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Speaker 2: Welcome to the Friday Football Feest Buffalo Wild Wings. Blaine

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Speaker 2: nice jam pack rout. That's what we do with the feast.

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Speaker 2: You know what, you know what else we do? We

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Speaker 2: we kick off nine to noon with a little ditty

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Speaker 2: the Friday Football.

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Speaker 1: Give it to me.

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Speaker 2: Welcome, ladies and gentlemen.

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Speaker 2: Let's have a good time and find a way to

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Speaker 1: And all right.

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Speaker 2: Eric Nordquist, Mad producer from nine to noon, walking back

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Speaker 2: to the stage after assisting with the Blaine High School Band.

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Speaker 2: He's one of the co hosts Nordo Ladies and Gentlemen.

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Speaker 2: Can I get a wit us in a rackus roundup?

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Speaker 2: Alec Lewis from the Athletic Ladies and Gentlemen. Jared Wells,

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Speaker 2: engineer extraordinaire. Come on now, McK madden's street team is

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Speaker 2: over there and Devin Ward is guiding the Great Chip

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Speaker 2: Love Covenant from FM one hundred point three k fa

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Speaker 2: N and welcome to the Friday Football Feast. The Sultan

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Speaker 2: is here at eleven o'clock. The Sultan, the Sultan of

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Speaker 2: smug that's David Sinekon. He'll be here at eleven o'clock

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Speaker 2: and we begin like this, you know, during the course

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Speaker 2: football game, yours truly, maybe Nordo, maybe Alec. We'll get

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Speaker 2: the opportunity to do some out of market interviews or podcasts.

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Speaker 2: In this case it would be the Wisconsin market, Milwaukee,

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Speaker 2: Green Bay, et cetera. And I've done a couple of

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Speaker 2: those this week and we had Green Bay Packers play

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Speaker 2: by play voice the Dagger Wayne Laravion to start to

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Speaker 2: nine to noon yesterday and through all three of those

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Speaker 2: me that the Green Bay Packers facets of the Green

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Speaker 2: squad than I thought they would be for a six

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Speaker 2: presented with Wisconsin radio or podcasting included super negative on

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Speaker 2: the offensive line, the center camp play first round doesn't

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Speaker 2: have any touchdowns. They long for Tucker Kraft. Holy cow,

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Speaker 2: are they saddened by that loss? Evan william scares them,

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Speaker 2: and the Milwaukee Moving Company seems to be causing problems.

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Speaker 2: So that was an ear and eye opening for yours, truly,

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Speaker 2: six three and one versus our beloved four and six squad.

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Speaker 2: I felt good hearing all of it, To be quite

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Speaker 1: Four and six.

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Speaker 2: So what if we hooked this weekend boys with the

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Speaker 3: Yeah, two weeks ago, I think Matt Lafleur in the

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Speaker 3: Now he is obviously not under contract and they have

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Speaker 1: But yeah, this Packers team.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you hit the nail on the head from an

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Speaker 2: An offensive line persons. No, they're just giving your takes

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Speaker 3: From an offensive line perspective, they definitely are not what

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Speaker 2: The ball as well as they have. Yeah, we run, yeah, hopefully.

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Speaker 3: is interesting. I had a radio interview yesterday with Wisconsin

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Speaker 3: that a little later. I still think the kiddies are

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Speaker 3: they're not too far removed from getting a taste of

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Speaker 1: They're not too far removed.

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Speaker 4: For dropping what forty some on the Cowboys and then

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Speaker 4: I think they're a fan base that feels like they're there.

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Speaker 4: They're a fan base that feels like when you make

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Speaker 4: a move for Micah Parsons, you're not making a move

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Speaker 4: just to bolster the defense, just do improve the pass

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Speaker 4: you believe in late January that's when that stuff pays off.

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Speaker 2: Or perhaps they're looking at the totality of Jordan Lud's

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Speaker 4: And to that end, I think this is a team

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Speaker 4: at Dallas, just think about some of the way that

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Speaker 4: they've lowered themselves to the competition, whether it be the Cowboys,

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Speaker 4: and in obscure field positions throughout. So for Lafleur, a

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Speaker 1: That exist in big spots.

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Speaker 4: I think much like us as we're gripping right now

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Speaker 1: It was a roster built to win.

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Speaker 4: Just think about some of the things we've talked about

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Speaker 3: Right now, Yeah, I mean the difference for them is

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Speaker 3: BA and I are probably going to have a have

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Speaker 3: a knockdown drag out today about Jordan Love because I

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Speaker 2: The film tells me that, Yeah, in the first fifty

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Speaker 1: I look, we're gonna we can go back and forth on.

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Speaker 3: This all day, but I really think pocket movement, accuracy,

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Speaker 2: I have a lot of faith in this guy. I

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Speaker 1: Probably a top seven quarterback.

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Speaker 3: In the NFL, which is why you pay him the

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Speaker 3: fifty million. We can we can do this all day,

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Speaker 3: and I'm looking forward to it, but I really like

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Speaker 3: Jordan Love, and I think it's gonna be a challenge, yeah,

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Speaker 2: Time you and I mixed it up about a quarterback,

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Speaker 2: you know, we mix it up on quarterbacks. It's kind

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Speaker 2: of a bit speaking of quarterbacks. What are the expectations

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Speaker 3: I gotta be honest, Just take a step, like I

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Speaker 3: wish I could just remove, just remove myself from this

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Speaker 3: emotional wherewithal of all of this roller coaster.

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Speaker 2: And next, I mean the fatigue, the neurological pathway, footwork, balance, podgy.

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Speaker 3: Eyes, heads, no old head, dog walking, heads toes, knees

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Speaker 1: I I'm I would be honest.

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Speaker 3: I would be dishonest by saying I expect him to

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Speaker 2: Well, how about some contexts. He hasn't lost on the road,

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Speaker 3: He's also the worst quarterback in the NFL right now

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Speaker 4: But you don't have to defend yourself by the way

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Speaker 1: It's okay to say that.

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Speaker 3: Well, I just I have a hard time believing the

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Speaker 1: But how explain Detroit?

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Speaker 3: Well, I don't think he was incredible against Detroit, and

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Speaker 3: he made he made particular throws in that game that

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Speaker 3: he had to make to win the game. They ran

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Speaker 4: In particular his first two drives. Yeah, the key to

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Speaker 4: we couldn't stop him. It was Laporta on fourth down,

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Speaker 1: Again in scores the rest of the game, be damned.

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Speaker 4: In that moment really put him on a platform to

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I look, I probably sound like the

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Speaker 1: Just hard for me. A lot of the issues right

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Speaker 3: I mean, this has been the talker all week, and

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Speaker 3: it's exhausting, really, But I mean, the one thing I

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Speaker 3: will say is, these misses are there on the college tape.

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Speaker 1: You go back and watch.

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Speaker 3: Michigan, Rutgers, Michigan, Purdue, Michigan, Michigan State. There are sailed

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Speaker 3: misses all over the tape. Now, it didn't impact that

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Speaker 3: Like I don't view this as an unwinnable game at

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Speaker 2: Well, if you win a Lambeau this time, if you're

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Speaker 1: I just want them to take a step. That's it.

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Speaker 1: What is that? What is that? What does that?

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Speaker 2: That's that would be We're not talking about Jordan Love,

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Speaker 4: Say if you if you sail it over justin Jefferson's

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Speaker 2: Hey, Blaine High School Marching Band, you got you guys

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Speaker 1: Hey hey, hey, hey.

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Speaker 5: Hey, yes, yes, right on, yeah.

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Speaker 2: The Blaine High School Marching Band. Ladies and gentlemen, thank

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Speaker 2: you very much for everything. David Bashard, thank you very

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Speaker 6: This is quite the crowd. You love Blaine. I love Blaine.

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Speaker 2: I remember the last time you were here because we're

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Speaker 1: It was great to see you. It's good to see you.

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Speaker 6: Sure, I'm usually here for soccer or some sort of

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Speaker 6: But I'm loving, though, is the energy in this building.

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Speaker 1: It's a bit but.

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Speaker 6: Man, I thought we were Lake Build for a second,

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Speaker 1: Really go to early and bibing.

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Speaker 2: Uh So you know they're there's some hot high school

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Speaker 6: Yeah, big big fan of high school football. Love the

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Speaker 2: Hockey beating e Dina last year. Unbelievable hockey.

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Speaker 6: But there's a lot of good matchups all the way

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Speaker 2: Two weeks ago we did the Friday football feast at

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Speaker 2: Yes, the Minnesota Vikings. I'm just gonna go ahead and

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Speaker 1: You've grown by the way over the years. Right.

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Speaker 1: And you want to drive over to Tco and Egan.

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Speaker 6: But the reality is is you didn't get it done

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Speaker 1: We want them to run the clock.

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Speaker 6: We gave them a chance to kick it and return

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Speaker 1: They win the game. The way we go, you lose

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Speaker 6: Frustrated, Now you put yourself in this this territory of

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Speaker 1: And that was a jerk, knee jerk. That's why I

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Speaker 6: But the reality is is you have to now see

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Speaker 2: I'm waiting for somebody to explain to me why the

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Speaker 1: It's the same reason why we kept false start at home.

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Speaker 6: I mean, you gotta you gotta win football games, and

440
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Speaker 6: it's the NFL, and we're not we gonna see here

441
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Speaker 6: on Friday. We're gonna be moping and drinking our sorrows

442
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Speaker 6: away instead of drinking the celebration.

443
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Speaker 4: Well, let me ask you this though, because the way

444
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Speaker 4: that you talked about it, and why by the way

445
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Speaker 4: you've grown over the years, when you said they don't

446
00:21:53,080 --> 00:21:55,199
Speaker 4: give a hoot ten years ago, I would have been

447
00:21:55,240 --> 00:21:57,080
Speaker 4: back at the station beeping.

448
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Speaker 1: An F bomb. Indeed, I've gotten better.

449
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Speaker 4: But secondly, now you're sending this through the eyes of

450
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Speaker 4: it of a fan, because I am Kimmy. Mean, you

451
00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:07,959
Speaker 4: played some years where it was glorious. You're finding your

452
00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:10,440
Speaker 4: way into playoff games. We're trying to raise t Jack

453
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Speaker 4: in O nine. It's magical with Farb, like you've had

454
00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:15,960
Speaker 4: some of those crazy seasons that are unbelievable Teddy in

455
00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:19,400
Speaker 4: twenty fifteen, things like that. But I wonder as a player,

456
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Speaker 4: I can't tell you, as a player, well, at least

457
00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:24,640
Speaker 4: we're gonna get to see what JJ McCarthy has.

458
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Speaker 1: I mean, we got contracts, we got cash.

459
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Speaker 4: And some of these players may not feel the natural

460
00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:33,040
Speaker 4: urge to go and beat on Green Bay. They don't

461
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Speaker 4: see the border battle the same way that I don't.

462
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Speaker 1: Did you ever encounter.

463
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Speaker 4: Players where you could not have told them, well, I mean,

464
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Speaker 4: this is a complete l We're four and six, we

465
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Speaker 4: just got Dagger by the Bears.

466
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Speaker 1: But at least we get to see what the young

467
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Speaker 1: QB has.

468
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Speaker 6: Yeah, I think what you from a player's perspective, you

469
00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:49,840
Speaker 6: start to start to focus on yourself. You say, I

470
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Speaker 6: have to go play well, now you can do that

471
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Speaker 6: within the scheme, because playing well means I got to

472
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Speaker 6: do my job and make the plays in front of

473
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Speaker 6: me and execute Whatmever my job is. The more I

474
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Speaker 6: do that, the more good tape I put out to,

475
00:22:59,880 --> 00:23:01,320
Speaker 6: the more chance I a better chance I have of

476
00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:03,280
Speaker 6: keeping my job here and or find a good job

477
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Speaker 6: someplace else. So you start to do a little bit

478
00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:07,560
Speaker 6: of evaluation of them, say how am I playing? And

479
00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:09,280
Speaker 6: you focus on that. Now it turns into more of

480
00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:11,600
Speaker 6: a selfish look and selfish approach. But if you can

481
00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:13,920
Speaker 6: kind of if the leadership in the in the locker

482
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Speaker 6: room and the coaching staff can drive and focus that momentum,

483
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Speaker 6: just doing your job to the best of your ability

484
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Speaker 6: and focus on those basics. Just like we talked about

485
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Speaker 6: going to Detroit game, It's like, can we focus on

486
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Speaker 6: stop the run and doing our job and being visible

487
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Speaker 6: up front?

488
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Speaker 1: Can we do that and get that job done? We

489
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Speaker 1: did it. We got the win.

490
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Speaker 6: All of a sudden, as a fan, we're thinking, man,

491
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Speaker 6: this team, this team is who we thought they could be.

492
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Speaker 6: Now you have these last two weeks that played out

493
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Speaker 6: the way they did, so you start to you start

494
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Speaker 6: to sort of internalize and say I have to take

495
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Speaker 6: care of me a little bit because in the day, it's

496
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Speaker 6: your job and there's somebody right behind you.

497
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Speaker 1: They want to give the job too. They can pay

498
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Speaker 1: less to do it.

499
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Speaker 6: The team befit from that, but the team can benefit

500
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Speaker 6: if it's kind of if it's viewed from that, that

501
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Speaker 6: light up a leader which we have in the head

502
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Speaker 6: coach that you know, we all believe is a great

503
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Speaker 6: leader of men, who's going to get that point in

504
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Speaker 6: the right direction.

505
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Speaker 1: I think we have the right people in the locker room.

506
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Speaker 6: There's not a lot of me first guys in this

507
00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:01,000
Speaker 6: locker room from what I can tell, and I think

508
00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:02,800
Speaker 6: that really is gonna help us in this game. But

509
00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:05,840
Speaker 6: the reality is, this is an opportunity to go showcase

510
00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:07,840
Speaker 6: what you can do and obviously you get a win,

511
00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:10,000
Speaker 6: and they're they're selling hope in that locker room. But

512
00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:11,960
Speaker 6: we can still get this thing done without question, and

513
00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:13,040
Speaker 6: they have to be and they should be.

514
00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:17,280
Speaker 2: Alan do you happen to remember if it was O'Connell

515
00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:24,760
Speaker 2: postgame Bears Day after Bears nine to noon eleven Tuesday

516
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Speaker 2: or Wednesday into the Packers game when he went down

517
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Speaker 2: the road, Chad just went down but not necessarily from

518
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Speaker 2: a me first standpoint, but the players going out of body,

519
00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:39,640
Speaker 2: you know, kind of going cowboy on it because they

520
00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:43,080
Speaker 2: care so much. You happen that happened earlier in the week, right,

521
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Speaker 2: I think it was Monday. I was talking about the

522
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Speaker 2: kick return in particular. Where so was he talking about

523
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Speaker 2: the kick return? Well, that's what the answer is. I

524
00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:56,200
Speaker 2: don't recall him referencing the kick return, but yeah, you're

525
00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:58,480
Speaker 2: sitting there preaching that whole thing, and I'm looking at

526
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Speaker 2: alc Gonordo and you go on that. I mean, there

527
00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:04,680
Speaker 2: were three or four players on that kick return, probably

528
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Speaker 2: two three maybe who just they just they sensed it,

529
00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:09,920
Speaker 2: they felt it.

530
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Speaker 1: I know this is right.

531
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Speaker 2: I want to win so badly because it is a

532
00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:16,960
Speaker 2: very tightly knit group. When when Kevin says that, now

533
00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:19,680
Speaker 2: Alex around there more than me, but you know, it's

534
00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:21,880
Speaker 2: a tightly knit group. They really care about each other

535
00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:23,520
Speaker 2: and that game was there to be had, but you

536
00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:25,720
Speaker 2: might have had a couple on that kick on that

537
00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:28,160
Speaker 2: kick coverage kind of went cowboy on it, and there's

538
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Speaker 2: your dagger.

539
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Speaker 3: I mean, Kevin's point was like, these guys want it

540
00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:34,280
Speaker 3: so bad that you're seeing on a kick return like that.

541
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Speaker 3: Players take it way too like you know, they're trying

542
00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:39,280
Speaker 3: to make the play so far they leave the gap

543
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Speaker 3: that they've practiced all week with that specific kicker turn.

544
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Speaker 3: It's probably pretty natural. I don't know the word is

545
00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:47,560
Speaker 3: that is pressing. I don't know what the what the just.

546
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Speaker 6: You're trying to do too much. Yeah, just doing your

547
00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:50,560
Speaker 6: job at the end of the day, if everybody just

548
00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:53,119
Speaker 6: does your job. And you talk about gap defensive schemes

549
00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:55,880
Speaker 6: and football on the defensive side is sometimes you're three

550
00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:56,480
Speaker 6: gaps away.

551
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Speaker 1: But if you jump out of the gap.

552
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Speaker 6: Too early till the ball takes where it's gonna go,

553
00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:02,639
Speaker 6: all of a sudden, the running back puts his foot in

554
00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:04,920
Speaker 6: the ground, comes back to that gap that you left open.

555
00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:07,320
Speaker 6: So the reality is you have to do your job

556
00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:09,240
Speaker 6: all the way through and see it through and then

557
00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:11,320
Speaker 6: if that if you're in the gap the ball comes,

558
00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:12,480
Speaker 6: then you gotta make the play.

559
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Speaker 4: But you trust I mean, I just imagine being a

560
00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:16,560
Speaker 4: player in that spot they got you know, what was

561
00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:19,320
Speaker 4: it greedy? I think is how Daniels put it. But

562
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Speaker 4: you're thinking, I know they got three timeouts. If I

563
00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:25,399
Speaker 4: make this tackle at the seventeen yard line. I gotta

564
00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:27,919
Speaker 4: make them in fifty sevens like I would be thinking

565
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Speaker 4: that as I go out with the Specially if I

566
00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:32,000
Speaker 4: make this badass play here, they're not getting it at

567
00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:34,040
Speaker 4: the thirty five, I'm putting them inside the twenty.

568
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Speaker 6: If I have a perfect example. This is gonna be

569
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Speaker 6: bad for Gopher fans. But it was zero three in

570
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Speaker 6: the Metrodome. Oh jeez, Maroni Barber running game. We couldn't

571
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Speaker 6: slow them down.

572
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Speaker 1: They run for like three hundred and twenty on us.

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Speaker 6: They're driving down to get a get in your face

574
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Speaker 6: Resloyd maybe the kicker, trying to think of the names Lloyd.

575
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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah.

576
00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:55,280
Speaker 6: So they're driving down, getting feel positioned, and there's a

577
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Speaker 6: timeout and I go to the sidelines and kne they'renna

578
00:26:57,359 --> 00:26:59,520
Speaker 6: run another zone scheme. They zone schemed us all day

579
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Speaker 6: for like seven one hundred yards, And I said, I'm

580
00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:05,479
Speaker 6: gonna take a shot. And and the thing is if

581
00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:07,760
Speaker 6: you take a shot, you can't miss because you take

582
00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:09,560
Speaker 6: a shot and miss. Also, it's of twenty yards scampered

583
00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:11,399
Speaker 6: on the sidelines and they're kicking the field goal, right,

584
00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:14,879
Speaker 6: so you take a shot, you don't miss six yard loss.

585
00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:17,160
Speaker 1: They missed the field goal. We win the game. Did

586
00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:19,640
Speaker 1: you it was a Maroni?

587
00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:23,199
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm caught that shoe string on him, But the

588
00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:25,600
Speaker 6: reality was I didn't square them up and drive him

589
00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:26,040
Speaker 6: to the ground.

590
00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:26,640
Speaker 1: That's called a shoe.

591
00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:31,600
Speaker 6: But the problem is when you take a shot in

592
00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:34,680
Speaker 6: that moment of the game, you can't shoot and miss.

593
00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:37,240
Speaker 1: You lose a gap and you do it there. Now,

594
00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:38,000
Speaker 1: if you play.

595
00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:42,000
Speaker 6: Solid gap defense, that kickoff now has become a run game.

596
00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:44,760
Speaker 6: It's just a run scheme defense. Now you're in your gap.

597
00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:46,639
Speaker 6: You got to keep leverage and if it comes to

598
00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:48,360
Speaker 6: your gap, you got to make the play. That's all

599
00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:51,080
Speaker 6: that is. I want kickoff, return kickoff. So we just

600
00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:52,760
Speaker 6: got out of a gap. You jump out just like

601
00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:54,320
Speaker 6: that backside of the gap of a run game.

602
00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:54,840
Speaker 1: You left open.

603
00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:56,400
Speaker 6: All of sudden they hit it and hit the head

604
00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:58,160
Speaker 6: in the on the goalpost. And that's exactly what happened

605
00:27:58,160 --> 00:27:58,560
Speaker 6: in that play.

606
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Speaker 1: What did it say to you?

607
00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:03,200
Speaker 3: We talked about JJ and the struggles that he would

608
00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:05,640
Speaker 3: be able to navigate all of that in that game

609
00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:09,399
Speaker 3: and then put together that drive like I could in

610
00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:12,000
Speaker 3: the press, I'm sitting there like, how could he possibly

611
00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:15,040
Speaker 3: muster that? After what this day has been Yeah, I

612
00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:17,480
Speaker 3: would imagine or like I'd be curious what a player

613
00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:18,760
Speaker 3: would have thought seeing.

614
00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:20,200
Speaker 6: It was amazing to see him get into a rhythm

615
00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:22,200
Speaker 6: in the two minute drill. Now we can't come on

616
00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:23,560
Speaker 6: and play two minutes. I thought we did a better

617
00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:25,680
Speaker 6: job of run the football and being physical, like all things,

618
00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:27,440
Speaker 6: all things negative at the time.

619
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Speaker 2: Yeah, really, because this came up yesterday, right after, right

620
00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:34,280
Speaker 2: before practice, after I was walking out with you, Alec,

621
00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:36,440
Speaker 2: why why can't you run two minutes?

622
00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:39,160
Speaker 1: Why does it have to be within the final two minutes?

623
00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:43,120
Speaker 2: Jerun the quick to Hawkinson, quick here, quick there, tempo

624
00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:43,840
Speaker 2: as they call him.

625
00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:46,280
Speaker 6: Why can't you Well the reason we it was so

626
00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:49,120
Speaker 6: available is because when you get into two minute you

627
00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:50,920
Speaker 6: don't play a lot of man coverage. You sit back

628
00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:53,440
Speaker 6: in his zone scheme and you sit and catch saying

629
00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:54,840
Speaker 6: we're not going to get beat over the top. So

630
00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:57,360
Speaker 6: then all of a sudden, these really tight windows become

631
00:28:57,480 --> 00:28:58,880
Speaker 6: really big and all of a sudden.

632
00:28:58,640 --> 00:28:59,120
Speaker 1: JJ can hit it.

633
00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:01,360
Speaker 6: Me get him in a rhythm. Now, a quarterback in rhythm.

634
00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:03,200
Speaker 6: When you get you know, when you get all things

635
00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:05,080
Speaker 6: firy feel really good, you can make that throw. All

636
00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:07,040
Speaker 6: of a sudden you feel confident, just like shooting jump shots.

637
00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:09,520
Speaker 6: You know, all of a sudden things feel good. But

638
00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:13,000
Speaker 6: the thing that kept biting us, I'm not sure how much.

639
00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:14,720
Speaker 6: I don't listened to the radio all week, but were

640
00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:18,160
Speaker 6: the drops, the timely drops that killed this football team

641
00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:21,160
Speaker 6: at the same time we were struggling to hit throws.

642
00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:22,720
Speaker 1: It had some fifty to fifty to it.

643
00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:25,640
Speaker 2: I mean, if he's over, if he's not over shooting them,

644
00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:27,840
Speaker 2: they might be dropping them, and then he catches fire.

645
00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:30,440
Speaker 1: Right. Well, I think it's just a momentum game.

646
00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:32,400
Speaker 6: So if you catch that, if you catch that big,

647
00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:34,640
Speaker 6: that big third down and you move the chains, now

648
00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:36,320
Speaker 6: it's a momentum game. You get the running game got

649
00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:37,640
Speaker 6: going again. You get hit the ball back in the

650
00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:41,240
Speaker 6: quarterback's hands, or you walk off the field upset that

651
00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:42,760
Speaker 6: there was a drop, have to.

652
00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:43,320
Speaker 1: Wait and sit.

653
00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:46,080
Speaker 6: Defense takes five minutes ago off the field. Now you're cold,

654
00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:47,840
Speaker 6: you come back out. It's like starting all over again.

655
00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:51,440
Speaker 6: It's it's no different than just momentum rhythm. That's football.

656
00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:53,800
Speaker 1: Well, I wonder what the mental overlay is.

657
00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:57,360
Speaker 4: Specifically, early he misses Addison badly short.

658
00:29:57,800 --> 00:29:59,880
Speaker 1: You see that you end up punting later on, and

659
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Speaker 1: I think there was a there was a tug on

660
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Speaker 1: the jersey.

661
00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:04,320
Speaker 4: But a lot of people are talking about Addison over

662
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Speaker 4: the middle when JJ stepped up and his off his fingertips.

663
00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:09,160
Speaker 4: I think he was pulled on, but all the same,

664
00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:12,960
Speaker 4: he was pulled on the mentality of take that call.

665
00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:15,560
Speaker 4: I just wonder for a team, why can't we get

666
00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:18,400
Speaker 4: that call? I know, but we don't spend years, we

667
00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:22,200
Speaker 4: don't spend segments ever talking about man Addison in the

668
00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:25,080
Speaker 4: drop sies. We've never until the last couple of weeks,

669
00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:28,720
Speaker 4: talked about Jefferson being anything than an absolute animal on

670
00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:30,240
Speaker 4: the field for this franchise.

671
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Speaker 1: And I just wonder if there's kind of a mental side.

672
00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:36,800
Speaker 4: Effect to some of those misses that leads potentially to

673
00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:39,600
Speaker 4: some of those drops for a team that's just gripping

674
00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:42,040
Speaker 4: as tightly as they can to find any success.

675
00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:44,240
Speaker 6: And tip, let's be honest, it's not a skill issue

676
00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:46,040
Speaker 6: with these guys now taking catch the football. It's a

677
00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:48,240
Speaker 6: focus issue. It's I'm thinking about something else and not

678
00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:50,640
Speaker 6: making the play that I make all the time. So

679
00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:55,160
Speaker 6: I am I letting the frustration of something said overthrow,

680
00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:58,479
Speaker 6: said play call, said opportunity that I'm getting or think

681
00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:00,960
Speaker 6: I should be getting Now, I'm letting cloud my focus

682
00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:02,600
Speaker 6: of a game that happens all the time. The guys

683
00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:04,680
Speaker 6: who want more balls want, you know, a frustrate with

684
00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:07,080
Speaker 6: the quarterback or frustrates the protection, frustrate to play call now,

685
00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:08,360
Speaker 6: all of a sudden, you can't do your job because

686
00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:11,560
Speaker 6: you're thinking about something else. I also think in a

687
00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:14,720
Speaker 6: lot of situations when you talk about the two minute success,

688
00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:17,440
Speaker 6: shorter route concepts, quicker decisions, it's.

689
00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:17,760
Speaker 1: This or that.

690
00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:20,600
Speaker 6: So you know, a young quarterback, I like the idea

691
00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:22,440
Speaker 6: of like, we're going to give you a one side

692
00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:25,480
Speaker 6: to work off on and it's this or that, boom

693
00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:27,719
Speaker 6: balls out. We don't have to worry about protections as much.

694
00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:29,320
Speaker 6: But you have to get yourself in that situation right now.

695
00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:30,800
Speaker 6: If you're sitting a third and twelve, we can't do

696
00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:33,400
Speaker 6: that right. DV is gonna sit in the sticks. We've

697
00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:34,840
Speaker 6: got to have make a really hard throw in the

698
00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:37,440
Speaker 6: tight windows. But it's about getting to a third and

699
00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:40,360
Speaker 6: two right and then accomplishing that because the balls out

700
00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:42,520
Speaker 6: of his hands quicker with a quicker decision and two

701
00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:44,680
Speaker 6: minute gives us that, and then run a good running

702
00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:47,120
Speaker 6: game can give us that but these longer, he's fifteen

703
00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:49,040
Speaker 6: to twenty. Our route concepts that are taking a little longer,

704
00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:51,480
Speaker 6: that's the ones he's missing or that I've seen he's missing.

705
00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:52,560
Speaker 1: Okay, it's a.

706
00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:55,960
Speaker 4: Different position, but playing linebacker, how much in the hardest

707
00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:59,960
Speaker 4: position in football artist, So yeah, that's the most important position.

708
00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:02,840
Speaker 4: We got green dot, we got all those things. We're

709
00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:06,400
Speaker 4: checking coverages, all the whole bit. I know it's a

710
00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:09,920
Speaker 4: different position, but we hear a lot about even now

711
00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:13,400
Speaker 4: mid season teams four and six, we're talking about footwork,

712
00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:16,760
Speaker 4: We're talking about fundamentals and arm angle and mechanics. Right,

713
00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:19,840
Speaker 4: we're talking about that in November of a season. How

714
00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:24,040
Speaker 4: much in your career were you in November still thinking

715
00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:27,800
Speaker 4: about how my basic technique like that feels like an

716
00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:31,560
Speaker 4: off season conversation. It feels like in a game week,

717
00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:34,320
Speaker 4: the game plan and all of that should be the

718
00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:37,400
Speaker 4: dominant focal point where a lot of the conversations we're

719
00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:39,960
Speaker 4: having in and out of games are talking about.

720
00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:42,880
Speaker 1: Shoulder with hips turning, all of that. I know it's

721
00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:43,560
Speaker 1: a different position.

722
00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:45,800
Speaker 4: I'm just trying to think about, like in season, trying

723
00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:48,120
Speaker 4: to find the answers to those techniques.

724
00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:51,400
Speaker 1: It just seems like that's difficult to do neurological pathways.

725
00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:54,640
Speaker 2: I think there is a caveat here is you get

726
00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:57,680
Speaker 2: it already, you start with him, then you got to stop.

727
00:32:57,440 --> 00:32:59,800
Speaker 1: For a month and change. So I think that plays

728
00:32:59,840 --> 00:33:01,640
Speaker 1: it into the Yeah.

729
00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:03,520
Speaker 6: I mean, first of all, when you come from an

730
00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:06,280
Speaker 6: athlete perspective, like ever, you take your vitamins every day.

731
00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:08,800
Speaker 6: So just like your basic skill things that you work

732
00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:11,000
Speaker 6: on all the time, you do that in every practice

733
00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:13,360
Speaker 6: individual drills we do the first fifteen to twenty minutes.

734
00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:14,720
Speaker 6: You get out there and get your warm up on

735
00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:17,400
Speaker 6: your hand placement, get shock and shed, getting off blocks.

736
00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:19,600
Speaker 6: Those things are things you do all the time. So

737
00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:22,800
Speaker 6: from a technique standpoint, they're constantly working on them. So

738
00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:25,800
Speaker 6: and it's an imperfect game. You're constantly working that your

739
00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:28,400
Speaker 6: entire career. You'll retire never have being perfected what you're

740
00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:30,880
Speaker 6: supposed to perfect. That's the whole point, right is trying

741
00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:31,920
Speaker 6: to work for it but never get it.

742
00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:32,440
Speaker 1: Now.

743
00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:34,760
Speaker 6: The reality is is if it becomes an issue like

744
00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:37,120
Speaker 6: for me in my career, like when Zimmer came in,

745
00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:38,560
Speaker 6: like I was asked to do different things.

746
00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:40,280
Speaker 1: I was less covered up by a three technique.

747
00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:41,640
Speaker 6: So now you have to work on the technique to

748
00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:44,560
Speaker 6: get off blocks better without having Kevin Blander takes some stuff,

749
00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:45,480
Speaker 6: So now you got to go.

750
00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:47,320
Speaker 1: So that's an off season fix.

751
00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:49,560
Speaker 6: Then now during the season, I have to continue to

752
00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:51,920
Speaker 6: work on as I watch film and say, okay, I

753
00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:53,800
Speaker 6: missed this. I wasn't good at that. My hand placement

754
00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:55,760
Speaker 6: was bad, I didn't shock and shed whatever the issue was.

755
00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:59,160
Speaker 6: So neurological pathway, Yeah, that's if that's the words we're using.

756
00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:03,280
Speaker 6: Those neural neurological pathways. You have to be worked on

757
00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:05,880
Speaker 6: every day to become a habit. Rewired it, Yes, you

758
00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:09,160
Speaker 6: rewire it. I mean he he's raising Madden with a

759
00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:11,520
Speaker 6: killer crossover. I had to stop ten times so he

760
00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:14,000
Speaker 6: could work on his Tampa to drop. But anyway, yeah,

761
00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:16,680
Speaker 6: that's exactly what's happening when she takes the dog for.

762
00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:17,160
Speaker 2: A walk and.

763
00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:26,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel bad quick ten air shots. Yeah absolutely, Yeah,

764
00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:26,800
Speaker 1: build that pathway.

765
00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:32,719
Speaker 2: You know, daughters are suiting and over the shocking you

766
00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:35,640
Speaker 2: into the inside joke here because you've been busy this week.

767
00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:39,760
Speaker 2: McCarthy presser a couple of days ago talking about reconfiguring

768
00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:43,480
Speaker 2: the whole thing. Uh, basically paraphrasing was like, yes, all

769
00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:48,160
Speaker 2: of my neurological pathways are having to be redefined. Then

770
00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:50,719
Speaker 2: he talked about, you know, he's thinking about it so much.

771
00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:53,400
Speaker 2: He's out walking his dogs and they can drop and

772
00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:56,080
Speaker 2: he'll stop. Ten times he's in the deck, the hiffs

773
00:34:56,480 --> 00:34:57,319
Speaker 2: work on his drop.

774
00:34:57,719 --> 00:34:59,520
Speaker 6: I'm gonna I'm gonna call my high school coach, Myron

775
00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:03,879
Speaker 6: Stephan just thank him for not making me overthink football. Yeah.

776
00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:06,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's just go hit that guy as hard as

777
00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:07,320
Speaker 1: we can and bring him down to the game. I

778
00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:09,960
Speaker 1: do that position is as difficult as a quarterback. But

779
00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:12,200
Speaker 1: have you played Have you played nine man? Have you

780
00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:13,320
Speaker 1: played nine man quarterback?

781
00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:13,560
Speaker 5: Well?

782
00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:17,800
Speaker 1: I worked in San Francio. I don't really wait to

783
00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:19,520
Speaker 1: talk about eighty by forty field.

784
00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:22,279
Speaker 6: Hardest position in football, hands down, So yeah, I played

785
00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:23,800
Speaker 6: that position before I want to hear it.

786
00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:26,560
Speaker 3: I do wonder sometimes though, if like the success in

787
00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:28,640
Speaker 3: the two minute is tied to just.

788
00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:32,000
Speaker 1: You're not thinking. I think you're just playing a.

789
00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:34,719
Speaker 3: Game and I'm not, Like, I don't know, I don't

790
00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:36,360
Speaker 3: know if that's a sustainable path, but I.

791
00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:39,759
Speaker 4: Do really Chip Kelly tried to run tempo like he

792
00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:42,520
Speaker 4: was running Oregon ducks at Philly and you out of

793
00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:44,480
Speaker 4: the freaking league and had to go back to coordinating,

794
00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:46,960
Speaker 4: and the Greenway team put fifty something on him, with

795
00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:50,520
Speaker 4: Asciata scoring three times, and then Chip was five year.

796
00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:53,080
Speaker 6: You know, I think there's a way, though, within a

797
00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:56,359
Speaker 6: game plan that you can say, on our third drive,

798
00:35:56,520 --> 00:35:59,400
Speaker 6: if situation is in this position, we could take a

799
00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:01,040
Speaker 6: shot and come out play two minute.

800
00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:02,480
Speaker 1: Yea, And I think I think they might.

801
00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:04,759
Speaker 6: And we've seen that over the course of We're gonna

802
00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:06,279
Speaker 6: go no huddle, We're gonna go hurry up. It's maybe

803
00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:07,759
Speaker 6: not a two minute, but it's gonna be two minute,

804
00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:09,879
Speaker 6: like we're gonna go muddle, huddle, get to the line

805
00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:13,080
Speaker 6: and go, you know, allow fewer subs defensively, try to

806
00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:15,839
Speaker 6: wear them down. Can we keep ourselves on the field longer,

807
00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:17,520
Speaker 6: keep the defensive on which has been an issue the

808
00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:19,839
Speaker 6: entire season, our inability to stay on the football field.

809
00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:22,080
Speaker 1: I just think it's one of these. And you can

810
00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:22,480
Speaker 1: guess what.

811
00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:25,319
Speaker 6: It's also easier to run the football in that moment,

812
00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:27,080
Speaker 6: because all of a sudden, you spread teams out.

813
00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:29,200
Speaker 1: Now you're blocking man on man and you have one

814
00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:31,359
Speaker 1: guy to make make make the play. They don't get

815
00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:32,560
Speaker 1: the sub and there's some other apps.

816
00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:34,719
Speaker 6: Now you gettle, you get a little fatigued, Harder, harder,

817
00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:36,480
Speaker 6: bring the guy down. You stay in there with a

818
00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:39,440
Speaker 6: big back, not a not a pass catching back. You'd

819
00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:41,960
Speaker 6: leave Mason in the game in that situation. Spread them out,

820
00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:44,160
Speaker 6: run the football. That's why, you know, even thinking back

821
00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:46,520
Speaker 6: to the high school football, Tamka trying to go for two,

822
00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:49,440
Speaker 6: they're trying to beat I Dinah. Last week they run

823
00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:52,279
Speaker 6: it short side. They stacked everybody in the box. They

824
00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:55,399
Speaker 6: just marched eighty yards to get down there. Spread them out,

825
00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:57,840
Speaker 6: make them make a tackle one on one in the box.

826
00:36:57,960 --> 00:36:59,920
Speaker 6: When you have DB's all over the place, they can

827
00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:02,760
Speaker 6: support the run game. But this is Minnesota high school football.

828
00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:06,640
Speaker 6: That would potentially involves football, but that potentially would involve

829
00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:07,120
Speaker 6: a pass.

830
00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:10,000
Speaker 1: It doesn't. Did you have you seen the Skippers play?

831
00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:12,560
Speaker 1: But no, I've seen any They can't play with that

832
00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:15,120
Speaker 1: hot with that hockey player a quarterback. Oh yeah, that guy.

833
00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:19,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, Connor was talking about that guy last Can you

834
00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:22,880
Speaker 2: can to close here? Can you imagine if you live

835
00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:26,120
Speaker 2: in JJ McCarthy's neighborhood and it's eleven o'clock at night

836
00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:28,400
Speaker 2: and you're just laying down you know, getting ready to

837
00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:31,040
Speaker 2: go to sleep and you hear somebody outside your window going.

838
00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:36,640
Speaker 1: Shadow starts bumping on the block.

839
00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:36,879
Speaker 6: Yeah.

840
00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:40,640
Speaker 3: I like like you're like walking the dog and you

841
00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:45,080
Speaker 3: see this guy on the other side just doing THEA.

842
00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:48,080
Speaker 2: Miss Winston hip thrusts. All right, this is nine to noon.

843
00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:56,120
Speaker 2: It's the Friday football what at Buffalo Wild Wings Blaine.

844
00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:59,320
Speaker 2: We have Alec Lewis from the athletic courtesy of Steve's

845
00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:04,760
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846
00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:08,480
Speaker 2: is here along with Chad Greenway. That's jub Nicmadden's street team.

847
00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:11,280
Speaker 2: Devin Ward guides it at KFA N and I'm Paul Allen.

848
00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:12,200
Speaker 1: We'll be right back.

849
00:38:26,719 --> 00:38:29,960
Speaker 2: All right now, I'm gonna take you back for a second,

850
00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:35,160
Speaker 2: Chad Greenway to October fifteenth of twenty eleven. Now, this

851
00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:38,560
Speaker 2: is I mean, there need to be several fairness and

852
00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:42,120
Speaker 2: whatever acts as disclaimers into this that I'm not going

853
00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:47,759
Speaker 2: to unfurl, because truthfully, all of us, if not most

854
00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:50,200
Speaker 2: of us certainly here at the table or a Buffalo

855
00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:53,719
Speaker 2: Wild Wings blame for the Friday football feast, are really

856
00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:57,400
Speaker 2: really hoping. JJ McCarthy is dramatically better than Christian Ponder.

857
00:38:58,080 --> 00:39:00,960
Speaker 2: But ears what I'm to bring up and how I'm

858
00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:01,400
Speaker 2: gonna do it.

859
00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:02,719
Speaker 1: Wow, We're gonna go there.

860
00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:08,040
Speaker 2: October fifteenth, of twenty eleven, Donovan McNabb taps out, he

861
00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:09,879
Speaker 2: and you played in the game.

862
00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:13,640
Speaker 1: Takes a safety, just like takes the safety.

863
00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:16,640
Speaker 2: Doesn't even try to do to Chicago at Chicago Monday

864
00:39:16,719 --> 00:39:21,399
Speaker 2: Night football. And Nor actually, I think quit the next day.

865
00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:24,120
Speaker 2: That's right around the time that he quit. All right,

866
00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:28,600
Speaker 2: So make twenty eleven or twenty sixteen Christian Ponder twenty eleven, yeah,

867
00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:29,840
Speaker 2: nor of twenty sixteen, thank you.

868
00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:31,800
Speaker 1: But with Ponder.

869
00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:35,440
Speaker 2: So McNabb basically gets kicked off the team, you know,

870
00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:38,239
Speaker 2: because he didn't want to play anymore. Ponder comes in

871
00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:41,720
Speaker 2: as a rookie from Florida State middle is of the season,

872
00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:45,960
Speaker 2: say five to six into it, and he eventually, in

873
00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:49,879
Speaker 2: his first five starts, goes with five touchdowns, six interceptions.

874
00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:51,760
Speaker 1: He was sacked fourteen times.

875
00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:54,480
Speaker 2: So the point being here is you didn't have the

876
00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:59,120
Speaker 2: opportunity during your career to play in circumstances that are

877
00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:02,839
Speaker 2: taking place here year right now. New quarterback, somebody they

878
00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:06,200
Speaker 2: drafted high in the first round. Uh that that was

879
00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:10,680
Speaker 2: a circumstance where you did so. Yet, Adrian Peterson, you

880
00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:12,880
Speaker 2: know you had some you guys had some good players

881
00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:16,080
Speaker 2: on defense. Uh So, I'm not gonna compare or contrast

882
00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:19,080
Speaker 2: whether the twenty twenty five Vikings were better than the

883
00:40:19,120 --> 00:40:20,800
Speaker 2: twenty eleven Viking Vikings.

884
00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:21,520
Speaker 1: That's not the point.

885
00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:24,680
Speaker 2: The point is when you're playing defense and you know

886
00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:29,480
Speaker 2: that's what you're raising and what you see and it's wonky,

887
00:40:29,560 --> 00:40:31,960
Speaker 2: it's up and down, because that's how it is generally

888
00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:35,960
Speaker 2: for every quarterback who starts through the first five, ten,

889
00:40:36,080 --> 00:40:37,120
Speaker 2: maybe fifteen games.

890
00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:39,920
Speaker 6: What was it like? And defensively, how do you get

891
00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:41,920
Speaker 6: around it? Yeah, we should have had a therapist come

892
00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:43,799
Speaker 6: this morning. We're gonna we're gonna dig in that deep

893
00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:47,160
Speaker 6: on things. My goodness, we're talking off. I've just heard

894
00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:49,080
Speaker 6: so much of the same stuff during the course. Yeah,

895
00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:52,040
Speaker 6: I wanted to listen coming off at thirty for thirty

896
00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:54,000
Speaker 6: we're gonna have for the twenty ten season going into

897
00:40:54,040 --> 00:40:56,719
Speaker 6: twenty eleven, and we're just throwing one hoppers the entire

898
00:40:56,920 --> 00:40:59,200
Speaker 6: first part of last season with Donovan and he was

899
00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:03,600
Speaker 6: just completely chick and collecting checks and and that's fine.

900
00:41:03,640 --> 00:41:04,600
Speaker 1: We learned that we moved on.

901
00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:08,080
Speaker 6: I think when you get in that spot defensively, this

902
00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:10,239
Speaker 6: is when it comes down to playing complimentary football, and

903
00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:14,040
Speaker 6: sometimes that's just not a pretty thing. I always bring

904
00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:15,960
Speaker 6: up in these situations that you talk about is my

905
00:41:16,040 --> 00:41:18,920
Speaker 6: Iowahawkeyes is the perfect example of this of playing complimentary football,

906
00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:21,480
Speaker 6: of how your mentality around the idea of we understand

907
00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:24,279
Speaker 6: what we were defensive or offensively at that time. You're

908
00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:26,120
Speaker 6: not gonna throw somebody under the bus or go to

909
00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:28,359
Speaker 6: the media or say give anybody talking points, but you're

910
00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:30,320
Speaker 6: sure going to show up knowing that you have to

911
00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:32,000
Speaker 6: play really good football and if you're gonna win the

912
00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:35,080
Speaker 6: football game, defense has to maybe lead the charge and

913
00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:38,520
Speaker 6: special teams defense, offense. Obviously it's all complimentary, but knowing

914
00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:41,719
Speaker 6: what you're gonna get offensively. The hardest part I would

915
00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:44,240
Speaker 6: say was this was you would get off the field,

916
00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:47,719
Speaker 6: come off the sideline, and you go three and out

917
00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:50,120
Speaker 6: within like forty five seconds, and you're like, Okay, here

918
00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:52,320
Speaker 6: we go again. And it's one of those situations with

919
00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:55,319
Speaker 6: knowing when you're playing the other team's got a relatively good,

920
00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:58,360
Speaker 6: solid offense, it's going to be almost impossible to blank

921
00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:00,640
Speaker 6: them doesn't happen in the NFL almost ever, Now, how

922
00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:02,840
Speaker 6: can we keep them under? The number was what by average,

923
00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:05,640
Speaker 6: like fifteen points a game was like the tipping point

924
00:42:05,680 --> 00:42:08,359
Speaker 6: of winner loss. So we know we got to keep

925
00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:11,200
Speaker 6: somewhere between that twelve to eighteen to give ourselves a chance. Wow,

926
00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:13,320
Speaker 6: even with an offense that you know was maybe not

927
00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:15,759
Speaker 6: now again defensive, we had our own sets of trouble,

928
00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:17,080
Speaker 6: but we knew if we were gonna win, we had

929
00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:19,560
Speaker 6: to play excellent football. And that's just what you That's

930
00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:21,239
Speaker 6: the cars that you were dealt. I don't think you

931
00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:22,800
Speaker 6: blame or can plain your point fingers.

932
00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:24,359
Speaker 1: You just know that's the situation. Yeah.

933
00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:27,120
Speaker 4: I just remember going back to that Raiders Cowboys game

934
00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:28,960
Speaker 4: the other night. Was just awful to watch him and

935
00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:31,160
Speaker 4: Cowboys blew them out. But I remember early in the game,

936
00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:35,120
Speaker 4: Raiders created a turnover on the Cowboys and they didn't

937
00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:37,200
Speaker 4: get it back into the end zone, and there was

938
00:42:37,239 --> 00:42:39,440
Speaker 4: almost a moment where you could see defensively on the

939
00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:41,720
Speaker 4: bench like they almost kind of knew this is field

940
00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:42,560
Speaker 4: goal territory.

941
00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:43,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I remember.

942
00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:45,799
Speaker 4: Geno trying to hit I forget who it was back

943
00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:48,239
Speaker 4: of the end zone on third down, and you could

944
00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:51,200
Speaker 4: see the camera panda Max Crosby, He's like, oh, and

945
00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:54,360
Speaker 4: you just kind of grimaced his like he knew in

946
00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:56,960
Speaker 4: effect that if the defense did not find their way

947
00:42:57,000 --> 00:42:59,320
Speaker 4: into the end zone on that play, just sign it

948
00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:01,439
Speaker 4: up for a car field goal right there.

949
00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:04,160
Speaker 1: I just that that feels like that's grading over the

950
00:43:04,239 --> 00:43:05,279
Speaker 1: course of a long season.

951
00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:07,120
Speaker 6: Yeah, And I think when you you talk about that

952
00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:11,720
Speaker 6: situation specifically turnover short yardage, field goal or short yardage

953
00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:14,400
Speaker 6: going in they have to score defense, what's what are

954
00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:16,359
Speaker 6: you saying yourself and go in the field field goal?

955
00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:18,160
Speaker 6: Field goal only is a win for us one hundred percent.

956
00:43:18,280 --> 00:43:20,759
Speaker 6: Get off the field, you bring that energy, you fire

957
00:43:20,840 --> 00:43:22,480
Speaker 6: up around the idea we're gonna get a stop and

958
00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:24,120
Speaker 6: we're gonna show you and try to gain this because

959
00:43:24,120 --> 00:43:26,040
Speaker 6: that's a momentum flip the other way. Right now, all

960
00:43:26,080 --> 00:43:27,320
Speaker 6: of a sudden, you're on the eight yard line. You

961
00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:28,759
Speaker 6: didn't get that, you didn't get that interception in the

962
00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:30,160
Speaker 6: end zone, that fumble in the end zone.

963
00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:31,960
Speaker 1: Now we bow up and hold you to a field goal.

964
00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:33,920
Speaker 1: That's a dub. Now we get the ball back, let's go.

965
00:43:34,040 --> 00:43:34,920
Speaker 1: We survived that thing.

966
00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:37,879
Speaker 6: I just think it's a mentality when it comes down

967
00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:40,600
Speaker 6: to it, it's a mentality that I've liked out of

968
00:43:40,640 --> 00:43:44,120
Speaker 6: our defense these last few weeks, age of hey, we're

969
00:43:44,120 --> 00:43:46,200
Speaker 6: gonna give our team a chance to win, which is

970
00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:49,200
Speaker 6: exactly what happened in that football game last week. Same

971
00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:51,319
Speaker 6: thing against the Ravens is we kept giving them field goals,

972
00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:53,239
Speaker 6: and we kept giving them field goals. And this is

973
00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:56,000
Speaker 6: not blame the offense for these losses. It's all it

974
00:43:56,080 --> 00:43:59,319
Speaker 6: all works together. But the reality is the defense has

975
00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:02,200
Speaker 6: played well enough last two weeks, just on points given

976
00:44:02,239 --> 00:44:04,160
Speaker 6: up to win those football games. And we got to

977
00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:05,759
Speaker 6: get you know, Kim, we sustain to drive. Can we

978
00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:07,400
Speaker 6: give them a break? Kimm, we go score early to

979
00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:10,320
Speaker 6: get a lead. Actually, you know, we came back and

980
00:44:10,360 --> 00:44:12,600
Speaker 6: had a chance, but that was because of the defense.

981
00:44:12,800 --> 00:44:14,279
Speaker 3: Is there a part of it where you feel like,

982
00:44:14,360 --> 00:44:17,680
Speaker 3: over the course of a season, when you've given chance

983
00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:19,560
Speaker 3: after chance week after we.

984
00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:22,399
Speaker 6: Getting close, we're getting close about we're about two weeks

985
00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:24,279
Speaker 6: away from all of a sudden saying like we might

986
00:44:24,320 --> 00:44:26,160
Speaker 6: have some frustration in the locker room of like we

987
00:44:26,239 --> 00:44:28,120
Speaker 6: got to make sure we're starting to play better, you know,

988
00:44:28,200 --> 00:44:30,040
Speaker 6: And I think it's different, you know, you bring up

989
00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:32,080
Speaker 6: I bring up a college example, but the realities were

990
00:44:32,120 --> 00:44:35,760
Speaker 6: pros like there's no raw rob fire up New Rockney speech,

991
00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:38,080
Speaker 6: like you show up, play the game because you're a professional.

992
00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:40,919
Speaker 6: So like we got to get better. So like there's

993
00:44:40,960 --> 00:44:43,040
Speaker 6: no this idea of like, oh you know, we love

994
00:44:43,120 --> 00:44:45,480
Speaker 6: number nine, we want McCarthy to be excellent. We got

995
00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:47,920
Speaker 6: to improve, We got to take a step we gotta take.

996
00:44:47,960 --> 00:44:49,680
Speaker 6: We got to improve the things that we know are

997
00:44:49,719 --> 00:44:52,480
Speaker 6: glaring issues from week to week because that's what pros do.

998
00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:55,200
Speaker 6: And if you want to be this quarterback this football

999
00:44:55,200 --> 00:44:58,520
Speaker 6: team long long, like for a long time, if you

1000
00:44:58,560 --> 00:45:00,600
Speaker 6: don't show that improved in these next five six weeks,

1001
00:45:00,800 --> 00:45:02,080
Speaker 6: there's a chance you're not going to be.

1002
00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:04,640
Speaker 3: And I'm the thing for me real quick is like

1003
00:45:04,719 --> 00:45:08,360
Speaker 3: I just wonder, you're, like how much energy they're expending

1004
00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:11,680
Speaker 3: to keep giving chances and if over the course of

1005
00:45:11,719 --> 00:45:14,080
Speaker 3: the year it's like you get to week fourteen, it's

1006
00:45:14,120 --> 00:45:16,759
Speaker 3: like we've done so much to try to, you know,

1007
00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:18,800
Speaker 3: give every chance we had that we just don't have

1008
00:45:18,920 --> 00:45:21,960
Speaker 3: the juice anymore. Like I But but to your point earlier,

1009
00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:25,719
Speaker 3: maybe it's just being a professional, the professional aspect of it,

1010
00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:28,200
Speaker 3: where it's like, you know, you on your own.

1011
00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:30,680
Speaker 1: Like that's the person, it is, what it is. Yeah,

1012
00:45:30,719 --> 00:45:32,080
Speaker 1: you just deal with what you have going at you.

1013
00:45:32,239 --> 00:45:34,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, you spent your entire career playing for the Vikings

1014
00:45:34,920 --> 00:45:36,880
Speaker 4: and we're talking about nine and we're talking about the

1015
00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:40,480
Speaker 4: defense and just hanging on the mentality just in a vacuum.

1016
00:45:40,719 --> 00:45:43,400
Speaker 4: How sweet is a border battle victory? I mean just

1017
00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:46,840
Speaker 4: going just going to Lambeau and it's it's the historic

1018
00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:50,080
Speaker 4: venue that it is. We got Grandma parking cars for

1019
00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:53,000
Speaker 4: twenty five bucks in the Rambler, like fifty yards from

1020
00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:55,799
Speaker 4: the stadium and Crawls West and the whole thing. How

1021
00:45:55,840 --> 00:45:57,680
Speaker 4: good is it to walk in there? Maybe maybe you

1022
00:45:57,880 --> 00:46:01,640
Speaker 4: still play. They were still mooning people back in your Love,

1023
00:46:01,840 --> 00:46:03,360
Speaker 4: But is it they could just go stuff it in

1024
00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:05,799
Speaker 4: their freaking faces, Like that's what we have the chance

1025
00:46:05,880 --> 00:46:08,879
Speaker 4: to do. As negative as things are, Teams four and six,

1026
00:46:09,160 --> 00:46:11,480
Speaker 4: we can roll out of there and just beat on them.

1027
00:46:11,680 --> 00:46:13,520
Speaker 1: This was this was something I was actually gonna bring

1028
00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:14,279
Speaker 1: up earlier. You mentioned.

1029
00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:17,359
Speaker 6: It was this idea of like I'm gonna I'm gonna

1030
00:46:17,360 --> 00:46:19,920
Speaker 6: have a kid that comes in here from Michigan quarterback

1031
00:46:20,040 --> 00:46:22,720
Speaker 6: or name the draft pick, name the free agent who's

1032
00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:23,560
Speaker 6: never been a part.

1033
00:46:23,440 --> 00:46:24,080
Speaker 1: Of this rivalry.

1034
00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:26,600
Speaker 6: Right They're gonna go play a game and do their

1035
00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:29,000
Speaker 6: professional job, and they're gonna collect that check after two weeks,

1036
00:46:29,160 --> 00:46:31,919
Speaker 6: it's gonna come in. They don't care about this game

1037
00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:33,640
Speaker 6: like you guys care about this game. I'm telling you

1038
00:46:33,680 --> 00:46:35,880
Speaker 6: that much right now. It's just the way it is.

1039
00:46:36,360 --> 00:46:38,640
Speaker 6: Like you have your neighborhood rivalry with your buddy. Who

1040
00:46:38,640 --> 00:46:39,919
Speaker 6: are you gonna have a little better or a side

1041
00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:41,840
Speaker 6: better or some action whatever you got going on, Like

1042
00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:43,960
Speaker 6: that neighborhood banter is probably more than what they're talking

1043
00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:45,960
Speaker 6: about the locker room now, because I was in this

1044
00:46:46,080 --> 00:46:48,719
Speaker 6: thing for so long, it became very very real for

1045
00:46:48,800 --> 00:46:50,760
Speaker 6: me after a couple of years, like this really matters,

1046
00:46:51,320 --> 00:46:53,879
Speaker 6: and the scope of this game from a fan base,

1047
00:46:54,360 --> 00:46:55,520
Speaker 6: it does get pushed.

1048
00:46:55,239 --> 00:46:57,040
Speaker 1: Into the locker room. We all understand.

1049
00:46:57,719 --> 00:46:59,879
Speaker 6: That doesn't mean I'm gonna maybe change my mentality around

1050
00:46:59,880 --> 00:47:01,480
Speaker 6: you put more emphasis on it, because at the end

1051
00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:02,880
Speaker 6: of the day, you're a pro, like you gotta do

1052
00:47:02,960 --> 00:47:05,560
Speaker 6: this for every game. But of course, from a fan perspective,

1053
00:47:05,600 --> 00:47:08,640
Speaker 6: this one just means more. Now going to Lambeau historically

1054
00:47:08,840 --> 00:47:11,759
Speaker 6: historical venue fun to play in, but even more fun

1055
00:47:11,840 --> 00:47:15,200
Speaker 6: to win in and shut them up. And at the

1056
00:47:15,280 --> 00:47:17,200
Speaker 6: end of the game, fourth quarter, when it's all Vike's

1057
00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:20,080
Speaker 6: purple in there and they're walking to their their probably

1058
00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:21,440
Speaker 6: beat up mini vans.

1059
00:47:21,480 --> 00:47:24,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, puke right, Fleet Farm and Fleet Farm Entrance.

1060
00:47:24,560 --> 00:47:27,600
Speaker 6: Definitely drinking bush Heavy in their minivans on the way out,

1061
00:47:29,000 --> 00:47:30,840
Speaker 6: because you can still drink and drive, I think in Wisconsin.

1062
00:47:31,120 --> 00:47:33,000
Speaker 1: So it's one of those things that, Yeah, I mean,

1063
00:47:33,760 --> 00:47:34,640
Speaker 1: there's nothing better than that.

1064
00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:39,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, rapid fire, you get fifteen seconds for each response.

1065
00:47:39,520 --> 00:47:43,360
Speaker 1: Okay, nothing like a bush Heavy in a minivan? Was cigarette?

1066
00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:47,600
Speaker 1: Was Jermichael Finley a tough cover? Yeah? For a time.

1067
00:47:48,280 --> 00:47:51,880
Speaker 2: Did you ever run head first into Eddie Lacy? Alick

1068
00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:54,319
Speaker 2: loved him at Alabama when Alex was a child.

1069
00:47:54,480 --> 00:47:56,640
Speaker 6: Eddie Lacy's there's own scheme they had with Eddie Lacy

1070
00:47:56,719 --> 00:47:57,640
Speaker 6: was an absolute problem.

1071
00:47:57,920 --> 00:47:59,880
Speaker 1: But he like fizzled out so quickly.

1072
00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:03,359
Speaker 6: His his quad was as big as this table. Well

1073
00:48:03,400 --> 00:48:06,760
Speaker 6: that's he was on the quad. Look at his squad,

1074
00:48:07,320 --> 00:48:08,239
Speaker 6: Like compare that thing.

1075
00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:13,040
Speaker 2: Was the nine game at Lambeau your most memorable game,

1076
00:48:13,160 --> 00:48:16,200
Speaker 2: certainly at Lambeau, but one of your most memorable games

1077
00:48:16,239 --> 00:48:16,840
Speaker 2: of your career.

1078
00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:20,040
Speaker 6: Yeah, unbelievable game. Going back with Brett, that was it

1079
00:48:20,160 --> 00:48:22,400
Speaker 6: was fun on several levels. Exciting, I would say the

1080
00:48:22,520 --> 00:48:26,440
Speaker 6: win to secure the division there in twenty four, twenty fifteen,

1081
00:48:26,680 --> 00:48:29,080
Speaker 6: fifteen was probably above that.

1082
00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:30,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, playoff according to everybody.

1083
00:48:31,080 --> 00:48:34,879
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, Any anything happening with Gray Duck Vodka Great

1084
00:48:34,920 --> 00:48:36,640
Speaker 2: Duck Spirits today or this weekend?

1085
00:48:36,760 --> 00:48:38,960
Speaker 6: Well, you know Thanksgiving is coming up, yes, and every

1086
00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:41,360
Speaker 6: family loves to get together and gather around for some

1087
00:48:41,520 --> 00:48:43,480
Speaker 6: food and some drink, some libations.

1088
00:48:43,800 --> 00:48:44,719
Speaker 1: What better to go?

1089
00:48:44,880 --> 00:48:47,560
Speaker 6: Get some Gray Duck, get it in your house, bring

1090
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Speaker 6: us Seltzer and try something new. No, we have nice

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Speaker 6: stuff here in Minnesota. Not a hoodson, all right, you

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Speaker 6: could get a hoodie online, bring it to your you know,

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Speaker 6: let's not talk politics. That's just talk Gray Duck at

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Speaker 6: the Thanksgiving dinner table. All right, have a good holiday,

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Speaker 6: Love you all at peace for having me once to.

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Speaker 2: Love you, Bud see in a couple of weeks You've

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Speaker 2: got Hey Jack Greenway, Ladies and gentlemen, bod to radio

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Speaker 2: courtesy of Gray Duck Vodka and Gray Duck Spirits. We

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Speaker 2: are heading into the second hour of today's presentation. A

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Speaker 2: fantasy focus takes place. Around the corner after that and

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Speaker 2: in the crowd version of Vikes Bites. Then at eleven

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Speaker 2: o'clock the Sultan of Smug David sinnekon Packer Review, Packer Preview.

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Speaker 2: Oh Cinny's going to be here at eleven o'clock to

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Speaker 2: break down the border battle with nine to noon.

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Speaker 1: We'll be right back. Thanks for coming out.