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Speaker 2: WLW and Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen thirty. This is Chick Ludwig

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Speaker 2: and I'm alongside Bengals legendary strong safety David Fulcher nickname

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Speaker 2: faux rock, and we are breaking down the Bengals twenty

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Speaker 2: to eighteen loss to the Cleveland Browns in the regular

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Speaker 2: season finale for both teams, like a wrecking ball. Mike

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Speaker 2: join us by calling five, one, three, seven, four, nine,

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Speaker 2: seven thousand or one eight hundred the big one. Like

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Speaker 2: a wrecking ball, Let's go big, like a wrecking ball,

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Speaker 2: Let's go and faux rock. The Bengals lose twenty to eighteen.

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Speaker 2: That's two points. Yes, they give up two defensive touchdowns, yes.

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Speaker 2: Evan McPherson misses two extra point ticks.

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Speaker 3: Yes.

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Speaker 2: And what hurts is the most that two rookies quarterbacks

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Speaker 2: should Durre Sanders and place kicker Andre Smitt. And of

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Speaker 2: course the veteran Miles Garrett helps beat the Bengals today. Man,

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Speaker 2: I'm upset, you.

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Speaker 4: Know, It's funny how you say this. I'm like, I

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Speaker 4: hear all these. You know, we miss two field goals,

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Speaker 4: we give up two touchdowns on offense, and then we

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Speaker 4: lose by two. We should have played the numbers to

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Speaker 4: two because we might win. The team didn't, but it

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Speaker 4: was ugly.

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Speaker 2: It was and Rock instead of a sweep, the Bengals

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Speaker 2: have to settle for a split. Yeah, but there is

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Speaker 2: a silver lining that all the folks out there want

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Speaker 2: to know about. They've been rooting for it. The updated

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Speaker 2: draft order has the Bengals selecting ninth with a six

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Speaker 2: and eleven record instead of eleventh. Yes or lower.

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Speaker 4: Yes, So that's the silver liner.

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Speaker 2: But the Bengals defense Rock allowed only two field goals

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Speaker 2: today the entire game. The defense was strong for fifty

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Speaker 2: eight minutes and thirty one seconds, but it yielded a

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Speaker 2: ten play forty yard drive the final one twenty nine

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Speaker 2: after the Bengals scored and went ahead, and kicker Andre

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Speaker 2: smit the goat Week one when he missed an extra

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Speaker 2: point and a field goal, crushed the forty nine yard

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Speaker 4: Just think about this. We talk about this football team

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Speaker 4: and how the defense don't make the plays, the offense

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Speaker 4: scores forty points and we wind up losing to forty. Today,

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Speaker 4: the defense played their butts off and then we gave

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Speaker 4: up fourteen twelve points in a sense, or kicked the

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Speaker 4: So once again, when they are working on all cylinders,

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Speaker 4: that means offense, defensive, special teams are working together in sink,

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Speaker 4: you're gonna win football games. And today offense defense, yes, offense,

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Speaker 4: no special teams know, and guess what happens, we lose

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Speaker 4: the game.

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Speaker 2: Jim Schwartz, the defensive coordinator at the Cleveland Browns, he's due.

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Speaker 4: I think you'll agree with me.

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Speaker 2: Rock. He belongs as a head football coach in the

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Speaker 2: National Football League. Once upon a time, he was with

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Speaker 4: Yes, but he is.

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Speaker 2: One of the best defensive coordinators in all of the

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Speaker 2: foot all of football. And he's got Zach Taylor's number,

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Speaker 2: Yes he does. He's got the Bengals number. Even though

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Speaker 2: the Bengals one opening week man it was ugly low

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Speaker 2: the Browns would have won Week one.

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Speaker 4: The Bengals could have got swept by the Browns. They

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Speaker 4: probably they should have. The first game they should have lost, yes,

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Speaker 4: but they didn't because of the missfield goals. Today's game,

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Speaker 4: if the offense would do what they've been doing for

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Speaker 2: We're on the the Bengals are on the door staff

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Speaker 4: It's fourteen to six. Another of fumbles. He's done that

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Speaker 4: twice this year. Man sold a game. This game rock.

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Speaker 2: The Bengals have their big three on the field, Joe Burrow,

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Speaker 2: They shouldn't lose to the Browns.

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Speaker 4: No, they should with those studs on the field. And

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Speaker 4: the Browns offense is really brutal. They're bad. They're not

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Speaker 4: to get what they did at the end of the game.

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Speaker 4: We should have blown the Cleveland Browns right out of

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Speaker 4: the end should have ever happened. I want to read

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Speaker 4: you rock.

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Speaker 2: The stats at halftime, ugly, Bengals are trailing fourteen to twelve.

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Speaker 2: The Bengals lead in first downs fourteen to two.

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Speaker 2: They lead in the number of plays thirty eight to eighteen.

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Speaker 2: Yards to thirty one forty wow yards per play. Bengals

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Speaker 4: It just goes Bengals are traveling. It just goes to

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Speaker 4: show chick, stats don't mean nothing. Stats don't mean nothing.

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Speaker 4: Is the number of the points that are on that board.

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Speaker 4: And that's why this is an embarrassing loss, because you

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Speaker 4: dominated every phase of the game outside of turnovers. You

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Speaker 4: should have won this football game hands down.

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Speaker 2: And even though this rivalry, this Battle of Ohio, that

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Speaker 2: was a split this year, even though both teams.

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Speaker 4: Have losing records. Yes, it was a good one.

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Speaker 2: Brown's five and twelve Bengals six and eleven. It still matters.

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Speaker 2: It does to the Browns family. It does man and

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Speaker 2: to Paul Brown he's in his grave spin it.

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Speaker 4: Let me tell you when we played Cleveland many many

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Speaker 4: years ago, when Paul Brown was there, he used to

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Speaker 4: tell us, you need to sleep in the basement, you

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Speaker 4: need to stay away from your family because it's Brown's

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Speaker 4: week or it's Steeler week. Yes, and let me tell

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Speaker 4: you he didn't care about nothing.

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Speaker 2: He didn't.

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Speaker 4: He wouldn't even let reporters come into the facility at

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Speaker 4: spending Spennyfield. There you go, Spennyfield. He wouldn't let reporters

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Speaker 4: at three o'clock in the afternoon. Wow, because it wasn't

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Speaker 4: about nothing but beating the Cleveland Browns.

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Speaker 2: And you know what.

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Speaker 4: Today, You know, I don't know if I can't say

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Speaker 4: Cleveland beat the team Cincinnati Bengals today, I think that

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Speaker 4: since they Bengals beat themselves today.

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Speaker 2: Before we go out to the phones and take our

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Speaker 2: first break, I want to lay this on you faux rock.

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Speaker 2: David Foulcher, all Pro strong safety, the biggest strong safety

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Speaker 2: in the league at the time, six foot.

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Speaker 4: Three, thirty eight and forty pounds. There you go.

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Speaker 2: They don't make them like that no more. Jick on

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Speaker 2: pregame Sports Talk Today Live from the Holy Grail with

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Speaker 2: Ken Brew, Tony Pike, and Moeger, the paramount sports handicapper,

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Speaker 2: came on yes and predicted let us to believe, yes,

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Speaker 2: that today's game is Joe Burrow's last game is a

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Speaker 2: Cincinnati Bengal.

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Speaker 4: Wow.

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Speaker 2: We will address this after the break, Yes, and we

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Speaker 2: fired up today, are fired up. We are at Wings

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Speaker 2: He's David Folcher. This is Chick Ludwig. You're listening to

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Speaker 2: This is Chick Ludwig. And before we go out to

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Speaker 2: the phones rock, what do you think of that prediction

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Speaker 2: by the handicapper from Paramount sports Man, which today's last

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Speaker 2: game Joe Burrows in a Bengals uniform.

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Speaker 4: I just hope he's wrong. Me too, you know, talking

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Speaker 4: to Jimmy Burrow, Joe is just upset like anybody else's

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Speaker 4: upset because they're not winning. He just wants to win.

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Speaker 4: And you know, the last two to three weeks he's

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Speaker 4: something happens dramatically during this offseason where things will get

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Speaker 4: was the Bengals when they come to draft. And I'll

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Speaker 4: talk about that as we go on. But yes, this

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Speaker 4: is heartbreaking to hear that, and hopefully it's not true.

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Speaker 2: The whole thrust today, when the game ends, it's not

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Speaker 2: dissecting this game. It's looking forward. Yes, it's looking this

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Speaker 2: is the last game of the season.

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Speaker 4: Your team is six and eleven.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, what can you do to improve going into next

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Speaker 2: year to make sure this doesn't happen for a fourth

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Speaker 2: straight year, three straight years without the playoffs. Joe Burrow's upset.

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Speaker 2: The whole organization should be and they've got to get

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Speaker 2: this thing fixed. And we heard Joe after the game say, hey,

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Speaker 2: we're not where we want to be. We're not where

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Speaker 2: we expect to be. And things got to get fixed

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Speaker 2: and things got to improve.

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Speaker 4: And those are politically correct answers and things that he says,

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Speaker 4: because nobody wants to be six and ten, six and eleven,

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Speaker 4: five and twelve sitting at home watching everybody else play.

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Speaker 4: When you've got the offensive firepower that the Cincinnati Bengals have,

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Speaker 4: they should be in the playoffs every year, whether they

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Speaker 4: get to the super Bowl or not. With that offense,

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Speaker 4: they should be playing for championships every year. And here

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Speaker 4: we are again, three years out and no playoffs.

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Speaker 2: Fourteen of the thirty two teams are in the playoffs

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Speaker 2: in the Bengals aren't one of them.

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Speaker 4: No's just too much talent on offense, too many good

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Speaker 4: things that the city deserves too many good things that

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Speaker 4: this football team deserves and for so long that we

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Speaker 4: are dying. We are thirsty for Super Bowl.

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Speaker 2: Let's go out to the phones, Pat and Redding, are

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Speaker 2: you there? Yes, I am Pat.

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Speaker 5: But we but yeah, you know we can get away

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Speaker 6: But we know it's going to be a close game.

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Speaker 5: So I don't know.

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Speaker 3: Pick six.

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Speaker 5: Does anybody know what the number of Joe's interceptions are

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Speaker 2: And I think this seventh the seventh career picked six.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, seventh, and five of them were this year or what?

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Speaker 5: And then the fumble that was run back. How many

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Speaker 7: That amazing?

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Speaker 2: Hey, nice knowing you, Noah, thank you for your contribution

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Speaker 4: See you later, pink slip.

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Speaker 2: Wish you well, let the door hit you in the

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Speaker 4: Noah, you fumbled.

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Speaker 2: You fumbled twice this year at critical times. And another

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Speaker 5: Cool Then what did almost every Bengal fan say when

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Speaker 3: No touchdown?

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Speaker 4: Too much time?

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Speaker 5: Why didn't we run the ball and take some time.

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Speaker 5: Time outs left, but made some use there, don't I

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Speaker 4: You know you know what, Pat, Pat I I kind

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Speaker 4: They came back and they beat us.

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Speaker 5: But and I knew I knew that was going to

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Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, Yeah, Well, gods, they don't play well. And

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Speaker 4: So if it's a journeyman.

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Speaker 2: Quarterback, if it's a rookie, the Bengals are launching their career. Man,

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Speaker 2: I'm getting.

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Speaker 4: Sick of that.

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Speaker 5: Yes, And then ability inability to make two point conversions

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Speaker 4: It's very hard to it's two point conversions are very

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Speaker 4: it's a very low percentages. All right, Pat, thank you, Pat?

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Speaker 10: Pat?

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Speaker 4: All right? Do we have Bryce and Anderson?

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Speaker 2: Oh?

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Speaker 5: Yes, you do?

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Speaker 4: Hi? Bryce?

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Speaker 5: I mean the Bengals just dominated almost every stat line

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Speaker 12: Always to turnover battle.

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Speaker 2: You're right, Is there anything more meaningless than time of possession?

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Speaker 4: Yeah? You do want it?

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Speaker 2: You want to dominate that at the Bengals did.

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Speaker 4: At the end of the game. Tick, when the lights go,

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: And if joebers three losses this season, he has thrown

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Speaker 2: And he finished five five and three in his eight games.

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Speaker 2: Five and three is his record in eight games. And yeah,

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Speaker 2: you're right, Bryce, always good hearing from you.

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Speaker 6: Man, Thank you.

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Speaker 5: You have a great record of the night.

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Speaker 2: Thank you do the same, yes, sir. And do we

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Speaker 4: And Hey.

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Speaker 2: The numbers the dial five one three, seven four nine,

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Speaker 4: All we need is you at.

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Speaker 2: Five P one three seven four nine, seven thousand and one,

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Speaker 2: you there?

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Speaker 3: Yes, sir?

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Speaker 10: How are you doing?

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Speaker 4: We're good man?

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Speaker 2: How are you?

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Speaker 4: I'm doing all right outside of the loss today, But

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Speaker 3: Well?

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Speaker 13: Me and my wife was actually at the game that

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Speaker 4: What was it like?

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Speaker 2: What was it like mingling with all those folks from

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Speaker 13: I want too bad from where he was sitting today.

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Speaker 13: we have seen it multiple times this season. Season's past

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Speaker 13: is again that time of possession, as in, they had

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Speaker 6: To go down and win a game winning drive, in

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Speaker 13: Always lead time on the clock for the team.

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Speaker 2: To go down and lose at the very end.

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Speaker 13: With no time to come back and try it.

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Speaker 4: Except when t went down.

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Speaker 2: We said against Pittsburgh, team went down on the ground,

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Speaker 13: This season of demonstrating that, you know, yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 4: You know, And I think I said it earlier. The

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Speaker 2: And I don't know, I don't know.

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Speaker 4: go down there and do what they're supposed to do.

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Speaker 4: Your job on offenses, put the ball.

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Speaker 2: In the end zone.

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Speaker 2: breaking down the Bengals twenty to eighteen loss to the

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Speaker 2: the Cincinnati Bengals.

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Speaker 4: It finished off.

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Speaker 2: A after a turnover after the Bengals got the sack

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Speaker 4: T Higgins, you know something has happened to him. I

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Speaker 4: talks sometime on a grown man. Yes, full grown man,

444
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Speaker 4: full grown man.

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Speaker 2: That dude is.

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Speaker 4: He's six five, could be six to six, and he

447
00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:26,680
Speaker 4: can jump on top of the basketball rim. So when

448
00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:29,600
Speaker 4: Joe Burrow throws that ball to T Higgins, there's a

449
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Speaker 4: good possibility that he's gonna go up and get that ball.

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Speaker 4: His reach is so incredible.

451
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Speaker 2: He high points the ball and even in a tight

452
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Speaker 2: window down that right sideline, he can box a guy out.

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Speaker 4: He goes up and snatches the ball out. Well, the touchdown,

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Speaker 4: the touchdown holding by the dB one hand and he

455
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Speaker 4: caught it with one like the guy he's got his

456
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Speaker 4: right arm and he can't get the arm out there

457
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Speaker 4: and he wind up catching it with one hand. So

458
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Speaker 4: when he plays man, he's at his best.

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Speaker 2: So we could have picked that as the delivery of

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Speaker 2: the game too, a thirteen yard touchdown pass to T

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Speaker 2: Higgins at the twenty nine second mark, right before the

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Speaker 2: end of the first half. Yes, so yeah, the dB

463
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Speaker 2: is pulling his right arm, he yanks it in with

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Speaker 2: his left.

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Speaker 4: Paul. That was awesome, And these today's receivers are catching balls.

466
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Speaker 4: Everybody is grabbing the ball out the air with one hand,

467
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Speaker 4: and I'm like, well, what about the other hand, use

468
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Speaker 4: the other hand if you can. But in this case

469
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Speaker 4: t couldn't. But he caught the touchdown and we were

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Speaker 4: kind of excited about that.

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Speaker 2: Fantastic. Let's go out to the phones. Do we have

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Speaker 2: Jackson in Cincinnati?

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Speaker 3: Hey?

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Speaker 6: Anny Amy?

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Speaker 2: Yes, sir, Hey, something we're not talking about.

476
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Speaker 14: And I'm not sure why?

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Speaker 6: What is going on with mc spears? Why is he

478
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Speaker 6: missing this many kicks? And he's and we're still holding

479
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Speaker 6: behind and we're still supporting. What's going on?

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Speaker 10: You got?

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Speaker 2: Well, he's head up until today, he's had a phenomenal season.

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Speaker 2: I mean he has.

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Speaker 4: I mean he he missed two kicks, so he's missed

484
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Speaker 4: three extra points this year.

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Speaker 6: He misses every kick that matters.

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Speaker 9: You know, he might make a kick to Yader in

487
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Speaker 9: a preseason game, but he's missing every kick that matters.

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Speaker 2: Let's go back now.

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Speaker 4: If we don't throw them two interceptions or the interception

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Speaker 4: and the pick six the Fumbel recovery, nobody would be

491
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Speaker 4: talking about McPherson's missus. So yes, when it counts. This year,

492
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Speaker 4: on a few games he hasn't made those kicks. But

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Speaker 4: I will go to battle with McPherson weekend and week

494
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Speaker 4: out if we score points, if we if we do

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Speaker 4: what we're supposed to do, if we don't give up

496
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Speaker 4: the fourteen points off of turnovers that kick when none

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Speaker 4: of that stuff would matter.

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Speaker 2: I understand your point, Oh, Jackson, every direction.

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Speaker 12: I'm sorry, we can point fingers in every direction this year.

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Speaker 2: Oh, absolutely to play their side of the ball, Jackson,

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Speaker 2: I think you'll agree with me that this was the

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Speaker 2: perfect ending to a miserable at six and eleven. Yeah, yeah, hey,

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Speaker 2: appreciate the cary.

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Speaker 4: And it doesn't make sense though. Here's the thing, you know,

505
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Speaker 4: we we we talk about turnovers. If you win the

506
00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:15,200
Speaker 4: turnover battle, you're most likely going to win the game.

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00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:18,800
Speaker 4: If you give up three turnovers and you get one,

508
00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:23,159
Speaker 4: your your negative two, and guess what, you probably are

509
00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:24,880
Speaker 4: not going to win the game. And today we did

510
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Speaker 4: not win the Game's exactly right?

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Speaker 2: How about Jim and Mason?

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Speaker 4: Are you there? Jim? Yes, I'm here. What's on your mind?

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Speaker 10: Hey, get away from.

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Speaker 15: A day's game and this year's uh, you know, the

515
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Speaker 15: game's over, the years over. But let me throw this

516
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Speaker 15: at you guys, as far as they're saying the fancy

517
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Speaker 15: could be fired, I'm thinking that maybe mouth hurt might

518
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Speaker 15: be set up.

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Speaker 16: Well, do you think the Bangles are throwing two or

520
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Speaker 16: three first round draft takes with the Browns to get

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Speaker 16: him and go off from there? Because we're getting the

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Speaker 16: point where Joe's gonna get set up, and I think

523
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Speaker 16: getting Miles Garrett or something like that, well the grass

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Speaker 16: this could be a big something to think about.

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Speaker 6: Am I wrong or am I right?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: I just can't see the Cleveland Browns giving up Miles

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Speaker 4: Garrett too.

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Speaker 2: I take a sufficient opponent to a divisional opponent. Remember

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Speaker 2: Mike Tomlin already.

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Speaker 4: Had a critical conversation about when Flacco left Cleveland going

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Speaker 4: to Cincinnati, how do you do that?

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Speaker 2: That makes sense?

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Speaker 4: You don't trade inside your own division.

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Speaker 2: So Miles Garrett, you.

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Speaker 4: Know, remember Miles Garrett before the season started, didn't have

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Speaker 4: a contract, and they were talking about quarterbacks and they

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00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:50,120
Speaker 4: didn't know what quarterback they were going to get, and

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Speaker 4: Miles Garrett said, I don't have time to sit here

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Speaker 4: and wait on the front a quarterback to come in

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Speaker 4: here and make us look good. Until they gave him

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Speaker 4: that that couple hundred million dollar contract and he said,

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Speaker 4: I'll take that money.

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Speaker 2: Over quarterbacks any day.

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Speaker 4: That's right.

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Speaker 2: So you have to be careful what you ask for.

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Speaker 4: Because the timple fact is, I believe, and I'm I

548
00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:15,160
Speaker 4: said this before, this year's draft should be nothing but

549
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Speaker 4: defensive players. I would not go after an offensive player

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Speaker 4: until late rounds if that, and then go out free

551
00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:25,880
Speaker 4: agency to find an offensive guy. But this has to

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Speaker 4: be a defensive draft. Picks for the Bengals this year,

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Speaker 4: all defense.

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Speaker 17: David, I agree, and I get, you know, trade within

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Speaker 17: the big and I get that, but that usually was

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Speaker 17: in the quarterback.

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Speaker 7: But I just, uh, I'm kind of larry on draft.

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Speaker 6: There is a really good quarterback.

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Speaker 7: I don't think coming into craft as far as it's

560
00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:55,720
Speaker 7: gonna make you break the team. But you know, I'm

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Speaker 7: just saying, I'm defense side of the ball. We need

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Speaker 7: to get h.

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Speaker 17: I think somebody like Kik could really changed the whole

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Speaker 17: game as far.

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Speaker 7: As linebackers, Depik of back, stuff like that, Jim.

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Speaker 2: Every phase of this defense needs to be addressed, the front,

567
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Speaker 2: the middle, and the back. And thank you very much

568
00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:15,880
Speaker 2: for your call, and that that got.

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Speaker 4: To move on.

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Speaker 2: Yes, we do thousands are waiting on hold Jeff and Tayton. Jeff,

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Speaker 2: what's happening?

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Speaker 11: Oh ye hey, it's a honor to talk to you,

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Speaker 11: the great Jeff.

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Speaker 2: It's an honor to talk to you in the Gem City.

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Speaker 6: Okay, I've got a few things.

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Speaker 14: I'll try to rattle them off real quick.

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Speaker 11: These scoop sixes by fans. Didn't he have three this year?

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Speaker 4: Oh you're talking about, oh fans fumbles?

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Speaker 2: Oh, fumbles I think for a touchdown?

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Speaker 4: Well, I think you I know he had to Minnesota

581
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Speaker 4: earlier in the year and then this game today. As

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Speaker 4: far as fumbles for pick six.

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Speaker 6: He's got three.

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Speaker 11: And I don't you know you talk about Miles Garrett

585
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Speaker 11: and has torn three sacks being an all five records

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Speaker 11: that could be broke. I don't think fans record of

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Speaker 11: these three stoops.

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Speaker 2: Oh, you're coupled with his coupled with his false starts too.

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00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:16,280
Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 18: Oh my god, he's just not a good not a

591
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Speaker 18: good signing mirror.

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Speaker 2: Here's here's here's the story. Here's the story.

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Speaker 4: Here's the story that I brought up and the guy

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00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:28,640
Speaker 4: said about, you know, when it's come to quarterbacks, you

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Speaker 4: can do that in your division listen. In nineteen ninety two,

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Speaker 4: the Bengals released me and Dick Lebou was in Pittsburgh. Yeah, Shula,

597
00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:39,760
Speaker 4: David Shula said, do you want me to call Dick

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Speaker 4: Lebow and I go, Why the hell would I go

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Speaker 4: to Pittsburgh. You don't go to Pittsburgh. You play for Cincinnati.

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Speaker 4: You don't go to play in Pittsburgh. I don't care

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Speaker 4: what position you play. You do not go on your division.

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00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:54,920
Speaker 4: You go outside your division and then you can play

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Speaker 4: against those teams. But for us to go and grab

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Speaker 4: just like we did Flako, I was shot that they

605
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Speaker 4: grabbed Flaco. But they got Flaco because we needed a

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Speaker 4: quarterback and experienced quarterback.

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Speaker 2: But even that, I wouldn't.

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Speaker 4: Never would have got Flaco because he come from the

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Speaker 4: Cleveland Browns. There is so much incest.

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Speaker 2: You know this, Oh, there is so much incest in

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Speaker 2: the AFC. I know. I know.

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Speaker 4: You've got to get released.

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Speaker 2: First man, you gotta get released.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Travion and.

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Speaker 2: Yeah Cleveland brown Yeah, oh yeah, so you don't do that, sick.

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Speaker 4: That's right.

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Speaker 2: Hey, Jeff, you got one more thing for us quick

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Speaker 2: before we break?

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Speaker 14: Yes, sir, I want to say the last child is

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Speaker 14: talking about and there's no quarterback to that. Nando Mendoza

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Speaker 14: is six four or five five, got a rocket arm,

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Speaker 14: and I don't know who's gonna draft him, but I

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Speaker 14: think they got a franchise quarterback and that's probably the

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Speaker 14: only one to draft.

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Speaker 2: Thanks you, probably probably, thank you, probably the Las Vegas

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Speaker 2: right number one pick. Number one pick is probably gonna

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Speaker 2: be him. But Dante Moore is awfully talented. Yeah, or

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Speaker 2: I will say this that Fernando Mendoza, that interview right

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Speaker 2: after the Rose Bowl. Yes, it was the most impressive

630
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Speaker 2: thing I've seen all year. Oh yeah, that dude is

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Speaker 2: class from top to bottom. And even though I bleed

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Speaker 2: Scarlett and Gray, my alma mater, the Ohio State University,

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Speaker 2: I'm taking a bath in cream and Crimson for the IU.

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Speaker 4: Who's yours unbelievable season? Amazing? Hey, we've got to take

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Speaker 4: a break.

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Speaker 2: Appreciate everybody coming out. We've got a great crowd here today.

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Speaker 2: Man post mortem twenty to eighteen. The Bengals lose to

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Speaker 2: the Cleveland Browns. If you're just now turn it, you know,

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Speaker 2: joining us and you don't know what happened in the game.

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Speaker 2: Two defensive touchdowns by the Cleveland Browns and two missed

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Speaker 2: extra points by Evan nick Pherson. Brutal, very brutal man

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Speaker 2: And okay, with five minutes and what eleven seconds to

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Speaker 2: go in this game?

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Speaker 4: Trying to find you stats man here you yes.

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Speaker 2: Five eleven?

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Speaker 4: Okay?

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Speaker 2: The Browns celebrate Miles Garrett's a third sack of the season.

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Speaker 2: It is a single season record.

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Speaker 4: I would have.

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Speaker 2: Thought, yeah, looking at the television, I know what you're

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Speaker 2: about to say that the Browns hit just won the

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Speaker 2: Super Bowl? Yes, how can they get penalized and they

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Speaker 2: weren't for their celebration after their two defensive touchdowns to

667
00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:30,120
Speaker 2: fifteen yard celebration penalties and not get penalized for that

668
00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:36,400
Speaker 2: display of when the entire team comes out, lifts Miles

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Speaker 2: carrot up in the air to the heavens, carries in

670
00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:46,120
Speaker 2: to the sidelines in celebration and the referees do nothing.

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Speaker 4: All I saw is the referees go like this like

672
00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:53,880
Speaker 4: time out for them to celebrate, and no penalty flag

673
00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:55,920
Speaker 4: disrupt The game is live.

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00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:58,440
Speaker 2: The game is live. That sag did not stop the

675
00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:02,520
Speaker 2: clock disrupting. Did Bengals entire flow of their offense?

676
00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:05,640
Speaker 4: That should have been a fifteen yard penalty unsportsmun like conduct.

677
00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:08,200
Speaker 4: Bengals got the ball fifteen yards further and who knows

678
00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:10,759
Speaker 4: whatd have happened then, But for them to come out

679
00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:12,040
Speaker 4: there and celebrate and.

680
00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:14,359
Speaker 2: Stop the game because of that.

681
00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:16,759
Speaker 4: It ain't like baseball when somebody hits a home run

682
00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:19,040
Speaker 4: and he runs around, everybody want to give him high

683
00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:21,319
Speaker 4: five because you broke the record in baseball, Because the

684
00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:22,760
Speaker 4: pischers got to Pisch the next picks.

685
00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:25,160
Speaker 2: But this game is live and it's to be going.

686
00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:26,120
Speaker 2: The clock is running.

687
00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:29,239
Speaker 4: They stopped the clock for him to celebrate, and then

688
00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:31,759
Speaker 4: they backed up and said, okay, let's wind it back up.

689
00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:34,200
Speaker 4: They're off the field. That's a fifteen yard penalty.

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00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:39,600
Speaker 2: Chick did the Bengals hoist Corey Dillon. Today he rushed

691
00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:43,560
Speaker 2: for two hundred and seventy eight yards against the Denver

692
00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:49,360
Speaker 2: Broncos for a single game rushing record and National Football

693
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Speaker 2: League history on the sideline.

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Speaker 4: Corey came to the island after he did that and

695
00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:55,600
Speaker 4: they were all high fiving him, but the game was

696
00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:58,520
Speaker 4: still going on. Yes, and what they did today, the

697
00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:01,040
Speaker 4: Bengals are probably gonna get a excuse me letter from

698
00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:04,120
Speaker 4: the league. Yes, sorry, we should have called a flag

699
00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:05,680
Speaker 4: on it, but it's kind of late to call the flag.

700
00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:11,279
Speaker 2: Now, game's over. You're absolutely right. Oh where do we go?

701
00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:13,560
Speaker 4: It's on the wrecking ball, man, We're on the recond

702
00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:14,879
Speaker 4: ball and we can't even get it out.

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00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:20,759
Speaker 2: That's exactly right. Hey, we've got is it? Anthony did

704
00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:21,520
Speaker 2: Anthony Trupp?

705
00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:23,080
Speaker 4: No, he's gone.

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00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:25,480
Speaker 2: Okay, how about Jeff in Indianapolis?

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00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:31,239
Speaker 9: Chick, sir to Rock what's going on to talk to you?

708
00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:34,000
Speaker 4: All right, Jeff, We're good, man, We're good, Jeff. What's happening,

709
00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:37,000
Speaker 4: chick You may remember week one?

710
00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:39,520
Speaker 9: I called on my way back from Cleveland like a

711
00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:42,399
Speaker 9: wrecking ball, like you guys say yes, and it's time

712
00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:45,720
Speaker 9: to take the wrecking ball to the coaching staff. I'm sorry,

713
00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:52,040
Speaker 9: Dak Taylor. He's had some great moments, but I to

714
00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:54,239
Speaker 9: go to the next level. This team will be back,

715
00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:57,480
Speaker 9: but Dak Taylor's not gonna take him there. I thank

716
00:37:57,560 --> 00:38:00,479
Speaker 9: him for what he's done. He's not gonna take them there.

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00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:01,480
Speaker 8: I've seen enough.

718
00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:02,480
Speaker 10: You know.

719
00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:04,560
Speaker 9: We can talk drafts, we can talk all this stuff.

720
00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:07,200
Speaker 9: But too many mistakes, too many things. I've seen it

721
00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:08,000
Speaker 9: too many times.

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Speaker 2: I'm in Indiana.

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Speaker 9: Who's regret by the way, Dana Mendoza, let's go. I'm

724
00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:14,640
Speaker 9: trying to figure out a way to get to Miami.

725
00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:16,480
Speaker 9: I'm ready to rock and roll, Chickster.

726
00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:20,480
Speaker 2: I like how coach Sigg stands on the gas baby

727
00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:23,000
Speaker 2: and he don't let up. No he doesn't. Oh no

728
00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:23,760
Speaker 2: he doesn't.

729
00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:25,400
Speaker 4: Man, that is impressive.

730
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Speaker 9: Can I say one thing watching Signetty coach and then

731
00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:33,520
Speaker 9: happen to watch Taylor coaches like watching Stranger Things if

732
00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:36,480
Speaker 9: you're in the normal world and the upside down. And

733
00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:38,600
Speaker 9: then so rock I got one thing and I'll take

734
00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:41,799
Speaker 9: your comments off air. I remember when you guys used

735
00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:43,560
Speaker 9: to travel around and play basketball.

736
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Speaker 10: Yes, Nay's mil Kentucky.

737
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Speaker 6: I probably met you when I was seven.

738
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Speaker 9: Eight years old.

739
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Speaker 3: I remember that you would.

740
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Speaker 9: I think you were a part of that. So I

741
00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:53,160
Speaker 9: thank you for coming out. I remember here with my

742
00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:57,719
Speaker 9: seven year old son. We've leed orange and black in Indianapolis, right,

743
00:38:58,040 --> 00:39:01,319
Speaker 9: I had the opportunity to go bea could never I'm

744
00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:02,239
Speaker 9: orange block to the.

745
00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:03,760
Speaker 2: Day I died. There you go.

746
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Speaker 3: Some changes.

747
00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:08,440
Speaker 4: I only wish.

748
00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:13,000
Speaker 2: I only wish Indianapolis because it's two hours away.

749
00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:15,279
Speaker 4: Is in the AFC North yep?

750
00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:20,840
Speaker 2: Kick Baltimore into the east, yes, and then who Miami

751
00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:21,480
Speaker 2: to the south?

752
00:39:21,719 --> 00:39:25,680
Speaker 4: Yep, Miami to the south. And at one time they

753
00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:28,920
Speaker 4: talked about that realignaw but they didn't do it. But

754
00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:31,160
Speaker 4: I I can't see why the Bengals don't play Indy

755
00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:34,799
Speaker 4: should be in the conference. I mean Indie, Pittsburgh, Cincinnati

756
00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:37,080
Speaker 4: right in that little circle. What do you call that

757
00:39:37,080 --> 00:39:39,319
Speaker 4: outside the two seventy five loop. I guess just.

758
00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:42,720
Speaker 2: Because just because Baltimore was formerly the Cleveland Browns.

759
00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:46,319
Speaker 4: Doesn't mean and remember the Baltimore Coats back in the day,

760
00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:49,040
Speaker 4: they didn't play. They were in the same division the

761
00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:51,320
Speaker 4: Cincinnati Bengals were back in the day to Baltimore Coats.

762
00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:54,080
Speaker 4: So why the Ravens got to be in that division?

763
00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:55,520
Speaker 4: You're absolutely right?

764
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Speaker 2: Hey, we've got is it Gary and Green Hills?

765
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Speaker 18: Yeah?

766
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Speaker 4: All right, Garry.

767
00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:08,960
Speaker 19: Hey, I got a question. So Joe Burrow goes to

768
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Speaker 19: the Bengals and say, you know, I want to trade,

769
00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:14,680
Speaker 19: so you get whatever you can for me, and if

770
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Speaker 19: you don't, I'm retiring. So if he puts him in

771
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Speaker 19: a corner like that, he does retire. Let's say, does

772
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Speaker 19: that make him through with the Bengal Is the Bengals

773
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Speaker 19: no longer to proper have the property of Joe Burrow?

774
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Speaker 4: Oh no, he remains.

775
00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:34,040
Speaker 2: He remains property of the Cincinnati Bengals unless they would

776
00:40:34,080 --> 00:40:36,880
Speaker 2: trade him. And that's what happened with Carsony.

777
00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:38,799
Speaker 6: How long how long?

778
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Speaker 2: Well he had the Bengals. The Bengals owned the right.

779
00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:49,000
Speaker 4: To Joe Burrow based off of that last contract that

780
00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:51,800
Speaker 4: he signed. So Joe Burrow, if if Joe Burrow decided

781
00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:56,440
Speaker 4: to retire, he could not come back to another team

782
00:40:56,640 --> 00:40:59,600
Speaker 4: unless the Bengals give him permission to do so. Yes,

783
00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:03,520
Speaker 4: when you retire from a team, you just can't come

784
00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:05,600
Speaker 4: out of retirement and go back to another.

785
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Speaker 19: If his contract runs out, I don't know he's I

786
00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:12,080
Speaker 19: think his contract runs.

787
00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:14,479
Speaker 2: Out and he's got four years left.

788
00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:16,560
Speaker 4: He's got four years left of the one that he

789
00:41:16,719 --> 00:41:18,799
Speaker 4: just signed for two hundred and thirty something.

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00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:21,000
Speaker 19: It's a long time to be retired and then and

791
00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:24,480
Speaker 19: wanting to come back and play football like riverts did.

792
00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:29,279
Speaker 2: And and to pay back your pro rated signing bonus

793
00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:30,720
Speaker 2: because you're not playing.

794
00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:34,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, the men want to do that, the Bengals.

795
00:41:34,040 --> 00:41:37,359
Speaker 4: That structure of contract that Joe Burrow signed is not

796
00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:40,120
Speaker 4: just one of them out of the window contract. There's

797
00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:42,120
Speaker 4: a lot of ways inside of that contry.

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00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:44,920
Speaker 19: I don't I don't want to play for you guys anymore.

799
00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:50,000
Speaker 19: Trade make and the Bengals don't trading? What happens then? Then?

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Speaker 4: No, Then he's just sitting on the sideline and he's

801
00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:56,799
Speaker 4: not going to get paid. No, if he doesn't show up,

802
00:41:56,840 --> 00:41:57,520
Speaker 4: he's gonna get fined.

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00:41:57,600 --> 00:42:00,759
Speaker 19: I just wondering, you know, if how long ago I

804
00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:03,360
Speaker 19: raise the team of how the retirement and you decide,

805
00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:05,560
Speaker 19: you know, I'd like to come back and try to

806
00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:06,800
Speaker 19: play some more football.

807
00:42:07,120 --> 00:42:09,840
Speaker 4: Well, he won't be He won't get paid doing nothing.

808
00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:13,640
Speaker 4: Meaning if he's out there, if he's out there fishing,

809
00:42:14,040 --> 00:42:16,480
Speaker 4: if he's out there fishing, he won't be doing nothing.

810
00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:21,279
Speaker 4: So hey, appreciate the call. We gotta we gotta run.

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Speaker 19: I wonder how that worked, you know, all.

812
00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:25,759
Speaker 4: Right, thank you very much. We got to run. Do

813
00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:27,040
Speaker 4: we have Richard?

814
00:42:27,719 --> 00:42:30,600
Speaker 2: Hey, you know what, let's hang on Dick in Dayton.

815
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Speaker 2: We have reached the bottom of the hour break. You're

816
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Speaker 2: listening to the Tri State Chevy Dealers Postgame Sports Talk

817
00:42:38,040 --> 00:42:42,239
Speaker 2: presented by RNL Carriers. He's David Foulch. This is Chick Ludwig.

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00:42:42,719 --> 00:42:46,360
Speaker 2: We are live at Wings and Rings in Liberty Township

819
00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:55,760
Speaker 2: on seven hundred WLW in Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen thirty. Welcome

820
00:42:55,880 --> 00:42:58,600
Speaker 2: back to the Tri State Chevy Dealers post game Sports

821
00:42:58,640 --> 00:43:03,080
Speaker 2: Talk presented by Arnell Carriers. We are live at Wings

822
00:43:03,120 --> 00:43:07,479
Speaker 2: and Rings in Liberty Township, South Liberty Drive, right near

823
00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:12,359
Speaker 2: Lakota East High School, and we're talking Bengals football. They

824
00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:16,040
Speaker 2: lose today twenty to eighteen to the Cleveland Browns. Instead

825
00:43:16,080 --> 00:43:18,960
Speaker 2: of a sweep, the Bengals have to settle.

826
00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:19,280
Speaker 4: For a split.

827
00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:24,200
Speaker 2: And yes, Miles Garrett got his twenty third sack of

828
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Speaker 2: the season that sets a single season NFL record for sacks,

829
00:43:29,200 --> 00:43:34,920
Speaker 2: although before they started recording them, Cooy Bacon of the

830
00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:39,920
Speaker 2: Cincinnati Bengals, he's got he has it. He had twenty plus.

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00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:42,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, he had plenty plus. And then they didn't record

832
00:43:42,160 --> 00:43:43,880
Speaker 4: those sacks back then, And I wish they would have

833
00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:47,640
Speaker 4: because Coy Bacon the sacks, he's probably had twenty five,

834
00:43:47,719 --> 00:43:50,879
Speaker 4: twenty six of them, but they never counted them as

835
00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:55,399
Speaker 4: sacks until after he started playing. So I still think

836
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Speaker 4: that we've got the number one sack man right here

837
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Speaker 4: in Cincinnati. But you know, Miles Garrett. I was shocked though,

838
00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:04,359
Speaker 4: because I Miles Garrett after the Pittsburgh stee the game

839
00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:08,080
Speaker 4: said the Pittsburgh was so concerned about him, that's why

840
00:44:08,120 --> 00:44:10,200
Speaker 4: they lost the game. But then you go into the

841
00:44:10,239 --> 00:44:13,000
Speaker 4: game today and I felt like the Bengals were so

842
00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:17,600
Speaker 4: concerned about Miles Garrett getting that sash that everything was

843
00:44:17,640 --> 00:44:21,040
Speaker 4: happening very fast. Joe got They showed a highlight up there.

844
00:44:21,239 --> 00:44:23,520
Speaker 4: I'm watching them in the press box. He was getting

845
00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:25,239
Speaker 4: out of getting out of his hand about second and

846
00:44:25,239 --> 00:44:29,160
Speaker 4: a half two seconds. It was everything was quick. The sack.

847
00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:33,480
Speaker 4: If Joe Burrow goes to the right, he's running the football,

848
00:44:33,480 --> 00:44:36,279
Speaker 4: Miles Garrett doesn't get the sack. But Joe just went

849
00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:39,359
Speaker 4: down because maybe he felt it coming. But you saw

850
00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:41,360
Speaker 4: the one running play he had. Oh yeah, when you

851
00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:43,759
Speaker 4: start looking around like where's Miles Garrett and Miles was

852
00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:44,560
Speaker 4: right there on his back.

853
00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:46,880
Speaker 2: So Joe, Joe was smart, you know.

854
00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:49,040
Speaker 4: And and it wouldn't if Miles Garret would have got

855
00:44:49,080 --> 00:44:50,880
Speaker 4: that sack in the first quarter. Do you think he

856
00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:54,040
Speaker 4: had played the next three quarters because they took him

857
00:44:54,040 --> 00:44:55,919
Speaker 4: out of the game. He still had a quarter left,

858
00:44:57,239 --> 00:44:58,759
Speaker 4: So I don't know. I don't know if they were

859
00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:00,600
Speaker 4: just getting that sack and trying to take him out,

860
00:45:00,640 --> 00:45:01,279
Speaker 4: because they did.

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00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:03,640
Speaker 2: They took him out, I think for a play or two.

862
00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:06,360
Speaker 2: He came back on. There was five minutes or eleven

863
00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:09,000
Speaker 2: seconds to go in the game. I think you would

864
00:45:09,040 --> 00:45:11,160
Speaker 2: have continued to play to give himself some.

865
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Speaker 4: Room in some room.

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Speaker 2: He needs a fack.

867
00:45:14,360 --> 00:45:15,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's exactly.

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00:45:16,360 --> 00:45:21,160
Speaker 2: But anyway, when you have Miles Garrett breathing down you

869
00:45:21,239 --> 00:45:25,240
Speaker 2: that's why the Bengals attempted to run the football today.

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Speaker 4: They ran the ball quite often and ran it at him. Yes,

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00:45:28,719 --> 00:45:29,960
Speaker 4: you know, so a lot of people look at this

872
00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:32,680
Speaker 4: say we go back to Trey Henderson. You know, Trey

873
00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:36,440
Speaker 4: is a great pass rusher, grace airs rusher. He grated

874
00:45:36,480 --> 00:45:39,919
Speaker 4: out about in the nineties last year as quarterback pressers,

875
00:45:40,360 --> 00:45:43,319
Speaker 4: but against the run he was in the fifties. And

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00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:46,400
Speaker 4: this is coming from Andrew Whitworth. Whitworth did a study

877
00:45:46,440 --> 00:45:50,399
Speaker 4: on pass rushers and edge rushers Miles Garrett. They ran

878
00:45:50,440 --> 00:45:52,960
Speaker 4: the ball at Miles Garrett, and Miles Garrett wasn't making

879
00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:56,160
Speaker 4: a lot of tackles, so running the football at Miles Garrett,

880
00:45:56,320 --> 00:45:59,040
Speaker 4: they should have continued to keep doing that. They started

881
00:45:59,080 --> 00:46:00,400
Speaker 4: doing it, they were getting away with it, and then

882
00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:02,320
Speaker 4: they wanted to throw the football. When they throw the football,

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00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:06,000
Speaker 4: the Bengals will bring over a tight end, a wide receiver,

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00:46:06,080 --> 00:46:09,279
Speaker 4: and they tried to bump him. There were times that

885
00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:13,160
Speaker 4: that guy was he's just if you were you're a professional,

886
00:46:14,640 --> 00:46:15,400
Speaker 4: he's a game record.

887
00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:19,200
Speaker 2: And on that play, Orlando Brown Junior had no chance

888
00:46:19,320 --> 00:46:21,360
Speaker 2: because there was not help and was no help. He

889
00:46:21,520 --> 00:46:23,799
Speaker 2: just blew right past him and got the jail.

890
00:46:23,880 --> 00:46:27,120
Speaker 4: But the thing that gets me though, is this, You're

891
00:46:27,120 --> 00:46:31,280
Speaker 4: a national football player, football football player, Okay, in the NFL.

892
00:46:31,719 --> 00:46:34,000
Speaker 4: They pay you a lot of money to do your position.

893
00:46:34,040 --> 00:46:38,560
Speaker 4: You shouldn't have to get help. Orlando Brown getting help

894
00:46:38,640 --> 00:46:42,520
Speaker 4: from Chase Brown tight ends. There was one time one

895
00:46:42,520 --> 00:46:45,280
Speaker 4: of the tight ends was blocking Miles Garret by himself,

896
00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:47,439
Speaker 4: but Joe Burrow threw the ball really quick and Miles

897
00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:49,520
Speaker 4: Garrett tried, almost got there, but he threw the ball away.

898
00:46:49,680 --> 00:46:53,720
Speaker 4: So you shouldn't have to have help. But Miles Garrett

899
00:46:53,760 --> 00:46:56,279
Speaker 4: is a wrecking ball. We talk about wrecking ball on

900
00:46:56,320 --> 00:46:59,680
Speaker 4: this show. He's a wrecking ball. And I think the

901
00:46:59,760 --> 00:47:01,680
Speaker 4: being could not do what they wanted to do. They

902
00:47:01,680 --> 00:47:03,840
Speaker 4: threw the ball down the field maybe once or twice.

903
00:47:04,160 --> 00:47:06,920
Speaker 4: Everything was dink and dunk underneath because of the presser

904
00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:10,160
Speaker 4: that Miles Garrett brings to the offensive football teams.

905
00:47:10,200 --> 00:47:14,800
Speaker 2: Both Jamar Chase and t Higgins caught twenty one yard passes.

906
00:47:14,920 --> 00:47:17,360
Speaker 4: That was the longest pass play of the game for

907
00:47:17,400 --> 00:47:17,840
Speaker 4: the Bengals.

908
00:47:17,880 --> 00:47:21,000
Speaker 2: They wanted to run the ball and avoid getting sacked

909
00:47:21,040 --> 00:47:25,280
Speaker 2: by Miles Garrett. And meanwhile, the Bengals defense sacked Shador

910
00:47:25,440 --> 00:47:27,080
Speaker 2: Sanders six times.

911
00:47:27,239 --> 00:47:27,520
Speaker 4: Wow.

912
00:47:27,520 --> 00:47:31,680
Speaker 2: For negative twenty nine yards, So that's not bad. Bengals dominate.

913
00:47:32,040 --> 00:47:35,400
Speaker 2: They dominated the game, dominated, and lose twenty to eighteen.

914
00:47:35,480 --> 00:47:38,840
Speaker 4: And you know, you see this throughout the year. Teams

915
00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:42,360
Speaker 4: get beat up, teams get dominated, and the teams that

916
00:47:42,440 --> 00:47:45,200
Speaker 4: get dominated the other team scores more points. And at

917
00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:47,720
Speaker 4: the end of the game, when it clock says zero

918
00:47:47,880 --> 00:47:51,600
Speaker 4: zero zero, it's who win and who lost it, no

919
00:47:51,600 --> 00:47:52,520
Speaker 4: matter what does that say.

920
00:47:52,600 --> 00:47:55,279
Speaker 2: You're absolutely right. Let's go out to the phones. We

921
00:47:55,360 --> 00:48:00,279
Speaker 2: have Clayton. Is it in Mayfield? Yes, sir? How you

922
00:48:00,320 --> 00:48:04,360
Speaker 2: guys going all right? Man up in northeast Ohio a Cleveland.

923
00:48:03,880 --> 00:48:10,320
Speaker 12: Suburb, No, sir, Mainsville, Maysvilleayville, Kentuckysville, Kentucky.

924
00:48:10,400 --> 00:48:12,120
Speaker 4: Thank you, yes, sir.

925
00:48:13,120 --> 00:48:13,319
Speaker 2: Hey.

926
00:48:13,360 --> 00:48:16,239
Speaker 12: I kind of have a different opinion, kind of unpopular

927
00:48:16,320 --> 00:48:18,960
Speaker 12: opinion about how this season went to Borough and now

928
00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:23,759
Speaker 12: the team played. I believe when Burrow had suffered that

929
00:48:23,880 --> 00:48:28,000
Speaker 12: injury early on with the turf toe, allegedly he and

930
00:48:28,120 --> 00:48:31,600
Speaker 12: he was slated to be down for pretty much the

931
00:48:31,640 --> 00:48:35,280
Speaker 12: rest of the season, and we tried everything with brown

932
00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:38,319
Speaker 12: and and then flat though, and we played terribly for

933
00:48:38,400 --> 00:48:42,240
Speaker 12: multiple reasons on the defensive side and the offensive side,

934
00:48:42,280 --> 00:48:44,239
Speaker 12: not as much as on the offensive side, but it

935
00:48:44,280 --> 00:48:47,759
Speaker 12: could have been a little bit better. But we've had

936
00:48:47,920 --> 00:48:52,719
Speaker 12: such a dumpster fire of a season. I'm surprised that

937
00:48:53,160 --> 00:48:56,080
Speaker 12: they were so eager to rush Borough back in here,

938
00:48:56,160 --> 00:48:59,959
Speaker 12: as if he was going to be the saving grace

939
00:49:00,120 --> 00:49:02,920
Speaker 12: for our season, which was pretty much already by the

940
00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:05,360
Speaker 12: time he got back, and warm Duck was already in

941
00:49:05,400 --> 00:49:08,680
Speaker 12: the dumpster. I just feel like I was the only

942
00:49:08,719 --> 00:49:11,880
Speaker 12: person saying, hey, look, whether he's ready or not, he

943
00:49:11,960 --> 00:49:15,160
Speaker 12: needs to be disassociated with this dumpter fiver season. Let

944
00:49:15,239 --> 00:49:18,120
Speaker 12: him come back next year, fresh ready for war. Let

945
00:49:18,200 --> 00:49:21,319
Speaker 12: us make some changes in the offseason to accommodate him

946
00:49:21,320 --> 00:49:24,440
Speaker 12: a little bit better, because now what we got is

947
00:49:24,480 --> 00:49:27,520
Speaker 12: he didn't be rushed him back, and now he's unhappy,

948
00:49:27,560 --> 00:49:30,520
Speaker 12: and now he has all that Garreton got his sack

949
00:49:30,600 --> 00:49:31,600
Speaker 12: off on him.

950
00:49:31,960 --> 00:49:34,640
Speaker 2: Clayton, and I don't think they rushed him back. He

951
00:49:34,920 --> 00:49:38,080
Speaker 2: worked his tail off to get back. He is a

952
00:49:38,120 --> 00:49:42,960
Speaker 2: competitor and he wanted to come back, and he was

953
00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:46,040
Speaker 2: able to get healthy and play. I don't think no

954
00:49:46,239 --> 00:49:46,680
Speaker 2: Borrow would.

955
00:49:47,080 --> 00:49:49,960
Speaker 4: I don't think Joe Borow would have came back if

956
00:49:49,960 --> 00:49:52,520
Speaker 4: he did not have the surgery.

957
00:49:53,280 --> 00:49:54,719
Speaker 2: Turf told is.

958
00:49:56,280 --> 00:49:59,800
Speaker 4: If you've ever had it before. Man, it's very painful. Yes,

959
00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:03,960
Speaker 4: it's very painful. And for Joe I think I think

960
00:50:04,040 --> 00:50:06,520
Speaker 4: once he had that surgery done because I said it too.

961
00:50:06,840 --> 00:50:09,040
Speaker 4: Once he got the turf tow. I said, Joe's not

962
00:50:09,120 --> 00:50:11,600
Speaker 4: coming back if he comes back and play, period, because

963
00:50:11,640 --> 00:50:14,640
Speaker 4: turf tow is tough, especially the right turf toe that

964
00:50:14,680 --> 00:50:16,560
Speaker 4: he's got to throw off of he's got to push

965
00:50:16,560 --> 00:50:19,719
Speaker 4: off on. So but Joe wanted to come back, man,

966
00:50:19,760 --> 00:50:21,799
Speaker 4: and I applaud him for one to come back. He

967
00:50:21,880 --> 00:50:23,360
Speaker 4: said it. You paid me a lot of money to

968
00:50:23,360 --> 00:50:25,560
Speaker 4: play this game. Let me go out and play and

969
00:50:25,600 --> 00:50:29,080
Speaker 4: have because like these last three games, they're not going anywhere.

970
00:50:29,160 --> 00:50:32,319
Speaker 4: So you got your franchise quarterback with the opportunity or

971
00:50:32,320 --> 00:50:35,799
Speaker 4: a possibility of getting hurt again. And if he got

972
00:50:35,840 --> 00:50:37,920
Speaker 4: hurt again in the day, he could be out for

973
00:50:37,960 --> 00:50:40,160
Speaker 4: the rest of the season next year. But you know what,

974
00:50:40,200 --> 00:50:42,239
Speaker 4: he wanted to play, and I applaud him for doing that.

975
00:50:42,400 --> 00:50:45,040
Speaker 12: I know, and you know I'm not taking nothing from

976
00:50:45,080 --> 00:50:45,600
Speaker 12: him for that.

977
00:50:45,719 --> 00:50:46,160
Speaker 4: I get it.

978
00:50:46,200 --> 00:50:48,399
Speaker 12: He's got that fire and even as part of making

979
00:50:48,440 --> 00:50:51,440
Speaker 12: him such a such a stand up guy for us.

980
00:50:51,480 --> 00:50:54,239
Speaker 12: But so none of y'all think that it should have

981
00:50:54,280 --> 00:50:57,200
Speaker 12: been more talkspout. Hey, man, we want to we want

982
00:50:57,239 --> 00:50:59,480
Speaker 12: to make for sure that we don't get him in

983
00:50:59,560 --> 00:51:02,560
Speaker 12: here with season we've been having where it's pretty much

984
00:51:02,640 --> 00:51:04,439
Speaker 12: game over and we want to make sure.

985
00:51:04,480 --> 00:51:05,960
Speaker 2: Hey, if Flaco.

986
00:51:05,760 --> 00:51:08,120
Speaker 12: Gets you know, hey, Garrett, get that sack out on

987
00:51:08,239 --> 00:51:09,760
Speaker 12: flat though, all right.

988
00:51:09,680 --> 00:51:10,200
Speaker 4: So be it.

989
00:51:10,520 --> 00:51:13,279
Speaker 12: We don't really want Burrows racking up them type of

990
00:51:13,320 --> 00:51:16,160
Speaker 12: stacks with the picks and the interceptions and the and

991
00:51:16,239 --> 00:51:18,360
Speaker 12: the sack. We know it's kind of part of the

992
00:51:18,760 --> 00:51:21,399
Speaker 12: it's kind of the nature of the monsters. But it's

993
00:51:21,480 --> 00:51:24,040
Speaker 12: just been we got so much to fix as a team,

994
00:51:24,160 --> 00:51:24,800
Speaker 12: and I mean.

995
00:51:25,160 --> 00:51:29,360
Speaker 2: Especially Yeah, yeah, you're right. I mean you have Clayton.

996
00:51:29,360 --> 00:51:33,239
Speaker 2: We got to move on. Appreciate, appreciate you. Uh we've

997
00:51:33,239 --> 00:51:38,239
Speaker 2: got is it Bucky in uh in Taylor mil h

998
00:51:39,520 --> 00:51:40,439
Speaker 2: Bucky are you there?

999
00:51:42,200 --> 00:51:42,399
Speaker 3: Yes?

1000
00:51:44,120 --> 00:51:46,000
Speaker 4: What's on your mind? Welcome?

1001
00:51:47,920 --> 00:51:48,600
Speaker 3: Oh, thank you?

1002
00:51:48,680 --> 00:51:49,560
Speaker 10: Him to talk to y'all.

1003
00:51:51,239 --> 00:51:57,160
Speaker 4: My thought is, come on, Bucky, talk to us now.

1004
00:51:58,680 --> 00:52:01,480
Speaker 14: I'm sorry, y'all are in this on the offense and

1005
00:52:01,520 --> 00:52:05,399
Speaker 14: all McPherson, which agreed the offense.

1006
00:52:05,160 --> 00:52:07,240
Speaker 10: Doing that great didn't be that great.

1007
00:52:07,280 --> 00:52:10,360
Speaker 12: If Peerson had a bad game, but the defense needed

1008
00:52:10,480 --> 00:52:11,160
Speaker 12: one stop.

1009
00:52:11,840 --> 00:52:14,200
Speaker 3: And how many times this year is the defense not

1010
00:52:14,520 --> 00:52:16,799
Speaker 3: gotten that one stop that needed to win the game.

1011
00:52:17,760 --> 00:52:21,640
Speaker 4: Well, you're right, man, one stop, one stop. And you know,

1012
00:52:21,880 --> 00:52:24,760
Speaker 4: especially the way the game was played. Throughout the whole

1013
00:52:25,000 --> 00:52:29,680
Speaker 4: course of the game, Cleveland couldn't move the ball, throwing interceptions,

1014
00:52:29,719 --> 00:52:32,719
Speaker 4: getting sacks, all this stuff was happening three and a

1015
00:52:32,760 --> 00:52:36,480
Speaker 4: half quarters and then on the time that we really

1016
00:52:36,520 --> 00:52:38,800
Speaker 4: needed it, we couldn't come up with a player. So yeah,

1017
00:52:39,400 --> 00:52:41,680
Speaker 4: I would say, defense, if you make a play, we

1018
00:52:41,760 --> 00:52:44,480
Speaker 4: win the game. They didn't come up with the play.

1019
00:52:45,239 --> 00:52:47,719
Speaker 4: And time of possession. We gave them a little bit

1020
00:52:47,719 --> 00:52:51,719
Speaker 4: of time. And you know, you you one caller calls

1021
00:52:51,719 --> 00:52:53,920
Speaker 4: in and says we left him too much time. You

1022
00:52:53,960 --> 00:52:56,239
Speaker 4: know when when you win, when you go ahead with

1023
00:52:56,320 --> 00:52:59,400
Speaker 4: fifty seconds left in the game, and that's a very

1024
00:52:59,480 --> 00:53:02,920
Speaker 4: high percent. Normally some teams win those games, but for

1025
00:53:02,960 --> 00:53:03,879
Speaker 4: some reason we don't.

1026
00:53:06,520 --> 00:53:10,560
Speaker 3: As they score, I thought, we're gonna lose. There's too

1027
00:53:10,600 --> 00:53:11,080
Speaker 3: much time.

1028
00:53:12,400 --> 00:53:13,919
Speaker 4: Hey, Bucky, appreciate the call.

1029
00:53:14,040 --> 00:53:17,640
Speaker 2: Thank you. I I thought the same thing, there's too

1030
00:53:17,680 --> 00:53:20,200
Speaker 2: much time left on the clock. The defense played great

1031
00:53:20,280 --> 00:53:24,200
Speaker 2: for fifty eight and a half minutes that last one

1032
00:53:24,200 --> 00:53:28,919
Speaker 2: to twenty nine, Shador Sanders was able to go ten

1033
00:53:29,000 --> 00:53:32,320
Speaker 2: plays forty yards and get him in position for Andre

1034
00:53:32,560 --> 00:53:36,560
Speaker 2: Schmidt to go from goat to hero and beat the

1035
00:53:36,560 --> 00:53:39,920
Speaker 2: Bengals today twenty to eighteen. We've got to take a

1036
00:53:39,920 --> 00:53:44,800
Speaker 2: break and uh but before we do, a reminder to

1037
00:53:44,880 --> 00:53:47,359
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1038
00:53:47,600 --> 00:53:51,240
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1039
00:53:51,880 --> 00:53:55,080
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1040
00:53:55,160 --> 00:53:58,839
Speaker 2: weren't depending on the great fans coming out here too.

1041
00:53:59,040 --> 00:54:02,840
Speaker 2: We've got them man Rings in Liberty Township. He's David Fulter.

1042
00:54:02,960 --> 00:54:05,839
Speaker 2: This is Chick Ludwig. You're listening to the Tri State

1043
00:54:05,960 --> 00:54:10,759
Speaker 2: Chevy Dealers postgame Sports Talk presented by Rnel Carriers on

1044
00:54:11,120 --> 00:54:20,080
Speaker 2: seven hundred WLW and Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen thirty.

1045
00:54:23,280 --> 00:54:25,040
Speaker 4: We're having so much fun in your tick. We getting

1046
00:54:25,040 --> 00:54:26,400
Speaker 4: ready to go. Let's go tast it.

1047
00:54:26,560 --> 00:54:29,560
Speaker 2: We're listening to the Tri State Chevy Dealers postgame Sports

1048
00:54:29,560 --> 00:54:33,640
Speaker 2: Talk presented by Rnel Carriers. We're breaking down the Bengals

1049
00:54:33,680 --> 00:54:37,319
Speaker 2: twenty to eighteen loss to the Cleveland Browns today like

1050
00:54:37,360 --> 00:54:39,719
Speaker 2: a wrecking ball, and we're doing it at Wings and

1051
00:54:39,840 --> 00:54:44,759
Speaker 2: Rings Liberty Township, South Liberty Drive, good fights right near

1052
00:54:45,320 --> 00:54:48,600
Speaker 2: Lakota East High School. Good folks, home of the thunder Hawks.

1053
00:54:48,640 --> 00:54:51,319
Speaker 4: Thunderhawks love it here, and.

1054
00:54:52,360 --> 00:54:57,759
Speaker 2: David was this was a strange game, yea. Even Dan

1055
00:54:57,880 --> 00:55:01,880
Speaker 2: Horde and Lapp talked about how crazy it was to

1056
00:55:01,960 --> 00:55:06,360
Speaker 2: have two defensive scores within one minute and fifty seconds

1057
00:55:06,440 --> 00:55:07,000
Speaker 2: of each other.

1058
00:55:07,160 --> 00:55:10,040
Speaker 4: I started thinking, how many games have ever been played

1059
00:55:10,800 --> 00:55:16,400
Speaker 4: where two defensive touchdowns and an offense doesn't score a touchdown?

1060
00:55:17,760 --> 00:55:19,520
Speaker 4: And will they win that game?

1061
00:55:20,840 --> 00:55:23,720
Speaker 2: The Browns had forty yards of offense in the first

1062
00:55:23,760 --> 00:55:27,560
Speaker 2: half in their leading fourteen to twelve.

1063
00:55:27,719 --> 00:55:31,759
Speaker 4: Yeah, I was waiting. I was talking to my daughter.

1064
00:55:31,840 --> 00:55:33,719
Speaker 4: We go back and forth, and she's texting me about

1065
00:55:33,760 --> 00:55:38,160
Speaker 4: the game. I was waiting for something to happen for

1066
00:55:38,239 --> 00:55:40,520
Speaker 4: the Bengals, like, oh, you know, we're gonna come out

1067
00:55:40,560 --> 00:55:42,839
Speaker 4: of shell before you know it to be twenty eight

1068
00:55:42,880 --> 00:55:45,280
Speaker 4: to twelve and blah blah blah. And it never happened

1069
00:55:46,000 --> 00:55:47,960
Speaker 4: with that offense that we got. I was looking for

1070
00:55:48,000 --> 00:55:50,760
Speaker 4: something to happen, and it never happened today.

1071
00:55:50,960 --> 00:55:53,600
Speaker 2: And I've got to tip my cap to Jim schwartz

1072
00:55:53,680 --> 00:55:58,600
Speaker 2: Jim Schwartzman, defensive coordinator of the Cleveland Browns, former head

1073
00:55:58,640 --> 00:56:02,000
Speaker 2: coach of the did You Right Lions from two thousand

1074
00:56:02,040 --> 00:56:06,280
Speaker 2: and nine to twenty thirteen, but former defensive coordinator before

1075
00:56:06,360 --> 00:56:09,120
Speaker 2: that with the Titans, and then after the Lions with

1076
00:56:09,160 --> 00:56:11,400
Speaker 2: the Bills, Eagles and Browns.

1077
00:56:11,960 --> 00:56:15,600
Speaker 4: The guy is awesome. So someone just texted me, man

1078
00:56:15,640 --> 00:56:18,920
Speaker 4: and said, answer this nine aster, who it is, Answer me?

1079
00:56:19,000 --> 00:56:22,759
Speaker 4: How do you rush only four in the game on

1080
00:56:22,840 --> 00:56:26,200
Speaker 4: the winning drive against a rookie quarterback? And he had time?

1081
00:56:26,719 --> 00:56:30,799
Speaker 4: He confused, confusing, and you know what, once again, if

1082
00:56:30,840 --> 00:56:34,200
Speaker 4: you're putting more pressure as we were putting pressure on him,

1083
00:56:34,560 --> 00:56:37,720
Speaker 4: he got happy feet. He started running around doing things

1084
00:56:37,760 --> 00:56:40,239
Speaker 4: and throwing the ball away or getting sacked. And we

1085
00:56:40,320 --> 00:56:43,040
Speaker 4: going to that last and you know what's that that

1086
00:56:43,200 --> 00:56:48,919
Speaker 4: famous prevent defense preventing yourself from winning. Not the other

1087
00:56:48,960 --> 00:56:51,680
Speaker 4: team from beating you, but you're preventing yourself from winning

1088
00:56:51,680 --> 00:56:52,040
Speaker 4: the game.

1089
00:56:52,680 --> 00:56:54,040
Speaker 2: Keep throwing the dagger.

1090
00:56:53,719 --> 00:56:56,400
Speaker 4: At him, keep throwing bullets at him, you keep throwing

1091
00:56:56,480 --> 00:57:00,000
Speaker 4: everything you got at him. Because three and a half

1092
00:57:00,200 --> 00:57:03,040
Speaker 4: quarters you did that. And then in the last quarter,

1093
00:57:03,160 --> 00:57:07,600
Speaker 4: we last drive, we rush three, rush four. Don't put

1094
00:57:07,640 --> 00:57:10,479
Speaker 4: pressure on him, dropping back, trying to keep the ball

1095
00:57:10,520 --> 00:57:12,719
Speaker 4: in front of us, so we don't give up the

1096
00:57:12,719 --> 00:57:14,719
Speaker 4: big touchdown. But all they need is to feel go

1097
00:57:14,760 --> 00:57:16,600
Speaker 4: to win the game. And sure enough, that's what they did.

1098
00:57:16,760 --> 00:57:21,120
Speaker 2: Ten plays, forty yards and they got it in position

1099
00:57:21,400 --> 00:57:27,720
Speaker 2: for Andre Schmidt forty nine yards at the gun twenty

1100
00:57:27,720 --> 00:57:30,760
Speaker 2: to eighteen. Tough man, brutal, just brutal, rookie quarterback, and

1101
00:57:30,800 --> 00:57:32,240
Speaker 2: you give him all the time in the world to

1102
00:57:32,240 --> 00:57:35,240
Speaker 2: throw the football. And on that last drive, man, you

1103
00:57:35,320 --> 00:57:36,040
Speaker 2: bring the house.

1104
00:57:36,840 --> 00:57:39,440
Speaker 4: You if they're gonna beat me, I'm well, let me

1105
00:57:39,520 --> 00:57:42,720
Speaker 4: back this up because both of our starting corners went down,

1106
00:57:43,440 --> 00:57:45,000
Speaker 4: so now we had to bring in the back ends,

1107
00:57:45,040 --> 00:57:46,240
Speaker 4: the backups, and.

1108
00:57:46,200 --> 00:57:49,959
Speaker 2: The Browns were missing four fifths of their offensive line. Yes,

1109
00:57:50,400 --> 00:57:56,920
Speaker 2: and they're starting cornerbacks Caldwell and Denzel Ward.

1110
00:57:57,000 --> 00:57:59,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, both of those guys went down early. That's right,

1111
00:57:59,560 --> 00:58:01,720
Speaker 4: they went down early. One of them came back, and

1112
00:58:01,760 --> 00:58:02,960
Speaker 4: I think one did not come back.

1113
00:58:02,960 --> 00:58:06,000
Speaker 2: It was called Well with the shoulder War didn't come back,

1114
00:58:06,040 --> 00:58:09,160
Speaker 2: and denshell Ward with the neck injury, did not come back.

1115
00:58:09,320 --> 00:58:09,720
Speaker 2: To see you.

1116
00:58:10,120 --> 00:58:13,840
Speaker 4: You've you know the guy that just texted me? Is

1117
00:58:13,840 --> 00:58:17,600
Speaker 4: it poor coaching? Is it h players line up in

1118
00:58:17,640 --> 00:58:20,200
Speaker 4: the wrong position? I mean, what does it mean. First

1119
00:58:20,240 --> 00:58:22,520
Speaker 4: of all, I don't never blame anything on the coach.

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00:58:23,080 --> 00:58:25,520
Speaker 4: You know, miss the tackles that were missed this year

1121
00:58:26,400 --> 00:58:28,800
Speaker 4: was horrific. The guys that's missed so many tackles. So

1122
00:58:28,960 --> 00:58:31,080
Speaker 4: I can't blame the coach for that. That's that's the player.

1123
00:58:31,840 --> 00:58:34,480
Speaker 4: But when you got a system that these guys are

1124
00:58:34,520 --> 00:58:37,120
Speaker 4: running through the system, it took him a while earlier

1125
00:58:37,120 --> 00:58:38,840
Speaker 4: to get this system down and they got a little

1126
00:58:38,880 --> 00:58:41,480
Speaker 4: bit better. But as a professional athlete, when you're in

1127
00:58:41,480 --> 00:58:44,160
Speaker 4: the field, you had one job to do, that's tackle.

1128
00:58:44,800 --> 00:58:47,040
Speaker 4: You got one job to do on offense that's catch

1129
00:58:47,120 --> 00:58:50,320
Speaker 4: and block, hold on to the football. When you don't

1130
00:58:50,320 --> 00:58:52,520
Speaker 4: do that, you don't belong out there.

1131
00:58:52,840 --> 00:58:56,800
Speaker 2: Rock. What worries me about the Bengals is when they

1132
00:58:56,840 --> 00:59:02,240
Speaker 2: get nine yards and need one I know, second fifty

1133
00:59:02,360 --> 00:59:05,960
Speaker 2: nine to go, second and one, I know, third and

1134
00:59:06,040 --> 00:59:10,720
Speaker 2: one and then fourth and one they come out. That's

1135
00:59:10,760 --> 00:59:13,320
Speaker 2: a delay of game, a delay a game.

1136
00:59:13,640 --> 00:59:13,920
Speaker 15: What.

1137
00:59:14,520 --> 00:59:15,920
Speaker 2: Let me tell you what happened.

1138
00:59:16,000 --> 00:59:18,880
Speaker 4: If y'all out there listening, if Chick Lovewick could take

1139
00:59:18,920 --> 00:59:22,040
Speaker 4: some of this energy he had right here, Bengles would

1140
00:59:22,080 --> 00:59:23,240
Speaker 4: have won forty something nothing.

1141
00:59:23,280 --> 00:59:28,919
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, I appreciate that rock. Okay, rock, while

1142
00:59:28,960 --> 00:59:32,240
Speaker 2: we're here. Uh, let's go out to the phones. Welcome

1143
00:59:32,280 --> 00:59:36,200
Speaker 2: to our friend Brandon in Indianapolis. Brandon House up man, Hi.

1144
00:59:36,080 --> 00:59:39,960
Speaker 8: Brandon, Hey hey check Hey foot Rock, Happy New Year.

1145
00:59:39,960 --> 00:59:41,240
Speaker 10: Do you mind if I call you a fault rock?

1146
00:59:41,760 --> 00:59:44,120
Speaker 4: That's my nickname. Man, it's all good. First, don't just

1147
00:59:44,160 --> 00:59:48,320
Speaker 4: don't call me late for dinner. So faux rock Rock.

1148
00:59:49,680 --> 00:59:49,960
Speaker 3: Hey.

1149
00:59:49,960 --> 00:59:52,280
Speaker 8: Uh, it's good to talk to you guys in that chickup.

1150
00:59:52,520 --> 00:59:55,400
Speaker 8: You know, I comment on your Facebook about the when

1151
00:59:55,400 --> 00:59:57,360
Speaker 8: you put the schedule out about the cults the other day.

1152
00:59:57,360 --> 00:59:58,600
Speaker 8: I mean, we're upset.

1153
00:59:58,680 --> 00:59:58,840
Speaker 3: You know.

1154
00:59:58,880 --> 01:00:00,640
Speaker 8: I'm a Bengo fan too, but I would love but

1155
01:00:00,800 --> 01:00:02,040
Speaker 8: you know, because I don't know why I don't play

1156
01:00:02,040 --> 01:00:04,000
Speaker 8: each other well often. I mean, you're right, sometimes you

1157
01:00:04,040 --> 01:00:05,960
Speaker 8: can get you know, down there less than two hours.

1158
01:00:06,000 --> 01:00:08,400
Speaker 8: It just depends on traffic. But the Colts, you know,

1159
01:00:08,480 --> 01:00:10,880
Speaker 8: lost seven straight. But guys, what I'm going to say

1160
01:00:10,880 --> 01:00:13,680
Speaker 8: about the Bengals is, you know, I know that they

1161
01:00:13,680 --> 01:00:16,000
Speaker 8: were talk great writers talking about the Colts, and they

1162
01:00:16,040 --> 01:00:18,400
Speaker 8: were saying that the fans shouldn't make decisions.

1163
01:00:18,400 --> 01:00:19,080
Speaker 10: The owners have to.

1164
01:00:19,200 --> 01:00:22,120
Speaker 8: I understand that, but if it wasn't it for us.

1165
01:00:22,600 --> 01:00:25,040
Speaker 10: You know, we put butts to the seats.

1166
01:00:25,080 --> 01:00:26,200
Speaker 8: You know, if we don't like what we see, we

1167
01:00:26,240 --> 01:00:27,680
Speaker 8: don't have to put our butts in the seats. And

1168
01:00:27,680 --> 01:00:29,200
Speaker 8: I don't know how you feel about that day, But

1169
01:00:29,720 --> 01:00:32,160
Speaker 8: are Chicky the one? But I mean, I don't blame

1170
01:00:32,240 --> 01:00:35,800
Speaker 8: Joe Burrow. I mean, hopefully that was this, this rare

1171
01:00:35,880 --> 01:00:37,120
Speaker 8: or whatever that he's gonna leave.

1172
01:00:37,160 --> 01:00:38,280
Speaker 10: But I don't blame him in a way.

1173
01:00:38,640 --> 01:00:40,640
Speaker 8: The Bengals aren't getting anybody to play around him.

1174
01:00:40,560 --> 01:00:43,040
Speaker 5: Since that Super Bowl run, So I don't blame him.

1175
01:00:43,080 --> 01:00:45,040
Speaker 10: If he wants to go, I think I want to too.

1176
01:00:45,560 --> 01:00:46,000
Speaker 2: No, I don't.

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01:00:46,000 --> 01:00:48,760
Speaker 4: I don't think that Joe Burrow's going anywhere. I think

1178
01:00:48,800 --> 01:00:51,160
Speaker 4: a lot of it is, man, it's frustration. Yes, you

1179
01:00:51,200 --> 01:00:53,000
Speaker 4: do not let a friend. You don't let a franchise

1180
01:00:53,080 --> 01:00:54,760
Speaker 4: quarterback get out of here. That's why they signed into

1181
01:00:54,800 --> 01:00:57,800
Speaker 4: that big old contract. So once again, Joe Burrow's not

1182
01:00:57,840 --> 01:00:58,480
Speaker 4: going anywhere.

1183
01:00:58,520 --> 01:00:58,760
Speaker 3: Now.

1184
01:00:59,720 --> 01:01:02,120
Speaker 4: It's sounds like he's a little bit upset because he's

1185
01:01:02,160 --> 01:01:04,960
Speaker 4: tired of losing, but we all are too. And the

1186
01:01:05,000 --> 01:01:07,800
Speaker 4: problem is though they can't they can't interview the whole

1187
01:01:07,840 --> 01:01:10,640
Speaker 4: team after a game, right, So they're gonna interview the

1188
01:01:10,680 --> 01:01:13,880
Speaker 4: star players, and normally it's the quarterback, a wide receiver,

1189
01:01:13,960 --> 01:01:17,560
Speaker 4: and maybe a defensive guy. So if you ask everybody

1190
01:01:17,640 --> 01:01:21,360
Speaker 4: that same question, you're gonna get sixty seventy eighty percent

1191
01:01:21,360 --> 01:01:24,080
Speaker 4: of them saying, hey, listen, we just got to get better.

1192
01:01:24,440 --> 01:01:27,400
Speaker 4: Joe Burrow has a voice and an opinion to say

1193
01:01:27,440 --> 01:01:29,960
Speaker 4: what he says, and that's what he says. I'm not

1194
01:01:30,040 --> 01:01:33,280
Speaker 4: having fun. Well, when you're losing, that's not fun. I

1195
01:01:33,280 --> 01:01:36,000
Speaker 4: don't care whatever sport it is. But when you're winning,

1196
01:01:37,000 --> 01:01:39,760
Speaker 4: it's fun. Nobody wants to lose, and that guy does

1197
01:01:39,800 --> 01:01:40,920
Speaker 4: not want to lose.

1198
01:01:42,160 --> 01:01:44,640
Speaker 10: But Dave, I mean, I know, I'm sure you agree that.

1199
01:01:44,920 --> 01:01:46,280
Speaker 10: I mean, I know we can't go in there and

1200
01:01:46,360 --> 01:01:48,000
Speaker 10: help Mike. You got to get a new coach bike,

1201
01:01:48,040 --> 01:01:50,720
Speaker 10: you got it. I mean, that's his job. But if

1202
01:01:50,720 --> 01:01:51,080
Speaker 10: we're not.

1203
01:01:51,120 --> 01:01:53,160
Speaker 8: Happy, we don't have to come back. I mean, you know,

1204
01:01:53,200 --> 01:01:54,800
Speaker 8: I mean, I'm just saying the fans, I think you

1205
01:01:54,840 --> 01:01:55,680
Speaker 8: do have a lot to say.

1206
01:01:56,000 --> 01:01:57,400
Speaker 5: I'm not saying we rule the roost.

1207
01:01:57,440 --> 01:01:59,440
Speaker 8: But do you think Zach Taylor is back next year?

1208
01:01:59,440 --> 01:02:01,280
Speaker 10: I'm so many yes, you.

1209
01:02:01,280 --> 01:02:04,480
Speaker 2: Will be baby back a way because of the continuity

1210
01:02:04,720 --> 01:02:07,720
Speaker 2: with the offense, now all bets are off. He's an

1211
01:02:07,720 --> 01:02:12,160
Speaker 2: offensive deal. If this team starts one in four or

1212
01:02:12,200 --> 01:02:16,560
Speaker 2: two and five, two and six, it finishes below five

1213
01:02:16,640 --> 01:02:20,640
Speaker 2: hundred and misses the playoffs next year, ar McCaddon.

1214
01:02:20,800 --> 01:02:24,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, it might be absolute Army, Cad might be ton Yes,

1215
01:02:24,200 --> 01:02:25,560
Speaker 4: you know, and I think Joe Burrow said it to

1216
01:02:25,760 --> 01:02:28,560
Speaker 4: Joe Burrow said in his presconference today that I have

1217
01:02:28,720 --> 01:02:32,520
Speaker 4: all the faith in my coaches. Yes, they come out there,

1218
01:02:32,520 --> 01:02:34,760
Speaker 4: they work hard, they get us prepared. I can understand that.

1219
01:02:35,280 --> 01:02:39,400
Speaker 4: But playing in the NFL or any sport, if you

1220
01:02:39,520 --> 01:02:44,080
Speaker 4: don't win, it's time to move on. And I'm not

1221
01:02:44,120 --> 01:02:46,120
Speaker 4: saying that Zach Taylor should going towhere. I like Zach,

1222
01:02:46,720 --> 01:02:51,160
Speaker 4: but I also understand too. Winning solves a lot of problems.

1223
01:02:51,400 --> 01:02:55,160
Speaker 4: And if you're not winning, officially, somebody, and it may

1224
01:02:55,200 --> 01:02:58,040
Speaker 4: not be Mike, It might be the fans of Cincinnati.

1225
01:02:58,400 --> 01:03:00,520
Speaker 4: They might get tired of it. And you know what,

1226
01:03:00,560 --> 01:03:02,240
Speaker 4: when you get tired of it, you don't do it.

1227
01:03:02,280 --> 01:03:06,720
Speaker 4: And if it starts hurting Mike's pocketbook, things could change.

1228
01:03:07,000 --> 01:03:08,680
Speaker 4: That might be some of the things that Joe Burrow

1229
01:03:08,800 --> 01:03:12,720
Speaker 4: is talking about. We need change. Bring in players, bring

1230
01:03:12,760 --> 01:03:15,280
Speaker 4: in people that want to win that know how to win,

1231
01:03:15,840 --> 01:03:18,600
Speaker 4: and we want to win now, because that's the only

1232
01:03:18,640 --> 01:03:22,240
Speaker 4: reason why these guys play the sport is to win championships.

1233
01:03:22,680 --> 01:03:25,800
Speaker 4: You don't play the sport just because now they're making

1234
01:03:25,840 --> 01:03:28,040
Speaker 4: a whole lot of money today and those paychecks look

1235
01:03:28,080 --> 01:03:30,920
Speaker 4: pretty good. But the ultimate goal at the end of

1236
01:03:30,960 --> 01:03:33,600
Speaker 4: the year is to be a champion. And if you're

1237
01:03:33,600 --> 01:03:37,560
Speaker 4: not a champion, why are you playing the game? And

1238
01:03:37,640 --> 01:03:40,160
Speaker 4: that's why this is going to be a defensive draft.

1239
01:03:40,440 --> 01:03:43,280
Speaker 2: And even in free agency you're bringing in defensive place.

1240
01:03:44,960 --> 01:03:46,840
Speaker 2: Some are saying, oh, it's going to take a year

1241
01:03:47,040 --> 01:03:50,120
Speaker 2: or two or longer to get this defense straightened out. No,

1242
01:03:50,520 --> 01:03:53,160
Speaker 2: look at what the Texans have done, look at what

1243
01:03:53,960 --> 01:03:57,000
Speaker 2: the Jags have done, and the Chicago Bears have done.

1244
01:03:57,240 --> 01:04:00,400
Speaker 2: They've taken double digit losses and now they're going to

1245
01:04:00,440 --> 01:04:01,000
Speaker 2: the playoffs.

1246
01:04:01,000 --> 01:04:05,240
Speaker 4: And you have an offensive minded head coach. Most of

1247
01:04:05,280 --> 01:04:07,880
Speaker 4: the head coaches that are coaching in the National Football League,

1248
01:04:07,920 --> 01:04:10,640
Speaker 4: a lot of them are defensive minded coaches. So if

1249
01:04:10,680 --> 01:04:14,480
Speaker 4: I'm a defensive minding guy, that means I'm more important

1250
01:04:14,720 --> 01:04:19,120
Speaker 4: and concerned about my defense. Zach Taylor's an offensive minded

1251
01:04:19,200 --> 01:04:22,360
Speaker 4: guy who was in the Rams. Under the Rams head coach. Yes,

1252
01:04:22,960 --> 01:04:24,960
Speaker 4: now he comes here and he's offensive minded guy. So

1253
01:04:25,440 --> 01:04:28,240
Speaker 4: Zach Taylor wants to throw the football forty to fifty times.

1254
01:04:29,080 --> 01:04:32,080
Speaker 4: A defensive minded coach is saying, put it on the

1255
01:04:32,120 --> 01:04:34,800
Speaker 4: ground so my defense can get out there and stop

1256
01:04:34,840 --> 01:04:38,200
Speaker 4: your offense. Zach Taylor's not concerned about what I'm not

1257
01:04:38,240 --> 01:04:40,919
Speaker 4: saying that They back that up. He is concerned about

1258
01:04:40,920 --> 01:04:44,760
Speaker 4: his defense, but he's more concerned about scoring points than

1259
01:04:44,800 --> 01:04:45,480
Speaker 4: anything else.

1260
01:04:45,760 --> 01:04:48,439
Speaker 2: And with that, we've got to take a break. We've

1261
01:04:48,440 --> 01:04:50,920
Speaker 2: reached the top of the seven o'clock hour. You're listening

1262
01:04:50,920 --> 01:04:54,440
Speaker 2: to the Tri State Chevy Dealers Postgame Sports Talk presented

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01:05:00,800 --> 01:05:05,120
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01:06:26,320 --> 01:06:30,080
Speaker 2: post game sports Talk presented by RNL Carriers on seven

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1286
01:06:34,760 --> 01:06:35,520
Speaker 4: This is Chick.

1287
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Speaker 2: Ludwig on alongside Bengals legendary strong safety David Foulcher Faux Rock,

1288
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Speaker 2: and we are breaking down the bengals twenty to eighteen

1289
01:06:43,720 --> 01:06:47,600
Speaker 2: loss to the Cleveland Browns like a wrecking ball. We

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Speaker 2: are here in Liberty Township's location until eight thirty tonight,

1295
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Speaker 2: and you're invited. If you can't stop by, hope you'll

1296
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Speaker 2: tune in and call us at five, one, three, seven, four, nine,

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Speaker 2: seven thousand or one eight hundred the Big one and

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Speaker 2: right now, rock, let's highlight the drive of the game,

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Speaker 2: brought to you by the BMW Store. There are over

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Speaker 2: three hundred and fifty BMW centers in the United States,

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Speaker 2: but there's only one store, the BMW Store where Passion

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Speaker 2: Loves Company. I'd like to be driving a BMW now

1303
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Speaker 2: like Ken Brew and his wife. Oh yeah, all right,

1304
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Speaker 2: the drive of the game. How about saving Gosh the

1305
01:07:49,840 --> 01:07:53,479
Speaker 2: best for last? When the Bengals finally took a lead, yes,

1306
01:07:54,200 --> 01:07:58,480
Speaker 2: one twenty nine to go, it highlighted the seven place

1307
01:07:58,560 --> 01:08:03,760
Speaker 2: sixty one yard scoring Jamar Chase catches a four yard

1308
01:08:03,760 --> 01:08:07,919
Speaker 2: touchdown pass from Joe Burrow, giving the Bengals.

1309
01:08:07,640 --> 01:08:10,000
Speaker 4: A short lived eighteen to seventeen league.

1310
01:08:10,000 --> 01:08:12,800
Speaker 2: They went for the two point conversion, it got knocked down,

1311
01:08:13,160 --> 01:08:17,240
Speaker 2: didn't didn't get it, but the Bengals couldn't protect the

1312
01:08:17,280 --> 01:08:18,719
Speaker 2: final one twenty nine.

1313
01:08:18,880 --> 01:08:22,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, and someone called about, you know, giving them time

1314
01:08:22,320 --> 01:08:26,120
Speaker 4: on the clock. It's you know, it's hard. It's hard

1315
01:08:26,160 --> 01:08:30,120
Speaker 4: to let cord. It's hard to let the clock run out.

1316
01:08:30,280 --> 01:08:33,680
Speaker 4: When you're down, you know, you have to go and

1317
01:08:33,680 --> 01:08:38,080
Speaker 4: score a touchdown. But then defensively, you've got to stop people.

1318
01:08:38,960 --> 01:08:41,120
Speaker 4: Other teams are doing it in the NFL, they're stopping

1319
01:08:41,120 --> 01:08:44,640
Speaker 4: them at certain times. So why are we struggling so much?

1320
01:08:44,720 --> 01:08:49,720
Speaker 4: That's why I believe that next year's additions to the

1321
01:08:49,760 --> 01:08:53,280
Speaker 4: Cincinnati Bengals should be all defense, because if you put

1322
01:08:53,280 --> 01:08:55,200
Speaker 4: all defense, and I'm not saying the defensive guys we

1323
01:08:55,320 --> 01:08:58,320
Speaker 4: got are bad. Some of them need to be better tackler,

1324
01:08:58,400 --> 01:08:59,880
Speaker 4: some of them need to be this and that. But

1325
01:09:00,800 --> 01:09:03,120
Speaker 4: you don't need you don't need another wide receiver, you

1326
01:09:03,120 --> 01:09:04,519
Speaker 4: don't need another running back.

1327
01:09:04,360 --> 01:09:07,040
Speaker 2: You don't need another this. You might need a lineman.

1328
01:09:08,080 --> 01:09:12,479
Speaker 4: But defensively, we're going we're stacking on defense. We need edge,

1329
01:09:12,640 --> 01:09:15,320
Speaker 4: we need interior, we need you know, we got some

1330
01:09:15,360 --> 01:09:18,679
Speaker 4: pretty good young young linebackers, but we need defensive guys

1331
01:09:19,160 --> 01:09:22,640
Speaker 4: because I think Joe Burrow would love to have a

1332
01:09:22,680 --> 01:09:24,960
Speaker 4: better defense than he had this year because of the

1333
01:09:25,000 --> 01:09:26,960
Speaker 4: stuff that he does on offense, no doubt.

1334
01:09:27,240 --> 01:09:31,160
Speaker 2: And Rock speaking from the defensive standpoint, what does the

1335
01:09:31,200 --> 01:09:34,280
Speaker 2: push up the middle by the defensive tackles, what does

1336
01:09:34,320 --> 01:09:36,640
Speaker 2: that do and the edge rushers? What does that do

1337
01:09:36,760 --> 01:09:39,360
Speaker 2: for the secondary? Well, it makes it easy to cover.

1338
01:09:40,160 --> 01:09:42,680
Speaker 4: It makes it it makes it easy to defend when

1339
01:09:42,720 --> 01:09:45,080
Speaker 4: you're back, when you're out there and you're chasing a

1340
01:09:45,200 --> 01:09:47,720
Speaker 4: man who's running around the field and you have no

1341
01:09:47,800 --> 01:09:50,960
Speaker 4: idea where he's going, it gives him all the opportunity

1342
01:09:50,960 --> 01:09:53,320
Speaker 4: in the world to do that. Even the day's game,

1343
01:09:53,479 --> 01:09:55,960
Speaker 4: there were a lot of times that Sanders was back

1344
01:09:55,960 --> 01:09:58,400
Speaker 4: there looking for somebody to throw the ball to and

1345
01:09:58,439 --> 01:10:01,040
Speaker 4: he couldn't find him. You know why, because those guys

1346
01:10:01,040 --> 01:10:04,439
Speaker 4: were covered. They were covered today, and then it gives

1347
01:10:04,800 --> 01:10:08,519
Speaker 4: an opportunity to make plays. And that defensive line made

1348
01:10:08,520 --> 01:10:11,120
Speaker 4: some plays today. Sacked in six times. Yes, when was

1349
01:10:11,160 --> 01:10:15,000
Speaker 4: the last time this defense sacked anybody six times in

1350
01:10:15,000 --> 01:10:15,360
Speaker 4: the game?

1351
01:10:15,840 --> 01:10:16,519
Speaker 2: Not this year?

1352
01:10:16,640 --> 01:10:20,960
Speaker 4: And they had opportunities for interceptions oh yeah, Ginalstone, there

1353
01:10:20,960 --> 01:10:22,439
Speaker 4: was one of them. Came right in front of genal Thtone.

1354
01:10:22,520 --> 01:10:24,240
Speaker 4: He was going for the hit. Ball comes right over

1355
01:10:24,320 --> 01:10:24,719
Speaker 4: the top.

1356
01:10:24,560 --> 01:10:24,920
Speaker 2: Of the guy.

1357
01:10:25,040 --> 01:10:27,360
Speaker 4: You intercept that ball, you're not gonna get every hit.

1358
01:10:27,439 --> 01:10:30,879
Speaker 4: And in this case Geno Stone, who's missing tackles anyway,

1359
01:10:31,120 --> 01:10:32,439
Speaker 4: go get the damn ball and.

1360
01:10:32,520 --> 01:10:33,160
Speaker 2: Go get the ball.

1361
01:10:33,240 --> 01:10:35,519
Speaker 4: And had he not, if he would have whiffed on it.

1362
01:10:35,640 --> 01:10:39,479
Speaker 2: The guy behind him, Yes, the Bengals interception, Yes, and

1363
01:10:39,520 --> 01:10:42,200
Speaker 2: he's laying there on the ground like, man, I had it.

1364
01:10:42,280 --> 01:10:45,559
Speaker 2: I had it, but Gino chipped it away.

1365
01:10:45,720 --> 01:10:49,519
Speaker 4: Now I just think that again, this football team is

1366
01:10:49,560 --> 01:10:51,920
Speaker 4: a good football team. It's probably one of the best

1367
01:10:52,400 --> 01:10:54,920
Speaker 4: non playoff teams that are not in there right now.

1368
01:10:55,439 --> 01:10:57,840
Speaker 4: So we got to figure out going forward, what's our

1369
01:10:57,840 --> 01:10:58,320
Speaker 4: next step.

1370
01:10:58,720 --> 01:10:59,880
Speaker 2: What do we do next?

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01:11:00,280 --> 01:11:03,280
Speaker 4: I think you're gonna have to find some free agency

1372
01:11:03,479 --> 01:11:06,240
Speaker 4: veterans out there. I'm not talking about a twelve year guy.

1373
01:11:06,680 --> 01:11:08,680
Speaker 4: I'm talking about somebody that playing that five to ten

1374
01:11:08,760 --> 01:11:11,760
Speaker 4: year range that could help a younger player develop and

1375
01:11:11,800 --> 01:11:12,640
Speaker 4: get where they need to be.

1376
01:11:13,040 --> 01:11:14,200
Speaker 2: We've got two young.

1377
01:11:14,080 --> 01:11:19,519
Speaker 4: Rookie linebackers that are pretty good except their green and

1378
01:11:19,560 --> 01:11:21,519
Speaker 4: they're running out of that they're running out of space.

1379
01:11:21,560 --> 01:11:22,960
Speaker 2: They're just running up and down the field.

1380
01:11:24,000 --> 01:11:27,000
Speaker 4: A veteran linebacker, Wilson that we got rid of and

1381
01:11:27,040 --> 01:11:30,519
Speaker 4: we send him the Dallas said. He's the captain of

1382
01:11:30,560 --> 01:11:33,040
Speaker 4: the defense. And you get rid of him, you bitch

1383
01:11:33,120 --> 01:11:35,160
Speaker 4: him because this guy runs the four to three and

1384
01:11:35,160 --> 01:11:37,800
Speaker 4: I run a four to six. But what Wilson is

1385
01:11:37,800 --> 01:11:40,920
Speaker 4: bringing to the table is knowledge, yes, And I'll take

1386
01:11:40,960 --> 01:11:44,120
Speaker 4: knowledge over speed in youth any day. But that guy

1387
01:11:44,160 --> 01:11:47,200
Speaker 4: who's learning from Wilson, I mean a couple of years

1388
01:11:47,240 --> 01:11:49,040
Speaker 4: from now, he'll be the new Wilson.

1389
01:11:49,720 --> 01:11:51,120
Speaker 2: See. And that's how you staff.

1390
01:11:51,200 --> 01:11:54,479
Speaker 4: That's how you build a football team by not just

1391
01:11:54,520 --> 01:11:57,000
Speaker 4: getting rid of the old guy, but letting the old

1392
01:11:57,000 --> 01:11:59,920
Speaker 4: guy help the young guy come along. And then now

1393
01:12:00,120 --> 01:12:01,519
Speaker 4: gonna be a better football team by that.

1394
01:12:01,560 --> 01:12:04,759
Speaker 2: And you know what that reminds me of the Pittsburgh Steelers.

1395
01:12:04,760 --> 01:12:06,639
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, the way they do it. They know how

1396
01:12:06,640 --> 01:12:08,840
Speaker 4: to develop, they know how to go out and find

1397
01:12:09,000 --> 01:12:12,880
Speaker 4: if they if they go lose a linebacker, let me

1398
01:12:12,920 --> 01:12:15,240
Speaker 4: tell you next year's draft, they gonna go find that

1399
01:12:15,400 --> 01:12:18,760
Speaker 4: same guy that they lost and some college somewhere else.

1400
01:12:19,000 --> 01:12:22,360
Speaker 4: And when he comes in, he's playing in a system

1401
01:12:22,400 --> 01:12:24,880
Speaker 4: that he may have played in college, so they ran

1402
01:12:24,920 --> 01:12:26,840
Speaker 4: a three to four in college, or they ran a

1403
01:12:26,840 --> 01:12:29,120
Speaker 4: three three five in college, and we bring him in

1404
01:12:29,160 --> 01:12:31,040
Speaker 4: here as a linebacker and we're.

1405
01:12:30,960 --> 01:12:32,120
Speaker 2: Running that same defense.

1406
01:12:32,640 --> 01:12:34,640
Speaker 4: The only difference between that guy and the guy that

1407
01:12:34,760 --> 01:12:37,639
Speaker 4: was there before is the last name and the change

1408
01:12:37,680 --> 01:12:38,200
Speaker 4: of the number.

1409
01:12:38,640 --> 01:12:40,960
Speaker 2: Or he's already there and that he's ready.

1410
01:12:42,479 --> 01:12:43,040
Speaker 4: Experience.

1411
01:12:43,160 --> 01:12:45,200
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, they plug him right in, blug him right in.

1412
01:12:45,360 --> 01:12:49,519
Speaker 4: Man, we know, chick, wait, we needed the Bengals need

1413
01:12:49,520 --> 01:12:52,640
Speaker 4: a general manager? Can you get out of radio? And

1414
01:12:52,920 --> 01:12:54,280
Speaker 4: maybe I can get out of this and I'll be

1415
01:12:54,320 --> 01:12:56,240
Speaker 4: a general manager. You know, I just know a little

1416
01:12:56,240 --> 01:12:57,920
Speaker 4: bit about football, and I'm not trying to say they

1417
01:12:57,920 --> 01:13:01,400
Speaker 4: don't know. But as a former player, all I want

1418
01:13:01,439 --> 01:13:03,960
Speaker 4: to do is see this team win. And how can

1419
01:13:04,000 --> 01:13:06,800
Speaker 4: I make that happen by sitting up in the press

1420
01:13:06,840 --> 01:13:10,040
Speaker 4: box looking at uniforms when I can be helping this

1421
01:13:10,080 --> 01:13:13,240
Speaker 4: football team secondary do what they do. I missed a

1422
01:13:13,240 --> 01:13:15,479
Speaker 4: few tackles in my careers, not a whole lot of them,

1423
01:13:15,520 --> 01:13:16,200
Speaker 4: but I missed a few.

1424
01:13:16,640 --> 01:13:19,200
Speaker 2: But when it hurt.

1425
01:13:19,080 --> 01:13:22,519
Speaker 4: For someone who played the game to go up and say, hey, man,

1426
01:13:22,920 --> 01:13:23,800
Speaker 4: what are you looking at?

1427
01:13:23,880 --> 01:13:25,559
Speaker 2: What do you watch? When you back up in an

1428
01:13:25,560 --> 01:13:27,679
Speaker 2: extra set of eyes. Yeah, an extra set of eyes.

1429
01:13:27,720 --> 01:13:29,559
Speaker 4: I watched the secondary on the snap of the ball

1430
01:13:29,600 --> 01:13:32,759
Speaker 4: before pre snap. These guys are twenty five yards d

1431
01:13:33,400 --> 01:13:35,360
Speaker 4: and the ball ain't ben snap yet, and guess what

1432
01:13:35,600 --> 01:13:37,280
Speaker 4: tight ends to catch the ball across the middle.

1433
01:13:37,560 --> 01:13:40,840
Speaker 2: I would never let that allow that to happen. Troy

1434
01:13:40,880 --> 01:13:44,320
Speaker 2: Aikman's going down to what and advising the Dolphins and

1435
01:13:44,400 --> 01:13:45,960
Speaker 2: vicely Dolphins on a coach.

1436
01:13:46,680 --> 01:13:49,679
Speaker 4: Troy Aikman, who played for the Cowboys, who's on TV

1437
01:13:49,960 --> 01:13:54,200
Speaker 4: doing commentating, He's gonna be a head coach advisory for

1438
01:13:54,479 --> 01:13:56,920
Speaker 4: the Miami Dolphins. Are you kidding me?

1439
01:13:57,640 --> 01:14:02,360
Speaker 2: And Tom Brady is part owner of the Ross Vegas Raider.

1440
01:14:02,439 --> 01:14:05,320
Speaker 4: He's on TV and radio talking about games, and I'm going,

1441
01:14:06,200 --> 01:14:08,240
Speaker 4: are you kidding me? Why is it that everybody else

1442
01:14:08,280 --> 01:14:11,640
Speaker 4: wants to do that but we don't. How about inside information?

1443
01:14:11,920 --> 01:14:14,840
Speaker 4: Inside information? Man? I would love to be a scott.

1444
01:14:14,880 --> 01:14:16,560
Speaker 4: I would love to be a scout for the Bengals.

1445
01:14:17,040 --> 01:14:19,680
Speaker 4: Send me to tim Buck two or California. Let me

1446
01:14:19,720 --> 01:14:22,040
Speaker 4: watch some players, and I'm gonna come back with a

1447
01:14:22,040 --> 01:14:24,479
Speaker 4: football player. I guarantee I'll come back with somebody that

1448
01:14:24,520 --> 01:14:26,800
Speaker 4: can play from some college somewhere.

1449
01:14:26,520 --> 01:14:30,920
Speaker 2: David, you're going to the the blue turf at Hayes, Kansas.

1450
01:14:31,240 --> 01:14:33,360
Speaker 2: I'm on my way at Fort Hayes State. I'm on

1451
01:14:33,400 --> 01:14:35,800
Speaker 2: my way and I bumped into Duke Tobin when I

1452
01:14:35,840 --> 01:14:38,920
Speaker 2: covered the club. He says, yeah, I've been there. Yeah,

1453
01:14:39,479 --> 01:14:40,960
Speaker 2: leave no stone unturned.

1454
01:14:41,000 --> 01:14:43,880
Speaker 4: You've been there. But have you brought anybody from there

1455
01:14:43,920 --> 01:14:45,800
Speaker 4: to come for your team?

1456
01:14:45,920 --> 01:14:46,120
Speaker 2: You know?

1457
01:14:46,240 --> 01:14:50,800
Speaker 4: Not and not not Every uh uh National championship team

1458
01:14:51,439 --> 01:14:53,360
Speaker 4: has all the players that could play in the NFL.

1459
01:14:53,840 --> 01:14:57,600
Speaker 4: Is somebody out there and and and wherever that country is,

1460
01:14:57,640 --> 01:15:00,479
Speaker 4: that town is that can play from a small school.

1461
01:15:00,720 --> 01:15:02,679
Speaker 4: But you gotta go out there and see him. Look

1462
01:15:02,680 --> 01:15:05,080
Speaker 4: at the film develop and see what they got. Paul

1463
01:15:05,120 --> 01:15:09,360
Speaker 4: Brown saw film on me from Dick Lebow and bral

1464
01:15:09,400 --> 01:15:12,280
Speaker 4: Brown said, well, that's not a safety. That's a damn linebacker.

1465
01:15:12,320 --> 01:15:14,920
Speaker 4: He said, you dude, you know what Lebo told him.

1466
01:15:15,560 --> 01:15:17,840
Speaker 4: That's the best safety we probably will ever have on

1467
01:15:17,880 --> 01:15:21,200
Speaker 4: this football team. And when they drafted me, and Paul

1468
01:15:21,240 --> 01:15:23,400
Speaker 4: Brown looked at me face and face and he said,

1469
01:15:24,400 --> 01:15:28,280
Speaker 4: you're not a linebacker. I say, Coach, I'm a safety.

1470
01:15:29,000 --> 01:15:31,840
Speaker 4: I'm big as a linebacker. Just let me play. And

1471
01:15:31,880 --> 01:15:35,880
Speaker 4: you know what the rest is history? Absolutely it is.

1472
01:15:35,920 --> 01:15:36,759
Speaker 2: It's the rest of history.

1473
01:15:36,760 --> 01:15:39,000
Speaker 4: But you gotta know, you have to know your players.

1474
01:15:39,040 --> 01:15:41,080
Speaker 4: You got to know what's going on out there. Don't

1475
01:15:41,120 --> 01:15:43,400
Speaker 4: just look at TV and say, oh, that guy plays

1476
01:15:43,400 --> 01:15:46,120
Speaker 4: for Nebraska or he plays for Oklahoma. Oh that's the

1477
01:15:46,200 --> 01:15:47,920
Speaker 4: number one team in the country. Well what about the

1478
01:15:47,920 --> 01:15:50,800
Speaker 4: team that's forty fifth in the country. They got athletes.

1479
01:15:51,680 --> 01:15:54,040
Speaker 4: Look at the film. You want somebody to tackle them,

1480
01:15:54,200 --> 01:15:56,240
Speaker 4: a be around the football. I'm gonna go look at

1481
01:15:56,240 --> 01:15:58,760
Speaker 4: a guy who's around the football on every play. You

1482
01:15:58,800 --> 01:16:01,200
Speaker 4: know what, he's gonna become an athlete from me in

1483
01:16:01,240 --> 01:16:01,719
Speaker 4: the NFL.

1484
01:16:02,400 --> 01:16:05,240
Speaker 2: That's David Folts. That's the Rick and bow Man's exactly right.

1485
01:16:05,280 --> 01:16:07,400
Speaker 2: And this is Chick Ludwig. We're live at Wings and

1486
01:16:07,520 --> 01:16:11,080
Speaker 2: Rings in Liberty Township and you're listening to the Tri

1487
01:16:11,200 --> 01:16:15,480
Speaker 2: State Chevy Dealer's postgame sports Talk presented by RNL Carriers

1488
01:16:15,880 --> 01:16:18,759
Speaker 2: following the bengals twenty to eighteen loss to the Cleveland

1489
01:16:18,760 --> 01:16:23,679
Speaker 2: Browns on seven hundred WLW and Cincinnati ESPN fifteen thirty.

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01:16:26,200 --> 01:16:29,320
Speaker 4: Good to talk to you, man. What a great day, man,

1491
01:16:29,360 --> 01:16:30,160
Speaker 4: What a great day.

1492
01:16:30,160 --> 01:16:32,920
Speaker 2: Here in Ings and Me, you are listening to the

1493
01:16:33,000 --> 01:16:37,040
Speaker 2: Tri State Chevy Dealers. Postgame Sports Talk presented by RNL

1494
01:16:37,120 --> 01:16:42,640
Speaker 2: carriers Chick Ludwig alongside Faux Rock, David Fulcher, Fultures, Vultures,

1495
01:16:42,960 --> 01:16:45,760
Speaker 2: and the Chick Magnets are here tonight at Wings and

1496
01:16:45,840 --> 01:16:49,320
Speaker 2: Rings Liberty Township. Man, we're having a blast and hey,

1497
01:16:49,360 --> 01:16:53,360
Speaker 2: we just had and what an eighth grader? Yes, come

1498
01:16:53,439 --> 01:16:58,120
Speaker 2: up to the table and ask David Fulcher, you got.

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01:16:58,000 --> 01:16:59,719
Speaker 4: Any tips for me? Tips?

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01:17:00,000 --> 01:17:04,439
Speaker 2: Can you give the listeners the cliffs notes version of

1501
01:17:04,479 --> 01:17:06,640
Speaker 2: what you told that young man? Well? I told him.

1502
01:17:06,680 --> 01:17:08,160
Speaker 4: I said, first of all, make it bead up when

1503
01:17:08,160 --> 01:17:09,920
Speaker 4: you get out in the morning. Got to make it

1504
01:17:09,960 --> 01:17:11,360
Speaker 4: beat up. Take care of your house, take care of

1505
01:17:11,360 --> 01:17:14,439
Speaker 4: clean go to class because you can't play sports with

1506
01:17:14,479 --> 01:17:16,400
Speaker 4: if you don't have the grades. And then number two,

1507
01:17:16,479 --> 01:17:19,240
Speaker 4: man play it from the heart. Don't play it from

1508
01:17:19,280 --> 01:17:21,439
Speaker 4: the money, because you know what You're gonna get paid

1509
01:17:21,479 --> 01:17:23,280
Speaker 4: no matter what you do. But if you play the

1510
01:17:23,320 --> 01:17:26,320
Speaker 4: game because you love playing it, people are gonna appreciate

1511
01:17:26,360 --> 01:17:29,280
Speaker 4: what you do. And if you do that daily, you're

1512
01:17:29,280 --> 01:17:32,200
Speaker 4: gonna be successful. I didn't say winners, wins and losses.

1513
01:17:32,560 --> 01:17:34,800
Speaker 4: I said take care of your business. And if they

1514
01:17:34,840 --> 01:17:37,720
Speaker 4: take care of theirs. You're doing your job. And that's

1515
01:17:37,720 --> 01:17:42,760
Speaker 4: what I tried to tell him. That's beautiful, man, that's beautiful. David. Yeah,

1516
01:17:42,800 --> 01:17:43,840
Speaker 4: great stuff.

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01:17:44,400 --> 01:17:48,920
Speaker 2: And I loved what Dion Sanders said about the name,

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01:17:49,080 --> 01:17:53,759
Speaker 2: image and likeness and guys opting out of their bowl

1519
01:17:53,800 --> 01:17:57,200
Speaker 2: games jumping into the transfer portal. And he said, a

1520
01:17:57,200 --> 01:17:59,920
Speaker 2: lot of guys are doing really the wrong thing.

1521
01:18:00,080 --> 01:18:00,479
Speaker 4: Oh they are.

1522
01:18:00,479 --> 01:18:04,599
Speaker 2: That could jeopardize their college careers and their future careers.

1523
01:18:06,600 --> 01:18:11,000
Speaker 2: He said, I never chased the money. I chased greatness.

1524
01:18:11,280 --> 01:18:14,280
Speaker 2: And when greatness came, here come the money. Here come

1525
01:18:14,320 --> 01:18:15,519
Speaker 2: the money. And that's how it is.

1526
01:18:15,560 --> 01:18:18,600
Speaker 4: Man. You play this game because you love playing it.

1527
01:18:19,360 --> 01:18:22,559
Speaker 4: My grandson is saying goodbye, bye bye man. See you, buddy,

1528
01:18:22,560 --> 01:18:29,280
Speaker 4: Papaul big Man. If you're chasing greatness, okay. And Paul

1529
01:18:29,320 --> 01:18:31,720
Speaker 4: Brown and Mike Brown said this to me many many

1530
01:18:31,800 --> 01:18:33,599
Speaker 4: years ago when I came into the league. He says,

1531
01:18:35,080 --> 01:18:38,160
Speaker 4: you keep doing your job. We're gonna keep paying you.

1532
01:18:38,800 --> 01:18:39,000
Speaker 2: Now.

1533
01:18:39,040 --> 01:18:41,080
Speaker 4: You know, we got some pennies back in the day.

1534
01:18:41,080 --> 01:18:43,720
Speaker 4: They're making a whole lot of money today. When he

1535
01:18:43,800 --> 01:18:45,640
Speaker 4: told me that, I said, all you want me to

1536
01:18:45,680 --> 01:18:46,439
Speaker 4: do is hit people.

1537
01:18:47,840 --> 01:18:48,320
Speaker 2: I like that.

1538
01:18:48,720 --> 01:18:51,960
Speaker 4: Yes, So I'm gonna like my paycheck because I'm gonna

1539
01:18:52,000 --> 01:18:54,400
Speaker 4: go out there and hit you, and then Mike Brown's

1540
01:18:54,400 --> 01:18:57,519
Speaker 4: gonna pay me or Paul Brown's gonna pay me. And

1541
01:18:57,920 --> 01:19:01,479
Speaker 4: once again, I give all the the glory to obviously

1542
01:19:01,800 --> 01:19:04,880
Speaker 4: my Lord and Jesus Jesus Christ. But when they drafted

1543
01:19:04,920 --> 01:19:06,880
Speaker 4: me and they brought me in here, Dick la Boll said,

1544
01:19:07,479 --> 01:19:09,639
Speaker 4: I got a safety, but he don't look like one.

1545
01:19:10,439 --> 01:19:11,880
Speaker 4: But I got a guy that I'll tell you what

1546
01:19:12,120 --> 01:19:15,160
Speaker 4: his motor. He's gonna be around in football all the time.

1547
01:19:15,760 --> 01:19:17,200
Speaker 4: And that's what I wanted to give them, and I

1548
01:19:17,200 --> 01:19:19,120
Speaker 4: wanted to give the city of Cincinnati.

1549
01:19:19,920 --> 01:19:22,240
Speaker 2: Rock before we reached the bottom of the hour break

1550
01:19:23,640 --> 01:19:27,439
Speaker 2: the season ends. You walk in the locker room after

1551
01:19:27,479 --> 01:19:30,080
Speaker 2: the game, you're gonna look around and you're gonna say

1552
01:19:32,400 --> 01:19:35,800
Speaker 2: to all your teammates, you're gonna look around and some

1553
01:19:35,880 --> 01:19:37,640
Speaker 2: of you gentlemen are not going to be here.

1554
01:19:37,760 --> 01:19:38,400
Speaker 4: Then I be here.

1555
01:19:38,439 --> 01:19:41,320
Speaker 2: Yeah. So it's there's a lot of emotion that's got

1556
01:19:41,320 --> 01:19:44,479
Speaker 2: to be going through you the last game of the season.

1557
01:19:44,479 --> 01:19:47,200
Speaker 4: When you walk in that locker room, you know this

1558
01:19:47,240 --> 01:19:51,640
Speaker 4: is this game was not just a game against the

1559
01:19:51,680 --> 01:19:55,080
Speaker 4: Browns and against the Bengals. On the NFL. This was

1560
01:19:55,240 --> 01:20:00,719
Speaker 4: an audition for these guys, yes, for next year, because

1561
01:20:00,720 --> 01:20:03,479
Speaker 4: a lot of these guys won't be back. These guys

1562
01:20:03,520 --> 01:20:06,680
Speaker 4: are going to go other places. They need to have

1563
01:20:06,720 --> 01:20:09,320
Speaker 4: some film on them so people can see them. So

1564
01:20:10,360 --> 01:20:12,680
Speaker 4: and I heard Zach Taylor when they were in the

1565
01:20:12,680 --> 01:20:14,880
Speaker 4: locker room talking to him, and I thought I heard

1566
01:20:14,920 --> 01:20:20,559
Speaker 4: a little bit of tearness in his voice because he

1567
01:20:20,640 --> 01:20:23,559
Speaker 4: is so close to these guys for the last many

1568
01:20:23,600 --> 01:20:26,439
Speaker 4: years he's been here. That some of them won't be here,

1569
01:20:27,160 --> 01:20:29,479
Speaker 4: some of the coaches may not be here, because this

1570
01:20:29,520 --> 01:20:32,559
Speaker 4: is what happens in football. In sports, you lose players,

1571
01:20:32,640 --> 01:20:36,439
Speaker 4: you gain players. And when you go in there and

1572
01:20:36,479 --> 01:20:39,120
Speaker 4: you look at him, you know, like I would give

1573
01:20:39,120 --> 01:20:42,160
Speaker 4: an example of being on the defense and I'm playing

1574
01:20:42,200 --> 01:20:44,920
Speaker 4: on this defensive backfield and some of the guys who

1575
01:20:44,960 --> 01:20:48,479
Speaker 4: have struggled Gino Stone a lot of mistackles. You know,

1576
01:20:48,920 --> 01:20:51,000
Speaker 4: a lot of guys struggle that they may not be here.

1577
01:20:52,200 --> 01:20:54,559
Speaker 4: You could be my opponent next year, or you could

1578
01:20:54,600 --> 01:20:58,240
Speaker 4: be out of the NFL. So for all the love

1579
01:20:58,280 --> 01:21:00,320
Speaker 4: that I have for my brothers, now you gonna be

1580
01:21:00,360 --> 01:21:03,439
Speaker 4: on another team or in another city. Still love you, man.

1581
01:21:03,640 --> 01:21:05,880
Speaker 4: When we play for another team, I can't love you

1582
01:21:06,720 --> 01:21:08,760
Speaker 4: like I want to. I'm not gonna try to hurt you,

1583
01:21:09,080 --> 01:21:11,920
Speaker 4: but I'm trying to beat you. So this is probably

1584
01:21:11,920 --> 01:21:15,920
Speaker 4: the hardest thing to go in, especially when this is

1585
01:21:15,920 --> 01:21:20,320
Speaker 4: a playoff caliber type of football team atmosphere, and for

1586
01:21:20,400 --> 01:21:22,880
Speaker 4: three years in a row we have not gotten there.

1587
01:21:23,080 --> 01:21:23,679
Speaker 2: And that's hard.

1588
01:21:23,760 --> 01:21:27,320
Speaker 4: Chick. Oh, it's gotta be absolutely because you're not You're

1589
01:21:27,360 --> 01:21:30,439
Speaker 4: not gonna get that brotherly love anymore because they're gone.

1590
01:21:30,600 --> 01:21:32,960
Speaker 4: When them guys clean today, when they walked out of there,

1591
01:21:33,760 --> 01:21:36,800
Speaker 4: most of them clean out their lockers today, or they're

1592
01:21:36,800 --> 01:21:40,240
Speaker 4: gonna come on Monday and clean out their lockers because

1593
01:21:40,680 --> 01:21:45,799
Speaker 4: that locker room is gonna be closed down by tomorrow.

1594
01:21:46,320 --> 01:21:48,599
Speaker 4: So some of them guys already have their flights ready

1595
01:21:48,640 --> 01:21:50,639
Speaker 4: to go, and some of them may not be back.

1596
01:21:51,640 --> 01:21:55,040
Speaker 4: Some of them might even had their cars running. Yeah,

1597
01:21:55,240 --> 01:21:57,519
Speaker 4: cars probably are pushing the button get the car warmed

1598
01:21:57,560 --> 01:22:01,080
Speaker 4: up before they got out there. Man, exactly, home and

1599
01:22:01,200 --> 01:22:05,479
Speaker 4: home could be the west coast, the East coast, somewhere

1600
01:22:05,520 --> 01:22:06,680
Speaker 4: that you got to drive and go.

1601
01:22:06,680 --> 01:22:09,360
Speaker 2: Home, somewhere where the sun might be shin at I'm

1602
01:22:09,400 --> 01:22:12,519
Speaker 2: telling you some might be shigning little warmer. The hours

1603
01:22:12,520 --> 01:22:14,200
Speaker 2: have changed. You never know.

1604
01:22:14,680 --> 01:22:16,960
Speaker 4: It's six o'clock here, but it might be three o'clock

1605
01:22:17,240 --> 01:22:18,160
Speaker 4: where they come from.

1606
01:22:18,479 --> 01:22:19,000
Speaker 2: You never know.

1607
01:22:19,120 --> 01:22:23,240
Speaker 4: Man, Hey, hey, thanks so much for cost of coming out. Yes, yes,

1608
01:22:23,320 --> 01:22:24,320
Speaker 4: good to see it, man.

1609
01:22:24,520 --> 01:22:29,200
Speaker 2: And now, gosh, preparation really starts for next year.

1610
01:22:29,479 --> 01:22:31,599
Speaker 4: This is it, man, This is right now. What you're

1611
01:22:31,640 --> 01:22:34,880
Speaker 4: doing is you're getting rid of all this stuff. Football

1612
01:22:34,960 --> 01:22:36,559
Speaker 4: is over. You might want to. I don't even know

1613
01:22:36,600 --> 01:22:38,479
Speaker 4: if the players are gonna look at the game film

1614
01:22:38,840 --> 01:22:40,960
Speaker 4: from the day because it doesn't matter because when you

1615
01:22:41,000 --> 01:22:42,880
Speaker 4: look at the game field today, you're prepared and preparing

1616
01:22:42,920 --> 01:22:45,880
Speaker 4: for next week. So really it's you watch the game

1617
01:22:45,880 --> 01:22:48,560
Speaker 4: on your own. But right now, these coaches have to

1618
01:22:48,560 --> 01:22:52,320
Speaker 4: get themselves ready for the draft and any free agency

1619
01:22:52,360 --> 01:22:53,960
Speaker 4: that are out there, and the guys they want to

1620
01:22:53,960 --> 01:22:57,040
Speaker 4: come back. You know, Zach Taylor's gonna get with every

1621
01:22:57,080 --> 01:22:59,439
Speaker 4: position coach and they're gonna talk about all their players,

1622
01:22:59,840 --> 01:23:02,360
Speaker 4: and those players are hey, is he coming back? Do

1623
01:23:02,439 --> 01:23:04,080
Speaker 4: we keep him? Do we want him? What are we

1624
01:23:04,080 --> 01:23:07,280
Speaker 4: gonna do? And this is how you make up the draft,

1625
01:23:07,760 --> 01:23:11,000
Speaker 4: because you know you're gonna lose three dbs or two

1626
01:23:11,080 --> 01:23:12,000
Speaker 4: d linemen.

1627
01:23:11,880 --> 01:23:14,439
Speaker 2: At least a third, at least a third, if not

1628
01:23:14,600 --> 01:23:15,800
Speaker 2: half the roster.

1629
01:23:15,880 --> 01:23:17,760
Speaker 4: Taff of a roster could come out. It's the same

1630
01:23:17,760 --> 01:23:19,360
Speaker 4: way when they come in and they do the roster,

1631
01:23:19,600 --> 01:23:22,519
Speaker 4: they come out with eighty five, eighty five, ninety guys.

1632
01:23:23,160 --> 01:23:25,320
Speaker 4: They gotta get it down in fifty five, well sixty

1633
01:23:25,320 --> 01:23:27,920
Speaker 4: three and before you know it done thirty guys. Man,

1634
01:23:28,240 --> 01:23:32,720
Speaker 4: once you call you a friend, they're gone. They're gone,

1635
01:23:32,760 --> 01:23:35,320
Speaker 4: and you may see him again on another team, or

1636
01:23:35,360 --> 01:23:38,439
Speaker 4: they may be done with football. Period. It's a tough one.

1637
01:23:38,439 --> 01:23:41,160
Speaker 4: Man been there and done that. Man, been at that

1638
01:23:41,200 --> 01:23:44,400
Speaker 4: corner many times. Great stuff rock, Yeah, I appreciate it.

1639
01:23:45,400 --> 01:23:48,240
Speaker 4: You're listening to the Tri State Chevy Dealers post game

1640
01:23:48,280 --> 01:23:52,240
Speaker 4: sports Talk presented by Arnell Carriers. A little post mortem

1641
01:23:52,680 --> 01:23:53,800
Speaker 4: on the bengals.

1642
01:23:53,400 --> 01:23:56,880
Speaker 2: Twenty to eighteen loss to the Cleveland Browns today and

1643
01:23:57,200 --> 01:23:59,880
Speaker 2: a six and eleven season. When Joe Burrow went down,

1644
01:24:00,000 --> 01:24:02,759
Speaker 2: I said, oh my gosh, five and twelve is coming,

1645
01:24:03,040 --> 01:24:05,519
Speaker 2: and they went six and eleven. And the silver lining

1646
01:24:05,520 --> 01:24:07,200
Speaker 2: that we talked about at the top of the show.

1647
01:24:07,800 --> 01:24:11,080
Speaker 2: Some fans will appreciate it that the Bengals were drafting

1648
01:24:11,400 --> 01:24:14,200
Speaker 2: ninth instead of dropping to like eleven or twelve.

1649
01:24:14,400 --> 01:24:16,960
Speaker 4: You know, you know when you have a good season, man,

1650
01:24:17,000 --> 01:24:20,160
Speaker 4: when you're down in that twenty third, twenty fifth, twenty

1651
01:24:20,200 --> 01:24:22,840
Speaker 4: seventh pick in the draft because you're doing so well.

1652
01:24:22,880 --> 01:24:26,760
Speaker 4: But when you're picking early, this pick has to be

1653
01:24:27,760 --> 01:24:31,400
Speaker 4: a grand slam, not a base hit. This pick that

1654
01:24:31,439 --> 01:24:33,680
Speaker 4: the Bengals got to pick at number nine has to

1655
01:24:33,720 --> 01:24:36,519
Speaker 4: be a grand slam, somebody that could come in here

1656
01:24:37,280 --> 01:24:41,240
Speaker 4: and make a difference immediately. And then you just keep

1657
01:24:41,240 --> 01:24:44,080
Speaker 4: doing the same thing and each each pick, the second pick,

1658
01:24:44,240 --> 01:24:46,120
Speaker 4: the third pick, even when you go out and get

1659
01:24:46,120 --> 01:24:48,760
Speaker 4: free agents, you gotta get free agents men that are

1660
01:24:48,800 --> 01:24:52,759
Speaker 4: gonna be an impact player that makes a difference now,

1661
01:24:53,200 --> 01:24:55,559
Speaker 4: not three years from now. The rookies coming out of

1662
01:24:55,600 --> 01:24:59,679
Speaker 4: high college. They're gonna be playing behind veterans. Those guys

1663
01:25:00,400 --> 01:25:03,240
Speaker 4: we can rely on two and three and four years

1664
01:25:03,240 --> 01:25:05,960
Speaker 4: from now. But we have got to get a bona

1665
01:25:06,040 --> 01:25:08,240
Speaker 4: fide number one pick that is going to make an

1666
01:25:08,280 --> 01:25:11,360
Speaker 4: impact to this team right now on the defensive side

1667
01:25:11,400 --> 01:25:11,920
Speaker 4: of the ball.

1668
01:25:12,439 --> 01:25:15,200
Speaker 2: And you are listening to the tri Stage Chevy Dealers

1669
01:25:15,479 --> 01:25:19,479
Speaker 2: postgame sports Talk presented by RNL Carriers. He's David Folcher,

1670
01:25:19,720 --> 01:25:22,120
Speaker 2: this is Chick Ludwig. We're live at Wings and Rings

1671
01:25:22,120 --> 01:25:25,400
Speaker 2: and Liberty Township until eight thirty tonight the number to

1672
01:25:25,479 --> 01:25:28,880
Speaker 2: dial five one, three, seven, four, nine, seven thousand, one,

1673
01:25:28,960 --> 01:25:32,880
Speaker 2: eight hundred, the Big one seven hundred, WLW and Cincinnati's

1674
01:25:33,120 --> 01:25:37,599
Speaker 2: ESPN fifteen thirty listening to the tri Stage Chevy Dealers

1675
01:25:37,640 --> 01:25:41,920
Speaker 2: postgame Sports Talk presented by RNL Carriers. We're live at

1676
01:25:42,000 --> 01:25:45,559
Speaker 2: Wings and Rings, Liberty Township. He's David Fulcher, this is

1677
01:25:45,640 --> 01:25:50,000
Speaker 2: Chick Ludwig. We're continuing to discuss the bengals twenty to

1678
01:25:50,040 --> 01:25:53,479
Speaker 2: eighteen loss to the Cleveland Browns and the Bengals season

1679
01:25:54,120 --> 01:25:57,519
Speaker 2: and a reminder of fans out there. The postgame sports

1680
01:25:57,520 --> 01:25:59,920
Speaker 2: talk has brought to you in part by a door

1681
01:26:00,160 --> 01:26:04,400
Speaker 2: window company. They sell the best and service the rest.

1682
01:26:05,000 --> 01:26:08,680
Speaker 2: Now rock lets a review the Guilty Windows Window of

1683
01:26:08,760 --> 01:26:12,760
Speaker 2: Opportunity brought to you by Guilty Windows. The key to

1684
01:26:12,880 --> 01:26:17,479
Speaker 2: quality windows is trusting the pros Gilkey Windows. The Bengals

1685
01:26:17,479 --> 01:26:21,800
Speaker 2: are up six to nothing after missing the after the

1686
01:26:21,800 --> 01:26:24,040
Speaker 2: first touchdown and the missister point.

1687
01:26:24,120 --> 01:26:25,960
Speaker 4: Ye okay, now they're on the.

1688
01:26:25,960 --> 01:26:28,240
Speaker 2: Doorstep of scoring again.

1689
01:26:29,160 --> 01:26:29,599
Speaker 4: All right.

1690
01:26:29,880 --> 01:26:33,840
Speaker 2: They drive to the doorstep really of the Browns end zone.

1691
01:26:34,200 --> 01:26:35,679
Speaker 4: I think it was on a four yard line too.

1692
01:26:36,000 --> 01:26:42,200
Speaker 4: And for yard line Joe Burrow is aiming for was

1693
01:26:42,240 --> 01:26:44,719
Speaker 4: it t Higgins? T Higgins? Yeah? In the end zone?

1694
01:26:45,200 --> 01:26:52,560
Speaker 2: The ball gets deflected by is it Shelby Harris? And

1695
01:26:52,760 --> 01:26:56,479
Speaker 2: then Devin Bush takes it to the house, takes it

1696
01:26:56,760 --> 01:27:01,200
Speaker 2: ninety seven yards to the house. And it's just like that.

1697
01:27:01,280 --> 01:27:04,080
Speaker 4: It's seven to six, and think about it going and

1698
01:27:04,120 --> 01:27:07,920
Speaker 4: score a touchdown thirteen. Nothing looks a little bit better.

1699
01:27:08,000 --> 01:27:10,720
Speaker 4: Now Cleveland's really reeling. All of a sudden, we give

1700
01:27:10,800 --> 01:27:11,200
Speaker 4: him life.

1701
01:27:13,040 --> 01:27:15,480
Speaker 2: We're ready to run him out of the gym. Yeah,

1702
01:27:15,520 --> 01:27:21,559
Speaker 2: and everything changes, it does it And with another minute

1703
01:27:21,640 --> 01:27:25,040
Speaker 2: fifty seconds to go, it happens again. It happens again

1704
01:27:26,040 --> 01:27:30,799
Speaker 2: with Noahfense fumbling yep, and then running the ball into

1705
01:27:30,840 --> 01:27:31,439
Speaker 2: the end zone.

1706
01:27:31,479 --> 01:27:33,640
Speaker 4: You know, it's one thing that I could say about

1707
01:27:34,120 --> 01:27:36,599
Speaker 4: people who fumble. You know, you hit if you get

1708
01:27:36,600 --> 01:27:39,400
Speaker 4: a good shot on the guy and ball pops out.

1709
01:27:39,479 --> 01:27:42,679
Speaker 4: It happens. But he caught the football and now he's

1710
01:27:42,760 --> 01:27:45,439
Speaker 4: running for six to seven yards and what did they

1711
01:27:45,439 --> 01:27:49,400
Speaker 4: tell you? And Pop Warner football, Tuck it away, Tuck

1712
01:27:49,439 --> 01:27:52,320
Speaker 4: it away, squeeze it as tight as you can and

1713
01:27:52,320 --> 01:27:54,800
Speaker 4: don't let nobody take it out. And that's the second

1714
01:27:54,880 --> 01:27:57,760
Speaker 4: time he's done it. And both times that's what they

1715
01:27:57,800 --> 01:28:00,640
Speaker 4: were talking about. The both times that he fumbled, it

1716
01:28:00,680 --> 01:28:04,320
Speaker 4: was a touchdown. After the fumble in Minnesota, the guy

1717
01:28:04,360 --> 01:28:06,439
Speaker 4: picked it up, rand it back for a testdown, and

1718
01:28:06,479 --> 01:28:08,639
Speaker 4: then in this game he fled run back for a testdown.

1719
01:28:09,680 --> 01:28:11,599
Speaker 4: So the Browns just keep having it now.

1720
01:28:11,680 --> 01:28:14,000
Speaker 2: The brown scored with fifty six seconds to go in

1721
01:28:14,040 --> 01:28:18,880
Speaker 2: the first quarter on Devin Bush's ninety seven yard run

1722
01:28:19,000 --> 01:28:23,439
Speaker 2: back on the pick six, and then at the fourteen

1723
01:28:23,880 --> 01:28:27,040
Speaker 2: six mark of the second quarter, the Noah Fense fumble

1724
01:28:27,200 --> 01:28:32,080
Speaker 2: caused by Jerome Baker, the touchdown maker linebacker, and then

1725
01:28:32,160 --> 01:28:35,280
Speaker 2: Sam Webb scooped it up, it took it to the

1726
01:28:35,320 --> 01:28:38,519
Speaker 2: house forty seven yards and just like that, it's fourteen

1727
01:28:38,560 --> 01:28:41,080
Speaker 2: to six and the Bengals are fighting from behind.

1728
01:28:41,200 --> 01:28:43,639
Speaker 4: And when that's when we said this was a strange game.

1729
01:28:44,160 --> 01:28:50,640
Speaker 4: Very I looked at the emotion on the sideline, I

1730
01:28:50,680 --> 01:28:54,160
Speaker 4: heard the emotion up in the press box. It was

1731
01:28:54,280 --> 01:28:58,840
Speaker 4: very quiet, like no one was prepared or ready to

1732
01:28:58,840 --> 01:29:02,280
Speaker 4: play football than had really bad happen, which they did.

1733
01:29:02,320 --> 01:29:07,080
Speaker 4: Because two touchdowns gives the Browns fourteen points in their

1734
01:29:07,080 --> 01:29:11,559
Speaker 4: offense don't even have fourteen yards of offense and I'm thinking,

1735
01:29:12,240 --> 01:29:14,679
Speaker 4: this is a very weird game. When are we gonna

1736
01:29:14,680 --> 01:29:16,559
Speaker 4: get out of this funk? When are we gonna get

1737
01:29:16,560 --> 01:29:18,479
Speaker 4: out of this cloud? And we never got out of

1738
01:29:18,520 --> 01:29:22,680
Speaker 4: it until the last touchdown that we scored to put

1739
01:29:22,760 --> 01:29:25,160
Speaker 4: us up ahead, and then we were still in the

1740
01:29:25,160 --> 01:29:29,400
Speaker 4: cloud from our team, but we never really developed any

1741
01:29:29,560 --> 01:29:32,760
Speaker 4: kind of momentum in this football game at all.

1742
01:29:33,560 --> 01:29:38,599
Speaker 2: So early on the quick turnaround there, the Bengals are

1743
01:29:38,600 --> 01:29:41,240
Speaker 2: getting ready to go in and maybe go up thirteen

1744
01:29:41,720 --> 01:29:46,240
Speaker 2: to nothing. Yeah, that was the Guilty Windows window of

1745
01:29:46,280 --> 01:29:49,080
Speaker 2: opportunity once again brought to you by Guilty Windows. The

1746
01:29:49,160 --> 01:29:52,880
Speaker 2: key to quality windows is trusting the pros Kilkey Windows.

1747
01:29:53,080 --> 01:29:56,360
Speaker 2: And there was another one, that window of opportunity when

1748
01:29:56,400 --> 01:29:59,360
Speaker 2: that Bengals did take the lead and weren't able to

1749
01:29:59,479 --> 01:30:04,639
Speaker 2: stop the Browns on that final ten play forty yard

1750
01:30:04,720 --> 01:30:07,760
Speaker 2: drive that set up Andre Schmidt with the forty nine

1751
01:30:07,800 --> 01:30:08,439
Speaker 2: yard field goal.

1752
01:30:08,479 --> 01:30:12,040
Speaker 4: You know, we talked about, you know, cognunity, the cognunity,

1753
01:30:12,040 --> 01:30:17,639
Speaker 4: you know, the closeness of this team. When we scored

1754
01:30:17,680 --> 01:30:24,679
Speaker 4: that touchdown to go ahead. It would be nice because

1755
01:30:24,680 --> 01:30:27,639
Speaker 4: I've seen this happen before, especially on when I played

1756
01:30:27,680 --> 01:30:31,240
Speaker 4: on the teams the offense scored a touchdown Boomers. Sisin

1757
01:30:31,360 --> 01:30:34,680
Speaker 4: came in the defensive huddle before we ran out and

1758
01:30:34,760 --> 01:30:40,160
Speaker 4: gave us a little pep talk. Yes, like, okay, I

1759
01:30:40,280 --> 01:30:42,200
Speaker 4: put the ball in your hand down to win the game,

1760
01:30:43,000 --> 01:30:47,480
Speaker 4: don't let me down. Now, how many of those conversations

1761
01:30:47,560 --> 01:30:50,000
Speaker 4: do they have on this team. I'm not saying Joe

1762
01:30:50,040 --> 01:30:52,120
Speaker 4: Burrow go to the defensive huddle and say, hey, listen,

1763
01:30:52,560 --> 01:30:54,600
Speaker 4: it's time to clamp it up, shut them up, and

1764
01:30:54,600 --> 01:31:02,040
Speaker 4: get it done. But there's got to be somebody defensively, offensively,

1765
01:31:02,320 --> 01:31:07,080
Speaker 4: special teams coach that listen, it's in your hand. Now,

1766
01:31:07,160 --> 01:31:09,960
Speaker 4: take care of your business. Let's get off the field,

1767
01:31:10,479 --> 01:31:12,400
Speaker 4: Let's go home and have a good time. Let's go

1768
01:31:12,439 --> 01:31:14,240
Speaker 4: to the locker room and celebrate. But you got to

1769
01:31:14,240 --> 01:31:17,479
Speaker 4: take care of business. Does that happen? Someone text me

1770
01:31:17,479 --> 01:31:22,240
Speaker 4: and said, whatever happened to the no huddle offense? Like

1771
01:31:22,360 --> 01:31:25,840
Speaker 4: sense of urgency on offense? Yeah, we don't really have

1772
01:31:25,920 --> 01:31:28,240
Speaker 4: that sense of urgency on offense. I'm not saying that

1773
01:31:28,280 --> 01:31:32,040
Speaker 4: the offensive guys don't do it. But you see the

1774
01:31:32,080 --> 01:31:34,200
Speaker 4: Browns when they came out the second half. The Browns

1775
01:31:34,200 --> 01:31:37,519
Speaker 4: started the second half with running the football. Yes, no

1776
01:31:37,640 --> 01:31:41,360
Speaker 4: huddle trying to put the Bengals on the heels and

1777
01:31:41,439 --> 01:31:43,479
Speaker 4: trying to get them tired and wear them out. And

1778
01:31:43,520 --> 01:31:45,519
Speaker 4: what happened in that third court that first drive, the

1779
01:31:45,520 --> 01:31:48,599
Speaker 4: Browns went down the field. I don't think they scored,

1780
01:31:48,880 --> 01:31:50,439
Speaker 4: but they went down the field. They moved the ball

1781
01:31:50,479 --> 01:31:52,400
Speaker 4: a little bit. But you know what he was doing

1782
01:31:52,439 --> 01:31:55,160
Speaker 4: to the Bengals. It had the Bengals changing defensive players

1783
01:31:55,320 --> 01:31:58,120
Speaker 4: because they were getting tired. And when you do that, man,

1784
01:31:58,439 --> 01:32:01,680
Speaker 4: you have a sense of urgent. See someone text me

1785
01:32:01,680 --> 01:32:05,320
Speaker 4: and said, the difference between today's game and any other

1786
01:32:05,360 --> 01:32:08,759
Speaker 4: game was was there a sense of urgency on offense

1787
01:32:09,400 --> 01:32:10,960
Speaker 4: to attack the Cleveland Browns.

1788
01:32:11,880 --> 01:32:15,200
Speaker 2: And the Browns did score on that first drive that chewed.

1789
01:32:15,000 --> 01:32:15,880
Speaker 4: Up seven minutes.

1790
01:32:15,920 --> 01:32:19,080
Speaker 2: Think about it, twelve plays, fifty six yards and Schmidt

1791
01:32:19,360 --> 01:32:21,920
Speaker 2: kicked a twenty seven yard field goal to make it

1792
01:32:22,000 --> 01:32:23,160
Speaker 2: seventeen to twelve.

1793
01:32:23,160 --> 01:32:26,479
Speaker 4: But think about that, though that drive took seven minutes long,

1794
01:32:26,520 --> 01:32:28,559
Speaker 4: and of that drive, if it was how many plays

1795
01:32:28,600 --> 01:32:31,320
Speaker 4: twelve places, twelve plays, I tell you seven or eight

1796
01:32:31,360 --> 01:32:33,920
Speaker 4: of those plays were come to the line of scrimmage

1797
01:32:33,960 --> 01:32:36,320
Speaker 4: and let's go. And then in our case, when the Bengals,

1798
01:32:36,320 --> 01:32:38,639
Speaker 4: we call it, we called her set alert, set alert.

1799
01:32:39,000 --> 01:32:40,640
Speaker 4: Boomer will get up there, real quick, set alert, and

1800
01:32:40,640 --> 01:32:43,040
Speaker 4: the guys get ready to go, and the defense starts

1801
01:32:43,040 --> 01:32:45,639
Speaker 4: falling on the ground because he's trying to slow us down.

1802
01:32:46,280 --> 01:32:48,280
Speaker 4: You know what, That's what the Browns did at that

1803
01:32:48,360 --> 01:32:53,040
Speaker 4: first drive. Where's the sense of urgency of attacking the

1804
01:32:53,080 --> 01:32:55,880
Speaker 4: Cleveland Browns instead of letting them sit back there and

1805
01:32:55,960 --> 01:32:56,639
Speaker 4: make calls.

1806
01:32:57,880 --> 01:33:00,320
Speaker 2: And when you mentioned Boomer, it brings back a bad

1807
01:33:00,360 --> 01:33:03,080
Speaker 2: memory of nineteen ninety seven, my first full year on

1808
01:33:03,120 --> 01:33:04,800
Speaker 2: the beat in Philadelphia.

1809
01:33:04,960 --> 01:33:05,160
Speaker 3: Yeh.

1810
01:33:05,360 --> 01:33:07,639
Speaker 2: Boomer led the team to a four and one finish

1811
01:33:07,720 --> 01:33:12,040
Speaker 2: that year, and the one loss in November was in

1812
01:33:12,080 --> 01:33:16,960
Speaker 2: Philly after Brian Milne scored a touchdown and Bobby hoyingg

1813
01:33:17,600 --> 01:33:22,559
Speaker 2: hit Irving Fryar marched them down and Chris Boniol hit

1814
01:33:22,640 --> 01:33:25,679
Speaker 2: it at thirty one yard field goal at the gun,

1815
01:33:26,360 --> 01:33:29,479
Speaker 2: and Boomer threw his helmet in the locker room at

1816
01:33:29,479 --> 01:33:32,400
Speaker 2: the defense and said, you guys don't deserve your paychecks.

1817
01:33:32,479 --> 01:33:35,680
Speaker 4: I'm telling you, man, they that. How many people are

1818
01:33:35,680 --> 01:33:38,719
Speaker 4: saying that today? How many players are saying that today?

1819
01:33:38,760 --> 01:33:40,720
Speaker 4: I don't know. I'm not in the locker room. I'm

1820
01:33:40,760 --> 01:33:43,439
Speaker 4: not saying trying to start a feud or whatnot. But

1821
01:33:44,000 --> 01:33:46,840
Speaker 4: you know, as if I was a defensive guy and

1822
01:33:46,880 --> 01:33:50,040
Speaker 4: my offensive team was struggling on scoring, I'm gonna go

1823
01:33:50,120 --> 01:33:52,960
Speaker 4: say something to him, not negative. Come on, man, we

1824
01:33:53,000 --> 01:33:56,160
Speaker 4: worked hard this week. We worked hard on Wednesday beating

1825
01:33:56,200 --> 01:33:58,240
Speaker 4: each other up. Let's go out there and get this

1826
01:33:58,320 --> 01:34:00,920
Speaker 4: thing done. Let's bring this thing home them sixty eight

1827
01:34:00,920 --> 01:34:03,679
Speaker 4: thousand people that are screaming right now. Who's who pays

1828
01:34:03,760 --> 01:34:06,080
Speaker 4: part of our salary? They deserve better than what we're

1829
01:34:06,080 --> 01:34:08,880
Speaker 4: giving them. They know what it all change. Love it.

1830
01:34:08,960 --> 01:34:10,799
Speaker 2: Let's go out to the phones. Do we have Donald

1831
01:34:10,880 --> 01:34:12,960
Speaker 2: in Nashville still on the line.

1832
01:34:13,080 --> 01:34:16,920
Speaker 10: Hey Donald, Hey guys, how you doing good?

1833
01:34:17,000 --> 01:34:17,200
Speaker 3: Man?

1834
01:34:17,240 --> 01:34:19,960
Speaker 10: Good? I always love hearing you two guys talk.

1835
01:34:20,040 --> 01:34:20,160
Speaker 5: Man.

1836
01:34:20,240 --> 01:34:24,120
Speaker 20: Sure's it's a good good night on a bad day,

1837
01:34:24,160 --> 01:34:27,840
Speaker 20: I can tell you that. But uh, but uh, you

1838
01:34:27,920 --> 01:34:30,280
Speaker 20: guys are saying all the things I was calling about.

1839
01:34:31,160 --> 01:34:33,320
Speaker 20: One of the thing I was calling about is who's

1840
01:34:33,360 --> 01:34:36,160
Speaker 20: holding these people accountable for these in the states they

1841
01:34:36,200 --> 01:34:39,240
Speaker 20: continue to make I mean, even Joe Joe Burrow, it

1842
01:34:39,400 --> 01:34:41,240
Speaker 20: is like how many reachs in the road and if he

1843
01:34:41,360 --> 01:34:44,559
Speaker 20: throwing the pick sick or intercession that cost us the game?

1844
01:34:45,040 --> 01:34:47,000
Speaker 10: And no one's no one's hold him accountable. I want

1845
01:34:47,000 --> 01:34:48,560
Speaker 10: to hear them about the office in the line or

1846
01:34:49,080 --> 01:34:49,960
Speaker 10: the deeples to do this.

1847
01:34:50,600 --> 01:34:51,760
Speaker 3: The quarterback is is.

1848
01:34:51,760 --> 01:34:55,360
Speaker 10: Just throwing with state. You gotta stop that. I'm sorry,

1849
01:34:55,360 --> 01:34:57,439
Speaker 10: We're paying them too much money for us to be

1850
01:34:57,479 --> 01:34:58,120
Speaker 10: losing games.

1851
01:34:58,160 --> 01:35:02,200
Speaker 2: On pick six, I'm saying, seventh, seventh career pick six.

1852
01:35:02,400 --> 01:35:04,680
Speaker 4: You're right, You're right, And it stopped a.

1853
01:35:04,720 --> 01:35:10,040
Speaker 2: Streak of twelve consecutive possessions inside the red zone where

1854
01:35:10,040 --> 01:35:13,080
Speaker 2: the Bengals scored touchdowns.

1855
01:35:12,479 --> 01:35:15,560
Speaker 4: That was tough. They had twelve possessions.

1856
01:35:15,680 --> 01:35:18,720
Speaker 10: Yeah, it's fat. That's the tight end. I mean, you

1857
01:35:18,760 --> 01:35:22,840
Speaker 10: said it's so perfectly man, you can learn this warning. Yeah,

1858
01:35:23,760 --> 01:35:26,680
Speaker 10: this guy, it's almost I'm scared to catch the ball

1859
01:35:26,680 --> 01:35:28,000
Speaker 10: because I feel like hes gonna give it right back

1860
01:35:28,040 --> 01:35:28,519
Speaker 10: to you.

1861
01:35:28,520 --> 01:35:30,720
Speaker 4: You put they tell us when we were kids and

1862
01:35:30,840 --> 01:35:34,400
Speaker 4: Pop Warner, you put two hands on the ball and

1863
01:35:34,439 --> 01:35:36,880
Speaker 4: you cover that ball. You grabbed that ball like you're

1864
01:35:36,880 --> 01:35:39,680
Speaker 4: holding on to dear life. And they should never take

1865
01:35:39,720 --> 01:35:41,280
Speaker 4: that ball away from it if you've got two hands

1866
01:35:41,280 --> 01:35:44,840
Speaker 4: on it. And I don't know, I'm telling you, man,

1867
01:35:44,880 --> 01:35:45,960
Speaker 4: he he.

1868
01:35:46,439 --> 01:35:50,200
Speaker 10: Was my last comment. I mean to catch a big, big,

1869
01:35:50,240 --> 01:35:53,599
Speaker 10: full I'm sorry, sir, my last time. My last comment

1870
01:35:53,760 --> 01:35:56,880
Speaker 10: is the person who should be holding by account who's

1871
01:35:56,880 --> 01:36:02,760
Speaker 10: getting paid the most on the team, quarterback. Okay, So

1872
01:36:02,960 --> 01:36:05,120
Speaker 10: the reason why Boomer did that because you know, he

1873
01:36:05,200 --> 01:36:06,400
Speaker 10: was getting paid the most of the team.

1874
01:36:06,600 --> 01:36:08,479
Speaker 4: He was man, he was a million dollar player on

1875
01:36:08,520 --> 01:36:10,200
Speaker 4: the team that only had one guy making a million

1876
01:36:10,200 --> 01:36:12,840
Speaker 4: bucks and that was Boomer Sizing. And he opened up

1877
01:36:12,880 --> 01:36:16,080
Speaker 4: his mouth and we had a we had a a

1878
01:36:16,240 --> 01:36:21,840
Speaker 4: non coaching meeting conversation amongst the team, and when they

1879
01:36:21,840 --> 01:36:24,880
Speaker 4: started talking, the first thing we said was, it's not

1880
01:36:24,920 --> 01:36:27,400
Speaker 4: on the coaches, y'all, it's on us. And if we

1881
01:36:27,439 --> 01:36:30,960
Speaker 4: don't make plays, we don't win. And it changed. We

1882
01:36:31,000 --> 01:36:33,639
Speaker 4: did that in eighty seven, the strike year. We talked

1883
01:36:33,640 --> 01:36:35,640
Speaker 4: about that and what happened the following year. We go

1884
01:36:35,680 --> 01:36:36,200
Speaker 4: to Super Bowl.

1885
01:36:37,439 --> 01:36:40,920
Speaker 10: We got Mehadi Biz, we got porches. I mean, look

1886
01:36:40,920 --> 01:36:43,920
Speaker 10: at wide receiver. Man, don't get better at what we got.

1887
01:36:44,280 --> 01:36:46,120
Speaker 10: We can't get better what we got, And here we

1888
01:36:46,200 --> 01:36:49,760
Speaker 10: are playing like we got you know, savetts or a

1889
01:36:49,840 --> 01:36:51,720
Speaker 10: picture or something on the side, you know what I mean,

1890
01:36:51,760 --> 01:36:54,280
Speaker 10: what the what the crazy?

1891
01:36:54,280 --> 01:36:56,680
Speaker 2: We love to have what we got, no doubt, no

1892
01:36:56,760 --> 01:36:59,920
Speaker 2: doubt Heydonald, You've got it.

1893
01:37:00,040 --> 01:37:00,519
Speaker 4: Take a break.

1894
01:37:00,560 --> 01:37:03,559
Speaker 2: You're listening to the tri State Chevy Dealers Postgame Sports

1895
01:37:03,560 --> 01:37:08,160
Speaker 2: Talk presented by RNL Carriers, live from the Wings and

1896
01:37:08,240 --> 01:37:09,519
Speaker 2: Rings in Liberty Township.

1897
01:37:09,560 --> 01:37:10,439
Speaker 4: He's David Fulcher.

1898
01:37:10,680 --> 01:37:15,479
Speaker 2: This is Chick Ludwig seven hundred WLW in Cincinnati's ESPN

1899
01:37:15,560 --> 01:37:22,360
Speaker 2: fifteen thirty. You are listening to the tri State Chevy

1900
01:37:22,400 --> 01:37:26,599
Speaker 2: Dealers postgame Sports Talk with the Chickster, Chick Ludwig and

1901
01:37:27,120 --> 01:37:31,560
Speaker 2: Faux Rock David Fulcher picks. We're presented by RNL Carriers.

1902
01:37:31,720 --> 01:37:34,960
Speaker 2: We're live at Wings and Rings, Liberty Township and we're

1903
01:37:35,000 --> 01:37:41,200
Speaker 2: continuing to talk Cincinnati Bengals football twenty to eighteen loss

1904
01:37:41,200 --> 01:37:44,559
Speaker 2: today and then what the future holds. Let's go out

1905
01:37:44,560 --> 01:37:46,520
Speaker 2: to the phones. Matt in Springfield.

1906
01:37:46,560 --> 01:37:50,200
Speaker 18: Are you there, Matt, Hey, what's going on? Chicken and

1907
01:37:50,400 --> 01:37:51,280
Speaker 18: enjoy listening to y'all.

1908
01:37:51,320 --> 01:37:54,360
Speaker 2: Man, you all right appreciate it, say it that it's

1909
01:37:54,400 --> 01:37:54,880
Speaker 2: coming with.

1910
01:37:56,000 --> 01:37:59,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, last show the man.

1911
01:38:00,360 --> 01:38:00,599
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1912
01:38:00,760 --> 01:38:03,720
Speaker 3: I knew though. My cousin who's a Browns fan, man,

1913
01:38:03,760 --> 01:38:05,080
Speaker 3: he went with me, and I knew.

1914
01:38:05,120 --> 01:38:06,880
Speaker 18: I even told him, you know, when the time was

1915
01:38:07,360 --> 01:38:09,040
Speaker 18: that much time up from the clock, I told him

1916
01:38:09,040 --> 01:38:10,800
Speaker 18: I was like, watch, you all are going to get

1917
01:38:10,800 --> 01:38:12,720
Speaker 18: into the range. You're gonna kick the game, winnings will

1918
01:38:12,720 --> 01:38:15,120
Speaker 18: go and you're gonna be He was even telling me too,

1919
01:38:15,120 --> 01:38:16,920
Speaker 18: because he knows how the Browns have put him down.

1920
01:38:16,960 --> 01:38:19,160
Speaker 18: He's like, Oh no, that's not gonna happen, you know,

1921
01:38:19,200 --> 01:38:21,920
Speaker 18: because the way it's been going for us. But it's

1922
01:38:21,960 --> 01:38:24,200
Speaker 18: just been the tail all season long with this team. Man,

1923
01:38:24,240 --> 01:38:25,880
Speaker 18: it's coming up short.

1924
01:38:25,920 --> 01:38:28,120
Speaker 3: Every time. It's like they get they getting range to.

1925
01:38:28,080 --> 01:38:30,479
Speaker 18: Win, they leave too much time on the clock, and

1926
01:38:30,560 --> 01:38:34,200
Speaker 18: every single time the defense does something to let the

1927
01:38:34,240 --> 01:38:37,479
Speaker 18: team down. Every single time. It's been that way since

1928
01:38:37,520 --> 01:38:39,920
Speaker 18: the Jets game, Bears game, I mean too many games

1929
01:38:39,920 --> 01:38:42,760
Speaker 18: the list. So it's just the same story to.

1930
01:38:42,880 --> 01:38:44,920
Speaker 3: A very dreadful season.

1931
01:38:44,960 --> 01:38:46,240
Speaker 18: At the end of the day, though, I mean, we're

1932
01:38:46,280 --> 01:38:50,320
Speaker 18: picking what tenth now because the Chiefs won, So let's

1933
01:38:50,320 --> 01:38:53,200
Speaker 18: hope they can at least draft somebody that you know,

1934
01:38:53,240 --> 01:38:57,519
Speaker 18: can potentially be a playmaker. But I am getting nervous

1935
01:38:57,520 --> 01:38:59,680
Speaker 18: though with Burrows comments. Man after the game, Man, I

1936
01:38:59,720 --> 01:39:03,280
Speaker 18: hope he doesn't try to do uh a old you know,

1937
01:39:03,400 --> 01:39:05,360
Speaker 18: Chrison Palmer and forced his way out of town. I mean,

1938
01:39:05,479 --> 01:39:08,080
Speaker 18: I wouldn't blame him if that was to happen with

1939
01:39:08,800 --> 01:39:10,960
Speaker 18: this the way this franchise has let him down on

1940
01:39:11,000 --> 01:39:13,160
Speaker 18: the you know, with the defensive side of the ball,

1941
01:39:13,640 --> 01:39:14,960
Speaker 18: and he is getting up there in age.

1942
01:39:15,040 --> 01:39:17,000
Speaker 3: So I don't know, guys.

1943
01:39:17,040 --> 01:39:19,080
Speaker 18: I mean, it was fun though, to go down.

1944
01:39:18,920 --> 01:39:20,360
Speaker 3: You know, one last time for the season.

1945
01:39:20,880 --> 01:39:23,200
Speaker 18: You know, freezing at that place was act for the

1946
01:39:23,240 --> 01:39:26,880
Speaker 18: mac coll has actually surprised how many Browns fanas actually

1947
01:39:26,880 --> 01:39:29,200
Speaker 18: traveled there. It sounded like a Browns game. I don't

1948
01:39:29,200 --> 01:39:31,360
Speaker 18: know if y'all heard on TV, like a Brown's home game.

1949
01:39:31,600 --> 01:39:34,000
Speaker 18: You're a people chanting Miles Garrett after you got that sack.

1950
01:39:34,520 --> 01:39:37,680
Speaker 18: Oh wow there.

1951
01:39:37,880 --> 01:39:40,960
Speaker 2: I was like, many appreciate the call. Yeah, the Browns

1952
01:39:41,040 --> 01:39:44,160
Speaker 2: backers really are a worldwide.

1953
01:39:43,560 --> 01:39:46,240
Speaker 4: They follow the follow they really do.

1954
01:39:46,360 --> 01:39:48,559
Speaker 2: They're an unbelievable fan base.

1955
01:39:49,160 --> 01:39:52,360
Speaker 4: And well, yeah, when Miles Garrett got the sack, it

1956
01:39:52,880 --> 01:39:55,879
Speaker 4: did go a little crazy. They were like Miles Garrett.

1957
01:39:55,880 --> 01:39:58,160
Speaker 4: They kept saying, they kept saying it, and you know,

1958
01:39:58,479 --> 01:40:02,439
Speaker 4: we we knew it was coming. I was hoping that

1959
01:40:02,520 --> 01:40:05,240
Speaker 4: it didn't happen, but we knew it was coming. When

1960
01:40:05,280 --> 01:40:08,000
Speaker 4: it came, you know, there's really nothing you can say, man,

1961
01:40:08,040 --> 01:40:11,080
Speaker 4: You just you know, it's a sack. He got the

1962
01:40:11,120 --> 01:40:15,720
Speaker 4: he got the he got the The generosity of the

1963
01:40:15,720 --> 01:40:17,639
Speaker 4: fans is letting him know what's going on.

1964
01:40:17,560 --> 01:40:22,240
Speaker 2: But the generosity of the officials that let him celebrate.

1965
01:40:21,880 --> 01:40:25,040
Speaker 4: Without that that right there, I'm shocked that you know,

1966
01:40:25,120 --> 01:40:27,680
Speaker 4: the guys, you know the guys on TV as I'm

1967
01:40:27,720 --> 01:40:30,040
Speaker 4: looking at some of these TV screens and I see

1968
01:40:30,080 --> 01:40:34,679
Speaker 4: straight handing their group on Fox that nobody is talking about.

1969
01:40:34,960 --> 01:40:36,880
Speaker 4: And maybe they have and maybe we didn't see him,

1970
01:40:36,920 --> 01:40:41,960
Speaker 4: but nobody's talking about that scenario, that situation. That's because

1971
01:40:41,960 --> 01:40:44,519
Speaker 4: he got the sack, doesn't mean that the game is

1972
01:40:44,520 --> 01:40:49,360
Speaker 4: supposed to stop that sack live play ball is still going.

1973
01:40:49,439 --> 01:40:51,880
Speaker 4: Joe Burrow gets off the ground and the clock is

1974
01:40:51,920 --> 01:40:54,240
Speaker 4: supposed to be running for Joe to cut the team

1975
01:40:54,280 --> 01:40:56,080
Speaker 4: on the line of scrimma, and they called.

1976
01:40:55,880 --> 01:40:58,120
Speaker 2: Time out for the Browns to celebrate.

1977
01:40:58,160 --> 01:41:01,280
Speaker 4: That's a fifteen yard penalty. They could they could throw

1978
01:41:03,240 --> 01:41:06,080
Speaker 4: extra penalties on that and move the ball down the

1979
01:41:06,120 --> 01:41:09,880
Speaker 4: field with the Biggles being into him. Because players left

1980
01:41:09,920 --> 01:41:13,880
Speaker 4: the field to go out there and celebrate him. They

1981
01:41:13,960 --> 01:41:17,640
Speaker 4: stopped play for no reason. It wasn't fourth down. It

1982
01:41:17,760 --> 01:41:20,599
Speaker 4: was a sack and the play clock still runs, and

1983
01:41:20,640 --> 01:41:24,280
Speaker 4: the officials stopped the clock and then rewind it after

1984
01:41:24,280 --> 01:41:26,400
Speaker 4: everybody got off the field. There's no way, Jack, that's

1985
01:41:26,400 --> 01:41:29,040
Speaker 4: both to happen, Unbelievabay, you're exactly right.

1986
01:41:29,280 --> 01:41:32,800
Speaker 2: And you wonder if before the game there was any

1987
01:41:32,920 --> 01:41:36,519
Speaker 2: understanding that if he gets the sack record there will

1988
01:41:36,560 --> 01:41:38,000
Speaker 2: be a celebration.

1989
01:41:37,720 --> 01:41:40,639
Speaker 4: Unless the Browns called time out after he gets the sack.

1990
01:41:41,200 --> 01:41:43,479
Speaker 4: That we don't know, right, but I don't think it

1991
01:41:43,520 --> 01:41:46,040
Speaker 4: was a timeout call, no, because they were just standing

1992
01:41:46,080 --> 01:41:49,160
Speaker 4: in The referees were looking everybody's clapping, and then as

1993
01:41:49,200 --> 01:41:51,679
Speaker 4: a Brown started getting off the field, they head referee

1994
01:41:51,720 --> 01:41:54,040
Speaker 4: backed up and he went like this whind the clock?

1995
01:41:54,760 --> 01:41:56,880
Speaker 4: So wait a minute, why did the clock stop?

1996
01:41:57,840 --> 01:42:01,160
Speaker 2: And Zach Taylor's reaction to all this what is going

1997
01:42:01,200 --> 01:42:03,559
Speaker 2: on here led me to believe that there was no

1998
01:42:03,760 --> 01:42:06,920
Speaker 2: understanding that the clock that the game would stop it

1999
01:42:07,400 --> 01:42:11,040
Speaker 2: with an officials time out and letting the Cleveland Brown

2000
01:42:11,080 --> 01:42:11,320
Speaker 2: sell it.

2001
01:42:11,439 --> 01:42:14,320
Speaker 4: So and you made the state the comment earlier about

2002
01:42:14,320 --> 01:42:16,280
Speaker 4: Corey Dillon when he got the two hundred and seventy

2003
01:42:16,320 --> 01:42:19,599
Speaker 4: five yards wrestling and broke Walter Payton singles game wrestler.

2004
01:42:19,880 --> 01:42:23,240
Speaker 4: So the King didn't stop, No, Corey Dillon came to

2005
01:42:23,280 --> 01:42:26,799
Speaker 4: the sideline. Everybody's high fiving and they're still playing football

2006
01:42:26,800 --> 01:42:30,000
Speaker 4: on the field. I don't get it, man, But you

2007
01:42:30,040 --> 01:42:32,479
Speaker 4: know what, don't it only happens the Cincinnadi. I know

2008
01:42:32,640 --> 01:42:34,400
Speaker 4: it doesn't happen nobody else. That's exactly.

2009
01:42:34,520 --> 01:42:37,559
Speaker 2: Oh, yes, Hey, let's go out to the phones. John

2010
01:42:37,680 --> 01:42:38,640
Speaker 2: and Cedarville.

2011
01:42:39,080 --> 01:42:42,920
Speaker 6: Hi, John, Hey, let's talk to you and chick.

2012
01:42:46,280 --> 01:42:48,320
Speaker 4: Appreciate it, John, we're here.

2013
01:42:50,160 --> 01:42:53,160
Speaker 6: Hey, Yeah, how are you guys doing it?

2014
01:42:53,479 --> 01:42:55,040
Speaker 4: We're doing okay, hanging in.

2015
01:42:56,800 --> 01:43:02,080
Speaker 21: Hey, today's game. I mean, Miles Garrett I mean, hats

2016
01:43:02,080 --> 01:43:05,680
Speaker 21: off to him, but but I'm a Bengals fan and

2017
01:43:05,840 --> 01:43:08,799
Speaker 21: I really don't give a crap about Miles garrett Ory's record.

2018
01:43:08,840 --> 01:43:13,880
Speaker 6: But needs to say. They talked about the celebrations. They

2019
01:43:13,880 --> 01:43:17,960
Speaker 6: should have flagged them guys after those touchdowns that run back.

2020
01:43:17,840 --> 01:43:21,719
Speaker 4: In that stoop and go oh grabbing, grabbing the crotch.

2021
01:43:23,479 --> 01:43:24,439
Speaker 6: It wasn't like they.

2022
01:43:24,280 --> 01:43:26,840
Speaker 21: Were doing the gritty or the dagg on crib walk

2023
01:43:26,960 --> 01:43:30,160
Speaker 21: or something. I mean, you know, but I mean that

2024
01:43:30,320 --> 01:43:30,879
Speaker 21: was funky.

2025
01:43:31,000 --> 01:43:34,880
Speaker 2: How about the Los Angeles rams on the blockfield goal

2026
01:43:34,960 --> 01:43:37,240
Speaker 2: and the guy returns it and as he's running to

2027
01:43:37,280 --> 01:43:41,320
Speaker 2: the end zone. He looks at the sideline and gives

2028
01:43:41,320 --> 01:43:45,400
Speaker 2: a peace sign. Yes, he could find eleven thousand dollars.

2029
01:43:45,400 --> 01:43:49,479
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, and well them two guys that grabbed their crotch. Hey,

2030
01:43:49,840 --> 01:43:51,080
Speaker 4: I was up there in the press box.

2031
01:43:51,560 --> 01:43:54,280
Speaker 6: What do you What do you guys think about cameo

2032
01:43:54,479 --> 01:43:55,200
Speaker 6: Joe Flacco?

2033
01:43:56,560 --> 01:43:59,240
Speaker 2: Oh the cameo where he came out and got a

2034
01:43:59,280 --> 01:44:00,719
Speaker 2: first down on a quarterbacks?

2035
01:44:00,960 --> 01:44:01,519
Speaker 4: The quarterbacks?

2036
01:44:01,560 --> 01:44:02,639
Speaker 2: Yea, yeah, I love.

2037
01:44:04,000 --> 01:44:05,640
Speaker 6: Plays in both games.

2038
01:44:06,080 --> 01:44:06,880
Speaker 22: Is Joe Burrow?

2039
01:44:06,960 --> 01:44:08,920
Speaker 6: I'd like to know the stasisitions from this.

2040
01:44:09,800 --> 01:44:14,280
Speaker 22: How many batted balls does Joe Burrow have under center

2041
01:44:14,800 --> 01:44:18,800
Speaker 22: compared to end the shotguns and if they're if there

2042
01:44:18,920 --> 01:44:22,320
Speaker 22: is a significant difference, he needs to stop one or

2043
01:44:22,360 --> 01:44:25,160
Speaker 22: the other and quit standing back there like your Doug

2044
01:44:25,200 --> 01:44:29,200
Speaker 22: flutyin't getting everything batted back at you or tipped and intercepted.

2045
01:44:30,680 --> 01:44:36,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, John appreciate the call as always, there are so

2046
01:44:36,840 --> 01:44:39,960
Speaker 2: many issues right now with this club.

2047
01:44:40,240 --> 01:44:42,680
Speaker 4: But I was just trying to figure out when I

2048
01:44:42,720 --> 01:44:44,400
Speaker 4: heard that this call is being recorded.

2049
01:44:44,439 --> 01:44:47,639
Speaker 6: I didn't know Next year they come out.

2050
01:44:47,680 --> 01:44:50,519
Speaker 21: Next year they got approve on every dag on play

2051
01:44:51,040 --> 01:44:54,240
Speaker 21: starting in mini camp. That why they are the Super

2052
01:44:54,280 --> 01:44:59,120
Speaker 21: Bowl champions and go out and play on every single play,

2053
01:44:59,600 --> 01:45:01,959
Speaker 21: proven why they are Super Bowl champions.

2054
01:45:02,280 --> 01:45:05,000
Speaker 2: Well, it would be nice, John, it would be nice

2055
01:45:05,240 --> 01:45:10,800
Speaker 2: if everybody on this franchise showed up for all the OTAs.

2056
01:45:11,120 --> 01:45:13,000
Speaker 4: But like they did Super Bowl season.

2057
01:45:13,120 --> 01:45:18,240
Speaker 2: Yes, everybody under contract, everybody on site instead of you know,

2058
01:45:18,320 --> 01:45:22,200
Speaker 2: bickering about their contracts. So there was a lot of

2059
01:45:22,520 --> 01:45:24,960
Speaker 2: a lot of that in the last couple of years. So hey,

2060
01:45:24,960 --> 01:45:26,960
Speaker 2: we've got to take a break. I appreciate the call,

2061
01:45:27,240 --> 01:45:29,759
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2081
01:46:49,320 --> 01:46:53,120
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2083
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2084
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2085
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2086
01:47:05,640 --> 01:47:09,640
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2087
01:47:09,640 --> 01:47:14,599
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2088
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2089
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2090
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2091
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2092
01:47:27,320 --> 01:47:30,080
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2096
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2097
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2098
01:47:48,840 --> 01:47:52,640
Speaker 4: this restaurant and all of them across the Ohio in Kentucky,

2099
01:47:53,000 --> 01:47:55,840
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2100
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2101
01:47:58,840 --> 01:48:03,000
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2104
01:48:13,520 --> 01:48:16,520
Speaker 2: were able to get out of today pretty well unscathed.

2105
01:48:16,560 --> 01:48:20,599
Speaker 2: But there were two Cleveland Browns that really got injured.

2106
01:48:21,120 --> 01:48:26,200
Speaker 2: Tyson Campbell cornerback with a shoulder injury. He exited but

2107
01:48:26,240 --> 01:48:31,240
Speaker 2: then came back. But Denzel Ward, the outstanding corner he

2108
01:48:31,280 --> 01:48:33,920
Speaker 2: had a pick six in his career against Joe Burrow,

2109
01:48:33,960 --> 01:48:36,759
Speaker 2: remembered act from a couple of years ago. But Denzel

2110
01:48:36,800 --> 01:48:40,360
Speaker 2: Ward went out with a neck injury and did not return.

2111
01:48:40,560 --> 01:48:42,479
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think there was a few Bengal players that

2112
01:48:42,520 --> 01:48:46,040
Speaker 4: would kind of beat up the two corners. Oh and

2113
01:48:46,520 --> 01:48:49,840
Speaker 4: Dax Hill dak Hill. Yeah, I think he got hurt

2114
01:48:49,960 --> 01:48:53,160
Speaker 4: banged up. I don't know if he came back in

2115
01:48:53,200 --> 01:48:54,880
Speaker 4: the game or not, but I know they were talking

2116
01:48:54,880 --> 01:48:58,800
Speaker 4: about him on my ride over here, and wasn't I'm

2117
01:48:58,840 --> 01:49:00,240
Speaker 4: not sure if it was good or bad, but it

2118
01:49:00,320 --> 01:49:02,599
Speaker 4: sounded like the Bengals kind of walked out of there

2119
01:49:02,640 --> 01:49:05,840
Speaker 4: with everybody walking on two feet instead of somebody carrying

2120
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Speaker 4: them out.

2121
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2125
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Speaker 2: And let's go back out to the phones. Do we

2126
01:49:20,760 --> 01:49:22,120
Speaker 2: have Jack and Dayton?

2127
01:49:23,920 --> 01:49:24,280
Speaker 4: Okay?

2128
01:49:24,320 --> 01:49:29,760
Speaker 2: How about Richard and Dayton? All right, gosh, is there

2129
01:49:29,800 --> 01:49:33,160
Speaker 2: anybody else left? Danny, I'll tell you what after Bill?

2130
01:49:33,200 --> 01:49:35,120
Speaker 2: We got a Bill, Well, we got Bill, I got

2131
01:49:35,120 --> 01:49:36,560
Speaker 2: Bill outstanding?

2132
01:49:36,640 --> 01:49:38,919
Speaker 4: Hi Bill, Hey.

2133
01:49:38,800 --> 01:49:40,479
Speaker 6: Guys, Hey, thanks for taking my call.

2134
01:49:41,200 --> 01:49:44,880
Speaker 10: Hey David. Okay, so I saw.

2135
01:49:44,840 --> 01:49:47,599
Speaker 14: And was around three of the guys you played with.

2136
01:49:48,760 --> 01:49:49,439
Speaker 2: Great guys.

2137
01:49:49,479 --> 01:49:52,160
Speaker 17: I'm not going to say their name, but they all

2138
01:49:52,200 --> 01:49:53,240
Speaker 17: said the same thing.

2139
01:49:53,360 --> 01:49:54,800
Speaker 6: Me and all my buddies.

2140
01:49:54,400 --> 01:49:59,400
Speaker 14: Believe that, you know, Zach, Taylor, Tobin and Golden.

2141
01:49:59,560 --> 01:50:00,760
Speaker 2: They don't know what they're doing.

2142
01:50:01,000 --> 01:50:03,680
Speaker 17: I mean, when you have the kind of roster we have,

2143
01:50:03,960 --> 01:50:06,680
Speaker 17: we should be doing better than we're doing, you know.

2144
01:50:06,880 --> 01:50:08,240
Speaker 6: And I'm looking at the.

2145
01:50:08,200 --> 01:50:12,639
Speaker 17: Bengals thinking to myself, are the Bengals problems.

2146
01:50:12,040 --> 01:50:13,240
Speaker 6: Fixable in one year?

2147
01:50:13,800 --> 01:50:17,200
Speaker 10: And I don't think so. You know, there's just too.

2148
01:50:17,000 --> 01:50:18,320
Speaker 22: Many holes right now.

2149
01:50:18,920 --> 01:50:20,280
Speaker 6: The offense is amazing.

2150
01:50:20,320 --> 01:50:23,639
Speaker 8: But if we can't stop anybody, you know, what's what's

2151
01:50:23,640 --> 01:50:24,680
Speaker 8: our future look like?

2152
01:50:25,000 --> 01:50:27,400
Speaker 6: And if Joe Burrow do you know, do I want

2153
01:50:27,439 --> 01:50:28,000
Speaker 6: to stay here?

2154
01:50:28,600 --> 01:50:28,960
Speaker 2: Well?

2155
01:50:29,000 --> 01:50:31,840
Speaker 4: You know, I I you know, some of the things

2156
01:50:31,880 --> 01:50:36,040
Speaker 4: you're saying I think is true. But you know, there

2157
01:50:36,680 --> 01:50:40,080
Speaker 4: when this is a draft, everybody's picking from the same

2158
01:50:42,120 --> 01:50:45,400
Speaker 4: group of players. You know, one guy was in here

2159
01:50:45,439 --> 01:50:49,479
Speaker 4: earlier talked about you know, when Patrick Mahomes was drafted,

2160
01:50:50,200 --> 01:50:53,519
Speaker 4: we went after another Ross, John Ross Ross, and we

2161
01:50:53,560 --> 01:50:56,600
Speaker 4: probably could have Patrick Mahomes. Well I'm really kind of

2162
01:50:56,600 --> 01:50:59,040
Speaker 4: glad we didn't get Patrick Mahomes. You know, I just

2163
01:50:59,280 --> 01:51:01,519
Speaker 4: you know, he he belongs in Kansas City. Let him

2164
01:51:01,520 --> 01:51:04,680
Speaker 4: stay there. But the simple fact that is, if all

2165
01:51:04,760 --> 01:51:08,280
Speaker 4: these teams, the thirty two teams are drafting from the

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01:51:08,320 --> 01:51:10,880
Speaker 4: same pool, they go to the Combine, they go to

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01:51:10,920 --> 01:51:13,800
Speaker 4: the Senior Games, they look at all these players, and

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Speaker 4: how is it that we don't get you know, some

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01:51:18,920 --> 01:51:21,400
Speaker 4: of the best players being picked in the draft. Well,

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01:51:21,439 --> 01:51:24,960
Speaker 4: it goes back to your recruiting. You'r a scouting department.

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01:51:25,479 --> 01:51:28,160
Speaker 4: It goes back to the guy who's running that scouting department.

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01:51:28,360 --> 01:51:31,120
Speaker 4: I'm not saying Duke Tobin is not the best scout

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01:51:31,200 --> 01:51:34,639
Speaker 4: or best person for that position, but when you're scouting

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Speaker 4: players like everybody else, it's hard to do. It's hard

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01:51:39,200 --> 01:51:42,000
Speaker 4: to do those things. So when I look back, I go,

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01:51:43,160 --> 01:51:46,280
Speaker 4: there is a lot of talent on this team. I

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Speaker 4: think it's a lot of things that needs to be changed,

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Speaker 4: and offensively, defensively, Offensively, I don't know how much more

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Speaker 4: you can really do. But add some linemen offensive line,

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01:51:56,400 --> 01:52:03,320
Speaker 4: they help defensively, you know, pass rush, cover corners, linebackers

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01:52:03,320 --> 01:52:05,920
Speaker 4: that you know, the linebackers aren't bad. But if I'm

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Speaker 4: going to be the guy that's running the scouting department

2183
01:52:08,880 --> 01:52:12,720
Speaker 4: or the draft, I'm going to after defense. What do

2184
01:52:12,800 --> 01:52:17,240
Speaker 4: they say, Defensive teams win, Defensive teams win championships. Offensive

2185
01:52:17,240 --> 01:52:19,839
Speaker 4: team put points on the board. We got an offensive

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01:52:19,840 --> 01:52:22,519
Speaker 4: team that put points on the board, but our defense

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01:52:22,640 --> 01:52:25,760
Speaker 4: is suspect. So how do we fix that. We have

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01:52:25,880 --> 01:52:26,360
Speaker 4: to fix it.

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Speaker 10: Well we Yeah, I think we did.

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01:52:28,760 --> 01:52:31,120
Speaker 17: Okay, I think Miles Murphy looks like he can play

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01:52:31,640 --> 01:52:32,479
Speaker 17: Jamar Stewart.

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Speaker 4: We you know, the jury's still out on him. You know.

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01:52:35,400 --> 01:52:38,479
Speaker 17: There's a lot of holes on this team, you know,

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01:52:38,560 --> 01:52:40,000
Speaker 17: and we need to figure that out.

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01:52:40,080 --> 01:52:42,080
Speaker 6: And they're going to have a lot of cap money.

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01:52:42,080 --> 01:52:43,720
Speaker 17: They need to figure out a way to spend the

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Speaker 17: cap money effective.

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01:52:44,800 --> 01:52:47,599
Speaker 2: With me and Bill, a lot of decisions need to

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01:52:47,680 --> 01:52:51,880
Speaker 2: be made too, especially with this class of twenty twenty three.

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01:52:52,280 --> 01:52:58,479
Speaker 2: Miles Murphy still has what two more years? Really, I

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01:52:58,520 --> 01:53:01,479
Speaker 2: believe move was that Murphy? Yeah, if they if they

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01:53:01,479 --> 01:53:02,360
Speaker 2: give him a fifth year.

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01:53:02,439 --> 01:53:04,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, so he's he's going the second year of his

2204
01:53:04,960 --> 01:53:05,759
Speaker 4: rookie contract.

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01:53:06,000 --> 01:53:12,439
Speaker 2: Yes, now, but DJ Turner, Jordan Battle, Charlie Jones, Chase Brown,

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01:53:12,560 --> 01:53:15,040
Speaker 2: you definitely want to keep, you know, going into his.

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01:53:15,240 --> 01:53:17,120
Speaker 4: You got to you gotta go ahead and sign Chase

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01:53:17,160 --> 01:53:21,040
Speaker 4: Brown now. Don't wait to absolutely, Yeah, you don't want

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Speaker 4: Chase Brown in the offseason sitting around not playing preseason

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01:53:25,760 --> 01:53:28,360
Speaker 4: games because he's waiting on the contract extension. Go ahead

2211
01:53:28,400 --> 01:53:30,840
Speaker 4: and do it now, because the kid, the kid can play,

2212
01:53:30,880 --> 01:53:31,559
Speaker 4: The kid can.

2213
01:53:31,439 --> 01:53:34,080
Speaker 2: Work cam Taylor. Britt is due to be a free

2214
01:53:34,120 --> 01:53:35,240
Speaker 2: agent at the end of the year.

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01:53:35,360 --> 01:53:37,679
Speaker 4: He may not be here. He's hurt and he's coming

2216
01:53:37,680 --> 01:53:40,439
Speaker 4: off an injury. He's hurt right now, and so we'll

2217
01:53:40,439 --> 01:53:42,599
Speaker 4: figure that one out. But you know, I still think

2218
01:53:42,640 --> 01:53:44,360
Speaker 4: they need to go in the draft and go defense,

2219
01:53:45,960 --> 01:53:48,479
Speaker 4: you know, because it doesn't hurt to have, you know,

2220
01:53:48,680 --> 01:53:53,160
Speaker 4: three defensive tackles, and you know, and all three of

2221
01:53:53,160 --> 01:53:55,240
Speaker 4: them about the same. So you really don't lose nothing

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01:53:55,240 --> 01:53:57,240
Speaker 4: when you lose the first one, second, and third. But

2223
01:53:57,320 --> 01:54:00,599
Speaker 4: when you got some depth at those positions, then now

2224
01:54:00,640 --> 01:54:02,519
Speaker 4: you can work some things out. You can move people

2225
01:54:02,560 --> 01:54:05,120
Speaker 4: around and make some things happen. Because a lot of

2226
01:54:05,160 --> 01:54:07,559
Speaker 4: the problems that we have, we can't put pressure on

2227
01:54:07,600 --> 01:54:12,280
Speaker 4: the quarterback. That front four or front seven has to

2228
01:54:12,320 --> 01:54:14,920
Speaker 4: be better than it has been in the last couple

2229
01:54:14,920 --> 01:54:17,599
Speaker 4: of years, and that's what we're struggling, and our dvs

2230
01:54:17,720 --> 01:54:21,280
Speaker 4: look bad because the quarterback has all day to stand

2231
01:54:21,320 --> 01:54:23,719
Speaker 4: back then and throw the football. So you can put

2232
01:54:23,800 --> 01:54:27,360
Speaker 4: anybody that's like white receivers. You got a quarterback like

2233
01:54:27,439 --> 01:54:31,719
Speaker 4: Joe Burrow, Tom Brady, it was a quarterback that didn't

2234
01:54:31,720 --> 01:54:34,840
Speaker 4: have the big name white receivers but Tom Brady got

2235
01:54:34,880 --> 01:54:35,600
Speaker 4: the ball to him.

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01:54:36,040 --> 01:54:37,160
Speaker 2: The same way with our offense.

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01:54:37,200 --> 01:54:39,680
Speaker 4: We've got what we need on offense, the weapons, but

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01:54:39,800 --> 01:54:42,680
Speaker 4: defense it has to be the important part of our

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01:54:42,760 --> 01:54:44,480
Speaker 4: season for twenty twenty six.

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Speaker 5: At Bill, Now, David, do you think now, David, do

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Speaker 5: you think if the kid.

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01:54:48,800 --> 01:54:51,400
Speaker 6: From Ohio State is available that we take him?

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01:54:52,720 --> 01:54:57,040
Speaker 2: If he's there? Is that downs cale? Is that Caleb down.

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01:54:56,880 --> 01:55:00,280
Speaker 4: Downs If he's there, I take him. Yes, he's there.

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01:55:00,280 --> 01:55:04,320
Speaker 4: I'm taking a hardba. I mean, there's no doubt right now.

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01:55:05,440 --> 01:55:10,240
Speaker 4: Right now, I'm saying the Bengals on the clock right now,

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01:55:10,360 --> 01:55:13,080
Speaker 4: number one pick for the since day Bengals, the guy

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01:55:13,120 --> 01:55:16,800
Speaker 4: from Ohio State downs and then from there own we

2249
01:55:16,920 --> 01:55:22,360
Speaker 4: just started getting better and better with defense. All right, Bill,

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Speaker 4: we got to run appreciate the call.

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Speaker 2: Let's check David on Cincinnati's defensive secondary coverage today, brought

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Speaker 2: for over twenty years. You know, I'm looking at the

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01:55:39,000 --> 01:55:43,280
Speaker 2: tackle the defensive statistics here, and it's nice not to

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01:55:43,320 --> 01:55:46,560
Speaker 2: see all the DB's at the top. Not supposed to

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01:55:46,600 --> 01:55:48,800
Speaker 2: be like that. Yeah, that's up. So we've got the

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01:55:48,920 --> 01:55:52,840
Speaker 2: BJ Hill with eight tackles. Cam Sample had the sack

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01:55:53,480 --> 01:55:59,560
Speaker 2: and the force fumble, and GJ. Slayton was very active

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01:55:59,640 --> 01:56:01,400
Speaker 2: up along with Miles Murpheet.

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Speaker 4: So yes, that's how it's supposed to be. That is

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01:56:06,080 --> 01:56:09,040
Speaker 4: what your statistics succeeds to be like at the end

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01:56:09,040 --> 01:56:12,600
Speaker 4: of the game. He shouldn't be a safety a corner

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01:56:13,040 --> 01:56:15,160
Speaker 4: leading the team in tackles. They're right, because if that

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01:56:15,240 --> 01:56:18,840
Speaker 4: is what's happening, that means I'm tackling down there ten

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01:56:18,960 --> 01:56:21,040
Speaker 4: fifty yard down the field. They're getting to the second

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01:56:21,080 --> 01:56:22,960
Speaker 4: or third level. Well, when you put the pressure on

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01:56:23,000 --> 01:56:26,120
Speaker 4: your quarterback like we did today on Sanders, the guys

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01:56:26,200 --> 01:56:28,080
Speaker 4: up front were making plays and they were in his

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01:56:28,200 --> 01:56:31,440
Speaker 4: face and that's why the game wasn't as big of

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01:56:31,480 --> 01:56:34,400
Speaker 4: a blowout or big we give up too many points.

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01:56:34,640 --> 01:56:38,720
Speaker 4: The Bengals defense, a front seven, made plays and made

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Speaker 4: it easy for the corners and safeties to do their job.

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Speaker 2: Well outstanding individual efforts you know on offense by the

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Speaker 2: Bengals when you think of the Big Three with Joe Burrow,

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01:57:01,840 --> 01:57:05,360
Speaker 2: T Higgins and Jamar Chase, Jamar Chase going well over

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01:57:05,400 --> 01:57:09,240
Speaker 2: one thousand yards this year. T Higgins knocking on that door.

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Speaker 2: How about Tea with with eleven with eleven is a

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01:57:14,440 --> 01:57:17,720
Speaker 2: ten or eleven touchdown receptions? I think he's at eleven,

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01:57:17,800 --> 01:57:22,000
Speaker 2: He's at eleven. And Jamar I believe had eight touchdown

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01:57:22,040 --> 01:57:26,120
Speaker 2: receptions but well over thirteen hundred yards in receptions.

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01:57:25,840 --> 01:57:28,800
Speaker 4: And he had almost one hundred and thirty something catches.

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01:57:29,240 --> 01:57:32,200
Speaker 4: So he leaves the lead again and catches. Yeah, incredible.

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01:57:32,440 --> 01:57:36,120
Speaker 2: And then how about Chase Brown really blossoming as a

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01:57:36,200 --> 01:57:39,960
Speaker 2: complete running back and how awesome is it to have

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Speaker 2: both him the one two punch of Chase Brown and samij.

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01:57:44,200 --> 01:57:47,480
Speaker 4: P Ryan tomij p Ryan. Today I said, oh man,

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Speaker 4: he's about to get a hundred yards because he was,

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01:57:49,800 --> 01:57:52,560
Speaker 4: he was picking him up, putting them down. Today, he is,

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01:57:52,920 --> 01:57:56,200
Speaker 4: he's a battering Rams he said, never left Cincinnati, but

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01:57:56,280 --> 01:57:58,720
Speaker 4: he went over to Kansas City, tested the water, got

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01:57:58,760 --> 01:58:00,160
Speaker 4: a Super Bowl and now he's.

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01:58:00,120 --> 01:58:04,960
Speaker 2: Back Denver for it Denver first, and then Casey Yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 4: P Ryan, I'm telling you, man, he is. He is

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Speaker 4: a force to be record one. He reminds me of

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01:58:10,160 --> 01:58:14,680
Speaker 4: the old full backs that played when the being when

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01:58:14,760 --> 01:58:16,480
Speaker 4: in back in the league, when they had a tight end,

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01:58:16,480 --> 01:58:19,320
Speaker 4: a true tight end and three two wide receivers, a

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01:58:19,320 --> 01:58:22,960
Speaker 4: full back and tailback. P Ryan's my guy. Oh absolutely,

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Speaker 4: I'll go to world with p RN all day. And

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01:58:25,480 --> 01:58:26,000
Speaker 4: he rashed.

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01:58:26,000 --> 01:58:28,640
Speaker 2: He rushed for four hundred yards one game, you know,

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Speaker 2: the single game NCAA record, I believe in Oklahoma.

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Speaker 4: And he has the most rushing yards in Oklahoma football history.

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01:58:37,840 --> 01:58:40,320
Speaker 4: And they were mixing, was there too? That's right? Yeah,

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01:58:40,360 --> 01:58:43,760
Speaker 4: p Ryan is the leading russer And they say who

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01:58:43,880 --> 01:58:46,200
Speaker 4: was p Ryan when they always talk about Joe Mixon

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01:58:46,440 --> 01:58:49,720
Speaker 4: And p Ryan's the leading has the best rushing record

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01:58:49,880 --> 01:58:52,360
Speaker 4: or rushing yards in Oklahoma history.

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Speaker 2: Just incredible. Well, rock lets up. Let's take a look

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01:58:55,640 --> 01:58:59,920
Speaker 2: at scores around the National Football League. Big One tonight

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01:59:01,160 --> 01:59:05,520
Speaker 2: the Ravens at the Steelers, winner take all AFC North champ.

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Speaker 4: Who do you like? Oh my gosh, I don't like

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01:59:07,920 --> 01:59:10,920
Speaker 4: either one of them, idell, but somebody's gotta win. I

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01:59:10,920 --> 01:59:13,920
Speaker 4: don't know, man, I mean I don't like Pittsburgh. I

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01:59:13,920 --> 01:59:16,600
Speaker 4: mean I think it's more not liking Pittsburgh than it

2319
01:59:16,640 --> 01:59:19,320
Speaker 4: is Baltimore, because Baltimore is a I call him a

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01:59:19,360 --> 01:59:21,200
Speaker 4: retread tire that used to be the Browns and then

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01:59:21,240 --> 01:59:23,720
Speaker 4: he become the Ravens. So if I had to say,

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01:59:23,800 --> 01:59:29,080
Speaker 4: knock somebody out, Pittsburgh, you gotta go home. Amen to that.

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Speaker 2: And even if they do lose, Pittsburgh still a nine

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Speaker 2: and eight record.

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Speaker 4: Mike Tomlin, Mike Tomlin again, he works, he works. I'm

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01:59:37,480 --> 01:59:40,640
Speaker 4: telling you you can be mad at Mike Tomlin, but

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01:59:40,720 --> 01:59:42,640
Speaker 4: Mike Tomlin. Them guys play for that dude.

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Speaker 3: Man.

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01:59:43,480 --> 01:59:47,120
Speaker 4: Every time Mike Toman comes to Cincinnati and I'm with

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Speaker 4: my uniform compliance and I don't do the visiting team anymore.

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01:59:51,560 --> 01:59:53,880
Speaker 4: Rodney heat does it now? I do the Bengals only,

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01:59:55,880 --> 02:00:00,400
Speaker 4: Tom and goes, where's that guy? At thirty three? Wants

2333
02:00:00,400 --> 02:00:03,200
Speaker 4: to say hi to me? Yes, he actually said to me, man,

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02:00:03,360 --> 02:00:05,440
Speaker 4: if if you were playing, I love to have you

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Speaker 4: on my team. And I go, Mike, I can't play

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02:00:08,000 --> 02:00:10,360
Speaker 4: for Pittsburgh, man. Yeah, yeah, I love you, brother, but

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02:00:10,400 --> 02:00:12,880
Speaker 4: I can't play for Pittsburgh man. Amen to that.

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Speaker 2: And how about the Falcons knocking off to Saints today

2339
02:00:15,800 --> 02:00:21,240
Speaker 2: nineteen to seventeen, and that catapults the Carolina Panthers to

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02:00:21,320 --> 02:00:23,480
Speaker 2: win a post game to win the division with an

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Speaker 2: eight and nine record.

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Speaker 4: Wow, eight and nine and winning your division.

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Speaker 2: We almost had it here.

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Speaker 4: As a matter of fact, we will because the winning

2345
02:00:32,440 --> 02:00:35,680
Speaker 4: team tonight is it ten wins or nine wins? I

2346
02:00:35,760 --> 02:00:38,440
Speaker 4: think Pittsburgh and Baltimore both are eight.

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02:00:38,320 --> 02:00:43,640
Speaker 2: And Ravens are eight and eight. Steelers are nine and seven. Wow,

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Speaker 2: So if the Ravens win, there'll be nine and eight

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Speaker 2: and AFC North Champs.

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Speaker 4: Nine and eight to win the division. Yeah. Incredible, and

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Speaker 4: that this this was and you think about this, this

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Speaker 4: this was our turn, This was our year. The way

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Speaker 4: that the division was beating each other up, this was

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Speaker 4: our year. This was ours for the taking.

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Speaker 2: And we're running out.

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Speaker 4: Of this is our years. Yeah, I mean it's getting

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Speaker 4: it's getting old. You're getting tired of saying that these

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Speaker 4: guys are getting older. Joe Burrow's he's been getting beat up.

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Speaker 4: Joe Burrow is is you know, three spare tires on

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02:01:21,760 --> 02:01:25,440
Speaker 4: a car that has one good will? Because he's been

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02:01:25,480 --> 02:01:27,640
Speaker 4: beat up, and he's been beat up. And how much

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Speaker 4: longer can he play getting beat up? You can't.

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Speaker 2: He can't.

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Speaker 4: Joe Burrow cannot play in twenty twenty six and get

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Speaker 4: hit and get beat up. He can't. He's got to

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02:01:38,200 --> 02:01:41,840
Speaker 4: play an injury free a season where he is not

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Speaker 4: getting hit and beat up, because if he gets beat up,

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Speaker 4: you know, I'm looking at Andrew Luck when Andrew Luck

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02:01:48,560 --> 02:01:51,640
Speaker 4: left early in Indy. I hate to see that happen

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02:01:51,680 --> 02:01:53,200
Speaker 4: to this young man, but it could.

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Speaker 2: And that's what made last year so frustrated. He played

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Speaker 2: the entire year and look at all these records of

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02:02:00,080 --> 02:02:02,800
Speaker 2: Sushion last year, and we wasted that year on him,

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Speaker 2: wasted with a nine to eight record and sitting home.

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Speaker 4: You know you throw for four forty five hundred yards,

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Speaker 4: you got forty something, almost fifty something touchdowns. Dude, that

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Speaker 4: guy is supposed to be playing in postseason. There's no

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Speaker 4: offens and butt about it, no doubt.

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Speaker 2: Vikings over the Packers sixteen to three. The New York

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Speaker 2: Football Giants thirty four to seventeen winners over the Cowboys.

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Speaker 2: The Jags absolutely destroyed the Tennessee Titans forty one to seven.

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Speaker 2: The Texans go to twelve and five, defeating the Colts.

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Speaker 4: Thirty eight to thirty.

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Speaker 2: Bills are thirty five to eight winners over the New

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Speaker 2: York Jets, the Lions upset the Bears nineteen to sixteen,

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Speaker 2: Broncos over the Chargers nineteen to three, and the Chiefs

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Speaker 2: fall to the Vegas Las Vegas Raiders fourteen to twelve.

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Speaker 4: That's always a good Kansas.

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Speaker 2: And the Los Angeles Rams are thirty seven to twenty

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Speaker 2: winners over the Arizona Cardinals. Cardinals three and fourteen, unbelievable.

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Speaker 4: When they lost Tyler Murray. It's just Kyler. Yes, he

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Speaker 4: just went down in Arizona.

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Speaker 2: Patriots are thirty eight to ten winners over the Miami Dolphins,

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Speaker 2: and the Commanders defeat the Eagles twenty four to seventeen.

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Speaker 2: So big game tonight, winner take all. And David, we've

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Speaker 2: reached the end of the show. First of all, we

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Speaker 2: want to thank all the fans. Oh yeah, who came

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Speaker 2: out today, who called.

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Speaker 4: In, who called in, Yes, who's stuck with this football

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Speaker 4: team over the years, who listened to what we do

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Speaker 4: here and we can't ask anything else.

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Speaker 2: We appreciate all the loyal listeners. Yes, and on behalf

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Speaker 2: of my partner Faux Rock, David Vulture, it's been an honor,

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Speaker 2: pleasure and privilege you work with you, Jim Breach and

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Speaker 2: Bruce Kazerski and an honorary partner.

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Speaker 4: And Tim McGee.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, yeah, Oh, I've just had a fantastic time.

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Speaker 4: Thank you so much.

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Speaker 2: And to Mike Mills, our engineer, and our great producers

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Speaker 2: back in the Kenwood studios from Lean Tomlinson and Sean

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Speaker 2: McMahon and Shoeless Joe Waddell and Danny Gleeson.

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Speaker 4: Man, all I can say about this this team right here,

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Speaker 4: man is we went undefeated.

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Speaker 2: All right, all right, all right, appreciate that we went

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Speaker 2: undefeated and until next time. We hope that will be

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Speaker 2: next year. Yes, this is the Chickster Chick Ludwig on

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Speaker 2: behalf of my partner David Foulcher. Thanks for listening to

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Speaker 2: the Tri State Chevy Dealers. Postgame Sports Talk live from

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Speaker 2: Wings and Rings Liberty Township were presented by RNL Carriers

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Speaker 2: on seven hundred WLW and Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen thirty