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Speaker 3: And that's the way the news go.

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Speaker 1: Indeed, it is Brian Thomas right here, glad to be

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Speaker 1: hosted the fifty five KRC morning show. It is Friday

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Speaker 1: half Friday. Eve stayed in the obvious. I certainly love Fridays,

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Speaker 1: and I'm already anticipating on Friday, and I love Friday.

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Speaker 1: Eve's here because of course we get iHeart media aviation

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Speaker 1: expert Jay Ratliffe. At the tail end of the show

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Speaker 1: eight thirty, we got like nine thousand things over with

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Speaker 1: Jay today and so the list. They even suggested maybe

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Speaker 1: we do a speed round anyway. Preceded by at seven

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Speaker 1: oh five, fast forward a couple of hours, Judge Christopher McDowell,

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Speaker 1: the ball, the courtroom brawl, and Judge Winkler's courtroom after sentencing.

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Speaker 1: Some perceive the sentences to be light, and of course

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Speaker 1: the family of the victim reacted, getting into a bit

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Speaker 1: the violence in the courthouse, et cetera. Matt Demaris, I

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Speaker 1: don't know if you remember Matt. He is the man

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Speaker 1: behind the Vets and Bruce charity. That's a great guy

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Speaker 1: and wanted to do something for the American veterans. So

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Speaker 1: by donating ten dollars to Vets and Bruce, a veteran

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Speaker 1: the wonderful organization or the Kentucky making veterans made carpentry items.

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Speaker 1: Why is the name escaping me Joe? Patriots Landing? God,

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Speaker 1: that's what I have Joe for Joe, tell your stories

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Speaker 1: all day long about my short term memory issues and

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Speaker 1: sometimes long term memory. Is Patriots Landing. That's an outstanding

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Speaker 1: organization for the American veterans. Get involved, hang out of

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Speaker 1: Patriots Landing, share your stories and do some woodworking anyhow.

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Speaker 1: That's where the balance of any donation to Vet's and

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Speaker 1: Bruce goes. They have a bourbon raffle we put them

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Speaker 1: on last year to talk about it. It's Bourbon raffles season,

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Speaker 1: so yes, you can have an opportunity for a very

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Speaker 1: of bourbon. We'll get the details on that with Matt

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Speaker 1: in studio at seven point thirty eighth five Fast forward

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Speaker 1: got Charlie Howard in the studio regarding the Cincinnati Auto Expo.

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Speaker 1: It's this weekend taking me back to my childhood days

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Speaker 1: for calling the Cavalcada customs. Since AI Auto expot check

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Speaker 1: Charlie Howard eight oh five, follow by empower You, Bob

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Speaker 1: Jewel on new concealed carry laws. The seminar tonight we

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Speaker 1: had the other half of the seminar on Yes, Janice

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Speaker 1: Heisel is going to be speaking for part of the

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Speaker 1: seminar about the fraud in Minnesota, and it is I

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Speaker 1: just if you have no idea about the details behind

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Speaker 1: the Minnesota fraud, you have really got to look into that.

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Speaker 1: And I made it really easy and you have to

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Speaker 1: find the link to the Hillsdale College article on it.

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Speaker 1: But it's an eye opener. And I always like to

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Speaker 1: go back to the fact that if there's that much

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Speaker 1: into California's hospice care one County, Los Angeles County, and

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Speaker 1: massive amounts of fraud uncovered in that. Again a single program, hospice.

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Speaker 1: That is your taxpayer dollars being squandered. So but the

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Speaker 1: other half of the Empower of Seminar Bob Juel, the

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Speaker 1: new concealed carry laws important for everybody out there who's carrying,

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Speaker 1: interested in caring. Check it out tonight, log in from home,

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Speaker 1: You know Daniel Davis do the Deep Dive every week.

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Speaker 1: He was warning about don't think you're you're gonna get

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Speaker 1: yesterday to release four hundred million barrels from their strategic

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Speaker 4: Brian, It's funny you just mentioned miss messy Massy.

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Speaker 4: or you wear your Daisy Duke Jean shorts?

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Speaker 6: The simple thank you, cam express our true feelings of

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Speaker 6: Well, always remember face flag family, and today is handicapped

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Speaker 1: Oh, what's you over and under? It's now even? Is this? Uh?

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Speaker 1: Is this shootings acts of violence? Or is this death

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Speaker 6: Well, last week we had it four and a half

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Speaker 1: Watch out for the drones, Bobby, keep your eyes peeled.

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Speaker 1: Apparently they're coming for California, and if they come to California,

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Speaker 8: Again, good morning to you as well. And if they

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Speaker 5: But if I would.

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Speaker 8: Appreciate if they'd stay away from Tory Pines. I'm planning

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Speaker 8: These uh, these these people complaining about uh, Snap's not

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Speaker 8: about it, and whatever your reason is to cut out

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Speaker 8: things that the federal government or any government and supplies

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Speaker 8: to the citizens, we have to really start cutting things

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Speaker 8: back saying no, it's not our responsibility to do that.

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Speaker 8: You are going to run into everyone that is on

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Speaker 8: these benefits saying no, no, no, don't cut mine. I

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Speaker 8: want this, I like this, I'm used to this, and

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Speaker 8: this is this is what we as citizens have to

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Speaker 8: understand that if we really are serious about cutting this stuff,

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Speaker 8: these deficits back, and how much money we spend, these

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Speaker 8: are the sacrifices we're going to have to make. These

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Speaker 8: are the decisions we're going to have to make for

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Speaker 8: ourselves and as voters for other people. And the other

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Speaker 8: thing we're going to have to make sure we do

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Speaker 8: is don't vote Democrat.

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Speaker 5: Have a great day for right.

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Speaker 1: Here, Tom appreciate. Is it a sacrifice to do without

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Speaker 1: soft drinks? Sodas. I don't drink them. My life has

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Speaker 1: only been impacted by the too positively as a consequence

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Speaker 1: of that. Five thirty seven fifty five KRC talkstation stack

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Speaker 1: and stupid coming up, more more phone calls. Either way,

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Speaker 1: we go be right back. Fifty five KRC okay by

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Speaker 1: forty one on a Friday E five one three eight

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Speaker 1: hundred eighty two three five definitionally classic bullse ice stack.

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Speaker 1: A stupid story here, Joe S. Tracker, congratulations on finding

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Speaker 1: this one. Slightly delicate circumstances. I'll have to sort of

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Speaker 1: maybe dance around FEC compliance rules, but there's enough info

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Speaker 1: in here with that does comply with the FCC to

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Speaker 1: get the point across. We have a ex convict busted

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Speaker 1: on drug charges, ultimately cut a plea deal, resulting in

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Speaker 1: his release from the Florida jail where he found himself.

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Speaker 1: He Walter Fremeyer, fifty two years old, pleaded no contests

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Speaker 1: past Friday. The possession of a meth pipe and threatening

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Speaker 1: a sheriff's deputy felty drug charge was dropped by a

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Speaker 1: prosecutor's as part as that part of that negotiated plea deal.

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Speaker 1: He has been locked up since his October arrest. Was

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Speaker 1: sentenced one hundred and eighty days. Freed from jail March sixth,

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Speaker 1: after serving five months in custody find their Ship background.

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Speaker 1: He was arrested after police responded to report of a

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Speaker 1: naked guy inside the winter Haven Park bathroom. When officer

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Speaker 1: first made contact with Freimeier, who was fully clothed, he

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Speaker 1: was carrying a gray lunch box and holding his meth pipe.

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Speaker 1: Apparently cops were not aware at the time was that

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Speaker 1: Freimeyer was still in possession of well, what is described

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Speaker 1: as a lunchbox standard. When you think of a lunchbox,

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Speaker 1: what does it come with a right to thermos? The

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Speaker 1: student listeners know exactly where this is going. While subsequently

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Speaker 1: being booked into the Polk Caddy jail, he went through

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Speaker 1: a full body scanner which was used to find contraband

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Speaker 1: would be hidden maybe hidden in the some people call

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Speaker 1: prison purse. No, there were no drugs or weapons there. Instead,

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Speaker 1: correction workers spotted a full size thermos inside Frymeer's body.

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Speaker 1: Local sheriff I guests on social media explained that the

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Speaker 1: item had entered Fremeer's body a day earlier. A day earlier,

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Speaker 1: the quote the exit ramp close quote. During treatment over

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Speaker 1: to local hospital. The thermos was successfully extracted from mister

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Speaker 1: Freymeyer and, as noted by the smoking gun props of

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Speaker 1: the smoking gun getting credit for them, the discovery of

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Speaker 1: the item did not result in additional charges being filed

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Speaker 1: because it's not illegal to have a thermis stashed there.

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Speaker 1: There's no flag for us, amen, brother, we're staying in

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Speaker 1: Florida on this one. Florida man have been arrested allegedly

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Speaker 1: lap lifting from a strip club. Huh. Police alleged that

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Speaker 1: Robert mal Donado, forty six, got fifteen straight quote private

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Speaker 1: dances close quote early Friday morning at rain which is

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Speaker 1: described as a gentleman club, a gentleman's club in clear Water?

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Speaker 1: Is that sexist to have a gentleman's club, Joe? Does

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Speaker 1: gentlemen include women who identify as men? Would they feel appropriate?

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Speaker 8: There?

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Speaker 1: Is it a place for them that where they will

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Speaker 1: be welcome? Sorry, that was a cul de sec I

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Speaker 1: didn't need to go down to anyway. According to the article,

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Speaker 1: dances cost forty bucks apiece in addition and an additional

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Speaker 1: fifty dollars quote review fee close quote which ultimately I

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Speaker 1: know ultimately brought his tab to six hundred and fifty bucks.

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Speaker 1: After getting the lap dance marathon, he refused to pay

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Speaker 1: the total bill, instead offering only fifty bucks. He quote

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Speaker 1: subsequently refused to pay any amount. According to the arrest report,

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Speaker 1: police showed up to the club quarter after one of

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Speaker 1: the morning. Kop explained to the guy who appeared to

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Speaker 1: be under the influence, shocking no One that payment was

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Speaker 1: required for the survey he had requested and received. According

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Speaker 1: to Cobs, maldonno spoke incoherently and was speaking in circles,

513
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Speaker 1: refusing to make any effort to pay the lap dance balance.

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Speaker 1: Arrested and booked into the County jail. Spent the night

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Speaker 1: before being released on his own recognizance Judge Olverstein. Judge

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Speaker 1: ordered him to stay away from the club and other

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Speaker 1: bars or clubs, also prohibit him from using alcohol or

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Speaker 1: illegal drugs, and must also submit any alcohol or drug

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Speaker 1: testing requested by the courts and law enforcement. Statutorily charged

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Speaker 1: with theft misdemeanor, he actually engaged in laplifting the preferred

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Speaker 1: Sunshine State prominentire for lap dance plus shoplifting, we have

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Speaker 1: a new term. I wonder if Dave had will incorporate

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Speaker 1: that into the Tech Friday segment tomorrow. Five forty six

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Speaker 1: fifty five KRCD talk station more stupid or phone calls

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Speaker 1: coming up first though, Presston station fifty five KRCD talk station,

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Speaker 1: Go to the phone five one three eight two three

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Speaker 1: talk hound, fick fifty on eight and t phone before

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Speaker 1: we get back to the stack, is stupid. I got

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Speaker 1: Hank on the line. Hank, thanks for calling this morning.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the show.

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Speaker 4: Good morning, brun So.

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Speaker 11: I was listening to Bobby once again with his torch

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Speaker 11: of freedom. I want to make sure that's not the

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Speaker 11: torch of free stuff that the Snap food people are

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Speaker 11: looking for.

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Speaker 5: Way, Yeah, what we need is a lot.

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Speaker 11: More torches of freedom and some pitchforks to go with

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Speaker 11: it and go talk to some people about it. But anyway,

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Speaker 11: the Snap benefits. I've had this idea for a while.

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Speaker 11: Here's my idea. Instead of having a list of things

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Speaker 11: they can't have, just have a short list of things

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Speaker 11: they can have. And far as I'm concerned, that could

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Speaker 11: be something nutritionally complete in a can or something in

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Speaker 11: a bag, dry and crunchy that you can add water

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Speaker 11: to and it makes its own gravy.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Well, and also I think that's kind of the the

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Speaker 1: general idea behind the program is just now it is

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Speaker 1: ultimately going to be come that with the restrictions, you effectively,

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Speaker 1: by restricting certain items, you effectively end up with the

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Speaker 1: exact kind of list you're wanting. So rather than try

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Speaker 1: to make a comprehensive list of everything that's included in SNAP,

553
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Speaker 1: just specifically say no, you can't buy crap with it

554
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Speaker 1: that has no nutritional value. And that's what these states

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Speaker 1: are doing. Perfectly appropriate response.

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Speaker 11: Okay, and then the last thing I wanted to hit

557
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Speaker 11: on is the property tax. Everybody's wondering on how to

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Speaker 11: replace it. I had an idea, instead of having the

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Speaker 11: property tax and then upping other taxes, the sales tax

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Speaker 11: or income tax, have a mortgage tax and have it

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Speaker 11: set up so that whatever percentage it is when you

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Speaker 11: get the mortgage, that's what the tax stays at through

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Speaker 11: the life of the mortgage, and once you pay it off,

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Speaker 11: you're done. You own the house, no more payments.

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Speaker 1: So it is not impacted by the increase in property values.

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Speaker 1: It's a fixed rate setback from the day you bought

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Speaker 1: the home.

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Speaker 11: Exactly. It's based on the mortgage cost.

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Speaker 1: How that ultimately would play out, I don't know, because

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Speaker 1: you know, there's numbers to crunch and how much revenue

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Speaker 1: would be generated, et cetera, et cetera. You still have

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Speaker 1: the complications of limiting or otherwise reducing the overall tax

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Speaker 1: revenue generated by the property taxes. But insofar as the

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Speaker 1: concept is concerned, Hank, I love it because I remember

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Speaker 1: what it costs to build our house, and I know

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Speaker 1: what the county values it at now, and I'm paying

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Speaker 1: one hell of a lot more in property taxes now

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Speaker 1: than I was thirty plus years ago when the home

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Speaker 1: was built. Yeah, it's appealing. Devil's always in the details, though, Hank.

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Speaker 1: But I certainly appreciate you calling and suggesting that over

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Speaker 1: to this deck, we've gott to stay in Florida. Stack

582
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Speaker 1: is stupid Following two girls arrest back in January, an

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Speaker 1: attempt to murder and an attempted to murder investigation. Now

584
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Speaker 1: they've released new video footage showing the girls in the

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Speaker 1: backseat of the patrol car, showing the pair laughing shortly

586
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Speaker 1: after being arrested and placed in the back of the vehicle,

587
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Speaker 1: also discussing the situation that led to the arrest, specifically

588
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Speaker 1: that someone snitched to law enforcement and a rest reports

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00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:59,560
Speaker 1: please say that Lake Brantley High School received an anonymous

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Speaker 1: tip and anyuary anonymous tip advised that there was a

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Speaker 1: student who goes by the name of Jimmy who was

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Speaker 1: planning to kill another student whose name is redacted in

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Speaker 1: the release. Vestkider said they were able to identify Jimmy

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Speaker 1: as Valdez, one of the ones that was arrested. Port

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Speaker 1: shows Valdez and her best friend, identified as Lippert, pulled

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Speaker 1: from their classes to speak with law enforcement. Valdez denied

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Speaker 1: knowing anything about the tip. Lippert can be heard saying

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Speaker 1: in the back of the police report, our police careers.

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Speaker 1: After the arrest, oh my god, explotive. I knew I

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Speaker 1: shouldn't have told him because he was like, Okay, can

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Speaker 1: you please tell me? I can't sleep tonight? Blank, you confusing,

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Speaker 1: I know. Court document show Valdez was obsessed with Sandy

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Speaker 1: Hook shooter Adam Lanza, which apparently tied into this murder plot.

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Speaker 1: Cord to the report, it was learned that the victim

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Speaker 1: reminded Valdez of Adam Lands and that she believed if

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Speaker 1: she killed the victim she would have a blood bond

607
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Speaker 1: with Adam Lanza, which would resurrect him from the dead.

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Speaker 1: Also claims she planned to wait for the victim in

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Speaker 1: the restroom, stab him in the stomach or cut his throat,

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Speaker 1: leaf flowers at the scene, and smoke a cigarette afterwards.

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Speaker 1: Vestcutters also said Libbert had had drawn a number of

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Speaker 1: sketches showing the victim dead on the floor next to Valdez,

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Speaker 1: the victim hanging with a rope around his neck, and

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Speaker 1: severe sexually explicit depictions involving the victim. Ultimately, Valdez Lipert

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Speaker 1: arrested and now facing charges for attempted first degree murder,

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Speaker 1: arm burglary of his structure, attempted aggravated child abuse with

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Speaker 1: the deadly weapon, possessions of weapon or school on school property,

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Speaker 1: and aggravated stalking. Thank you, Joe, here you go. Portions

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Speaker 1: of the conversation for the back of the police car

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Speaker 1: included in the motion asking the court to hold her

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Speaker 1: in jail. Valdez told Libbert that they could become one

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Speaker 1: of the lesbian couples in jail. Lippert replied, yeah, you

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Speaker 1: can be the butcher. Valdez re probably, Hey, this is

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Speaker 1: my ex stay away, use your imagination. Valdez asked Lifford

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Speaker 1: if she was trying to look good in her mugshot.

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Speaker 1: Lippert replied, expletive, I'm going to get a mug shot.

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Speaker 1: Valdez replied, yeah, we're all going to jail. What do

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Speaker 1: you think. Valdez told Libbert she was going to use

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Speaker 1: makeup this morning for her mugshot, but she could not

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Speaker 1: find anything. Lippert said, I'm glad I don't look too

631
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Speaker 1: bad today, Valdez, I look horrible. Valdez then said it's over.

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Speaker 1: Lippert replied, yeah, it's over. It doesn't matter if you

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Speaker 1: look good or not.

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Speaker 12: Well.

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Speaker 1: At least they recognized the writing was on the wall

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Speaker 1: on that one. Okay, resurrect him from the dead. Right

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Speaker 1: as I look over the other stack of stupid story,

638
00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:41,520
Speaker 1: people actually think Bigfoot is roaming around Portage County here

639
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Speaker 1: in Ohio, I'm having a difficult time deciding which is dumber,

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Speaker 1: Joe resurrecting a mass murderer from the dead or a

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Speaker 1: belief that you saw Bigfoot. Sure there's someone out in

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Speaker 1: the audience called Bigfoot's real. Five fifty six right now,

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Speaker 1: fifty five cares to the talk station. More coming up,

644
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Speaker 1: including drone attacks in California. There's a frightening thought. Sounds

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Speaker 1: to me like it could be quite legitimate. I'll be

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Speaker 1: succes say comvide five KRC the talk station Happy Friday Eve.

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Speaker 1: I think it's Brian Thomas. I'm host of the fifty

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Speaker 1: five KRC Morning Show, which I always like to point out.

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Speaker 1: I love hearing from listeners to something you'd like to

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Speaker 1: talk about. Got an hour of time, got plenty of stories,

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Speaker 1: of course, until we get to the first guest of

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Speaker 1: We're talking about violence in the courtroom. That fight that

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Speaker 1: and interrupt the Judge McDowell's courtroom, as well violence at

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Speaker 1: the Hamilton County Courthouse. Maybe ask him about bonds issues

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Speaker 1: as well. So in studio at seven oh five, follow

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Speaker 1: by Matt Demris from Vets and Bruce helping out the

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Speaker 1: all helps the American veterans. So Matt DeMars back in

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Speaker 1: gonna be talking about the Cincinnati Auto Expo.

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Speaker 5: Yay.

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Speaker 1: As a car guy, I love the Cincinni Auto Expo.

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Speaker 1: So we'll get a segment with Charlie Howard. Then we're

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Speaker 1: gonna hear from Bob Jewel, the other half of the

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Speaker 1: Empower Youth Seminar taking place tonight seven pm. You can

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Speaker 1: log in at home, or you can show up at

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Speaker 1: the Empower Youth studio and first hear Janet Heiseel or

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Speaker 1: I don't know the order of things. Danet heeisl was

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Speaker 1: on the program yesterday. If you didn't get a chance

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Speaker 1: to listen to it, find that podcast fifty five KRC

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Speaker 1: dot com. She's gonna be talking about fraud in Minnesota

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Speaker 1: and unimaginable levels of fraud. Then most apparently the state

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Speaker 1: the main reason Governor Watas isn't running for reelection, and

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Speaker 1: some point that he personally benefited from it, that money

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Speaker 1: actually flowed into his pockets. Now do I have any

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Speaker 1: proof of that? Noe? Am I making an allegation. Pretty

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Speaker 1: much because it was so bad and so many people

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Speaker 1: knew about it for such a long time, some thing

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Speaker 1: So here what Janet has to say, and then back

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Speaker 1: pivoting back over to eight fifteen. Here in the Morning Show,

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Speaker 1: Bob Jewel the other half of the seminar about new

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Speaker 1: concealed Carrie laws in Ohio, I guess and elsewhere. So

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Speaker 1: concealed carry folks out there, really important that you listen

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Speaker 1: to what Bob has to say. And of course you'll

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Speaker 1: be on the program today, and of course it's Thursday,

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Speaker 1: so we're gonna hear from my heart media aviation expert

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Speaker 1: Jay Ratliffe. And if we get through all of the

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Speaker 1: things he suggested we talk about, we're probably gonna go

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Speaker 1: into maybe nine thirty, ten o'clock here in the Morning Show.

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Speaker 1: It's Jay Ratliffe. I love having them one anyway, Maybe

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Speaker 1: I don't mean to even talk about this. Look breaking news.

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Speaker 1: Iran cancel's plan to attack California after seeing Gavin Newsom

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Speaker 1: already destroyed it. Now that is, of course a Babylon

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Speaker 1: b article. Although some are saying, wait a minute, I

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Speaker 1: thought this site was satire. One can make the argument

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Speaker 1: it is already destroyed. But here's the real problem. It

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Speaker 1: was the end of last month that the FBI issued

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Speaker 1: a an alert saying we recently acquired information that, as

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Speaker 1: of February twenty twenty six in Iran allegedly aspired to

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Speaker 1: conduct a surprise attack using unmanned aerial vehicles from an

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Speaker 1: unidentified vessel off the coast of the United States homeland,

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Speaker 1: specifically against unspecified targets in California in the event the

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Speaker 1: US conducted strikes against Iran. So apparently, you know, maybe

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Speaker 1: the drones are in place, Maybe they have been stored

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Speaker 1: in a facility, Maybe they're on a boat somewhere out

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Speaker 1: in the water, waiting for US to start dropping bombs

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Speaker 1: on Iran. It didn't happen last year when we blew

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Speaker 1: up the nuclear facilities, So what's different about this action?

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Speaker 1: US intelligence officials apparently concerned about expanding use of drones

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Speaker 1: by oh Mexican drug cartels. Yes, we have shot down

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Speaker 1: some of those on the border, but also that that

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Speaker 1: technology can be used to attack American forces and personnel

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Speaker 1: maybe close to the border. Maybe the Iranians are playing

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Speaker 1: nice with the Mexicans and have their drones in Mexico.

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Speaker 1: We might not know about that. Maybe the Mexican drug

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Speaker 1: cartels are taking up sides with the Iranians because it's

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Speaker 1: a thorn in our side, and of course we are

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Speaker 1: a thorn in the Mexican drug cartel side. Quarter to

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Speaker 1: a September twenty twenty five bulletin, an uncorroborated report suggests

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Speaker 1: that unidentified Mexican cartel leaders had authorized attacks using UAS

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Speaker 1: drones carrying explosives against US law enforcement and the US

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Speaker 1: military personnel along the US Mexico border. This type of

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Speaker 1: attack against US personnel or interest inside the US would

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Speaker 1: be unprecedented, but exemplifies a plausible scenario, pointing out that

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Speaker 1: cartels typically avoid these actions because we might go after them, like,

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Speaker 1: would be needed. But exemplifies a plausible scenario, noting that

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Speaker 1: the drug cartels do occasionally used drones, we having shot

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Speaker 1: them down, and of course revealing that it's certainly possible

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Speaker 1: with the Iranians and their potential sleeper cells here in

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Speaker 1: the United States brought to you by Open Borders. During

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Speaker 1: the Bright administration, intelligence officials long concerned about equipment being

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Speaker 1: prepositioned either on land or on ships at sea in

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Speaker 1: the event US and Israel strike Iran or one of

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Speaker 1: the other strikes Iran. Certainly a plausible scenario. And I

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Speaker 1: think if you remember, was it not when we bombed

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Speaker 1: the nuclear facilities during that twelve day thing last year

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Speaker 1: that we found out that we had embedded resources within

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Speaker 1: Iran that we knew where things were. Look at the

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Speaker 1: way the Israelis did with the communications devices some refern

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Speaker 1: of them cell phones or walkie talkies or whatever. They

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Speaker 1: blew the heads off a bunch of terrorists that had

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Speaker 1: been pre planned for quite some time. So there's a

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Speaker 1: lot of pre planning going on in here. And I

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Speaker 1: guess they have a broader question, would you blame Trump

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Speaker 1: because you know this is coming? And Lord Almighty in

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Speaker 1: spite of the fact, and I've heard the top of

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Speaker 1: our news and I will comment on it. Because look,

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Speaker 1: the top of the our news look focused on the

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Speaker 1: OSCARS and security regarding the OSCARS, concerns over the day

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Speaker 1: may be targeted by the Iranians for a retaliatory strike. Oh,

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Speaker 1: let's worry about it now. While you might experience a

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Speaker 1: momentary about of shadenfreude if that happens, I don't want

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Speaker 1: loss of life and I don't care if it's some

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Speaker 1: left wing commie, woke yet privileged movie star, or anybody

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Speaker 1: else for that matter. But you know, in spite of

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Speaker 1: the momentary shod and freudie you might have on California

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Speaker 1: being hit, it's our land, it's our territory, it's the

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Speaker 1: United States. You're gonna hear rallying cries that this is

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Speaker 1: Trump's fault. Assuming there's loss of life, murder, intentional murder,

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Speaker 1: intentional destruction. They spect like they're saying, you know, large

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Speaker 1: gatherings are a potential target. They try to maximize the

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Speaker 1: carnage in order to make a point. Terrorists are the

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Speaker 1: weakest link in warfare. There's not enough terrorists around the

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Speaker 1: field and army. So you have the lowest level, which

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Speaker 1: is terrorism, and then you have guerrilla warfare, and then

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Speaker 1: ultimately enough, have enough people to fly under color of

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Speaker 1: a flag. But terrorists like to project strength through their

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Speaker 1: violent acts. So any event that happens, are you going

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Speaker 1: to blame Donald Trump? And is that fair? Well, you

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Speaker 1: know you could see something. Look, commen, you should have

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Speaker 1: factored in the equation before you started dropping bombs. Okay, Now,

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Speaker 1: should fear along those lines stop the United States from

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Speaker 1: engaging in any given military effort? Now we can make

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Speaker 1: an argument about the constitutionality of the war all day long,

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Speaker 1: and it is I would are you a war? But

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Speaker 1: should fear prevent us from engaging in that conflict? Assuming

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Speaker 1: all the eyes where dotted and t's were costs, you

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Speaker 1: have a quote unquote valid authorized military conflict. Every single

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Speaker 1: military conflict comes along with the associated perils that your

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Speaker 1: enemy is going to engage well in retaliatory strikes, maybe

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Speaker 1: trying to defend itself or maybe trying to get you

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Speaker 1: to pull the plug on the military endeavor before you've

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Speaker 1: achieved your ultimate objective. Why, Because terrorists have been unleashed,

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Speaker 1: and you can add that to the shutting down of

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Speaker 1: the strait of horror moves. Aron finds itself in a position,

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Speaker 1: a unique position of power. They have really impacted the

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Speaker 1: global economy by shutting down at twenty miles stretch of

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Speaker 1: c Might that further be compounded the if sleeper cells

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Speaker 1: are activated and drones start dropping bombs or blowing things

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Speaker 1: up and more fundamentally, I think this goes beyond the

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Speaker 1: potential for drone strikes and the idea that there's a

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Speaker 1: boat floating out there with a drone to launch it

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Speaker 1: into California. What about the multitude of warehouses out there

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Speaker 1: in California? What about the sea of illegal immigrants, many

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Speaker 1: of whom not all, of course, many of whom have

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Speaker 1: affiliations with terrorists. We know this because we have found them.

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Speaker 1: Assuming you believe our intelligence reports, and you can say

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Speaker 1: there are a bunch of lies, but go ahead and

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Speaker 1: you can chase that fantasy. The millions I think of

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Speaker 1: undocumented in illegal immigrants that came across the border that

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Speaker 1: had no interaction with anyone at the border. Who are they?

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Speaker 1: There are tens of thousands of military age Chinese Communists. Well,

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Speaker 1: I won't say there are necessarily men that are affilied

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Speaker 1: with the Chinese Communists Party, but I think you and

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Speaker 1: I can both reach that conclusion. How would a military

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Speaker 1: age man from China be able to get out of

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Speaker 1: China and make it to the southern border to come

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Speaker 1: across if the Chinese Communist Party didn't let that person.

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Speaker 1: I'm going with coordinated effort. So, yes, lots and lots

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Speaker 1: of potential threats out there, and this has been built

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Speaker 1: now for years. Might they have embedded individuals Going back

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Speaker 1: to my warehouse point, Might they have smuggled in drones

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Speaker 1: or other hardware, explosive devices, equipment that could be used

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Speaker 1: for terrorist actions and they've been sitting on it in

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Speaker 1: some warehouse or storage facility or you know, locker to rent.

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Speaker 1: The drones themselves, aren't that big. Look at it ron.

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Speaker 1: They just got hit three more ships in the in

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Speaker 1: the area of the Strait of Hormouse with drones that

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Speaker 1: they still have in spite of the fact that we've

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Speaker 1: had this intensive bombing campaign. Daniel Davis pointed this out

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Speaker 1: on Tuesday. Those drones can be scattered literally anywhere. So

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Speaker 1: a bit of a threat going on here now. I

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Speaker 1: personally don't think it will be farably Donald Trump if

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Speaker 1: terrorists launch attacks, but you know it's coming hopefully not.

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Speaker 1: I will say, you know, that kind of attacks or

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Speaker 1: that kind of retort or you know, an attack on

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump for engaging in war is coming if there is,

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Speaker 1: he is a terrorist attack wherever it happens beyond our land.

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Speaker 1: Six seventeen. CJ's on the phone, fifty five KERCD talk station.

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Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to talk station fifty bo KERCDE talk station.

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Speaker 1: Congressman Thomas Massy's buying ad time here on the fifty

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Speaker 1: five Karsee Morning show. Part of the north of three

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Speaker 1: million dollars He's had to spend fending off Donald Trump's

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Speaker 1: efforts to unseat him in the primary with ed cowering,

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Speaker 1: challenging Congressman Massy, and real quick before I get to CJ,

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Speaker 1: I got to the point that I made earlier Donald

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Speaker 1: Trump yesterday while he was here in town. He's disloyal

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Speaker 1: to the Republican Party. Referring to MASSI he's disloaded the

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Speaker 1: people of Kentucky most importing these games, he says, disloaded

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Speaker 1: the United States of America. I just point out last time,

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Speaker 1: I pointed out again he swore an oath. He swore

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Speaker 1: it in his oath of office to uphold the Constitution,

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Speaker 1: not the Republican Party. And of course, insofar as a

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Speaker 1: big spending is concerned. You heard that Thomas Massey remains

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Speaker 1: a deficit hawk that used to be the Bailly Wick

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Speaker 1: of the Republican Party. And I think most notably, look

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Speaker 1: at Trump's first term and the amount of deficit we

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Speaker 1: increase under his first term, and it's on track to continue. Everybody,

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Speaker 1: he's a three hundred and ninety million over a billion

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Speaker 1: overspend last month flat but still deficit spending. He's on

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Speaker 1: track to further put us in the hole. So while

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Speaker 1: you may love what everything Donald Trump does and never

863
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Speaker 1: ever speak an ill word of him, that is, from

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Speaker 1: my estimation, a problem with the Republican Party. We're not

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Speaker 1: closely following the spending and we need to damn we'll

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Speaker 1: do something about this spending because we are in a

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Speaker 1: death spiral. CJ. Thanks for indulging me while I got

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Speaker 1: that out of my system. Welcome to the show. Thanks

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Speaker 1: for holding.

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Speaker 9: Oh, thank you, and you got me going listening to

871
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Speaker 9: you talk about the drones in California and everything going on.

872
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Speaker 9: This is nothing new. In fact, if you really want

873
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Speaker 9: to take a look at Maduro when we took him out,

874
00:48:47,840 --> 00:48:51,600
Speaker 9: that had yeah, we had an indictment against him and

875
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Speaker 9: all these other things, but the reality was he had

876
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Speaker 9: a daily flight to Tehran that was flying in and

877
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Speaker 9: out of practice. And we in US intelligence for a

878
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Speaker 9: long time has been saying they've been flying terrorists through

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Speaker 9: there to come up through the Central American Mexico into

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Speaker 9: the United States, or to train with Mexicans and cintral

881
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Speaker 9: American drug lords. You also have a number of other

882
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Speaker 9: issues going on. If Political did a story a couple

883
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Speaker 9: of years ago about a project to Soandra, and I've

884
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Speaker 9: been rereading it a little bit, and let me tell you,

885
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Speaker 9: John Brennan is one of the most disgusting men in

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Speaker 9: American history.

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Speaker 10: Here he is.

888
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Speaker 9: He's talking about how the US should encourage Lebanon in

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Speaker 9: twenty ten to assimilate Hesbolah into Lebanese politics during the

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Speaker 9: Obama administration, and how Lebanon was knowingly funneling money to

891
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Speaker 9: Central American terrorist organizations like FARK and other locations to

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Speaker 9: overthrow Colombia and drug lords to attack Columbia government installations

893
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Speaker 9: which were at the time aligned with the United States.

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Speaker 9: We knew all of this and did absolutely nothing. I

895
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Speaker 9: will tell you this over and over again. I know

896
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Speaker 9: Trump's gonna take the hit. I know He's going to

897
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Speaker 9: get all the pain, because that's what happens when you're

898
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Speaker 9: the leader and you're in power at that time. But

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Speaker 9: make no mistake, President Obama is going to go down

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Speaker 9: in history, if we have a fair reading of his history,

901
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Speaker 9: as the most destructive foreign policy president this country has

902
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Speaker 9: ever seen. And it was continued under Biden because he

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Speaker 9: brings all those people back in for those four years.

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Speaker 9: And the foreign policy that occurred under the Obama administration

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Speaker 9: is the reason why we are in this situation right now.

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Speaker 9: I will say, George Bush probably, you know what, once

907
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Speaker 9: they started laying those IEDs, he probably should have done

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Speaker 9: something about it.

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Speaker 11: But he's not.

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Speaker 9: The problem. Obama is because he was making excuses and

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Speaker 9: that administration was making excuses for Iran and has Belah

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Speaker 9: over and over again, and then all of a sudden,

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Speaker 9: you have these terrorists training in Mexican and Central American

914
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Speaker 9: compounds and they're training each other.

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Speaker 5: It is a mess.

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Speaker 1: The enemy of my enemy is right. That's I could

917
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Speaker 1: see this as being a logical conclusion for the Iranians

918
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Speaker 1: and maybe the North Koreans, maybe the Russians, maybe the Chinese.

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Speaker 1: The enemy of my enemy is my friends. Drug cartel

920
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Speaker 1: is sure. Maybe we don't like what they're doing, but

921
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Speaker 1: they are sure doing a world of hurt the United

922
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Speaker 1: States of America. Maybe we should join forces and work together.

923
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Speaker 1: So you've got an entire source south of our border

924
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Speaker 1: of potential terrorist threats emanating from well, the alliance that

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Speaker 1: you just mentioned. Yeah, it's frightening stuff. And I don't

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Speaker 1: think I have any criticism on where you think the

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Speaker 1: blame wise five win three seven eight hundred eight two

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Speaker 1: three dog more calls are perhaps local stories coming up,

929
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Speaker 1: but first pain you're feeling older than the talk station

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Speaker 1: six thirty one fifty bove KERCB talk station Local stories

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Speaker 1: and apologies. Perhaps to Janis Heisel, I mentioned she was

932
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Speaker 1: on the program actually talking about Minesota fraud. She's doing

933
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Speaker 1: the empower You Summinar tonight along with my guests. Later

934
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Speaker 1: in the program Bob Jewel eight fifteen with Bob on

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Speaker 1: the new Concealed Carry Laws, ED said, did you say

936
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Speaker 1: Janet sounded like you said Janet, it's Janis Well to

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Speaker 1: the extent I did. I didn't mean to. I was

938
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Speaker 1: reading off the screen which says Janis so record corrected.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Ed, I appreciate you listening to the program.

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Speaker 1: I'm not Rush Limbaugh always cracked me up. He's always

941
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Speaker 1: right one hundred percent of the time.

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Speaker 11: No, not me.

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Speaker 1: That's why I have listeners that call in and call

944
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Speaker 1: me out from time to time. Five one, three, seven, four,

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Speaker 1: nine fifty five eight hundred two three talk to do

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Speaker 1: just that.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Trump visited Thermo Fisher Scientific yesterday. Also showed up at

949
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Speaker 1: Versed Logistics in Hebrew, Kentucky. Of course, he was over

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Speaker 1: at the pharmaceutical and biotech company Fisher talking about lowering

951
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Speaker 1: the of drugs, but he obviously took it as a

952
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Speaker 1: opportunity to disc Congressman Thomas Massey. And I thought it

953
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Speaker 1: was rather interesting because this made national news as well.

954
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Speaker 1: Of course it did because Donald Trump was here and

955
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Speaker 1: the clash with Massy's widely been reported. Lots of money

956
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Speaker 1: spent by both sides in the run up to the primary,

957
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Speaker 1: money that normally wouldn't have to have been spent. But

958
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Speaker 1: I thought it was funny because Massy regularly clashes with Trump,

959
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Speaker 1: and these usually involved matters constitutional. I'll keep defending Massy

960
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Speaker 1: all day long about his fierce protection of the United

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Speaker 1: States Constitution. He remembers his oath of office. But one

962
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Speaker 1: of the things that irked Donald Trump about Massy was

963
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Speaker 1: his pushing forward for the release of the Epstein files.

964
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Speaker 1: And you know, he was Rocan. I think he joined

965
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Speaker 1: forces with to advance the bill to force the release

966
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Speaker 1: of the Epstein files. What was the overall vote on that,

967
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Speaker 1: I mean, it was overwhelming release the damn things. Trump

968
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Speaker 1: opposed the release, but of course she had to sign

969
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Speaker 1: the measure into law because they had an overwhelming veto

970
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Speaker 1: proof vote on that. So mm hmm. The problem for

971
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Speaker 1: Trump on that is he was one that was clamoring

972
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Speaker 1: to have them released not that long ago as part

973
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Speaker 1: of his campaign. Go ahead, it's a legitimate ask. What

974
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Speaker 1: the hell did Donald Trump run across that made him

975
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Speaker 1: do a one eighty on that? Nothing in there about

976
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Speaker 1: him apparently, although I do still see memes out there

977
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Speaker 1: saying that it proves he was a pedophile or something. Okay,

978
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Speaker 1: go ahead and cling to that. And I bet you

979
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Speaker 1: still believe in Russian collusion as well. Anyway, pivoting over

980
00:54:45,440 --> 00:54:48,840
Speaker 1: second suspect arrested. Prosecutor's office here in Hamilton County believes

981
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Speaker 1: is a targeted shooting, leaving one man dead in downtown

982
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Speaker 1: Cincinnati sinceat PDE's Fugitive Apprehensive Squad addrested Philip Shaw yesterday.

983
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Speaker 1: Philip Shaw, forty one years old, for the murder of

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Speaker 1: the thirty four year old Justin Johnson, five months after

985
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Speaker 1: police arrested the other guy involved, allegedly fifty year old

986
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Speaker 1: Robert Shaw, accused of murdering Johnson outside the in Between

987
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Speaker 1: Tavern that took place last October seventeenth. Hamilin Kinty Prosecutor's

988
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Speaker 1: Office confirmed the two suspects or brothers that they intentionally

989
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Speaker 1: targeted the victim. Prosecutor's office claimed Johnson had just left

990
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Speaker 1: the in Between tavern when the shooting happened, got in

991
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Speaker 1: his car. Robert then drove by, firing multiple rounds at him,

992
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Speaker 1: and then drove away. Police and EMS crews dispatched to

993
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Speaker 1: the area two'clock in the morning found Johnson inside the

994
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Speaker 1: VMW with multiple gunshot wounds, and he died at the scene.

995
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Speaker 1: Prosecutor's office could not confirm why the brothers allegedly murdered

996
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Speaker 1: the victim, but Hamilton County Grand Jurion died of Philip

997
00:55:47,719 --> 00:55:50,799
Speaker 1: on multiple charges aggravated murder, three counts of murder, two

998
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Speaker 1: counts Siflonianus to saw three counts of having weapons while

999
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Speaker 1: out a disability, one kind of theft, one kind of

1000
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Speaker 1: receiving stolen property, and a partridge into paratree. Other brother

1001
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Speaker 1: indicted on this same charges, along with one kind of

1002
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Speaker 1: tampering with evidence. Both suspects previously convicted felons. John, I'm

1003
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Speaker 1: surprised they're not out on the street on an own

1004
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Speaker 1: recognizance bond. It's coming six point thirty six fifty five

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Speaker 1: KRS six Talk station sixty one fifty five krc DE

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Speaker 1: Talk Station Eppy Friday, Eve five on three seven four

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Speaker 1: nine fifty eight hundred eight two three talk. Maybe you

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Speaker 1: want to chime in. Marsha has sent me a Facebook

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Speaker 1: regarding my comments of a Congress from Massy. Not everybody

1010
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Speaker 1: interprets the constitition in the same way exactly. I mean,

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Speaker 1: that's what a comment we bring up every time when

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Speaker 1: Judge Edted of Paul Tana's on and he reaches an

1013
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Speaker 1: opinion that's contrary to something maybe Donald Trump wants to do,

1014
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Speaker 1: or contrary to what you believe the interpretation is. There

1015
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Speaker 1: are strict constructionists and originalists who believe the language is

1016
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Speaker 1: what the language is, and it isn't subject of wide

1017
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Speaker 1: varying interpretation. Supreme courts made up mostly of those folks.

1018
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Speaker 1: That's how you have that bruined decision. Where what did

1019
00:56:54,960 --> 00:56:56,840
Speaker 1: the concert, what did the what is the meaning of

1020
00:56:56,920 --> 00:57:00,239
Speaker 1: the Second Amendment? When the founders passed the Second Amendment

1021
00:57:00,320 --> 00:57:02,120
Speaker 1: or an act of the Second Amendment or adopted it,

1022
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Speaker 1: the right keeping baronne shall not be infringe? What did

1023
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Speaker 1: they have at the time that was adopted. It was

1024
00:57:07,239 --> 00:57:09,480
Speaker 1: pretty much there are no laws prohibiting you from having

1025
00:57:09,520 --> 00:57:13,440
Speaker 1: a gun. That's what was there under an originalist interpretation.

1026
00:57:14,160 --> 00:57:15,960
Speaker 1: Now others want to say, no, no, no, no, it

1027
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Speaker 1: doesn't mean that. It means this. And by the way,

1028
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Speaker 1: they didn't contemplate the existence of an AR fifteen, and

1029
00:57:21,080 --> 00:57:23,080
Speaker 1: they you couldn't own a canon even though you could.

1030
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Speaker 1: So there is that, But it's a fair interpretation. The

1031
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Speaker 1: problem is the living, breathing folks that think the Constitution

1032
00:57:31,720 --> 00:57:33,560
Speaker 1: doesn't really mean what it says, or it's subject to

1033
00:57:33,720 --> 00:57:37,960
Speaker 1: broad and varying interpretation. This leaves you sort of unmoored.

1034
00:57:39,040 --> 00:57:42,040
Speaker 1: If you're in front of one judge and in front

1035
00:57:42,080 --> 00:57:44,160
Speaker 1: of another judge in the same or similar cases, you

1036
00:57:44,160 --> 00:57:47,320
Speaker 1: could reach completely polar opposite outcomes, because one may be

1037
00:57:47,520 --> 00:57:50,960
Speaker 1: a living, breathing constitution here. Let me interpret those words

1038
00:57:51,000 --> 00:58:00,240
Speaker 1: to mean something the founding fathers never even contemplated in

1039
00:58:00,280 --> 00:58:05,520
Speaker 1: lies a challenge. He's not wrong. Some may view his

1040
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Speaker 1: interpretation as perhaps a little bit too conservative. Anyway, back

1041
00:58:10,520 --> 00:58:12,720
Speaker 1: over to these sleeper cells and the well. Donald Trump

1042
00:58:12,760 --> 00:58:15,520
Speaker 1: actually addressed sleeper cells in the context of these potential

1043
00:58:15,640 --> 00:58:17,800
Speaker 1: drone attacks that the FBI is warning about that may

1044
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Speaker 1: happen out in California. He was talking to reporters yesterday

1045
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Speaker 1: on Air Force One. Asked about this law enforcement bulletin

1046
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Speaker 1: from FBI that I mentioned about drone attacks, He said,

1047
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Speaker 1: it is being investigated. You have a lot of things happening,

1048
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Speaker 1: and all we can do is taking them as they come.

1049
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Speaker 1: Then pivoted over, he said he was briefed about potential

1050
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Speaker 1: Iranian sleeper cells inside the United States. He said, we

1051
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Speaker 1: know where most of them are. We've got our eyes

1052
00:58:48,360 --> 00:58:50,920
Speaker 1: on all of them. Now you go ahead and try

1053
00:58:50,960 --> 00:58:53,400
Speaker 1: to reconcile knowing where most are versus we have all

1054
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Speaker 1: of them with our eyes on. That may be at

1055
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Speaker 1: least partially true. Go with the most. Going back to

1056
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Speaker 1: how they got into our country in the first place,

1057
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Speaker 1: Joe Biden, and the idea that ICE may be going

1058
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Speaker 1: out there is part of its effort, perhaps maybe even

1059
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Speaker 1: one of the primary efforts. Yes, they are running into

1060
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Speaker 1: some complications, and of course the ICE protesters are out there.

1061
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Speaker 1: They don't like when American citizens are targeted. But I

1062
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Speaker 1: do like the idea that ICE is out there looking

1063
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Speaker 1: for Runnie and sleeper cells perhaps or any other terrorist

1064
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Speaker 1: sleeper cells that may exist. And I guess I got

1065
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Speaker 1: to ask you, what would you do if the power

1066
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Speaker 1: went out? And I want to be an alarmist, but

1067
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Speaker 1: even our own federal government has recommendations for you, well,

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Speaker 1: little interruptions in our day to day life, you know,

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Speaker 1: having like three at least three days worth of food

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Speaker 1: and water in your house, ability to computicate, maybe access

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Speaker 1: to a radio, batteries, backup light. But if the power

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Speaker 1: goes out, because it's easy to do. All you need

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Speaker 1: to do is take an improvised explosive advice and blow

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Speaker 1: it up at one of your transmission plants. And this

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Speaker 1: has happened before. We've seen maybe even test runs of

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Speaker 1: this kind of thing. People show up, nefarious, evil actors

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Speaker 1: show up with a bunch of firearms and just start

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Speaker 1: getting all shooty on a local transmission plant it goes

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Speaker 1: out of commission. That could shut out a sector. If

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Speaker 1: this happens along multiple areas, you can wipe out entire

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Speaker 1: part of the grid. And then what are the software

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Speaker 1: the nefarious software that has been loaded up as we

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Speaker 1: have discovered many many times over the years, foreign actors

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Speaker 1: skitting inside our systems, maybe even with the capability just

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Speaker 1: flipping a swip and make a switch and making an

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Speaker 1: entire i don't know, entire region of the country go dark,

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Speaker 1: which has happened before. Natural disasters have caused that. So

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Speaker 1: maybe time to start thinking along those lines, because I

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Speaker 1: would probably venture to guess the vast majority of people

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Speaker 1: are not prepared for even a small interruption over multiple days.

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Speaker 1: We've had this happen. Remember when the tornado Wins came

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Speaker 1: or when the hurricane Wins came through some years ago

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Speaker 1: and powers out for a lot of people for a week,

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Speaker 1: But that was in isolated areas. I'm talking about a

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Speaker 1: situation where nothing is working. You can't log in online,

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Speaker 1: there is no online service, you don't have access to

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Speaker 1: your ATM machines. Something you might want to think about

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Speaker 1: perhaps having some extra real, genuine US cash and currency

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Speaker 1: in your possession. Six forty six fifty five krc the

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Speaker 1: talk station. Wow, what a perfect time to mention Gate

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Speaker 1: of Heaven Cemetery. You to think of the after six

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Speaker 1: If you want to think about KRCD talk station. Happy

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Speaker 1: Friday Eve. You're gonna go to the phone. It's got

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Speaker 1: several callers online. You take them in the order in

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Speaker 1: which they received, meaning New Hampshire, Gary is first. Welcome back, Gary.

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Speaker 1: Always good to hear from you, Hey.

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Speaker 5: Brian, how you doing.

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Speaker 11: It's good to hear from you, bro Hey. I just

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Speaker 11: want to throw in.

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Speaker 5: My two cents.

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Speaker 2: It's just my two cents on the Politano and Thomas Mansey.

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Speaker 2: Really it's it's my belief that the constitution's been dead

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Speaker 2: for the last fifty years. Yeah, And I believe that

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Speaker 2: both Napolitano and Matthew to an extent, they're just playing

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Speaker 2: rules for radicals. Even in rules for radicals, you know,

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Speaker 2: you have to make one side stick to the rules

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Speaker 2: while you allow the other side to continue in the

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Speaker 2: agenda you want. And I think if if you listen

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Speaker 2: to I'm gone, and I enjoy listening to him, you know,

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Speaker 2: but if you go to their websites, it can tell

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Speaker 2: who they are by who they hang out with. You know,

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Speaker 2: I know Napolitano's good friends with Dick Durban and you

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Speaker 2: know Danang Dick we call him because he was such

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Speaker 2: a liar.

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Speaker 1: You know, I have no idea about that. I have

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Speaker 1: no idea whatsoever who Napoletan is friends with. And listen,

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you what. I willute that notion. I will

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Speaker 1: refute that notion all day long because I purfased a

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Speaker 1: couple of my very best friends, two men who I

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Speaker 1: have an extreme amount of respect for. Intelligent, is hell

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Speaker 1: fun to be around. They are far left wingers, my friend,

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Speaker 1: and they do not represent me in any way, shape

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Speaker 1: or form. So you know, there's always that.

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Speaker 5: No, no, I get it.

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Speaker 1: But it's just my opinion, you know, and you're entitled

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Speaker 1: to it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, but I think they're playing rules for radical

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Speaker 2: That's what I believe, you know.

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Speaker 1: Well, and you know I quite and ins far as

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Speaker 1: you're comment about the Constitution being dead for like fifty

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Speaker 1: years at least inso far as war powers are concerned,

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Speaker 1: I would agree, because we've been waging wars now since

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Speaker 1: World War Two with no authorization from Congress whatsoever. It's

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Speaker 1: as if the concept doesn't even exist for the declaration

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Speaker 1: of wars required by Congress, which is exactly how I

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Speaker 1: read the Constitution. Maybe they just struggle with quaint notions

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Speaker 1: of originalism, maybe the ideas that they that they are

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Speaker 1: hanging onto we cannot have in a society that moves

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Speaker 1: as rapidly as it does these days. I understand the arguments,

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Speaker 1: and I appreciate the complexities of trying to cling to

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Speaker 1: the originalist interpretation of the Constitution, but I personally believe

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Speaker 1: that you know, if you're having a if the supreme

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Speaker 1: law of the land is overlooked or played fast and

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Speaker 1: loose with regularly, I think you end up in a

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Speaker 1: constitutional crisis. You've eroded the value of that supreme law

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Speaker 1: of the land by playing fast and loose, and that

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Speaker 1: just allows the avenue to open up for more, you know,

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Speaker 1: open interpretation, otherwise ignoring the other caveats and provisions of

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Speaker 1: the Constitution, most notably going back to the Politano, does

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Speaker 1: it really feel like we have a fourth Amendment any more?

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Speaker 1: Considering the fis of warrants and they can just just

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Speaker 1: scoop up literally everything that you have by way of

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Speaker 1: communication simply because you talk to a foreign person. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: quaint notions of the Fourth Amendment, right to be free

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Speaker 1: of unreasonable searches and caesars. It says probable cause and

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Speaker 1: a warrant. He used to take comfort in that idea.

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Speaker 1: Let's see what Who's next, Jim Jim, thanks for calling

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Speaker 1: this morning. Welcome to the show.

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Speaker 11: Good morning, Brian.

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Speaker 5: Several things.

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Speaker 11: We'll start with Sherah Long. Don't you realize that shera

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Speaker 11: Wngan is by not allowing the cops to do their

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Speaker 11: jobs and all these black kids to be killed, she's

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Speaker 11: helping the green environment because they're no longer breathing out

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Speaker 11: carbon to Hawk's side, So she's doing her job down there.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I guess you could make that argument.

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Speaker 11: Secondly, you had somebody on about the schools the other day,

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Speaker 11: or the tax the way the property tax, and whoever

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Speaker 11: was all on there was right. I was on the

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Speaker 11: school board here in West Clarmont. We were about to

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Speaker 11: go into receivership by the state, got a new superintendent,

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Speaker 11: Keith wind and for six years we had no levies.

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Speaker 11: He cut all the waist at the top and within

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Speaker 11: a year we were back to where we should be.

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Speaker 11: And it's just you know, just to many administrators doing nothing,

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Speaker 11: and that's that's killing the schools fair enough.

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Speaker 1: That's why people are clamming for some relief from property taxes.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's question of how the money's generated and then,

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Speaker 1: as is with all things, how it's being spent. And

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Speaker 1: I wish our elected officials would follow follow the follow

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Speaker 1: carefully the dollars that they take from us and send

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Speaker 1: out into the world to see if those are actually

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Speaker 1: doing anything good or being wasted or being sucked up

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Speaker 1: with fraud. Don't go away. Coming off off the top

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Speaker 1: of our news in studio, Judge Christopher McDowell about well

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Speaker 1: basically violence breaking out in the Hamilton County Courthouse. Matt

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Speaker 1: de maris the bourbon raffle for my veteran friends out

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Speaker 1: there vets and Bruce Matt de Maris at seven thirty

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Speaker 1: stick around, be right back after the news we put

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Speaker 1: the app in Happening Our nation is back seven o

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Speaker 1: six There Vicky five KARSD talk station. Brian Thomers is

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Speaker 1: a here with in studio Judge Christopher McDowell and Chris

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Speaker 1: McDowell is going to give us a load down on

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Speaker 1: what's going over with the Hamilton County Courthouse and a

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Speaker 1: little insight. Would it's liked to be a judge sitting

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Speaker 1: in the Hamilton County Court of Common please. He's been

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Speaker 1: there since twenty twenty five. His term ends this year.

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Speaker 1: He is on the ballot. There is a primary coming up,

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Speaker 1: but he's running on a posed on the Republican side

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Speaker 1: of the ledger. So Chris McDowell will invariably be on

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Speaker 1: the ballot in November. And he's one of the good

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Speaker 1: ones folks. He gets bonds, He understands the criminal justice system,

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Speaker 1: and of course he understands the concept of the justice

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Speaker 1: system being used for deterrence. If you deserve to be

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Speaker 1: sentenced and put away for a long time, Judge McDowell

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Speaker 1: is going to do that, most notably an area of fentanyl.

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Speaker 1: As I learned from him. Judge McDowell, great to have

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Speaker 1: you here today. Thanks for making the time to come in.

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Speaker 1: It's great to be here. And by the way, you

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Speaker 1: look good. Oh thanks man, you say that. I so

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Speaker 1: of my listeners. I won't be in on Monday and

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Speaker 1: Tuesday next week. Today is the first of the two

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Speaker 1: days of treatment. I get so I'm going in for

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Speaker 1: my chemo my retuction MAV treatment today, another chemo treatment tomorrow,

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Speaker 1: and for the last several treatments, it's wiped me out.

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Speaker 1: So Monday and Tuesday we're going to have who's filling

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Speaker 1: and Dan Carroll's filling in for me. So thank you

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Speaker 1: for bringing that up. It's a kind thing for you

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Speaker 1: to say, and God bless anybody out there struggling with

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Speaker 1: cancer and their families. Ripple effect is not cool. Let

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Speaker 1: us pivot back. The impetus behind the discussion we're going

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Speaker 1: to start out with this morning was the brawl that

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Speaker 1: broke out inside of Judge Winkler's courtroom. There was a

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Speaker 1: sentencing hearing and apparently the family of the victim was

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Speaker 1: not real happy and believe the sentence is handed out

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Speaker 1: by Judge Winkler was lenient twelve to seventeen and a

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Speaker 1: half years in connection with I believe a murder. Right, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it was a murder case. So the family reacts and

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Speaker 1: then a brawl breaks out and it spills over into

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Speaker 1: the hallway. You were right next door, basically right down

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Speaker 1: the hall. Just explain what you had to deal with

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Speaker 1: and then how this is sort of representative of a

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Speaker 1: broader problem with lawlessness in the courthouse. Yeah, if we.

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Speaker 12: Go back to a week before this brawl, I had

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Speaker 12: contacted the Sheriff's office and told them that we needed

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Speaker 12: greater security. The day before this happened, I met with

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Speaker 12: the Sheriff's office and I said, something's going to happen.

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Speaker 12: We need more security in this courthouse. In the common

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Speaker 12: Police courtroom, what a lot of people don't know is

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Speaker 12: day and day out, there is no security in the

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Speaker 12: Common Police court. You go downstairs where they're doing traffic cases,

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Speaker 12: there is always a bailiff there in those courtrooms. In

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Speaker 12: my courtroom, the only time there's really security is when

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Speaker 12: someone's bringing down an inmate, and that deputy's duty is

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Speaker 12: to the inmate that he's brought down.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they bring him into the courtroom and they stand

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Speaker 1: there and wait for the proceedings to get over and

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Speaker 1: take him back.

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Speaker 5: Right.

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Speaker 12: And what happened in this day is I heard a

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Speaker 12: ruckus in the hallway about a half hour before the brawl,

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Speaker 12: and people were telling me that you know that there

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Speaker 12: was a murder case down there. The families was in

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Speaker 12: the hall where in the hallway they were yelling at

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Speaker 12: the defendant, and then half hour later, just all heck

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Speaker 12: broke loose. I had an inmate in my courtroom with

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Speaker 12: a deputy, and I could hear his radio go off

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Speaker 12: that there was an They had pushed the panic button

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Speaker 12: in Judge Winkler's courtroom, and so all the deputies were responding.

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Speaker 12: And I asked the deputy in my room, do you

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Speaker 12: need to respond that to that? And he said, well,

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Speaker 12: I can't because I have this person here. I've got

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Speaker 12: to watch this person. And I said, you want to

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Speaker 12: take him back? He said yes, So I allowed him

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Speaker 12: to take it back. Then I went out into the

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Speaker 12: hallway to see what was going on, and I saw

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Speaker 12: about forty people. Forty people engaged in a fight in

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Speaker 12: the hallway, and I saw deputies just streaming down the hallway,

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Speaker 12: other police department agencies. Everybody was responding. I saw police

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Speaker 12: officers putting handcuffs on people, dragging them out of the fight.

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Speaker 13: It was an all on brawl.

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Speaker 12: And then what happens that spilled out into the street.

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Speaker 12: They had to close two streets in front of the

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Speaker 12: courthouse down, and then they closed the courthouse down, locked

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Speaker 12: it down.

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Speaker 1: I Joe Trekker's in my head said, you didn't hear

1287
01:10:41,200 --> 01:10:44,000
Speaker 1: that in the news. Well, that's why my reaction is silence.

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Speaker 1: I had no idea that it was that bad.

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Speaker 12: Well, I'll tell you one other thing. There was a

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01:10:48,760 --> 01:10:52,320
Speaker 12: homicide detective who was testifying in that murder case and

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01:10:52,479 --> 01:10:55,160
Speaker 12: he was hurt. He struck his head and he got

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Speaker 12: a concussion, and he was expected to testify that same

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01:10:58,320 --> 01:11:01,760
Speaker 12: day in another murder case in another court room. And

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01:11:01,880 --> 01:11:04,000
Speaker 12: that other murder case they were picking a jury, they

1295
01:11:04,040 --> 01:11:06,640
Speaker 12: were just about to swear the jury in when they

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01:11:06,720 --> 01:11:10,280
Speaker 12: had to call off the whole case because that homicide

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Speaker 12: detective was so injured that he could not testify in

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Speaker 12: the other murder case.

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Speaker 1: Well, in addition to shutting the entire courthouse down, yes,

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01:11:17,800 --> 01:11:21,760
Speaker 1: that proceeding was not going to go forward. So it

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Speaker 1: is this illustrative of a broader problem. I mean, I

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01:11:27,160 --> 01:11:29,559
Speaker 1: think this compared to when I used to work there,

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01:11:29,600 --> 01:11:31,360
Speaker 1: and we're going back a lot of years. Judge it

1304
01:11:31,439 --> 01:11:33,360
Speaker 1: was the early eighties of work for Judge Panieto in

1305
01:11:33,400 --> 01:11:35,280
Speaker 1: the fourth floor in the Domestic Relations court, which is

1306
01:11:35,360 --> 01:11:38,880
Speaker 1: no longer there. But I never even had a sense

1307
01:11:38,960 --> 01:11:42,560
Speaker 1: of concern at all about safety in the courthouse. It

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01:11:42,640 --> 01:11:44,559
Speaker 1: was like, to me, the last place in the world

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01:11:44,640 --> 01:11:47,920
Speaker 1: anybody would want to start getting violent or committing some

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01:11:48,000 --> 01:11:50,080
Speaker 1: sort of crime, because there are a lot of sheriff's

1311
01:11:50,120 --> 01:11:52,720
Speaker 1: deputies walking around the building there. As you point out,

1312
01:11:52,760 --> 01:11:55,040
Speaker 1: they're there for a variety of different reasons. But you

1313
01:11:55,160 --> 01:11:58,200
Speaker 1: had an unbelievable sense of security. I guess those days

1314
01:11:58,200 --> 01:11:58,839
Speaker 1: are gone.

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Speaker 13: Entirely gone.

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Speaker 12: The people have no respect for the wall, they have

1317
01:12:03,439 --> 01:12:06,000
Speaker 12: no respect for themselves, they have no respect to our

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01:12:06,120 --> 01:12:09,840
Speaker 12: institutions of government in any way. It's people who are

1319
01:12:09,880 --> 01:12:13,000
Speaker 12: sitting in the gallery. They'll just stand up and start yelling,

1320
01:12:13,439 --> 01:12:17,160
Speaker 12: yelling at me, yelling at the other people in the courtroom,

1321
01:12:17,280 --> 01:12:19,160
Speaker 12: and I have to throw them out of the courtroom.

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01:12:19,960 --> 01:12:21,160
Speaker 1: Can you find them in contempt?

1323
01:12:21,360 --> 01:12:23,160
Speaker 12: I can find people in contempt. And one of the

1324
01:12:23,160 --> 01:12:25,479
Speaker 12: reasons I went out into the hallway is I have

1325
01:12:25,600 --> 01:12:29,559
Speaker 12: the authority to, you know, just basically summarily, summarily find

1326
01:12:29,600 --> 01:12:31,200
Speaker 12: someone in contempt and I can hold you up for

1327
01:12:31,280 --> 01:12:32,120
Speaker 12: up to six months.

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01:12:33,200 --> 01:12:34,519
Speaker 1: Have you had to invoke that power?

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01:12:34,880 --> 01:12:38,760
Speaker 12: No, I'm not yet. Usually when I yell at people

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01:12:38,800 --> 01:12:41,680
Speaker 12: and kick them out of the courtroom, that's sufficient.

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01:12:41,280 --> 01:12:43,599
Speaker 1: And well, that still works. I'm shocked that that still

1332
01:12:43,640 --> 01:12:46,680
Speaker 1: works your honor, I really am, because if they have

1333
01:12:46,840 --> 01:12:50,559
Speaker 1: enough lack of respect for you and the courtroom proceedings generally,

1334
01:12:51,960 --> 01:12:55,120
Speaker 1: then I can't imagine, you know, you're yelling and at

1335
01:12:55,160 --> 01:12:56,320
Speaker 1: them would have any impact.

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01:12:56,880 --> 01:13:00,560
Speaker 12: Well, and that was my concern is someday there's not

1337
01:13:00,760 --> 01:13:02,640
Speaker 12: that's not going to happen, and someone's gonna come at

1338
01:13:02,720 --> 01:13:05,720
Speaker 12: me and there's no one between that gallery and me

1339
01:13:06,240 --> 01:13:08,800
Speaker 12: unless there just happens to be a deputy in the room.

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01:13:09,120 --> 01:13:11,120
Speaker 1: Well, you know, I do remember when I worked for

1341
01:13:11,920 --> 01:13:16,760
Speaker 1: the for Judge Panioto, one of the magistrates actually pulled

1342
01:13:16,760 --> 01:13:18,920
Speaker 1: out a firearm headed in his top drawer. So I

1343
01:13:19,000 --> 01:13:20,640
Speaker 1: know some of the judges at least are armed, and

1344
01:13:20,680 --> 01:13:22,639
Speaker 1: I can certainly understand the reason why they might want

1345
01:13:22,640 --> 01:13:25,479
Speaker 1: to be. You never won't have to to use that

1346
01:13:25,520 --> 01:13:28,760
Speaker 1: as a last resort, but if you're threatened with a

1347
01:13:28,920 --> 01:13:32,360
Speaker 1: violent circumstance where your life is in peril, you reasonably

1348
01:13:32,400 --> 01:13:34,200
Speaker 1: perceive it to be you are allowed to do that.

1349
01:13:34,800 --> 01:13:36,680
Speaker 1: And if you don't have enough shriff's deputies around to

1350
01:13:36,720 --> 01:13:39,040
Speaker 1: help you out and avoid that kind of thing. I mean,

1351
01:13:39,320 --> 01:13:41,160
Speaker 1: it seems to me maybe a moment in time, given

1352
01:13:41,200 --> 01:13:43,360
Speaker 1: how unruly folks are in the court system, we moment

1353
01:13:43,400 --> 01:13:46,720
Speaker 1: in time away from something like that happening. Anyway, do

1354
01:13:46,760 --> 01:13:49,840
Speaker 1: you mentioned in our conversation off air the juvenile courts

1355
01:13:49,880 --> 01:13:54,040
Speaker 1: a real problem within the juvenile courts generally. So, what's

1356
01:13:54,120 --> 01:13:55,679
Speaker 1: what's going on over in the juvenile courts.

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01:13:55,800 --> 01:14:00,280
Speaker 12: Well, there's no repercussions for people's actions. These juveniles are

1358
01:14:00,360 --> 01:14:03,920
Speaker 12: out committing crimes on our streets, they get apprehended. When

1359
01:14:03,920 --> 01:14:06,719
Speaker 12: they do get apprehended, they're taken to the juvenile court

1360
01:14:07,120 --> 01:14:09,240
Speaker 12: and then you know, they're given an essay to write

1361
01:14:09,280 --> 01:14:13,080
Speaker 12: for violent offense or they're just told to come back later.

1362
01:14:13,680 --> 01:14:17,360
Speaker 12: They're not getting consequences for their actions. Twenty twenty, which

1363
01:14:17,400 --> 01:14:22,160
Speaker 12: is a juvenile holding center is practically empty. They just

1364
01:14:22,280 --> 01:14:25,600
Speaker 12: are not incarcerating juveniles at all. In juveniles know this.

1365
01:14:26,320 --> 01:14:29,800
Speaker 12: They're not stupid. They know they know there's no consequences

1366
01:14:29,840 --> 01:14:32,800
Speaker 12: for their actions. There's no consequence at home, and there's

1367
01:14:32,840 --> 01:14:35,880
Speaker 12: no consequences in the court system for the way they behave.

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01:14:35,840 --> 01:14:40,000
Speaker 1: Well, and this is what the left wingers, the reform

1369
01:14:40,080 --> 01:14:43,640
Speaker 1: advocates argue that, well, we can't give a juvenile a

1370
01:14:43,880 --> 01:14:48,120
Speaker 1: record because that'll render him, in error's case, maybe incapable

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01:14:48,120 --> 01:14:50,599
Speaker 1: of getting employment, that record will follow them throughout their

1372
01:14:50,720 --> 01:14:52,240
Speaker 1: entire life. Well, you and I both know you can

1373
01:14:52,280 --> 01:14:55,320
Speaker 1: have those records expunge at some point. If, for example,

1374
01:14:55,640 --> 01:14:58,320
Speaker 1: they take and they learn the lesson from being processed

1375
01:14:58,360 --> 01:15:01,360
Speaker 1: through the justice system and suffer fringing a consequence for it,

1376
01:15:01,439 --> 01:15:03,360
Speaker 1: maybe they won't do it again, and then they'll be

1377
01:15:03,400 --> 01:15:05,160
Speaker 1: worthy of having the record expunge down the road.

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01:15:05,479 --> 01:15:09,000
Speaker 12: Well, in addition, juvenile records are sealed, sealed, sealed, They're

1379
01:15:09,000 --> 01:15:10,080
Speaker 12: sealed from the very beginning.

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01:15:10,200 --> 01:15:12,320
Speaker 1: So I see that's the development I was not aware.

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01:15:12,400 --> 01:15:15,000
Speaker 12: Yeah, so once you turn eighteen, it's the employer can't

1382
01:15:15,000 --> 01:15:16,720
Speaker 12: look you up on the computer like you could an

1383
01:15:16,760 --> 01:15:19,960
Speaker 12: adult and see the juvenile record, and so they're sealed

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01:15:20,000 --> 01:15:22,760
Speaker 12: from the very beginning. So there's really not a good

1385
01:15:22,840 --> 01:15:25,920
Speaker 12: reason to not have a consequence in juvenile court.

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01:15:26,080 --> 01:15:28,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, you certainly don't want to perpetuate that. What I

1387
01:15:28,520 --> 01:15:31,160
Speaker 1: wish was a myth that there will be no consequences.

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01:15:31,360 --> 01:15:34,080
Speaker 1: There are clearly no consequences for them, and ergo no

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01:15:34,160 --> 01:15:35,320
Speaker 1: incentive to follow the law.

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01:15:35,520 --> 01:15:37,280
Speaker 12: Yeah, and then they grow up and they end up

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01:15:37,320 --> 01:15:39,880
Speaker 12: in my court room where there is a consequence.

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01:15:39,479 --> 01:15:41,880
Speaker 1: Huge consequence. Yeah, you want to be in front of

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01:15:41,960 --> 01:15:44,840
Speaker 1: Chris McDowell on a criminal rap. Oh no, you don't.

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Speaker 1: Let's talk about that because I know you have a

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01:15:47,280 --> 01:15:51,160
Speaker 1: few murder cases on your docket. This is frightening stuff, folks.

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Speaker 1: We're going to continue with Judge McDowell after these brief words,

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Speaker 1: beginning with foreign Exchange. I love Foreign Exchange head Austin

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Speaker 1: from me talk station videbov KRC detalk station. Happy Friday Eve.

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Speaker 1: You know when some veterans loved the bottom of the art.

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01:16:05,920 --> 01:16:08,519
Speaker 1: Matthemrison turns to Bets and Bruce gives some insight on

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01:16:08,600 --> 01:16:11,320
Speaker 1: the information on the bourbon raffle. In the meantime, Judge

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Speaker 1: Christopher McDowell, he is on Hamilt County Quartacama Police Bench

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01:16:14,479 --> 01:16:16,360
Speaker 1: and he'll be there until November when we'll have an

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01:16:16,360 --> 01:16:18,120
Speaker 1: opportunity to vote him back into the bench. You won

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01:16:18,240 --> 01:16:20,160
Speaker 1: him there. He's tough on crime and he understands the

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01:16:20,320 --> 01:16:23,960
Speaker 1: realities and the purpose of bonds. You got a lot

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01:16:24,000 --> 01:16:26,160
Speaker 1: of I will call woke judges. That are my label,

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01:16:26,240 --> 01:16:30,800
Speaker 1: not yours, judge. It always blows my mind when a recidivous,

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01:16:30,880 --> 01:16:33,320
Speaker 1: someone who has an extensive criminal background ends up in

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01:16:33,360 --> 01:16:35,240
Speaker 1: front of one of these woke judges, as I like

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01:16:35,320 --> 01:16:38,640
Speaker 1: to call them, and they're issued either a own recognizance

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01:16:38,720 --> 01:16:41,519
Speaker 1: bond or a very very low cash bond, you know,

1413
01:16:41,560 --> 01:16:43,479
Speaker 1: a few one thousand dollars ten percent. You got to

1414
01:16:43,479 --> 01:16:45,639
Speaker 1: put one hundred bucks down and you got a felony

1415
01:16:45,760 --> 01:16:49,200
Speaker 1: rap sheet. You were caught with a weapon while under disability.

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01:16:49,200 --> 01:16:50,720
Speaker 1: I mean, you're not allowed to have a weapon. How

1417
01:16:50,720 --> 01:16:52,280
Speaker 1: does somebody like that get on the street. Don't they

1418
01:16:52,320 --> 01:16:55,479
Speaker 1: represent a threat to the public at large as well

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01:16:55,479 --> 01:16:56,240
Speaker 1: as a flight risk?

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Speaker 12: All that absolutely. One of the things that I've started doing,

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01:17:00,439 --> 01:17:03,200
Speaker 12: and one of the things people don't understand is the

1422
01:17:03,479 --> 01:17:06,960
Speaker 12: bonds are initially set by the municipal court judges. So

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01:17:07,080 --> 01:17:10,719
Speaker 12: it's not until after someone is indicted on the felony

1424
01:17:11,080 --> 01:17:13,120
Speaker 12: that they come up to the Common Police Court and

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01:17:13,200 --> 01:17:15,080
Speaker 12: at that time and only at that time, can I

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01:17:15,160 --> 01:17:18,519
Speaker 12: set a bond. So you saw this shooting at this nightclub.

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01:17:18,880 --> 01:17:22,320
Speaker 12: That person has not been indicted yet, so the municipal

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01:17:22,360 --> 01:17:25,679
Speaker 12: court judge sets that bond, and I have no authority

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01:17:25,760 --> 01:17:28,679
Speaker 12: over that bond until the person's been indicted. It used

1430
01:17:28,680 --> 01:17:31,760
Speaker 12: to be that the common Police magistrate would set the

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01:17:31,840 --> 01:17:35,000
Speaker 12: bond once they were indicted. Now there's a couple of

1432
01:17:35,080 --> 01:17:41,680
Speaker 12: us more socially conscious of violent criminals. We set our

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01:17:41,720 --> 01:17:43,920
Speaker 12: own bonds. I bring them into this morning. I have

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01:17:44,080 --> 01:17:46,920
Speaker 12: two cases in which I'm going to be doing the arraignments,

1435
01:17:46,960 --> 01:17:49,519
Speaker 12: and I'm going to be setting the bonds personally because

1436
01:17:49,520 --> 01:17:52,559
Speaker 12: these people are on my docket. I'm responsible for these cases,

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01:17:52,960 --> 01:17:56,720
Speaker 12: and bonds need to be appropriate, particularly for violent offenders.

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01:17:56,439 --> 01:17:58,960
Speaker 1: No question about it. And you know, talking about your

1439
01:17:59,080 --> 01:18:04,200
Speaker 1: personal docket, frightening figure. You have thirteen murders on your

1440
01:18:04,240 --> 01:18:06,240
Speaker 1: plate right now, cases over which you are going to

1441
01:18:06,280 --> 01:18:06,839
Speaker 1: be presiding.

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01:18:07,000 --> 01:18:09,559
Speaker 12: That's right, thirteen and some of them have been lingering

1443
01:18:09,640 --> 01:18:11,080
Speaker 12: on the docket for years.

1444
01:18:11,320 --> 01:18:13,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, I asked you about that. I said, well, how

1445
01:18:13,560 --> 01:18:16,200
Speaker 1: old are they? Because thirteen murders, this couldn't have all

1446
01:18:16,240 --> 01:18:21,719
Speaker 1: been recent. But you're only one of sixteen sixteen judges.

1447
01:18:22,439 --> 01:18:24,720
Speaker 12: So you take that thirteen number in your time's at

1448
01:18:24,720 --> 01:18:28,160
Speaker 12: about sixteen and that's an approximation of how many murder

1449
01:18:28,280 --> 01:18:31,120
Speaker 12: cases are pending in Hamilton County right now.

1450
01:18:32,640 --> 01:18:36,760
Speaker 1: The backlog seems extraordinary, and the prosecutor's office has a

1451
01:18:36,840 --> 01:18:40,439
Speaker 1: tough road to hoe in proving guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.

1452
01:18:40,479 --> 01:18:42,120
Speaker 1: That takes a lot of work, and I think most

1453
01:18:42,160 --> 01:18:44,880
Speaker 1: people really don't have any idea about all the prep

1454
01:18:44,960 --> 01:18:47,479
Speaker 1: work that goes in to trying one of those cases.

1455
01:18:47,920 --> 01:18:51,839
Speaker 1: From the initial let's say homicide, the gathering of evidence

1456
01:18:51,880 --> 01:18:54,120
Speaker 1: and all the information by the police department, the interviews

1457
01:18:54,160 --> 01:18:55,719
Speaker 1: that takes a long time, that has to be handed

1458
01:18:55,720 --> 01:18:57,240
Speaker 1: over to the prosecutor's office. They have to put it

1459
01:18:57,240 --> 01:18:59,519
Speaker 1: all together in a format that's understandable. You got to

1460
01:18:59,560 --> 01:19:00,880
Speaker 1: go in front of the jury and address all the

1461
01:19:00,920 --> 01:19:04,719
Speaker 1: defense arguments. It's a tough process. And I just wonder

1462
01:19:05,479 --> 01:19:09,040
Speaker 1: because we often see, you know, plea deals reached and

1463
01:19:09,120 --> 01:19:12,800
Speaker 1: you're like, wait a second, how in the hell on

1464
01:19:12,960 --> 01:19:15,760
Speaker 1: that heinous crime did they end up with such a

1465
01:19:15,880 --> 01:19:18,439
Speaker 1: sweetheart plea deal. And I had an out loud question

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01:19:18,479 --> 01:19:22,120
Speaker 1: to ask you, which is, are prosecutors sort of maybe

1467
01:19:22,320 --> 01:19:24,880
Speaker 1: given up? It is a lot of work, and isn't

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01:19:24,880 --> 01:19:27,879
Speaker 1: it easier to just sort of all right, I'll negotiate

1469
01:19:27,920 --> 01:19:29,960
Speaker 1: a deal with the defense lawyer, and yeah, it will

1470
01:19:30,000 --> 01:19:31,680
Speaker 1: be a little bit leanient, but that's one less case

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Speaker 1: on my plate.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, And the other thing you've seen in the prosecutor's

1473
01:19:34,760 --> 01:19:38,439
Speaker 12: office is the turnover and prosecutors. This current prosecutor has

1474
01:19:38,960 --> 01:19:43,720
Speaker 12: fired a number of very senior, very complicated cases that

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01:19:43,880 --> 01:19:47,559
Speaker 12: had very good as veterans, and so then what happens

1476
01:19:47,600 --> 01:19:49,160
Speaker 12: is you've had it. They've been working on a case

1477
01:19:49,200 --> 01:19:51,599
Speaker 12: for a year and a half, two years, and now

1478
01:19:51,800 --> 01:19:54,320
Speaker 12: a whole new team comes in and they want to

1479
01:19:54,400 --> 01:19:57,160
Speaker 12: start all over. And so this is one of the

1480
01:19:57,200 --> 01:19:59,479
Speaker 12: reasons that these cases have been dragging out.

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01:20:00,360 --> 01:20:03,479
Speaker 1: Now, I guess I have to sort of raise the

1482
01:20:03,520 --> 01:20:06,840
Speaker 1: spector why were they let go? Is this a disagreement

1483
01:20:06,960 --> 01:20:10,840
Speaker 1: over perhaps prosecutorial philosophy. Are they maybe a little bit

1484
01:20:10,920 --> 01:20:12,639
Speaker 1: or were they maybe a little bit more hard line

1485
01:20:12,840 --> 01:20:17,160
Speaker 1: and interested in bringing about justice and seeing that justices served.

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01:20:17,200 --> 01:20:19,559
Speaker 1: They aren't part of the world culture because Connie Pillage

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01:20:19,560 --> 01:20:20,000
Speaker 1: seems to be.

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01:20:20,880 --> 01:20:23,559
Speaker 12: I think all of the above. Some of these people

1489
01:20:23,640 --> 01:20:25,840
Speaker 12: have been let go, and we have no idea the

1490
01:20:25,920 --> 01:20:26,880
Speaker 12: reason why they were let go.

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01:20:27,000 --> 01:20:28,960
Speaker 1: O oh, nobody knows why Police Chief Dji was let go.

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01:20:29,120 --> 01:20:30,080
Speaker 1: Either there judgement.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, it's the same thing. It's a turnovers. It's now

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Speaker 12: the Democrats are in charge and the Republican prosecutors who

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Speaker 12: are left over from the old administration who have the

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Speaker 12: experience in these cases, are being let go. Left, right,

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Speaker 12: and center and leaving us in a total lurch.

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Speaker 1: Break in my heart this morning, you're judgement's cold water?

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Speaker 1: Does reality well need to go about it? And I

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Speaker 1: going back and I E. This really irked me. You

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Speaker 1: mentioned the police officer that got injured in the brawl

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Speaker 1: that took place next to you and Judge Winkler's courtroom,

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Speaker 1: the initial topic of conversation, and that he wouldn't have

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Speaker 1: been able to testify in it try because his head

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Speaker 1: had been injured and was fairly substantial. That was a

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Speaker 1: direct consequence of the brawl. You asked the Sheriff's department, asked,

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Speaker 1: I guess the sheriff about this? Were there any injuries?

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Speaker 1: And what was Charmagne mcguffey's response to that?

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Speaker 12: The Sheriff's office issued the office day, they issued an

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Speaker 12: office statement saying no one had been injured in the brawl,

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Speaker 12: no one when they knew for a fact that that

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Speaker 12: homicide detective had been injured. And so someone that said

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Speaker 12: to me, well, they say that no one's injured. I said, no,

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Speaker 12: I know this homicide detective has been injured because this

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Speaker 12: other murder case had to be postponed.

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Speaker 1: And you say the sheriff's department was aware of the injury.

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01:21:55,760 --> 01:21:57,360
Speaker 12: Absolutely, they were aware of the injury.

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Speaker 1: So the statement from the Sheriff's office, you know, let

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01:21:59,680 --> 01:22:01,720
Speaker 1: me just boil it down. My perception of that is

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Speaker 1: it was a lie, completely contrary to the known facts.

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Speaker 1: An officer was in fact injured and they said no

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Speaker 1: one was injured. All right, I appreciate that we can

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Speaker 1: take comfort in the Sheriff's department and providing us with

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Speaker 1: well accurate information. Judge Chris McDowell, it has been a

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Speaker 1: consequences and we don't want woke judges and we certainly

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Speaker 1: don't want woke prosecutors. We'll have another chance to deal

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Speaker 1: of fifty five cars dot Com without further ado. And

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01:23:29,840 --> 01:23:31,760
Speaker 1: it's always great to see Matt DeMars and the man

1552
01:23:31,880 --> 01:23:35,240
Speaker 1: behind Vets and Bruce Matt. Good to see you man.

1553
01:23:35,280 --> 01:23:37,840
Speaker 1: It's that time of year already. It is again time

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01:23:37,920 --> 01:23:40,320
Speaker 1: to raffle off some bourbon and help the local veterans. Okay,

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01:23:40,479 --> 01:23:42,479
Speaker 1: we start with the concept of Vetsen Bruce before we

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01:23:42,560 --> 01:23:45,759
Speaker 1: get to the bourbon list, and one of my favorites

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01:23:45,760 --> 01:23:49,040
Speaker 1: happens to be on it. But you wanted to help

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01:23:49,080 --> 01:23:50,720
Speaker 1: out the American veteran and you wanted to do it

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01:23:50,760 --> 01:23:52,760
Speaker 1: in a fun way, and that's how vetsen Bruce got started.

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01:23:52,880 --> 01:23:53,640
Speaker 1: How long you been doing this?

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Speaker 3: Since twenty nineteen? That's when I started, late twenty nineteen.

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01:23:57,080 --> 01:23:57,719
Speaker 3: Isn't that crazy?

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01:23:58,720 --> 01:24:03,960
Speaker 1: Howe one of those another life milestones, just like when

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01:24:03,960 --> 01:24:05,840
Speaker 1: you go on Facebook. Oh you know this album that

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01:24:05,880 --> 01:24:08,320
Speaker 1: you listen to in high schools now forty five years old, Like,

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01:24:08,400 --> 01:24:11,519
Speaker 1: oh my god, we've been talking since twenty nineteen. Yeah, well,

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01:24:11,600 --> 01:24:14,960
Speaker 1: good for you. And you solicit money from people who

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01:24:15,000 --> 01:24:17,680
Speaker 1: want to buy veterans a beer. It's a ten dollars donation, right,

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01:24:18,000 --> 01:24:20,240
Speaker 1: that's it. Seven bucks covers the beer, yep, for the

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Speaker 1: most part, and the balance goes to Patriots Landing. Now

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01:24:24,280 --> 01:24:26,559
Speaker 1: I've had Patriots Landing on a whole bunch of times.

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Speaker 1: And what a heartwarming organization that one is. At Northern Kentucky.

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01:24:29,760 --> 01:24:31,519
Speaker 1: It's a wood shop. I guess for lack of a

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01:24:31,600 --> 01:24:36,000
Speaker 1: better explanation, and they make these wonderful The veterans make

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01:24:36,080 --> 01:24:40,000
Speaker 1: these wonderful items. It's woodworking items, like there's a cross

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01:24:40,200 --> 01:24:44,040
Speaker 1: and there's the the nine, which is a flag made

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01:24:44,080 --> 01:24:47,800
Speaker 1: of wood with the stars represented by nine millimeter spent

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01:24:47,960 --> 01:24:49,639
Speaker 1: case things. I thought that was cool, but a whole

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01:24:49,640 --> 01:24:51,120
Speaker 1: bunch of different ones. And I recommend you check out

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01:24:51,160 --> 01:24:54,519
Speaker 1: Patriots Landing to get involved. And if you're a veteran

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01:24:54,560 --> 01:24:56,439
Speaker 1: out there, it is a great place for you to

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01:24:56,520 --> 01:24:59,280
Speaker 1: hang out with fellow veterans and commiserate and share stories

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01:24:59,360 --> 01:25:01,800
Speaker 1: and support each other. So good work going on there,

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01:25:01,840 --> 01:25:03,960
Speaker 1: and I'm glad that that organization gets the balance. So

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01:25:04,080 --> 01:25:08,160
Speaker 1: beers four veterans, Patriots Landing four veterans as well. And

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01:25:08,920 --> 01:25:12,839
Speaker 1: you have donation boxes that are the original Patriots Landing concept,

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01:25:12,880 --> 01:25:14,080
Speaker 1: which is the flagcases.

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Speaker 5: Yep.

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Speaker 1: And they make those because they found out at Arlington

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Speaker 1: National that there was no US manufacturer of flagcases if

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Speaker 1: I recall correctly, right.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they were a local veterans cemetery or something, and

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01:25:25,600 --> 01:25:27,920
Speaker 3: notice that that's what it was. Now they supply Arlington

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01:25:28,080 --> 01:25:30,759
Speaker 3: Arlington's Yeah, they're the sole supplier. So it's pretty amazing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I know your veterans. I don't mean to fake

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01:25:33,080 --> 01:25:35,759
Speaker 1: some Patriots Landing all but anything you buy from Patriots

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01:25:35,840 --> 01:25:37,560
Speaker 1: Landing it's going to be signed by the veteran that

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01:25:38,200 --> 01:25:40,519
Speaker 1: made the item. So if you need a flagcase, there

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Speaker 1: the place to go. And I think it's just awesome

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Speaker 1: that Arlington has selected My.

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Speaker 3: Dad's is in their flagcase. It's and I've given a

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Speaker 3: bunch of them away to friends.

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Speaker 13: You know what I mean. Yeah, I checked the back

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Speaker 13: every time.

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Speaker 12: I bet you do.

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01:25:53,000 --> 01:25:56,200
Speaker 1: I bet you did. But what maybe stumble upon the

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01:25:56,200 --> 01:25:58,040
Speaker 1: flagcase is not just because I wanted to give them

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01:25:58,080 --> 01:26:01,599
Speaker 1: props for doing that, but you convert the flagcases into

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01:26:01,680 --> 01:26:04,759
Speaker 1: the donation boxes, which people can find at local bars.

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01:26:06,200 --> 01:26:08,599
Speaker 1: How many bars are out there holding a donation box?

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Speaker 13: There's seven.

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01:26:09,320 --> 01:26:13,360
Speaker 3: Now, you know, things have slowed down and some breweries

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01:26:13,400 --> 01:26:15,519
Speaker 3: have clothes, so we'll start putting them in other ones.

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01:26:15,560 --> 01:26:17,080
Speaker 3: But you know a lot of people don't carry cash

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01:26:17,120 --> 01:26:19,559
Speaker 3: anymore either, so it's it's getting a lot. We put

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01:26:19,640 --> 01:26:22,240
Speaker 3: QR codes next to them and everything too. But they

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01:26:22,320 --> 01:26:23,559
Speaker 3: look great when they're sitting there.

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Speaker 1: They really do.

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Speaker 13: It draws your attention to it right now, you can't

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01:26:26,720 --> 01:26:27,120
Speaker 13: miss it, you.

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01:26:27,160 --> 01:26:30,400
Speaker 1: See, and they're prominently placed or at least you know, yeah,

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01:26:30,720 --> 01:26:33,760
Speaker 1: tactically replaced a place so they you get the most donations.

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01:26:33,800 --> 01:26:35,320
Speaker 1: But you throw ten bucks at a box if you

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01:26:35,360 --> 01:26:36,800
Speaker 1: see one, you're gonna buy a vet of beer.

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Speaker 14: Uh.

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01:26:37,680 --> 01:26:41,400
Speaker 1: And you can go online too. It's Vets and brus

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01:26:41,720 --> 01:26:45,599
Speaker 1: dot com to make a donation. But also which we're

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01:26:45,640 --> 01:26:47,200
Speaker 1: gonna get to when we come back from brief rank

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01:26:47,360 --> 01:26:50,439
Speaker 1: buy bourbon tickets. It's time for the Vets and Bruce

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01:26:50,479 --> 01:26:53,040
Speaker 1: Bourbon Raffle. And you know, right out of the gate,

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01:26:53,240 --> 01:26:56,599
Speaker 1: I just did the the the the Cure Starts Now

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01:26:56,760 --> 01:26:59,320
Speaker 1: cancer event and they had a bourbon raffle and and

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01:26:59,479 --> 01:27:02,479
Speaker 1: props of the party source for donating those barrels or

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01:27:02,520 --> 01:27:05,479
Speaker 1: those bottles. That was not the case with the bottles

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01:27:05,520 --> 01:27:07,800
Speaker 1: that were donated for the bourbon raffle here for the

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01:27:07,880 --> 01:27:10,400
Speaker 1: Vets and Bruce organization. So we'll get to how these

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01:27:10,479 --> 01:27:13,920
Speaker 1: bottles came into Matt's possession, the type of bourbinger. U

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01:27:14,120 --> 01:27:21,000
Speaker 1: up the talk station fifty five Kersite talk station fifty

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01:27:21,040 --> 01:27:24,120
Speaker 1: five krsee loves the American veteran I personally give I

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01:27:24,280 --> 01:27:26,360
Speaker 1: just think the world of the American veterans doing a

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01:27:26,479 --> 01:27:29,080
Speaker 1: job that very few people would be willing to do.

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01:27:29,200 --> 01:27:31,280
Speaker 1: Sign it up on the bottom line and never knowing

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01:27:31,360 --> 01:27:34,200
Speaker 1: what that might do to you where you might end up.

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01:27:34,320 --> 01:27:36,960
Speaker 1: And man, I'm telling you, especially in these trying times,

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01:27:37,000 --> 01:27:38,960
Speaker 1: we find ourselves with someone who gets that and trying

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01:27:39,000 --> 01:27:40,479
Speaker 1: to give back to the American veteran and has been

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01:27:40,520 --> 01:27:44,040
Speaker 1: doing this since twenty nineteen. Matt Demarus from Vets and Bruce.

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01:27:44,080 --> 01:27:46,120
Speaker 1: We talked about the concept in the last segment. And

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01:27:46,160 --> 01:27:48,400
Speaker 1: you go to Vets and Bruise dot com. Get the

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01:27:48,479 --> 01:27:52,080
Speaker 1: link because you're gonna want to buy a bourbon ticket. Yay,

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01:27:54,240 --> 01:27:55,160
Speaker 1: thirty dollars a pop.

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01:27:55,400 --> 01:27:58,120
Speaker 13: That's it, man, I mean, and we've got over five

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01:27:58,160 --> 01:27:59,120
Speaker 13: thousand dollars worth of.

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01:27:59,320 --> 01:28:03,439
Speaker 1: Birth Oh yeah, huge, And there's some really sweet sweet

1655
01:28:03,560 --> 01:28:05,800
Speaker 1: bourbons on here. You can start with the old the

1656
01:28:05,880 --> 01:28:08,120
Speaker 1: old Rip Van Winkle. I know people have that high

1657
01:28:08,160 --> 01:28:09,680
Speaker 1: on their their their wantless and.

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01:28:09,720 --> 01:28:12,280
Speaker 13: The Pappies anytime you have a Pappy's and that's the

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01:28:12,360 --> 01:28:12,920
Speaker 13: big one.

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01:28:13,600 --> 01:28:16,160
Speaker 1: But you have a lot of others. I gravitated towards

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01:28:16,200 --> 01:28:18,679
Speaker 1: and it's in less expensive bottle. What about sixty bucks

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01:28:18,720 --> 01:28:21,200
Speaker 1: angels Envy. I think that is an outstanding bourbon. It

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01:28:21,280 --> 01:28:24,479
Speaker 1: is so dang smooth. Yeah, And I only recently stumbled

1664
01:28:24,560 --> 01:28:29,599
Speaker 1: upon why it's called angels envy. It's when the bourbon

1665
01:28:29,720 --> 01:28:34,439
Speaker 1: is being aged in the barrel, magically, a portion of

1666
01:28:34,479 --> 01:28:37,679
Speaker 1: it disappears, so you have a one hundred percent volume,

1667
01:28:37,720 --> 01:28:39,760
Speaker 1: and by the time it's the three or five years

1668
01:28:39,880 --> 01:28:42,960
Speaker 1: is over aging, there's something less than that. It has

1669
01:28:43,040 --> 01:28:46,280
Speaker 1: either evaporated, it's entered the atmosphere. They call that the

1670
01:28:46,439 --> 01:28:51,640
Speaker 1: angels share. So what's left in the barrel is what

1671
01:28:51,840 --> 01:28:56,799
Speaker 1: the angels envy, right, yeah, okay, like oh brilliant Thomas Thomas.

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01:28:56,880 --> 01:28:59,920
Speaker 1: So I went into a bourbon tour over at Castle

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01:29:00,080 --> 01:29:05,160
Speaker 1: Key bourbon distributor or bourbon plant down in Kentucky and

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01:29:05,800 --> 01:29:07,720
Speaker 1: I figured it out there. So that's where I found

1675
01:29:07,760 --> 01:29:11,120
Speaker 1: out about the angels share. But how many total bottles

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01:29:11,200 --> 01:29:11,760
Speaker 1: of bourbon here?

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01:29:12,080 --> 01:29:14,840
Speaker 3: We got thirty eight totals, so there'll be fifteen for

1678
01:29:14,920 --> 01:29:17,000
Speaker 3: the online raffle. If you buy your tickets online for

1679
01:29:17,080 --> 01:29:20,080
Speaker 3: thirty bucks apiece, there's gonna be five hundred tickets. Once

1680
01:29:20,160 --> 01:29:22,280
Speaker 3: those are sold out, we're done. And then at the

1681
01:29:22,439 --> 01:29:25,759
Speaker 3: in person bourbon raffle, that's where we're gonna draw the winners.

1682
01:29:26,040 --> 01:29:28,760
Speaker 3: But we'll have twenty three additional bottles there and that's

1683
01:29:28,800 --> 01:29:31,120
Speaker 3: from you. Just show up and you get a ticket.

1684
01:29:31,240 --> 01:29:33,400
Speaker 3: You can win tickets and you put them in whichever

1685
01:29:33,520 --> 01:29:36,240
Speaker 3: basket you want for which bottle and where and when?

1686
01:29:36,400 --> 01:29:39,040
Speaker 3: Is that that's gonna be a fretboard and blue ash

1687
01:29:39,120 --> 01:29:40,400
Speaker 3: on Creek job.

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01:29:40,680 --> 01:29:42,360
Speaker 13: Oh, I love that place. Yeah, that's a good spot.

1689
01:29:42,680 --> 01:29:45,280
Speaker 13: It's like my home base for drinking.

1690
01:29:45,560 --> 01:29:48,400
Speaker 1: Your wife is looking for you, she calls going to

1691
01:29:48,479 --> 01:29:50,439
Speaker 1: fred Wor I'm out here.

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01:29:50,600 --> 01:29:53,960
Speaker 3: It's on the twenty eighth from one to four pm

1693
01:29:54,000 --> 01:29:56,519
Speaker 3: and we're going to be raffling off three or four

1694
01:29:56,560 --> 01:29:59,720
Speaker 3: bottles every fifteen minutes. So get there early and get

1695
01:29:59,760 --> 01:30:02,439
Speaker 3: your tickets in the baskets and win you some bourbon.

1696
01:30:02,880 --> 01:30:06,519
Speaker 3: Yeah again, some primo bourbons here. And is the the

1697
01:30:07,120 --> 01:30:12,599
Speaker 3: proceeds from this raffle go to concert for a Cause? Yep,

1698
01:30:12,920 --> 01:30:15,600
Speaker 3: Well let's talk about concert for a cause? Is this

1699
01:30:15,720 --> 01:30:18,200
Speaker 3: something that you the Vets and Bruce organizations select to

1700
01:30:18,560 --> 01:30:20,840
Speaker 3: receive the proceeds. I've been teamed up with them for

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01:30:21,080 --> 01:30:23,719
Speaker 3: this is my fourth year doing the The bourbon raffle

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01:30:23,840 --> 01:30:26,360
Speaker 3: is for concert for a Cause, So they throw this

1703
01:30:26,439 --> 01:30:30,160
Speaker 3: big concert to raise money for a different nonprofit every year.

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Speaker 3: This year is for Britain's Battalion. Last year the concert

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01:30:34,080 --> 01:30:36,360
Speaker 3: for a Cause was at Fretboard. This year they were

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01:30:36,400 --> 01:30:39,559
Speaker 3: closing down a whole street in Hamilton on April eighteenth.

1707
01:30:39,760 --> 01:30:42,479
Speaker 3: And what I do with the bourbon raffle money is

1708
01:30:43,080 --> 01:30:45,519
Speaker 3: I get a VIP table for veterans that I take

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01:30:45,920 --> 01:30:48,560
Speaker 3: to the concert for a Cause. This year we have

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01:30:48,640 --> 01:30:51,439
Speaker 3: a whole veteran VIP lounge and one of the bars

1711
01:30:51,520 --> 01:30:54,400
Speaker 3: right one of the bars right on the main strip there. So, yeah,

1712
01:30:54,439 --> 01:30:58,040
Speaker 3: that we raised money for this nonprofit. Britain's Battalion is.

1713
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Speaker 1: Your cancer.

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01:31:00,720 --> 01:31:00,920
Speaker 5: Yeah.

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01:31:01,080 --> 01:31:02,919
Speaker 13: So it's organization.

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01:31:03,120 --> 01:31:05,439
Speaker 3: You know, they help out families that are going through

1717
01:31:05,479 --> 01:31:09,360
Speaker 3: it with bills or medical bills, paying for the mortgage, anything,

1718
01:31:09,520 --> 01:31:11,640
Speaker 3: groceries stuff like that. So and they help them with

1719
01:31:12,439 --> 01:31:16,360
Speaker 3: treatment care like the different doctors and stuff hooking them up.

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01:31:16,560 --> 01:31:18,879
Speaker 13: Yeah, and it's a great place. It's a great organization.

1721
01:31:19,040 --> 01:31:21,479
Speaker 1: I'm so happy that you're teamed up with the cancer

1722
01:31:21,840 --> 01:31:24,960
Speaker 1: related organization and charity. So I the cure starts now,

1723
01:31:25,080 --> 01:31:27,680
Speaker 1: is started with pediatric brain cancer is the focus and

1724
01:31:27,800 --> 01:31:30,720
Speaker 1: looking for that home run cure, you know, cure for

1725
01:31:30,840 --> 01:31:33,320
Speaker 1: all cancers. Based upon the research that they've gotten so far.

1726
01:31:33,560 --> 01:31:36,439
Speaker 1: So got a soft spot in my heart for sure.

1727
01:31:36,760 --> 01:31:40,120
Speaker 1: I mean children with cancer, right, Is there any more

1728
01:31:40,200 --> 01:31:41,080
Speaker 1: heartbreaking than that?

1729
01:31:41,360 --> 01:31:41,400
Speaker 11: No?

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01:31:42,439 --> 01:31:44,519
Speaker 1: Jeez, And we can all, at least we can agree

1731
01:31:44,560 --> 01:31:48,000
Speaker 1: that cancer sucks. All right, Bets and Bruce, get your

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01:31:48,000 --> 01:31:49,559
Speaker 1: bourbon tickets and let's see if we can't get them

1733
01:31:49,600 --> 01:31:51,840
Speaker 1: to sell out. You got a friend in your world

1734
01:31:51,920 --> 01:31:53,880
Speaker 1: that isn't listening to the fifty five Carecening morning show,

1735
01:31:53,880 --> 01:31:55,280
Speaker 1: at least steer them in the direction of vets in

1736
01:31:55,320 --> 01:31:57,080
Speaker 1: Bruce dot com and have them buy a ticket. There

1737
01:31:57,120 --> 01:31:58,760
Speaker 1: are only a total of five hundred. I think as

1738
01:31:58,800 --> 01:32:00,000
Speaker 1: of this morning, maybe three hundred.

1739
01:32:00,400 --> 01:32:02,519
Speaker 3: There was three ninety left, so we've sold one hundred

1740
01:32:02,520 --> 01:32:03,880
Speaker 3: and ten. It's been out for about a week so

1741
01:32:04,560 --> 01:32:06,400
Speaker 3: and I think we'll close it down around the twenty

1742
01:32:06,439 --> 01:32:08,080
Speaker 3: second or so if we haven't sold them all.

1743
01:32:08,120 --> 01:32:09,760
Speaker 13: But the goal is to sell them out. Let's I

1744
01:32:09,800 --> 01:32:11,080
Speaker 13: mean to raise as much money as.

1745
01:32:11,000 --> 01:32:14,680
Speaker 1: Possible and obviously going for great causes. So Vets and

1746
01:32:14,760 --> 01:32:17,439
Speaker 1: Brew donate at your local brewery when you see the

1747
01:32:17,880 --> 01:32:21,400
Speaker 1: donation box, which is the flag box. Donate online to

1748
01:32:21,479 --> 01:32:24,240
Speaker 1: Vets and Bruce buy a beer that way, if you

1749
01:32:24,360 --> 01:32:26,120
Speaker 1: run into Matt, hand him ten bucks, you'll make sure

1750
01:32:26,160 --> 01:32:28,439
Speaker 1: that money goes to get to a hell. And I

1751
01:32:28,520 --> 01:32:29,959
Speaker 1: got to ask this question because.

1752
01:32:29,720 --> 01:32:31,160
Speaker 13: They're run into me. Let me buy you a beer.

1753
01:32:31,280 --> 01:32:32,360
Speaker 5: Yeah, if you're a.

1754
01:32:32,439 --> 01:32:34,519
Speaker 1: Veteran, he trust me, he's got the money to buy

1755
01:32:34,560 --> 01:32:36,360
Speaker 1: you a beer. Run into him. So yes, hit hi,

1756
01:32:36,400 --> 01:32:38,040
Speaker 1: muffer one. That was the other thing. You don't need

1757
01:32:38,080 --> 01:32:40,240
Speaker 1: to run into you to get the beer. How does

1758
01:32:40,280 --> 01:32:41,639
Speaker 1: a veteran get a beer?

1759
01:32:41,960 --> 01:32:44,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, if you see, if it's one of our Vets

1760
01:32:44,280 --> 01:32:48,240
Speaker 3: and Bruce partners, you just tell him, ask him, say hey,

1761
01:32:48,720 --> 01:32:51,599
Speaker 3: we prepay, pre pay for him with those box donations.

1762
01:32:51,640 --> 01:32:53,639
Speaker 3: So if you see a box and a brewery, say hey,

1763
01:32:53,680 --> 01:32:55,479
Speaker 3: I'm a veteran, and they'll buy you a beer. Or

1764
01:32:55,920 --> 01:32:58,559
Speaker 3: if you're having an organ like a veteran meet up

1765
01:32:58,640 --> 01:33:00,880
Speaker 3: or something like that, just call me and I'll show

1766
01:33:00,960 --> 01:33:02,519
Speaker 3: up and buy around for everybody off.

1767
01:33:02,680 --> 01:33:04,320
Speaker 13: That's how it works, and do it.

1768
01:33:04,640 --> 01:33:06,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I know a lot of veterans probably think,

1769
01:33:06,400 --> 01:33:08,320
Speaker 1: you know, I'd never I don't need a free beer.

1770
01:33:08,479 --> 01:33:10,320
Speaker 1: I got can sink and swim on my own, and

1771
01:33:10,360 --> 01:33:14,479
Speaker 1: I understand that philosophy. But you want them to enjoy

1772
01:33:14,520 --> 01:33:15,720
Speaker 1: a beer you want them to.

1773
01:33:16,280 --> 01:33:18,679
Speaker 3: If they don't accept it, I can't give the remaining

1774
01:33:18,760 --> 01:33:21,400
Speaker 3: balance to Patriots Landing. Okay, yeah, So the quicker you

1775
01:33:21,520 --> 01:33:24,200
Speaker 3: drink them, the more money I can give to Patriots Landing.

1776
01:33:26,240 --> 01:33:26,400
Speaker 5: Right.

1777
01:33:26,840 --> 01:33:31,080
Speaker 1: That put them over the edge, right there, dot com

1778
01:33:31,200 --> 01:33:34,559
Speaker 1: matth Deamris. And we're gonna do it again next year

1779
01:33:34,560 --> 01:33:37,320
Speaker 1: because you're not going away, and I'm looking forward to that,

1780
01:33:37,400 --> 01:33:39,600
Speaker 1: and I'm looking forward to to the honor bus. I

1781
01:33:39,720 --> 01:33:41,760
Speaker 1: forgot to mention the honor bus because I've been on

1782
01:33:41,880 --> 01:33:43,479
Speaker 1: that before and that is a hood of a time.

1783
01:33:43,520 --> 01:33:44,639
Speaker 1: When is that one taking place?

1784
01:33:44,920 --> 01:33:47,200
Speaker 13: It's always the Saturday before Veterans Day.

1785
01:33:47,400 --> 01:33:49,639
Speaker 3: And this year, for the very first time, we're going

1786
01:33:49,880 --> 01:33:51,840
Speaker 3: to two cities, so we'll have our two buses in

1787
01:33:51,880 --> 01:33:54,360
Speaker 3: Cincinnati and then we'll have a bus in Columbus.

1788
01:33:54,400 --> 01:33:55,920
Speaker 1: This year, well, you know, I have your place here

1789
01:33:55,960 --> 01:33:57,640
Speaker 1: in the fifty five carce Morning. Should have spread the

1790
01:33:57,640 --> 01:33:59,400
Speaker 1: word on that as we get closer to the counter

1791
01:33:59,479 --> 01:34:02,439
Speaker 1: bus event. So I appreciate it so much for me man,

1792
01:34:02,479 --> 01:34:04,840
Speaker 1: maybe I'll make it again this year. Such a good time.

1793
01:34:04,920 --> 01:34:06,680
Speaker 1: Matt da Maris. God bless you, sir and everything you

1794
01:34:06,760 --> 01:34:09,320
Speaker 1: do for the American veteran and to all my listening

1795
01:34:09,400 --> 01:34:11,960
Speaker 1: line and to also share my love for the American veteran.

1796
01:34:12,000 --> 01:34:14,360
Speaker 1: And we'll buy a bourbon ticket. Let's get him sold out.

1797
01:34:14,400 --> 01:34:16,479
Speaker 1: Seven forty six right now, fifty five KRC City Talk Station,

1798
01:34:16,880 --> 01:34:19,080
Speaker 1: and you can get in touch with Peter Shepier Color

1799
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Speaker 1: Williams seven Hills, the best real estate team out there.

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Speaker 1: Seven one at fifty five KRC the Talk station. All Ry,

1801
01:34:26,439 --> 01:34:28,360
Speaker 1: Happy Friday, Eve to you. Looking forward after the top

1802
01:34:28,400 --> 01:34:30,639
Speaker 1: of the Our News, Charlie Howard hopefully in the studio

1803
01:34:30,720 --> 01:34:34,719
Speaker 1: says he's going to be Cincinnati Auto Expo this weekend.

1804
01:34:34,880 --> 01:34:37,360
Speaker 1: Love cars, I love being around cars, and I love

1805
01:34:37,400 --> 01:34:39,360
Speaker 1: a place where all the cars are right there at

1806
01:34:39,400 --> 01:34:41,960
Speaker 1: the exact same time. You don't have to go, I

1807
01:34:42,000 --> 01:34:45,000
Speaker 1: guess to drive around the Auto ball or something. Anyway,

1808
01:34:45,120 --> 01:34:46,720
Speaker 1: Charlie Howard, the heats on that coming up after the

1809
01:34:46,720 --> 01:34:48,800
Speaker 1: top of the Our News, followed by Bob Jewele again

1810
01:34:48,920 --> 01:34:52,320
Speaker 1: the new Concealed Carry Law Empower You seminar that's tonight

1811
01:34:53,040 --> 01:34:55,679
Speaker 1: along with Janie Heisel, who will be talking about Frauda

1812
01:34:55,720 --> 01:34:58,439
Speaker 1: Minnesota had her on the program yesterday, So podcasts that

1813
01:34:58,680 --> 01:35:01,800
Speaker 1: interview to get a little insight about what's going on tonight,

1814
01:35:01,960 --> 01:35:04,280
Speaker 1: or just tune in tonight or log in tonight at

1815
01:35:04,320 --> 01:35:07,320
Speaker 1: seven o'clock empower Youamerica dot org or show up in

1816
01:35:07,320 --> 01:35:09,559
Speaker 1: the empower You studios. All that information, thanks to Joe

1817
01:35:09,600 --> 01:35:12,080
Speaker 1: Strecker is on my blog page fifty five KRC dot com.

1818
01:35:12,400 --> 01:35:14,679
Speaker 1: I'm interested in having Bob in the program. I myself

1819
01:35:14,720 --> 01:35:18,280
Speaker 1: am curious about the concealed carry lows. I art Mediaba's

1820
01:35:18,360 --> 01:35:19,960
Speaker 1: next pert, Jay Ratliff, coming to the next now and

1821
01:35:20,000 --> 01:35:24,360
Speaker 1: of course tomorrow being Friday, Tech Friday. And yes, you

1822
01:35:24,439 --> 01:35:29,599
Speaker 1: have another data breach, this one rather sizeable. They say

1823
01:35:29,760 --> 01:35:34,880
Speaker 1: roughly one billion with a B one thousand million if

1824
01:35:34,880 --> 01:35:37,320
Speaker 1: you want to state it that way. Sensitive records across

1825
01:35:37,439 --> 01:35:41,200
Speaker 1: twenty six countries were hacked in a massive data leak.

1826
01:35:43,800 --> 01:35:48,120
Speaker 1: Researchers say an unprotected database tied to something called id

1827
01:35:48,680 --> 01:35:53,080
Speaker 1: Merit described as a company that helps businesses confirm identities,

1828
01:35:54,240 --> 01:35:56,599
Speaker 1: and they say this exposed about one billion sensitive records,

1829
01:35:56,600 --> 01:35:59,400
Speaker 1: again twenty six countries and America. Here in the US

1830
01:35:59,800 --> 01:36:05,120
Speaker 1: more than two hundred and three million records unsecured. According

1831
01:36:05,120 --> 01:36:08,040
Speaker 1: to Fox News Reporting Research is cyber News. Cybersecurity News

1832
01:36:08,080 --> 01:36:13,280
Speaker 1: research publication discovered and exposed Mango dB database. I have

1833
01:36:13,439 --> 01:36:16,920
Speaker 1: no idea in November last year, they believed belongs to

1834
01:36:17,040 --> 01:36:22,679
Speaker 1: id Merit, a global identity verification provider that serves banks,

1835
01:36:23,479 --> 01:36:28,160
Speaker 1: fintech firms, other financial service companies. These artificial intelligence tools

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01:36:28,200 --> 01:36:33,000
Speaker 1: to gather to help businesses perform these know your Customer research,

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01:36:33,960 --> 01:36:36,880
Speaker 1: which is the identity verification process required when you open

1838
01:36:36,960 --> 01:36:39,400
Speaker 1: financial accounts. So you can only imagine if they're the

1839
01:36:39,439 --> 01:36:42,519
Speaker 1: ones who are identifying identities, how much information they might

1840
01:36:42,640 --> 01:36:48,040
Speaker 1: have anywhere. Anyone who knew where to look for this,

1841
01:36:48,479 --> 01:36:52,400
Speaker 1: according to the reporting on this hack, could access it

1842
01:36:53,160 --> 01:36:57,360
Speaker 1: where they found full names, home addresses, postal codes, dates

1843
01:36:57,360 --> 01:37:00,840
Speaker 1: of birth, national ID numbers like social Security numbers, phone numbers,

1844
01:37:00,880 --> 01:37:05,280
Speaker 1: email addresses, gender information. Some records also included telecom related

1845
01:37:05,360 --> 01:37:10,439
Speaker 1: metadata and internal flags that may have referenced past breaches.

1846
01:37:12,040 --> 01:37:16,479
Speaker 1: So since they're out there collecting it, as we learned

1847
01:37:16,479 --> 01:37:19,320
Speaker 1: from day've Hatter every Friday, it's nothing but a bunch

1848
01:37:19,400 --> 01:37:23,040
Speaker 1: of hoovers out there sucking up literally every ounce of

1849
01:37:23,160 --> 01:37:25,920
Speaker 1: information they can figure out about you, your buying habits,

1850
01:37:26,320 --> 01:37:28,560
Speaker 1: and if you've got a room of vacuum, apparently the

1851
01:37:28,640 --> 01:37:32,680
Speaker 1: inside of your house all of its subject to being

1852
01:37:32,760 --> 01:37:37,000
Speaker 1: hacked and pivot over to England or Britain rather well,

1853
01:37:37,040 --> 01:37:40,120
Speaker 1: particularly the European Union generally speaking, gonna be a tough

1854
01:37:40,240 --> 01:37:42,599
Speaker 1: road to hole. But coming down the pike here artificial

1855
01:37:42,640 --> 01:37:46,280
Speaker 1: intelligence systems that are capable of generating sexualized deep fakes

1856
01:37:46,439 --> 01:37:48,600
Speaker 1: real people. You know, when you have a picture of

1857
01:37:48,640 --> 01:37:51,200
Speaker 1: a girl in a bikini and you wanted to look naked,

1858
01:37:51,320 --> 01:37:53,400
Speaker 1: feed it to AI and have it spit out a

1859
01:37:53,520 --> 01:37:56,639
Speaker 1: naked photograph that looks dead on accurate. That kind of stuff,

1860
01:37:56,680 --> 01:37:59,840
Speaker 1: and it happens every day. They're talking about banning that.

1861
01:38:02,680 --> 01:38:05,160
Speaker 1: Proposals said to be approved by the European Union ambassadors

1862
01:38:05,200 --> 01:38:08,639
Speaker 1: would make it illegal to market in Europe any artificial

1863
01:38:08,680 --> 01:38:11,880
Speaker 1: intelligence system that can generate these non consensual sexualized videos,

1864
01:38:11,880 --> 01:38:15,680
Speaker 1: images or audio files involving real people. They say that

1865
01:38:15,720 --> 01:38:17,720
Speaker 1: plan will kick in as early as this summer after

1866
01:38:17,800 --> 01:38:21,160
Speaker 1: negotiations between EU countries and the Parliament, raising questions about

1867
01:38:21,160 --> 01:38:23,960
Speaker 1: the future of a whole bunch of apps that users

1868
01:38:24,960 --> 01:38:27,840
Speaker 1: create fake and new images of people on so a

1869
01:38:27,920 --> 01:38:30,120
Speaker 1: multitude of those exist out there in the world. Okay,

1870
01:38:30,280 --> 01:38:34,720
Speaker 1: question why that might be, and consider if you're a

1871
01:38:34,760 --> 01:38:38,040
Speaker 1: software company, haven do cater to the European Union rules

1872
01:38:38,080 --> 01:38:40,280
Speaker 1: on these matters while also serving the rest of the

1873
01:38:40,320 --> 01:38:43,559
Speaker 1: world that doesn't have these type of rules. You can't

1874
01:38:43,640 --> 01:38:47,599
Speaker 1: isolate yourself in a corner of the world anymore. Get

1875
01:38:47,640 --> 01:38:50,200
Speaker 1: a VPN and figure out how easy it is to

1876
01:38:50,360 --> 01:38:53,479
Speaker 1: pretend you're somewhere that you aren't. Seven fifty five fifty

1877
01:38:53,520 --> 01:38:56,960
Speaker 1: five kr CD Talk station. Let's talk Auto Expo after

1878
01:38:57,000 --> 01:38:59,360
Speaker 1: the top of the UR News plus upcoming Jay Ratliff

1879
01:38:59,400 --> 01:39:01,840
Speaker 1: as well and gun Laws. That's in the eight o'clock hour.

1880
01:39:01,880 --> 01:39:04,920
Speaker 1: I hope you can stick around. We put the app

1881
01:39:05,360 --> 01:39:09,320
Speaker 1: in eight oh five and you have KERCD talk station. Yes,

1882
01:39:09,400 --> 01:39:10,920
Speaker 1: I am laughing as I come out of the break.

1883
01:39:12,640 --> 01:39:14,800
Speaker 1: This is going to be fun. Charlie Howard and Mike Small.

1884
01:39:15,240 --> 01:39:18,000
Speaker 1: Charlie's with the Greater since any Automobile Dealers Association in

1885
01:39:18,120 --> 01:39:22,120
Speaker 1: Mike also with them and the Cincinnati Auto Expo communications director.

1886
01:39:22,160 --> 01:39:25,040
Speaker 1: They're in to talk about, Yes, the Cincinnati Auto Expo

1887
01:39:25,200 --> 01:39:27,479
Speaker 1: coming to town March twenty sixth through twenty ninth. All

1888
01:39:27,479 --> 01:39:29,800
Speaker 1: the details coming up on the where you get your

1889
01:39:29,800 --> 01:39:32,519
Speaker 1: tickets and all that. But Fellas, it's great to Charlie

1890
01:39:32,520 --> 01:39:33,960
Speaker 1: and Mike. It's great to have you here. We've been

1891
01:39:34,000 --> 01:39:36,040
Speaker 1: talking cars now for the last almost ten minutes.

1892
01:39:36,160 --> 01:39:36,680
Speaker 5: We have them.

1893
01:39:36,760 --> 01:39:39,240
Speaker 1: Yes, And that's one thing I do dearly love is cars.

1894
01:39:39,320 --> 01:39:42,719
Speaker 1: And this is unlike the cavalcade custom which is custom cars.

1895
01:39:43,120 --> 01:39:45,439
Speaker 1: These are real cars that you can go out to

1896
01:39:45,560 --> 01:39:48,960
Speaker 1: your dealer and buy. But they're all one place at

1897
01:39:49,000 --> 01:39:49,800
Speaker 1: the exact same time.

1898
01:39:50,040 --> 01:39:50,920
Speaker 13: That's exactly right.

1899
01:39:51,040 --> 01:39:53,880
Speaker 15: Get the opportunity to bring in your list, maybe create

1900
01:39:53,920 --> 01:39:56,760
Speaker 15: a new list, kick some tires, climb in the back seat,

1901
01:39:56,800 --> 01:39:57,560
Speaker 15: see what you might like.

1902
01:39:58,000 --> 01:40:02,160
Speaker 1: So I am curiou you know how many models or

1903
01:40:02,240 --> 01:40:03,960
Speaker 1: brands are going to be there if you just like

1904
01:40:04,040 --> 01:40:07,120
Speaker 1: a manufacturer's forward and you know Chevy and I mean,

1905
01:40:07,560 --> 01:40:09,400
Speaker 1: are they all going to be there represented? I mean

1906
01:40:09,840 --> 01:40:12,040
Speaker 1: most of them be at twenty three on a four.

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01:40:12,160 --> 01:40:14,519
Speaker 16: So it's a nice chance to just walk around compare

1908
01:40:14,640 --> 01:40:16,600
Speaker 16: if you, Starlie said, if you've got your list, you

1909
01:40:16,640 --> 01:40:18,200
Speaker 16: can narrow it, you can expand it.

1910
01:40:18,439 --> 01:40:19,280
Speaker 1: A lot of people do that.

1911
01:40:19,960 --> 01:40:22,080
Speaker 16: You see something you didn't know was out there on

1912
01:40:22,200 --> 01:40:24,400
Speaker 16: the market. So it's a great chance just to experience

1913
01:40:24,439 --> 01:40:27,280
Speaker 16: some of that, explore the technologies. They'll be product specialists

1914
01:40:27,280 --> 01:40:29,720
Speaker 16: there to explain some of the features and really find

1915
01:40:29,760 --> 01:40:31,840
Speaker 16: something that fits your lifestyle where you are right now.

1916
01:40:32,280 --> 01:40:35,000
Speaker 1: Well, and also as I see an opportunity to take

1917
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Speaker 1: a test drive, I see Chevy's got a test drive thing.

1918
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Speaker 16: Yeah, Chevroleo have what five six vehicles there and you

1919
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Speaker 16: can register for that in the lobby. BMW will do

1920
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Speaker 16: it as well, so you'll have a chance to drive

1921
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Speaker 16: those around the streets of Cincinnati. They'll pick out a

1922
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Speaker 16: course for you and you'll be able to experience all

1923
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Speaker 16: those vehicles. You can do one, you can do the

1924
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Speaker 16: entire lineup that they'll have there, so you can register

1925
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Speaker 16: for those right when you walk into the convention center.

1926
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Speaker 16: You'll see that registration there.

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Speaker 1: Well, and I know it's this is a family friendly

1928
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Speaker 1: of you got you have opportunities for kids to actually

1929
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Speaker 1: stay entertained as well.

1930
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Speaker 16: Yes, our Toyota dealers here in Nord of Kentucky Greater

1931
01:41:06,320 --> 01:41:08,880
Speaker 16: Cincinnati are bringing us the family zone again, so we'll

1932
01:41:08,920 --> 01:41:12,160
Speaker 16: have the crafts, we'll have the Dragonfly fire truck will

1933
01:41:12,200 --> 01:41:16,280
Speaker 16: be there. Dragonfly Foundation has a nice relationship with what

1934
01:41:16,400 --> 01:41:19,599
Speaker 16: is it, the Miami Township Miami Township Fire, so they'll

1935
01:41:19,640 --> 01:41:22,800
Speaker 16: bring their their fire truck down all the activities that way.

1936
01:41:22,840 --> 01:41:25,040
Speaker 16: And then also you know, children are the kind of

1937
01:41:25,080 --> 01:41:27,640
Speaker 16: the influencers in the purchase. So if they're comfortable in

1938
01:41:27,720 --> 01:41:31,400
Speaker 16: the vehicle, then you're more likely to maybe purchase that vehicle.

1939
01:41:31,479 --> 01:41:33,479
Speaker 16: But you always want their input, right, because they're going

1940
01:41:33,520 --> 01:41:34,920
Speaker 16: to spend as much time in the car as you

1941
01:41:35,080 --> 01:41:36,760
Speaker 16: And if they're making a lot of noise in the bag,

1942
01:41:36,800 --> 01:41:39,120
Speaker 16: that's probably not good. But if they're comfortable, maybe a

1943
01:41:39,120 --> 01:41:40,160
Speaker 16: little quieter, right.

1944
01:41:40,280 --> 01:41:42,439
Speaker 1: I get that all day long. And of course you

1945
01:41:42,520 --> 01:41:44,680
Speaker 1: have the super up Pet Park. They're partnering with the

1946
01:41:44,760 --> 01:41:48,559
Speaker 1: League of Animal Welfare of Batavia and Lucky Tails Rescue

1947
01:41:48,680 --> 01:41:51,040
Speaker 1: of Fort Thomas, Kentucky. And salute to all three of

1948
01:41:51,080 --> 01:41:54,559
Speaker 1: those organizations because there's going to be adoptable animals, correct there.

1949
01:41:55,040 --> 01:41:56,519
Speaker 1: I love that you're doing that. You can get part

1950
01:41:56,560 --> 01:41:57,439
Speaker 1: of it. It's a lot of fun.

1951
01:41:57,560 --> 01:41:59,800
Speaker 16: You can expand your family while you're at the auto actually,

1952
01:42:00,000 --> 01:42:01,600
Speaker 16: and also see if the you know, lab fits in

1953
01:42:01,640 --> 01:42:03,280
Speaker 16: the back of your vehicle the way you'd want that

1954
01:42:04,320 --> 01:42:07,479
Speaker 16: same idea, right, Kids and pets rule the world.

1955
01:42:07,960 --> 01:42:08,280
Speaker 1: They do.

1956
01:42:09,360 --> 01:42:09,760
Speaker 2: I know that.

1957
01:42:09,880 --> 01:42:11,720
Speaker 1: I've known that for a long time. And what is

1958
01:42:11,800 --> 01:42:16,240
Speaker 1: this the ges Ge Credit Union's Dream Machine Boulevard. This

1959
01:42:16,280 --> 01:42:18,360
Speaker 1: sounds like a place I might gravitate to, not that

1960
01:42:18,439 --> 01:42:21,720
Speaker 1: I could afford necessarily anything among the collection of what

1961
01:42:21,840 --> 01:42:24,880
Speaker 1: are described to me as the hardest to find, highly

1962
01:42:25,040 --> 01:42:29,280
Speaker 1: desirable models of models available at the at the at

1963
01:42:29,320 --> 01:42:29,679
Speaker 1: the event.

1964
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Speaker 16: You could be our liaison, our concierge for that for

1965
01:42:32,800 --> 01:42:34,920
Speaker 16: if you'd like, because you know the most about well,

1966
01:42:34,960 --> 01:42:36,640
Speaker 16: you're a sports car guy, so we'll have a lot

1967
01:42:36,720 --> 01:42:39,120
Speaker 16: of those there. It's we go to the dealers and say, hey,

1968
01:42:39,160 --> 01:42:41,719
Speaker 16: what do you have that's unique? So like a Nismo

1969
01:42:42,000 --> 01:42:44,760
Speaker 16: perhaps for Nissan, one of those models. Sure, we'll find

1970
01:42:44,840 --> 01:42:46,840
Speaker 16: those and they'll bring them down, display them. You can't

1971
01:42:46,840 --> 01:42:48,599
Speaker 16: get in them and touch them, but you can kind

1972
01:42:48,600 --> 01:42:50,599
Speaker 16: of appreciate them and well and take a look.

1973
01:42:50,720 --> 01:42:53,680
Speaker 1: Contrast that comment with all the other cars that are

1974
01:42:53,720 --> 01:42:56,720
Speaker 1: going to be there. You can get in most of them.

1975
01:42:56,760 --> 01:42:57,000
Speaker 5: You can.

1976
01:42:57,160 --> 01:42:58,840
Speaker 1: That's the point of it. You can get in touch

1977
01:42:58,880 --> 01:43:02,160
Speaker 1: and field check the quality inside and humanities and features,

1978
01:43:02,200 --> 01:43:02,639
Speaker 1: and that's.

1979
01:43:02,560 --> 01:43:04,519
Speaker 16: The chance to experience and explore Gary.

1980
01:43:04,800 --> 01:43:05,560
Speaker 8: I like that.

1981
01:43:05,840 --> 01:43:06,840
Speaker 5: I like that a lot.

1982
01:43:07,040 --> 01:43:10,320
Speaker 1: So the specifics, the whens, the where's the tickets? How

1983
01:43:10,360 --> 01:43:12,840
Speaker 1: do we get in touch with the Cincinnati Autoexpo dot com?

1984
01:43:12,920 --> 01:43:14,800
Speaker 1: That's easy, correct, You can buy your tickets there. So

1985
01:43:15,200 --> 01:43:17,000
Speaker 1: on Thursday we open up. We'll open up at three.

1986
01:43:17,080 --> 01:43:19,400
Speaker 1: That is opening day for the reds Now. That's happened twice,

1987
01:43:19,400 --> 01:43:21,160
Speaker 1: so we don't think it's a coincidence. We think they're

1988
01:43:21,200 --> 01:43:23,800
Speaker 1: building on our momentum in the market because the.

1989
01:43:23,960 --> 01:43:25,200
Speaker 16: Auto Expo is so popular.

1990
01:43:25,479 --> 01:43:25,960
Speaker 13: So we'll do that.

1991
01:43:26,120 --> 01:43:27,720
Speaker 16: You can get in for a dollar that day, or

1992
01:43:27,760 --> 01:43:29,240
Speaker 16: if you wear your reds geary, you can come in

1993
01:43:29,360 --> 01:43:31,760
Speaker 16: and we will omit you for free. Then we get

1994
01:43:31,800 --> 01:43:35,360
Speaker 16: going on Friday at eleven o'clock to nine. On Saturday

1995
01:43:35,439 --> 01:43:38,639
Speaker 16: the twenty eighth, it's ten to nine, and on Sunday

1996
01:43:38,760 --> 01:43:42,760
Speaker 16: the twenty ninth, twenty eighth.

1997
01:43:42,760 --> 01:43:48,360
Speaker 17: Excuse me, it's say six, you're moving to days we're

1998
01:43:48,400 --> 01:43:52,320
Speaker 17: gonna So this is a first Financial Center, correct new name,

1999
01:43:52,479 --> 01:43:53,000
Speaker 17: same place.

2000
01:43:53,080 --> 01:43:55,000
Speaker 1: I was going to say, this is the convention Center.

2001
01:43:55,080 --> 01:43:59,400
Speaker 1: It's due, but now pay Corsadia Paul Brown Stadium. I'm

2002
01:43:59,400 --> 01:44:02,360
Speaker 1: never gonna give up up on that convention Center. Have

2003
01:44:02,400 --> 01:44:03,920
Speaker 1: you guys been in the new Convention Center since it's

2004
01:44:03,920 --> 01:44:05,400
Speaker 1: been really Yeah, but it's very So we went in.

2005
01:44:05,520 --> 01:44:06,880
Speaker 16: We have to go in when they were setting up

2006
01:44:06,880 --> 01:44:08,920
Speaker 16: for reds Fast for so our first look at it,

2007
01:44:09,640 --> 01:44:12,479
Speaker 16: it's expanded in subspons it's a lot brighter, so I

2008
01:44:12,520 --> 01:44:14,600
Speaker 16: don't know if the inside's that much larger, but it

2009
01:44:14,720 --> 01:44:17,320
Speaker 16: looks larger and it feels more warm than.

2010
01:44:17,280 --> 01:44:18,800
Speaker 1: It used to. It's got a nice flow to it,

2011
01:44:18,880 --> 01:44:21,880
Speaker 1: though absolutely it does kind of broken up before they

2012
01:44:21,960 --> 01:44:23,080
Speaker 1: moved the escalators.

2013
01:44:23,120 --> 01:44:25,600
Speaker 15: They moved that coffee shop that was there, and it

2014
01:44:25,760 --> 01:44:27,439
Speaker 15: really opened it up and brightened it up.

2015
01:44:27,880 --> 01:44:29,880
Speaker 1: Well, it's a since an autox. But March twenty six,

2016
01:44:29,920 --> 01:44:32,880
Speaker 1: twenty ninth, at the Convention Center aka First Financial Center,

2017
01:44:33,040 --> 01:44:36,120
Speaker 1: kids under twelve get in free, which is cool when

2018
01:44:36,120 --> 01:44:38,240
Speaker 1: they're company by paying adult. I wouldn't send my under

2019
01:44:38,439 --> 01:44:40,720
Speaker 1: under twelve age kids there by themselves anyway, So I

2020
01:44:40,760 --> 01:44:45,200
Speaker 1: think we rest assured we keep them busy. And again,

2021
01:44:45,240 --> 01:44:47,040
Speaker 1: don't forget the opening night, especially if you want head

2022
01:44:47,040 --> 01:44:49,680
Speaker 1: down on Thursday, as he put his as Mike pointed out,

2023
01:44:49,760 --> 01:44:52,040
Speaker 1: one dollar admission from three pm to nine pm, or

2024
01:44:52,280 --> 01:44:55,040
Speaker 1: I guess Reds Gear, Reds Gear come on in. You're

2025
01:44:55,040 --> 01:44:56,600
Speaker 1: gonna have it on anyway, you may as well do

2026
01:44:56,720 --> 01:44:59,559
Speaker 1: that great opportunity to see all the automobiles in one spot.

2027
01:44:59,600 --> 01:45:03,000
Speaker 1: And I I it's I think these things are outstanding events,

2028
01:45:03,040 --> 01:45:04,840
Speaker 1: So bring the kids have some fun. Pick out which

2029
01:45:04,880 --> 01:45:07,120
Speaker 1: car you want and uh, I guess talk to the

2030
01:45:07,200 --> 01:45:09,559
Speaker 1: sales rep. So be happy to say a car wire there.

2031
01:45:10,280 --> 01:45:13,479
Speaker 1: Oh am, I just reading this and since any Bengals

2032
01:45:13,479 --> 01:45:17,920
Speaker 1: are going to be there on the top of the

2033
01:45:18,000 --> 01:45:21,799
Speaker 1: list Lady edition but just as important.

2034
01:45:21,800 --> 01:45:23,920
Speaker 16: But yeah, it's two to four on Saturday, so that's

2035
01:45:23,920 --> 01:45:26,760
Speaker 16: the twenty eighth you can see who day and a

2036
01:45:26,800 --> 01:45:29,000
Speaker 16: couple of Bengals join us. That'll be awesome.

2037
01:45:29,200 --> 01:45:30,960
Speaker 1: Oh and you know one more thing that I just saw.

2038
01:45:31,080 --> 01:45:34,160
Speaker 1: Since any campground, they're bringing guest opportunities to explore more

2039
01:45:34,200 --> 01:45:40,080
Speaker 1: than twenty premium RVs. My sister has a couple of

2040
01:45:40,080 --> 01:45:42,800
Speaker 1: their friends that she and her spouse are friends with,

2041
01:45:42,960 --> 01:45:46,479
Speaker 1: and they spent two years driving around in an RV

2042
01:45:46,600 --> 01:45:48,560
Speaker 1: across the country and they had the greatest time. What

2043
01:45:48,640 --> 01:45:50,599
Speaker 1: they were doing was driving around looking for a place

2044
01:45:50,680 --> 01:45:54,559
Speaker 1: to take up permanent residence. It's good to experience different towns,

2045
01:45:54,640 --> 01:45:57,400
Speaker 1: different neighborhoods. They moved on, you know, they get work,

2046
01:45:58,200 --> 01:46:00,400
Speaker 1: I do believe so, but they still have that thing

2047
01:46:00,439 --> 01:46:02,719
Speaker 1: and they still drive all over the place. It sounds

2048
01:46:03,560 --> 01:46:06,800
Speaker 1: really exciting. And then I step back from it, and

2049
01:46:06,920 --> 01:46:09,320
Speaker 1: then I started applying my logical and reasonable brain to

2050
01:46:09,439 --> 01:46:13,160
Speaker 1: the realities of living in one of them in close

2051
01:46:13,280 --> 01:46:15,680
Speaker 1: quarters with your spouse for a long period of time,

2052
01:46:15,720 --> 01:46:18,520
Speaker 1: and I think that could be a challenge. Anyway, crv's

2053
01:46:18,560 --> 01:46:22,759
Speaker 1: down there as well. It's the Greater Cincinnati Automobile Dealers

2054
01:46:22,800 --> 01:46:26,880
Speaker 1: Association's Auto Expo. Get the information fifty five cars dot com.

2055
01:46:27,000 --> 01:46:28,040
Speaker 1: Jill put a link on there, but if you just

2056
01:46:28,120 --> 01:46:29,400
Speaker 1: want to go directly to the site and get your

2057
01:46:29,439 --> 01:46:32,639
Speaker 1: ticket Cincinnati Autoexpo dot com. It's been a pleasure having

2058
01:46:32,680 --> 01:46:34,679
Speaker 1: you guys in the studio. Have good luck on the event,

2059
01:46:34,800 --> 01:46:37,960
Speaker 1: Charlie and Mike. I hope it's a really successful event.

2060
01:46:38,040 --> 01:46:39,040
Speaker 13: Thank you, Thanks so much.

2061
01:46:39,080 --> 01:46:41,439
Speaker 1: Thanks for coming in talking cars with me today anytime.

2062
01:46:41,560 --> 01:46:43,719
Speaker 1: I have a wonderful day, folks, and I encourage people

2063
01:46:43,720 --> 01:46:45,760
Speaker 1: to stick around because coming up we're gonna be hearing

2064
01:46:45,760 --> 01:46:49,479
Speaker 1: about the new consumer A sixteens who do have carc

2065
01:46:49,600 --> 01:46:53,320
Speaker 1: de talk station. Tonight's the night not only we you

2066
01:46:53,360 --> 01:46:55,680
Speaker 1: learn about Frauda Minnesota, but you also learn about all

2067
01:46:55,760 --> 01:46:59,280
Speaker 1: the changes that have been ongoing lately in insofar as

2068
01:46:59,360 --> 01:47:05,960
Speaker 1: firearms and constitutional carry. And my next guest, Bob Jewel,

2069
01:47:06,040 --> 01:47:07,880
Speaker 1: is going to be explaining to you empower Youoamerica dot

2070
01:47:08,000 --> 01:47:10,439
Speaker 1: org being at seven PM. A lot has changed since

2071
01:47:10,439 --> 01:47:13,160
Speaker 1: Ohio first enacted constitution or concealed carry in twenty in

2072
01:47:13,200 --> 01:47:15,439
Speaker 1: two thousand and four. Has it been that long anyway?

2073
01:47:15,479 --> 01:47:17,479
Speaker 1: Bob Jewell knows everything. There is no about the law.

2074
01:47:17,600 --> 01:47:22,200
Speaker 1: Bob a registered Arrange Master, Advanced Certified Handgun Instructor, a

2075
01:47:22,280 --> 01:47:25,080
Speaker 1: graduate of the FBI Citizens Academy, graduate of the Law

2076
01:47:25,160 --> 01:47:29,240
Speaker 1: of Self Defense Instructor Program, annually participates in firearm training

2077
01:47:29,280 --> 01:47:32,479
Speaker 1: from top national instructors and has taught himself over six

2078
01:47:32,760 --> 01:47:36,479
Speaker 1: hundred hours of concealed carrying Advanced concealed carry classes. Also

2079
01:47:36,600 --> 01:47:39,840
Speaker 1: influential in writing the two Ohio self defense laws and

2080
01:47:39,960 --> 01:47:44,120
Speaker 1: authored numerous articles on tactical shooting self defense for national publications.

2081
01:47:44,800 --> 01:47:47,360
Speaker 1: He also happened to be leader of his church's safety team.

2082
01:47:47,439 --> 01:47:49,760
Speaker 1: Something you might want a factor into the equation. Bob Jewell,

2083
01:47:49,800 --> 01:47:51,280
Speaker 1: Welcome to the Morning Show. It's great to have you

2084
01:47:51,360 --> 01:47:51,760
Speaker 1: on today.

2085
01:47:52,880 --> 01:47:53,679
Speaker 7: Hey, thanks Brian.

2086
01:47:53,720 --> 01:47:57,920
Speaker 1: What an honor, No, it's distinctly my honor. I'm a

2087
01:47:58,000 --> 01:48:00,640
Speaker 1: fan of firearms. It's a hobby of mine. Plinking. I

2088
01:48:00,680 --> 01:48:02,519
Speaker 1: went out to twenty two to three this week with

2089
01:48:02,600 --> 01:48:04,680
Speaker 1: a friend and fired off about four hundred rounds and

2090
01:48:04,800 --> 01:48:06,680
Speaker 1: really enjoyed myself. And I've been trying to hone my

2091
01:48:06,760 --> 01:48:09,200
Speaker 1: skills now for a long time. Can never be too good,

2092
01:48:09,240 --> 01:48:11,080
Speaker 1: but you need to stay on top of the law.

2093
01:48:12,080 --> 01:48:14,559
Speaker 1: And as you point out, the landscape has now changed.

2094
01:48:14,800 --> 01:48:18,960
Speaker 1: Twenty nine states, how have constitutional carrying, Bob. That just

2095
01:48:19,080 --> 01:48:21,599
Speaker 1: means the Second Amendment means what it says, you're allowed

2096
01:48:21,640 --> 01:48:23,240
Speaker 1: to carry and protect yourself, right.

2097
01:48:24,560 --> 01:48:24,760
Speaker 5: Yeah.

2098
01:48:25,000 --> 01:48:25,360
Speaker 7: Amen.

2099
01:48:26,240 --> 01:48:28,559
Speaker 14: It's interesting to look back at Ohio and just see

2100
01:48:28,600 --> 01:48:31,840
Speaker 14: how how our laws evolved in those what last twenty

2101
01:48:31,960 --> 01:48:34,400
Speaker 14: twenty one years since we got the governor to sign

2102
01:48:34,439 --> 01:48:35,880
Speaker 14: it in two thousand and four.

2103
01:48:36,520 --> 01:48:38,320
Speaker 1: And you'd think that wouldn't have been a difficult thing

2104
01:48:38,479 --> 01:48:41,880
Speaker 1: considering the do have a Second Amendment, although it took

2105
01:48:41,960 --> 01:48:43,840
Speaker 1: a lot of effort on the parts of many national

2106
01:48:43,880 --> 01:48:46,760
Speaker 1: gun organizations to come to this realization. I feel a

2107
01:48:46,800 --> 01:48:49,080
Speaker 1: lot more comfortable. And I know so many people that

2108
01:48:49,160 --> 01:48:51,879
Speaker 1: own firearms, and they are not They're the least inclined

2109
01:48:51,920 --> 01:48:53,840
Speaker 1: people to do anything bad with the fireman. In fact,

2110
01:48:53,880 --> 01:48:56,160
Speaker 1: they're the best trained folks out there. People who purchase

2111
01:48:56,240 --> 01:48:58,840
Speaker 1: and acquire handguns for lawful purposes. You don't have to

2112
01:48:58,880 --> 01:48:59,920
Speaker 1: worry about those folks, do you.

2113
01:49:01,560 --> 01:49:03,920
Speaker 7: Well, I'd like to think so.

2114
01:49:04,080 --> 01:49:07,280
Speaker 14: But over the last years, I've seen some very law

2115
01:49:07,280 --> 01:49:10,800
Speaker 14: abiting people end up in some serious legal trouble because

2116
01:49:10,800 --> 01:49:13,800
Speaker 14: of their lack of understanding of the law associated with it.

2117
01:49:13,960 --> 01:49:14,360
Speaker 1: There you go.

2118
01:49:14,439 --> 01:49:17,800
Speaker 7: I always felt like, Yeah, I've always felt like, when

2119
01:49:17,800 --> 01:49:21,479
Speaker 7: I teach a class, it's just not important to teach shooting.

2120
01:49:21,560 --> 01:49:24,400
Speaker 14: It's important to teach what I call the rules in

2121
01:49:24,439 --> 01:49:27,960
Speaker 14: the engagement that go along with having that gun, and

2122
01:49:28,000 --> 01:49:31,320
Speaker 14: the responsibility and the right that comes with the Second Amendment.

2123
01:49:31,640 --> 01:49:33,800
Speaker 14: So I think, you know, you can be pro Secondmendment,

2124
01:49:33,840 --> 01:49:36,200
Speaker 14: but you also need to understand the laws go along

2125
01:49:36,280 --> 01:49:36,439
Speaker 14: with it.

2126
01:49:36,800 --> 01:49:39,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, And it's with much dismay anytime I read an

2127
01:49:39,400 --> 01:49:41,439
Speaker 1: article about someone who goes out the front door of

2128
01:49:41,439 --> 01:49:44,160
Speaker 1: their home and starts squeezing off rounds at somebody who's

2129
01:49:44,240 --> 01:49:47,599
Speaker 1: on their property or trying to take their bicycle from them. Sorry,

2130
01:49:48,200 --> 01:49:50,559
Speaker 1: that does not allow for the use of deadly force.

2131
01:49:50,640 --> 01:49:52,360
Speaker 1: Let's talk about that one, because people quite off and

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Speaker 1: are confused. And I know you're going to go into

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Speaker 1: detail about this tonight beginning at seven pm. But the

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Speaker 1: use of the actual deadly force I've been through it

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Speaker 1: so many times on the on the Morning Show that

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Speaker 1: I'm blow in the face. But let's review, Bob Joel

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Speaker 1: the appropriate use of deadly force.

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Speaker 14: Well, according to Ohio law and most laws across the country,

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Speaker 14: you have to have a reasonable belief of an imminent

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Speaker 14: fear of death or serious bodily harm. That's that's pretty

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Speaker 14: solid across all fifty states. So that's gonna be the

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Speaker 14: first thing. And there's a couple of keywords in there.

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Speaker 1: Reasonable I know, I know, that's a great law. A

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Speaker 1: great word which is which.

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Speaker 14: You which you know from your legal background, is could

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Speaker 14: go anywhere. The other one, obviously, is the word imminent,

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Speaker 14: meaning it's coming down right now, it's going to happen

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Speaker 14: right now, you know.

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Speaker 1: And it's funny, like an eminent threat from Iran. Yeah, sorry,

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Speaker 1: you know, no.

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Speaker 7: No, I appreciate that.

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Speaker 14: The you know, it's it's funny use a citizen web

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Speaker 14: split second to make that decision, But once it gets

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Speaker 14: into the legal system, they'll take hours, days, months, juries

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Speaker 14: could take year, you know, months and days and hours

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Speaker 14: to revisit your decision that happened in.

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Speaker 7: A split second.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that breakdown of what would what would a

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Speaker 1: reasonable person be thinking at that moment in time is

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Speaker 1: the standard by which you will be judged. And I'm

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Speaker 1: sure there are a lot of people that might want

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Speaker 1: to twist that with twenty twenty hindsight.

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Speaker 7: Right and not to mention the video that will be available.

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Speaker 1: Good point, good point. Yeah, Now go ahead, go ahead?

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Speaker 5: No, I was.

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Speaker 1: You have the floor, Bob, go ahead.

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Speaker 14: One of the things that was really interesting when I

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Speaker 14: was putting this together was to go back and look

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Speaker 14: at the history of how we got concealed kerry in Ohio.

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Speaker 14: I don't think a lot of people know that nineteen

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Speaker 14: seventy four we actually got our first law passed. It

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Speaker 14: was a very weak law, but it was passed, and

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Speaker 14: in nineteen ninety six a bill was passed through the

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Speaker 14: House and the Senate.

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Speaker 7: But Governor Voinovitch said he wouldn't sign it.

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Speaker 14: So we could have had concealed carry as early as

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Speaker 14: nineteen ninety six, but it took on Ohio Supreme Court

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Speaker 14: ruling in twenty three that, ironically enough, was really predicated

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Speaker 14: on a twenty nine year old pizza delivery driver getting

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Speaker 14: pulled over by Hamilton County with a concealed handgun under

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Speaker 14: the nineteen seventy four law. He had a legitimate reason

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Speaker 14: he'd been robbed before, he was law abiting, so according

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Speaker 14: to that law, he could have carried, but instead he

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Speaker 14: was arrested. That case went to court eventually became what

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Speaker 14: was called Klein versus Lease Simon Lease that went to

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Speaker 14: the House Supreme Court yep, and the High Supreme Court

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01:52:39,800 --> 01:52:42,680
Speaker 14: basically said to the legislature, you need to fix this

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Speaker 14: this nineteen seventy four law.

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Speaker 7: It's not clear.

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Speaker 14: And that's what brought us up to the two thousand

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Speaker 14: and four law that Bobbiner path.

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Speaker 1: Under that original law, didn't you have to fall into

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Speaker 1: like one of three specific categories to be to justify

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Speaker 1: having a concealed carry weapon.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, you had to feel like there.

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Speaker 14: Was a legitimate threat that my understanding is this pepsa

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Speaker 14: driver had been robbed before.

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Speaker 7: Okay, obviously you had to be law abiding as well.

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Speaker 14: But the problem is it just left too much up

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Speaker 14: to the police that the way that law was written

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Speaker 14: into the courts.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, and who's to.

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Speaker 1: Say when you might run into a threat where you

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Speaker 1: are reasonably anticipating grievous bodily harm or death. You never

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Speaker 1: know when that moment in time is gonna come. I

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Speaker 1: personally experience that. I'm not going to go through the

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01:53:28,920 --> 01:53:30,599
Speaker 1: story again, but I had to pull out my concealed

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Speaker 1: carry firearm because I thought a guy was gonna literally

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Speaker 1: kill me, because he had been trying to kill me

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Speaker 1: as we drove up I seventy one, and I've talked

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Speaker 1: to law enforcement about that. I had absolutely every right

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Speaker 1: to pull that firearm out to protect myself because, Man,

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Speaker 1: I thought that guy was gonna go rogue on me

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Speaker 1: at that moment in time. Did I think that was

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Speaker 1: going to happen? Had I ever needed a firearm before

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Speaker 1: that moment in time, No, but be prepared. That's why

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Speaker 1: he needed to carry one. Now, what is one of

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Speaker 1: the bigger changes in the law that you're going to

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Speaker 1: be talking about tonight. That's a newer development that even

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Speaker 1: my friends out there that are experienced with firearms and

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Speaker 1: maybe firearms law might not know about.

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Speaker 14: Bob Right, Well, you mentioned one in twenty twenty two

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Speaker 14: we went to permitless carry. But I think I think

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Speaker 14: Brian a real significant one was in twenty eighteen we

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Speaker 14: shifted the burden of proof from the defendant in a

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Speaker 14: self defense.

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Speaker 7: Case over to the prosecutor. And Ohio was the last

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Speaker 7: state to do that.

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Speaker 14: So if you had used your handgun in Ohio up

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Speaker 14: to that point, you'd have the burden of proof in

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Speaker 14: the court room that your self defense was justified, and

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Speaker 14: that law was changed in twenty twenty eighteen to shift

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Speaker 14: that over to the prosecutors. Now you can imagine prosecutors

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Speaker 14: didn't like that show, but that's pretty significant. I would

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Speaker 14: hope that that nobody ever has to find themselves in

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Speaker 14: court justifying their use of self defense. But if you are,

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Speaker 14: I want to prosecute, to have that burden of proof

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Speaker 14: as not the defendant.

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Speaker 1: As well, they should you're basically accusing you of a crime.

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Speaker 1: The burden all always rest with the prosecutor's office on that,

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Speaker 1: and I find it shocking to believe that they didn't

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Speaker 1: always have that obligation.

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Speaker 7: Bob Jewels, Oh, and we were by by far the

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Speaker 7: last state to do that.

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Speaker 1: Well, I'll take progress whenever I can get it, even

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Speaker 1: if it's really slow, Bob. And I want to thank

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Speaker 1: you on behalf of all my Second Amendment appreciating of

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Speaker 1: friends out there and listening audience for all the work

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Speaker 1: that you have done over the years to achieve this

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Speaker 1: great status we have in Ohio, and real quick, I

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Speaker 1: know you're going to teach about self defense insurance coverage

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Speaker 1: and whether that's needed. You talk about laws involving traveling

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Speaker 1: with a handgun, information associated with concealed carrying, places of worship,

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Speaker 1: the whole gamut Tonight, seven pm and Power Youoamerica dot org. Uh, Bob,

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Speaker 1: really quickly before we part company, constitutional carry this whole

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Speaker 1: concept of nationwide reciprocity. Do you see that going through

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Speaker 1: on a federal level.

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Speaker 7: It's a good thought, Brian, but it's it's a long

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Speaker 7: way away.

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Speaker 1: A long way away, and I got a less don't

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Speaker 1: going back. We have a second amendment, you know, should

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Speaker 1: it be this difficult, Bob? I mean seriously, right right, Bob?

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Speaker 1: Good luck tonight with the seminar. I will strongly encourage

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Speaker 1: anyone who is maybe even interested in purchasing a firearm

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01:56:09,160 --> 01:56:13,120
Speaker 1: for the first time. The great foundation for firearm ownership,

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01:56:13,160 --> 01:56:15,440
Speaker 1: and of course everyone who owns one is going to

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Speaker 1: help get a lot of benefit from Bob Jewels Seminar

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Speaker 1: tonight and Power You America dot Org. Log in from

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Speaker 1: home or show up at three hundred Great Oaks Drive

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Speaker 1: and experience it live. In person. Bob again, thank you

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Speaker 1: for your time this morning, and thanks for what you

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Speaker 1: continue to do in the name of the Second Amendment.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Brian, Thank you. Eight twenty six. Right now,

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Speaker 1: it's that time. I heard Media fifty five KOC the

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Speaker 1: talk station, a twenty nine to fifty five KRCD talk

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Speaker 1: station Friday E. iHeartMedia aviation expert Jay Rattle of every

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Speaker 1: week here in the fifty five KRCY Morning Show again

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Speaker 1: appointment listening, regular guests, and I always look forward to it.

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Speaker 1: And lo and behold, what an amazing list of topics.

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Speaker 1: Jay Rattliff, Welcome back, my friend. We're never going to

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Speaker 1: get through them all.

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Speaker 10: I held back. I didn't want to, like, you know,

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Speaker 10: knock it totally out of your chair.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, lot's going on a.

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Speaker 1: Lot now because there's somebody I'm just going to dive

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Speaker 1: straight towards. Since we are in the middle of the

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Speaker 1: government shutdown, I think some people can keep forgetting that.

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Speaker 1: But the governments still shut down, which means some people

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Speaker 1: aren't getting paid, like TSA agents. I guess the lines

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Speaker 1: are getting longer. You reported that was it last week?

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Speaker 1: Three hour lines?

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Speaker 10: Yeah, and we're seeing that in Orlando or Chicago, JFK,

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Speaker 10: even New Orleans has has seen some lines two hours long.

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Speaker 10: And we're getting we're seeing hundreds of agents just quit.

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Speaker 10: The paycheck that they were supposed to get did not

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Speaker 10: was Wednesday the fourth, so like eight days ago.

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Speaker 5: And you know, these.

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Speaker 10: Individuals, even though they're government employees, Brian, you know, they

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Speaker 10: don't make a ton of money. So you're talking about

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Speaker 10: how long can anybody go by missing a paycheck and

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Speaker 10: you're expected to show up and work and get paid

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Speaker 10: at some later future date that you have no idea when.

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Speaker 10: And just like with the air traffic controllers when they

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Speaker 10: when they weren't getting paid, a lot of them opted

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Speaker 10: to do other jobs that they could get paid because look,

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Speaker 10: they get to put food on the table, and I

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Speaker 10: don't think anybody can you blame them for that. But

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Speaker 10: the longer this situation goes, the worst it's going to become.

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Speaker 10: With more and more of these TSA employees not on

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Speaker 10: the job, and at a time when we're seeing an

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Speaker 10: increased number.

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Speaker 5: Of people traveling.

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Speaker 10: So those are the exact two things you don't want

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Speaker 10: to see happen at the same time, and sadly that's

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Speaker 10: what's taking place here.

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Speaker 1: Sadly, indeed well pleased to see American Airlines is following

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Speaker 1: United's lead on kicking people off the plane for playing

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Speaker 1: loud music and videos without using headsets. It's so damn annoying,

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Speaker 1: Jay when people do that a.

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Speaker 5: Big time, Brian.

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Speaker 10: And this fortunately this plane was still at the gate,

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Speaker 10: still boarding, and she was playing a thirty second video,

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Speaker 10: just blared it on her speaker, and American Airlines, their

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Speaker 10: flight tens, came by, not once, but twice impolitely asked

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Speaker 10: if she could stop it. She refused to do it,

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Speaker 10: and they said, okay, then you're off the plane. And

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Speaker 10: she's like, what over a thirty second video? I can't

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Speaker 10: believe that? And the passenger demand Brian, that they contact

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Speaker 10: law enforcement, and you know what American did. And I

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Speaker 10: guess when the American or when the law enforcement officer

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Speaker 10: showed up, this woman who'd been drinking, screaming saying, you know,

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Speaker 10: I want to be able to express myself.

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Speaker 5: I should be allowed to do so.

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Speaker 10: And the law enforcement officer said, yes, you can, but

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Speaker 10: from the jet bridge, not the airplane.

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Speaker 5: Let's go out, she.

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Speaker 10: Went, and you know there's a chance she'll never fly

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Speaker 10: American again. And it just again, United in American and

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Speaker 10: other airlines are really clamping down on these individuals, saying

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Speaker 10: that you know you can't do this now if it

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Speaker 10: happens in the middle of a flight, I don't see

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Speaker 10: the flight diverting to another airport just to kick this

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Speaker 10: individual off.

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Speaker 5: But I do see that if you're.

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Speaker 10: Going to Chicago to catch a flight them saying, uh,

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Speaker 10: you're not catching your connecting flight, good luck at getting

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Speaker 10: where you're going, and then being banned from flying that

2348
01:59:49,400 --> 01:59:51,840
Speaker 10: airline for the rest of your life because you would

2349
01:59:51,880 --> 01:59:55,640
Speaker 10: not abide by the instructions of a uniform crew member, which.

2350
01:59:55,600 --> 01:59:57,120
Speaker 5: Happens to be a felony by the way.

2351
01:59:57,280 --> 02:00:00,680
Speaker 10: So yeah, there are consequences for actually into Some people

2352
02:00:00,720 --> 02:00:01,720
Speaker 10: are finding and you know.

2353
02:00:01,800 --> 02:00:04,480
Speaker 1: This sense that you know you're entitled to do whatever

2354
02:00:04,560 --> 02:00:07,640
Speaker 1: you damn well please. And this transcends listening to loud

2355
02:00:07,760 --> 02:00:09,560
Speaker 1: music while you're sitting next and sitting on a plane

2356
02:00:09,600 --> 02:00:12,840
Speaker 1: pack with people. People just generally rude and mean and

2357
02:00:13,080 --> 02:00:16,480
Speaker 1: and and disruptive, and it just doesn't go down well.

2358
02:00:16,520 --> 02:00:18,240
Speaker 1: When you're on an airline doing this, You're gonna get

2359
02:00:18,280 --> 02:00:21,400
Speaker 1: chucked off and barred from flying. When is the word

2360
02:00:21,480 --> 02:00:23,000
Speaker 1: going to get out on this chair. We just find

2361
02:00:23,040 --> 02:00:25,120
Speaker 1: ourselves in a terrible point and in the in the

2362
02:00:25,800 --> 02:00:29,600
Speaker 1: I guess in societal de evolution that we've crossed a

2363
02:00:29,680 --> 02:00:30,400
Speaker 1: milestone here.

2364
02:00:31,360 --> 02:00:31,920
Speaker 5: I think that's it.

2365
02:00:32,120 --> 02:00:33,640
Speaker 10: Cherry and I have got to dinner, and you'll hear

2366
02:00:33,680 --> 02:00:36,720
Speaker 10: somebody from five boosts away Blair and music, and it's

2367
02:00:36,760 --> 02:00:39,000
Speaker 10: a nice, expensive dinner where we're just trying to relax

2368
02:00:39,080 --> 02:00:42,360
Speaker 10: and enjoy ourselves and you can't because somebody's doing that.

2369
02:00:42,520 --> 02:00:45,600
Speaker 10: And it's almost at the point now where I'm surprised

2370
02:00:45,640 --> 02:00:48,520
Speaker 10: when it doesn't happen, you know, if I'm if I'm shopping,

2371
02:00:48,920 --> 02:00:51,200
Speaker 10: if I'm at grocery, if I'm wherever it might happen

2372
02:00:51,240 --> 02:00:53,600
Speaker 10: to be, and somebody didn't come by blabbing away on

2373
02:00:53,640 --> 02:00:56,800
Speaker 10: their phone speaker where we hear both sides of the conversation, and.

2374
02:00:56,840 --> 02:00:59,360
Speaker 5: I just I don't get it. I've never got it.

2375
02:00:59,560 --> 02:01:01,720
Speaker 10: And you know, in my in my younger days, if

2376
02:01:01,840 --> 02:01:03,440
Speaker 10: maybe four or five of my friends were out, we

2377
02:01:03,480 --> 02:01:05,440
Speaker 10: would have got behind him and all started screaming in

2378
02:01:05,520 --> 02:01:08,240
Speaker 10: our phone, uh, just to try to you know, ground

2379
02:01:08,320 --> 02:01:10,760
Speaker 10: them out, and then to look for that look on

2380
02:01:10,800 --> 02:01:12,400
Speaker 10: their face like what are you doing?

2381
02:01:12,640 --> 02:01:14,000
Speaker 5: No, what are you doing?

2382
02:01:14,120 --> 02:01:16,920
Speaker 10: But you know, obviously we're much older and refined now

2383
02:01:16,960 --> 02:01:19,120
Speaker 10: we can't do that. But sure it just you know,

2384
02:01:19,160 --> 02:01:21,160
Speaker 10: other than tasing them every time we see him, which

2385
02:01:21,160 --> 02:01:23,800
Speaker 10: is my number one choice, which is probably illegal. Uh,

2386
02:01:24,040 --> 02:01:26,240
Speaker 10: it's just there's no way to really snap people into

2387
02:01:26,240 --> 02:01:26,800
Speaker 10: good behavior.

2388
02:01:27,560 --> 02:01:29,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what parents were supposed to be for.

2389
02:01:30,080 --> 02:01:32,520
Speaker 10: Well, you and I were raised differently. Knowing your dad,

2390
02:01:32,720 --> 02:01:35,280
Speaker 10: I know exactly how you were raised by your parents,

2391
02:01:35,360 --> 02:01:36,360
Speaker 10: and and mine too.

2392
02:01:36,480 --> 02:01:37,560
Speaker 5: And yeah there's.

2393
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Speaker 1: Yes, sir, no, sir, yes, ma'am, no, ma'am. You know

2394
02:01:43,640 --> 02:01:46,080
Speaker 1: I got asked for permission to leave the dinner table.

2395
02:01:46,280 --> 02:01:48,800
Speaker 1: Oh wax and poetic about the old days, Jay Ratleive

2396
02:01:48,800 --> 02:01:51,880
Speaker 1: will continue. Cracked windows from a bird strike, there's that,

2397
02:01:52,280 --> 02:01:56,520
Speaker 1: and uh man, praying on a Southwest Airlines flight kind

2398
02:01:56,560 --> 02:01:58,600
Speaker 1: of devolved into a situation in and of itself. That

2399
02:01:58,680 --> 02:02:03,320
Speaker 1: a whole lot more with Jay stick around fifty five KRC.

2400
02:02:03,400 --> 02:02:05,800
Speaker 7: When people turned to telehealth for a talk station.

2401
02:02:06,760 --> 02:02:09,680
Speaker 1: You never been in a cockpit before a thirty eight

2402
02:02:09,800 --> 02:02:12,560
Speaker 1: fifty five kercity talks station. Brian Towmins with iHeartMedia aviation

2403
02:02:12,640 --> 02:02:15,800
Speaker 1: expert Jay Ratlo All right, so I was reading the

2404
02:02:15,800 --> 02:02:17,760
Speaker 1: story this morning, Jay Ratliff, The FEDS are a little

2405
02:02:17,760 --> 02:02:20,120
Speaker 1: concerned that maybe some drone strikes or a terrorist activity

2406
02:02:20,160 --> 02:02:22,480
Speaker 1: out in California. Everybody's on edge, and of course with

2407
02:02:22,680 --> 02:02:24,880
Speaker 1: the war going in Iran and recognizing there might be

2408
02:02:25,040 --> 02:02:27,200
Speaker 1: terrorists out in the world, people might be on edge

2409
02:02:27,920 --> 02:02:30,560
Speaker 1: and that might lead to panic. On a Southwest Airline's flight,

2410
02:02:31,080 --> 02:02:33,440
Speaker 1: I saw this article the other day. Immediately, of course,

2411
02:02:33,480 --> 02:02:35,960
Speaker 1: thought of you. I guess you can't pray or even

2412
02:02:36,040 --> 02:02:37,760
Speaker 1: have an alarm on your phone letting you know it's

2413
02:02:37,840 --> 02:02:38,600
Speaker 1: time for prayer.

2414
02:02:39,920 --> 02:02:46,320
Speaker 10: Well, I mean, this individual was acting strangely, according to passengers,

2415
02:02:47,000 --> 02:02:49,160
Speaker 10: who alerted the flight crew, and every ten minutes his

2416
02:02:49,240 --> 02:02:50,000
Speaker 10: alarm would go off.

2417
02:02:50,040 --> 02:02:51,120
Speaker 5: He would pray and.

2418
02:02:53,120 --> 02:02:55,960
Speaker 10: In a language people didn't understand, so they didn't know

2419
02:02:55,960 --> 02:02:58,480
Speaker 10: why he was praying. He seemed very nervous, they said,

2420
02:02:58,480 --> 02:03:00,920
Speaker 10: he was sweating, kept asking where his back was. And

2421
02:03:01,360 --> 02:03:04,480
Speaker 10: after about an hour of this the JFK to Fort

2422
02:03:04,520 --> 02:03:07,640
Speaker 10: Lauderdal flight, the captain decided, we're going to defer this

2423
02:03:07,760 --> 02:03:09,840
Speaker 10: bad boy and bounce it over to Atlanta and land

2424
02:03:10,880 --> 02:03:12,880
Speaker 10: so that, you know, law enforcement could board, just to

2425
02:03:12,920 --> 02:03:14,920
Speaker 10: make sure there wasn't a problem. They found that there

2426
02:03:15,040 --> 02:03:16,880
Speaker 10: wasn't a problem. They aired on the side of caution.

2427
02:03:17,120 --> 02:03:21,040
Speaker 10: But yeah, anytime that there's something like that, you know,

2428
02:03:21,240 --> 02:03:25,080
Speaker 10: I'm sure that the individual wasn't prosecuted, detained, or prevented

2429
02:03:25,120 --> 02:03:28,360
Speaker 10: from flying in the airline ever again. But when you

2430
02:03:28,480 --> 02:03:31,040
Speaker 10: have that kind of behavior, yeah, the airlines are going

2431
02:03:31,120 --> 02:03:32,280
Speaker 10: to be going to be concerned.

2432
02:03:32,320 --> 02:03:34,080
Speaker 5: Because the other thing is you don't know who this

2433
02:03:34,160 --> 02:03:35,360
Speaker 5: individual could be traveling with.

2434
02:03:35,880 --> 02:03:38,680
Speaker 10: And I can say from a safety related standpoint, one

2435
02:03:38,680 --> 02:03:41,600
Speaker 10: of the things that you look at when that happens

2436
02:03:41,760 --> 02:03:43,960
Speaker 10: is not that individual, but are they trying to create

2437
02:03:44,000 --> 02:03:45,920
Speaker 10: a distraction for somebody else that might be trying to

2438
02:03:46,000 --> 02:03:49,040
Speaker 10: do something. You've got a lot of things that are

2439
02:03:49,320 --> 02:03:52,080
Speaker 10: that they're out there as far as possibilities. So many

2440
02:03:52,160 --> 02:03:55,480
Speaker 10: times it's just not that one person you're concerned with.

2441
02:03:55,600 --> 02:03:58,280
Speaker 10: You're worried about those that may be traveling with him

2442
02:03:58,400 --> 02:04:01,000
Speaker 10: that were something's about to happen. So it's like if

2443
02:04:01,000 --> 02:04:04,080
Speaker 10: somebody tries to breach the security checkpoint at an airport

2444
02:04:04,120 --> 02:04:06,560
Speaker 10: and everybody looks in that direction, I'm looking another way

2445
02:04:06,880 --> 02:04:09,080
Speaker 10: in case somebody's trying to use that as a distraction

2446
02:04:09,280 --> 02:04:10,400
Speaker 10: to try to get something through.

2447
02:04:10,840 --> 02:04:12,600
Speaker 1: All right, So we don't know what language he was

2448
02:04:12,600 --> 02:04:14,800
Speaker 1: speaking in Maybe he was a Pentecostal. Maybe he was

2449
02:04:14,800 --> 02:04:17,160
Speaker 1: a Pentecostal person speaking in tongues.

2450
02:04:16,960 --> 02:04:19,920
Speaker 5: Jay, Yeah, it could have been. You never know, I

2451
02:04:20,040 --> 02:04:21,040
Speaker 5: don't think that was.

2452
02:04:21,440 --> 02:04:23,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know where we were going. I definitely understand that.

2453
02:04:24,440 --> 02:04:27,040
Speaker 10: I mean here within my seventy six pages of notes,

2454
02:04:27,080 --> 02:04:28,960
Speaker 10: here it says what language it was in.

2455
02:04:29,080 --> 02:04:31,440
Speaker 5: I'm sorry, I don't have that specific point memorized.

2456
02:04:31,720 --> 02:04:33,440
Speaker 1: We'll leave it to the listening audience to decide which

2457
02:04:33,520 --> 02:04:36,680
Speaker 1: language they think it was. Anyway, United Airlines had to

2458
02:04:36,720 --> 02:04:39,280
Speaker 1: turn around. Here's a reason to divert. A cracked windshield

2459
02:04:39,320 --> 02:04:40,920
Speaker 1: is a consequence of a bird strike. I thought they

2460
02:04:40,960 --> 02:04:42,440
Speaker 1: were designed to withstand that kind of thing.

2461
02:04:42,880 --> 02:04:45,200
Speaker 10: Oh they are, they are, But in cockpit windshields are

2462
02:04:45,360 --> 02:04:47,880
Speaker 10: multi layered, so it's not like a car windshield or

2463
02:04:48,360 --> 02:04:50,960
Speaker 10: anything like that. But when you have a cracked windshield,

2464
02:04:51,080 --> 02:04:55,280
Speaker 10: part of the minimum equipment list is something that they're

2465
02:04:55,320 --> 02:04:57,520
Speaker 10: gonna on a take off the windshiel gets cracked, they're

2466
02:04:57,520 --> 02:04:59,840
Speaker 10: coming right back and landing. And that's exactly what they

2467
02:04:59,880 --> 02:05:03,240
Speaker 10: did coming out of Newark. But roughly speaking, maybe twenty

2468
02:05:03,280 --> 02:05:05,280
Speaker 10: thousand bird strikes a year that are reported to the

2469
02:05:05,400 --> 02:05:07,640
Speaker 10: FA and not all of them are. And when you

2470
02:05:07,880 --> 02:05:10,880
Speaker 10: have that happen, you know, they happen all the time

2471
02:05:10,960 --> 02:05:14,080
Speaker 10: on takeoffs and landings. Typically what will happen is when

2472
02:05:14,120 --> 02:05:17,040
Speaker 10: the aircraft arrives at its destination, they do an aircraft

2473
02:05:17,320 --> 02:05:19,640
Speaker 10: inspection to see if anything is there. But when you

2474
02:05:19,720 --> 02:05:22,600
Speaker 10: have something like this that impacts the crew member's ability

2475
02:05:22,720 --> 02:05:25,880
Speaker 10: to have a visual on things that are happening, yeah,

2476
02:05:25,920 --> 02:05:27,480
Speaker 10: you're going to come back in land, and that's what

2477
02:05:27,600 --> 02:05:31,240
Speaker 10: they did. Nobody was hurt, but obviously, well it didn't

2478
02:05:31,240 --> 02:05:33,440
Speaker 10: go well for the bird, but as far as passengers,

2479
02:05:33,520 --> 02:05:36,360
Speaker 10: just the delay that took place, and again, these happened

2480
02:05:36,680 --> 02:05:40,760
Speaker 10: on a daily basis, and you know sometimes the bird

2481
02:05:40,800 --> 02:05:44,480
Speaker 10: strike isn't even detected until they're at the airport where

2482
02:05:44,480 --> 02:05:47,640
Speaker 10: they're flying to and somebody on the ground notices something

2483
02:05:47,680 --> 02:05:50,160
Speaker 10: as far as an indention or something like that that's

2484
02:05:50,400 --> 02:05:52,360
Speaker 10: forces maintenance to come out and inspects the aircraft.

2485
02:05:52,800 --> 02:05:54,600
Speaker 1: Well, it made me think of what was it the

2486
02:05:55,880 --> 02:06:00,440
Speaker 1: pilot scully who successfully landed or saved all the passage

2487
02:06:00,480 --> 02:06:02,480
Speaker 1: on the flight that landed in the river. That that

2488
02:06:02,680 --> 02:06:06,400
Speaker 1: was birds flying into the engines, right, it.

2489
02:06:06,560 --> 02:06:08,200
Speaker 10: Was in a shut both of them down and we

2490
02:06:08,360 --> 02:06:12,080
Speaker 10: never had a dual engine failure ever, and they were

2491
02:06:12,160 --> 02:06:15,160
Speaker 10: low altitude, so you had a situation in the landing.

2492
02:06:15,200 --> 02:06:17,840
Speaker 10: In the Hudson, it was called a miracle. The landing itself,

2493
02:06:17,880 --> 02:06:20,560
Speaker 10: to me, was never a miracle. It was the speed

2494
02:06:20,600 --> 02:06:23,120
Speaker 10: at which the crew made the decision on the Hudson that,

2495
02:06:23,520 --> 02:06:27,480
Speaker 10: to me was it. Because they had limited opportunities. And

2496
02:06:27,600 --> 02:06:30,240
Speaker 10: I thought the Clint Eastwood movie really bore that out

2497
02:06:30,280 --> 02:06:33,200
Speaker 10: well with regards to the you know, hey, let's get

2498
02:06:33,200 --> 02:06:35,520
Speaker 10: it down the river, let's put it here. We've got

2499
02:06:35,720 --> 02:06:38,520
Speaker 10: you know, a lot of vehicles that are already on

2500
02:06:38,560 --> 02:06:40,839
Speaker 10: the water at this point that can come and rescue.

2501
02:06:40,960 --> 02:06:43,080
Speaker 10: And now the plane floated long enough they were out

2502
02:06:43,120 --> 02:06:45,440
Speaker 10: on the wing, and we know the story. But yeah,

2503
02:06:45,480 --> 02:06:47,280
Speaker 10: bird strikes happen, and a lot of people say, well,

2504
02:06:47,280 --> 02:06:50,520
Speaker 10: why can't you put some sort of a filter or

2505
02:06:50,520 --> 02:06:53,160
Speaker 10: a fence or a grit or something that would protect

2506
02:06:53,200 --> 02:06:56,080
Speaker 10: the engines to keep the bird from you know, entering

2507
02:06:56,120 --> 02:06:58,919
Speaker 10: into an engine like that. But the problem is, anytime

2508
02:06:58,960 --> 02:07:01,240
Speaker 10: you have something in front of the engine, you're disrupting

2509
02:07:01,280 --> 02:07:06,520
Speaker 10: the airflow and it actually impacts the performance of the engine.

2510
02:07:06,640 --> 02:07:08,960
Speaker 10: And when you're talking about it, how many departures. Do

2511
02:07:09,000 --> 02:07:10,600
Speaker 10: we have a day versus how many bird strikes you

2512
02:07:10,640 --> 02:07:13,360
Speaker 10: have a day, and something like that. The stats just

2513
02:07:13,440 --> 02:07:16,520
Speaker 10: don't support us doing something like that because it would

2514
02:07:16,520 --> 02:07:18,680
Speaker 10: work against us much more than it would work for us.

2515
02:07:18,800 --> 02:07:21,960
Speaker 1: But they do throw geese carcass and turkey carcasses and

2516
02:07:22,040 --> 02:07:24,360
Speaker 1: things into engines to test them to make sure that

2517
02:07:24,400 --> 02:07:25,600
Speaker 1: they can always deal.

2518
02:07:25,440 --> 02:07:28,320
Speaker 10: With that, always, always, And you've got two engines, so

2519
02:07:28,760 --> 02:07:30,160
Speaker 10: you know when there is a bird strike or an

2520
02:07:30,160 --> 02:07:33,480
Speaker 10: engine malfunction, they shut one engine down. Look, you can

2521
02:07:33,520 --> 02:07:35,920
Speaker 10: fly across country on one engine without a problem at all.

2522
02:07:36,200 --> 02:07:39,960
Speaker 10: The issue is if both engines get impacted. Again, we'd

2523
02:07:40,040 --> 02:07:43,560
Speaker 10: never had that in history until we had the Hudson

2524
02:07:43,680 --> 02:07:47,400
Speaker 10: River landing. And there's birds around airports everywhere, and airports

2525
02:07:47,440 --> 02:07:51,320
Speaker 10: do what they can to try to remove the vegetations

2526
02:07:51,360 --> 02:07:53,920
Speaker 10: the birds may want to eat or be around. They

2527
02:07:54,000 --> 02:07:57,480
Speaker 10: do different types of things. And look, there's some airports

2528
02:07:57,520 --> 02:08:00,720
Speaker 10: that if there's a bird strike on a runway, they'll

2529
02:08:00,760 --> 02:08:02,520
Speaker 10: actually look at the bird and they have teams that

2530
02:08:02,720 --> 02:08:04,640
Speaker 10: look at what the bird was eating so that they

2531
02:08:04,680 --> 02:08:06,480
Speaker 10: could try to determine if it's around the airport and

2532
02:08:06,600 --> 02:08:09,640
Speaker 10: remove that so that they could you know, cause the

2533
02:08:09,680 --> 02:08:13,720
Speaker 10: birds to go away. But some airports use dogs, sonic cannons,

2534
02:08:13,760 --> 02:08:15,800
Speaker 10: different types of things that try to, you know, scare

2535
02:08:15,880 --> 02:08:19,800
Speaker 10: the birds away because yeah, critical time of any aircraft

2536
02:08:19,880 --> 02:08:22,880
Speaker 10: operation take off in landing, and when you're round birds,

2537
02:08:22,920 --> 02:08:24,440
Speaker 10: it's not a good thing, no question.

2538
02:08:24,520 --> 02:08:27,960
Speaker 1: But I appreciate the redundancy of that second engine anyway.

2539
02:08:28,280 --> 02:08:30,480
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, real quick, I like that too, real quickly.

2540
02:08:30,560 --> 02:08:33,040
Speaker 1: Here we had runway debris that ultimately resulted in the

2541
02:08:33,200 --> 02:08:36,160
Speaker 1: puncture of a fuselize of an airplane departing.

2542
02:08:36,480 --> 02:08:36,680
Speaker 5: Yeah.

2543
02:08:37,400 --> 02:08:40,640
Speaker 10: Yeah, we're always taught day one on the job at

2544
02:08:40,680 --> 02:08:42,680
Speaker 10: the ramp or a runway, you're looking for fod, for

2545
02:08:42,800 --> 02:08:45,440
Speaker 10: an object, debris, anything that might be on the ground

2546
02:08:45,480 --> 02:08:47,520
Speaker 10: that could get sucked into an engine that's at power.

2547
02:08:48,000 --> 02:08:50,200
Speaker 10: And you see them doing the runway inspections all the

2548
02:08:50,240 --> 02:08:52,520
Speaker 10: time with airport vehicles, even police cars going up and

2549
02:08:52,560 --> 02:08:54,200
Speaker 10: down the runway with their lights on.

2550
02:08:54,240 --> 02:08:55,040
Speaker 5: You think, what are they doing?

2551
02:08:55,080 --> 02:08:57,680
Speaker 10: They're looking for debris. And what happened was we had

2552
02:08:57,720 --> 02:09:02,360
Speaker 10: a United Airlines excuse the American Airlines American Egle flight

2553
02:09:02,480 --> 02:09:05,440
Speaker 10: taking off. It was a Bombardier seven hundred aircraft and

2554
02:09:05,600 --> 02:09:09,560
Speaker 10: it lifted off. It had a piece of foreign object

2555
02:09:09,600 --> 02:09:13,400
Speaker 10: that actually struck the aircraft and it caused an issue.

2556
02:09:13,480 --> 02:09:15,600
Speaker 10: They were about four thousand feet after they took off

2557
02:09:15,640 --> 02:09:18,440
Speaker 10: when they turned around and came back and landed. But

2558
02:09:18,600 --> 02:09:21,040
Speaker 10: fought is a very very serious thing. That's what brought

2559
02:09:21,080 --> 02:09:23,720
Speaker 10: down the concord. You remember that horrific class It was

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Speaker 10: in Europe because they ran over a bracket that fell

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Speaker 10: off of a Continent Airlines engine. So when they ran

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Speaker 10: over it, it went right into the underneath part of

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Speaker 10: the aircraft, punctured the fuel line, which created the fuel trail,

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Speaker 10: which ignited that you know, caused everybody on board to die.

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Speaker 10: So yeah, for an object of reason, just a very

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02:09:42,800 --> 02:09:45,360
Speaker 10: very serious thing at airports. And you know, fortunately in

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02:09:45,400 --> 02:09:48,680
Speaker 10: this situation everybody was okay. But you know that's one

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Speaker 10: of the reasons we make sure the runways are.

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Speaker 1: Clear all right. Well one where we know everyone wasn't okay,

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Speaker 1: And it remains a mystery after twelve years m H

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Speaker 1: three seventy an update from Jay on that one, plus

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Speaker 1: a couple of close calls, some new deals for flight

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Speaker 1: attendants or maybe not. You might get fired perhaps if

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Speaker 1: you're an American more with Jay Ratliff stick around me

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02:10:06,560 --> 02:10:11,240
Speaker 1: right back fifty five KRC, A forty nine to fifty

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Speaker 1: five KRSIT talk station. Bryan the Time, it's tucking with

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Speaker 1: iHeartMedia aviation expert Jay Ratlife as a wrap up at

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Speaker 1: the five KRC Morning Show on this Thursday, Deck Friday

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02:10:18,520 --> 02:10:20,240
Speaker 1: with Dave hat Or and Jack Windsor from the Ohio

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02:10:20,280 --> 02:10:23,320
Speaker 1: Press Network. Tomorrow, Jay Ratliff, it seems like a small

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Speaker 1: world until you start looking for an airline aircraft that

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02:10:27,280 --> 02:10:31,000
Speaker 1: vanished into a giant ocean. I'm talking about Malaysian Airlines

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Speaker 1: Flight MH three, seventy two hundred and thirty nine people

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02:10:33,840 --> 02:10:36,960
Speaker 1: aboard it disappeared without a trace, and they still haven't

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02:10:36,960 --> 02:10:38,480
Speaker 1: found it. It's been twelve years.

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Speaker 10: It's unbelievable, Brian, absolutely unbelievable. When the aircraft deviated from

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02:10:43,840 --> 02:10:47,600
Speaker 10: his planned flight path and it was obvious that there

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02:10:47,680 --> 02:10:51,600
Speaker 10: was an issue, the Malaysian government was contacted by nearby

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Speaker 10: countries saying is do you need assistance and the government

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Speaker 10: said no, We've got it. They did that for six hours.

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Speaker 10: By the time they did reach out for assistance, we

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02:11:01,960 --> 02:11:04,720
Speaker 10: had lost the window where a lot of things could

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02:11:04,720 --> 02:11:07,640
Speaker 10: have been tracked and done. And sadly, as We've talked

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02:11:07,680 --> 02:11:10,880
Speaker 10: so many times before. We track airlines using ground based

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02:11:11,440 --> 02:11:14,360
Speaker 10: radar line of sight, right, and there are times when

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02:11:14,400 --> 02:11:19,240
Speaker 10: an aircraft is away from this detection grid that we

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02:11:19,400 --> 02:11:22,200
Speaker 10: really don't know where an aircraft is. Now, if we

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02:11:22,320 --> 02:11:24,560
Speaker 10: tracked aircraft via satellite.

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Speaker 7: Like we do.

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Speaker 10: You know, a drug dealer on Fifth and Main tracking

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02:11:27,480 --> 02:11:29,560
Speaker 10: by his phone, got it. But we don't do that

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02:11:29,640 --> 02:11:33,360
Speaker 10: with aircraft because we're using such an antiquated that's the

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02:11:33,400 --> 02:11:35,800
Speaker 10: wrong word, because it's beyond that. But it's just a

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02:11:36,000 --> 02:11:40,000
Speaker 10: ridiculously outdated air traffic control system. And I really thought

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02:11:40,040 --> 02:11:43,000
Speaker 10: when this first happened and it woke everybody up, there

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02:11:43,040 --> 02:11:45,840
Speaker 10: would be really a push to say, look, we've got

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02:11:45,920 --> 02:11:48,760
Speaker 10: to make sure that we get away from this World

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02:11:48,760 --> 02:11:51,480
Speaker 10: War two based radar system right and go with something

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02:11:51,560 --> 02:11:53,720
Speaker 10: that's a lot more updated. And you know, the FAA

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02:11:53,800 --> 02:11:56,160
Speaker 10: has had an next generation system that they've been developing,

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02:11:56,200 --> 02:12:01,040
Speaker 10: which obviously is way past do and incredibly over budget

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02:12:01,120 --> 02:12:04,080
Speaker 10: at this point in time. But it just it's frustrating, Brian.

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Speaker 10: It really is.

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Speaker 1: Think about like on Star GPS connections and automobiles, they

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02:12:09,360 --> 02:12:10,880
Speaker 1: know where you are every moment in time. You know,

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02:12:10,920 --> 02:12:13,280
Speaker 1: if you're an emergency, You press a button, Hey I'm stuck,

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02:12:13,400 --> 02:12:15,000
Speaker 1: and they come and get you. How come we don't

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Speaker 1: have that on an airplane.

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Speaker 5: Duh, Yeah, it's well there.

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Speaker 10: We we do have the technology that could be applied.

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02:12:22,840 --> 02:12:25,720
Speaker 10: Could The problem is the black boxes. You could put

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02:12:25,720 --> 02:12:28,760
Speaker 10: a black box on there that transmits data constantly, but

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02:12:28,800 --> 02:12:31,240
Speaker 10: it's one hundred thousand dollars a pop, and there's no

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02:12:31,320 --> 02:12:34,280
Speaker 10: way an airline is going to do that because, as

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02:12:34,360 --> 02:12:37,120
Speaker 10: we know, history shows us that most crashes take place

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Speaker 10: on takeoff and landing, which is around an airport. Most

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02:12:40,080 --> 02:12:43,600
Speaker 10: of them happened over land, not over water. So you know,

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Speaker 10: when you've got that kind of situation, airlines are like, hey,

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Speaker 10: we're not spending hundreds of million dollars dollars to outfit

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Speaker 10: our nine hundred airplanes for something that wouldn't be used.

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Speaker 10: But you know, once out of every how many times?

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Speaker 10: So and then when you look at how rare an

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Speaker 10: accident is with an aircraft, it further pushed the bean

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Speaker 10: counters to say, look, we're not going to spend something

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Speaker 10: on something that is such a statistically low probability of

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02:13:08,760 --> 02:13:13,000
Speaker 10: taking place. So yeah, but again, we honor the lives

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Speaker 10: of those that are lost by finding out what happened

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02:13:15,320 --> 02:13:17,480
Speaker 10: and then trying to prevent it from happening again. We've

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Speaker 10: not been able to do that in over twelve years.

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Speaker 5: It's just amazing.

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Speaker 1: Is there not a corollary benefit or some other tangential

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Speaker 1: benefit to having that on an airplane other than the

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Speaker 1: very remote possibility that's going to disappear in an ocean

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Speaker 1: somewhere out there in the world.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, from a security standpoint, it certainly. But then you've

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Speaker 10: got to ask the question of what is security worth

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Speaker 10: and what are we willing to pay for it? And

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Speaker 10: that's simply something that is considered cost prohibitive. And that's

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Speaker 10: why when I hear our wonderful airline executives up there

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Speaker 10: in front of every podium and microponent interviews saying how

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Speaker 10: safety is there number one priority, I just want to

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02:14:00,040 --> 02:14:02,440
Speaker 10: throw something at the screen, like, yeah, it makes a

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02:14:02,520 --> 02:14:05,120
Speaker 10: great sounding point because you sound like a politician, but

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Speaker 10: when you look at where the dollars go, no, that's

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Speaker 10: not what happens, because we could do a lot of

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Speaker 10: things that are a lot safer, and we've talked about

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Speaker 10: a lot of those that aren't being done. And yeah,

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Speaker 10: when you're talking about a missing commercial jetliner. It is,

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Speaker 10: without a doubt the greatest mystery that we've ever had

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Speaker 10: in commercial aviation, because for us to not know where

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Speaker 10: an aircraft is at for twelve hours is extreme, twelve weeks,

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Speaker 10: twelve months is unheard of. To go twelve years, yeah,

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Speaker 10: I mean that's why. You know, we've had pieces that

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02:14:38,080 --> 02:14:40,400
Speaker 10: have washed up, they have partner numbers on them. They've

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02:14:40,400 --> 02:14:44,760
Speaker 10: been able to save those numbers correspond to this aircraft.

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Speaker 10: So the thought is, Okay, it crash somewhere, and we

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Speaker 10: were finding.

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Speaker 5: Bits and pieces here and there.

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Speaker 10: But right if it was a high speed water impact,

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Speaker 10: which it could have been, you'd have a debris field

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Speaker 10: that would have been extreme. You would have had no

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Speaker 10: trouble at all. Somewhere f find something. And they had

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Speaker 10: this latest search of one hundred and I think forty

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Speaker 10: four thousand square kilometers.

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Speaker 5: Over the Indian Ocean.

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Speaker 10: That was just the latest attempt because it was an

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02:15:09,320 --> 02:15:11,640
Speaker 10: area that really hadn't been looked at. But they came

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Speaker 10: back absolutely with no results whatsoever, So no closure for

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Speaker 10: the families and obviously no idea what took place.

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Speaker 1: A reminder how vast the world happens to be. I

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Speaker 1: heard me deviation next for Jay rattle of let's pause

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Speaker 1: and will end rather on hub delays. Didn't get through

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Speaker 1: all the topics, but we knew that was going to

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Speaker 1: be the case. Jay, what's going on with travel out

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Speaker 1: there today?

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Speaker 10: Yeah, draw line Houston right up to Washington, d C.

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Speaker 10: That's where we're having issues. Houston, Atlanta, Charlotte up towards Philadelphia,

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Speaker 10: New York, d C. Going to be seeing whether related

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Speaker 10: delays are seeing some in excess of an hour. It's

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Speaker 10: going to be a slow go if youre headed towards

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Speaker 10: the northeast. Even if you're going through Chicago out west,

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02:15:49,520 --> 02:15:51,320
Speaker 10: still might have some issues if your airplane is being

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02:15:51,400 --> 02:15:53,839
Speaker 10: routed through there. So you know, take an extra dissipation

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02:15:54,000 --> 02:16:00,720
Speaker 10: SA Oh yeah, yus early especially front getting paid and

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02:16:00,760 --> 02:16:01,320
Speaker 10: they're there.

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Speaker 1: Anyway, brought to you by mother nature delays. But then

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Speaker 1: there's the government shutdown delays that are brought to you

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Speaker 1: by Yes, the government shut down. Jay Ratliffe, God bless you, sir.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate the time you're willing to spend my listeners

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Speaker 1: with me every Thursday. I love talking with you, and

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Speaker 1: we'll do it again next Thursday. Best of health and

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Speaker 1: love to you and your better half to.

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Speaker 5: You as thank you.

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Speaker 1: Thanks brother. Take Thy five ifty five karsity talk station

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