1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,480 Speaker 1: All right, we do have True Crime Tuesday, and it 2 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:06,920 Speaker 1: is current. We've got a twist, a scary, odd twist 3 00:00:06,920 --> 00:00:11,040 Speaker 1: in the disappearance of Today host Savannah Guthrie's eighty four 4 00:00:11,119 --> 00:00:13,239 Speaker 1: year old kidnapp mother. It's where we kick it off. 5 00:00:14,240 --> 00:00:19,880 Speaker 2: The story is true, sounds true, No, it sounds made up. 6 00:00:19,960 --> 00:00:20,400 Speaker 3: I don't know. 7 00:00:22,520 --> 00:00:28,040 Speaker 2: Barry and Shannon present True Crime. This was from TMZ's 8 00:00:28,360 --> 00:00:32,040 Speaker 2: live stream just a short time ago. They said they 9 00:00:32,120 --> 00:00:37,800 Speaker 2: received an unverified ransom note demanding money for the return 10 00:00:38,040 --> 00:00:38,920 Speaker 2: of Nancy Good. 11 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:44,720 Speaker 3: We got something in our email that looks like a 12 00:00:44,960 --> 00:00:48,880 Speaker 3: It's written like a ransom note for Savannah Guthrie's mother specifically, 13 00:00:48,960 --> 00:00:51,920 Speaker 3: and there were very certain amounts of money, very specifically. 14 00:00:52,400 --> 00:00:54,840 Speaker 3: And also they say at the bottom there are certain 15 00:00:54,880 --> 00:00:58,280 Speaker 3: things they're saying about what she was wearing and damage 16 00:00:58,320 --> 00:01:02,200 Speaker 3: to the house that they're clearly saying to verify it. 17 00:01:02,320 --> 00:01:03,880 Speaker 3: It's us. So. 18 00:01:04,040 --> 00:01:08,640 Speaker 1: I was thinking about your question before the break about journalism. 19 00:01:08,720 --> 00:01:12,080 Speaker 1: Question if your TMZ do you announce this, do you 20 00:01:12,120 --> 00:01:14,920 Speaker 1: go live with this? Do you publicize this? And I 21 00:01:14,959 --> 00:01:18,000 Speaker 1: think the question I don't want to put thoughts in 22 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:23,880 Speaker 1: Harvey Levin's mind was answered. However, when there were specifics 23 00:01:23,959 --> 00:01:28,760 Speaker 1: listed in that letter that it differentiated itself from just 24 00:01:28,880 --> 00:01:31,520 Speaker 1: any crackpot that could call her email or just say 25 00:01:31,560 --> 00:01:33,560 Speaker 1: I've got her or what have you. They probably get 26 00:01:33,560 --> 00:01:34,760 Speaker 1: that kind of stuff all the time. 27 00:01:35,200 --> 00:01:37,480 Speaker 2: But if I was I'm not, if I was a 28 00:01:37,480 --> 00:01:40,120 Speaker 2: bad guy, I would have written those things in there 29 00:01:40,160 --> 00:01:44,640 Speaker 2: as well to make it seem like there's no way TMZ. 30 00:01:45,400 --> 00:01:49,040 Speaker 2: I should say there's no I doubt TMZ knows the 31 00:01:49,080 --> 00:01:51,520 Speaker 2: specifics of the condition of the house or what she 32 00:01:51,640 --> 00:01:54,000 Speaker 2: was wearing. They would not be able to verify themselves. 33 00:01:54,040 --> 00:01:56,480 Speaker 2: That's why they wrote this is an unverified thing, but 34 00:01:56,520 --> 00:01:58,240 Speaker 2: they would at that point have to pass it on 35 00:02:00,960 --> 00:02:07,000 Speaker 2: that level of of what's the word detail maybe on 36 00:02:07,040 --> 00:02:10,040 Speaker 2: a ransom note, even if it was fake or I 37 00:02:10,040 --> 00:02:11,959 Speaker 2: should say, if I was going to fake it, I 38 00:02:11,960 --> 00:02:13,799 Speaker 2: would try to put that level of detail in there, 39 00:02:13,880 --> 00:02:15,680 Speaker 2: especially just to get it past TMZ. 40 00:02:16,280 --> 00:02:20,960 Speaker 1: They're saying that this note demands a specific, substantial amount 41 00:02:20,960 --> 00:02:24,760 Speaker 1: of bitcoin. The amount is in the millions, and the 42 00:02:24,800 --> 00:02:30,079 Speaker 1: note demands the cryptocurrency be sent to a specific bitcoin address. 43 00:02:30,639 --> 00:02:34,880 Speaker 1: TMZ has verified that the bitcoin address is real. 44 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:45,080 Speaker 2: Well, then again, if I'm if I'm just trying to 45 00:02:45,080 --> 00:02:47,639 Speaker 2: make money, off of this thing. This is a way 46 00:02:47,639 --> 00:02:48,080 Speaker 2: to do it. 47 00:02:48,160 --> 00:02:51,680 Speaker 1: There is a deadline connected to the alleged ransom and 48 00:02:51,720 --> 00:03:00,360 Speaker 1: the element of an or else. According to TMZ, in 49 00:03:00,440 --> 00:03:04,800 Speaker 1: the moment of they say now, TMZ does in the 50 00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:07,520 Speaker 1: moment of our live stream above what we just played 51 00:03:07,520 --> 00:03:11,320 Speaker 1: for you, Harvey said she was wearing an item mentioned 52 00:03:11,360 --> 00:03:14,120 Speaker 1: in the note. In fact, the note says she was 53 00:03:14,200 --> 00:03:23,480 Speaker 1: not wearing it. So he misspoke apparently, is what they're clarifying. Oh, 54 00:03:23,800 --> 00:03:26,880 Speaker 1: that the item mentioned in the note was something she 55 00:03:26,960 --> 00:03:30,440 Speaker 1: was not wearing. It's got to be something of note otherwise, 56 00:03:30,960 --> 00:03:34,440 Speaker 1: you know. Anyway, Yeah, we'll tell you. There was a 57 00:03:34,480 --> 00:03:38,200 Speaker 1: press conference held an hour or two ago out of 58 00:03:38,240 --> 00:03:41,640 Speaker 1: Pma County, Arizona, there where she went missing. We'll catch 59 00:03:41,720 --> 00:03:43,480 Speaker 1: you up with all the latest. There have been some 60 00:03:43,520 --> 00:03:48,440 Speaker 1: developments today. Blood found in the house, some information about 61 00:03:48,760 --> 00:03:52,640 Speaker 1: the smartwere you know, her pacemaker being hooked up to 62 00:03:52,720 --> 00:03:55,280 Speaker 1: the Apple watched the phone, and some information they were 63 00:03:55,280 --> 00:03:57,520 Speaker 1: able to glean through that as well. We'll get you 64 00:03:57,560 --> 00:04:00,360 Speaker 1: all caught up when we come back True Crime Tuesday, Canes. 65 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:03,880 Speaker 1: We are talking about the latest with the missing mom 66 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:07,920 Speaker 1: of Savannah Guthrie, eighty four years old, we're learning today 67 00:04:08,160 --> 00:04:13,280 Speaker 1: that she was they say, kidnapped from her home. There 68 00:04:13,360 --> 00:04:18,279 Speaker 1: were signs of forest entry, that there was blood found 69 00:04:18,360 --> 00:04:20,599 Speaker 1: in the home, which is why yesterday they were quick 70 00:04:20,640 --> 00:04:23,360 Speaker 1: to call the home a crime scene. We know she's 71 00:04:23,400 --> 00:04:25,960 Speaker 1: eighty four, we know she's sharp as a tack. She's 72 00:04:25,960 --> 00:04:28,359 Speaker 1: been on the Today Show several times, very close with 73 00:04:28,400 --> 00:04:30,920 Speaker 1: her daughter Savannah as well as her other children who 74 00:04:30,960 --> 00:04:35,239 Speaker 1: live locally in the Tucson area. That she cannot walk 75 00:04:35,360 --> 00:04:38,640 Speaker 1: more than fifty yards on her own, so somebody took her. 76 00:04:39,920 --> 00:04:44,159 Speaker 1: I mentioned the wearable tech, the Apple Watch, that was 77 00:04:44,160 --> 00:04:49,880 Speaker 1: connected to her pacemaker that stopped working at about two am. 78 00:04:49,960 --> 00:04:53,000 Speaker 1: So from that we get that she was separated, her 79 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:57,400 Speaker 1: pacemaker in her separated from her phone, her phone while 80 00:04:57,400 --> 00:04:59,279 Speaker 1: at all those things left at the house. 81 00:05:00,200 --> 00:05:04,039 Speaker 2: Yeah. This so the one of the things that has 82 00:05:04,120 --> 00:05:06,880 Speaker 2: not yet come out is any theory that the Sheriff's 83 00:05:06,880 --> 00:05:10,039 Speaker 2: department there in Pima County's working on about why this happened. 84 00:05:11,080 --> 00:05:14,520 Speaker 2: This now let obviously points in a direction of they 85 00:05:14,560 --> 00:05:18,479 Speaker 2: perhaps believe that Savannah Guthrie is worth millions of dollars. 86 00:05:18,520 --> 00:05:20,640 Speaker 2: I mean, she's been working high profile television for a 87 00:05:20,640 --> 00:05:24,920 Speaker 2: long time. So yeah, it's likely that she does have 88 00:05:25,200 --> 00:05:29,000 Speaker 2: plenty of money, or that she's got money, I mean 89 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:33,520 Speaker 2: that she's got a relatively high net worth. But in 90 00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:38,240 Speaker 2: terms of it just seems like this is such a 91 00:05:38,279 --> 00:05:43,000 Speaker 2: weird stretch that she would not be a person that 92 00:05:43,040 --> 00:05:48,000 Speaker 2: would be targeted because she's not as as high profile 93 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:50,800 Speaker 2: as some of the other celebrities that we've seen that 94 00:05:50,880 --> 00:05:54,040 Speaker 2: I mean that just exist. Also, she just seems like 95 00:05:54,080 --> 00:05:57,359 Speaker 2: a nice person, Savannah Guthrie does, and curious as to 96 00:05:57,440 --> 00:05:58,440 Speaker 2: why this would happen. 97 00:05:59,360 --> 00:06:03,120 Speaker 1: Maybe act, maybe her mother is a visible It's not 98 00:06:03,240 --> 00:06:05,560 Speaker 1: every day that these people have their mothers on television 99 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:09,200 Speaker 1: with them. And she's in Tucson. This is an area where, 100 00:06:09,440 --> 00:06:11,760 Speaker 1: you know, homes aren't backed up against each other. There's 101 00:06:11,800 --> 00:06:13,240 Speaker 1: a lot of open space there. 102 00:06:13,400 --> 00:06:15,960 Speaker 2: So if you're thinking about who to target, you target 103 00:06:15,960 --> 00:06:18,440 Speaker 2: someone who's high profile enough that they're going to have money, 104 00:06:19,080 --> 00:06:21,719 Speaker 2: low profile enough that they're not going to have security 105 00:06:21,760 --> 00:06:22,120 Speaker 2: around here. 106 00:06:22,160 --> 00:06:25,760 Speaker 1: You're assuming the person that's kidnapping also goes through all 107 00:06:25,760 --> 00:06:26,799 Speaker 1: these lines of thought. 108 00:06:27,560 --> 00:06:30,160 Speaker 2: Well, how I would if you're putting together a crime 109 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:31,280 Speaker 2: like this, I. 110 00:06:31,279 --> 00:06:33,720 Speaker 1: May may have just been an opportunity. I mean, it 111 00:06:33,760 --> 00:06:36,000 Speaker 1: may not have been thought out or planned out. I 112 00:06:36,080 --> 00:06:40,040 Speaker 1: have no idea. It could be something to get money 113 00:06:40,080 --> 00:06:42,520 Speaker 1: from her or for the network. The other thing is 114 00:06:42,560 --> 00:06:45,200 Speaker 1: the timing is weird. Savannah Guthrie was set to host 115 00:06:45,240 --> 00:06:48,240 Speaker 1: the Olympics starting on Friday. She obviously will not be 116 00:06:48,320 --> 00:06:51,640 Speaker 1: doing that while her mother remains missing. But she has 117 00:06:51,680 --> 00:06:57,359 Speaker 1: this very high profile, globally high profile job that's ahead 118 00:06:57,360 --> 00:07:02,720 Speaker 1: of her in just days. You know there's political reasons 119 00:07:02,839 --> 00:07:05,119 Speaker 1: because anything else is everything else is on the table. 120 00:07:05,160 --> 00:07:08,280 Speaker 1: But to me, I mean, it's Okham's razor, right, it's money. 121 00:07:08,800 --> 00:07:11,080 Speaker 1: But why you would take an eighty four year old 122 00:07:11,120 --> 00:07:15,320 Speaker 1: woman other than for a ransom and to know that 123 00:07:15,360 --> 00:07:18,320 Speaker 1: there's money involved, is to know that her daughter is 124 00:07:18,360 --> 00:07:22,480 Speaker 1: Savannah Guthrie. Unfortunately you cannot separate. 125 00:07:22,040 --> 00:07:26,320 Speaker 2: The two again. The news that came down just about 126 00:07:26,400 --> 00:07:30,360 Speaker 2: an hour ago is the TMZ received this morning. They 127 00:07:30,360 --> 00:07:34,720 Speaker 2: say an unverified ransom note that they have now forwarded 128 00:07:34,760 --> 00:07:38,320 Speaker 2: on to Pima County detectives and the FBI, who is 129 00:07:38,560 --> 00:07:41,560 Speaker 2: also handling this investigation, to try to find out more information.