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Speaker 2: to eighteen loss to the Cleveland Browns in the regular
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Speaker 2: Let's go and faux rock. The Bengals lose twenty to eighteen.
Speaker 2: That's two points. Yes, they give up two defensive touchdowns, yes.
Speaker 2: Evan McPherson misses two extra point ticks.
Speaker 3: Yes.
Speaker 2: And what hurts is the most that two rookies quarterbacks
Speaker 2: should Durre Sanders and place kicker Andre Smitt. And of
Speaker 2: course the veteran Miles Garrett helps beat the Bengals today. Man,
Speaker 2: I'm upset, you.
Speaker 4: Know, It's funny how you say this. I'm like, I
Speaker 4: hear all these. You know, we miss two field goals,
Speaker 4: we give up two touchdowns on offense, and then we
Speaker 4: lose by two. We should have played the numbers to
Speaker 4: two because we might win. The team didn't, but it
Speaker 4: was ugly.
Speaker 2: It was and Rock instead of a sweep, the Bengals
Speaker 2: have to settle for a split. Yeah, but there is
Speaker 2: a silver lining that all the folks out there want
Speaker 2: to know about. They've been rooting for it. The updated
Speaker 2: draft order has the Bengals selecting ninth with a six
Speaker 2: and eleven record instead of eleventh. Yes or lower.
Speaker 4: Yes, So that's the silver liner.
Speaker 2: But the Bengals defense Rock allowed only two field goals
Speaker 2: today the entire game. The defense was strong for fifty
Speaker 2: eight minutes and thirty one seconds, but it yielded a
Speaker 2: ten play forty yard drive the final one twenty nine
Speaker 2: after the Bengals scored and went ahead, and kicker Andre
Speaker 2: smit the goat Week one when he missed an extra
Speaker 2: point and a field goal, crushed the forty nine yard
Speaker 2: field goal at the gun for the walk off win.
Speaker 4: Just think about this. We talk about this football team
Speaker 4: and how the defense don't make the plays, the offense
Speaker 4: scores forty points and we wind up losing to forty. Today,
Speaker 4: the defense played their butts off and then we gave
Speaker 4: up fourteen twelve points in a sense, or kicked the
Speaker 4: field goal fourteen points on the offensive side of the ball.
Speaker 4: So once again, when they are working on all cylinders,
Speaker 4: that means offense, defensive, special teams are working together in sink,
Speaker 4: you're gonna win football games. And today offense defense, yes, offense,
Speaker 4: no special teams know, and guess what happens, we lose
Speaker 4: the game.
Speaker 2: Jim Schwartz, the defensive coordinator at the Cleveland Browns, he's due.
Speaker 4: I think you'll agree with me.
Speaker 2: Rock. He belongs as a head football coach in the
Speaker 2: National Football League. Once upon a time, he was with
Speaker 2: the Detroit Lions for five years.
Speaker 4: Yes, but he is.
Speaker 2: One of the best defensive coordinators in all of the
Speaker 2: foot all of football. And he's got Zach Taylor's number,
Speaker 2: Yes he does. He's got the Bengals number. Even though
Speaker 2: the Bengals one opening week man it was ugly low
Speaker 2: scoring and if Andre Schmid had kicked a field goal,
Speaker 2: the Browns would have won Week one.
Speaker 4: The Bengals could have got swept by the Browns. They
Speaker 4: probably they should have. The first game they should have lost, yes,
Speaker 4: but they didn't because of the missfield goals. Today's game,
Speaker 4: if the offense would do what they've been doing for
Speaker 4: the last couple of weeks, they could have ran Cleveland
Speaker 4: right out of Cincinnati.
Speaker 2: We're on the the Bengals are on the door staff
Speaker 2: to take a two touchdown lead, but a tipped pass
Speaker 2: and then a ninety seven yard interception return picked six
Speaker 2: started the ball rolling. All of a sudden, the Browns
Speaker 2: are up seven to six, and then before you could
Speaker 2: go to the refrigerator from your living room.
Speaker 4: It's fourteen to six. Another of fumbles. He's done that
Speaker 4: twice this year. Man sold a game. This game rock.
Speaker 2: The Bengals have their big three on the field, Joe Burrow,
Speaker 2: Jamar Chase t Higgins and ed Chase Brown did the mix.
Speaker 2: They shouldn't lose to the Browns.
Speaker 4: No, they should with those studs on the field. And
Speaker 4: the Browns offense is really brutal. They're bad. They're not
Speaker 4: that good at all. And we offensively, we let the
Speaker 4: offensive team of the Cleveland Browns hang around for them
Speaker 4: to get what they did at the end of the game.
Speaker 4: We should have blown the Cleveland Browns right out of
Speaker 4: that stadium and none of that stuff that happened at
Speaker 4: the end should have ever happened. I want to read
Speaker 4: you rock.
Speaker 2: The stats at halftime, ugly, Bengals are trailing fourteen to twelve.
Speaker 2: The Bengals lead in first downs fourteen to two.
Speaker 4: Wow.
Speaker 2: They lead in the number of plays thirty eight to eighteen.
Speaker 4: They lead in total.
Speaker 2: Yards to thirty one forty wow yards per play. Bengals
Speaker 2: lead six point one to two point two, passing yards
Speaker 2: one twenty seven to twenty six, and rushing yards one
Speaker 2: oh four to fourteen. Time of possession twenty one minutes
Speaker 2: thirty one seconds to the Browns eight minutes and twenty
Speaker 2: nine seconds. And what's happening.
Speaker 4: It just goes Bengals are traveling. It just goes to
Speaker 4: show chick, stats don't mean nothing. Stats don't mean nothing.
Speaker 4: Is the number of the points that are on that board.
Speaker 4: And that's why this is an embarrassing loss, because you
Speaker 4: dominated every phase of the game outside of turnovers. You
Speaker 4: should have won this football game hands down.
Speaker 2: And even though this rivalry, this Battle of Ohio, that
Speaker 2: was a split this year, even though both teams.
Speaker 4: Have losing records. Yes, it was a good one.
Speaker 2: Brown's five and twelve Bengals six and eleven. It still matters.
Speaker 2: It does to the Browns family. It does man and
Speaker 2: to Paul Brown he's in his grave spin it.
Speaker 4: Let me tell you when we played Cleveland many many
Speaker 4: years ago, when Paul Brown was there, he used to
Speaker 4: tell us, you need to sleep in the basement, you
Speaker 4: need to stay away from your family because it's Brown's
Speaker 4: week or it's Steeler week. Yes, and let me tell
Speaker 4: you he didn't care about nothing.
Speaker 2: He didn't.
Speaker 4: He wouldn't even let reporters come into the facility at
Speaker 4: spending Spennyfield. There you go, Spennyfield. He wouldn't let reporters
Speaker 4: come in and talk to us until we finished practice
Speaker 4: at three o'clock in the afternoon. Wow, because it wasn't
Speaker 4: about nothing but beating the Cleveland Browns.
Speaker 2: And you know what.
Speaker 4: Today, You know, I don't know if I can't say
Speaker 4: Cleveland beat the team Cincinnati Bengals today, I think that
Speaker 4: since they Bengals beat themselves today.
Speaker 2: Before we go out to the phones and take our
Speaker 2: first break, I want to lay this on you faux rock.
Speaker 2: David Foulcher, all Pro strong safety, the biggest strong safety
Speaker 2: in the league at the time, six foot.
Speaker 4: Three, thirty eight and forty pounds. There you go.
Speaker 2: They don't make them like that no more. Jick on
Speaker 2: pregame Sports Talk Today Live from the Holy Grail with
Speaker 2: Ken Brew, Tony Pike, and Moeger, the paramount sports handicapper,
Speaker 2: came on yes and predicted let us to believe, yes,
Speaker 2: that today's game is Joe Burrow's last game is a
Speaker 2: Cincinnati Bengal.
Speaker 4: Wow.
Speaker 2: We will address this after the break, Yes, and we
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Speaker 2: He's David Folcher. This is Chick Ludwig. You're listening to
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Speaker 2: This is Chick Ludwig. And before we go out to
Speaker 2: the phones rock, what do you think of that prediction
Speaker 2: by the handicapper from Paramount sports Man, which today's last
Speaker 2: game Joe Burrows in a Bengals uniform.
Speaker 4: I just hope he's wrong. Me too, you know, talking
Speaker 4: to Jimmy Burrow, Joe is just upset like anybody else's
Speaker 4: upset because they're not winning. He just wants to win.
Speaker 4: And you know, the last two to three weeks he's
Speaker 4: been playing pretty well, come back from an injury. But
Speaker 4: for him to leave until I see it, I don't
Speaker 4: believe it. I don't believe it. And I hope that
Speaker 4: something happens dramatically during this offseason where things will get
Speaker 4: better for him and this football team. We talked about
Speaker 4: it a little bit on the out before we got
Speaker 4: on the air, about what I would do if I
Speaker 4: was the Bengals when they come to draft. And I'll
Speaker 4: talk about that as we go on. But yes, this
Speaker 4: is heartbreaking to hear that, and hopefully it's not true.
Speaker 2: The whole thrust today, when the game ends, it's not
Speaker 2: dissecting this game. It's looking forward. Yes, it's looking this
Speaker 2: is the last game of the season.
Speaker 4: Your team is six and eleven.
Speaker 2: Yeah, what can you do to improve going into next
Speaker 2: year to make sure this doesn't happen for a fourth
Speaker 2: straight year, three straight years without the playoffs. Joe Burrow's upset.
Speaker 2: The whole organization should be and they've got to get
Speaker 2: this thing fixed. And we heard Joe after the game say, hey,
Speaker 2: we're not where we want to be. We're not where
Speaker 2: we expect to be. And things got to get fixed
Speaker 2: and things got to improve.
Speaker 4: And those are politically correct answers and things that he says,
Speaker 4: because nobody wants to be six and ten, six and eleven,
Speaker 4: five and twelve sitting at home watching everybody else play.
Speaker 4: When you've got the offensive firepower that the Cincinnati Bengals have,
Speaker 4: they should be in the playoffs every year, whether they
Speaker 4: get to the super Bowl or not. With that offense,
Speaker 4: they should be playing for championships every year. And here
Speaker 4: we are again, three years out and no playoffs.
Speaker 2: Fourteen of the thirty two teams are in the playoffs
Speaker 2: in the Bengals aren't one of them.
Speaker 4: No's just too much talent on offense, too many good
Speaker 4: things that the city deserves too many good things that
Speaker 4: this football team deserves and for so long that we
Speaker 4: are dying. We are thirsty for Super Bowl.
Speaker 2: Let's go out to the phones, Pat and Redding, are
Speaker 2: you there? Yes, I am Pat.
Speaker 5: I want to talk about the reasons that we lost
Speaker 5: this game. First, the extra point is lost, then when
Speaker 5: we scored again, we refuse to go for two, and
Speaker 5: then he missed extra point anyway.
Speaker 2: Yeaheah, Well I applaud, I applaud that decision because you
Speaker 2: do not go for two unless you have to, so
Speaker 2: pull within one plenty of time left.
Speaker 4: I don't go for two there. Yeah, I wouldn't go
Speaker 4: for two either, but you still got to make the kick.
Speaker 4: You got to make the kick.
Speaker 5: But we but yeah, you know we can get away
Speaker 5: with that stuff when we're playing Miami or Arizona.
Speaker 6: But we know it's going to be a close game.
Speaker 5: So I don't know.
Speaker 3: Pick six.
Speaker 5: Does anybody know what the number of Joe's interceptions are
Speaker 5: related to the number of pick six he.
Speaker 4: Has this year?
Speaker 2: And I think this seventh the seventh career picked six.
Speaker 4: Of his career.
Speaker 5: Yeah, seventh, and five of them were this year or what?
Speaker 4: No, no, he's got I think he's only half. I
Speaker 4: think he's got two of three this year, two or
Speaker 4: three this year, and he's got pick six.
Speaker 2: All right.
Speaker 5: And then the fumble that was run back. How many
Speaker 5: times have we fumbled the ball and then they pick
Speaker 5: it up and run it back?
Speaker 3: Yes?
Speaker 7: That amazing?
Speaker 2: Hey, nice knowing you, Noah, thank you for your contribution
Speaker 2: this year.
Speaker 4: See you later, pink slip.
Speaker 2: Wish you well, let the door hit you in the
Speaker 2: butt on the way out. I wish I wish you wild.
Speaker 4: Noah, you fumbled.
Speaker 2: You fumbled twice this year at critical times. And another
Speaker 2: false start, which is our the Bengals m on offense.
Speaker 8: False start A.
Speaker 5: Cool Then what did almost every Bengal fan say when
Speaker 5: we scored our fine?
Speaker 3: No touchdown?
Speaker 4: Too much time?
Speaker 5: Why didn't we run the ball and take some time.
Speaker 9: Off the clock?
Speaker 2: Now?
Speaker 6: I know they had.
Speaker 5: Time outs left, but made some use there, don't I
Speaker 5: don't get that?
Speaker 4: You know you know what, Pat, Pat I I kind
Speaker 4: of agree with you on this As far as clock management.
Speaker 4: We talked about that throughout the years that Zach Taylor's
Speaker 4: been here. But and you were in a sense of
Speaker 4: urgency to score, you had to put the ball in
Speaker 4: the end zone, hoping that your defense and the defense
Speaker 4: was playing well all all weekend and I'm sorry all games,
Speaker 4: but yet they're giving them too much time. Sometimes you
Speaker 4: you have to you have to bite the bullet you
Speaker 4: want to score to win the game, and then force
Speaker 4: them to come and beat you. And that's what they did.
Speaker 4: They came back and they beat us.
Speaker 5: But and I knew I knew that was going to
Speaker 5: happen too, because here's the story with our defense. Even
Speaker 5: if they probably said in the postgame show, oh, but
Speaker 5: the defense has played so well. No, they played so
Speaker 5: well until it really mattered.
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, Yeah, Well, gods, they don't play well. And
Speaker 2: they let a rookie Insadure Sanders, uh, you know, continue
Speaker 2: to launch his career like they did with Caleb Williams
Speaker 2: in the second year earlier this year.
Speaker 4: So if it's a journeyman.
Speaker 2: Quarterback, if it's a rookie, the Bengals are launching their career. Man,
Speaker 2: I'm getting.
Speaker 4: Sick of that.
Speaker 5: Yes, And then ability inability to make two point conversions
Speaker 5: cost us last year against Baltimore taught this this this
Speaker 5: game because if they would have have done the field goal,
Speaker 5: it would have just been a tie and we could
Speaker 5: have taken it to overtime.
Speaker 4: It's very hard to it's two point conversions are very
Speaker 4: hard to doe. Yes, I mean, you know, you practice,
Speaker 4: you practice. I don't know if you've practiced two point conversions.
Speaker 4: You practice short yardage plays. But to have a two
Speaker 4: point conversion, I like to look at the record of
Speaker 4: how many successful two point conversions have been made on
Speaker 4: the ones that they have attempted to make. I think
Speaker 4: it's a very low percentages. All right, Pat, thank you, Pat?
Speaker 10: Pat?
Speaker 4: All right? Do we have Bryce and Anderson?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 5: Yes, you do?
Speaker 4: Hi? Bryce?
Speaker 11: Uh Hi?
Speaker 5: I mean the Bengals just dominated almost every stat line
Speaker 5: in this game, but they came up short, and the
Speaker 5: biggest stat of them.
Speaker 12: Always to turnover battle.
Speaker 2: You're right, Is there anything more meaningless than time of possession?
Speaker 4: Yeah? You do want it?
Speaker 2: You want to dominate that at the Bengals did.
Speaker 4: At the end of the game. Tick, when the lights go,
Speaker 4: the thing goes zero zero zero. Yes, it's who won
Speaker 4: the game, that's it. And you could win the game
Speaker 4: with less yardage than anybody else. It's just at the
Speaker 4: time of this game, what really mattered was that last
Speaker 4: possession that Cleveland had. Could the defense come up and
Speaker 4: make a play to send him home? And we could
Speaker 4: not make a play. That's it.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 5: And if joebers three losses this season, he has thrown
Speaker 5: a pick six in every single loss.
Speaker 2: And he finished five five and three in his eight games.
Speaker 2: Five and three is his record in eight games. And yeah,
Speaker 2: you're right, Bryce, always good hearing from you.
Speaker 6: Man, Thank you.
Speaker 5: You have a great record of the night.
Speaker 2: Thank you do the same, yes, sir. And do we
Speaker 2: have Tim and Columbus where I went to school with
Speaker 2: fifty thousand of my closest friends. Okay, Tim, Hey, feel
Speaker 2: free to call back. Tim?
Speaker 4: And Hey.
Speaker 2: The numbers the dial five one three, seven four nine,
Speaker 2: seven thousand one, eight hundred, the Big when I'm changing
Speaker 2: things up here a little bit today. I've got my soda, soda,
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Speaker 4: All we need is you at.
Speaker 2: Five P one three seven four nine, seven thousand and one,
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Speaker 2: you there?
Speaker 3: Yes, sir?
Speaker 10: How are you doing?
Speaker 4: We're good man?
Speaker 2: How are you?
Speaker 4: I'm doing all right outside of the loss today, But
Speaker 4: how are you doing well?
Speaker 3: Well?
Speaker 13: Me and my wife was actually at the game that
Speaker 13: they experienced that so wonderful.
Speaker 4: What was it like?
Speaker 2: What was it like mingling with all those folks from
Speaker 2: up in northeast Ohio?
Speaker 13: I want too bad from where he was sitting today.
Speaker 13: But you know, with all the mistakes that the bank,
Speaker 13: you know, we can go on with the Bengals. I
Speaker 13: guess what gets me, and not just this game, but
Speaker 13: we have seen it multiple times this season. Season's past
Speaker 13: is again that time of possession, as in, they had
Speaker 13: the opportunity and the offense.
Speaker 6: To go down and win a game winning drive, in
Speaker 6: which they did. But what kills me is they.
Speaker 13: Always lead time on the clock for the team.
Speaker 2: To go down and lose at the very end.
Speaker 13: With no time to come back and try it.
Speaker 4: Except when t went down.
Speaker 2: We said against Pittsburgh, team went down on the ground,
Speaker 2: and yeah we went around, yeah close to.
Speaker 13: This season of demonstrating that, you know, yeah, I mean,
Speaker 13: but other than that game, I mean, how many times
Speaker 13: have they lost a game by giving the pupposing team
Speaker 13: too much time on the clock?
Speaker 4: You know, And I think I said it earlier. The
Speaker 4: well I said I said it earlier. You know, you
Speaker 4: you're you're in a sense of urgency because you want
Speaker 4: to go, you want to score the touchdown, but you
Speaker 4: don't want to leave a lot of time on the clock.
Speaker 2: And I don't know, I don't know.
Speaker 4: The answer to that, because if you if you slow
Speaker 4: down and don't don't don't score the touchdown because you're
Speaker 4: trying to run the time off the clock and you
Speaker 4: don't score, then we're going to say, Wow, they didn't
Speaker 4: go down there and do what they're supposed to do.
Speaker 4: Your job on offenses, put the ball.
Speaker 2: In the end zone.
Speaker 4: Your job on defenses and stop the other people from
Speaker 4: putting the ball ends on and we just can't do
Speaker 4: it all the time. And with that, you've got to
Speaker 4: take a break. We've prechinked abut on top of the
Speaker 4: six o'clock hour. He's David Folter. This is Chick Ludwig.
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Speaker 2: High School. Once again faux Rock David Folter, and we're
Speaker 2: breaking down the Bengals twenty to eighteen loss to the
Speaker 2: Cleveland Browns like a wrecking ball and rock. While before
Speaker 2: we go back out to the phones, let's review the
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Speaker 2: global transportation provider. Well, how about the second drive for
Speaker 2: the Cincinnati Bengals.
Speaker 4: It finished off.
Speaker 2: A after a turnover after the Bengals got the sack
Speaker 2: fumble and the turnover. There four plays, twenty nine yards,
Speaker 2: finished off by a four yard touchdown pass from Joe
Speaker 2: Burrow to Chase Brown. But it was set up by
Speaker 2: a twenty one yard pass to T Higgins. Yes, so
Speaker 2: to me, that combination there is the delivery of the game.
Speaker 4: T Higgins, you know something has happened to him. I
Speaker 4: think he's gotten better. I think he's starting to take
Speaker 4: care of his body a little bit better, and he's
Speaker 4: playing every game. I was worried when he got the
Speaker 4: new contract that the year before that, I think he
Speaker 4: played nine games or ten games, and he was always hurt.
Speaker 4: He has stepped up now he's had some concussions or
Speaker 4: some concussion protocol all that. I didn't think that he
Speaker 4: should have been playing because in one game he went
Speaker 4: into blue ten I think twice, two or three times,
Speaker 4: and they still let him play. So they knew what
Speaker 4: they were doing, but let me tell you something about
Speaker 4: T Man. You know, I hear Dan horror when he
Speaker 4: talks sometime on a grown man. Yes, full grown man,
Speaker 4: full grown man.
Speaker 2: That dude is.
Speaker 4: He's six five, could be six to six, and he
Speaker 4: can jump on top of the basketball rim. So when
Speaker 4: Joe Burrow throws that ball to T Higgins, there's a
Speaker 4: good possibility that he's gonna go up and get that ball.
Speaker 4: His reach is so incredible.
Speaker 2: He high points the ball and even in a tight
Speaker 2: window down that right sideline, he can box a guy out.
Speaker 4: He goes up and snatches the ball out. Well, the touchdown,
Speaker 4: the touchdown holding by the dB one hand and he
Speaker 4: caught it with one like the guy he's got his
Speaker 4: right arm and he can't get the arm out there
Speaker 4: and he wind up catching it with one hand. So
Speaker 4: when he plays man, he's at his best.
Speaker 2: So we could have picked that as the delivery of
Speaker 2: the game too, a thirteen yard touchdown pass to T
Speaker 2: Higgins at the twenty nine second mark, right before the
Speaker 2: end of the first half. Yes, so yeah, the dB
Speaker 2: is pulling his right arm, he yanks it in with
Speaker 2: his left.
Speaker 4: Paul. That was awesome, And these today's receivers are catching balls.
Speaker 4: Everybody is grabbing the ball out the air with one hand,
Speaker 4: and I'm like, well, what about the other hand, use
Speaker 4: the other hand if you can. But in this case
Speaker 4: t couldn't. But he caught the touchdown and we were
Speaker 4: kind of excited about that.
Speaker 2: Fantastic. Let's go out to the phones. Do we have
Speaker 2: Jackson in Cincinnati?
Speaker 3: Hey?
Speaker 6: Anny Amy?
Speaker 2: Yes, sir, Hey, something we're not talking about.
Speaker 14: And I'm not sure why?
Speaker 6: What is going on with mc spears? Why is he
Speaker 6: missing this many kicks? And he's and we're still holding
Speaker 6: behind and we're still supporting. What's going on?
Speaker 10: You got?
Speaker 2: Well, he's head up until today, he's had a phenomenal season.
Speaker 2: I mean he has.
Speaker 4: I mean he he missed two kicks, so he's missed
Speaker 4: three extra points this year.
Speaker 6: He misses every kick that matters.
Speaker 9: You know, he might make a kick to Yader in
Speaker 9: a preseason game, but he's missing every kick that matters.
Speaker 2: Let's go back now.
Speaker 4: If we don't throw them two interceptions or the interception
Speaker 4: and the pick six the Fumbel recovery, nobody would be
Speaker 4: talking about McPherson's missus. So yes, when it counts. This year,
Speaker 4: on a few games he hasn't made those kicks. But
Speaker 4: I will go to battle with McPherson weekend and week
Speaker 4: out if we score points, if we if we do
Speaker 4: what we're supposed to do, if we don't give up
Speaker 4: the fourteen points off of turnovers that kick when none
Speaker 4: of that stuff would matter.
Speaker 2: I understand your point, Oh, Jackson, every direction.
Speaker 12: I'm sorry, we can point fingers in every direction this year.
Speaker 2: Oh, absolutely to play their side of the ball, Jackson,
Speaker 2: I think you'll agree with me that this was the
Speaker 2: perfect ending to a miserable at six and eleven. Yeah, yeah, hey,
Speaker 2: appreciate the cary.
Speaker 4: And it doesn't make sense though. Here's the thing, you know,
Speaker 4: we we we talk about turnovers. If you win the
Speaker 4: turnover battle, you're most likely going to win the game.
Speaker 4: If you give up three turnovers and you get one,
Speaker 4: your your negative two, and guess what, you probably are
Speaker 4: not going to win the game. And today we did
Speaker 4: not win the Game's exactly right?
Speaker 2: How about Jim and Mason?
Speaker 4: Are you there? Jim? Yes, I'm here. What's on your mind?
Speaker 10: Hey, get away from.
Speaker 15: A day's game and this year's uh, you know, the
Speaker 15: game's over, the years over. But let me throw this
Speaker 15: at you guys, as far as they're saying the fancy
Speaker 15: could be fired, I'm thinking that maybe mouth hurt might
Speaker 15: be set up.
Speaker 16: Well, do you think the Bangles are throwing two or
Speaker 16: three first round draft takes with the Browns to get
Speaker 16: him and go off from there? Because we're getting the
Speaker 16: point where Joe's gonna get set up, and I think
Speaker 16: getting Miles Garrett or something like that, well the grass
Speaker 16: this could be a big something to think about.
Speaker 6: Am I wrong or am I right?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 4: I just can't see the Cleveland Browns giving up Miles
Speaker 4: Garrett too.
Speaker 2: I take a sufficient opponent to a divisional opponent. Remember
Speaker 2: Mike Tomlin already.
Speaker 4: Had a critical conversation about when Flacco left Cleveland going
Speaker 4: to Cincinnati, how do you do that?
Speaker 2: That makes sense?
Speaker 4: You don't trade inside your own division.
Speaker 2: So Miles Garrett, you.
Speaker 4: Know, remember Miles Garrett before the season started, didn't have
Speaker 4: a contract, and they were talking about quarterbacks and they
Speaker 4: didn't know what quarterback they were going to get, and
Speaker 4: Miles Garrett said, I don't have time to sit here
Speaker 4: and wait on the front a quarterback to come in
Speaker 4: here and make us look good. Until they gave him
Speaker 4: that that couple hundred million dollar contract and he said,
Speaker 4: I'll take that money.
Speaker 2: Over quarterbacks any day.
Speaker 4: That's right.
Speaker 2: So you have to be careful what you ask for.
Speaker 4: Because the timple fact is, I believe, and I'm I
Speaker 4: said this before, this year's draft should be nothing but
Speaker 4: defensive players. I would not go after an offensive player
Speaker 4: until late rounds if that, and then go out free
Speaker 4: agency to find an offensive guy. But this has to
Speaker 4: be a defensive draft. Picks for the Bengals this year,
Speaker 4: all defense.
Speaker 17: David, I agree, and I get, you know, trade within
Speaker 17: the big and I get that, but that usually was
Speaker 17: in the quarterback.
Speaker 7: But I just, uh, I'm kind of larry on draft.
Speaker 6: There is a really good quarterback.
Speaker 7: I don't think coming into craft as far as it's
Speaker 7: gonna make you break the team. But you know, I'm
Speaker 7: just saying, I'm defense side of the ball. We need
Speaker 7: to get h.
Speaker 17: I think somebody like Kik could really changed the whole
Speaker 17: game as far.
Speaker 7: As linebackers, Depik of back, stuff like that, Jim.
Speaker 2: Every phase of this defense needs to be addressed, the front,
Speaker 2: the middle, and the back. And thank you very much
Speaker 2: for your call, and that that got.
Speaker 4: To move on.
Speaker 2: Yes, we do thousands are waiting on hold Jeff and Tayton. Jeff,
Speaker 2: what's happening?
Speaker 11: Oh ye hey, it's a honor to talk to you,
Speaker 11: the great Jeff.
Speaker 2: It's an honor to talk to you in the Gem City.
Speaker 6: Okay, I've got a few things.
Speaker 14: I'll try to rattle them off real quick.
Speaker 11: These scoop sixes by fans. Didn't he have three this year?
Speaker 4: Oh you're talking about, oh fans fumbles?
Speaker 2: Oh, fumbles I think for a touchdown?
Speaker 4: Well, I think you I know he had to Minnesota
Speaker 4: earlier in the year and then this game today. As
Speaker 4: far as fumbles for pick six.
Speaker 6: He's got three.
Speaker 11: And I don't you know you talk about Miles Garrett
Speaker 11: and has torn three sacks being an all five records
Speaker 11: that could be broke. I don't think fans record of
Speaker 11: these three stoops.
Speaker 2: Oh, you're coupled with his coupled with his false starts too.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 18: Oh my god, he's just not a good not a
Speaker 18: good signing mirror.
Speaker 2: Here's here's here's the story. Here's the story.
Speaker 4: Here's the story that I brought up and the guy
Speaker 4: said about, you know, when it's come to quarterbacks, you
Speaker 4: can do that in your division listen. In nineteen ninety two,
Speaker 4: the Bengals released me and Dick Lebou was in Pittsburgh. Yeah, Shula,
Speaker 4: David Shula said, do you want me to call Dick
Speaker 4: Lebow and I go, Why the hell would I go
Speaker 4: to Pittsburgh. You don't go to Pittsburgh. You play for Cincinnati.
Speaker 4: You don't go to play in Pittsburgh. I don't care
Speaker 4: what position you play. You do not go on your division.
Speaker 4: You go outside your division and then you can play
Speaker 4: against those teams. But for us to go and grab
Speaker 4: just like we did Flako, I was shot that they
Speaker 4: grabbed Flaco. But they got Flaco because we needed a
Speaker 4: quarterback and experienced quarterback.
Speaker 2: But even that, I wouldn't.
Speaker 4: Never would have got Flaco because he come from the
Speaker 4: Cleveland Browns. There is so much incest.
Speaker 2: You know this, Oh, there is so much incest in
Speaker 2: the AFC. I know. I know.
Speaker 4: You've got to get released.
Speaker 2: First man, you gotta get released.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Travion and.
Speaker 2: Yeah Cleveland brown Yeah, oh yeah, so you don't do that, sick.
Speaker 4: That's right.
Speaker 2: Hey, Jeff, you got one more thing for us quick
Speaker 2: before we break?
Speaker 14: Yes, sir, I want to say the last child is
Speaker 14: talking about and there's no quarterback to that. Nando Mendoza
Speaker 14: is six four or five five, got a rocket arm,
Speaker 14: and I don't know who's gonna draft him, but I
Speaker 14: think they got a franchise quarterback and that's probably the
Speaker 14: only one to draft.
Speaker 2: Thanks you, probably probably, thank you, probably the Las Vegas
Speaker 2: right number one pick. Number one pick is probably gonna
Speaker 2: be him. But Dante Moore is awfully talented. Yeah, or
Speaker 2: I will say this that Fernando Mendoza, that interview right
Speaker 2: after the Rose Bowl. Yes, it was the most impressive
Speaker 2: thing I've seen all year. Oh yeah, that dude is
Speaker 2: class from top to bottom. And even though I bleed
Speaker 2: Scarlett and Gray, my alma mater, the Ohio State University,
Speaker 2: I'm taking a bath in cream and Crimson for the IU.
Speaker 4: Who's yours unbelievable season? Amazing? Hey, we've got to take
Speaker 4: a break.
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Speaker 4: He's David Foulter, This is.
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Speaker 4: The vultures are here and the tick Magnets in the house.
Speaker 4: Exactly right.
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Speaker 2: Appreciate everybody coming out. We've got a great crowd here today.
Speaker 2: Man post mortem twenty to eighteen. The Bengals lose to
Speaker 2: the Cleveland Browns. If you're just now turn it, you know,
Speaker 2: joining us and you don't know what happened in the game.
Speaker 2: Two defensive touchdowns by the Cleveland Browns and two missed
Speaker 2: extra points by Evan nick Pherson. Brutal, very brutal man
Speaker 2: And okay, with five minutes and what eleven seconds to
Speaker 2: go in this game?
Speaker 4: Trying to find you stats man here you yes.
Speaker 2: Five eleven?
Speaker 4: Okay?
Speaker 2: The Browns celebrate Miles Garrett's a third sack of the season.
Speaker 2: It is a single season record.
Speaker 4: I would have.
Speaker 2: Thought, yeah, looking at the television, I know what you're
Speaker 2: about to say that the Browns hit just won the
Speaker 2: Super Bowl? Yes, how can they get penalized and they
Speaker 2: weren't for their celebration after their two defensive touchdowns to
Speaker 2: fifteen yard celebration penalties and not get penalized for that
Speaker 2: display of when the entire team comes out, lifts Miles
Speaker 2: carrot up in the air to the heavens, carries in
Speaker 2: to the sidelines in celebration and the referees do nothing.
Speaker 4: All I saw is the referees go like this like
Speaker 4: time out for them to celebrate, and no penalty flag
Speaker 4: disrupt The game is live.
Speaker 2: The game is live. That sag did not stop the
Speaker 2: clock disrupting. Did Bengals entire flow of their offense?
Speaker 4: That should have been a fifteen yard penalty unsportsmun like conduct.
Speaker 4: Bengals got the ball fifteen yards further and who knows
Speaker 4: whatd have happened then, But for them to come out
Speaker 4: there and celebrate and.
Speaker 2: Stop the game because of that.
Speaker 4: It ain't like baseball when somebody hits a home run
Speaker 4: and he runs around, everybody want to give him high
Speaker 4: five because you broke the record in baseball, Because the
Speaker 4: pischers got to Pisch the next picks.
Speaker 2: But this game is live and it's to be going.
Speaker 2: The clock is running.
Speaker 4: They stopped the clock for him to celebrate, and then
Speaker 4: they backed up and said, okay, let's wind it back up.
Speaker 4: They're off the field. That's a fifteen yard penalty.
Speaker 2: Chick did the Bengals hoist Corey Dillon. Today he rushed
Speaker 2: for two hundred and seventy eight yards against the Denver
Speaker 2: Broncos for a single game rushing record and National Football
Speaker 2: League history on the sideline.
Speaker 4: Corey came to the island after he did that and
Speaker 4: they were all high fiving him, but the game was
Speaker 4: still going on. Yes, and what they did today, the
Speaker 4: Bengals are probably gonna get a excuse me letter from
Speaker 4: the league. Yes, sorry, we should have called a flag
Speaker 4: on it, but it's kind of late to call the flag.
Speaker 2: Now, game's over. You're absolutely right. Oh where do we go?
Speaker 4: It's on the wrecking ball, man, We're on the recond
Speaker 4: ball and we can't even get it out.
Speaker 2: That's exactly right. Hey, we've got is it? Anthony did
Speaker 2: Anthony Trupp?
Speaker 4: No, he's gone.
Speaker 2: Okay, how about Jeff in Indianapolis?
Speaker 9: Chick, sir to Rock what's going on to talk to you?
Speaker 4: All right, Jeff, We're good, man, We're good, Jeff. What's happening,
Speaker 4: chick You may remember week one?
Speaker 9: I called on my way back from Cleveland like a
Speaker 9: wrecking ball, like you guys say yes, and it's time
Speaker 9: to take the wrecking ball to the coaching staff. I'm sorry,
Speaker 9: Dak Taylor. He's had some great moments, but I to
Speaker 9: go to the next level. This team will be back,
Speaker 9: but Dak Taylor's not gonna take him there. I thank
Speaker 9: him for what he's done. He's not gonna take them there.
Speaker 8: I've seen enough.
Speaker 10: You know.
Speaker 9: We can talk drafts, we can talk all this stuff.
Speaker 9: But too many mistakes, too many things. I've seen it
Speaker 9: too many times.
Speaker 2: I'm in Indiana.
Speaker 9: Who's regret by the way, Dana Mendoza, let's go. I'm
Speaker 9: trying to figure out a way to get to Miami.
Speaker 9: I'm ready to rock and roll, Chickster.
Speaker 2: I like how coach Sigg stands on the gas baby
Speaker 2: and he don't let up. No he doesn't. Oh no
Speaker 2: he doesn't.
Speaker 4: Man, that is impressive.
Speaker 9: Can I say one thing watching Signetty coach and then
Speaker 9: happen to watch Taylor coaches like watching Stranger Things if
Speaker 9: you're in the normal world and the upside down. And
Speaker 9: then so rock I got one thing and I'll take
Speaker 9: your comments off air. I remember when you guys used
Speaker 9: to travel around and play basketball.
Speaker 10: Yes, Nay's mil Kentucky.
Speaker 6: I probably met you when I was seven.
Speaker 9: Eight years old.
Speaker 3: I remember that you would.
Speaker 9: I think you were a part of that. So I
Speaker 9: thank you for coming out. I remember here with my
Speaker 9: seven year old son. We've leed orange and black in Indianapolis, right,
Speaker 9: I had the opportunity to go bea could never I'm
Speaker 9: orange block to the.
Speaker 2: Day I died. There you go.
Speaker 3: Some changes.
Speaker 4: I only wish.
Speaker 2: I only wish Indianapolis because it's two hours away.
Speaker 4: Is in the AFC North yep?
Speaker 2: Kick Baltimore into the east, yes, and then who Miami
Speaker 2: to the south?
Speaker 4: Yep, Miami to the south. And at one time they
Speaker 4: talked about that realignaw but they didn't do it. But
Speaker 4: I I can't see why the Bengals don't play Indy
Speaker 4: should be in the conference. I mean Indie, Pittsburgh, Cincinnati
Speaker 4: right in that little circle. What do you call that
Speaker 4: outside the two seventy five loop. I guess just.
Speaker 2: Because just because Baltimore was formerly the Cleveland Browns.
Speaker 4: Doesn't mean and remember the Baltimore Coats back in the day,
Speaker 4: they didn't play. They were in the same division the
Speaker 4: Cincinnati Bengals were back in the day to Baltimore Coats.
Speaker 4: So why the Ravens got to be in that division?
Speaker 4: You're absolutely right?
Speaker 2: Hey, we've got is it Gary and Green Hills?
Speaker 18: Yeah?
Speaker 4: All right, Garry.
Speaker 19: Hey, I got a question. So Joe Burrow goes to
Speaker 19: the Bengals and say, you know, I want to trade,
Speaker 19: so you get whatever you can for me, and if
Speaker 19: you don't, I'm retiring. So if he puts him in
Speaker 19: a corner like that, he does retire. Let's say, does
Speaker 19: that make him through with the Bengal Is the Bengals
Speaker 19: no longer to proper have the property of Joe Burrow?
Speaker 4: Oh no, he remains.
Speaker 2: He remains property of the Cincinnati Bengals unless they would
Speaker 2: trade him. And that's what happened with Carsony.
Speaker 6: How long how long?
Speaker 2: Well he had the Bengals. The Bengals owned the right.
Speaker 4: To Joe Burrow based off of that last contract that
Speaker 4: he signed. So Joe Burrow, if if Joe Burrow decided
Speaker 4: to retire, he could not come back to another team
Speaker 4: unless the Bengals give him permission to do so. Yes,
Speaker 4: when you retire from a team, you just can't come
Speaker 4: out of retirement and go back to another.
Speaker 19: If his contract runs out, I don't know he's I
Speaker 19: think his contract runs.
Speaker 2: Out and he's got four years left.
Speaker 4: He's got four years left of the one that he
Speaker 4: just signed for two hundred and thirty something.
Speaker 19: It's a long time to be retired and then and
Speaker 19: wanting to come back and play football like riverts did.
Speaker 2: And and to pay back your pro rated signing bonus
Speaker 2: because you're not playing.
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, the men want to do that, the Bengals.
Speaker 4: That structure of contract that Joe Burrow signed is not
Speaker 4: just one of them out of the window contract. There's
Speaker 4: a lot of ways inside of that contry.
Speaker 19: I don't I don't want to play for you guys anymore.
Speaker 19: Trade make and the Bengals don't trading? What happens then? Then?
Speaker 4: No, Then he's just sitting on the sideline and he's
Speaker 4: not going to get paid. No, if he doesn't show up,
Speaker 4: he's gonna get fined.
Speaker 19: I just wondering, you know, if how long ago I
Speaker 19: raise the team of how the retirement and you decide,
Speaker 19: you know, I'd like to come back and try to
Speaker 19: play some more football.
Speaker 4: Well, he won't be He won't get paid doing nothing.
Speaker 4: Meaning if he's out there, if he's out there fishing,
Speaker 4: if he's out there fishing, he won't be doing nothing.
Speaker 4: So hey, appreciate the call. We gotta we gotta run.
Speaker 19: I wonder how that worked, you know, all.
Speaker 4: Right, thank you very much. We got to run. Do
Speaker 4: we have Richard?
Speaker 2: Hey, you know what, let's hang on Dick in Dayton.
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Speaker 2: and Rings in Liberty Township, South Liberty Drive, right near
Speaker 2: Lakota East High School, and we're talking Bengals football. They
Speaker 2: lose today twenty to eighteen to the Cleveland Browns. Instead
Speaker 2: of a sweep, the Bengals have to settle.
Speaker 4: For a split.
Speaker 2: And yes, Miles Garrett got his twenty third sack of
Speaker 2: the season that sets a single season NFL record for sacks,
Speaker 2: although before they started recording them, Cooy Bacon of the
Speaker 2: Cincinnati Bengals, he's got he has it. He had twenty plus.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he had plenty plus. And then they didn't record
Speaker 4: those sacks back then, And I wish they would have
Speaker 4: because Coy Bacon the sacks, he's probably had twenty five,
Speaker 4: twenty six of them, but they never counted them as
Speaker 4: sacks until after he started playing. So I still think
Speaker 4: that we've got the number one sack man right here
Speaker 4: in Cincinnati. But you know, Miles Garrett. I was shocked though,
Speaker 4: because I Miles Garrett after the Pittsburgh stee the game
Speaker 4: said the Pittsburgh was so concerned about him, that's why
Speaker 4: they lost the game. But then you go into the
Speaker 4: game today and I felt like the Bengals were so
Speaker 4: concerned about Miles Garrett getting that sash that everything was
Speaker 4: happening very fast. Joe got They showed a highlight up there.
Speaker 4: I'm watching them in the press box. He was getting
Speaker 4: out of getting out of his hand about second and
Speaker 4: a half two seconds. It was everything was quick. The sack.
Speaker 4: If Joe Burrow goes to the right, he's running the football,
Speaker 4: Miles Garrett doesn't get the sack. But Joe just went
Speaker 4: down because maybe he felt it coming. But you saw
Speaker 4: the one running play he had. Oh yeah, when you
Speaker 4: start looking around like where's Miles Garrett and Miles was
Speaker 4: right there on his back.
Speaker 2: So Joe, Joe was smart, you know.
Speaker 4: And and it wouldn't if Miles Garret would have got
Speaker 4: that sack in the first quarter. Do you think he
Speaker 4: had played the next three quarters because they took him
Speaker 4: out of the game. He still had a quarter left,
Speaker 4: So I don't know. I don't know if they were
Speaker 4: just getting that sack and trying to take him out,
Speaker 4: because they did.
Speaker 2: They took him out, I think for a play or two.
Speaker 2: He came back on. There was five minutes or eleven
Speaker 2: seconds to go in the game. I think you would
Speaker 2: have continued to play to give himself some.
Speaker 4: Room in some room.
Speaker 2: He needs a fack.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's exactly.
Speaker 2: But anyway, when you have Miles Garrett breathing down you
Speaker 2: that's why the Bengals attempted to run the football today.
Speaker 4: They ran the ball quite often and ran it at him. Yes,
Speaker 4: you know, so a lot of people look at this
Speaker 4: say we go back to Trey Henderson. You know, Trey
Speaker 4: is a great pass rusher, grace airs rusher. He grated
Speaker 4: out about in the nineties last year as quarterback pressers,
Speaker 4: but against the run he was in the fifties. And
Speaker 4: this is coming from Andrew Whitworth. Whitworth did a study
Speaker 4: on pass rushers and edge rushers Miles Garrett. They ran
Speaker 4: the ball at Miles Garrett, and Miles Garrett wasn't making
Speaker 4: a lot of tackles, so running the football at Miles Garrett,
Speaker 4: they should have continued to keep doing that. They started
Speaker 4: doing it, they were getting away with it, and then
Speaker 4: they wanted to throw the football. When they throw the football,
Speaker 4: the Bengals will bring over a tight end, a wide receiver,
Speaker 4: and they tried to bump him. There were times that
Speaker 4: that guy was he's just if you were you're a professional,
Speaker 4: he's a game record.
Speaker 2: And on that play, Orlando Brown Junior had no chance
Speaker 2: because there was not help and was no help. He
Speaker 2: just blew right past him and got the jail.
Speaker 4: But the thing that gets me though, is this, You're
Speaker 4: a national football player, football football player, Okay, in the NFL.
Speaker 4: They pay you a lot of money to do your position.
Speaker 4: You shouldn't have to get help. Orlando Brown getting help
Speaker 4: from Chase Brown tight ends. There was one time one
Speaker 4: of the tight ends was blocking Miles Garret by himself,
Speaker 4: but Joe Burrow threw the ball really quick and Miles
Speaker 4: Garrett tried, almost got there, but he threw the ball away.
Speaker 4: So you shouldn't have to have help. But Miles Garrett
Speaker 4: is a wrecking ball. We talk about wrecking ball on
Speaker 4: this show. He's a wrecking ball. And I think the
Speaker 4: being could not do what they wanted to do. They
Speaker 4: threw the ball down the field maybe once or twice.
Speaker 4: Everything was dink and dunk underneath because of the presser
Speaker 4: that Miles Garrett brings to the offensive football teams.
Speaker 2: Both Jamar Chase and t Higgins caught twenty one yard passes.
Speaker 4: That was the longest pass play of the game for
Speaker 4: the Bengals.
Speaker 2: They wanted to run the ball and avoid getting sacked
Speaker 2: by Miles Garrett. And meanwhile, the Bengals defense sacked Shador
Speaker 2: Sanders six times.
Speaker 4: Wow.
Speaker 2: For negative twenty nine yards, So that's not bad. Bengals dominate.
Speaker 2: They dominated the game, dominated, and lose twenty to eighteen.
Speaker 4: And you know, you see this throughout the year. Teams
Speaker 4: get beat up, teams get dominated, and the teams that
Speaker 4: get dominated the other team scores more points. And at
Speaker 4: the end of the game, when it clock says zero
Speaker 4: zero zero, it's who win and who lost it, no
Speaker 4: matter what does that say.
Speaker 2: You're absolutely right. Let's go out to the phones. We
Speaker 2: have Clayton. Is it in Mayfield? Yes, sir? How you
Speaker 2: guys going all right? Man up in northeast Ohio a Cleveland.
Speaker 12: Suburb, No, sir, Mainsville, Maysvilleayville, Kentuckysville, Kentucky.
Speaker 4: Thank you, yes, sir.
Speaker 2: Hey.
Speaker 12: I kind of have a different opinion, kind of unpopular
Speaker 12: opinion about how this season went to Borough and now
Speaker 12: the team played. I believe when Burrow had suffered that
Speaker 12: injury early on with the turf toe, allegedly he and
Speaker 12: he was slated to be down for pretty much the
Speaker 12: rest of the season, and we tried everything with brown
Speaker 12: and and then flat though, and we played terribly for
Speaker 12: multiple reasons on the defensive side and the offensive side,
Speaker 12: not as much as on the offensive side, but it
Speaker 12: could have been a little bit better. But we've had
Speaker 12: such a dumpster fire of a season. I'm surprised that
Speaker 12: they were so eager to rush Borough back in here,
Speaker 12: as if he was going to be the saving grace
Speaker 12: for our season, which was pretty much already by the
Speaker 12: time he got back, and warm Duck was already in
Speaker 12: the dumpster. I just feel like I was the only
Speaker 12: person saying, hey, look, whether he's ready or not, he
Speaker 12: needs to be disassociated with this dumpter fiver season. Let
Speaker 12: him come back next year, fresh ready for war. Let
Speaker 12: us make some changes in the offseason to accommodate him
Speaker 12: a little bit better, because now what we got is
Speaker 12: he didn't be rushed him back, and now he's unhappy,
Speaker 12: and now he has all that Garreton got his sack
Speaker 12: off on him.
Speaker 2: Clayton, and I don't think they rushed him back. He
Speaker 2: worked his tail off to get back. He is a
Speaker 2: competitor and he wanted to come back, and he was
Speaker 2: able to get healthy and play. I don't think no
Speaker 2: Borrow would.
Speaker 4: I don't think Joe Borow would have came back if
Speaker 4: he did not have the surgery.
Speaker 2: Turf told is.
Speaker 4: If you've ever had it before. Man, it's very painful. Yes,
Speaker 4: it's very painful. And for Joe I think I think
Speaker 4: once he had that surgery done because I said it too.
Speaker 4: Once he got the turf tow. I said, Joe's not
Speaker 4: coming back if he comes back and play, period, because
Speaker 4: turf tow is tough, especially the right turf toe that
Speaker 4: he's got to throw off of he's got to push
Speaker 4: off on. So but Joe wanted to come back, man,
Speaker 4: and I applaud him for one to come back. He
Speaker 4: said it. You paid me a lot of money to
Speaker 4: play this game. Let me go out and play and
Speaker 4: have because like these last three games, they're not going anywhere.
Speaker 4: So you got your franchise quarterback with the opportunity or
Speaker 4: a possibility of getting hurt again. And if he got
Speaker 4: hurt again in the day, he could be out for
Speaker 4: the rest of the season next year. But you know what,
Speaker 4: he wanted to play, and I applaud him for doing that.
Speaker 12: I know, and you know I'm not taking nothing from
Speaker 12: him for that.
Speaker 4: I get it.
Speaker 12: He's got that fire and even as part of making
Speaker 12: him such a such a stand up guy for us.
Speaker 12: But so none of y'all think that it should have
Speaker 12: been more talkspout. Hey, man, we want to we want
Speaker 12: to make for sure that we don't get him in
Speaker 12: here with season we've been having where it's pretty much
Speaker 12: game over and we want to make sure.
Speaker 2: Hey, if Flaco.
Speaker 12: Gets you know, hey, Garrett, get that sack out on
Speaker 12: flat though, all right.
Speaker 4: So be it.
Speaker 12: We don't really want Burrows racking up them type of
Speaker 12: stacks with the picks and the interceptions and the and
Speaker 12: the sack. We know it's kind of part of the
Speaker 12: it's kind of the nature of the monsters. But it's
Speaker 12: just been we got so much to fix as a team,
Speaker 12: and I mean.
Speaker 2: Especially Yeah, yeah, you're right. I mean you have Clayton.
Speaker 2: We got to move on. Appreciate, appreciate you. Uh we've
Speaker 2: got is it Bucky in uh in Taylor mil h
Speaker 2: Bucky are you there?
Speaker 3: Yes?
Speaker 4: What's on your mind? Welcome?
Speaker 3: Oh, thank you?
Speaker 10: Him to talk to y'all.
Speaker 4: My thought is, come on, Bucky, talk to us now.
Speaker 14: I'm sorry, y'all are in this on the offense and
Speaker 14: all McPherson, which agreed the offense.
Speaker 10: Doing that great didn't be that great.
Speaker 12: If Peerson had a bad game, but the defense needed
Speaker 12: one stop.
Speaker 3: And how many times this year is the defense not
Speaker 3: gotten that one stop that needed to win the game.
Speaker 4: Well, you're right, man, one stop, one stop. And you know,
Speaker 4: especially the way the game was played. Throughout the whole
Speaker 4: course of the game, Cleveland couldn't move the ball, throwing interceptions,
Speaker 4: getting sacks, all this stuff was happening three and a
Speaker 4: half quarters and then on the time that we really
Speaker 4: needed it, we couldn't come up with a player. So yeah,
Speaker 4: I would say, defense, if you make a play, we
Speaker 4: win the game. They didn't come up with the play.
Speaker 4: And time of possession. We gave them a little bit
Speaker 4: of time. And you know, you you one caller calls
Speaker 4: in and says we left him too much time. You
Speaker 4: know when when you win, when you go ahead with
Speaker 4: fifty seconds left in the game, and that's a very
Speaker 4: high percent. Normally some teams win those games, but for
Speaker 4: some reason we don't.
Speaker 3: As they score, I thought, we're gonna lose. There's too
Speaker 3: much time.
Speaker 4: Hey, Bucky, appreciate the call.
Speaker 2: Thank you. I I thought the same thing, there's too
Speaker 2: much time left on the clock. The defense played great
Speaker 2: for fifty eight and a half minutes that last one
Speaker 2: to twenty nine, Shador Sanders was able to go ten
Speaker 2: plays forty yards and get him in position for Andre
Speaker 2: Schmidt to go from goat to hero and beat the
Speaker 2: Bengals today twenty to eighteen. We've got to take a
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Speaker 2: twenty to eighteen loss to the Cleveland Browns today like
Speaker 2: a wrecking ball, and we're doing it at Wings and
Speaker 2: Rings Liberty Township, South Liberty Drive, good fights right near
Speaker 2: Lakota East High School. Good folks, home of the thunder Hawks.
Speaker 4: Thunderhawks love it here, and.
Speaker 2: David was this was a strange game, yea. Even Dan
Speaker 2: Horde and Lapp talked about how crazy it was to
Speaker 2: have two defensive scores within one minute and fifty seconds
Speaker 2: of each other.
Speaker 4: I started thinking, how many games have ever been played
Speaker 4: where two defensive touchdowns and an offense doesn't score a touchdown?
Speaker 4: And will they win that game?
Speaker 2: The Browns had forty yards of offense in the first
Speaker 2: half in their leading fourteen to twelve.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I was waiting. I was talking to my daughter.
Speaker 4: We go back and forth, and she's texting me about
Speaker 4: the game. I was waiting for something to happen for
Speaker 4: the Bengals, like, oh, you know, we're gonna come out
Speaker 4: of shell before you know it to be twenty eight
Speaker 4: to twelve and blah blah blah. And it never happened
Speaker 4: with that offense that we got. I was looking for
Speaker 4: something to happen, and it never happened today.
Speaker 2: And I've got to tip my cap to Jim schwartz
Speaker 2: Jim Schwartzman, defensive coordinator of the Cleveland Browns, former head
Speaker 2: coach of the did You Right Lions from two thousand
Speaker 2: and nine to twenty thirteen, but former defensive coordinator before
Speaker 2: that with the Titans, and then after the Lions with
Speaker 2: the Bills, Eagles and Browns.
Speaker 4: The guy is awesome. So someone just texted me, man
Speaker 4: and said, answer this nine aster, who it is, Answer me?
Speaker 4: How do you rush only four in the game on
Speaker 4: the winning drive against a rookie quarterback? And he had time?
Speaker 4: He confused, confusing, and you know what, once again, if
Speaker 4: you're putting more pressure as we were putting pressure on him,
Speaker 4: he got happy feet. He started running around doing things
Speaker 4: and throwing the ball away or getting sacked. And we
Speaker 4: going to that last and you know what's that that
Speaker 4: famous prevent defense preventing yourself from winning. Not the other
Speaker 4: team from beating you, but you're preventing yourself from winning
Speaker 4: the game.
Speaker 2: Keep throwing the dagger.
Speaker 4: At him, keep throwing bullets at him, you keep throwing
Speaker 4: everything you got at him. Because three and a half
Speaker 4: quarters you did that. And then in the last quarter,
Speaker 4: we last drive, we rush three, rush four. Don't put
Speaker 4: pressure on him, dropping back, trying to keep the ball
Speaker 4: in front of us, so we don't give up the
Speaker 4: big touchdown. But all they need is to feel go
Speaker 4: to win the game. And sure enough, that's what they did.
Speaker 2: Ten plays, forty yards and they got it in position
Speaker 2: for Andre Schmidt forty nine yards at the gun twenty
Speaker 2: to eighteen. Tough man, brutal, just brutal, rookie quarterback, and
Speaker 2: you give him all the time in the world to
Speaker 2: throw the football. And on that last drive, man, you
Speaker 2: bring the house.
Speaker 4: You if they're gonna beat me, I'm well, let me
Speaker 4: back this up because both of our starting corners went down,
Speaker 4: so now we had to bring in the back ends,
Speaker 4: the backups, and.
Speaker 2: The Browns were missing four fifths of their offensive line. Yes,
Speaker 2: and they're starting cornerbacks Caldwell and Denzel Ward.
Speaker 4: Yeah, both of those guys went down early. That's right,
Speaker 4: they went down early. One of them came back, and
Speaker 4: I think one did not come back.
Speaker 2: It was called Well with the shoulder War didn't come back,
Speaker 2: and denshell Ward with the neck injury, did not come back.
Speaker 2: To see you.
Speaker 4: You've you know the guy that just texted me? Is
Speaker 4: it poor coaching? Is it h players line up in
Speaker 4: the wrong position? I mean, what does it mean. First
Speaker 4: of all, I don't never blame anything on the coach.
Speaker 4: You know, miss the tackles that were missed this year
Speaker 4: was horrific. The guys that's missed so many tackles. So
Speaker 4: I can't blame the coach for that. That's that's the player.
Speaker 4: But when you got a system that these guys are
Speaker 4: running through the system, it took him a while earlier
Speaker 4: to get this system down and they got a little
Speaker 4: bit better. But as a professional athlete, when you're in
Speaker 4: the field, you had one job to do, that's tackle.
Speaker 4: You got one job to do on offense that's catch
Speaker 4: and block, hold on to the football. When you don't
Speaker 4: do that, you don't belong out there.
Speaker 2: Rock. What worries me about the Bengals is when they
Speaker 2: get nine yards and need one I know, second fifty
Speaker 2: nine to go, second and one, I know, third and
Speaker 2: one and then fourth and one they come out. That's
Speaker 2: a delay of game, a delay a game.
Speaker 15: What.
Speaker 2: Let me tell you what happened.
Speaker 4: If y'all out there listening, if Chick Lovewick could take
Speaker 4: some of this energy he had right here, Bengles would
Speaker 4: have won forty something nothing.
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, I appreciate that rock. Okay, rock, while
Speaker 2: we're here. Uh, let's go out to the phones. Welcome
Speaker 2: to our friend Brandon in Indianapolis. Brandon House up man, Hi.
Speaker 8: Brandon, Hey hey check Hey foot Rock, Happy New Year.
Speaker 10: Do you mind if I call you a fault rock?
Speaker 4: That's my nickname. Man, it's all good. First, don't just
Speaker 4: don't call me late for dinner. So faux rock Rock.
Speaker 3: Hey.
Speaker 8: Uh, it's good to talk to you guys in that chickup.
Speaker 8: You know, I comment on your Facebook about the when
Speaker 8: you put the schedule out about the cults the other day.
Speaker 8: I mean, we're upset.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 8: I'm a Bengo fan too, but I would love but
Speaker 8: you know, because I don't know why I don't play
Speaker 8: each other well often. I mean, you're right, sometimes you
Speaker 8: can get you know, down there less than two hours.
Speaker 8: It just depends on traffic. But the Colts, you know,
Speaker 8: lost seven straight. But guys, what I'm going to say
Speaker 8: about the Bengals is, you know, I know that they
Speaker 8: were talk great writers talking about the Colts, and they
Speaker 8: were saying that the fans shouldn't make decisions.
Speaker 10: The owners have to.
Speaker 8: I understand that, but if it wasn't it for us.
Speaker 10: You know, we put butts to the seats.
Speaker 8: You know, if we don't like what we see, we
Speaker 8: don't have to put our butts in the seats. And
Speaker 8: I don't know how you feel about that day, But
Speaker 8: are Chicky the one? But I mean, I don't blame
Speaker 8: Joe Burrow. I mean, hopefully that was this, this rare
Speaker 8: or whatever that he's gonna leave.
Speaker 10: But I don't blame him in a way.
Speaker 8: The Bengals aren't getting anybody to play around him.
Speaker 5: Since that Super Bowl run, So I don't blame him.
Speaker 10: If he wants to go, I think I want to too.
Speaker 2: No, I don't.
Speaker 4: I don't think that Joe Burrow's going anywhere. I think
Speaker 4: a lot of it is, man, it's frustration. Yes, you
Speaker 4: do not let a friend. You don't let a franchise
Speaker 4: quarterback get out of here. That's why they signed into
Speaker 4: that big old contract. So once again, Joe Burrow's not
Speaker 4: going anywhere.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 4: It's sounds like he's a little bit upset because he's
Speaker 4: tired of losing, but we all are too. And the
Speaker 4: problem is though they can't they can't interview the whole
Speaker 4: team after a game, right, So they're gonna interview the
Speaker 4: star players, and normally it's the quarterback, a wide receiver,
Speaker 4: and maybe a defensive guy. So if you ask everybody
Speaker 4: that same question, you're gonna get sixty seventy eighty percent
Speaker 4: of them saying, hey, listen, we just got to get better.
Speaker 4: Joe Burrow has a voice and an opinion to say
Speaker 4: what he says, and that's what he says. I'm not
Speaker 4: having fun. Well, when you're losing, that's not fun. I
Speaker 4: don't care whatever sport it is. But when you're winning,
Speaker 4: it's fun. Nobody wants to lose, and that guy does
Speaker 4: not want to lose.
Speaker 10: But Dave, I mean, I know, I'm sure you agree that.
Speaker 10: I mean, I know we can't go in there and
Speaker 10: help Mike. You got to get a new coach bike,
Speaker 10: you got it. I mean, that's his job. But if
Speaker 10: we're not.
Speaker 8: Happy, we don't have to come back. I mean, you know,
Speaker 8: I mean, I'm just saying the fans, I think you
Speaker 8: do have a lot to say.
Speaker 5: I'm not saying we rule the roost.
Speaker 8: But do you think Zach Taylor is back next year?
Speaker 10: I'm so many yes, you.
Speaker 2: Will be baby back a way because of the continuity
Speaker 2: with the offense, now all bets are off. He's an
Speaker 2: offensive deal. If this team starts one in four or
Speaker 2: two and five, two and six, it finishes below five
Speaker 2: hundred and misses the playoffs next year, ar McCaddon.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it might be absolute Army, Cad might be ton Yes,
Speaker 4: you know, and I think Joe Burrow said it to
Speaker 4: Joe Burrow said in his presconference today that I have
Speaker 4: all the faith in my coaches. Yes, they come out there,
Speaker 4: they work hard, they get us prepared. I can understand that.
Speaker 4: But playing in the NFL or any sport, if you
Speaker 4: don't win, it's time to move on. And I'm not
Speaker 4: saying that Zach Taylor should going towhere. I like Zach,
Speaker 4: but I also understand too. Winning solves a lot of problems.
Speaker 4: And if you're not winning, officially, somebody, and it may
Speaker 4: not be Mike, It might be the fans of Cincinnati.
Speaker 4: They might get tired of it. And you know what,
Speaker 4: when you get tired of it, you don't do it.
Speaker 4: And if it starts hurting Mike's pocketbook, things could change.
Speaker 4: That might be some of the things that Joe Burrow
Speaker 4: is talking about. We need change. Bring in players, bring
Speaker 4: in people that want to win that know how to win,
Speaker 4: and we want to win now, because that's the only
Speaker 4: reason why these guys play the sport is to win championships.
Speaker 4: You don't play the sport just because now they're making
Speaker 4: a whole lot of money today and those paychecks look
Speaker 4: pretty good. But the ultimate goal at the end of
Speaker 4: the year is to be a champion. And if you're
Speaker 4: not a champion, why are you playing the game? And
Speaker 4: that's why this is going to be a defensive draft.
Speaker 2: And even in free agency you're bringing in defensive place.
Speaker 2: Some are saying, oh, it's going to take a year
Speaker 2: or two or longer to get this defense straightened out. No,
Speaker 2: look at what the Texans have done, look at what
Speaker 2: the Jags have done, and the Chicago Bears have done.
Speaker 2: They've taken double digit losses and now they're going to
Speaker 2: the playoffs.
Speaker 4: And you have an offensive minded head coach. Most of
Speaker 4: the head coaches that are coaching in the National Football League,
Speaker 4: a lot of them are defensive minded coaches. So if
Speaker 4: I'm a defensive minding guy, that means I'm more important
Speaker 4: and concerned about my defense. Zach Taylor's an offensive minded
Speaker 4: guy who was in the Rams. Under the Rams head coach. Yes,
Speaker 4: now he comes here and he's offensive minded guy. So
Speaker 4: Zach Taylor wants to throw the football forty to fifty times.
Speaker 4: A defensive minded coach is saying, put it on the
Speaker 4: ground so my defense can get out there and stop
Speaker 4: your offense. Zach Taylor's not concerned about what I'm not
Speaker 4: saying that They back that up. He is concerned about
Speaker 4: his defense, but he's more concerned about scoring points than
Speaker 4: anything else.
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Speaker 2: best for last? When the Bengals finally took a lead, yes,
Speaker 2: one twenty nine to go, it highlighted the seven place
Speaker 2: sixty one yard scoring Jamar Chase catches a four yard
Speaker 2: touchdown pass from Joe Burrow, giving the Bengals.
Speaker 4: A short lived eighteen to seventeen league.
Speaker 2: They went for the two point conversion, it got knocked down,
Speaker 2: didn't didn't get it, but the Bengals couldn't protect the
Speaker 2: final one twenty nine.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and someone called about, you know, giving them time
Speaker 4: on the clock. It's you know, it's hard. It's hard
Speaker 4: to let cord. It's hard to let the clock run out.
Speaker 4: When you're down, you know, you have to go and
Speaker 4: score a touchdown. But then defensively, you've got to stop people.
Speaker 4: Other teams are doing it in the NFL, they're stopping
Speaker 4: them at certain times. So why are we struggling so much?
Speaker 4: That's why I believe that next year's additions to the
Speaker 4: Cincinnati Bengals should be all defense, because if you put
Speaker 4: all defense, and I'm not saying the defensive guys we
Speaker 4: got are bad. Some of them need to be better tackler,
Speaker 4: some of them need to be this and that. But
Speaker 4: you don't need you don't need another wide receiver, you
Speaker 4: don't need another running back.
Speaker 2: You don't need another this. You might need a lineman.
Speaker 4: But defensively, we're going we're stacking on defense. We need edge,
Speaker 4: we need interior, we need you know, we got some
Speaker 4: pretty good young young linebackers, but we need defensive guys
Speaker 4: because I think Joe Burrow would love to have a
Speaker 4: better defense than he had this year because of the
Speaker 4: stuff that he does on offense, no doubt.
Speaker 2: And Rock speaking from the defensive standpoint, what does the
Speaker 2: push up the middle by the defensive tackles, what does
Speaker 2: that do and the edge rushers? What does that do
Speaker 2: for the secondary? Well, it makes it easy to cover.
Speaker 4: It makes it it makes it easy to defend when
Speaker 4: you're back, when you're out there and you're chasing a
Speaker 4: man who's running around the field and you have no
Speaker 4: idea where he's going, it gives him all the opportunity
Speaker 4: in the world to do that. Even the day's game,
Speaker 4: there were a lot of times that Sanders was back
Speaker 4: there looking for somebody to throw the ball to and
Speaker 4: he couldn't find him. You know why, because those guys
Speaker 4: were covered. They were covered today, and then it gives
Speaker 4: an opportunity to make plays. And that defensive line made
Speaker 4: some plays today. Sacked in six times. Yes, when was
Speaker 4: the last time this defense sacked anybody six times in
Speaker 4: the game?
Speaker 2: Not this year?
Speaker 4: And they had opportunities for interceptions oh yeah, Ginalstone, there
Speaker 4: was one of them. Came right in front of genal Thtone.
Speaker 4: He was going for the hit. Ball comes right over
Speaker 4: the top.
Speaker 2: Of the guy.
Speaker 4: You intercept that ball, you're not gonna get every hit.
Speaker 4: And in this case Geno Stone, who's missing tackles anyway,
Speaker 4: go get the damn ball and.
Speaker 2: Go get the ball.
Speaker 4: And had he not, if he would have whiffed on it.
Speaker 2: The guy behind him, Yes, the Bengals interception, Yes, and
Speaker 2: he's laying there on the ground like, man, I had it.
Speaker 2: I had it, but Gino chipped it away.
Speaker 4: Now I just think that again, this football team is
Speaker 4: a good football team. It's probably one of the best
Speaker 4: non playoff teams that are not in there right now.
Speaker 4: So we got to figure out going forward, what's our
Speaker 4: next step.
Speaker 2: What do we do next?
Speaker 4: I think you're gonna have to find some free agency
Speaker 4: veterans out there. I'm not talking about a twelve year guy.
Speaker 4: I'm talking about somebody that playing that five to ten
Speaker 4: year range that could help a younger player develop and
Speaker 4: get where they need to be.
Speaker 2: We've got two young.
Speaker 4: Rookie linebackers that are pretty good except their green and
Speaker 4: they're running out of that they're running out of space.
Speaker 2: They're just running up and down the field.
Speaker 4: A veteran linebacker, Wilson that we got rid of and
Speaker 4: we send him the Dallas said. He's the captain of
Speaker 4: the defense. And you get rid of him, you bitch
Speaker 4: him because this guy runs the four to three and
Speaker 4: I run a four to six. But what Wilson is
Speaker 4: bringing to the table is knowledge, yes, And I'll take
Speaker 4: knowledge over speed in youth any day. But that guy
Speaker 4: who's learning from Wilson, I mean a couple of years
Speaker 4: from now, he'll be the new Wilson.
Speaker 2: See. And that's how you staff.
Speaker 4: That's how you build a football team by not just
Speaker 4: getting rid of the old guy, but letting the old
Speaker 4: guy help the young guy come along. And then now
Speaker 4: gonna be a better football team by that.
Speaker 2: And you know what that reminds me of the Pittsburgh Steelers.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, the way they do it. They know how
Speaker 4: to develop, they know how to go out and find
Speaker 4: if they if they go lose a linebacker, let me
Speaker 4: tell you next year's draft, they gonna go find that
Speaker 4: same guy that they lost and some college somewhere else.
Speaker 4: And when he comes in, he's playing in a system
Speaker 4: that he may have played in college, so they ran
Speaker 4: a three to four in college, or they ran a
Speaker 4: three three five in college, and we bring him in
Speaker 4: here as a linebacker and we're.
Speaker 2: Running that same defense.
Speaker 4: The only difference between that guy and the guy that
Speaker 4: was there before is the last name and the change
Speaker 4: of the number.
Speaker 2: Or he's already there and that he's ready.
Speaker 4: Experience.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, they plug him right in, blug him right in.
Speaker 4: Man, we know, chick, wait, we needed the Bengals need
Speaker 4: a general manager? Can you get out of radio? And
Speaker 4: maybe I can get out of this and I'll be
Speaker 4: a general manager. You know, I just know a little
Speaker 4: bit about football, and I'm not trying to say they
Speaker 4: don't know. But as a former player, all I want
Speaker 4: to do is see this team win. And how can
Speaker 4: I make that happen by sitting up in the press
Speaker 4: box looking at uniforms when I can be helping this
Speaker 4: football team secondary do what they do. I missed a
Speaker 4: few tackles in my careers, not a whole lot of them,
Speaker 4: but I missed a few.
Speaker 2: But when it hurt.
Speaker 4: For someone who played the game to go up and say, hey, man,
Speaker 4: what are you looking at?
Speaker 2: What do you watch? When you back up in an
Speaker 2: extra set of eyes. Yeah, an extra set of eyes.
Speaker 4: I watched the secondary on the snap of the ball
Speaker 4: before pre snap. These guys are twenty five yards d
Speaker 4: and the ball ain't ben snap yet, and guess what
Speaker 4: tight ends to catch the ball across the middle.
Speaker 2: I would never let that allow that to happen. Troy
Speaker 2: Aikman's going down to what and advising the Dolphins and
Speaker 2: vicely Dolphins on a coach.
Speaker 4: Troy Aikman, who played for the Cowboys, who's on TV
Speaker 4: doing commentating, He's gonna be a head coach advisory for
Speaker 4: the Miami Dolphins. Are you kidding me?
Speaker 2: And Tom Brady is part owner of the Ross Vegas Raider.
Speaker 4: He's on TV and radio talking about games, and I'm going,
Speaker 4: are you kidding me? Why is it that everybody else
Speaker 4: wants to do that but we don't. How about inside information?
Speaker 4: Inside information? Man? I would love to be a scott.
Speaker 4: I would love to be a scout for the Bengals.
Speaker 4: Send me to tim Buck two or California. Let me
Speaker 4: watch some players, and I'm gonna come back with a
Speaker 4: football player. I guarantee I'll come back with somebody that
Speaker 4: can play from some college somewhere.
Speaker 2: David, you're going to the the blue turf at Hayes, Kansas.
Speaker 2: I'm on my way at Fort Hayes State. I'm on
Speaker 2: my way and I bumped into Duke Tobin when I
Speaker 2: covered the club. He says, yeah, I've been there. Yeah,
Speaker 2: leave no stone unturned.
Speaker 4: You've been there. But have you brought anybody from there
Speaker 4: to come for your team?
Speaker 2: You know?
Speaker 4: Not and not not Every uh uh National championship team
Speaker 4: has all the players that could play in the NFL.
Speaker 4: Is somebody out there and and and wherever that country is,
Speaker 4: that town is that can play from a small school.
Speaker 4: But you gotta go out there and see him. Look
Speaker 4: at the film develop and see what they got. Paul
Speaker 4: Brown saw film on me from Dick Lebow and bral
Speaker 4: Brown said, well, that's not a safety. That's a damn linebacker.
Speaker 4: He said, you dude, you know what Lebo told him.
Speaker 4: That's the best safety we probably will ever have on
Speaker 4: this football team. And when they drafted me, and Paul
Speaker 4: Brown looked at me face and face and he said,
Speaker 4: you're not a linebacker. I say, Coach, I'm a safety.
Speaker 4: I'm big as a linebacker. Just let me play. And
Speaker 4: you know what the rest is history? Absolutely it is.
Speaker 2: It's the rest of history.
Speaker 4: But you gotta know, you have to know your players.
Speaker 4: You got to know what's going on out there. Don't
Speaker 4: just look at TV and say, oh, that guy plays
Speaker 4: for Nebraska or he plays for Oklahoma. Oh that's the
Speaker 4: number one team in the country. Well what about the
Speaker 4: team that's forty fifth in the country. They got athletes.
Speaker 4: Look at the film. You want somebody to tackle them,
Speaker 4: a be around the football. I'm gonna go look at
Speaker 4: a guy who's around the football on every play. You
Speaker 4: know what, he's gonna become an athlete from me in
Speaker 4: the NFL.
Speaker 2: That's David Folts. That's the Rick and bow Man's exactly right.
Speaker 2: And this is Chick Ludwig. We're live at Wings and
Speaker 2: Rings in Liberty Township and you're listening to the Tri
Speaker 2: State Chevy Dealer's postgame sports Talk presented by RNL Carriers
Speaker 2: following the bengals twenty to eighteen loss to the Cleveland
Speaker 2: Browns on seven hundred WLW and Cincinnati ESPN fifteen thirty.
Speaker 4: Good to talk to you, man. What a great day, man,
Speaker 4: What a great day.
Speaker 2: Here in Ings and Me, you are listening to the
Speaker 2: Tri State Chevy Dealers. Postgame Sports Talk presented by RNL
Speaker 2: carriers Chick Ludwig alongside Faux Rock, David Fulcher, Fultures, Vultures,
Speaker 2: and the Chick Magnets are here tonight at Wings and
Speaker 2: Rings Liberty Township. Man, we're having a blast and hey,
Speaker 2: we just had and what an eighth grader? Yes, come
Speaker 2: up to the table and ask David Fulcher, you got.
Speaker 4: Any tips for me? Tips?
Speaker 2: Can you give the listeners the cliffs notes version of
Speaker 2: what you told that young man? Well? I told him.
Speaker 4: I said, first of all, make it bead up when
Speaker 4: you get out in the morning. Got to make it
Speaker 4: beat up. Take care of your house, take care of
Speaker 4: clean go to class because you can't play sports with
Speaker 4: if you don't have the grades. And then number two,
Speaker 4: man play it from the heart. Don't play it from
Speaker 4: the money, because you know what You're gonna get paid
Speaker 4: no matter what you do. But if you play the
Speaker 4: game because you love playing it, people are gonna appreciate
Speaker 4: what you do. And if you do that daily, you're
Speaker 4: gonna be successful. I didn't say winners, wins and losses.
Speaker 4: I said take care of your business. And if they
Speaker 4: take care of theirs. You're doing your job. And that's
Speaker 4: what I tried to tell him. That's beautiful, man, that's beautiful. David. Yeah,
Speaker 4: great stuff.
Speaker 2: And I loved what Dion Sanders said about the name,
Speaker 2: image and likeness and guys opting out of their bowl
Speaker 2: games jumping into the transfer portal. And he said, a
Speaker 2: lot of guys are doing really the wrong thing.
Speaker 4: Oh they are.
Speaker 2: That could jeopardize their college careers and their future careers.
Speaker 2: He said, I never chased the money. I chased greatness.
Speaker 2: And when greatness came, here come the money. Here come
Speaker 2: the money. And that's how it is.
Speaker 4: Man. You play this game because you love playing it.
Speaker 4: My grandson is saying goodbye, bye bye man. See you, buddy,
Speaker 4: Papaul big Man. If you're chasing greatness, okay. And Paul
Speaker 4: Brown and Mike Brown said this to me many many
Speaker 4: years ago when I came into the league. He says,
Speaker 4: you keep doing your job. We're gonna keep paying you.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 4: You know, we got some pennies back in the day.
Speaker 4: They're making a whole lot of money today. When he
Speaker 4: told me that, I said, all you want me to
Speaker 4: do is hit people.
Speaker 2: I like that.
Speaker 4: Yes, So I'm gonna like my paycheck because I'm gonna
Speaker 4: go out there and hit you, and then Mike Brown's
Speaker 4: gonna pay me or Paul Brown's gonna pay me. And
Speaker 4: once again, I give all the the glory to obviously
Speaker 4: my Lord and Jesus Jesus Christ. But when they drafted
Speaker 4: me and they brought me in here, Dick la Boll said,
Speaker 4: I got a safety, but he don't look like one.
Speaker 4: But I got a guy that I'll tell you what
Speaker 4: his motor. He's gonna be around in football all the time.
Speaker 4: And that's what I wanted to give them, and I
Speaker 4: wanted to give the city of Cincinnati.
Speaker 2: Rock before we reached the bottom of the hour break
Speaker 2: the season ends. You walk in the locker room after
Speaker 2: the game, you're gonna look around and you're gonna say
Speaker 2: to all your teammates, you're gonna look around and some
Speaker 2: of you gentlemen are not going to be here.
Speaker 4: Then I be here.
Speaker 2: Yeah. So it's there's a lot of emotion that's got
Speaker 2: to be going through you the last game of the season.
Speaker 4: When you walk in that locker room, you know this
Speaker 4: is this game was not just a game against the
Speaker 4: Browns and against the Bengals. On the NFL. This was
Speaker 4: an audition for these guys, yes, for next year, because
Speaker 4: a lot of these guys won't be back. These guys
Speaker 4: are going to go other places. They need to have
Speaker 4: some film on them so people can see them. So
Speaker 4: and I heard Zach Taylor when they were in the
Speaker 4: locker room talking to him, and I thought I heard
Speaker 4: a little bit of tearness in his voice because he
Speaker 4: is so close to these guys for the last many
Speaker 4: years he's been here. That some of them won't be here,
Speaker 4: some of the coaches may not be here, because this
Speaker 4: is what happens in football. In sports, you lose players,
Speaker 4: you gain players. And when you go in there and
Speaker 4: you look at him, you know, like I would give
Speaker 4: an example of being on the defense and I'm playing
Speaker 4: on this defensive backfield and some of the guys who
Speaker 4: have struggled Gino Stone a lot of mistackles. You know,
Speaker 4: a lot of guys struggle that they may not be here.
Speaker 4: You could be my opponent next year, or you could
Speaker 4: be out of the NFL. So for all the love
Speaker 4: that I have for my brothers, now you gonna be
Speaker 4: on another team or in another city. Still love you, man.
Speaker 4: When we play for another team, I can't love you
Speaker 4: like I want to. I'm not gonna try to hurt you,
Speaker 4: but I'm trying to beat you. So this is probably
Speaker 4: the hardest thing to go in, especially when this is
Speaker 4: a playoff caliber type of football team atmosphere, and for
Speaker 4: three years in a row we have not gotten there.
Speaker 2: And that's hard.
Speaker 4: Chick. Oh, it's gotta be absolutely because you're not You're
Speaker 4: not gonna get that brotherly love anymore because they're gone.
Speaker 4: When them guys clean today, when they walked out of there,
Speaker 4: most of them clean out their lockers today, or they're
Speaker 4: gonna come on Monday and clean out their lockers because
Speaker 4: that locker room is gonna be closed down by tomorrow.
Speaker 4: So some of them guys already have their flights ready
Speaker 4: to go, and some of them may not be back.
Speaker 4: Some of them might even had their cars running. Yeah,
Speaker 4: cars probably are pushing the button get the car warmed
Speaker 4: up before they got out there. Man, exactly, home and
Speaker 4: home could be the west coast, the East coast, somewhere
Speaker 4: that you got to drive and go.
Speaker 2: Home, somewhere where the sun might be shin at I'm
Speaker 2: telling you some might be shigning little warmer. The hours
Speaker 2: have changed. You never know.
Speaker 4: It's six o'clock here, but it might be three o'clock
Speaker 4: where they come from.
Speaker 2: You never know.
Speaker 4: Man, Hey, hey, thanks so much for cost of coming out. Yes, yes,
Speaker 4: good to see it, man.
Speaker 2: And now, gosh, preparation really starts for next year.
Speaker 4: This is it, man, This is right now. What you're
Speaker 4: doing is you're getting rid of all this stuff. Football
Speaker 4: is over. You might want to. I don't even know
Speaker 4: if the players are gonna look at the game film
Speaker 4: from the day because it doesn't matter because when you
Speaker 4: look at the game field today, you're prepared and preparing
Speaker 4: for next week. So really it's you watch the game
Speaker 4: on your own. But right now, these coaches have to
Speaker 4: get themselves ready for the draft and any free agency
Speaker 4: that are out there, and the guys they want to
Speaker 4: come back. You know, Zach Taylor's gonna get with every
Speaker 4: position coach and they're gonna talk about all their players,
Speaker 4: and those players are hey, is he coming back? Do
Speaker 4: we keep him? Do we want him? What are we
Speaker 4: gonna do? And this is how you make up the draft,
Speaker 4: because you know you're gonna lose three dbs or two
Speaker 4: d linemen.
Speaker 2: At least a third, at least a third, if not
Speaker 2: half the roster.
Speaker 4: Taff of a roster could come out. It's the same
Speaker 4: way when they come in and they do the roster,
Speaker 4: they come out with eighty five, eighty five, ninety guys.
Speaker 4: They gotta get it down in fifty five, well sixty
Speaker 4: three and before you know it done thirty guys. Man,
Speaker 4: once you call you a friend, they're gone. They're gone,
Speaker 4: and you may see him again on another team, or
Speaker 4: they may be done with football. Period. It's a tough one.
Speaker 4: Man been there and done that. Man, been at that
Speaker 4: corner many times. Great stuff rock, Yeah, I appreciate it.
Speaker 4: You're listening to the Tri State Chevy Dealers post game
Speaker 4: sports Talk presented by Arnell Carriers. A little post mortem
Speaker 4: on the bengals.
Speaker 2: Twenty to eighteen loss to the Cleveland Browns today and
Speaker 2: a six and eleven season. When Joe Burrow went down,
Speaker 2: I said, oh my gosh, five and twelve is coming,
Speaker 2: and they went six and eleven. And the silver lining
Speaker 2: that we talked about at the top of the show.
Speaker 2: Some fans will appreciate it that the Bengals were drafting
Speaker 2: ninth instead of dropping to like eleven or twelve.
Speaker 4: You know, you know when you have a good season, man,
Speaker 4: when you're down in that twenty third, twenty fifth, twenty
Speaker 4: seventh pick in the draft because you're doing so well.
Speaker 4: But when you're picking early, this pick has to be
Speaker 4: a grand slam, not a base hit. This pick that
Speaker 4: the Bengals got to pick at number nine has to
Speaker 4: be a grand slam, somebody that could come in here
Speaker 4: and make a difference immediately. And then you just keep
Speaker 4: doing the same thing and each each pick, the second pick,
Speaker 4: the third pick, even when you go out and get
Speaker 4: free agents, you gotta get free agents men that are
Speaker 4: gonna be an impact player that makes a difference now,
Speaker 4: not three years from now. The rookies coming out of
Speaker 4: high college. They're gonna be playing behind veterans. Those guys
Speaker 4: we can rely on two and three and four years
Speaker 4: from now. But we have got to get a bona
Speaker 4: fide number one pick that is going to make an
Speaker 4: impact to this team right now on the defensive side
Speaker 4: of the ball.
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Speaker 2: Chick Ludwig. We're continuing to discuss the bengals twenty to
Speaker 2: eighteen loss to the Cleveland Browns and the Bengals season
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Speaker 2: are up six to nothing after missing the after the
Speaker 2: first touchdown and the missister point.
Speaker 4: Ye okay, now they're on the.
Speaker 2: Doorstep of scoring again.
Speaker 4: All right.
Speaker 2: They drive to the doorstep really of the Browns end zone.
Speaker 4: I think it was on a four yard line too.
Speaker 4: And for yard line Joe Burrow is aiming for was
Speaker 4: it t Higgins? T Higgins? Yeah? In the end zone?
Speaker 2: The ball gets deflected by is it Shelby Harris? And
Speaker 2: then Devin Bush takes it to the house, takes it
Speaker 2: ninety seven yards to the house. And it's just like that.
Speaker 4: It's seven to six, and think about it going and
Speaker 4: score a touchdown thirteen. Nothing looks a little bit better.
Speaker 4: Now Cleveland's really reeling. All of a sudden, we give
Speaker 4: him life.
Speaker 2: We're ready to run him out of the gym. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and everything changes, it does it And with another minute
Speaker 2: fifty seconds to go, it happens again. It happens again
Speaker 2: with Noahfense fumbling yep, and then running the ball into
Speaker 2: the end zone.
Speaker 4: You know, it's one thing that I could say about
Speaker 4: people who fumble. You know, you hit if you get
Speaker 4: a good shot on the guy and ball pops out.
Speaker 4: It happens. But he caught the football and now he's
Speaker 4: running for six to seven yards and what did they
Speaker 4: tell you? And Pop Warner football, Tuck it away, Tuck
Speaker 4: it away, squeeze it as tight as you can and
Speaker 4: don't let nobody take it out. And that's the second
Speaker 4: time he's done it. And both times that's what they
Speaker 4: were talking about. The both times that he fumbled, it
Speaker 4: was a touchdown. After the fumble in Minnesota, the guy
Speaker 4: picked it up, rand it back for a testdown, and
Speaker 4: then in this game he fled run back for a testdown.
Speaker 4: So the Browns just keep having it now.
Speaker 2: The brown scored with fifty six seconds to go in
Speaker 2: the first quarter on Devin Bush's ninety seven yard run
Speaker 2: back on the pick six, and then at the fourteen
Speaker 2: six mark of the second quarter, the Noah Fense fumble
Speaker 2: caused by Jerome Baker, the touchdown maker linebacker, and then
Speaker 2: Sam Webb scooped it up, it took it to the
Speaker 2: house forty seven yards and just like that, it's fourteen
Speaker 2: to six and the Bengals are fighting from behind.
Speaker 4: And when that's when we said this was a strange game.
Speaker 4: Very I looked at the emotion on the sideline, I
Speaker 4: heard the emotion up in the press box. It was
Speaker 4: very quiet, like no one was prepared or ready to
Speaker 4: play football than had really bad happen, which they did.
Speaker 4: Because two touchdowns gives the Browns fourteen points in their
Speaker 4: offense don't even have fourteen yards of offense and I'm thinking,
Speaker 4: this is a very weird game. When are we gonna
Speaker 4: get out of this funk? When are we gonna get
Speaker 4: out of this cloud? And we never got out of
Speaker 4: it until the last touchdown that we scored to put
Speaker 4: us up ahead, and then we were still in the
Speaker 4: cloud from our team, but we never really developed any
Speaker 4: kind of momentum in this football game at all.
Speaker 2: So early on the quick turnaround there, the Bengals are
Speaker 2: getting ready to go in and maybe go up thirteen
Speaker 2: to nothing. Yeah, that was the Guilty Windows window of
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Speaker 2: And there was another one, that window of opportunity when
Speaker 2: that Bengals did take the lead and weren't able to
Speaker 2: stop the Browns on that final ten play forty yard
Speaker 2: drive that set up Andre Schmidt with the forty nine
Speaker 2: yard field goal.
Speaker 4: You know, we talked about, you know, cognunity, the cognunity,
Speaker 4: you know, the closeness of this team. When we scored
Speaker 4: that touchdown to go ahead. It would be nice because
Speaker 4: I've seen this happen before, especially on when I played
Speaker 4: on the teams the offense scored a touchdown Boomers. Sisin
Speaker 4: came in the defensive huddle before we ran out and
Speaker 4: gave us a little pep talk. Yes, like, okay, I
Speaker 4: put the ball in your hand down to win the game,
Speaker 4: don't let me down. Now, how many of those conversations
Speaker 4: do they have on this team. I'm not saying Joe
Speaker 4: Burrow go to the defensive huddle and say, hey, listen,
Speaker 4: it's time to clamp it up, shut them up, and
Speaker 4: get it done. But there's got to be somebody defensively, offensively,
Speaker 4: special teams coach that listen, it's in your hand. Now,
Speaker 4: take care of your business. Let's get off the field,
Speaker 4: Let's go home and have a good time. Let's go
Speaker 4: to the locker room and celebrate. But you got to
Speaker 4: take care of business. Does that happen? Someone text me
Speaker 4: and said, whatever happened to the no huddle offense? Like
Speaker 4: sense of urgency on offense? Yeah, we don't really have
Speaker 4: that sense of urgency on offense. I'm not saying that
Speaker 4: the offensive guys don't do it. But you see the
Speaker 4: Browns when they came out the second half. The Browns
Speaker 4: started the second half with running the football. Yes, no
Speaker 4: huddle trying to put the Bengals on the heels and
Speaker 4: trying to get them tired and wear them out. And
Speaker 4: what happened in that third court that first drive, the
Speaker 4: Browns went down the field. I don't think they scored,
Speaker 4: but they went down the field. They moved the ball
Speaker 4: a little bit. But you know what he was doing
Speaker 4: to the Bengals. It had the Bengals changing defensive players
Speaker 4: because they were getting tired. And when you do that, man,
Speaker 4: you have a sense of urgent. See someone text me
Speaker 4: and said, the difference between today's game and any other
Speaker 4: game was was there a sense of urgency on offense
Speaker 4: to attack the Cleveland Browns.
Speaker 2: And the Browns did score on that first drive that chewed.
Speaker 4: Up seven minutes.
Speaker 2: Think about it, twelve plays, fifty six yards and Schmidt
Speaker 2: kicked a twenty seven yard field goal to make it
Speaker 2: seventeen to twelve.
Speaker 4: But think about that, though that drive took seven minutes long,
Speaker 4: and of that drive, if it was how many plays
Speaker 4: twelve places, twelve plays, I tell you seven or eight
Speaker 4: of those plays were come to the line of scrimmage
Speaker 4: and let's go. And then in our case, when the Bengals,
Speaker 4: we call it, we called her set alert, set alert.
Speaker 4: Boomer will get up there, real quick, set alert, and
Speaker 4: the guys get ready to go, and the defense starts
Speaker 4: falling on the ground because he's trying to slow us down.
Speaker 4: You know what, That's what the Browns did at that
Speaker 4: first drive. Where's the sense of urgency of attacking the
Speaker 4: Cleveland Browns instead of letting them sit back there and
Speaker 4: make calls.
Speaker 2: And when you mentioned Boomer, it brings back a bad
Speaker 2: memory of nineteen ninety seven, my first full year on
Speaker 2: the beat in Philadelphia.
Speaker 3: Yeh.
Speaker 2: Boomer led the team to a four and one finish
Speaker 2: that year, and the one loss in November was in
Speaker 2: Philly after Brian Milne scored a touchdown and Bobby hoyingg
Speaker 2: hit Irving Fryar marched them down and Chris Boniol hit
Speaker 2: it at thirty one yard field goal at the gun,
Speaker 2: and Boomer threw his helmet in the locker room at
Speaker 2: the defense and said, you guys don't deserve your paychecks.
Speaker 4: I'm telling you, man, they that. How many people are
Speaker 4: saying that today? How many players are saying that today?
Speaker 4: I don't know. I'm not in the locker room. I'm
Speaker 4: not saying trying to start a feud or whatnot. But
Speaker 4: you know, as if I was a defensive guy and
Speaker 4: my offensive team was struggling on scoring, I'm gonna go
Speaker 4: say something to him, not negative. Come on, man, we
Speaker 4: worked hard this week. We worked hard on Wednesday beating
Speaker 4: each other up. Let's go out there and get this
Speaker 4: thing done. Let's bring this thing home them sixty eight
Speaker 4: thousand people that are screaming right now. Who's who pays
Speaker 4: part of our salary? They deserve better than what we're
Speaker 4: giving them. They know what it all change. Love it.
Speaker 2: Let's go out to the phones. Do we have Donald
Speaker 2: in Nashville still on the line.
Speaker 10: Hey Donald, Hey guys, how you doing good?
Speaker 3: Man?
Speaker 10: Good? I always love hearing you two guys talk.
Speaker 5: Man.
Speaker 20: Sure's it's a good good night on a bad day,
Speaker 20: I can tell you that. But uh, but uh, you
Speaker 20: guys are saying all the things I was calling about.
Speaker 20: One of the thing I was calling about is who's
Speaker 20: holding these people accountable for these in the states they
Speaker 20: continue to make I mean, even Joe Joe Burrow, it
Speaker 20: is like how many reachs in the road and if he
Speaker 20: throwing the pick sick or intercession that cost us the game?
Speaker 10: And no one's no one's hold him accountable. I want
Speaker 10: to hear them about the office in the line or
Speaker 10: the deeples to do this.
Speaker 3: The quarterback is is.
Speaker 10: Just throwing with state. You gotta stop that. I'm sorry,
Speaker 10: We're paying them too much money for us to be
Speaker 10: losing games.
Speaker 2: On pick six, I'm saying, seventh, seventh career pick six.
Speaker 4: You're right, You're right, And it stopped a.
Speaker 2: Streak of twelve consecutive possessions inside the red zone where
Speaker 2: the Bengals scored touchdowns.
Speaker 4: That was tough. They had twelve possessions.
Speaker 10: Yeah, it's fat. That's the tight end. I mean, you
Speaker 10: said it's so perfectly man, you can learn this warning. Yeah,
Speaker 10: this guy, it's almost I'm scared to catch the ball
Speaker 10: because I feel like hes gonna give it right back
Speaker 10: to you.
Speaker 4: You put they tell us when we were kids and
Speaker 4: Pop Warner, you put two hands on the ball and
Speaker 4: you cover that ball. You grabbed that ball like you're
Speaker 4: holding on to dear life. And they should never take
Speaker 4: that ball away from it if you've got two hands
Speaker 4: on it. And I don't know, I'm telling you, man,
Speaker 4: he he.
Speaker 10: Was my last comment. I mean to catch a big, big,
Speaker 10: full I'm sorry, sir, my last time. My last comment
Speaker 10: is the person who should be holding by account who's
Speaker 10: getting paid the most on the team, quarterback. Okay, So
Speaker 10: the reason why Boomer did that because you know, he
Speaker 10: was getting paid the most of the team.
Speaker 4: He was man, he was a million dollar player on
Speaker 4: the team that only had one guy making a million
Speaker 4: bucks and that was Boomer Sizing. And he opened up
Speaker 4: his mouth and we had a we had a a
Speaker 4: non coaching meeting conversation amongst the team, and when they
Speaker 4: started talking, the first thing we said was, it's not
Speaker 4: on the coaches, y'all, it's on us. And if we
Speaker 4: don't make plays, we don't win. And it changed. We
Speaker 4: did that in eighty seven, the strike year. We talked
Speaker 4: about that and what happened the following year. We go
Speaker 4: to Super Bowl.
Speaker 10: We got Mehadi Biz, we got porches. I mean, look
Speaker 10: at wide receiver. Man, don't get better at what we got.
Speaker 10: We can't get better what we got, And here we
Speaker 10: are playing like we got you know, savetts or a
Speaker 10: picture or something on the side, you know what I mean,
Speaker 10: what the what the crazy?
Speaker 2: We love to have what we got, no doubt, no
Speaker 2: doubt Heydonald, You've got it.
Speaker 4: Take a break.
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Speaker 2: This is Chick Ludwig seven hundred WLW in Cincinnati's ESPN
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Speaker 2: today and then what the future holds. Let's go out
Speaker 2: to the phones. Matt in Springfield.
Speaker 18: Are you there, Matt, Hey, what's going on? Chicken and
Speaker 18: enjoy listening to y'all.
Speaker 2: Man, you all right appreciate it, say it that it's
Speaker 2: coming with.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, last show the man.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I knew though. My cousin who's a Browns fan, man,
Speaker 3: he went with me, and I knew.
Speaker 18: I even told him, you know, when the time was
Speaker 18: that much time up from the clock, I told him
Speaker 18: I was like, watch, you all are going to get
Speaker 18: into the range. You're gonna kick the game, winnings will
Speaker 18: go and you're gonna be He was even telling me too,
Speaker 18: because he knows how the Browns have put him down.
Speaker 18: He's like, Oh no, that's not gonna happen, you know,
Speaker 18: because the way it's been going for us. But it's
Speaker 18: just been the tail all season long with this team. Man,
Speaker 18: it's coming up short.
Speaker 3: Every time. It's like they get they getting range to.
Speaker 18: Win, they leave too much time on the clock, and
Speaker 18: every single time the defense does something to let the
Speaker 18: team down. Every single time. It's been that way since
Speaker 18: the Jets game, Bears game, I mean too many games
Speaker 18: the list. So it's just the same story to.
Speaker 3: A very dreadful season.
Speaker 18: At the end of the day, though, I mean, we're
Speaker 18: picking what tenth now because the Chiefs won, So let's
Speaker 18: hope they can at least draft somebody that you know,
Speaker 18: can potentially be a playmaker. But I am getting nervous
Speaker 18: though with Burrows comments. Man after the game, Man, I
Speaker 18: hope he doesn't try to do uh a old you know,
Speaker 18: Chrison Palmer and forced his way out of town. I mean,
Speaker 18: I wouldn't blame him if that was to happen with
Speaker 18: this the way this franchise has let him down on
Speaker 18: the you know, with the defensive side of the ball,
Speaker 18: and he is getting up there in age.
Speaker 3: So I don't know, guys.
Speaker 18: I mean, it was fun though, to go down.
Speaker 3: You know, one last time for the season.
Speaker 18: You know, freezing at that place was act for the
Speaker 18: mac coll has actually surprised how many Browns fanas actually
Speaker 18: traveled there. It sounded like a Browns game. I don't
Speaker 18: know if y'all heard on TV, like a Brown's home game.
Speaker 18: You're a people chanting Miles Garrett after you got that sack.
Speaker 18: Oh wow there.
Speaker 2: I was like, many appreciate the call. Yeah, the Browns
Speaker 2: backers really are a worldwide.
Speaker 4: They follow the follow they really do.
Speaker 2: They're an unbelievable fan base.
Speaker 4: And well, yeah, when Miles Garrett got the sack, it
Speaker 4: did go a little crazy. They were like Miles Garrett.
Speaker 4: They kept saying, they kept saying it, and you know,
Speaker 4: we we knew it was coming. I was hoping that
Speaker 4: it didn't happen, but we knew it was coming. When
Speaker 4: it came, you know, there's really nothing you can say, man,
Speaker 4: You just you know, it's a sack. He got the
Speaker 4: he got the he got the The generosity of the
Speaker 4: fans is letting him know what's going on.
Speaker 2: But the generosity of the officials that let him celebrate.
Speaker 4: Without that that right there, I'm shocked that you know,
Speaker 4: the guys, you know the guys on TV as I'm
Speaker 4: looking at some of these TV screens and I see
Speaker 4: straight handing their group on Fox that nobody is talking about.
Speaker 4: And maybe they have and maybe we didn't see him,
Speaker 4: but nobody's talking about that scenario, that situation. That's because
Speaker 4: he got the sack, doesn't mean that the game is
Speaker 4: supposed to stop that sack live play ball is still going.
Speaker 4: Joe Burrow gets off the ground and the clock is
Speaker 4: supposed to be running for Joe to cut the team
Speaker 4: on the line of scrimma, and they called.
Speaker 2: Time out for the Browns to celebrate.
Speaker 4: That's a fifteen yard penalty. They could they could throw
Speaker 4: extra penalties on that and move the ball down the
Speaker 4: field with the Biggles being into him. Because players left
Speaker 4: the field to go out there and celebrate him. They
Speaker 4: stopped play for no reason. It wasn't fourth down. It
Speaker 4: was a sack and the play clock still runs, and
Speaker 4: the officials stopped the clock and then rewind it after
Speaker 4: everybody got off the field. There's no way, Jack, that's
Speaker 4: both to happen, Unbelievabay, you're exactly right.
Speaker 2: And you wonder if before the game there was any
Speaker 2: understanding that if he gets the sack record there will
Speaker 2: be a celebration.
Speaker 4: Unless the Browns called time out after he gets the sack.
Speaker 4: That we don't know, right, but I don't think it
Speaker 4: was a timeout call, no, because they were just standing
Speaker 4: in The referees were looking everybody's clapping, and then as
Speaker 4: a Brown started getting off the field, they head referee
Speaker 4: backed up and he went like this whind the clock?
Speaker 4: So wait a minute, why did the clock stop?
Speaker 2: And Zach Taylor's reaction to all this what is going
Speaker 2: on here led me to believe that there was no
Speaker 2: understanding that the clock that the game would stop it
Speaker 2: with an officials time out and letting the Cleveland Brown
Speaker 2: sell it.
Speaker 4: So and you made the state the comment earlier about
Speaker 4: Corey Dillon when he got the two hundred and seventy
Speaker 4: five yards wrestling and broke Walter Payton singles game wrestler.
Speaker 4: So the King didn't stop, No, Corey Dillon came to
Speaker 4: the sideline. Everybody's high fiving and they're still playing football
Speaker 4: on the field. I don't get it, man, But you
Speaker 4: know what, don't it only happens the Cincinnadi. I know
Speaker 4: it doesn't happen nobody else. That's exactly.
Speaker 2: Oh, yes, Hey, let's go out to the phones. John
Speaker 2: and Cedarville.
Speaker 6: Hi, John, Hey, let's talk to you and chick.
Speaker 4: Appreciate it, John, we're here.
Speaker 6: Hey, Yeah, how are you guys doing it?
Speaker 4: We're doing okay, hanging in.
Speaker 21: Hey, today's game. I mean, Miles Garrett I mean, hats
Speaker 21: off to him, but but I'm a Bengals fan and
Speaker 21: I really don't give a crap about Miles garrett Ory's record.
Speaker 6: But needs to say. They talked about the celebrations. They
Speaker 6: should have flagged them guys after those touchdowns that run back.
Speaker 4: In that stoop and go oh grabbing, grabbing the crotch.
Speaker 6: It wasn't like they.
Speaker 21: Were doing the gritty or the dagg on crib walk
Speaker 21: or something. I mean, you know, but I mean that
Speaker 21: was funky.
Speaker 2: How about the Los Angeles rams on the blockfield goal
Speaker 2: and the guy returns it and as he's running to
Speaker 2: the end zone. He looks at the sideline and gives
Speaker 2: a peace sign. Yes, he could find eleven thousand dollars.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, and well them two guys that grabbed their crotch. Hey,
Speaker 4: I was up there in the press box.
Speaker 6: What do you What do you guys think about cameo
Speaker 6: Joe Flacco?
Speaker 2: Oh the cameo where he came out and got a
Speaker 2: first down on a quarterbacks?
Speaker 4: The quarterbacks?
Speaker 2: Yea, yeah, I love.
Speaker 6: Plays in both games.
Speaker 22: Is Joe Burrow?
Speaker 6: I'd like to know the stasisitions from this.
Speaker 22: How many batted balls does Joe Burrow have under center
Speaker 22: compared to end the shotguns and if they're if there
Speaker 22: is a significant difference, he needs to stop one or
Speaker 22: the other and quit standing back there like your Doug
Speaker 22: flutyin't getting everything batted back at you or tipped and intercepted.
Speaker 2: Yeah, John appreciate the call as always, there are so
Speaker 2: many issues right now with this club.
Speaker 4: But I was just trying to figure out when I
Speaker 4: heard that this call is being recorded.
Speaker 6: I didn't know Next year they come out.
Speaker 21: Next year they got approve on every dag on play
Speaker 21: starting in mini camp. That why they are the Super
Speaker 21: Bowl champions and go out and play on every single play,
Speaker 21: proven why they are Super Bowl champions.
Speaker 2: Well, it would be nice, John, it would be nice
Speaker 2: if everybody on this franchise showed up for all the OTAs.
Speaker 4: But like they did Super Bowl season.
Speaker 2: Yes, everybody under contract, everybody on site instead of you know,
Speaker 2: bickering about their contracts. So there was a lot of
Speaker 2: a lot of that in the last couple of years. So hey,
Speaker 2: we've got to take a break. I appreciate the call,
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Speaker 2: But there were two Cleveland Browns that really got injured.
Speaker 2: Tyson Campbell cornerback with a shoulder injury. He exited but
Speaker 2: then came back. But Denzel Ward, the outstanding corner he
Speaker 2: had a pick six in his career against Joe Burrow,
Speaker 2: remembered act from a couple of years ago. But Denzel
Speaker 2: Ward went out with a neck injury and did not return.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think there was a few Bengal players that
Speaker 4: would kind of beat up the two corners. Oh and
Speaker 4: Dax Hill dak Hill. Yeah, I think he got hurt
Speaker 4: banged up. I don't know if he came back in
Speaker 4: the game or not, but I know they were talking
Speaker 4: about him on my ride over here, and wasn't I'm
Speaker 4: not sure if it was good or bad, but it
Speaker 4: sounded like the Bengals kind of walked out of there
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Speaker 2: have Jack and Dayton?
Speaker 4: Okay?
Speaker 2: How about Richard and Dayton? All right, gosh, is there
Speaker 2: anybody else left? Danny, I'll tell you what after Bill?
Speaker 2: We got a Bill, Well, we got Bill, I got
Speaker 2: Bill outstanding?
Speaker 4: Hi Bill, Hey.
Speaker 6: Guys, Hey, thanks for taking my call.
Speaker 10: Hey David. Okay, so I saw.
Speaker 14: And was around three of the guys you played with.
Speaker 2: Great guys.
Speaker 17: I'm not going to say their name, but they all
Speaker 17: said the same thing.
Speaker 6: Me and all my buddies.
Speaker 14: Believe that, you know, Zach, Taylor, Tobin and Golden.
Speaker 2: They don't know what they're doing.
Speaker 17: I mean, when you have the kind of roster we have,
Speaker 17: we should be doing better than we're doing, you know.
Speaker 6: And I'm looking at the.
Speaker 17: Bengals thinking to myself, are the Bengals problems.
Speaker 6: Fixable in one year?
Speaker 10: And I don't think so. You know, there's just too.
Speaker 22: Many holes right now.
Speaker 6: The offense is amazing.
Speaker 8: But if we can't stop anybody, you know, what's what's
Speaker 8: our future look like?
Speaker 6: And if Joe Burrow do you know, do I want
Speaker 6: to stay here?
Speaker 2: Well?
Speaker 4: You know, I I you know, some of the things
Speaker 4: you're saying I think is true. But you know, there
Speaker 4: when this is a draft, everybody's picking from the same
Speaker 4: group of players. You know, one guy was in here
Speaker 4: earlier talked about you know, when Patrick Mahomes was drafted,
Speaker 4: we went after another Ross, John Ross Ross, and we
Speaker 4: probably could have Patrick Mahomes. Well I'm really kind of
Speaker 4: glad we didn't get Patrick Mahomes. You know, I just
Speaker 4: you know, he he belongs in Kansas City. Let him
Speaker 4: stay there. But the simple fact that is, if all
Speaker 4: these teams, the thirty two teams are drafting from the
Speaker 4: same pool, they go to the Combine, they go to
Speaker 4: the Senior Games, they look at all these players, and
Speaker 4: how is it that we don't get you know, some
Speaker 4: of the best players being picked in the draft. Well,
Speaker 4: it goes back to your recruiting. You'r a scouting department.
Speaker 4: It goes back to the guy who's running that scouting department.
Speaker 4: I'm not saying Duke Tobin is not the best scout
Speaker 4: or best person for that position, but when you're scouting
Speaker 4: players like everybody else, it's hard to do. It's hard
Speaker 4: to do those things. So when I look back, I go,
Speaker 4: there is a lot of talent on this team. I
Speaker 4: think it's a lot of things that needs to be changed,
Speaker 4: and offensively, defensively, Offensively, I don't know how much more
Speaker 4: you can really do. But add some linemen offensive line,
Speaker 4: they help defensively, you know, pass rush, cover corners, linebackers
Speaker 4: that you know, the linebackers aren't bad. But if I'm
Speaker 4: going to be the guy that's running the scouting department
Speaker 4: or the draft, I'm going to after defense. What do
Speaker 4: they say, Defensive teams win, Defensive teams win championships. Offensive
Speaker 4: team put points on the board. We got an offensive
Speaker 4: team that put points on the board, but our defense
Speaker 4: is suspect. So how do we fix that. We have
Speaker 4: to fix it.
Speaker 10: Well we Yeah, I think we did.
Speaker 17: Okay, I think Miles Murphy looks like he can play
Speaker 17: Jamar Stewart.
Speaker 4: We you know, the jury's still out on him. You know.
Speaker 17: There's a lot of holes on this team, you know,
Speaker 17: and we need to figure that out.
Speaker 6: And they're going to have a lot of cap money.
Speaker 17: They need to figure out a way to spend the
Speaker 17: cap money effective.
Speaker 2: With me and Bill, a lot of decisions need to
Speaker 2: be made too, especially with this class of twenty twenty three.
Speaker 2: Miles Murphy still has what two more years? Really, I
Speaker 2: believe move was that Murphy? Yeah, if they if they
Speaker 2: give him a fifth year.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so he's he's going the second year of his
Speaker 4: rookie contract.
Speaker 2: Yes, now, but DJ Turner, Jordan Battle, Charlie Jones, Chase Brown,
Speaker 2: you definitely want to keep, you know, going into his.
Speaker 4: You got to you gotta go ahead and sign Chase
Speaker 4: Brown now. Don't wait to absolutely, Yeah, you don't want
Speaker 4: Chase Brown in the offseason sitting around not playing preseason
Speaker 4: games because he's waiting on the contract extension. Go ahead
Speaker 4: and do it now, because the kid, the kid can play,
Speaker 4: The kid can.
Speaker 2: Work cam Taylor. Britt is due to be a free
Speaker 2: agent at the end of the year.
Speaker 4: He may not be here. He's hurt and he's coming
Speaker 4: off an injury. He's hurt right now, and so we'll
Speaker 4: figure that one out. But you know, I still think
Speaker 4: they need to go in the draft and go defense,
Speaker 4: you know, because it doesn't hurt to have, you know,
Speaker 4: three defensive tackles, and you know, and all three of
Speaker 4: them about the same. So you really don't lose nothing
Speaker 4: when you lose the first one, second, and third. But
Speaker 4: when you got some depth at those positions, then now
Speaker 4: you can work some things out. You can move people
Speaker 4: around and make some things happen. Because a lot of
Speaker 4: the problems that we have, we can't put pressure on
Speaker 4: the quarterback. That front four or front seven has to
Speaker 4: be better than it has been in the last couple
Speaker 4: of years, and that's what we're struggling, and our dvs
Speaker 4: look bad because the quarterback has all day to stand
Speaker 4: back then and throw the football. So you can put
Speaker 4: anybody that's like white receivers. You got a quarterback like
Speaker 4: Joe Burrow, Tom Brady, it was a quarterback that didn't
Speaker 4: have the big name white receivers but Tom Brady got
Speaker 4: the ball to him.
Speaker 2: The same way with our offense.
Speaker 4: We've got what we need on offense, the weapons, but
Speaker 4: defense it has to be the important part of our
Speaker 4: season for twenty twenty six.
Speaker 5: At Bill, Now, David, do you think now, David, do
Speaker 5: you think if the kid.
Speaker 6: From Ohio State is available that we take him?
Speaker 2: If he's there? Is that downs cale? Is that Caleb down.
Speaker 4: Downs If he's there, I take him. Yes, he's there.
Speaker 4: I'm taking a hardba. I mean, there's no doubt right now.
Speaker 4: Right now, I'm saying the Bengals on the clock right now,
Speaker 4: number one pick for the since day Bengals, the guy
Speaker 4: from Ohio State downs and then from there own we
Speaker 4: just started getting better and better with defense. All right, Bill,
Speaker 4: we got to run appreciate the call.
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Speaker 2: for over twenty years. You know, I'm looking at the
Speaker 2: tackle the defensive statistics here, and it's nice not to
Speaker 2: see all the DB's at the top. Not supposed to
Speaker 2: be like that. Yeah, that's up. So we've got the
Speaker 2: BJ Hill with eight tackles. Cam Sample had the sack
Speaker 2: and the force fumble, and GJ. Slayton was very active
Speaker 2: up along with Miles Murpheet.
Speaker 4: So yes, that's how it's supposed to be. That is
Speaker 4: what your statistics succeeds to be like at the end
Speaker 4: of the game. He shouldn't be a safety a corner
Speaker 4: leading the team in tackles. They're right, because if that
Speaker 4: is what's happening, that means I'm tackling down there ten
Speaker 4: fifty yard down the field. They're getting to the second
Speaker 4: or third level. Well, when you put the pressure on
Speaker 4: your quarterback like we did today on Sanders, the guys
Speaker 4: up front were making plays and they were in his
Speaker 4: face and that's why the game wasn't as big of
Speaker 4: a blowout or big we give up too many points.
Speaker 4: The Bengals defense, a front seven, made plays and made
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Speaker 2: Well outstanding individual efforts you know on offense by the
Speaker 2: Bengals when you think of the Big Three with Joe Burrow,
Speaker 2: T Higgins and Jamar Chase, Jamar Chase going well over
Speaker 2: one thousand yards this year. T Higgins knocking on that door.
Speaker 2: How about Tea with with eleven with eleven is a
Speaker 2: ten or eleven touchdown receptions? I think he's at eleven,
Speaker 2: He's at eleven. And Jamar I believe had eight touchdown
Speaker 2: receptions but well over thirteen hundred yards in receptions.
Speaker 4: And he had almost one hundred and thirty something catches.
Speaker 4: So he leaves the lead again and catches. Yeah, incredible.
Speaker 2: And then how about Chase Brown really blossoming as a
Speaker 2: complete running back and how awesome is it to have
Speaker 2: both him the one two punch of Chase Brown and samij.
Speaker 4: P Ryan tomij p Ryan. Today I said, oh man,
Speaker 4: he's about to get a hundred yards because he was,
Speaker 4: he was picking him up, putting them down. Today, he is,
Speaker 4: he's a battering Rams he said, never left Cincinnati, but
Speaker 4: he went over to Kansas City, tested the water, got
Speaker 4: a Super Bowl and now he's.
Speaker 2: Back Denver for it Denver first, and then Casey Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4: P Ryan, I'm telling you, man, he is. He is
Speaker 4: a force to be record one. He reminds me of
Speaker 4: the old full backs that played when the being when
Speaker 4: in back in the league, when they had a tight end,
Speaker 4: a true tight end and three two wide receivers, a
Speaker 4: full back and tailback. P Ryan's my guy. Oh absolutely,
Speaker 4: I'll go to world with p RN all day. And
Speaker 4: he rashed.
Speaker 2: He rushed for four hundred yards one game, you know,
Speaker 2: the single game NCAA record, I believe in Oklahoma.
Speaker 4: And he has the most rushing yards in Oklahoma football history.
Speaker 4: And they were mixing, was there too? That's right? Yeah,
Speaker 4: p Ryan is the leading russer And they say who
Speaker 4: was p Ryan when they always talk about Joe Mixon
Speaker 4: And p Ryan's the leading has the best rushing record
Speaker 4: or rushing yards in Oklahoma history.
Speaker 2: Just incredible. Well, rock lets up. Let's take a look
Speaker 2: at scores around the National Football League. Big One tonight
Speaker 2: the Ravens at the Steelers, winner take all AFC North champ.
Speaker 4: Who do you like? Oh my gosh, I don't like
Speaker 4: either one of them, idell, but somebody's gotta win. I
Speaker 4: don't know, man, I mean I don't like Pittsburgh. I
Speaker 4: mean I think it's more not liking Pittsburgh than it
Speaker 4: is Baltimore, because Baltimore is a I call him a
Speaker 4: retread tire that used to be the Browns and then
Speaker 4: he become the Ravens. So if I had to say,
Speaker 4: knock somebody out, Pittsburgh, you gotta go home. Amen to that.
Speaker 2: And even if they do lose, Pittsburgh still a nine
Speaker 2: and eight record.
Speaker 4: Mike Tomlin, Mike Tomlin again, he works, he works. I'm
Speaker 4: telling you you can be mad at Mike Tomlin, but
Speaker 4: Mike Tomlin. Them guys play for that dude.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 4: Every time Mike Toman comes to Cincinnati and I'm with
Speaker 4: my uniform compliance and I don't do the visiting team anymore.
Speaker 4: Rodney heat does it now? I do the Bengals only,
Speaker 4: Tom and goes, where's that guy? At thirty three? Wants
Speaker 4: to say hi to me? Yes, he actually said to me, man,
Speaker 4: if if you were playing, I love to have you
Speaker 4: on my team. And I go, Mike, I can't play
Speaker 4: for Pittsburgh, man. Yeah, yeah, I love you, brother, but
Speaker 4: I can't play for Pittsburgh man. Amen to that.
Speaker 2: And how about the Falcons knocking off to Saints today
Speaker 2: nineteen to seventeen, and that catapults the Carolina Panthers to
Speaker 2: win a post game to win the division with an
Speaker 2: eight and nine record.
Speaker 4: Wow, eight and nine and winning your division.
Speaker 2: We almost had it here.
Speaker 4: As a matter of fact, we will because the winning
Speaker 4: team tonight is it ten wins or nine wins? I
Speaker 4: think Pittsburgh and Baltimore both are eight.
Speaker 2: And Ravens are eight and eight. Steelers are nine and seven. Wow,
Speaker 2: So if the Ravens win, there'll be nine and eight
Speaker 2: and AFC North Champs.
Speaker 4: Nine and eight to win the division. Yeah. Incredible, and
Speaker 4: that this this was and you think about this, this
Speaker 4: this was our turn, This was our year. The way
Speaker 4: that the division was beating each other up, this was
Speaker 4: our year. This was ours for the taking.
Speaker 2: And we're running out.
Speaker 4: Of this is our years. Yeah, I mean it's getting
Speaker 4: it's getting old. You're getting tired of saying that these
Speaker 4: guys are getting older. Joe Burrow's he's been getting beat up.
Speaker 4: Joe Burrow is is you know, three spare tires on
Speaker 4: a car that has one good will? Because he's been
Speaker 4: beat up, and he's been beat up. And how much
Speaker 4: longer can he play getting beat up? You can't.
Speaker 2: He can't.
Speaker 4: Joe Burrow cannot play in twenty twenty six and get
Speaker 4: hit and get beat up. He can't. He's got to
Speaker 4: play an injury free a season where he is not
Speaker 4: getting hit and beat up, because if he gets beat up,
Speaker 4: you know, I'm looking at Andrew Luck when Andrew Luck
Speaker 4: left early in Indy. I hate to see that happen
Speaker 4: to this young man, but it could.
Speaker 2: And that's what made last year so frustrated. He played
Speaker 2: the entire year and look at all these records of
Speaker 2: Sushion last year, and we wasted that year on him,
Speaker 2: wasted with a nine to eight record and sitting home.
Speaker 4: You know you throw for four forty five hundred yards,
Speaker 4: you got forty something, almost fifty something touchdowns. Dude, that
Speaker 4: guy is supposed to be playing in postseason. There's no
Speaker 4: offens and butt about it, no doubt.
Speaker 2: Vikings over the Packers sixteen to three. The New York
Speaker 2: Football Giants thirty four to seventeen winners over the Cowboys.
Speaker 2: The Jags absolutely destroyed the Tennessee Titans forty one to seven.
Speaker 2: The Texans go to twelve and five, defeating the Colts.
Speaker 4: Thirty eight to thirty.
Speaker 2: Bills are thirty five to eight winners over the New
Speaker 2: York Jets, the Lions upset the Bears nineteen to sixteen,
Speaker 2: Broncos over the Chargers nineteen to three, and the Chiefs
Speaker 2: fall to the Vegas Las Vegas Raiders fourteen to twelve.
Speaker 4: That's always a good Kansas.
Speaker 2: And the Los Angeles Rams are thirty seven to twenty
Speaker 2: winners over the Arizona Cardinals. Cardinals three and fourteen, unbelievable.
Speaker 4: When they lost Tyler Murray. It's just Kyler. Yes, he
Speaker 4: just went down in Arizona.
Speaker 2: Patriots are thirty eight to ten winners over the Miami Dolphins,
Speaker 2: and the Commanders defeat the Eagles twenty four to seventeen.
Speaker 2: So big game tonight, winner take all. And David, we've
Speaker 2: reached the end of the show. First of all, we
Speaker 2: want to thank all the fans. Oh yeah, who came
Speaker 2: out today, who called.
Speaker 4: In, who called in, Yes, who's stuck with this football
Speaker 4: team over the years, who listened to what we do
Speaker 4: here and we can't ask anything else.
Speaker 2: We appreciate all the loyal listeners. Yes, and on behalf
Speaker 2: of my partner Faux Rock, David Vulture, it's been an honor,
Speaker 2: pleasure and privilege you work with you, Jim Breach and
Speaker 2: Bruce Kazerski and an honorary partner.
Speaker 4: And Tim McGee.
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, yeah, Oh, I've just had a fantastic time.
Speaker 4: Thank you so much.
Speaker 2: And to Mike Mills, our engineer, and our great producers
Speaker 2: back in the Kenwood studios from Lean Tomlinson and Sean
Speaker 2: McMahon and Shoeless Joe Waddell and Danny Gleeson.
Speaker 4: Man, all I can say about this this team right here,
Speaker 4: man is we went undefeated.
Speaker 2: All right, all right, all right, appreciate that we went
Speaker 2: undefeated and until next time. We hope that will be
Speaker 2: next year. Yes, this is the Chickster Chick Ludwig on
Speaker 2: behalf of my partner David Foulcher. Thanks for listening to
Speaker 2: the Tri State Chevy Dealers. Postgame Sports Talk live from
Speaker 2: Wings and Rings Liberty Township were presented by RNL Carriers
Speaker 2: on seven hundred WLW and Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen thirty