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Speaker 1: Boston's News Radio Pard evening.

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Speaker 2: Everybody. The cold weather continues here in New England. It

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Speaker 2: was still a very chilli day and I hope wherever

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Speaker 2: you are you're nice and warm. My name is Dan Ray.

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Speaker 2: I am broadcasting remotely. Rob Brooks is back at the

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Speaker 2: the country. So Rob Brooks, thank you for what you do.

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Speaker 2: We have four guests lined up tonight in our first hour,

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Speaker 2: part of the program, beginning at nine o'clock. We'll talk

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Speaker 2: about starter homes. We had a guest on from the

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Speaker 2: Pirate Policy Institute and talking about starter homes housing affordability

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Speaker 2: in the Greater Boston area. And also we'll talk about

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Speaker 2: the suffering economy of customer service and boy, the economy

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Speaker 2: of customer service is indeed suffering. Anyone who has been

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Speaker 2: a customer that economy, they know exactly what I'm talking about.

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Speaker 2: But first let us start off with Robert Shibley. Robert

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Speaker 2: is Fire, special counsel for Campus Advocacy, Fires and organization,

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Speaker 2: the Foundation for Individual Rights and Expression, founded many years

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Speaker 2: ago by our great friend Harvey Silverglade in Cambridge. Robert Shibley,

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Speaker 2: Welcome to night Side. How are you, sir?

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Speaker 3: Hey, thanks very much for having me. It's good to

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Speaker 2: So the bad news is the twenty twenty five set

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Speaker 2: new records, a new record for attempts to silence student speech.

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Speaker 2: And I know that a long time ago was the

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Speaker 2: foundation of individual rights and in education it has now

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Speaker 2: changed to and expression. Your focus still is very much

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Speaker 3: Correct, Yeah, we still do all of our original mission,

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Speaker 2: Right, So we're looking at a new record for attempt

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Speaker 2: because for many, many years, students who expressed any point

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Speaker 2: Indiana Attorney General urged his constituents to pressure Indiana University

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Speaker 2: quote the world just got a little better today in

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Speaker 2: response to Charlie Kirk's murder. Let's talk about that one

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Speaker 2: fire is an absolutist and free speech. So it does

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Speaker 2: not surprise me that you are concerned about this, and

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Speaker 2: this is part of the focus of what you have.

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Speaker 2: Has your focus switched or simply the emphasis switched a

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, this year I think was we really saw

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Speaker 3: Because we started the year with the continued efforts for

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Speaker 2: So I get that, correct me If I'm wrong, you

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Speaker 3: Well, you know, I think one thing that is important

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Speaker 3: obviously most such comments are highly exaggerated. If every death

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Speaker 3: That doesn't mean it's time to use the power of

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Speaker 3: I think a lot of people, probably most people, find

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Speaker 3: certainly is. I mean, it's not likely to make you

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Speaker 2: All right, Robert Shibley, great explanation. If folks want to

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Speaker 2: to just get some more information, what's the best website?

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Speaker 3: Head to the Fire dot org TGFIRA dot org.

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Speaker 2: That's great. Keep it simple, keep it clean, keep it clear. Robert,

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Speaker 2: I really enjoyed the conversation. It's great to know that

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Speaker 2: you so much for your time. Thank you, good night.

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Speaker 2: But they are going to celebrate academic and athletic excellence,

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Speaker 2: in a very interesting way with a jersey giveaway on

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Speaker 2: January tenth. I'm looking forward to this conversation with coach

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Speaker 2: Carrie Moore right after the break here on night Side.

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Speaker 2: Delighted to welcome coach Carrie Moore, Harvard women's basketball coach,

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Speaker 2: to Nightside. Normally, coach at this time of night, you're

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Speaker 4: Yeah, thank you so much.

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Speaker 5: I appreciate you having me on this is this is

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Speaker 2: I was talking with a friend of mine, you were

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Speaker 2: your assistant athletic director, Joe Bradley, about you, and he's

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Speaker 2: a huge fan of what you have brought to the

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Speaker 2: Harvard women's basketball program. Uh. You you just had a win.

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Speaker 2: I believe over Arkansas, which was, yeah, a historic win.

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Speaker 5: First of all, Yeah, it was you know, historic win,

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Speaker 5: You know, it was a true road game. It was

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Speaker 2: Of the game. Now, you have a promotion coming up

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Speaker 2: on January tenth, I'm not sure who the opponent is

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Speaker 2: So the jersey's not going to say Harvard as they

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Speaker 5: Oh definitely.

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Speaker 2: Jump on that one. Let me tell you, I'm always

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Speaker 2: Your field anyway, coach more great talking with you. I

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Speaker 1: You're on Night Side with Dan Ray on WBZ, Boston's

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Speaker 2: Delighted. Welcome to Night's out here on WBZ, Patrick Arnsen, Patrick, welcome,

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Speaker 2: How are you, sir?

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Speaker 4: Oh, I'm great, Thank you so much for having me.

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Speaker 2: You're welcome. So you're a former airline pilot, commercial airline pilot.

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Speaker 2: And CEO of thrust Flight, a multilocation flight training organization

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Speaker 2: Where is thrust Flight located or does.

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Speaker 4: It We're located in We have multiple locations. We have

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Speaker 2: I see. Okay, and that is where aspiring pilots go

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Speaker 4: I was a commercial airline pilot for five years?

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Speaker 4: It's sixty five years old. So every airline has to

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Speaker 4: That's a hard rule. Yeah, so they can continue to

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Speaker 4: It is an FA rule, and there has been legislation

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Speaker 2: I think the Indianapolis coachs just bought a gout, brought

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Speaker 2: I take a little peek in the cockpit. I like

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Speaker 2: to see a few gray hairs up there. To be

437
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Speaker 2: honest with you, I hate you, you know, but I

438
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Speaker 2: mean there's something to be said for experience.

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Speaker 4: There, certainly is there, certainly is.

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Speaker 2: Well. Let me ask you, Patrick, if there are any

441
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Speaker 2: aspiring pilots out there who would like to get in trust,

442
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Speaker 2: in in in contact with you or with thrust Flight.

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Speaker 2: What's the best way they can do that. Maybe this

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Speaker 2: conversation has, you know, started a few folks about thinking

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Speaker 2: about maybe doing what you've done for a living all

446
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Speaker 2: your life.

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Speaker 4: Oh well, I tell you it's it's a wonderful career.

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Speaker 4: They can find us at trust slight dot com on

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Speaker 4: any of the social media platforms and YouTube.

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Speaker 2: Sounds great. Thanks very much for your for your time tonight.

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Speaker 2: I enjoyed the conversation. It's one. As they say, I'm

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Speaker 2: going to keep looking for those those gray hairs on

453
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Speaker 2: the pilots there, at least flying the planes that I'm on.

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Speaker 2: I don't want I don't want to look up there

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Speaker 2: and see see some fourteen year old said have your pilot.

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Speaker 4: That's great. Thanks, thank you for your.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for your time. Talk to you soon, really

458
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Speaker 2: get back we talk's spend a little bit of time

459
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Speaker 2: talking with Brian Thompson, one of our favorite ACI Weather meteorologists,

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Speaker 2: about the weather forecast for the balance of this week.

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Speaker 2: It's gonna get a little better, but it's gonna get

462
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Speaker 2: a little winter. And as we approach Christmas now and

463
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Speaker 2: we're in Honikah, people have to think about what their

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Speaker 2: schedule is. So we'll give you a good opportunity to

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Speaker 2: listen to Brian Thompson give us the rundown and what

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Speaker 2: we can expect at least into the weekend. We'll be bad.

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Speaker 2: That's a little further than probably going to push him.

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Speaker 2: But I think he'll. I think he'll he'll play along

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Speaker 2: with us. Coming back on night Side.

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Speaker 1: Night Side with Dan Ray, I'm telling you bes Boston's

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Speaker 1: news Radio.

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Speaker 2: Well, we've had a bomby first week of December. First

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Speaker 2: a couple of weeks of December with temperatures sometimes you know,

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Speaker 2: getting up into the mid eighties. It's been very comfortable

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Speaker 2: here in New England, not where this is Brian Thompson. Brian,

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Speaker 2: what's going on? This is the This the cold is

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Speaker 2: first half of December that I can remember in some time.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, and Dan, we've had so many warm Decembers in

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Speaker 6: recent years. It's just been a it's been a bit

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Speaker 6: of a shock to the system, not just the cold,

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Speaker 6: but how how long it has lasted. It's been a

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Speaker 6: very cold month so far. We're nearly eight degrees below

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Speaker 6: average for the month.

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Speaker 2: Eight degrees. That's an incredible number.

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Speaker 6: Especially since we're halfway through the month. That's not a

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Speaker 6: that's not a small number.

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Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean even if you get if you get

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Speaker 2: to the normal December by the end of the month,

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Speaker 2: would still be four degrees below normal. I assume today's

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Speaker 2: today's the sixteenth. I like to watch and I think

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Speaker 2: I mentioned to you before in the Globe and Sundays.

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Speaker 2: It tell us, it tells us where our temperature has

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Speaker 2: been on an average throughout the year. And we're getting

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Speaker 2: pretty close to being right where the average is supposed

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Speaker 2: to be, or maybe even a little below that. I

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Speaker 2: don't know if we can, if we can accomplish that

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Speaker 2: by the of December and not, but we're gonna get

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Speaker 2: a little relief in the next few days, DESI understands,

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Speaker 2: but not without some other complications.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, and that is that's fairly typical this time where

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Speaker 6: we're talking about temperatures as warm as we're talking here,

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Speaker 6: and we're talking about temperatures getting into the fifties Thursday

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Speaker 6: night into Friday. Usually that's accompanied by a storm that's

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Speaker 6: moving up to our north and west or on the

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Speaker 6: warmer side of it, and that usually does bring some rain.

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Speaker 6: That's gonna be the case here, and not say it

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Speaker 6: can't ever get warm when it's dry this time of year,

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Speaker 6: but it's more likely that there's a storm cutting up

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Speaker 6: to our west, we get a huge flow of warm

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Speaker 6: air out of the south and west, and that's exactly

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Speaker 6: what's going to happen here. So we'll see the rain

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Speaker 6: moving looks like very late Thursday nights and then probably

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Speaker 6: rain through a good chunk of Friday through at least

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Speaker 6: the early afternoon hours. And the wind is going to

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Speaker 6: be very gusty with the storm system as well. It's

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Speaker 6: a pretty powerful storm. We're talking about highs probably into

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Speaker 6: the mid to upper fifties on Friday, So this is

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Speaker 6: going to be a big warm up that's gonna put

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Speaker 6: a dent into that departure from average we're at right now.

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Speaker 2: Sure, but that also is going to mean that the

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Speaker 2: snow cover, which I know, I live right outside of Boston.

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Speaker 2: If I have snow cover, there's probably a lot of

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Speaker 2: other places that have snow cover. But with temperatures in

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Speaker 2: the fifties and a driving rainstorm, we're going to be

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Speaker 2: back to bare ground by by the end of the weekend.

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Speaker 6: So yeah, I think that's a fair assumption. I would

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Speaker 6: say probably by midday Friday, a lot of that snow

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Speaker 6: is going to be gone because when the kind of

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Speaker 6: the perfect ingredients to melt snow are a moist atmosphere

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Speaker 6: with a lot of moisture, which we'll have this time around,

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Speaker 6: and a southwesterly wind, which we'll have this time around

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Speaker 6: as well. In tempera is gonna be well above freezing

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Speaker 6: of course, into the fifties, so that snow is gonna

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Speaker 6: be melting very quickly.

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Speaker 2: So that's going to mean that the likelihood of a

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Speaker 2: white Christmas here in southern New England is probably the

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Speaker 2: odds are getting a little long on.

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Speaker 6: That, yet not great, I will say, because as we

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Speaker 6: as we look ahead deeper into the forecast, as you

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Speaker 6: get into the weekend, there really aren't too many opportunities

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Speaker 6: for precipitation. Temperature is going to be kind of bouncing

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Speaker 6: back and forth, but as we get into next week,

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Speaker 6: closer to Christmas, the flow is going to be very

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Speaker 6: west to east across the country, a lot of Pacific

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Speaker 6: air coming eastward, which really prevents the cold air from

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Speaker 6: settling in. I'm not saying it's going to be warm,

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Speaker 6: but we're talking about highs in the thirties and forties,

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Speaker 6: and it just doesn't look like there's going to be

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Speaker 6: many opportunities for snow next week. It's not completely out

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Speaker 6: of the question that if it's just cold enough, when

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Speaker 6: we get one of these little systems to move along

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Speaker 6: this fast flow, that we could pick up a little

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Speaker 6: bit of snow, but at this point I would say

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Speaker 6: that's on the unlikely side. Now you're going to hear

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Speaker 6: a lot about how warm it's going to be on

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Speaker 6: Christmas across a lot of the country. We're going to

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Speaker 6: be kind of on the.

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Speaker 2: Edge of that.

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Speaker 6: I don't know if we'll ever get into that really

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Speaker 6: warm air that a lot of the Midwest and the

562
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Speaker 6: planes are going to get into where we could be

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Speaker 6: talking about temperatures that are way above average. But again

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Speaker 6: with the air mass originating kind of from the Pacific

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Speaker 6: instead of Canada, that kind of put keeps a lid

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Speaker 6: on how cold it can get around here.

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Speaker 2: Now. I know that our temperatures have been cold, but

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Speaker 2: the problem part of the country really has been the Midwest,

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Speaker 2: the plains and the upper Plains. I have friends out

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Speaker 2: in uh out in Kansas and places like that, and uh,

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Speaker 2: they've had some really tough weather, uh and and and

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Speaker 2: and they're gonna they're gonna get another batch of of

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Speaker 2: cold weather. It sounds to me like, what is our

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Speaker 2: long range forecast? And I know I always ask you this,

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Speaker 2: but I never get the I never missed the opportunity,

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Speaker 2: uh to get a sense of what's it look like

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Speaker 2: in you know, the balance of the month into January,

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Speaker 2: maybe even a little peak into the rest of the winter.

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Speaker 2: What are we thinking here?

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Speaker 3: Is this?

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Speaker 2: Is this this cold snap we've had, Is that uh

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Speaker 2: a a canary in the coal mine at all? Or

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Speaker 2: is this something that is just transitory? And and maybe

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Speaker 2: we'll have a warmer I know, Oh, we always had

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Speaker 2: the January thaw I wait for that about January twentieth,

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Speaker 2: but as an old New Englander, But where do you

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Speaker 2: think we're going to be for the balance of the

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Speaker 2: winter in terms of cold, you know, temperatures, but also snowfall.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, well, our thinking is as we get into January again,

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Speaker 6: there's going to be a it looks like through a

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Speaker 6: lot of the rest of December. I don't see any

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Speaker 6: at least through the end of next weekend, and next

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Speaker 6: weekend doesn't look like we have an extended cold And

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Speaker 6: our overall thinking has been as we get into January

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Speaker 6: that it will probably end up closer to average, not

596
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Speaker 6: quite as cold as it has been this month, at

597
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Speaker 6: least compared to average. Course, January overall is a colder month.

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Speaker 6: And then our thinking has been that as we get

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Speaker 6: into February, there's a potential for some more cold shots

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Speaker 6: to happen like we've seen this month, So we'll see

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Speaker 6: if that comes to fruition. Of course, when you can

602
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Speaker 6: get some cold shots into February, that's where you can

603
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Speaker 6: get into some really cold air. That's where you can

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Speaker 6: get into the the below zero kind of territory. And

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Speaker 6: even in December, we've seen that across the Midwest. You're

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Speaker 6: talking about the Midwest, places like Chicago and Minneapolis running

607
00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:07,360
Speaker 6: nearly ten degrees below average this month, so there's been

608
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Speaker 6: a lot of cold around. Again, we may see that

609
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Speaker 6: relax a little bit next month, and the potential for

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Speaker 6: some cold shots into February doesn't mean it's going to

611
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Speaker 6: be cold all month, but again there's certainly going to

612
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Speaker 6: be opportunities for the cold there to come southward as

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Speaker 6: the winter goes on.

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Speaker 2: The Other thing, Brian, which I had to mention, and

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Speaker 2: that is that I read somewhere today that the sunset

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Speaker 2: has now I think today for the first time is

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Speaker 2: a minute, how should I put this?

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Speaker 6: That the sun the sunset starts getting later. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 6: so that actually happened. That actually happens a little before

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Speaker 6: the solstice. And on the flip side, I believe it's

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Speaker 6: the sun rise continues to get a little later after

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Speaker 6: the solstice, so it doesn't just completely flip on Sunday morning,

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Speaker 6: which is the solstice.

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Speaker 2: So that means that but today instead of setting out

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Speaker 2: whatever it was, instead of setting in four thirteen, it's

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Speaker 2: setting in full fourteen. I'm just picking those numbers out

627
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Speaker 2: of my head. So you could really say Hey, we

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00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:16,520
Speaker 2: had another minute of sunshine this afternoon. Doesn't it feel

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Speaker 2: like winter is almost beaten? Winter? Not quite, but psychologically

630
00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:23,440
Speaker 2: we're on the We're now in the right direction, I

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Speaker 2: guess yeah.

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Speaker 6: Because we're at the point of now that we're almost

633
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Speaker 6: at the solstice, we're not really losing much daylight anymore. Anyway,

634
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Speaker 6: that happens at the fastest rate in the fall months

635
00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:36,080
Speaker 6: when we're kind of halfway in between. But yeah, we

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Speaker 6: as we head into the last few days or December

637
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Speaker 6: and January, then that's when it starts to accelerate and

638
00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:43,440
Speaker 6: we start to see more daylight.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there will be a time sometime in late January

640
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Speaker 2: when each of us will say, wow, these days are

641
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Speaker 2: getting a little longer, and they'll still be just as cold,

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00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:59,120
Speaker 2: but it'll be kind of the first sign that maybe

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Speaker 2: we will get in the spring and another summer if

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00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:06,000
Speaker 2: we wait, if we stick around, there's hope springs eternal,

645
00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:06,680
Speaker 2: that's for sure.

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00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:07,839
Speaker 4: Yeah. That's once.

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Speaker 6: Once the sun rise, once it starts being bright around

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Speaker 6: five o'clock, it is very noticeable.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it's like, wow, we're heading in the right direction.

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Speaker 2: Brian Thompson, thank you so much. As always, always enjoy

651
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Speaker 2: talking with you. Always make weather fun and and enjoyable

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Speaker 2: and informative. So thank you so much.

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Speaker 4: It's good to be with it. Dan.

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Speaker 2: Talk soon, okay, Mary Christmas. If I don't get a

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Speaker 2: chance to chat with it between now and then, all right,

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Speaker 2: So we're wrapped up here in the eight o'clock hour.

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Speaker 2: When we come back, we're going to talk about housing affordability.

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Speaker 2: I had a conversation with Andrew mccoolah. He's with the

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Speaker 2: Pioneer Institute for Public Policy Research and chair of the

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Speaker 2: legalized starter homes here in Massachusetts. They have gathered sign

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Speaker 2: issues to get that on the ballot. First of all,

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Speaker 2: we will explain what starter homes are, and then we'll

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Speaker 2: probably have a conversation of whether it's a good idea

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Speaker 2: or aboud idea. I know that Andrew feels it's a

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Speaker 2: great idea, and many young people who are trying to

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Speaker 2: get into a home field it's a great idea. But

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Speaker 2: I have some questions. And the questions really revolve around

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Speaker 2: whether or not localities have the right to zone their

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Speaker 2: communities so that there are minimum housing standards. There are

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Speaker 2: some implications for that when those minimum standards are taken

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Speaker 2: away more kids in school, tax rate goes up, all

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Speaker 2: of that. Will talk with Andrew mccoola coming up, and

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Speaker 2: I hope that you folks are willing to join the

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Speaker 2: conversation and ask questions, whatever your perspective here on Nightside,

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Speaker 2: right after the nine