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Speaker 1: Corey came into Stios on break post election. Yes, Corey

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Speaker 1: Bowman ran from mayor of the City of Cincinnata. Notice

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Speaker 1: the color charted electoral map we keep permanently posted here

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Speaker 1: on the morning show. Strekker put that up after the

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Speaker 1: Quire produced it. So we see the red areas where

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Speaker 1: people were smart enough to vote for you, Corey Bowman.

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Speaker 1: And then we have the color coded chart showing the

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Speaker 1: percentage of voters that went pervoll and the current makeup

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Speaker 1: of Cincinni City Council, which is only one member different

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Speaker 1: than it was prior to the election. And it's all

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Speaker 1: you know, pervall fifty to seventy, pro ball seventy one

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Speaker 1: to eighty four, and per ball eighty five to one hundred. This,

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Speaker 1: of course, based upon the reality of the last fall

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Speaker 1: election where only one out of twenty five registered voters

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Speaker 1: or people actually showed up to vote. It's insane, Corey.

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Speaker 1: I don't get it. I don't understand people's lack of

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Speaker 1: that we all knew about going into the election. And

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Speaker 1: here we are with the exact same cast of characters,

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Speaker 1: and what unfolds in the aftermath is more information about

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Speaker 1: how poorly run the city's been up up to the election.

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Speaker 1: If we had all this information, like the firing of

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Speaker 1: police Chief Thiji, the camera installation that was promised for

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Speaker 1: years and denied, on and on and on like these

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Speaker 1: are reflections of mismanagement, I mean, plain and simple. The

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Speaker 1: So you're citizen Corey Bowman, but you're still a West

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Speaker 1: End resident, correct, Yes, sir?

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Speaker 2: Well, first off, thank you so much for having me.

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Speaker 2: Good good morning, everybody for listening everything. It's going to

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Speaker 2: be a great day today. But yeah, Brian, first off,

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Speaker 2: you know, thank you so much for the entire year

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Speaker 2: that we were running that campaign that you consistently had

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Speaker 2: us on talking about the issues and you know, like

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Speaker 2: management of the city, that's what we ran the race on.

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Speaker 2: And I think that even after the election, even though

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Speaker 2: in the words of one of my friends, Christopher Smithman,

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Speaker 2: elections have consequences elections have consequences, and I think that

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Speaker 2: one of the most important things we can continue to

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Speaker 2: the conversation. You know, I made a post a while

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Speaker 2: back go something that hit me pretty close to home,

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Speaker 2: was that one of our church members, her granddaughter was

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Speaker 2: Queen Irie, the eleven year old girl that got shot down.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So what happened was is that her grandmother is a

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Speaker 2: member of our church. The shooting happened at Laurel Park,

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Speaker 2: which is about six blocks away from our church, right

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Speaker 2: girl two years prior, we had actually gotten a chance

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Speaker 2: to pray with her at an outreach that we had

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Speaker 2: at that park, at the very place where she tragically

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Speaker 1: You had to have a vigil there because of the

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Speaker 1: other eleven year old that got killed there. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so two years before it was Dominic Davis, and

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Speaker 1: Well, no question about it. Although money is necessary to

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Speaker 2: Well also too, I mean the issues that we talked

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Speaker 2: then also we've got to put pressure on the judges

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Speaker 2: to hold criminals accountable because I talk with the people

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Speaker 2: It's a very small amount of people that aren't held accountable,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, along those lines, I think of the whole you know,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the Pleasantville type of the Andy Griffin.

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Speaker 2: You know what's funny is that I was working at

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Speaker 2: because it wasn't just about being mayor of Cincinnati. That night,

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Speaker 2: They think they're responding, right, and they think that they're

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Speaker 2: And I'm sitting there thinking, isn't this what elected officials

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Speaker 1: And that's the last thing on the provol administration agenda.

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Speaker 1: Corey Bowman, you know, yeah, it was Aftab at that meet.

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Speaker 2: He to my knowledge, And you know, I like to

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Speaker 2: I know there was a couple city council members that

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Speaker 2: something that we always have to put the forefront. Accountability,

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Speaker 2: accountability to accountability. If we're if you've got that large

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Speaker 1: Corey Bowman will return. We got another second with him

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Speaker 1: before we get to the bottom of the ar with

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Speaker 1: Ice in Ohio as well as propertytech is that's the bottom

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Speaker 1: of the hour. One more with Corey after these brief words.

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Speaker 1: Eight eighteen Here fifty five KRCD talk station post election

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Speaker 1: coverage here with Corey Bowman from since formerly running for

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Speaker 1: mayor of the City of Cincinnati. He's still a resident

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Speaker 1: of the West End. Of course, his church is there,

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Speaker 1: his business with King's Arms Coffee, right, yeah, sort of

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Speaker 1: shout out, that's free plug for you. Show up there.

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Speaker 1: A lot of people do. I stay in touch with

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Speaker 1: the neighborhood. Get yourself a good cup of coffee, and

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Speaker 1: support Corey Budma, which I encourage you doing. Now. You

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Speaker 1: mentioned earlier lateral hires, and I know that. See I

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Speaker 1: was gonna say your campaign in running for mayor had

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Speaker 1: a couple of really positive results the mayor. After that part,

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Speaker 1: Volt was denying that there was any crime to even

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Speaker 1: it down to its minimalist terms, but every time someone

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Speaker 1: It's just an you know, the violent crimes down We

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Speaker 1: kept hearing down, down, down, down, down. Don't believe your eyes,

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Speaker 1: don't believe the news. Just believe me and what I'm

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Speaker 1: telling you kind of a marketing plan. None of them

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Speaker 1: ever supported the police. They were all part of many

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Speaker 1: of them part of the defund the police movement. That

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Speaker 1: and we saw what happened to so many cities on that.

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Speaker 1: So your campaign, though, elevated crime to the attention of

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Speaker 1: the voting public. Coupled with Sarah Herringer, whose husband murdered

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Speaker 1: in her over the wrong department, I don't think. I

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Speaker 1: don't think Mayor I have to have Pearl will ever

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Speaker 1: bother to pick up a phone to call her. But whatever,

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Speaker 1: you had the violent beat down, most notably the issue

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Speaker 1: and causing serious bodily damage, and the attention that that

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Speaker 1: force the administration, because of you and your pro police campaign,

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Speaker 1: to rise to the challenge. We're gonna do this, We're

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Speaker 1: addressing crime. We're gonna throw five point four million dollars.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna put some cameras over on the West end,

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Speaker 1: which had been promised for a couple of years. We're

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Speaker 1: gonna hire laterally, we're gonna add additional police officers to

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Speaker 1: fill the contingent of police officers on the force, which

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Speaker 1: Ken Cobra, FLP president told me seven applied seven. Do

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Speaker 1: you think that has anything to do with the administration's

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Speaker 1: Corey Bowman.

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Speaker 2: I think absolutely, and also to just the culture of

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Speaker 2: how it's perceived of does city Hall actually back the police?

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Speaker 2: And if the police are told to do their job,

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Speaker 2: administration that hires them essentially? So, yeah, you mentioned this

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Speaker 2: and I kind of showed you the T shirts.

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Speaker 1: That's a great story, folks, get a load of this.

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Speaker 2: So you know, we we tragically lost to the New

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Speaker 2: York Jets this year. The Cincinnati Bengals did well that game.

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Speaker 2: I actually was a part of a tailgate and just

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Speaker 2: And then as I'm talking with them, you know, we

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Speaker 2: down the line with the future mayor, Mom, Dannie. We

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Speaker 2: know that there's a lot of distrust with that current administration.

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Speaker 2: This is what I was trying to do. Because I

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Speaker 2: knew lateral hiring was going to be an issue. I

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Speaker 2: them moving to their families to Cincinnati, an amazing city

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Speaker 2: that has a lower cost of living and if you

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Speaker 1: Oh, the cost of living here is so much lower,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So these are things that we were as a campaign.

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Speaker 2: It wasn't just putting out videos and just saying hey,

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Speaker 2: Most officers under a good program don't take that retirement

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Speaker 2: to protect and serve the community. Right now, if things

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Speaker 2: right now, even starting this year, there will be a

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Speaker 2: you try to do the lateral hiring, when you try

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Speaker 1: Well, couple with that, knowing full well that as a

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And that's something that you know, that's the culture

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Speaker 1: Right And a simple non legislative, non monetary solution to that,

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Speaker 1: a f to have provol city manager Cheryl Long, all

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Speaker 1: But beyond that, to get out loud and start encouraging

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Speaker 2: I would also end it with this is that when

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Speaker 2: But I would venture to say, hey, we need to

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Speaker 2: right now, sixty four percent of our budget goes toward

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Speaker 2: public safety. But what's categorized as public safety? Are these

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Speaker 2: You know, a lot of nonprofits and goos contractors. A

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Speaker 1: Well, Irish for Ally's sons got a job involved in

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Speaker 1: The husband apparently has a printing company, so that's all

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Speaker 1: is there, Corey Bowman.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I believe that there was just a recent

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Speaker 2: shooting that you got the guy.

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Speaker 1: I saw that as well. We'll call that a rhetorical question.

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Speaker 1: Corey Bowman, Happy new to you, Best of health to

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Speaker 1: you and your family. Understand everybody's doing really well. I

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Speaker 1: asked you that off air, But your family's doing well. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: We just celebrated my son's sixth birthday yesterday, so he's

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Speaker 2: great things. We love this city. We're just going to

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Speaker 2: election years. Hold people accountable because we have to see

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Speaker 1: Street and you like me. No one wants the city

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Speaker 1: feel that we have better ideas for that. The current

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Speaker 1: Why not at least try it? Council Corey Bouma, we

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Speaker 1: will talk again soon. Keep up the great work and

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Speaker 1: get a cup of coffee at King's Arms coffee shop

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Speaker 1: in West Send. Support Corey Boem and there's again a

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