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Speaker 1: Let's talk out of Tommy Hockey. Tom Canada got all

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Speaker 1: the calls. It wasn't egregious. I don't think it was

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Speaker 2: It wasn't egregious. And to be honest with you, Finland

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Speaker 2: just once they got up to nothing and got through

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Speaker 3: Was I was gonna bring that up. I thought they'd

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Speaker 3: tried to sit on the lead part too early.

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Speaker 2: It was terribly done by them, and Canada was just

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Speaker 2: swarming all game long. So that's that's gonna draw penalties too,

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Speaker 2: when you're just constantly on your heels stopping Canada's rush

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Speaker 2: over and over and over again.

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Speaker 3: But you know, yeah, Wilson took a bomb. That's ridiculous.

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Speaker 1: You know, I will say the penalty again. It was

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Speaker 1: definitely high stick. You know, the stick got right up

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Speaker 1: in Nate Dogg's face, So I get that. But you're

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Speaker 1: right about how Finland kind of, you know, went under

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Speaker 1: defensive too much too early. Canada had a thirty nine

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Speaker 1: seventeen edging shots. But I thought Finland was by far

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Speaker 1: the better team in the first period and should have

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Speaker 1: tried to extend that lead when it was too nil,

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Speaker 1: should have made a push on top of that short

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I think it's almost like they realize

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Speaker 2: that in the second intermission, like they were like, holy crap,

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Speaker 2: we're playing way too defensive right now.

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Speaker 3: This isn't good at two. One's not going to do it.

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Speaker 2: Because they came out pretty good again at the beginning

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Speaker 2: little bit there, But I think that was just too late.

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Speaker 2: They needed to think three, four, five goals even is

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Speaker 2: our goal.

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Speaker 3: In this one to end up winning this this hockey game.

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Speaker 1: Canadillk is ripe for the US picking Tom and Slovaki

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Speaker 1: is going to be a push over today.

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Speaker 3: I think they're just glad to be there.

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Speaker 1: I think they're already probably looking forward to the bronze

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think that that would be like the

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Speaker 2: most triumphant thing for everybody on that team to bring

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Speaker 2: a bronze medal home to Slovakia out of this tournament

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Speaker 2: they were't even supposed to make it out of like

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Speaker 2: the playing game r.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they're probably in the dressing room right now saying,

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Speaker 1: you know, we could beat Finland and they're getting ready to.

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Speaker 3: Play the US. They're beatable. This is good.

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Speaker 1: This seems like an impossible matchup because I mean, yeah,

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Speaker 1: like I said yesterday, Slovaki's best player, that's Lefkowski for Montreal.

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Speaker 1: He wouldn't even make the US team, wouldn't even make

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Speaker 1: Canada's team, wouldn't make I don't think he makes Finland

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Speaker 2: And you saw what Timosa did to Sweden in the

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Speaker 2: quarterfinal game and just suffocating them. That's gonna be the case.

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Speaker 2: And then some against Slovakia. They don't have the skill

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Speaker 2: that Sweden does to get through.

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Speaker 1: That unless the US comes out with too much ubrius

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Speaker 3: But I don't really hope not.

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Speaker 1: I think the US is so close to that rematch

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Speaker 2: And like you just said, with Canada kind of looking

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Speaker 3: They know that they can beat them, so they want

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Speaker 1: I hope Sid plays on Sunday because otherwise, Canada is

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Speaker 1: and it was harder to do without Sid on the ice,

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Speaker 3: You got like Tom Wilson, Brad Marshawn.

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Speaker 2: I think he let Aho Bullhm over wil just like

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Speaker 3: But they decided to pull off on that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that they made the right decision. But

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Speaker 3: But you know sid Is though.

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Speaker 1: I always cite game seven and nine at Detroit, when

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Speaker 2: That's why I think It's funny that people are kind

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Speaker 2: because in that circumstance mark he started the game, yeah,

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Speaker 2: exactly where he dressed, got hurt, but he was dressed

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Speaker 3: He didn't play.

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Speaker 1: But but I mean, I mean, Sid know could could

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Speaker 2: Yet, No, he wouldn't want to be a mascot. Absolutely,

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Speaker 2: he would say. He would say, no, we're better served

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Speaker 2: to have Sam Bennan in the lineup than me. It

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Speaker 1: I gotta be honest, Sid with a leg missing, would

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Speaker 1: Sam benn is a good NHL player, But that's to

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Speaker 1: me where it ends. Uh McDavid with two apples on

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Speaker 1: the day, but Celebrini had the primary helper on the

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Speaker 1: game winning goal Nate Dogg scored that.

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Speaker 3: Celebrini is the MVP of the tournament so.

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Speaker 2: Far, no doubt, Like McDavid was supposed to be the

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Speaker 2: identity of Team Canada, like no question about it. And

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Speaker 2: win this gold medal be McDavid's gold. It won't be

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Speaker 2: even if Sid doesn't come back. Celebrini has really been

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Speaker 3: My buddy Riz, that works for a pet Prossan. He's

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Speaker 1: In fact, Riz is now on his way probably listening.

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Speaker 1: Celebrini like bullied him into going. Celebrity goes, Riz, you

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Speaker 3: Uh, you know what is.

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Speaker 1: Gonna hurt Canada against well anybody in the final. Uh, well,

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Speaker 1: if they played Slovakia, I can't imagine that game. Boy,

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Speaker 3: But Canada's defense ain't good.

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Speaker 1: Uh, they should have took Bouchard and Schaefer instead of

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Speaker 4: Uh.

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Speaker 2: They get penned in the zone like Finland had them

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Speaker 2: about it. And what you were saying about how Slovakia

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Speaker 2: when Finland was up to nothing, Like you get that

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Speaker 2: would ruin our Sunday mornings like it would just USA

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Speaker 2: versus Finland just would not have the same buzz for it.

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Speaker 1: I'm running a charity ball hockey tournament, tom My, Sunday

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Speaker 3: And Liverpool are on the road at Forrest too. How

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Speaker 1: I like, I can't watch Liverpool because where I'm at

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Speaker 1: a Bridgeville Hockey Plex to run this tournament for the

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Speaker 1: Lemux Foundation. Everybody gonna want the gold medal game. But

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Speaker 1: it's at the same time as Liverpool and Forrest.

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Speaker 2: You gotta get one little TV on, right, I'll probably

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Speaker 2: take my laptop. Yeah, probably, You're right about the defense

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Speaker 2: that with Canada, like that's the the ultimate vulnerability with them.

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Speaker 2: Bennington isn't great, but he's the big game goalie and

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Speaker 2: he'll make some big saves. But he's having to make

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Speaker 1: He wasn't at fault for you to the goal today

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Speaker 2: I want to crush him because he's so bad in

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Speaker 2: the regular season right now for the Blues and be like, ah,

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Speaker 2: he's the weak link. He's not the blueser just blas

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Speaker 2: a bad defense in front of him.

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Speaker 1: Now too, Well, No, he's got he's not better defense,

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Speaker 1: not the defense they should have. And like, I'm sorry

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Speaker 1: if Celebriny can play like this at nineteen Matthew Shaeffer

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Speaker 2: Oh, and that would have been such a great story

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Speaker 2: Shaeffer and Celebrini out there together for them.

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Speaker 1: Now, I don't want to talk much about the report.

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Speaker 1: Cam's gonna gripe about his contract again, except to wish

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Speaker 1: he would just go away.

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Speaker 3: It's just too much.

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Speaker 1: And all you marks out there, you rubes, you revere

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Speaker 1: this guy who has won playoff win in fifteen years

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Speaker 1: and bitches all the time. He's made almost one hundred

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Speaker 1: and fifty mil total, and he bitches about money all

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Speaker 2: And it's just once again a spot where the Steelers

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Speaker 2: it wouldn't be smart, it wouldn't be good business to

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Speaker 2: renegotiate this contract based on how he played last year.

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Speaker 2: He's playing on a bargain for you, and there's no

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Speaker 1: Well, I'm sure Tim Bens when he joins me at

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Speaker 3: But but I mean, he's thirty six.

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Speaker 1: I think last year that All Pro season was a

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Speaker 1: last gasp, but not a new beginning.

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Speaker 3: But they'll give in because they always give in.

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Speaker 1: And you know why Cam might play hardball Tom because

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Speaker 1: he's in the last year of his deal coming up,

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Speaker 1: last year they gave him the old Oakie Doak that

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Speaker 1: led to nothing tangible because he didn't reach those bonuses.

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Speaker 1: So he's going to feel he got screwed then, But

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Speaker 1: he screwed himself when he signed a contract that he

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Speaker 1: now regrets.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he did.

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Speaker 2: And I think the other leverage point that Cam has.

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Speaker 2: I don't think he's going to be a second team

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Speaker 2: All Pro again next year and the odds are that

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Speaker 1: See, i'd't even like, well, well, here's what I would do,

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Speaker 3: Them, well that's why I'd eliminated.

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Speaker 2: I'm not pissed off there's a DH, but I did

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Speaker 1: Like that?

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Speaker 3: You want to entertain here?

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Speaker 2: Now, I found entertaining when the pitcher came up and

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Speaker 2: Yes, that a guy who couldn't hit came up in

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Speaker 1: Yeah, especially in one hundred and sixty two games, playing

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Speaker 1: We are in a fast food society where we want

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Speaker 1: Sports shouldn't be any different. Sports should take that into account.

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Speaker 1: And one thing no sports should do is cling to

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Speaker 1: what purest want or what the record book dictates.

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Speaker 3: Neither matter.

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Speaker 2: And as far as people saying like, oh, well it's

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Speaker 2: just automatic, then that you know, you score your bunt

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Speaker 2: guy over, that's not automatic. And it's very exciting to

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Speaker 2: watch your team get out of that that automatically starts

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Speaker 2: the extra inning and then come up to the plate

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Speaker 2: with your guy already on second. Like, I think it's

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Speaker 2: a really good touch that MLB did, and I agree

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Speaker 2: with you. I wouldn't hate it in the playoffs. They'll

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Speaker 2: never do it in the playoffs.

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Speaker 1: You know what I mean about the DH though, Like

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Speaker 1: like Keith Olberman, all these years later, you bring it up,

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Speaker 1: he treats like it's a holsess his mind about it.

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Speaker 3: The DH. Yeah, that's the thing.

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Speaker 2: Like I said, I like the wrinkle of the picture,

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Speaker 2: but I do not, you know, draw my line in

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Speaker 2: the sand like they ruin baseball.

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Speaker 3: Because now there's a DH in both leagues.

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Speaker 2: They found plenty of other ways to ruin Baseball one

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Speaker 3: Today with his son Rob Pierce as.

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Speaker 1: So, I gotta admit I don't really want either team

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Speaker 1: to win the gold medal of it's US Canada in

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Speaker 1: the final. I think both teams are pretty unlikable. A

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Speaker 1: lot of upris really full of themselves.

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Speaker 2: Well without SID, I mean, there's just a lot of

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Speaker 2: enemies for Penguins fans on both tea.

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Speaker 3: I said that earlier. I'm watching.

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Speaker 1: I missed the third period of the game because I

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Speaker 1: was stuck in traffic in Bridgeville.

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Speaker 3: Why is there traffic in Bridgeville? There's nothing in Bridgeville.

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Speaker 1: But I the first two periods, I'm like, what, I

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Speaker 1: don't like Canada without Sid.

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Speaker 2: I know, there's just a lot of unlikable players there

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Speaker 2: if you're a Penguin fan. And then for Team USA,

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Speaker 2: I think there's a lot of the same there. There's

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Speaker 2: a lot of players there that has root for your

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Speaker 2: club team that He's like, I just don't like you

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Speaker 2: guys very much.

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Speaker 3: Pause.

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Speaker 2: I'd like to see pursued and McMillan get pissed off

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Speaker 2: those who are bleeding leaning into it.

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Speaker 3: So is west Sjulebert. Do you see me at the

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Speaker 3: us A jersey all the time? He's had the us

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Speaker 3: A jersey on in the building these past couple of weeks.

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Speaker 3: I just I don't like the fake patriotism.

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Speaker 2: We've talked about that repeated, Yes we have, and again

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Speaker 2: we we've agreed on this. It's just we want the

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Speaker 2: club team back. We want the Penguins to be playing.

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Speaker 2: They're on a roll and that's what we're missing right now.

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Speaker 1: Uh, we got to play this clip again. We played

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Speaker 1: it late yesterday in the show. We didn't see it

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Speaker 1: until the show was almost over. It's Jason McIntyre on

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Speaker 1: Fox and he's talking to Willie Kilowne, the X Steeler,

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Speaker 1: and MacIntyre basically accuses Ben of being racist because he

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Speaker 1: criticized Mike Tomlin.

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Speaker 3: Let's hear that, Willie.

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Speaker 6: Do you think there's a racial element to this Big

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Speaker 6: Ben Tomlin Porter, No, not, that's nonsense.

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Speaker 4: I know. I don't even know what that component would

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Speaker 4: be like. You would have to help me, I don't.

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Speaker 6: Even But Ben seems to be taking a lot of

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Speaker 6: shots at Tomlin on his way out the door, and

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Speaker 6: I'm just like, why Tomlin was beloved and then Big Ben.

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Speaker 6: I don't want to say he started it, you know whatever,

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Speaker 6: but he seemed to go after Tomlin a little bit

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Speaker 6: down the stretch. We need a new voice in the

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Speaker 6: locker room and unable to win postseason games, it just

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Speaker 6: felt weird Tomlin again, nobody goes after Tomlin.

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Speaker 4: I mean, the reason I'm confused about the racial component

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Speaker 4: because there's another person who's African American who's been very

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Speaker 4: vocal about Mike Tomlin.

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Speaker 3: And as James Harrison.

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Speaker 4: Right and so that's why I'm confuse with the statement. Nevertheless, man,

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Speaker 4: it's okay to have gripes about how you felt about

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Speaker 4: the great Mike Tomlin.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I won a big fan of the

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Speaker 1: great Mike Tomlin. But I mean, actually, I have been

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Speaker 1: accused of racism for icizing coach t But I thought

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Speaker 1: McIntyre was way out of line for what he said

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Speaker 1: about Ben. I think it was the lowest form of

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Speaker 1: race baiting. And thank god for Willy Cologne and how

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Speaker 1: he responded Tom Let's talk about Cologne first, because again

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Speaker 1: what McIntyre did, what he said was ridiculous, and Cologne

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Speaker 1: shut it right down, not once, but twice.

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Speaker 2: He was flabbergasted to at the initial he was almost speechless.

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Speaker 2: He was like, what what eracism?

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Speaker 3: What did you just say to me? It was better

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Speaker 3: on video because like his eyes popped.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and it just it was so dumb for McIntyre

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Speaker 2: to say that, I'm so glad that Willy Cologne didn't

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Speaker 2: do the thing where you kind of just you're on

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Speaker 2: the show with him, so you just kind of go like, oh, well.

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Speaker 3: Man, I don't know, I didn't really think about that.

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Speaker 3: He just hatard with Joey Port. Yeah, exactly.

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Speaker 2: He just shot it right down and basically without saying

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Speaker 2: Jason McIntyre, you're a big dummy, eluded that.

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Speaker 1: I loved Cologne, referencing James Harrison too.

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Speaker 3: Well. Harrison criticized tom Win too, and he's black.

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Speaker 1: Does that make If McIntyre would have been on his toes,

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Speaker 1: he would have said, well, Harrison's a trader to his race.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's a great reference to call right up

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Speaker 2: if you're Willie Cologne. And then the very last thing

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Speaker 2: that he said, where you're allowed to have gripes with

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Speaker 2: the great Mike Tomlin, because that's going back to what

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Speaker 2: McIntyre said now, like that's all that he listened was

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Speaker 2: just very fair inbounds gripes about how Mike Tomlin was

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Speaker 2: as a coach.

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Speaker 1: Where was McIntyre coming from, do you think because we've

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Speaker 1: heard any number of bad things said about Ben and

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Speaker 1: certainly in his life he's been guilty of some bad

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Speaker 1: judgment when he was younger, but he's never been linked

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Speaker 1: with races and this was kind of a first.

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Speaker 2: I just think that you see, you know, people race

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Speaker 2: bait like this in these forums and it goes viral

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Speaker 2: and it gets crazy attention. Maybe McIntyre saw some low

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Speaker 2: hanging fruit there where he was like, ooh black verst

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Speaker 2: White here, let's infuse that into the conversation. I don't

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Speaker 2: think anybody's done that yet.

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Speaker 1: E Beny and Ivory lived together in perfect harmony.

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Speaker 3: I think it goes beyond just race baiting.

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Speaker 1: I think it goes back to Tahoe and Millageville, Uh,

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Speaker 1: zero evidence but presumed guilty and the hate didn't go away.

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Speaker 1: And I think McIntyre kind of tapped into that, and

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Speaker 1: that's definitely true here in Pittsburgh and Porter dredged that up,

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Speaker 1: and what McIntyre said goes back to Porter.

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Speaker 3: It put Ben's name in the news. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, And to be honest with you, Fox should discipline

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Speaker 2: McIntyre over this.

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Speaker 3: They absolutely should.

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Speaker 2: It's it's egregious and a baseless claim and your evidence

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Speaker 2: that you presented in that sound bite, right just Fox

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Speaker 2: none of their outlets ever feature race never, They don't

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Speaker 2: do that, So they should really, you know, make sure

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Speaker 2: that we don't go down that slippery slope before Fox.

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Speaker 2: But for for real, like if this was normal, there

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Speaker 2: would be discipline there for him, because that's just absurd

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Speaker 2: and I know he fills in. I think he was

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Speaker 2: filling in for Coward at that point. If I was calling,

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Speaker 2: I would really think long and hard if I want

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Speaker 2: him sitting in that chair again.

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Speaker 1: Why is criticizing tom Win so off limits? Why is

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Speaker 1: his resume ignored the failure thereof, especially in the last

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Speaker 1: ten years.

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Speaker 2: I don't know, Like McIntyre said, oh, you're talking about

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Speaker 2: how he hasn't won a playoff game. He hasn't won

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Speaker 2: a playoff He can't win a playoff game. It's been

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Speaker 2: a decade since he's won a playoff game. I don't

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Speaker 2: know why that is being ignored as part of this

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Speaker 2: equation when they say, oh, the Steelers, they'll they'll wish

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Speaker 2: for the Tomlin days.

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Speaker 3: Now, I do know why that is.

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Speaker 1: Race He's the NFL's pre eminent black coach and thus

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Speaker 1: beyond criticism. Mike Tomlin is the most protected off limits

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Speaker 1: NFL coach ever ever, like immune to criticism Tony Dungee

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Speaker 1: before him, but not.

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Speaker 3: To this degree.

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Speaker 2: That's not a bad call at all, because, I mean,

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Speaker 2: you want to talk about one of the most heavily

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Speaker 2: criticized positions in all of sports, it's head coaches in

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Speaker 2: the NFL. I mean people want to fire them. People

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Speaker 2: are ultra critical of them. Look at Philadelphia with Sirianni Mark.

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Speaker 2: The guy's been in the super Bowl basically every other year,

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Speaker 2: and they want to fire him after every year that

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Speaker 2: they don't make the super Bowl, Like that just comes

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Speaker 2: with the territory. But with Tomlin, for the reason that

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Speaker 2: you just said, it never comes up that way. It

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Speaker 2: never goes that direction, at least not too much.

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Speaker 1: I hate to tap into cliched waters, but you kind

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Speaker 1: of get the feeling Aaron Rodgers ain't gonna play.

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Speaker 3: We hear more and more.

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Speaker 1: Then again, I don't trust anything we hear because Aaron

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Speaker 1: Rodgers keeps his own console. You never hear leaks from

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Speaker 1: his camp. In fact, I'm not even sure he has

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Speaker 1: a camp. So I don't trust anything that said about

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Speaker 1: him that projects.

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Speaker 3: His future exactly.

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Speaker 2: I'm super skeptical when I hear people be like, well,

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Speaker 2: I've talked to people that are close to Aaron Rodgers's circle.

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Speaker 3: Who is that?

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Speaker 2: Who are the people that you talk to that are

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Speaker 2: close to Aaron Rodgers' circle?

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Speaker 1: Nobody and nobody likes him. I mean, we don't even

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Speaker 1: know if he has a wife, if she really.

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Speaker 2: Exists, and this is what happened last year too, where

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Speaker 2: like the Rapp reports would be like, well, I'm hearing

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Speaker 2: from people that would know, but nobody knows. And that's

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Speaker 2: what Aaron Rodgers wants and that's how he likes it.

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Speaker 2: So he can watch these people kind of, you know,

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Speaker 2: flop on the deck like a fish out of water,

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Speaker 2: being like, well, i've heard that he doesn't want to

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Speaker 2: come back and play, and he's like, you haven't heard crap.

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Speaker 1: I think he would do himself a favor by not playing.

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Speaker 1: I thought he looked old and washed up last year.

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Speaker 1: I thought he put up some decent names and some

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Speaker 1: okay numbers based on God, but I think that's gonna

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Speaker 1: be that much harder to do a year later.

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Speaker 2: I think as far as last year's go, it could

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Speaker 2: be a lot worse. Like it was a very solid

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Speaker 2: last year for him. He won a division, he played

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Speaker 2: in a playoff game, and like you said, he had

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Speaker 2: some pretty good games, some pretty good Aaron Rodgers moments.

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Speaker 3: Here's the other thing.

662
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Speaker 1: About Aaron Rodgers, for all his character flaws, because I

663
00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:20,720
Speaker 1: think he's a total crack pot, but I think he's really.

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Speaker 3: Intelligent and since he is intelligent.

665
00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:25,920
Speaker 1: He has to look at that roster and no, there's

666
00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:29,080
Speaker 1: no way we're winning a super Bowl or even coming close.

667
00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:31,600
Speaker 3: So why would I want to do that? Again, that's

668
00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:32,920
Speaker 3: how I would be thinking if.

669
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Speaker 2: I were him, in terms of football intelligence, one hundred percent.

670
00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:37,120
Speaker 2: There's no doubt in my mind. He was the smartest

671
00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:39,960
Speaker 2: football guy in the building last year for the Steelers.

672
00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:41,840
Speaker 2: He would be the smartest football guy in the building

673
00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:44,320
Speaker 2: again this year for the Steelers. So yeah, he sees

674
00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:46,679
Speaker 2: the holes in the roster. Mark That's why part of

675
00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:48,359
Speaker 2: what he was holding out for last year was because

676
00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:49,960
Speaker 2: he looked at that Vikings roster and he was like,

677
00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:51,560
Speaker 2: I would much rather take that over.

678
00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:52,720
Speaker 3: That's something that can win.

679
00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:56,199
Speaker 2: You think there's any chance the Vikings want him with

680
00:27:56,320 --> 00:27:58,680
Speaker 2: the GM being gone and all this smoke about O'Connell,

681
00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:00,000
Speaker 2: didn't really think McCarthy was right.

682
00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:02,119
Speaker 3: Minuscule chance, But I don't think so.

683
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Speaker 1: Though, what if Justin Jefferson dictates, But then again, I

684
00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:08,440
Speaker 1: don't think Justin Jefferson would see Aaron Rodgers as the

685
00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:11,160
Speaker 1: answer either. I think that they're just gonna sit around

686
00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:13,480
Speaker 1: for a couple more years. Bemoaning not having kept Sam

687
00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:16,919
Speaker 1: Donald even franchising him for one year and then a second.

688
00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:19,280
Speaker 1: That's one thing people don't get when I have said

689
00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:23,639
Speaker 1: repeatedly I would not have given TJ. Watt that three

690
00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:26,000
Speaker 1: year extension. I would have franchised him, And people say, well,

691
00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:28,639
Speaker 1: what if he plays good, well, then you franchise him again.

692
00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:31,240
Speaker 1: You would have given him two years instead of three,

693
00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:34,479
Speaker 1: and much less money that the Steelers. I wrote that

694
00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:38,040
Speaker 1: column in the Trip about six grievous mistakes they've made

695
00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:42,800
Speaker 1: since twenty nineteen, including that Watt extension. Tom Not only

696
00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:47,040
Speaker 1: were those franchise altering errors each one of those six,

697
00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:50,479
Speaker 1: but I was against all of them before they happened.

698
00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:52,800
Speaker 3: I'm like, Notre Dames, you really are.

699
00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:55,640
Speaker 2: And the franchise tag thing with the Steelers, with everybody

700
00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:57,840
Speaker 2: really in the NFL mark like they don't use it enough.

701
00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:01,000
Speaker 2: Like this is a great chip that the front offices have,

702
00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:03,640
Speaker 2: and because players around the league just hate it and

703
00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:05,760
Speaker 2: make a big stink over it, they just never utilized it.

704
00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:07,440
Speaker 2: I think there's like two last year that were handed

705
00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:09,240
Speaker 2: out and then T. Higgins reached the long term deal. Anyway,

706
00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:10,880
Speaker 2: it used to be really weaponized.

707
00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:12,520
Speaker 3: It needs to be. It's a great weapon.

708
00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:15,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, and just they have it, but they won't

709
00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:18,400
Speaker 1: use it. But I think that's a softer breed of owner.

710
00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:18,840
Speaker 3: Like art.

711
00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:20,960
Speaker 1: The second has come along that just don't want their

712
00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:21,960
Speaker 1: players mad at them.

713
00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:24,320
Speaker 3: Is it Notre Damus? Yeah, it's Notre Damus.

714
00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:27,320
Speaker 1: I thought it was Negro Damus. No, it's not in

715
00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:29,200
Speaker 1: my case because I could never be half as funny

716
00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:29,960
Speaker 1: as Paul Mooney.

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Speaker 2: One oh five nine The X the only show weekday

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Speaker 1: UH, don't forget us play Slovakia today three ten and uh.

725
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Speaker 3: My show will be an informal watch party.

726
00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:57,680
Speaker 1: I'll be talking about the game and you can call

727
00:29:57,720 --> 00:29:59,000
Speaker 1: in and talk about the game.

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Speaker 4: Two.

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Speaker 1: Technically, I can't do play by play because we could

730
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Speaker 1: be sued by IOCHF NBC, but I don't think they're

731
00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:14,520
Speaker 1: keeping track that closely, so we'll see how that plays out.

732
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Speaker 1: But right now, it's time for the trifecta brutlast by

733
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Speaker 1: Danny's Pizza and Hogies, family owned and operated since nineteen sixty.

734
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Speaker 1: That's Danny's on Route eighty eight in Bethel Park.

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Speaker 3: Tom, what do we got? Today?

736
00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:28,160
Speaker 2: Is the first Friday of fish fry season March, and

737
00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:31,960
Speaker 2: I'm psyched. So I've got my three musts for fish fries.

738
00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:35,040
Speaker 2: Number three, for me, it's got to be the fish sandwich.

739
00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:37,800
Speaker 2: But the fish has to be much much bigger than

740
00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:41,320
Speaker 2: the bread. I'm talking like extremely on both sides of it.

741
00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:44,000
Speaker 1: I think for a fish fry to be a proper

742
00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:47,360
Speaker 1: fish fry, you have to have twice as much fish

743
00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:49,560
Speaker 1: as bread, to the point where you eat a fish

744
00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:51,800
Speaker 1: sandwich then have a piece of fish to eat on

745
00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:52,160
Speaker 1: the side.

746
00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:54,800
Speaker 3: Couldn't agree more. That's a huge must for this number two.

747
00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:58,080
Speaker 1: Let me can I throw in one disclaimer? Yes, one

748
00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:01,120
Speaker 1: thing that often disappoints about fish fries is the bread's

749
00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:03,160
Speaker 1: no good at stale or it's cheap.

750
00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:05,960
Speaker 2: But that's where if you have that big piece of fish,

751
00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:07,480
Speaker 2: if you get a stale piece of bread, it doesn't

752
00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:08,920
Speaker 2: ruin it for you because you still got that big

753
00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:09,600
Speaker 2: honkin piece.

754
00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:12,360
Speaker 1: Well, I'm sure you could imagine, Tom, that fried fish

755
00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:14,920
Speaker 1: is not on the Awaken one eighty plan. So if

756
00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:16,800
Speaker 1: I do veer from the plan, for a day to

757
00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:19,640
Speaker 1: get fish, which I will. I will just eat the

758
00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:23,280
Speaker 1: fish itself and forego the bread. But I do prefer

759
00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:24,640
Speaker 1: bread and good bread.

760
00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:27,200
Speaker 2: Number two for me, it's a side that you have

761
00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:29,000
Speaker 2: with your fish fry at dinner. There's a lot of

762
00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:30,280
Speaker 2: sides that you go with. I bet you this is

763
00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:31,920
Speaker 2: a little off the board for you. Mac and cheese.

764
00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:33,640
Speaker 2: Gotta have mac and cheese with my fish fry.

765
00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:35,040
Speaker 3: I like it.

766
00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:37,880
Speaker 1: I don't think it's necessarily indigenous to a fish fry.

767
00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:40,960
Speaker 2: Okay, very fair. I think the number one side gonna

768
00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:43,240
Speaker 2: be fries. Fries is good. What about Coleslaw?

769
00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:46,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, fries number one. I think that would be my

770
00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:47,560
Speaker 3: holy trinity.

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Speaker 2: If I were doing a trifecta of sides for a

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00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:51,080
Speaker 2: fish fry, I would have all three of those on

773
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Speaker 2: my plate.

774
00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:54,400
Speaker 1: Now, let me ask you this. When you indulge in

775
00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:56,560
Speaker 1: a fish fry, what do you put on the fish?

776
00:31:56,600 --> 00:31:57,480
Speaker 1: What do you put on the fries?

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00:31:57,520 --> 00:31:57,640
Speaker 5: Oh?

778
00:31:57,680 --> 00:31:59,280
Speaker 2: Well, that's the number one thing right here. The biggest

779
00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:00,920
Speaker 2: key to the fish sand which is the hot sauce.

780
00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:03,000
Speaker 2: You need to drown that thing in some hot sauce.

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Speaker 3: Baby. I don't disagree with that at all.

782
00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:09,240
Speaker 1: Okay, but My traditional way of eating fish and fries

783
00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:12,880
Speaker 1: is the fish and chips method with salt and vinegar vinegar.

784
00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:14,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean that's the other thing.

785
00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:16,479
Speaker 1: To I don't feel like I should be doing that

786
00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:18,880
Speaker 1: for fish fry. And then I feel if I use

787
00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:21,520
Speaker 1: hot sauce with the fish, but salt and vinegar for

788
00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:24,800
Speaker 1: the fry. But I'm mixing my fish fry metaphors.

789
00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:27,400
Speaker 2: I don't hate the salt and vinegar on the plate

790
00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:29,120
Speaker 2: as well, though. You gotta have the hot sauce on

791
00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:31,600
Speaker 2: the fish for me though, and light tartar sauce. That's

792
00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:33,560
Speaker 2: not a must, Like I don't need the tartar sauce,

793
00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:35,720
Speaker 2: but I do I would like a light little spreading

794
00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:36,240
Speaker 2: on the bread.

795
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Speaker 3: Where's your favorite fish fry.

796
00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:41,240
Speaker 2: That's a really good question. I mean, the one that

797
00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:43,480
Speaker 2: I just gone through my entire life is Saint Bernard's Church.

798
00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:45,280
Speaker 2: That's where I went to free and go local.

799
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Speaker 1: The church I went to as a kid was Washington

800
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Speaker 1: Presbyterian on Perrysville Avenue, which later became later became Riverview Presbyterian,

801
00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:58,680
Speaker 1: but now it's closed down so I can't get the

802
00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:01,200
Speaker 1: fish there. That my favor for the best one that

803
00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:03,360
Speaker 1: I've ever been to anywhere. Is the Elks on the

804
00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:06,080
Speaker 1: North side and they jump me to the front of

805
00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:08,520
Speaker 1: the line because I'm a celebrity and I'm plugging them now,

806
00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:12,280
Speaker 1: even not for free fish. Those are all for good cause,

807
00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:14,280
Speaker 1: and I'll gladly pay. And I always think it I

808
00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:17,440
Speaker 1: leave a tip to but but I the plug should

809
00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:19,800
Speaker 1: get me to the front of the line. But their

810
00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:22,640
Speaker 1: line is they don't need me there. They're packed to

811
00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:25,280
Speaker 1: the gills. They sell a ton, so I'll be getting

812
00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:27,040
Speaker 1: there soon. The Elks on the north side.

813
00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:29,000
Speaker 3: And you know what, when I hear good things about

814
00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:30,440
Speaker 3: this is a bit off the beaten path.

815
00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:34,000
Speaker 1: But out uh way out Babcock kind of like North

816
00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:38,800
Speaker 1: parky Uh. There's a technical school called Baity Tech and

817
00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:41,120
Speaker 1: they do a fish fry and supposedly legendary.

818
00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:42,520
Speaker 3: Sounds great already.

819
00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:45,040
Speaker 2: You gotta just be at that school environment kind of

820
00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:46,640
Speaker 2: like that school cafeteria environment.

821
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Speaker 3: Almost where you get served.

822
00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:50,280
Speaker 2: They give it to you in the styrofoam like little

823
00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:52,440
Speaker 2: containers like to go left things and then just pack

824
00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:52,920
Speaker 2: to the gills.

825
00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:54,200
Speaker 3: You can barely close it. Now.

826
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Speaker 1: There are some places that have fish all the time,

827
00:33:57,480 --> 00:33:59,920
Speaker 1: like like the fish and chips at Piper's Pub. I'm

828
00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:01,480
Speaker 1: I've been there in a bit, but on the South

829
00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:04,080
Speaker 1: Side it's very good. You nowhere else has has really

830
00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:07,480
Speaker 1: good fish and fries that you wouldn't necessarily expect. No,

831
00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:09,239
Speaker 1: I shouldn't say that because they have good food, but

832
00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:12,759
Speaker 1: it's eating Park. I could see that eating Parks fish

833
00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:13,399
Speaker 1: is really good.

834
00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:15,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, I could definitely see that.

835
00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:17,560
Speaker 2: You know who has a good fish sandwich, Permanni's Permanny's

836
00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:20,040
Speaker 2: Colossal Fish. You're talking about a fish sandwich that's like

837
00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:22,000
Speaker 2: the fish is two times bigger than the bread. Is

838
00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:25,480
Speaker 2: my favorite thing at the Colossal Fish, and I do

839
00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:27,520
Speaker 2: drenched that hot sauce and this is the season for

840
00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:28,120
Speaker 2: it right now.

841
00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:29,160
Speaker 3: Oh, I gotta get there.

842
00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:31,400
Speaker 1: But then again, wake in one eighty, Like there's not

843
00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:33,040
Speaker 1: a an a lounge for.

844
00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:33,920
Speaker 3: Permane's, believe it or not.

845
00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:35,719
Speaker 2: And it puts most of the sides on the fish

846
00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:37,520
Speaker 2: sandwich for you, with the cole slaw and the fries.

847
00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:38,919
Speaker 3: Yeah.

848
00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:41,680
Speaker 1: You know, people get castigated for taking their fries off

849
00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:42,800
Speaker 1: the primandy sandwich.

850
00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:46,480
Speaker 3: I don't do it, but I understand, but.

851
00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:47,879
Speaker 2: It's clear that you don't do it right. You don't

852
00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:49,640
Speaker 2: want anybody think that you take the fries off. You

853
00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:51,400
Speaker 2: know what I do take off? Well, I ask for

854
00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:53,680
Speaker 2: white coal slaw. I think that's okay.

855
00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:55,800
Speaker 1: I don't want it dripping with coal slaw. As a

856
00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:57,120
Speaker 1: lot of Primandi sandwiches doue.

857
00:34:57,200 --> 00:35:00,239
Speaker 2: The only thing, well, one thing about Primanny's is a

858
00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:01,320
Speaker 2: criticism by any means.

859
00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:06,120
Speaker 1: Their preparation of their sandwiches is not uniform. Like if

860
00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:09,160
Speaker 1: you go to the Priman's in the Strip, the original, yeah,

861
00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:12,360
Speaker 1: you will get a sandwich that is the same in

862
00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:15,520
Speaker 1: terms of ingredients, but in different proportion to say the

863
00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:18,399
Speaker 1: Primanne's in Harmerville or the Primann's right down the hill

864
00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:19,120
Speaker 1: here in Bridgeville.

865
00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:21,680
Speaker 2: More fries here, most less coal saw there. Yeah, there's

866
00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:23,839
Speaker 2: nothing wrong with that. But there's some places like Big

867
00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:28,440
Speaker 2: Shot Bobs. Their wings are exactly the same, every uniform

868
00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:29,759
Speaker 2: and they have so many locations.

869
00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:31,719
Speaker 3: Yeah. The only thing I would take off of permane.

870
00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:35,000
Speaker 2: Sandwich caliente slice on Broadway everywhere you go. Peach is

871
00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:38,000
Speaker 2: the same everywhere. The tomato That's not easy to do.

872
00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:40,240
Speaker 2: Only thing I take off my permane is sandwich sometimes

873
00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:42,360
Speaker 2: is the tomato slice. Sometimes I just don't feel like

874
00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:43,759
Speaker 2: dealing with that, so I'll take that off. But other

875
00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:45,880
Speaker 2: than that, I'm a Coleslaw fries guy. All the hot

876
00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:47,160
Speaker 2: sauce put an egg on it a lot of the

877
00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:47,560
Speaker 2: time too.

878
00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:49,799
Speaker 3: How often will you go to it? Not on fish? No,

879
00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:51,719
Speaker 3: the fish one does not get the egg. How often

880
00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:53,600
Speaker 3: will you go to a fish fry? During what I'll

881
00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:54,600
Speaker 3: probably go to this year?

882
00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:57,040
Speaker 2: This season, I definitely need to at least get it

883
00:35:57,120 --> 00:35:58,960
Speaker 2: one time, like get a nice big fish sandwich and

884
00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:00,600
Speaker 2: a healthy serving a fish fry.

885
00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:01,680
Speaker 3: But nice.

886
00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:03,000
Speaker 2: I need to go to the Elks, and I need

887
00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:04,839
Speaker 2: to go to I'm gonna try Baity Tech because I've.

888
00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:05,120
Speaker 3: Heard a lot.

889
00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:06,839
Speaker 2: I mean, you got about like a month and a half,

890
00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:08,799
Speaker 2: you got like five or six fridays here to do it.

891
00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:12,440
Speaker 3: You know what's the fish sandwich at Get Go? Oh?

892
00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:13,560
Speaker 3: The whale of a cod? Right?

893
00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:16,240
Speaker 2: Is that what it's called. I think that's eating part.

894
00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:19,760
Speaker 2: Whatever it is, it's pretty good. Get Go does those states?

895
00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:21,480
Speaker 1: And by the way, I they used to invite me

896
00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:23,680
Speaker 1: to the to the new product eat off with Mikey

897
00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:24,320
Speaker 1: and Big Bob.

898
00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:27,160
Speaker 3: They haven't in a while, so screw get Go.

899
00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:31,239
Speaker 1: But but but and I and I will take well,

900
00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:34,040
Speaker 1: I mean they're not I mean they haven't, but uh,

901
00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:36,920
Speaker 1: they do good with stuff like that, the seasonal stuff

902
00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:38,520
Speaker 1: like the Pilgrim.

903
00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:40,560
Speaker 2: The Pilgrim's Elite from Get Go. I don't see a

904
00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:42,560
Speaker 2: name for the Get Go fish sandwich. It didn't come up,

905
00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:45,000
Speaker 2: you know, as a quick one. The captain, that's what it's.

906
00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:48,439
Speaker 2: Captain of a cod is uh? I think that park?

907
00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:52,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, well we've certainly plugged enough for one day.

908
00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:52,719
Speaker 3: One five