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Speaker 1: The additional half a million dollars apparently includes and other costs.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Liam. I was waiting for that, Joe, Actually

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Speaker 1: Uh Purvol greased palm index. Thank you. Yesterday's meeting, Mayor

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Speaker 1: said the city is not purchasing the property for an arena.

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Speaker 1: The city is purchasing the property to put it under

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Speaker 1: He also said the city's interest is in this is

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Speaker 1: out county wide. Remember that thirty percent rollback that we

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Speaker 1: before we reprove the half sent sales tax to fund

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Speaker 1: Right Remember that. No, it wasn't including the ballot in language.

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Speaker 1: from County Commissioner Jeff Aaludo recommending a five million dollar

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Speaker 1: total rebate equal to not thirty percent, four point five

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Speaker 1: idio is maybe misapplied. If we had one that said

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Speaker 1: hundred thousand. That was the promise they made, you, Commissioner

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Speaker 1: go broke. Huh, thank you appreciate that, liar. There you go.

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Speaker 1: You know, actually I was going to a request shoe

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Speaker 1: Henry Rawlins, liar, that would have been an outstanding bump

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Speaker 1: to play before. But you know this was elected officials

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Speaker 1: you know how that goes, Joe. We are the embodiment

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Speaker 1: a different results. Jays on the phone, Jay, you'll be

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Speaker 1: a call, but.

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Speaker 4: Break back fifty five KRC.

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Speaker 1: It's five twenty nine, it's Thursday. I'm going to happy

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Speaker 1: hang on, Jay, guy ahead of you this morning, Jay,

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Speaker 1: thanks for calling this morning. Welcome to the Morning Show.

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Speaker 5: Hey, good morning, two days in a row in front

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Speaker 5: of Tom. Something's off. I'm going to have to delay

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Speaker 5: this call going.

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Speaker 1: Forward or call earlier. Either way, it's okay. Jay.

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Speaker 3: Hey.

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Speaker 5: Usually I call in and I'm complaining about the government

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Speaker 5: waste and abuse. But you know, this morning you were

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Speaker 5: talking about law enforcement tech, and I have a brainstorm

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Speaker 5: here of how we can save money across the Ohio

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Speaker 5: and Hamilton County and therefore free up some money for

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Speaker 5: Iris Rawley more of her consulting fees, or maybe another stadium.

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Speaker 5: I think what I have, Brian, is a solution where

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Speaker 5: we can take the cost of ankle monitors down substantially.

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Speaker 5: The ankle monitor, if I just did some quick research,

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Speaker 5: it costs about let's say forty I think it's aid

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Speaker 5: four hundred and fifty dollars a month for the service

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Speaker 5: fee to monitor these things. And let's say we have

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Speaker 5: about one hundred of them for a given locale. So

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Speaker 5: let's just let's say fifty thousand dollars for the city

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Speaker 5: of Cincinnati or something like that.

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Speaker 2: I have a solution.

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Speaker 5: The cost of fraction of that has it's just as

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Speaker 5: effective and monitoring what we currently have. And it looks

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Speaker 5: a lot like a shoelace that you just tie around

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Speaker 5: your leg. It's completely reusable, it's easy to take off.

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Speaker 6: The.

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Speaker 5: Criminal doesn't have to try to cut it off. And

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Speaker 5: again it's one hundred percent is effective. And we're thinking

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Speaker 5: maybe we just put that like Ohio official ankle monitor

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Speaker 5: on on that shoelace and tie that around the criminal's

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Speaker 5: leg and thereby free up about fifty grand for every

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Speaker 5: when you think about it. And again, one percent effective

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Speaker 5: as our current solution.

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Speaker 1: Your point being a shoelace, non technologically advanced shoelace, plain

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Speaker 1: old shoelace and a designated color is as effective as

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Speaker 1: the ankle monitors see Sarah Herringer correct.

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Speaker 5: And I would be even willing to just take that

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Speaker 5: maintenance fee down to two dollars a month collectable by Jay, and.

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Speaker 1: It's still a fat profit margin. Jay. Consider the cost

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Speaker 5: Well, you drive a tough bargain, Brian, So I'll cut

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Speaker 5: it in half one time only, we'll take it down

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Speaker 5: to a dollar a month. But I'm looking for a sponsor.

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Speaker 2: So if it could say fifty five KRC on that.

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Speaker 5: Shoelace sponsor, maybe I get my dollar back.

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Speaker 1: No, I just centered into another possibility. How about sponsoring

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Speaker 1: actual anchor ankle monitors and using the profit from these

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Speaker 1: sponsorships to actually have people monitoring the ankle bracelets.

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Speaker 5: Oh you mean privatize it to where there's a profit

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Speaker 5: involved in a private business that could actually do something.

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Speaker 1: Maybe that do that Axos company has a it's foot

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Speaker 1: in the door with taking that.

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Speaker 5: They call them ankle monitor monitors.

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Speaker 1: There you are.

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Speaker 2: I like it.

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Speaker 1: You're on the right track.

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Speaker 5: Hey, don't don't don't vote Democrat, don't vote Rhino.

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Speaker 1: Off the Tom off the top. Thanks Jay, Yes, as

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Speaker 1: this tradition. Tom, thanks for calling this morning. Appreciate appreciate

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Speaker 1: hearing from you.

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Speaker 6: In case no one got it, the absurdity was intentional

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Speaker 6: to point out another absurdity.

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Speaker 1: Oh indeed. Yeah, that's high comedy right.

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Speaker 6: There, right, no good stuff. I have no problem with

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Speaker 6: with Jay going in front of me and taking this

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Speaker 6: thank you. Very much. Jay, appreciate it. I I wanted

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Speaker 6: to talk about money being spent by the government. You

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Speaker 6: Another one that I was talking to Joe about was

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Speaker 1: Tom, I did not even know that that was still

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Speaker 6: So okay, right, well you can't. I don't think you

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Speaker 1: So the interior mall concept has been closed down, Jee

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Speaker 6: Yeah. Yeah, there was a there was a furniture store

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Speaker 6: taxpayer money. You go, we'll just kind of buy this.

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Speaker 6: You don't even have a plan. You don't know what

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Speaker 6: it's for. You can't even tell us that, hey, we've

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Speaker 6: it's just there's there's a big pot of money. Let's

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Speaker 6: able to ask for more next time, which which we

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Speaker 6: levees and and you know these budget requests at these

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Speaker 6: what whatever government level it is, we have to spend it.

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Speaker 6: That way, we can say, oh, we ran out, we

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Speaker 6: And it's it's a farce. What what happened to representing

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Speaker 6: but you know why, why why aren't we getting people

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Speaker 6: to a Yeah, you're not going to hold politicians to

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Speaker 6: something like that, you know, well, whenever a politician speaks,

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Speaker 6: you can just assume they're lying, especially if they're Democrat,

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Speaker 6: especially if they're Rhinos. So don't vote Rhino, don't vote Democrat.

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Speaker 6: Have a great day, a man, brother.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know, listen, get it in writing. This

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Speaker 1: consequence of this refusal over and over and over again

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Speaker 1: to give us what was promised verbally. Roll back. You

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Speaker 1: were entitled to thirty percent of it, baseball. Your politicians

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Speaker 1: told you why wasn't in in the ballid initiative? Maybe

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Speaker 1: for it. Let us be a valuable and to everyone

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Speaker 1: when we're considering these ballot initiatives, the promises made orally

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Speaker 1: thirty five fifty five KRCD talk station stack o stupid

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Speaker 1: or phone calls, either way you want to go, I'm

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Speaker 1: alright with That'd.

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Speaker 4: Be right back fifty five KRC.

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Speaker 1: Five thirty nine fifty five kr CD talk station Friday,

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Speaker 1: even the return of I Hurt Media abs expert Jay

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Speaker 1: Ratlife at eight thirty. I'm so happy he's back. God

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Speaker 1: bless you, Jay Rattliffe. We have a lot of guests

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Speaker 1: oh five, five one three, seven four nine fifty five hundred,

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Speaker 1: at and T phones. This is absolutely horrific and disgusting

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Speaker 1: and should be a giant red flag for all parents,

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Speaker 1: even parents of very young children who are attending school

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Speaker 1: and are apparently being taught by perverts, twisted, depraved individuals.

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Speaker 1: They may be at the head of the classroom. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: positions of power children involve. This has happened with members

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Speaker 1: of the clergy. You may recall incidents of that. We

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Speaker 1: got a Connecticut where a former what is described as

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Speaker 1: a paraprofessional teacher admitted to texting an eleven year old

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Speaker 1: boy almost five thousand times, handing him gifts including Apple AirPods,

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Speaker 1: and keeping him awake with caffeine because she was sexually

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Speaker 1: assaulting him when she arranged to meet with him in

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Speaker 1: late night hours. Forty four year old married mother of two,

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Speaker 1: Alison Krannik pleaded to go to the federal charges of

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Speaker 1: course and an enticement of a minor to engage in

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Speaker 1: sexual activity cour to the US Attorney's Office for the

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Speaker 1: District of Connecticut and announcement earlier this week. She lured

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Speaker 1: the child to meet up with her over a course

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Speaker 1: of several months in twenty twenty two, driving him around

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Speaker 1: at different locations where she then forced him to engage

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Speaker 1: in sexually explicit conduct with her. She was an admin

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Speaker 1: assistant with the E. O. Smith High School in Mansfield

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Speaker 1: until she was fired in September of twenty three. She

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Speaker 1: met with a boy at least fourteen times, some cases

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Speaker 1: with public school employee coercing the boy to sneak out

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Speaker 1: of his house after midnight. He's eleven, driving around Columbia

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Speaker 1: leg Corus Porter School in Columbia or the Salmon River

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Speaker 1: State forests, where she would sexually assault the miner in

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Speaker 1: her car when it was late at night. She would

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Speaker 1: buy caffeinated drinks for him to keep him awake and

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Speaker 1: ordered gifts for him and gave him gifts like Apple AirPods,

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Speaker 1: also a pellet gun, which is really appealing to an

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Speaker 1: eleven year old boy. Started messaging the boy over text

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Speaker 1: on Snapchat, then suggested they move over to the messaging

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Speaker 1: platform Discord. Why because she had learned that one of

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Speaker 1: the child's family members would check the youngster's messages. Huh,

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Speaker 1: as well as social media accounts. That's a responsible parent

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Speaker 1: doing the right thing. Sadly, there are options for the

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Speaker 1: weirdos out in the world, and they're aware of this

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Speaker 1: kind of thing, and they'll change platforms on you. So

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Speaker 1: there's another thing you need to be aware of, Mom

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Speaker 1: and dad. Between July and October of twenty two, she

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Speaker 1: and the boy messaged more than forty seven hundred times

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Speaker 1: on this discord platform. She even made the boy a bracelet.

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Speaker 1: This is how perverted and twisted she had. She made

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Speaker 1: him a bracelet with the acronym BB or BFFLWB best

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Speaker 1: Friends for Life with Benefits. Apparently, the preteen boy cut

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Speaker 1: off contact and refused to meet up with her after

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Speaker 1: she emotionally manipulated him into spending more time with her.

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Speaker 1: That's according to the warrant. They launched an investigation into

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Speaker 1: the sexual assault in September of twenty three. She was

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Speaker 1: arrested in November of that year. Federal charges handed down

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Speaker 1: in July of last year, case investigator of the FBI's

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Speaker 1: Child Exploitation Task Force as well as the Connecticut Police Department.

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Speaker 1: She is now facing and deserves, in my estimation, life

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Speaker 1: in prison with a mandatory minimum of ten years imprisonment.

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Speaker 1: Let's go for life February twelfth, next year sentencing.

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Speaker 7: EERI is the biggest douche of the universe, in all

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Speaker 7: the galaxies. There's no bigger douche than you. You've reached

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Speaker 7: the top, the pinnacle of douche dom. Good going, doue, your.

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Speaker 1: Dreams have come true. Sharing in that award, we go

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Speaker 1: to a New Jersey police sergeant, former Democratic mayor Andrew

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Speaker 1: le Bruno, who was arrested this week in charge with

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Speaker 1: aggravated sexual assault and sexual assault as well as endangering

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Speaker 1: the welfare of a child. Jersey City Police sergeant Andrew

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Speaker 1: Lobruno accused of drugging and sexually assaulting the child he

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Speaker 1: met on There You Have It, a social media app.

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Speaker 1: Investigator say he went to the child's home in Englewood,

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Speaker 1: New Jersey, where he sprayed an unknown substance onto his

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Speaker 1: hand before placing it over the victim's mouth and knows,

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Speaker 1: causing the victim to have experienced dizziness.

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Speaker 4: Do what the hell.

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Speaker 1: The forty four year old Oh again, forty four and

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Speaker 1: married father of two. I see a theme going on here.

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Speaker 1: Joe then sexually assaulted the child, who was physically helpless

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Speaker 1: as a consequence of being drugged. Nine one well call

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Speaker 1: reportedly made a police who responded to the scene, where

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Speaker 1: they found the victims suffering from cognitive impairment. Child taken

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Speaker 1: to local hospital for treatment. Thority say they had enough

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Speaker 1: probable cause evidence to arrest this La Bruno pervert, citing

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Speaker 1: statements the former Democrat mayor made at the scene of

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Speaker 1: the crime, which were captured on body cameras not known

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Speaker 1: if it's their Axos body cameras or not, as well

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Speaker 1: as the victim's account and corroborating physical evidence. Use your imagination, God,

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Speaker 1: spend it without pay. Immediately after the arrest, thankfully, curly

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Speaker 1: being held without bail in the Bergen County jail obviously

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Speaker 1: not in Hamilton County in front of Judge Silverstein. But

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Speaker 1: oh yeah, oh yeah, Joe, Yeah. I hope he's having

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Speaker 1: a really, really good time. I hope he's getting a

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Speaker 1: lot of attention, A lot of attention. Five to forty

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Speaker 1: five ifty five KRCD talk station. More stupid coming up

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Speaker 1: or phone calls. Feel free to comment. I'll be right back.

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Speaker 4: Fifty five KRC see.

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Speaker 1: Fifty five pair CD talk station. FOP President Ken Kober

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Speaker 1: coming on to the bottom of the next hour. You're

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Speaker 1: talking about this forty one million dollar police tech expenditure

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Speaker 1: from the City of Cincinnati. Also, we'll get a little

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Speaker 1: insight to what Charmeie McGuffey. Yeah, she's the sheriff, remember her. Anyway,

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Speaker 1: she's could be holding a press conference talking about how

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Speaker 1: crime is down in the city of Cincinnati. We'll get

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Speaker 1: ken Kober's reaction to that in advance of actually hearing

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Speaker 1: something uttered from Hamilton County Sheriff Charmey mcguffee. Anyway, back

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Speaker 1: to this stack is stupid. Portland, Oregon man robbed a

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Speaker 1: liquor store while an employee was suffering a cardiac arrest.

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Speaker 4: Do what the happened?

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Speaker 6: Man?

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Speaker 1: We got a lot of people piling on and added

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Speaker 1: to the award winners this morning. Took advantage of the

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Speaker 1: medical emergency emergency to steal eight hundred dollars roughly from

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Speaker 1: the safe, before then abandoning the victim, who was again

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Speaker 1: struggling with the cardiac arre ass. Fifty three year old

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Speaker 1: Jason Hay had the heart attack while working at Bin's

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Speaker 1: and Barrel's liquor store. Security camera footage shows a man

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Speaker 1: pretending to help Hay during the medical emergency before stealing

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Speaker 1: from the store and then running away. Dozens of friends

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Speaker 1: of family members held a vigil for him, talking about

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Speaker 1: how he's everyone's best friend, spent most of his life

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Speaker 1: in the area. His sister said her brother would have

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Speaker 1: been able to identify the suspect if he was still alive.

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Speaker 1: Hey left behind a wife, Willissa, and a fifteen year

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Speaker 1: old son. Portland police still investigating the store robbery and

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Speaker 1: their of course, asking for anyone's help who might have

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Speaker 1: seen this miserable piece of excrement. Imagine that not even

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Speaker 1: placed on a nine to one to one call. There's

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Speaker 1: some terrible, terrible human beings in the world. Oh look,

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Speaker 1: we're on a theme this morning, terrible human beings in

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Speaker 1: the stack of stupid. Oh this is fantastic. Thank you

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Speaker 1: Judge Checker for the editorial comments. You're a woman until

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Speaker 1: you're not a woman. Defense attorney for a Washington State

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Speaker 1: lawmark maker thought a motion to dismiss a case involving

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Speaker 1: indecent exposure charges against the client Transgendersvenson City councilor Lucy Lausser,

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Speaker 1: actively involved with Antifon networks. Lausser is accused of unlawfully

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Speaker 1: exposing his quote unquote breasts during an anti Trump protest

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Speaker 1: in July. He's a man who identifies a woman. It's

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Speaker 1: a man man. District Judge Rainier presided over oral arguments

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Speaker 1: on Monday, canncerning his motion to dismiss. I was waiting

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Speaker 1: for that which mandates of the prosecution of defense agree

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Speaker 1: in all faction ahead of it for being to be prosecuted.

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Speaker 1: According to defense attorney Brian Pruitt, my client was protesting

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Speaker 1: the current presidential administration's executive order, which basically put in

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Speaker 1: place that under federal law that there are two genders

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Speaker 1: and that every person is the gender that they were

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Speaker 1: assigned at birth. That's highly offensive to my client, and

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Speaker 1: as a result, on the fourth of July, she chose

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Speaker 1: the protest in a way that clearly addressed that issue.

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Speaker 1: This is back in July this year protests outside the

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Speaker 1: County courthouse, Blausser exposed his breast by removing his shirt

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Speaker 1: now she would prefer that I say he she anyway

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Speaker 1: confusing It always is painted on one arm red paint taped.

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Speaker 1: His mouth and the nipple part were painted in black

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Speaker 1: and inscribed quote woman Life Freedom across his chest. The

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Speaker 1: top display intended to challenge President Trump's executive order in

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Speaker 1: restricting sex change procedures for miners and barring men from

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Speaker 1: competing in women's sports teams, which Lauser would was publicly

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Speaker 1: decrying as dehumanizing. Prosecuting a deputy prosecut prosecuting attorney argued

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Speaker 1: the judge that the counsellor's conduct was against the law,

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Speaker 1: referred Lauser with female protown pronouns during the proceedings. Because

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Speaker 1: miss Lauser's protest was nonverbal in the message was unlikely

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Speaker 1: to be understood by those who viewed her conduct, it

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Speaker 1: could be analyzed as mere conduct and not protected speech,

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Speaker 1: and is thus easily found to be obscene. Asked the

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Speaker 1: judge to find that there is at least a possibility

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Speaker 1: that a reasonable juror could make some the same judgment.

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Speaker 1: She said, the law is ambiguous, and when there is

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Speaker 1: an ambiguity, such as that, it's our duty to prosecute

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Speaker 1: and bring that question before the court. Laoser told reporters

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Speaker 1: after arrest, I couldn't think of a better method of

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Speaker 1: protesting the president, calling me a man taking off my

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Speaker 1: shirt and getting arrested for it. Defense attorney pro would

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Speaker 1: argue that Laoso's conduct did not amount to indecent exposure

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Speaker 1: because his nipples were covered in black. It's the amount

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Speaker 1: of exposure that a person would have if they were

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Speaker 1: wearing a bikini. He spoke to the judge, arguing that

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Speaker 1: if there was a person in town who was male

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Speaker 1: on the fourth of July and was walking down the

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Speaker 1: street without a shirt on, we would not have a

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Speaker 1: prosecution for obscenity or indecent exposure. Conduct if it's topless

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Speaker 1: in nature, is speech enless. There's some sort of sexualized behavior,

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Speaker 1: the lawyer argued, standing there, protesting is not trying to

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Speaker 1: incite arousal in any way, shape or form, nor would

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Speaker 1: any rational human being I might subjectively Internet find that

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Speaker 1: arousing in any form. So, in essence, because men can

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Speaker 1: go topless, this man professing to be a woman can

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Speaker 1: basically go topless and it shouldn't be an offense. Hence

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Speaker 1: Joe's editorial comment, So you're a woman until you're not

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Speaker 1: a woman because you want to avoid prosecution. Fair enough, Joe,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna give it to you on that one. Coming

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Speaker 1: up a five fifty six fifty five KRC The Talk Station. Yes,

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Speaker 1: this is a real thing. These are real people making

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Speaker 1: these real arguments. Get your head around that. Try to

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Speaker 1: wrap your head around that. Ken Kober FLP President coming

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Speaker 1: up at six thirty plenty to talk about between now

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Speaker 1: and then. I certainly would love to hear from you.

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Speaker 1: If you feel like calin, feel free to do so.

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Speaker 1: Be back after the.

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Speaker 8: News Today's tough headlines coming.

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Speaker 1: Six oh six fifty five KRC The Talk Station by

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Speaker 1: Thomas Your wishing everbody, You're very happy Friday e Thursday,

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Speaker 1: call it what you will. All I know is it's

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Speaker 1: the return of iHeart. MEETIA aviation expert Jay RATTLFT today,

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Speaker 1: back from his bout with Bell's palsy. He worked hard

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Speaker 1: on therapy and thanks to everyone who had some prayers

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Speaker 1: for Jay rattlift so eight thirty for j got some

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Speaker 1: great topics to talk about with him. He's seated by

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Speaker 1: Timmograth with the book Three Roads to Gettysburg. Yes, Abraham

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Speaker 1: Lincoln and some folks you've never heard of. Very influential

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Speaker 1: they were, and we're going to find out about who

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Speaker 1: they are. With Tim McGrath at eight oh five, preceeded

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Speaker 1: by continuing a theme in reverse. Former President Abraham Lincoln

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Speaker 1: joins the program. Now this is Larry Elliott at seven thirty.

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Speaker 1: Got an empower Youth Seminar tonight. He's going to be

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Speaker 1: portraying President Abraham Lincoln. He does this with you know,

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Speaker 1: groups and schools and things like that. He actually shows

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Speaker 1: up and is the embodiment of Abraham Lincoln. He puts

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Speaker 1: himself in Abraham Lincoln's character. It's like method acting and

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Speaker 1: doesn't step out of characters. So when you're talking to him,

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Speaker 1: you just may as well pretend that you're actually talking

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Speaker 1: with President Abraham Lincoln. That's the empower Youse Seminar tonight.

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Speaker 1: You can show up in person or log in from home.

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Speaker 1: And I hope you rivet to log into that seminar

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Speaker 1: last night from g Van Fleet and I really enjoyed

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Speaker 1: the conversation with her. Frightening stuff and a real warning

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Speaker 1: to America to wake the hell up that you're head

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Speaker 1: and headlong into communism. Marxism highly influenced by the chain,

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Speaker 1: and he's Communist Party Congressman Warren Davids at seven oh five.

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Speaker 1: The other the Epstein files coming our way thirty days

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Speaker 1: from now. Donald Trump signed the bill into law yesterday.

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Speaker 1: Now get your popcorn out and wait and see who

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Speaker 1: is uncovered in the release of documents and the comical exercise. Invariably,

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Speaker 1: the Department of Justice is going to go through trying

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Speaker 1: to redact most of the critical information, keep the names

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Speaker 1: of some very powerful people hidden. Apparently Ken Kober FLP President.

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Speaker 1: Bottom of this hour, we have forty one million dollars

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Speaker 1: for new tech, most all of which is going to

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Speaker 1: one company AXOS. Don't know whether he's got a problem

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Speaker 1: with that, but we're talking about purchase an acquisition of drones,

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Speaker 1: some cameras, dashboard cameras, tasers, virtual reality headsets which are

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Speaker 1: apparently used to train the Cincinnai Police Department officers on

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Speaker 1: how to use tasers. All these products, including the storage,

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Speaker 1: for example, the video that's gathered, the information that's gathered

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Speaker 1: from the various devices, all stored on this company's own

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Speaker 1: servers Axon, which they claim is well, it's better than

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Speaker 1: keeping it in house. So anyway, that'll be Ken cobra

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Speaker 1: bottom of this hour five three, seven, four nine fifty

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Speaker 1: five hundred, eight hundred and eighty two to three taco

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Speaker 1: pound five fifty on AT and T phones, you know,

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Speaker 1: and on the on the heels of that that ridiculous position,

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Speaker 1: the transgender woman, guy pretending to be a woman was

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Speaker 1: making that he she could go topless because you know,

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Speaker 1: no guy would get cited for indecent exposure if he

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Speaker 1: were topless. Well, she, I guess chose to be a

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Speaker 1: woman in the moment that she got cited for indecent

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Speaker 1: exposure at a rally. I just wanted to think about

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Speaker 1: I wanted you to think about this. When you're relying

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Speaker 1: on information from your government. They they don't really do

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Speaker 1: the research and investigation. They're out there relying on studies

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Speaker 1: depending on what you're talking about, like global warming. Remember

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Speaker 1: the hockey stick. Al Gore said, we're all going to

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Speaker 1: die in eight years if we don't, you know, eliminate

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Speaker 1: carbon from the environment. Yeah, here's the research which shows

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Speaker 1: that we've got scientists top notrement on the job telling

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Speaker 1: us that, yeah, we're all going to die, and over

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Speaker 1: the passage of time that never happened. Right, you can

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Speaker 1: look back, look at the dates that you had. These

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Speaker 1: people say that we were doomed to all die, some

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Speaker 1: of them predicting that human population will be completely eradicated

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Speaker 1: because well, we breathe or something. They picked and choose

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Speaker 1: which studies, And if you were a heretic and you

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Speaker 1: showed another study which was equally at least in terms

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Speaker 1: of peer review or analysis, equally credible as their hockey

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Speaker 1: stick or whatever modeling that they were relying on, they

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Speaker 1: basically would crucify you. You were thrown out of the

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Speaker 1: science and basically losing your credibility, your status. Doctors who

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Speaker 1: questioned COVID nineteen vaccines talked about maybe ivermactin, maybe that

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Speaker 1: masks don't work. They were kicked out of the profession

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Speaker 1: in essence, ostracized, demonized. Enter JFK jr. Now I asked

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Speaker 1: to the gender transition stuff. Health and Human Services Department

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Speaker 1: published a new set of guidelines yesterday, updating the prior

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Speaker 1: report regarding the dangers of pediatric gender transition medicine, adding

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Speaker 1: external peer reviews to the list to help them support

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Speaker 1: their conclusion. Quote treatment for pediatric pediatric genderdice for you,

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Speaker 1: review of evidence and best practices. That is the name

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Speaker 1: of the supplement, which has now been expanded upon incorporating

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Speaker 1: nine peer reviews, one from American Psychiatric Association, nine replies

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Speaker 1: to those reviews from noted scientists, the names of the

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Speaker 1: report's contributors also identified. The apartment points out these peer

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Speaker 1: reviews confirmed or failed to undercut the initial finding that

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Speaker 1: harms from puberty blockers, cross sex hormones, and surgeries are significant,

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Speaker 1: long term, and too often ignored or inadequately tracked. Now

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Speaker 1: you may remember Rachel Levin, Admiral Levin, the first transgender

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Speaker 1: guy or whatever, saying previously defending gender transition treatment as

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Speaker 1: in his her words, medically necessary, safe and effective for

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Speaker 1: trans and non binary youth. That is now being disputed.

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Speaker 1: Admiral Brian Christine now in that role. So the prior

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Speaker 1: administration of my predecessor, Rachel Levine of Levin manipulated and

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Speaker 1: betrayed vulnerable families. The Trump administration has the will now

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Speaker 1: and we will never ever abandon you. The point being

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Speaker 1: that these peer reviewed studies which are now incited and included,

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Speaker 1: all point out that there are dangers associated with this.

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Speaker 1: There's an LGB Courage coalition out there which also agrees

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Speaker 1: that this stuff is dangerous. They said, look that the

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Speaker 1: contributors themselves, the people whose peer reviewed studies were cited,

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Speaker 1: those who chimed in on the peer studies. These scientists took,

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Speaker 1: in the words of the lgbtwo LGB Courage coalition, took

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Speaker 1: real risks to their professional careers and personal safety by

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Speaker 1: letting their names be released. In this political climate, these

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Speaker 1: authors were willing to question the status of the medical

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Speaker 1: evidence and push scientific inquiry to function the way it

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Speaker 1: must in order to safeguard young people. There were affirms

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Speaker 1: what many of us have been have seen firsthand. LGB

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Speaker 1: youth deserve protection. Now, these are the folks that are

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Speaker 1: presumably supposed to enjoy the benefits of gender transition surgeries

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Speaker 1: and hormones. They're saying, no, you never took into account

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Speaker 1: the dangers. You never went around and interviewed people who

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Speaker 1: went through this surgery with horrific results, only to live

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Speaker 1: with what amounts to permanent, lifelong regret for having gone

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Speaker 1: down that road. At least this administration is acknowledging that, no,

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Speaker 1: you know what, there are dangers associated with it. They

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Speaker 1: didn't conclude that it's absolutely outright verboten. But they also

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Speaker 1: pointed out something extremely important that this isn't conclusive that

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Speaker 1: it isn't harmful. There's no conclusive proof that these treatments

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Speaker 1: are not harmful. Here a whole bunch of studies would

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Speaker 1: show that they are harmful or potentially harmful. Let's have

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Speaker 1: pointed out that a lot of countries have flipped the

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Speaker 1: opposite direction. According to this Admiral Christine, the new person

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Speaker 1: in charge around the world, countries like the United Kingdom, Sweden,

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Speaker 1: Finland have already shifted course emphasizing what I think is

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Speaker 1: important psychotherapy and mental health support for children confused about

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Speaker 1: their sex. Christine also said, and it's a long time

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Speaker 1: that we do the same in the United States. How

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Speaker 1: about providing the United States population with all of the information? Now,

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Speaker 1: different topic, same argument. CDC has now changed this website

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Speaker 1: regarding vaccines and whether or not they may have a

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Speaker 1: connection with autism, whether or not you believe it does.

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Speaker 1: According to the revised website, the claim vaccines do not

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Speaker 1: cause autism is not an evidence based claim because studies

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Speaker 1: haven't ruled out the possibility infant vaccines cause autism. Studies

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Speaker 1: supporting that link have been ignored by health authorities Previously.

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Speaker 1: The page said studies have shown there is no link

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Speaker 1: between receiving vaccines and developing autism, so your left to

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Speaker 1: conclude that there is no connection. There is there, I

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Speaker 1: don't know, but apparently there are some studies out there

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Speaker 1: which suggest there may be a link. In other words,

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Speaker 1: they point out that the research has not been done

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Speaker 1: to see whether or not there's vaccine there's a link

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Speaker 1: between vaccines and autism. As a consequence of that, you

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Speaker 1: need to know that there may be. It's part of

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Speaker 1: making an informed choice. Every time you take a pharmaceutical

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Speaker 1: that's been issued, what's on the box black box labels,

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Speaker 1: warning labels. If you take this, you may experience, you know,

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Speaker 1: in limited cases or sometimes the following like death. Don't

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Speaker 1: take the medicine if you're allergic to the medicine my

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Speaker 1: favorite warning of all warnings. But those are allowing you

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Speaker 1: to make an informed decision.

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Speaker 3: You know what.

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Speaker 1: I'm a little worried about this whole hemophilia thing. The

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Speaker 1: thing says we're going to have problems with clotting blood.

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Speaker 1: I've already got problems with that. I don't want to

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Speaker 1: take that medicine informed decision, so This is a common theme,

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Speaker 1: is why I kind of put it all together. You

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Speaker 1: got global warming, here's the studies. Yeah, but what about

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Speaker 1: all these studies autism vaccine, here's the study. Well, what

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Speaker 1: about the lack of evidence in these other studies suggesting

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Speaker 1: the link gender transition. There's nothing wrong with surgery for

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Speaker 1: miners and hormone blockers. No, no, no, there happens to

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Speaker 1: be a bunch of research which says they are harmful.

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Speaker 1: You might want to consider that JFK Junior or RFK

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Speaker 1: Junior turning out to be a pretty good guy from

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Speaker 1: my perspective. West Side Gym, you're next. I got to

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Speaker 1: take a quick break here and mentioned my friends at

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Speaker 1: Gate of Heaven Cemetery. It's a Cat six twenty one

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Speaker 1: fifty five krc DE talk station. Happy Thursday. You gonna

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Speaker 1: go straight to the phones day. West Side Gym's kind

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Speaker 1: of up the hold over the break there, Steve, hold on,

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Speaker 1: you'll be next. Jim, welcome back. My friend's always a

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Speaker 1: pleasure hearing from me. Thank you for the photographs of

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Speaker 1: sunset before and after. I loved that, as well as

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Speaker 1: the speed humps in front of Price sal Chili. That

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Speaker 1: I'll be able to see for myself at listener Lunch

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Speaker 1: coming up first Wednesday of December. Good to hear from

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Speaker 1: this morning, Jim.

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Speaker 9: Good morning, Brian.

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Speaker 10: Yeah that was I saw him putting up a sign

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Speaker 10: yesterday that said in honor of Brian Thomas, this is

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Speaker 10: a thoroughfare for Brian Thomas thoroughfare.

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Speaker 1: You know, I would love to be able to say

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Speaker 1: I had some some tiny influence on finally getting Sunset paved.

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Speaker 1: It's almost like we need to get Thomas to shut

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Speaker 1: up talking about our failures and allowing Sunset to become

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Speaker 1: the war torn road that it looks like it came

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Speaker 1: from for the past two decades. Okay, let's go ahead

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Speaker 1: and fix it. What did it take a week?

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Speaker 3: Jim?

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Speaker 10: Yeah, it's as smooth as a baby's butt. But I mean,

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Speaker 10: you know, when you tear up a street and then

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Speaker 10: redo it with reebar and the whole bit, it takes

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Speaker 10: a lot longer than just a few days to a

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Speaker 10: week to post some blacktop on. No, I'm not complaining

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Speaker 10: because it's smooth. I mean, it's nice, and there are

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Speaker 10: portions of it that they skipped over. I don't know

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Speaker 10: why they did that, but those speed humps is basically

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Speaker 10: what I wanted to talk about because.

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Speaker 2: You saw that.

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Speaker 10: Can you imagine what are they gonna do skip that

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Speaker 10: when the snow comes down, Because if the snowplow hits

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Speaker 10: those things, that's going to dig them right up.

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Speaker 1: I couldn't agree with you more. At least that's the

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Speaker 1: appearance they gave. But again, these aren't attached to the

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Speaker 1: road with reebar. They're not a fix, and not a

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Speaker 1: permanently permanently a fixed. It's like they came with a

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Speaker 1: pile of asphalt, put a mound of it, and then

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Speaker 1: compressed it down. So if you hit that sideways with

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Speaker 1: a snowplow, that's gonna cut it. Seems like we'll pop

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Speaker 1: right up. We'll find out.

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Speaker 6: How do you think that?

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Speaker 10: It's not even asphalt, Brian, It's blacktop, so it's not

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Speaker 10: even durable, like you know, weuld get like a concrete

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Speaker 10: or asphalt something like that. But you know, I just

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Speaker 10: wanted to call in for your listeners.

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Speaker 11: I know they can't.

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Speaker 10: They're not going to make a special trip out there

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Speaker 10: to see what sunset looks like. But if you hit

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Speaker 10: to we've complained about it for so long. If you

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Speaker 10: had to drive that thing before and after it's it's

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Speaker 10: it's almost pleasurable. I was, I made that trip yesterday.

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Speaker 10: But sending you those pictures, I know it's it sounds stupid,

862
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Speaker 10: but no, it's one one thing for the West Side.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, it just serves a great illustration of

864
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Speaker 1: the incompetence that the road has been so bad for

865
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Speaker 1: so long and that they did something to it just

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Speaker 1: pleases me to know when I'd love to be able

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Speaker 1: to take credit, but I'm not going to. I'm not

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Speaker 1: even going to suggest for a moment that I can.

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Speaker 1: But they did eliminate it, eliminate that as a topic

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Speaker 1: for me to spring from from this point forward. Jim, Well,

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Speaker 1: remember now it's gonna remember how bad sunset was for

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Speaker 1: twenty years.

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Speaker 10: Oh yeah, I mean that'll be a topic for the grandchildren.

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Speaker 1: Well, and you've got before and we'll soon look for

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Speaker 1: after pictures. Let's let's wait for the winter time to

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Speaker 1: go through a couple of snow episodes about six eight

877
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Speaker 1: months of traffic, and then we'll see what the speed

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Speaker 1: humps look like in front of price heal Chili, appreciate it,

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Speaker 1: Jim Brian.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, real quick, I did see a couple of cars

881
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Speaker 10: go flying down that middle lane yesterday and just hit

882
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Speaker 10: them like normal. I mean, people just don't really care there, stupid.

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Speaker 1: Apparently they obviously don't care about their cars either. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's their issue to Thanks brother, always good hearing from you, Steve.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the show, and happy Thursday.

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Speaker 12: Thank you, Good morning, Ryan. I love your show. I

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Speaker 12: got a couple of resources for people that are interested

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Speaker 12: in examining the vaccine issues and autism.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 12: The first one is on the web. It's a free video.

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Speaker 12: The title or the website is an Inconvenient Study dot com.

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Speaker 1: Fair enough.

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Speaker 12: Inconvenient Study dot com. It compares the health of completely

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Speaker 12: unvaccinated kids to the health of fully vaccinated kids, and

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Speaker 12: I'm there.

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Speaker 1: It provides a nice breakdown of that. You know, it's

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Speaker 1: just again one more illustration of the volume of material

898
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Speaker 1: that's out there that isn't all consistent. Now, I can't

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Speaker 1: pass on the credibility that particular page, You're not, Steve,

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Speaker 1: but it is a resource. I always encourage people look,

901
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Speaker 1: look at the citations, look at where the information came from.

902
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Speaker 1: Is it a credible source of information? And at least

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Speaker 1: we now have an administration under RFK Junior that is

904
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Speaker 1: looking at alternative narratives and alternative information so you can

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Speaker 1: make an informed decision. And I think that's a step

906
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Speaker 1: in the right direction because so many things, a political

907
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Speaker 1: agenda is what is trying to be achieved here, Like

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Speaker 1: with the LGBTQ pronouncements that gender dysphoria should be addressed

909
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Speaker 1: with surgery. Really no one out in the scientific world

910
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Speaker 1: thinks that could be dangerous. No, it might be dangerous.

911
00:51:32,920 --> 00:51:36,360
Speaker 1: There's studies to suggest that. But the agenda is this

912
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Speaker 1: whole concept that no, no, no, if you believe you're

913
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Speaker 1: the opposite sex, we should embrace that and encourage that.

914
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Speaker 1: How disruptive is that to life? Generally speaking? It's just

915
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Speaker 1: one more of those topics of division, and it flies

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Speaker 1: in the face of all logic, common sense, and just

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Speaker 1: plain old fashioned science. Chromosome based reality, men or women

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Speaker 1: defined by your chromosomes and also your genitalia. So I

919
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Speaker 1: don't stand gender confusion. I'm not a psychiatrist, a psychiatry

920
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Speaker 1: or a psychologist, don't play one on radio. But my

921
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Speaker 1: whole philosophy boils down to look down. What do you

922
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Speaker 1: see there? There's the answer to the question six twenty

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Speaker 1: six right now fifty five Thanks Steve, fifty five KRCD

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Speaker 1: Talk Station. It's six thirty one, fifty five CARSD Talk Station.

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Speaker 1: A very happy Friday, EU to you. Welcome back to

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Speaker 1: the fifty five cars morning. She always enjoy hearing from

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Speaker 1: FOP President Ken Cover. That of course is Chapter sixty

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Speaker 1: nine FOP representing the Sincinni Police Department. Ken, It's always

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Speaker 1: pleasure having on the show. Welcome back, my friend.

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Speaker 2: Hey, good morning, Brian, Happy Friday.

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Speaker 1: Happy Friday, Eve. Yeah. David Ferrara, reporting for The Enquirre,

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Speaker 1: says the Cincinnati City of Cincinnati's now spending forty one

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Speaker 1: million dollars to obtain some new technology, all of which

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Speaker 1: comes from this company called Axon, which is the company

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Speaker 1: that started it started by manufacturing tasers, but apparently has

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Speaker 1: expanded its options to body cameras, drones, virtual reality training headsets,

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Speaker 1: and then a cloud based platform that this company operates itself,

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Speaker 1: where all of the data collected from this technology the

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Speaker 1: police officers have is stored basically under their corporate umbrella.

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Speaker 1: I'm going just first start by did you see the

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Speaker 1: reporting on this. Is there anything that you view? The

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Speaker 1: police department generally objects to where things is unnecessary or

943
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Speaker 1: do you view this infusion of cash and technology as

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Speaker 1: a positive thing?

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Speaker 2: Cane And honestly it's positive. Actually, I was out in

946
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Speaker 2: Scottsdale at Axon's headquarters a couple of weeks ago. They

947
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Speaker 2: invited forty FOP leaders from around the country to kind

948
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Speaker 2: of it was just a forum to go over the

949
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Speaker 2: current technology, know where they're planning ongoing future technology, and

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Speaker 2: I'm telling you advance some of this stuff that they're

951
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Speaker 2: creating is absolutely phenomenal. The CEO is the one that

952
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Speaker 2: put us on. Awesome guy who's geared around making police

953
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Speaker 2: jobs easier and safer.

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Speaker 1: Now you've got me intrigued. Can you just give us

955
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Speaker 1: a little thumbnail sketch of what might he coming down

956
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Speaker 1: the road from this company? I'm wildly curious.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So there's a lot of things that they want

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Speaker 2: to do. A lot of it's AI based to be

959
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Speaker 2: able to make cops jobs easier, like body cameras. You know,

960
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Speaker 2: there's there's technology already out there, and one of them

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Speaker 2: they showed a video where if if you're familiar with

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Speaker 2: like Google Translate with different languages, yeah, they have it

963
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Speaker 2: on body cameras, so if you're talking, Yeah, and actually

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Speaker 2: we're going to be getting that. I'm understanding very soon

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Speaker 2: in the near future. I came back from this conference,

966
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Speaker 2: met with some leadership and they're like, yeah, this is coming.

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Speaker 2: So a video that they showed us from New Mexico

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Speaker 2: where an officer was dealing with somebody that had committed

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Speaker 2: a crime. It was Russian. Literally puts a couple buttons.

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Speaker 2: It indicates on the body camera that you're now in Russian.

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Speaker 2: You speak in English. It spits it out to the

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Speaker 2: guy in Russian, the guys, here's it. He listens to it,

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Speaker 2: he responds, and then it translates from Russian to English

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Speaker 2: right back to you, and it does it an any

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Speaker 2: language in America or in the w world.

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Speaker 1: That that is cool. And you know, obviously you know,

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Speaker 1: say what you want about the illegal immigrant problem we

978
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Speaker 1: have coming in. I mean documented that people from countries

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Speaker 1: all over the globe, multiple different languages flowing on in.

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Speaker 1: That is that's an amazing development right there.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, Like I said, those are those are some of

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Speaker 2: the things that that they're trying to create. And like

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Speaker 2: I said that the CEO of this company, he's driven

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Speaker 2: based off of trying to reduce police involved shootings and

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Speaker 2: if he can do that. Like one of the ways

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Speaker 2: they have a new taser that we're going to get

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Speaker 2: I know is and that report this taser can and

989
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Speaker 2: it's you know, these tasers have been pretty effective, you know.

990
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Speaker 2: But his goal, and he told us in the next

991
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Speaker 2: like five years, is to have these tasers where they're

992
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Speaker 2: like ninety nine percent effective. He is, I know, I'm

993
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Speaker 2: not going to prevent all police shootings. Is, but we've

994
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Speaker 2: done statistics where we've seen that there have been police

995
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Speaker 2: shootings where a taser was deployed and it failed and

996
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Speaker 2: then the end result was a police involved shooting. Is

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Speaker 2: if I can, if I can keep that from happening.

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Speaker 2: He's like, obviously, if a god pulls out a gun

999
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Speaker 2: and he points out you, you're going to have to

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Speaker 2: do a hipping protect yourself. But if you have somebody

1001
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Speaker 2: that's that's experiencing a mental crisis and they're just standing

1002
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Speaker 2: in their front yard with a knife and an officer

1003
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Speaker 2: is able to find cover, you know, whether they're behind

1004
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Speaker 2: a car or whatever else, safely deploy a taser to

1005
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Speaker 2: be able to take them into custody without having to

1006
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Speaker 2: kill them. Although they do have the right to protect themselves,

1007
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Speaker 2: up to including deadly force. But if they can prevent that,

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Speaker 2: that's good for everybody. It's good for society, it's good

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Speaker 2: for cops, it's good for everybody.

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Speaker 1: Well, in the new design tasers, do they provide additional range?

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Speaker 3: Is that?

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Speaker 2: Yes? Absolutely? Yeah, the taser ten Now that like I

1013
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Speaker 2: said that the police department's going to be getting here

1014
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Speaker 2: at the beginning of twenty six they will shoot up

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Speaker 2: to almost fifty feet.

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Speaker 1: Wow. Yeah, and presently is what more like ten feet?

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Speaker 2: They're up to about twenty five feet roughly. Now, okay,

1018
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Speaker 2: but I mean just the whole design a lot of things.

1019
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Speaker 2: It actually makes it safer for the person that's being

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Speaker 2: taste because they've changed some of the internal technology. So

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Speaker 2: there's a lot of things that this company is doing

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Speaker 2: that is serving the public. And I know, I saw

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Speaker 2: the article, you know about how they have a corner

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Speaker 2: on the market, and you know, if other companies want

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Speaker 2: to come up with stuff that are just as good,

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Speaker 2: that police department should buy it again.

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Speaker 1: I just I thought that was rather comical. The one person.

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Speaker 1: Companies like ix On are very interested in getting their

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Speaker 1: customers and then keeping them. This can make the effort

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Speaker 1: it take the transfer a different platform of offload information

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Speaker 1: so that customers don't try to do that. Well, no kidding,

1032
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Speaker 1: welcome to capitalism. Yes, of course they want to retain

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Speaker 1: their customers. So what you're the boiled down version of

1034
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Speaker 1: what I'm hearing is there is nothing wrong with this

1035
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Speaker 1: Axon company. They're not evil, nefarious, They're doing good for

1036
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Speaker 1: the people. And who can argue with a less deadly

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Speaker 1: form of dealing with someone who represents a significant harm

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Speaker 1: to the unity. This is not something that Iris Rollie

1039
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Speaker 1: is going to come out and scream about. This is

1040
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Speaker 1: something that someone like her has to embrace. Ken Cober,

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Speaker 1: we got more technology to talk about. Plus the meeting today,

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Speaker 1: Hamilton County Sheriff Charme McGuffey emerging from her cave to

1043
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Speaker 1: talk about how safe it is in the city of Cincinnati.

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Speaker 1: We'll get your comments on that as well more with

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Speaker 1: FOP President Ken Cobra first speak. You know, it's not

1046
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Speaker 1: Tech Friday, it's FOP President Ken Cober Thursday talking about

1047
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Speaker 1: the new technology the Cincinnati The City of Cincinnati spending

1048
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Speaker 1: forty one million dollars on over the next several years

1049
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Speaker 1: access to the company providing the technology they apparently have

1050
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Speaker 1: not a monopoly so much, but they are the leader

1051
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Speaker 1: in providing technology for law enforcements. Can explain altruistic designed

1052
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Speaker 1: to save lives. That's what they're all about, and they

1053
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Speaker 1: are the largest provider of this type of equipment. Ken Cobra,

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Speaker 1: I got to ask you because apparently we're buying and

1055
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Speaker 1: already have acquired some drones. Then to enquire crunch the

1056
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Speaker 1: numbers and they estimate for if you care, they come

1057
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Speaker 1: out to be about sixty two thousand dollars apiece. But

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Speaker 1: they're also maintenance fees and stuff like that. But in

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Speaker 1: the final analysis, I guess I'm kind of curious how

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Speaker 1: the City of Cincinnati, the police department rather utilizes the

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Speaker 1: drone technology. I mean, there's I envision, you know, sort

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Speaker 1: of an Orwellian reality where these things are flying around

1063
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Speaker 1: all the time everywhere. But then I'm thinking, well, there

1064
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Speaker 1: aren't enough people really monitor what the drones are viewing.

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Speaker 1: So how does law enforcement utilize drone technology to the citizens' advantage?

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Speaker 2: So the number one way that they use them outside

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Speaker 2: of like patrol, and I'll get to that is during

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Speaker 2: like swat situations. We've been using them for years, right

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Speaker 2: where instead of sending officers in. You know, if you

1070
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Speaker 2: have a standoff in a building, they'll send a drone in.

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Speaker 2: Makes perfect which makes a hope, It makes absolutely makes

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Speaker 2: perfect sense. Not only is it protecting the officers, but

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00:59:42,760 --> 00:59:46,120
Speaker 2: as protecting someone there, especially if they're armed, then they're

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Speaker 2: able to see that in real time. And then obviously

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00:59:49,360 --> 00:59:51,760
Speaker 2: the drone. Through the drone, they can communicate if there's

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00:59:51,800 --> 00:59:53,920
Speaker 2: somebody in the building that's armed with a gun, they

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00:59:53,960 --> 00:59:56,840
Speaker 2: can start giving them commands to drop the gun, drop

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00:59:56,920 --> 00:59:58,960
Speaker 2: the gun. Once they finally drop the gun, they can

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Speaker 2: then give them command to come to any door, lay

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01:00:02,240 --> 01:00:03,880
Speaker 2: down whatever they want them to do. That way, the

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Speaker 2: officers can safely go in there and apprehend them so

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Speaker 2: nobody gets hurt. The way they're using them on a

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01:00:09,560 --> 01:00:14,240
Speaker 2: daily basis are specific radio runs, you know, so they're

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01:00:14,280 --> 01:00:16,520
Speaker 2: not just like flying around like you know, just just

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01:00:16,600 --> 01:00:19,400
Speaker 2: waiting for something to happen. You know, if they get

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01:00:19,400 --> 01:00:21,480
Speaker 2: a specific radio run where an officer goes, hey, a

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01:00:21,560 --> 01:00:24,040
Speaker 2: drone would be useful, you know, whether it's a you know,

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01:00:24,960 --> 01:00:29,320
Speaker 2: a fight in progress, you know, at a specific location,

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01:00:29,400 --> 01:00:31,200
Speaker 2: they could say, let's send a drone and see what's

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01:00:31,240 --> 01:00:33,880
Speaker 2: going on. Maybe there's no fight. If there's no fight,

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Speaker 2: then we don't need to worry about sending officers that

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01:00:36,120 --> 01:00:37,680
Speaker 2: are on the ground to go there. They can be

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01:00:37,760 --> 01:00:41,120
Speaker 2: focused towards other things. But they also they also use them.

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Speaker 2: They use them fight a gun run.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 2: They get a description of a male wearing a purple

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01:00:45,800 --> 01:00:50,240
Speaker 2: shirt at at third and Main Street, they can fly

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01:00:50,360 --> 01:00:52,440
Speaker 2: a drone there find out first of all, is there

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Speaker 2: a mail with a purple shirt standing there? And number

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01:00:54,600 --> 01:00:57,400
Speaker 2: two does he have a gun? And if he does, well,

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Speaker 2: then let's see how we can coordinate this effort. That way,

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Speaker 2: we could do this the safest way possible.

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Speaker 1: Well, I imagine they also have to be they'll arrive

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Speaker 1: on the scene probably a lot quicker than some officer

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01:01:06,680 --> 01:01:10,840
Speaker 1: that's being dispatched from what District three or something has

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01:01:10,880 --> 01:01:12,560
Speaker 1: got to drive halfway across town to get to the

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Speaker 1: actual scene. As the description says, these docks where the

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Speaker 1: drones are going to be stored are placed all across

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Speaker 1: the city. So is there one remote drone operation center

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Speaker 1: that could deploy a drone immediately and then have it

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01:01:25,520 --> 01:01:27,600
Speaker 1: arrive at the scene even before the officers.

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Speaker 2: Get there, Oh, without a doubt, you know. But not

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01:01:30,640 --> 01:01:33,600
Speaker 2: only that, it's like, you know, they're subject to being

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01:01:33,680 --> 01:01:37,640
Speaker 2: recalled if there's not a current drone operator working and

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01:01:37,760 --> 01:01:41,080
Speaker 2: they need one for something. All they need is an

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01:01:41,120 --> 01:01:43,360
Speaker 2: Internet connection and they could fly a drone from anywhere.

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Speaker 1: Oh wow.

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01:01:44,960 --> 01:01:46,680
Speaker 2: So if they're at home and they go, hey, we

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01:01:46,760 --> 01:01:49,160
Speaker 2: need a drone right now, they could go log into

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Speaker 2: the computer and they could have a drone in the

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01:01:50,680 --> 01:01:52,720
Speaker 2: air going somewhere within a matter of minutes.

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Speaker 9: Wow.

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Speaker 2: Which is it's incredible technology. That is Certainly it's going

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01:01:57,120 --> 01:01:59,480
Speaker 2: to make officers a whole lot safer, which certainly is

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Speaker 2: why I'm a biggest proponent of IS. But it's also

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Speaker 2: going to keep the community safer as well when you

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01:02:04,800 --> 01:02:08,240
Speaker 2: look at having to apprehend violent people that may be armed.

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Speaker 2: It's just a safer way of doing things. And it's

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Speaker 2: the future of policing, whether we like it or not.

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Speaker 1: And I'm glad you put that on the tail end,

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01:02:16,240 --> 01:02:18,080
Speaker 1: because you know what I love about this is for

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Speaker 1: everything you pointed out, it's better for the officers, it's

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Speaker 1: better for us safer communities, but it also is the

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Speaker 1: orwell in reality that we are being video cameraed and

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Speaker 1: all the time. It's something we're all going to have

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01:02:29,440 --> 01:02:32,360
Speaker 1: to guess get used to Ken Cobra pause. Apparently Charmie

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Speaker 1: McGuffey and others are going to be having a meeting today,

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01:02:34,280 --> 01:02:36,680
Speaker 1: including the interim police chief, talk about how low the

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01:02:36,760 --> 01:02:38,960
Speaker 1: crime rate is in the city of Cincinnati. Will get

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Speaker 1: your insights and thoughts about this upcoming meeting. One more

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01:02:42,320 --> 01:02:48,040
Speaker 1: with FOP President Kencober after cover Sincy What It's six

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01:02:48,120 --> 01:02:51,760
Speaker 1: fifty thick about KARCD talk station Very Happy Thursday. Last Friday,

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01:02:51,800 --> 01:02:54,440
Speaker 1: EVU Brian Thomas with the FOP President Cancober represented the

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01:02:54,520 --> 01:02:58,000
Speaker 1: Cincinni's Police Department and doing a great job, and I

1145
01:02:58,120 --> 01:02:59,760
Speaker 1: appreciate your willingness to come on the program to talk

1146
01:02:59,760 --> 01:03:01,880
Speaker 1: about these and vital issues. And of course over the

1147
01:03:01,920 --> 01:03:04,120
Speaker 1: summer we had the July twenty six beat down. No

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01:03:04,200 --> 01:03:06,960
Speaker 1: one forgets that it sort of set off alarm bells.

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01:03:07,000 --> 01:03:09,240
Speaker 1: Of course, in the aftermath of Sarah Herringer getting her

1150
01:03:09,320 --> 01:03:11,600
Speaker 1: husband stabbed to death in their over the Rhine apartment,

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01:03:11,800 --> 01:03:13,400
Speaker 1: we've got a real problem with crime in the city.

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01:03:13,480 --> 01:03:15,680
Speaker 1: Everyone's screaming about crime in the city and mayor a

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01:03:15,680 --> 01:03:18,480
Speaker 1: have tab provol after well years, if not months, of

1154
01:03:18,560 --> 01:03:21,760
Speaker 1: saying there is no problem with crime finally acknowledge there

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01:03:21,840 --> 01:03:23,440
Speaker 1: is and decided to move in a different direction with

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Speaker 1: law enforcement, taking the state up on some of the

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01:03:25,600 --> 01:03:29,080
Speaker 1: offers of resources like the state patrols, and changing how

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01:03:29,160 --> 01:03:32,200
Speaker 1: law enforcement operates downtown. They're going to have a press

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01:03:32,240 --> 01:03:36,000
Speaker 1: conference day, haven't Kindny Sheriff Charmey McGuffey, Interim Police Chief

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01:03:36,080 --> 01:03:39,560
Speaker 1: Adam Henny, and State Patrol Colonel Charles Jones are going

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Speaker 1: to be talking about this. Ken Cober, is your perception

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01:03:42,000 --> 01:03:45,960
Speaker 1: that crime is down since those turbulent months over the summertime?

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Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I mean obviously as soon as we go

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01:03:49,200 --> 01:03:52,320
Speaker 2: into colder weather, things do seem to calm down. But

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Speaker 2: you know, one of the things that I just told

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Speaker 2: yesterday from an officer that was hopping to the off

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01:03:58,040 --> 01:04:02,200
Speaker 2: duty up on Shortvine last Thursday, it said, you couldn't

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01:04:03,160 --> 01:04:05,720
Speaker 2: swing a dead cat without hitting a cop.

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Speaker 1: Oh wow.

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Speaker 2: And when that happens, they had the state patrol there,

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Speaker 2: they had the city there. When you start doing those

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Speaker 2: things and you flood areas with law enforcement, of course

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Speaker 2: crime is gonna go down. I mean, that's just that's

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01:04:19,680 --> 01:04:22,400
Speaker 2: common sense. That's what the horse have been trying to

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Speaker 2: beat for the last year and a half now well,

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Speaker 2: hiring more officers find they have to find creative ways

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Speaker 2: to hire officers quicker, but they have to be qualified officers,

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Speaker 2: but hire them quicker, and that just is yet to

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01:04:33,280 --> 01:04:35,160
Speaker 2: be done. But yeah, I mean, we're seeing it that

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Speaker 2: it's crime will be reduced when you have a bigger presence.

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Speaker 2: That's why they have cops on Fountain Square every day.

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Speaker 1: It just seems so like, no kidding, what do we

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01:04:45,160 --> 01:04:47,160
Speaker 1: do to reduce crime. Let's put more cops out there,

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Speaker 1: a police presence. Wow, that'll work. Okay, not exactly revolutionary, ken,

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01:04:51,680 --> 01:04:53,920
Speaker 1: but at least they're trying to do that now. Whereas

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Speaker 1: I guess police up until a moment in time ago,

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Speaker 1: were perceived as some soul somehow, I don't know, triggering

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01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:02,800
Speaker 1: a residents of certain communities like the presence of a

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Speaker 1: police officer, we're going to cause people to break down emotionally.

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Speaker 3: Well.

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Speaker 2: And the reality is if you have that just that

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Speaker 2: presence is likely going to avoid having to take any

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01:05:13,880 --> 01:05:17,920
Speaker 2: enforcement exactly. And if one knucklehead wants to act up,

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Speaker 2: then you deal with that person, and everybody else around

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01:05:20,320 --> 01:05:22,439
Speaker 2: sees them and goes, I don't want to go to jail,

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Speaker 2: and I think I'll just not break the law while

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Speaker 2: the cops are around. I mean, it's pretty simple concept.

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Speaker 1: Okay, back to the topic of well, the solution of

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Speaker 1: the problem more officers, more officers presence, we are down.

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Speaker 1: We are still down a couple of one hundred ken

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01:05:34,360 --> 01:05:36,400
Speaker 1: am I accurate on that? And the number is still dropping?

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01:05:36,800 --> 01:05:38,640
Speaker 1: Or are more people in the drop program or we

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01:05:38,680 --> 01:05:40,600
Speaker 1: are people taking early retirement? Where are we on that?

1204
01:05:41,800 --> 01:05:45,200
Speaker 2: We are getting dangerously close to being under nine hundred again,

1205
01:05:46,400 --> 01:05:48,640
Speaker 2: you know, with a complement of almost one thousand and sixty,

1206
01:05:48,720 --> 01:05:50,680
Speaker 2: So I mean we're pushing one hundred and sixty short.

1207
01:05:51,720 --> 01:05:54,120
Speaker 2: We're facing sixty to eighty retirements a year, and the

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01:05:54,280 --> 01:05:57,680
Speaker 2: problem is we're only hiring about fifty five a year.

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01:05:58,760 --> 01:06:00,280
Speaker 2: And I get it with the we can only have

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01:06:00,360 --> 01:06:03,880
Speaker 2: one recruit class year. I mean, the reality is our

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01:06:03,920 --> 01:06:07,040
Speaker 2: academy staff doesn't have the means nor the space to

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01:06:07,200 --> 01:06:09,040
Speaker 2: be able to run more than one recruit class at

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Speaker 2: a time. So they really have to start thinking about,

1214
01:06:13,000 --> 01:06:16,960
Speaker 2: you know, thinking outside the box in unconventional ways to

1215
01:06:17,040 --> 01:06:19,360
Speaker 2: hire new officers. And there are ways out there, there

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01:06:19,400 --> 01:06:21,720
Speaker 2: are things that have been discussed so far, none of

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01:06:21,760 --> 01:06:26,640
Speaker 2: it's been done so I'm certainly hoping that maybe here

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01:06:26,640 --> 01:06:28,800
Speaker 2: in the future they'll start listening and find a way

1219
01:06:28,920 --> 01:06:31,360
Speaker 2: to get more people in the doors, especially when they

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01:06:31,480 --> 01:06:35,040
Speaker 2: see that if you have these extra cops, you know,

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Speaker 2: these things will calm down, crime will start to go

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01:06:39,320 --> 01:06:41,040
Speaker 2: down if you have more of a presence.

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Speaker 1: Well, you have two options, new classes or lateral hires.

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01:06:44,320 --> 01:06:46,000
Speaker 1: So let's real quick with the new classes. If you

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Speaker 1: could do more than one annually, let's say they had

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Speaker 1: unlimited training resources, would there be enough competent, warm bodies

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Speaker 1: that would sign up to want to join the classes.

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Speaker 2: I think you would, because what we're seeing now is

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Speaker 2: there are people going through like UC Claremont has a

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Speaker 2: police academy, Butler Tech has a police academy, and they're

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01:07:07,320 --> 01:07:10,040
Speaker 2: filling their classes good And these are people that are paying,

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Speaker 2: yes to go to these classes, and they're paying upwards

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01:07:13,080 --> 01:07:17,560
Speaker 2: of ten thousand dollars to be certified as police officers. Well,

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01:07:17,920 --> 01:07:20,960
Speaker 2: why can't the city of Cincinnati be capitalizing on those folks?

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Speaker 1: Good point, excellent point. Insofar as lateral hires, since we're

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01:07:24,160 --> 01:07:27,320
Speaker 1: almost out of time, you're in competition literally with every

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01:07:27,360 --> 01:07:30,480
Speaker 1: other city that is looking for police officers. And you know,

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01:07:31,280 --> 01:07:34,200
Speaker 1: going to a lower crime area maybe worth sacrificing a

1239
01:07:34,240 --> 01:07:37,600
Speaker 1: bit of compensation. What is the biggest impediment to getting

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01:07:37,720 --> 01:07:40,439
Speaker 1: lateral hires to choose the city of Cincinnati versus really

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Speaker 1: literally anyplace else.

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Speaker 2: Well, what we saw over the summer was City Hall

1243
01:07:46,120 --> 01:07:47,919
Speaker 2: and the things that were being said from City Hall

1244
01:07:48,080 --> 01:07:50,880
Speaker 2: and the perceived lack of support. And let's be honest,

1245
01:07:51,080 --> 01:07:54,680
Speaker 2: it wasn't perceived, it was just actual that constant believe

1246
01:07:54,680 --> 01:07:56,920
Speaker 2: they were being supported because quite honestly, they weren't being

1247
01:07:57,000 --> 01:07:59,440
Speaker 2: forced to sign charges on somebody they weren't comfortable doing.

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01:07:59,720 --> 01:08:02,520
Speaker 2: Who want to subject themselves to that? You know, we

1249
01:08:02,600 --> 01:08:05,280
Speaker 2: have a new city council, were the same mayor. Hopefully

1250
01:08:05,320 --> 01:08:09,480
Speaker 2: their teams change, we can get that support back. I mean,

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01:08:09,480 --> 01:08:11,680
Speaker 2: I look forward to working with them. Hopefully that comes

1252
01:08:11,720 --> 01:08:14,240
Speaker 2: to fruition and you know, maybe we'll get back to

1253
01:08:14,320 --> 01:08:17,280
Speaker 2: where you know, they want to support the police. They're

1254
01:08:17,320 --> 01:08:19,080
Speaker 2: going to show that they support the police and that

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01:08:19,400 --> 01:08:22,280
Speaker 2: will certainly have a major impact on recruiting.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he has something Christopher Smith has been saying for years.

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01:08:24,880 --> 01:08:27,479
Speaker 1: Where is the administration, Where is their show of support

1258
01:08:27,560 --> 01:08:30,280
Speaker 1: for the police. The silence is deafening. So maybe we

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01:08:30,360 --> 01:08:32,520
Speaker 1: have turned a new page. I'm willing to remain optimistic

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01:08:32,520 --> 01:08:34,240
Speaker 1: about that, Ken, and I wish you all the best

1261
01:08:34,920 --> 01:08:36,679
Speaker 1: in the hopes that the city moves in that direction

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Speaker 1: and we have a safer city to show for it.

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Speaker 1: Ken Cobra, FLP President. Thank you so much, sir for

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01:08:41,640 --> 01:08:44,439
Speaker 1: joining us and talking about these important topics. Looking forward

1265
01:08:44,439 --> 01:08:45,360
Speaker 1: to having you back on again.

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01:08:46,280 --> 01:08:46,479
Speaker 3: Thanks.

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01:08:46,520 --> 01:08:47,439
Speaker 2: Brian Solways a pleasure.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, brother. Seven oh six at fifty five KRC

1269
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Speaker 1: Decox Station, Brian Thomas right here. Always looking forward to

1270
01:09:07,880 --> 01:09:10,639
Speaker 1: talking with Congressman Warren Davidson and a man who's willing

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01:09:10,640 --> 01:09:11,960
Speaker 1: to come on the fifty five Carcy Morning Show to

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01:09:11,960 --> 01:09:13,880
Speaker 1: talk about important issues, and God bless him for it,

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01:09:13,960 --> 01:09:16,639
Speaker 1: and God bless those in the eighth District, the district

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01:09:16,720 --> 01:09:19,880
Speaker 1: that he serves for electing Congressman Davidson. Welcome back, my friend.

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Speaker 1: It's always a pleasure to have you on the fifty

1276
01:09:21,280 --> 01:09:22,320
Speaker 1: five KRS Morning Show.

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01:09:23,560 --> 01:09:24,400
Speaker 11: Yeah, always an honor.

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01:09:24,479 --> 01:09:25,120
Speaker 6: Nice to talk with you.

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01:09:25,200 --> 01:09:27,280
Speaker 1: Brian, starting out with a simple question, was this trip

1280
01:09:27,360 --> 01:09:30,040
Speaker 1: really necessary? Of course, the Epstein files. Donald Trump signed

1281
01:09:30,080 --> 01:09:32,120
Speaker 1: the bill to release the Epstein files. We got thirty

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Speaker 1: days for the Justice Department to probably make a heapload

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Speaker 1: of redactions before producing them, which will result in arguments

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Speaker 1: over whether the redactions were necessary or not. But we're

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Speaker 1: finally getting them overwhelmingly voted in favor of doing this.

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Speaker 1: I guess my initial question for you, Congressman Davidson, do you,

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Speaker 1: because I asked this the Congressman Massy the other day,

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Speaker 1: kind of one of the guys behind this, this whole effort,

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Speaker 1: do you have any reason to understand Donald Trump's flip

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Speaker 1: flopping from promising to really used them on the campaign

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Speaker 1: trail to getting elected and then saying no, there's nothing

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Speaker 1: there and we don't have anything to release, to then

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Speaker 1: changing tune after pressure from Congressman Massey and others to

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Speaker 1: release the files, to be unanimously voted on to release

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Speaker 1: them by both the House and Senate. I mean, I'm

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Speaker 1: just wondering how what happened, How did this end up being,

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Speaker 1: what became of it, What was the reason for this

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Speaker 1: flip flop?

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Speaker 11: Well, honest, we probably will never know why he went

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Speaker 11: from saying, you know, we have to do this on

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Speaker 11: the campaign trail to saying at one point that it's

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Speaker 11: a hoax and you know, we just needed to drop it.

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Speaker 11: It's another Democrat effort to just really target him. But

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Speaker 11: that's the main interest Democrats have it. They never put

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Speaker 11: an answer pressure on Barack Obama or Eric Holder or

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Speaker 11: frankly even Trump in his first term to go after Epstein.

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Speaker 11: Then when Biden was there no pressure on Biden or

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Speaker 11: Merrick Garland. So it's all just a desperate attempt to

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01:11:01,520 --> 01:11:04,960
Speaker 11: try to get any any taint of anything on Trump.

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Speaker 11: And and so I think that's where Trump's like, no,

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Speaker 11: you're just going to try to put something in the

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Speaker 11: headlines and go after him. I think there's other reasons there.

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Speaker 11: Speaker Johnson's also very reluctant to see unredacted information being

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Speaker 11: made public. He laid out some of those concerns. He

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Speaker 11: feels like it could harm national security. And I think

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Speaker 11: that's the implication is is, well, look, if we've got

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Speaker 11: intelligence services or frankly allies with intelligence services that are

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Speaker 11: trafficking miners, we got to find a different way to

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01:11:35,479 --> 01:11:39,599
Speaker 11: do intelligence, you know, and that should come out. Honestly,

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Speaker 11: that should come out, yes, and you should find a

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Speaker 11: way to work through it. I mean, it's a scandal

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Speaker 11: to cover it up. So there's going to be speculation

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Speaker 11: because like, way, how is it that Pam Bondi's got

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Speaker 11: binders full of information and ready to release it? What

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Speaker 11: was in the binders? I mean, there was apparently a

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Speaker 11: plan to go forward and then suddenly it was like

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Speaker 11: cold turk, you know, nothing to see here, Let's move on.

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Speaker 11: I don't know that we're ever going to get an

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Speaker 11: honest explanation for that, But Pam Bondy was supposed to

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Speaker 11: come explain that to Congress while we had the shutdown

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Speaker 11: going on. She's supposed to come testify, So hopefully that's

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Speaker 11: in the pipeline again. But honestly, I think one of

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Speaker 11: the best panels that could be done would have Pam

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Speaker 11: Bondy the current attorney general, the two previous the three

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Speaker 11: or four previous attorneys general, Merrick Garland from Biden's administration,

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Speaker 11: Bill Barr and Jeff Sessions from Trump's term, and go

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Speaker 11: all the way back to Eric Holder. He didn't do

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Speaker 11: anything either. So how with all these previous attorney generals

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Speaker 11: and all the public things that have gone on about

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Speaker 11: Jeffrey Epstein and his clients and client lists and trafficked women,

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Speaker 11: and finally, ultimately during Trump's first term, you know, Epstein

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Speaker 11: was prosecuted, and so was Julane Maxwell. So what's the

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Speaker 11: story on this case. I mean, that's what people want

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Speaker 11: to know. And when you put Julane and Maxwell, Julane

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Speaker 11: Maxwell in prison for trafficking miners, Yeah, well they were

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Speaker 11: trafficked to somebody. Yeah, we cure the rest of the prosecutions.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the whole thing. All of this invites speculation

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Speaker 1: and legitimate speculation. You know, Epstein's been previously identified as

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Speaker 1: maybe it was a CIA asset. How did a pedophile

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Speaker 1: become a CIA operative or asset? And you know the

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Speaker 1: other thing about the Democrats, Congressman David said, you know

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Speaker 1: this more than anybody. They made stuff up about Trump

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Speaker 1: to go after him. The steel dott was whole cloth invention.

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Speaker 1: They lie. Then we find out now that January sixth, well,

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Speaker 1: you know, the pipe bombs being planted by probably an

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Speaker 1: FB are a Capitol Police officer now working for the CIA,

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Speaker 1: the point of that being to draw people's attention to

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Speaker 1: the bombs and shut the government down. I mean, we

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Speaker 1: don't have any trust out there in so far as

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Speaker 1: that goes. But since they made so much stuff up

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Speaker 1: about Trump and tried to capture him with me up. Intel.

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Speaker 1: If there was something in these documents with all the

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Speaker 1: people that had the Department of Justice was weaponized against

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump, they would have released them, wouldn't they If

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Speaker 1: there was something real in there about Trump?

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Speaker 11: Yeah, they would have one hundred percent they would have.

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Speaker 11: And look even when they tried, you know, last week

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Speaker 11: earlier this week to selectively release some references in email,

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Speaker 11: they redacted the name of the person that was in

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Speaker 11: the email, and she's been public saying Donald Trump was helpful,

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Speaker 11: he didn't do anything bad. So they are selectively trying

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Speaker 11: everything possible. And here's the thing. Talk about the no

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Speaker 11: moral outrage, how dad Donald Trump communicate with Jeffrey Epstein

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Speaker 11: And they're going back to like two thousand and four

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Speaker 11: in the nineties, well, post conviction. Stacy Plaskett, the delegate

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Speaker 11: from virgin Islands, is real time texting with Jeffrey Epstein

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Speaker 11: for what purpose?

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Speaker 2: To try to get Trump?

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Speaker 11: Yeah, oh, we got to find some way to go

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Speaker 11: after Trump. And they're real time got pictures of her

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Speaker 11: in the hearing texting, and then you got the text thread.

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Speaker 11: And that was because not because of the Epstein files,

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Speaker 11: but because Speaker Johnson and the House oversight team Jamie

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Speaker 11: Kmer led a subpoena to get records from the Epstein estate,

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Speaker 11: So you're getting extra information. So look, I think a

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Speaker 11: lot of the information was forthcoming. Anyway that can be done.

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Speaker 11: But to your point, and I think where a lot

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Speaker 11: of people are when I talk to them, is you know, yeah,

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Speaker 11: that's great. We don't really need more rage bait from Congress.

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Speaker 11: When is somebody going to jail?

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Speaker 12: You know?

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Speaker 11: And I think that's the frustration. We want evidence coming

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Speaker 11: out at trial where people are put on trial and

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Speaker 11: convicted if.

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Speaker 3: They were.

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Speaker 11: Girls that were paid for this stuff, right exactly. So

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Speaker 11: so that's the thing I mean, I think only Pambondi

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Speaker 11: and frankly the other attorneys general can answer that question,

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Speaker 11: like where are the prosecutions and if there's an explanation,

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Speaker 11: we'll let us have it and look at it. In

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Speaker 11: the speculation, either this guy was intelligence affiliated or he wasn't.

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Speaker 11: That was the reference to alex Acosta when he was

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Speaker 11: going to prosecute in and they did a settlement in

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01:16:19,479 --> 01:16:22,720
Speaker 11: a very friendly one frankly for someone you know, doing

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Speaker 11: what Epstein was doing.

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Speaker 1: No question about it. Well, the first the the first victim,

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Speaker 1: I mean, you can name others. Treasury Secretary Larry Summer's

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Speaker 1: now resigned from his board on open ai Elsa stepped

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Speaker 1: down from position at Harvard. He was texting back and

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Speaker 1: forth with Epstein seeking dating advice on it, how to

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Speaker 1: go to bed with some female mentee whose dad was

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Speaker 1: member of the Chinese Communist Party. So there's that. But

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Speaker 1: then you had Congressman Mass saying he relied on US

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Speaker 1: attorney or US Attorney's office files with the Southern District

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Speaker 1: of New York, and he said out loud. Previously after

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Speaker 1: deposing cash Bettel, he said the files include a Hollywood

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Speaker 1: producer with worth a few hundred million dollars, one royal prince,

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Speaker 1: one high profile individual in the music industry, very prominent banker,

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Speaker 1: high profile government official, one high profile former politician, one

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Speaker 1: owner of a car company in Italy, one rock star,

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Speaker 1: one magician. At least six billionaires, including a billionaire from Canada.

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Speaker 1: Where's pressure? Do you know of any pressure being put

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Speaker 1: placed on senators or representatives behind the scenes saying don't

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Speaker 1: release these I am mister one hundred million dollar powerful guy,

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Speaker 1: and you're gonna get hurt as a consequence of releasing them.

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Speaker 1: Do you know, if that was actually going.

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Speaker 11: On at all, well, we know for sure there's a

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Speaker 11: whole lot of overpressure being put on Congressman Thomas Massey

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Speaker 11: to not be doing any of these things, right. You know,

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Speaker 11: there are reports that there were pressure applied to some

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Speaker 11: of the people that had signed the discharged petition, and

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Speaker 11: then the tipping point came like once once the vote

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Speaker 11: is forced. And you know, I never signed the discharge

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Speaker 11: petition because I felt like, yeah, we are making good

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Speaker 11: progress releasing it. The question I want is pam Mondy

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Speaker 11: when the prosecutions So that still was an answer, But okay, fine,

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Speaker 11: release the files once we're going to vote on it.

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Speaker 11: I think overwhelmingly people we're gonna Like I had said

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Speaker 11: last week, you know, I did an interview with CNN

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Speaker 11: and they you know, supposed to talk about the shutdown

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Speaker 11: and reopening the government, and of course they want to

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Speaker 11: bury the lead there, so they go, well, what about

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Speaker 11: the Epstein file When this comes up, how are you

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Speaker 11: going to vote? Like, well, I'm going to vote yes,

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Speaker 11: but but I think the bigger picture is, yeah, sure,

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Speaker 11: disclose them. There may be something there that isn't already

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Speaker 11: being disclosed, So fine, disclose it. But the real underlying

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Speaker 11: question still is where are the prosecutions? When is someone

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Speaker 11: going to jail? And disclosure isn't going to answer that?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And those those FBI files, apparently they must create

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Speaker 1: one of these files every time someone comes to them

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Speaker 1: with information about a crime. Those haven't been released yet.

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Speaker 1: Those are all the victim's statements. FBI had those. Why

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Speaker 1: wasn't anything done about it? Well, this is what will

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Speaker 1: be revealed, hopefully if the documents are indeed produced within

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Speaker 1: thirty days as they've been directed to by law. We'll

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Speaker 1: continue with Congressman Warren Davidson. Find out what's next the

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Speaker 1: talk station seven twenty here fifty five care see the

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Speaker 1: talk station Happy Friday Eve. Brian Thomas here with Congressman

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Speaker 1: Warren Davidson, moving past the Epstein file. Now that that's

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Speaker 1: no longer a distraction, at least less of a distraction.

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Speaker 1: The government's shutdown was all over the Democrats' efforts to

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Speaker 1: extend the tax credits for people making north of what

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Speaker 1: sixty two five hundred dollars. Those tax credit extensions are

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Speaker 1: the waiver of the cap was as a consequence of

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Speaker 1: COVID and LO and behold the deadline was approaching, and

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Speaker 1: so the government gets shut down because the Democrats want

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Speaker 1: to make these permanent. I think this has been quite revealing,

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Speaker 1: Congressman Davidson. And I'm wondering whether there's some project, piece

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Speaker 1: of legislation, or proposal to fix the problem, which is

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Speaker 1: the cost of medical care. This reveals the insane reality

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Speaker 1: of Obamacare being fundamentally broken. If you think about it,

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Speaker 1: a family only a four, if you're making north of

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Speaker 1: sixty two to five, you're not eligible for a tax

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Speaker 1: credit for your premium. You might pay as much as

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Speaker 1: two thousand dollars a month for insurance that won't kick

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Speaker 1: in until if you have a family, you've paid twenty

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Speaker 1: one thousand dollars out of pocket. That's not insurance, Congressman Davidson,

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Speaker 1: that is the revelation of a cossal failure.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, I mean this is fundamentally the as Republicans said.

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Speaker 11: When you know, so far Republicans have uniformly opposed Obamacare,

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Speaker 11: or at least refused to get rid of it. That's

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Speaker 11: the famous McCain. Well, okay, I'm not going to vote

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Speaker 11: to get rid of it, but so far Republicans haven't

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Speaker 11: voted for Obamacare. In any way. Right, And here we

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Speaker 11: are with these covid era subsidies that are going to

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Speaker 11: insurance companies, not the individuals, right, expire here at the

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Speaker 11: end of the year. And you know, Democrats, that's one

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Speaker 11: of the long laundry list of one and a half

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Speaker 11: trillion dollars worth of spending that they cite as why

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Speaker 11: they wanted to shut the government down. And look, all

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Speaker 11: that is is to cover up for the fact that

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Speaker 11: Obamacare itself does not work. So of the places to

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Speaker 11: send the subsidies the dumnest places the health insurance companies, right.

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Speaker 11: I mean, the hospitals and doctors have expenses. You could

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Speaker 11: send it to them. But the individuals are the ones

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Speaker 11: that are trying to get cared for, so you could

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Speaker 11: send the money to them. But when you've been sending

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Speaker 11: the money to the health insurance companies they did in

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Speaker 11: lower premiums. Premiums have been going up by double digits

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Speaker 11: every year, the out of pocket maxes keep growing, claims

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Speaker 11: are denied, you get things that are out of network

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Speaker 11: that are crazy. It's like, no, it's in the same

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Speaker 11: building house, it out of network. All these kinds of

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Speaker 11: things have people livid about the current state of health care.

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Speaker 11: Great quality, I mean tremendous doctors and nurses and care,

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01:21:55,000 --> 01:21:58,320
Speaker 11: great tech, but the cost and the payment system is

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01:21:58,439 --> 01:22:03,280
Speaker 11: a disaster. And look it was before Obamacare, but you know,

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Speaker 11: we'd need to be honest. Obamacare did not work as

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Speaker 11: a means of fixing it. And you know, frankly, shame

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Speaker 11: on the House of Representatives because you know, Democrats have

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Speaker 11: kept wanting to say Obamacare is great while hiding the

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Speaker 11: fact that it isn't great. With more subsidies reinforcing you

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Speaker 11: know what for them has to be the brand, Oh,

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Speaker 11: we have to save it. And Republicans haven't trotted out

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Speaker 11: the alternatives. We have lots of them, and I think

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Speaker 11: the reality is you're going to see over the next

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Speaker 11: few weeks some of the Republican plans are finally going

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Speaker 11: to see the light of day and get some press

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Speaker 11: and get some hearings and hopefully some votes.

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Speaker 1: One could only hope. And you know, the whole ideal Obamacare,

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01:22:41,960 --> 01:22:43,960
Speaker 1: it was predicated on the idea that you could be

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Speaker 1: forced to buy it. And that's one thing the Supreme

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01:22:46,439 --> 01:22:48,720
Speaker 1: Court said, no, the Commerce Clause cannot be used as

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01:22:48,720 --> 01:22:51,599
Speaker 1: an affirmative measure to make people do things. It can

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Speaker 1: only be used to restrict people's activities. So once that

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01:22:54,120 --> 01:22:58,200
Speaker 1: went out the door, the entire Obamacare bubble burst. No

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Speaker 1: one wanted this product because of the pediments, the out

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01:23:01,080 --> 01:23:03,719
Speaker 1: of pocket responsibility and liability, so it became an insurer

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Speaker 1: of last resort, and every person with a medical illness

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Speaker 1: went over to Obamacare. And that's why the premiums have

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Speaker 1: gone through the roof, because they're doing nothing but paying claims.

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Speaker 1: And healthy people aren't going with Obamacare because there's a

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Speaker 1: private insurance market out there.

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Speaker 11: Well yeah, and look, the vast majority of people are

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Speaker 11: ensured by their employer, you know. So you know, going back,

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Speaker 11: this is with some people call the original sin of

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Speaker 11: American health care. During World War Two, they put wage

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Speaker 11: caps so you couldn't pay workers more for some stupid

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Speaker 11: FDR reason, and so they said, oh, well, we can't

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Speaker 11: give them more cash, but we could pay for their

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Speaker 11: health insurance. And so that kind of tradition has continued.

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Speaker 11: It's a weird anomaly in the United States, and we've

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Speaker 11: never corrected it because the payer of the bill isn't

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Speaker 11: the consumer of the goods, and so the inflation just

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Speaker 11: has soared for healthcare and as prices got higher, the

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Speaker 11: demand is for more subsidies, which really just masks the

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Speaker 11: underlying that's gone on with the insurance sector. So we

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01:24:06,680 --> 01:24:08,479
Speaker 11: have to get after that and fix it. And I

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01:24:08,520 --> 01:24:12,439
Speaker 11: think President Trump part of what broke Democrats is when

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Speaker 11: he was saying, well, Okay, let's just send the subsidies

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Speaker 11: to individuals instead of the insurance companies. Well, let's put

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01:24:19,400 --> 01:24:21,639
Speaker 11: talking about that. And I think we're going to talk

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Speaker 11: more about that and a whole range of other alternatives,

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Speaker 11: because we can't just keep cutting checks to the insurance

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Speaker 11: companies and counting on them to fix the industry. It

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Speaker 11: clearly hasn't worked well.

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Speaker 1: And that just causes the American taxpayer to shoulder the

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Speaker 1: burden of everything. The premiums aren't just disappearing, they're being

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Speaker 1: masked by a government subsidy. And that just government subsidy

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Speaker 1: means it's coming out of government coffers, meaning the federal

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01:24:44,479 --> 01:24:49,559
Speaker 1: a budget, a deficit inducing thing. So the premiums are

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Speaker 1: still there, many people just weren't seeing them. So now

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01:24:52,240 --> 01:24:55,719
Speaker 1: again the veil has been removed on this Ponzi scheme,

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01:24:55,760 --> 01:24:58,160
Speaker 1: if I can loosely call it that, I'm looking for

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01:24:58,280 --> 01:25:00,360
Speaker 1: good things out of the Republicans on this obs lead

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01:25:00,360 --> 01:25:02,400
Speaker 1: the option of being giving the money directly to people

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01:25:02,479 --> 01:25:05,280
Speaker 1: like school choice, giving the tax dollars to these students

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Speaker 1: and letting them them and the families choose. That seems

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Speaker 1: to me an ideal thing. Noting again that there is

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Speaker 1: a massive private market out there, and I represent a

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Speaker 1: company that deals with people on the private market. Tons

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Speaker 1: of options exist. Just like the federal gunment doesn't want

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Speaker 1: you to believe there's anything but Obamacare a disaster. Gotrs

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Speaker 1: some Rarin Davidson. God bless you, sir for coming on

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Speaker 1: to the fifty five Casey Morning Show. We appreciate what

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01:25:26,160 --> 01:25:28,360
Speaker 1: you do for us and look forward to great things

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01:25:28,439 --> 01:25:31,560
Speaker 1: coming out of Congress as we move forward in the

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Speaker 1: aftermath of the Epstein fight and the government closure fight.

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Speaker 11: Well look, I don't want to let that become a

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Speaker 11: distraction either. I mean, we're getting good things done. The

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Speaker 11: Trump administration's on offense. Things are moving in the right direction,

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Speaker 11: and we should keep that focus. We got to run

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Speaker 11: through the tape and get the rest of our appropriations

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Speaker 11: bills done and fund this government the proper way, which

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Speaker 11: is a smaller, more focused government. But thanks a lot Brian,

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Speaker 11: God bless you and all your listeners.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, sir. Seven twenty seven. If you have KCD

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Speaker 1: talk station, I've been dreaming of a smaller government balk

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Speaker 1: station sewo. If you have KCD talk station, Happy Thursday

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Speaker 1: slash Friday Eve Empower You Seminar tonight, which is typical

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Speaker 1: Tuesdays and Thursdays. Although it was the g Van Fleef

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Speaker 1: Power You Seminar last night, I hope you were able

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Speaker 1: live at three hundred Great Oaks Drive or online by

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Speaker 1: you register in either case to see on the one

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Speaker 1: sixty second anniversary of Gettysburg dress Abraham Lincoln in person

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Speaker 1: live for the Empower You Seminar. Welcome to the program,

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Speaker 1: Abraham Lincoln aka Larry Elliott. It's great to have you

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Speaker 1: on today, Larry Abraham.

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Speaker 9: Yes, yes, it's great to.

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Speaker 6: Be on here today.

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Speaker 9: Yes, sir, Yes, howdy Joe.

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Speaker 3: How are you doing?

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Speaker 1: I'm Brian. Joe's the producer anyway, that's all right. So

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Speaker 1: you've been portraying Abraham Lincoln for what I understand is

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Speaker 1: twenty two years you actually embraced the carry. It's like

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Speaker 1: method acting. You are in the embodiment of Abraham Lincoln

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Speaker 1: when you're doing these presentations. I understand you do this

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Speaker 1: at a lot of schools and other events. How did

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Speaker 1: you get involved with this Abraham Lincoln impersonation? What drove

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Speaker 1: you to that? Larry, Well, the.

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Speaker 8: Long and short of it, as Abe would say, I'm

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Speaker 8: actually from Hodgenville, Kentucky, where Lincoln was born.

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Speaker 9: I've been there, Yes, the birthplace.

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Speaker 1: Yes, we went on a motorcycle my uncle and I

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01:27:26,760 --> 01:27:29,320
Speaker 1: went on a motorcycle trip. That was really cool. That

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Speaker 1: the cabin inside that monument, that that was amazing. That

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01:27:33,200 --> 01:27:36,320
Speaker 1: place was tiny, that cabin that he was born in.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, imagine living in that one room, dirt floor log cabin.

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01:27:41,360 --> 01:27:45,800
Speaker 8: Four folks, I'm all Paul's sister and only room enough

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Speaker 8: for one bed. That would always be given a course

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Speaker 8: to my mama. But in answer to your question, about

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01:27:52,479 --> 01:27:55,920
Speaker 8: twenty two years ago, I had a full beard and

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Speaker 8: my wife said, why don't you enter the lookalike contests,

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Speaker 8: which is always the first Saturday in October, and dress

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Speaker 8: up like Abraham Lincoln and you're you know, you're kind

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Speaker 8: of homely like him, and she's She's actually true. I mean,

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Speaker 8: if God do you have the homely look?

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Speaker 13: I have?

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Speaker 8: The gate is Abraham Lincoln. And I entered the contest

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01:28:16,680 --> 01:28:19,560
Speaker 8: and I did terrible, and one of the Lincolns that

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Speaker 8: was in the contest said, would you.

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Speaker 9: Want to join us?

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Speaker 8: To join us what's called the Abraham Lincoln Association presenters

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01:28:27,880 --> 01:28:31,000
Speaker 8: about two hundred and fifty at the time. And I

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Speaker 8: began to look, and I looked up. You know, well,

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01:28:33,400 --> 01:28:36,680
Speaker 8: what's it like to be an Abraham Lincoln impersonator? We

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Speaker 8: call ourselves presenters because we leave the word impersonator for

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01:28:40,040 --> 01:28:40,839
Speaker 8: Elvis Presley.

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Speaker 9: And so I started going into schools. The schools love it.

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Speaker 8: When I go to about one hundred schools a year

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Speaker 8: and I dress up, of course as Abraham Lincoln.

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Speaker 9: The kids love it.

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Speaker 8: And I've been to fifteen hundred schools over the last

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Speaker 8: twenty two years and get ready to go to about

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Speaker 8: one hundred more here in February, March, and April. And

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Speaker 8: my link Brian to Lincoln is this now Many people

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01:29:12,720 --> 01:29:15,599
Speaker 8: ask me, Oh, you're from Handinville. You must be ken

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Speaker 8: to Abraham Lincoln. I said, no, I'm not, but my

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Speaker 8: link to Lincoln is this my personal Larry Ellie, It's personal.

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Speaker 8: Great great great grandmother Mary Brooks LaRue was the midwife

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Speaker 8: who delivered Abraham Lincoln February twelfth, eighteen oh nine.

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Speaker 1: How about that. That's amazing. Well, the birthplace, your stature,

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01:29:39,439 --> 01:29:42,160
Speaker 1: of course that connection. Plus your wife is named Mary

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01:29:42,280 --> 01:29:44,960
Speaker 1: as well, so a lot of great reasons to be

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Speaker 1: Abraham Lincoln. To characterize Abraham Lincoln. What you're going to

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Speaker 1: be doing tonight beginning at seven pm at the empower

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Speaker 1: you some on our studious three hundred Great Oaks Drive.

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Speaker 1: I'm Bennasise. I want to bring you back because I'll

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Speaker 1: ask you a few questions about Abraham Lincoln's life, and

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Speaker 1: I understand that you offer insights into a lot of

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Speaker 1: interesting inf about Abraham Lincoln that most of us don't

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Speaker 1: know about. So let's bring Larry Elliott aka Abraham Lincoln

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Speaker 1: back after these brief words beginning with Zimmer Heating and

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Speaker 1: air conditioning, the best in the business. They've been keep

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Speaker 1: an area home safe, efficient and comfortable. The talk station

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Speaker 1: seventh thirty nine fifty about kersee talk station Brian Thomas

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Speaker 1: here talking with Larry Elliott aka Abraham Lincoln. He's been

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Speaker 1: sort of serving as the embodiment at Abraham Lincoln, doing

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Speaker 1: presentations at groups and for obviously schools. More than fifteen

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Speaker 1: hundred schools have enjoyed his presentation about the life of

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Speaker 1: Abraham Lincoln. You can do a Q and A and

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01:30:32,600 --> 01:30:35,439
Speaker 1: ask Abraham Lincoln questions because apparently Larry knows everything. There

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01:30:35,479 --> 01:30:38,240
Speaker 1: is no about Abe real quick here, Larry. It's one

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01:30:38,320 --> 01:30:41,439
Speaker 1: thing to look like Abe Lincoln, which you do. Apparently

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01:30:41,479 --> 01:30:44,160
Speaker 1: it's six foot four year slim. You describe yourself as homely.

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Speaker 1: I'll let people draw their own subjective conclusions about that

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01:30:46,960 --> 01:30:49,720
Speaker 1: born in Abraham Lincoln's hometown. It's one thing to look

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01:30:49,840 --> 01:30:52,320
Speaker 1: like him, maybe talk like him, but it's another thing

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01:30:52,360 --> 01:30:55,040
Speaker 1: to know all about him. How did you acquire all

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01:30:55,120 --> 01:30:58,000
Speaker 1: of this, this this wealth of insight into the man

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Speaker 1: who was Abraham Lincoln?

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Speaker 9: Larry, Well, the long and short of it. Brian is

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Speaker 9: reading books.

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Speaker 8: There are currently seventeen thousand books on Abraham Lincoln or

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01:31:13,680 --> 01:31:17,639
Speaker 8: about Abraham Lincoln, more books written on that man than

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Speaker 8: any other person in the world other than Jesus Christ.

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Speaker 8: So it takes a long time to perfect a portrayal

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Speaker 8: of the Lincoln, of Abraham Lincoln. And so a real

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01:31:33,880 --> 01:31:37,080
Speaker 8: quick story that's funny to hear is the first time

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01:31:37,120 --> 01:31:39,640
Speaker 8: I did a portrayal in the school, I asked my

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01:31:39,800 --> 01:31:42,960
Speaker 8: friend to evaluate me, and after which we went to lunch.

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Speaker 8: He's my best friend, and I said, what do you think, Mike?

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Speaker 8: And he didn't say anything, and I said, well, Mike,

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01:31:48,000 --> 01:31:50,680
Speaker 8: what'd you think? And he said, well, don't quit your

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Speaker 8: day job.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, that's what he does.

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Speaker 9: That's what I said, Okay, I guess you love me.

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Speaker 8: And he said it was bad. And so he's a

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Speaker 8: very good critic. So I took some acting lessons and

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Speaker 8: I thought, you know, I'm gonna portray this man. I'm

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Speaker 8: gonna have the same gate as him, try to have

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Speaker 8: the same voice inflection as him, even though we don't

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Speaker 8: know totally what that was. It was kind of a hish,

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Speaker 8: real voice, but just bringing history to the country because

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01:32:24,760 --> 01:32:28,240
Speaker 8: all these kids and most of these folks love Abraham Lincoln,

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01:32:28,280 --> 01:32:32,840
Speaker 8: but they really don't know much about him. So over

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01:32:32,920 --> 01:32:38,400
Speaker 8: the years, I have just crafted a portrayal, a presentation,

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01:32:39,680 --> 01:32:42,080
Speaker 8: and it's a lot of it's different depending on the

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Speaker 8: audience where I am. So tonight's audience will be a

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Speaker 8: little bit different because.

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Speaker 9: I'm gonna be on for an hour.

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Speaker 8: Some places I go to, you know, they only want

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01:32:52,960 --> 01:32:56,400
Speaker 8: me on for twenty or thirty minutes and so, but

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01:32:56,520 --> 01:32:59,080
Speaker 8: I can talk for five hours. I've given that much

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01:32:59,200 --> 01:33:02,640
Speaker 8: time because there's so much to talk about in so

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01:33:02,840 --> 01:33:06,800
Speaker 8: little time. So long and short answer to your question

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01:33:07,120 --> 01:33:10,679
Speaker 8: is just reading book reading reading books and reading books

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Speaker 8: and crafting my own way of elocuting what Abraham Lincoln

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Speaker 8: would say. Everything I will say tonight is authentically accurate.

1723
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Speaker 8: And I hope I'm questioned on anything because I think

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01:33:24,520 --> 01:33:25,800
Speaker 8: I'll have the answer, but I might not.

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Speaker 9: So long and short of it, that's answer your question.

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Speaker 1: Well, that's amazing and fun fact I learned today that

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01:33:33,080 --> 01:33:34,800
Speaker 1: many books are written about Abraham Lincoln. I guess I

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01:33:34,840 --> 01:33:39,040
Speaker 1: shouldn't be surprised about that. This, I would hope, and

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01:33:39,120 --> 01:33:41,160
Speaker 1: I'm encouraging that this kind of goes with that saying,

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Speaker 1: since you quite often do this presentation for school children

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01:33:44,439 --> 01:33:47,479
Speaker 1: and younger people, that maybe get them around to tell

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01:33:47,640 --> 01:33:50,479
Speaker 1: or the screen tonight or over to the seminar of

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01:33:50,520 --> 01:33:53,040
Speaker 1: the classroom, because they're certainly going to enjoy this, but

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01:33:53,200 --> 01:33:56,479
Speaker 1: adults will presumably be there as well. I guess I

1735
01:33:56,560 --> 01:33:58,920
Speaker 1: want to offer a question to you, because you do

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01:33:59,000 --> 01:34:00,519
Speaker 1: have insights that are not well well, No, we know

1737
01:34:00,600 --> 01:34:02,760
Speaker 1: about the Gettysburg address, we know about the Civil War,

1738
01:34:02,880 --> 01:34:04,960
Speaker 1: we know about his connection with ending slavery, a lot

1739
01:34:05,000 --> 01:34:06,640
Speaker 1: of the fun facts that were all no, But what

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01:34:07,600 --> 01:34:11,040
Speaker 1: pull out randomly some interesting things that you find fascinating

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Speaker 1: about Abraham Lincoln the most people aren't even aware of.

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Speaker 8: Well, Abraham Lincoln was thought of as an abolitionist, and

1743
01:34:19,960 --> 01:34:21,720
Speaker 8: that's the last thing he was.

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Speaker 7: Now.

1745
01:34:22,120 --> 01:34:24,680
Speaker 8: He was against slavery. He was taught in Kentucky. If

1746
01:34:24,760 --> 01:34:28,639
Speaker 8: slavery isn't wrong, nothing is wrong. He saw slaves going

1747
01:34:28,720 --> 01:34:34,200
Speaker 8: down to Louisville Nashville Road dirt road in eighteen or

1748
01:34:34,240 --> 01:34:36,120
Speaker 8: eighteen fifteen as a six year old boy.

1749
01:34:36,160 --> 01:34:37,040
Speaker 9: He knew it was wrong.

1750
01:34:37,600 --> 01:34:42,000
Speaker 8: His father was a member of the very conservative anti

1751
01:34:42,160 --> 01:34:48,760
Speaker 8: slavery church, and his father moved to Indiana partly on

1752
01:34:48,840 --> 01:34:51,720
Speaker 8: account of slavery, because Indiana was opening up as a

1753
01:34:51,840 --> 01:34:54,120
Speaker 8: free state in eighteen sixteen.

1754
01:34:55,240 --> 01:35:00,839
Speaker 9: And so Lincoln from his early years the new slavery

1755
01:35:01,080 --> 01:35:01,479
Speaker 9: was wrong.

1756
01:35:01,680 --> 01:35:04,479
Speaker 8: He began to put two and two together that you know,

1757
01:35:04,720 --> 01:35:08,880
Speaker 8: the Decoration of Independence, that a all men are created equal.

1758
01:35:10,360 --> 01:35:16,439
Speaker 8: What's with the Founding Fathers allowing slavery in the greatest document,

1759
01:35:16,640 --> 01:35:20,360
Speaker 8: the Constitution, the world has ever known. But what many

1760
01:35:20,400 --> 01:35:24,439
Speaker 8: folks don't know, Brian, is the Founding Fathers fifty two

1761
01:35:24,520 --> 01:35:31,160
Speaker 8: of the fifty six where Judeo Christian Christians, and they

1762
01:35:31,760 --> 01:35:36,160
Speaker 8: many of them had slaves, they had inherited slavery. And

1763
01:35:36,600 --> 01:35:39,840
Speaker 8: we had just won the American Revolutionary War, and it

1764
01:35:39,960 --> 01:35:41,559
Speaker 8: was time to do away with slavery.

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01:35:41,640 --> 01:35:46,760
Speaker 9: But they couldn't because the South would not compromise. For

1766
01:35:46,880 --> 01:35:49,000
Speaker 9: they said, if we have to have if we have

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01:35:49,120 --> 01:35:49,720
Speaker 9: to do away with.

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01:35:49,800 --> 01:35:53,240
Speaker 8: Our slaves here now after the American Revolutionary War, well

1769
01:35:53,400 --> 01:35:57,160
Speaker 8: we're not going to join these northern states that had

1770
01:35:57,240 --> 01:35:58,759
Speaker 8: all but abolish slavery.

1771
01:35:59,800 --> 01:36:04,519
Speaker 9: So as the war began, most folks thought.

1772
01:36:04,400 --> 01:36:08,599
Speaker 8: That Abraham Lincoln would let the South go, but he said,

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01:36:08,960 --> 01:36:11,880
Speaker 8: right after the first shot was fired, this nation is

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Speaker 8: worth fighting for to secure such an inestimable jewel. A

1775
01:36:16,439 --> 01:36:20,400
Speaker 8: portion of the people cannot destroy what the whole people created.

1776
01:36:20,479 --> 01:36:25,799
Speaker 8: I must save this government. So what the bigger picture

1777
01:36:25,880 --> 01:36:28,679
Speaker 8: that folks need to know is that at Abraham Lincoln

1778
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Speaker 8: had let them go, let the eleven states go, that seceded,

1779
01:36:33,800 --> 01:36:39,679
Speaker 8: we would probably be an entirely different looking country today. Yeah,

1780
01:36:39,680 --> 01:36:42,599
Speaker 8: and so that'll be a good part of my program

1781
01:36:42,880 --> 01:36:45,719
Speaker 8: tonight to let the people know just you know, Abraham

1782
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Speaker 8: Lincoln Brian single.

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01:36:47,360 --> 01:36:50,559
Speaker 9: Handedly saved our nation.

1784
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Speaker 6: And if you come.

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Speaker 9: Tonight, I'm going to give you a DVD of the Daniel.

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01:36:55,400 --> 01:37:00,760
Speaker 8: Da Lewis video twelve years ago portraying Lincoln getting the

1787
01:37:00,800 --> 01:37:05,080
Speaker 8: Emancipation Proclamation passed as the Thirteenth Amendment January thirty first,

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Speaker 8: eighteen sixty five.

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Speaker 1: Well, that's wonderful. It's an extras center for people to

1790
01:37:09,080 --> 01:37:10,840
Speaker 1: show up at three hundred graae Oaks Drive tonight at

1791
01:37:10,880 --> 01:37:13,519
Speaker 1: seven pm to hear you speak. Yes, three do you

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Speaker 1: ever give a d It's not a question I would

1793
01:37:15,920 --> 01:37:18,280
Speaker 1: think a young person would ask, but I imagine adult

1794
01:37:18,360 --> 01:37:20,559
Speaker 1: might ask because I've heard this many times over the years. Yes,

1795
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Speaker 1: I agree with everything you said. That our country would

1796
01:37:22,840 --> 01:37:25,080
Speaker 1: not be the way it is now but for Abraham Lincoln,

1797
01:37:25,240 --> 01:37:27,840
Speaker 1: is you know, demanding that the Union remain intact? But

1798
01:37:28,240 --> 01:37:30,719
Speaker 1: what of the question of the foundation of our country

1799
01:37:30,760 --> 01:37:32,479
Speaker 1: and the declaration of independence? We have a right to

1800
01:37:32,520 --> 01:37:35,280
Speaker 1: self determination. If the government is not honoring our wishes

1801
01:37:35,320 --> 01:37:37,439
Speaker 1: and serving our interests, then we have a right to

1802
01:37:37,479 --> 01:37:40,240
Speaker 1: break free. Isn't that the argument that many advance on

1803
01:37:40,320 --> 01:37:42,519
Speaker 1: behalf of the South. Listen, you had no right to

1804
01:37:42,600 --> 01:37:44,360
Speaker 1: force them to stay or go to war with them

1805
01:37:44,400 --> 01:37:45,679
Speaker 1: over staying they wanted to leave.

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Speaker 8: Well, indeed, you know, the South said it had nothing

1807
01:37:51,040 --> 01:37:55,560
Speaker 8: to do with slavery, which is absolutely wrong. Right, it

1808
01:37:55,680 --> 01:38:01,040
Speaker 8: had everything to do with what the Founding fathers vision was.

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01:38:01,320 --> 01:38:05,200
Speaker 8: Lincoln was ahead of his time in a sense, you know,

1810
01:38:05,240 --> 01:38:08,720
Speaker 8: the Founding Fathers. You know, Lincoln said this that no

1811
01:38:08,920 --> 01:38:12,960
Speaker 8: state can leave the Union without the consensus of the others.

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01:38:13,120 --> 01:38:18,560
Speaker 8: We must stay together to preserve this wonderful constitution, a

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01:38:18,680 --> 01:38:22,280
Speaker 8: declaration of the people, by the people, and for the people.

1814
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Speaker 9: What we must.

1815
01:38:23,040 --> 01:38:29,160
Speaker 8: Realize is in eighteen sixty the world was still about

1816
01:38:29,320 --> 01:38:33,519
Speaker 8: kings and tyrants and dictators, and the world wanted us

1817
01:38:33,640 --> 01:38:38,040
Speaker 8: to fail. They wanted this new government to fail. And

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01:38:38,320 --> 01:38:42,080
Speaker 8: Lincoln said, no, this Union is the world's best hope

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01:38:42,160 --> 01:38:48,400
Speaker 8: for democracy. I must save this government. So he single

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01:38:48,520 --> 01:38:52,360
Speaker 8: handedly he could have let them go, and you know,

1821
01:38:52,520 --> 01:38:54,920
Speaker 8: there would have been peace. And in the middle of

1822
01:38:54,960 --> 01:38:58,600
Speaker 8: the war, many folks said, how many more soldiers Americans

1823
01:38:58,720 --> 01:39:01,760
Speaker 8: killing Americans? Miss as your president, you call yourself and

1824
01:39:01,880 --> 01:39:04,680
Speaker 8: commander in chief. How many more soldiers have to die

1825
01:39:05,520 --> 01:39:07,560
Speaker 8: in order before you will let them go? And he

1826
01:39:07,680 --> 01:39:10,880
Speaker 8: said as many as it takes to preserve the union.

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Speaker 3: Wow.

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Speaker 1: Well, this is going to be absolutely fascinating. The portrayal

1829
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Speaker 1: of Abraham Lincoln. I my guest today, Larry Elliott, tonight

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Speaker 1: seven pm. Empower Youeamerica dot Org. I recommend you show up.

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01:39:21,600 --> 01:39:23,439
Speaker 1: It's going to be wonderful to see and live at

1832
01:39:23,479 --> 01:39:26,559
Speaker 1: three hundred Great Oaks Drive, but online if you can't

1833
01:39:26,600 --> 01:39:27,960
Speaker 1: make it in person. But if you do show up,

1834
01:39:27,960 --> 01:39:30,040
Speaker 1: you got that DVD waiting for you. Thank you, Larry

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01:39:30,080 --> 01:39:31,960
Speaker 1: for doing that. I appreciate what you're doing all the

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01:39:32,040 --> 01:39:35,000
Speaker 1: time with this presentation, giving people an eye full of

1837
01:39:35,120 --> 01:39:38,160
Speaker 1: history and putting some context in this very complicated man

1838
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Speaker 1: who was Abraham Lincoln President during extremely complicated times. Thanks again, Larry.

1839
01:39:43,680 --> 01:39:44,840
Speaker 1: I wish you all the luck in the world. I

1840
01:39:44,880 --> 01:39:47,040
Speaker 1: don't think you need it, but enjoy the presentation tonight.

1841
01:39:47,080 --> 01:39:51,439
Speaker 1: I hope it's well attended. Seven fifty four. If it's

1842
01:39:51,479 --> 01:39:53,559
Speaker 1: five kre CD talk station, that should be a fun

1843
01:39:53,600 --> 01:39:56,000
Speaker 1: seminar tonight, very interesting too, and we're going to continue

1844
01:39:56,000 --> 01:39:57,800
Speaker 1: with them after the top of the R news. Timcgrath

1845
01:39:57,880 --> 01:40:02,280
Speaker 1: with the book Three Roads to Gettysburg. Yeah, and it's

1846
01:40:02,600 --> 01:40:07,080
Speaker 1: subtitled Mead and the eighty eighth Person's name Lee Lincoln

1847
01:40:07,160 --> 01:40:09,360
Speaker 1: and the Battle That Changed the Nation. So that'll be

1848
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Speaker 1: after the top of the air news. Plus yay, I

1849
01:40:11,920 --> 01:40:15,040
Speaker 1: heard me. The aviation expert Jay Ratliff returns after a

1850
01:40:15,080 --> 01:40:17,759
Speaker 1: battle with Bell's palsy. Thanks to everyone for the prayers

1851
01:40:17,760 --> 01:40:20,200
Speaker 1: that we sent Jay's way. He's ready to hit the

1852
01:40:20,200 --> 01:40:22,320
Speaker 1: ground running at the bottom of the next hour. And

1853
01:40:22,439 --> 01:40:28,439
Speaker 1: don't be these people. It's Thanksgiving next week. I love Thanksgiving.

1854
01:40:28,479 --> 01:40:31,600
Speaker 1: I have nothing but just beautiful, beautiful memories. Growing up,

1855
01:40:31,640 --> 01:40:33,720
Speaker 1: it was a family gathering all you know, you see

1856
01:40:33,720 --> 01:40:36,000
Speaker 1: people and uncles and aunts and relatives. We'd all get

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Speaker 1: together and enjoy a feast and everyone seemed to be

1858
01:40:38,120 --> 01:40:41,080
Speaker 1: in a good mood. And that's the way it's been

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Speaker 1: my entire life. And I don't remember ever ever a

1860
01:40:50,680 --> 01:40:54,439
Speaker 1: Thanksgiving devolving because of a political conversation. So with that

1861
01:40:54,560 --> 01:40:57,840
Speaker 1: in mind, ignore every Town for Gun Safety, which puts

1862
01:40:57,880 --> 01:41:02,200
Speaker 1: some Thanksgiving dinner talking points on its website giving you

1863
01:41:02,320 --> 01:41:06,960
Speaker 1: information on dealing with pro gun folks. Pro Second Amendment

1864
01:41:07,000 --> 01:41:10,960
Speaker 1: pros talking points framed around debunking gun myths, giving you

1865
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Speaker 1: responses to family members who are pro Second Amendment. For example,

1866
01:41:16,000 --> 01:41:17,840
Speaker 1: it says, if a pro Second Amendment family member says

1867
01:41:17,920 --> 01:41:22,160
Speaker 1: guns don't kill people, people kill people every time. For

1868
01:41:22,280 --> 01:41:25,519
Speaker 1: gun safety, says, respond by saying people with guns kill

1869
01:41:25,600 --> 01:41:32,120
Speaker 1: people and more efficiency efficiently than people without guns. Okay,

1870
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Speaker 1: that does not negate the reality that it's a person

1871
01:41:35,720 --> 01:41:40,879
Speaker 1: choosing to murder another person. In therein lies the societal challenge.

1872
01:41:41,360 --> 01:41:43,080
Speaker 1: Trust me. Look around the rest of the world where

1873
01:41:43,080 --> 01:41:45,559
Speaker 1: they don't have the right to keep in bare arms,

1874
01:41:45,760 --> 01:41:48,200
Speaker 1: they figure out other ways of killing people. Oh, I

1875
01:41:48,240 --> 01:41:50,720
Speaker 1: don't know, like driving a semi tractor trailer truck through

1876
01:41:50,720 --> 01:41:54,760
Speaker 1: a crowd. Yeah, there's a way. Beating people over the

1877
01:41:54,800 --> 01:41:56,920
Speaker 1: head with a guitar. Yes, less efficient than a gun,

1878
01:41:56,960 --> 01:41:59,080
Speaker 1: but it doesn't negate the reality that it is the

1879
01:41:59,200 --> 01:42:03,280
Speaker 1: violent conduct that leads to the carnage, not the firearm.

1880
01:42:03,600 --> 01:42:06,840
Speaker 1: And the best person to dispatch someone who is in

1881
01:42:06,960 --> 01:42:10,919
Speaker 1: a murdery mood is a person law abiding with a firearm.

1882
01:42:11,040 --> 01:42:16,200
Speaker 1: It goes on, But my advice is, don't talk about Trump,

1883
01:42:16,760 --> 01:42:20,040
Speaker 1: don't talk about firearms, don't talk about global warming one

1884
01:42:20,160 --> 01:42:25,800
Speaker 1: day of the year, enjoy friends and family. If you're

1885
01:42:25,920 --> 01:42:28,559
Speaker 1: fortunate enough like I have my entire life to enjoy

1886
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Speaker 1: the company of family on Thanksgiving, and I sure as

1887
01:42:31,880 --> 01:42:36,560
Speaker 1: hell hope that you are in that realm. I truly do.

1888
01:42:37,640 --> 01:42:40,400
Speaker 1: But even if you aren't, let's try to make it

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Speaker 1: a plus side day. We have a lot to be

1890
01:42:42,840 --> 01:42:45,240
Speaker 1: thankful for. And if you've lost sight of a lot

1891
01:42:45,280 --> 01:42:47,360
Speaker 1: to be thankful for in this country, then you just

1892
01:42:47,479 --> 01:42:51,080
Speaker 1: sit back and take a pause and contemplate life elsewhere.

1893
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Speaker 1: Seven fifty five CACITY Talk Station Tim McGrath with the

1894
01:42:55,080 --> 01:42:57,479
Speaker 1: book Three Roads of Gettysburg plus Jay Ratliff coming up.

1895
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Speaker 1: Hope you can stick around today's top headlines.

1896
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Speaker 11: Got destroy about this now more than ever listen as

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Speaker 11: often as fifty five KRC the talk station.

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Speaker 1: Ato six. Here at fifty five KRCD Talk Station. Happy

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Speaker 1: Friday Eve the return of iHeartMedia Abash expert Jay RAYTLF

1900
01:43:18,240 --> 01:43:19,560
Speaker 1: at the bottom of the ar can't wait for that

1901
01:43:19,720 --> 01:43:22,240
Speaker 1: since Jay's went off for health issues and I was

1902
01:43:22,280 --> 01:43:24,160
Speaker 1: really looking forward to this segment. Welcome to the fifty

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Speaker 1: five KRC Morning Show. Award winning author Tim McGrath, who

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Speaker 1: is continuing the theme. We just talked with a Lincoln

1905
01:43:30,840 --> 01:43:32,800
Speaker 1: portray as he's going to be doing a seminar tonight

1906
01:43:32,880 --> 01:43:35,160
Speaker 1: as Abraham Lincoln. This man has been doing her for

1907
01:43:35,240 --> 01:43:37,519
Speaker 1: twenty two years. Speaking of schools, he looks like Lincoln.

1908
01:43:37,520 --> 01:43:39,839
Speaker 1: He knows everything there is to know about Lincoln. Tim McGrath.

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01:43:39,920 --> 01:43:42,280
Speaker 1: He just told me that seventeen thousand books have been

1910
01:43:42,320 --> 01:43:44,880
Speaker 1: written about Lincoln. I don't know how many books have

1911
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Speaker 1: even mentioned George Gordon Mead, if there are, I don't

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Speaker 1: know who George Gordon Mead is. You've written a book

1913
01:43:50,120 --> 01:43:54,880
Speaker 1: detailing his role in the Battle of Gettysburg Three Roads

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Speaker 1: to Gettysburg, subtitled Mead Lee Lincoln and the Battle to

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Speaker 1: Changed the War, The Speech that changed the Nation. Welcome

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Speaker 1: to the Morning Show, Tim McGrath. It's a real pleasure

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Speaker 1: to have you on.

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Speaker 13: Thank you, mister Thomas. How's life in Cincinnati this morning?

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Speaker 1: Hey, life is always good on a Friday Eve because

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Speaker 1: Tomorrow's Friday ends the weekend. That's my attitude about life.

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Speaker 1: You've written some congratulations on the awardy one, James Monroe

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Speaker 1: a life, give me a fast Ship. You wrote that

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Speaker 1: in John Barry, which is also highly a praise an

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Speaker 1: American hero in the age of sail. What drew you

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Speaker 1: to write about this Three Roads of Gettyburg, the Battle

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Speaker 1: of Gettysburg, but also George Mead. And you're gonna have

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Speaker 1: to give me a little insight into who George Mead

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Speaker 1: was and how important he turned out to be in

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Speaker 1: the course of the war.

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Speaker 13: Sure, and again thanks for having me. Happy to George

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Speaker 13: Mead's an unsung hero of the Civil War, end of

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Speaker 13: our history.

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Speaker 2: He was a.

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Speaker 13: Son coming from a very successful fill health your merchant family.

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Speaker 13: In fact, his dad was a hugely successful financier. Mead

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Speaker 13: was born in kid in Spain during the Napoleonic tail

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Speaker 13: end of the Napoleonic Wars, and his father was worth

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Speaker 13: about had a fortune of about half a million dollars,

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Speaker 13: which would make him easily a billionaire in today's times,

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Speaker 13: and a bit of a hard customer when it came

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Speaker 13: to negotiations and deals. But he lent his fortune to

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Speaker 13: the Spanish government at the end of the Napoleonic Wars

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Speaker 13: and he never got it back. In fact, he wound

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Speaker 13: up in prison twice trying to get it back. So

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Speaker 13: Mead was not born into the better living days of

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Speaker 13: the family. He attended West Point. He was fifteen and

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Speaker 13: graduated nineteenth in his class. He had wanted to be

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Speaker 13: a lawyer, but that door was closed him for economic reasons.

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Speaker 13: West Point is free. But he really had a talent

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Speaker 13: for engineering. Mister Thomas he right before and right after

1951
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Speaker 13: the Mexican War, where he served rather gallantly under Zachary Taylor.

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Speaker 13: He designed and oversaw construction of lighthouses from New Jersey

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Speaker 13: down to the Florida Keys, and while they're not operational,

1954
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Speaker 13: most of them are still standing today. In one instance,

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Speaker 13: he built one on a key where the lighthouse had

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Speaker 13: been washed out twice by hurricanes and decided the best

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Speaker 13: way to do it was to build a skeletal structure

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Speaker 13: with a lighthouse on top and usual quarters on the key.

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Speaker 13: There were two hurricanes that wiped out everything but the lighthouse.

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Speaker 13: It was a very good judge of the ground, which

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Speaker 13: certainly came in handy at Gettysburg.

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Speaker 1: Okay, But with given that background, as brilliant as it

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Speaker 1: may have been in his engineering background, how in the

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Speaker 1: hell did Lincoln end up choosing him to lead the

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Speaker 1: Union army in battle against Robert E.

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Speaker 10: Lee.

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Speaker 13: Well, Lincoln was having a tough time if you're a

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Speaker 13: baseball fan. He was sort of like a better version

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Speaker 13: of George Steinberner. Trying to find managers back in the

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Speaker 13: seventies and eighties. He went to George McDowell, Urban McDowell,

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Speaker 13: George McClellan twice, John Pope, Ambrose bird Side, and lastly

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Speaker 13: fighting Joe Hooker, who had lost a disastrous battle at

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Speaker 13: Chancellorsville in May of sixty three, and kept going back

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Speaker 13: and forth with Hooker do we keep him or not?

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Speaker 13: And finally, on June twenty eighth, Hooker offered his resignation

1976
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Speaker 13: for the emptieenth time, and Lincoln took it and then

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Speaker 13: sent a friend of me, Colonel Hardy, to Frederick, Maryland,

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Speaker 13: where Mead and his corps from the Army of the

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Speaker 13: Potomac were in camp. He woke me up at four

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Speaker 13: point thirty and me thought he was being arrested because

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Speaker 13: he'd gotten into an argument with Hooker when Hooker said

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Speaker 13: that his generals all voted to retreat, and Mead wanted

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Speaker 13: to fight another day at Chancellorsville. So when Hardy told

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Speaker 13: him that Lincoln wanted him to command the Army of

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Speaker 13: the Potomac, he said, I don't want to do it,

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Speaker 13: and Hardy said, this isn't an offer, this is a command.

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Speaker 13: You were ordered to take command of the army. He

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Speaker 13: was a Pennsylvanian, and that might have had something to

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Speaker 13: do with it, because by now a good bit of

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Speaker 13: Lee's army was already in Pennsylvania. So he only had

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Speaker 13: about three days to try to get things organized and

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Speaker 13: moving forward before the Battle of Gettysburg commenced on July first.

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Speaker 1: Well, Sir, was he unproven in battle at that point

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Speaker 1: when he was tapped for that job.

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Speaker 6: No, not at all.

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Speaker 13: He had been an engineer and an aid and a

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Speaker 13: scout Zachary Taylor in the Mexican War, and served very bravely.

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Speaker 13: He had by eighteen sixty two, I had command of

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Speaker 13: his own corps, and at Fredericksburg in December of sixty two,

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Speaker 13: which was a total disaster for the Army of the Potomac.

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Speaker 13: Charging up to Maurice Heights, Lee had a definite high

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Speaker 13: ground to that battle, but Mead's offense of that morning

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Speaker 13: came this close to punching a hole in Lee's line,

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Speaker 13: and he had to withdraw because he was asking for

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Speaker 13: reinforcements to keep going and did not get them. It's

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Speaker 13: sad because after the war there were jet political generals

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Speaker 13: that he had either removed or replaced or whatever.

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Speaker 6: That said.

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Speaker 13: Oh, he didn't even want to fight at Gettysburg. He

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Speaker 13: wanted to retreat from Gettysburg. One of them, most reciferously

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Speaker 13: was a fellow dance Sickles, who's a story in itself.

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Speaker 13: We would need another time to talk about that guy.

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Speaker 1: There's another boy for you, Tim.

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Speaker 6: But.

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Speaker 13: Quite a scalawag. But he wasn't afraid to fight. He

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Speaker 13: was very well seasoned, and while not as well known

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Speaker 13: in the army, he won over their respect and was

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Speaker 13: cheered mightily after that battle and at Apamatics. He was

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Speaker 13: not present at McLean House with Grant and his entourage,

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Speaker 13: but I think he would rather have stayed with his men.

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Speaker 13: And when they got the news and he wrote down

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Speaker 13: the ranks to tell them all, he was cheered rather bravely.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 1: I presume that he learned military strategy well on the

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Speaker 1: ground training in any of the battles he fought. But

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Speaker 1: did they teach military strategy at West Point when he

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Speaker 1: was there?

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Speaker 13: Oh? Sure, But it was also the best engineering school

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Speaker 13: in the Western hemisphere. And Roberty Lee is an amazing engineer.

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Speaker 13: One of the things I found out was that he

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Speaker 13: was sent in the eighteen thirty seven to Saint Louis,

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Speaker 13: which was in danger of becoming dry dock because there

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Speaker 13: was so much silt, sand and debris coming down river

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Speaker 13: the way the current flowed that literally they weren't sandbars

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Speaker 13: so much as islands. And he didn't have the money.

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Speaker 13: He wanted to do things to get things straightened away,

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Speaker 13: but he went the fault isn't here, it's further north,

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Speaker 13: and he went up to the rapids along the river

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Speaker 13: in Iowa des Moines Rapids and further down and came

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Speaker 13: up with the idea of just blowing up little avenues

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Speaker 13: in the rapids and the barriers and increasing the flow

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Speaker 13: of the water.

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Speaker 9: And it worked.

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Speaker 13: He cleaned all that out, which ticked off some Illinois

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Speaker 13: spec laters across on the other side of the river,

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Speaker 13: who figured out, okay, that's going to be a ghost town.

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Speaker 13: We'll set up a new commercial point and make a fortune.

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Speaker 13: I found it ironic that historians and biographers have talked

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Speaker 13: about Abraham Lincoln's two trips as a flatboatman down the

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Speaker 13: Mississippi to New Orleans and how those trips changed him.

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Speaker 3: And hit him so.

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Speaker 13: Hard about the plight of the enslaved enslaved Americans, and

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Speaker 13: that his trips down the Mississippi changed Lincoln. He Leave's

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Speaker 13: trip on the Mississippi changed the Mississippi.

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Speaker 1: That's amazing, so wild how things get connected like that. Now,

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Speaker 1: I want you just to briefly explain how important that

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Speaker 1: the name of the book again, Three Roads of Gettysburg

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Speaker 1: med Lee Lincoln and the battle that changed the war,

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Speaker 1: and the speech that changed the nation. Of course, the

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Speaker 1: speech you're referring to one hundred and ninety second anniversary

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Speaker 1: the Gettysburg addressed the importance of the Battle of Gettysburg

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Speaker 1: boiled down into simpler terms. How important was that battle?

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Speaker 1: And you know what might have happened had Made not

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Speaker 1: been successful, had.

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Speaker 13: Lean won, And it was the three of the bloody estates,

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Speaker 13: the highest amount of casualties in a battle those three days,

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Speaker 13: over fifty thousand between both armies and Mead would have

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Speaker 13: had to have fought another battle, but it would have

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Speaker 13: opened things up for Lee. Do I want to go

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Speaker 13: to Philadelphia? Do I want to go to Baltimore? Do

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Speaker 13: I want to go to Washington? Had had he won

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Speaker 13: the ward there would have been another battle.

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Speaker 6: It would have been.

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Speaker 13: Interesting to see how that turned out. Ironically, neither general

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Speaker 13: was there when the battle started. Lee didn't get to

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Speaker 13: Gettysburg until late in the afternoon, me did not get up,

2077
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Speaker 13: unable to get up till till it was well after nightfall.

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Speaker 13: And by the luck of the draw he had two

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Speaker 13: other Pennsylvania generals, John Reynolds, who had also been offered

2080
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Speaker 13: to the command of the army and had turned it down.

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Speaker 13: But a year earlier Reynolds, for the governor of Pennsylvania,

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Speaker 13: had done some reconnaissant work about if we get invaded,

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Speaker 13: where's the good spot to fight? And he saw the

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Speaker 13: high ground at Gettysburg. There's a legendary little bit of

2085
01:54:27,840 --> 01:54:30,439
Speaker 13: things about the Duke of Wellington when they asked him

2086
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Speaker 13: at the Battle of Waterloo, why did you pick this place?

2087
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Speaker 13: And he said, because I saw it a year ago,

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Speaker 13: and I kept it in my pocket. Reynolds certainly did

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Speaker 13: the same thing. And ironically, while the Confederate Army drove

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Speaker 13: the Union army back and out of Gettysburg, they drove

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Speaker 13: them right to the high ground Reynolds had seen the

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Speaker 13: year before. And after Reynolds died in the morning. Mead

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Speaker 13: sent Winfield Scott Hancock, another Pennsylvanian who he trusted in deplicitly,

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Speaker 13: to go over and say, look, you're in charge of

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Speaker 13: things till I get there. And he saw the ground

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Speaker 13: and sent a courier back to meet, say we know

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Speaker 13: where we're going to fight. And that's pretty much. They

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01:55:12,800 --> 01:55:15,640
Speaker 13: held the high ground and it was a near run thing.

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Speaker 13: You know. The Confederate Army of Northern Virginia came pretty

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Speaker 13: close to breaking the line on July second, and feudalists

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Speaker 13: pickets charge turned out to be. They still broke the

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Speaker 13: line for a brief couple of minutes up on Cemetery

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Speaker 13: Rich and Cemetery Hill.

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Speaker 1: Well, in my understanding of the Gettysburg address, it's so important,

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Speaker 1: and Lincoln would go from train stop to train stop,

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Speaker 1: as I understand, delivered the same address. But there was

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Speaker 1: no internet back then, there was no radio. Of course.

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Speaker 1: It redefined the Civil War, not just as you know,

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Speaker 1: there's you know, the struggle between the North and the

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Speaker 1: South and preserving the Union, but also this idea that

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Speaker 1: we need to achieve human equality. It's a moral war

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Speaker 1: in addition to a political conflict. Am I right about

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Speaker 1: the importance of that.

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Speaker 13: Absolutely, absolutely, mister Thomas. He didn't utter a word of

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Speaker 13: it till that afternoon he had he had a couple

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Speaker 13: of whistle stops, and you know, we were talking. Somebody

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Speaker 13: had said, I just came back I thought at Gettysburg

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Speaker 13: or something like that. Well, you will have to tell

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Speaker 13: me about it, and so forth. But as most people know,

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Speaker 13: he was not the main speaker. He was invited as

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Speaker 13: a not as an afterthought, but as a courtesy thinking.

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Speaker 13: You know, he can say something to wrap things up.

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Speaker 13: And the two hundred and seventy words, there's three different

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Speaker 13: versions to sixty seven to seventy one, but he really

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Speaker 13: welded jefferson sentence. You know that all men are created equal,

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Speaker 13: with what he called a new birth of freedom. And

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Speaker 13: I keep thinking, as we seem to collectively in our

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Speaker 13: country have attention deficit syndrome. Don't history like my generation

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Speaker 13: I'm seventy four learned. We don't teach civics and classes

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Speaker 13: as my generation learned. And so it's it's short, and

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Speaker 13: it's easy to read and understand, and at the same

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Speaker 13: time it's a challenge for each generation of Americans since

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Speaker 13: the Civil War to live up to that premise. You

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Speaker 13: know that a new birth of freedom and all men

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Speaker 13: are created equal. And I think the person who's said

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Speaker 13: it best, mister Thomas, was doctor Barbara Fields and ken

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Speaker 13: Burns's documentary which is thirty five years ago, when she

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Speaker 13: said the Civil War is still being fought and it

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Speaker 13: can still be lost.

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Speaker 1: Tim McGrath, profound words from you in the book Three

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Speaker 1: Roads of Gettysburg, Mead Lee Lincoln and the Battle that

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Speaker 1: changed the War and the speech that changed the nation.

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Speaker 1: Outstanding booked Tim. I'm going to encourage my listeners to

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Speaker 1: go to my blog page if you have Carsey dot com.

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Speaker 1: ORR producer Joe's got a link to your book and

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Speaker 1: a link to how to get it, and I know

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Speaker 1: they will a lot of history buffs in the audience.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate putting pen to paper on this one. Tim.

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Speaker 1: It's been a real pleasure talking with you, and I

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Speaker 1: know my listener's got to love the book. It's take

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Speaker 1: twenty nine fifty both KERCD Talk Station Man Thursdays have

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Speaker 1: not been the same of late. You know how much

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Speaker 1: I love talking to iHeart mediaviation extpert Jay Ratlift and

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Speaker 1: he is back after about of Bell's Palsy. Jay Ratlift's

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01:58:24,200 --> 01:58:25,880
Speaker 1: so happy to have you on. Did you feel the

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Speaker 1: power of prayer coursing through your body from my listening audience,

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Speaker 1: Jay Ratlift, I.

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Speaker 3: Did, indeed, sir, I did. Indeed. In fact, I got

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Speaker 3: a lot of emails after about the second or third

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Speaker 3: week saying hey, I've missed you, and I thought, wow,

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Speaker 3: it took a while for him to miss the fact

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Speaker 3: I wasn't there, But no, I got some very nice

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Speaker 3: emails and a lot of people were chiming in as

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Speaker 3: far as their experiences with Bell's Paulsy and yeah, I

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Speaker 3: was getting ready for church the last Sunday of October,

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Speaker 3: looked in the mirror and the left side of my

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Speaker 3: face was drooping, and I thought, well, that's not right.

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Speaker 3: Stroke straight to the eat. Well, you know that was

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Speaker 3: my first thought. But there was any other stroke related symptoms.

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Speaker 3: And I know that because I have a daughter that's

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Speaker 3: the heart and vascular ICU nurse. But you know, I

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Speaker 3: promised my girls anytime that something didn't look right, off

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Speaker 3: to the hospital I go, and I did, and they

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Speaker 3: quickly assessed me and said it was Belle's palsy viral infection.

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Speaker 3: It was mild and they said, Jay, we don't know

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Speaker 3: if it's going to be days, weeks or months before

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Speaker 3: we were able to get back, you know, to where

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Speaker 3: it's normal. And you know, fortunately it was a mild case.

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Speaker 3: The saddest part was my family didn't seem to mind

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Speaker 3: me talking less, and I think that was I wasn't

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Speaker 3: really ready for that ultra dose of compassion. But no,

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Speaker 3: it it went well. And Buddy, I missed my routine.

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Speaker 3: I yeah, still doing my trading stocks, is still training,

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Speaker 3: but you know the routine of which day it is.

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Speaker 3: As far as my radio stuff as I have stuff

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Speaker 3: around the country, there were days I had to remind

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Speaker 3: myself what day of the week it was, and that

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Speaker 3: was so I'm glad to.

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Speaker 1: Have the routine back, and so are my listening audience

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Speaker 1: and me very much, which I just I find this

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Speaker 1: the segment so fascinating and often quite comical. We will

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Speaker 1: get to a comical one at the tail end of

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Speaker 1: our discussion. This morning, let us talk and you missed

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Speaker 1: out on quite a bit of aviation news. There was

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Speaker 1: wasn't a day or a week that went Biden say, man,

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Speaker 1: I wish Jay Ratliffe was in better tradition. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: guarantee you Joe would have called you for a you know,

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Speaker 1: out of the ordinary segments on some other day of

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Speaker 1: the week because of what was going on. So let's

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Speaker 1: move past the shutdown and let's talk about the Trump

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Speaker 1: administration has decided to withdraw the cash compensation rule that

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Speaker 1: would have required airlines to pay cash for delays. Did

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Speaker 1: the shutdown and all the complications and the literally thousands

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Speaker 1: of flights that were canceled delayed to have anything to

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Speaker 1: do with this decision? What's behind this jay ratlift?

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Speaker 3: Well, well, it's the fact that the Trump administration is

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Speaker 3: a very cozy relationship with airlines. We've talked about this.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, this was a Biden something that Joe Biden

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Speaker 3: his administration put him about a year ago. And this

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Speaker 3: cash compensation rule, which is what we referred to it as, said, Look,

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Speaker 3: if you're a passenger and you're delayed more than three

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Speaker 3: hours or more, you're going to be entitled to cash

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Speaker 3: compensation guaranteed meals, lodging when necessary, and ground transportation when

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Speaker 3: it applies. And of course, when Donald Trump was elected,

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Speaker 3: which I was very glad to see, airline stocks hole

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Speaker 3: went up and people said, well, Jay, why would that

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Speaker 3: be the case? And I said, well, to be candid,

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Speaker 3: there's a very good relationship there was in the first

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Speaker 3: administration between Trump and the airlines and the Biden administration.

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Speaker 3: And you've heard me say this repeatedly. Even though I

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Speaker 3: did not care for it at all, they did try

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Speaker 3: to hold airlines accountable and they did more in that

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Speaker 3: regard than any other presidential administration that I can remember,

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Speaker 3: going back three decades. They absolutely hammered airlines trying to

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Speaker 3: hold them accountable. And then, of course once the Trump

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Speaker 3: administration takes over, and after yes, the airlines donated a

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Speaker 3: million dollars each to the Trump inaugural fund. Blowing was

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Speaker 3: in that line as well. It was like okay, it

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Speaker 3: was just it was there. You knew what was going

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Speaker 3: to happen. And of course Boeing, remember they pleaded guilty

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Speaker 3: to a lot of criminal issues in connection with the

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Speaker 3: Boeing Max crashes that we had a number of years ago.

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Speaker 3: After Trump gets elected, they go back to the Department

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Speaker 3: Transportation asking if they could withdraw some of that and

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Speaker 3: kind of have it revisited, and they did, and they

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Speaker 3: nothing went to trial to find that was it. So

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Speaker 3: it really bothered me, and I wasn't surprised at all

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Speaker 3: because I knew that that was going to go off

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Speaker 3: the table, even though other countries around the world have

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Speaker 3: something similar to this in place. It's the airlines to

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Speaker 3: tell the government what they're going to do many places,

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Speaker 3: and refreshingly, that wasn't the case during the last four years,

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Speaker 3: and I was really glad to see it. But the

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Speaker 3: reality that the Donald Trump administration would continue that same

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Speaker 3: course was a real slight consideration, and I wasn't surprised.

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Speaker 3: I was ticked because I really wanted to see it

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Speaker 3: in place. It needed to be in place, but unfortunately

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Speaker 3: it's not.

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Speaker 1: Well, what would the financial landscape look like if the

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Speaker 1: rules in place and they were required to issue cash

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Speaker 1: compensation for the delays and the cancelations after what happened

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Speaker 1: during the shutdown, Well, let's see.

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Speaker 3: The cat you mean to the airlines, they Delta and

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Speaker 3: United would not be allowed to report or wouldn't be

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Speaker 3: able to report a billion dollars in profits in a

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Speaker 3: single quarter. That's probably the number one thing, because you know,

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Speaker 3: when you're actually being forced to compensate passengers when you

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Speaker 3: screw up. And I'm not talking about weather delays and

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Speaker 3: things like that. But when you intentionally schedule more flights

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Speaker 3: than you know you can pull off, and you're counting

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Speaker 3: on a percentage of those canceling, which happens. That's why

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Speaker 3: they overbook flights. There's going to be a percentage of people.

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Speaker 3: And there's airlines that have thirty five gates available at

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Speaker 3: a time, and they'll schedule forty airplanes to arrive at

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Speaker 3: the same time, counting on five of them being late.

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Speaker 3: Yet will all forty get there at the same time.

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Speaker 3: We five have to be sitting out on the tarmac

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Speaker 3: and you and I been through that.

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Speaker 1: Well, that's culpability there. At least you can point to

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Speaker 1: a decision they made which is exposed as them because

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Speaker 1: they chose to overbook, unlike say an act of God kind.

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Speaker 3: Of thing, which those things wouldn't be covered under this

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Speaker 3: right rule. It would be a late arriving crew, repeating

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Speaker 3: mechanical issues, these types of things that you know squarely

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Speaker 3: could fall on the lap of the airlines. And now

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Speaker 3: what they do when we have those issues, Brian, They'll

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Speaker 3: give us here's five thousand frequent flyers, right, big apology there?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, and I suppose air traffic control is not

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Speaker 1: showing up because of government action or inaction as the case.

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Speaker 1: Maybe that also is isn't the airline's fault? They didn't

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Speaker 1: tell the f the employees who are mandatory or necessary

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Speaker 1: not to show up to work causing problems. So no

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Speaker 1: ripple effects on them.

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Speaker 3: Right, A real quick ps to that. You know airlines

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Speaker 3: were mandated to reduce their flight activity in those forty airports.

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Speaker 1: Yes, they were ordered to, and we'll talk about that next.

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Speaker 1: Because that order mandating reductions over effective this past Monday

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Speaker 1: at six am. Did it have any effect? Are we

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Speaker 1: okay to travel on Thanksgiving? That we will talk about

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Speaker 1: coming up next, among other topics with Jay Ratliffe, the

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Speaker 1: return of Jay Ratliff, What a wonderful thing. Don't go away?

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Speaker 4: Fifty five KRC the talk station.

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Speaker 1: Have you ever been in the cockpit before Jay Ratliffe

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Speaker 1: has the return of Jay Ratliff after a brief health

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Speaker 1: stent with Bell's policy. Is so pleased to have them

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Speaker 1: back on the program. And there was much rejoicing. Okay,

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Speaker 1: the FAA entity emergency order mandating reductions reductions brought about,

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Speaker 1: I guess because while this shutdown was going on in

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Speaker 1: spite of the fact they were guaranteed to get their

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Speaker 1: pay and they are essential employees. Air traffic controllers were

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Speaker 1: choosing to take days off, calling in sick, and I

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Speaker 1: get that on some level maybe they had to go

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Speaker 1: out and get another job, but it happened, and so

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Speaker 1: we had to reduce flights. That's over effected This past

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Speaker 1: Monday at six am. Are things looking good in terms

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Speaker 1: of air traffic control?

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Speaker 3: Now?

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Speaker 1: Have they come back to work? Are we on schedule?

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Speaker 3: Jay Ratliffe, Yeah, we're on schedule. Now. Keep in mind,

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Speaker 3: before the shutdown we still were battling with a shortage

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Speaker 3: of air traffic controllers. Oh, we're averaging averaging per day

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Speaker 3: about thirty nine hundred flight delays a day. So when

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Speaker 3: we get back to normal, we can measure that by

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Speaker 3: are we seeing less than four thousand delayed flights today?

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Speaker 3: If so, yeah, we're right in check. So we have

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Speaker 3: gotten back to that. In fact, airlines have made it

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Speaker 3: clear that look, they're going to have all hands on deck.

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Speaker 3: Schedule is going to be at full capacity for what,

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Speaker 3: in his essence, the busiest travel week of the year,

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Speaker 3: which is the busy Thanksgiving travel period. You have the

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Speaker 3: busiest day of the week Historically the Sunday after Thanksgiving,

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Speaker 3: the second busiest day of the year, is typically the

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Speaker 3: Wednesday before So airlines have made it clear that they

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Speaker 3: do not anticipate any issues for that, and they did

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Speaker 3: say at six am on Monday that those restrictions that

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Speaker 3: they had in place at those forty airports to reduce

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Speaker 3: the traffic by I think it was four or five

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Speaker 3: six percent something along those lines, they were going to

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Speaker 3: increase it to ten percent. We never had to get

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Speaker 3: to that. But the FAA also noted Brian that not

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Speaker 3: all airlines restricted the number of their flights at those

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Speaker 3: airports as they were required to do. Now, the FAA

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Speaker 3: has said for any airline that did not do what

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Speaker 3: they were supposed to, they're going to seek a fine

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Speaker 3: of US seventy five thousand dollars for every flight operated

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Speaker 3: above that mandated limit. Now, I can tell you some

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Speaker 3: airlines are going to be hit with a fine, and

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Speaker 3: I'm going to tell you most of those airlines it's

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02:07:33,520 --> 02:07:36,120
Speaker 3: going to be negotiated down or go away. We're back

2340
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Speaker 3: to that same arrogance of the airlines and the airlines

2341
02:07:38,760 --> 02:07:40,320
Speaker 3: kind of telling the government what they're going to do.

2342
02:07:40,800 --> 02:07:43,280
Speaker 3: Instead of the other way around, and it frustrates me.

2343
02:07:43,720 --> 02:07:46,320
Speaker 3: But that's just the reality of the power of the

2344
02:07:46,400 --> 02:07:48,560
Speaker 3: lobbying group that you really have with the airlines, and

2345
02:07:49,280 --> 02:07:51,240
Speaker 3: it's going to continue to be the case. So I'm

2346
02:07:51,280 --> 02:07:53,800
Speaker 3: excited that they are going to be held accountable with

2347
02:07:53,880 --> 02:07:57,320
Speaker 3: a possible seventy five thousand dollars per flight. Fine, but

2348
02:07:57,480 --> 02:07:58,720
Speaker 3: I know it's not going to stick.

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02:07:59,000 --> 02:08:00,880
Speaker 1: Well if you got them much power, and you know,

2350
02:08:00,920 --> 02:08:02,680
Speaker 1: the fools one that's not looking out for his or

2351
02:08:02,720 --> 02:08:04,960
Speaker 1: her own best interests, you have to at least make

2352
02:08:05,040 --> 02:08:07,360
Speaker 1: the argument that you should lower it. Now you ask

2353
02:08:07,440 --> 02:08:09,280
Speaker 1: him for seventy five thousand, how about we write you

2354
02:08:09,320 --> 02:08:11,840
Speaker 1: a check for ten and hopefully you land someplace in

2355
02:08:11,880 --> 02:08:13,640
Speaker 1: the middle or closer to the lower side if you're

2356
02:08:13,680 --> 02:08:15,640
Speaker 1: the airline. But of course you're going to try to haggle.

2357
02:08:15,720 --> 02:08:18,040
Speaker 1: That doesn't mean the government has to concede to your demands.

2358
02:08:18,080 --> 02:08:21,120
Speaker 3: But I just would like for all it maybe oh

2359
02:08:21,680 --> 02:08:24,680
Speaker 3: fifty thousand in IRS taxes. Can we negotiate that down

2360
02:08:24,760 --> 02:08:26,760
Speaker 3: to like thirty I don't think so.

2361
02:08:27,200 --> 02:08:27,880
Speaker 1: There's some coveny.

2362
02:08:28,240 --> 02:08:28,720
Speaker 6: It's not fair.

2363
02:08:28,840 --> 02:08:31,040
Speaker 1: There's some companies out there that advertise all the time

2364
02:08:31,080 --> 02:08:33,920
Speaker 1: on various radio programs saying they can do exactly that.

2365
02:08:34,120 --> 02:08:36,360
Speaker 1: You know, you're on the hook for the irs for fifty.

2366
02:08:36,160 --> 02:08:39,840
Speaker 3: Grand that's in penalties and things like that. I know

2367
02:08:40,360 --> 02:08:42,640
Speaker 3: if you haven't known what you're supposed to, But Brent,

2368
02:08:43,000 --> 02:08:45,480
Speaker 3: it just bothers me because there's a safety related fine

2369
02:08:45,520 --> 02:08:48,520
Speaker 3: where the fa you know, hit some airline with a

2370
02:08:48,560 --> 02:08:50,760
Speaker 3: four million dollars you didn't do the maintenance you were

2371
02:08:50,760 --> 02:08:53,320
Speaker 3: supposed to find it's negotiated down to like a third

2372
02:08:53,400 --> 02:08:55,440
Speaker 3: of that as long as they promise never to do

2373
02:08:55,560 --> 02:08:57,720
Speaker 3: it again. And it just it just I walk around

2374
02:08:57,800 --> 02:08:59,840
Speaker 3: banging my head off the wall because it's just how

2375
02:09:00,000 --> 02:09:01,680
Speaker 3: are we going to learn a lesson if it doesn't

2376
02:09:02,160 --> 02:09:04,960
Speaker 3: have some teeth in it when you're actually talking about

2377
02:09:05,000 --> 02:09:07,680
Speaker 3: consequences for actions that they knew.

2378
02:09:07,760 --> 02:09:08,200
Speaker 2: Not to do.

2379
02:09:08,680 --> 02:09:10,440
Speaker 1: Well, And you know there's other thing is which is

2380
02:09:10,480 --> 02:09:13,040
Speaker 1: avoiding the problem in the get go by continuing to

2381
02:09:13,080 --> 02:09:17,200
Speaker 1: pay the traffic air traffic controllers during a shutdown. And

2382
02:09:17,200 --> 02:09:18,680
Speaker 1: I know there was a meeting yesterday with the Senate

2383
02:09:18,720 --> 02:09:20,720
Speaker 1: Aviation sub Committee here and they were talking about just

2384
02:09:20,840 --> 02:09:23,200
Speaker 1: that now we could pick areas of government that you've

2385
02:09:23,200 --> 02:09:25,160
Speaker 1: got to pay these people period in the story. Look

2386
02:09:25,200 --> 02:09:27,920
Speaker 1: what happened last time when these particular people weren't paid,

2387
02:09:27,920 --> 02:09:29,240
Speaker 1: they didn't show up, didn't do the job, and we

2388
02:09:29,280 --> 02:09:33,520
Speaker 1: couldn't fly an airplane. I know because I learned during

2389
02:09:33,560 --> 02:09:37,880
Speaker 1: this shutdown that banks will provide government employees with interest

2390
02:09:37,920 --> 02:09:40,120
Speaker 1: free loans, knowing full well that the government is going

2391
02:09:40,160 --> 02:09:41,800
Speaker 1: to pay them back when they go back to work.

2392
02:09:41,840 --> 02:09:44,520
Speaker 1: The money is sound secure. There's no issue with regard

2393
02:09:44,560 --> 02:09:47,200
Speaker 1: to losses. You enter into paperwork, you pay them back

2394
02:09:47,200 --> 02:09:49,560
Speaker 1: when you get your paycheck, no problem. I found out

2395
02:09:49,560 --> 02:09:53,600
Speaker 1: there's something called the Airport and Airway Trust Fund. They

2396
02:09:53,720 --> 02:09:56,160
Speaker 1: have their own trust fund, and there was some discussions

2397
02:09:56,200 --> 02:09:58,840
Speaker 1: about listen, let us tap in the air to this

2398
02:09:58,960 --> 02:10:02,080
Speaker 1: trust fund air employees, and then, of course, like the

2399
02:10:02,160 --> 02:10:04,040
Speaker 1: banks get paid back when they come back to work,

2400
02:10:04,080 --> 02:10:06,080
Speaker 1: we can refund the trust fund. What is wrong with

2401
02:10:06,160 --> 02:10:07,320
Speaker 1: that as a solution.

2402
02:10:07,920 --> 02:10:10,040
Speaker 3: It's Nothing's wrong with it, And it frustrates me. A

2403
02:10:10,080 --> 02:10:14,120
Speaker 3: lot of those things that were available weren't used and utilized,

2404
02:10:14,160 --> 02:10:17,000
Speaker 3: and you had a lot of air traffic controllers, as

2405
02:10:17,040 --> 02:10:19,240
Speaker 3: you mentioned, forced to go do door dash or whatever

2406
02:10:19,360 --> 02:10:21,800
Speaker 3: other job they had so they could get paid and

2407
02:10:21,880 --> 02:10:25,200
Speaker 3: had some money coming in. And I like Donald Trump's

2408
02:10:25,320 --> 02:10:28,320
Speaker 3: President Trump's thought about, hey, let's give every air traffic

2409
02:10:28,400 --> 02:10:30,360
Speaker 3: controller who didn't call in sick during this at ten

2410
02:10:30,440 --> 02:10:33,960
Speaker 3: thousand dollars bonus. There's always things that we can look

2411
02:10:34,000 --> 02:10:37,560
Speaker 3: at doing and sadly and sanely, so every time we

2412
02:10:37,680 --> 02:10:39,720
Speaker 3: go through one of these things, you do have a

2413
02:10:39,800 --> 02:10:42,920
Speaker 3: situation where you've got an air traffic control network that's

2414
02:10:42,960 --> 02:10:47,040
Speaker 3: already stressed. Because remember, if we're three thousand air traffic

2415
02:10:47,120 --> 02:10:50,280
Speaker 3: controllers short as of this moment, you have people working

2416
02:10:50,360 --> 02:10:53,720
Speaker 3: over time. You've got a lot of exhausted people out

2417
02:10:53,760 --> 02:10:55,480
Speaker 3: there that these men and women, they are just trying

2418
02:10:55,480 --> 02:10:57,800
Speaker 3: to keep things rolling. It's going to be the same

2419
02:10:57,840 --> 02:11:00,920
Speaker 3: thing over the holidays of Thanksgiving and from the fifteenth

2420
02:11:00,960 --> 02:11:03,600
Speaker 3: of December to the end of the year, where you

2421
02:11:03,680 --> 02:11:05,920
Speaker 3: know it's going to be stretched. Now, it's not unsafe,

2422
02:11:06,120 --> 02:11:08,560
Speaker 3: but because when we start getting a lot of congestion,

2423
02:11:08,720 --> 02:11:11,080
Speaker 3: the airlines have a throttle back policy where they will

2424
02:11:11,400 --> 02:11:14,840
Speaker 3: reduce the airflow into a certain region based on the

2425
02:11:14,880 --> 02:11:17,160
Speaker 3: air traffic controllers that they have in place. So there

2426
02:11:17,160 --> 02:11:19,640
Speaker 3: are always safety standards that we have there from a

2427
02:11:19,720 --> 02:11:23,240
Speaker 3: minimum that prevent a lot of over taxing where we're

2428
02:11:23,240 --> 02:11:25,800
Speaker 3: trying to put too many flights in a specific area,

2429
02:11:26,080 --> 02:11:28,640
Speaker 3: and that's good to see, and that's why you have

2430
02:11:28,720 --> 02:11:30,640
Speaker 3: the ground stops and the other things that take place

2431
02:11:30,680 --> 02:11:34,000
Speaker 3: when we have an air traffic management situation that occurs.

2432
02:11:34,120 --> 02:11:36,960
Speaker 3: So I don't want anybody to worry with this shortage,

2433
02:11:37,000 --> 02:11:39,200
Speaker 3: but it does cause some headaches, and that's one of

2434
02:11:39,240 --> 02:11:41,600
Speaker 3: the reasons I've been thrilled that President Trump is saying, look,

2435
02:11:41,680 --> 02:11:44,920
Speaker 3: let's get this fix. But when you recognize to get hired,

2436
02:11:44,960 --> 02:11:47,440
Speaker 3: you're five years away from working on your own, it's

2437
02:11:47,480 --> 02:11:50,600
Speaker 3: a process. So we've got to increase the facilities. We've

2438
02:11:50,640 --> 02:11:53,400
Speaker 3: got a shortage of air traffic control trainers. We've got

2439
02:11:53,440 --> 02:11:56,760
Speaker 3: to address that, maybe hiring people from other countries to

2440
02:11:56,800 --> 02:11:58,560
Speaker 3: come in as well. So there's a lot of things

2441
02:11:58,760 --> 02:12:01,640
Speaker 3: in place that we're looking at, and I just hope

2442
02:12:01,680 --> 02:12:04,680
Speaker 3: it continues to remain a priority for President Trump because

2443
02:12:04,680 --> 02:12:07,080
Speaker 3: if he can get this fixed, then for the next

2444
02:12:07,120 --> 02:12:09,800
Speaker 3: fifteen years, things are going to be much better in aviation.

2445
02:12:10,160 --> 02:12:12,800
Speaker 3: The same way if he can address the outdata technology

2446
02:12:13,160 --> 02:12:16,160
Speaker 3: for the next twenty years, that's going to benefit this country.

2447
02:12:16,240 --> 02:12:19,080
Speaker 3: So President Trump is doing some things that other people

2448
02:12:19,120 --> 02:12:22,320
Speaker 3: have talked about. No one has done to any significance,

2449
02:12:22,640 --> 02:12:25,520
Speaker 3: and if he can pull it off, the benefits of

2450
02:12:25,600 --> 02:12:29,200
Speaker 3: him will outlive us with regards to what's taking place.

2451
02:12:29,280 --> 02:12:30,920
Speaker 3: And I'm thrilled to see it, and I just hope

2452
02:12:30,960 --> 02:12:31,480
Speaker 3: it continues.

2453
02:12:31,680 --> 02:12:34,040
Speaker 1: I mean, how many generations if humanity have been born

2454
02:12:34,160 --> 02:12:38,280
Speaker 1: since the end of floppy disc usage? Jay Ratliff and

2455
02:12:38,320 --> 02:12:39,120
Speaker 1: is still using.

2456
02:12:39,000 --> 02:12:42,800
Speaker 3: Fly ground based radar going back to World War Two.

2457
02:12:42,920 --> 02:12:44,560
Speaker 3: You know that's a lot of this stuff is based

2458
02:12:44,600 --> 02:12:47,240
Speaker 3: on too, So it just nuts when you look at it.

2459
02:12:47,400 --> 02:12:49,000
Speaker 1: I'm going to end in a lighter note. Plus, hub

2460
02:12:49,040 --> 02:12:50,720
Speaker 1: delay is coming up. Hey listen if you want a

2461
02:12:50,760 --> 02:12:52,560
Speaker 1: windows if you want to look out a window by

2462
02:12:52,600 --> 02:12:55,320
Speaker 1: a window seat, more with Jay Ratliff after these brief words.

2463
02:12:55,520 --> 02:13:02,200
Speaker 1: Fifty five the the talk station. Hey fifty if if

2464
02:13:02,240 --> 02:13:06,520
Speaker 1: you have kc DE talk station. So nice, hevan Jay Ratliff.

2465
02:13:06,520 --> 02:13:09,640
Speaker 1: I heard media aviation expert back on the program. So

2466
02:13:09,760 --> 02:13:12,120
Speaker 1: happy that he's over the bell's palsy issue. And I

2467
02:13:12,160 --> 02:13:14,000
Speaker 1: guess timing couldn't have been better. As we're getting ready

2468
02:13:14,000 --> 02:13:16,040
Speaker 1: to segue into if you want to view again, get

2469
02:13:16,080 --> 02:13:19,000
Speaker 1: a window seat. I looked up Jay, there's a Babylon

2470
02:13:19,120 --> 02:13:22,560
Speaker 1: b post. I sort of clicked on like and I

2471
02:13:22,640 --> 02:13:24,880
Speaker 1: get their posts from time to time. It's a picture

2472
02:13:24,880 --> 02:13:26,080
Speaker 1: of a guy. It's a picture of a guy in

2473
02:13:26,080 --> 02:13:28,960
Speaker 1: an airline or an airplane holding his head. Headlined mail

2474
02:13:29,080 --> 02:13:33,480
Speaker 1: passenger disappointed after another flight ends without a stewardess, frantically

2475
02:13:33,600 --> 02:13:36,960
Speaker 1: asking if anyone can land the plane, just like it

2476
02:13:37,040 --> 02:13:39,760
Speaker 1: happens in the movies all the time. Anyway, moving absolutely

2477
02:13:40,440 --> 02:13:43,840
Speaker 1: got what. You're not entitled to a view if you're

2478
02:13:43,880 --> 02:13:47,240
Speaker 1: on an airplane unless you're in a window seat, right, Jay, Oh.

2479
02:13:47,320 --> 02:13:51,120
Speaker 3: This is just just maddening, but it is. There's a

2480
02:13:51,200 --> 02:13:55,160
Speaker 3: class action lawsuit that's being brought on by passengers against

2481
02:13:55,200 --> 02:13:59,440
Speaker 3: Delta and United because passengers are paying four window seats

2482
02:14:00,000 --> 02:14:02,600
Speaker 3: and when they board the airplane and they're seated in

2483
02:14:02,760 --> 02:14:06,480
Speaker 3: that seat, there's no window. It's a wall. And the

2484
02:14:06,560 --> 02:14:09,480
Speaker 3: way this happens is when an aircraft is delivered to

2485
02:14:09,520 --> 02:14:12,520
Speaker 3: an airline, it's specifically configured the way the airline wants.

2486
02:14:12,840 --> 02:14:14,600
Speaker 3: We're gonna have x amount of seats up front and

2487
02:14:14,640 --> 02:14:16,360
Speaker 3: premium or first class, and then we're gonna have this

2488
02:14:16,520 --> 02:14:19,880
Speaker 3: many seats and coach, and normally the buffer between the

2489
02:14:19,960 --> 02:14:22,240
Speaker 3: two you won't have a window. It'll just kind of

2490
02:14:22,280 --> 02:14:26,880
Speaker 3: be the wall itself. When an airline will then change

2491
02:14:26,920 --> 02:14:29,400
Speaker 3: the number of seats and coach or first class, the

2492
02:14:29,560 --> 02:14:33,120
Speaker 3: rows get adjusted where everything moves back a bit or

2493
02:14:33,240 --> 02:14:36,480
Speaker 3: forward a bit, and then invariably what happens is you'll

2494
02:14:36,520 --> 02:14:39,800
Speaker 3: have a seat that's moved a whole row where instead

2495
02:14:39,800 --> 02:14:42,040
Speaker 3: of having a window, you're now seated next to that

2496
02:14:42,960 --> 02:14:45,800
Speaker 3: wall where you don't have a window. So keep in

2497
02:14:45,880 --> 02:14:48,680
Speaker 3: mind you're being paid extra, You're being charged extra to

2498
02:14:48,760 --> 02:14:52,880
Speaker 3: sit in a premium seat, a window seat, and passengers saying, look,

2499
02:14:52,920 --> 02:14:54,600
Speaker 3: I paid for a window seat and I'm getting there

2500
02:14:54,640 --> 02:14:57,480
Speaker 3: and I'm next to a wall. I want a window.

2501
02:14:57,600 --> 02:15:01,040
Speaker 3: And now there's this class action loss suit and United

2502
02:15:01,120 --> 02:15:03,120
Speaker 3: has made it clear just because you've paid for a

2503
02:15:03,200 --> 02:15:07,560
Speaker 3: window seat doesn't entitle you to a view. And Brian,

2504
02:15:07,680 --> 02:15:09,920
Speaker 3: every time I've talked about this, I have thought, I

2505
02:15:09,960 --> 02:15:11,440
Speaker 3: can't wait to talk to Brian. I can't wait to

2506
02:15:11,480 --> 02:15:14,320
Speaker 3: talk to Brian because I want to ask you, with

2507
02:15:14,480 --> 02:15:18,840
Speaker 3: your your your extensive law training background, is that an

2508
02:15:18,960 --> 02:15:21,720
Speaker 3: insult or is it a stupid thing to say? Or

2509
02:15:22,520 --> 02:15:25,320
Speaker 3: is that legally you know something that you know United

2510
02:15:25,440 --> 02:15:27,400
Speaker 3: can say just because you paid for a window seat

2511
02:15:27,440 --> 02:15:28,840
Speaker 3: doesn't mean you're entitled to a view.

2512
02:15:29,000 --> 02:15:30,400
Speaker 1: They'd only be entitled to say that if there was

2513
02:15:30,440 --> 02:15:33,000
Speaker 1: a disclaimer saying exactly what you just said. You know,

2514
02:15:33,320 --> 02:15:35,480
Speaker 1: because you ordered a window seat doesn't necessarily entitled you

2515
02:15:35,560 --> 02:15:39,000
Speaker 1: a window seat. And they can even give the explanation why.

2516
02:15:39,120 --> 02:15:43,360
Speaker 1: But if they say windows seat without any qualification or caveats,

2517
02:15:43,400 --> 02:15:45,480
Speaker 1: and they are false advertising if they put you in

2518
02:15:45,520 --> 02:15:46,440
Speaker 1: a seat without a window.

2519
02:15:47,240 --> 02:15:49,440
Speaker 3: And that's the that's the basis of the lawsuits. And

2520
02:15:49,440 --> 02:15:51,840
Speaker 3: I'm really hoping that the two airlines get dinged on

2521
02:15:51,920 --> 02:15:54,800
Speaker 3: it because to shrug it off and go, eh, you know,

2522
02:15:55,160 --> 02:15:56,800
Speaker 3: it's not really that big of an issue, not that

2523
02:15:56,880 --> 02:15:59,520
Speaker 3: big of a concern, not our problem. You know, you

2524
02:15:59,640 --> 02:16:01,240
Speaker 3: paid this sit in that seat, and if you don't

2525
02:16:01,240 --> 02:16:03,840
Speaker 3: happen to have a window seat, will so be it. Yeah,

2526
02:16:03,880 --> 02:16:06,040
Speaker 3: there's a lot of people that look that they look

2527
02:16:06,080 --> 02:16:08,640
Speaker 3: out the window to relax as they fly. There's people

2528
02:16:08,680 --> 02:16:11,200
Speaker 3: that are a bit claustrophobic that need the windows so

2529
02:16:11,280 --> 02:16:13,920
Speaker 3: they can relax when they fly. A lot of different reasons.

2530
02:16:14,040 --> 02:16:15,800
Speaker 3: And when you take that away and just kind of

2531
02:16:15,920 --> 02:16:19,760
Speaker 3: dismiss the concerns, as Delta and United have done it

2532
02:16:19,840 --> 02:16:22,680
Speaker 3: in this matter, it's insulting and I look at that

2533
02:16:22,880 --> 02:16:25,640
Speaker 3: arrogance thing. It just it bothers me because here again

2534
02:16:25,760 --> 02:16:30,680
Speaker 3: is yet another example of how we're told passengers come first. Uh,

2535
02:16:30,840 --> 02:16:33,360
Speaker 3: they never do. It's the bottom the bottom line that

2536
02:16:33,480 --> 02:16:37,000
Speaker 3: comes first. It's not the employees. Sometimes it's not as

2537
02:16:37,040 --> 02:16:38,880
Speaker 3: safe as I would like kind of thing. It's but

2538
02:16:38,959 --> 02:16:41,720
Speaker 3: it happens to be an issue where they are doing

2539
02:16:41,760 --> 02:16:43,240
Speaker 3: what they have to do to kind of pad their

2540
02:16:43,280 --> 02:16:45,720
Speaker 3: bottom line. So you know, for me, it's it's it

2541
02:16:46,040 --> 02:16:49,320
Speaker 3: was just an insane statement for United to make great

2542
02:16:49,360 --> 02:16:51,240
Speaker 3: And I appreciate you letting me know because I did

2543
02:16:51,320 --> 02:16:53,720
Speaker 3: not think that that would stand. But we'll say, I

2544
02:16:53,720 --> 02:16:55,400
Speaker 3: guess what happens when they get to court.

2545
02:16:55,959 --> 02:16:58,120
Speaker 1: Yes, we will keep your bob going out on that one,

2546
02:16:58,200 --> 02:17:00,800
Speaker 1: Jay Rattlove And as we do, I think I got

2547
02:17:00,840 --> 02:17:03,440
Speaker 1: a little insight into air traffic generally this week. As

2548
02:17:03,480 --> 02:17:05,560
Speaker 1: you said, we've got things sort of resolved now. But

2549
02:17:05,800 --> 02:17:09,360
Speaker 1: as for travel today, how are things looking for my listeners.

2550
02:17:10,160 --> 02:17:12,080
Speaker 3: You know, weather's going to be concerned next week because

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Speaker 3: we might have a couple of storms coming in. So

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Speaker 3: make sure the airlines have a way to get a

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Speaker 3: hold of you, and please get to the airport. Two

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Speaker 3: hours before departure. But if you were flying today, Dallas

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Speaker 3: and Los Angeles are going to be the two problem

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Speaker 3: children of the day. Chicago maybe late in the day,

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Speaker 3: but I really think the headaches are going to be

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Speaker 3: Dallas in Los Angeles as we're going to be fighting

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Speaker 3: a lot of rain, wind and some limited visibility.

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Speaker 1: So glad you're back, Jay, right lift. You obviously had

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Speaker 1: no struggles whatsoever doing the report on aviation today, and

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Speaker 1: I'm so pleased to have you back. And I'll look

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Speaker 1: forward to next Thursday as I always do. Eight thirty

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Speaker 1: men will hit the ground running next week. Hope you

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Speaker 1: and your better half have a fantastic weekend. Of course,

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Speaker 1: in week between now.

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Speaker 3: And then, as you are my friend, Thank you.

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Speaker 1: Thanks brother eight fifty five. If you five carside talk station,

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Speaker 1: you didn't get a chance to listen.