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Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess it is twenty nine degrees. It didn't

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Speaker 1: What's coming up with the fifty five caresee Morning Show

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Speaker 1: today seven o five the return of Congressman Warren Davidson.

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Speaker 1: I really enjoy having Congressman Davidson on the program. I'm

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Speaker 1: glad he's willing to do so. Got to make it

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Speaker 1: a regular segment out of this weekly and today we'll

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Speaker 1: talk healthcare. A couple of different proposals floating around out there.

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Speaker 1: They promised to vote, remember to open the government back up.

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Speaker 1: The Republicans said, yeah, we'll vote on whatever you put forward.

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Speaker 1: In terms of extending the healthcare subsidies or not. Republicans

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Speaker 1: is a pretty lean proposal. It's just keep the subsidies

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Speaker 1: in place three years, three years, not two, not five,

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Speaker 1: reopening of the government that well, it's not going to

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Speaker 1: So anyway, and the Democrats aren't putting anything in there.

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Speaker 1: In terms of the fraud, waste, and abuse that's been

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Speaker 1: and abuse. Republicans proposal at least has some measures in

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Speaker 1: they're designed to prevent those who are not eligible for

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Speaker 1: eligible for. Interesting. Wow, they're looking out for fraud. There's

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Speaker 1: an interesting thought. Keep going back to my ongoing and

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Speaker 1: recurring theme of late why not start with that? Damn it?

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Speaker 1: You know, you start talking about a proposal, let's start

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Speaker 1: with preventing fraud wasteed abuse number one. There will be

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Speaker 1: efforts to follow up after the subsidies or whatever money's

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Speaker 1: it's not flowing out to I don't know, people who

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Speaker 1: aren't eligible for it. There's an interesting thought. Anyhow, at

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Speaker 1: least the Republican's proposal has some of that. We might

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Speaker 1: that with Congressman Davidson. Topic number one plus bombing smugglers. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we talked about that yesterday, of course, with Judge Jennen

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Speaker 1: He's going to respond to the city council. What is

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Speaker 1: my notes suggests rubber stamping the eight point one million

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Speaker 1: do believe this is a settlement of civil rights violations. Now,

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Speaker 1: These weren't people vandalizing, They were actually arrested for curfew violations. Well,

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Speaker 1: there's no constitutional prohibition for a social gathering. Look at

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Speaker 1: your first Amendment. It wasn't a declaration of martial law.

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Speaker 1: It was our idiots and elected officials who said you

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Speaker 3: Happy Friday Eve. Brian.

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Speaker 4: I read an article on Breitbart, where Secretary Rawlins was

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Speaker 4: commenting on the eleven billion dollar bailout that the Trump

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Speaker 3: It a want a bailout?

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Speaker 1: So it structured of a sentence structure, he botched and incorrect,

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Speaker 4: No, well, I hope that's the case. But you know

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Speaker 1: Well, it seems to me like the fog of war.

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Speaker 4: That's because for some reason that justifies that it's just

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Speaker 3: Certainty that we deserve?

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Speaker 3: Do you are you getting the certainty that you deserve?

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Speaker 4: You're never gonna make it as a farmer, brother.

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Speaker 3: Keep some of that money around.

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Speaker 4: But anyways, it's this is why I am celebrating.

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Speaker 4: They are spending money we don't have. And I will

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Speaker 1: appreciate your observations as always, have a wonderful day. Five

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Speaker 1: them drunken sailor spending congress does not spend like a

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Speaker 6: So have I to answer Jay's question? Hopefully I don't

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Speaker 6: there's a lot of people that know me, and you go, yeah, yep,

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Speaker 1: No, you prove yourself. Let me guess you showed up

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Speaker 6: and a bunch of government money get pumped into it.

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Speaker 6: And I am pulling into a site right now, a

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Speaker 6: and it's all about healthcare. It's uh, it's it's for

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Speaker 6: a company that's gonna make pharmaceuticals. And a lot of

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Speaker 6: money has been pumped into this project, and uh, I

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Speaker 6: mean billions, and I mean this is this is extremely

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Speaker 6: huge job and all that and and a lot of

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Speaker 6: this stuff is coming out of our pockets. You know,

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Speaker 6: about how expensive it is up here.

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Speaker 1: Do what make your point? We're out of time.

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Speaker 6: My point is, uh, we gotta we gotta be careful

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Speaker 6: how much how much of our money we're letting these

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Speaker 6: people take and uh, you know, people like what can

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Speaker 6: we do about it? Yeah, you got to get more

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Speaker 6: take your money and your vote is is probably the

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Speaker 6: easiest thing to go to. And you got to look

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Speaker 6: at who's taking your money and who's voting what on

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Speaker 6: how to get rid of your money and take it

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Speaker 6: Don't vote Democrat.

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Speaker 1: Have a great day, Brank, good luck on the job.

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Speaker 1: Don talk station five forty coming up a five forty

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Speaker 1: three seven hundred two three talk and a pair of

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Speaker 1: last segment, So Tom, thanks for holding over the break there.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the program, Jarn Bryan.

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Speaker 8: So during Thanksgiving, I was sitting there thinking about the

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Speaker 8: things I'm thankful for. One Number one was Kamala Harris

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Speaker 8: did not get into the office.

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Speaker 1: Amen.

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Speaker 8: And number two, Donald Trump did not pick Judge Napolitano

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Speaker 8: for the Supreme Court.

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Speaker 1: Never would have happened. Say what that never would have happened.

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Speaker 1: He was he never had a chance.

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Speaker 8: Well that's good because I kind of think that he

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Speaker 8: does not have much of a spine when it comes

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Speaker 8: to taking care of drug dealers and blowing up boats.

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Speaker 1: It's not a question of it's not a question of spine.

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Speaker 1: It's a question of constitutional theory and law. He is

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Speaker 1: a constitutional purist, and I'm happy with him on this.

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Speaker 1: There is no I mean, I even say authorization for

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Speaker 1: you some military forces and constitutions. Isn't nothing in the

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Speaker 1: Constitution that allows for the basically a sub declaration of war.

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Speaker 1: You either a war or not. But they have a

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Speaker 1: workaround because we deal with a weird, ever evolving, crazy,

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Speaker 1: crazy world, and that's where political expedience tends to substitute

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Speaker 1: itself for what the Constitution actually allows for. So, I mean,

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Speaker 1: he's like almost a lone voice in the wilderness Congress

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Speaker 1: from Massey, Ran, Paul and Me to a large extent,

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Speaker 1: agree with his position on the Constitution as it relates

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Speaker 1: to dealing with these drug dealers off the coast of Venezuela.

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Speaker 9: Well, when they're out there in non territorial waters, anything

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Speaker 9: can go, and we are paying massive amounts of money

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Speaker 9: on drug rehabilitation facilities, broken families, drug addictions.

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Speaker 8: Just look on the county websites any time and look at.

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Speaker 1: Isn't that the problem? Why do we pay for that?

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Speaker 1: Why am I paying for let just theoretically, say your

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Speaker 1: medical bills. Why am my response was a taxpayer to

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Speaker 1: pay for narcan and drug rehabilitation. I mean there's a

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Speaker 1: very harsh reality that could go along with this, and

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Speaker 1: it sort of springs from the Politanus point like, and

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Speaker 1: it used to be my position, which is, listen, I

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Speaker 1: don't want to criminalize you're abusing your own body. You

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Speaker 1: want to abuse your body, You're going to do so

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Speaker 1: your own detriment, and you might die. That's a consequence

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Speaker 1: of using drugs. The problem is that we as a

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Speaker 1: society need to be oh my god, we need to

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Speaker 1: help the people. We need to do something about it

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Speaker 1: that comes at a taxpayer expense. Throw out the altruism

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Speaker 1: and throw out that, you know, perhaps Judeo Christian based

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Speaker 1: need and desire to help people from themselves, and you

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Speaker 1: don't have any problem with legalizing drugs. Darwin will kick

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Speaker 1: in and they will die. So if there's no cost

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Speaker 1: associated with it. Then you don't have to make you

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Speaker 1: don't have to criminalize drugs. You let them in the country,

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Speaker 1: and the people who choose to use them, well, they'll die.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I understand that, Okay, But when you're blowing up

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Speaker 8: a drug boat, when you're hit by a bomb, that's

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Speaker 8: pretty much an instantaneous depth.

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Speaker 1: No one can do. No one's denying that, Tom. The

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Speaker 1: reality of it is stark. There is the drug boat.

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Speaker 1: It's gone. It's much much more complicated that from a

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Speaker 1: legal philosophy when you start considering we have a constitution

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Speaker 1: and the only reason that drug boat ain't there no

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Speaker 1: more is because we are fighting the drug war because

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Speaker 1: it's killing people in the United States. Yes, but it's

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Speaker 1: also costing us a ton of money for the reasons

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Speaker 1: I just pointed out. Now we want to take the

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Speaker 1: harsh road and say sorry, sucks to you. We're no

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Speaker 1: longer going to have drug rehabilitation programs, no longer to

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Speaker 1: provide free NARCAN. The taxpayers are no longer gonna be

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Speaker 1: on the dole or the on the on the hook

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Speaker 1: to pay for those expenses. Then you can legalize drugs.

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Speaker 1: We no longer need to blow up the drug boats

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Speaker 1: and the death and the aftermath of a terrible problem

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Speaker 1: will be quite evident. You be shoveling bodies off the

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Speaker 1: streets as opposed to empty narcan containers or something. So

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Speaker 1: it's very complicated. It's not just simple. And the the

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Speaker 1: simple answer is blow them up before they get here.

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Speaker 1: Why because we've got this crazy system that we live under.

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Speaker 1: But I don't think that makes it legal.

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Speaker 8: And so that's why we have a Supreme Court, and

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Speaker 8: we need smarter people like not to Johnnie Brown on

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Speaker 8: the court system, but we need more people that are

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Speaker 8: going to rule in favor. And you know, you can

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Speaker 8: always bend the law. I see it every day in

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Speaker 8: these court systems. They let criminals out of jail all

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Speaker 8: the time. So you know, you pick and choose which

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Speaker 8: way you want to go down the road.

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Speaker 1: Yep. And for whatever reason, we have chosen to try

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Speaker 1: to rehabilitate drug users, and uh we are. It comes

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Speaker 1: at a significant expense. We have chosen collectively, I guess

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Speaker 1: because of Obamacare, to pay for other people's medical bills.

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Speaker 1: We make the arguments all day long, but once you

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Speaker 1: start shouldering the taxpayer with someone else's expensive that's a

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Speaker 1: slippery slope. Go down, and you might you find yourself

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Speaker 1: with a thirty seven trillion dollar hole in the ground.

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Speaker 1: Just saying I'm not being evil. I'm not saying I

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Speaker 1: advocate for that necessarily, but these are the practical results

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Speaker 1: oh five, first guest in the morning before I get

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Speaker 1: back to the phone. It's gotta go with this one

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Speaker 1: because I don't do door dash for a variety of reasons,

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Speaker 1: not the least of which is I don't want cold

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Speaker 1: food delivered. I mean, it's tough enough. You pull into

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Speaker 1: a fast food restaurant, which I avoid at all costs.

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Speaker 1: It's not even going to be hot when they handed

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Speaker 1: to you, at least rarely is. Anyway, we've got a

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Speaker 1: DoorDash driver now banned after being accused of spraying a

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Speaker 1: customer's order of pepper spray. It is all caught in

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Speaker 1: a doorbell camera outside their home in Evansville, Indiana. So

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Speaker 1: the driver, who's yet to be charged with a crime,

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Speaker 1: dropped off and Arby's delivered and Mark Carton and his wife,

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Speaker 1: Mandy doordass. Driver snapped a photo of the delivery, then

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Speaker 1: pulled an object out of her pocket spray the order.

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Speaker 1: The worker, described as blue haired, placed the spray back

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Speaker 1: into her jacket, walked away. Couple brought the order inside,

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Speaker 1: didn't know anything was wrong with it, started eating the order.

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Speaker 1: That's when Mandy began struggling to breathe. According to her husband,

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Speaker 1: choking and gasping, and after she had a couple of

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Speaker 1: bites of her food, she actually threw up. So they

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Speaker 1: checked the doorbell ring camera. He said. I had a

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Speaker 1: look at the bag and looked at there was some

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Speaker 1: kind of spray or something. The bag had been tampered with.

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Speaker 1: So I pulled out my doorbell camera and saw the

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Speaker 1: lady who dropped the food off had actually tampered with

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Speaker 1: it on purpose. For some reason, shared the photos on

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Speaker 1: social media looking for help identifying the driver. He tried

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Speaker 1: to contact her, but apparently she had already blocked him

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Speaker 1: from the app. Hmm, so off to the Vandberg County

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Speaker 1: Sheriff's office, who's now looking to well find the driver.

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Speaker 1: Driver has since been banned from the app after this

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Speaker 1: footage surfaced, with Eat or Dash spokesperson saying they have

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Speaker 1: zero tolerance for that type of appalling behavior. He didn't

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Speaker 1: know what was sprayed on the food, mister Cardon, fearing

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Speaker 1: it could have been worse than it was, calling it horrific.

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Speaker 1: So we assume with pepper spray more likely what it is,

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Speaker 1: but now this day and age, it could have been anything. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: another reason why a third party intermediary period. Yes, Joe,

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Speaker 1: the biggest douche.

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Speaker 10: Of the universe, in all the galaxies, there's no bigger

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Speaker 10: douche than you. You've reached the top the pinnacle of

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Speaker 10: douche them. Good going, Deuce, your dreams have come true.

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Speaker 1: Apparently, if that foreign spray resulted in harm, it could

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Speaker 1: be a level five felony. Let's see what Patrick's gott Patrick,

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Speaker 1: thanks for calling this morning, Welcome on the Morning Show.

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Speaker 2: Hey, good morning, Brian.

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Speaker 7: Hey.

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Speaker 11: The reason that ill is that I don't know if

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Speaker 11: you were aware, but over in Indiana, in lawrence Burg,

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Speaker 11: there is a methodone clinic and it's a in Greendale

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Speaker 11: and back in the mid two thousands, I oversaw the

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Speaker 11: security for Deacon a Hospital while I did private security contracts,

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Speaker 11: I was contracted out to do security for that methodone clinic.

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Speaker 11: And I will tell you the amount of money, and

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Speaker 11: it is federally owned, and the amount of money that

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Speaker 11: place brings in that one clinic is insane. It's about

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Speaker 11: and this was back in like the mid two thousands,

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Speaker 11: it's about five point six million dollars. Wow, because you

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Speaker 11: had seven hundred people plus going through there at thirteen

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Speaker 11: dollars a shot of methadone per day, three hundred and

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Speaker 11: sixty five days. And one of the reasons that everybody

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Speaker 11: he was going to Indiana's because Indiana privacy laws is

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Speaker 11: that they did not require anybody's information to be released

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Speaker 11: to their employer, so you didn't have to put down

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Speaker 11: that you were seeking drug counseling.

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Speaker 2: No.

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Speaker 11: I don't know if you're familiar with what methodone treats,

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Speaker 11: but back then was heroin, heroin, oxy codeone, anything that

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Speaker 11: was a opioid, and they were actually starting to treat

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Speaker 11: cocaine addictions, but they were up in the doses to

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Speaker 11: about thirty dollars a doze per person. So just imagine,

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Speaker 11: because you know the people, there's a clause once a

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Speaker 11: methodone clinic owns, you cannot operate another methodone clinic within

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Speaker 11: one hundred miles of that location, and for that very

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Speaker 11: reason because of the amount of money it brings in.

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Speaker 1: So they create monopoly jurisdictions for the methodone treatment clinics.

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Speaker 1: That doesn't make much sense absolutely considering probably folks that

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Speaker 1: are in need of a methodone treatment probably don't have

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Speaker 1: a vehicle of their own having sold it to buy drugs. Yes, okay,

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Speaker 1: so basically the state has become the drug dealer.

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Speaker 11: You would say so because it's amazing how addictive methodone is.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I'm sure it is. Yeah, layers and layers

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Speaker 1: and layers of complication because the state steps in to

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Speaker 1: solve a problem. Just think about it. It's food for thought.

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Speaker 1: coming up at six o'clock hour. Love to hear from you.

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Speaker 1: We can dive further into details of that conversation or others.

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Speaker 1: Either way we go, I'll be back after the news.

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Speaker 1: Today's top headlines come New.

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Speaker 5: Cat's hold Trump does is negotiate every.

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Speaker 1: Day, and he's an extremely small businessman. Fifty five KRZ

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Speaker 1: the talk station, the six o five fifty five r

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Speaker 1: CD talk station. It's Friday. The guests began one hour

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Speaker 1: from out here in the fifty five caer see morning

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Speaker 1: should return. It's that's a weekly segment anymore. I love it.

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Speaker 1: Congressman Warren Davidson returns and we're talking about the healthcare

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Speaker 1: bills that have been offered. Democrats have theirs keep the

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Speaker 1: subsidies in place for three years with no effort to

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Speaker 1: deal with fraud, waste, and abuse. Republicans have their own

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Speaker 1: versions that are floating around, many of which include extensions

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Speaker 1: of the subsidies to some degree variations of that. Congressman

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Speaker 1: Davidson and his thoughts and where he is on that subject.

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Speaker 1: That'll be topic number one. And then bombing the smugglers,

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Speaker 1: of course, that we talked about that yesterday with Congressman

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Speaker 1: Warren are with with Judge Nita Palatano and Thomas Massey

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Speaker 1: Congressman Massey and Judge Poulton of both in the same

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Speaker 1: page on that one. I tend to agree with him.

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Speaker 1: Going back to the last hour, really I think the

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Speaker 1: whole problem. And Neapolitany even brought it up. He doesn't

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Speaker 1: believe in as it was kind of my former position.

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Speaker 1: I don't believe in criminalizing self abuse. That's my you

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Speaker 1: have libertarian philosophy, you want to kill yourself? I suppose

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Speaker 1: it's you know what drugs do to you. It's impossible

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Speaker 1: to escape all the information out there about how dangerous

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Speaker 1: drugs are. I guess the real problem springs from the

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Speaker 1: fact that we as a society try to help those

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Speaker 1: people get out of that addiction syndrome. It's a huge

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Speaker 1: societal cost. And you know, my sort of flip on

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Speaker 1: that reality is when you do legalize, and we saw

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Speaker 1: the experiment like in Portland. Look what happened to Portland.

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Speaker 1: Say what you want about it, but the legalization of drugs,

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Speaker 1: they were everywhere. People were laying around on the streets.

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Speaker 1: And when you got a fentanyl problem, you're not a

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Speaker 1: productive member of society. But you still have to eat

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Speaker 1: and people worry about you sleeping out on the streets.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, we got to deal with the homeless problem.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, we gotta deal with addiction problem. Oh

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Speaker 1: my god. We need an NGO to come and solve

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Speaker 1: the problem. There's all your taxpayer money flowing into the situation.

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Speaker 1: It's not that I don't understand where that desire to

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Speaker 1: help comes from. But if we lived in a world

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Speaker 1: where there was no government fix not that it's fixed

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Speaker 1: the problem, we wouldn't be blowing boats up off the

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Speaker 1: coast of Vona as well, would we? Just saying what

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Speaker 1: makes it complicated? It's the criminalization of the drugs and

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Speaker 1: everything that flows from that. And once they're criminalized, and

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Speaker 1: you've got to deal with the drugs trying to get

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Speaker 1: in the country, to try to stop the people who

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Speaker 1: are making a profit off of something that's in huge demand.

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Speaker 1: If you can't get rid of the demand because people

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Speaker 1: are well inclined to use drugs, it seems to me,

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Speaker 1: and I'm not offering this as a valid solution, so

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Speaker 1: don't call me cruel and evil, But if you just

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Speaker 1: let Darwin work, then the problem sends to solve. It

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Speaker 1: tends to solve itself. And I believe there was a

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Speaker 1: president of I think it was Philippines or some other

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Speaker 1: country when asked about how come you don't have any

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Speaker 1: you know, interdiction programs, you don't have any you know,

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Speaker 1: treatment programs. How come the taxpayer dollars aren't being used to,

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Speaker 1: you know, solve the addiction problems. The problem solves itself.

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Speaker 1: In other words, Darwin kicks in o't. But the legality

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Speaker 1: of it is what Massey and Napolitano and I are

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Speaker 1: talking about. When it comes to blowing up boats off

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Speaker 1: the coast of Venezuela. That whole concept of due process

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Speaker 1: was the boat really? Did the boat really have drugs?

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Speaker 1: Who do you trust on that? Do you trust your government? Really?

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Speaker 1: After everything we've learned, I mean, if you're a big

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Speaker 1: Trump fan, you saw what government can do. And we're

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Speaker 1: still learning more and more every single day about all

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Speaker 1: these plots that were hatched against Trump to undermine him

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Speaker 1: as a viable candidate at the outset. Whoops, he got elected,

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Speaker 1: then to undermine him get doing literally anything he wanted

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Speaker 1: to do during his first presidency. And of course that

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Speaker 1: conduct continues, so springing from the idea that I have

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Speaker 1: little trust in my government, most notably depending on who's

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Speaker 1: at the helm. Do you trust the government when they

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Speaker 1: tell you they're a drug terrorist, they're a narco terrorist?

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Speaker 1: That boat was filled with drugs? Well, I'd like to

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Speaker 1: see the information confirming that so called fact, and then

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Speaker 1: there springs from that the whole idea. Okay, if you

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Speaker 1: literally have identified someone as a narco terrorist and they

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Speaker 1: are in fact ferrying drugs, where was that boat going?

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Speaker 1: Is there a demand elsewhere in the world for these drugs?

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Speaker 1: Of course there is, so it is extraordinarily complicated. But

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Speaker 1: again theoretically moving away from the reality of how we're

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Speaker 1: trying to deal with the drug problem in the world.

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Speaker 1: Absent government intervention, then you are looking at a situation

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Speaker 1: where it probably would solve itself. I don't know. I

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Speaker 1: don't know. Dan Hills, former FOP president Dan Hills putting

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Speaker 1: his well former FOP president had on, former police officer

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Speaker 1: had on and talking about since at council approven the

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Speaker 1: one point eight million dollars settlement for arresting people that

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Speaker 1: were congregating in the streets. Again, I do believe fundamentally

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Speaker 1: civil rights violation. The curfew laws do have an exceptional

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Speaker 1: least the current ones for gathering within one's First Amendment

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Speaker 1: right to free assembly and free exercise speech. So I'm

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Speaker 1: guessing that is the impetus behind the settlement, and because

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Speaker 1: the sinsint police officers enforced the curfew, arrested people who

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Speaker 1: were assembling, not committing crimes, just violating the curfew. That's

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Speaker 1: why it ultimately ended up in the settlement. The city's

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Speaker 1: on the hook for the vast majority of it. In

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Speaker 1: spite of the question marks from some of the members

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Speaker 1: of council when discussing this and approving it yesterday. How

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Speaker 1: come the counties only on the hook for sixty five

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Speaker 1: or for just a small slice of this. The reason

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Speaker 1: it's because, well, the Sheriff's department was merely holding those

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Speaker 1: that were arrested by the CINCINNT Police Department who were

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Speaker 1: enforcing the curfew law. So Dan Hill's on that topic

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Speaker 1: coming up. Seven point thirty. Destiny Edwards, filmmaker from Competitive

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Speaker 1: Enterprise Institute, an award winning doc documentary, Dear Mister President,

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Speaker 1: The Letters of Julia saying that'll be an eight of

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Speaker 1: five fall by iHeart Media aviation expert Jay Ratliffe five

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Speaker 1: on three, seven fifty fred two three Talk Pound five

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Speaker 1: fifty on eight and T phone. Speaking of drugs, we

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Speaker 1: give new Us the House centate to prove the HEMP regulations.

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Speaker 1: Looks like it's going to be signing the law by

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Speaker 1: Governor de Wine. I'll get to that in a moment.

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Speaker 1: I we'll see it, Steve Scott, Steve, thanks for calling

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Speaker 1: this morning. Welcome to the show.

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Speaker 12: Yes, sir, I hope you enjoyed your four days off.

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Speaker 12: Of course, we're always sad when you're gone. But at

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Speaker 12: the same time, I say, we like, I like, I

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Speaker 12: speak for the audience, but happy for you that you

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Speaker 12: get to enjoy some time off and recharge yourself. That's

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Speaker 12: a day off the wonderful thing when you work. I'm

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Speaker 12: semi retired. I would be scared to be off seven

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Speaker 12: days a week. So I'm off four days a week.

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Speaker 12: So I really enjoy the days off, but I enjoy

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Speaker 12: going to work.

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Speaker 1: That's funny, Steve. We my wife irrelevant but certainly substantive reason.

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Speaker 1: I bring this up. Met with our financial planner the

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Speaker 1: other day and we talk about retirement because getting close

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Speaker 1: to the retirement age, and the one thing that frightens

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Speaker 1: me about retirement it's not you know, not having resources

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Speaker 1: deliver anything. It's what in the hell are you going

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Speaker 1: to do with yourself, Thomas, you know, staring into the mirror,

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Speaker 1: wondering how I'm going to deal with retirement. Since I

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Speaker 1: really literally have no idea what I'm going to do.

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Speaker 1: That's the thing that's keep keeping me from retiring.

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Speaker 12: I think, well, I'm I'll tell you what I think long

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Speaker 12: and hard about that. I mean, because now I stopped

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Speaker 12: doing what I did, which had a little bit of

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Speaker 12: pressure on it, and I do menial work now, which

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Speaker 12: they are desperate for people that'll do grunt work. And generationally,

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Speaker 12: and this is funny. I mean, I you know, I

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Speaker 12: can tell you what I do.

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Speaker 7: I do food.

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Speaker 12: Delivery for Croker. I mean, you know, we all we

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Speaker 12: all buy food from them, and you know, and I'm

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Speaker 12: an AM talk radio junkie. So three days a week

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Speaker 12: I'm driving around, you know, five thirty in the morning

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Speaker 12: till like two thirty in the afternoon. I meet nice people,

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Speaker 12: and I listen to the radio and they're they're paying

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Speaker 12: me to listen to the radio. That's great, and you

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Speaker 12: get you get a heck of a workout physically too,

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Speaker 12: with a lot of stairs, and but it's fun. I

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Speaker 12: enjoy it.

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Speaker 2: I'm glad you out.

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Speaker 1: You know, Yeah, I'm really glad you enjoyed. I think

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Speaker 1: that that human element, dealing with people and meeting new

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Speaker 1: people is really I think that's a compelling thing to

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Speaker 1: as a reason to want to work. And you hear

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Speaker 1: being on the morning show now coming up in twenty years.

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Speaker 1: The one thing I still miss from my old job

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Speaker 1: at Anthon Blue Cross, Blue Shield is being in the

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Speaker 1: legal department with all the other people and interacting with

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Speaker 1: them every day. You know, I interact with Joe Strecker

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Speaker 1: and which is a great thing. But that's about it

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Speaker 1: because I'm out of here before everybody else shows up

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Speaker 1: in the morning. So it's a weird, weird thing. But

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Speaker 1: I do. I do love that interaction with people, and

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Speaker 1: I think that's a great thing that you're doing. And

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Speaker 1: I'm glad you're doing it in retirement and enjoy it.

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Speaker 12: No, it's fun. Yeah, And I'm just three years older

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Speaker 12: than you, so I mean you you know, think about that.

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Speaker 12: I've done this like eighteen months now, so it is fun.

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Speaker 12: I enjoy it. But you really appreciate a day off.

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Speaker 12: If I had seven days off a week, I would

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Speaker 12: walk around the house and my wife would would throw

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Speaker 12: me out of the house, right, I would, because I

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Speaker 12: walk around and look at the way to the neighbors

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Speaker 12: and you know.

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Speaker 6: Why, why is he leaving it?

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Speaker 12: Seven thirty today. He left at seven thirty five yesterday.

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Speaker 12: I meant, I'm like the Monty Python people where they're

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Speaker 12: they're they're writing everything down, they've got telescopes and they're

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Speaker 12: watching everybody. Yeah, okay, just a real quick point. I

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Speaker 12: live in Independence, Kentucky. Thomas Massey is my representative. I've

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Speaker 12: talked to you a couple of times about him, and

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Speaker 12: I really like him, you know, and and I want

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Speaker 12: that to come across. But I am frustrated with him.

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Speaker 12: But the gist of the story is about three weeks ago,

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Speaker 12: knock on the door and it was somebody representing Thomas

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Speaker 12: Massey campaigning for him. And I am very, very welcoming

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Speaker 12: to anybody, be it the candidate or a representative that

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Speaker 12: that would that would spend their time. You know, walking

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Speaker 12: around knocking on doors can't be easy, so I'm very polite.

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Speaker 12: I'm polite to anybody. But but you know, we had

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Speaker 12: a conversation and I said, my frustration with him is

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Speaker 12: with the votes he is making. I know he's a

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Speaker 12: man of principle, but he's got Maxine Waters and AOC

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Speaker 12: on his side all the time, and the Dems don't

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Speaker 12: care how they peel off those votes. They don't care

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Speaker 12: how they get that person on their side. I said,

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Speaker 12: there's a frustration from my wife and I and we're

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Speaker 12: going to think long and hard in the primary and

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Speaker 12: see what we're going to do.

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Speaker 1: Well, what caught on before? You look at who's joining

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Speaker 1: with him? What is it that you find offensive about

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Speaker 1: some particular piece of legislation that he's behind with this?

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Speaker 12: And I'm going to quote him about a year ago.

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Speaker 1: And we're almost out a time here, so get to

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Speaker 1: the point here real quick.

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Speaker 12: They're Steve okay, Well, about a year ago McConnell said

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Speaker 12: he's going to retire. And you asked Massey if he

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Speaker 12: was going to run for the seat in the Senate.

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Speaker 12: He said, no, same circus, different set of clowns. So

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Speaker 12: he is in a circus. I understand that he's in

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Speaker 12: a group four p. Thirty five. You gotta put on

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Speaker 12: the big floppy shoes and the red nose because you

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Speaker 12: voluntarily joined the circus and when your party needs that vote,

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Speaker 12: you gotta you gotta do it.

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Speaker 1: Well, you're missing the point of why Congress from mess

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Speaker 1: he does what he does. He doesn't need that job.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't pay much at all, it's a hassle, it's

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Speaker 1: a headache. It draws national focus on a single guy.

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Speaker 1: I would avoid that headache, like the plague. He's got

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Speaker 1: fifty five.

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Speaker 12: Keep running for reelection, I.

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Speaker 1: Know, because he is a constitutional puristy you want to

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Speaker 1: demonstrate that. That's his motivation for running.

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Speaker 12: His constituents are fed up. I will, well, then they

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Speaker 12: can vote.

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Speaker 1: Him out, that Steve, Then they can vote him out.

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Speaker 12: We're hearing a lot of this, aren't you. And the

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Speaker 12: guy said, yes, yeah, we'll see what happens exactly.

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Speaker 1: We will. And I have confidence in the voters in

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Speaker 1: northern Kentucky. They like him for his firm stance on

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Speaker 1: the constitution. I think that's why he keeps being brought

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Speaker 1: back time and time again. Somebody's got to speak the

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Speaker 1: truth to power six seventeen and Democrats will only join

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Speaker 1: him when they find it expeeding for them.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 1: If you have Karsty talk station No. Constant hundred two

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Speaker 1: to three talk time five fifty on AT and T phone,

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Speaker 1: see what Dick's got this morning. Dick, thanks for calling.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Morning Show.

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Speaker 13: Morning Brian, Good day to you. My comment to Steve

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Speaker 13: is that's why we likes Thomas Massey, unlike Rand Paul

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Speaker 13: and Judge the Politano who have our tendency to complain

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Speaker 13: but not resolved. Thomas said something yesterday on your show

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Speaker 13: that made me reflect on why it is that I

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Speaker 13: am a normal supporter of Thomas, and that is he

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Speaker 13: agrees with the Polatono that the actions in the Caribbean

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Speaker 13: are in violation of the Constitution. The difference, though, is

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Speaker 13: Thomas does what the legislature is supposed to do. He

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Speaker 13: enables the president to do what he's doing legally by

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Speaker 13: putting together a resolution that says he could do that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, good point, Dick. That's I mean, that's right. He's

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Speaker 1: a purist. When it comes to the Constitution. There is

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Speaker 1: a mechanism to engage in war. It's either a declaration

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Speaker 1: of war or the constitutionally questionable authorization for you military force.

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Speaker 1: I would much rather have Congress chime in and issue

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Speaker 1: an authorization for you military force. Setting the parameters on

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Speaker 1: where bombs can get dropped and not get dropped. We're

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Speaker 1: gonna end up in a shooting war. If you have

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Speaker 1: a president who's free to drop bombs anywhere. He might

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Speaker 1: drop a bomb on a country that could actually defend

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Speaker 1: itself like China or Russia. You know, I mean we

919
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Speaker 1: end up in World War three over stuff like that.

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Speaker 1: You're a safe bomb in Venezuela because then you have

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Speaker 1: a military to speak of it. It's a corrupt government.

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Speaker 1: That's shawn shaky grounds anyway, right, agreed.

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Speaker 13: So that's why I've been in favor of Thomas actually

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Speaker 13: taking the job that mister Johnson has right now, because

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Speaker 13: he's consistently the person in Congress, and there's a couple others,

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Speaker 13: but it's a small few. But Larren Davidson is also

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Speaker 13: in that pile of people that actually follows his who

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Speaker 13: is upbringing does the right thing. And so those two

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Speaker 13: guys are my favorite candidates for Speaker of the House.

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Speaker 1: That would be wonderful, wouldn't that send shockwaves through the

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Speaker 1: rest of the House.

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Speaker 13: Dick Johnson has proved himself unable to lead. There's not

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Speaker 13: much difference than between him and the last several that

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Speaker 13: we've had, going back all the way to the age

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Speaker 13: of Clinton.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it is not an enviable possession. Is a treasure, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he is. He'd be firm in his convictions and that

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Speaker 1: he would run the House the way he well runs

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Speaker 1: his seat. You could count on him and you would

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Speaker 1: know what was coming a mile away when congressomme, Messy's

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Speaker 1: at the helm. But that is not a job that

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Speaker 1: I would take. You could quadruple the salary and I

943
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Speaker 1: still wouldn't take that job. Speakers were all sucks. It's

944
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Speaker 1: like constantly hurting cats and all the cats are angry

945
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Speaker 1: and hate each other. That's just within your own party.

946
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Speaker 1: Six twenty five AFT you five k se the talk station,

947
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Speaker 1: feel free to give me a call. Also another call

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Speaker 1: you and I want to make if you're dealing with pain,

949
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Speaker 1: how about making calendar your twenty twenty six of pain

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Speaker 1: for the talk station thirty if you have a pair

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Speaker 1: CD talk station always welcoming phone calls. I do have

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Speaker 1: local stories in front of me. But if you want

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Speaker 1: to call field three five one, three, seven, four nine

954
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Speaker 1: fifty five hundred, eight hundred eight two three talks. City

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Speaker 1: Council approved the settlement yesterday eight point one million dollars settlement,

956
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Speaker 1: Hamilton County paying sixty five thousand dollars of the settlement.

957
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Speaker 1: This relates to the lawsuit that was filed by eleven people,

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Speaker 1: joined later by four hundred plaintiffs. Who were all claiming

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Speaker 1: that the curfew set in place by Mayor John Cranley

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Speaker 1: at the time was unconstitutional and led to unlawful imprisonment

961
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Speaker 1: of protesters. So you had the May twenty ninth protest,

962
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Speaker 1: which devolved into vandalization and other crimes being committed love

963
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Speaker 1: and people got arrested. That was May twenty ninth of

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty. I can't believe it's been that long. This

965
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Speaker 1: is George Floyd related protest, you may recall that. So

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Speaker 1: Cranley the next ding announced a ten pm curfew four

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Speaker 1: just specific neighborhoods. So there after hundreds of people across

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Speaker 1: the city got arrested for curfew violations and the component

969
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Speaker 1: of this regarding the county. They were held at the

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Speaker 1: Hamilton County Justice Center in what they called sally Port,

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Speaker 1: which is described as an area with four walls no

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Speaker 1: roof that was supervised by the Hamilton County Deputies. Some

973
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Speaker 1: claimed they were denied food, water, and bathroom breaks. That aside,

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Speaker 1: but the Lion's share of this settlement if it's approved

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Speaker 1: by the federal court, which, of course city council rubber

976
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Speaker 1: stamped yesterday eight million dollars, but also there's a non

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Speaker 1: monetary portion of the settlement which includes policy changes within

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Speaker 1: the sin Sinnty Police Department specifically, and I don't know

979
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Speaker 1: what this ultimately will mean. That's why we're having Dan

980
00:52:41,840 --> 00:52:44,040
Speaker 1: Hills joined the program in one hour to talk about this.

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Speaker 1: The creation of a Civil Disturbance Operation Procedure Guidebook described

982
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Speaker 1: as standardizing and formalizing sin sint Police Department operations during

983
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Speaker 1: protests and similar events. Creation of a standard dispersal order

984
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Speaker 1: in a cap on that same with the CDP that

985
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Speaker 1: the officers will use during civil disturbances. Standard dispersal order.

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Speaker 1: I guess it's like Miranda Rights. They will read a

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Speaker 1: specific dispersal order during civil disturbances. Uniformity, I suppose is important.

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Speaker 1: I guess updated procedures to notify and collaborate with Hamilton

989
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Speaker 1: County Municipal Court, Justice Center, Juvenile Court in Hamilton County

990
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Speaker 1: Juvenile Detention Center when the Sinni Police Department anticipates mass arrests.

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Speaker 1: I find no problem with that coordination anyway. All the

992
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Speaker 1: information provided the City of Cincinnati by the City of

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Speaker 1: CINCINNAI spokesperson Molly Laire when the settlement was announced this

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Speaker 1: past Friday, so members of council, Scottie Johnson and jam

995
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Speaker 1: Michelle lemon Kearney questioned the committee about why Hamilton County

996
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Speaker 1: only paying sixty five thousand dollars. Johnson brought up the

997
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Speaker 1: protesters being held in the sally Port at the Hamilton

998
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Speaker 1: County Justice Center. Werner, the spokesperson, said, though the settlement

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Speaker 1: agreement does not contain any admission of wrongdoing on behalf

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Speaker 1: of the city, there are allegations in the complaint that

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Speaker 1: exceed the issues in the sally Port, and I think

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Speaker 1: that's the constitutionality of Cranley's order. I notably, I use

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Speaker 1: the words I think, and I contrast whatever Cranleigh's order

1004
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Speaker 1: was on curfews with the ones that were announced over

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Speaker 1: this summer, which also included an exception for exercising one's

1006
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Speaker 1: First Amendment rights to free assembly. And I think that's

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Speaker 1: really the genesis behind this lawsuit City curfew. Cincinnati police

1008
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Speaker 1: executed the or rather arrested people for the violation of

1009
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Speaker 1: the curfew. If the law itself was unconstitutional, then of

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Speaker 1: course the actions of the city since city since any

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Speaker 1: police department interesting people deemed a civil rights violation. Now

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Speaker 1: I'm prepared to be corrected on my analysis of that,

1013
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Speaker 1: but that's the way I see this unfolding. Former FOP

1014
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Speaker 1: President Dan Hills one hour from now will chime in

1015
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Speaker 1: on that topic. New security measures which are hoping to

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Speaker 1: keep residents safe in the City of Bellevue. Last night's

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Speaker 1: city voted to add Flock cameras, described as a form

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Speaker 1: of license plate readers. They're going to be on the

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Speaker 1: city limits. Apparently it was a difficult decision for the council,

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Speaker 1: and in fact they say it's the first time the

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Speaker 1: City of Bellevue mayor had to break a tie vote,

1022
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Speaker 1: ultimately voting in favor of a contract with Flock Incorporated.

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Speaker 1: Described as a public safety technology system, it's the license

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Speaker 1: plate scanning scanners. Bellevue Police Chief John McClain quota of saying,

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Speaker 1: we like putting the bad guys that need to be

1026
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Speaker 1: behind bars behind bars, and any tool that helps us

1027
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Speaker 1: do that streamline and get it done faster, we're thrilled

1028
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Speaker 1: to have. So they're going to be placed at the

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Speaker 1: City of Bellevue's entrances and exits to help insure more

1030
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Speaker 1: security for the residents. Cameras designed to read every license

1031
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Speaker 1: plate going in and out of the city. According to

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Speaker 1: Brooklyn Andres reporting for Fox nineteen, in an effort to

1033
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Speaker 1: track the stolen vehicles, the system will alert police within

1034
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Speaker 1: thirty seconds if a stolen vehicle enters Bellevue limits. And

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Speaker 1: we need something like that with ankle monitors, don't we

1036
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Speaker 1: wouldn't that be cool? And then if somebody violates an

1037
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Speaker 1: ankle monitor, the police are alerted within thirty seconds that

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Speaker 1: a bad guy is on the rome in violation of

1039
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Speaker 1: his or her probation. Wow, what an interesting concept that

1040
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Speaker 1: so coming to the city of Bellevue. I love this.

1041
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Speaker 1: Flock cameras or similar systems are currently being used in

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Speaker 1: many areas of surrounding areas surrounding the tri State. Are

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Speaker 1: you ready? Fun fact although the use of these cameras

1044
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Speaker 1: does not ensure vehicles won't be stolen or broken into

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Speaker 1: no excrement on that six point thirty five If five

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Speaker 1: kre se de talk station oto eggs think five care

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Speaker 1: see de talk station. Tryan Thomas right here wishing everybody

1048
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Speaker 1: very happy Thursday. Stick around. Congressman Warren Davidson coming up

1049
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Speaker 1: at seven oh five. We'll talk about the various healthcare

1050
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Speaker 1: reform bills that are going to be voted on very soon.

1051
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Speaker 1: That was part of the agreement to reopen the government.

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Speaker 1: If you recall and neither the Democrats nor the current

1053
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Speaker 1: Republican proposal, or as the case may be, looked like

1054
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Speaker 1: they have enough votes to move forward. So back to

1055
00:57:02,000 --> 00:57:04,520
Speaker 1: square one is which is what I think everybody expected

1056
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Speaker 1: after the government reopened. Former FOP President Dan Hills Cincinnati

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Speaker 1: Council approving that one point eight million dollars settlement. I

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Speaker 1: mentioned at the bottom of the hour on the local news.

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Speaker 1: Filmmaker Destri Edwards at eighth five from the Competitive Enterprise

1060
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Speaker 1: Institute got an award winning documentary to talk about. We'll

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Speaker 1: learn together what dear mister President, the Letters of Julius

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Speaker 1: sand is all about. At eight h five Jay Ratliffe,

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Speaker 1: I heard media aviation expert at eight thirty love hearing

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Speaker 1: from you if you got a comment five one, three, seven, four, nine,

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Speaker 1: fifty five hundred eight eight two three talk pound five

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Speaker 1: fifty on eight and T phones. So the new THCHC ban.

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Speaker 1: Lawmakers on Tuesday sent the legislation over to Governor Mike

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Speaker 1: Dwaine's desk. It's Senate Bill fifty six passed on what

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Speaker 1: they say, party lines twenty two to seven vote will

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Speaker 1: prohibit the sales of all hemp based items containing more

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Speaker 1: than point four milligrams of total THHC. Of course, most

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Speaker 1: people know the main psychoactive drugging cannabis that's more than

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Speaker 1: point four milligrams per container, as well as those containing

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Speaker 1: synthetic canbinoids outside of a licensed medical marijuana dispensary. So

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Speaker 1: no longer will you be able to go to your

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Speaker 1: local convenience store and by THHC hemp derived products. So

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Speaker 1: the legislation, they say, will allow for five milligram hemp

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Speaker 1: derived THHC drinks they have those now to temporarily remain

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Speaker 1: legal in Ohio through the end of the year. That

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Speaker 1: says those beverages will be permitted to be manufactured, distributed,

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Speaker 1: and sold until December thirty, first of next year. They

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Speaker 1: say the bill largely mirror change is passed by Congress

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Speaker 1: last month that essentially banned intoxicating hemp products with more

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Speaker 1: than point four milligrams total THHC. However, this bill states

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Speaker 1: that the federal government reverses itself and legalizes hemp beverages

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Speaker 1: with a higher THCHC limit than what's contained in this

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Speaker 1: SB fifty six, the General Assembly will, well, here's the

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Speaker 1: operative word here, consider making changes to the state law.

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Speaker 1: That's like Hamilton County, the commissioners will consider giving you

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Speaker 1: the tax rebate you were promised when you voted to

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Speaker 1: build a Palm Brown stadium. So you can take that

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Speaker 1: promise to that consideration for what it's worth anyway. Changes

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Speaker 1: include prohibiting people from bringing weed into Ohio from other

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Speaker 1: states like Michigan. They note that Michigan weed is cheaper

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Speaker 1: than Ohio weed, so a little protectionism there for the

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Speaker 1: Ohio dispensaries. Allowing landlords to ban marijuana smoking, vaping, or

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Speaker 1: growing on their property landlords do own the property, erasing

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Speaker 1: protections in current state law prohibiting marijuana use as a

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Speaker 1: grounds four, being rejected for housing, being disciplined by state

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Speaker 1: licensing board, having a court rule that a child is

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Speaker 1: being abused or neglected, disqualifying someone from medical care or

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Speaker 1: an organ transplant. So those protections that previously existed are

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Speaker 1: no longer there. So you better not smoke weed if

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Speaker 1: you need an organ transplant, I guess, Or if you

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01:00:10,040 --> 01:00:12,480
Speaker 1: are well, you hate your spouse and you're hoping to

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Speaker 1: get custody, don't be smoking weed because now apparently they

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Speaker 1: can use that and claim that the children are neglected

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Speaker 1: because of it. Also requiring people to store all marijuana

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Speaker 1: products in their original containers. And I scratch my head

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Speaker 1: over that one. I guess that's so children don't grab

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Speaker 1: your zip block baggy that you took your thc edibles

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Speaker 1: out of and placed into the ziplock baggy as opposed

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Speaker 1: to the original container, which also looks like it's candy

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Speaker 1: for children. What about weed that you grow at home?

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Speaker 1: Because under Ohio law you're allowed to grow quite a

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Speaker 1: few plants in your own house. There is no original container.

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Speaker 1: It is a marijuana product, is it not. It's marijuana.

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Speaker 1: Struggle with that one on your own. Forbidding people in

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Speaker 1: Ohio from growing, cultivating, or possessing homegrown marijuana on behalf

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Speaker 1: of another person, I don't know how you can approve

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Speaker 1: that one. Let's the other person turns you in and

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Speaker 1: claims that you were growing weed for them, Prohibiting people

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Speaker 1: who are fired for marijuana use from obtaining state unemployment benefits,

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Speaker 1: Creating new criminal penalty for drivers caught smoking or vaping cannabis,

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Speaker 1: punishable by up to sixty days in jaenital five hundred

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Speaker 1: dollars fine. That doesn't say anything about being intoxicated, it's

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Speaker 1: just caught smoking. And my understanding of Ohio law and

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Speaker 1: OVI law is if you're in a car and you

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Speaker 1: are drinking, even if you're not drunk, it's the drinking

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Speaker 1: of alcohol in a car that is makes your criminal

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Speaker 1: criminally liable or at least liable for to get a ticket.

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Speaker 1: Now is a criminal penalty if you're caught smoking or

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Speaker 1: vaping in a car. Visions of fast times at Ridgemont

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Speaker 1: High and the van opening up and the smoke billowing out,

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Speaker 1: punishing people caught transferring marijuana to someone younger than twenty one,

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Speaker 1: and finally removing Ohio's current criminal penalties for parents or

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Speaker 1: guardians who knowingly allow underage people to use marijuana at

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Speaker 1: their home or on their property, removing that criminal penalty anyway,

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Speaker 1: quite a few people up in arms, including the THHC

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Speaker 1: beverage manufacturers who are making a lot of money off

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Speaker 1: brewing up those THC and fused beverages. Several of them

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Speaker 1: were interviewed locally by some of the news and found

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Speaker 1: out that well, they're making a heapload of money, and

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Speaker 1: now they're worried that, well this we're going to lose

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Speaker 1: all kinds of money with this change. Do you agree

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Speaker 1: with the changes anyway? If Dwine signs the bill, it'll

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Speaker 1: take effect as soon as March next year. Some people

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Speaker 1: are saying this is an insult to those many voters

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Speaker 1: in the state of Ohio who voted for Issue Too,

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Speaker 1: which legalized marijuana for recreational use in the state of Ohio. Mike,

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Speaker 1: hang on, I'll take your call as soon as they

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01:02:45,680 --> 01:02:47,800
Speaker 1: get back. It's already six forty six amount of time.

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Speaker 1: And I want to mention Colin Electric because they've got

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Speaker 1: a great special going on now. Don't blame Andrew Collin

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Speaker 1: at six fifty one IF fifty five pair CD talk

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Speaker 1: station five one, three seven eight two to three Talk

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Speaker 1: cont Fact fifty on AT and T phone. Here'son Warren

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Speaker 1: Davidson after the top of the UR News. Welcome to

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Speaker 1: the program, Mike, thanks so much for calling this morning.

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Speaker 14: Hi, Brian, talk about the new laws for marijuana and

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Speaker 14: or anything. Right after they passed the law to legalize that,

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Speaker 14: Butler County commissioners got together and they made it so

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Speaker 14: you can't sell it in Butler County.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess they wanted to avoid a dispensary or yeah, well.

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Speaker 14: The problem is you gots like the Meyers across from

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Speaker 14: forest for them all. You can throw a stone across

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Speaker 14: in the forest park at a dispensary right there and

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Speaker 14: it reeks over there.

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Speaker 1: Shocking no one. It's you know, when I grew up,

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Speaker 1: there were a lot of quite a few dry counties.

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Speaker 1: We have relatives in the UH in the Greater Jellico,

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Speaker 1: Tennessee area, and there are a lot of teetotalers down there,

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Speaker 1: and they're dry counties. Guess what, You drive a couple

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Speaker 1: of miles at most and you're in a wet county.

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Speaker 1: That's where you buy your beer, your wine and your

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Speaker 1: liquor and then you take it home.

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Speaker 14: But nice not having to smell it there out Mother

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Speaker 14: County though.

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Speaker 1: True. But I mean, listen, it's like casino gambling way bit,

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Speaker 1: Southeast Indiana's got gambling and we don't hear in Ohio.

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Speaker 1: Guess we need a legislat bill pass to allow gambling

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Speaker 1: in the state of Ohio. Why because all the revenue

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Speaker 1: is going to Southeast Indiana used to be Vegas and Reno.

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Speaker 1: But I guess everybody else figured it out. The Indian

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Speaker 1: Native American Indian tribes figured it out first. They have

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Speaker 1: different laws on Native American lands. You don't have to

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Speaker 1: follow federal law to prohibit gambling. Wait a second, they're

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Speaker 1: getting all the gambling money. We need to do something

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Speaker 1: about that. It is pretty funny when you think about it,

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Speaker 1: but I love that one. You can't transfer marijuana from

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Speaker 1: Michigan into the state of Ohio a measure of protectionism.

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Speaker 1: Are there going to be cops at the border? I

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01:04:51,600 --> 01:04:54,000
Speaker 1: remember the old days a minuder standing as they used

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Speaker 1: to park police officers outside of the liquor stores over

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Speaker 1: in northern Kentucky because you used to be able to

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Speaker 1: save a whole lot of money going across the river

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Speaker 1: to get booze and then bring it back in the

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Speaker 1: state of Ohio. They called that bootlegging. So a word

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Speaker 1: was it that they would follow you from the liquor

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Speaker 1: store into the state of Ohio and arrest you for

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Speaker 1: bootlegging a measure of protectionism, maybe for the state of

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Speaker 1: Ohio's minimum price for booze. Yeah, all right, from the

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Speaker 1: stack is stupid. I gotta get this one in because

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Speaker 1: it just absolutely drove me crazy. A multitude of reasons why.

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Speaker 1: First off, what in the hell is Pantone headline Pantones

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Speaker 1: white Cloud Dancer twenty twenty six color sparks progressive backlash

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Speaker 1: and look like, what the hell is that Pantone? I

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Speaker 1: don't know who Pantone is or what Pantone is, but

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Speaker 1: apparently they were a response for choosing the twenty twenty

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Speaker 1: six color of the year. Does anybody follow this stuff?

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Speaker 1: This is actually a Fox News article. It's a shade

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Speaker 1: of white Cloud Dancer, and so of course people have

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Speaker 1: to be upset about the particular color that was chosen

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Speaker 1: by whatever Pantone is on Thursday, Pantone, the media company

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Speaker 1: that specializes in naming colors. That's the description. What all right?

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Speaker 1: Clearly irrelevant? Who gives a piece of excrement about it?

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Speaker 1: But of course Cloud Dancer being a shade of white,

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Speaker 1: it sparked progressive backlash. La Trese Eisman, executive director of

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Speaker 1: Pantone Color Institutes, and in the press release, the cacophony that

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Speaker 1: surrounds us has become overwhelming, making it harder to hear

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Speaker 1: the voices of our inner selves. A conscious statement of simplification,

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Speaker 1: Cloud Dancer, the color enhances our focus providing release from

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Speaker 1: the distraction of external influences. Well, inspite what they were

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Speaker 1: hoping it will come to bring about. By naming a

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Speaker 1: color white as the do the year to provide a

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Speaker 1: release from the distraction of external influences, it immediately generated

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Speaker 1: a mass quantity of external influences. Don't we have enough

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Speaker 1: to complain and yell about, so let's yell about how

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Speaker 1: this is an act of racism, which is really what

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Speaker 1: this boils down to. Nothing else going on in the world.

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Speaker 1: I suppose en Yeah, I did read about it. I'd

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Speaker 1: like to think for different reasons. Six point fifty six

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Speaker 1: Congressman Warren Davidson, what are the couple of healthcare bills

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Speaker 1: being proposed to deal with the elimination of the expiration

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Speaker 1: rather of the subsidies ender December under Obamacare. We'll talk

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Speaker 1: about healthcare. We'll talk about bombing smugglers, hot topic of

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Speaker 1: late here in the morning show. Plus former FOP president

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Speaker 1: Dan Hills on the council's approval of the one point

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Speaker 1: eight million dollars settlement with the various protesters. That's coming

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Speaker 1: up in the next hour. Who we can stick around

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Speaker 1: Today's top headlines coming It's seven five I fifty five

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Speaker 1: kre ced Talks station Friday Eve. It is that time

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Speaker 1: a week and I so thoroughly enjoyed Congressman Warren davids

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Speaker 1: and joining the program on a regular basis. Welcome back,

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Speaker 1: Congressman Warren Davidson. It's a distinct pleasure to have you

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Speaker 1: on the show again.

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Speaker 15: Yeah, always an honor brand. Nice to talk with you.

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Speaker 1: You're not a senator yet, but apparently the Senate's going

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Speaker 1: to be voting on two proposals as part of the

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Speaker 1: agreement to open up the government again after the forty

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Speaker 1: three days that was shut which actually put a smile

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Speaker 1: a lot of my listeners' faces, I have to say,

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Speaker 1: Congressman Davidson. But that aside two proposals floating around the

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Speaker 1: Senate won the Republican proposal, which is a little more complicated,

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Speaker 1: a lot different than the Democrats proposal, which is simply

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Speaker 1: to extend the healthcare supplements for an additional three years,

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Speaker 1: no other terms of conditions, just a straight three year extension,

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Speaker 1: which is what they were arguing for in essence when

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Speaker 1: they shut the government down. I guess initially if that

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Speaker 1: one was to win the day, and they say so

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Speaker 1: far there is no way either of these proposals got

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Speaker 1: the votes necessary to pass. But theoretically, if that one

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Speaker 1: did pass, we're just merely kicking the can down the

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Speaker 1: road again for another three years, only to have this

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Speaker 1: argument again in three years, I presume, right.

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Speaker 15: Yeah, I mean, Congress is pretty good at the king aim.

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Speaker 15: But so I couldn't totally bet against that happening because

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Speaker 15: there are a couple of Republican proposals too that were

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Speaker 15: introduced as discharged petitions in the House. Brian Fitzpatrick, a

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Speaker 15: moderate from Philadelphia, wants to get Democrats to back his

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Speaker 15: proposal to do a two year extension. And then Jen

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Speaker 15: Keggin's a moderate from Norfolk, Virginia. She's got some other

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Speaker 15: scheme to basically continue. It's basically the Obamacare bailout Act, right,

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Speaker 15: I mean, clearly Obamacare failed. It hasn't made the care

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Speaker 15: more affordable. Let's, as I say, for no good ideas

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Speaker 15: in Obamacare. There were things that did need fixed in

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Speaker 15: our health care system. But this isn't like all of

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Speaker 15: Obamacare goes away, right, I mean, this is just a

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Speaker 15: bonus subsidy that affects about It affects about five percent

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Speaker 15: of the people that get Obamacare, and generally the five

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Speaker 15: percent of people that it affects are you know people

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Speaker 15: if the only income I had was pay from Congress

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Speaker 15: and the only you know, no big set of assets

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01:10:22,160 --> 01:10:25,719
Speaker 15: are haying. If you're making one hundred and eighty thousand

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Speaker 15: dollars a year and you have a family of four,

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Speaker 15: you could still qualify for these kinds of subsidies. This

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Speaker 15: is crazy. This is bonus round stuff. And yeah, okay,

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Speaker 15: people that are making one hundred and eighty two hundred

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Speaker 15: thousand dollars a year, the idea that the government wouldn't

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Speaker 15: keep subsidizing them shouldn't scare people. Right. So the traditional

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Speaker 15: Obamacare person who's you know, making you know, fifty thousand

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Speaker 15: dollars a year, working in a job that doesn't offer healthcare,

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Speaker 15: say a restaurant or something, they don't have benefits, and

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Speaker 15: they sent it for Obamacare, regular Obamacare is in jeopardy.

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Speaker 15: But that doesn't mean it works well. Ask people their

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Speaker 15: healthcare is terrible, They get high out of pocket expenses,

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Speaker 15: their premiums go up double digits every year. But this

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Speaker 15: isn't the program that affects that.

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Speaker 5: It's just status quo.

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Speaker 15: Obama Care is terrible.

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Speaker 1: Well, my understanding, and I've said it many times, this

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Speaker 1: is what I understand the argument to be, and why

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Speaker 1: some Republicans would extend the subsidies in spite of everything.

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Speaker 1: You just point out that, like the Continuing Resolution that

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01:11:29,600 --> 01:11:32,120
Speaker 1: led up to the government shutdown, the Republicans approved the

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01:11:32,160 --> 01:11:35,439
Speaker 1: twenty twenty four spending levels didn't try to pair it back,

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Speaker 1: much to the chagrin of folks like you, maybe Thomas Massey,

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01:11:38,000 --> 01:11:39,960
Speaker 1: which would have liked to have seen some cuts. They

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01:11:40,000 --> 01:11:43,760
Speaker 1: wanted to take all arguments away from Democrats as we

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Speaker 1: approach the expiration of the subsidies. So here we are.

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Speaker 1: You know, we're shutting down, but we left your funding

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Speaker 1: levels the same as last year. You have nothing to

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01:11:49,800 --> 01:11:52,439
Speaker 1: complain about. And they really didn't. That pushed the burden

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01:11:52,479 --> 01:11:54,280
Speaker 1: back over them to say, well, wait a minute, no,

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01:11:54,400 --> 01:11:56,120
Speaker 1: these subsidies a going to inspire. We're all going to die,

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01:11:56,120 --> 01:11:57,559
Speaker 1: blah blah blah. But you're the one that put the

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01:11:57,600 --> 01:12:00,559
Speaker 1: expiration date in. The only reason they were sended and

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01:12:00,680 --> 01:12:04,120
Speaker 1: broadened was because of COVID nineteen. Now long over, they

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01:12:04,120 --> 01:12:07,360
Speaker 1: had no argument. Now pivoting over to this, the Republicans

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01:12:07,400 --> 01:12:10,360
Speaker 1: would extend the subsidies because they want to get past

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Speaker 1: next November. They want to take the win out of

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Speaker 1: the argument that the Democrats will run around screaming, oh

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01:12:15,800 --> 01:12:18,280
Speaker 1: my god, those evil Republicans took away health care from

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01:12:18,320 --> 01:12:21,920
Speaker 1: millions of Americans. But going to that five percent figure

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Speaker 1: you just mentioned, if this is only going to impact

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Speaker 1: five percent of the voters, those who are getting subsidies

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Speaker 1: in excess of the original cap of sixty one five,

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Speaker 1: is that really an election influence percentage? Do the Democrats

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Speaker 1: really have that much traction making that argument going into

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Speaker 1: next year.

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Speaker 15: Well, here's what's succeeding in doing is you know, in

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Speaker 15: twenty seventeen, Republicans campaign on repealing Obama Obamacare. Some said

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Speaker 15: they campaign on repealing and replacing Obamacare. Either way, it

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01:12:51,439 --> 01:12:56,080
Speaker 15: neither happened, right, So since then, people have had bills

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Speaker 15: to try to address our healthcare system. But Republicans have

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Speaker 15: done everything possible to not talk about healthcare since twenty

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Speaker 15: seventeen because they tried and failed to get rid of Obamacare,

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Speaker 15: and so they're like scared to even talk about it.

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01:13:09,720 --> 01:13:12,600
Speaker 15: Bills don't even come up for hearings in the committee's

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01:13:12,600 --> 01:13:15,479
Speaker 15: of jurisdiction. So I've been pushing to say, well, then

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01:13:15,560 --> 01:13:18,720
Speaker 15: just create a healthcare committee, because here's the reality is,

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Speaker 15: Obamacare didn't fix healthcare. It fixed a couple problems, like

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01:13:23,080 --> 01:13:26,639
Speaker 15: people that had pre existing conditions and had hard times enrolling,

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01:13:26,720 --> 01:13:30,160
Speaker 15: and adverse selection where you already get sick and you

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01:13:30,880 --> 01:13:36,679
Speaker 15: can't even get insurance. So things like that were better,

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01:13:36,720 --> 01:13:38,599
Speaker 15: but none of the Republican plans really wanted to get

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01:13:38,680 --> 01:13:41,599
Speaker 15: rid of that that were out there. But because of that,

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Speaker 15: Democrats have kind of claimed some ground on healthcare. It's

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Speaker 15: one policy area where they generally get feedback because they're

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Speaker 15: united behind a plan. Republicans haven't done the debate to

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Speaker 15: say we're united behind one plan. We've got dozens, frankly,

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01:13:58,880 --> 01:14:01,840
Speaker 15: that are just languishing in the hopper waiting to have

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01:14:01,880 --> 01:14:04,519
Speaker 15: a debate. So I think the Democrats are going to

1354
01:14:04,640 --> 01:14:08,880
Speaker 15: force a debate here. Because people love their doctor, they

1355
01:14:08,960 --> 01:14:12,120
Speaker 15: like their hospitals, they like the technology, but when the

1356
01:14:12,160 --> 01:14:15,840
Speaker 15: billing time comes, they're baffled. They're like, wait, wait, so

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01:14:15,880 --> 01:14:18,080
Speaker 15: my premiums are going up, you know, fifteen to twenty

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01:14:18,120 --> 01:14:21,400
Speaker 15: percent every year. My out of pockets crept up from

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01:14:21,400 --> 01:14:24,639
Speaker 15: four thousand to six thousand to now ten thousand. You're

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01:14:24,680 --> 01:14:27,320
Speaker 15: still denying claims. You're still saying this is out of network.

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Speaker 15: I was in the same building the whole time. How's

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01:14:29,560 --> 01:14:32,400
Speaker 15: it out of network? All these kinds of things about

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01:14:32,400 --> 01:14:36,320
Speaker 15: paying for health care are still terrible. And what Democrats

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01:14:36,360 --> 01:14:38,719
Speaker 15: are wanting to do is hang that entire problem around

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01:14:38,760 --> 01:14:42,400
Speaker 15: Republicans and if Republicans don't do anything about it and

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01:14:42,600 --> 01:14:44,519
Speaker 15: just try to avoid the problem, stick your head in

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01:14:44,560 --> 01:14:47,000
Speaker 15: the sand. Well it's gonna work.

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Speaker 5: Right.

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Speaker 15: So, like, I think the challenge for the Speaker, and

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Speaker 15: this is a meeting I was in with him this week,

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Speaker 15: is you're going to have to do something about healthcare?

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Speaker 15: Why not create a select committee? Why not go in

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01:14:56,680 --> 01:14:59,280
Speaker 15: ahead and roll out here are ways to address some

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01:14:59,360 --> 01:15:02,639
Speaker 15: of the problems, because that's what people want. They're dealing

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01:15:02,720 --> 01:15:05,360
Speaker 15: with this problem. And you know, not necessarily everybody. I

1376
01:15:05,360 --> 01:15:07,040
Speaker 15: mean a lot of the folks that work at Proctor

1377
01:15:07,080 --> 01:15:09,320
Speaker 15: and gamb or Kroger or something have great plans, they

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01:15:09,320 --> 01:15:11,680
Speaker 15: love them, and the company kind of eats a lot

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01:15:11,720 --> 01:15:14,479
Speaker 15: of that cost. But most of America doesn't work in

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Speaker 15: a place that has that kind of benefits. Most Americans

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01:15:16,760 --> 01:15:20,040
Speaker 15: get their insurance through work, and that is way better

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01:15:20,080 --> 01:15:23,960
Speaker 15: than Obamacare on balance, but it still has these kinds

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Speaker 15: of problems, and Congress isn't addressing them.

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Speaker 1: Well, Congressman David Sentem, isn't the elephant in the room

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Speaker 1: the fact that nobody wants to go back to pre

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Speaker 1: existing conditions. I mean, if you don't. The analogy I

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Speaker 1: draw all the time is you can't get fire insurance

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Speaker 1: for your home if your house is already on fire.

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Speaker 1: The incentive is to get it ahead of time, so

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Speaker 1: you're covered if the catastrophe happens. That was the incentive

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Speaker 1: behind pre existing conditions. Look, if you get sick and

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Speaker 1: you don't have medical insurance, you're going to be on

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01:15:51,040 --> 01:15:52,439
Speaker 1: the hook for that. They're not going to cover a

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01:15:52,479 --> 01:15:55,760
Speaker 1: pre existing condition. You can't actually account for what that

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01:15:55,880 --> 01:15:58,439
Speaker 1: cost is going to be across an entire population. And

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01:15:58,520 --> 01:16:02,160
Speaker 1: yet out the door went pre exclusions. Welcome to a

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01:16:02,240 --> 01:16:05,080
Speaker 1: flood of houses on fire that are now required to

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01:16:05,120 --> 01:16:08,080
Speaker 1: be covered by the insurance company or Obamacare is the

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01:16:08,120 --> 01:16:10,919
Speaker 1: case maybe, which is the American taxpayer. That's why premiums

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Speaker 1: have gone up.

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01:16:13,080 --> 01:16:15,360
Speaker 15: Yeah, that's a big factor. I mean, you know there

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01:16:15,360 --> 01:16:17,559
Speaker 15: are things like that, and you know there are tons

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01:16:17,600 --> 01:16:21,160
Speaker 15: of programs like that. In the federal government where you're

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01:16:21,240 --> 01:16:25,960
Speaker 15: creating incentives to do to wait dysfunctional bad things, and

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01:16:26,000 --> 01:16:28,639
Speaker 15: so the government says, well, let's create a government program

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01:16:28,680 --> 01:16:30,479
Speaker 15: for it. And for a lot of people that say,

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01:16:30,479 --> 01:16:33,679
Speaker 15: well we have free xyz. Now there's no free there's

1408
01:16:33,720 --> 01:16:37,720
Speaker 15: a chance transfer of who the payer is. And sometimes

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01:16:37,760 --> 01:16:40,599
Speaker 15: the reality is, oh, well we're going to soak the rich. Okay,

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01:16:40,720 --> 01:16:43,400
Speaker 15: Well that's briefs okay, and they are on balance paying

1411
01:16:43,880 --> 01:16:47,720
Speaker 15: most of the taxes. But the reality is they're not

1412
01:16:47,760 --> 01:16:50,679
Speaker 15: paying all the taxes. We have massive depth CITs every

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01:16:50,720 --> 01:16:53,760
Speaker 15: year and this causes inflation. People are like, well, gee,

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01:16:53,760 --> 01:16:56,040
Speaker 15: why is a five dollars foot long twelve dollars? Well,

1415
01:16:56,080 --> 01:16:58,400
Speaker 15: because the federal government spends seven trillion every year and

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01:16:58,479 --> 01:17:02,240
Speaker 15: only collects five trillion in revenue, and they keep subsidizing

1417
01:17:02,240 --> 01:17:08,040
Speaker 15: thing and the things they subsidize healthcare, housing, education, The

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01:17:08,120 --> 01:17:10,400
Speaker 15: rate of inflation there is way bigger than the rest

1419
01:17:10,439 --> 01:17:13,839
Speaker 15: of the economy. But okay, yeah, if you get the subsidy,

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01:17:13,880 --> 01:17:16,479
Speaker 15: it feels a little better. So that's kind of the race.

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01:17:16,520 --> 01:17:18,280
Speaker 15: Now it's like, well, we need more free stuff for

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01:17:18,360 --> 01:17:21,320
Speaker 15: more people. Well, it's because it's not free. So there's

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01:17:21,320 --> 01:17:23,920
Speaker 15: a cost and that's what's happening, and the inflation, in

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01:17:23,960 --> 01:17:26,920
Speaker 15: frankly is going to keep going because the free stuff

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01:17:26,960 --> 01:17:28,240
Speaker 15: for people is popular.

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Speaker 1: It is, indeed, and that's why once you start a

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01:17:31,439 --> 01:17:33,800
Speaker 1: government program, even if it has an expiration date, it

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01:17:33,840 --> 01:17:36,640
Speaker 1: tends to go on forever, much like the Bombacare subsidies.

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Speaker 1: But real quick here, one of the proposals over in

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01:17:38,960 --> 01:17:42,679
Speaker 1: the Senate is to provide individuals with between one thousand

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01:17:42,720 --> 01:17:44,920
Speaker 1: and fifteen hundred dollars to help pay for the premium,

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Speaker 1: put them in accounts like a health savings account. You

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Speaker 1: can use that money to pay for insurance premiums. That

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01:17:49,479 --> 01:17:52,080
Speaker 1: would create a market force because very few people are

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01:17:52,120 --> 01:17:55,320
Speaker 1: aware even that there is a whole world of private

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Speaker 1: insurance companies out there that provide medical insurance policies that

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01:17:58,840 --> 01:18:03,120
Speaker 1: can cost a lot less. Us this flexibility with the money,

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Speaker 1: if you're not bound to spend that HSA funding on Obamacare,

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01:18:07,560 --> 01:18:09,760
Speaker 1: you can go out into the open insurance market and

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01:18:09,760 --> 01:18:12,920
Speaker 1: find a much better plan of coverage for less money

1441
01:18:13,000 --> 01:18:15,120
Speaker 1: and use that money, and the market forces could then

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01:18:15,200 --> 01:18:16,360
Speaker 1: drive the cost down.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 15: I mean, this is one of the bills that Republicans

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01:18:20,439 --> 01:18:23,680
Speaker 15: have united behind for a long time, some not so

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01:18:23,800 --> 01:18:26,000
Speaker 15: much because of the subsidy part. But if you are

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01:18:26,040 --> 01:18:29,280
Speaker 15: going to spend federal dollars and subsidize something, it would

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01:18:29,320 --> 01:18:31,200
Speaker 15: make sense to send the money to the doctors or

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01:18:31,200 --> 01:18:34,000
Speaker 15: hospitals because they're the ones incurring the cost, and then

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Speaker 15: they wouldn't pass it on to consumers. Would be agreement there,

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01:18:38,680 --> 01:18:41,360
Speaker 15: or you would give it to the consumers. But the

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Speaker 15: worst idea of all would give it to the insurance company. Yes,

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01:18:45,080 --> 01:18:48,120
Speaker 15: because I mean and the evidence is in. It's not

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01:18:48,280 --> 01:18:50,920
Speaker 15: debatable whether the insurance companies have done a good job

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01:18:51,000 --> 01:18:53,639
Speaker 15: with the money that you give them. They've been terrible.

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01:18:54,040 --> 01:18:57,760
Speaker 15: So I think the dumbest play call possible would be

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01:18:57,800 --> 01:19:01,000
Speaker 15: to do the three year status quo a reform plan.

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01:19:02,360 --> 01:19:04,680
Speaker 15: But if you go out to the betting markets, I

1459
01:19:04,720 --> 01:19:09,240
Speaker 15: would say it's probably considered the more likely option. But look,

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01:19:09,439 --> 01:19:12,120
Speaker 15: Chuck Schumer has pushed for that in the Senate. He

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01:19:12,240 --> 01:19:15,800
Speaker 15: got Thune to agree to call the vote as part

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01:19:15,840 --> 01:19:18,200
Speaker 15: of opening up the government. I don't know whether it'll

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01:19:18,200 --> 01:19:20,880
Speaker 15: pass the Senate or not. The reality is it doesn't

1464
01:19:20,880 --> 01:19:22,960
Speaker 15: have the votes to pass in the House. Right the

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01:19:24,080 --> 01:19:26,400
Speaker 15: Speaker doesn't have to put any of this on the floor.

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Speaker 15: But that's what discharge petitions do. It takes the power

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01:19:29,520 --> 01:19:32,160
Speaker 15: away from the speaker. It gives the power really to

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01:19:32,200 --> 01:19:36,800
Speaker 15: the minority party. And then a handful of Republicans that

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01:19:36,840 --> 01:19:39,800
Speaker 15: would sign on with the discharge petition. And so that's

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Speaker 15: the concern. You got like six Republicans that are pretty

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01:19:43,320 --> 01:19:45,640
Speaker 15: public about wanting to do this, maybe a dozen or

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01:19:45,720 --> 01:19:49,679
Speaker 15: so they want to do this, and you know, if

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01:19:49,680 --> 01:19:52,160
Speaker 15: the alternative is that Republicans are going to do nothing,

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01:19:52,960 --> 01:19:55,040
Speaker 15: it's hard to peel those Republicans that feel like, well,

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01:19:55,040 --> 01:19:56,880
Speaker 15: we better do something on healthcare. I got a lot

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01:19:56,880 --> 01:19:59,960
Speaker 15: of constituents that are getting hit by this, and that's

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Speaker 15: I think part of the pressure is, like the speaker,

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01:20:02,560 --> 01:20:05,120
Speaker 15: hey man, you're gonna have to call a player. You're

1479
01:20:05,120 --> 01:20:07,800
Speaker 15: gonna have to do something. And if you give them

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01:20:07,840 --> 01:20:10,360
Speaker 15: a viable alternative to say, Okay, we are going to

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01:20:10,400 --> 01:20:13,559
Speaker 15: do something, let's talk about that, then I think we

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01:20:13,600 --> 01:20:15,920
Speaker 15: have a chance to do something smarter on healthcare that

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01:20:16,040 --> 01:20:19,679
Speaker 15: really will help solve problems for the whole population instead

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01:20:19,680 --> 01:20:23,840
Speaker 15: of this stupid play to keep pretending Obamacare works.

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01:20:23,520 --> 01:20:26,160
Speaker 1: Well, one might be dealing with fraud, waste, and abuse upfront.

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01:20:26,200 --> 01:20:28,519
Speaker 1: At least the Republican proposal over in the Senate that

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Speaker 1: provides this cash pain and to deal with premiums, also

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01:20:31,640 --> 01:20:35,639
Speaker 1: requires states of valor verify citizenship immigration status before coverage

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01:20:35,640 --> 01:20:40,760
Speaker 1: will even be issued. One small, but could be potentially

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01:20:40,800 --> 01:20:43,200
Speaker 1: effective measure in keeping fraud, waste and abuse out of

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Speaker 1: the system, not notably in a wealthy small population of Minnesota.

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Speaker 1: We'll continue with congress Warren Davidson find out out a

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Speaker 1: bombing smugglers after a brief break, beginning with Susette lows Acamp,

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Speaker 1: She's fantastic if for a mortgage related issue Friday Eve

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01:20:56,000 --> 01:20:58,080
Speaker 1: to you Congressman Warren Davidson on the phone talking about

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Speaker 1: some of the issues flowing around healthcare. The real quick here,

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Speaker 1: Congressman Davison, because I want to find out your position

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Speaker 1: on bombing the smugglers off the coast of Venezuela. Have

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Speaker 1: we got a moment of clarity or moment of awakening yet?

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01:21:08,840 --> 01:21:13,599
Speaker 1: In government? Can we please please pay focus primarily and

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01:21:13,760 --> 01:21:16,519
Speaker 1: upfront on ferreting out and following up on fraud, waste

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01:21:16,560 --> 01:21:19,040
Speaker 1: and abuse. Shouldn't it be job one making sure the

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01:21:19,080 --> 01:21:22,200
Speaker 1: American taxpayer dollar isn't being ripped off Because every damn

1504
01:21:22,240 --> 01:21:24,280
Speaker 1: program that the government comes out with turns out to

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01:21:24,280 --> 01:21:26,640
Speaker 1: be some great opportunity for someone to rip off the

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01:21:26,640 --> 01:21:29,920
Speaker 1: American taxpayer. Let's start with COVID funds. Let's look at

1507
01:21:29,920 --> 01:21:32,280
Speaker 1: the NGOs receiving money and not following through with what

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01:21:32,360 --> 01:21:35,040
Speaker 1: they promised it. And we could go on ad nauseum. Please,

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01:21:35,120 --> 01:21:37,000
Speaker 1: Dear God, can't we make that a focus and make

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01:21:37,000 --> 01:21:38,440
Speaker 1: it a bipartisan focus.

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01:21:39,920 --> 01:21:43,280
Speaker 15: Bipartisan I don't know about that, but for Republicans, yes,

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01:21:44,120 --> 01:21:47,400
Speaker 15: And this was the whole point of DOGE. The rumors

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01:21:47,400 --> 01:21:52,719
Speaker 15: of its demise are inaccurate. They're still cranking away at DOGE.

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01:21:53,479 --> 01:21:55,400
Speaker 15: It's going to have been normalized. It's kind of running

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01:21:55,400 --> 01:21:59,000
Speaker 15: within regular departments. It's officially called the US Digital Service,

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01:22:00,080 --> 01:22:03,160
Speaker 15: which is something Barack Obama created, right, So they're they're

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01:22:03,160 --> 01:22:05,800
Speaker 15: still doging out there, and that's part of how you're

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01:22:05,840 --> 01:22:09,720
Speaker 15: finding some of these problems where you know Medicaid, they're

1519
01:22:09,800 --> 01:22:13,240
Speaker 15: like doing tests and frankly, the Government Accountability Office is

1520
01:22:13,240 --> 01:22:17,360
Speaker 15: an ongoing operation like that where they provide this kind

1521
01:22:17,360 --> 01:22:20,400
Speaker 15: of oversight, they are exposing it. The question is what

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01:22:20,439 --> 01:22:22,280
Speaker 15: are you doing about it? And a lot of this

1523
01:22:22,400 --> 01:22:24,040
Speaker 15: comes to states, and I'll give a shout out to

1524
01:22:24,240 --> 01:22:27,800
Speaker 15: you know, our auditor, you know, done very good. Keith

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01:22:27,840 --> 01:22:29,680
Speaker 15: Favors rooted out a lot of this when he was

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01:22:29,760 --> 01:22:33,640
Speaker 15: auditor in Ohio. But some states, when it comes to

1527
01:22:33,920 --> 01:22:37,040
Speaker 15: you know, welfare fraud, say food stamps, they don't really

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01:22:37,080 --> 01:22:39,479
Speaker 15: have an incentive structurally to get rid of it. That's

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01:22:39,479 --> 01:22:43,160
Speaker 15: why states like California are like, you know, giving it

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01:22:43,200 --> 01:22:46,160
Speaker 15: to illegals, because all this federal money comes into the

1531
01:22:46,200 --> 01:22:49,439
Speaker 15: state and it gets spent in the local economy, so

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01:22:49,479 --> 01:22:51,439
Speaker 15: they don't even really want to turn it off. They're

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01:22:51,479 --> 01:22:54,160
Speaker 15: wanting the cash to flow, and they want it to

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01:22:54,200 --> 01:22:57,519
Speaker 15: flow even bigger. They want more checks from DC there.

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01:22:57,560 --> 01:23:00,599
Speaker 15: So it's essentially another way for Californi you to steal

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01:23:00,640 --> 01:23:01,400
Speaker 15: money from Ohio.

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Speaker 1: Amen, Congressman David, send your thoughts on blowing up boats

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01:23:04,360 --> 01:23:07,559
Speaker 1: off the coast of Venezuela. I had massy on yesterday,

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01:23:07,680 --> 01:23:10,000
Speaker 1: Congressom Mass Judge and Poltanoho and Polton has been on

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01:23:10,040 --> 01:23:11,960
Speaker 1: a tear on this one of late. He believes it

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01:23:12,000 --> 01:23:14,439
Speaker 1: to be unconstitutional. We don't have an authorization for you

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01:23:14,479 --> 01:23:17,479
Speaker 1: some military force. There is no declaration of war. If

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01:23:17,479 --> 01:23:19,560
Speaker 1: this was a country that could defend itself, if it

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01:23:19,600 --> 01:23:21,479
Speaker 1: had nukes, I don't think this will be happening. But

1545
01:23:21,640 --> 01:23:25,479
Speaker 1: you know, no sympathy for Venezuela. But we can pick

1546
01:23:25,520 --> 01:23:28,599
Speaker 1: on someone with no military and they are indeed sending

1547
01:23:28,680 --> 01:23:31,519
Speaker 1: drugs to our country. But can we definitively say the

1548
01:23:31,520 --> 01:23:33,559
Speaker 1: boat that was floating off the coast fifteen hundred miles

1549
01:23:33,560 --> 01:23:36,040
Speaker 1: away was coming here? Did they represent an imminent threat?

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01:23:36,080 --> 01:23:37,640
Speaker 1: What's your take on all this, Congressman.

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01:23:38,880 --> 01:23:41,960
Speaker 15: Well, look, generally I agree with all that cast of characters.

1552
01:23:42,000 --> 01:23:44,800
Speaker 15: I do think these are legitimate targets. I do think

1553
01:23:44,840 --> 01:23:48,719
Speaker 15: they're operating as part of the enemies of our country.

1554
01:23:48,800 --> 01:23:52,160
Speaker 15: Whether they're terrorists or not, they're clearly enemies of our country,

1555
01:23:52,200 --> 01:23:56,000
Speaker 15: and their activities are clearly killing Americans. People aren't intentionally

1556
01:23:56,040 --> 01:24:00,920
Speaker 15: taking Xanax's laced with Sentinel in dying right. My friend's daughter,

1557
01:24:01,000 --> 01:24:03,800
Speaker 15: did you know, not smart to take his annex at

1558
01:24:03,800 --> 01:24:05,800
Speaker 15: a party. But it's not supposed to kill you, right,

1559
01:24:05,920 --> 01:24:08,439
Speaker 15: And that's the thing. You've got tens of thousands of

1560
01:24:08,479 --> 01:24:11,439
Speaker 15: Americans dying from this. You need to take out the

1561
01:24:11,840 --> 01:24:16,000
Speaker 15: organizations that are doing it, and these boats. Frankly, when

1562
01:24:16,040 --> 01:24:19,439
Speaker 15: it comes to targeting, these aren't like Venezuela and flagged boats.

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01:24:19,439 --> 01:24:22,479
Speaker 15: So this isn't an act of war against Venezuela. They're

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01:24:22,560 --> 01:24:26,040
Speaker 15: essentially pirates. They're running unflagged. They want to go undetected,

1565
01:24:26,479 --> 01:24:29,280
Speaker 15: and they want to get the drugs out of you know,

1566
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Speaker 15: Central South America into the United States market, which is big.

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01:24:34,840 --> 01:24:36,880
Speaker 15: I mean, there's a lot of demand from drugs. It's

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01:24:36,880 --> 01:24:39,600
Speaker 15: a fair point that's part of the problem, but that

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01:24:39,640 --> 01:24:43,559
Speaker 15: doesn't mean it's okay. So I think they're legitimate targets.

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01:24:43,600 --> 01:24:45,080
Speaker 15: I do agree that if you want to do a

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01:24:45,120 --> 01:24:50,240
Speaker 15: regime change war in Venezuela with traditional military forces, that

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01:24:50,280 --> 01:24:53,720
Speaker 15: would require a declaration of war. But there are a

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01:24:53,760 --> 01:24:55,679
Speaker 15: lot of reasons why you would want to go to Venezuela.

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01:24:55,720 --> 01:24:58,200
Speaker 15: People say, oh, it's about the oil. It's really a

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01:24:58,240 --> 01:25:02,240
Speaker 15: big nexus for the whole operation. So with the cover

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01:25:02,360 --> 01:25:04,919
Speaker 15: of a nation state, you can do the money laundering easier,

1577
01:25:05,280 --> 01:25:08,120
Speaker 15: and when you've got oil flowing, you can attach laundered

1578
01:25:08,160 --> 01:25:10,880
Speaker 15: money to that transaction. And a lot of this is

1579
01:25:10,920 --> 01:25:13,400
Speaker 15: flowing to China, just like the fentanyl's coming from China.

1580
01:25:14,479 --> 01:25:16,439
Speaker 15: You know, it used to be that to launder money,

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01:25:16,479 --> 01:25:19,080
Speaker 15: you know, it would cost the cartels ten to twenty percent,

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01:25:19,960 --> 01:25:22,080
Speaker 15: so they had to say a million dollar drug sale,

1583
01:25:22,080 --> 01:25:25,479
Speaker 15: they would get eight hundred thousand, and you know, a

1584
01:25:25,479 --> 01:25:27,599
Speaker 15: couple hundred thousand would go to the guys that launder

1585
01:25:27,680 --> 01:25:30,680
Speaker 15: the money. China's eating that cost because there's so much

1586
01:25:30,720 --> 01:25:34,720
Speaker 15: demand for dollars out of Asia that they're working in

1587
01:25:34,800 --> 01:25:37,839
Speaker 15: operation to launder the money there. So these are things

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01:25:38,160 --> 01:25:40,040
Speaker 15: and I think, you know, look the economists, which I

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01:25:40,040 --> 01:25:43,760
Speaker 15: wouldn't count on and being a reliable source, you know,

1590
01:25:43,800 --> 01:25:45,920
Speaker 15: for all kinds of information, but they had a good

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01:25:45,920 --> 01:25:49,760
Speaker 15: write up on this recently. It's you know, so this

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01:25:49,800 --> 01:25:51,559
Speaker 15: is the kind of thing that's going on. Does that

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01:25:51,560 --> 01:25:54,120
Speaker 15: mean we should go to war with Venezuela. I don't know,

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01:25:54,200 --> 01:25:57,160
Speaker 15: but I do think we should take we shouldn't tolerate

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01:25:57,200 --> 01:25:58,559
Speaker 15: this to continue happening.

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01:25:58,720 --> 01:26:02,160
Speaker 1: Couldn't it work so into an authorization used the military force,

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01:26:02,200 --> 01:26:04,040
Speaker 1: which would set forth the parameters like the back of

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01:26:04,040 --> 01:26:05,560
Speaker 1: the one back from two thousand and one, which a

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01:26:05,600 --> 01:26:08,960
Speaker 1: lot of us to go after terrorists, Islamic terrorists in

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01:26:09,000 --> 01:26:11,439
Speaker 1: the aftermath of nine to eleven. I mean, isn't that

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01:26:11,640 --> 01:26:15,360
Speaker 1: compressional stamp of approval with parameters the appropriate thing to

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01:26:15,400 --> 01:26:15,920
Speaker 1: work under.

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01:26:17,040 --> 01:26:18,519
Speaker 15: I think it's a great way to do it. I

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01:26:18,560 --> 01:26:21,400
Speaker 15: have such a bill whether I've worked on for years. Rightly,

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01:26:22,040 --> 01:26:24,120
Speaker 15: I've wanted to go after the cartels in this way

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01:26:24,160 --> 01:26:26,759
Speaker 15: for a long time. They should be treated as enemies

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01:26:26,800 --> 01:26:30,160
Speaker 15: of our country. And I've got the legislation to do it.

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01:26:31,080 --> 01:26:34,400
Speaker 15: But you know, the administration isn't interested in the legislation.

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01:26:34,520 --> 01:26:37,639
Speaker 15: They say, we have the executive authority, we don't really

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01:26:37,720 --> 01:26:40,240
Speaker 15: want to have the debate. Yeah, and I think, look,

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01:26:40,280 --> 01:26:43,400
Speaker 15: the reality is you've got colleagues who don't believe that

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01:26:43,520 --> 01:26:45,360
Speaker 15: they should do it in the first place. So I

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01:26:45,360 --> 01:26:47,200
Speaker 15: think they're right. They may not be able to pass.

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01:26:47,360 --> 01:26:49,800
Speaker 15: There are Democrats who generally had supported but if it

1615
01:26:49,840 --> 01:26:53,240
Speaker 15: allowed announce the discretion for Trump, they're like, oh, I can't,

1616
01:26:53,240 --> 01:26:54,200
Speaker 15: I can't support that.

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01:26:56,479 --> 01:26:57,839
Speaker 1: Trump and syndrome.

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01:26:59,120 --> 01:27:02,599
Speaker 15: It's in play every time. I think, look, they're finally

1619
01:27:02,600 --> 01:27:04,559
Speaker 15: going after these guys, and I think that needs to

1620
01:27:04,600 --> 01:27:05,080
Speaker 15: be done.

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01:27:05,280 --> 01:27:07,519
Speaker 1: Got some more and Davidson. Appreciate your thoughts and comments.

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01:27:07,560 --> 01:27:09,760
Speaker 1: As always, I look forward to having another conversation with you,

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01:27:09,800 --> 01:27:12,439
Speaker 1: hopefully next Thursday, and between now and then, best of

1624
01:27:12,439 --> 01:27:14,519
Speaker 1: health you and your loved ones, and we'll talk soon.

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01:27:15,520 --> 01:27:17,720
Speaker 15: Thanks Brian gob less Shore and all your listeners.

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01:27:17,360 --> 01:27:19,040
Speaker 1: And you, sir, Thank you, seven twenty eight right now

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01:27:19,080 --> 01:27:21,519
Speaker 1: fort five KR City Talks CD Talk Station. Very happy

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01:27:21,760 --> 01:27:24,000
Speaker 1: Friday Eve to you. Brian Thomas, happy to welcome back

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01:27:24,000 --> 01:27:27,000
Speaker 1: to the fifty five CARC Morning Show former FOP President

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01:27:27,040 --> 01:27:29,519
Speaker 1: Dan Hills. Dan Hills, Welcome to the morning show. It's

1631
01:27:29,520 --> 01:27:32,040
Speaker 1: great to have you on, Brian.

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01:27:32,080 --> 01:27:34,760
Speaker 2: It's always great to be on your show. And I

1633
01:27:35,160 --> 01:27:37,640
Speaker 2: hear I might even have an opportunity to do a

1634
01:27:37,680 --> 01:27:43,240
Speaker 2: little little debate with my dear friend and an awesome attorney,

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01:27:43,960 --> 01:27:44,799
Speaker 2: Brian Thomas.

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01:27:44,840 --> 01:27:45,920
Speaker 1: Great, let's do.

1637
01:27:45,960 --> 01:27:49,479
Speaker 2: That about this. Let's do this about this settlement.

1638
01:27:49,600 --> 01:27:51,840
Speaker 1: This settlement eight point one million dollars improved by since

1639
01:27:51,840 --> 01:27:54,679
Speaker 1: an council yesterday, sixty five thousand covered by the county,

1640
01:27:54,760 --> 01:27:57,719
Speaker 1: the balance covered by the city tax payers, all springing

1641
01:27:57,720 --> 01:27:59,920
Speaker 1: from you. Remember Brionna Taylor and George Floyd. There were

1642
01:28:00,000 --> 01:28:02,840
Speaker 1: couple of incidents in the aftermath of their killings, of course,

1643
01:28:03,120 --> 01:28:07,240
Speaker 1: protests in downtown Cincinnatio as well as elsewhere. Protest devolving

1644
01:28:07,320 --> 01:28:11,200
Speaker 1: into criminal activity, which resulted in John Cranley imposing a curfew,

1645
01:28:12,640 --> 01:28:16,280
Speaker 1: and pursuant to the curfew, we had people arrested for

1646
01:28:16,360 --> 01:28:18,679
Speaker 1: violating the curfew. Those people heard it up and placed

1647
01:28:18,720 --> 01:28:20,559
Speaker 1: in the Hemlin kind of justice center, what they call

1648
01:28:20,680 --> 01:28:25,880
Speaker 1: Sally's Port. Those folks sued, and the cities decided to settle.

1649
01:28:26,000 --> 01:28:28,920
Speaker 1: This springs from I believe a civil rights violation. The

1650
01:28:28,960 --> 01:28:31,479
Speaker 1: free the First Amendment allows to you know, for us

1651
01:28:31,520 --> 01:28:36,840
Speaker 1: to gather together and speak, and I'm guessing that's why

1652
01:28:36,920 --> 01:28:39,960
Speaker 1: they've resolved this. Did they not have an exception to

1653
01:28:40,000 --> 01:28:43,280
Speaker 1: the curfew for people who are exercising the right to

1654
01:28:43,320 --> 01:28:43,960
Speaker 1: free assembly?

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01:28:44,040 --> 01:28:49,000
Speaker 2: Dan Hills, Well, you know, I think there was plenty

1656
01:28:49,000 --> 01:28:52,400
Speaker 2: of opportunity for people to have free assembly and protest.

1657
01:28:52,960 --> 01:28:55,760
Speaker 2: What happened, and you just said it was that the

1658
01:28:55,880 --> 01:29:00,200
Speaker 2: legal behavior that was happening became a safety issue, you

1659
01:29:00,320 --> 01:29:03,000
Speaker 2: not only for the police, but for the community. And

1660
01:29:03,040 --> 01:29:06,280
Speaker 2: therefore I thought John Cranley's actions were just. And this

1661
01:29:06,360 --> 01:29:09,799
Speaker 2: is where my you know, my confusion lives was Scottie Johnson.

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01:29:09,840 --> 01:29:12,719
Speaker 2: And maybe you're maybe not you as well that thinking

1663
01:29:12,720 --> 01:29:16,240
Speaker 2: that this settlement is just. I think that I think

1664
01:29:16,240 --> 01:29:18,880
Speaker 2: the settlement, the settlement is a rip off of the taxpayers.

1665
01:29:19,240 --> 01:29:23,360
Speaker 2: And I think at some point, you know, law departments

1666
01:29:23,600 --> 01:29:26,439
Speaker 2: like the City of Cincinnati needs to draw the line.

1667
01:29:27,640 --> 01:29:30,679
Speaker 2: These folks knew the rules as they were being put

1668
01:29:30,680 --> 01:29:33,840
Speaker 2: out there that there was there was some you know,

1669
01:29:34,160 --> 01:29:38,200
Speaker 2: uh big boy and big girl games going on, and uh,

1670
01:29:39,240 --> 01:29:41,880
Speaker 2: it was within the mayor's rights and it was within

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01:29:42,040 --> 01:29:45,760
Speaker 2: the police department's duties to enforce this this curfew to

1672
01:29:45,920 --> 01:29:50,320
Speaker 2: help me keep the community safe. And so, uh, you know,

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01:29:50,520 --> 01:29:52,559
Speaker 2: I did a little break down with the numbers. It

1674
01:29:52,640 --> 01:29:54,559
Speaker 2: was actually eight million, one hundred and forty three thousand

1675
01:29:54,600 --> 01:29:58,040
Speaker 2: once you include that mass of sixty five thousand dollars

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01:29:58,080 --> 01:30:00,599
Speaker 2: from the county kicking in. I don't know what that's

1677
01:30:00,600 --> 01:30:03,799
Speaker 2: all about. And you deducted the attorneys fees two million

1678
01:30:03,880 --> 01:30:09,040
Speaker 2: dollars I think to two million and thirty five thousand.

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01:30:09,280 --> 01:30:12,200
Speaker 2: So there's where a lot of the motivation comes from.

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01:30:12,280 --> 01:30:15,840
Speaker 2: You have attorneys willing, yeah, all these vass's and if

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01:30:16,160 --> 01:30:18,840
Speaker 2: if this city in the law department would really effectively

1682
01:30:18,880 --> 01:30:20,479
Speaker 2: battle some of these things, I don't know if these

1683
01:30:20,479 --> 01:30:24,360
Speaker 2: folks could come up, you know, with attorneys that are

1684
01:30:24,400 --> 01:30:27,160
Speaker 2: willing to do this. So that leaves six million, one

1685
01:30:27,240 --> 01:30:29,640
Speaker 2: hundred and eight thousand dollars divided by four hundred and

1686
01:30:29,640 --> 01:30:32,760
Speaker 2: seventy nine people. And this is where I actually have

1687
01:30:32,800 --> 01:30:35,760
Speaker 2: to ask you a question, Brian. The twelve seven hundred

1688
01:30:35,760 --> 01:30:38,120
Speaker 2: and fifty one dollars and I rounded up the fifty

1689
01:30:38,200 --> 01:30:41,960
Speaker 2: seven cents. Is there is there taxes taken out of

1690
01:30:42,000 --> 01:30:43,960
Speaker 2: a settlement like that for these individuals?

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01:30:43,960 --> 01:30:44,760
Speaker 1: I do not believe so.

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01:30:46,080 --> 01:30:47,640
Speaker 2: Okay, I didn't think so either, But I want to

1693
01:30:47,680 --> 01:30:48,439
Speaker 2: ask you for sure.

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01:30:49,080 --> 01:30:51,800
Speaker 1: It's supposed to be an award for damages. It's an

1695
01:30:51,840 --> 01:30:55,200
Speaker 1: award for damages. You know that. I guess the process

1696
01:30:55,280 --> 01:30:58,720
Speaker 1: is I see it. You had the protest going on

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01:30:58,840 --> 01:31:02,960
Speaker 1: which devolved into illegal behavior, you know, property damage, will

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01:31:03,000 --> 01:31:04,840
Speaker 1: you know, throwing bottles of people, whatever the case may be.

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01:31:05,280 --> 01:31:09,559
Speaker 1: Then Cranley comes in and says ten pm curfew, ten

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01:31:09,600 --> 01:31:13,040
Speaker 1: pm curfew is violated. Not in my understanding is that

1701
01:31:13,120 --> 01:31:16,479
Speaker 1: the folks were arrested for a curfew violation, not because

1702
01:31:16,520 --> 01:31:19,280
Speaker 1: they engaged in criminal activity. You could, of course, you know,

1703
01:31:19,320 --> 01:31:20,960
Speaker 1: if you threw a bottle and broke a window, arrest

1704
01:31:21,040 --> 01:31:23,080
Speaker 1: them for property damage, that'd be fine and no one

1705
01:31:23,080 --> 01:31:27,600
Speaker 1: would settle that. But merely because they were out congregating

1706
01:31:27,680 --> 01:31:31,639
Speaker 1: and protesting, speaking their voices about Breonna Taylor and George Floyd,

1707
01:31:32,000 --> 01:31:35,760
Speaker 1: they were gathered up and arrested for a curfew violation. Now,

1708
01:31:35,800 --> 01:31:38,599
Speaker 1: I don't know that Cranley has the right to trump

1709
01:31:38,640 --> 01:31:43,520
Speaker 1: the First Amendment right to freedom of assembly. He can't

1710
01:31:43,680 --> 01:31:46,640
Speaker 1: do that. And that's why the curfew that he that

1711
01:31:46,840 --> 01:31:50,400
Speaker 1: was issued by the mayor over the summer of evolving

1712
01:31:50,400 --> 01:31:53,960
Speaker 1: the teens gathering in Government Square, that contained an exception

1713
01:31:54,200 --> 01:31:58,280
Speaker 1: for First Amendment gatherings. So maybe that's what was absent

1714
01:31:58,320 --> 01:32:01,080
Speaker 1: from the Cranley proposal. You can't arrest me for being

1715
01:32:01,120 --> 01:32:03,640
Speaker 1: out past ten pm if I am engaging in a

1716
01:32:03,800 --> 01:32:07,320
Speaker 1: you know, a political protest. That's I think the point

1717
01:32:07,360 --> 01:32:08,720
Speaker 1: of the plaintiffs.

1718
01:32:09,720 --> 01:32:13,519
Speaker 2: Well, I think the I think the motivation for mister

1719
01:32:13,560 --> 01:32:17,080
Speaker 2: Cranley and then the police was that there were criminal

1720
01:32:17,120 --> 01:32:20,400
Speaker 2: activity that was spawning from these political protests, and there

1721
01:32:20,479 --> 01:32:23,799
Speaker 2: was there was plenty of time and room for political protests.

1722
01:32:23,920 --> 01:32:28,040
Speaker 2: Nobody was stopping political protests. We were picking the time

1723
01:32:28,320 --> 01:32:31,360
Speaker 2: and the and the groups where there was also criminal

1724
01:32:31,400 --> 01:32:34,040
Speaker 2: activity coming out of And Brian, you have to realize this.

1725
01:32:34,479 --> 01:32:36,400
Speaker 2: You can't always sit there and pick out in a

1726
01:32:36,479 --> 01:32:38,799
Speaker 2: large group, who is it that's just thrown a bottle

1727
01:32:38,840 --> 01:32:42,479
Speaker 2: of urine at the cops. When a group has people

1728
01:32:42,560 --> 01:32:47,120
Speaker 2: starting to act in that fashion, and citizens are risk

1729
01:32:47,200 --> 01:32:49,680
Speaker 2: and cops are at risk. At some point you have

1730
01:32:49,800 --> 01:32:53,400
Speaker 2: to take control of the situation. And it's not to

1731
01:32:53,439 --> 01:32:57,560
Speaker 2: squaw anybody's first amendments, right, it's it's it's for the

1732
01:32:58,120 --> 01:33:00,720
Speaker 2: safety of the citizens. Look, I think a lot of

1733
01:33:00,760 --> 01:33:03,960
Speaker 2: these people, even before their twelve thousand dollars, had checked

1734
01:33:03,960 --> 01:33:05,799
Speaker 2: stubs from George Soros in our pocket.

1735
01:33:06,160 --> 01:33:08,160
Speaker 1: Moreld Well, there.

1736
01:33:08,080 --> 01:33:11,400
Speaker 2: Are professional protesters in these groups, and they know what

1737
01:33:11,400 --> 01:33:13,200
Speaker 2: they're doing. And part of it they know what they're

1738
01:33:13,200 --> 01:33:15,160
Speaker 2: doing is they know that cities like the City of

1739
01:33:15,240 --> 01:33:17,280
Speaker 2: Cincinnati are going to settle.

1740
01:33:17,520 --> 01:33:20,840
Speaker 1: Roll over. Hold on, we'll continue. We're not done with this,

1741
01:33:20,920 --> 01:33:22,920
Speaker 1: and since way over time in this segment, I don't

1742
01:33:22,920 --> 01:33:24,720
Speaker 1: want to get the Harry eyeball from Joe, So hold

1743
01:33:24,760 --> 01:33:26,479
Speaker 1: on a second. We'll continue with Dan Hills on this

1744
01:33:26,720 --> 01:33:28,920
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1748
01:33:40,200 --> 01:33:43,280
Speaker 1: President Dan Hills. He was around back in twenty twenty

1749
01:33:43,360 --> 01:33:45,840
Speaker 1: when we had the May twenty ninth, riots and protest

1750
01:33:45,920 --> 01:33:48,640
Speaker 1: resolving into criminal activity, resulting in the issuance of a

1751
01:33:48,680 --> 01:33:51,720
Speaker 1: curfew by John Cranley ten PM curfew resulting in a

1752
01:33:51,760 --> 01:33:54,760
Speaker 1: bunch of people getting arrested for curfew violations real quick.

1753
01:33:54,800 --> 01:33:57,920
Speaker 1: Since a couple of people instant messaged me about the

1754
01:33:58,240 --> 01:34:01,120
Speaker 1: whole idea of the paid protesters, I will acknowledge and

1755
01:34:01,200 --> 01:34:03,920
Speaker 1: agree without knowing specifically that there were probably a lot

1756
01:34:03,920 --> 01:34:06,479
Speaker 1: of them there. We do have the freedom to travel

1757
01:34:06,479 --> 01:34:09,160
Speaker 1: in this country, and I think the fact that they

1758
01:34:09,200 --> 01:34:10,960
Speaker 1: had to pay people to show up at any given

1759
01:34:11,000 --> 01:34:14,200
Speaker 1: protest is an illustration of the failure. Their message isn't

1760
01:34:14,200 --> 01:34:16,080
Speaker 1: what drew the people there. It's the fact that they

1761
01:34:16,120 --> 01:34:20,640
Speaker 1: got a check. But that's lawful behavior too, so you

1762
01:34:20,760 --> 01:34:24,120
Speaker 1: got to acknowledge that. So they're all there milling around,

1763
01:34:25,120 --> 01:34:27,960
Speaker 1: Can you arrest them for milling around? Or do we

1764
01:34:28,080 --> 01:34:30,080
Speaker 1: have to As you point out how difficult it is

1765
01:34:30,120 --> 01:34:31,960
Speaker 1: to figure out which is the guy who threw the

1766
01:34:31,960 --> 01:34:34,840
Speaker 1: bottle of urine, But that's the person that should be

1767
01:34:34,920 --> 01:34:39,599
Speaker 1: charged with a crime. Arresting everyone for violating the curfew,

1768
01:34:39,640 --> 01:34:42,000
Speaker 1: I think that's where you run a foul. But to

1769
01:34:42,040 --> 01:34:45,400
Speaker 1: your point, eight point one million dollars divided by the

1770
01:34:45,479 --> 01:34:49,360
Speaker 1: multitudes twelve thousand dollars roughly per person. I guess the

1771
01:34:49,439 --> 01:34:51,960
Speaker 1: reason you settle, And I'm not happy about this Dan

1772
01:34:52,040 --> 01:34:56,240
Speaker 1: in any way, shape or form. But how much money

1773
01:34:56,320 --> 01:34:58,519
Speaker 1: might they have gotten if a jury decided the award.

1774
01:34:58,720 --> 01:35:00,920
Speaker 1: I think that's why they ended up. Now, maybe the

1775
01:35:01,000 --> 01:35:02,200
Speaker 1: mount was a capitulation.

1776
01:35:02,240 --> 01:35:05,599
Speaker 2: That's what they're that's what they're reporting why they settled.

1777
01:35:05,720 --> 01:35:09,479
Speaker 1: Well, for a long time, a lot of my clients

1778
01:35:09,479 --> 01:35:12,920
Speaker 1: agreed to settle over their best belief that they didn't

1779
01:35:13,000 --> 01:35:16,679
Speaker 1: do anything wrong because the potential downside outweighed the check

1780
01:35:16,760 --> 01:35:17,679
Speaker 1: they had to write.

1781
01:35:19,680 --> 01:35:22,960
Speaker 2: Look, I'm not an attorney or a jurist or anything

1782
01:35:23,040 --> 01:35:27,040
Speaker 2: myself as as as we debate this, I'm just an eldergred.

1783
01:35:27,479 --> 01:35:31,400
Speaker 2: But in my mind, a society has to be able

1784
01:35:31,479 --> 01:35:36,479
Speaker 2: to institute emergency orders such as Cranley did. I think

1785
01:35:36,520 --> 01:35:38,800
Speaker 2: the police department has to be able to tell a

1786
01:35:38,840 --> 01:35:42,439
Speaker 2: crowd to dispersed when there's legal, illegal activity coming out

1787
01:35:42,439 --> 01:35:44,799
Speaker 2: of that crowd. Yeah, when the community is had danger

1788
01:35:44,800 --> 01:35:46,920
Speaker 2: and the cops are at danger, and the only way

1789
01:35:46,960 --> 01:35:50,800
Speaker 2: to enforce that in the end is an arrest. So

1790
01:35:51,400 --> 01:35:54,479
Speaker 2: I was down there, I saw all this stuff at

1791
01:35:54,600 --> 01:35:59,320
Speaker 2: taking place, I thought, just as Scotty Johnson and the

1792
01:35:59,400 --> 01:36:01,800
Speaker 2: Vice mayor, all these people who are voting on this

1793
01:36:02,160 --> 01:36:05,240
Speaker 2: settlement are saying that the cops did everything right. I mean,

1794
01:36:05,280 --> 01:36:08,920
Speaker 2: I think some of the greatest suffering apparently came from

1795
01:36:08,960 --> 01:36:10,880
Speaker 2: when they already were handed off to the county. You

1796
01:36:11,000 --> 01:36:13,639
Speaker 2: only asked to basically five thousand dollars because they had

1797
01:36:13,640 --> 01:36:15,679
Speaker 2: to wait a long long time and cramp up before

1798
01:36:15,720 --> 01:36:18,720
Speaker 2: they could go potty while they were sitting in the sallyport.

1799
01:36:18,920 --> 01:36:20,920
Speaker 2: But if I knew I was getting twelve thousand dollars

1800
01:36:20,960 --> 01:36:24,400
Speaker 2: cash at the end of it, and you know me

1801
01:36:24,439 --> 01:36:26,799
Speaker 2: and Joe wanted to go protest to weather or something

1802
01:36:26,880 --> 01:36:28,840
Speaker 2: like that, I'd be filling out my bottles of yurine

1803
01:36:28,920 --> 01:36:32,439
Speaker 2: right now, because that's quite the payday for him to

1804
01:36:32,439 --> 01:36:34,680
Speaker 2: sit around in May. Now. I don't think I want

1805
01:36:34,680 --> 01:36:38,280
Speaker 2: to sit in a sallyport in December, especially not this December.

1806
01:36:38,360 --> 01:36:42,360
Speaker 2: But ifting I'm sitting down there, I don't know. I

1807
01:36:42,439 --> 01:36:45,120
Speaker 2: believe in the end that this is way too much

1808
01:36:45,200 --> 01:36:49,760
Speaker 2: money for way too little of any type of constitutional

1809
01:36:49,920 --> 01:36:52,960
Speaker 2: violation by the state in this case, which is the

1810
01:36:52,960 --> 01:36:55,800
Speaker 2: City of Cincinnati in Hamilton County. They were doing what

1811
01:36:55,920 --> 01:36:59,679
Speaker 2: was necessary at the time. John Cranley made the difference

1812
01:36:59,680 --> 01:37:03,920
Speaker 2: between what happened in Cincinnati and there I go. When

1813
01:37:03,960 --> 01:37:06,640
Speaker 2: I'm preparing my legal brief, one of the things of

1814
01:37:06,720 --> 01:37:09,799
Speaker 2: evidence I'm going to bring Brian, is what was happening

1815
01:37:09,840 --> 01:37:13,160
Speaker 2: in other cities. There are cities were literally burning down,

1816
01:37:13,520 --> 01:37:15,800
Speaker 2: and the City of Cincinnati did it because we got

1817
01:37:15,840 --> 01:37:21,160
Speaker 2: pro proactive in stopping these crowds and stuff. It's just

1818
01:37:21,280 --> 01:37:24,000
Speaker 2: not as easy as you and I would like it

1819
01:37:24,000 --> 01:37:26,519
Speaker 2: to be. We'd like to be able to reach in

1820
01:37:26,600 --> 01:37:28,960
Speaker 2: with a crane and pick up the pick up the

1821
01:37:29,479 --> 01:37:32,040
Speaker 2: worst actors in a crowd like that, but it doesn't

1822
01:37:32,120 --> 01:37:34,200
Speaker 2: work that way. When you're dealing with full large crowds

1823
01:37:34,240 --> 01:37:36,839
Speaker 2: and at some point you have to make the decision

1824
01:37:36,880 --> 01:37:39,280
Speaker 2: to disperse the crowd, and the crowd doesn't disperse, you

1825
01:37:39,280 --> 01:37:40,160
Speaker 2: have to make a rest.

1826
01:37:40,320 --> 01:37:41,479
Speaker 1: Okay, And I get all that.

1827
01:37:41,600 --> 01:37:43,000
Speaker 2: I believe what we did was just.

1828
01:37:43,280 --> 01:37:46,280
Speaker 1: You did what you did was appropriate within the the

1829
01:37:46,400 --> 01:37:48,879
Speaker 1: orders that you had and the issuance of what everyone

1830
01:37:48,920 --> 01:37:52,719
Speaker 1: thought was a lawful curfew. You followed what the mayor said.

1831
01:37:52,760 --> 01:37:56,360
Speaker 1: He instituted the curfew that comes with the possibility of

1832
01:37:56,439 --> 01:37:58,679
Speaker 1: arrest if you violated. There's I don't think anyone's pointing

1833
01:37:58,720 --> 01:38:01,760
Speaker 1: a finger at you specifically. I think it's the underlying

1834
01:38:02,760 --> 01:38:07,400
Speaker 1: curfew that is being challenged. And I don't for a minute.

1835
01:38:07,160 --> 01:38:09,880
Speaker 2: Proper do you think or that that's the part I

1836
01:38:09,880 --> 01:38:13,040
Speaker 2: don't understand. Was it worded improperly? I think because it

1837
01:38:13,080 --> 01:38:16,880
Speaker 2: was well, it was necessary to stop the city from

1838
01:38:16,960 --> 01:38:19,000
Speaker 2: ending up like the other places. We didn't want to

1839
01:38:19,040 --> 01:38:22,000
Speaker 2: look like Minneapolis. We didn't want to be burning to

1840
01:38:21,439 --> 01:38:26,439
Speaker 2: the ground. And and you know, all all hail to

1841
01:38:26,720 --> 01:38:30,200
Speaker 2: a Democratic leader at the time, John Cranley, who who

1842
01:38:30,240 --> 01:38:32,680
Speaker 2: took the bull by the horns. And if the law

1843
01:38:32,760 --> 01:38:38,439
Speaker 2: department prepared his curfew order improperly or if you know,

1844
01:38:38,920 --> 01:38:41,840
Speaker 2: somehow it was was put out there where the criminal

1845
01:38:41,920 --> 01:38:44,960
Speaker 2: charges we were told to use were not the right

1846
01:38:45,040 --> 01:38:47,519
Speaker 2: criminal charges. I didn't see that in any of the

1847
01:38:47,600 --> 01:38:51,000
Speaker 2: articles I read. It just sounded like we're going to

1848
01:38:51,040 --> 01:38:54,280
Speaker 2: pay these people off because they filed a lawsuit. And

1849
01:38:54,280 --> 01:38:57,960
Speaker 2: and if that's what happened, it just invites more of

1850
01:38:58,000 --> 01:39:00,560
Speaker 2: this because there will be another reason the tests, like

1851
01:39:00,960 --> 01:39:05,519
Speaker 2: you know, nin Joe might protest this weather. There's all reasons,

1852
01:39:05,520 --> 01:39:06,439
Speaker 2: and you're down the.

1853
01:39:06,479 --> 01:39:09,439
Speaker 1: Road, and you would be allowed to do that. And

1854
01:39:09,479 --> 01:39:11,720
Speaker 1: then if you and Joe started throwing urine bottles and

1855
01:39:11,800 --> 01:39:13,960
Speaker 1: hitting people, you would be subject to arrest for you know,

1856
01:39:13,960 --> 01:39:16,679
Speaker 1: as salt battery or whatever comes along, or whatever charges

1857
01:39:16,720 --> 01:39:19,280
Speaker 1: exist for for engaging that type of behavior. But if

1858
01:39:19,320 --> 01:39:23,439
Speaker 1: you just standing there screaming about the weather too, that

1859
01:39:23,520 --> 01:39:24,240
Speaker 1: was my next question.

1860
01:39:24,439 --> 01:39:26,559
Speaker 2: Testing the weather that's too big to pick me and

1861
01:39:26,640 --> 01:39:29,280
Speaker 2: Joe out of. Somebody's going to have to do some

1862
01:39:29,320 --> 01:39:31,800
Speaker 2: sort of order or something to break up, right, That

1863
01:39:32,800 --> 01:39:33,559
Speaker 2: was my next question.

1864
01:39:34,080 --> 01:39:37,080
Speaker 1: But that was my next question. The dispersal order. You

1865
01:39:37,120 --> 01:39:40,000
Speaker 1: were there were people blocking the streets, preventing people from

1866
01:39:40,040 --> 01:39:43,160
Speaker 1: free movement. There you go, then it's a dispersal order.

1867
01:39:43,640 --> 01:39:45,200
Speaker 2: Then their way to the expressways.

1868
01:39:45,280 --> 01:39:48,599
Speaker 1: Then then you arrest them for free refusal to violate

1869
01:39:48,640 --> 01:39:51,080
Speaker 1: a dispersal order and for blocking traffic and other things

1870
01:39:51,120 --> 01:39:53,519
Speaker 1: that already exist on the book, as opposed to you're

1871
01:39:53,520 --> 01:39:57,320
Speaker 1: being arrested for being not past ten pm.

1872
01:39:58,360 --> 01:40:01,759
Speaker 2: I see your point. Once it got past ten pm,

1873
01:40:02,200 --> 01:40:04,680
Speaker 2: there's a little thing that comes called darkness that made

1874
01:40:04,720 --> 01:40:07,840
Speaker 2: it harder and harder to identify who was it that

1875
01:40:07,920 --> 01:40:10,880
Speaker 2: was causing a lot of these issues and lots not

1876
01:40:10,920 --> 01:40:13,240
Speaker 2: forget not only what was happening in other cities. We

1877
01:40:13,280 --> 01:40:17,200
Speaker 2: had a policeman and got shot. Here in Cincinnati, we

1878
01:40:18,400 --> 01:40:20,680
Speaker 2: had a whole whole lot on our hands. And I

1879
01:40:20,800 --> 01:40:22,600
Speaker 2: was one of the ones that was there, that was

1880
01:40:22,640 --> 01:40:25,439
Speaker 2: also there in two thousand and one, So I saw

1881
01:40:25,560 --> 01:40:30,200
Speaker 2: the difference between the two different occurrences. And in two

1882
01:40:30,240 --> 01:40:32,640
Speaker 2: thousand and one, things got way out of hand, and

1883
01:40:32,680 --> 01:40:35,519
Speaker 2: a lot of people got hurt, really really badly, and

1884
01:40:35,600 --> 01:40:38,559
Speaker 2: a lot of businesses got burned, and things happened that

1885
01:40:38,640 --> 01:40:45,200
Speaker 2: did not happen because again Cranly made steps and gave

1886
01:40:45,320 --> 01:40:47,880
Speaker 2: us orders, and we went out there and enforced them,

1887
01:40:47,920 --> 01:40:51,760
Speaker 2: including the curfew. But I was also there, Brian, and

1888
01:40:51,880 --> 01:40:56,920
Speaker 2: I saw a whole lot of demonstrations, purely demonstrations. Now, grant,

1889
01:40:57,320 --> 01:41:00,360
Speaker 2: they might have been blocking Central Parkway, but we we

1890
01:41:00,400 --> 01:41:04,120
Speaker 2: even put up with that so that they could speak

1891
01:41:04,160 --> 01:41:08,240
Speaker 2: their voice. Nobody, nobody in their right mind that witnessed

1892
01:41:08,240 --> 01:41:11,400
Speaker 2: all that could honestly say that people did not have

1893
01:41:11,479 --> 01:41:16,360
Speaker 2: an opportunity to express their First Amendment rights. They expressed them,

1894
01:41:16,400 --> 01:41:19,240
Speaker 2: and expressed them and expressed them all along as they

1895
01:41:19,520 --> 01:41:22,720
Speaker 2: shouted nastiness at the cops and everything else. There was.

1896
01:41:22,880 --> 01:41:27,680
Speaker 2: There was no heavy boot of of you know, some

1897
01:41:27,800 --> 01:41:31,720
Speaker 2: communist governments stepping on, stepping on people and saying you

1898
01:41:31,800 --> 01:41:34,479
Speaker 2: can't speak. They were able to speak. But when it

1899
01:41:34,640 --> 01:41:37,960
Speaker 2: got to the point where we were concerned that that

1900
01:41:38,160 --> 01:41:42,000
Speaker 2: there was going to be uh, mass criminal activity, that's

1901
01:41:42,040 --> 01:41:44,240
Speaker 2: when that's when that had to be stepped up and

1902
01:41:44,280 --> 01:41:46,840
Speaker 2: there had to be arrest. And again, they're playing a

1903
01:41:46,880 --> 01:41:49,320
Speaker 2: big boy, big girl's game. A lot of these folks

1904
01:41:49,400 --> 01:41:52,559
Speaker 2: were paid protesters, and so they they had to wait

1905
01:41:52,560 --> 01:41:55,080
Speaker 2: a long time till they want the potty. I have

1906
01:41:55,240 --> 01:41:58,559
Speaker 2: no sympathy for them whatsoever. You're hanging with a group

1907
01:41:58,680 --> 01:42:00,920
Speaker 2: like that. If I went down there because I really

1908
01:42:00,960 --> 01:42:03,280
Speaker 2: believed in their message and I wanted to demonstrate for

1909
01:42:03,320 --> 01:42:06,160
Speaker 2: a while, and then I start to see the activity

1910
01:42:06,280 --> 01:42:09,200
Speaker 2: of some of the people around me, and I saw

1911
01:42:09,240 --> 01:42:12,120
Speaker 2: the police starting have to gear up because of that activity,

1912
01:42:12,880 --> 01:42:16,800
Speaker 2: I would leave. And for those folks who chose not

1913
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Speaker 2: to leave, you get caught up in it, I'm sorry,

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Speaker 2: that's that's that's the way it went for you. But

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Speaker 2: you know, I'm not in a position to argue, you know,

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Speaker 2: legal stuff about whether or not the order was put

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Speaker 2: out correctly or something like that. The city screwed that up.

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Speaker 2: That's not You're not going to see my shock face

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Speaker 2: on that.

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Speaker 1: And I think that's really all.

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Speaker 2: That's all.

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Speaker 1: I really think that's all this being addressed is the

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Speaker 1: city issued in order that may have Listen, the constitution

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Speaker 1: doesn't say anything about ending at ten pm your free

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Speaker 1: assembly rights. That's I think that's the legal thing behind this.

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Speaker 1: You and I can agree all day long, bad things

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Speaker 1: were happening, that people were blocking the streets, all of

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Speaker 1: which we should have resulted in dispersal order and then

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Speaker 1: being perhaps arrested for failure to heed the dispersal warning

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Speaker 1: and order. Don't know, it's complicated, it's steeped in legal challenges.

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Speaker 1: But let me just observe this real quick as we

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Speaker 1: part comedy, Dan Hills, and I appreciate your willingness to

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Speaker 1: talk about this. Eight million dollars, as stupid as that

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Speaker 1: amount may be and as unsettling as you and I

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Speaker 1: might find it considering the money that's going to these people,

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Speaker 1: perhaps paid post protesters. I bet the fact that you

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Speaker 1: did break the crowd up saved the city a lot

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Speaker 1: more than eight point one million dollars in terms of

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Speaker 1: the damage that was avoided.

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Speaker 13: Right.

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Speaker 1: That is good.

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Speaker 2: You got me all right.

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Speaker 1: Fair enough. If that's what we have to live with,

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Speaker 1: that's how we'll get through. At Dan Hills On behalf

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Speaker 1: of my listening audience and my family to yours. Very

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Speaker 1: Merry Christmas brother. I hope to have you on again

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Speaker 1: real soon.

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Speaker 8: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Great, Merry Christmas to you and Joe as well.

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Speaker 1: Thanks man. Seventy to fifty five KRCD Talk have KARSD

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Speaker 1: Talk Station. It's Friday e Bottom of the Hour, Jay Ratliff.

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Speaker 1: I heard media aviation expert join us every week. Today,

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Speaker 1: I'm really excited to welcome to the fifty five KRC

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Speaker 1: Morning Show. Formerly with Freedom Works and Blaze Media, he's

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Speaker 1: been with the Competitive Enterprise Institute for a while. His

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Speaker 1: name Destri Edwards. He's the media production and studio manager

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Speaker 1: with a Competitive Enterprise Institute. As a passion for film

1958
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Speaker 1: and politics, he tries to use storytelling as a way

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Speaker 1: to bridge the gap between people and policy. And he

1960
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Speaker 1: is here to talk about an award winning documentary and

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Speaker 1: the timing couldn't be better. Man, Dear mister President, the

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Speaker 1: Letters of Julius Sand And while I don't know who

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Speaker 1: Julius sand is, you're going to explain that, Destrie. Welcome

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Speaker 1: to the fifty five case morning. So I said, the

1965
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Speaker 1: timing is great because I literally just got done watching

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Speaker 1: Death by Lightning on Netflix. I loved that welcome. It's

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Speaker 1: good to have you.

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Speaker 5: On Hey, great to talk with you.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 1: Did Death by Lightning? For my listeners who don't know,

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Speaker 1: it was about the president James Garfield and how he

1972
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Speaker 1: ended up being president and then getting assassinated. It could

1973
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Speaker 1: come across as a work of fiction. The story was

1974
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Speaker 1: a really cool one, but it really happened. Did that

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Speaker 1: series inspire dear mister President, The Letters of Julius sand

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Speaker 1: Or was this project a concept you were working on

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Speaker 1: or had already completed before that one came out?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's a good question. I mean, it's by the

1979
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Speaker 5: timing of things that can look that way. But actually

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Speaker 5: I was probably two three months into pre production on

1981
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Speaker 5: my documentary when Death by Lighton was announced, so there's

1982
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Speaker 5: a pretty good chance they were in the works on

1983
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Speaker 5: things behind the scenes before I was. But as far

1984
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Speaker 5: as official announcements, I was not aware of it when

1985
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Speaker 5: I started.

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Speaker 1: So I imagine your documentary or your film, your mister President,

1987
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Speaker 1: Letters of Julison. You're getting a lot of extra love

1988
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Speaker 1: because people have to be intrigued by the twenty first president,

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Speaker 1: Chester Arthur, who succeeded after the assassination of President Garfield.

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Speaker 1: He came across as a really really corrupt so and

1991
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Speaker 1: so Destri, did they accurately and I will move before

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Speaker 1: we move over to your film, did they accurately portray

1993
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Speaker 1: his level of corruption in Death by Lightning?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, so it's interesting how they did that. So it

1995
01:45:51,800 --> 01:45:55,479
Speaker 5: is true that he was a corrupt person coming up

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Speaker 5: into the vice presidency and he was not a supportive

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Speaker 5: of Vice President. I will say Death by did overplay

1998
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Speaker 5: some things. For instance, very like Sport was very like,

1999
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Speaker 5: but he never had any of Garfield's cabinet members kidnapped.

2000
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Speaker 5: He also never spoke ill of Garfield to the press.

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Speaker 5: He else didn't try to resign at that point either.

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Speaker 5: So there's a lot of things that overplays, but the

2003
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Speaker 5: general concept is true. He definitely was. He definitely had

2004
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Speaker 5: a corrupt past with the spoils system coming into.

2005
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Speaker 2: All of this.

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Speaker 1: And again Death by Lightning really revealed the New York

2007
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Speaker 1: political machine for what it was, which was very, very powerful,

2008
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Speaker 1: and Chester Arthur part of that, and one would have

2009
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Speaker 1: expected him to sort of continue that level of corruption.

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Speaker 1: But as I believe you point out, and dear mister President,

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Speaker 1: the letter of Julius Sand, that didn't it didn't turn

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Speaker 1: out that way. He actually turned out to be a

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Speaker 1: bit of a reformer. Playing into that Julia Sand. Who

2014
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Speaker 1: was Julius Sand and how did she become so influential

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Speaker 1: on how his presidency turned out?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, So drawing back to death by lightning again, as

2017
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Speaker 5: you have seen in the final episode of Garfield's wife,

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Speaker 5: Lucretia speaks to Arthur in that episode and he gives

2019
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Speaker 5: like a quick speech encouraging him to step up and

2020
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Speaker 5: reform himself. So that never happened in real life. He

2021
01:47:17,680 --> 01:47:20,960
Speaker 5: never had that kind of conversation with Christia Garfield. But

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Speaker 5: what the filmmakers did there actually drew those words of

2023
01:47:24,479 --> 01:47:27,519
Speaker 5: a paraphrase from what Julius Sand had written. So after

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Speaker 5: Garfield was shot by Charles Guiteau, the country was fearful

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Speaker 5: about what was happening. Arthur was also fearful because he

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Speaker 5: had no intention of becoming president. He had never wanted that.

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Speaker 5: He felt fully unqualified to be the president. And so

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Speaker 5: a few weeks into Garfield being on his deathbed as

2029
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Speaker 5: everyone was fearing that he would pass aways. Of course,

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Speaker 5: she eventually did. This woman Julius sand who was just

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Speaker 5: a normal constituent from New York City, she started writing Arthur.

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Speaker 5: She wrote to Arthur and encouraged well. She started out

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Speaker 5: by telling him that, Hey, people are about in grief,

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Speaker 5: but do you realize it not so much because See

2035
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Speaker 5: is dying, but because you were a successor. And that's

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Speaker 5: kind of I imagine a gut punch to anybody reading that.

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Speaker 5: But she went on also to encourage him, telling him, Hey,

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Speaker 5: I'm not asking to her, is up to you to resign.

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Speaker 5: I'm asking you to her reform and be better, to

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Speaker 5: be the president that this country needs you to be.

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Speaker 5: And she continued writing those letters. She wrote twenty three

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Speaker 5: letters to him over the next couple of years, being

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Speaker 5: a conscience to him, giving him admonishment for things to

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Speaker 5: do wrong or might be wrong, but also give him

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Speaker 5: encouragement that she believed he could rise to the occasion.

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Speaker 1: Well, I find it fascinating, you know, my listeners and

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Speaker 1: I struggle regularly with you know, reaching out to our politicians,

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01:48:44,000 --> 01:48:46,519
Speaker 1: you know, call to action, call your congressman, call to action,

2049
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Speaker 1: call your senator, send him an email, send him a letter.

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Speaker 1: No one believes that works. I'm just surprised that the

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Speaker 1: president of the United States. And granted the population was

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01:48:55,720 --> 01:48:57,400
Speaker 1: much smaller, and I don't know how many people actually

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01:48:57,439 --> 01:49:00,240
Speaker 1: wrote the president, but how is it that she was

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01:49:00,280 --> 01:49:03,439
Speaker 1: able to get his attention and have such a profound

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Speaker 1: impact on it?

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Speaker 2: Was?

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Speaker 1: It was? It kind of a unique thing for someone

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Speaker 1: to reach out. What caused him to be to gravitate

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Speaker 1: and take what she had to say by way of

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Speaker 1: recommendation to heart.

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Speaker 5: It's a good question. So even in her first letter,

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Speaker 5: she assumes that he's received other letters like this, and

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Speaker 5: maybe he did. We don't have any record of any

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01:49:24,040 --> 01:49:26,960
Speaker 5: other letters he at least nothing else that he kept.

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Speaker 5: He kept all of her letters, but he did nothing

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Speaker 5: from anyone else. And as I was doing this story

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Speaker 5: and talked with several historians who have broad knowledge of

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Speaker 5: the presidency, I was asking them, Hey, do you know

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01:49:39,680 --> 01:49:43,240
Speaker 5: any other story like this where a president was influenced

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Speaker 5: in this way by just a normal constituent, And no

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Speaker 5: historian I talked to had any other example of this level.

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Speaker 5: Like the closest thing I make a point to was

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Speaker 5: a Lincoln growing a beard, which looks cool, But that's

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Speaker 5: a set of choice. This is a unique situation in

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Speaker 5: history that we're looking at here, but there's no reason

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Speaker 5: it has to be unique. I think that's part of

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Speaker 5: the lesson here, is that we assume that we have

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Speaker 5: no influence on our elected leaders that we actually do.

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Speaker 1: Now, did she have some unique political insight? Was she

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Speaker 1: connected in any way, because apparently she had a sufficient

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01:50:20,640 --> 01:50:24,519
Speaker 1: knowledge of the corruption in how he should reform himself

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Speaker 1: and move away from that corrupt New York political machine

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Speaker 1: that he was part of. I mean, what was she

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01:50:29,439 --> 01:50:31,800
Speaker 1: unique in some regard in terms of her knowledge? I

2085
01:50:31,800 --> 01:50:33,719
Speaker 1: guess I'm just wondering how she was able to push

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Speaker 1: his button.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean she her family was decently well off,

2088
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Speaker 5: but they had no political connections whatsoever. She would she

2089
01:50:42,960 --> 01:50:46,880
Speaker 5: herself was actually fairly sickly and didn't get out of

2090
01:50:46,920 --> 01:50:49,519
Speaker 5: the house an exceptional amount of time, and when she

2091
01:50:49,600 --> 01:50:53,360
Speaker 5: did it really took the energy out of her. She

2092
01:50:53,400 --> 01:50:56,720
Speaker 5: read the newspapers, but she wasn't informed in some kind

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01:50:56,720 --> 01:50:59,400
Speaker 5: of way beyond that, like some kind of insight source.

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01:50:59,439 --> 01:51:01,799
Speaker 5: So she, you know, didn't know more than an average

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Speaker 5: person could have.

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Speaker 1: So what policies that Chester Arthur embraced and during his

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01:51:07,800 --> 01:51:10,680
Speaker 1: period of reform moving away from his prior corruption, what

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01:51:10,760 --> 01:51:13,479
Speaker 1: policies did he embrace that you can trace directly to

2099
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Speaker 1: the recommendations of Julia.

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Speaker 5: Sand Yeah, so the biggest thing we can look at

2101
01:51:19,040 --> 01:51:24,320
Speaker 5: is the Peneltan Act. That was a reference to the

2102
01:51:24,400 --> 01:51:26,599
Speaker 5: end of death by lightning, which is kind of an

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01:51:26,640 --> 01:51:30,280
Speaker 5: interesting arc for Arthur himself because that goes against his

2104
01:51:30,479 --> 01:51:33,680
Speaker 5: entire career. At that point, he had been at the

2105
01:51:33,720 --> 01:51:36,839
Speaker 5: head of the spoil system where people get government jobs

2106
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Speaker 5: not based on their qualifications but based on political favors

2107
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Speaker 5: and who they knew and who they had helped in

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Speaker 5: the past, regardless to whether or not they had qualification

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Speaker 5: for their job. And so the Penlan Act is what

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Speaker 5: kind of started the path away from that to make

2111
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Speaker 5: actual qualifications and this wasn't about the political favors being

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01:51:56,000 --> 01:52:00,280
Speaker 5: paid out. I don't know if his necessarily some much

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Speaker 5: throughout Julius Hand's letters in Arthur's career that he did

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Speaker 5: things specifically because Julius Fan asked him to. More so,

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Speaker 5: she was kind of a conscience to him and.

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Speaker 15: Was giving him.

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Speaker 5: Support to Hey, this is what the people want, this

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Speaker 5: is what you are capable of doing. So there were

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Speaker 5: things like that, I think chief among them, as well

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Speaker 5: as the first Chinese Exclusion Act. The Second Chinese Exclusion

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Speaker 5: Act is a different matter that we discussed in the documentary,

2122
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Speaker 5: but there are things like that as well as some

2123
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Speaker 5: different corruption investigations where she would encourage him to, hey,

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Speaker 5: make sure your administration moves forward.

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Speaker 1: The right way on this, I guess I'm kind of

2126
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Speaker 1: curious did he not have advisors and other elected officials

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Speaker 1: around him who might have been offering similar suggestions that

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Speaker 1: Julius sand was offering. And I just find it so

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Speaker 1: unusual that some lone voice in the wilderness was able

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Speaker 1: to impact him in such a profound way that he

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Speaker 1: wasn't surrounded by other people who might have influenced them

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Speaker 1: in the same way.

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Speaker 5: I think, particularly in the beginning when he was still

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Speaker 5: a vice president and Garfield was dying. Arthur's wife had

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Speaker 5: died just the year before. He didn't really have any clothes, like,

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Speaker 5: he didn't really have any close family other than that.

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Speaker 5: I mean, he had his children, but that's not really

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Speaker 5: that was a different scenario. And then his friends were

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Speaker 5: all the people in the political machine. So they in

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Speaker 5: this moment where the machines understrut scrutiny, they weren't really

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Speaker 5: people he could go to for this kind of support.

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Speaker 5: So he was kind of isolated at the time of

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Speaker 5: Garfield's assassination, and that he was at this point where

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Speaker 5: he really needed somebody to reach out to him and

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01:53:49,360 --> 01:53:52,120
Speaker 5: be encouragement to him and point him in the right direction.

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Speaker 5: And just what Julius Hand was able to be. And

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Speaker 5: as his administration kind of took off, all of Garfield's

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Speaker 5: appointees didn't trust him and end up all resigning. So

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Speaker 5: the entire cabinet over the course of a couple of months,

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Speaker 5: leaves office with the exception of one person, and so

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Speaker 5: he has to rebuild the cabinet basically from scratch. And

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Speaker 5: so in that time he's kind of loss for advisors

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Speaker 5: and they lost for allies, and so Julius Sand's voice

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Speaker 5: kind of stands out because of that.

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Speaker 1: That's just so intriguing. Now, how is this will reveal

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Speaker 1: my honest political ignorance with regard to Chester A or

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Speaker 1: Chester Arthur's presidency. How is he remembered at least in

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Speaker 1: terms of his presidency overall? Is he looked on with

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Speaker 1: favor or one of the more overlooked presidents. I mean,

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Speaker 1: how do you sort of I know it's a subjective measure,

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Speaker 1: but how do you rank him in terms of his

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Speaker 1: success as president considering the level of corruption he was

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Speaker 1: involved with before he became president.

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Speaker 5: That's a great question. So this is probably changing now

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Speaker 5: because of death by Lightning and him being a major

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Speaker 5: character in that. But before the show of these, he

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Speaker 5: has been consistently ranked as the least known US president

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Speaker 5: of history.

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Speaker 1: Well, thank you, that made you feel better. He made

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Speaker 1: me feel better.

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Speaker 5: But as far as people actually look at the achievements,

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Speaker 5: I mean the biggest thing being the Penalton Act, which

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Speaker 5: I would say, you know, there are presidents who have

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Speaker 5: made some negative choices on civil service reforms since them,

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Speaker 5: but I think it's pretty easy for all sides to

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Speaker 5: be able to look at Arthur's reform and say, yeah,

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Speaker 5: that was a good direction he was taking this. So

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Speaker 5: I think that civil service reform, when you look at

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Speaker 5: his record, as the major key cornerstone of what he

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Speaker 5: was able to accomplish, and despite all the evidence, like

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Speaker 5: if you look at this, you know, if you're looking

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Speaker 5: for someone to vote for in a primary or general election.

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Speaker 5: Looked at this person's past, all the coruestion they've been

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Speaker 5: involved in. Plus not a good vice president either. He's

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Speaker 5: not the person you would say, yes, this is going

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Speaker 5: to be a good president, guy at the back. But

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Speaker 5: he actually did end up being a good president. And

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Speaker 5: even people like Mark Twain were saying, and Mark Twain

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Speaker 5: not someone who was eager to just give, you know,

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Speaker 5: praise to politicians, acknowledge that, hey, like it would be

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Speaker 5: hard to do better than Arthur's presidency.

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Speaker 1: How about that? Well, I've learned a lot and I

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Speaker 1: know it's going to it's a great companion piece for

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Speaker 1: those who've seen Death by Lightning or haven't seen it.

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Speaker 1: I'll encourage him to watch it. I just thought it

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Speaker 1: was a great story to tell. But also you get

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Speaker 1: a little insight into who Chester A. Arthur was, and

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Speaker 1: that'll segue perfectly into Destri Edwards film. Dear Mister President,

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Speaker 1: The Letters of Julius Sand Should my listeners be inspired

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Speaker 1: by Julius Sand in the sense that, yes, it's worth

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Speaker 1: it to take the time to write that letter and

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Speaker 1: offer your suggestions.

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Speaker 5: Absolutely, And I would say, obviously things are different today

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Speaker 5: than they were in the eighteen eighties. So the methodology

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01:56:53,400 --> 01:56:55,520
Speaker 5: might be different, it might not be a letter of

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01:56:55,640 --> 01:56:58,960
Speaker 5: maybe it is, but I would say the big takeaway

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01:56:59,000 --> 01:57:02,240
Speaker 5: there is people do have a voice. You are able

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Speaker 5: to impact your critical representatives around you, whether that's the president,

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Speaker 5: whether that's your senator, whether that's your mayor. But be involved,

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Speaker 5: be an encouragement. Don't just be there to slam them.

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01:57:15,680 --> 01:57:18,760
Speaker 5: Like you can, be honest, but you know if you're

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01:57:18,920 --> 01:57:20,200
Speaker 5: you're going to listen to you, if you're going to

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Speaker 5: encourage in the right direction, not just beat up on them.

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Speaker 5: Be tactical as far as exactly. Yes. And for people

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Speaker 5: who are interested in seeing the film, it's available now

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Speaker 5: on YouTube. So all you have to do is just

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Speaker 5: look up dear mister President, The Letters of Julius Sand

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Speaker 5: or look up the organization Competitive Enterprise Institute, and you

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Speaker 5: know you will find it there for free on YouTube.

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Speaker 1: Competitive Enterprisidency to CEI dot org. YouTube is a place

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Speaker 1: to find the movie, Dear mister President, The Letters of

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Speaker 1: Julius sand I'm going to watch it today because again

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Speaker 1: fascinated by death by lightning, destri Edwards filmmaker. I really

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Speaker 1: enjoyed talking with you today and thanks for you know,

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Speaker 1: filling in the blanks on the obvious questions we all

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Speaker 1: had after watching Death Black Lightning. This is perfect timing.

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Speaker 15: Man really is well.

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Speaker 5: Thank you so much, being great to talk with you.

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Speaker 1: It's been a real pleasure having you on the show. Sir,

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Speaker 1: get on YouTube. Check it out, dear mister President, the

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Speaker 1: letters of Julius saying take care of destry. It's been

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Speaker 1: a pleasure stick around. I heard media aviation expert Jay

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Speaker 1: right lyft coming up. It's eight twenty right now, I

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Speaker 1: fifty five KCD talk station fifty five krc A twenty

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Speaker 1: nine on a Thursday of love this time of week.

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Speaker 1: I heard media aviation expert Jay Ratliff joins us every

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Speaker 1: week to talk aviation issues when we're not talking stocks. Right, Jay,

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Speaker 1: welcome back, my friend. Love having you on the show.

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Speaker 7: I will talk about either one of them my friends,

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Speaker 7: but it's it's always good, always good to be here.

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Speaker 1: Jay always follows up the segment sometime in the morning,

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Speaker 1: like an hour from now. He's say, look, I'm made

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Speaker 1: eight grand today. It took me five minutes.

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Speaker 7: Actually I'm using I'm using a stock as we speak,

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Speaker 7: so they can do anything with it for the end

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Speaker 7: of the segment. I'll let you know.

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Speaker 1: It only takes you a couple of minutes to turn

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Speaker 1: it around. I like the report you.

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Speaker 7: That's Brian. When I tell people that I I reduce

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Speaker 7: the risk of my stock trading by day trading, they

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01:59:02,600 --> 01:59:04,280
Speaker 7: look at me like I'm nuts. But if you can

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01:59:04,280 --> 01:59:06,080
Speaker 7: take a small bit of it, put it in the

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01:59:06,120 --> 01:59:08,480
Speaker 7: market for you know, eight ten minutes at a time,

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01:59:09,600 --> 01:59:12,919
Speaker 7: you're reducing your risk big time and that's better protecting

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Speaker 7: your portfolio. So to me, that's the way to do it.

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Speaker 7: I'm not a part of the long term by holding

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Speaker 7: prey crowd. And now the last six weeks, I think

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01:59:20,440 --> 01:59:25,240
Speaker 7: I'm averaging seven thousand dollars a week. So look, Northwest

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Speaker 7: Airlines didn't pay me that. Ye, I mean it's worth it.

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Speaker 7: But I know, I know, I know how corporate America is, right,

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Speaker 7: I do care what we think.

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Speaker 1: You don't care, and Southwest Airlines, I guess, is not

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Speaker 1: going to be cunning an eleven million dollar check. What's

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Speaker 1: the story on this? I know it's I know you're

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Speaker 1: really pleased about this outcome, so you.

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Speaker 7: Had and you just had to start with this one.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 7: Let's get Jay's blood pressure up. Southwest Airlines two Christmases ago.

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Speaker 7: It was the week of twenty twenty three Christmas week

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Speaker 7: they had a computer meltdown. I mean, no other way

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Speaker 7: to put it. The computer system that we later found

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01:59:59,840 --> 02:00:02,600
Speaker 7: out was last updated in like I dont on nineteen ninety four,

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Speaker 7: had crashed. This is a computer system for scheduling that

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Speaker 7: was developed right, I think at a time when Southwest

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Speaker 7: was a third of the size of what they are now.

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Speaker 7: So the Department Transportation under the Biden administration stepped in

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02:00:15,560 --> 02:00:19,320
Speaker 7: and said, time out here, you really dropped the ball

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Speaker 7: with regards to your customers. We're finding you thirty five

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Speaker 7: million dollars. They were holding the airlines accountable. I was thrilled,

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Speaker 7: and look, Southwest is a great airline, but when you

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Speaker 7: don't devote the resources that your employees need, yeah, you've

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Speaker 7: got to pay for it. So Southwest has paid twenty

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Speaker 7: four million of that. The next payment of eleven million

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Speaker 7: was due in next month in January, and the U. S.

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Speaker 7: Department Transportation stepped in said, you know what, You've already

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Speaker 7: paid enough. You don't need to pay any more. You

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Speaker 7: promise never to do it again. It's going to be okay,

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Speaker 7: just forget about that last of eleven million dollars. Now, yeah,

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Speaker 7: that bothers me a great deal. But this is the

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Speaker 7: trend of the Trump administration, which I'm a big fan

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Speaker 7: of with regards to the treatment with the airline industry.

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Speaker 7: The airlines almost get a free pass. Not from a

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Speaker 7: safety related standpoint, Don't get me wrong there, because the

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Speaker 7: FAA is still doing their job there trying to keep

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Speaker 7: everything safe as they can. But Brian, it just it

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Speaker 7: drives me out of my mind. When we've got a situation,

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Speaker 7: when you have just time after time after time of

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Speaker 7: having a situation where you've got this ongoing issue of

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Speaker 7: airlines getting away with what they do. It just it

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Speaker 7: drives me crazy.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I can imagine. So this was a proprietary software

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Speaker 1: that Southwest itself developed, yes, okay, part of their system.

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Speaker 7: And I can't remember if it was the the flight

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Speaker 7: control system, not flight control system, but if it was

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Speaker 7: a crew management system or something they were using for

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Speaker 7: their flight control as far as the using that, but

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Speaker 7: it was a system that was woefully outdated and over

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Speaker 7: the years Southwest has had issues with this. But Brian,

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Speaker 7: they have an all star team at Southwest and every

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Speaker 7: single time the men and women would find a way

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Speaker 7: to pull it out. They would rise to the occasion

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Speaker 7: and save the day. And sadly, that's what worked against

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Speaker 7: Southwest Airlines because they could always rely on that happening. Well,

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Speaker 7: it just got to the point where it was just

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Speaker 7: too much, too quick, and there was no way they

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Speaker 7: could get past it. And yeah, you had a lot

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Speaker 7: of passengers that were, in essence, put in a situation

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Speaker 7: over the busy Christmas seat travel season. All the flights

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Speaker 7: were filled. Where you gonna put them? I mean, you've

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Speaker 7: got a flight of one hundred and fifty three people

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Speaker 7: just canceled. Every single flight around, just full. I don't

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Speaker 7: know where you're gonna put them.

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Speaker 1: I understand the reason for the fine. Then that becomes

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Speaker 1: crystal clear, Unlike, for example, if it was the outdated,

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Speaker 1: ancient air traffic control system. So when's the federal government

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Speaker 1: going to find itself for not improving that one?

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Speaker 7: Oh, they'll find it and then they'll wave the fine

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Speaker 7: and will all feel better because they find themselves. That's

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Speaker 7: how it works.

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Speaker 1: I learned that from you, brother, Amen. And meanwhile, there

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Speaker 1: they're busily scrambling around looking for five and a quarter

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Speaker 1: its floppy disk to keep the thing up and run.

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Speaker 7: Uh seven seven Still yeah, still are at a at

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Speaker 7: a point where they do get their updates through that.

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Speaker 1: So yes, indeed, I'll tell you what. Rather than go

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Speaker 1: extra long and draw the hairy eyeball from executive producer

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Speaker 1: Joe Strecker, will pause right now, we'll bring you back.

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Speaker 1: We'll find out about this Quantus flight which is given

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Speaker 1: faulty load and balanced numbers before takeoff. That sounds frightening.

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Speaker 1: Plus Tampa Airport award bonuses to some workers, et cetera.

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Speaker 1: We got multiple topics to go over with. I heart

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Speaker 1: media aviation Expert Jay Ratlet's stick around right back, fifty

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Speaker 1: five KRC Champion Windows seasons, the talk Spatial. Have you

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Speaker 1: ever been in the cockpit before Jay Ratliff, has I

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Speaker 1: heard Media Aviation Expert. We had the pleasure of his

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Speaker 1: company every Thursday for a few segments. Segment number two here,

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Speaker 1: this one's kind of weird. I don't know how this

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Speaker 1: works in terms of the load distribution on a plight

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Speaker 1: on a flight, but apparently you have to watch that

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Speaker 1: kind of stuff. What happened with this Quantus flight, Well,

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Speaker 1: we had we.

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Speaker 7: Had a situation where you know Quantus, which is known

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Speaker 7: as what the safest airline in the world. Yeah, that's

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Speaker 7: absolutely the case. What ended up happening was that the

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Speaker 7: crew was given the detail. Well, what we're hearing is

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Speaker 7: a Quantus flight in December took off with fifty one

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Speaker 7: more passengers than were reported. Now, the weight and balance

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Speaker 7: calculations for each flight are exact, I mean, to the

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Speaker 7: last pound, and a lot of times, if there's bad weather,

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Speaker 7: the crew can say, you know what, we could use

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Speaker 7: some extra fuel because we may have encounter delays. So

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Speaker 7: since we've got a lighter load, let's go ahead and

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Speaker 7: put on some more fuel. And the problem is you

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Speaker 7: could then exceed your maximum allowable takeoff weight, and you've

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Speaker 7: got a problem because they had ten pounds of extra

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Speaker 7: weight they did not know about. Now, they could have

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Speaker 7: also said, since we have a lighter load, let's take

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Speaker 7: off from a shorter runway. So yeah, just the the

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Speaker 7: ramifications of this being off this much could have been

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Speaker 7: could have been tragic, could have been horrific. Now, the

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Speaker 7: crew did taxi, they took off, there was no problem,

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Speaker 7: and it wasn't until they were airborne that they realized.

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Speaker 7: When they were told what had taken place. So as

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Speaker 7: a result, you know, Quantas is investigating. They're trying to

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Speaker 7: look at this, trying to see exactly what's taken place

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Speaker 7: so that they can try to avoid this kind of

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Speaker 7: mistake from happening. In the airline industry, as you and

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Speaker 7: I have talked about forever, constantly shares mistakes so that

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Speaker 7: people at other airlines can learn from what took place

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Speaker 7: at Quantas, so that they can make sure they can

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Speaker 7: take necessary steps to try to reduce the likelihood of

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Speaker 7: that you know, taken effects so horrific.

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Speaker 1: Cum Yeah, the airline, the flight ended up with fifty

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Speaker 1: one more people than originally expected.

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Speaker 2: Is that?

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Speaker 1: Is that what I understand?

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Speaker 7: Know, then the manifest showed let's say that they were

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Speaker 7: expecting two hundred and fifty one people. The paperwork showed

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Speaker 7: two hundred, so that two hundred people boarded, but they

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Speaker 7: really had two hundred and fifty one, So the manifest

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Speaker 7: itself didn't match with what they had. And you give

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Speaker 7: the crew the total number of passengers, the bags, the cargo,

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Speaker 7: all the stuff, so that they can compute what their

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Speaker 7: maximum takeoff weight's going to be, and it dictates everything

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Speaker 7: that they do on the flight deck. So when that's off,

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Speaker 7: then the most critical moment of flight takeoff has been

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Speaker 7: in essence compromised if you're not careful. So that's one

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Speaker 7: of the reasons that so often, you know, we tend

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Speaker 7: to overlook sometimes just how good flight crews are and

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Speaker 7: all the inner workings of what goes on in the

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Speaker 7: airline industry, and it's got to be exact, and sadly,

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Speaker 7: in this case for some reason, yeah, they through ten

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Speaker 7: thousand extra pounds on the aircraft and passengers and bags,

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Speaker 7: and the flight crew is unaware they were operating on

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Speaker 7: a different set of data.

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Speaker 1: It seems unusual to me, just based on all the

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Speaker 1: stories that you've talked about in this segment over the years,

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Speaker 1: that they would rely on the manifest and determining how

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Speaker 1: much extra fuel in this case they could put on

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Speaker 1: the plane, because well, listen, there's always a scramble at

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Speaker 1: the end, people coming up in the gate lay, they

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Speaker 1: buy a ticket last minute, some people don't show up,

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Speaker 1: they overbook a flight, in which case I imagine they

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Speaker 1: wouldn't add extra fuel. But just to rely on that

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Speaker 1: manifest and not rely on a head count, that just seems, well, no, what.

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Speaker 7: The crew gets is exact. So the people at the

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Speaker 7: gate may be expecting three hundred people, but if one

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Speaker 7: hundred and eighty three get on board, that's the number

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Speaker 7: of the crew uses the crew's given exact numbers. We

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Speaker 7: have one hundred and eighty three souls on board. You've

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Speaker 7: got all of that stuff squared away so that everybody's

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Speaker 7: operating from the same you know, the same thing. The

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Speaker 7: problem was what was put on the airplane. The information

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Speaker 7: gave the pilots was ten thousand pounds off. It was

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Speaker 7: an operation issue where they did not Yeah, and that

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Speaker 7: was really the problem.

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Speaker 1: Well, I mean the horror that you know, I can

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Speaker 1: imagine might happen as a consequence of this. You know,

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Speaker 1: the planes' is not going to have lift off, right,

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Speaker 1: I mean, isn't that really what you're talking about?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean remember the horrific comm air crash in

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Speaker 7: Lexington that happened because the crew took off on the

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Speaker 7: wrong runway which was too short. And yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 7: had Quantas done something like that where they needed more

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Speaker 7: run Brian, It's just it's you know, flying is incredibly

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Speaker 7: incredibly safe. My apologies to anybody who's on their way

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Speaker 7: to the airport right now, because it's not like something

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Speaker 7: that happens. But you know, when you have the number

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Speaker 7: of flights that we have in the course of the day,

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Speaker 7: and you have eight or ten million people a day

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Speaker 7: that are flying worldwide, how often do we talk about

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Speaker 7: an accident that takes place? Very very rarely do we.

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Speaker 7: And that's a result of the training that the crews have,

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Speaker 7: the incredible equipment that we have, and you know, just

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Speaker 7: all the things that go on behind the scenes to

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Speaker 7: keep things safe. But one of the things we have

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Speaker 7: to have is a very exact count of everything that's

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Speaker 7: on the airplane so that the crew at the last

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Speaker 7: moment can do their weight and balance calculations they can

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Speaker 7: go from there. A lot of times with those comm

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Speaker 7: air jets would have a situation with those fifty passengers,

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Speaker 7: which were great to have, but boy, they were painting

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Speaker 7: the butt because if you had a long flight with

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Speaker 7: a lot of fuel, you'd have to leave four or

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Speaker 7: five people off the plane because of the weight and

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Speaker 7: balance requirements because they had to take extra fuel. Or

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Speaker 7: you could take all the passengers and no bags, or

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Speaker 7: you could take forty seven people in some of the

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Speaker 7: bags I mean were there was always this tight rope. Now,

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Speaker 7: the bigger the airplane gets, the more relaxed you can

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Speaker 7: be on that where the airplane is going to be

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Speaker 7: able to be big enough that it can take everything

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Speaker 7: that you have, but those weight and balance numbers that

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Speaker 7: you give to the crew have to be exact.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, well it just reminds me that the de

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Speaker 1: icing the winging thing. Since we're getting a big winter

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Speaker 1: storm tonight. You know, my dad and I were on

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Speaker 1: that flight bringing the Bengals back from Denver long long

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Speaker 1: time ago, and we sat on the runway in this

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Speaker 1: snow and it kept snowing. We kept sitting there and

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Speaker 1: sitting there, and sitting there and sitting there. My dad

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Speaker 1: has this just pale white, you know, power to him,

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Speaker 1: and he's kind of holding onto this armrest. We finally

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Speaker 1: took off. I'm like, Dad, what is wrong with you?

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Speaker 1: He said, they didn't de ice the wings. They didn't

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Speaker 1: de ice the wings, and I was like, what are

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Speaker 1: you talking about. So explained me the icing procedures and

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Speaker 1: apparently there's a time limit that you have to follow

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Speaker 1: and you're going to get the ice the wings. I'm

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Speaker 1: on a flight several many years later, same situation, sitting

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Speaker 1: on the runway and this this it's kind of a

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Speaker 1: sleety snow coming down. And I just looked at the stewardess.

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Speaker 1: I said, is the pilot going to have the wings

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Speaker 1: the ice before we take off? And she goes, oh,

2485
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Speaker 1: don't worry about that. The pilot knows what he's doing.

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Speaker 1: And then you know, five minutes later she disappears, and

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Speaker 1: then the captain comes on, we're going to be taking

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Speaker 1: a brief break to pull over and have the wings

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Speaker 1: the ice. And I always think that I was responsible

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Speaker 1: for getting the wings the ice because my dad brought

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Speaker 1: that to my attention. He didn't say a word.

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Speaker 7: Well, I mean, and you've got to be aware of that,

2493
02:10:43,080 --> 02:10:46,920
Speaker 7: because Brian, it's just it's a critical thing. And I've

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Speaker 7: said before, if you really want to have a lot

2495
02:10:48,920 --> 02:10:51,400
Speaker 7: of fun on a plane you're not on you can

2496
02:10:51,440 --> 02:10:53,960
Speaker 7: go to YouTube and look up. I think it's a

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Speaker 7: Russian aircraft that is taking off and it has, like,

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Speaker 7: I don't know, a put of snow on the wing.

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Speaker 1: Oh lord, yes, how can you get lift?

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Speaker 7: How that airplane got off the ground? I tell you this,

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Speaker 7: I would have been the next aviation story because I

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02:11:09,000 --> 02:11:11,400
Speaker 7: had I been anywhere near an exit, I would have

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Speaker 7: been out the door before they pressurize that aircraft to

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02:11:14,200 --> 02:11:17,480
Speaker 7: get out of there, because there's no way I would

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02:11:17,480 --> 02:11:18,520
Speaker 7: have been on that aircraft.

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Speaker 1: All right, food for thought for people who are flying

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02:11:21,040 --> 02:11:21,800
Speaker 1: later in the evening.

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Speaker 7: Again, apologies, get I get lots of fun emails like

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Speaker 7: stop it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, I know, yeah, And I'm no huge

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Speaker 1: fan of flag anyway, let's pause, ring Jay Back. I

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Speaker 1: got a couple more stories to talk about and get

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Speaker 1: our hubsh see ice A forty nine if you have

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Speaker 1: KCD talk station Brian Thomas with j ratliftar aviation expert

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Speaker 1: the entirety of iHeart Media's aviation expert. He's on all

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02:11:45,320 --> 02:11:47,000
Speaker 1: over the nation. We get him for a few segments

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02:11:47,040 --> 02:11:49,200
Speaker 1: on Thursdays, and I love it. Let's talk real quick

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Speaker 1: since tomorrow's Tech Friday with Dave Hatter, the TSA's warning

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Speaker 1: about using public Wi Fi while traveling through airports.

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Speaker 7: You and I talked about the the the charging ports

2521
02:12:02,240 --> 02:12:06,160
Speaker 7: that are at the airports and how to be careful. Yeah. Yeah,

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02:12:06,240 --> 02:12:09,560
Speaker 7: because some somehow we've had hackers that have put out

2523
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Speaker 7: some of these things, like the fake atm things or

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Speaker 7: things you put at gas pumps. Where people can unexpectedly,

2525
02:12:15,600 --> 02:12:18,480
Speaker 7: you know, put something in and your your private information

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Speaker 7: is subject to hackers. Well, we've had that where the

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Speaker 7: TSA said, look, if you're going to charge your phone

2528
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Speaker 7: at an airport, use your own charger. But they're also saying,

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Speaker 7: the TSA that they're getting reports of people that are

2530
02:12:30,280 --> 02:12:33,600
Speaker 7: connecting to the public Wi Fi and airports are placing

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02:12:33,640 --> 02:12:36,000
Speaker 7: themselves at risk as well because it's not as secure,

2532
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Speaker 7: and they've had it. Would know all about that because

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02:12:39,120 --> 02:12:41,080
Speaker 7: the TSA saying that, look, a lot of these people

2534
02:12:41,160 --> 02:12:43,520
Speaker 7: are connecting to things that aren't as secure and it's

2535
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Speaker 7: allowing hackers to more easily access our personal information. Now,

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02:12:47,920 --> 02:12:50,440
Speaker 7: when you've got the hectic pace of an airport, that

2537
02:12:50,480 --> 02:12:52,440
Speaker 7: can cause a lot of people to let their guard

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02:12:52,480 --> 02:12:55,600
Speaker 7: down because looks hits the time of travel exhaustion, the

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02:12:55,680 --> 02:12:58,760
Speaker 7: last thing you're thinking about is protect your identification. So

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02:12:58,840 --> 02:13:01,320
Speaker 7: I think that the TSA's comes at a good point

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02:13:01,640 --> 02:13:03,640
Speaker 7: as we're approaching the end of the year with we've

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02:13:03,640 --> 02:13:06,240
Speaker 7: got a lot of people traveling because you simply can't

2543
02:13:06,280 --> 02:13:09,520
Speaker 7: be too careful, and that's something that I think we

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02:13:09,560 --> 02:13:11,640
Speaker 7: can repeat over and over and over again, because you've

2545
02:13:11,640 --> 02:13:14,440
Speaker 7: got to be careful when you're dealing with you know,

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02:13:14,480 --> 02:13:16,160
Speaker 7: trying to protect your identification.

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Speaker 1: All right, Well that's a warning we all need to heed.

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02:13:20,320 --> 02:13:22,480
Speaker 1: So and I think Dave has brought that kind of

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02:13:22,480 --> 02:13:23,360
Speaker 1: thing up before too.

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Speaker 7: So yeah, he's yawning right now because you're so boring

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02:13:27,400 --> 02:13:29,480
Speaker 7: to have. But I like to talk about it because

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Speaker 7: it was. It was a TSA warning and it's just

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Speaker 7: reminding people when you're at the airport, just protect yourself.

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Speaker 1: You're electronic hygiene, so to speak. All Right, I guess

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Speaker 1: some of the Tampa Airport TSA workers are happy.

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Speaker 7: Some Yeah, but I think twenty one of them up

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02:13:47,040 --> 02:13:49,560
Speaker 7: till now they've got a ten thousand dollars bonus for

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02:13:50,200 --> 02:13:53,520
Speaker 7: their their performance during the government shutdown. This is something

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02:13:53,520 --> 02:13:58,480
Speaker 7: that was recommended by their supervisors and others and it

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02:13:58,520 --> 02:14:00,760
Speaker 7: was a nice ten thousand dollars check and others are

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02:14:00,840 --> 02:14:04,120
Speaker 7: looking to get the same. And it's nice because not

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02:14:04,280 --> 02:14:07,320
Speaker 7: one time during that six week period of time did

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02:14:07,360 --> 02:14:11,360
Speaker 7: we talk about too much the letdown of the TSA

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02:14:11,480 --> 02:14:14,280
Speaker 7: checkpoints where you know, there were miles or three mile

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02:14:14,360 --> 02:14:17,280
Speaker 7: long screening lines. Know, most of the focus was on

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Speaker 7: the air traffic controllers. The TSA did their job. I

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02:14:20,480 --> 02:14:23,680
Speaker 7: mean they I don't know how most of us would

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02:14:23,680 --> 02:14:25,440
Speaker 7: be if you showed up for work for six weeks

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02:14:25,440 --> 02:14:27,720
Speaker 7: and you weren't getting paid at that time, and you

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02:14:27,840 --> 02:14:31,080
Speaker 7: still were expected to be as professional and good at

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02:14:31,080 --> 02:14:34,680
Speaker 7: what you do as as you would do normally. I

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02:14:34,720 --> 02:14:35,840
Speaker 7: mean that it's a lot of pressure and a lot

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02:14:35,880 --> 02:14:38,840
Speaker 7: of stress. So the fact that they're getting rewarded, I

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02:14:38,840 --> 02:14:40,880
Speaker 7: think is great and I think I'd love to see

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02:14:40,920 --> 02:14:41,440
Speaker 7: it more often.

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02:14:41,680 --> 02:14:44,320
Speaker 1: Yep, I agree with you on that. Finally, wait a second,

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Speaker 1: good news from Spirit Airlines.

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02:14:46,800 --> 02:14:49,160
Speaker 7: Yeah, they were only three hundred and sixty five pilots off,

2579
02:14:49,200 --> 02:14:51,920
Speaker 7: the latest of a bunch of layoffs. They've decided they

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02:14:51,920 --> 02:14:54,480
Speaker 7: don't need to do that. And I'm thrilled to death

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02:14:54,520 --> 02:14:58,640
Speaker 7: to hear it, because Spirit right now is a good airline,

2582
02:14:58,800 --> 02:15:00,800
Speaker 7: but they're struggling right now now and it's going to

2583
02:15:00,840 --> 02:15:03,200
Speaker 7: take some time for them to regain their footing, and

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02:15:03,320 --> 02:15:05,960
Speaker 7: they're really headed in the right direction, and I hope

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02:15:05,960 --> 02:15:09,600
Speaker 7: that it continues because you want Spirit Airlines to be

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02:15:09,640 --> 02:15:12,280
Speaker 7: around because all the low cost carriers that are out

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02:15:12,280 --> 02:15:15,240
Speaker 7: there helped to keep the faverage fares down. Yes, that's

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02:15:15,240 --> 02:15:17,160
Speaker 7: why when we get a carrier here at CBG. If

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02:15:17,200 --> 02:15:21,200
Speaker 7: it's Frontier Allegiance Southwest, whoever it is, we talk about

2590
02:15:21,480 --> 02:15:24,760
Speaker 7: let's support them. And if it Breeze has got a

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02:15:24,800 --> 02:15:26,480
Speaker 7: great fair to the West coast, and you think, well,

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02:15:26,480 --> 02:15:29,200
Speaker 7: I'm a Delta freaking flyer. They matching the fair, I'll

2593
02:15:29,200 --> 02:15:31,960
Speaker 7: fly Delta. Okay, you do that, But then in six

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02:15:32,000 --> 02:15:33,800
Speaker 7: months when an airline says, you know, we're not getting

2595
02:15:33,800 --> 02:15:36,080
Speaker 7: the loads we thought, we're going to leave, please don't

2596
02:15:36,080 --> 02:15:39,920
Speaker 7: email me because I'll remind you that it's up to us. Well,

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02:15:39,960 --> 02:15:42,000
Speaker 7: that happened with air Tran. Air Tran came in in

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02:15:42,080 --> 02:15:45,200
Speaker 7: nineteen ninety five in February trying to compete with Delta

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02:15:45,240 --> 02:15:49,200
Speaker 7: Airlines with forty nine dollars fares from Cincinnati to Orlando,

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02:15:49,360 --> 02:15:53,880
Speaker 7: please forty nine bucks. The problem was Delta matched the fares,

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02:15:54,320 --> 02:15:56,200
Speaker 7: So are you gonna fly Delta or an air Tran

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02:15:56,280 --> 02:15:58,440
Speaker 7: which maybe you hadn't heard the you know, you didn't

2603
02:15:58,440 --> 02:16:00,160
Speaker 7: know who they were. They were spent off of of

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02:16:00,240 --> 02:16:04,240
Speaker 7: Northwest Massaba Airlines, so it was a great airline. But

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02:16:04,320 --> 02:16:07,760
Speaker 7: the problem was everybody flew Delta. So air Train ran

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02:16:08,080 --> 02:16:10,840
Speaker 7: practically empty flights back and forth to Orlando for a

2607
02:16:10,920 --> 02:16:13,720
Speaker 7: year and a half before they said enough. And the

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02:16:13,720 --> 02:16:17,320
Speaker 7: minute they left, people started complaining about where'd air train go?

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02:16:17,720 --> 02:16:20,040
Speaker 7: Excuse me, I mean, I'll me where they went. They

2610
02:16:20,120 --> 02:16:23,880
Speaker 7: left because of us. But look, the community has done

2611
02:16:23,920 --> 02:16:26,120
Speaker 7: such a great job. Because when Frontier came here with

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02:16:26,160 --> 02:16:28,280
Speaker 7: their one flight of day to Denver, bringing it from

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02:16:28,280 --> 02:16:31,880
Speaker 7: the Dayton Airport, I was pleading, please, this is our

2614
02:16:31,920 --> 02:16:34,680
Speaker 7: opportunity to support because it took a lot of work

2615
02:16:34,720 --> 02:16:36,440
Speaker 7: to get Frontier to come here. This is a place

2616
02:16:36,480 --> 02:16:39,280
Speaker 7: where on where you had low cost carriers came to die.

2617
02:16:39,440 --> 02:16:42,279
Speaker 7: You never bought a low cost carrier in here. Frontier

2618
02:16:42,280 --> 02:16:44,320
Speaker 7: came in here started having success. Here comes a legion

2619
02:16:44,480 --> 02:16:46,760
Speaker 7: all of a sudden Southwest up roots to their entire

2620
02:16:46,840 --> 02:16:49,800
Speaker 7: dating operation, brings them down here. You've got great things happening.

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02:16:49,800 --> 02:16:52,800
Speaker 7: Why because the community is supporting the low cost carriers.

2622
02:16:52,959 --> 02:16:55,039
Speaker 7: I'm preaching to the choir because we've done a great job.

2623
02:16:55,080 --> 02:16:57,320
Speaker 7: But I'm on when I'm on the air around the country,

2624
02:16:57,680 --> 02:16:59,560
Speaker 7: I tell them to do what's what's happening right here?

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02:16:59,600 --> 02:17:02,400
Speaker 7: Since anat Because we've we've got the model and the

2626
02:17:02,440 --> 02:17:04,920
Speaker 7: community is an incredible service.

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02:17:05,000 --> 02:17:08,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's demonstrable success. We were the highest like airport

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02:17:08,640 --> 02:17:10,400
Speaker 1: in the country. In terms of the cost of airfare.

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02:17:10,440 --> 02:17:12,280
Speaker 1: People used to drive the Dayton to get a cheaper

2630
02:17:12,280 --> 02:17:14,080
Speaker 1: flight and then lay over in Cincinnati on the way

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02:17:14,120 --> 02:17:15,040
Speaker 1: to wherever they were going.

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02:17:15,160 --> 02:17:18,200
Speaker 7: They would go anywhere. Well, now Dayton's a ghost town. Yeah,

2633
02:17:18,280 --> 02:17:20,000
Speaker 7: and you come down here and look at the license

2634
02:17:20,000 --> 02:17:22,080
Speaker 7: plates in the barning lot. They're from all over the

2635
02:17:22,120 --> 02:17:24,480
Speaker 7: Tri state area because they're coming here. Look when you

2636
02:17:24,480 --> 02:17:27,840
Speaker 7: can jump on a flight to go to Vegas for

2637
02:17:28,080 --> 02:17:30,000
Speaker 7: you know, one hundred and eighteen bucks round trip, or

2638
02:17:30,120 --> 02:17:32,560
Speaker 7: Orlando for ninety nine dollars on trip. But during certain

2639
02:17:32,560 --> 02:17:36,040
Speaker 7: times of the year you factor in inflation, it's cheaper

2640
02:17:36,040 --> 02:17:37,520
Speaker 7: to fly now than it ever has been in the

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02:17:37,560 --> 02:17:41,360
Speaker 7: history of aviation. That curreribly made possible by low cost carriers.

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02:17:41,400 --> 02:17:44,200
Speaker 1: Support your low cost carrier, Keith from Iowa says he well,

2643
02:17:44,280 --> 02:17:45,840
Speaker 1: he loves you, and Eric wants to know if you

2644
02:17:45,840 --> 02:17:46,879
Speaker 1: have your own podcast.

2645
02:17:47,879 --> 02:17:49,760
Speaker 7: I do not. I've been asked to, have been encouraged,

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02:17:49,800 --> 02:17:52,360
Speaker 7: in fact, by several of our producers to do so.

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02:17:53,040 --> 02:17:55,040
Speaker 7: Sleep is already an interruption of my day. Do you

2648
02:17:55,080 --> 02:17:56,520
Speaker 7: think I'm gonna have time for a podcast?

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02:17:57,600 --> 02:18:01,200
Speaker 1: Listen, you're making fat bank in the markets need that job, Jay,

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02:18:01,240 --> 02:18:02,599
Speaker 1: I understand completely.

2651
02:18:03,320 --> 02:18:05,000
Speaker 7: Can I can I give you the amount that I

2652
02:18:05,080 --> 02:18:08,520
Speaker 7: made in the time we've been talking, go ahead, six

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02:18:09,480 --> 02:18:10,240
Speaker 7: dollars and twenty one.

2654
02:18:10,520 --> 02:18:13,279
Speaker 1: I've been talking to them since eight thirty this morning.

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02:18:13,400 --> 02:18:15,280
Speaker 7: I sent I sent, I sent you screenshot because I

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02:18:15,320 --> 02:18:17,040
Speaker 7: want you to know that we've got a few other

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Speaker 7: stocks that my students and I are looking at as well.

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02:18:18,959 --> 02:18:21,920
Speaker 7: Hopefully they when they make their gains, they leave I come.

2659
02:18:22,040 --> 02:18:24,960
Speaker 7: Just protect your portfolio. Just go enjoy the rest, say

2660
02:18:25,000 --> 02:18:26,959
Speaker 7: opening bells. Not for what thirty four minutes.

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02:18:26,800 --> 02:18:29,240
Speaker 1: Or so, Wow, athlete named day trade fun. That's where

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02:18:29,240 --> 02:18:31,560
Speaker 1: you find Jay had a little plugs, a little plug

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02:18:31,600 --> 02:18:34,520
Speaker 1: for you. Jay. All right, well, hub delays, I guess

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02:18:34,520 --> 02:18:36,280
Speaker 1: I gotta worry about real quick just at a real

2665
02:18:36,360 --> 02:18:36,800
Speaker 1: quick time.

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Speaker 7: Nothing nothing. With apologies to Bizmarck North Dakota. We're in

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02:18:41,000 --> 02:18:41,640
Speaker 7: good shape.

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Speaker 1: Wonderful news, Jay Ratlift, love you man, appreciate you being

2669
02:18:44,360 --> 02:18:46,520
Speaker 1: on the program. We'll talking in next Thursday. Best of

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02:18:46,560 --> 02:18:48,880
Speaker 1: health and love to you and your better half. Man

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Speaker 1: eight fifty six. You didn't get a chance to look