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This is Chick Ludwig 0:01:19.840 --> 0:01:24.760 and I'm alongside Bengals legendary strong safety David Fulcher nickname 0:01:25.080 --> 0:01:28.360 faux rock, and we are breaking down the Bengals twenty 0:01:28.400 --> 0:01:32.280 to eighteen loss to the Cleveland Browns in the regular 0:01:32.360 --> 0:01:36.400 season finale for both teams, like a wrecking ball. Mike 0:01:36.480 --> 0:01:40.280 mills Is are awesome on site engineer Shoeless. Joe Waddell 0:01:40.400 --> 0:01:47.760 is producing back in our Kenwood studios. Wings, rings, burgers, sandwiches, salads, appetizers, 0:01:48.000 --> 0:01:51.800 drink specials, Wings and Rings has it all. We're here 0:01:51.840 --> 0:01:55.640 at the Liberty Township location until eight thirty tonight and 0:01:55.720 --> 0:01:58.600 you are invited. And if you can't be here in person, 0:01:59.000 --> 0:02:01.680 join us by calling five, one, three, seven, four, nine, 0:02:01.720 --> 0:02:05.240 seven thousand or one eight hundred the big one. Like 0:02:05.360 --> 0:02:07.600 a wrecking ball, Let's go big, like a wrecking ball, 0:02:07.720 --> 0:02:11.519 Let's go and faux rock. The Bengals lose twenty to eighteen. 0:02:12.040 --> 0:02:16.760 That's two points. Yes, they give up two defensive touchdowns, yes. 0:02:17.080 --> 0:02:19.959 Evan McPherson misses two extra point ticks. 0:02:20.040 --> 0:02:20.239 Yes. 0:02:20.919 --> 0:02:25.519 And what hurts is the most that two rookies quarterbacks 0:02:25.560 --> 0:02:30.720 should Durre Sanders and place kicker Andre Smitt. And of 0:02:30.760 --> 0:02:36.440 course the veteran Miles Garrett helps beat the Bengals today. Man, 0:02:36.520 --> 0:02:37.960 I'm upset, you. 0:02:37.880 --> 0:02:39.720 Know, It's funny how you say this. I'm like, I 0:02:39.760 --> 0:02:42.320 hear all these. You know, we miss two field goals, 0:02:42.840 --> 0:02:47.280 we give up two touchdowns on offense, and then we 0:02:47.320 --> 0:02:49.919 lose by two. We should have played the numbers to 0:02:50.120 --> 0:02:54.240 two because we might win. The team didn't, but it 0:02:54.320 --> 0:02:54.760 was ugly. 0:02:55.080 --> 0:02:58.760 It was and Rock instead of a sweep, the Bengals 0:02:58.840 --> 0:03:01.080 have to settle for a split. Yeah, but there is 0:03:01.120 --> 0:03:04.240 a silver lining that all the folks out there want 0:03:04.240 --> 0:03:07.639 to know about. They've been rooting for it. The updated 0:03:07.760 --> 0:03:11.359 draft order has the Bengals selecting ninth with a six 0:03:11.520 --> 0:03:16.080 and eleven record instead of eleventh. Yes or lower. 0:03:16.240 --> 0:03:18.600 Yes, So that's the silver liner. 0:03:18.720 --> 0:03:22.840 But the Bengals defense Rock allowed only two field goals 0:03:22.840 --> 0:03:27.800 today the entire game. The defense was strong for fifty 0:03:27.840 --> 0:03:31.600 eight minutes and thirty one seconds, but it yielded a 0:03:31.760 --> 0:03:35.880 ten play forty yard drive the final one twenty nine 0:03:36.240 --> 0:03:40.119 after the Bengals scored and went ahead, and kicker Andre 0:03:40.400 --> 0:03:44.280 smit the goat Week one when he missed an extra 0:03:44.360 --> 0:03:48.760 point and a field goal, crushed the forty nine yard 0:03:48.800 --> 0:03:51.880 field goal at the gun for the walk off win. 0:03:52.200 --> 0:03:54.520 Just think about this. We talk about this football team 0:03:54.560 --> 0:03:58.200 and how the defense don't make the plays, the offense 0:03:58.200 --> 0:04:02.040 scores forty points and we wind up losing to forty. Today, 0:04:02.080 --> 0:04:04.680 the defense played their butts off and then we gave 0:04:04.760 --> 0:04:07.400 up fourteen twelve points in a sense, or kicked the 0:04:07.400 --> 0:04:10.760 field goal fourteen points on the offensive side of the ball. 0:04:10.800 --> 0:04:14.920 So once again, when they are working on all cylinders, 0:04:14.920 --> 0:04:19.279 that means offense, defensive, special teams are working together in sink, 0:04:20.160 --> 0:04:27.000 you're gonna win football games. And today offense defense, yes, offense, 0:04:27.080 --> 0:04:30.599 no special teams know, and guess what happens, we lose 0:04:30.600 --> 0:04:30.920 the game. 0:04:32.240 --> 0:04:36.000 Jim Schwartz, the defensive coordinator at the Cleveland Browns, he's due. 0:04:36.200 --> 0:04:37.400 I think you'll agree with me. 0:04:37.520 --> 0:04:41.159 Rock. He belongs as a head football coach in the 0:04:41.240 --> 0:04:43.880 National Football League. Once upon a time, he was with 0:04:43.960 --> 0:04:45.640 the Detroit Lions for five years. 0:04:45.760 --> 0:04:46.760 Yes, but he is. 0:04:46.720 --> 0:04:50.120 One of the best defensive coordinators in all of the 0:04:50.120 --> 0:04:53.479 foot all of football. And he's got Zach Taylor's number, 0:04:53.600 --> 0:04:56.920 Yes he does. He's got the Bengals number. Even though 0:04:56.920 --> 0:05:00.320 the Bengals one opening week man it was ugly low 0:05:00.400 --> 0:05:05.160 scoring and if Andre Schmid had kicked a field goal, 0:05:05.600 --> 0:05:07.679 the Browns would have won Week one. 0:05:08.360 --> 0:05:10.480 The Bengals could have got swept by the Browns. They 0:05:10.520 --> 0:05:13.040 probably they should have. The first game they should have lost, yes, 0:05:13.600 --> 0:05:16.280 but they didn't because of the missfield goals. Today's game, 0:05:16.720 --> 0:05:19.599 if the offense would do what they've been doing for 0:05:19.640 --> 0:05:22.400 the last couple of weeks, they could have ran Cleveland 0:05:22.520 --> 0:05:23.520 right out of Cincinnati. 0:05:24.960 --> 0:05:27.480 We're on the the Bengals are on the door staff 0:05:28.120 --> 0:05:32.719 to take a two touchdown lead, but a tipped pass 0:05:34.080 --> 0:05:38.920 and then a ninety seven yard interception return picked six 0:05:39.720 --> 0:05:44.080 started the ball rolling. All of a sudden, the Browns 0:05:44.080 --> 0:05:48.640 are up seven to six, and then before you could 0:05:48.640 --> 0:05:51.640 go to the refrigerator from your living room. 0:05:52.040 --> 0:05:58.320 It's fourteen to six. Another of fumbles. He's done that 0:05:58.320 --> 0:06:02.400 twice this year. Man sold a game. This game rock. 0:06:02.760 --> 0:06:06.480 The Bengals have their big three on the field, Joe Burrow, 0:06:07.320 --> 0:06:11.200 Jamar Chase t Higgins and ed Chase Brown did the mix. 0:06:12.200 --> 0:06:13.719 They shouldn't lose to the Browns. 0:06:13.760 --> 0:06:16.520 No, they should with those studs on the field. And 0:06:16.560 --> 0:06:21.720 the Browns offense is really brutal. They're bad. They're not 0:06:21.760 --> 0:06:25.280 that good at all. And we offensively, we let the 0:06:25.360 --> 0:06:29.000 offensive team of the Cleveland Browns hang around for them 0:06:29.040 --> 0:06:30.680 to get what they did at the end of the game. 0:06:31.120 --> 0:06:32.960 We should have blown the Cleveland Browns right out of 0:06:32.960 --> 0:06:34.839 that stadium and none of that stuff that happened at 0:06:34.839 --> 0:06:38.800 the end should have ever happened. I want to read 0:06:38.920 --> 0:06:40.119 you rock. 0:06:40.680 --> 0:06:47.520 The stats at halftime, ugly, Bengals are trailing fourteen to twelve. 0:06:48.640 --> 0:06:51.479 The Bengals lead in first downs fourteen to two. 0:06:51.839 --> 0:06:52.200 Wow. 0:06:52.720 --> 0:06:56.000 They lead in the number of plays thirty eight to eighteen. 0:06:56.960 --> 0:06:58.320 They lead in total. 0:06:58.120 --> 0:07:04.000 Yards to thirty one forty wow yards per play. Bengals 0:07:04.120 --> 0:07:09.120 lead six point one to two point two, passing yards 0:07:09.360 --> 0:07:14.000 one twenty seven to twenty six, and rushing yards one 0:07:14.080 --> 0:07:18.800 oh four to fourteen. Time of possession twenty one minutes 0:07:18.840 --> 0:07:22.080 thirty one seconds to the Browns eight minutes and twenty 0:07:22.160 --> 0:07:24.320 nine seconds. And what's happening. 0:07:24.680 --> 0:07:27.920 It just goes Bengals are traveling. It just goes to 0:07:28.000 --> 0:07:33.360 show chick, stats don't mean nothing. Stats don't mean nothing. 0:07:33.520 --> 0:07:35.920 Is the number of the points that are on that board. 0:07:35.960 --> 0:07:40.480 And that's why this is an embarrassing loss, because you 0:07:40.600 --> 0:07:46.040 dominated every phase of the game outside of turnovers. You 0:07:46.040 --> 0:07:47.880 should have won this football game hands down. 0:07:48.840 --> 0:07:53.360 And even though this rivalry, this Battle of Ohio, that 0:07:53.520 --> 0:07:58.120 was a split this year, even though both teams. 0:07:57.840 --> 0:08:01.360 Have losing records. Yes, it was a good one. 0:08:01.400 --> 0:08:06.200 Brown's five and twelve Bengals six and eleven. It still matters. 0:08:06.360 --> 0:08:08.960 It does to the Browns family. It does man and 0:08:09.120 --> 0:08:11.640 to Paul Brown he's in his grave spin it. 0:08:11.880 --> 0:08:14.400 Let me tell you when we played Cleveland many many 0:08:14.480 --> 0:08:16.920 years ago, when Paul Brown was there, he used to 0:08:16.960 --> 0:08:21.480 tell us, you need to sleep in the basement, you 0:08:21.520 --> 0:08:24.640 need to stay away from your family because it's Brown's 0:08:24.640 --> 0:08:27.920 week or it's Steeler week. Yes, and let me tell 0:08:27.960 --> 0:08:30.440 you he didn't care about nothing. 0:08:30.480 --> 0:08:30.800 He didn't. 0:08:30.840 --> 0:08:36.120 He wouldn't even let reporters come into the facility at 0:08:36.280 --> 0:08:40.199 spending Spennyfield. There you go, Spennyfield. He wouldn't let reporters 0:08:40.200 --> 0:08:44.240 come in and talk to us until we finished practice 0:08:44.440 --> 0:08:48.520 at three o'clock in the afternoon. Wow, because it wasn't 0:08:48.559 --> 0:08:51.360 about nothing but beating the Cleveland Browns. 0:08:51.400 --> 0:08:52.079 And you know what. 0:08:53.679 --> 0:08:57.160 Today, You know, I don't know if I can't say 0:08:57.200 --> 0:08:59.679 Cleveland beat the team Cincinnati Bengals today, I think that 0:08:59.760 --> 0:09:01.920 since they Bengals beat themselves today. 0:09:02.800 --> 0:09:05.280 Before we go out to the phones and take our 0:09:05.320 --> 0:09:08.840 first break, I want to lay this on you faux rock. 0:09:09.200 --> 0:09:14.440 David Foulcher, all Pro strong safety, the biggest strong safety 0:09:14.440 --> 0:09:16.199 in the league at the time, six foot. 0:09:15.960 --> 0:09:19.000 Three, thirty eight and forty pounds. There you go. 0:09:19.040 --> 0:09:20.839 They don't make them like that no more. Jick on 0:09:21.000 --> 0:09:25.560 pregame Sports Talk Today Live from the Holy Grail with 0:09:25.760 --> 0:09:32.359 Ken Brew, Tony Pike, and Moeger, the paramount sports handicapper, 0:09:32.440 --> 0:09:37.840 came on yes and predicted let us to believe, yes, 0:09:38.640 --> 0:09:43.880 that today's game is Joe Burrow's last game is a 0:09:44.000 --> 0:09:45.120 Cincinnati Bengal. 0:09:47.280 --> 0:09:47.600 Wow. 0:09:47.800 --> 0:09:51.080 We will address this after the break, Yes, and we 0:09:51.120 --> 0:09:53.520 will take your calls. We are fired up. We are 0:09:53.640 --> 0:09:56.360 fired up today, are fired up. We are at Wings 0:09:56.360 --> 0:10:03.680 and Rings Liberty Township right near Lakota. East East is 0:10:03.920 --> 0:10:07.440 Beast and we are here at Wings and Rings Liberty Township. 0:10:07.480 --> 0:10:10.800 Come on out sixty nine sixty three South Liberty Drive. 0:10:11.480 --> 0:10:15.600 He's David Folcher. This is Chick Ludwig. You're listening to 0:10:15.640 --> 0:10:21.080 Bengals postgame sports Talk on seven hundred WLW and Cincinnati's 0:10:21.280 --> 0:10:26.720 ESPN fifteen thirty. You're listening to the Tri State Chevy 0:10:26.720 --> 0:10:31.559 Dealers postgame Sports Talk presented by RNL Carriers. We are 0:10:31.679 --> 0:10:34.920 live at Wings and rings Liberty Township. He's David Folter. 0:10:35.080 --> 0:10:37.280 This is Chick Ludwig. And before we go out to 0:10:37.320 --> 0:10:40.160 the phones rock, what do you think of that prediction 0:10:40.280 --> 0:10:44.559 by the handicapper from Paramount sports Man, which today's last 0:10:44.600 --> 0:10:47.480 game Joe Burrows in a Bengals uniform. 0:10:48.000 --> 0:10:51.040 I just hope he's wrong. Me too, you know, talking 0:10:51.080 --> 0:10:55.040 to Jimmy Burrow, Joe is just upset like anybody else's 0:10:55.120 --> 0:10:57.319 upset because they're not winning. He just wants to win. 0:10:58.040 --> 0:11:00.000 And you know, the last two to three weeks he's 0:11:00.080 --> 0:11:04.080 been playing pretty well, come back from an injury. But 0:11:04.480 --> 0:11:08.400 for him to leave until I see it, I don't 0:11:08.400 --> 0:11:10.440 believe it. I don't believe it. And I hope that 0:11:11.440 --> 0:11:16.600 something happens dramatically during this offseason where things will get 0:11:16.679 --> 0:11:19.640 better for him and this football team. We talked about 0:11:19.679 --> 0:11:21.400 it a little bit on the out before we got 0:11:21.400 --> 0:11:23.400 on the air, about what I would do if I 0:11:23.480 --> 0:11:25.360 was the Bengals when they come to draft. And I'll 0:11:25.400 --> 0:11:27.480 talk about that as we go on. But yes, this 0:11:29.440 --> 0:11:32.400 is heartbreaking to hear that, and hopefully it's not true. 0:11:32.640 --> 0:11:36.400 The whole thrust today, when the game ends, it's not 0:11:36.600 --> 0:11:40.360 dissecting this game. It's looking forward. Yes, it's looking this 0:11:40.400 --> 0:11:41.680 is the last game of the season. 0:11:41.679 --> 0:11:43.040 Your team is six and eleven. 0:11:43.240 --> 0:11:46.480 Yeah, what can you do to improve going into next 0:11:46.559 --> 0:11:49.720 year to make sure this doesn't happen for a fourth 0:11:49.720 --> 0:11:54.360 straight year, three straight years without the playoffs. Joe Burrow's upset. 0:11:54.920 --> 0:11:58.000 The whole organization should be and they've got to get 0:11:58.000 --> 0:12:01.640 this thing fixed. And we heard Joe after the game say, hey, 0:12:02.200 --> 0:12:04.360 we're not where we want to be. We're not where 0:12:04.400 --> 0:12:07.360 we expect to be. And things got to get fixed 0:12:07.600 --> 0:12:09.280 and things got to improve. 0:12:09.400 --> 0:12:12.640 And those are politically correct answers and things that he says, 0:12:12.880 --> 0:12:16.199 because nobody wants to be six and ten, six and eleven, 0:12:16.280 --> 0:12:19.280 five and twelve sitting at home watching everybody else play. 0:12:19.559 --> 0:12:23.320 When you've got the offensive firepower that the Cincinnati Bengals have, 0:12:23.840 --> 0:12:26.679 they should be in the playoffs every year, whether they 0:12:26.720 --> 0:12:28.600 get to the super Bowl or not. With that offense, 0:12:28.920 --> 0:12:32.040 they should be playing for championships every year. And here 0:12:32.040 --> 0:12:34.920 we are again, three years out and no playoffs. 0:12:35.160 --> 0:12:38.640 Fourteen of the thirty two teams are in the playoffs 0:12:38.760 --> 0:12:40.000 in the Bengals aren't one of them. 0:12:40.040 --> 0:12:43.360 No's just too much talent on offense, too many good 0:12:43.400 --> 0:12:47.760 things that the city deserves too many good things that 0:12:47.800 --> 0:12:51.480 this football team deserves and for so long that we 0:12:51.600 --> 0:12:55.720 are dying. We are thirsty for Super Bowl. 0:12:56.480 --> 0:12:59.240 Let's go out to the phones, Pat and Redding, are 0:12:59.280 --> 0:13:02.560 you there? Yes, I am Pat. 0:13:02.640 --> 0:13:05.240 I want to talk about the reasons that we lost 0:13:05.320 --> 0:13:09.680 this game. First, the extra point is lost, then when 0:13:09.679 --> 0:13:13.320 we scored again, we refuse to go for two, and 0:13:13.360 --> 0:13:16.440 then he missed extra point anyway. 0:13:16.280 --> 0:13:20.920 Yeaheah, Well I applaud, I applaud that decision because you 0:13:21.000 --> 0:13:24.160 do not go for two unless you have to, so 0:13:24.760 --> 0:13:27.240 pull within one plenty of time left. 0:13:27.840 --> 0:13:29.480 I don't go for two there. Yeah, I wouldn't go 0:13:29.520 --> 0:13:31.480 for two either, but you still got to make the kick. 0:13:32.160 --> 0:13:33.080 You got to make the kick. 0:13:33.960 --> 0:13:36.720 But we but yeah, you know we can get away 0:13:36.760 --> 0:13:40.199 with that stuff when we're playing Miami or Arizona. 0:13:40.480 --> 0:13:42.319 But we know it's going to be a close game. 0:13:42.760 --> 0:13:43.559 So I don't know. 0:13:44.360 --> 0:13:45.000 Pick six. 0:13:45.520 --> 0:13:50.320 Does anybody know what the number of Joe's interceptions are 0:13:51.480 --> 0:13:53.880 related to the number of pick six he. 0:13:53.800 --> 0:13:58.360 Has this year? 0:13:59.280 --> 0:14:02.760 And I think this seventh the seventh career picked six. 0:14:02.600 --> 0:14:03.240 Of his career. 0:14:03.400 --> 0:14:07.560 Yeah, seventh, and five of them were this year or what? 0:14:08.040 --> 0:14:11.800 No, no, he's got I think he's only half. I 0:14:11.840 --> 0:14:14.000 think he's got two of three this year, two or 0:14:14.040 --> 0:14:15.800 three this year, and he's got pick six. 0:14:16.440 --> 0:14:16.840 All right. 0:14:17.040 --> 0:14:19.720 And then the fumble that was run back. How many 0:14:19.880 --> 0:14:22.520 times have we fumbled the ball and then they pick 0:14:22.600 --> 0:14:23.920 it up and run it back? 0:14:24.280 --> 0:14:24.480 Yes? 0:14:24.920 --> 0:14:25.960 That amazing? 0:14:27.760 --> 0:14:32.600 Hey, nice knowing you, Noah, thank you for your contribution 0:14:32.800 --> 0:14:33.240 this year. 0:14:34.320 --> 0:14:36.080 See you later, pink slip. 0:14:36.080 --> 0:14:38.400 Wish you well, let the door hit you in the 0:14:38.400 --> 0:14:40.880 butt on the way out. I wish I wish you wild. 0:14:41.000 --> 0:14:42.320 Noah, you fumbled. 0:14:42.360 --> 0:14:47.000 You fumbled twice this year at critical times. And another 0:14:47.080 --> 0:14:52.040 false start, which is our the Bengals m on offense. 0:14:52.320 --> 0:14:53.080 False start A. 0:14:54.720 --> 0:14:58.920 Cool Then what did almost every Bengal fan say when 0:14:58.960 --> 0:14:59.960 we scored our fine? 0:15:00.080 --> 0:15:00.800 No touchdown? 0:15:01.160 --> 0:15:01.720 Too much time? 0:15:02.880 --> 0:15:06.800 Why didn't we run the ball and take some time. 0:15:06.720 --> 0:15:07.560 Off the clock? 0:15:07.680 --> 0:15:07.880 Now? 0:15:07.920 --> 0:15:09.080 I know they had. 0:15:09.560 --> 0:15:13.480 Time outs left, but made some use there, don't I 0:15:13.520 --> 0:15:14.280 don't get that? 0:15:14.640 --> 0:15:18.360 You know you know what, Pat, Pat I I kind 0:15:18.360 --> 0:15:21.560 of agree with you on this As far as clock management. 0:15:21.600 --> 0:15:24.720 We talked about that throughout the years that Zach Taylor's 0:15:24.720 --> 0:15:27.440 been here. But and you were in a sense of 0:15:27.520 --> 0:15:30.200 urgency to score, you had to put the ball in 0:15:30.240 --> 0:15:32.640 the end zone, hoping that your defense and the defense 0:15:32.720 --> 0:15:36.080 was playing well all all weekend and I'm sorry all games, 0:15:36.600 --> 0:15:40.160 but yet they're giving them too much time. Sometimes you 0:15:40.360 --> 0:15:43.960 you have to you have to bite the bullet you 0:15:44.000 --> 0:15:45.840 want to score to win the game, and then force 0:15:45.920 --> 0:15:47.720 them to come and beat you. And that's what they did. 0:15:47.760 --> 0:15:49.400 They came back and they beat us. 0:15:49.960 --> 0:15:51.960 But and I knew I knew that was going to 0:15:52.040 --> 0:15:55.720 happen too, because here's the story with our defense. Even 0:15:56.080 --> 0:15:59.520 if they probably said in the postgame show, oh, but 0:15:59.600 --> 0:16:03.560 the defense has played so well. No, they played so 0:16:03.760 --> 0:16:06.520 well until it really mattered. 0:16:06.800 --> 0:16:16.480 Yeah, absolutely, Yeah, Well, gods, they don't play well. And 0:16:16.560 --> 0:16:22.280 they let a rookie Insadure Sanders, uh, you know, continue 0:16:22.320 --> 0:16:25.000 to launch his career like they did with Caleb Williams 0:16:25.000 --> 0:16:26.800 in the second year earlier this year. 0:16:27.000 --> 0:16:28.840 So if it's a journeyman. 0:16:28.440 --> 0:16:32.920 Quarterback, if it's a rookie, the Bengals are launching their career. Man, 0:16:32.960 --> 0:16:33.760 I'm getting. 0:16:33.480 --> 0:16:33.960 Sick of that. 0:16:35.360 --> 0:16:40.200 Yes, And then ability inability to make two point conversions 0:16:40.280 --> 0:16:44.320 cost us last year against Baltimore taught this this this 0:16:44.480 --> 0:16:49.000 game because if they would have have done the field goal, 0:16:49.000 --> 0:16:50.800 it would have just been a tie and we could 0:16:50.840 --> 0:16:52.160 have taken it to overtime. 0:16:52.680 --> 0:16:56.640 It's very hard to it's two point conversions are very 0:16:56.640 --> 0:16:59.160 hard to doe. Yes, I mean, you know, you practice, 0:16:59.240 --> 0:17:02.600 you practice. I don't know if you've practiced two point conversions. 0:17:02.600 --> 0:17:06.320 You practice short yardage plays. But to have a two 0:17:06.359 --> 0:17:09.040 point conversion, I like to look at the record of 0:17:09.600 --> 0:17:13.639 how many successful two point conversions have been made on 0:17:13.720 --> 0:17:16.640 the ones that they have attempted to make. I think 0:17:16.680 --> 0:17:21.280 it's a very low percentages. All right, Pat, thank you, Pat? 0:17:20.880 --> 0:17:21.160 Pat? 0:17:21.520 --> 0:17:24.280 All right? Do we have Bryce and Anderson? 0:17:26.600 --> 0:17:26.760 Oh? 0:17:26.800 --> 0:17:27.360 Yes, you do? 0:17:27.680 --> 0:17:28.200 Hi? Bryce? 0:17:30.160 --> 0:17:30.479 Uh Hi? 0:17:30.720 --> 0:17:33.639 I mean the Bengals just dominated almost every stat line 0:17:33.840 --> 0:17:35.439 in this game, but they came up short, and the 0:17:35.480 --> 0:17:36.600 biggest stat of them. 0:17:36.440 --> 0:17:38.119 Always to turnover battle. 0:17:38.320 --> 0:17:42.280 You're right, Is there anything more meaningless than time of possession? 0:17:42.840 --> 0:17:43.800 Yeah? You do want it? 0:17:43.880 --> 0:17:46.639 You want to dominate that at the Bengals did. 0:17:46.640 --> 0:17:49.280 At the end of the game. Tick, when the lights go, 0:17:50.040 --> 0:17:53.320 the thing goes zero zero zero. Yes, it's who won 0:17:53.400 --> 0:17:55.879 the game, that's it. And you could win the game 0:17:56.480 --> 0:18:00.199 with less yardage than anybody else. It's just at the 0:18:00.240 --> 0:18:03.960 time of this game, what really mattered was that last 0:18:04.000 --> 0:18:07.520 possession that Cleveland had. Could the defense come up and 0:18:07.520 --> 0:18:09.720 make a play to send him home? And we could 0:18:09.760 --> 0:18:11.280 not make a play. That's it. 0:18:12.760 --> 0:18:12.960 Yeah. 0:18:12.960 --> 0:18:15.400 And if joebers three losses this season, he has thrown 0:18:15.440 --> 0:18:17.920 a pick six in every single loss. 0:18:18.200 --> 0:18:20.800 And he finished five five and three in his eight games. 0:18:20.920 --> 0:18:24.240 Five and three is his record in eight games. And yeah, 0:18:24.320 --> 0:18:27.600 you're right, Bryce, always good hearing from you. 0:18:27.600 --> 0:18:29.720 Man, Thank you. 0:18:29.640 --> 0:18:30.800 You have a great record of the night. 0:18:31.200 --> 0:18:32.960 Thank you do the same, yes, sir. And do we 0:18:33.000 --> 0:18:35.159 have Tim and Columbus where I went to school with 0:18:35.200 --> 0:18:40.240 fifty thousand of my closest friends. Okay, Tim, Hey, feel 0:18:40.280 --> 0:18:41.280 free to call back. Tim? 0:18:41.640 --> 0:18:42.160 And Hey. 0:18:42.160 --> 0:18:44.800 The numbers the dial five one three, seven four nine, 0:18:44.880 --> 0:18:48.160 seven thousand one, eight hundred, the Big when I'm changing 0:18:48.200 --> 0:18:52.720 things up here a little bit today. I've got my soda, soda, 0:18:53.000 --> 0:18:54.880 I've got my computer. 0:18:55.880 --> 0:18:58.159 All we need is you at. 0:18:58.040 --> 0:19:00.600 Five P one three seven four nine, seven thousand and one, 0:19:00.720 --> 0:19:05.360 eight hundred, the Big one. Matthew and Franklin, Matthew, are 0:19:05.359 --> 0:19:05.800 you there? 0:19:06.760 --> 0:19:07.160 Yes, sir? 0:19:07.200 --> 0:19:07.720 How are you doing? 0:19:07.960 --> 0:19:08.680 We're good man? 0:19:08.720 --> 0:19:09.119 How are you? 0:19:09.240 --> 0:19:11.399 I'm doing all right outside of the loss today, But 0:19:11.400 --> 0:19:12.480 how are you doing well? 0:19:12.880 --> 0:19:13.120 Well? 0:19:13.280 --> 0:19:14.800 Me and my wife was actually at the game that 0:19:14.880 --> 0:19:16.720 they experienced that so wonderful. 0:19:17.320 --> 0:19:17.919 What was it like? 0:19:18.640 --> 0:19:21.240 What was it like mingling with all those folks from 0:19:21.320 --> 0:19:22.640 up in northeast Ohio? 0:19:23.800 --> 0:19:26.400 I want too bad from where he was sitting today. 0:19:26.560 --> 0:19:30.960 But you know, with all the mistakes that the bank, 0:19:31.000 --> 0:19:32.439 you know, we can go on with the Bengals. I 0:19:32.440 --> 0:19:36.159 guess what gets me, and not just this game, but 0:19:36.200 --> 0:19:40.800 we have seen it multiple times this season. Season's past 0:19:41.480 --> 0:19:45.320 is again that time of possession, as in, they had 0:19:45.359 --> 0:19:47.520 the opportunity and the offense. 0:19:47.080 --> 0:19:49.240 To go down and win a game winning drive, in 0:19:49.280 --> 0:19:52.639 which they did. But what kills me is they. 0:19:52.680 --> 0:19:55.720 Always lead time on the clock for the team. 0:19:55.600 --> 0:19:58.240 To go down and lose at the very end. 0:19:58.160 --> 0:20:00.760 With no time to come back and try it. 0:20:00.840 --> 0:20:02.240 Except when t went down. 0:20:02.440 --> 0:20:05.000 We said against Pittsburgh, team went down on the ground, 0:20:05.040 --> 0:20:07.199 and yeah we went around, yeah close to. 0:20:09.480 --> 0:20:14.000 This season of demonstrating that, you know, yeah, I mean, 0:20:15.680 --> 0:20:17.880 but other than that game, I mean, how many times 0:20:17.920 --> 0:20:23.240 have they lost a game by giving the pupposing team 0:20:23.640 --> 0:20:24.840 too much time on the clock? 0:20:25.920 --> 0:20:27.560 You know, And I think I said it earlier. The 0:20:28.520 --> 0:20:30.399 well I said I said it earlier. You know, you 0:20:30.560 --> 0:20:34.320 you're you're in a sense of urgency because you want 0:20:34.320 --> 0:20:36.560 to go, you want to score the touchdown, but you 0:20:36.560 --> 0:20:38.359 don't want to leave a lot of time on the clock. 0:20:38.920 --> 0:20:40.880 And I don't know, I don't know. 0:20:40.800 --> 0:20:44.119 The answer to that, because if you if you slow 0:20:44.240 --> 0:20:48.160 down and don't don't don't score the touchdown because you're 0:20:48.160 --> 0:20:50.000 trying to run the time off the clock and you 0:20:50.000 --> 0:20:52.680 don't score, then we're going to say, Wow, they didn't 0:20:52.680 --> 0:20:54.159 go down there and do what they're supposed to do. 0:20:54.440 --> 0:20:56.400 Your job on offenses, put the ball. 0:20:56.240 --> 0:20:56.800 In the end zone. 0:20:57.080 --> 0:20:59.240 Your job on defenses and stop the other people from 0:20:59.240 --> 0:21:01.560 putting the ball ends on and we just can't do 0:21:01.600 --> 0:21:03.639 it all the time. 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While before 0:22:53.200 --> 0:22:55.199 we go back out to the phones, let's review the 0:22:55.280 --> 0:22:58.840 delivery of the game Yes, brought to you by RNL Carriers. 0:22:59.320 --> 0:23:02.960 Visit our LC dot com and make RNL Carriers your 0:23:03.000 --> 0:23:08.159 global transportation provider. Well, how about the second drive for 0:23:08.320 --> 0:23:09.480 the Cincinnati Bengals. 0:23:10.320 --> 0:23:11.679 It finished off. 0:23:11.520 --> 0:23:16.680 A after a turnover after the Bengals got the sack 0:23:16.760 --> 0:23:21.680 fumble and the turnover. There four plays, twenty nine yards, 0:23:22.440 --> 0:23:26.280 finished off by a four yard touchdown pass from Joe 0:23:26.320 --> 0:23:30.600 Burrow to Chase Brown. But it was set up by 0:23:30.600 --> 0:23:33.880 a twenty one yard pass to T Higgins. Yes, so 0:23:34.720 --> 0:23:37.600 to me, that combination there is the delivery of the game. 0:23:37.800 --> 0:23:42.119 T Higgins, you know something has happened to him. I 0:23:42.119 --> 0:23:43.919 think he's gotten better. I think he's starting to take 0:23:43.960 --> 0:23:45.240 care of his body a little bit better, and he's 0:23:45.280 --> 0:23:48.440 playing every game. I was worried when he got the 0:23:48.480 --> 0:23:51.040 new contract that the year before that, I think he 0:23:51.040 --> 0:23:53.600 played nine games or ten games, and he was always hurt. 0:23:54.400 --> 0:23:58.480 He has stepped up now he's had some concussions or 0:23:58.600 --> 0:24:01.440 some concussion protocol all that. I didn't think that he 0:24:01.480 --> 0:24:04.200 should have been playing because in one game he went 0:24:04.240 --> 0:24:06.560 into blue ten I think twice, two or three times, 0:24:06.880 --> 0:24:09.080 and they still let him play. So they knew what 0:24:09.119 --> 0:24:10.600 they were doing, but let me tell you something about 0:24:10.600 --> 0:24:13.840 T Man. You know, I hear Dan horror when he 0:24:13.920 --> 0:24:17.199 talks sometime on a grown man. Yes, full grown man, 0:24:17.440 --> 0:24:18.400 full grown man. 0:24:18.560 --> 0:24:19.320 That dude is. 0:24:19.960 --> 0:24:22.800 He's six five, could be six to six, and he 0:24:22.880 --> 0:24:26.680 can jump on top of the basketball rim. So when 0:24:26.760 --> 0:24:29.600 Joe Burrow throws that ball to T Higgins, there's a 0:24:29.640 --> 0:24:32.040 good possibility that he's gonna go up and get that ball. 0:24:32.760 --> 0:24:34.280 His reach is so incredible. 0:24:34.560 --> 0:24:37.080 He high points the ball and even in a tight 0:24:37.119 --> 0:24:41.040 window down that right sideline, he can box a guy out. 0:24:41.240 --> 0:24:43.640 He goes up and snatches the ball out. Well, the touchdown, 0:24:43.920 --> 0:24:47.119 the touchdown holding by the dB one hand and he 0:24:47.280 --> 0:24:49.520 caught it with one like the guy he's got his 0:24:49.600 --> 0:24:51.040 right arm and he can't get the arm out there 0:24:51.040 --> 0:24:52.560 and he wind up catching it with one hand. So 0:24:53.640 --> 0:24:55.920 when he plays man, he's at his best. 0:24:56.400 --> 0:24:59.199 So we could have picked that as the delivery of 0:24:59.200 --> 0:25:02.359 the game too, a thirteen yard touchdown pass to T 0:25:02.560 --> 0:25:06.840 Higgins at the twenty nine second mark, right before the 0:25:06.920 --> 0:25:08.920 end of the first half. Yes, so yeah, the dB 0:25:09.119 --> 0:25:11.439 is pulling his right arm, he yanks it in with 0:25:11.480 --> 0:25:11.960 his left. 0:25:12.000 --> 0:25:18.160 Paul. That was awesome, And these today's receivers are catching balls. 0:25:18.280 --> 0:25:21.120 Everybody is grabbing the ball out the air with one hand, 0:25:21.160 --> 0:25:24.080 and I'm like, well, what about the other hand, use 0:25:24.119 --> 0:25:25.960 the other hand if you can. But in this case 0:25:26.200 --> 0:25:29.199 t couldn't. But he caught the touchdown and we were 0:25:29.560 --> 0:25:30.520 kind of excited about that. 0:25:30.680 --> 0:25:33.080 Fantastic. Let's go out to the phones. Do we have 0:25:33.320 --> 0:25:34.880 Jackson in Cincinnati? 0:25:37.240 --> 0:25:37.400 Hey? 0:25:37.480 --> 0:25:38.080 Anny Amy? 0:25:38.440 --> 0:25:41.760 Yes, sir, Hey, something we're not talking about. 0:25:41.760 --> 0:25:42.720 And I'm not sure why? 0:25:43.760 --> 0:25:47.600 What is going on with mc spears? Why is he 0:25:47.680 --> 0:25:51.479 missing this many kicks? And he's and we're still holding 0:25:51.520 --> 0:25:54.199 behind and we're still supporting. What's going on? 0:25:54.840 --> 0:25:55.120 You got? 0:25:55.160 --> 0:25:58.520 Well, he's head up until today, he's had a phenomenal season. 0:25:58.520 --> 0:25:59.000 I mean he has. 0:25:59.080 --> 0:26:01.520 I mean he he missed two kicks, so he's missed 0:26:01.560 --> 0:26:05.000 three extra points this year. 0:26:05.080 --> 0:26:06.879 He misses every kick that matters. 0:26:08.160 --> 0:26:11.040 You know, he might make a kick to Yader in 0:26:11.119 --> 0:26:14.520 a preseason game, but he's missing every kick that matters. 0:26:14.920 --> 0:26:15.800 Let's go back now. 0:26:15.960 --> 0:26:18.600 If we don't throw them two interceptions or the interception 0:26:18.760 --> 0:26:22.879 and the pick six the Fumbel recovery, nobody would be 0:26:22.960 --> 0:26:28.960 talking about McPherson's missus. So yes, when it counts. This year, 0:26:29.119 --> 0:26:31.440 on a few games he hasn't made those kicks. But 0:26:31.720 --> 0:26:34.560 I will go to battle with McPherson weekend and week 0:26:34.600 --> 0:26:37.639 out if we score points, if we if we do 0:26:37.680 --> 0:26:39.679 what we're supposed to do, if we don't give up 0:26:39.720 --> 0:26:42.920 the fourteen points off of turnovers that kick when none 0:26:42.920 --> 0:26:43.840 of that stuff would matter. 0:26:45.440 --> 0:26:47.719 I understand your point, Oh, Jackson, every direction. 0:26:48.040 --> 0:26:50.680 I'm sorry, we can point fingers in every direction this year. 0:26:50.760 --> 0:26:54.919 Oh, absolutely to play their side of the ball, Jackson, 0:26:54.960 --> 0:26:57.480 I think you'll agree with me that this was the 0:26:57.680 --> 0:27:04.240 perfect ending to a miserable at six and eleven. Yeah, yeah, hey, 0:27:04.320 --> 0:27:05.240 appreciate the cary. 0:27:05.320 --> 0:27:08.520 And it doesn't make sense though. Here's the thing, you know, 0:27:08.600 --> 0:27:12.119 we we we talk about turnovers. If you win the 0:27:12.160 --> 0:27:15.200 turnover battle, you're most likely going to win the game. 0:27:16.119 --> 0:27:18.800 If you give up three turnovers and you get one, 0:27:19.280 --> 0:27:23.159 your your negative two, and guess what, you probably are 0:27:23.160 --> 0:27:24.880 not going to win the game. And today we did 0:27:24.880 --> 0:27:26.480 not win the Game's exactly right? 0:27:26.600 --> 0:27:27.919 How about Jim and Mason? 0:27:27.960 --> 0:27:33.760 Are you there? Jim? Yes, I'm here. What's on your mind? 0:27:35.280 --> 0:27:37.560 Hey, get away from. 0:27:37.400 --> 0:27:41.000 A day's game and this year's uh, you know, the 0:27:41.080 --> 0:27:46.040 game's over, the years over. But let me throw this 0:27:46.160 --> 0:27:50.200 at you guys, as far as they're saying the fancy 0:27:50.320 --> 0:27:55.199 could be fired, I'm thinking that maybe mouth hurt might 0:27:55.320 --> 0:27:56.040 be set up. 0:27:57.480 --> 0:28:01.359 Well, do you think the Bangles are throwing two or 0:28:01.400 --> 0:28:04.760 three first round draft takes with the Browns to get 0:28:04.880 --> 0:28:09.159 him and go off from there? Because we're getting the 0:28:09.200 --> 0:28:12.600 point where Joe's gonna get set up, and I think 0:28:13.280 --> 0:28:17.159 getting Miles Garrett or something like that, well the grass 0:28:17.240 --> 0:28:20.760 this could be a big something to think about. 0:28:20.920 --> 0:28:22.280 Am I wrong or am I right? 0:28:23.160 --> 0:28:23.400 Yeah? 0:28:23.440 --> 0:28:25.840 I just can't see the Cleveland Browns giving up Miles 0:28:25.920 --> 0:28:26.760 Garrett too. 0:28:27.000 --> 0:28:30.240 I take a sufficient opponent to a divisional opponent. Remember 0:28:31.080 --> 0:28:33.119 Mike Tomlin already. 0:28:32.760 --> 0:28:36.240 Had a critical conversation about when Flacco left Cleveland going 0:28:36.240 --> 0:28:37.800 to Cincinnati, how do you do that? 0:28:37.960 --> 0:28:38.640 That makes sense? 0:28:38.920 --> 0:28:41.320 You don't trade inside your own division. 0:28:41.680 --> 0:28:43.360 So Miles Garrett, you. 0:28:43.320 --> 0:28:45.640 Know, remember Miles Garrett before the season started, didn't have 0:28:45.680 --> 0:28:48.320 a contract, and they were talking about quarterbacks and they 0:28:48.320 --> 0:28:50.120 didn't know what quarterback they were going to get, and 0:28:50.160 --> 0:28:52.880 Miles Garrett said, I don't have time to sit here 0:28:53.080 --> 0:28:54.800 and wait on the front a quarterback to come in 0:28:54.800 --> 0:28:57.040 here and make us look good. Until they gave him 0:28:57.040 --> 0:29:00.000 that that couple hundred million dollar contract and he said, 0:29:00.040 --> 0:29:01.160 I'll take that money. 0:29:00.880 --> 0:29:02.400 Over quarterbacks any day. 0:29:02.560 --> 0:29:03.040 That's right. 0:29:03.440 --> 0:29:05.440 So you have to be careful what you ask for. 0:29:05.560 --> 0:29:10.880 Because the timple fact is, I believe, and I'm I 0:29:10.960 --> 0:29:15.160 said this before, this year's draft should be nothing but 0:29:15.440 --> 0:29:19.160 defensive players. I would not go after an offensive player 0:29:19.280 --> 0:29:22.560 until late rounds if that, and then go out free 0:29:22.600 --> 0:29:25.880 agency to find an offensive guy. But this has to 0:29:25.920 --> 0:29:30.040 be a defensive draft. Picks for the Bengals this year, 0:29:30.200 --> 0:29:31.280 all defense. 0:29:32.240 --> 0:29:37.560 David, I agree, and I get, you know, trade within 0:29:37.640 --> 0:29:40.240 the big and I get that, but that usually was 0:29:40.320 --> 0:29:41.280 in the quarterback. 0:29:42.040 --> 0:29:46.760 But I just, uh, I'm kind of larry on draft. 0:29:47.320 --> 0:29:49.080 There is a really good quarterback. 0:29:49.280 --> 0:29:53.000 I don't think coming into craft as far as it's 0:29:53.040 --> 0:29:55.720 gonna make you break the team. But you know, I'm 0:29:55.760 --> 0:29:58.320 just saying, I'm defense side of the ball. We need 0:29:58.360 --> 0:30:00.320 to get h. 0:30:00.200 --> 0:30:03.000 I think somebody like Kik could really changed the whole 0:30:03.040 --> 0:30:03.720 game as far. 0:30:03.640 --> 0:30:08.200 As linebackers, Depik of back, stuff like that, Jim. 0:30:08.280 --> 0:30:11.640 Every phase of this defense needs to be addressed, the front, 0:30:11.800 --> 0:30:14.440 the middle, and the back. And thank you very much 0:30:14.480 --> 0:30:15.880 for your call, and that that got. 0:30:15.680 --> 0:30:16.080 To move on. 0:30:16.240 --> 0:30:21.600 Yes, we do thousands are waiting on hold Jeff and Tayton. Jeff, 0:30:21.840 --> 0:30:23.040 what's happening? 0:30:23.360 --> 0:30:26.920 Oh ye hey, it's a honor to talk to you, 0:30:26.960 --> 0:30:27.800 the great Jeff. 0:30:27.800 --> 0:30:30.880 It's an honor to talk to you in the Gem City. 0:30:32.760 --> 0:30:34.160 Okay, I've got a few things. 0:30:34.200 --> 0:30:36.000 I'll try to rattle them off real quick. 0:30:36.440 --> 0:30:40.000 These scoop sixes by fans. Didn't he have three this year? 0:30:41.080 --> 0:30:43.360 Oh you're talking about, oh fans fumbles? 0:30:43.400 --> 0:30:47.719 Oh, fumbles I think for a touchdown? 0:30:48.080 --> 0:30:50.200 Well, I think you I know he had to Minnesota 0:30:51.200 --> 0:30:53.640 earlier in the year and then this game today. As 0:30:53.640 --> 0:30:55.680 far as fumbles for pick six. 0:30:55.720 --> 0:30:56.480 He's got three. 0:30:56.760 --> 0:30:59.320 And I don't you know you talk about Miles Garrett 0:30:59.320 --> 0:31:02.320 and has torn three sacks being an all five records 0:31:02.920 --> 0:31:06.200 that could be broke. I don't think fans record of 0:31:06.360 --> 0:31:07.920 these three stoops. 0:31:08.560 --> 0:31:14.960 Oh, you're coupled with his coupled with his false starts too. 0:31:15.440 --> 0:31:16.280 Yeah. 0:31:16.400 --> 0:31:19.480 Oh my god, he's just not a good not a 0:31:19.520 --> 0:31:20.320 good signing mirror. 0:31:20.800 --> 0:31:22.880 Here's here's here's the story. Here's the story. 0:31:23.000 --> 0:31:25.080 Here's the story that I brought up and the guy 0:31:25.160 --> 0:31:28.640 said about, you know, when it's come to quarterbacks, you 0:31:28.640 --> 0:31:32.160 can do that in your division listen. In nineteen ninety two, 0:31:32.160 --> 0:31:37.400 the Bengals released me and Dick Lebou was in Pittsburgh. Yeah, Shula, 0:31:37.520 --> 0:31:39.760 David Shula said, do you want me to call Dick 0:31:39.840 --> 0:31:43.840 Lebow and I go, Why the hell would I go 0:31:43.880 --> 0:31:47.240 to Pittsburgh. You don't go to Pittsburgh. You play for Cincinnati. 0:31:47.320 --> 0:31:49.280 You don't go to play in Pittsburgh. I don't care 0:31:49.320 --> 0:31:51.960 what position you play. You do not go on your division. 0:31:52.280 --> 0:31:54.920 You go outside your division and then you can play 0:31:54.960 --> 0:31:58.200 against those teams. But for us to go and grab 0:31:58.320 --> 0:32:00.720 just like we did Flako, I was shot that they 0:32:00.760 --> 0:32:03.560 grabbed Flaco. But they got Flaco because we needed a 0:32:03.640 --> 0:32:05.040 quarterback and experienced quarterback. 0:32:05.440 --> 0:32:06.920 But even that, I wouldn't. 0:32:06.520 --> 0:32:08.240 Never would have got Flaco because he come from the 0:32:08.240 --> 0:32:11.520 Cleveland Browns. There is so much incest. 0:32:11.800 --> 0:32:15.080 You know this, Oh, there is so much incest in 0:32:15.240 --> 0:32:17.080 the AFC. I know. I know. 0:32:17.200 --> 0:32:18.840 You've got to get released. 0:32:18.320 --> 0:32:19.760 First man, you gotta get released. 0:32:20.400 --> 0:32:21.920 Yeah, Travion and. 0:32:23.600 --> 0:32:27.440 Yeah Cleveland brown Yeah, oh yeah, so you don't do that, sick. 0:32:27.600 --> 0:32:28.040 That's right. 0:32:28.160 --> 0:32:30.360 Hey, Jeff, you got one more thing for us quick 0:32:30.480 --> 0:32:31.240 before we break? 0:32:33.080 --> 0:32:35.520 Yes, sir, I want to say the last child is 0:32:35.520 --> 0:32:38.680 talking about and there's no quarterback to that. Nando Mendoza 0:32:38.840 --> 0:32:42.800 is six four or five five, got a rocket arm, 0:32:42.880 --> 0:32:47.240 and I don't know who's gonna draft him, but I 0:32:47.240 --> 0:32:50.000 think they got a franchise quarterback and that's probably the 0:32:50.040 --> 0:32:50.920 only one to draft. 0:32:50.920 --> 0:32:54.160 Thanks you, probably probably, thank you, probably the Las Vegas 0:32:54.480 --> 0:32:56.480 right number one pick. Number one pick is probably gonna 0:32:56.480 --> 0:32:59.840 be him. But Dante Moore is awfully talented. Yeah, or 0:33:00.240 --> 0:33:04.040 I will say this that Fernando Mendoza, that interview right 0:33:04.080 --> 0:33:07.760 after the Rose Bowl. Yes, it was the most impressive 0:33:07.840 --> 0:33:10.280 thing I've seen all year. Oh yeah, that dude is 0:33:10.400 --> 0:33:13.520 class from top to bottom. And even though I bleed 0:33:13.560 --> 0:33:16.720 Scarlett and Gray, my alma mater, the Ohio State University, 0:33:17.360 --> 0:33:21.800 I'm taking a bath in cream and Crimson for the IU. 0:33:22.280 --> 0:33:27.120 Who's yours unbelievable season? Amazing? Hey, we've got to take 0:33:27.160 --> 0:33:27.600 a break. 0:33:27.840 --> 0:33:31.400 You're listening to the Tri State Chevy Dealers postgame sports 0:33:31.440 --> 0:33:33.800 talk presented by RNL Carriers. 0:33:34.000 --> 0:33:35.280 He's David Foulter, This is. 0:33:35.320 --> 0:33:38.800 Chick Ludwig, and we are live at Wings and Rings, 0:33:39.000 --> 0:33:44.360 Liberty Township near Lacoona East High School. East is Beast 0:33:44.720 --> 0:33:51.640 on seven hundred WLW at Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen thirty. You're 0:33:51.800 --> 0:33:55.240 listening to the Tri State Chevy Dealers postgame sports talk 0:33:55.720 --> 0:34:00.520 presented by RNL Carriers. This is Chick Ludwig alongside Faux 0:34:00.600 --> 0:34:04.840 Rock David Fulcher. We've got vultures, vultures and the chick 0:34:05.000 --> 0:34:06.520 Magnets the Hack. 0:34:06.640 --> 0:34:08.600 The vultures are here and the tick Magnets in the house. 0:34:08.640 --> 0:34:09.439 Exactly right. 0:34:09.560 --> 0:34:13.600 We are at live at Wins and Rings, Liberty Township. 0:34:13.960 --> 0:34:17.160 Appreciate everybody coming out. We've got a great crowd here today. 0:34:18.080 --> 0:34:21.640 Man post mortem twenty to eighteen. The Bengals lose to 0:34:21.680 --> 0:34:25.600 the Cleveland Browns. If you're just now turn it, you know, 0:34:25.760 --> 0:34:28.840 joining us and you don't know what happened in the game. 0:34:29.280 --> 0:34:35.120 Two defensive touchdowns by the Cleveland Browns and two missed 0:34:35.160 --> 0:34:40.960 extra points by Evan nick Pherson. Brutal, very brutal man 0:34:41.000 --> 0:34:47.440 And okay, with five minutes and what eleven seconds to 0:34:47.480 --> 0:34:48.520 go in this game? 0:34:51.120 --> 0:34:53.160 Trying to find you stats man here you yes. 0:34:53.120 --> 0:34:53.840 Five eleven? 0:34:54.000 --> 0:34:54.400 Okay? 0:34:55.040 --> 0:35:02.040 The Browns celebrate Miles Garrett's a third sack of the season. 0:35:02.520 --> 0:35:06.279 It is a single season record. 0:35:06.440 --> 0:35:07.040 I would have. 0:35:07.040 --> 0:35:10.399 Thought, yeah, looking at the television, I know what you're 0:35:10.400 --> 0:35:13.880 about to say that the Browns hit just won the 0:35:14.120 --> 0:35:18.480 Super Bowl? Yes, how can they get penalized and they 0:35:18.520 --> 0:35:24.480 weren't for their celebration after their two defensive touchdowns to 0:35:25.000 --> 0:35:30.120 fifteen yard celebration penalties and not get penalized for that 0:35:30.280 --> 0:35:36.400 display of when the entire team comes out, lifts Miles 0:35:36.520 --> 0:35:40.800 carrot up in the air to the heavens, carries in 0:35:40.960 --> 0:35:46.120 to the sidelines in celebration and the referees do nothing. 0:35:46.680 --> 0:35:49.160 All I saw is the referees go like this like 0:35:49.320 --> 0:35:53.880 time out for them to celebrate, and no penalty flag 0:35:54.480 --> 0:35:55.920 disrupt The game is live. 0:35:56.040 --> 0:35:58.440 The game is live. That sag did not stop the 0:35:58.480 --> 0:36:02.520 clock disrupting. Did Bengals entire flow of their offense? 0:36:03.000 --> 0:36:05.640 That should have been a fifteen yard penalty unsportsmun like conduct. 0:36:05.640 --> 0:36:08.200 Bengals got the ball fifteen yards further and who knows 0:36:08.239 --> 0:36:10.759 whatd have happened then, But for them to come out 0:36:10.800 --> 0:36:12.040 there and celebrate and. 0:36:11.960 --> 0:36:14.359 Stop the game because of that. 0:36:14.560 --> 0:36:16.759 It ain't like baseball when somebody hits a home run 0:36:17.200 --> 0:36:19.040 and he runs around, everybody want to give him high 0:36:19.040 --> 0:36:21.319 five because you broke the record in baseball, Because the 0:36:21.320 --> 0:36:22.760 pischers got to Pisch the next picks. 0:36:23.040 --> 0:36:25.160 But this game is live and it's to be going. 0:36:25.200 --> 0:36:26.120 The clock is running. 0:36:26.360 --> 0:36:29.239 They stopped the clock for him to celebrate, and then 0:36:29.239 --> 0:36:31.759 they backed up and said, okay, let's wind it back up. 0:36:31.760 --> 0:36:34.200 They're off the field. That's a fifteen yard penalty. 0:36:34.280 --> 0:36:39.600 Chick did the Bengals hoist Corey Dillon. Today he rushed 0:36:39.600 --> 0:36:43.560 for two hundred and seventy eight yards against the Denver 0:36:43.640 --> 0:36:49.360 Broncos for a single game rushing record and National Football 0:36:49.440 --> 0:36:51.480 League history on the sideline. 0:36:51.800 --> 0:36:53.680 Corey came to the island after he did that and 0:36:53.800 --> 0:36:55.600 they were all high fiving him, but the game was 0:36:55.640 --> 0:36:58.520 still going on. Yes, and what they did today, the 0:36:58.560 --> 0:37:01.040 Bengals are probably gonna get a excuse me letter from 0:37:01.080 --> 0:37:04.120 the league. Yes, sorry, we should have called a flag 0:37:04.160 --> 0:37:05.680 on it, but it's kind of late to call the flag. 0:37:05.719 --> 0:37:11.279 Now, game's over. You're absolutely right. Oh where do we go? 0:37:11.640 --> 0:37:13.560 It's on the wrecking ball, man, We're on the recond 0:37:13.560 --> 0:37:14.879 ball and we can't even get it out. 0:37:14.960 --> 0:37:20.759 That's exactly right. Hey, we've got is it? Anthony did 0:37:20.800 --> 0:37:21.520 Anthony Trupp? 0:37:22.400 --> 0:37:23.080 No, he's gone. 0:37:23.160 --> 0:37:25.480 Okay, how about Jeff in Indianapolis? 0:37:28.120 --> 0:37:31.239 Chick, sir to Rock what's going on to talk to you? 0:37:31.440 --> 0:37:34.000 All right, Jeff, We're good, man, We're good, Jeff. What's happening, 0:37:35.239 --> 0:37:37.000 chick You may remember week one? 0:37:37.080 --> 0:37:39.520 I called on my way back from Cleveland like a 0:37:39.560 --> 0:37:42.399 wrecking ball, like you guys say yes, and it's time 0:37:42.440 --> 0:37:45.720 to take the wrecking ball to the coaching staff. I'm sorry, 0:37:47.000 --> 0:37:52.040 Dak Taylor. He's had some great moments, but I to 0:37:52.160 --> 0:37:54.239 go to the next level. This team will be back, 0:37:55.000 --> 0:37:57.480 but Dak Taylor's not gonna take him there. I thank 0:37:57.560 --> 0:38:00.479 him for what he's done. He's not gonna take them there. 0:38:00.719 --> 0:38:01.480 I've seen enough. 0:38:02.280 --> 0:38:02.480 You know. 0:38:02.520 --> 0:38:04.560 We can talk drafts, we can talk all this stuff. 0:38:04.560 --> 0:38:07.200 But too many mistakes, too many things. I've seen it 0:38:07.239 --> 0:38:08.000 too many times. 0:38:08.120 --> 0:38:08.840 I'm in Indiana. 0:38:08.880 --> 0:38:12.839 Who's regret by the way, Dana Mendoza, let's go. I'm 0:38:12.880 --> 0:38:14.640 trying to figure out a way to get to Miami. 0:38:14.880 --> 0:38:16.480 I'm ready to rock and roll, Chickster. 0:38:16.960 --> 0:38:20.480 I like how coach Sigg stands on the gas baby 0:38:20.680 --> 0:38:23.000 and he don't let up. No he doesn't. Oh no 0:38:23.200 --> 0:38:23.760 he doesn't. 0:38:24.040 --> 0:38:25.400 Man, that is impressive. 0:38:25.520 --> 0:38:29.799 Can I say one thing watching Signetty coach and then 0:38:29.840 --> 0:38:33.520 happen to watch Taylor coaches like watching Stranger Things if 0:38:33.600 --> 0:38:36.480 you're in the normal world and the upside down. And 0:38:36.480 --> 0:38:38.600 then so rock I got one thing and I'll take 0:38:38.640 --> 0:38:41.799 your comments off air. I remember when you guys used 0:38:41.840 --> 0:38:43.560 to travel around and play basketball. 0:38:43.840 --> 0:38:45.240 Yes, Nay's mil Kentucky. 0:38:45.280 --> 0:38:46.960 I probably met you when I was seven. 0:38:46.760 --> 0:38:47.479 Eight years old. 0:38:47.840 --> 0:38:49.040 I remember that you would. 0:38:49.080 --> 0:38:50.880 I think you were a part of that. So I 0:38:50.880 --> 0:38:53.160 thank you for coming out. I remember here with my 0:38:53.200 --> 0:38:57.719 seven year old son. We've leed orange and black in Indianapolis, right, 0:38:58.040 --> 0:39:01.319 I had the opportunity to go bea could never I'm 0:39:01.320 --> 0:39:02.239 orange block to the. 0:39:02.280 --> 0:39:03.760 Day I died. There you go. 0:39:05.280 --> 0:39:06.160 Some changes. 0:39:07.360 --> 0:39:08.440 I only wish. 0:39:08.719 --> 0:39:13.000 I only wish Indianapolis because it's two hours away. 0:39:13.640 --> 0:39:15.279 Is in the AFC North yep? 0:39:15.640 --> 0:39:20.840 Kick Baltimore into the east, yes, and then who Miami 0:39:20.880 --> 0:39:21.480 to the south? 0:39:21.719 --> 0:39:25.680 Yep, Miami to the south. And at one time they 0:39:25.719 --> 0:39:28.920 talked about that realignaw but they didn't do it. But 0:39:29.000 --> 0:39:31.160 I I can't see why the Bengals don't play Indy 0:39:31.920 --> 0:39:34.799 should be in the conference. I mean Indie, Pittsburgh, Cincinnati 0:39:35.080 --> 0:39:37.080 right in that little circle. What do you call that 0:39:37.080 --> 0:39:39.319 outside the two seventy five loop. I guess just. 0:39:39.280 --> 0:39:42.720 Because just because Baltimore was formerly the Cleveland Browns. 0:39:43.360 --> 0:39:46.319 Doesn't mean and remember the Baltimore Coats back in the day, 0:39:46.440 --> 0:39:49.040 they didn't play. They were in the same division the 0:39:49.120 --> 0:39:51.320 Cincinnati Bengals were back in the day to Baltimore Coats. 0:39:51.800 --> 0:39:54.080 So why the Ravens got to be in that division? 0:39:54.400 --> 0:39:55.520 You're absolutely right? 0:39:56.400 --> 0:40:00.440 Hey, we've got is it Gary and Green Hills? 0:40:01.440 --> 0:40:02.120 Yeah? 0:40:02.320 --> 0:40:03.000 All right, Garry. 0:40:04.040 --> 0:40:08.960 Hey, I got a question. So Joe Burrow goes to 0:40:09.000 --> 0:40:11.360 the Bengals and say, you know, I want to trade, 0:40:11.920 --> 0:40:14.680 so you get whatever you can for me, and if 0:40:14.680 --> 0:40:18.920 you don't, I'm retiring. So if he puts him in 0:40:18.920 --> 0:40:23.080 a corner like that, he does retire. Let's say, does 0:40:23.080 --> 0:40:26.440 that make him through with the Bengal Is the Bengals 0:40:26.920 --> 0:40:29.600 no longer to proper have the property of Joe Burrow? 0:40:29.719 --> 0:40:31.040 Oh no, he remains. 0:40:31.160 --> 0:40:34.040 He remains property of the Cincinnati Bengals unless they would 0:40:34.080 --> 0:40:36.880 trade him. And that's what happened with Carsony. 0:40:37.400 --> 0:40:38.799 How long how long? 0:40:43.600 --> 0:40:46.640 Well he had the Bengals. The Bengals owned the right. 0:40:46.560 --> 0:40:49.000 To Joe Burrow based off of that last contract that 0:40:49.040 --> 0:40:51.800 he signed. So Joe Burrow, if if Joe Burrow decided 0:40:51.880 --> 0:40:56.440 to retire, he could not come back to another team 0:40:56.640 --> 0:40:59.600 unless the Bengals give him permission to do so. Yes, 0:41:00.040 --> 0:41:03.520 when you retire from a team, you just can't come 0:41:03.520 --> 0:41:05.600 out of retirement and go back to another. 0:41:06.880 --> 0:41:10.520 If his contract runs out, I don't know he's I 0:41:10.560 --> 0:41:12.080 think his contract runs. 0:41:11.800 --> 0:41:14.479 Out and he's got four years left. 0:41:14.760 --> 0:41:16.560 He's got four years left of the one that he 0:41:16.719 --> 0:41:18.799 just signed for two hundred and thirty something. 0:41:19.120 --> 0:41:21.000 It's a long time to be retired and then and 0:41:21.120 --> 0:41:24.480 wanting to come back and play football like riverts did. 0:41:25.200 --> 0:41:29.279 And and to pay back your pro rated signing bonus 0:41:29.640 --> 0:41:30.720 because you're not playing. 0:41:31.280 --> 0:41:34.000 Yeah, no, the men want to do that, the Bengals. 0:41:34.040 --> 0:41:37.359 That structure of contract that Joe Burrow signed is not 0:41:37.520 --> 0:41:40.120 just one of them out of the window contract. There's 0:41:40.160 --> 0:41:42.120 a lot of ways inside of that contry. 0:41:42.400 --> 0:41:44.920 I don't I don't want to play for you guys anymore. 0:41:45.239 --> 0:41:50.000 Trade make and the Bengals don't trading? What happens then? Then? 0:41:50.200 --> 0:41:53.120 No, Then he's just sitting on the sideline and he's 0:41:53.160 --> 0:41:56.799 not going to get paid. No, if he doesn't show up, 0:41:56.840 --> 0:41:57.520 he's gonna get fined. 0:41:57.600 --> 0:42:00.759 I just wondering, you know, if how long ago I 0:42:00.880 --> 0:42:03.360 raise the team of how the retirement and you decide, 0:42:03.400 --> 0:42:05.560 you know, I'd like to come back and try to 0:42:05.600 --> 0:42:06.800 play some more football. 0:42:07.120 --> 0:42:09.840 Well, he won't be He won't get paid doing nothing. 0:42:10.760 --> 0:42:13.640 Meaning if he's out there, if he's out there fishing, 0:42:14.040 --> 0:42:16.480 if he's out there fishing, he won't be doing nothing. 0:42:16.800 --> 0:42:21.279 So hey, appreciate the call. We gotta we gotta run. 0:42:21.320 --> 0:42:22.920 I wonder how that worked, you know, all. 0:42:22.960 --> 0:42:25.759 Right, thank you very much. We got to run. Do 0:42:25.880 --> 0:42:27.040 we have Richard? 0:42:27.719 --> 0:42:30.600 Hey, you know what, let's hang on Dick in Dayton. 0:42:31.000 --> 0:42:33.479 We have reached the bottom of the hour break. You're 0:42:33.600 --> 0:42:37.320 listening to the Tri State Chevy Dealers Postgame Sports Talk 0:42:38.040 --> 0:42:42.239 presented by RNL Carriers. He's David Foulch. This is Chick Ludwig. 0:42:42.719 --> 0:42:46.360 We are live at Wings and Rings in Liberty Township 0:42:47.000 --> 0:42:55.760 on seven hundred WLW in Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen thirty. Welcome 0:42:55.880 --> 0:42:58.600 back to the Tri State Chevy Dealers post game Sports 0:42:58.640 --> 0:43:03.080 Talk presented by Arnell Carriers. We are live at Wings 0:43:03.120 --> 0:43:07.479 and Rings in Liberty Township, South Liberty Drive, right near 0:43:07.880 --> 0:43:12.359 Lakota East High School, and we're talking Bengals football. They 0:43:12.400 --> 0:43:16.040 lose today twenty to eighteen to the Cleveland Browns. Instead 0:43:16.080 --> 0:43:18.960 of a sweep, the Bengals have to settle. 0:43:18.680 --> 0:43:19.280 For a split. 0:43:20.280 --> 0:43:24.200 And yes, Miles Garrett got his twenty third sack of 0:43:24.239 --> 0:43:28.800 the season that sets a single season NFL record for sacks, 0:43:29.200 --> 0:43:34.920 although before they started recording them, Cooy Bacon of the 0:43:34.960 --> 0:43:39.920 Cincinnati Bengals, he's got he has it. He had twenty plus. 0:43:40.000 --> 0:43:42.120 Yeah, he had plenty plus. And then they didn't record 0:43:42.160 --> 0:43:43.880 those sacks back then, And I wish they would have 0:43:43.880 --> 0:43:47.640 because Coy Bacon the sacks, he's probably had twenty five, 0:43:47.719 --> 0:43:50.879 twenty six of them, but they never counted them as 0:43:51.040 --> 0:43:55.399 sacks until after he started playing. So I still think 0:43:55.440 --> 0:43:57.440 that we've got the number one sack man right here 0:43:57.480 --> 0:44:00.919 in Cincinnati. But you know, Miles Garrett. I was shocked though, 0:44:01.520 --> 0:44:04.359 because I Miles Garrett after the Pittsburgh stee the game 0:44:04.680 --> 0:44:08.080 said the Pittsburgh was so concerned about him, that's why 0:44:08.120 --> 0:44:10.200 they lost the game. But then you go into the 0:44:10.239 --> 0:44:13.000 game today and I felt like the Bengals were so 0:44:13.160 --> 0:44:17.600 concerned about Miles Garrett getting that sash that everything was 0:44:17.640 --> 0:44:21.040 happening very fast. Joe got They showed a highlight up there. 0:44:21.239 --> 0:44:23.520 I'm watching them in the press box. He was getting 0:44:23.520 --> 0:44:25.239 out of getting out of his hand about second and 0:44:25.239 --> 0:44:29.160 a half two seconds. It was everything was quick. The sack. 0:44:29.600 --> 0:44:33.480 If Joe Burrow goes to the right, he's running the football, 0:44:33.480 --> 0:44:36.279 Miles Garrett doesn't get the sack. But Joe just went 0:44:36.320 --> 0:44:39.359 down because maybe he felt it coming. But you saw 0:44:39.400 --> 0:44:41.360 the one running play he had. Oh yeah, when you 0:44:41.440 --> 0:44:43.759 start looking around like where's Miles Garrett and Miles was 0:44:43.800 --> 0:44:44.560 right there on his back. 0:44:44.600 --> 0:44:46.880 So Joe, Joe was smart, you know. 0:44:46.960 --> 0:44:49.040 And and it wouldn't if Miles Garret would have got 0:44:49.080 --> 0:44:50.880 that sack in the first quarter. Do you think he 0:44:50.880 --> 0:44:54.040 had played the next three quarters because they took him 0:44:54.040 --> 0:44:55.919 out of the game. He still had a quarter left, 0:44:57.239 --> 0:44:58.759 So I don't know. I don't know if they were 0:44:58.800 --> 0:45:00.600 just getting that sack and trying to take him out, 0:45:00.640 --> 0:45:01.279 because they did. 0:45:01.760 --> 0:45:03.640 They took him out, I think for a play or two. 0:45:03.800 --> 0:45:06.360 He came back on. There was five minutes or eleven 0:45:06.440 --> 0:45:09.000 seconds to go in the game. I think you would 0:45:09.040 --> 0:45:11.160 have continued to play to give himself some. 0:45:11.280 --> 0:45:13.239 Room in some room. 0:45:13.239 --> 0:45:14.080 He needs a fack. 0:45:14.360 --> 0:45:15.040 Yeah, that's exactly. 0:45:16.360 --> 0:45:21.160 But anyway, when you have Miles Garrett breathing down you 0:45:21.239 --> 0:45:25.240 that's why the Bengals attempted to run the football today. 0:45:25.320 --> 0:45:28.640 They ran the ball quite often and ran it at him. Yes, 0:45:28.719 --> 0:45:29.960 you know, so a lot of people look at this 0:45:30.000 --> 0:45:32.680 say we go back to Trey Henderson. You know, Trey 0:45:32.840 --> 0:45:36.440 is a great pass rusher, grace airs rusher. He grated 0:45:36.480 --> 0:45:39.919 out about in the nineties last year as quarterback pressers, 0:45:40.360 --> 0:45:43.319 but against the run he was in the fifties. And 0:45:43.400 --> 0:45:46.400 this is coming from Andrew Whitworth. Whitworth did a study 0:45:46.440 --> 0:45:50.399 on pass rushers and edge rushers Miles Garrett. They ran 0:45:50.440 --> 0:45:52.960 the ball at Miles Garrett, and Miles Garrett wasn't making 0:45:52.960 --> 0:45:56.160 a lot of tackles, so running the football at Miles Garrett, 0:45:56.320 --> 0:45:59.040 they should have continued to keep doing that. They started 0:45:59.080 --> 0:46:00.400 doing it, they were getting away with it, and then 0:46:00.440 --> 0:46:02.320 they wanted to throw the football. When they throw the football, 0:46:02.400 --> 0:46:06.000 the Bengals will bring over a tight end, a wide receiver, 0:46:06.080 --> 0:46:09.279 and they tried to bump him. There were times that 0:46:09.280 --> 0:46:13.160 that guy was he's just if you were you're a professional, 0:46:14.640 --> 0:46:15.400 he's a game record. 0:46:15.480 --> 0:46:19.200 And on that play, Orlando Brown Junior had no chance 0:46:19.320 --> 0:46:21.360 because there was not help and was no help. He 0:46:21.520 --> 0:46:23.799 just blew right past him and got the jail. 0:46:23.880 --> 0:46:27.120 But the thing that gets me though, is this, You're 0:46:27.120 --> 0:46:31.280 a national football player, football football player, Okay, in the NFL. 0:46:31.719 --> 0:46:34.000 They pay you a lot of money to do your position. 0:46:34.040 --> 0:46:38.560 You shouldn't have to get help. Orlando Brown getting help 0:46:38.640 --> 0:46:42.520 from Chase Brown tight ends. There was one time one 0:46:42.520 --> 0:46:45.280 of the tight ends was blocking Miles Garret by himself, 0:46:45.400 --> 0:46:47.439 but Joe Burrow threw the ball really quick and Miles 0:46:47.480 --> 0:46:49.520 Garrett tried, almost got there, but he threw the ball away. 0:46:49.680 --> 0:46:53.720 So you shouldn't have to have help. But Miles Garrett 0:46:53.760 --> 0:46:56.279 is a wrecking ball. We talk about wrecking ball on 0:46:56.320 --> 0:46:59.680 this show. He's a wrecking ball. And I think the 0:46:59.760 --> 0:47:01.680 being could not do what they wanted to do. They 0:47:01.680 --> 0:47:03.840 threw the ball down the field maybe once or twice. 0:47:04.160 --> 0:47:06.920 Everything was dink and dunk underneath because of the presser 0:47:07.000 --> 0:47:10.160 that Miles Garrett brings to the offensive football teams. 0:47:10.200 --> 0:47:14.800 Both Jamar Chase and t Higgins caught twenty one yard passes. 0:47:14.920 --> 0:47:17.360 That was the longest pass play of the game for 0:47:17.400 --> 0:47:17.840 the Bengals. 0:47:17.880 --> 0:47:21.000 They wanted to run the ball and avoid getting sacked 0:47:21.040 --> 0:47:25.280 by Miles Garrett. And meanwhile, the Bengals defense sacked Shador 0:47:25.440 --> 0:47:27.080 Sanders six times. 0:47:27.239 --> 0:47:27.520 Wow. 0:47:27.520 --> 0:47:31.680 For negative twenty nine yards, So that's not bad. Bengals dominate. 0:47:32.040 --> 0:47:35.400 They dominated the game, dominated, and lose twenty to eighteen. 0:47:35.480 --> 0:47:38.840 And you know, you see this throughout the year. Teams 0:47:38.880 --> 0:47:42.360 get beat up, teams get dominated, and the teams that 0:47:42.440 --> 0:47:45.200 get dominated the other team scores more points. And at 0:47:45.200 --> 0:47:47.720 the end of the game, when it clock says zero 0:47:47.880 --> 0:47:51.600 zero zero, it's who win and who lost it, no 0:47:51.600 --> 0:47:52.520 matter what does that say. 0:47:52.600 --> 0:47:55.279 You're absolutely right. Let's go out to the phones. We 0:47:55.360 --> 0:48:00.279 have Clayton. Is it in Mayfield? Yes, sir? How you 0:48:00.320 --> 0:48:04.360 guys going all right? Man up in northeast Ohio a Cleveland. 0:48:03.880 --> 0:48:10.320 Suburb, No, sir, Mainsville, Maysvilleayville, Kentuckysville, Kentucky. 0:48:10.400 --> 0:48:12.120 Thank you, yes, sir. 0:48:13.120 --> 0:48:13.319 Hey. 0:48:13.360 --> 0:48:16.239 I kind of have a different opinion, kind of unpopular 0:48:16.320 --> 0:48:18.960 opinion about how this season went to Borough and now 0:48:19.000 --> 0:48:23.759 the team played. I believe when Burrow had suffered that 0:48:23.880 --> 0:48:28.000 injury early on with the turf toe, allegedly he and 0:48:28.120 --> 0:48:31.600 he was slated to be down for pretty much the 0:48:31.640 --> 0:48:35.280 rest of the season, and we tried everything with brown 0:48:35.280 --> 0:48:38.319 and and then flat though, and we played terribly for 0:48:38.400 --> 0:48:42.240 multiple reasons on the defensive side and the offensive side, 0:48:42.280 --> 0:48:44.239 not as much as on the offensive side, but it 0:48:44.280 --> 0:48:47.759 could have been a little bit better. But we've had 0:48:47.920 --> 0:48:52.719 such a dumpster fire of a season. I'm surprised that 0:48:53.160 --> 0:48:56.080 they were so eager to rush Borough back in here, 0:48:56.160 --> 0:48:59.959 as if he was going to be the saving grace 0:49:00.120 --> 0:49:02.920 for our season, which was pretty much already by the 0:49:03.000 --> 0:49:05.360 time he got back, and warm Duck was already in 0:49:05.400 --> 0:49:08.680 the dumpster. I just feel like I was the only 0:49:08.719 --> 0:49:11.880 person saying, hey, look, whether he's ready or not, he 0:49:11.960 --> 0:49:15.160 needs to be disassociated with this dumpter fiver season. Let 0:49:15.239 --> 0:49:18.120 him come back next year, fresh ready for war. Let 0:49:18.200 --> 0:49:21.319 us make some changes in the offseason to accommodate him 0:49:21.320 --> 0:49:24.440 a little bit better, because now what we got is 0:49:24.480 --> 0:49:27.520 he didn't be rushed him back, and now he's unhappy, 0:49:27.560 --> 0:49:30.520 and now he has all that Garreton got his sack 0:49:30.600 --> 0:49:31.600 off on him. 0:49:31.960 --> 0:49:34.640 Clayton, and I don't think they rushed him back. He 0:49:34.920 --> 0:49:38.080 worked his tail off to get back. He is a 0:49:38.120 --> 0:49:42.960 competitor and he wanted to come back, and he was 0:49:43.000 --> 0:49:46.040 able to get healthy and play. I don't think no 0:49:46.239 --> 0:49:46.680 Borrow would. 0:49:47.080 --> 0:49:49.960 I don't think Joe Borow would have came back if 0:49:49.960 --> 0:49:52.520 he did not have the surgery. 0:49:53.280 --> 0:49:54.719 Turf told is. 0:49:56.280 --> 0:49:59.800 If you've ever had it before. Man, it's very painful. Yes, 0:50:00.040 --> 0:50:03.960 it's very painful. And for Joe I think I think 0:50:04.040 --> 0:50:06.520 once he had that surgery done because I said it too. 0:50:06.840 --> 0:50:09.040 Once he got the turf tow. I said, Joe's not 0:50:09.120 --> 0:50:11.600 coming back if he comes back and play, period, because 0:50:11.640 --> 0:50:14.640 turf tow is tough, especially the right turf toe that 0:50:14.680 --> 0:50:16.560 he's got to throw off of he's got to push 0:50:16.560 --> 0:50:19.719 off on. So but Joe wanted to come back, man, 0:50:19.760 --> 0:50:21.799 and I applaud him for one to come back. He 0:50:21.880 --> 0:50:23.360 said it. You paid me a lot of money to 0:50:23.360 --> 0:50:25.560 play this game. Let me go out and play and 0:50:25.600 --> 0:50:29.080 have because like these last three games, they're not going anywhere. 0:50:29.160 --> 0:50:32.319 So you got your franchise quarterback with the opportunity or 0:50:32.320 --> 0:50:35.799 a possibility of getting hurt again. And if he got 0:50:35.840 --> 0:50:37.920 hurt again in the day, he could be out for 0:50:37.960 --> 0:50:40.160 the rest of the season next year. But you know what, 0:50:40.200 --> 0:50:42.239 he wanted to play, and I applaud him for doing that. 0:50:42.400 --> 0:50:45.040 I know, and you know I'm not taking nothing from 0:50:45.080 --> 0:50:45.600 him for that. 0:50:45.719 --> 0:50:46.160 I get it. 0:50:46.200 --> 0:50:48.399 He's got that fire and even as part of making 0:50:48.440 --> 0:50:51.440 him such a such a stand up guy for us. 0:50:51.480 --> 0:50:54.239 But so none of y'all think that it should have 0:50:54.280 --> 0:50:57.200 been more talkspout. Hey, man, we want to we want 0:50:57.239 --> 0:50:59.480 to make for sure that we don't get him in 0:50:59.560 --> 0:51:02.560 here with season we've been having where it's pretty much 0:51:02.640 --> 0:51:04.439 game over and we want to make sure. 0:51:04.480 --> 0:51:05.960 Hey, if Flaco. 0:51:05.760 --> 0:51:08.120 Gets you know, hey, Garrett, get that sack out on 0:51:08.239 --> 0:51:09.760 flat though, all right. 0:51:09.680 --> 0:51:10.200 So be it. 0:51:10.520 --> 0:51:13.279 We don't really want Burrows racking up them type of 0:51:13.320 --> 0:51:16.160 stacks with the picks and the interceptions and the and 0:51:16.239 --> 0:51:18.360 the sack. We know it's kind of part of the 0:51:18.760 --> 0:51:21.399 it's kind of the nature of the monsters. But it's 0:51:21.480 --> 0:51:24.040 just been we got so much to fix as a team, 0:51:24.160 --> 0:51:24.800 and I mean. 0:51:25.160 --> 0:51:29.360 Especially Yeah, yeah, you're right. I mean you have Clayton. 0:51:29.360 --> 0:51:33.239 We got to move on. Appreciate, appreciate you. Uh we've 0:51:33.239 --> 0:51:38.239 got is it Bucky in uh in Taylor mil h 0:51:39.520 --> 0:51:40.439 Bucky are you there? 0:51:42.200 --> 0:51:42.399 Yes? 0:51:44.120 --> 0:51:46.000 What's on your mind? Welcome? 0:51:47.920 --> 0:51:48.600 Oh, thank you? 0:51:48.680 --> 0:51:49.560 Him to talk to y'all. 0:51:51.239 --> 0:51:57.160 My thought is, come on, Bucky, talk to us now. 0:51:58.680 --> 0:52:01.480 I'm sorry, y'all are in this on the offense and 0:52:01.520 --> 0:52:05.399 all McPherson, which agreed the offense. 0:52:05.160 --> 0:52:07.240 Doing that great didn't be that great. 0:52:07.280 --> 0:52:10.360 If Peerson had a bad game, but the defense needed 0:52:10.480 --> 0:52:11.160 one stop. 0:52:11.840 --> 0:52:14.200 And how many times this year is the defense not 0:52:14.520 --> 0:52:16.799 gotten that one stop that needed to win the game. 0:52:17.760 --> 0:52:21.640 Well, you're right, man, one stop, one stop. And you know, 0:52:21.880 --> 0:52:24.760 especially the way the game was played. Throughout the whole 0:52:25.000 --> 0:52:29.680 course of the game, Cleveland couldn't move the ball, throwing interceptions, 0:52:29.719 --> 0:52:32.719 getting sacks, all this stuff was happening three and a 0:52:32.760 --> 0:52:36.480 half quarters and then on the time that we really 0:52:36.520 --> 0:52:38.800 needed it, we couldn't come up with a player. So yeah, 0:52:39.400 --> 0:52:41.680 I would say, defense, if you make a play, we 0:52:41.760 --> 0:52:44.480 win the game. They didn't come up with the play. 0:52:45.239 --> 0:52:47.719 And time of possession. We gave them a little bit 0:52:47.719 --> 0:52:51.719 of time. And you know, you you one caller calls 0:52:51.719 --> 0:52:53.920 in and says we left him too much time. You 0:52:53.960 --> 0:52:56.239 know when when you win, when you go ahead with 0:52:56.320 --> 0:52:59.400 fifty seconds left in the game, and that's a very 0:52:59.480 --> 0:53:02.920 high percent. Normally some teams win those games, but for 0:53:02.960 --> 0:53:03.879 some reason we don't. 0:53:06.520 --> 0:53:10.560 As they score, I thought, we're gonna lose. There's too 0:53:10.600 --> 0:53:11.080 much time. 0:53:12.400 --> 0:53:13.919 Hey, Bucky, appreciate the call. 0:53:14.040 --> 0:53:17.640 Thank you. I I thought the same thing, there's too 0:53:17.680 --> 0:53:20.200 much time left on the clock. The defense played great 0:53:20.280 --> 0:53:24.200 for fifty eight and a half minutes that last one 0:53:24.200 --> 0:53:28.919 to twenty nine, Shador Sanders was able to go ten 0:53:29.000 --> 0:53:32.320 plays forty yards and get him in position for Andre 0:53:32.560 --> 0:53:36.560 Schmidt to go from goat to hero and beat the 0:53:36.560 --> 0:53:39.920 Bengals today twenty to eighteen. We've got to take a 0:53:39.920 --> 0:53:44.800 break and uh but before we do, a reminder to 0:53:44.880 --> 0:53:47.359 fans that postgames sport Stalk is brought to you by 0:53:47.600 --> 0:53:51.240 M and P Logistics. From first down to final mile, 0:53:51.880 --> 0:53:55.080 M and P delivers. You can depend on it. It 0:53:55.160 --> 0:53:58.839 weren't depending on the great fans coming out here too. 0:53:59.040 --> 0:54:02.840 We've got them man Rings in Liberty Township. He's David Fulter. 0:54:02.960 --> 0:54:05.839 This is Chick Ludwig. You're listening to the Tri State 0:54:05.960 --> 0:54:10.759 Chevy Dealers postgame Sports Talk presented by Rnel Carriers on 0:54:11.120 --> 0:54:20.080 seven hundred WLW and Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen thirty. 0:54:23.280 --> 0:54:25.040 We're having so much fun in your tick. We getting 0:54:25.040 --> 0:54:26.400 ready to go. Let's go tast it. 0:54:26.560 --> 0:54:29.560 We're listening to the Tri State Chevy Dealers postgame Sports 0:54:29.560 --> 0:54:33.640 Talk presented by Rnel Carriers. We're breaking down the Bengals 0:54:33.680 --> 0:54:37.319 twenty to eighteen loss to the Cleveland Browns today like 0:54:37.360 --> 0:54:39.719 a wrecking ball, and we're doing it at Wings and 0:54:39.840 --> 0:54:44.759 Rings Liberty Township, South Liberty Drive, good fights right near 0:54:45.320 --> 0:54:48.600 Lakota East High School. Good folks, home of the thunder Hawks. 0:54:48.640 --> 0:54:51.319 Thunderhawks love it here, and. 0:54:52.360 --> 0:54:57.759 David was this was a strange game, yea. Even Dan 0:54:57.880 --> 0:55:01.880 Horde and Lapp talked about how crazy it was to 0:55:01.960 --> 0:55:06.360 have two defensive scores within one minute and fifty seconds 0:55:06.440 --> 0:55:07.000 of each other. 0:55:07.160 --> 0:55:10.040 I started thinking, how many games have ever been played 0:55:10.800 --> 0:55:16.400 where two defensive touchdowns and an offense doesn't score a touchdown? 0:55:17.760 --> 0:55:19.520 And will they win that game? 0:55:20.840 --> 0:55:23.720 The Browns had forty yards of offense in the first 0:55:23.760 --> 0:55:27.560 half in their leading fourteen to twelve. 0:55:27.719 --> 0:55:31.759 Yeah, I was waiting. I was talking to my daughter. 0:55:31.840 --> 0:55:33.719 We go back and forth, and she's texting me about 0:55:33.760 --> 0:55:38.160 the game. I was waiting for something to happen for 0:55:38.239 --> 0:55:40.520 the Bengals, like, oh, you know, we're gonna come out 0:55:40.560 --> 0:55:42.839 of shell before you know it to be twenty eight 0:55:42.880 --> 0:55:45.280 to twelve and blah blah blah. And it never happened 0:55:46.000 --> 0:55:47.960 with that offense that we got. I was looking for 0:55:48.000 --> 0:55:50.760 something to happen, and it never happened today. 0:55:50.960 --> 0:55:53.600 And I've got to tip my cap to Jim schwartz 0:55:53.680 --> 0:55:58.600 Jim Schwartzman, defensive coordinator of the Cleveland Browns, former head 0:55:58.640 --> 0:56:02.000 coach of the did You Right Lions from two thousand 0:56:02.040 --> 0:56:06.280 and nine to twenty thirteen, but former defensive coordinator before 0:56:06.360 --> 0:56:09.120 that with the Titans, and then after the Lions with 0:56:09.160 --> 0:56:11.400 the Bills, Eagles and Browns. 0:56:11.960 --> 0:56:15.600 The guy is awesome. So someone just texted me, man 0:56:15.640 --> 0:56:18.920 and said, answer this nine aster, who it is, Answer me? 0:56:19.000 --> 0:56:22.759 How do you rush only four in the game on 0:56:22.840 --> 0:56:26.200 the winning drive against a rookie quarterback? And he had time? 0:56:26.719 --> 0:56:30.799 He confused, confusing, and you know what, once again, if 0:56:30.840 --> 0:56:34.200 you're putting more pressure as we were putting pressure on him, 0:56:34.560 --> 0:56:37.720 he got happy feet. He started running around doing things 0:56:37.760 --> 0:56:40.239 and throwing the ball away or getting sacked. And we 0:56:40.320 --> 0:56:43.040 going to that last and you know what's that that 0:56:43.200 --> 0:56:48.919 famous prevent defense preventing yourself from winning. Not the other 0:56:48.960 --> 0:56:51.680 team from beating you, but you're preventing yourself from winning 0:56:51.680 --> 0:56:52.040 the game. 0:56:52.680 --> 0:56:54.040 Keep throwing the dagger. 0:56:53.719 --> 0:56:56.400 At him, keep throwing bullets at him, you keep throwing 0:56:56.480 --> 0:57:00.000 everything you got at him. Because three and a half 0:57:00.200 --> 0:57:03.040 quarters you did that. And then in the last quarter, 0:57:03.160 --> 0:57:07.600 we last drive, we rush three, rush four. Don't put 0:57:07.640 --> 0:57:10.479 pressure on him, dropping back, trying to keep the ball 0:57:10.520 --> 0:57:12.719 in front of us, so we don't give up the 0:57:12.719 --> 0:57:14.719 big touchdown. But all they need is to feel go 0:57:14.760 --> 0:57:16.600 to win the game. And sure enough, that's what they did. 0:57:16.760 --> 0:57:21.120 Ten plays, forty yards and they got it in position 0:57:21.400 --> 0:57:27.720 for Andre Schmidt forty nine yards at the gun twenty 0:57:27.720 --> 0:57:30.760 to eighteen. Tough man, brutal, just brutal, rookie quarterback, and 0:57:30.800 --> 0:57:32.240 you give him all the time in the world to 0:57:32.240 --> 0:57:35.240 throw the football. And on that last drive, man, you 0:57:35.320 --> 0:57:36.040 bring the house. 0:57:36.840 --> 0:57:39.440 You if they're gonna beat me, I'm well, let me 0:57:39.520 --> 0:57:42.720 back this up because both of our starting corners went down, 0:57:43.440 --> 0:57:45.000 so now we had to bring in the back ends, 0:57:45.040 --> 0:57:46.240 the backups, and. 0:57:46.200 --> 0:57:49.959 The Browns were missing four fifths of their offensive line. Yes, 0:57:50.400 --> 0:57:56.920 and they're starting cornerbacks Caldwell and Denzel Ward. 0:57:57.000 --> 0:57:59.520 Yeah, both of those guys went down early. That's right, 0:57:59.560 --> 0:58:01.720 they went down early. One of them came back, and 0:58:01.760 --> 0:58:02.960 I think one did not come back. 0:58:02.960 --> 0:58:06.000 It was called Well with the shoulder War didn't come back, 0:58:06.040 --> 0:58:09.160 and denshell Ward with the neck injury, did not come back. 0:58:09.320 --> 0:58:09.720 To see you. 0:58:10.120 --> 0:58:13.840 You've you know the guy that just texted me? Is 0:58:13.840 --> 0:58:17.600 it poor coaching? Is it h players line up in 0:58:17.640 --> 0:58:20.200 the wrong position? I mean, what does it mean. First 0:58:20.240 --> 0:58:22.520 of all, I don't never blame anything on the coach. 0:58:23.080 --> 0:58:25.520 You know, miss the tackles that were missed this year 0:58:26.400 --> 0:58:28.800 was horrific. The guys that's missed so many tackles. So 0:58:28.960 --> 0:58:31.080 I can't blame the coach for that. That's that's the player. 0:58:31.840 --> 0:58:34.480 But when you got a system that these guys are 0:58:34.520 --> 0:58:37.120 running through the system, it took him a while earlier 0:58:37.120 --> 0:58:38.840 to get this system down and they got a little 0:58:38.880 --> 0:58:41.480 bit better. But as a professional athlete, when you're in 0:58:41.480 --> 0:58:44.160 the field, you had one job to do, that's tackle. 0:58:44.800 --> 0:58:47.040 You got one job to do on offense that's catch 0:58:47.120 --> 0:58:50.320 and block, hold on to the football. When you don't 0:58:50.320 --> 0:58:52.520 do that, you don't belong out there. 0:58:52.840 --> 0:58:56.800 Rock. What worries me about the Bengals is when they 0:58:56.840 --> 0:59:02.240 get nine yards and need one I know, second fifty 0:59:02.360 --> 0:59:05.960 nine to go, second and one, I know, third and 0:59:06.040 --> 0:59:10.720 one and then fourth and one they come out. That's 0:59:10.760 --> 0:59:13.320 a delay of game, a delay a game. 0:59:13.640 --> 0:59:13.920 What. 0:59:14.520 --> 0:59:15.920 Let me tell you what happened. 0:59:16.000 --> 0:59:18.880 If y'all out there listening, if Chick Lovewick could take 0:59:18.920 --> 0:59:22.040 some of this energy he had right here, Bengles would 0:59:22.080 --> 0:59:23.240 have won forty something nothing. 0:59:23.280 --> 0:59:28.919 Oh my gosh, I appreciate that rock. Okay, rock, while 0:59:28.960 --> 0:59:32.240 we're here. Uh, let's go out to the phones. Welcome 0:59:32.280 --> 0:59:36.200 to our friend Brandon in Indianapolis. Brandon House up man, Hi. 0:59:36.080 --> 0:59:39.960 Brandon, Hey hey check Hey foot Rock, Happy New Year. 0:59:39.960 --> 0:59:41.240 Do you mind if I call you a fault rock? 0:59:41.760 --> 0:59:44.120 That's my nickname. Man, it's all good. First, don't just 0:59:44.160 --> 0:59:48.320 don't call me late for dinner. So faux rock Rock. 0:59:49.680 --> 0:59:49.960 Hey. 0:59:49.960 --> 0:59:52.280 Uh, it's good to talk to you guys in that chickup. 0:59:52.520 --> 0:59:55.400 You know, I comment on your Facebook about the when 0:59:55.400 --> 0:59:57.360 you put the schedule out about the cults the other day. 0:59:57.360 --> 0:59:58.600 I mean, we're upset. 0:59:58.680 --> 0:59:58.840 You know. 0:59:58.880 --> 1:00:00.640 I'm a Bengo fan too, but I would love but 1:00:00.800 --> 1:00:02.040 you know, because I don't know why I don't play 1:00:02.040 --> 1:00:04.000 each other well often. I mean, you're right, sometimes you 1:00:04.040 --> 1:00:05.960 can get you know, down there less than two hours. 1:00:06.000 --> 1:00:08.400 It just depends on traffic. But the Colts, you know, 1:00:08.480 --> 1:00:10.880 lost seven straight. But guys, what I'm going to say 1:00:10.880 --> 1:00:13.680 about the Bengals is, you know, I know that they 1:00:13.680 --> 1:00:16.000 were talk great writers talking about the Colts, and they 1:00:16.040 --> 1:00:18.400 were saying that the fans shouldn't make decisions. 1:00:18.400 --> 1:00:19.080 The owners have to. 1:00:19.200 --> 1:00:22.120 I understand that, but if it wasn't it for us. 1:00:22.600 --> 1:00:25.040 You know, we put butts to the seats. 1:00:25.080 --> 1:00:26.200 You know, if we don't like what we see, we 1:00:26.240 --> 1:00:27.680 don't have to put our butts in the seats. And 1:00:27.680 --> 1:00:29.200 I don't know how you feel about that day, But 1:00:29.720 --> 1:00:32.160 are Chicky the one? But I mean, I don't blame 1:00:32.240 --> 1:00:35.800 Joe Burrow. I mean, hopefully that was this, this rare 1:00:35.880 --> 1:00:37.120 or whatever that he's gonna leave. 1:00:37.160 --> 1:00:38.280 But I don't blame him in a way. 1:00:38.640 --> 1:00:40.640 The Bengals aren't getting anybody to play around him. 1:00:40.560 --> 1:00:43.040 Since that Super Bowl run, So I don't blame him. 1:00:43.080 --> 1:00:45.040 If he wants to go, I think I want to too. 1:00:45.560 --> 1:00:46.000 No, I don't. 1:00:46.000 --> 1:00:48.760 I don't think that Joe Burrow's going anywhere. I think 1:00:48.800 --> 1:00:51.160 a lot of it is, man, it's frustration. Yes, you 1:00:51.200 --> 1:00:53.000 do not let a friend. You don't let a franchise 1:00:53.080 --> 1:00:54.760 quarterback get out of here. That's why they signed into 1:00:54.800 --> 1:00:57.800 that big old contract. So once again, Joe Burrow's not 1:00:57.840 --> 1:00:58.480 going anywhere. 1:00:58.520 --> 1:00:58.760 Now. 1:00:59.720 --> 1:01:02.120 It's sounds like he's a little bit upset because he's 1:01:02.160 --> 1:01:04.960 tired of losing, but we all are too. And the 1:01:05.000 --> 1:01:07.800 problem is though they can't they can't interview the whole 1:01:07.840 --> 1:01:10.640 team after a game, right, So they're gonna interview the 1:01:10.680 --> 1:01:13.880 star players, and normally it's the quarterback, a wide receiver, 1:01:13.960 --> 1:01:17.560 and maybe a defensive guy. So if you ask everybody 1:01:17.640 --> 1:01:21.360 that same question, you're gonna get sixty seventy eighty percent 1:01:21.360 --> 1:01:24.080 of them saying, hey, listen, we just got to get better. 1:01:24.440 --> 1:01:27.400 Joe Burrow has a voice and an opinion to say 1:01:27.440 --> 1:01:29.960 what he says, and that's what he says. I'm not 1:01:30.040 --> 1:01:33.280 having fun. Well, when you're losing, that's not fun. I 1:01:33.280 --> 1:01:36.000 don't care whatever sport it is. But when you're winning, 1:01:37.000 --> 1:01:39.760 it's fun. Nobody wants to lose, and that guy does 1:01:39.800 --> 1:01:40.920 not want to lose. 1:01:42.160 --> 1:01:44.640 But Dave, I mean, I know, I'm sure you agree that. 1:01:44.920 --> 1:01:46.280 I mean, I know we can't go in there and 1:01:46.360 --> 1:01:48.000 help Mike. You got to get a new coach bike, 1:01:48.040 --> 1:01:50.720 you got it. I mean, that's his job. But if 1:01:50.720 --> 1:01:51.080 we're not. 1:01:51.120 --> 1:01:53.160 Happy, we don't have to come back. I mean, you know, 1:01:53.200 --> 1:01:54.800 I mean, I'm just saying the fans, I think you 1:01:54.840 --> 1:01:55.680 do have a lot to say. 1:01:56.000 --> 1:01:57.400 I'm not saying we rule the roost. 1:01:57.440 --> 1:01:59.440 But do you think Zach Taylor is back next year? 1:01:59.440 --> 1:02:01.280 I'm so many yes, you. 1:02:01.280 --> 1:02:04.480 Will be baby back a way because of the continuity 1:02:04.720 --> 1:02:07.720 with the offense, now all bets are off. He's an 1:02:07.720 --> 1:02:12.160 offensive deal. If this team starts one in four or 1:02:12.200 --> 1:02:16.560 two and five, two and six, it finishes below five 1:02:16.640 --> 1:02:20.640 hundred and misses the playoffs next year, ar McCaddon. 1:02:20.800 --> 1:02:24.120 Yeah, it might be absolute Army, Cad might be ton Yes, 1:02:24.200 --> 1:02:25.560 you know, and I think Joe Burrow said it to 1:02:25.760 --> 1:02:28.560 Joe Burrow said in his presconference today that I have 1:02:28.720 --> 1:02:32.520 all the faith in my coaches. Yes, they come out there, 1:02:32.520 --> 1:02:34.760 they work hard, they get us prepared. I can understand that. 1:02:35.280 --> 1:02:39.400 But playing in the NFL or any sport, if you 1:02:39.520 --> 1:02:44.080 don't win, it's time to move on. And I'm not 1:02:44.120 --> 1:02:46.120 saying that Zach Taylor should going towhere. I like Zach, 1:02:46.720 --> 1:02:51.160 but I also understand too. Winning solves a lot of problems. 1:02:51.400 --> 1:02:55.160 And if you're not winning, officially, somebody, and it may 1:02:55.200 --> 1:02:58.040 not be Mike, It might be the fans of Cincinnati. 1:02:58.400 --> 1:03:00.520 They might get tired of it. And you know what, 1:03:00.560 --> 1:03:02.240 when you get tired of it, you don't do it. 1:03:02.280 --> 1:03:06.720 And if it starts hurting Mike's pocketbook, things could change. 1:03:07.000 --> 1:03:08.680 That might be some of the things that Joe Burrow 1:03:08.800 --> 1:03:12.720 is talking about. We need change. Bring in players, bring 1:03:12.760 --> 1:03:15.280 in people that want to win that know how to win, 1:03:15.840 --> 1:03:18.600 and we want to win now, because that's the only 1:03:18.640 --> 1:03:22.240 reason why these guys play the sport is to win championships. 1:03:22.680 --> 1:03:25.800 You don't play the sport just because now they're making 1:03:25.840 --> 1:03:28.040 a whole lot of money today and those paychecks look 1:03:28.080 --> 1:03:30.920 pretty good. But the ultimate goal at the end of 1:03:30.960 --> 1:03:33.600 the year is to be a champion. And if you're 1:03:33.600 --> 1:03:37.560 not a champion, why are you playing the game? And 1:03:37.640 --> 1:03:40.160 that's why this is going to be a defensive draft. 1:03:40.440 --> 1:03:43.280 And even in free agency you're bringing in defensive place. 1:03:44.960 --> 1:03:46.840 Some are saying, oh, it's going to take a year 1:03:47.040 --> 1:03:50.120 or two or longer to get this defense straightened out. No, 1:03:50.520 --> 1:03:53.160 look at what the Texans have done, look at what 1:03:53.960 --> 1:03:57.000 the Jags have done, and the Chicago Bears have done. 1:03:57.240 --> 1:04:00.400 They've taken double digit losses and now they're going to 1:04:00.440 --> 1:04:01.000 the playoffs. 1:04:01.000 --> 1:04:05.240 And you have an offensive minded head coach. Most of 1:04:05.280 --> 1:04:07.880 the head coaches that are coaching in the National Football League, 1:04:07.920 --> 1:04:10.640 a lot of them are defensive minded coaches. So if 1:04:10.680 --> 1:04:14.480 I'm a defensive minding guy, that means I'm more important 1:04:14.720 --> 1:04:19.120 and concerned about my defense. Zach Taylor's an offensive minded 1:04:19.200 --> 1:04:22.360 guy who was in the Rams. Under the Rams head coach. Yes, 1:04:22.960 --> 1:04:24.960 now he comes here and he's offensive minded guy. So 1:04:25.440 --> 1:04:28.240 Zach Taylor wants to throw the football forty to fifty times. 1:04:29.080 --> 1:04:32.080 A defensive minded coach is saying, put it on the 1:04:32.120 --> 1:04:34.800 ground so my defense can get out there and stop 1:04:34.840 --> 1:04:38.200 your offense. Zach Taylor's not concerned about what I'm not 1:04:38.240 --> 1:04:40.919 saying that They back that up. He is concerned about 1:04:40.920 --> 1:04:44.760 his defense, but he's more concerned about scoring points than 1:04:44.800 --> 1:04:45.480 anything else. 1:04:45.760 --> 1:04:48.439 And with that, we've got to take a break. We've 1:04:48.440 --> 1:04:50.920 reached the top of the seven o'clock hour. You're listening 1:04:50.920 --> 1:04:54.440 to the Tri State Chevy Dealers Postgame Sports Talk presented 1:04:54.480 --> 1:04:57.440 by R and L Carriers. He's David Foulcher. This is 1:04:57.520 --> 1:05:00.760 Chick Ludwig. 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There are over 1:07:30.600 --> 1:07:33.880 three hundred and fifty BMW centers in the United States, 1:07:34.080 --> 1:07:38.040 but there's only one store, the BMW Store where Passion 1:07:38.480 --> 1:07:42.160 Loves Company. I'd like to be driving a BMW now 1:07:42.320 --> 1:07:45.920 like Ken Brew and his wife. Oh yeah, all right, 1:07:46.240 --> 1:07:49.800 the drive of the game. How about saving Gosh the 1:07:49.840 --> 1:07:53.479 best for last? When the Bengals finally took a lead, yes, 1:07:54.200 --> 1:07:58.480 one twenty nine to go, it highlighted the seven place 1:07:58.560 --> 1:08:03.760 sixty one yard scoring Jamar Chase catches a four yard 1:08:03.760 --> 1:08:07.919 touchdown pass from Joe Burrow, giving the Bengals. 1:08:07.640 --> 1:08:10.000 A short lived eighteen to seventeen league. 1:08:10.000 --> 1:08:12.800 They went for the two point conversion, it got knocked down, 1:08:13.160 --> 1:08:17.240 didn't didn't get it, but the Bengals couldn't protect the 1:08:17.280 --> 1:08:18.719 final one twenty nine. 1:08:18.880 --> 1:08:22.280 Yeah, and someone called about, you know, giving them time 1:08:22.320 --> 1:08:26.120 on the clock. It's you know, it's hard. It's hard 1:08:26.160 --> 1:08:30.120 to let cord. It's hard to let the clock run out. 1:08:30.280 --> 1:08:33.680 When you're down, you know, you have to go and 1:08:33.680 --> 1:08:38.080 score a touchdown. But then defensively, you've got to stop people. 1:08:38.960 --> 1:08:41.120 Other teams are doing it in the NFL, they're stopping 1:08:41.120 --> 1:08:44.640 them at certain times. So why are we struggling so much? 1:08:44.720 --> 1:08:49.720 That's why I believe that next year's additions to the 1:08:49.760 --> 1:08:53.280 Cincinnati Bengals should be all defense, because if you put 1:08:53.280 --> 1:08:55.200 all defense, and I'm not saying the defensive guys we 1:08:55.320 --> 1:08:58.320 got are bad. Some of them need to be better tackler, 1:08:58.400 --> 1:08:59.880 some of them need to be this and that. But 1:09:00.800 --> 1:09:03.120 you don't need you don't need another wide receiver, you 1:09:03.120 --> 1:09:04.519 don't need another running back. 1:09:04.360 --> 1:09:07.040 You don't need another this. You might need a lineman. 1:09:08.080 --> 1:09:12.479 But defensively, we're going we're stacking on defense. We need edge, 1:09:12.640 --> 1:09:15.320 we need interior, we need you know, we got some 1:09:15.360 --> 1:09:18.679 pretty good young young linebackers, but we need defensive guys 1:09:19.160 --> 1:09:22.640 because I think Joe Burrow would love to have a 1:09:22.680 --> 1:09:24.960 better defense than he had this year because of the 1:09:25.000 --> 1:09:26.960 stuff that he does on offense, no doubt. 1:09:27.240 --> 1:09:31.160 And Rock speaking from the defensive standpoint, what does the 1:09:31.200 --> 1:09:34.280 push up the middle by the defensive tackles, what does 1:09:34.320 --> 1:09:36.640 that do and the edge rushers? What does that do 1:09:36.760 --> 1:09:39.360 for the secondary? Well, it makes it easy to cover. 1:09:40.160 --> 1:09:42.680 It makes it it makes it easy to defend when 1:09:42.720 --> 1:09:45.080 you're back, when you're out there and you're chasing a 1:09:45.200 --> 1:09:47.720 man who's running around the field and you have no 1:09:47.800 --> 1:09:50.960 idea where he's going, it gives him all the opportunity 1:09:50.960 --> 1:09:53.320 in the world to do that. Even the day's game, 1:09:53.479 --> 1:09:55.960 there were a lot of times that Sanders was back 1:09:55.960 --> 1:09:58.400 there looking for somebody to throw the ball to and 1:09:58.439 --> 1:10:01.040 he couldn't find him. You know why, because those guys 1:10:01.040 --> 1:10:04.439 were covered. They were covered today, and then it gives 1:10:04.800 --> 1:10:08.519 an opportunity to make plays. And that defensive line made 1:10:08.520 --> 1:10:11.120 some plays today. Sacked in six times. Yes, when was 1:10:11.160 --> 1:10:15.000 the last time this defense sacked anybody six times in 1:10:15.000 --> 1:10:15.360 the game? 1:10:15.840 --> 1:10:16.519 Not this year? 1:10:16.640 --> 1:10:20.960 And they had opportunities for interceptions oh yeah, Ginalstone, there 1:10:20.960 --> 1:10:22.439 was one of them. Came right in front of genal Thtone. 1:10:22.520 --> 1:10:24.240 He was going for the hit. Ball comes right over 1:10:24.320 --> 1:10:24.719 the top. 1:10:24.560 --> 1:10:24.920 Of the guy. 1:10:25.040 --> 1:10:27.360 You intercept that ball, you're not gonna get every hit. 1:10:27.439 --> 1:10:30.879 And in this case Geno Stone, who's missing tackles anyway, 1:10:31.120 --> 1:10:32.439 go get the damn ball and. 1:10:32.520 --> 1:10:33.160 Go get the ball. 1:10:33.240 --> 1:10:35.519 And had he not, if he would have whiffed on it. 1:10:35.640 --> 1:10:39.479 The guy behind him, Yes, the Bengals interception, Yes, and 1:10:39.520 --> 1:10:42.200 he's laying there on the ground like, man, I had it. 1:10:42.280 --> 1:10:45.559 I had it, but Gino chipped it away. 1:10:45.720 --> 1:10:49.519 Now I just think that again, this football team is 1:10:49.560 --> 1:10:51.920 a good football team. It's probably one of the best 1:10:52.400 --> 1:10:54.920 non playoff teams that are not in there right now. 1:10:55.439 --> 1:10:57.840 So we got to figure out going forward, what's our 1:10:57.840 --> 1:10:58.320 next step. 1:10:58.720 --> 1:10:59.880 What do we do next? 1:11:00.280 --> 1:11:03.280 I think you're gonna have to find some free agency 1:11:03.479 --> 1:11:06.240 veterans out there. I'm not talking about a twelve year guy. 1:11:06.680 --> 1:11:08.680 I'm talking about somebody that playing that five to ten 1:11:08.760 --> 1:11:11.760 year range that could help a younger player develop and 1:11:11.800 --> 1:11:12.640 get where they need to be. 1:11:13.040 --> 1:11:14.200 We've got two young. 1:11:14.080 --> 1:11:19.519 Rookie linebackers that are pretty good except their green and 1:11:19.560 --> 1:11:21.519 they're running out of that they're running out of space. 1:11:21.560 --> 1:11:22.960 They're just running up and down the field. 1:11:24.000 --> 1:11:27.000 A veteran linebacker, Wilson that we got rid of and 1:11:27.040 --> 1:11:30.519 we send him the Dallas said. He's the captain of 1:11:30.560 --> 1:11:33.040 the defense. And you get rid of him, you bitch 1:11:33.120 --> 1:11:35.160 him because this guy runs the four to three and 1:11:35.160 --> 1:11:37.800 I run a four to six. But what Wilson is 1:11:37.800 --> 1:11:40.920 bringing to the table is knowledge, yes, And I'll take 1:11:40.960 --> 1:11:44.120 knowledge over speed in youth any day. But that guy 1:11:44.160 --> 1:11:47.200 who's learning from Wilson, I mean a couple of years 1:11:47.240 --> 1:11:49.040 from now, he'll be the new Wilson. 1:11:49.720 --> 1:11:51.120 See. And that's how you staff. 1:11:51.200 --> 1:11:54.479 That's how you build a football team by not just 1:11:54.520 --> 1:11:57.000 getting rid of the old guy, but letting the old 1:11:57.000 --> 1:11:59.920 guy help the young guy come along. And then now 1:12:00.120 --> 1:12:01.519 gonna be a better football team by that. 1:12:01.560 --> 1:12:04.759 And you know what that reminds me of the Pittsburgh Steelers. 1:12:04.760 --> 1:12:06.639 Oh yeah, the way they do it. They know how 1:12:06.640 --> 1:12:08.840 to develop, they know how to go out and find 1:12:09.000 --> 1:12:12.880 if they if they go lose a linebacker, let me 1:12:12.920 --> 1:12:15.240 tell you next year's draft, they gonna go find that 1:12:15.400 --> 1:12:18.760 same guy that they lost and some college somewhere else. 1:12:19.000 --> 1:12:22.360 And when he comes in, he's playing in a system 1:12:22.400 --> 1:12:24.880 that he may have played in college, so they ran 1:12:24.920 --> 1:12:26.840 a three to four in college, or they ran a 1:12:26.840 --> 1:12:29.120 three three five in college, and we bring him in 1:12:29.160 --> 1:12:31.040 here as a linebacker and we're. 1:12:30.960 --> 1:12:32.120 Running that same defense. 1:12:32.640 --> 1:12:34.640 The only difference between that guy and the guy that 1:12:34.760 --> 1:12:37.639 was there before is the last name and the change 1:12:37.680 --> 1:12:38.200 of the number. 1:12:38.640 --> 1:12:40.960 Or he's already there and that he's ready. 1:12:42.479 --> 1:12:43.040 Experience. 1:12:43.160 --> 1:12:45.200 Oh yeah, they plug him right in, blug him right in. 1:12:45.360 --> 1:12:49.519 Man, we know, chick, wait, we needed the Bengals need 1:12:49.520 --> 1:12:52.640 a general manager? Can you get out of radio? And 1:12:52.920 --> 1:12:54.280 maybe I can get out of this and I'll be 1:12:54.320 --> 1:12:56.240 a general manager. You know, I just know a little 1:12:56.240 --> 1:12:57.920 bit about football, and I'm not trying to say they 1:12:57.920 --> 1:13:01.400 don't know. But as a former player, all I want 1:13:01.439 --> 1:13:03.960 to do is see this team win. And how can 1:13:04.000 --> 1:13:06.800 I make that happen by sitting up in the press 1:13:06.840 --> 1:13:10.040 box looking at uniforms when I can be helping this 1:13:10.080 --> 1:13:13.240 football team secondary do what they do. I missed a 1:13:13.240 --> 1:13:15.479 few tackles in my careers, not a whole lot of them, 1:13:15.520 --> 1:13:16.200 but I missed a few. 1:13:16.640 --> 1:13:19.200 But when it hurt. 1:13:19.080 --> 1:13:22.519 For someone who played the game to go up and say, hey, man, 1:13:22.920 --> 1:13:23.800 what are you looking at? 1:13:23.880 --> 1:13:25.559 What do you watch? When you back up in an 1:13:25.560 --> 1:13:27.679 extra set of eyes. Yeah, an extra set of eyes. 1:13:27.720 --> 1:13:29.559 I watched the secondary on the snap of the ball 1:13:29.600 --> 1:13:32.759 before pre snap. These guys are twenty five yards d 1:13:33.400 --> 1:13:35.360 and the ball ain't ben snap yet, and guess what 1:13:35.600 --> 1:13:37.280 tight ends to catch the ball across the middle. 1:13:37.560 --> 1:13:40.840 I would never let that allow that to happen. Troy 1:13:40.880 --> 1:13:44.320 Aikman's going down to what and advising the Dolphins and 1:13:44.400 --> 1:13:45.960 vicely Dolphins on a coach. 1:13:46.680 --> 1:13:49.679 Troy Aikman, who played for the Cowboys, who's on TV 1:13:49.960 --> 1:13:54.200 doing commentating, He's gonna be a head coach advisory for 1:13:54.479 --> 1:13:56.920 the Miami Dolphins. Are you kidding me? 1:13:57.640 --> 1:14:02.360 And Tom Brady is part owner of the Ross Vegas Raider. 1:14:02.439 --> 1:14:05.320 He's on TV and radio talking about games, and I'm going, 1:14:06.200 --> 1:14:08.240 are you kidding me? Why is it that everybody else 1:14:08.280 --> 1:14:11.640 wants to do that but we don't. How about inside information? 1:14:11.920 --> 1:14:14.840 Inside information? Man? I would love to be a scott. 1:14:14.880 --> 1:14:16.560 I would love to be a scout for the Bengals. 1:14:17.040 --> 1:14:19.680 Send me to tim Buck two or California. Let me 1:14:19.720 --> 1:14:22.040 watch some players, and I'm gonna come back with a 1:14:22.040 --> 1:14:24.479 football player. I guarantee I'll come back with somebody that 1:14:24.520 --> 1:14:26.800 can play from some college somewhere. 1:14:26.520 --> 1:14:30.920 David, you're going to the the blue turf at Hayes, Kansas. 1:14:31.240 --> 1:14:33.360 I'm on my way at Fort Hayes State. I'm on 1:14:33.400 --> 1:14:35.800 my way and I bumped into Duke Tobin when I 1:14:35.840 --> 1:14:38.920 covered the club. He says, yeah, I've been there. Yeah, 1:14:39.479 --> 1:14:40.960 leave no stone unturned. 1:14:41.000 --> 1:14:43.880 You've been there. But have you brought anybody from there 1:14:43.920 --> 1:14:45.800 to come for your team? 1:14:45.920 --> 1:14:46.120 You know? 1:14:46.240 --> 1:14:50.800 Not and not not Every uh uh National championship team 1:14:51.439 --> 1:14:53.360 has all the players that could play in the NFL. 1:14:53.840 --> 1:14:57.600 Is somebody out there and and and wherever that country is, 1:14:57.640 --> 1:15:00.479 that town is that can play from a small school. 1:15:00.720 --> 1:15:02.679 But you gotta go out there and see him. Look 1:15:02.680 --> 1:15:05.080 at the film develop and see what they got. Paul 1:15:05.120 --> 1:15:09.360 Brown saw film on me from Dick Lebow and bral 1:15:09.400 --> 1:15:12.280 Brown said, well, that's not a safety. That's a damn linebacker. 1:15:12.320 --> 1:15:14.920 He said, you dude, you know what Lebo told him. 1:15:15.560 --> 1:15:17.840 That's the best safety we probably will ever have on 1:15:17.880 --> 1:15:21.200 this football team. And when they drafted me, and Paul 1:15:21.240 --> 1:15:23.400 Brown looked at me face and face and he said, 1:15:24.400 --> 1:15:28.280 you're not a linebacker. I say, Coach, I'm a safety. 1:15:29.000 --> 1:15:31.840 I'm big as a linebacker. Just let me play. And 1:15:31.880 --> 1:15:35.880 you know what the rest is history? Absolutely it is. 1:15:35.920 --> 1:15:36.759 It's the rest of history. 1:15:36.760 --> 1:15:39.000 But you gotta know, you have to know your players. 1:15:39.040 --> 1:15:41.080 You got to know what's going on out there. Don't 1:15:41.120 --> 1:15:43.400 just look at TV and say, oh, that guy plays 1:15:43.400 --> 1:15:46.120 for Nebraska or he plays for Oklahoma. Oh that's the 1:15:46.200 --> 1:15:47.920 number one team in the country. Well what about the 1:15:47.920 --> 1:15:50.800 team that's forty fifth in the country. They got athletes. 1:15:51.680 --> 1:15:54.040 Look at the film. You want somebody to tackle them, 1:15:54.200 --> 1:15:56.240 a be around the football. I'm gonna go look at 1:15:56.240 --> 1:15:58.760 a guy who's around the football on every play. You 1:15:58.800 --> 1:16:01.200 know what, he's gonna become an athlete from me in 1:16:01.240 --> 1:16:01.719 the NFL. 1:16:02.400 --> 1:16:05.240 That's David Folts. That's the Rick and bow Man's exactly right. 1:16:05.280 --> 1:16:07.400 And this is Chick Ludwig. We're live at Wings and 1:16:07.520 --> 1:16:11.080 Rings in Liberty Township and you're listening to the Tri 1:16:11.200 --> 1:16:15.480 State Chevy Dealer's postgame sports Talk presented by RNL Carriers 1:16:15.880 --> 1:16:18.759 following the bengals twenty to eighteen loss to the Cleveland 1:16:18.760 --> 1:16:23.679 Browns on seven hundred WLW and Cincinnati ESPN fifteen thirty. 1:16:26.200 --> 1:16:29.320 Good to talk to you, man. What a great day, man, 1:16:29.360 --> 1:16:30.160 What a great day. 1:16:30.160 --> 1:16:32.920 Here in Ings and Me, you are listening to the 1:16:33.000 --> 1:16:37.040 Tri State Chevy Dealers. Postgame Sports Talk presented by RNL 1:16:37.120 --> 1:16:42.640 carriers Chick Ludwig alongside Faux Rock, David Fulcher, Fultures, Vultures, 1:16:42.960 --> 1:16:45.760 and the Chick Magnets are here tonight at Wings and 1:16:45.840 --> 1:16:49.320 Rings Liberty Township. Man, we're having a blast and hey, 1:16:49.360 --> 1:16:53.360 we just had and what an eighth grader? Yes, come 1:16:53.439 --> 1:16:58.120 up to the table and ask David Fulcher, you got. 1:16:58.000 --> 1:16:59.719 Any tips for me? Tips? 1:17:00.000 --> 1:17:04.439 Can you give the listeners the cliffs notes version of 1:17:04.479 --> 1:17:06.640 what you told that young man? Well? I told him. 1:17:06.680 --> 1:17:08.160 I said, first of all, make it bead up when 1:17:08.160 --> 1:17:09.920 you get out in the morning. Got to make it 1:17:09.960 --> 1:17:11.360 beat up. Take care of your house, take care of 1:17:11.360 --> 1:17:14.439 clean go to class because you can't play sports with 1:17:14.479 --> 1:17:16.400 if you don't have the grades. And then number two, 1:17:16.479 --> 1:17:19.240 man play it from the heart. Don't play it from 1:17:19.280 --> 1:17:21.439 the money, because you know what You're gonna get paid 1:17:21.479 --> 1:17:23.280 no matter what you do. But if you play the 1:17:23.320 --> 1:17:26.320 game because you love playing it, people are gonna appreciate 1:17:26.360 --> 1:17:29.280 what you do. And if you do that daily, you're 1:17:29.280 --> 1:17:32.200 gonna be successful. I didn't say winners, wins and losses. 1:17:32.560 --> 1:17:34.800 I said take care of your business. And if they 1:17:34.840 --> 1:17:37.720 take care of theirs. You're doing your job. And that's 1:17:37.720 --> 1:17:42.760 what I tried to tell him. That's beautiful, man, that's beautiful. David. Yeah, 1:17:42.800 --> 1:17:43.840 great stuff. 1:17:44.400 --> 1:17:48.920 And I loved what Dion Sanders said about the name, 1:17:49.080 --> 1:17:53.759 image and likeness and guys opting out of their bowl 1:17:53.800 --> 1:17:57.200 games jumping into the transfer portal. And he said, a 1:17:57.200 --> 1:17:59.920 lot of guys are doing really the wrong thing. 1:18:00.080 --> 1:18:00.479 Oh they are. 1:18:00.479 --> 1:18:04.599 That could jeopardize their college careers and their future careers. 1:18:06.600 --> 1:18:11.000 He said, I never chased the money. I chased greatness. 1:18:11.280 --> 1:18:14.280 And when greatness came, here come the money. Here come 1:18:14.320 --> 1:18:15.519 the money. And that's how it is. 1:18:15.560 --> 1:18:18.600 Man. You play this game because you love playing it. 1:18:19.360 --> 1:18:22.559 My grandson is saying goodbye, bye bye man. See you, buddy, 1:18:22.560 --> 1:18:29.280 Papaul big Man. If you're chasing greatness, okay. And Paul 1:18:29.320 --> 1:18:31.720 Brown and Mike Brown said this to me many many 1:18:31.800 --> 1:18:33.599 years ago when I came into the league. He says, 1:18:35.080 --> 1:18:38.160 you keep doing your job. We're gonna keep paying you. 1:18:38.800 --> 1:18:39.000 Now. 1:18:39.040 --> 1:18:41.080 You know, we got some pennies back in the day. 1:18:41.080 --> 1:18:43.720 They're making a whole lot of money today. When he 1:18:43.800 --> 1:18:45.640 told me that, I said, all you want me to 1:18:45.680 --> 1:18:46.439 do is hit people. 1:18:47.840 --> 1:18:48.320 I like that. 1:18:48.720 --> 1:18:51.960 Yes, So I'm gonna like my paycheck because I'm gonna 1:18:52.000 --> 1:18:54.400 go out there and hit you, and then Mike Brown's 1:18:54.400 --> 1:18:57.519 gonna pay me or Paul Brown's gonna pay me. And 1:18:57.920 --> 1:19:01.479 once again, I give all the the glory to obviously 1:19:01.800 --> 1:19:04.880 my Lord and Jesus Jesus Christ. But when they drafted 1:19:04.920 --> 1:19:06.880 me and they brought me in here, Dick la Boll said, 1:19:07.479 --> 1:19:09.639 I got a safety, but he don't look like one. 1:19:10.439 --> 1:19:11.880 But I got a guy that I'll tell you what 1:19:12.120 --> 1:19:15.160 his motor. He's gonna be around in football all the time. 1:19:15.760 --> 1:19:17.200 And that's what I wanted to give them, and I 1:19:17.200 --> 1:19:19.120 wanted to give the city of Cincinnati. 1:19:19.920 --> 1:19:22.240 Rock before we reached the bottom of the hour break 1:19:23.640 --> 1:19:27.439 the season ends. You walk in the locker room after 1:19:27.479 --> 1:19:30.080 the game, you're gonna look around and you're gonna say 1:19:32.400 --> 1:19:35.800 to all your teammates, you're gonna look around and some 1:19:35.880 --> 1:19:37.640 of you gentlemen are not going to be here. 1:19:37.760 --> 1:19:38.400 Then I be here. 1:19:38.439 --> 1:19:41.320 Yeah. So it's there's a lot of emotion that's got 1:19:41.320 --> 1:19:44.479 to be going through you the last game of the season. 1:19:44.479 --> 1:19:47.200 When you walk in that locker room, you know this 1:19:47.240 --> 1:19:51.640 is this game was not just a game against the 1:19:51.680 --> 1:19:55.080 Browns and against the Bengals. On the NFL. This was 1:19:55.240 --> 1:20:00.719 an audition for these guys, yes, for next year, because 1:20:00.720 --> 1:20:03.479 a lot of these guys won't be back. These guys 1:20:03.520 --> 1:20:06.680 are going to go other places. They need to have 1:20:06.720 --> 1:20:09.320 some film on them so people can see them. So 1:20:10.360 --> 1:20:12.680 and I heard Zach Taylor when they were in the 1:20:12.680 --> 1:20:14.880 locker room talking to him, and I thought I heard 1:20:14.920 --> 1:20:20.559 a little bit of tearness in his voice because he 1:20:20.640 --> 1:20:23.559 is so close to these guys for the last many 1:20:23.600 --> 1:20:26.439 years he's been here. That some of them won't be here, 1:20:27.160 --> 1:20:29.479 some of the coaches may not be here, because this 1:20:29.520 --> 1:20:32.559 is what happens in football. In sports, you lose players, 1:20:32.640 --> 1:20:36.439 you gain players. And when you go in there and 1:20:36.479 --> 1:20:39.120 you look at him, you know, like I would give 1:20:39.120 --> 1:20:42.160 an example of being on the defense and I'm playing 1:20:42.200 --> 1:20:44.920 on this defensive backfield and some of the guys who 1:20:44.960 --> 1:20:48.479 have struggled Gino Stone a lot of mistackles. You know, 1:20:48.920 --> 1:20:51.000 a lot of guys struggle that they may not be here. 1:20:52.200 --> 1:20:54.559 You could be my opponent next year, or you could 1:20:54.600 --> 1:20:58.240 be out of the NFL. So for all the love 1:20:58.280 --> 1:21:00.320 that I have for my brothers, now you gonna be 1:21:00.360 --> 1:21:03.439 on another team or in another city. Still love you, man. 1:21:03.640 --> 1:21:05.880 When we play for another team, I can't love you 1:21:06.720 --> 1:21:08.760 like I want to. I'm not gonna try to hurt you, 1:21:09.080 --> 1:21:11.920 but I'm trying to beat you. So this is probably 1:21:11.920 --> 1:21:15.920 the hardest thing to go in, especially when this is 1:21:15.920 --> 1:21:20.320 a playoff caliber type of football team atmosphere, and for 1:21:20.400 --> 1:21:22.880 three years in a row we have not gotten there. 1:21:23.080 --> 1:21:23.679 And that's hard. 1:21:23.760 --> 1:21:27.320 Chick. Oh, it's gotta be absolutely because you're not You're 1:21:27.360 --> 1:21:30.439 not gonna get that brotherly love anymore because they're gone. 1:21:30.600 --> 1:21:32.960 When them guys clean today, when they walked out of there, 1:21:33.760 --> 1:21:36.800 most of them clean out their lockers today, or they're 1:21:36.800 --> 1:21:40.240 gonna come on Monday and clean out their lockers because 1:21:40.680 --> 1:21:45.799 that locker room is gonna be closed down by tomorrow. 1:21:46.320 --> 1:21:48.599 So some of them guys already have their flights ready 1:21:48.640 --> 1:21:50.639 to go, and some of them may not be back. 1:21:51.640 --> 1:21:55.040 Some of them might even had their cars running. Yeah, 1:21:55.240 --> 1:21:57.519 cars probably are pushing the button get the car warmed 1:21:57.560 --> 1:22:01.080 up before they got out there. Man, exactly, home and 1:22:01.200 --> 1:22:05.479 home could be the west coast, the East coast, somewhere 1:22:05.520 --> 1:22:06.680 that you got to drive and go. 1:22:06.680 --> 1:22:09.360 Home, somewhere where the sun might be shin at I'm 1:22:09.400 --> 1:22:12.519 telling you some might be shigning little warmer. The hours 1:22:12.520 --> 1:22:14.200 have changed. You never know. 1:22:14.680 --> 1:22:16.960 It's six o'clock here, but it might be three o'clock 1:22:17.240 --> 1:22:18.160 where they come from. 1:22:18.479 --> 1:22:19.000 You never know. 1:22:19.120 --> 1:22:23.240 Man, Hey, hey, thanks so much for cost of coming out. Yes, yes, 1:22:23.320 --> 1:22:24.320 good to see it, man. 1:22:24.520 --> 1:22:29.200 And now, gosh, preparation really starts for next year. 1:22:29.479 --> 1:22:31.599 This is it, man, This is right now. What you're 1:22:31.640 --> 1:22:34.880 doing is you're getting rid of all this stuff. Football 1:22:34.960 --> 1:22:36.559 is over. You might want to. I don't even know 1:22:36.600 --> 1:22:38.479 if the players are gonna look at the game film 1:22:38.840 --> 1:22:40.960 from the day because it doesn't matter because when you 1:22:41.000 --> 1:22:42.880 look at the game field today, you're prepared and preparing 1:22:42.920 --> 1:22:45.880 for next week. So really it's you watch the game 1:22:45.880 --> 1:22:48.560 on your own. But right now, these coaches have to 1:22:48.560 --> 1:22:52.320 get themselves ready for the draft and any free agency 1:22:52.360 --> 1:22:53.960 that are out there, and the guys they want to 1:22:53.960 --> 1:22:57.040 come back. You know, Zach Taylor's gonna get with every 1:22:57.080 --> 1:22:59.439 position coach and they're gonna talk about all their players, 1:22:59.840 --> 1:23:02.360 and those players are hey, is he coming back? Do 1:23:02.439 --> 1:23:04.080 we keep him? Do we want him? What are we 1:23:04.080 --> 1:23:07.280 gonna do? And this is how you make up the draft, 1:23:07.760 --> 1:23:11.000 because you know you're gonna lose three dbs or two 1:23:11.080 --> 1:23:12.000 d linemen. 1:23:11.880 --> 1:23:14.439 At least a third, at least a third, if not 1:23:14.600 --> 1:23:15.800 half the roster. 1:23:15.880 --> 1:23:17.760 Taff of a roster could come out. It's the same 1:23:17.760 --> 1:23:19.360 way when they come in and they do the roster, 1:23:19.600 --> 1:23:22.519 they come out with eighty five, eighty five, ninety guys. 1:23:23.160 --> 1:23:25.320 They gotta get it down in fifty five, well sixty 1:23:25.320 --> 1:23:27.920 three and before you know it done thirty guys. Man, 1:23:28.240 --> 1:23:32.720 once you call you a friend, they're gone. They're gone, 1:23:32.760 --> 1:23:35.320 and you may see him again on another team, or 1:23:35.360 --> 1:23:38.439 they may be done with football. Period. It's a tough one. 1:23:38.439 --> 1:23:41.160 Man been there and done that. Man, been at that 1:23:41.200 --> 1:23:44.400 corner many times. Great stuff rock, Yeah, I appreciate it. 1:23:45.400 --> 1:23:48.240 You're listening to the Tri State Chevy Dealers post game 1:23:48.280 --> 1:23:52.240 sports Talk presented by Arnell Carriers. A little post mortem 1:23:52.680 --> 1:23:53.800 on the bengals. 1:23:53.400 --> 1:23:56.880 Twenty to eighteen loss to the Cleveland Browns today and 1:23:57.200 --> 1:23:59.880 a six and eleven season. When Joe Burrow went down, 1:24:00.000 --> 1:24:02.759 I said, oh my gosh, five and twelve is coming, 1:24:03.040 --> 1:24:05.519 and they went six and eleven. And the silver lining 1:24:05.520 --> 1:24:07.200 that we talked about at the top of the show. 1:24:07.800 --> 1:24:11.080 Some fans will appreciate it that the Bengals were drafting 1:24:11.400 --> 1:24:14.200 ninth instead of dropping to like eleven or twelve. 1:24:14.400 --> 1:24:16.960 You know, you know when you have a good season, man, 1:24:17.000 --> 1:24:20.160 when you're down in that twenty third, twenty fifth, twenty 1:24:20.200 --> 1:24:22.840 seventh pick in the draft because you're doing so well. 1:24:22.880 --> 1:24:26.760 But when you're picking early, this pick has to be 1:24:27.760 --> 1:24:31.400 a grand slam, not a base hit. This pick that 1:24:31.439 --> 1:24:33.680 the Bengals got to pick at number nine has to 1:24:33.720 --> 1:24:36.519 be a grand slam, somebody that could come in here 1:24:37.280 --> 1:24:41.240 and make a difference immediately. And then you just keep 1:24:41.240 --> 1:24:44.080 doing the same thing and each each pick, the second pick, 1:24:44.240 --> 1:24:46.120 the third pick, even when you go out and get 1:24:46.120 --> 1:24:48.760 free agents, you gotta get free agents men that are 1:24:48.800 --> 1:24:52.759 gonna be an impact player that makes a difference now, 1:24:53.200 --> 1:24:55.559 not three years from now. The rookies coming out of 1:24:55.600 --> 1:24:59.679 high college. They're gonna be playing behind veterans. Those guys 1:25:00.400 --> 1:25:03.240 we can rely on two and three and four years 1:25:03.240 --> 1:25:05.960 from now. But we have got to get a bona 1:25:06.040 --> 1:25:08.240 fide number one pick that is going to make an 1:25:08.280 --> 1:25:11.360 impact to this team right now on the defensive side 1:25:11.400 --> 1:25:11.920 of the ball. 1:25:12.439 --> 1:25:15.200 And you are listening to the tri Stage Chevy Dealers 1:25:15.479 --> 1:25:19.479 postgame sports Talk presented by RNL Carriers. He's David Folcher, 1:25:19.720 --> 1:25:22.120 this is Chick Ludwig. We're live at Wings and Rings 1:25:22.120 --> 1:25:25.400 and Liberty Township until eight thirty tonight the number to 1:25:25.479 --> 1:25:28.880 dial five one, three, seven, four, nine, seven thousand, one, 1:25:28.960 --> 1:25:32.880 eight hundred, the Big one seven hundred, WLW and Cincinnati's 1:25:33.120 --> 1:25:37.599 ESPN fifteen thirty listening to the tri Stage Chevy Dealers 1:25:37.640 --> 1:25:41.920 postgame Sports Talk presented by RNL Carriers. We're live at 1:25:42.000 --> 1:25:45.559 Wings and Rings, Liberty Township. He's David Fulcher, this is 1:25:45.640 --> 1:25:50.000 Chick Ludwig. We're continuing to discuss the bengals twenty to 1:25:50.040 --> 1:25:53.479 eighteen loss to the Cleveland Browns and the Bengals season 1:25:54.120 --> 1:25:57.519 and a reminder of fans out there. The postgame sports 1:25:57.520 --> 1:25:59.920 talk has brought to you in part by a door 1:26:00.160 --> 1:26:04.400 window company. They sell the best and service the rest. 1:26:05.000 --> 1:26:08.680 Now rock lets a review the Guilty Windows Window of 1:26:08.760 --> 1:26:12.760 Opportunity brought to you by Guilty Windows. The key to 1:26:12.880 --> 1:26:17.479 quality windows is trusting the pros Gilkey Windows. The Bengals 1:26:17.479 --> 1:26:21.800 are up six to nothing after missing the after the 1:26:21.800 --> 1:26:24.040 first touchdown and the missister point. 1:26:24.120 --> 1:26:25.960 Ye okay, now they're on the. 1:26:25.960 --> 1:26:28.240 Doorstep of scoring again. 1:26:29.160 --> 1:26:29.599 All right. 1:26:29.880 --> 1:26:33.840 They drive to the doorstep really of the Browns end zone. 1:26:34.200 --> 1:26:35.679 I think it was on a four yard line too. 1:26:36.000 --> 1:26:42.200 And for yard line Joe Burrow is aiming for was 1:26:42.240 --> 1:26:44.719 it t Higgins? T Higgins? Yeah? In the end zone? 1:26:45.200 --> 1:26:52.560 The ball gets deflected by is it Shelby Harris? And 1:26:52.760 --> 1:26:56.479 then Devin Bush takes it to the house, takes it 1:26:56.760 --> 1:27:01.200 ninety seven yards to the house. And it's just like that. 1:27:01.280 --> 1:27:04.080 It's seven to six, and think about it going and 1:27:04.120 --> 1:27:07.920 score a touchdown thirteen. Nothing looks a little bit better. 1:27:08.000 --> 1:27:10.720 Now Cleveland's really reeling. All of a sudden, we give 1:27:10.800 --> 1:27:11.200 him life. 1:27:13.040 --> 1:27:15.480 We're ready to run him out of the gym. Yeah, 1:27:15.520 --> 1:27:21.559 and everything changes, it does it And with another minute 1:27:21.640 --> 1:27:25.040 fifty seconds to go, it happens again. It happens again 1:27:26.040 --> 1:27:30.799 with Noahfense fumbling yep, and then running the ball into 1:27:30.840 --> 1:27:31.439 the end zone. 1:27:31.479 --> 1:27:33.640 You know, it's one thing that I could say about 1:27:34.120 --> 1:27:36.599 people who fumble. You know, you hit if you get 1:27:36.600 --> 1:27:39.400 a good shot on the guy and ball pops out. 1:27:39.479 --> 1:27:42.679 It happens. But he caught the football and now he's 1:27:42.760 --> 1:27:45.439 running for six to seven yards and what did they 1:27:45.439 --> 1:27:49.400 tell you? And Pop Warner football, Tuck it away, Tuck 1:27:49.439 --> 1:27:52.320 it away, squeeze it as tight as you can and 1:27:52.320 --> 1:27:54.800 don't let nobody take it out. And that's the second 1:27:54.880 --> 1:27:57.760 time he's done it. And both times that's what they 1:27:57.800 --> 1:28:00.640 were talking about. The both times that he fumbled, it 1:28:00.680 --> 1:28:04.320 was a touchdown. After the fumble in Minnesota, the guy 1:28:04.360 --> 1:28:06.439 picked it up, rand it back for a testdown, and 1:28:06.479 --> 1:28:08.639 then in this game he fled run back for a testdown. 1:28:09.680 --> 1:28:11.599 So the Browns just keep having it now. 1:28:11.680 --> 1:28:14.000 The brown scored with fifty six seconds to go in 1:28:14.040 --> 1:28:18.880 the first quarter on Devin Bush's ninety seven yard run 1:28:19.000 --> 1:28:23.439 back on the pick six, and then at the fourteen 1:28:23.880 --> 1:28:27.040 six mark of the second quarter, the Noah Fense fumble 1:28:27.200 --> 1:28:32.080 caused by Jerome Baker, the touchdown maker linebacker, and then 1:28:32.160 --> 1:28:35.280 Sam Webb scooped it up, it took it to the 1:28:35.320 --> 1:28:38.519 house forty seven yards and just like that, it's fourteen 1:28:38.560 --> 1:28:41.080 to six and the Bengals are fighting from behind. 1:28:41.200 --> 1:28:43.639 And when that's when we said this was a strange game. 1:28:44.160 --> 1:28:50.640 Very I looked at the emotion on the sideline, I 1:28:50.680 --> 1:28:54.160 heard the emotion up in the press box. It was 1:28:54.280 --> 1:28:58.840 very quiet, like no one was prepared or ready to 1:28:58.840 --> 1:29:02.280 play football than had really bad happen, which they did. 1:29:02.320 --> 1:29:07.080 Because two touchdowns gives the Browns fourteen points in their 1:29:07.080 --> 1:29:11.559 offense don't even have fourteen yards of offense and I'm thinking, 1:29:12.240 --> 1:29:14.679 this is a very weird game. When are we gonna 1:29:14.680 --> 1:29:16.559 get out of this funk? When are we gonna get 1:29:16.560 --> 1:29:18.479 out of this cloud? And we never got out of 1:29:18.520 --> 1:29:22.680 it until the last touchdown that we scored to put 1:29:22.760 --> 1:29:25.160 us up ahead, and then we were still in the 1:29:25.160 --> 1:29:29.400 cloud from our team, but we never really developed any 1:29:29.560 --> 1:29:32.760 kind of momentum in this football game at all. 1:29:33.560 --> 1:29:38.599 So early on the quick turnaround there, the Bengals are 1:29:38.600 --> 1:29:41.240 getting ready to go in and maybe go up thirteen 1:29:41.720 --> 1:29:46.240 to nothing. Yeah, that was the Guilty Windows window of 1:29:46.280 --> 1:29:49.080 opportunity once again brought to you by Guilty Windows. The 1:29:49.160 --> 1:29:52.880 key to quality windows is trusting the pros Kilkey Windows. 1:29:53.080 --> 1:29:56.360 And there was another one, that window of opportunity when 1:29:56.400 --> 1:29:59.360 that Bengals did take the lead and weren't able to 1:29:59.479 --> 1:30:04.639 stop the Browns on that final ten play forty yard 1:30:04.720 --> 1:30:07.760 drive that set up Andre Schmidt with the forty nine 1:30:07.800 --> 1:30:08.439 yard field goal. 1:30:08.479 --> 1:30:12.040 You know, we talked about, you know, cognunity, the cognunity, 1:30:12.040 --> 1:30:17.639 you know, the closeness of this team. When we scored 1:30:17.680 --> 1:30:24.679 that touchdown to go ahead. It would be nice because 1:30:24.680 --> 1:30:27.639 I've seen this happen before, especially on when I played 1:30:27.680 --> 1:30:31.240 on the teams the offense scored a touchdown Boomers. Sisin 1:30:31.360 --> 1:30:34.680 came in the defensive huddle before we ran out and 1:30:34.760 --> 1:30:40.160 gave us a little pep talk. Yes, like, okay, I 1:30:40.280 --> 1:30:42.200 put the ball in your hand down to win the game, 1:30:43.000 --> 1:30:47.480 don't let me down. Now, how many of those conversations 1:30:47.560 --> 1:30:50.000 do they have on this team. I'm not saying Joe 1:30:50.040 --> 1:30:52.120 Burrow go to the defensive huddle and say, hey, listen, 1:30:52.560 --> 1:30:54.600 it's time to clamp it up, shut them up, and 1:30:54.600 --> 1:31:02.040 get it done. But there's got to be somebody defensively, offensively, 1:31:02.320 --> 1:31:07.080 special teams coach that listen, it's in your hand. Now, 1:31:07.160 --> 1:31:09.960 take care of your business. Let's get off the field, 1:31:10.479 --> 1:31:12.400 Let's go home and have a good time. Let's go 1:31:12.439 --> 1:31:14.240 to the locker room and celebrate. But you got to 1:31:14.240 --> 1:31:17.479 take care of business. Does that happen? Someone text me 1:31:17.479 --> 1:31:22.240 and said, whatever happened to the no huddle offense? Like 1:31:22.360 --> 1:31:25.840 sense of urgency on offense? Yeah, we don't really have 1:31:25.920 --> 1:31:28.240 that sense of urgency on offense. I'm not saying that 1:31:28.280 --> 1:31:32.040 the offensive guys don't do it. But you see the 1:31:32.080 --> 1:31:34.200 Browns when they came out the second half. The Browns 1:31:34.200 --> 1:31:37.519 started the second half with running the football. Yes, no 1:31:37.640 --> 1:31:41.360 huddle trying to put the Bengals on the heels and 1:31:41.439 --> 1:31:43.479 trying to get them tired and wear them out. And 1:31:43.520 --> 1:31:45.519 what happened in that third court that first drive, the 1:31:45.520 --> 1:31:48.599 Browns went down the field. I don't think they scored, 1:31:48.880 --> 1:31:50.439 but they went down the field. They moved the ball 1:31:50.479 --> 1:31:52.400 a little bit. But you know what he was doing 1:31:52.439 --> 1:31:55.160 to the Bengals. It had the Bengals changing defensive players 1:31:55.320 --> 1:31:58.120 because they were getting tired. And when you do that, man, 1:31:58.439 --> 1:32:01.680 you have a sense of urgent. See someone text me 1:32:01.680 --> 1:32:05.320 and said, the difference between today's game and any other 1:32:05.360 --> 1:32:08.759 game was was there a sense of urgency on offense 1:32:09.400 --> 1:32:10.960 to attack the Cleveland Browns. 1:32:11.880 --> 1:32:15.200 And the Browns did score on that first drive that chewed. 1:32:15.000 --> 1:32:15.880 Up seven minutes. 1:32:15.920 --> 1:32:19.080 Think about it, twelve plays, fifty six yards and Schmidt 1:32:19.360 --> 1:32:21.920 kicked a twenty seven yard field goal to make it 1:32:22.000 --> 1:32:23.160 seventeen to twelve. 1:32:23.160 --> 1:32:26.479 But think about that, though that drive took seven minutes long, 1:32:26.520 --> 1:32:28.559 and of that drive, if it was how many plays 1:32:28.600 --> 1:32:31.320 twelve places, twelve plays, I tell you seven or eight 1:32:31.360 --> 1:32:33.920 of those plays were come to the line of scrimmage 1:32:33.960 --> 1:32:36.320 and let's go. And then in our case, when the Bengals, 1:32:36.320 --> 1:32:38.639 we call it, we called her set alert, set alert. 1:32:39.000 --> 1:32:40.640 Boomer will get up there, real quick, set alert, and 1:32:40.640 --> 1:32:43.040 the guys get ready to go, and the defense starts 1:32:43.040 --> 1:32:45.639 falling on the ground because he's trying to slow us down. 1:32:46.280 --> 1:32:48.280 You know what, That's what the Browns did at that 1:32:48.360 --> 1:32:53.040 first drive. Where's the sense of urgency of attacking the 1:32:53.080 --> 1:32:55.880 Cleveland Browns instead of letting them sit back there and 1:32:55.960 --> 1:32:56.639 make calls. 1:32:57.880 --> 1:33:00.320 And when you mentioned Boomer, it brings back a bad 1:33:00.360 --> 1:33:03.080 memory of nineteen ninety seven, my first full year on 1:33:03.120 --> 1:33:04.800 the beat in Philadelphia. 1:33:04.960 --> 1:33:05.160 Yeh. 1:33:05.360 --> 1:33:07.639 Boomer led the team to a four and one finish 1:33:07.720 --> 1:33:12.040 that year, and the one loss in November was in 1:33:12.080 --> 1:33:16.960 Philly after Brian Milne scored a touchdown and Bobby hoyingg 1:33:17.600 --> 1:33:22.559 hit Irving Fryar marched them down and Chris Boniol hit 1:33:22.640 --> 1:33:25.679 it at thirty one yard field goal at the gun, 1:33:26.360 --> 1:33:29.479 and Boomer threw his helmet in the locker room at 1:33:29.479 --> 1:33:32.400 the defense and said, you guys don't deserve your paychecks. 1:33:32.479 --> 1:33:35.680 I'm telling you, man, they that. How many people are 1:33:35.680 --> 1:33:38.719 saying that today? How many players are saying that today? 1:33:38.760 --> 1:33:40.720 I don't know. I'm not in the locker room. I'm 1:33:40.760 --> 1:33:43.439 not saying trying to start a feud or whatnot. But 1:33:44.000 --> 1:33:46.840 you know, as if I was a defensive guy and 1:33:46.880 --> 1:33:50.040 my offensive team was struggling on scoring, I'm gonna go 1:33:50.120 --> 1:33:52.960 say something to him, not negative. Come on, man, we 1:33:53.000 --> 1:33:56.160 worked hard this week. We worked hard on Wednesday beating 1:33:56.200 --> 1:33:58.240 each other up. Let's go out there and get this 1:33:58.320 --> 1:34:00.920 thing done. Let's bring this thing home them sixty eight 1:34:00.920 --> 1:34:03.679 thousand people that are screaming right now. Who's who pays 1:34:03.760 --> 1:34:06.080 part of our salary? They deserve better than what we're 1:34:06.080 --> 1:34:08.880 giving them. They know what it all change. Love it. 1:34:08.960 --> 1:34:10.799 Let's go out to the phones. Do we have Donald 1:34:10.880 --> 1:34:12.960 in Nashville still on the line. 1:34:13.080 --> 1:34:16.920 Hey Donald, Hey guys, how you doing good? 1:34:17.000 --> 1:34:17.200 Man? 1:34:17.240 --> 1:34:19.960 Good? I always love hearing you two guys talk. 1:34:20.040 --> 1:34:20.160 Man. 1:34:20.240 --> 1:34:24.120 Sure's it's a good good night on a bad day, 1:34:24.160 --> 1:34:27.840 I can tell you that. But uh, but uh, you 1:34:27.920 --> 1:34:30.280 guys are saying all the things I was calling about. 1:34:31.160 --> 1:34:33.320 One of the thing I was calling about is who's 1:34:33.360 --> 1:34:36.160 holding these people accountable for these in the states they 1:34:36.200 --> 1:34:39.240 continue to make I mean, even Joe Joe Burrow, it 1:34:39.400 --> 1:34:41.240 is like how many reachs in the road and if he 1:34:41.360 --> 1:34:44.559 throwing the pick sick or intercession that cost us the game? 1:34:45.040 --> 1:34:47.000 And no one's no one's hold him accountable. I want 1:34:47.000 --> 1:34:48.560 to hear them about the office in the line or 1:34:49.080 --> 1:34:49.960 the deeples to do this. 1:34:50.600 --> 1:34:51.760 The quarterback is is. 1:34:51.760 --> 1:34:55.360 Just throwing with state. You gotta stop that. I'm sorry, 1:34:55.360 --> 1:34:57.439 We're paying them too much money for us to be 1:34:57.479 --> 1:34:58.120 losing games. 1:34:58.160 --> 1:35:02.200 On pick six, I'm saying, seventh, seventh career pick six. 1:35:02.400 --> 1:35:04.680 You're right, You're right, And it stopped a. 1:35:04.720 --> 1:35:10.040 Streak of twelve consecutive possessions inside the red zone where 1:35:10.040 --> 1:35:13.080 the Bengals scored touchdowns. 1:35:12.479 --> 1:35:15.560 That was tough. They had twelve possessions. 1:35:15.680 --> 1:35:18.720 Yeah, it's fat. That's the tight end. I mean, you 1:35:18.760 --> 1:35:22.840 said it's so perfectly man, you can learn this warning. Yeah, 1:35:23.760 --> 1:35:26.680 this guy, it's almost I'm scared to catch the ball 1:35:26.680 --> 1:35:28.000 because I feel like hes gonna give it right back 1:35:28.040 --> 1:35:28.519 to you. 1:35:28.520 --> 1:35:30.720 You put they tell us when we were kids and 1:35:30.840 --> 1:35:34.400 Pop Warner, you put two hands on the ball and 1:35:34.439 --> 1:35:36.880 you cover that ball. You grabbed that ball like you're 1:35:36.880 --> 1:35:39.680 holding on to dear life. And they should never take 1:35:39.720 --> 1:35:41.280 that ball away from it if you've got two hands 1:35:41.280 --> 1:35:44.840 on it. And I don't know, I'm telling you, man, 1:35:44.880 --> 1:35:45.960 he he. 1:35:46.439 --> 1:35:50.200 Was my last comment. I mean to catch a big, big, 1:35:50.240 --> 1:35:53.599 full I'm sorry, sir, my last time. My last comment 1:35:53.760 --> 1:35:56.880 is the person who should be holding by account who's 1:35:56.880 --> 1:36:02.760 getting paid the most on the team, quarterback. Okay, So 1:36:02.960 --> 1:36:05.120 the reason why Boomer did that because you know, he 1:36:05.200 --> 1:36:06.400 was getting paid the most of the team. 1:36:06.600 --> 1:36:08.479 He was man, he was a million dollar player on 1:36:08.520 --> 1:36:10.200 the team that only had one guy making a million 1:36:10.200 --> 1:36:12.840 bucks and that was Boomer Sizing. And he opened up 1:36:12.880 --> 1:36:16.080 his mouth and we had a we had a a 1:36:16.240 --> 1:36:21.840 non coaching meeting conversation amongst the team, and when they 1:36:21.840 --> 1:36:24.880 started talking, the first thing we said was, it's not 1:36:24.920 --> 1:36:27.400 on the coaches, y'all, it's on us. And if we 1:36:27.439 --> 1:36:30.960 don't make plays, we don't win. And it changed. We 1:36:31.000 --> 1:36:33.639 did that in eighty seven, the strike year. We talked 1:36:33.640 --> 1:36:35.640 about that and what happened the following year. We go 1:36:35.680 --> 1:36:36.200 to Super Bowl. 1:36:37.439 --> 1:36:40.920 We got Mehadi Biz, we got porches. I mean, look 1:36:40.920 --> 1:36:43.920 at wide receiver. Man, don't get better at what we got. 1:36:44.280 --> 1:36:46.120 We can't get better what we got, And here we 1:36:46.200 --> 1:36:49.760 are playing like we got you know, savetts or a 1:36:49.840 --> 1:36:51.720 picture or something on the side, you know what I mean, 1:36:51.760 --> 1:36:54.280 what the what the crazy? 1:36:54.280 --> 1:36:56.680 We love to have what we got, no doubt, no 1:36:56.760 --> 1:36:59.920 doubt Heydonald, You've got it. 1:37:00.040 --> 1:37:00.519 Take a break. 1:37:00.560 --> 1:37:03.559 You're listening to the tri State Chevy Dealers Postgame Sports 1:37:03.560 --> 1:37:08.160 Talk presented by RNL Carriers, live from the Wings and 1:37:08.240 --> 1:37:09.519 Rings in Liberty Township. 1:37:09.560 --> 1:37:10.439 He's David Fulcher. 1:37:10.680 --> 1:37:15.479 This is Chick Ludwig seven hundred WLW in Cincinnati's ESPN 1:37:15.560 --> 1:37:22.360 fifteen thirty. You are listening to the tri State Chevy 1:37:22.400 --> 1:37:26.599 Dealers postgame Sports Talk with the Chickster, Chick Ludwig and 1:37:27.120 --> 1:37:31.560 Faux Rock David Fulcher picks. We're presented by RNL Carriers. 1:37:31.720 --> 1:37:34.960 We're live at Wings and Rings, Liberty Township and we're 1:37:35.000 --> 1:37:41.200 continuing to talk Cincinnati Bengals football twenty to eighteen loss 1:37:41.200 --> 1:37:44.559 today and then what the future holds. Let's go out 1:37:44.560 --> 1:37:46.520 to the phones. Matt in Springfield. 1:37:46.560 --> 1:37:50.200 Are you there, Matt, Hey, what's going on? Chicken and 1:37:50.400 --> 1:37:51.280 enjoy listening to y'all. 1:37:51.320 --> 1:37:54.360 Man, you all right appreciate it, say it that it's 1:37:54.400 --> 1:37:54.880 coming with. 1:37:56.000 --> 1:37:59.400 Yeah, yeah, last show the man. 1:38:00.360 --> 1:38:00.599 Yeah. 1:38:00.760 --> 1:38:03.720 I knew though. My cousin who's a Browns fan, man, 1:38:03.760 --> 1:38:05.080 he went with me, and I knew. 1:38:05.120 --> 1:38:06.880 I even told him, you know, when the time was 1:38:07.360 --> 1:38:09.040 that much time up from the clock, I told him 1:38:09.040 --> 1:38:10.800 I was like, watch, you all are going to get 1:38:10.800 --> 1:38:12.720 into the range. You're gonna kick the game, winnings will 1:38:12.720 --> 1:38:15.120 go and you're gonna be He was even telling me too, 1:38:15.120 --> 1:38:16.920 because he knows how the Browns have put him down. 1:38:16.960 --> 1:38:19.160 He's like, Oh no, that's not gonna happen, you know, 1:38:19.200 --> 1:38:21.920 because the way it's been going for us. But it's 1:38:21.960 --> 1:38:24.200 just been the tail all season long with this team. Man, 1:38:24.240 --> 1:38:25.880 it's coming up short. 1:38:25.920 --> 1:38:28.120 Every time. It's like they get they getting range to. 1:38:28.080 --> 1:38:30.479 Win, they leave too much time on the clock, and 1:38:30.560 --> 1:38:34.200 every single time the defense does something to let the 1:38:34.240 --> 1:38:37.479 team down. Every single time. It's been that way since 1:38:37.520 --> 1:38:39.920 the Jets game, Bears game, I mean too many games 1:38:39.920 --> 1:38:42.760 the list. So it's just the same story to. 1:38:42.880 --> 1:38:44.920 A very dreadful season. 1:38:44.960 --> 1:38:46.240 At the end of the day, though, I mean, we're 1:38:46.280 --> 1:38:50.320 picking what tenth now because the Chiefs won, So let's 1:38:50.320 --> 1:38:53.200 hope they can at least draft somebody that you know, 1:38:53.240 --> 1:38:57.519 can potentially be a playmaker. But I am getting nervous 1:38:57.520 --> 1:38:59.680 though with Burrows comments. Man after the game, Man, I 1:38:59.720 --> 1:39:03.280 hope he doesn't try to do uh a old you know, 1:39:03.400 --> 1:39:05.360 Chrison Palmer and forced his way out of town. I mean, 1:39:05.479 --> 1:39:08.080 I wouldn't blame him if that was to happen with 1:39:08.800 --> 1:39:10.960 this the way this franchise has let him down on 1:39:11.000 --> 1:39:13.160 the you know, with the defensive side of the ball, 1:39:13.640 --> 1:39:14.960 and he is getting up there in age. 1:39:15.040 --> 1:39:17.000 So I don't know, guys. 1:39:17.040 --> 1:39:19.080 I mean, it was fun though, to go down. 1:39:18.920 --> 1:39:20.360 You know, one last time for the season. 1:39:20.880 --> 1:39:23.200 You know, freezing at that place was act for the 1:39:23.240 --> 1:39:26.880 mac coll has actually surprised how many Browns fanas actually 1:39:26.880 --> 1:39:29.200 traveled there. It sounded like a Browns game. I don't 1:39:29.200 --> 1:39:31.360 know if y'all heard on TV, like a Brown's home game. 1:39:31.600 --> 1:39:34.000 You're a people chanting Miles Garrett after you got that sack. 1:39:34.520 --> 1:39:37.680 Oh wow there. 1:39:37.880 --> 1:39:40.960 I was like, many appreciate the call. Yeah, the Browns 1:39:41.040 --> 1:39:44.160 backers really are a worldwide. 1:39:43.560 --> 1:39:46.240 They follow the follow they really do. 1:39:46.360 --> 1:39:48.559 They're an unbelievable fan base. 1:39:49.160 --> 1:39:52.360 And well, yeah, when Miles Garrett got the sack, it 1:39:52.880 --> 1:39:55.879 did go a little crazy. They were like Miles Garrett. 1:39:55.880 --> 1:39:58.160 They kept saying, they kept saying it, and you know, 1:39:58.479 --> 1:40:02.439 we we knew it was coming. I was hoping that 1:40:02.520 --> 1:40:05.240 it didn't happen, but we knew it was coming. When 1:40:05.280 --> 1:40:08.000 it came, you know, there's really nothing you can say, man, 1:40:08.040 --> 1:40:11.080 You just you know, it's a sack. He got the 1:40:11.120 --> 1:40:15.720 he got the he got the The generosity of the 1:40:15.720 --> 1:40:17.639 fans is letting him know what's going on. 1:40:17.560 --> 1:40:22.240 But the generosity of the officials that let him celebrate. 1:40:21.880 --> 1:40:25.040 Without that that right there, I'm shocked that you know, 1:40:25.120 --> 1:40:27.680 the guys, you know the guys on TV as I'm 1:40:27.720 --> 1:40:30.040 looking at some of these TV screens and I see 1:40:30.080 --> 1:40:34.679 straight handing their group on Fox that nobody is talking about. 1:40:34.960 --> 1:40:36.880 And maybe they have and maybe we didn't see him, 1:40:36.920 --> 1:40:41.960 but nobody's talking about that scenario, that situation. That's because 1:40:41.960 --> 1:40:44.519 he got the sack, doesn't mean that the game is 1:40:44.520 --> 1:40:49.360 supposed to stop that sack live play ball is still going. 1:40:49.439 --> 1:40:51.880 Joe Burrow gets off the ground and the clock is 1:40:51.920 --> 1:40:54.240 supposed to be running for Joe to cut the team 1:40:54.280 --> 1:40:56.080 on the line of scrimma, and they called. 1:40:55.880 --> 1:40:58.120 Time out for the Browns to celebrate. 1:40:58.160 --> 1:41:01.280 That's a fifteen yard penalty. They could they could throw 1:41:03.240 --> 1:41:06.080 extra penalties on that and move the ball down the 1:41:06.120 --> 1:41:09.880 field with the Biggles being into him. Because players left 1:41:09.920 --> 1:41:13.880 the field to go out there and celebrate him. They 1:41:13.960 --> 1:41:17.640 stopped play for no reason. It wasn't fourth down. It 1:41:17.760 --> 1:41:20.599 was a sack and the play clock still runs, and 1:41:20.640 --> 1:41:24.280 the officials stopped the clock and then rewind it after 1:41:24.280 --> 1:41:26.400 everybody got off the field. There's no way, Jack, that's 1:41:26.400 --> 1:41:29.040 both to happen, Unbelievabay, you're exactly right. 1:41:29.280 --> 1:41:32.800 And you wonder if before the game there was any 1:41:32.920 --> 1:41:36.519 understanding that if he gets the sack record there will 1:41:36.560 --> 1:41:38.000 be a celebration. 1:41:37.720 --> 1:41:40.639 Unless the Browns called time out after he gets the sack. 1:41:41.200 --> 1:41:43.479 That we don't know, right, but I don't think it 1:41:43.520 --> 1:41:46.040 was a timeout call, no, because they were just standing 1:41:46.080 --> 1:41:49.160 in The referees were looking everybody's clapping, and then as 1:41:49.200 --> 1:41:51.679 a Brown started getting off the field, they head referee 1:41:51.720 --> 1:41:54.040 backed up and he went like this whind the clock? 1:41:54.760 --> 1:41:56.880 So wait a minute, why did the clock stop? 1:41:57.840 --> 1:42:01.160 And Zach Taylor's reaction to all this what is going 1:42:01.200 --> 1:42:03.559 on here led me to believe that there was no 1:42:03.760 --> 1:42:06.920 understanding that the clock that the game would stop it 1:42:07.400 --> 1:42:11.040 with an officials time out and letting the Cleveland Brown 1:42:11.080 --> 1:42:11.320 sell it. 1:42:11.439 --> 1:42:14.320 So and you made the state the comment earlier about 1:42:14.320 --> 1:42:16.280 Corey Dillon when he got the two hundred and seventy 1:42:16.320 --> 1:42:19.599 five yards wrestling and broke Walter Payton singles game wrestler. 1:42:19.880 --> 1:42:23.240 So the King didn't stop, No, Corey Dillon came to 1:42:23.280 --> 1:42:26.799 the sideline. Everybody's high fiving and they're still playing football 1:42:26.800 --> 1:42:30.000 on the field. I don't get it, man, But you 1:42:30.040 --> 1:42:32.479 know what, don't it only happens the Cincinnadi. I know 1:42:32.640 --> 1:42:34.400 it doesn't happen nobody else. That's exactly. 1:42:34.520 --> 1:42:37.559 Oh, yes, Hey, let's go out to the phones. John 1:42:37.680 --> 1:42:38.640 and Cedarville. 1:42:39.080 --> 1:42:42.920 Hi, John, Hey, let's talk to you and chick. 1:42:46.280 --> 1:42:48.320 Appreciate it, John, we're here. 1:42:50.160 --> 1:42:53.160 Hey, Yeah, how are you guys doing it? 1:42:53.479 --> 1:42:55.040 We're doing okay, hanging in. 1:42:56.800 --> 1:43:02.080 Hey, today's game. I mean, Miles Garrett I mean, hats 1:43:02.080 --> 1:43:05.680 off to him, but but I'm a Bengals fan and 1:43:05.840 --> 1:43:08.799 I really don't give a crap about Miles garrett Ory's record. 1:43:08.840 --> 1:43:13.880 But needs to say. They talked about the celebrations. They 1:43:13.880 --> 1:43:17.960 should have flagged them guys after those touchdowns that run back. 1:43:17.840 --> 1:43:21.719 In that stoop and go oh grabbing, grabbing the crotch. 1:43:23.479 --> 1:43:24.439 It wasn't like they. 1:43:24.280 --> 1:43:26.840 Were doing the gritty or the dagg on crib walk 1:43:26.960 --> 1:43:30.160 or something. I mean, you know, but I mean that 1:43:30.320 --> 1:43:30.879 was funky. 1:43:31.000 --> 1:43:34.880 How about the Los Angeles rams on the blockfield goal 1:43:34.960 --> 1:43:37.240 and the guy returns it and as he's running to 1:43:37.280 --> 1:43:41.320 the end zone. He looks at the sideline and gives 1:43:41.320 --> 1:43:45.400 a peace sign. Yes, he could find eleven thousand dollars. 1:43:45.400 --> 1:43:49.479 Oh yeah, and well them two guys that grabbed their crotch. Hey, 1:43:49.840 --> 1:43:51.080 I was up there in the press box. 1:43:51.560 --> 1:43:54.280 What do you What do you guys think about cameo 1:43:54.479 --> 1:43:55.200 Joe Flacco? 1:43:56.560 --> 1:43:59.240 Oh the cameo where he came out and got a 1:43:59.280 --> 1:44:00.719 first down on a quarterbacks? 1:44:00.960 --> 1:44:01.519 The quarterbacks? 1:44:01.560 --> 1:44:02.639 Yea, yeah, I love. 1:44:04.000 --> 1:44:05.640 Plays in both games. 1:44:06.080 --> 1:44:06.880 Is Joe Burrow? 1:44:06.960 --> 1:44:08.920 I'd like to know the stasisitions from this. 1:44:09.800 --> 1:44:14.280 How many batted balls does Joe Burrow have under center 1:44:14.800 --> 1:44:18.800 compared to end the shotguns and if they're if there 1:44:18.920 --> 1:44:22.320 is a significant difference, he needs to stop one or 1:44:22.360 --> 1:44:25.160 the other and quit standing back there like your Doug 1:44:25.200 --> 1:44:29.200 flutyin't getting everything batted back at you or tipped and intercepted. 1:44:30.680 --> 1:44:36.760 Yeah, John appreciate the call as always, there are so 1:44:36.840 --> 1:44:39.960 many issues right now with this club. 1:44:40.240 --> 1:44:42.680 But I was just trying to figure out when I 1:44:42.720 --> 1:44:44.400 heard that this call is being recorded. 1:44:44.439 --> 1:44:47.639 I didn't know Next year they come out. 1:44:47.680 --> 1:44:50.519 Next year they got approve on every dag on play 1:44:51.040 --> 1:44:54.240 starting in mini camp. That why they are the Super 1:44:54.280 --> 1:44:59.120 Bowl champions and go out and play on every single play, 1:44:59.600 --> 1:45:01.959 proven why they are Super Bowl champions. 1:45:02.280 --> 1:45:05.000 Well, it would be nice, John, it would be nice 1:45:05.240 --> 1:45:10.800 if everybody on this franchise showed up for all the OTAs. 1:45:11.120 --> 1:45:13.000 But like they did Super Bowl season. 1:45:13.120 --> 1:45:18.240 Yes, everybody under contract, everybody on site instead of you know, 1:45:18.320 --> 1:45:22.200 bickering about their contracts. So there was a lot of 1:45:22.520 --> 1:45:24.960 a lot of that in the last couple of years. So hey, 1:45:24.960 --> 1:45:26.960 we've got to take a break. 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I think the Bengals 1:48:13.520 --> 1:48:16.520 were able to get out of today pretty well unscathed. 1:48:16.560 --> 1:48:20.599 But there were two Cleveland Browns that really got injured. 1:48:21.120 --> 1:48:26.200 Tyson Campbell cornerback with a shoulder injury. He exited but 1:48:26.240 --> 1:48:31.240 then came back. But Denzel Ward, the outstanding corner he 1:48:31.280 --> 1:48:33.920 had a pick six in his career against Joe Burrow, 1:48:33.960 --> 1:48:36.759 remembered act from a couple of years ago. But Denzel 1:48:36.800 --> 1:48:40.360 Ward went out with a neck injury and did not return. 1:48:40.560 --> 1:48:42.479 Yeah, I think there was a few Bengal players that 1:48:42.520 --> 1:48:46.040 would kind of beat up the two corners. Oh and 1:48:46.520 --> 1:48:49.840 Dax Hill dak Hill. Yeah, I think he got hurt 1:48:49.960 --> 1:48:53.160 banged up. I don't know if he came back in 1:48:53.200 --> 1:48:54.880 the game or not, but I know they were talking 1:48:54.880 --> 1:48:58.800 about him on my ride over here, and wasn't I'm 1:48:58.840 --> 1:49:00.240 not sure if it was good or bad, but it 1:49:00.320 --> 1:49:02.599 sounded like the Bengals kind of walked out of there 1:49:02.640 --> 1:49:05.840 with everybody walking on two feet instead of somebody carrying 1:49:05.880 --> 1:49:06.240 them out. 1:49:07.560 --> 1:49:10.840 And that is the Postman Law Injury Report, brought to 1:49:10.840 --> 1:49:14.759 you by Postman Law Injured Call eight four four Postman. 1:49:14.960 --> 1:49:17.960 Others promise Postman deliver. 1:49:17.680 --> 1:49:18.400 He delivers. 1:49:18.600 --> 1:49:20.680 And let's go back out to the phones. Do we 1:49:20.760 --> 1:49:22.120 have Jack and Dayton? 1:49:23.920 --> 1:49:24.280 Okay? 1:49:24.320 --> 1:49:29.760 How about Richard and Dayton? All right, gosh, is there 1:49:29.800 --> 1:49:33.160 anybody else left? Danny, I'll tell you what after Bill? 1:49:33.200 --> 1:49:35.120 We got a Bill, Well, we got Bill, I got 1:49:35.120 --> 1:49:36.560 Bill outstanding? 1:49:36.640 --> 1:49:38.919 Hi Bill, Hey. 1:49:38.800 --> 1:49:40.479 Guys, Hey, thanks for taking my call. 1:49:41.200 --> 1:49:44.880 Hey David. Okay, so I saw. 1:49:44.840 --> 1:49:47.599 And was around three of the guys you played with. 1:49:48.760 --> 1:49:49.439 Great guys. 1:49:49.479 --> 1:49:52.160 I'm not going to say their name, but they all 1:49:52.200 --> 1:49:53.240 said the same thing. 1:49:53.360 --> 1:49:54.800 Me and all my buddies. 1:49:54.400 --> 1:49:59.400 Believe that, you know, Zach, Taylor, Tobin and Golden. 1:49:59.560 --> 1:50:00.760 They don't know what they're doing. 1:50:01.000 --> 1:50:03.680 I mean, when you have the kind of roster we have, 1:50:03.960 --> 1:50:06.680 we should be doing better than we're doing, you know. 1:50:06.880 --> 1:50:08.240 And I'm looking at the. 1:50:08.200 --> 1:50:12.639 Bengals thinking to myself, are the Bengals problems. 1:50:12.040 --> 1:50:13.240 Fixable in one year? 1:50:13.800 --> 1:50:17.200 And I don't think so. You know, there's just too. 1:50:17.000 --> 1:50:18.320 Many holes right now. 1:50:18.920 --> 1:50:20.280 The offense is amazing. 1:50:20.320 --> 1:50:23.639 But if we can't stop anybody, you know, what's what's 1:50:23.640 --> 1:50:24.680 our future look like? 1:50:25.000 --> 1:50:27.400 And if Joe Burrow do you know, do I want 1:50:27.439 --> 1:50:28.000 to stay here? 1:50:28.600 --> 1:50:28.960 Well? 1:50:29.000 --> 1:50:31.840 You know, I I you know, some of the things 1:50:31.880 --> 1:50:36.040 you're saying I think is true. But you know, there 1:50:36.680 --> 1:50:40.080 when this is a draft, everybody's picking from the same 1:50:42.120 --> 1:50:45.400 group of players. You know, one guy was in here 1:50:45.439 --> 1:50:49.479 earlier talked about you know, when Patrick Mahomes was drafted, 1:50:50.200 --> 1:50:53.519 we went after another Ross, John Ross Ross, and we 1:50:53.560 --> 1:50:56.600 probably could have Patrick Mahomes. Well I'm really kind of 1:50:56.600 --> 1:50:59.040 glad we didn't get Patrick Mahomes. You know, I just 1:50:59.280 --> 1:51:01.519 you know, he he belongs in Kansas City. Let him 1:51:01.520 --> 1:51:04.680 stay there. But the simple fact that is, if all 1:51:04.760 --> 1:51:08.280 these teams, the thirty two teams are drafting from the 1:51:08.320 --> 1:51:10.880 same pool, they go to the Combine, they go to 1:51:10.920 --> 1:51:13.800 the Senior Games, they look at all these players, and 1:51:13.880 --> 1:51:18.880 how is it that we don't get you know, some 1:51:18.920 --> 1:51:21.400 of the best players being picked in the draft. Well, 1:51:21.439 --> 1:51:24.960 it goes back to your recruiting. You'r a scouting department. 1:51:25.479 --> 1:51:28.160 It goes back to the guy who's running that scouting department. 1:51:28.360 --> 1:51:31.120 I'm not saying Duke Tobin is not the best scout 1:51:31.200 --> 1:51:34.639 or best person for that position, but when you're scouting 1:51:34.680 --> 1:51:39.160 players like everybody else, it's hard to do. It's hard 1:51:39.200 --> 1:51:42.000 to do those things. So when I look back, I go, 1:51:43.160 --> 1:51:46.280 there is a lot of talent on this team. I 1:51:46.280 --> 1:51:48.439 think it's a lot of things that needs to be changed, 1:51:49.240 --> 1:51:53.200 and offensively, defensively, Offensively, I don't know how much more 1:51:53.240 --> 1:51:56.160 you can really do. But add some linemen offensive line, 1:51:56.400 --> 1:52:03.320 they help defensively, you know, pass rush, cover corners, linebackers 1:52:03.320 --> 1:52:05.920 that you know, the linebackers aren't bad. But if I'm 1:52:05.960 --> 1:52:08.479 going to be the guy that's running the scouting department 1:52:08.880 --> 1:52:12.720 or the draft, I'm going to after defense. What do 1:52:12.800 --> 1:52:17.240 they say, Defensive teams win, Defensive teams win championships. Offensive 1:52:17.240 --> 1:52:19.839 team put points on the board. We got an offensive 1:52:19.840 --> 1:52:22.519 team that put points on the board, but our defense 1:52:22.640 --> 1:52:25.760 is suspect. So how do we fix that. We have 1:52:25.880 --> 1:52:26.360 to fix it. 1:52:26.439 --> 1:52:28.720 Well we Yeah, I think we did. 1:52:28.760 --> 1:52:31.120 Okay, I think Miles Murphy looks like he can play 1:52:31.640 --> 1:52:32.479 Jamar Stewart. 1:52:32.680 --> 1:52:35.200 We you know, the jury's still out on him. You know. 1:52:35.400 --> 1:52:38.479 There's a lot of holes on this team, you know, 1:52:38.560 --> 1:52:40.000 and we need to figure that out. 1:52:40.080 --> 1:52:42.080 And they're going to have a lot of cap money. 1:52:42.080 --> 1:52:43.720 They need to figure out a way to spend the 1:52:43.720 --> 1:52:44.759 cap money effective. 1:52:44.800 --> 1:52:47.599 With me and Bill, a lot of decisions need to 1:52:47.680 --> 1:52:51.880 be made too, especially with this class of twenty twenty three. 1:52:52.280 --> 1:52:58.479 Miles Murphy still has what two more years? Really, I 1:52:58.520 --> 1:53:01.479 believe move was that Murphy? Yeah, if they if they 1:53:01.479 --> 1:53:02.360 give him a fifth year. 1:53:02.439 --> 1:53:04.600 Yeah, so he's he's going the second year of his 1:53:04.960 --> 1:53:05.759 rookie contract. 1:53:06.000 --> 1:53:12.439 Yes, now, but DJ Turner, Jordan Battle, Charlie Jones, Chase Brown, 1:53:12.560 --> 1:53:15.040 you definitely want to keep, you know, going into his. 1:53:15.240 --> 1:53:17.120 You got to you gotta go ahead and sign Chase 1:53:17.160 --> 1:53:21.040 Brown now. Don't wait to absolutely, Yeah, you don't want 1:53:21.120 --> 1:53:25.759 Chase Brown in the offseason sitting around not playing preseason 1:53:25.760 --> 1:53:28.360 games because he's waiting on the contract extension. Go ahead 1:53:28.400 --> 1:53:30.840 and do it now, because the kid, the kid can play, 1:53:30.880 --> 1:53:31.559 The kid can. 1:53:31.439 --> 1:53:34.080 Work cam Taylor. Britt is due to be a free 1:53:34.120 --> 1:53:35.240 agent at the end of the year. 1:53:35.360 --> 1:53:37.679 He may not be here. He's hurt and he's coming 1:53:37.680 --> 1:53:40.439 off an injury. He's hurt right now, and so we'll 1:53:40.439 --> 1:53:42.599 figure that one out. But you know, I still think 1:53:42.640 --> 1:53:44.360 they need to go in the draft and go defense, 1:53:45.960 --> 1:53:48.479 you know, because it doesn't hurt to have, you know, 1:53:48.680 --> 1:53:53.160 three defensive tackles, and you know, and all three of 1:53:53.160 --> 1:53:55.240 them about the same. So you really don't lose nothing 1:53:55.240 --> 1:53:57.240 when you lose the first one, second, and third. But 1:53:57.320 --> 1:54:00.599 when you got some depth at those positions, then now 1:54:00.640 --> 1:54:02.519 you can work some things out. You can move people 1:54:02.560 --> 1:54:05.120 around and make some things happen. Because a lot of 1:54:05.160 --> 1:54:07.559 the problems that we have, we can't put pressure on 1:54:07.600 --> 1:54:12.280 the quarterback. That front four or front seven has to 1:54:12.320 --> 1:54:14.920 be better than it has been in the last couple 1:54:14.920 --> 1:54:17.599 of years, and that's what we're struggling, and our dvs 1:54:17.720 --> 1:54:21.280 look bad because the quarterback has all day to stand 1:54:21.320 --> 1:54:23.719 back then and throw the football. So you can put 1:54:23.800 --> 1:54:27.360 anybody that's like white receivers. You got a quarterback like 1:54:27.439 --> 1:54:31.719 Joe Burrow, Tom Brady, it was a quarterback that didn't 1:54:31.720 --> 1:54:34.840 have the big name white receivers but Tom Brady got 1:54:34.880 --> 1:54:35.600 the ball to him. 1:54:36.040 --> 1:54:37.160 The same way with our offense. 1:54:37.200 --> 1:54:39.680 We've got what we need on offense, the weapons, but 1:54:39.800 --> 1:54:42.680 defense it has to be the important part of our 1:54:42.760 --> 1:54:44.480 season for twenty twenty six. 1:54:45.200 --> 1:54:47.880 At Bill, Now, David, do you think now, David, do 1:54:47.960 --> 1:54:48.880 you think if the kid. 1:54:48.800 --> 1:54:51.400 From Ohio State is available that we take him? 1:54:52.720 --> 1:54:57.040 If he's there? Is that downs cale? Is that Caleb down. 1:54:56.880 --> 1:55:00.280 Downs If he's there, I take him. Yes, he's there. 1:55:00.280 --> 1:55:04.320 I'm taking a hardba. I mean, there's no doubt right now. 1:55:05.440 --> 1:55:10.240 Right now, I'm saying the Bengals on the clock right now, 1:55:10.360 --> 1:55:13.080 number one pick for the since day Bengals, the guy 1:55:13.120 --> 1:55:16.800 from Ohio State downs and then from there own we 1:55:16.920 --> 1:55:22.360 just started getting better and better with defense. All right, Bill, 1:55:22.400 --> 1:55:24.240 we got to run appreciate the call. 1:55:25.200 --> 1:55:29.920 Let's check David on Cincinnati's defensive secondary coverage today, brought 1:55:29.920 --> 1:55:34.360 to you by Coversincy dot com, local health insurance experts 1:55:34.600 --> 1:55:38.960 for over twenty years. You know, I'm looking at the 1:55:39.000 --> 1:55:43.280 tackle the defensive statistics here, and it's nice not to 1:55:43.320 --> 1:55:46.560 see all the DB's at the top. Not supposed to 1:55:46.600 --> 1:55:48.800 be like that. Yeah, that's up. So we've got the 1:55:48.920 --> 1:55:52.840 BJ Hill with eight tackles. Cam Sample had the sack 1:55:53.480 --> 1:55:59.560 and the force fumble, and GJ. Slayton was very active 1:55:59.640 --> 1:56:01.400 up along with Miles Murpheet. 1:56:01.720 --> 1:56:05.360 So yes, that's how it's supposed to be. That is 1:56:06.080 --> 1:56:09.040 what your statistics succeeds to be like at the end 1:56:09.040 --> 1:56:12.600 of the game. He shouldn't be a safety a corner 1:56:13.040 --> 1:56:15.160 leading the team in tackles. They're right, because if that 1:56:15.240 --> 1:56:18.840 is what's happening, that means I'm tackling down there ten 1:56:18.960 --> 1:56:21.040 fifty yard down the field. They're getting to the second 1:56:21.080 --> 1:56:22.960 or third level. Well, when you put the pressure on 1:56:23.000 --> 1:56:26.120 your quarterback like we did today on Sanders, the guys 1:56:26.200 --> 1:56:28.080 up front were making plays and they were in his 1:56:28.200 --> 1:56:31.440 face and that's why the game wasn't as big of 1:56:31.480 --> 1:56:34.400 a blowout or big we give up too many points. 1:56:34.640 --> 1:56:38.720 The Bengals defense, a front seven, made plays and made 1:56:38.720 --> 1:56:42.080 it easy for the corners and safeties to do their job. 1:56:42.320 --> 1:56:45.760 And that's the defense's secondary coverage report brought to you 1:56:45.800 --> 1:56:48.920 by coversince he dot com cover since he has you 1:56:49.040 --> 1:56:53.440 covered with affordable health insurance plans for over twenty years. 1:56:53.880 --> 1:56:58.120 Well outstanding individual efforts you know on offense by the 1:56:58.120 --> 1:57:01.080 Bengals when you think of the Big Three with Joe Burrow, 1:57:01.840 --> 1:57:05.360 T Higgins and Jamar Chase, Jamar Chase going well over 1:57:05.400 --> 1:57:09.240 one thousand yards this year. T Higgins knocking on that door. 1:57:09.240 --> 1:57:14.400 How about Tea with with eleven with eleven is a 1:57:14.440 --> 1:57:17.720 ten or eleven touchdown receptions? I think he's at eleven, 1:57:17.800 --> 1:57:22.000 He's at eleven. And Jamar I believe had eight touchdown 1:57:22.040 --> 1:57:26.120 receptions but well over thirteen hundred yards in receptions. 1:57:25.840 --> 1:57:28.800 And he had almost one hundred and thirty something catches. 1:57:29.240 --> 1:57:32.200 So he leaves the lead again and catches. Yeah, incredible. 1:57:32.440 --> 1:57:36.120 And then how about Chase Brown really blossoming as a 1:57:36.200 --> 1:57:39.960 complete running back and how awesome is it to have 1:57:40.400 --> 1:57:44.440 both him the one two punch of Chase Brown and samij. 1:57:44.200 --> 1:57:47.480 P Ryan tomij p Ryan. Today I said, oh man, 1:57:47.480 --> 1:57:49.200 he's about to get a hundred yards because he was, 1:57:49.800 --> 1:57:52.560 he was picking him up, putting them down. Today, he is, 1:57:52.920 --> 1:57:56.200 he's a battering Rams he said, never left Cincinnati, but 1:57:56.280 --> 1:57:58.720 he went over to Kansas City, tested the water, got 1:57:58.760 --> 1:58:00.160 a Super Bowl and now he's. 1:58:00.120 --> 1:58:04.960 Back Denver for it Denver first, and then Casey Yeah, yeah. 1:58:05.440 --> 1:58:08.080 P Ryan, I'm telling you, man, he is. He is 1:58:08.120 --> 1:58:10.120 a force to be record one. He reminds me of 1:58:10.160 --> 1:58:14.680 the old full backs that played when the being when 1:58:14.760 --> 1:58:16.480 in back in the league, when they had a tight end, 1:58:16.480 --> 1:58:19.320 a true tight end and three two wide receivers, a 1:58:19.320 --> 1:58:22.960 full back and tailback. P Ryan's my guy. Oh absolutely, 1:58:23.040 --> 1:58:25.440 I'll go to world with p RN all day. And 1:58:25.480 --> 1:58:26.000 he rashed. 1:58:26.000 --> 1:58:28.640 He rushed for four hundred yards one game, you know, 1:58:28.720 --> 1:58:32.840 the single game NCAA record, I believe in Oklahoma. 1:58:33.400 --> 1:58:37.480 And he has the most rushing yards in Oklahoma football history. 1:58:37.840 --> 1:58:40.320 And they were mixing, was there too? That's right? Yeah, 1:58:40.360 --> 1:58:43.760 p Ryan is the leading russer And they say who 1:58:43.880 --> 1:58:46.200 was p Ryan when they always talk about Joe Mixon 1:58:46.440 --> 1:58:49.720 And p Ryan's the leading has the best rushing record 1:58:49.880 --> 1:58:52.360 or rushing yards in Oklahoma history. 1:58:52.560 --> 1:58:55.640 Just incredible. Well, rock lets up. Let's take a look 1:58:55.640 --> 1:58:59.920 at scores around the National Football League. Big One tonight 1:59:01.160 --> 1:59:05.520 the Ravens at the Steelers, winner take all AFC North champ. 1:59:05.560 --> 1:59:07.880 Who do you like? Oh my gosh, I don't like 1:59:07.920 --> 1:59:10.920 either one of them, idell, but somebody's gotta win. I 1:59:10.920 --> 1:59:13.920 don't know, man, I mean I don't like Pittsburgh. I 1:59:13.920 --> 1:59:16.600 mean I think it's more not liking Pittsburgh than it 1:59:16.640 --> 1:59:19.320 is Baltimore, because Baltimore is a I call him a 1:59:19.360 --> 1:59:21.200 retread tire that used to be the Browns and then 1:59:21.240 --> 1:59:23.720 he become the Ravens. So if I had to say, 1:59:23.800 --> 1:59:29.080 knock somebody out, Pittsburgh, you gotta go home. Amen to that. 1:59:29.280 --> 1:59:32.880 And even if they do lose, Pittsburgh still a nine 1:59:32.920 --> 1:59:33.879 and eight record. 1:59:34.240 --> 1:59:37.480 Mike Tomlin, Mike Tomlin again, he works, he works. I'm 1:59:37.480 --> 1:59:40.640 telling you you can be mad at Mike Tomlin, but 1:59:40.720 --> 1:59:42.640 Mike Tomlin. Them guys play for that dude. 1:59:42.640 --> 1:59:42.880 Man. 1:59:43.480 --> 1:59:47.120 Every time Mike Toman comes to Cincinnati and I'm with 1:59:47.120 --> 1:59:51.480 my uniform compliance and I don't do the visiting team anymore. 1:59:51.560 --> 1:59:53.880 Rodney heat does it now? I do the Bengals only, 1:59:55.880 --> 2:00:00.400 Tom and goes, where's that guy? At thirty three? Wants 2:00:00.400 --> 2:00:03.200 to say hi to me? Yes, he actually said to me, man, 2:00:03.360 --> 2:00:05.440 if if you were playing, I love to have you 2:00:05.480 --> 2:00:08.000 on my team. And I go, Mike, I can't play 2:00:08.000 --> 2:00:10.360 for Pittsburgh, man. Yeah, yeah, I love you, brother, but 2:00:10.400 --> 2:00:12.880 I can't play for Pittsburgh man. Amen to that. 2:00:13.040 --> 2:00:15.680 And how about the Falcons knocking off to Saints today 2:00:15.800 --> 2:00:21.240 nineteen to seventeen, and that catapults the Carolina Panthers to 2:00:21.320 --> 2:00:23.480 win a post game to win the division with an 2:00:23.480 --> 2:00:24.360 eight and nine record. 2:00:24.480 --> 2:00:26.560 Wow, eight and nine and winning your division. 2:00:27.480 --> 2:00:28.560 We almost had it here. 2:00:29.160 --> 2:00:32.400 As a matter of fact, we will because the winning 2:00:32.440 --> 2:00:35.680 team tonight is it ten wins or nine wins? I 2:00:35.760 --> 2:00:38.440 think Pittsburgh and Baltimore both are eight. 2:00:38.320 --> 2:00:43.640 And Ravens are eight and eight. Steelers are nine and seven. Wow, 2:00:44.040 --> 2:00:46.240 So if the Ravens win, there'll be nine and eight 2:00:46.320 --> 2:00:48.160 and AFC North Champs. 2:00:47.840 --> 2:00:52.280 Nine and eight to win the division. Yeah. Incredible, and 2:00:52.320 --> 2:00:55.879 that this this was and you think about this, this 2:00:55.880 --> 2:01:00.320 this was our turn, This was our year. The way 2:01:00.360 --> 2:01:03.120 that the division was beating each other up, this was 2:01:03.160 --> 2:01:06.160 our year. This was ours for the taking. 2:01:07.000 --> 2:01:08.120 And we're running out. 2:01:07.960 --> 2:01:10.760 Of this is our years. Yeah, I mean it's getting 2:01:10.840 --> 2:01:13.880 it's getting old. You're getting tired of saying that these 2:01:13.880 --> 2:01:16.960 guys are getting older. Joe Burrow's he's been getting beat up. 2:01:17.560 --> 2:01:21.680 Joe Burrow is is you know, three spare tires on 2:01:21.760 --> 2:01:25.440 a car that has one good will? Because he's been 2:01:25.480 --> 2:01:27.640 beat up, and he's been beat up. And how much 2:01:27.720 --> 2:01:30.320 longer can he play getting beat up? You can't. 2:01:30.480 --> 2:01:31.040 He can't. 2:01:31.560 --> 2:01:35.400 Joe Burrow cannot play in twenty twenty six and get 2:01:35.480 --> 2:01:38.160 hit and get beat up. He can't. He's got to 2:01:38.200 --> 2:01:41.840 play an injury free a season where he is not 2:01:41.920 --> 2:01:45.160 getting hit and beat up, because if he gets beat up, 2:01:45.920 --> 2:01:48.480 you know, I'm looking at Andrew Luck when Andrew Luck 2:01:48.560 --> 2:01:51.640 left early in Indy. I hate to see that happen 2:01:51.680 --> 2:01:53.200 to this young man, but it could. 2:01:53.400 --> 2:01:56.320 And that's what made last year so frustrated. He played 2:01:56.320 --> 2:01:59.800 the entire year and look at all these records of 2:02:00.080 --> 2:02:02.800 Sushion last year, and we wasted that year on him, 2:02:02.840 --> 2:02:06.280 wasted with a nine to eight record and sitting home. 2:02:07.560 --> 2:02:10.440 You know you throw for four forty five hundred yards, 2:02:11.160 --> 2:02:13.880 you got forty something, almost fifty something touchdowns. Dude, that 2:02:13.960 --> 2:02:17.440 guy is supposed to be playing in postseason. There's no 2:02:17.480 --> 2:02:19.200 offens and butt about it, no doubt. 2:02:19.880 --> 2:02:22.360 Vikings over the Packers sixteen to three. The New York 2:02:22.440 --> 2:02:25.960 Football Giants thirty four to seventeen winners over the Cowboys. 2:02:26.400 --> 2:02:30.200 The Jags absolutely destroyed the Tennessee Titans forty one to seven. 2:02:30.720 --> 2:02:35.240 The Texans go to twelve and five, defeating the Colts. 2:02:35.120 --> 2:02:36.760 Thirty eight to thirty. 2:02:37.520 --> 2:02:40.160 Bills are thirty five to eight winners over the New 2:02:40.240 --> 2:02:45.200 York Jets, the Lions upset the Bears nineteen to sixteen, 2:02:46.400 --> 2:02:52.560 Broncos over the Chargers nineteen to three, and the Chiefs 2:02:53.400 --> 2:02:58.040 fall to the Vegas Las Vegas Raiders fourteen to twelve. 2:02:59.120 --> 2:03:01.880 That's always a good Kansas. 2:03:01.920 --> 2:03:06.880 And the Los Angeles Rams are thirty seven to twenty 2:03:06.960 --> 2:03:13.160 winners over the Arizona Cardinals. Cardinals three and fourteen, unbelievable. 2:03:12.520 --> 2:03:16.600 When they lost Tyler Murray. It's just Kyler. Yes, he 2:03:16.800 --> 2:03:18.640 just went down in Arizona. 2:03:19.280 --> 2:03:22.360 Patriots are thirty eight to ten winners over the Miami Dolphins, 2:03:22.800 --> 2:03:27.080 and the Commanders defeat the Eagles twenty four to seventeen. 2:03:28.640 --> 2:03:34.560 So big game tonight, winner take all. And David, we've 2:03:34.560 --> 2:03:37.400 reached the end of the show. First of all, we 2:03:37.440 --> 2:03:40.280 want to thank all the fans. Oh yeah, who came 2:03:40.320 --> 2:03:41.840 out today, who called. 2:03:41.520 --> 2:03:44.600 In, who called in, Yes, who's stuck with this football 2:03:44.640 --> 2:03:47.200 team over the years, who listened to what we do 2:03:47.280 --> 2:03:49.960 here and we can't ask anything else. 2:03:50.040 --> 2:03:53.000 We appreciate all the loyal listeners. Yes, and on behalf 2:03:53.040 --> 2:03:56.600 of my partner Faux Rock, David Vulture, it's been an honor, 2:03:56.640 --> 2:04:00.280 pleasure and privilege you work with you, Jim Breach and 2:04:00.480 --> 2:04:04.400 Bruce Kazerski and an honorary partner. 2:04:04.240 --> 2:04:04.960 And Tim McGee. 2:04:05.160 --> 2:04:09.480 Yes, yeah, yeah, Oh, I've just had a fantastic time. 2:04:09.560 --> 2:04:10.400 Thank you so much. 2:04:10.680 --> 2:04:13.720 And to Mike Mills, our engineer, and our great producers 2:04:13.760 --> 2:04:18.360 back in the Kenwood studios from Lean Tomlinson and Sean 2:04:18.480 --> 2:04:22.120 McMahon and Shoeless Joe Waddell and Danny Gleeson. 2:04:22.920 --> 2:04:26.160 Man, all I can say about this this team right here, 2:04:26.200 --> 2:04:28.560 man is we went undefeated. 2:04:28.240 --> 2:04:30.920 All right, all right, all right, appreciate that we went 2:04:31.000 --> 2:04:34.320 undefeated and until next time. We hope that will be 2:04:34.520 --> 2:04:37.040 next year. Yes, this is the Chickster Chick Ludwig on 2:04:37.080 --> 2:04:41.040 behalf of my partner David Foulcher. Thanks for listening to 2:04:41.120 --> 2:04:45.240 the Tri State Chevy Dealers. Postgame Sports Talk live from 2:04:45.280 --> 2:04:48.840 Wings and Rings Liberty Township were presented by RNL Carriers 2:04:49.120 --> 2:04:53.520 on seven hundred WLW and Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen thirty