WEBVTT - Eddie & Jason w/ Daniel LaBoard -- 10/22/25

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<v Speaker 1>With the inquirer. Your benefits plans are coming up here,

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<v Speaker 1>people with Medicare and stuff, and I don't know what

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<v Speaker 1>I should do about that because I'm sixty eight years old.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what, Let's let's get our guests on this

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<v Speaker 1>is cool to have. I can actually get a free

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<v Speaker 1>consultant here. But what we're talking about here when you

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<v Speaker 1>go in it is that time of year when you

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<v Speaker 1>you know, have to go back in and do your

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<v Speaker 1>insurance work. Insurance YEP, and medicare as a matter of fact,

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<v Speaker 1>that we're talking about pretty healthy jump in price here

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<v Speaker 1>to discuss daniel leboard lebroad from Healthcare Benefits. He's our

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<v Speaker 1>healthcare benefits expert. And daniel what are we looking at here?

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I think we're in for a shot this year.

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<v Speaker 2>We were kind of in our industry were.

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<v Speaker 3>Kind of warned about it earlier in the year that

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<v Speaker 3>we're see big increases. But I'll tell you, you know, we position.

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<v Speaker 2>Clients typically to say, hey, you're gonna have to look

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<v Speaker 2>at an eight to ten percent each year. You kind

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<v Speaker 2>of budget for that, and our goal is to always,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, hopefully get that down further.

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<v Speaker 3>I'll bringing an option that lower.

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<v Speaker 2>That, but right now across the US, we're seeing I

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<v Speaker 2>mean ten is on the low side. We're seeing twenty

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<v Speaker 2>and thirty percent increases, which is unheard of.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow.

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<v Speaker 2>And the youse don't even have to do with, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>any particular reason. It's just it's across the board, particularly

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<v Speaker 2>the small employers, those with under fifty employees who are

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<v Speaker 2>the hardest hit. They're gonna get destroyed this year. And

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<v Speaker 2>that hurts employees as well because they got to pick

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<v Speaker 2>up a portion or all of that increase as well.

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<v Speaker 1>So, Daniel, let me ask, and I think everybody's asking

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<v Speaker 1>the same question in their brain right now, is how

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<v Speaker 1>come on both sides of the aisle. Every year, every politician,

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<v Speaker 1>it seems like, running on we're going to get healthcare

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<v Speaker 1>prices under control, We're going to lower them this, that

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<v Speaker 1>and the other, and now stuff like this happens, and

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<v Speaker 1>it looks like, as you just said, you're we're telling

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<v Speaker 1>people to build in that cost for basically the rest.

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<v Speaker 4>Of your life.

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<v Speaker 1>Why can't this be controlled.

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<v Speaker 2>The only it can be controlled? And that's the problem,

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<v Speaker 2>The issue, the biggest issue we have right now is

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<v Speaker 2>the system is controlled by really two parties. You're controlling

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<v Speaker 2>it's controlled by the larger healthcare systems. You're you know,

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<v Speaker 2>in Dallas we've got big Textans Health and Presbyterian and Baylor,

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<v Speaker 2>Scott and White. Across the nation, you've got very large

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<v Speaker 2>healthcare systems and they work. You know, their primary payer

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<v Speaker 2>are the insurance companies. In my opinion, the two of

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<v Speaker 2>them are in collusion. You know, they're they're battling and

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<v Speaker 2>working on contracts to get paid by the insurance companies.

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<v Speaker 3>Thescurance companies are trying to pay them. But overall the

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<v Speaker 3>two of them are.

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<v Speaker 2>All they worry about is profit, and they have to

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<v Speaker 2>answer their boarder directors, and so there's a misaligned incentive

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<v Speaker 2>when it comes to the employers and the and the

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<v Speaker 2>public because we just want good healthcare and a reasonable rate.

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<v Speaker 2>But they're trying to but they're having an answer. They're

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<v Speaker 2>having answer shareholders, and they have to make profit. And

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<v Speaker 2>you know, it just doesn't work. And that's why rates

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<v Speaker 2>cup every year because they everyone has to give themselves

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<v Speaker 2>a ten percent raise every year. They have to go

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<v Speaker 2>to the board and say, hey, how do we make

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<v Speaker 2>more money? Well, we got to raise rates, how do

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<v Speaker 2>you that's it?

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<v Speaker 3>You raise race.

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<v Speaker 2>You have to do that, you have to pay providers.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just this back and forth between the two of them. Meanwhile,

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<v Speaker 2>we're sitting back here going we're footing the bill. So

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<v Speaker 2>there are ways, there are ways, however, to stop that,

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<v Speaker 2>and we're doing it at our company and a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of broken around the country.

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<v Speaker 3>But I'll let you kind of ask the next question.

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<v Speaker 3>I'll get into that.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, that was going to be my next question was

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<v Speaker 5>how do you break up? How do you break up

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<v Speaker 5>that party in exactly? How do you get more competition

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<v Speaker 5>in there?

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<v Speaker 2>And yeah, so it's not even competition. So it's comes

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<v Speaker 2>down to contract. So the largest payer of healthcare in

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<v Speaker 2>the United States and Medicare, they could everything is based

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<v Speaker 2>off of them.

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<v Speaker 3>So here's a good example and a way to understand.

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<v Speaker 2>How healthcare works with the health insurance company, the health care,

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<v Speaker 2>the health systems. If I get a h you said

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<v Speaker 2>you're sixty eight, I think ed right, you know, on

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<v Speaker 2>a day over forty, just so you know, So if

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<v Speaker 2>you go and get a procedure done and Medicare pays

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<v Speaker 2>that health system one thousand dollars for it, right, that's

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<v Speaker 2>the basis of all of all negotiation of all contracts.

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<v Speaker 2>Medicare is a basis. So Medicare pays that provider one

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<v Speaker 2>thousand dollars. Done, the health system says, hey, signa, we're

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<v Speaker 2>going to bill you six hundred percent Medicare. So they

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<v Speaker 2>bill signa six thousand dollars for that procedure, right, six times.

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<v Speaker 2>Now Sigma though says, hey, wait a minute, we have

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<v Speaker 2>a contract with you. We're going to go ahead and

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<v Speaker 2>we're going to We're gonna give you a fifty percent discount.

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<v Speaker 2>What happens then it goes down to three thousand. That

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<v Speaker 2>is still three hundred percent Medicare. We are paying three

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<v Speaker 2>times what that true rate of the procedure is. And

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<v Speaker 2>that's the problem with the system. The two of them

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<v Speaker 2>are overpaying. We're overpaying for care that we shouldn't be

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<v Speaker 2>We should be doing the same, and the public should

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<v Speaker 2>be paying the same amount of Medicare, or what we

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<v Speaker 2>call reference face pricing.

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<v Speaker 3>We pay a little bit more.

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<v Speaker 2>We say, okay, Medicare doesn't make it really profitable for

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<v Speaker 2>healthcare systems. I mean there might be a couple of

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<v Speaker 2>percentage points with a profit. We say, hey, we're going

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<v Speaker 2>to pay your fair. Reason about let's call it one

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<v Speaker 2>hundred and twenty five one hundred and fifty percent of medicare.

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<v Speaker 2>The healthcare systems make money. We pay a lot less

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<v Speaker 2>for the healthcare we're getting. And that's how you keep control.

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<v Speaker 2>That's how you controlled the cost of health care by

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<v Speaker 2>reducing the amount we're paying for claims.

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<v Speaker 3>And in that case, everyone wins.

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<v Speaker 2>The healthcare systems get paid, the employees get their health coverage,

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<v Speaker 2>and our rates stay down.

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<v Speaker 3>The only one not happy about it is the insurance company.

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<v Speaker 1>Daniel Lebrod is our guest. He is the CEO of

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<v Speaker 1>Ovation Health and Life Services. And so daniel who who

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<v Speaker 1>needs to make this change? Can we as people? I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>obviously we're the ones that are taking it up the

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and what can we do about it? Politicians

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<v Speaker 1>aren't doing anything about it? How can we change this?

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<v Speaker 2>So we're changing this. What we say is and I

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<v Speaker 2>have a mastermind group. We talk about this a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>We're changing one employer at a time. In my opinion, honestly,

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<v Speaker 2>it starts with the employers. The employers have to be

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<v Speaker 2>fed up and they are getting set up because they

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<v Speaker 2>can't afford it.

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<v Speaker 3>They can't afford to offer benefits.

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<v Speaker 2>The employers need to first of all, know there are

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<v Speaker 2>options and ways to do things, and these are things.

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<v Speaker 2>Number one, you need to go self funded, and we

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<v Speaker 2>can do self funding down to the smallest employer of

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<v Speaker 2>two people all the way up to thousand thousand. The

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<v Speaker 2>biggest companies in the nation use self funding as a

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<v Speaker 2>mechanism to control costs. You need to be working with

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<v Speaker 2>a consultant or a broker that embraces level funded self funding,

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<v Speaker 2>captives alternative funding situations. And some people think, well, that's new,

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<v Speaker 2>I've never heard of it. Well, first of all, it's

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<v Speaker 2>been around forever, and the ACA actually made it more

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<v Speaker 2>viable to do it for smaller groups. But actually, now

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<v Speaker 2>sixty four percent I believe the number is about sixty

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<v Speaker 2>four percent of all US employers are doing some sort

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<v Speaker 2>of self funding health plan. But that's still a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of those are the big employers. But still everyone is

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<v Speaker 2>starting to embrace that because of realizing it's the only

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<v Speaker 2>way to make change.

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<v Speaker 5>So my open enrollment's coming up in my company, whatever

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<v Speaker 5>they offer me, that's that's what I got. Or is

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<v Speaker 5>there a way to even is there an even little

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<v Speaker 5>tricks of the trade to kind of, you know, nibble

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<v Speaker 5>around and save yourself a few bucks.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, if you're getting through your employer, it really

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<v Speaker 2>has to go into the employees complaining to the employer, like,

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<v Speaker 2>we can't afford this, we need we need to look

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<v Speaker 2>at I heard about these alternative strategies which are becoming

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<v Speaker 2>the mainstream now. So you just say, hey, why are

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<v Speaker 2>we why are we fully insured? Why aren't we looking

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<v Speaker 2>at these other things, these other options? Have you talked

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<v Speaker 2>to our consultant ever broker about that. Unfortunately, the employees

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<v Speaker 2>don't know what they don't know, and they're just taking

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<v Speaker 2>what the employer gives them, and they don't have the

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<v Speaker 2>power to make necessarily make that change. I know in Texas,

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<v Speaker 2>if you're out in the you say, well, maybe I

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<v Speaker 2>can go to the individual market under you know, healthcare

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<v Speaker 2>dot gov and get a policy. Well, Texas, all that's

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<v Speaker 2>available is HMO with and nobody likes it, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>and so everyone is kind of stuck in. And even

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<v Speaker 2>those rates are terrible for the most part, they're going

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<v Speaker 2>up every year.

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<v Speaker 3>It does start, in my.

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<v Speaker 2>Opinion, it does start with the employer, but the employer

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<v Speaker 2>is not going to be making changes until either it

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<v Speaker 2>hurts their pocketbook or the employees complain enough that I

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<v Speaker 2>just can't do this. I can't afford this, And so

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<v Speaker 2>it is it's got to be there's got to be

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<v Speaker 2>that pain to make that move.

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<v Speaker 3>And I think this year is gonna be the year

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<v Speaker 3>of pain.

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<v Speaker 1>Daniel Lebron is our guest from Ovation Health and Life

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<v Speaker 1>and Daniel talk about that as I As I said,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not on medicare yet, but definitely thinking about it.

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<v Speaker 1>What should I get a consultant? Because I hear so

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<v Speaker 1>many people say, hey, talk to consultant, They'll tell you

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<v Speaker 1>what to do in the plans, blah blah blah. Where

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<v Speaker 1>should I just go home with these government websites and

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<v Speaker 1>look it over. What's the best option?

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<v Speaker 2>So as you come about Medicare, Medicare is really confusing.

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<v Speaker 2>We have we actually, you know, I have an in

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<v Speaker 2>house specialists for that. We help people get a Medicare

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<v Speaker 2>because it has so many options, you know, and you

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<v Speaker 2>see people we have someone on our on our staff

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<v Speaker 2>that turned sixty five last year.

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<v Speaker 3>Or in March, and you know they helped with it.

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<v Speaker 2>She's like, oh my god, I turned sixty four and

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<v Speaker 2>a half. I started getting My mailbox is full of

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<v Speaker 2>stuff on medicare, and I'm so confused, So I think

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<v Speaker 2>you need There's a lot of options out. There's Medicare supplements,

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<v Speaker 2>there's Medicare advantage plans. I personally like Medicare advantage plans.

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<v Speaker 3>I think they're they.

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<v Speaker 2>Give you the best coverage at the lowest cost. And

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<v Speaker 2>basically your your Medicare is paying a health insurance company

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<v Speaker 2>to pull you off of the Medicare books. Basically you

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<v Speaker 2>get better coverage through a private through a private insurer,

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<v Speaker 2>and it helps Medicare because now that the claims go

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<v Speaker 2>to the insured, not to Medicare, which helps to help

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<v Speaker 2>the Medicare system.

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<v Speaker 3>Fine.

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<v Speaker 2>Everything the financial decisions though, you have to look at

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<v Speaker 2>it and say, what's the coverage of those, what's the

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<v Speaker 2>cost going to be, and what is my best what's

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<v Speaker 2>best for me financially, And that's everything.

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<v Speaker 3>We have to be asked what HSA's earlier, and I'm like,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not a big fan.

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<v Speaker 2>Of HSA's any longer, but they have their purpose for

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<v Speaker 2>some people. You have to wait it out financially for yourself,

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<v Speaker 2>your family and what is best for you. And that's

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<v Speaker 2>where you definitely need whether it's a medicure consultant or

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<v Speaker 2>your employee benefits consultant, at your at your employer.

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<v Speaker 3>Somebody needs to be able to guide you.

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<v Speaker 2>Along that pathway, and you should be getting that kind

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<v Speaker 2>of service from your broker, consultant partner.

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<v Speaker 5>Anyways, you know, it's says she said about the HSA.

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<v Speaker 5>I just started doing one a couple of years ago,

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<v Speaker 5>and I like it a lot. It's maybe it's just

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<v Speaker 5>a mind thing where I'm like, Okay, there's a bill

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<v Speaker 5>that comes in as my kid went to the doctor,

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<v Speaker 5>and it's seventy five bucks. I'm like, okay, well I

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<v Speaker 5>didn't I didn't budget for that this month. Well okay,

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<v Speaker 5>no worries because I had enough in my HSA to

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<v Speaker 5>cover it. And you know, so it obviously still comes

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<v Speaker 5>out of your paycheck. But I don't know, I've kind

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<v Speaker 5>of come to like that. Why don't Why aren't you

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<v Speaker 5>a big fan?

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<v Speaker 2>It's in very So let's go back to an HCA's

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<v Speaker 2>came out originally, when they came out years ago, it

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<v Speaker 2>was it was the whole idea was that there was

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<v Speaker 2>a big cost difference between an HSA plan and say

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<v Speaker 2>a copay plan, So.

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<v Speaker 3>I could have my fifteen hundred dollars double copay plan.

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<v Speaker 2>It's five hundred dollars and my HSA plan is three

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<v Speaker 2>hundred dollars. Awesome, I say two hundred dollars a month,

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<v Speaker 2>I put it in an HSA account. Now it's twenty

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<v Speaker 2>four hundred dollars a year in that HSA account. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>saving money and I still own the cash, and I

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<v Speaker 2>only use it if I really need to. Makes total

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<v Speaker 2>financial sense. I've had h ANDSA plans. The problem nowadays

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<v Speaker 2>is the HSA premiums have caught up to the copay plans,

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<v Speaker 2>and so now employers put that in and the employee says, well.

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<v Speaker 3>I can't afford it. He said, I can't afford.

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<v Speaker 2>A doctor business this month, I have nothing, And employees

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<v Speaker 2>are not putting money into an HSA account any longer.

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<v Speaker 2>And so what ends up happening is the employee says, well, basically,

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<v Speaker 2>I have no coverage on my health plan, so I'm

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<v Speaker 2>just not going.

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<v Speaker 3>To go to the doctor.

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<v Speaker 2>And they're so they're getting crappy your coverage for the

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<v Speaker 2>same price you go. Now I have other other clients

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<v Speaker 2>that say, hey, I don't use it. If I do,

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<v Speaker 2>I can afford a doctor visit, and I want to

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<v Speaker 2>use that agency to funnel, you know, eight thousand dollars

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<v Speaker 2>a year for my family tax free. That's where we

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<v Speaker 2>see most people doing it, is they're using it as

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<v Speaker 2>a tax free you know, put money away tax free,

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<v Speaker 2>and that makes financial sense.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, Well, daniel Lebroad we could talk about this forever,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm sure we want to talk to you again.

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<v Speaker 3>Good stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>People want to find out more about what it is

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<v Speaker 1>you do there at ovation Life. Where can they go?

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<v Speaker 2>Uh? You dan Lebroad on LinkedIn great way to connect

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<v Speaker 2>with me, and then you can go to ovationlife dot

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<v Speaker 2>com and connect with us.

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<v Speaker 3>There as well.

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<v Speaker 1>Daniel thanks so much, man, Hey, thank you. Take care,

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<v Speaker 1>take care. And uh, it's also confusing. That's the reason

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<v Speaker 1>I brought it up because obviously all my friends are

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<v Speaker 1>about my age and everybody's is always talked about medicare

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<v Speaker 1>and trying to get on that, but even healthcare. I'm oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm I've had a healthcare system, you know, a plan

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<v Speaker 1>working at every job I've had, and every one of

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<v Speaker 1>those things, I was like, uh, just do what I

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<v Speaker 1>did last year.

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<v Speaker 3>That's what I do a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, frankly, you know what everybody does.

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<v Speaker 5>Frankly, take right, Frankly, you take it for granted, Oh, absolutely,

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<v Speaker 5>Like yeah, it's I mean, I'm saying we shouldn't should

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<v Speaker 5>certainly I shouldn't.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, the order are pretty important. It is yes.

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<v Speaker 1>With that, we check in with traffic and weather. What

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<v Speaker 1>is going on?

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<v Speaker 4>three five eight four pink. Seventy five southbound Goldberths to

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<v Speaker 4>Paddic a little heavy and southbound seventy five is songing

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<v Speaker 4>through the work on Reggan Highway down to Norwood lad

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<v Speaker 4>So planning a bit of a delay. Now went and

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<v Speaker 4>wrote a Dutch comedy. We have police activity report a

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<v Speaker 4>good idea if you can just avoid that area. Went

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<v Speaker 4>to northbound approaching Dutch Colony as an accident and cruiser

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<v Speaker 4>there also breakdown on seventy five northbound the on ramp

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<v Speaker 4>from Donaldson as a breakdown on the entrance ramp and

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<v Speaker 4>clean up is underway. We're seeing two seventy five northbound

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<v Speaker 4>something between two seventy five and twelfth Street. It's about

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<v Speaker 4>a five minute drive.

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<v Speaker 3>Now.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm Rick Shrimp Produced Radio seven hundred W DLW.

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<v Speaker 1>The forecast from a seven hundred WLW weather center forward

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<v Speaker 1>tonight partly cloudy and then clear towards morning. The low

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<v Speaker 1>of thirty seven for tomorrow sunshine and the high of

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<v Speaker 1>fifty seven. We're talking about a frost advisory for tomorrow

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<v Speaker 1>night on end of Friday morning. We'll talk about that tomorrow,

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<v Speaker 1>but right now it is fifty four degrees seven hundred.

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<v Speaker 4>W l W.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, mister Pennay, I'm going to show you some images,

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<v Speaker 3>and you tell me, what do you see?

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<v Speaker 4>Looks like a butterfly listening to Scott's Loan show.

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<v Speaker 3>In this one, I see a rocket ship. A rocket ship, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>for the planet Sloan, I see. And this one that

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<v Speaker 3>looks like a fish swimming in a mountain pond. Oh

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<v Speaker 3>very good.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but the fish is angry because he's not listening

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<v Speaker 2>to Scott Sloan.

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<v Speaker 3>Scott Sloan, please listen responsibly.

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