

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Speaker 8: That time they got a kind of a reward for

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Speaker 8: working through it in the one last year. But we

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Speaker 8: haven't heard of anything this year so far that they

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Speaker 8: haven't gotten that far. But I gotta tell you, I

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Speaker 8: was at LAX a couple of times this week covering

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Speaker 8: everything going on, and the TSA officers who are working

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Speaker 8: had smiles on their faces. They were relaxed. They were

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Speaker 8: you know, saying, hey, this is just kind of what

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Speaker 8: we do. And they were getting fed by the airport.

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Speaker 8: The airport was giving them lunch, and they were all

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Speaker 8: kind of walking, you know, around on their brakes with

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Speaker 8: the They were in really good moods. I would be

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Speaker 8: really grumpy if I didn't get paid for a month

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Speaker 8: and was being told I had to show up to work.

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Speaker 8: They were handling it very very well.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And I saw because I just flew back from

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Speaker 1: Tampa just a couple of weeks ago, and I saw

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Speaker 1: the same thing Alex. The people who were there on

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Speaker 1: the line. But this was right before all of this

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Speaker 1: stuff happened. I mean, I was lucky, but the people

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Speaker 1: who are working were could have been nicer. And to

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Speaker 1: everybody's credit, going through the line, I don't believe I

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Speaker 1: didn't hear one person say some kind of statement of

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Speaker 1: gratitude towards them, be it a thank.

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Speaker 8: You for being here, real great.

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Speaker 1: Everybody was being super nice about it, and that was

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Speaker 1: good to see.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, And I mean, this isn't their fault at all,

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Speaker 8: and it's not even their fight because the Democrats have

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Speaker 8: been holding out over immigration enforcement, and ICE agents have

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Speaker 8: been paid through this whole thing because they're considered law enforcement.

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Speaker 8: TSA is not law enforcement. But during government shutdowns, law

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Speaker 8: enforcement continues to get paid. And that's an argument that

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Speaker 8: needs to have some resolution during these things of how

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Speaker 8: do we get TSA paid and air traffic controllers paid?

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Speaker 8: They weren't included in this one, but during the last

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Speaker 8: government shutdown, because FBI agents continue to get paid. Of

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Speaker 8: federal agents in general, their law enforcement, even during a shutdown,

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Speaker 8: they get paid, but the others do not. But but

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Speaker 8: so this wasn't the TSA's fight. This was over immigration enforcement.

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Speaker 8: But those who were being that they were fighting over

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Speaker 8: were continuing to get paid and the TSA officers were

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Speaker 8: not and are not right now, but hopefully well in

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Speaker 8: the next couple of days. So, Yeah, and it hasn't

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Speaker 8: been everywhere. By the way, at LAX there's been no rate.

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Speaker 1: That's what I'm going to ask.

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Speaker 8: You could walk right through security. It hasn't been anything

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Speaker 8: like some of these other cities. So it really depends

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Speaker 8: on the city.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, because my experience here in Cincinnati hasn't been bad.

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Speaker 1: But when I traveled I was traveling kind of the

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Speaker 1: off time in the afternoon and stuff. So it wasn't bad.

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Speaker 1: But some of the morning pictures I've seen are truly horrendous.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean Atlanta, Houston, Phoenix, Baltimore, some of them

682
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Speaker 8: have been really, really bad.

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Speaker 1: You pointed out Houston, five hour wait New Thanks Alex Stone,

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Speaker 1: always a pleasure, buddy, Thanks so much.

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Speaker 8: He got a big guys, have a great weekend.

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Speaker 1: Thanks out Alex Stone for ABC News and I will.

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Speaker 1: And this had nothing to do with with any kind

688
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Speaker 1: of government shutdown or anything, but a few years ago

689
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Speaker 1: we were traveling with our sons and deb and I

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Speaker 1: had or pre checked and well we we haven't got

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Speaker 1: the global entry thing. You know, have you heard of

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Speaker 1: what that is? So with that you get pre check

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Speaker 1: because we were we were going overseas and we've flown

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Speaker 1: we fling back. I think for me it was from London,

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Speaker 1: and so you know, they random you sometime and don't

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Speaker 1: give you your pre check that you're supposed to have.

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Speaker 1: Guess who got got brandow?

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Speaker 3: Uncle?

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Speaker 1: Oh uncle ed. And you should have seen my sons

700
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Speaker 1: pointing and laughing at me when they were standing in

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Speaker 1: line of about oh, I don't know ten people, and

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Speaker 1: I was standing in the line of about two hundred

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Speaker 1: and fifty and uh and I'm steaming and the people

704
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Speaker 1: come by and say, they're like, you want to get clear?

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Speaker 1: You can skip the line, as like, oh yeah, how

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Speaker 1: much is it? And uh, it's one hundred it's one

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Speaker 1: hundred dollars. But if you have a special offer we

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Speaker 1: have if you had an American Express card, it's fifty I go,

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Speaker 1: I got fifty bucks to skip this, and then you

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Speaker 1: did it? Oh yeah, and they take it take some

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Speaker 1: about three minutes to register you, and then they take

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Speaker 1: you right to the front of the line. You cut it,

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Speaker 1: cut ahead everybody, and oh yeah, and cut ahead of

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Speaker 1: everybody for fifty bucks. And I'm I'm standing there waiting

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Speaker 1: on my FA. Basically my family is walking around looking

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Speaker 1: at me, and I walk into my son and go, hey,

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Speaker 1: so is that only a one time thing? What they

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Speaker 1: had the special deal going on? For fifty bucks, I

719
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Speaker 1: got the clear thing and they keep and you can

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Speaker 1: use that for a year.

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Speaker 2: Oh okay, so okay, yeah, that's it's kind of like

722
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Speaker 2: the uh, what's the what's the King's Island thing where

723
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Speaker 2: you have to skip Yeah, yeah, I love that we

724
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Speaker 2: got the fast past right, the right plane.

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Speaker 1: With that, we check in with traffic and weather. What

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Speaker 1: is going on?

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Speaker 2: All right?

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Speaker 1: Back on the Eddie and Rocky show. Rock is out today.

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Speaker 1: Jason Williams from the Inquire Cincinnati dot Com is with

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Speaker 1: me and Jace. You know, considering what's happened in Cincinnati

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Speaker 1: in the last twenty four hours, perhaps we could use

732
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Speaker 1: a new PR firm. Yes, but we're only Cincinnati though, No, no,

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Speaker 1: not only Cincinnati. But I'm saying, if this person could

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Speaker 1: break this down for us, then we can work on

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Speaker 1: the Cincinnati situation together. What we're what we're talking about

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Speaker 1: the Southwest Airlines and they're fat shaming situation they had

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Speaker 1: last week and here to discuss. She is a public

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Speaker 1: relations marketing expert. She's been in the business for many

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Speaker 1: years and she just released a book, Pitchworthy. She is

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Speaker 1: our good friend PJ. Blattin about or kJ blat kJ

741
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Speaker 1: welcome to the program.

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Speaker 10: Thank you so much for having me so, kJ.

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Speaker 1: You heard me talk. And Cincinnati has its problems right now,

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Speaker 1: but we shall deal with that later on. So maybe tomorrow,

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00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:16,719
Speaker 1: maybe tomorrow, but let's talk about the Southwest Airlines thing.

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Speaker 1: For people who don't know. Uh, they're accused of fat

747
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Speaker 1: shaming someone after for many years being kind of famous

748
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Speaker 1: for letting you know, so we call oversized people kind

749
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Speaker 1: of slide with extra seeding.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, yeah, they you know they This actually isn't a

751
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Speaker 10: seating policy story for Selfwest. It's a trust story. They've

752
00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:44,480
Speaker 10: always trained their customers that for years they handle everything respectfully,

753
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Speaker 10: especially people's weight. But the expectation and the experience has

754
00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:51,640
Speaker 10: broken apart, and obviously you're going to get backlash, especially

755
00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:54,960
Speaker 10: anytime you're dealing with customer service and there's a surprise,

756
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Speaker 10: it's going to lead to outrage. Selfwest now went from

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Speaker 10: having one issue a customer upset and feeling fat shame,

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Speaker 10: to three big issues. The first one is that the

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Speaker 10: policy didn't change as much as the experience for their

760
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Speaker 10: customers did. Airlines have always had space and safety rules right,

761
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Speaker 10: but what change for Southwest was refunds are no longer automatic,

762
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Speaker 10: the enforcement feels inconsistent, does the decision feels subjective by

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Speaker 10: who you get at the counter, and passengers are being

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Speaker 10: told in public instead of ahead of time you can't

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Speaker 10: fly you're too heavy. The second thing, the second issue

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Speaker 10: they have is that public enforcement. It creates humiliation. Right,

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Speaker 10: So what we saw out of the Kansas City example

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Speaker 10: of fat shaming, it matters because the conversation happened in

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Speaker 10: front of a line of passengers in a busy airport.

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Speaker 1: See, that's what got j That's what gets me is

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Speaker 1: that couldn't you handle that a little more discreet manner

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Speaker 1: and kind of pull them aside out. Look, instead of

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Speaker 1: having all these people who are already mad because you're

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Speaker 1: holding up the line, then go hold on to say

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Speaker 1: we got a fat one here who is holding up

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Speaker 1: the works there? I mean, come on, that's yeah, really

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Speaker 1: I would be That would make me the maddest. I

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Speaker 1: realize I'm a big guy, but don't call me a

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Speaker 1: big fat dude in front of everybody and that I

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Speaker 1: need to pay up or get.

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Speaker 10: Out one thousand percent one thousand percent. When one of

782
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Speaker 10: the biggest complaints is it depends on who you get

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Speaker 10: at the counter. It's not a communications failure. It's a

784
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Speaker 10: training issue. If customers don't understand the rule beforehand and

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Speaker 10: employees get to interpret it differently depending on the size

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Speaker 10: of the person in front of them or where the

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Speaker 10: flight's going to. People assume discrimination even when the airlines leave,

788
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Speaker 10: it's applying safety standards. The reality check is this, airlines

789
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Speaker 10: are a weight in space business. They always have been.

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Speaker 10: See it with effects safety, compliance, evacuation timing, not only

791
00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:44,440
Speaker 10: passenger comfort, but aircraft's balance. You know, it's also a

792
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Speaker 10: revenue model because airlines need to make money. Right, the

793
00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:49,399
Speaker 10: existence of the policy isn't a problem like you said,

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Speaker 10: it's the roller of the policy that's the problem.

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Speaker 2: What the heck is happened the Southwest Airlines? They used

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Speaker 2: to be beloved and like such loyal coming, not even airlines,

797
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Speaker 2: but of any American company. You would always think Southwest

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Speaker 2: would seem to be mentioned as these guys get.

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Speaker 3: Customer service, loved them. Yeah, where did this go wrong?

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Speaker 2: Did they get a whole new leadership, CEO and team

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Speaker 2: or something like?

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Speaker 3: What's happened here?

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Speaker 10: They got bottled by private equity, and private equity cares

804
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Speaker 10: about the bottom line. They don't care about the customer

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00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:25,520
Speaker 10: at the end of the day. They care about the

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Speaker 10: bottom line. So whether the CEO is a hardline or

807
00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:29,640
Speaker 10: the CEO is a soft you see that when they

808
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Speaker 10: start making changes from top to bottom. And so the

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Speaker 10: biggest peer mistake Southwest is making time and time again.

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Speaker 10: Now this is the latest case, is that they keep

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Speaker 10: changing the emotional contract with their most loyal customers and

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Speaker 10: they don't bought us to explain it at all.

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Speaker 1: Frustrating kJ Blennbauer is our guest, and kJ, this seems

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Speaker 1: to be one of the most common problems you get

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Speaker 1: here with businesses where you know, you built your reputation

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Speaker 1: on one thing, and then, as in this case, the

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Speaker 1: equity firm or whoever the case is, Jason went suggesting

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Speaker 1: management change whatever the case might be, if it, if

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Speaker 1: it works, don't you know, if it's working, don't try

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Speaker 1: to fix it. What the hell's wrong?

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Speaker 10: Exactly? You know exactly. The airlines and the companies that

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Speaker 10: win long term aren't the ones with the easiest policies

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Speaker 10: or like the loosest policies. They're the companies where whose

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Speaker 10: customers still respected inside and outside time and time again.

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Speaker 1: Now is this a matter of when people come in

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Speaker 1: and Okay, it's working, right Jason talking about and I

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Speaker 1: think we can all agree that Southwest, even if you

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Speaker 1: didn't fly, you recognize them as a high quality customer service,

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Speaker 1: much beloved. Now, when you come in and examine a

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Speaker 1: situation like that are you do you think you know

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Speaker 1: we can cut this and nobody's going to notice or

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Speaker 1: you know? Is that what it is? People trying to

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Speaker 1: cut back on stuff, maybe save a buck here and

834
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Speaker 1: buck there, and then lose their reputation. How does that work?

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Speaker 10: I personally have never sold my soul the private equity,

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Speaker 10: so I'm not sure the specific the menu that they

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Speaker 10: that they follow, but I'm going to tell you that

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00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:08,799
Speaker 10: they aren't looking at things that people won't miss. They

839
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Speaker 10: don't think about the people at all. They think about

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Speaker 10: the bottom line. They look at spreadsheets and numbers and

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00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:17,279
Speaker 10: not how it's going to impact real world operations. You

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00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:19,759
Speaker 10: can see Southwest is going the way that Frontier went

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00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:23,120
Speaker 10: so not so long ago, because it's kind of the

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Speaker 10: same model, the same company kJ.

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Speaker 2: What if if Southwest Airlines called you and said, kJ,

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Speaker 2: we need crisis pr help, we need you now, what

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Speaker 2: would what would.

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Speaker 1: Be I guess A how would you approach this.

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Speaker 2: UH individual customer UH from Kansas City on the on

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Speaker 2: the granular level, But then what would be your bigger,

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00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:51,640
Speaker 2: broader approach to tackling this and trying to turn the

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Speaker 2: tide for that company?

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Speaker 10: For me, it's about there's three sides of every story. Right,

854
00:42:56,239 --> 00:42:59,080
Speaker 10: there's the customer side, there's what happened on the southwest side,

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00:42:59,080 --> 00:43:00,880
Speaker 10: and then somewhere in the middle is the truth. Right

856
00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:02,920
Speaker 10: for me, it's getting both sides, making sure that the

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00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:05,680
Speaker 10: customer fields heard, and then on the southwest side they

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00:43:05,719 --> 00:43:09,080
Speaker 10: need to clarify the rule publicly and visually. Customers want

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00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:12,080
Speaker 10: measurable standards, not guesswork. If I know what size my

860
00:43:12,200 --> 00:43:14,360
Speaker 10: carry on bag can be because you're visually showing me

861
00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:17,000
Speaker 10: in a box seat, rules should feel just as objective.

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00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:19,719
Speaker 10: I'm not saying show a person, but if you have

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00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:22,520
Speaker 10: to know exactly, there should be measurable standards. They also

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00:43:22,520 --> 00:43:25,320
Speaker 10: need to move the conversation online, not to the airport

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Speaker 10: counter seat size. Accommodation's decisions need to happen before travel,

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Speaker 10: during booking privately, never in line at baggage checks or

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Speaker 10: when you're checking to board right, and then you need

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Speaker 10: to train your staff on dignity language. Passengers don't object

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Speaker 10: to policies as much as they object to tone and

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00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:46,600
Speaker 10: how they're treated. Language determines whether something feels procedural or personal.

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Speaker 10: We could all be a little bit calmer and nicer

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Speaker 10: and more polite when traveling, but you also need to

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Speaker 10: train people on how to interact with other people.

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Speaker 1: Do you think that's a matter of frustration though, as

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Speaker 1: a part of the employee goes, I don't. We obviously

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Speaker 1: don't know what the interaction with these two people was.

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Speaker 1: Maybe the frustration and finally said okay, fatso pay up

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Speaker 1: or get the hell out of here. I mean, I

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Speaker 1: don't know how it worked.

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Speaker 10: You know, I'm not there right, but some passengers clearly

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Speaker 10: experienced it that way, and perception is what's going to

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Speaker 10: drive your reputation from a PR standpoint. Once multiple customers

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Speaker 10: describe an interaction as humiliating or inconsistent, that's a problem.

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Speaker 10: The airline has to treat that as communications failure in

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Speaker 10: their training, not just specific people. Whether or not discrimination

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Speaker 10: was intended or not, intent doesn't control the headline. The

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Speaker 10: experience does. And you're seeing the Southwest experience every single

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Speaker 10: thing that's happening to them is getting more and more

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Speaker 10: amplified about what's going on the Southwest, and they really

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Speaker 10: just keep adding another notch in their belt.

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Speaker 4: Well.

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Speaker 1: See, PR has to be really tough these days. kJ

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Speaker 1: based on because this guy who filed this suit or whatever,

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Speaker 1: this complaint he's gotten I think hundreds of thousands of

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Speaker 1: views on TikTok and whatnot. So right there, you've got

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Speaker 1: a wildfire out of control.

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Speaker 5: You do.

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Speaker 10: And the longer it takes you to establish a set policy,

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Speaker 10: explain the policy clearly, show transparency, and take ownership if

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Speaker 10: there truly was an issue, the more it's going to

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Speaker 10: get out of control.

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Speaker 3: One one more quick question.

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Speaker 2: I know, I know you're not a lawyer, but does

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Speaker 2: this I mean, but you would have to if you

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Speaker 2: were PR consulting or on their PR team, you'd be

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Speaker 2: involved in this. Hey, y'all, is there potential legal ramifications

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Speaker 2: here from this guy?

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Speaker 10: I mean, the United States is a sue happy culture.

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Speaker 10: There are potential legal ramifications in anything. Whether it's a

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Speaker 10: kangaroo court sort of situation or whether there's viability to it,

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Speaker 10: No one really knows until you get to that point, right,

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Speaker 10: But there are a lot of ways that you can

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Speaker 10: handle things before it gets to court, just by being

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Speaker 10: a decent human being and transparent with your messaging. If

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Speaker 10: they had apologicy in place and they clearly communicated it,

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Speaker 10: we wouldn't be in the.

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Speaker 1: Situation, all right, Blatenbauer, We really appreciate you joining us.

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Speaker 1: People want to find out more about you.

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Speaker 10: Where can they go and they can go to hearsaypr

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Speaker 10: dot com, s H E A R s A y

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Speaker 10: PR dot com.

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Speaker 1: Great stuff. Yeah, thank you so much.

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Speaker 3: Awesome, thank you. That was great.

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Speaker 1: It's true. It's a public opinion is a cruel mistress.

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Speaker 2: This common sense stuff like treat people with respect.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, like I said, we don't know what happened

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Speaker 1: in the interaction, but you know I handled it into

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Speaker 1: screen fashion to stand there in front of a bunch

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Speaker 1: of people and go, hey, you're too fat to get

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Speaker 1: on this airplane. Bay up or get the hell out,

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Speaker 1: Like I said, With that in mind, we check in

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Speaker 1: with traffic and weather what is going on.

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Speaker 3: But it's a turbo