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Speaker 1: Bring on, doctor Dave Schneider. Brought to you by Ortho

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Speaker 1: Colorado Hospital part of Common Spirit Health. Go to Ortho

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Speaker 1: Colorado dot org. Doctor Schneider. Always great to catch up

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Speaker 1: with you.

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Speaker 2: How are you great? Easy three Monday?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, that's absolutely so, Doc. I want I want

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Speaker 3: to ask you and again we we get your your

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Speaker 3: expertise on a on a weekly basis. And watching the

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Speaker 3: game last night with Pittsburgh and Baltimore, it was the

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Speaker 3: first game that t J. Watt had come back after

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Speaker 3: missing some time with a with a punctured lung. I

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Speaker 3: just want to ask you for people like us that

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Speaker 3: wouldn't have any idea that the the the lay person

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Speaker 3: listening to this, how common is that sort of injury

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Speaker 3: and what kind of recovery does it entail to be

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Speaker 3: able to get back out and play in an NFL

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Speaker 3: football game.

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Speaker 2: It's remarkable, Dave, for beginners with the Steelers have a

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Speaker 2: bad history of something like this happening. I don't know

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Speaker 2: if you remember this. The Drome Bettis is getting a

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Speaker 2: pre game shot back in two thousand and two before

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Speaker 2: a playoff game against the Ravens and some of the

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Speaker 2: numbing medicine got over to his federal nerve and paralyzed

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Speaker 2: his leg before the game, and he was a last

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Speaker 2: second scratch and no one knew at the time. Where's Jerome.

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Speaker 2: He didn't play. It's because one of the medical personnel

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Speaker 2: put the medicine too close to a nerve and it

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Speaker 2: paralyzed him. Wow, now it's not quite that bad when

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Speaker 2: it comes to TJ. Watt, But he was getting dry

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Speaker 2: needling by one of the other medical personnels, not by

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Speaker 2: the team surgeon. And if you get the needle and

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Speaker 2: put it just a little too deep, because sometimes they'll

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Speaker 2: try and get it in the intercostal muscles around the ridge,

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Speaker 2: you can actually poke in and drop someone's lung and

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Speaker 2: give them you know, I dropped low and new ma thorax.

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Speaker 2: That's what happened to him. And you can't breathe very well.

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Speaker 2: You feel like something's going horribly wrong. And when you

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Speaker 2: lung collapses like that, the only solution is to get

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Speaker 2: a chest tube put in in the hospital and then

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Speaker 2: have that put to suction to try and reinflate your

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Speaker 2: lung again. So that's why he was in the hospital,

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Speaker 2: that's why he missed a couple of weeks and for

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Speaker 2: anyone who's ever had a chest tube in place, they'll

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Speaker 2: tell you it is the most painful thing on the

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Speaker 2: planet Earth. And to recover from it, for that guy

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Speaker 2: to be able to play yesterday, I'm in awe. I'm

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Speaker 2: absolutely in awe. TJ. Watt Well Doc.

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Speaker 4: Speaking on another injury front. Nikola Jokich has this bone

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Speaker 4: bruise in his knee, and I know he's scheduls to

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Speaker 4: have to be reevaluated. How does that bone bruise on

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Speaker 4: any part of your lord extremity kind of impact a

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Speaker 4: guy like NIKOLEA. Jokisch, who is, i mean, one of

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Speaker 4: the better big men in NBA.

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Speaker 2: Well, we're taking our lucky stars. Is the way he

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Speaker 2: hyper extended that knee kind of a freak accident. I'm

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Speaker 2: sure everyone's seen the video to get his footstepped on

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Speaker 2: his knee kind of buckle backwards. If you end up

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Speaker 2: bruising the top part of your tibia, this shitting bone.

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Speaker 2: There's a plateau the flat part of where your tibia

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Speaker 2: bone sits in your knee. If you hyper extend that

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Speaker 2: and the kind of jam your femur your thighbone against that,

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Speaker 2: it immediately causes bruising in the bone and it hurts

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Speaker 2: like crazy, and either you just bruise the bone or

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Speaker 2: your tear the PCL ligament in your knee, which could

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Speaker 2: require surgery. So for the MRI just to show a

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Speaker 2: bone bruise, my bone bruise actually mean bleeding in the bone,

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Speaker 2: or to just be a bone bruce. We're thanking our lucky.

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Speaker 1: Stars, absolutely so. Garrett Bowles left the game temporarily yesterday,

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Speaker 1: came back into it afterwards. Some of the people were

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Speaker 1: noting that it was pretty swollen his ankle. Is that

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Speaker 1: something that could potentially impact his availability for the game

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Speaker 1: coming up there in a couple weeks and.

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Speaker 2: Then twisted kind of way. It's actually good news usually

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Speaker 2: because it just means your ankles swollen like that means

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Speaker 2: you kind of turned your ankle and it's the ligaments

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Speaker 2: on the outside part of your ankle. You can get

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Speaker 2: that taped up. He'll be getting treatment like crazy for

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Speaker 2: the next few days. He's such an animal. I don't

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Speaker 2: think that's going to affect him at all.

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Speaker 4: Also, another guy from the Broncos who's suffered an injury,

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Speaker 4: PJ Lot, What more do you know about this particular injury?

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Speaker 4: Because I know it's being said that it's just kind

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Speaker 4: of a lower extreme of the injury, but they're not

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Speaker 4: really saying in what particular area of the lore body.

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Speaker 2: You know, when looked at the video of the play itself,

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Speaker 2: he's just coming in for some support after the pass,

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Speaker 2: was throwing that a quick in wrout and he just

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Speaker 2: was trying to break down. It looked like he kind

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Speaker 2: of twisted his ankle a little bit. What we all

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Speaker 2: like seeing is that as he was stumbling at a

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Speaker 2: bit sidelines that he was reaching down on the front

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Speaker 2: of his ankle. So there's nothing to do with as cap,

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Speaker 2: nothing to do with his achilles. I don't think it's

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Speaker 2: gonna be an issue for Broncos. Finds all right.

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Speaker 1: A sigh of relief, Doctor Schneider. Always great. We really

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Speaker 1: appreciate the time.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, sir, all right, thank you, thanks doc.

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Speaker 1: All right, Doctor David Schneider,