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Speaker 3: Now, and I know our guys are excited to get

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Speaker 3: to work on the field this week and we'll be

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Speaker 3: ready to roll when we hit the Lamba. There's really

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Speaker 3: just one update, you know. Jonathan Garnard will work off

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Speaker 3: to the you know, off to the side today and

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Speaker 3: we'll update you guys on kind of where he's at

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Speaker 3: moving into tomorrow and Friday, and then Ryan Kelly would

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Speaker 3: be a full participant.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Just on Michael Parsons, how have you seen them.

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Speaker 4: Use him from just the different positions and different types

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Speaker 4: of ways that they put them up front.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he's lining up everywhere on first and second down.

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Speaker 5: He'll be you know, he'll be on both sides.

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Speaker 3: He'll move around sometimes within a drive, so you really

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Speaker 3: can't have like an exact beat on where he's gonna be.

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Speaker 3: And really the important part of that is, you know,

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Speaker 3: whatever side he lines up on, Rashan Gary lines up

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Speaker 5: So it's it's a it's obviously a focal.

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Speaker 3: Point and something we've got to be aware of to

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Speaker 3: then on third down he could be rushing inside, he

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Speaker 3: could be lined up, you know, off the ball.

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Speaker 5: You've got to be ready and prepare.

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Speaker 3: Schematically is one thing, but then you know, all five

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Speaker 3: from a standpoint of their alignments. So it's definitely something

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Speaker 6: He thought about Jordi Walls development over the years.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think you know, the things that jump out

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Speaker 3: We're really what what I always thought, you know, when

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Speaker 5: And then what I think he's really found.

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Speaker 3: Is is a really good fit in Matt's offense of

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Speaker 3: their explosive they They've they've got a very deep receiving

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Speaker 3: they've really made a really, you know, pretty interesting transition

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Speaker 3: So it's it's it's one of those things where you're

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Speaker 3: playing out the snap from there, Kevin.

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Speaker 4: With JJ's mechanics specifically, sometimes they've seen kind of the

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Speaker 5: The location seems to be better.

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Speaker 3: The friendliness of throwing more runners balls for guys, for

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Speaker 3: And I think it's I think there's a middle ground

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Speaker 5: Easy to to simulate those things and put it in

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Speaker 3: Yeah, all of our team periods, you know, the rush

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Speaker 3: You know, they're getting hit in those messy product pockets

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Speaker 3: a messy pocket doesn't necessarily mean it's a broken pocket.

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Speaker 5: So I think it's much more.

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Speaker 6: I mean, I know you can't just talk it up

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Speaker 5: So we're trying to do a little bit more of that.

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Speaker 3: We're coaching every single day and our guys are some

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Speaker 5: You know, it's just been a matter of when we

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Speaker 3: You know, there was a there was a couple of

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Speaker 5: You just got to keep creating those ops.

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Speaker 3: I showed the team example of us doing that today

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Speaker 1: Did you go into this kind of exhaust for full

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Speaker 1: twenty one days or prepared that if things go on?

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Speaker 5: So?

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Speaker 3: I think the plan more more so than the twenty

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Speaker 5: The day is.

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Speaker 7: All in the Family from the nineteen seventies Norman Lear

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Speaker 7: Let's and so we start putting an effort against these

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Speaker 1: There's a Berrero length question. So feel free to eat

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Speaker 1: Mike Florio prop pro pro football Talk, pro football Talk.

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Speaker 1: I think pro football is max, pro football Talks dot

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Speaker 2: He has to fill airtime I think TV time and.

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Speaker 7: He also I think he's a writer as well for

441
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Speaker 7: profocaball weekly, so he has to fill space as a

442
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Speaker 7: Ninkstate wretch. Let's just for argument's sake, say McCarthy gets

443
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Speaker 7: a little bit better this week against Green Bay. By

444
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Speaker 7: the end of the season, he's really he's doing really well.

445
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Speaker 2: He's got all three throws that Brady talks about.

446
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Speaker 7: He's got the he's got the silver bullet, he's got

447
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Speaker 7: a little touch pass, and he's got the other come

448
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Speaker 7: whateveryone that is. So he's let's say he has all

449
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Speaker 7: the passes and they win some games.

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Speaker 2: Well, then it's all a mute point. We're not talking

451
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Speaker 2: about mac Jones.

452
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Speaker 7: We're not talking about Gardner Minshew, we're not talking talking

453
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Speaker 7: about Aaron Rodgers, and we're not talking about Kyler Murray.

454
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Speaker 7: We're talking about Hey, JJ made some real strides. Looks

455
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Speaker 7: like we have our guy. So now if McCarthy, Now,

456
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Speaker 7: if you want to say, if McCarthy continues to play

457
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Speaker 7: the way he's playing and really shows very little progress,

458
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Speaker 7: if any, well then yeah, I'm all for doing what

459
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Speaker 7: San Francisco did when they saw Trey Lance didn't have it,

460
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Speaker 7: they moved on. I'm sure it was tough for them

461
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Speaker 7: to do that, for everything they gave up for him, But.

462
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Speaker 2: The league doesn't wait.

463
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Speaker 7: You got to move, and so if you're otherwise, you

464
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Speaker 7: spin your wheels. We talked about it last segment, or

465
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Speaker 7: maybe the segment before. I mean I have talked about

466
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Speaker 7: it for years. If you keep trying with the quarterback

467
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Speaker 7: for several years, you can lose half a decade just

468
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Speaker 7: gone where your team gets nothing accomplished. And then we'll

469
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Speaker 7: go back to the quotes from is it Phillips is

470
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Speaker 7: our offensive coordinator.

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Speaker 5: Right.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, remember I read the quote from him.

473
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Speaker 7: That's look, we can't just keep doing what's good for

474
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Speaker 7: the young quarterback. We have to do what's good for

475
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Speaker 7: everybody with the team. And so what's good for the

476
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Speaker 7: team is you can't sit with a for the friend.

477
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Speaker 7: You can't just sit with one quarterback. We talked about Lawrence.

478
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Speaker 7: Look at how long they're taking with him, and that

479
00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:17,080
Speaker 7: team isn't any better now than it was when he

480
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Speaker 7: first started with the club. I don't think so.

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Speaker 1: I thought a great quote from Seyffert, and I'm paraphrasing

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Speaker 1: the quote. He was saying, how like the Vikings are

483
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Speaker 1: kind of in two alignments here. One is try to

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Speaker 1: get to a big game. The other is develop your quarterback.

485
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Speaker 1: And he said the two are cannibalizing each other. Yeah,

486
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Speaker 1: the quarterback is preventing you from getting to the big game,

487
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Speaker 1: and trying to get to the big game is preventing

488
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Speaker 1: maybe development from your quarterback.

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Speaker 7: Because even a accomplished quarterback with this team might be

490
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Speaker 7: haven't just as much trouble, you know, as far as

491
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Speaker 7: winning and losing, right, because we've seen some of the

492
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Speaker 7: greatest quarterbacks of all time. I've never won a big

493
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Speaker 7: game or even gotten their team to a big game.

494
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Speaker 7: So yeah, so I think there is some true to that.

495
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Speaker 7: So I yeah, I now that we're in the air

496
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Speaker 7: the point it look let us be realistic here. The

497
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Speaker 7: chances of the Vikings even qualify for postseason play, they're not.

498
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Speaker 2: Real good right now. So now is the time to.

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Speaker 7: And again, like Phillips said, like I've mentioned this a

500
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Speaker 7: couple of times myself before, before the Phillips thing.

501
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Speaker 2: Before Phillips said it, you have to.

502
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Speaker 7: Worry about the rest of the players on the team

503
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Speaker 7: and the franchise and the coaching staff and everybody else

504
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Speaker 7: is involved. But now that it looks like it's you're

505
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Speaker 7: still trying to win games, which you are trying to

506
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Speaker 7: win them now for sure by.

507
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Speaker 2: Developing the quarterback to see what you've got.

508
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Speaker 7: If he doesn't make any strides, I'm all for bringing

509
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Speaker 7: somebody else in. We don't have that time now could

510
00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:47,639
Speaker 7: come back to haunt you. He could get cut, go

511
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Speaker 7: somewhere like Donald, right, Donald was cast aside by a

512
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Speaker 7: couple of other clubs. We signed next thing. You know,

513
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Speaker 7: he's playing as good as any quarterback in the league.

514
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Speaker 7: So I have a solution for j j.

515
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Speaker 2: McCurry. That would be for the offense trips right.

516
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Speaker 1: Just put all three wide receivers on the right side

517
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Speaker 1: of the field, don't even worry about the left side.

518
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Speaker 1: And then every once in a while, if they're gonna

519
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Speaker 1: start overplaying the right, then you do the old statue

520
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Speaker 1: of liberty play where you fake the pass of your

521
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Speaker 1: trips right and you hand it off Aaron Jones, who

522
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Speaker 1: now goes down the left side, sweeps it on the

523
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Speaker 1: left side where nobody.

524
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Speaker 2: Or the quarterback does the naked boot lake. Yeah, I

525
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Speaker 2: love the naked boot leke. Just play everything on the

526
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Speaker 2: right side. Just do your trips over there. I don't

527
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Speaker 2: know that I don't have a problem. Question number three.

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Speaker 8: It's time now for it's a low down in Dinkie Town.

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Speaker 1: The Gophers men's basketball team trailed by two points with

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Speaker 1: seven to fifty one remaining, but did rally for a

531
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Speaker 1: sixty six to fifty four winner Chicago late.

532
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Speaker 7: I'm thinking Takeago Wake because if the Beachchago Lakes, remember that,

533
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Speaker 7: that would be that's a senior high school.

534
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Speaker 2: That would be very that would be just Chicago State.

535
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Speaker 1: Last night at William's Arena, kay Tyson scored twenty two points.

536
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Speaker 1: Jalen Crocker Johnson added fifteen, Isaaca Zuma added fourteen. Common

537
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Speaker 1: what sticks out to you, and the Gophers win even

538
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Speaker 1: though they struggled for I called.

539
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Speaker 7: Chicago Lakes high school basketball games back when I was

540
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Speaker 7: working at the Forest Lake Radio station, Chicago Lake and

541
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Speaker 7: Forest Lake with the two schools that we covered intently,

542
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Speaker 7: and so I did a lot of their games. I

543
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Speaker 7: think it's gonna be a long year. I mean, Chicago State,

544
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Speaker 7: I read the pre the you know, the pregame story.

545
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Speaker 2: Did I read it right?

546
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Speaker 7: Were they like one in sixteen? Last year four eighteen

547
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Speaker 7: or something? I mean, they're just not any good.

548
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Speaker 1: I mean they're back when they just struggled with the

549
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Speaker 1: Wisconsin Green exactly. And so I think the University of

550
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Speaker 1: Saint Thomas beat by eighteen.

551
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Speaker 5: Yeah.

552
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Speaker 2: Now it is.

553
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Speaker 7: A bunch of new players that have never played together, right,

554
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Speaker 7: I mean, these guys are just from I.

555
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Speaker 2: Mean, that's all college basketball. Though. I don't even think

556
00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:55,480
Speaker 2: these guys know.

557
00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:57,920
Speaker 7: They're probably still not even familiar with the first names

558
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Speaker 7: of every guy in the team.

559
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Speaker 2: So there's gonna be a little unfamiliarity.

560
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Speaker 7: But as you mentioned, that's the way a lot of

561
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Speaker 7: teams are, but I think this one even more so.

562
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Speaker 7: I mean, I think a lot of the established teams

563
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Speaker 7: bringing one or two guys. We have I think only

564
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Speaker 7: two players from last year's team, So there's going to

565
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Speaker 7: be some growing pains. But I would think even with

566
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Speaker 7: growing pains, a big eighteen school shouldn't.

567
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Speaker 2: Have the struggles.

568
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Speaker 7: So they won the game, so you know, it's better

569
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Speaker 7: to win than lose. But it could be a long season.

570
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Speaker 7: I'm a I hope for the best. I would love

571
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Speaker 7: You've heard me say it so many times. I'd love

572
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Speaker 7: for the local five to be really good because I

573
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Speaker 7: go back to that and run in ninety seven, and

574
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Speaker 7: there were a couple of other seasons leading up to

575
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Speaker 7: ninety seven where the goalverers made little bit, you know,

576
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Speaker 7: some mini runs in the NCAA tournament.

577
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Speaker 2: I'm not mistaken.

578
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Speaker 8: So and that's it for today's edition of five Questions.

579
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Speaker 8: Well actually three questions, but five sounds like more than four.

580
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Speaker 7: Rock Talk is next, and inside the body of Rock

581
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Speaker 7: Talk will have Rockreck, Rock Creck, Rock Creck, that and

582
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Speaker 7: so much more.

583
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Speaker 2: I'm a gon On program on the van.

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Speaker 1: It's a wild Wednesday here on KFN and we're taking

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587
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588
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Speaker 2: It's time now for rock talk a little early today.

595
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Speaker 2: It's all radio business related.

596
00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:05,920
Speaker 7: It's just our top of the hour break is very long,

597
00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:08,320
Speaker 7: and so we thought come into a little shorty here,

598
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Speaker 7: a little set the table, and then go into it after.

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Speaker 2: The bottom of the hour break.

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Speaker 9: You know, I mean, I did this for a very

601
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Speaker 9: very long time, and you're at the whims of a

602
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Speaker 9: lot of other forces, and so you just have to

603
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Speaker 9: be the show in between the business.

604
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Speaker 7: And as I think it was, I don't remember what

605
00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:27,520
Speaker 7: number album it was, but Van Morrison did an album

606
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Speaker 7: called Roll with the Punches yep.

607
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Speaker 2: So that's what we do, is we just roll with

608
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Speaker 2: the punches. Exactly. Good to see you. I asked you

609
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Speaker 2: when you walked in the door.

610
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Speaker 7: If you had ever heard of I forget his first name,

611
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Speaker 7: Todd Snyder, and you said you had. You didn't go deep,

612
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Speaker 7: but you knew of him, had heard his music. I'd

613
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Speaker 7: never heard him before until his untimely death. Apparently he

614
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Speaker 7: was on tour, he was jumped and assaulted in Utah,

615
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Speaker 7: and then he he died, and it's still mysterious.

616
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Speaker 2: They say he died of pneumonia. I'm not sure exactly

617
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Speaker 2: how it all went down. He was jumped on this

618
00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:05,280
Speaker 2: most recent tour, That's what I see.

619
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Speaker 3: I know.

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Speaker 9: I hadn't heard that detail. I no, no, I'm sure

621
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Speaker 9: that's probably it. I just I again, Todd Snyder. You know,

622
00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:15,600
Speaker 9: being around music as much as I am, you hear

623
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Speaker 9: a ton of names, and you hear sort of the

624
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Speaker 9: reverence with which people speak those names. But I couldn't

625
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Speaker 9: name a song off the top of my head if

626
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Speaker 9: I had to, you know. So I don't know, but

627
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Speaker 9: I'm aware of I know of him by reputation, as

628
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Speaker 9: they say, and among music aficionados and among musicians themselves,

629
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Speaker 9: Todd Snyder is one of those great American singer songwriters

630
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Speaker 9: who not in the same vein, not like in the

631
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Speaker 9: old school country vein. But like how Guy Clark, everybody

632
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Speaker 9: loves Guy Clark and covered his music, but he was

633
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Speaker 9: not a household name. I'd say Todd Snyder sort of

634
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Speaker 9: is that same template, where he is deeply revered among

635
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Speaker 9: the music community and among diehards who found him so Yeah,

636
00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:56,880
Speaker 9: cult figure, as you described before we went on the air,

637
00:30:57,440 --> 00:30:58,960
Speaker 9: is exactly what Todd Snyder was.

638
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Speaker 7: This month, Schnyder canceled the remaining dates of a tour

639
00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:05,920
Speaker 7: in support of his latest album, High Lonesome, and then

640
00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:09,240
Speaker 7: some after he was involved in an assault outside his

641
00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:11,400
Speaker 7: hotel in Salt Lake City, where he had been scheduled

642
00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:14,320
Speaker 7: to perform WOW. A statement posted to his social media

643
00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:16,960
Speaker 7: account on November third said the singer had sustained quote

644
00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:20,200
Speaker 7: severe injuries and that he would be unable to perform

645
00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:23,680
Speaker 7: for an undetermined amount of time. Additional details of the

646
00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:28,600
Speaker 7: assault were unclear, so but then said he died of pneumonia.

647
00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:31,880
Speaker 7: So did he get pneumonia from? Did he get collapse

648
00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:33,719
Speaker 7: lungs in the bed? I don't even know how that all.

649
00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:34,760
Speaker 2: I have no idea.

650
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Speaker 9: The only thing I really know about Todd Snyder is

651
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Speaker 9: that one of the reasons that he sort of relegated

652
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Speaker 9: to cult status. And something that might have gotten in

653
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Speaker 9: the way of him being better known is he lead

654
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Speaker 9: led troubled life. He was a troubled individual. Some of

655
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Speaker 9: that substance, some of that mental health just he was

656
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Speaker 9: sort of a loose cannon and made it in some

657
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Speaker 9: people's descriptions, made him difficult to work with, limited his

658
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Speaker 9: ability to tour consistently and do that sort of thing.

659
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Speaker 9: But even among you know, detractors, everyone recognizes that he

660
00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:06,400
Speaker 9: was a brilliant singer songwriter.

661
00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:09,600
Speaker 7: This story from the New York Times says mister Stider

662
00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:13,320
Speaker 7: never reached the level of recognition of John Prime, Jerry

663
00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:16,640
Speaker 7: Jeff Walker, Chris Christofferson, and Jimmy Buffett, all of whom

664
00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:20,280
Speaker 7: either mentored or influenced him. But his brand of alt

665
00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:24,800
Speaker 7: rock American up here with raggedy stoner inflected storytelling that

666
00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:27,840
Speaker 7: displayed in a cerbic wit and a stude eye for

667
00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:31,360
Speaker 7: the tail and virtuo so comedic timing endeared him to

668
00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:32,160
Speaker 7: as many fans.

669
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Speaker 2: I took not necessarily a deep I've never.

670
00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:34,800
Speaker 5: Heard of it.

671
00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:37,600
Speaker 7: Yeah, and he is he's clever, he mean, he's folk singer.

672
00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:39,640
Speaker 7: He plays acoustic guitar by himself.

673
00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:42,080
Speaker 9: He's got a strong streak of John Prime, and yes,

674
00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:43,880
Speaker 9: does he writes those those.

675
00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:46,719
Speaker 2: Clever, witty lyrics, you know, he he he how did

676
00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:48,440
Speaker 2: he write? One of his songs was.

677
00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:54,080
Speaker 7: Sing me a train songs? I got a one track

678
00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:55,800
Speaker 7: mind or something like that. So he do a lot

679
00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:58,080
Speaker 7: of those play on words and stuff and he and yeah,

680
00:32:58,120 --> 00:33:00,680
Speaker 7: I like that. I mean, it's it's it's I've always

681
00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:02,360
Speaker 7: been attracted.

682
00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:05,280
Speaker 2: To those quirky singer songwriter type.

683
00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:08,800
Speaker 7: Artist, but I'd never quite frankly, I had never heard

684
00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:10,880
Speaker 7: of Todd Snighter before, and I think I all spend

685
00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:14,920
Speaker 7: part of this weekend listening to some of his listening

686
00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:16,000
Speaker 7: to some of his music.

687
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Speaker 9: I will too, because John Prine and Jerry Jeff Walker

688
00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:21,000
Speaker 9: are two of my very, very favorites, and I got

689
00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:23,200
Speaker 9: my love of both of them from my dad growing up.

690
00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:25,680
Speaker 9: You know, as a teenager in Coon Rapids in the eighties,

691
00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:27,720
Speaker 9: you're not really that's not really ground zero for your

692
00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:30,120
Speaker 9: musical taste, but it was always on. It was always

693
00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:32,880
Speaker 9: my dad always picked that stuff out. And I have

694
00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:35,000
Speaker 9: a deep and abiding love for both of them, and

695
00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:36,600
Speaker 9: so yeah, I would like to spend a little more

696
00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:40,240
Speaker 9: time myself with the Todd Snyder catalog, because you know,

697
00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:42,600
Speaker 9: if he's being mentioned in the same breath, that's obviously

698
00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:43,280
Speaker 9: pretty solid.

699
00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:45,400
Speaker 7: Are you familiar with a Little Feet? I know, a

700
00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:47,320
Speaker 7: you're familiar with them, but are you a fan? They're

701
00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:50,320
Speaker 7: announcing their Fairwell, everybody's got a farewell tour. Let's think

702
00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:50,600
Speaker 7: about it.

703
00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:51,440
Speaker 2: They we're still working.

704
00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:53,479
Speaker 9: Little Feet has been a band for what more than

705
00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:55,600
Speaker 9: fifty years now, or at least fifty years.

706
00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:57,240
Speaker 2: They've been around so long. They're not little bit.

707
00:33:57,280 --> 00:34:01,520
Speaker 9: They have big feet exactly, Thank you, tired old trusty feet. Yes, yeah,

708
00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:04,720
Speaker 9: Lowell George and the songwriter. Again, this is another band

709
00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:07,760
Speaker 9: that I mean, everyone's heard some of their songs, oh

710
00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:11,400
Speaker 9: one or two of their songs for sure, but they're not,

711
00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:14,759
Speaker 9: you know, superstars in that regard, but somehow still had

712
00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:16,720
Speaker 9: a band, yes, a fifty year.

713
00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:18,120
Speaker 2: Career and Lowell George.

714
00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:20,359
Speaker 9: You know, people talk about him with the same kind

715
00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:24,000
Speaker 9: of hushed reverence that they do about Oh, I don't know,

716
00:34:24,160 --> 00:34:26,960
Speaker 9: Levon Helm from the band, right, or Robbie Robertson from

717
00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:27,319
Speaker 9: the band.

718
00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:28,600
Speaker 2: I mean this one of these.

719
00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:31,560
Speaker 9: Truly incredible artists and the whole band around him were

720
00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:34,680
Speaker 9: also excellent players. But yeah, if you're if you're looking

721
00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:36,960
Speaker 9: for like for me, Little Feet was always sort of

722
00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:39,759
Speaker 9: like The Grateful Dead, if you took out all the

723
00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:41,680
Speaker 9: hippie dippiness of it and just kept the rest of

724
00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:45,239
Speaker 9: the groovy rock band in there. Yeah, Little Feat's a

725
00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:47,200
Speaker 9: good band. Again, I don't go deep on Little Feet.

726
00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:49,360
Speaker 9: I was never a super fan, but I'm not so

727
00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:51,600
Speaker 9: They've been at it long enough that I'm surprised that

728
00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:53,880
Speaker 9: they're actually still kind of kicking it around and doing it.

729
00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:57,520
Speaker 7: Someone says, I've lived tonight over thirty years. You will

730
00:34:57,560 --> 00:34:59,799
Speaker 7: not be wasting your time delving into his ca.

731
00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:02,719
Speaker 9: That make I mean, that's what everybody talks about him,

732
00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:05,160
Speaker 9: like you, and so I've always only ever heard good

733
00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:07,280
Speaker 9: things other than some of his personal foibles.

734
00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:09,880
Speaker 2: But musically, yeah, I mean, he's supposed to be as

735
00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:10,480
Speaker 2: good as a guest.

736
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Speaker 7: Before we go to break, you said you had a

737
00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:13,840
Speaker 7: couple of things. What are those things we can tease

738
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Speaker 7: the break and dive into you have a couple of times.

739
00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:17,120
Speaker 7: I've got a couple of them for you.

740
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Speaker 9: So obviously Thanksgiving Day, in addition to all the face stuffing,

741
00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:23,839
Speaker 9: is all about football, right, And I've got a list

742
00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:26,200
Speaker 9: of some of the huge halftime shows that are going

743
00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:28,719
Speaker 9: to be happening at some of the major marquee Thanksgiving

744
00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:32,840
Speaker 9: Day games. Also, the Cambridge Dictionary has come out with

745
00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:35,719
Speaker 9: its Word of the Year, and right at the crosshairs

746
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Speaker 9: of this brand new Word of the Year for twenty

747
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Speaker 9: twenty five, Travis Kelcey and Taylor Swett No, so.

748
00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:43,399
Speaker 7: We got a little music football do go to We'll

749
00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:44,920
Speaker 7: do that on the other side of the break, that's right,

750
00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:47,480
Speaker 7: and then we'll have rock Rank, Rock Rank, Rock Rank,

751
00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:50,120
Speaker 7: So we'll do that more rock talk on the side

752
00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:52,600
Speaker 7: of the break, and then the legendary Mark rosen.

753
00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:53,480
Speaker 2: Nud joins us just before too.

754
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Speaker 1: Right here on the family, it's the Black Friday tradition.

755
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756
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757
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758
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760
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761
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Speaker 2: I mean, it's like hello, go thirteen fourteen past. I'm common.

762
00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:07,759
Speaker 7: He's tending to be Brian Okus here rock Talk and

763
00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:09,120
Speaker 7: then rock ranking a little bit.

764
00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:13,080
Speaker 2: So now what's this about halftime show?

765
00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:13,640
Speaker 6: Yeah?

766
00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:18,200
Speaker 9: So obviously Thanksgiving Day is especially for people who are

767
00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:21,080
Speaker 9: fans of the Grum. Yes, it's about food and family,

768
00:37:21,160 --> 00:37:23,440
Speaker 9: but let's be honest, most of us watch more than

769
00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:25,280
Speaker 9: a little football on Thanksgiving.

770
00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:28,920
Speaker 7: Right, Since nineteen thirty four or thirty five in Detroit

771
00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:31,400
Speaker 7: have hosted a Thanksgiving Day game, much to the charrinam

772
00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:31,799
Speaker 7: many fans.

773
00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:33,680
Speaker 2: They think they should spread it around, but Detroit gets

774
00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:35,400
Speaker 2: it all the time. Right, and they're having a special

775
00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:37,120
Speaker 2: halftime show. I think correct they are.

776
00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:39,680
Speaker 9: But think before we even get into that, think about

777
00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:42,319
Speaker 9: how many years the one of the I don't need

778
00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:44,960
Speaker 9: to tell you for sure, but just how terrible the

779
00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:48,120
Speaker 9: Lions were for so many years, terrible fans and forced

780
00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:52,240
Speaker 9: to play on a national stage every Thanksgiving for decades,

781
00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:54,920
Speaker 9: they were just awful. So I almost, although it's hard

782
00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:57,600
Speaker 9: for me to say a good word about the Honolulu Blue,

783
00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:01,000
Speaker 9: I'm almost happy for them that they're now enjoying this

784
00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:04,480
Speaker 9: wonderful renaissance and get that stage. But yeah, so three

785
00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:06,800
Speaker 9: big games that day, each one of them has a

786
00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:11,200
Speaker 9: pretty significant halftime show, and in your hometown of Detroit.

787
00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:15,960
Speaker 9: That is Jack White Detroit's favorite rock and roll son,

788
00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:20,319
Speaker 9: you know, since probably Iggy Pop your favorite by far. Yeah,

789
00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:22,719
Speaker 9: I mean, you know, later on here with rock Rank,

790
00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:25,440
Speaker 9: we're going to be talking about some of the biggest

791
00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:29,000
Speaker 9: artists of twenty era, of the two thousands, and for me,

792
00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:31,759
Speaker 9: he's absolutely in my top five of that list. You know,

793
00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:33,920
Speaker 9: he was the White Stripes most famously, but the rack

794
00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:38,440
Speaker 9: On tours, his lengthy solo career. Now, I he is brilliant,

795
00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:40,839
Speaker 9: able to command a big stage. I've traveled to see

796
00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:42,960
Speaker 9: him before. I just think he's one of the best

797
00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:45,520
Speaker 9: things going in American music for the last twenty five years.

798
00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:48,319
Speaker 9: And also, I mean, Detroit should be proud of this guy.

799
00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:54,279
Speaker 9: He is maintaining the crazy rock insanity mentality that that

800
00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:57,000
Speaker 9: city's always embraced and embodied and some of the great

801
00:38:57,080 --> 00:38:58,919
Speaker 9: rock bands ever have come out of that city.

802
00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:00,600
Speaker 2: And he's another in the long list.

803
00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:04,120
Speaker 7: Because you said Jack White's one of your favorite from Detroit, yeah,

804
00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:07,120
Speaker 7: and I thought, well, I'm wondering how many other famous

805
00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:09,600
Speaker 7: musical artists came from because I know Detroit has been

806
00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:12,120
Speaker 7: has had a rich history there so many I.

807
00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:15,480
Speaker 2: Dial up famous musicians from Detroit. Listen to this list

808
00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:15,920
Speaker 2: hit me.

809
00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:20,480
Speaker 7: Aretha Franklin, Stevie Wonder, Eminem, White, Stripes, Tempts, Jack White,

810
00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:25,440
Speaker 7: Smokey Robinson, The Supremes, MC five, Bob Seger, Barry Gordy,

811
00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:28,960
Speaker 7: Ted Nugent, Kid, Rock four Tops, Diana Ross, Anita Baker,

812
00:39:29,239 --> 00:39:31,120
Speaker 7: Susie Quatro, Martha and the Van Dellas.

813
00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:31,840
Speaker 2: Do I need to go on?

814
00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:32,160
Speaker 5: No?

815
00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:34,919
Speaker 9: I mean his name after If you cut that list

816
00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:38,920
Speaker 9: in half, that's still legendary exact. Detroit has always been

817
00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:43,800
Speaker 9: this northern hub of amazing musical excellence. And what I

818
00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:46,560
Speaker 9: love about that list you just shared, it's everything. It's

819
00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:48,880
Speaker 9: not just an R and B city. It's not just

820
00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:51,799
Speaker 9: a rock and roll city. It's in everything city. There

821
00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:54,160
Speaker 9: is a vibrancy there especially, and it comes out in

822
00:39:54,239 --> 00:39:56,640
Speaker 9: the music. You know, good times are bad times in Detroit.

823
00:39:57,160 --> 00:40:00,759
Speaker 9: That is That's always been a major American destined for music.

824
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Speaker 1: Also, speaking of the halftime show, do you guys see

825
00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:06,560
Speaker 1: that Eminem and his his manager are now basically consultants

826
00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:08,640
Speaker 1: for the Detroit Lions on that halftime show They've been hired.

827
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:10,560
Speaker 2: That makes sense.

828
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Speaker 9: I mean, you know, em is revered in Detroit even

829
00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:17,239
Speaker 9: more than Jack White, and Jack White's a beloved son,

830
00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:19,200
Speaker 9: So I think that's that's I'd love to hear that,

831
00:40:19,239 --> 00:40:22,000
Speaker 9: because that means interesting people will continue to get a

832
00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:25,000
Speaker 9: crack at that slot. Yeah, and do you know the

833
00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:26,840
Speaker 9: other show there you said, oh yeah, yah, yeah, So

834
00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:30,200
Speaker 9: I believe that's the first game and correct. And then

835
00:40:30,680 --> 00:40:33,919
Speaker 9: Little John, who you know, not really my style at all, Yeah,

836
00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:38,279
Speaker 9: Lil John or little John litl litl Lil John turned down,

837
00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:42,120
Speaker 9: turned down for what he will be performing, did I

838
00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:46,000
Speaker 9: just from the windows of the walls exactly. He'll be

839
00:40:46,120 --> 00:40:49,480
Speaker 9: doing the halftime show at the Ravens Bengals matchup and

840
00:40:49,600 --> 00:40:54,640
Speaker 9: then the Cowboys Chiefs game, which, Yeah, the headliner there

841
00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:57,239
Speaker 9: is during the halftime show is a guy that I've

842
00:40:57,320 --> 00:41:01,120
Speaker 9: always disregarded up until very recently and could also be

843
00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:03,040
Speaker 9: in the argument as one of the biggest artists of

844
00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:05,240
Speaker 9: the twenty first century post Malone.

845
00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:06,280
Speaker 2: Post Malone.

846
00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:09,520
Speaker 9: I think that I saw the cowboy hat, the facial tattoos,

847
00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:13,200
Speaker 9: and heard all the the auto tune vocorder stuff, and

848
00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:14,920
Speaker 9: I had made up my mind that this guy was

849
00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:19,120
Speaker 9: just some pop unlikely pop free, but he's crossed over

850
00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:21,160
Speaker 9: into so many genres and the other day I.

851
00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:23,759
Speaker 2: Was sitting country right, didn't win? Didn't he win? Like

852
00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:24,680
Speaker 2: a CMA award?

853
00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:25,160
Speaker 5: Exactly.

854
00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:28,080
Speaker 9: He's one of the guys that's helping inform new country

855
00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:31,560
Speaker 9: sound because if you listen now, yes they're still twaying,

856
00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:33,719
Speaker 9: and yes there's still stories of a pickup truck you

857
00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:38,320
Speaker 9: never owned, but there are the quality of pop production

858
00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:40,759
Speaker 9: hip hop beats making their way into a ton of

859
00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:41,440
Speaker 9: modern country.

860
00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:44,319
Speaker 7: One album of the Year correct much of the scrin

861
00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:46,680
Speaker 7: I think of a lot of country purists, well, of course.

862
00:41:46,600 --> 00:41:48,840
Speaker 9: You know, but so post Malone is really he's one

863
00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:51,160
Speaker 9: of the defining sounds there. But he also does it

864
00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:53,120
Speaker 9: in the pop world and in the hip hop world.

865
00:41:53,239 --> 00:41:55,440
Speaker 9: And I was sitting at a friend's house one day

866
00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:57,080
Speaker 9: and he had his Spotify on. You know, you pick

867
00:41:57,080 --> 00:41:59,160
Speaker 9: an artist and then they'll just pick adjacent stuff to that.

868
00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:02,520
Speaker 9: Literally every time that afternoon and evening, I'm like, hey,

869
00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:05,960
Speaker 9: this isn't bad. What's this post Malone postline that forced

870
00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:08,439
Speaker 9: me to readdress my understanding and go back and listen.

871
00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:10,360
Speaker 9: More so, he'll be doing halftime with the Cowboys.

872
00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:13,640
Speaker 7: Chief I brought his name up with Tennebe and Lilby

873
00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:16,120
Speaker 7: the other day, and I don't know how it came up.

874
00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:19,080
Speaker 7: But the only reason I know post Malone is because

875
00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:20,880
Speaker 7: my youngest boy played basketball.

876
00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:23,719
Speaker 2: Oh and post Malone has a song called White Iverson.

877
00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:32,120
Speaker 7: It's called White Iverson and it says, and we used

878
00:42:32,160 --> 00:42:34,799
Speaker 7: to douce and I to tease baby brother Peter.

879
00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:36,280
Speaker 2: We sing the chorus to him.

880
00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:40,800
Speaker 7: When I started ball and I was young, young And

881
00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:43,640
Speaker 7: then people say stop it, right because Pete started what

882
00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:45,680
Speaker 7: he was young and we were calling him white Iverson.

883
00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:46,200
Speaker 5: Nice.

884
00:42:46,360 --> 00:42:48,120
Speaker 9: But that was the song, and it's it's it. I

885
00:42:48,239 --> 00:42:50,880
Speaker 9: have to admit it's a catchy too. He knows what

886
00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:53,280
Speaker 9: he's doing. He's really good. He is a high quality

887
00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:55,960
Speaker 9: entertainer that's had a lot of success, a lot of influence.

888
00:42:56,480 --> 00:42:58,640
Speaker 9: And so yeah, no, he's a great halftime show for then,

889
00:42:59,040 --> 00:42:59,560
Speaker 9: So those are.

890
00:42:59,560 --> 00:43:01,080
Speaker 2: Your a halftime show?

891
00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:03,680
Speaker 9: I do have that. I've also got so this ties

892
00:43:03,760 --> 00:43:07,279
Speaker 9: in the literary world, the world of football, and the

893
00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:09,600
Speaker 9: highest end of the world of music, all in one

894
00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:13,840
Speaker 9: small nugget of a story. The Cambridge Dictionary has given

895
00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:16,000
Speaker 9: out their word of twenty twenty five.

896
00:43:16,080 --> 00:43:17,680
Speaker 2: Now, Cambridge, is it six seven?

897
00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:20,040
Speaker 9: It's not six seven, nor is it whatever you're the

898
00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:21,960
Speaker 9: bobbling you're doing with your hands right there.

899
00:43:21,880 --> 00:43:23,680
Speaker 2: I said, they do for six o the kids, oh

900
00:43:24,120 --> 00:43:25,960
Speaker 2: six seven, and they have to bobble your hands with it.

901
00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:27,920
Speaker 9: Well, I'm gonna be honest. When you do it, it

902
00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:29,480
Speaker 9: looks mid Oh does it mid?

903
00:43:29,920 --> 00:43:30,160
Speaker 5: Yeah?

904
00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:31,080
Speaker 2: At seven?

905
00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:33,120
Speaker 1: The hand signal is also what the referees doing the

906
00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:34,720
Speaker 1: ball's attempt to be thrown at Jordan.

907
00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:35,520
Speaker 2: Adison, they make that sign.

908
00:43:35,640 --> 00:43:35,839
Speaker 7: Oh.

909
00:43:36,840 --> 00:43:40,399
Speaker 9: Who did you used to call frying panhands? That's still

910
00:43:40,440 --> 00:43:43,400
Speaker 9: to my days? Was Troy Williams One of your my

911
00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:44,280
Speaker 9: favorite things.

912
00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:47,600
Speaker 2: Was Devin Young No, I think it was. He was

913
00:43:47,640 --> 00:43:48,880
Speaker 2: the feat one. Yeah, it was.

914
00:43:49,360 --> 00:43:51,279
Speaker 1: I tell it like it was like Tony Batista. There's

915
00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:52,880
Speaker 1: like a third basement for the Yeah twins.

916
00:43:53,080 --> 00:43:55,800
Speaker 2: Troy Williamson had I said he had cast iron skillets.

917
00:43:56,160 --> 00:43:58,160
Speaker 9: Yeah, I just I thought one time I heard you

918
00:43:58,200 --> 00:44:00,600
Speaker 9: say frying panhands, and I've I've just it makes me

919
00:44:00,680 --> 00:44:03,680
Speaker 9: giggle every time it pops up. Anyway, The twenty twenty

920
00:44:03,719 --> 00:44:05,759
Speaker 9: five word cambridge is a big deal. This is one

921
00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:08,279
Speaker 9: of the dictionaries, So it's news when they put out

922
00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:10,960
Speaker 9: a word, but even more when it intersects with the

923
00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:13,759
Speaker 9: world around us. So the twenty twenty five word of

924
00:44:13,800 --> 00:44:17,080
Speaker 9: the year according to Cambridge any idea what it might

925
00:44:17,120 --> 00:44:22,680
Speaker 9: be No, okay with music related, yes, you know, well

926
00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:26,600
Speaker 9: they're the ones that everyone's using. The example for the

927
00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:32,000
Speaker 9: word is parasocial. Parasocial means the connection that someone feels

928
00:44:32,040 --> 00:44:36,400
Speaker 9: between themselves and a famous person they do not know. Now,

929
00:44:36,440 --> 00:44:38,640
Speaker 9: I don't have to tell you about this, because you've

930
00:44:38,680 --> 00:44:40,920
Speaker 9: been the dream of the everyday housewife for how long.

931
00:44:41,040 --> 00:44:44,839
Speaker 9: Now they think they know more about you, and they've

932
00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:47,600
Speaker 9: developed this lopsided relationship with you because they hear you

933
00:44:47,719 --> 00:44:51,720
Speaker 9: every single day. They have an intimacy that doesn't actually exist,

934
00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:53,880
Speaker 9: but it is very very real inside their head and

935
00:44:53,920 --> 00:44:57,680
Speaker 9: their heart. That's what parasocial means. And so how Travis

936
00:44:57,840 --> 00:45:01,440
Speaker 9: and Taylor d brought this word to the forefront. This

937
00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:04,120
Speaker 9: word started getting used a lot more because so many

938
00:45:04,160 --> 00:45:09,120
Speaker 9: people have involved themselves or busied themselves with the excitements,

939
00:45:09,239 --> 00:45:12,880
Speaker 9: the romance, the drama, everything that's unfolded about you know,

940
00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:15,400
Speaker 9: two of the biggest stars in their chosen fields with

941
00:45:15,560 --> 00:45:19,200
Speaker 9: the romance of the year and all that. Many people, millions,

942
00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:23,360
Speaker 9: literally millions, many millions of people have a parasol social

943
00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:24,359
Speaker 9: relationship with them.

944
00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:27,320
Speaker 2: Well, maybe not to that extent.

945
00:45:27,640 --> 00:45:30,640
Speaker 9: But I mean, there are people listening right now who

946
00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:33,719
Speaker 9: think they know you, and they make a this is

947
00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:34,400
Speaker 9: a destination.

948
00:45:34,560 --> 00:45:36,880
Speaker 2: They come here every day and in doing.

949
00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:39,680
Speaker 9: So, even because I think they know more about you

950
00:45:40,280 --> 00:45:44,520
Speaker 9: than their average person knowing you're you know, than the

951
00:45:44,600 --> 00:45:46,920
Speaker 9: person sitting next to them. And there's an ownership there, right,

952
00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:51,320
Speaker 9: There's an investment and paris So parasocial is basically and

953
00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:53,480
Speaker 9: we all have it as well. There are people that

954
00:45:53,560 --> 00:45:56,239
Speaker 9: we follow along or pay attention to, whether it be

955
00:45:56,360 --> 00:45:59,200
Speaker 9: movie stars or writers or whatever the case may.

956
00:45:59,120 --> 00:46:01,800
Speaker 2: Be, physicians, chef musicians, from you as well. I'm a

957
00:46:01,800 --> 00:46:02,120
Speaker 2: big fan.

958
00:46:02,560 --> 00:46:05,319
Speaker 9: Between listening, you know, to their output, watching their work,

959
00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:08,440
Speaker 9: whatever the case may be, we develop this very lopsided,

960
00:46:08,520 --> 00:46:11,640
Speaker 9: not necessarily unhealthy relationship. As long as we don't try

961
00:46:11,680 --> 00:46:13,840
Speaker 9: to show up at their compound at some point and

962
00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:16,719
Speaker 9: say Hi, Taylor, you know, or anything like that, then

963
00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:19,719
Speaker 9: we've crossed the line. But parasocial word of the year,

964
00:46:20,160 --> 00:46:23,480
Speaker 9: and probably the primary example is the massive relationship that

965
00:46:23,719 --> 00:46:26,359
Speaker 9: a lot of strangers have with a very famous couple.

966
00:46:26,480 --> 00:46:28,680
Speaker 7: Well, this one says right here. It says from the

967
00:46:28,719 --> 00:46:31,840
Speaker 7: six five one says, common is my surrogate father. So

968
00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:39,440
Speaker 7: so there's proved positive right there. I'm a father as well.

969
00:46:39,480 --> 00:46:45,160
Speaker 7: Yeah yeah, yeah, this one says, did don't listen to

970
00:46:45,239 --> 00:46:48,960
Speaker 7: post Malone and Ozzie collaboration called take what you Want.

971
00:46:49,120 --> 00:46:50,360
Speaker 2: I did not know they worked together.

972
00:46:50,480 --> 00:46:53,960
Speaker 9: That's the post Malone has worked with everybody in every genre,

973
00:46:54,120 --> 00:46:55,080
Speaker 9: and so I was sort of.

974
00:46:55,320 --> 00:46:58,279
Speaker 7: It, says check out post on YouTube during COVID he

975
00:46:58,320 --> 00:47:00,800
Speaker 7: did a bunch of Neirvana songs mm hmm, and he

976
00:47:00,960 --> 00:47:02,760
Speaker 7: sounded just like Colbay.

977
00:47:02,960 --> 00:47:03,600
Speaker 2: That's what he says.

978
00:47:03,760 --> 00:47:06,960
Speaker 9: He can kind of do everything. And so I begrudgingly

979
00:47:07,080 --> 00:47:10,279
Speaker 9: gave him a listen, and well he doesn't skyrocket into

980
00:47:10,360 --> 00:47:13,520
Speaker 9: my very favorites of all time. His talk about the

981
00:47:13,640 --> 00:47:15,480
Speaker 9: prime example of you don't have to love him, but

982
00:47:15,520 --> 00:47:17,839
Speaker 9: you have to respect him. I think post Malone that's

983
00:47:18,040 --> 00:47:19,160
Speaker 9: very much how I look at him.

984
00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:21,239
Speaker 2: How about are we ready for a rock rank? I'm

985
00:47:21,280 --> 00:47:30,240
Speaker 2: ready rock CRK ROCKLNK Rock Rock Link Rock ra rockn.

986
00:47:31,719 --> 00:47:32,279
Speaker 5: Rock rank.

987
00:47:32,560 --> 00:47:34,880
Speaker 2: Post Malone could make an open like that, No, not

988
00:47:35,080 --> 00:47:37,759
Speaker 2: absolutely it. If he did, I don't even think he

989
00:47:37,840 --> 00:47:39,160
Speaker 2: saw like Kurt Cobay anyway.

990
00:47:39,640 --> 00:47:42,200
Speaker 1: Okay, you're about to maybe say some names that Common's

991
00:47:42,280 --> 00:47:43,680
Speaker 1: never even heard of, because I'm going to ask you

992
00:47:43,760 --> 00:47:48,239
Speaker 1: to name your top five favorite bands or artists after

993
00:47:48,360 --> 00:47:49,200
Speaker 1: the year two thousand.

994
00:47:49,239 --> 00:47:51,520
Speaker 9: Oh yeah, well but no, no, you're actually are going

995
00:47:51,600 --> 00:47:55,440
Speaker 9: to know all of these. To thin this out a

996
00:47:55,480 --> 00:47:57,080
Speaker 9: little bit and to spread it out a little bit,

997
00:47:57,160 --> 00:48:00,360
Speaker 9: because if this is such a giant, meaty question, I

998
00:48:00,440 --> 00:48:03,600
Speaker 9: took a little bit of artistic license tennant, and I'm

999
00:48:03,680 --> 00:48:05,560
Speaker 9: just gonna do artists today and maybe we can do

1000
00:48:05,719 --> 00:48:09,440
Speaker 9: bands next week. They're just there are so many ultra

1001
00:48:09,640 --> 00:48:14,120
Speaker 9: superstar diva types, both male and female, that there's too many.

1002
00:48:14,160 --> 00:48:16,479
Speaker 9: It muddies the conversation. So I thought, let's do solo

1003
00:48:16,600 --> 00:48:19,520
Speaker 9: artists or people we recognize as solo artists today, and

1004
00:48:19,600 --> 00:48:22,200
Speaker 9: then in a future episode of Rock Rank, we can

1005
00:48:23,200 --> 00:48:24,080
Speaker 9: knock down the bands.

1006
00:48:24,080 --> 00:48:29,279
Speaker 2: What is that next week? Nice just she is in

1007
00:48:29,400 --> 00:48:31,080
Speaker 2: fact on that list, but not yet.

1008
00:48:31,600 --> 00:48:33,279
Speaker 9: But now, and here's the thing, there are going to

1009
00:48:33,320 --> 00:48:35,560
Speaker 9: be so many artists that I can hear the argument

1010
00:48:35,640 --> 00:48:36,239
Speaker 9: that could be on.

1011
00:48:36,360 --> 00:48:36,520
Speaker 5: Here.

1012
00:48:36,800 --> 00:48:39,160
Speaker 9: These are my top five, though starting a number five.

1013
00:48:39,239 --> 00:48:43,360
Speaker 9: British singer songwriter Adorable Little unassuming Ginger from across the

1014
00:48:43,440 --> 00:48:46,719
Speaker 9: pond Ed Shearing comes in at number five. Really yes,

1015
00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:49,000
Speaker 9: now and here this and and hear me out in

1016
00:48:49,040 --> 00:48:51,319
Speaker 9: love with the shape of you way, that's a huge song,

1017
00:48:51,440 --> 00:48:53,920
Speaker 9: But early on he went somewhere between.

1018
00:48:53,719 --> 00:48:56,839
Speaker 2: A is he a sappy love song? He has those

1019
00:48:56,920 --> 00:48:57,239
Speaker 2: in him.

1020
00:48:57,320 --> 00:48:59,680
Speaker 9: Some of the biggest ones of all time are certainly

1021
00:48:59,680 --> 00:49:03,040
Speaker 9: of the twenty five years, But he's also capable of

1022
00:49:03,239 --> 00:49:05,040
Speaker 9: like what he started out when he was busking on

1023
00:49:05,160 --> 00:49:08,560
Speaker 9: the streets. He did this on the streets, busking when

1024
00:49:08,600 --> 00:49:12,080
Speaker 9: you b usk, when you well, so have you ever

1025
00:49:12,120 --> 00:49:15,000
Speaker 9: seen anybody playing on the street with their guitar case open?

1026
00:49:15,360 --> 00:49:17,360
Speaker 9: Busking is when you were just playing out in public

1027
00:49:17,480 --> 00:49:19,120
Speaker 9: for the whims of the public around him.

1028
00:49:19,160 --> 00:49:21,000
Speaker 2: That should be the word of the year, because I've

1029
00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:21,560
Speaker 2: remember busking.

1030
00:49:21,719 --> 00:49:23,759
Speaker 9: Well, I think busking's been a thing for about three

1031
00:49:23,840 --> 00:49:27,800
Speaker 9: hundred four hundred years, so I think that maybe longer

1032
00:49:27,840 --> 00:49:29,920
Speaker 9: than that. Actually never heard that, but no, So he

1033
00:49:30,000 --> 00:49:31,680
Speaker 9: started out that way, and he did this kind of

1034
00:49:31,760 --> 00:49:34,040
Speaker 9: cool acoustic meats hip hop thing.

1035
00:49:34,400 --> 00:49:36,160
Speaker 2: If you go back and look at.

1036
00:49:36,160 --> 00:49:40,120
Speaker 9: An early studio version of him doing this song before

1037
00:49:40,160 --> 00:49:43,399
Speaker 9: he was even kind of famous, called you need me man,

1038
00:49:43,520 --> 00:49:45,719
Speaker 9: I don't need you. You're gonna be blown away by

1039
00:49:45,760 --> 00:49:48,720
Speaker 9: how this young kid was able to just absolutely murder

1040
00:49:48,840 --> 00:49:50,520
Speaker 9: these words and he would do it live and make

1041
00:49:50,560 --> 00:49:54,239
Speaker 9: it longer every time. Anyway, he can do everything in

1042
00:49:54,360 --> 00:49:59,880
Speaker 9: the twenty tens the number one global live artists. Nobody

1043
00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:02,480
Speaker 9: sold more tickets or had bigger shows for a longer

1044
00:50:02,560 --> 00:50:05,920
Speaker 9: period of time in the twenty teens than Ed Sheeran.

1045
00:50:06,000 --> 00:50:07,759
Speaker 9: So right there, he's obviously made a name. But and

1046
00:50:07,880 --> 00:50:09,719
Speaker 9: so this is not only about his solo work there.

1047
00:50:09,920 --> 00:50:12,600
Speaker 9: He worked heart music festivals. We got that, right, So

1048
00:50:13,840 --> 00:50:14,280
Speaker 9: you go ahead.

1049
00:50:14,320 --> 00:50:16,479
Speaker 1: I was gonna saying I once saw like a clip

1050
00:50:16,560 --> 00:50:18,680
Speaker 1: of Ed Sheeran on one of those late night talk shows,

1051
00:50:19,320 --> 00:50:22,840
Speaker 1: and he was just kind of dispelling the myth of

1052
00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:26,000
Speaker 1: people saying, God, you have a god given talent. Yeah,

1053
00:50:26,080 --> 00:50:28,160
Speaker 1: so he like played it. He played a song of

1054
00:50:28,239 --> 00:50:30,560
Speaker 1: him singing when he was like a teenager, right, and

1055
00:50:30,680 --> 00:50:33,000
Speaker 1: he you know, he wasn't a great singer, no, And

1056
00:50:33,120 --> 00:50:35,640
Speaker 1: his point was like, this is not a god given talent.

1057
00:50:35,680 --> 00:50:37,000
Speaker 1: I had to put a lot of like people kind

1058
00:50:37,000 --> 00:50:38,800
Speaker 1: of discuss how much work because people have to put in.

1059
00:50:39,160 --> 00:50:42,600
Speaker 2: People say golf, I dug my game out of the ground. Yeah,

1060
00:50:43,280 --> 00:50:45,520
Speaker 2: very similar. I didn't just all of a sudden could

1061
00:50:45,600 --> 00:50:46,560
Speaker 2: hit great golf shots.

1062
00:50:46,640 --> 00:50:49,160
Speaker 9: And it's not just his solo career because his behind

1063
00:50:49,200 --> 00:50:52,920
Speaker 9: the scenes producing career and songwriting career. His songwriting with

1064
00:50:53,040 --> 00:50:56,200
Speaker 9: other artists has produced top ten hits in the not

1065
00:50:56,360 --> 00:51:01,160
Speaker 9: quite hundreds dozens, I would say it's hundreds, not quite there,

1066
00:51:01,239 --> 00:51:04,360
Speaker 9: but like specifically most famously with the band One Direction,

1067
00:51:04,560 --> 00:51:07,440
Speaker 9: who were the global force in the music universe for

1068
00:51:07,480 --> 00:51:10,040
Speaker 9: a couple of years, largely on songs that Ed Sheern

1069
00:51:10,080 --> 00:51:12,239
Speaker 9: had written. So he comes in at my number five

1070
00:51:12,360 --> 00:51:15,879
Speaker 9: biggest artists of the twenty first century, number four, number four.

1071
00:51:17,440 --> 00:51:21,400
Speaker 9: This is another British singer songwriter and it is the

1072
00:51:21,440 --> 00:51:25,120
Speaker 9: one that you mentioned first. It's Adele now Adele Whilst

1073
00:51:25,239 --> 00:51:28,040
Speaker 9: she's lost a little steam in recent years, when we

1074
00:51:28,120 --> 00:51:30,480
Speaker 9: have to look at the entire twenty five years, this

1075
00:51:30,680 --> 00:51:32,759
Speaker 9: is a time where the music industry had never been

1076
00:51:32,840 --> 00:51:35,120
Speaker 9: more imperiled. They had dug their heels in said they

1077
00:51:35,160 --> 00:51:37,239
Speaker 9: weren't going into the digital divide and they weren't going

1078
00:51:37,320 --> 00:51:39,279
Speaker 9: to do that. This is how we've always done it.

1079
00:51:39,280 --> 00:51:41,560
Speaker 9: And they wanted to gatekeep music in this sort of

1080
00:51:41,640 --> 00:51:44,640
Speaker 9: physical format. Well, that obviously didn't work. The walls came

1081
00:51:44,719 --> 00:51:47,880
Speaker 9: crashing down and the music industry really suffered. In the

1082
00:51:47,960 --> 00:51:51,840
Speaker 9: two thousand oughts into the teens every time, three times

1083
00:51:51,880 --> 00:51:53,560
Speaker 9: in a row, Adele put a record out.

1084
00:51:53,719 --> 00:51:54,640
Speaker 2: Every time she did it.

1085
00:51:54,760 --> 00:51:57,640
Speaker 9: She basically saved the music industry that year in terms

1086
00:51:57,680 --> 00:52:01,960
Speaker 9: of numbers, in terms of revenue. She was such a force,

1087
00:52:02,280 --> 00:52:06,080
Speaker 9: such an impact and the universality of her appeal. You know,

1088
00:52:06,280 --> 00:52:10,440
Speaker 9: little kids liked the Dell records and preteens and tweens,

1089
00:52:10,600 --> 00:52:12,759
Speaker 9: and I guess that was the same thing. But you

1090
00:52:12,840 --> 00:52:17,080
Speaker 9: know what I mean, literally every demo, every age group, grandma's, grandpa's,

1091
00:52:17,320 --> 00:52:20,520
Speaker 9: everybody loved a Dell, leading to those massive giant sales.

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Speaker 5: Uh.

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Speaker 9: And she just she is without question, and there wasn't

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00:52:24,880 --> 00:52:27,560
Speaker 9: really anyone like her before. You know, Amy Winehouse kind

1095
00:52:27,560 --> 00:52:29,319
Speaker 9: of set the table for doing this kind of old

1096
00:52:29,360 --> 00:52:32,800
Speaker 9: school stuff, and then Adele kicked that door down and

1097
00:52:33,040 --> 00:52:35,239
Speaker 9: it just became literally a global force.

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Speaker 7: I'm familiar with a handful of her songs and even

1099
00:52:37,719 --> 00:52:39,800
Speaker 7: better than this, and I like them their toe tapers,

1100
00:52:39,840 --> 00:52:41,680
Speaker 7: but even better than the songs and just her voice.

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Speaker 7: I mean, she could basically sing on top of old

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00:52:45,719 --> 00:52:48,000
Speaker 7: smokey and I would probably think it was a really I've.

1103
00:52:47,840 --> 00:52:50,840
Speaker 9: Heard her alive and she's magnificent. Yeah, I've seen big shows.

1104
00:52:50,920 --> 00:52:54,160
Speaker 9: We also had her in studio see twice. Oh, come on, huh.

1105
00:52:54,640 --> 00:52:56,719
Speaker 9: We were lucky, we were. That's not up to me

1106
00:52:56,800 --> 00:53:00,279
Speaker 9: and we know this the no. We call her on

1107
00:53:00,360 --> 00:53:02,440
Speaker 9: the way up at exactly the right time. And then

1108
00:53:02,600 --> 00:53:04,960
Speaker 9: because our support had been so ardent and we were

1109
00:53:05,160 --> 00:53:08,319
Speaker 9: very early adopters of Adele over at Cities ninety seven,

1110
00:53:08,920 --> 00:53:11,319
Speaker 9: we got her when she was gigantic one time too.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

1112
00:53:11,680 --> 00:53:14,759
Speaker 9: No, she's amazing. Number three, number three. This one's going

1113
00:53:14,800 --> 00:53:17,720
Speaker 9: to be a little closer to Tennis Wheelhouse. But without question,

1114
00:53:18,400 --> 00:53:21,439
Speaker 9: there has not been And people might argue that it's Drake,

1115
00:53:21,640 --> 00:53:24,799
Speaker 9: they might argue that it's jay Z. They might even

1116
00:53:24,840 --> 00:53:28,200
Speaker 9: say Usher would occupy this spot. But for me, the

1117
00:53:28,800 --> 00:53:32,800
Speaker 9: biggest name in hip hop in the last twenty five years,

1118
00:53:33,280 --> 00:53:36,319
Speaker 9: without question, is No. And other people would even argue

1119
00:53:36,360 --> 00:53:39,520
Speaker 9: Lil Wayne probably deserves to be here. But it's absolutely

1120
00:53:39,640 --> 00:53:42,440
Speaker 9: eminem coming out at number three. Boy said that not

1121
00:53:42,560 --> 00:53:44,880
Speaker 9: jay Z. No, come on, man, and I like jay

1122
00:53:44,960 --> 00:53:45,600
Speaker 9: Z quite a bit.

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00:53:46,040 --> 00:53:47,839
Speaker 7: I don't want an Amazon and that's the one where

1124
00:53:47,840 --> 00:53:50,719
Speaker 7: they have for the Chrysler commercials, dent d D D

1125
00:53:51,040 --> 00:53:52,920
Speaker 7: d D that's the only one I know.

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00:53:53,120 --> 00:53:56,080
Speaker 1: Well here he's right, Yeah, lose yourself. Yeah, losers, there's

1127
00:53:56,160 --> 00:53:58,520
Speaker 1: no better lyricists in the history of rapto. No no,

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00:53:58,800 --> 00:53:59,960
Speaker 1: I agree with you wholeheartedly.

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00:54:00,239 --> 00:54:02,840
Speaker 9: And he's so good that he's drawn the respects of

1130
00:54:02,920 --> 00:54:06,239
Speaker 9: even diehards, even the you know, the people are like, now, man,

1131
00:54:06,320 --> 00:54:08,080
Speaker 9: this is the music of black people. You can't do this,

1132
00:54:08,200 --> 00:54:11,200
Speaker 9: you know, even within the industry. He's so talented and

1133
00:54:11,400 --> 00:54:15,080
Speaker 9: such a wizard that everybody loves him, and the numbers

1134
00:54:15,120 --> 00:54:15,560
Speaker 9: back it up.

1135
00:54:15,640 --> 00:54:18,120
Speaker 2: I believe. Let me just confirm this super quick.

1136
00:54:18,560 --> 00:54:22,560
Speaker 9: I believe that M is the the record sales best

1137
00:54:22,880 --> 00:54:27,120
Speaker 9: selling artist of the twenty first century. Call based on yeah,

1138
00:54:27,320 --> 00:54:30,360
Speaker 9: M is the shortened version based on what's known as

1139
00:54:30,440 --> 00:54:35,080
Speaker 9: album sales equivalency, which means it's album sales, it's paid downloads,

1140
00:54:35,200 --> 00:54:37,520
Speaker 9: it's basically any way the music industry is still making

1141
00:54:37,560 --> 00:54:40,680
Speaker 9: money off the music. He is the number one selling

1142
00:54:40,880 --> 00:54:44,319
Speaker 9: artist of the twenty first century. Last twenty five two minutes,

1143
00:54:44,320 --> 00:54:46,520
Speaker 9: Brian Oh, okay, well, let's wrap that up up.

1144
00:54:46,960 --> 00:54:48,560
Speaker 2: Number two. Beyonce.

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00:54:48,840 --> 00:54:52,239
Speaker 9: Beyonce as far as divas, as far as numbers, as

1146
00:54:52,320 --> 00:54:55,000
Speaker 9: far as sales, as far as recognizability, as far as

1147
00:54:55,239 --> 00:54:59,359
Speaker 9: maintaining success and somehow still creating even more drama every

1148
00:54:59,440 --> 00:55:01,960
Speaker 9: time a new record's going to be coming out, focusing

1149
00:55:02,040 --> 00:55:04,480
Speaker 9: the entire world's attention on whatever it is she's up to.

1150
00:55:04,640 --> 00:55:08,600
Speaker 9: Next she comes in at number two, and she's really great.

1151
00:55:08,800 --> 00:55:12,120
Speaker 9: She can dance, she can sing, she's gorgeous, she's everything.

1152
00:55:12,360 --> 00:55:15,160
Speaker 9: I would say number two biggest of the twenty first century.

1153
00:55:15,600 --> 00:55:17,480
Speaker 9: And I don't think anyone's going to be surprised by

1154
00:55:17,480 --> 00:55:20,880
Speaker 9: the number one pick biggest Sift. It's absolutely Taylor Swift,

1155
00:55:21,000 --> 00:55:23,600
Speaker 9: and she's her favorite. I don't think it's even close. No,

1156
00:55:23,719 --> 00:55:26,239
Speaker 9: I'm not really going super favorite. I'm going, well, I

1157
00:55:26,320 --> 00:55:27,360
Speaker 9: wanted your favorite, but I.

1158
00:55:27,440 --> 00:55:27,880
Speaker 5: Do love her.

1159
00:55:28,000 --> 00:55:30,480
Speaker 2: No, because this is about the people. Man, No, it's

1160
00:55:30,520 --> 00:55:32,319
Speaker 2: about you. Oh well, I care more about you than

1161
00:55:32,360 --> 00:55:33,759
Speaker 2: the people. The next time I'll do it.

1162
00:55:33,800 --> 00:55:35,480
Speaker 9: Then you can erase all those because I'm not putting

1163
00:55:35,520 --> 00:55:37,080
Speaker 9: any of them in my top five.

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Speaker 2: Of the last twenty five years. But no, t Swift. Absolutely.

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00:55:40,200 --> 00:55:42,120
Speaker 9: Look I like all these artists that I played, some

1166
00:55:42,200 --> 00:55:45,040
Speaker 9: of them I even love, but Taylor Swift. It doesn't

1167
00:55:45,080 --> 00:55:47,120
Speaker 9: matter what metric you look at. We haven't seen a

1168
00:55:47,160 --> 00:55:50,319
Speaker 9: Taylor Swift since we've seen it. Elvis Presley I kind of.

1169
00:55:50,320 --> 00:55:53,600
Speaker 2: Like Chris Hockey Rocket fuad very good sauce in the Whalers.

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00:55:53,840 --> 00:55:57,440
Speaker 9: Yeah, they speak to me of the twenty fifth century

1171
00:55:57,520 --> 00:55:57,960
Speaker 9: Top five.

1172
00:55:58,040 --> 00:56:02,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, very much so. The Whaler's You got a podcast?

1173
00:56:02,360 --> 00:56:02,759
Speaker 2: I'm told?

1174
00:56:02,880 --> 00:56:03,319
Speaker 6: Is that true?

1175
00:56:03,400 --> 00:56:03,600
Speaker 3: I do?

1176
00:56:03,760 --> 00:56:06,879
Speaker 9: In fact, just celebrated six years. Just did episode five

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00:56:06,960 --> 00:56:09,640
Speaker 9: hundred and thirty one earlier today about an upcoming tribute

1178
00:56:09,680 --> 00:56:12,080
Speaker 9: to the Oh Brother Where Art Thou soundtrack which turns

1179
00:56:12,120 --> 00:56:15,520
Speaker 9: twenty five Yeah. The Brian Oakshow podcasts and you can

1180
00:56:15,560 --> 00:56:18,680
Speaker 9: get it wherever whenever you like, by utilizing the number

1181
00:56:18,760 --> 00:56:21,799
Speaker 9: one destination for podcasts. That would be the iHeartRadio app.

1182
00:56:21,840 --> 00:56:23,400
Speaker 2: Always good to see you. We'll see you next Wednesday?

1183
00:56:23,480 --> 00:56:25,239
Speaker 2: Quest sounds great? See you then for Brian Oak will

1184
00:56:25,239 --> 00:56:27,000
Speaker 7: Take a break, come back the legendary Mark Rose and

1185
00:56:27,080 --> 00:56:28,240
Speaker 7: joins us next day around the Fantom