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Speaker 2: couple different times. One o'clock Wednesday afternoons the latest Zach

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Speaker 2: Taylor press conference. Uh we run it as it's happening

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Speaker 2: at Pai Corpse Stadium, So we'll hear from Zach Taylor

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Speaker 2: today at one with when Mulleggar takes over. Later this

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Speaker 2: after our noon's Joe Burrow is scheduled to speak, so

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Speaker 2: we'll see what Joe Burrow has to say later this afternoon.

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Speaker 2: Chad Brendle will join us at two o'clock today. Normally

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Speaker 2: we get with Keegan nikoson on Thursdays, but there is

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Speaker 2: a lot of Bearcat conversation happening. I'm also off tomorrow,

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Speaker 2: so wanted to get a UC dynamic leading into the

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Speaker 2: game against Alabama State tonight. Why Gigsel James is back

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Speaker 2: Austin Tournament. Back on Gigsel James back for the Bearcats.

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Speaker 2: It is said that Jizzle will play tonight. My only

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Speaker 2: question Austin, when March Madness rolls around, will the committee

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Speaker 2: throw away the losses that the Bearcats have had without

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Speaker 2: Gigsel on the roster because they'll be a completely different team.

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's the only logical approach to a true

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Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you. I don't know what to make

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Speaker 3: I I mean, we've heard rumblings about this for a

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Speaker 3: culminated in this and I've seen a lot of Bearcat

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Speaker 3: fans the immediate reaction saying, desperate times call for desperate measures. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I mean, obviously whatever was going on in Gisel's personal life,

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Speaker 3: it's great news that he's sure gotten back to the

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Speaker 3: point where he's able to rejoin the basketball team, and

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Speaker 3: I think we're all happy about that, but how much

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Speaker 3: does this actually change things for them?

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Speaker 2: I mean, we've we've had stuff, Austin. I think Chad

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Speaker 2: Breundle was in one day for MO and I asked

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Speaker 2: Chad about Gigzl. He said, look, Gigsel's not going to

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Speaker 2: play this year. Chad is as connected to the program

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Speaker 2: as you'll find. Something has had to change, and again,

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Speaker 2: I think there is a desperation feel to it. We'll

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Speaker 2: talk to Chad about that this afternoon. But regardless of

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Speaker 2: here here was a guy that had some serious issues

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Speaker 2: those in order enough that they feel confident in bringing

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Speaker 2: them back. That, at least to that extent, is a

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Speaker 2: good thing. Louisville basketball fell last night by twenty one

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Speaker 2: points at Tennessee. That is their biggest loss of the season.

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Speaker 2: Louisville scheduled very hard, but a loss for the Louisville

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Speaker 2: Cardinals last night the Dolphins. Austin, how about this, how

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Speaker 2: about what the Dolphins did today. They cut Matthew Judon.

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Speaker 2: They moved on from one of their edge rushers, Matthew Judon.

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Speaker 2: That is not the craziest thing that the Dolphins have

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Speaker 2: done today. They also benched Tua Tongue of Ioloa. Yes,

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Speaker 2: Quinn Ores will now be the starter for the Dolphins

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Speaker 2: when they host the Bengals on Sunday. Let's just start

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Speaker 2: with that alone, Austin, Let's start with Quinnoers. This should

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Speaker 2: play into the favor of the Cincinnati Bengals very clearly.

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Speaker 2: Should should play into the favor of the Cincinnati Bengals.

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Speaker 2: Will it play in the favor of the Cincinnati Bengals

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Speaker 2: impossible to tell with this defense.

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Speaker 3: I mean, there's just no way to know for sure

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Speaker 3: stats like this, and he looked it up. The Bengals

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Speaker 3: twenty two times previously. In those twenty two games, the

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Speaker 3: it's it's pretty good. It's not as it's not twenty

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Speaker 2: We all know how that went. Wow. Okay. By the way,

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Speaker 2: the Matthew Judon news Austin, he had played in thirteen

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Speaker 2: Miami Dolphins. Financially, what does this mean for the Miami Dolphins.

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Speaker 3: Well, Tua is under contracts for the foreseeable future. He's

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Speaker 3: already got I think well over fifty million dollars in

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Speaker 3: I can, if I have the cofing, he has fifty

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Speaker 3: So next season he's already fifty four million. This coming

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Speaker 3: March March fifteenth, three million of his twenty twenty seven

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Speaker 3: equal out to sixty seven point four million in dead

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Speaker 2: Next year for Miami.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but I think they're in this situation where trying

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Speaker 2: So just so much money, so much money into Tua.

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Speaker 3: The Bengals are now four and a half point favorites

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 3: Originally, when the line came out Sunday night, Miami was

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Speaker 2: Of the Bengals. For me, I think I would have

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Speaker 3: Every Bengals fan had the same thought when they saw

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Speaker 2: Do this a week.

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Speaker 3: Fourteen and eight. That still is not what you want?

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Speaker 2: No, we'll talk more about what this means for the

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Speaker 2: game coming up here now were number one, shout out Austin.

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Speaker 2: I can't imagine our guy who will talk to a

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Speaker 2: two forty five today, Moagger today, oh man, Uh, Moe's

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Speaker 3: Yeah, what you would talk about? What a span from

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Speaker 3: a roller coaster from what happened with the Bengals to

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Speaker 3: where he's at now. Unbelievable and cloud nine unbelievable. First

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Speaker 2: Oh Spike Lee was in attendance to.

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Speaker 3: I am hearing now though that they won't be raising

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Speaker 1: Uh.

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Speaker 2: We will talk more the NFL weekends late coming up today. Also, Austin,

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Speaker 2: the Reds have made a move, Yes, they have now

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Speaker 2: all off season Austin. What have we talked about? Will

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Speaker 2: the Reds sign a hometown hero? Will they sign an

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Speaker 2: the Reds might be back. Austin. They have signed left

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Speaker 2: handed pitcher Caleb Ferguson. Let's go Ferguson to the Reds. Nice.

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Speaker 2: He is an Ohio native Columbus, Columbus native with the

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Speaker 3: Caleb Ferguson last year appeared in seventy games with the

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Speaker 2: Pitch pretty good for the Mariners.

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Speaker 3: He had a three point five to eight earned run average,

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Speaker 3: If I'm not mistaken, he gave up just two home runs.

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Speaker 3: Now you've got a guy in Caleb Ferguson, who keep

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Speaker 2: Last year, held a left handed batters to one eighty four.

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Speaker 2: multiple multitude of roles for the Pirates. Middle reliever, specialist,

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Speaker 2: He allowed five runs in two and two thirds in needs.

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Speaker 2: Were the hometown kid. Good for him, good for him,

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Speaker 2: like Versailles. Do you think the next manager of the

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Speaker 3: I mean, I'm sure that the seats are for the seats,

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Speaker 3: according to Pete Rose, God bless him, are for asses.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I don't know if I have that. I used

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Pete, Thank you Pete. So we've got a

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Speaker 2: All right, let's do it. Let's do a little Football

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Speaker 3: No very boring episode of Hard Knocks. I did think,

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Speaker 3: to the Miami RedHawks basketball. Yes eleven and H eleven

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Speaker 2: it wasn't like this Dolphins passing attack was dominant. They

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Speaker 2: What I do think this does and I think multiple reasons.

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Speaker 2: He's been pretty solid throughout the season when he's been healthy.

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Speaker 3: I don't know anybody that's sleeping on him. He's one

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, a Chan has elite speed, incredible quickness,

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Speaker 3: And is it gonna be a little bit different without

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Speaker 3: And that's where the Bengals have struggled all season long.

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Speaker 3: So I would expect to, as you mentioned, Darren Waller,

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Speaker 2: It's crazy. He's their second leading receiver Austin, but he

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Speaker 2: But this Dolphins team Austin is twenty seventh in the league.

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Speaker 2: They give up one hundred and thirty six on the

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Speaker 3: I think when you picture this game, I think you

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Speaker 2: It it should be a fascinating matchup for many reasons.

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Speaker 2: any type of gift. Everyone in your life would love

433
00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:13,879
Speaker 2: a Skyline Chili gift card. And while you're there, you

434
00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:17,480
Speaker 2: can eat some Skyline yourself. It is unbelievable. We think

435
00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:22,160
Speaker 2: Skyline Chili for everything. Here in our number one big

436
00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:23,840
Speaker 2: news out of the UFL.

437
00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:29,040
Speaker 3: Uh oh, the Columbus Aviators have named Ted Gin Junior

438
00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:30,800
Speaker 3: wow head coach.

439
00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:31,840
Speaker 2: Wow.

440
00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:34,919
Speaker 3: Did you know that the UFL still existed? Because I didn't.

441
00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:38,840
Speaker 2: I did not. Now I know his father is a

442
00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:41,680
Speaker 2: very successful high school coach in Cincinnati. Yes, just for

443
00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:44,720
Speaker 2: one another state titapion ship up there in Cleveland. Yeah, okay,

444
00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:51,280
Speaker 2: Ted Gin Junior the Columbus Aviators head coach. Okay, who

445
00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:54,080
Speaker 2: else has no idea that that was the thing until

446
00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:56,200
Speaker 2: I just saw a tweet. Now I have to look

447
00:24:56,280 --> 00:24:58,640
Speaker 2: up the Columbus Aviators.

448
00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:04,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, they have five thousand followers on Twitter. They play

449
00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:07,159
Speaker 3: their games at the Old Crew Stadium, okay, which is

450
00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:09,720
Speaker 3: also known as I think Matt Free Stadium.

451
00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:14,240
Speaker 2: But introducing like okay, so this is the twenty twenty

452
00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:15,640
Speaker 2: six years their first year.

453
00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:18,920
Speaker 3: I guess Okay, didn't they move a bunch of teams

454
00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:22,720
Speaker 3: because like last year was like the Michigan Panthers or whatever.

455
00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:24,720
Speaker 3: We're in the finals, and then they just like moved

456
00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:25,760
Speaker 3: their team somewhere else.

457
00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:29,240
Speaker 2: I guess. I don't know. I don't know much.

458
00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:33,040
Speaker 3: I love football is as much as anybody on planet Earth,

459
00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:34,359
Speaker 3: ir truthfully do.

460
00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:37,960
Speaker 2: Yeah. I do not care about these leagues at all.

461
00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:43,119
Speaker 2: So you got the Birmingham Stallions, Yeah, of course, the Aviators, Yeah, sure,

462
00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:46,240
Speaker 2: the Dallas Renegades, the DC Defenders, the Houston Gamblers.

463
00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:50,040
Speaker 3: I did see that Bob Stoop stepped down. He's officially retired.

464
00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:51,879
Speaker 3: He was the coach of the Renegades. I think, what

465
00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:54,600
Speaker 3: about the Louisville Kings. That's got to be a new one.

466
00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:59,040
Speaker 2: Yeah. I thought I saw something from Eric Wood at

467
00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:04,240
Speaker 2: a at like a Louisville King's announcement. Probably he lives

468
00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:06,479
Speaker 2: in Louisville, so okay, maybe he's a part of this.

469
00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:11,000
Speaker 2: Could be okay regardless. I saw Nick Saban bought a

470
00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:16,120
Speaker 2: share of the Nashville Predators. Hey, wow, what are we doing?

471
00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:18,479
Speaker 3: A lot going on, a lot of going on that

472
00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:21,600
Speaker 3: I didn't even know about. There really is like an

473
00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:25,520
Speaker 3: entirely different world out there, entirely different America.

474
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Speaker 2: I did see whoever Eric Wood was talking about he said,

475
00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:32,240
Speaker 2: you know, for home games, they'll come in the night

476
00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:34,320
Speaker 2: before and they'll do a bunch of community service. Oh

477
00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:36,480
Speaker 2: that's cool, So get out in the community as well.

478
00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:40,080
Speaker 3: So I will say this, Louisville built a soccer stadium

479
00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:44,720
Speaker 3: for their NWSL team. That is awesome. Okay, it's a

480
00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:47,440
Speaker 3: really cool stadium. I'm assuming that's where they'll be playing

481
00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:50,520
Speaker 3: these games at. But if you've ever been to Louisville

482
00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:54,160
Speaker 3: and you're like driving into downtown, that stadium is sick. Okay,

483
00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:57,840
Speaker 3: so check it out, all right, or don't you do

484
00:26:57,880 --> 00:26:58,400
Speaker 3: whatever you want?

485
00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:03,440
Speaker 2: Good to know UFL still alive and kicking. Baby. Let's

486
00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:05,880
Speaker 2: take a couple of phone calls. What's up, John?

487
00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:08,880
Speaker 5: The UFL is alive and well.

488
00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:12,080
Speaker 2: And I'm so excited I can tell. I think a

489
00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:13,240
Speaker 2: lot of people feel the same.

490
00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:15,920
Speaker 5: That's awesome, isn't it.

491
00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:16,480
Speaker 4: Wow.

492
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Speaker 5: I want to go to Louisville to see the stadium, actually,

493
00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:22,400
Speaker 5: because our stadiums around here are horrible. I mean, anytime

494
00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:24,280
Speaker 5: we have to build a stadium in the Boston area,

495
00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:28,119
Speaker 5: it takes like eleven years to do it. Actually, we

496
00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:30,200
Speaker 5: were going to bid on the twenty twenty sixth Summer

497
00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:32,720
Speaker 5: Olympic games and people got all bent out of shape

498
00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:35,600
Speaker 5: because they were worrying about snow and out to remind

499
00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:39,600
Speaker 5: people it doesn't snow in July, but you know, hopefully not. Yeah,

500
00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:41,840
Speaker 5: this is a place where you go to go where

501
00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:43,440
Speaker 5: you don't want to do anything. This is like the

502
00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:47,440
Speaker 5: place that says no. But looking forward to the Sunday's game,

503
00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:49,560
Speaker 5: a few things I just want to see and it's

504
00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:54,160
Speaker 5: mostly about the quarterback because everything else comes secondary to him.

505
00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:57,119
Speaker 5: And you know, the press conference last week is demeanor

506
00:27:57,200 --> 00:28:00,320
Speaker 5: on the field last Sunday really so a lot of

507
00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:02,920
Speaker 5: character for him that, you know, I want to see

508
00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:05,000
Speaker 5: him being back to being himself, whether it be the

509
00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:09,240
Speaker 5: press conference today, the game on Sunday, Just be more

510
00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:12,200
Speaker 5: of himself and be the leader of the team, because Sony,

511
00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:15,119
Speaker 5: you quarterback to the University of Cincinnati for many years.

512
00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:17,480
Speaker 5: When the quarterback walks into the building and he's in

513
00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:20,840
Speaker 5: a dour mood and looks like he's pissed off about something,

514
00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:23,320
Speaker 5: I think that permeates the entire team if I'm reading

515
00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:23,640
Speaker 5: it right.

516
00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:26,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like things start and stop with him. And that's

517
00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:28,479
Speaker 2: why I think him coming back with such a boost

518
00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:31,400
Speaker 2: for the team, because man, here's here's our guy, here's

519
00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:34,600
Speaker 2: Joe Burrow. Now there's hope restored. If Joe Burrow is

520
00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:38,280
Speaker 2: dragging and Joe Burrow is struggling, that's going to permeate

521
00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:39,959
Speaker 2: through the rest of the locker room as well, just

522
00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:42,520
Speaker 2: like it would on the other side of it.

523
00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:45,760
Speaker 5: So that question and I kind of overanalyze these things too.

524
00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:48,360
Speaker 5: It seems like he's a different person since the break

525
00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:52,760
Speaker 5: in last year, that that really affected him, as it should.

526
00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:55,320
Speaker 5: I mean, your home is being violated as you're on

527
00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:57,440
Speaker 5: the road playing a football game. It seems like that

528
00:28:57,600 --> 00:29:01,200
Speaker 5: really really bothered him the point where it kind of

529
00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:04,040
Speaker 5: soured him on the whole experience that like, I'm you know,

530
00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:07,600
Speaker 5: here playing I'm good in the community and some crazy

531
00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:10,280
Speaker 5: people break into my house. It seems like he's become

532
00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:13,440
Speaker 5: a little bit more defensive and kind of insular from

533
00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:15,719
Speaker 5: from that episode. I don't know, maybe I'm reading too

534
00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:16,360
Speaker 5: much into it.

535
00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:19,400
Speaker 2: Without a doubt, Without a doubt, it just again and

536
00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:23,880
Speaker 2: today it could be back to business as usual for Joe,

537
00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:26,480
Speaker 2: And I think if so, you look at that and

538
00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:29,320
Speaker 2: then if he bounces back on Sunday, okay, let's move forward.

539
00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:32,240
Speaker 2: If you get any type of Joe that we saw

540
00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:34,320
Speaker 2: last week. I think it would be cause for a

541
00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:35,560
Speaker 2: little more concern.

542
00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:38,720
Speaker 5: Yeah, without question, because I don't want to see him

543
00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:41,040
Speaker 5: turn into Jay Kupler. I mean, it was starting to

544
00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:42,960
Speaker 5: look like Jake Kettler on the field, where he was

545
00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:44,960
Speaker 5: just kind of going through the motions, and the press

546
00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:47,560
Speaker 5: conference was kind of just like, you know, the world

547
00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:48,080
Speaker 5: is ending.

548
00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:49,960
Speaker 2: I think it's maybe he's just.

549
00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:52,320
Speaker 5: Going through a really, really tough spell, and you know,

550
00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:54,040
Speaker 5: the losing starts to beat him up.

551
00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:55,640
Speaker 2: Because there's a guy who won a.

552
00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:58,720
Speaker 5: National championship in college, a Heisman Trophy first three years

553
00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:02,360
Speaker 5: here from a turning the franchise around, and the injuries

554
00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:04,840
Speaker 5: add up and the losing adds up. But he's got

555
00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:07,240
Speaker 5: to be the guy and he's often talked about it he's.

556
00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:08,600
Speaker 2: The guy that can turn it around. And I still

557
00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:10,960
Speaker 2: have faith that he will do that for sure, for sure.

558
00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:14,960
Speaker 2: And that's the thing. We've seen him have bad games

559
00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:18,120
Speaker 2: before and then immediately he turns it around and he's

560
00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:22,200
Speaker 2: back to what we envisioned Joe Burrow. Bean, I just

561
00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:24,400
Speaker 2: think when you looked at the mental airs he made,

562
00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:28,960
Speaker 2: that's not normal Joe Burrow behavior. So that to me

563
00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:31,000
Speaker 2: is what I want to watch. Can he clean up

564
00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:35,160
Speaker 2: the protection checks, the things that he missed which are

565
00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:38,120
Speaker 2: just again so uncharacteristic for him, And then I think

566
00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:41,360
Speaker 2: you feel better about where he's at without question.

567
00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:43,160
Speaker 5: I mean, even like the sack on third down that

568
00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:45,480
Speaker 5: took them out of field goal range, the pick six

569
00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:47,040
Speaker 5: that looks like he just kind of gave up on it.

570
00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:49,800
Speaker 5: I didn't want him chasing the depender downs. I mean,

571
00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:51,680
Speaker 5: I have a rule, actually you probably would like this

572
00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:54,520
Speaker 5: Tony being a quarterback. If my quarterback throws an interception,

573
00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:57,400
Speaker 5: one of the interior alignment is to grab him, put

574
00:30:57,480 --> 00:30:59,400
Speaker 5: him in a bear hug, make sure he goes nowhere

575
00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:01,600
Speaker 5: near attack fling anybody, because we don't want to lose

576
00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:04,760
Speaker 5: a quarterback over something like that. They love them to

577
00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:06,480
Speaker 5: have a pick six that they need be just make

578
00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:08,280
Speaker 5: sure the quarterback's upright after that time.

579
00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:10,880
Speaker 2: But I'm good with that, especially playing it out down

580
00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:11,600
Speaker 2: the stretch now.

581
00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:15,400
Speaker 5: Absolutely, oh even more so now. But fellas, have a

582
00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:18,240
Speaker 5: great day. I'm sure we'll speak to you before Christmas and

583
00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:18,720
Speaker 5: not again.

584
00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:23,000
Speaker 2: Thanks for the time, John, Thanks lot Man. We appreciate you. Mike.

585
00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:23,760
Speaker 2: What's going on?

586
00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:31,520
Speaker 6: Hey, Merry Christmas, bro Merry Christmas. All right, heard, Well,

587
00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:33,560
Speaker 6: first of all, I'm going to really go out on

588
00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:37,080
Speaker 6: the limb and make my Super Bowl tradiction the Rams

589
00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:41,160
Speaker 6: and the Broncos. Boy, I'm really really walking you are.

590
00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:42,920
Speaker 2: You are?

591
00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:47,640
Speaker 4: Wow? Barring any catastrophic injuries, which we know can happen

592
00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:52,360
Speaker 4: in a flash, sure Fulton can change, but the Broncos

593
00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:54,200
Speaker 4: are clearly the best team in the year. See.

594
00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:56,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's weird. It feels like people keep waiting for

595
00:31:56,880 --> 00:31:59,880
Speaker 2: them to fall back, and they were underdogs at home

596
00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:02,840
Speaker 2: again last week, and it's just fine. They've they've not

597
00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:06,120
Speaker 2: done it yet, and I think people just keep waiting,

598
00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:09,000
Speaker 2: but they're not They're not blinking right now, They're not

599
00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:13,080
Speaker 2: showing any signs that that that they're going to go

600
00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:14,760
Speaker 2: in the other direction. And at this point, I think

601
00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:16,440
Speaker 2: you got to kind of take it for what it's worth. It.

602
00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:19,320
Speaker 2: They are a legitimate contender, especially the way bo Nicks

603
00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:20,760
Speaker 2: played against that Green Bay defense.

604
00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:24,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, and you know, as well as anybody Tony, the

605
00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:26,280
Speaker 4: more he plays, the better he's gonna get. And he's

606
00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:26,600
Speaker 4: got a.

607
00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:29,560
Speaker 2: Great tutor, right Yep, without a doubt, docre.

608
00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:34,719
Speaker 4: So that was my take a walk on the lobside prediction.

609
00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:38,600
Speaker 4: I heard an interesting interview with Robert Griffin and Steve

610
00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:42,240
Speaker 4: Young this morning, and they were both really concerned with

611
00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:47,040
Speaker 4: Joe's body language, what he had to say. They you know,

612
00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:50,240
Speaker 4: everybody loves in his talent to death and as a person,

613
00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:53,480
Speaker 4: but they did not, neither one of them. And you

614
00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:57,480
Speaker 4: got two guys that are quite a difference in age,

615
00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:01,880
Speaker 4: and they didn't feel good about what's happening. So I

616
00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:04,680
Speaker 4: just want to throw that in there. They didn't predict anything.

617
00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:07,040
Speaker 4: They just said, this is cause for concerns.

618
00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:10,680
Speaker 2: Yeah. Now, that's why I think today is so interesting.

619
00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:13,160
Speaker 2: In Sunday is so interesting because if it carries over

620
00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:16,640
Speaker 2: to another press conference, and then that carries over to

621
00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:20,600
Speaker 2: another poor game, then I think everyone shares that sentiment.

622
00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:22,880
Speaker 2: Right now, I think people are said, Okay, he had

623
00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:24,960
Speaker 2: an off game, maybe it was an off week. A

624
00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:27,160
Speaker 2: lot of stuff could happen in someone's life and you

625
00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:30,200
Speaker 2: don't want to dig too far into it. If it continues,

626
00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:32,760
Speaker 2: then I think it certainly becomes an issue.

627
00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:37,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, you can't help but think it then, right,

628
00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:38,840
Speaker 4: I mean, you don't have to be a football fan

629
00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:43,560
Speaker 4: to figure that out. Which is correcting basic psychology. This

630
00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:46,480
Speaker 4: Creg Greg Stamon, guy that got the San Diego job.

631
00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:49,480
Speaker 4: I saw his interview. Big guy was in tears. He

632
00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:53,200
Speaker 4: was so happy to be the manager of the Padres

633
00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:57,160
Speaker 4: and his family and he is they love Southern California

634
00:33:57,160 --> 00:33:59,360
Speaker 4: blah blah blah blah blah. But I don't see him

635
00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:01,480
Speaker 4: coming up of the Reds any time to soon. I

636
00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:04,760
Speaker 4: don't think that's gonna happen. Why would you move from

637
00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:07,600
Speaker 4: San Diego? Right, Yeah, I don't know. I don't know

638
00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:10,560
Speaker 4: why you did it. And Caleb Ferguson, well, i'll tell

639
00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:14,520
Speaker 4: you what. I tried so hard to look Caleb Ferguson

640
00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:16,879
Speaker 4: because he's kind of a menacing figure on the mount.

641
00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:20,200
Speaker 4: He's a big, sick dude. He's a tough looking guy.

642
00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:22,600
Speaker 4: He's a left hander, so he got to love him.

643
00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:27,000
Speaker 4: But in his stats over his career are pretty good.

644
00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:30,040
Speaker 4: But here's where he faltered and killed the Dodgers. So

645
00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:34,200
Speaker 4: many times was given up the clutch base hit or

646
00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:37,040
Speaker 4: the clutch home run, and that is what that's why

647
00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:38,200
Speaker 4: the Dodgers finally ranning.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's uh. He didn't pitch obviously well in the

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Speaker 2: postseason last year for the Mariners, but he is a

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Speaker 2: matchup guy. I think left handed believers in Major League

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Speaker 2: Baseball are are very important if you want to have

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Speaker 2: any legitimate shot at at moving on. But I do

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Speaker 2: think they're you know, it's it's unfortunately the type of

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Speaker 2: moves that this organization and has made as of late

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Speaker 2: that that fulfill a need but also don't bring much

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Speaker 2: excitement with it as well.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, we're not going to pack the joint

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Speaker 4: because Caleb Burg, because ninety nine percent of the Reds

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Speaker 4: fans have never heard of the guy. Hey, Tony, have

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Speaker 4: you ever thought of Are all your kids right handed?

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Speaker 2: Uh? My older two are? My youngest looks like he's

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Speaker 2: going to be a lefty right now?

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Speaker 4: There you go.

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Speaker 2: I know it. I'm counting on him. I'm counting on him.

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Speaker 4: Mike Kid. My dad was ambidexterrous. He really was. It

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Speaker 4: was incredible. My dad could do everything with both hands

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Speaker 4: and it was really freaky. And he tried like hell

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Speaker 4: to make me into a left hander or at that time,

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Speaker 4: like a switch hitter in baseball. Yeah, and actually I

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Speaker 4: got even though on the natural right hander, I got

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Speaker 4: pretty good at it just by practicing it, but it

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Speaker 4: was never quite the same. But it just seems not

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Speaker 4: in football so much, but boy, in baseball, if you're

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Speaker 4: left handed, even if you're a hitter, they just have

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Speaker 4: a prettier swing. All that stuff, right, And as a pitcher,

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Speaker 4: it's guaranteed money for the rest of your life.

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Speaker 2: Yep, that's it. We're counting on him. I'm putting a

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Speaker 2: lot of trust in him.

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Speaker 4: So tie those arms behind them, behind their waist. I'll

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Speaker 4: see you guys.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Thanks Mikevin Goodwin. All right, let's finish up

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Speaker 2: hour one when we come back. Thanks to Skyline Chili

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Speaker 2: on the whole of the Bengals ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati

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Speaker 2: Sports Station.

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Speaker 1: We're listening to Tony Pike sincey three sixty on ESPN

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Speaker 1: fifteen thirty.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back. This is Cincy three sixty thanks to Skyline

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Speaker 2: Chili Austin. We've got Zach Taylor coming up in a

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Speaker 2: couple of minutes. I'm fired up. Zach Taylor is going

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Speaker 2: to speak to the media about this upcoming game against

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Speaker 2: the Miami Dolphins. Put an over under on the time

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Speaker 2: for me. What do you think think Zach's been pretty

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Speaker 2: brief the last couple of weeks. Yeah, I'm gonna say

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Speaker 2: eleven minutes, there's less football to talk about. There's really

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Speaker 2: a lot less to talk about. Now. We'll talk about

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Speaker 2: Shamar Stewart, talk about T Higgins, talk about Joe Burrow,

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Speaker 2: talk about the Dolphins, to a talk of aloa Quin Owers.

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Speaker 2: What else gets brought up? What's a question you would

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Speaker 2: ask today if you were down there? What's on your mind? Hmm?

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Speaker 2: I know it's not the most pressing one. I would

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Speaker 2: ask what the idea is at running back down the stretch?

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Speaker 2: Because some I J p Ryn is either getting similar

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Speaker 2: carries or maybe even more carries than Chase Brown. I

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Speaker 2: want to know what the plan is at running back.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess that's a mildly interesting part of it.

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Speaker 3: I think he'll be asked about his contract extension.

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Speaker 2: Oh, that's a good one. I'm sure he'll be asked

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Speaker 2: about that. That's a good one. What are you asking

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Speaker 2: him today?

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Speaker 3: I don't know, Like, have you guys changed anything?

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Speaker 2: You know?

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Speaker 3: Oh, Joe Burrow? I don't know, like is there going

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Speaker 3: to be a different plan in place? Does the game

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Speaker 3: plan change now that you're eliminated? Are you going to

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Speaker 3: try to protect Joe a little bit more? I know

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Speaker 3: all the answers to those questions, though, I think this

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Speaker 3: is why it would be hard for me to come

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Speaker 3: up just off the top of my head.

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Speaker 2: No, but I think there's something there that people would

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Speaker 2: want to know, Like, now that you are eliminated, does

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Speaker 2: the preparation change, does the personnel groupings change? Do your

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Speaker 2: substitutions change? Are you willing to give other guys more

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Speaker 2: looks now?

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Speaker 3: I think a good question based off like the running

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Speaker 3: back conversation is is TODs Brooks going to get more

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Speaker 3: looks now?

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Speaker 2: Soman?

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Speaker 6: J P.

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Speaker 3: Ryan's under contract for next year as well, He's going

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Speaker 3: to be here. Chase Brown's going to be here, Which

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Speaker 3: is why I've already seen some stupid people posting about

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Speaker 3: the Bengals drafting Jeremiah Love, which you want to talk

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Speaker 3: about a crash out, I would have a crash out

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Speaker 3: of all crashouts running back Jeremiah Love in the first round.

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Speaker 3: The running back room is kind of set, but I

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Speaker 3: wouldn't mind taking a look at TODs Brooks just to

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Speaker 3: see what he's got. Are we going to see more

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Speaker 3: of that type of thing in the second half? And

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Speaker 3: you know they drafted or didn't draft, but they claimed

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Speaker 3: on waivers yesterday Keishawn Williams from the Pittsburgh Steelers. He's

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Speaker 3: a return specialist, which would suggest that Charlie Jones is

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Speaker 3: probably gonna miss some time. What what's the severity of

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Speaker 3: that injury and that whole thing.

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Speaker 2: Outside of Trey Hendrickson on the defensive side of the ball.

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Speaker 2: What do you think the most intriguing or pressing question

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Speaker 2: is that they'll have to answer in the offseason. Is

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Speaker 2: it Josephosai like like I mean, like on the roster

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Speaker 2: right now, not free agents, not the draft, like players

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Speaker 2: that are on this roster. You would have to make

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Speaker 2: a decision on Joseph Osai. Yeah, I would say that's

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Speaker 2: probably the most pressing because I would wonder then, like

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Speaker 2: down the stretch, so you've got three games remaining and

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Speaker 2: wins are low. I know you want to win, but

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Speaker 2: it's not going to do anything for you. I would

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Speaker 2: I would get to Al Golden hopefully Duke Tobin. I'd say, Okay,

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Speaker 2: what do we need to see from Joseph Osai in

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Speaker 2: these last three weeks that either make us want to

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Speaker 2: invest in him or be okay moving on with him?

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Speaker 2: You know? Is that can we see him dropping the

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Speaker 2: coverage more Can we see him on some stunts some more?

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Speaker 2: Can we line him up inside like I would want

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Speaker 2: to do as much with Joseph Osai over the next

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Speaker 2: three weeks to really gauge like, Okay, this is what

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Speaker 2: we have or what we don't have with him? You know,

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Speaker 2: don't don't keep it basic.

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Speaker 3: He's on a one year deal worth a total of

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Speaker 3: six and a half million dollars right now.

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Speaker 2: Mm hmm.

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Speaker 3: I think he's probably outplayed that sure on the open market.

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Speaker 2: I would. I would guess he'll get at least ten

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Speaker 2: Are you willing to give?

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Speaker 3: That's what that see? Like that to me, I don't

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Speaker 3: have the answer right now, and his agent is David Mulligana,

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Speaker 3: so I would have to see more down the stretch.

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Speaker 3: Because the honest part about this, you're you're saying right now,

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Speaker 3: he's not reached that point for you. I don't think so.

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Speaker 2: But the interesting thing about this for me, Austin is

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Speaker 2: if it's not him, then who in the world is it? Right?

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Speaker 2: I don't have anything to go on, and that's why

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Speaker 2: I think it is important that to get to see

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Speaker 2: Shamar Stewart this year, because if not, I don't know

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Speaker 2: what they have there. And as good as Miles Murphy's

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Speaker 2: been Austin. You remember down the stretch last year, Miles

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Speaker 2: Murphy was pretty good. Why does it take Miles Murphy

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Speaker 2: half or more than half of the season to start

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Speaker 2: playing better. Yeah, Like, I think these are all valid,

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Speaker 2: but I feel like I know what they have in

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Speaker 2: the second area or don't have. They're not gonna make

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Speaker 2: any startling moves at linebacker because they just drafted both

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Speaker 2: of them. They're gonna They're gonna give them another chance.

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Speaker 3: It's also not like there's a ton of free agent

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Speaker 3: defensive linemen available next year. Sure, so Hendrickson is the time,

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Speaker 3: Matthew Judon, Khalil Mack, Hassan Reddick, Joey Bosa, Malcolm Kountz,

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Speaker 3: Daniko Audrey, Leonard Floyd. Those guys all made ten million

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Speaker 3: or more. Yeah, you've got Yeter gross Matos, who I

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Speaker 3: just for his name alone. I would love Draymont Jones

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Speaker 3: from Baltimore. I wouldn't mind that Samson Abucham from Indianapolis,

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Speaker 3: Arden Key, Osai Fowler, aj Epenes. These are all the

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Speaker 3: edge rushers. Yeah, that's not like a deep group of guys.

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Speaker 3: So just looking at this list makes me feel like, Okay,

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Speaker 3: Miles Murphy and Joseph Osai are probably going to get

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Speaker 3: brought back ad In Shamar Stewart add in probably a

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Speaker 3: draft pick me and that's what you probably two draft

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Speaker 3: picks and maybe one of those guys. You know, there

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Speaker 3: are other guys out there, you know. O dafe O

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Speaker 3: Way I think is interesting. So it's it's it's just

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Speaker 3: it's hard.

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Speaker 2: Right Like if I look right now, Flacco is going

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Speaker 2: to be a free agent, Dalton Reisner is going to

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Speaker 2: be a free agent, Trey Hendrickson, Joseph Osai, Geno Stone,

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Speaker 2: You're going back in on Genostone. No, I'm good with that,

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Speaker 2: Noah Fan, Lucas, Patrick, Cam Taylor, Britt, Tanner Hudson. I mean,

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Speaker 2: these are the types of These are the guys you're

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Speaker 2: going to be making decisions on. I don't think there's

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Speaker 2: many hard decisions to make. Cam Taylor Britt with making.

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Speaker 2: I mean, his market value right now is fifteen million.

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Speaker 2: I'm not giving that to Cam Taylor Britt. You know

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Speaker 2: I'm not going to give right now market value on

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Speaker 2: sport track dot Com for Joseph Osaiah is fifteen million.

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Speaker 2: I don't think I'm there. You know market value on

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Speaker 2: genostone is seven point eight million. I'm definitely not there,

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Speaker 2: so there are decisions that have to be made down

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Speaker 2: the stretch. But like I said Austin, over these next

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Speaker 2: three I give Osai as many responsible he's as possible,

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Speaker 2: and see what you have or don't have before you

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Speaker 2: just blatantly move on from him. And you can make

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Speaker 2: that argument with other players as well. But I do

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Speaker 2: think that is important down the stretch. We'll take a

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Speaker 2: break that Zach Taylor press conference comes next to kick

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Speaker 2: off our number two of SINCY three sixty on ESPN

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