WEBVTT - Mike Allen Saturday Mid-Day -- 1/10/26 0:00:03.240 --> 0:00:09.360 News Radio seven hundred WLW Mike Allen and Saturday Midday nasty, 0:00:09.520 --> 0:00:14.080 rainy Saturday morning. Well, i'll tell you what it's all 0:00:14.120 --> 0:00:20.320 happening in Minnesota. The big story this week because a 0:00:20.520 --> 0:00:24.520 thirty nine year old mother and teacher, her name was 0:00:24.720 --> 0:00:30.440 Renee Nicole Good, because Ms Good didn't follow the instructions 0:00:30.440 --> 0:00:33.880 of a law enforcement Also, she is now dead tragically, 0:00:34.479 --> 0:00:40.040 and that is truly sad, but not surprising. I mean, 0:00:40.080 --> 0:00:43.960 these people were itching for a fight for the longest time. 0:00:44.520 --> 0:00:47.400 It's like the Vice President said, I'm going to quote 0:00:47.440 --> 0:00:51.080 him directly, it was a tragedy of her own making. 0:00:51.520 --> 0:00:54.960 And that's exactly what it was. And like I said, 0:00:55.000 --> 0:00:59.680 the left's been itching for this for months. And why 0:00:59.800 --> 0:01:04.440 you may ask yourself, why the hatred, why the contempt 0:01:04.480 --> 0:01:12.840 for ice officers they're simply doing their jobs. Why do 0:01:12.880 --> 0:01:17.520 these people continue to advocate for criminals who trespass into 0:01:17.560 --> 0:01:23.039 our country over ordinary citizens like you and I. That's 0:01:23.080 --> 0:01:26.880 something that I just can't figure out. We are citizens, 0:01:27.280 --> 0:01:31.120 they're not, but they're more concerned with them. Here's just 0:01:31.200 --> 0:01:35.479 an example of the type of person that they want 0:01:35.520 --> 0:01:40.800 to protect. These are the libs that you Sanctuary City 0:01:40.880 --> 0:01:44.240 the whole deal. And this is from the ICE website. 0:01:45.080 --> 0:01:49.600 US Immigration and Customs enforcement officers launched the targeted Enforcement 0:01:49.640 --> 0:01:54.680 Operation in Minnesota December thirty first to locate and apprehend 0:01:54.760 --> 0:01:57.680 a dude named Mahad I'm not even gonna try the 0:01:57.720 --> 0:02:05.200 middle name yousef. Illegal alien and convicted sex offender from Somaliam, 0:02:05.880 --> 0:02:10.880 but thanks to the sanctuary pract policies of Minnesota Governor 0:02:10.919 --> 0:02:15.080 Tim Waltz, assumed to be out the program. Governor Tim 0:02:15.120 --> 0:02:19.080 Waltz and this guy, he's getting on my last nerve 0:02:19.600 --> 0:02:24.480 Mayor Jacob Fry. This dan criminal was free to prowl 0:02:24.480 --> 0:02:29.880 the streets and victimize Minneapolis residents for years, and you 0:02:29.880 --> 0:02:32.040 know those are the people that they're concerned about. 0:02:32.560 --> 0:02:32.839 I mean. 0:02:32.919 --> 0:02:37.600 In addition, he committed a series of horrific crimes, including 0:02:37.639 --> 0:02:41.800 a conviction for criminal sexual conduct in the first degree, 0:02:42.000 --> 0:02:45.120 where he forced his victim to perform oral sex on 0:02:45.240 --> 0:02:50.200 him multiple times. He was also arrested in twenty sixteen 0:02:50.600 --> 0:02:54.080 for assaulting the first degree and has an active warrant 0:02:54.360 --> 0:02:59.519 from twenty twenty four to four obstructing police. Now again, 0:03:00.320 --> 0:03:05.600 why are we protecting this guy at the expense of 0:03:05.800 --> 0:03:06.919 ordinary citizens? 0:03:07.560 --> 0:03:12.079 I mean, why is he more important than us? 0:03:13.880 --> 0:03:18.040 I think a little civics lesson is in order here. 0:03:18.880 --> 0:03:22.760 You know, entering our country illegally, as we know, it's 0:03:22.800 --> 0:03:25.560 a crime. And I'll tell you exactly what crime it is. 0:03:26.120 --> 0:03:30.679 Eighteen United States Code thirteen twenty five. It's one of 0:03:30.720 --> 0:03:35.040 the rare federal statutes that's pretty damn simple. Basically, it 0:03:35.120 --> 0:03:39.440 prohibits entering the US at any time or place other 0:03:39.560 --> 0:03:45.800 than as designated by immigration officers. And although they don't 0:03:45.840 --> 0:03:49.680 call it this, it's a trespass into our country. Pretty simple, 0:03:50.800 --> 0:03:55.400 one would think that. Well, continuing on the civics lessons here, 0:03:55.760 --> 0:04:01.400 Congress enacted that law eighteen USC. Thirteen to twenty back 0:04:01.440 --> 0:04:03.800 in nineteen fifty two, and they did it to keep 0:04:03.840 --> 0:04:07.960 people who did not want to become citizens the right way, 0:04:08.280 --> 0:04:11.200 to keep them the hell out of here. So again, 0:04:11.200 --> 0:04:15.520 it's been round since nineteen fifty two. So Congress in 0:04:15.640 --> 0:04:20.239 that year, made up then of Republicans and Democrats, as always, 0:04:20.960 --> 0:04:26.680 passed this legislation. Well, continuing in the civics lesson, the 0:04:26.760 --> 0:04:30.680 next question is who is going to enforce that statue 0:04:30.800 --> 0:04:35.080 that I just read. Of course it's ice it is 0:04:35.200 --> 0:04:39.760 their job, not just their job but their sworn duty 0:04:40.400 --> 0:04:43.640 to enforce federal law, and that's what they do, or 0:04:43.680 --> 0:04:44.599 at least try to do. 0:04:46.080 --> 0:04:48.720 And if the Democrats and the looney left. 0:04:48.480 --> 0:04:52.320 Don't like it, it's just like the Second Amendment, change it, 0:04:52.680 --> 0:04:56.760 change the law, repeal it, and just what the hell 0:04:56.839 --> 0:04:59.320 let everybody in. If they don't like the law, they 0:04:59.400 --> 0:05:03.159 can change it. Congress passed it, they can change it. 0:05:03.520 --> 0:05:05.479 But they don't want to do that because they know 0:05:05.600 --> 0:05:08.839 they won't get the votes needed. Again, just like the 0:05:08.920 --> 0:05:12.840 Second Amendment, repeal it. If you don't like it, good 0:05:12.960 --> 0:05:16.680 luck with that too. So ICE agents are demonized for 0:05:16.800 --> 0:05:20.320 the simple act of doing their job or doing the 0:05:20.520 --> 0:05:25.280 job Congress commands them to do by eighteen United States 0:05:25.320 --> 0:05:36.880 Code thirteen to twenty five. Instead, they're called Nazis, neo Nazis, Gestapo, racist, kidnappers, thugs. 0:05:37.320 --> 0:05:40.600 And here's one that I just found out about the 0:05:40.640 --> 0:05:46.159 other day that they're called slave members of the slave patrol. 0:05:46.800 --> 0:05:47.640 Isn't that nice? 0:05:49.320 --> 0:05:53.200 So you get members of Congress like Senator Chucky Schumer 0:05:53.279 --> 0:05:55.479 last week saying that I'm quoting him here. 0:05:55.720 --> 0:06:00.920 Ice causes death, ice death. 0:06:02.120 --> 0:06:04.359 You know, while people like you and I, you know, 0:06:04.400 --> 0:06:08.279 we're out working you got the pink haired, nose ring 0:06:08.360 --> 0:06:13.920 wearing crowd who all men and women, they all look 0:06:14.040 --> 0:06:18.599 like Marge Simpson to me, ended out doing their protest thing. 0:06:19.760 --> 0:06:23.400 And this week one of them said they were in 0:06:23.400 --> 0:06:26.680 an argument with somebody, and it must have been an 0:06:26.680 --> 0:06:29.159 ice officer said, well, you're gonna have to leave or whatever. 0:06:29.400 --> 0:06:33.760 She says, I'm working here, which I mean to me 0:06:33.880 --> 0:06:37.080 means she's getting paid. And that's what you got now. 0:06:37.320 --> 0:06:39.520 You know, when all the signs, not all of them, 0:06:39.560 --> 0:06:43.720 but many of the signs look exactly the same, somebody 0:06:44.040 --> 0:06:50.640 is paying for it. Everything on the left is performative. 0:06:51.440 --> 0:06:56.320 They sing their silly little songs, chant their infantile slogans 0:06:56.680 --> 0:07:01.719 with no substance whatsoever. I got a clip and I 0:07:01.760 --> 0:07:04.960 will not make you listen to it very long. Just 0:07:05.440 --> 0:07:09.440 a typical kind of democrat leftist hoot nanny at. 0:07:09.800 --> 0:07:12.800 I think this one was Minnesota. Could you play that please? 0:07:27.680 --> 0:07:28.120 All right? 0:07:28.160 --> 0:07:32.800 That's enough, you get it. You know they love that song. 0:07:32.920 --> 0:07:36.320 But think about it. This land is your land, and 0:07:36.440 --> 0:07:40.120 if they're singing it to me, damn straight, it's my land. 0:07:41.040 --> 0:07:45.160 And if the person singing it saying this land is 0:07:45.240 --> 0:07:49.800 my land is the United States citizen. Fine, but it's 0:07:49.880 --> 0:07:54.640 not the land of illegal aliens. They are not supposed 0:07:54.680 --> 0:08:00.600 to be there. You know, you have about half of 0:08:00.680 --> 0:08:04.920 the elected leaders saying basically screw you. 0:08:05.480 --> 0:08:06.360 To us. 0:08:07.640 --> 0:08:11.560 And to the trespassers, we love you and we'll protect 0:08:11.600 --> 0:08:17.600 you because he's even though you snuck into our country. 0:08:18.160 --> 0:08:21.120 Kind of perplexes you, doesn't it at least it does me. 0:08:21.600 --> 0:08:25.480 And I'm telling you what, it's getting old. It really is. 0:08:26.600 --> 0:08:29.600 I mean, Trump, he cleaned up the mess that Biden 0:08:29.680 --> 0:08:32.000 left behind. I don't know how many hundreds of thousands 0:08:32.000 --> 0:08:35.280 of people he's gotten the hell out of there. He's 0:08:35.280 --> 0:08:36.640 got a hell of a lot more to go. 0:08:37.720 --> 0:08:37.920 You know. 0:08:38.000 --> 0:08:40.720 Another thing that honked me off and bought And I 0:08:40.720 --> 0:08:44.480 don't think I'm the only one this situation with the 0:08:44.520 --> 0:08:49.679 city of Cincinnati wanting to pay out a possible settlement 0:08:50.920 --> 0:08:54.560 for the family of eighteen year old Ryan Hinton. 0:08:55.480 --> 0:08:59.839 He's the guy that was shot in a police. 0:09:01.280 --> 0:09:04.600 Not a shootout, but they all had guns there. He 0:09:04.720 --> 0:09:09.520 came around, I guess besides a dumpster. Clearly from the video, 0:09:10.760 --> 0:09:13.680 he kind of pointed the gun at the cop and 0:09:14.040 --> 0:09:17.920 he lost his life for that. And again, it's not 0:09:18.120 --> 0:09:21.800 good when that happens to anybody. But again he put 0:09:21.920 --> 0:09:26.760 himself in that position. But the big brew haha this week, 0:09:27.320 --> 0:09:35.080 council wants to pay for that justifiable shooting or justified shooting. 0:09:35.520 --> 0:09:39.560 County pillach Our County prosecutor, I think wisely said that 0:09:39.760 --> 0:09:45.600 this is a legitimate police shooting. It's legal. You know, 0:09:46.520 --> 0:09:49.440 you had some on counsel though, and I gotta hand 0:09:49.520 --> 0:09:53.720 it to him. Jeff Kramerning has won. He said, I 0:09:53.720 --> 0:09:56.240 think the city's position is that the officer has not 0:09:56.400 --> 0:10:01.920 done anything wrong. Thank you so much, council Member Kramerding. 0:10:02.920 --> 0:10:06.320 I see nothing in the video contrary to that. I 0:10:06.400 --> 0:10:10.080 do not feel a settlement is warranted. I think that 0:10:10.120 --> 0:10:14.360 would send the wrong message to the Cincinnati police. And 0:10:14.440 --> 0:10:18.840 you know, really that statement from him is really important. 0:10:19.760 --> 0:10:22.920 There is another council member who's of the same ILK. 0:10:22.920 --> 0:10:24.440 I'm gonna tell you about him in a minute, but 0:10:25.000 --> 0:10:28.760 I commend Jeff Kramerding for that. He's going to catch 0:10:28.840 --> 0:10:32.679 all kinds of crap from his fellow council members and 0:10:33.040 --> 0:10:36.320 some of his constituents, but he took a position. 0:10:37.440 --> 0:10:40.560 Okay, Seth Walsh, he's another one. 0:10:40.640 --> 0:10:43.600 I met him a couple of weeks ago, pretty impressive 0:10:43.640 --> 0:10:48.920 young man. Here's what he said. He called the situation abhorrent. 0:10:49.600 --> 0:10:52.599 He talked to the inquirer and he said the community 0:10:52.800 --> 0:10:56.679 is owed an explanation about why the settlement with the 0:10:56.760 --> 0:11:00.920 Hitting family is even on the table and why deliberated 0:11:01.080 --> 0:11:05.880 apparently without Council's knowledge behind closed doors. Here's what council 0:11:05.920 --> 0:11:10.640 Member Wall said, quote, it's a tremendous disrespect to the 0:11:10.720 --> 0:11:14.640 families involved, and to make a public spectacle out of 0:11:14.640 --> 0:11:15.359 a tragedy. 0:11:15.679 --> 0:11:17.320 Oh, the left is real good at that. 0:11:17.520 --> 0:11:21.720 Council member, I think it is unconsonable for the City 0:11:21.720 --> 0:11:24.600 of Cincinnati to be considering a settlement. 0:11:24.480 --> 0:11:26.640 Without the full deliberation of council. 0:11:27.440 --> 0:11:31.480 The tragedy that unfolded in made devastated our community, and 0:11:31.520 --> 0:11:35.160 it is our responsibility to heal the wreckage. 0:11:35.160 --> 0:11:37.120 Not to create more division. 0:11:37.520 --> 0:11:40.840 You know what that statement, if there were any Republicans 0:11:40.840 --> 0:11:45.200 on council, could have come from a Republican. And again, 0:11:45.520 --> 0:11:48.240 I met him a couple of weeks ago at some event, 0:11:48.400 --> 0:11:53.119 and an impressive young man who obviously thinks for himself, 0:11:53.679 --> 0:11:56.160 so he got to at least sticking up for the cops. 0:11:56.200 --> 0:12:00.400 But and I was interviewed yesterday on the legal end 0:12:00.400 --> 0:12:03.360 of this thing. By Fox nineteen. I mean, here's the deal. 0:12:04.600 --> 0:12:11.160 Sometimes municipalities and companies whatever, will throw some money at 0:12:11.360 --> 0:12:16.400 somebody to get out of them, get around them filing 0:12:16.400 --> 0:12:20.520 a lawsuit. It's called a nuisance settlement. Something tells me 0:12:20.880 --> 0:12:24.960 they ain't talking nuisance settlement on this, and that's beside 0:12:25.000 --> 0:12:28.480 the point. And these two council members hit it right 0:12:28.720 --> 0:12:32.440 on the head. They hit the nail right on the head. 0:12:32.760 --> 0:12:38.240 You can't do that. You can't put that on the cops. Look, 0:12:38.920 --> 0:12:42.320 I did it. I was in this position. Connie Pillich 0:12:42.400 --> 0:12:44.560 made the right call. And it's one of the toughest 0:12:44.600 --> 0:12:48.960 things a prosecutor has to do, and that is that 0:12:48.960 --> 0:12:54.839 that shooting was constitutionally justified. Why in God's name the 0:12:54.880 --> 0:12:59.360 city of Cincinnati is ready willing and able apparently to 0:12:59.720 --> 0:13:02.240 h oh open up the vault down there on Plum 0:13:02.360 --> 0:13:05.160 Street and pour money out is beyond me. 0:13:06.240 --> 0:13:07.160 Well, I know why. 0:13:07.240 --> 0:13:11.480 I mean, you know, the majority of counsel wants to 0:13:11.520 --> 0:13:16.640 appease a certain constituency. Hey, at eleven thirty today, we've 0:13:16.640 --> 0:13:20.480 got FOP President Ken kober Uh, We're gonna give me 0:13:20.760 --> 0:13:23.559 get him on the line to talk about this and boy, 0:13:23.640 --> 0:13:26.079 he is worked up about it. And I don't blame him. 0:13:26.800 --> 0:13:30.280 You know, the city gives out money like it's freaking candy. 0:13:31.120 --> 0:13:34.720 You know, they got they got bopped on the fire chief. 0:13:35.080 --> 0:13:38.079 They're gonna get if at the end of the day, 0:13:38.440 --> 0:13:41.880 if a chief Thiji does not keep her job, they're 0:13:41.880 --> 0:13:45.640 gonna have to roll the Brinks truck up to Plumb 0:13:45.640 --> 0:13:47.800 Street down there at City Hall because she's gonna hit 0:13:47.840 --> 0:13:51.880 the jackpot. But she and her family and I and 0:13:51.920 --> 0:13:54.760 I think a lot of other people want her to 0:13:54.800 --> 0:13:59.840 continue to be the police chief. Apparently, what happened the 0:14:00.040 --> 0:14:07.040 law firm that the city hired Frost Brown Todd. Apparently 0:14:07.080 --> 0:14:11.880 they said, well, we didn't find anything, and so the 0:14:12.040 --> 0:14:14.640 city managers said, well get out there. You got another month, 0:14:14.679 --> 0:14:16.959 you got till February. See what you can do. That 0:14:17.200 --> 0:14:21.280 is just outrageous, it really, but it's typical for the 0:14:21.320 --> 0:14:25.200 city and the left hand never seems to know what 0:14:25.360 --> 0:14:29.360 the right hand is doing with these people. But you know, 0:14:29.400 --> 0:14:32.720 I just want to read one quote from Ken Kober 0:14:32.760 --> 0:14:34.960 and again we're going to have him at eleven thirty. 0:14:35.720 --> 0:14:38.119 This is what he said talking about this whole situation 0:14:38.280 --> 0:14:41.960 with paying the hinting family. This is an absolute outrage. 0:14:42.880 --> 0:14:47.200 Crime literally pays in Cincinnati under this city manager. It's 0:14:47.240 --> 0:14:51.000 a slap in the face to every law enforcement officer 0:14:51.520 --> 0:14:55.480 risking their lives, a betrayal of the public trust, and 0:14:55.520 --> 0:15:01.200 a disgusting messages that's that targeting cops has no consequences. 0:15:01.760 --> 0:15:05.840 And he is so right, he's so right about that. 0:15:06.480 --> 0:15:10.320 You just you can't do this, and you know, I mean, 0:15:10.560 --> 0:15:15.520 obviously it wasn't him, but his father the very next 0:15:15.640 --> 0:15:21.880 day killed a police officer brutally with his vehicle, killed 0:15:21.880 --> 0:15:27.880 a police officer, and the city wants to reward this family. No, no, 0:15:28.160 --> 0:15:31.120 I don't think so. They're going to bring down the 0:15:31.200 --> 0:15:35.600 FOP and others. These two council members that have the 0:15:35.640 --> 0:15:39.800 stones to do the right thing, council Member Walsh and Kramerding. 0:15:40.200 --> 0:15:41.880 I'll tell you they're going to bring a you know 0:15:41.960 --> 0:15:45.120 what storm down on the city if the city forks 0:15:45.200 --> 0:15:48.200 over anything. And they're trying to do it in secret 0:15:48.280 --> 0:15:52.000 to which is something the city's getting pretty darn good at. 0:15:52.920 --> 0:15:55.160 But again we'll talk to Ken. I'm gonna ask him 0:15:55.160 --> 0:15:55.640 about that. 0:15:55.760 --> 0:15:59.520 He is, from what you're ready here, obviously honked off 0:15:59.560 --> 0:16:02.120 about it and I don't blame them. 0:16:02.720 --> 0:16:04.520 Well, I'll tell you what. And we talk about this 0:16:04.600 --> 0:16:04.880 a lot. 0:16:05.000 --> 0:16:08.360 It's a tough, tough time to be a police officer, 0:16:09.120 --> 0:16:11.760 especially in a big city like the city of Cincinnati. 0:16:12.320 --> 0:16:14.640 I don't know that I would do it if I 0:16:14.680 --> 0:16:18.200 had it to do all over again in today's time. 0:16:18.760 --> 0:16:20.320 It's just it's not the same. 0:16:20.960 --> 0:16:24.680 They don't have the officers back, and the officers know that, 0:16:25.360 --> 0:16:28.040 and that's why they're not getting aggressive. 0:16:28.080 --> 0:16:30.800 We've been over that a thousand times. 0:16:31.520 --> 0:16:34.240 Well, anyway, I'm losing my voice here, but we do 0:16:34.400 --> 0:16:36.640 have to take a break for the news and I'll 0:16:36.680 --> 0:16:37.240 get some water. 0:16:37.320 --> 0:16:39.200 I'll be okay, Mike Allen. 0:16:39.400 --> 0:16:46.040 Saturday Reds fans, get your tickets now for Reds Fest. Hey, 0:16:46.120 --> 0:16:47.560 just to kind of give you an idea of the 0:16:47.600 --> 0:16:50.320 show today. I'm going to get to the calls here 0:16:50.320 --> 0:16:53.480 in just a second. At ten o'clock, though, Jameis Heisel 0:16:53.560 --> 0:16:57.800 of the Epoch Times, she filed three counting three stories 0:16:58.440 --> 0:17:02.080 on the fraud scandal in Minnesota. She's all over that, 0:17:02.360 --> 0:17:06.280 like the proverbial white on. Rice Channis is going to 0:17:06.359 --> 0:17:11.520 update us on that at ten o'clock, then from ten 0:17:11.680 --> 0:17:15.480 thirty all the way to eleven thirty open lines, full 0:17:15.600 --> 0:17:19.760 hour of open lines, seven four nine, seven, one, eight hundred, 0:17:19.760 --> 0:17:22.800 the big one. Those are the numbers to call if 0:17:22.840 --> 0:17:24.639 you want to be a part. And then at eleven 0:17:24.680 --> 0:17:28.399 thirty I'm looking forward to this. Ken kober Fop Lodge 0:17:28.440 --> 0:17:32.720 sixty nine President on the nonsense going on was settling 0:17:33.200 --> 0:17:36.640 with the Hinton family, settling for what. I don't know, 0:17:36.720 --> 0:17:38.679 but we're going to talk to Ken about that. But 0:17:38.800 --> 0:17:42.400 for now, let's get to the phones. Louise, she's been 0:17:42.440 --> 0:17:44.560 on the hold I think before I even started today. 0:17:44.680 --> 0:17:46.160 Hey Louise, how you doing? 0:17:47.040 --> 0:17:47.600 Hi? Mike. 0:17:48.160 --> 0:17:51.280 I'm really anxious to talk today because even before this 0:17:51.560 --> 0:17:54.760 recent thing came out with Hinton's wanting a big hand 0:17:54.840 --> 0:17:58.399 out here, earlier in the week, they came out with 0:17:58.560 --> 0:18:02.639 the story that this man I don't even want to 0:18:02.640 --> 0:18:04.600 say his name because it would be a bail word 0:18:04.680 --> 0:18:08.119 right now, but anyway that they sent to him, the 0:18:08.160 --> 0:18:12.439 three shrinks who said he was came up with some 0:18:12.600 --> 0:18:18.560 fake mental case to try to, you know, lessen his sentence. Now, 0:18:18.600 --> 0:18:21.120 the thing that the media is leaving out I want 0:18:21.200 --> 0:18:25.199 your listeners to take note of this. The media is 0:18:25.240 --> 0:18:28.000 in no way when they're talking about this story, the 0:18:28.080 --> 0:18:31.560 media is leaving out the part that his delinquent son 0:18:31.680 --> 0:18:33.960 and I know earlier in the show, Mike, you're saying 0:18:34.040 --> 0:18:35.280 that kid was eighteen. 0:18:35.640 --> 0:18:36.360 I'm thinking that. 0:18:36.400 --> 0:18:39.840 Kid was fourteen. First of all, he stole the car. 0:18:40.000 --> 0:18:43.719 Don't forget this kid stole a vehicle. Then when the 0:18:43.760 --> 0:18:47.159 cops caught up with him, he tried to, you know, 0:18:47.200 --> 0:18:50.840 attack the cop. The cop was totally justifiable in that case. 0:18:53.560 --> 0:18:56.680 The prosecutor rolled that. So they're leaving out that part 0:18:56.720 --> 0:18:59.600 of the story. When they're talking about this guy, they 0:18:59.640 --> 0:19:03.040 send some fake shrinks and I hope they're all listening 0:19:03.080 --> 0:19:05.520 to because they're a bunch of fakes. And I had 0:19:05.520 --> 0:19:11.159 called into your show when this idiot ran over mister Henderson. 0:19:11.240 --> 0:19:15.280 Let's not forget the Henderson family. Let's not forget the 0:19:15.320 --> 0:19:16.199 Henderson family. 0:19:16.240 --> 0:19:17.679 I called into your show. 0:19:17.880 --> 0:19:22.240 The following week because that was the UC graduation. Were 0:19:22.320 --> 0:19:26.560 all these cops and this idiot passed by dozens of 0:19:26.680 --> 0:19:32.320 black cops and he attacked the white officer Henderson. And 0:19:32.880 --> 0:19:37.400 these fake shrinks that are calling this guy mentally unstable, 0:19:38.280 --> 0:19:40.879 I want them to add to that he's a racist. 0:19:41.240 --> 0:19:44.960 He passed by a bunch of black cops to attack 0:19:45.680 --> 0:19:49.480 officer White, Officer Henderson. So I want your listeners to 0:19:49.600 --> 0:19:53.680 realize that this is a two part story. This delinquent 0:19:53.800 --> 0:19:57.399 kids stole a car. And if mister Hinton's listening, what 0:19:57.560 --> 0:19:59.800 the hell kind of father is he that he raised 0:19:59.840 --> 0:20:03.760 the kid that he was fourteen? Mike, I'm almost positive 0:20:03.840 --> 0:20:05.399 this kid was fourteen, and I'm. 0:20:05.240 --> 0:20:07.640 Gonna double check. You may be right about that. I'll 0:20:07.680 --> 0:20:08.480 double check. 0:20:08.320 --> 0:20:11.760 It, right, So let everyone know there's a two parts 0:20:11.800 --> 0:20:15.359 to this story, and this idiot is a racist on 0:20:15.440 --> 0:20:17.320 top of being a horrible father. 0:20:17.600 --> 0:20:18.640 That's all I got to say. 0:20:19.200 --> 0:20:21.800 And that's plenty. Luise, thank you so much for that call. 0:20:22.240 --> 0:20:26.080 Appreciate it. Yeah, I mean, I don't know. Maybe somebody 0:20:26.119 --> 0:20:28.320 can call and tell me how it makes sense to 0:20:28.359 --> 0:20:32.280 pay that family. You're welcome to drive you want. Let's 0:20:32.320 --> 0:20:35.040 talk to doctor Dennis in Annapolis. He wants to talk 0:20:35.080 --> 0:20:37.120 about Minnesota. Hey, good morning, Doc. 0:20:39.000 --> 0:20:42.679 Morning Mike. I would just want to make two points 0:20:42.760 --> 0:20:50.200 about this situation in Minneapolis and the ice state officer. One, 0:20:51.520 --> 0:20:55.640 if this if this woman that was in the vehicle 0:20:55.800 --> 0:21:02.639 that that got shot, Yeah, her relatives standing around the 0:21:02.760 --> 0:21:06.720 vehicle like as close as the Ice agents were. You 0:21:06.760 --> 0:21:09.240 can bet she'd have been more careful about moving the 0:21:09.320 --> 0:21:13.200 vehicle at all until they were away from they you know, 0:21:13.320 --> 0:21:16.280 their relatives were away from the vehicle. Ye, she would 0:21:16.320 --> 0:21:18.120 have not. He would have made sure they were safely 0:21:18.160 --> 0:21:22.439 away before she even you know, moved an inch right, right, 0:21:22.520 --> 0:21:24.879 and the other point I want to right, and the 0:21:25.080 --> 0:21:27.439 and the other. Yeah, she had no regard for the 0:21:27.480 --> 0:21:32.280 safety of the ice ice officers. And the other point 0:21:32.320 --> 0:21:35.199 I want to make is, you know this, these uh 0:21:35.480 --> 0:21:39.960 leftist protesters there, they all they and this has been 0:21:39.960 --> 0:21:44.160 probably made on other news programs, but they really wanted 0:21:44.240 --> 0:21:48.280 something to happen like what happened with this Renee Good. 0:21:48.480 --> 0:21:49.280 I agree with you. 0:21:49.560 --> 0:21:53.560 They Yeah, they needed a martyr. And the whole situations 0:21:53.640 --> 0:21:56.560 ginned up by the you know, the mayor and the 0:21:57.320 --> 0:22:01.800 walls and uh so I they're playing the game. I've 0:22:01.920 --> 0:22:09.879 called it, the leftist protester Russian roulette, and they hope 0:22:09.920 --> 0:22:13.320 that it happened something as shooting or something, but it 0:22:14.160 --> 0:22:18.240 just doesn't happen to them in them personally, you see, 0:22:18.400 --> 0:22:20.440 no I a protest about. 0:22:20.160 --> 0:22:24.159 It, and you know I heard one this week was 0:22:24.240 --> 0:22:27.560 being interviewed getting into it with a reporter probably a 0:22:27.560 --> 0:22:30.679 Fox reporter, and I mean something was said along the 0:22:30.680 --> 0:22:32.240 lines of a why are you here? 0:22:32.640 --> 0:22:34.640 Her response, I'm working. 0:22:35.440 --> 0:22:38.399 And again, if you look at it, a lot of 0:22:38.440 --> 0:22:42.400 them were carrying the exact same signs, which means, yeah, 0:22:42.440 --> 0:22:43.760 they don't do that for free. 0:22:44.240 --> 0:22:46.359 So I smelled George Soros in it. 0:22:47.920 --> 0:22:51.440 Of course, of course I read just finally I read 0:22:51.480 --> 0:22:55.000 something funny last night. There's a big reason the loon 0:22:55.280 --> 0:22:58.040 is the bird of the state bird of Minnesota. 0:22:58.560 --> 0:23:02.880 I didn't know that. That's good. I appreciate that. Thank 0:23:02.920 --> 0:23:06.919 you for filling a suit. Okay, boy, I tell you what. 0:23:07.119 --> 0:23:12.040 Some things are just absolutely appropriate, the loon being the 0:23:12.080 --> 0:23:16.480 state bird for Minnesota. I don't know what those people 0:23:16.520 --> 0:23:20.520 are thinking, man. I mean it's on so many levels. 0:23:20.560 --> 0:23:23.320 I mean, you got the treatment of the ice officers, 0:23:23.720 --> 0:23:27.360 then you have this rampant, absolute wait to hear Janis 0:23:27.600 --> 0:23:31.640 give us an update, just rampant fraud up there that 0:23:32.160 --> 0:23:36.520 people's governor and attorney general seemed to know about but 0:23:36.600 --> 0:23:41.480 did nothing because they didn't want to be called racist. 0:23:41.960 --> 0:23:43.960 They didn't want to be are you ready for this 0:23:44.920 --> 0:23:49.600 called an islamophobe? Boy, how bad would that be? And 0:23:49.640 --> 0:23:52.239 the same thing with their local media up there. They 0:23:52.359 --> 0:23:55.119 ignored it too. I mean, it's it's the way of 0:23:55.200 --> 0:24:00.800 the world, unfortunately this time in history. Who's been on longest? 0:24:01.119 --> 0:24:07.040 Let me talk to Berry in Miamisburg. Hello, Berry, good morning. 0:24:07.119 --> 0:24:08.040 How's it going, sir? 0:24:08.200 --> 0:24:09.320 Pretty good? How about you? 0:24:10.880 --> 0:24:11.400 Pretty good? 0:24:11.920 --> 0:24:16.480 I have a legal question for you. I was, Yeah, 0:24:17.320 --> 0:24:21.719 someone who lives in Cincinnati could sue the city of 0:24:21.720 --> 0:24:24.720 Cincinnati to prevent that massive payout. 0:24:25.359 --> 0:24:25.840 You know what? 0:24:26.359 --> 0:24:28.560 And I saw that's what you wanted to talk about. 0:24:28.640 --> 0:24:32.240 I was thinking about it. There is provision I believe, 0:24:32.920 --> 0:24:38.000 for a taxpayer lawsuit against the municipality. But you know, 0:24:38.359 --> 0:24:41.560 during the break, if I can, I got my trustee 0:24:41.560 --> 0:24:44.399 Google here, I'll see what I can find out there. 0:24:44.440 --> 0:24:48.480 There might be, but I just don't know for certain. 0:24:48.560 --> 0:24:48.879 Berry. 0:24:50.040 --> 0:24:52.119 You know, I live in another part of the state, 0:24:52.240 --> 0:24:55.720 so I have no standing. But I was wondering if 0:24:55.720 --> 0:24:56.840 somebody could do that. 0:24:58.000 --> 0:25:02.480 Well, he it's if somebody can do it, I think 0:25:02.520 --> 0:25:06.240 they will do it if the city persists, because I mean, 0:25:06.359 --> 0:25:11.359 this just HiT's normal people, normies like us, the wrong way. 0:25:11.440 --> 0:25:11.640 Man. 0:25:12.240 --> 0:25:16.479 I mean, giving that family money after what happened is 0:25:16.560 --> 0:25:17.560 just bull crap. 0:25:20.640 --> 0:25:24.320 That and giving those protesters money, Ah. 0:25:25.520 --> 0:25:27.960 Yeah, talk to mister Soros about that. 0:25:29.840 --> 0:25:34.320 Take your pick. You know, the city ought to prevent 0:25:34.400 --> 0:25:35.240 that from happening. 0:25:35.960 --> 0:25:38.679 Well, you know what, and like I said, when I 0:25:38.720 --> 0:25:41.320 saw that, I was thinking about it. I'm gonna on 0:25:41.400 --> 0:25:43.399 a break. I'll double check and see what I can 0:25:43.440 --> 0:25:46.600 find out. But it's a very good, very timely and 0:25:46.640 --> 0:25:47.639 appropriate question. 0:25:48.960 --> 0:25:51.160 All right, Well, thank you, sir, and have a nice. 0:25:51.000 --> 0:25:55.680 Say Okay, thank you. All right, let's talk to Ransom 0:25:55.800 --> 0:25:58.720 up in Columbus. Hey, good morning, how you doing. 0:26:00.080 --> 0:26:03.440 You're more in Mike Kids always I love your programs 0:26:03.520 --> 0:26:08.400 and I'm I'm I'm sort of like incognito, your reporter 0:26:08.520 --> 0:26:11.960 from the Columbus area, connecting Cincinnati of. 0:26:12.080 --> 0:26:15.879 This every week, you know. So basically, I wanted to 0:26:15.880 --> 0:26:19.359 give your listeners a little history about you know, you 0:26:19.400 --> 0:26:21.399 know of all, you know, all of a sudden, Columbus, 0:26:21.440 --> 0:26:25.359 Ohio pops out the news about why we have so 0:26:25.400 --> 0:26:30.320 many Somalians. We have they're guestimating somewhere between forty and 0:26:30.440 --> 0:26:35.200 sixty thousand Somalians. So how did that happen to Columbus, Ohio. Well, 0:26:35.560 --> 0:26:38.439 we've had two Democratic mayors. It's all started with a guy. 0:26:38.359 --> 0:26:39.760 Named Mike Coleman. 0:26:40.240 --> 0:26:43.800 About going to it, probably about twenty five years ago. 0:26:44.359 --> 0:26:47.440 So the deal was, he comes up with this idea, 0:26:48.160 --> 0:26:51.800 we need to bring more people into Columbus to make 0:26:51.840 --> 0:26:56.800 it more you know, socially and culturally diverse, and even 0:26:57.440 --> 0:26:59.480 all the de Ice cuff was happening back in the 0:26:59.680 --> 0:27:02.439 twenty five years ago. So but the other thing is, 0:27:02.480 --> 0:27:05.879 and as you know most Democrats, what they're looking for 0:27:05.960 --> 0:27:09.160 is they're looking for the hidden the hidden candy, which 0:27:09.280 --> 0:27:12.800 was federal dollars. So it's been estimated that he was 0:27:12.840 --> 0:27:17.000 getting somewhere between eighteen hundred and thirty five thousand dollars 0:27:17.040 --> 0:27:19.800 of a person from Somalia to bring them in. So 0:27:19.880 --> 0:27:25.480 that's how basically we've grown into a large SMO community 0:27:25.680 --> 0:27:31.040 second to Minnesota. Here's here's the issue. This seems to 0:27:31.160 --> 0:27:33.440 be a cultural thing about most of them. Now I'm 0:27:33.440 --> 0:27:36.440 not going to generalize them. Is here's here's where the 0:27:36.520 --> 0:27:41.600 rub comes. As you talk very eloquently every week that 0:27:41.880 --> 0:27:46.159 the every man and woman, common person paying their taxes. 0:27:45.960 --> 0:27:47.080 We pay for everything. 0:27:47.520 --> 0:27:50.160 Okay, that's what makes everybody upset. 0:27:50.200 --> 0:27:50.880 And this is why it's. 0:27:50.840 --> 0:27:51.400 Hitting a fan. 0:27:52.040 --> 0:27:56.359 Now, if this money was going to people legitimately, we 0:27:56.440 --> 0:27:59.239 have no problem in the United States, taking care of 0:27:59.320 --> 0:28:03.919 the or friends, the prisoners, the widows, uh, kids without 0:28:04.240 --> 0:28:07.040 come to dead all. I mean, we're a very generous country. 0:28:07.080 --> 0:28:10.160 But if you're if you're going to screw us from 0:28:10.240 --> 0:28:13.360 people that don't want to assimilate to our culture. They 0:28:13.359 --> 0:28:16.400 don't want to learn how to speak English if they 0:28:16.440 --> 0:28:20.120 want to be on welfare. Well, like they were stating 0:28:20.480 --> 0:28:25.159 the Washington, uh meetings they're having right up there, the 0:28:25.280 --> 0:28:28.080 uh you know, the the the Republicans are doing a 0:28:28.240 --> 0:28:31.800 uh trying to get the facts basically about you know, what's. 0:28:32.040 --> 0:28:35.120 The congressional investigation. Yeah. 0:28:35.280 --> 0:28:38.080 Yeah, this is probably what Jane is going to be 0:28:38.400 --> 0:28:40.440 sharing with the lot of us too. And man, she's 0:28:40.520 --> 0:28:42.800 such a great report. I would love her to dig 0:28:42.800 --> 0:28:46.160 into Columbus because, uh, you know, we're not as bad 0:28:46.320 --> 0:28:49.360 as Minnesota, but we do have that stuff. And the 0:28:49.480 --> 0:28:53.480 current mayor he's just useless. His name is Andrew Gunther, 0:28:54.040 --> 0:28:57.440 and he is For instance, he has said we are 0:28:57.480 --> 0:29:00.920 a sanctuary city, uh, but yet has never come out 0:29:00.960 --> 0:29:03.520 and been bold enough to say worse sanctuary said so 0:29:03.560 --> 0:29:06.200 in other words, everything's under the rug, you know. And 0:29:06.400 --> 0:29:10.720 and he's patronizing this and then it is a political 0:29:11.000 --> 0:29:17.720 it's a political coup. These Democrats, they do this, letting 0:29:17.720 --> 0:29:22.080 them b Johnson told some of his cronies. He told 0:29:22.320 --> 0:29:25.160 anybody that was running for office back in his day, says, 0:29:25.520 --> 0:29:27.160 you got to learn how to pad the box. 0:29:27.800 --> 0:29:29.280 Yet the ballot box. 0:29:29.520 --> 0:29:30.640 They're padding it up there. 0:29:30.800 --> 0:29:33.440 Hey, Unfortunately, Ransom, I got to get some of these 0:29:33.480 --> 0:29:37.320 other callers. But okay, thanks for keeping us posted on Columbus. 0:29:37.360 --> 0:29:39.440 If you would continue to do that, I'll. 0:29:39.280 --> 0:29:41.560 Take your call every time, all right. 0:29:41.560 --> 0:29:44.800 But yeah, it's basically long story short is that we've 0:29:44.800 --> 0:29:47.880 probably got people that have been on welfare for over 0:29:47.960 --> 0:29:52.320 ten years or more and that abuse. If they could 0:29:52.320 --> 0:29:55.360 just get the abuse on accountability happening, then I think 0:29:55.400 --> 0:29:57.120 people would calm down a little bit more. 0:29:57.200 --> 0:29:59.600 You know, I got you got God bless you mana 0:30:00.120 --> 0:30:01.320 you Yeah. 0:30:01.160 --> 0:30:05.160 I mean Ramson just said the word that it sums 0:30:05.200 --> 0:30:08.200 it all up as to the solution for this crap, 0:30:08.600 --> 0:30:14.280 and that's accountability. And Tampon Tim is not being accountable. Uh, 0:30:14.400 --> 0:30:18.320 and the Attorney General is not being accountable at all. 0:30:18.800 --> 0:30:22.520 And boy, I'm here, Ellison, Keith Ellison, I'm here, and 0:30:22.600 --> 0:30:25.760 there might be some stuff dropping on him. I'm gonna 0:30:25.760 --> 0:30:28.520 ask Janis about that when I talked to her in 0:30:28.560 --> 0:30:33.640 a little bit. Hey, let's talk to Ryan in Hamilton. Hey, 0:30:33.680 --> 0:30:34.640 how you doing Ryan? 0:30:35.960 --> 0:30:36.240 Good? 0:30:36.360 --> 0:30:37.600 Are you good? Good? 0:30:38.240 --> 0:30:41.240 First off, I want to say rest Renane Nicole good. 0:30:41.400 --> 0:30:43.840 She was shot in the face three times point link 0:30:43.920 --> 0:30:45.960 Rains was turning the wheel away from an ice officer. 0:30:46.320 --> 0:30:49.520 She was no, no, no, no no no, I'm not 0:30:49.520 --> 0:30:50.320 gonna let you. 0:30:50.320 --> 0:30:52.400 Did you did you? 0:30:52.440 --> 0:30:53.120 Would you? Would you? 0:30:53.200 --> 0:30:53.880 Let me? 0:30:54.600 --> 0:30:55.000 You know what? 0:30:55.360 --> 0:30:57.440 If you don't let me talk, I'm gonna hang up 0:30:57.480 --> 0:31:00.760 on your ass. Did you see did you see the 0:31:00.880 --> 0:31:04.400 last video Ken, the one that came out. 0:31:04.320 --> 0:31:06.920 Yesterday talking to Celton footage. 0:31:07.760 --> 0:31:09.840 No, I might have been body caim. I don't know, 0:31:10.040 --> 0:31:17.800 it doesn't matter. He let me ask you something. How 0:31:17.840 --> 0:31:20.720 many of these kind of shootings did you have to 0:31:20.840 --> 0:31:21.600 rule it on? 0:31:23.240 --> 0:31:25.240 I actually nobody's ruled on any of these. 0:31:26.120 --> 0:31:28.400 I mean, the point I'm trying to make is I'm 0:31:28.400 --> 0:31:30.520 not a know at all, but I've been there, I've 0:31:30.600 --> 0:31:33.440 done that, and that is a good shooting. 0:31:33.720 --> 0:31:37.640 Now let me say this. Will you shut up, Let 0:31:37.680 --> 0:31:40.760 me say this. Let me say this. 0:31:41.280 --> 0:31:44.120 Please, okay, go back fine and talk about pampon tim 0:31:44.160 --> 0:31:44.920 and talking. 0:31:44.640 --> 0:31:46.960 Like you're out of here and you're out of here. 0:31:47.280 --> 0:31:50.640 You know what, learned how to be civil and you can. 0:31:51.000 --> 0:31:54.959 I love going back and forth with these guys, but 0:31:55.000 --> 0:31:56.560 they don't give you a chance. 0:31:56.840 --> 0:31:59.600 What I was gonna say before, you. 0:31:59.560 --> 0:32:04.240 Know, he the torrent of interruptions was I wasn't real 0:32:04.400 --> 0:32:09.640 sure about it until I saw that last video. And 0:32:09.680 --> 0:32:14.040 there's more evidence too, which makes it clear that that's 0:32:14.040 --> 0:32:16.760 what that woman intended to do. And it is a 0:32:16.880 --> 0:32:20.520 tragedy that she's gone. Apparently she has kids too, but 0:32:21.000 --> 0:32:24.000 it's a tragedy of her own making. Like the Vice 0:32:24.040 --> 0:32:28.400 president said, please, if you disagree with me, please call, 0:32:28.680 --> 0:32:32.880 but let's have a discussion going back and forth. Oh 0:32:32.920 --> 0:32:37.440 I'll tell you what. Hey, let's talk to Ken in Cincinnati. Hey, Ken, 0:32:37.520 --> 0:32:39.240 how you doing all right? 0:32:39.280 --> 0:32:39.480 Mike? 0:32:39.720 --> 0:32:42.320 I do want to say happy new Year and maybe 0:32:42.400 --> 0:32:46.000 prosperous and healthy to everyone out there real quick. When 0:32:46.040 --> 0:32:51.040 they call us islamophobe, I call them Christian phobes. 0:32:51.480 --> 0:32:52.840 Oh they can't do. 0:32:52.680 --> 0:32:53.280 That, Boby. 0:32:53.400 --> 0:32:55.320 So hey, you know what what they are. 0:32:55.320 --> 0:32:56.960 They're immune from criticism. 0:32:57.040 --> 0:32:58.960 Ken, don't you know that you're not a lot of 0:32:59.000 --> 0:33:02.440 criticize them. 0:33:03.640 --> 0:33:06.360 And the other thing too. The main reason why I 0:33:06.400 --> 0:33:10.479 was calling is in the insurance businesses. Someone gets killed 0:33:10.520 --> 0:33:13.920 while they're committing a crime, the insurance policy is not. 0:33:13.920 --> 0:33:15.120 Going to pay the family. 0:33:15.640 --> 0:33:20.280 So I'm tired of the city selling these cases with 0:33:20.960 --> 0:33:24.719 people who are involved in criminal activity. And that includes 0:33:24.760 --> 0:33:29.360 an eight point two million dollars settlement ugy so called 0:33:30.400 --> 0:33:35.080 people mostly peaceful riots we're doing. So I hope someone 0:33:35.200 --> 0:33:39.800 does folow a lawsuit uh to uh to contest that, 0:33:40.280 --> 0:33:42.280 because it's just really crazy. 0:33:42.320 --> 0:33:44.680 And then this whole thing with the latest with the 0:33:44.800 --> 0:33:45.440 hinting case. 0:33:45.800 --> 0:33:47.760 If the guy was involved. 0:33:47.200 --> 0:33:52.520 In still in a car in criminal activity, but for that, 0:33:52.800 --> 0:33:54.000 none of this will be happening. 0:33:54.080 --> 0:33:56.520 You're right, and I appreciate the call and bumping up 0:33:56.520 --> 0:33:57.320 against the news. 0:33:57.480 --> 0:33:59.720 All right, God bless you man, you too, thank you, 0:34:00.080 --> 0:34:00.400 thank you. 0:34:01.240 --> 0:34:01.440 Yeah. 0:34:01.520 --> 0:34:05.000 I mean, I don't know getting back to that last caller, 0:34:05.080 --> 0:34:07.720 I mean, if you want a debate, let's debate. That's 0:34:07.760 --> 0:34:11.120 what makes the world go around. But it turned into 0:34:11.120 --> 0:34:14.759 a shouting match pretty quickly. Let's see, you know what 0:34:15.040 --> 0:34:17.919 we are bumping up against the news. When we get back, 0:34:17.960 --> 0:34:19.920 we're going to talk to Janis Heiseel. She's going to 0:34:19.960 --> 0:34:22.719 give us an update. She filed three different stories this 0:34:22.800 --> 0:34:25.839 week out of Minnesota. We'll get that, and then from 0:34:25.880 --> 0:34:29.359 ten thirty to eleven thirty open lines for those of 0:34:29.400 --> 0:34:32.400 you that are on hold. If you continue to hold, 0:34:32.760 --> 0:34:36.520 I'll get y'all first, and we'll do that. Like I 0:34:36.560 --> 0:34:41.239 said at ten thirty, we'll break for the news here 0:34:41.280 --> 0:34:43.760 and then come back with Janis Heisel from the Epoch 0:34:43.800 --> 0:34:52.040 Times seven hundred WLW, News Radio seven hundred WLW Mike 0:34:52.080 --> 0:34:58.400 Allen with our two Saturday Midday. Well, our next stress 0:34:58.480 --> 0:35:00.600 is going to tell us that there's more going on 0:35:00.760 --> 0:35:06.360 in Minnesota than these protests. The investigation into the massive, 0:35:06.640 --> 0:35:12.520 unprecedented fraud in that case continues. Janie Heisel of the 0:35:12.560 --> 0:35:17.000 Epoch Times filed three stories on that subject this week, 0:35:17.040 --> 0:35:18.839 and she's here to talk with us. 0:35:18.920 --> 0:35:20.759 Janis, thanks so much for calling in. 0:35:22.320 --> 0:35:25.440 Absolutely Thank you so much, Mike for having me. Before 0:35:25.480 --> 0:35:29.320 we dive into the stories that I wrote, I would 0:35:29.360 --> 0:35:33.360 like to take just a quick minute and tell the 0:35:33.719 --> 0:35:36.080 listeners to please say a prayer for my colleagues who 0:35:36.120 --> 0:35:40.000 are actually in Minnesota right now and amid all. 0:35:40.400 --> 0:35:43.279 The character things that are going on, you. 0:35:43.239 --> 0:35:46.760 Know, they there are reports from some of my colleagues 0:35:46.800 --> 0:35:49.319 and other people there, other media people I've heard from that, 0:35:49.800 --> 0:35:53.319 you know, when they've been kind of collateral damage. There's 0:35:53.360 --> 0:35:57.120 been some less lethal munitions fired in the area when. 0:35:57.400 --> 0:35:58.600 It you know, then the. 0:35:58.560 --> 0:36:01.560 Shopner or actually the ubber bullets will hit some members 0:36:01.560 --> 0:36:03.080 of media, and. 0:36:03.960 --> 0:36:05.279 Yeah, it's really tough. 0:36:05.280 --> 0:36:07.640 And I also wanted to point out the importance of 0:36:08.400 --> 0:36:13.080 responsible media coverage and how a lot of citizens are 0:36:13.120 --> 0:36:16.320 pushing back when things may not be that way. I 0:36:16.360 --> 0:36:18.200 would like to point out from the Cincinnat enquire I. 0:36:18.160 --> 0:36:19.440 Don't usually do something. 0:36:19.200 --> 0:36:22.920 Like this, but my husband pointed this one out. Here's 0:36:22.960 --> 0:36:26.160 the Facebook post. It says ice officers shot and killed 0:36:26.200 --> 0:36:32.320 a woman observing ice activity in Minneapolis. In response, Cincinnati 0:36:32.440 --> 0:36:37.160 joined national protests. Yeah, as you can imagine, citizens went 0:36:37.200 --> 0:36:38.319 off in the comments. 0:36:38.520 --> 0:36:41.160 Yeah, you know what, and you're right, And usually I 0:36:41.160 --> 0:36:44.440 don't see that filtering down to local media. 0:36:44.560 --> 0:36:44.960 Jannis. 0:36:45.080 --> 0:36:47.440 I mean, in all my time, I think they've been 0:36:47.480 --> 0:36:50.239 overwhelmingly fair and unbiased. 0:36:50.480 --> 0:36:52.160 It's mainly the national media. 0:36:52.239 --> 0:36:55.400 But it's very appropriate for you to make that comment, 0:36:55.440 --> 0:36:57.440 and I appreciate you letting us know. 0:36:59.160 --> 0:37:01.120 Yeah, I just thought people would like to know that, 0:37:01.320 --> 0:37:04.120 you know, that's out there and there are people voiceeing 0:37:04.280 --> 0:37:06.920 their opinion about that. So if you look, if you're 0:37:06.920 --> 0:37:09.520 on Facebook, take a look at that, unless maybe and 0:37:09.560 --> 0:37:12.080 him changed it by now, but I have a screenshot 0:37:12.120 --> 0:37:15.000 of it. So anyway, Yeah, I'm glad to talk about 0:37:15.000 --> 0:37:17.560 the stories that I've written. And yes, I like to 0:37:17.560 --> 0:37:20.239 do more than just a sensational headline, right, I like 0:37:20.280 --> 0:37:22.880 to look into what really is happening below. 0:37:22.640 --> 0:37:24.040 The surface as much as I can. 0:37:24.200 --> 0:37:27.600 Yep, you do it. You do that. Well, let me 0:37:27.640 --> 0:37:28.200 ask you. 0:37:28.200 --> 0:37:31.759 Your first story that I read Medicaid will claw back 0:37:31.920 --> 0:37:35.120 fraud funds at doctor Oz. I guess had a press 0:37:35.160 --> 0:37:38.880 conference about it, and his was about Medicare Medicaid I 0:37:38.920 --> 0:37:43.200 forget which one. And they're digging into that one thing 0:37:43.239 --> 0:37:47.480 I saw in that story. Jannis his agency, Doctor Oz's 0:37:47.800 --> 0:37:52.440 agency can't find Ah, it's not really that much. Only 0:37:52.800 --> 0:37:57.960 five hundred million dollars in these Medicare slash Medicaid payments. 0:37:58.600 --> 0:38:00.640 I mean, that's just one believable. 0:38:03.640 --> 0:38:07.319 Again, every time I think my jaw can't drop open anymore, ye, yeah, 0:38:07.640 --> 0:38:11.360 latest news coming out of here, it does. And actually 0:38:11.400 --> 0:38:16.120 Trump has pointed out that the fraud across our country, 0:38:16.760 --> 0:38:18.960 not just Minnesota. But one of the things about Minnesota. 0:38:19.000 --> 0:38:23.080 That does make it stand out is per capita, the 0:38:23.560 --> 0:38:27.200 suspected and documented fraud is really really high for a 0:38:27.239 --> 0:38:32.840 smaller state in parison to say California per person per capita, 0:38:32.880 --> 0:38:35.720 if we cost that out, I don't have those figures 0:38:35.760 --> 0:38:37.880 in front of me, and it's something we're still working on, 0:38:38.000 --> 0:38:39.239 and I don't know if I can even get my 0:38:39.360 --> 0:38:40.040 arms around it. 0:38:40.040 --> 0:38:40.839 It's too big. 0:38:41.160 --> 0:38:44.279 It's just hard to fathom at some point. And you know, 0:38:44.680 --> 0:38:46.919 you know, doctor Oz said, good for him for saying, 0:38:46.960 --> 0:38:49.160 is he's going to try to claw back the funds. 0:38:49.960 --> 0:38:53.680 I'll bet when it comes to restitution if there's a 0:38:53.719 --> 0:38:56.440 criminal conviction, there ain't gonna be a lot of money 0:38:56.480 --> 0:39:00.799 to give back, unfortunately, because they spend that already. But 0:39:01.200 --> 0:39:03.200 tell us a little bit more about what doctor Oz 0:39:03.280 --> 0:39:04.400 had to say this week. 0:39:06.239 --> 0:39:09.239 Well, he said that, look, you know, why should we 0:39:09.239 --> 0:39:12.759 give you any more money if you don't have the 0:39:12.760 --> 0:39:15.520 controls in place to make sure that this money is 0:39:15.600 --> 0:39:18.640 actually going for the intended purpose. That's the bottom line 0:39:18.640 --> 0:39:19.040 on that one. 0:39:20.160 --> 0:39:24.319 And is it Medicare or medicaid? Janis I should know 0:39:24.520 --> 0:39:25.640 medicaid Medicaid? 0:39:25.719 --> 0:39:30.200 Okay, okay, Yeah, the other all stories are good This 0:39:30.360 --> 0:39:37.360 is extremely interesting. Minnesota agency staff backdated records as auditors 0:39:37.480 --> 0:39:42.480 found failures. I mean, that's big time bad and probably 0:39:42.600 --> 0:39:47.920 criminal if they Ohio has a statue for tampering with records. 0:39:48.600 --> 0:39:51.960 What's the story on that, I mean, how how are 0:39:52.000 --> 0:39:54.960 they doing it backdating the records? If you know from 0:39:55.160 --> 0:39:58.160 within your story, Well, there was. 0:39:58.120 --> 0:40:01.360 A hearing where there's a person called the Office of 0:40:01.400 --> 0:40:05.960 the Legislative Auditor and this this is an agency. It's 0:40:05.960 --> 0:40:09.200 like a watchdog agency that's been within their Minnesota government 0:40:09.239 --> 0:40:11.640 for many years and their job is to kind of 0:40:11.680 --> 0:40:15.560 spot check different agencies, uh, to make sure that they 0:40:15.600 --> 0:40:18.759 have financial controls in place, things that again, make sure 0:40:18.760 --> 0:40:21.400 that the money is going for the intended purposes, that 0:40:21.520 --> 0:40:24.600 they have the t's crossed, eyes dotted, things like that, 0:40:25.120 --> 0:40:28.160 and uh so when they went into this agency, it's 0:40:28.200 --> 0:40:31.640 a division of the Department of Human Services, which is 0:40:31.680 --> 0:40:35.480 in essence the welfare department. Uh, the Department of Behavioral 0:40:35.520 --> 0:40:39.800 Health is supposed to uh take care of some needs 0:40:39.800 --> 0:40:42.799 for people who have substance abuse and things like that 0:40:43.239 --> 0:40:47.320 and uh disabled and things like mentally mentally, uh people 0:40:47.320 --> 0:40:49.719 with mental disorders and take care of those people. 0:40:49.760 --> 0:40:51.319 And I think all of us, you know. 0:40:51.320 --> 0:40:54.120 Would support those uses of funds. But when you go 0:40:54.280 --> 0:40:56.799 in there and you're trying to make sure that that 0:40:56.920 --> 0:40:59.840 money is going for those purposes, and then when you 0:41:00.040 --> 0:41:03.360 start asking for records and they go, okay, where's the 0:41:03.440 --> 0:41:07.759 proof that you visited and provided services or that the contractor? 0:41:07.960 --> 0:41:11.600 They administer grants and I think it was like between 0:41:11.640 --> 0:41:14.480 two hundred million and over three hundred million per year. 0:41:14.719 --> 0:41:18.280 This agency is in charge of doling out grant money 0:41:18.320 --> 0:41:21.000 to various providers. They go in and they go, well, 0:41:21.000 --> 0:41:24.040 where's the proof that this agency. 0:41:23.600 --> 0:41:25.320 Provided this service? 0:41:27.000 --> 0:41:29.120 Yea, And then they created a record and they said, well, 0:41:29.120 --> 0:41:32.200 we just forgot at the time of the visit to 0:41:32.360 --> 0:41:36.040 document that we were there, you know, making sure that 0:41:36.080 --> 0:41:40.200 this company was providing the contracted service under. 0:41:40.040 --> 0:41:40.920 The grant money. 0:41:41.280 --> 0:41:45.280 You know, you talked about the legislative auditor Judy Randall. 0:41:46.160 --> 0:41:50.319 She in your story, she's quoted in her twenty seven 0:41:50.400 --> 0:41:54.320 years of working for the watchdog agency. Randall said, quote, 0:41:54.800 --> 0:42:00.200 I have never seen this before. Multiple employees fabricated the records, 0:42:00.200 --> 0:42:04.760 she said, so we do believe it was a systemic effort. 0:42:05.520 --> 0:42:08.960 I mean, that's big time fraud. If you've got a 0:42:09.000 --> 0:42:12.000 bunch of people involved in it, which it looks like 0:42:12.320 --> 0:42:13.400 that's the case there. 0:42:14.800 --> 0:42:17.880 Well, I remember one fact is that it was in 0:42:17.960 --> 0:42:22.080 February of twenty twenty five that they were that a 0:42:22.280 --> 0:42:26.000 record was created after the audits began, and they were 0:42:26.080 --> 0:42:32.480 documented visits that happened several months prior, and so that 0:42:32.840 --> 0:42:34.400 is a huge concern. And one of the things that 0:42:34.520 --> 0:42:36.960 was surprising to me that I hope to have time 0:42:37.000 --> 0:42:40.359 to follow up on is they did not say during 0:42:40.480 --> 0:42:45.879 the hearing whether what kind of action, if any, would 0:42:45.880 --> 0:42:50.480 be taken against the multiple individuals that she the Legislative 0:42:50.520 --> 0:42:56.439 Auditor identified as being these backdating you know, creating. 0:42:56.200 --> 0:43:00.600 Records and at the same time they're going after whistleblowers. Yeah, 0:43:00.880 --> 0:43:04.759 it doesn't make any sense, but it's not surprising. Just 0:43:04.880 --> 0:43:07.320 one more thing from that story, Janus, I want to 0:43:07.360 --> 0:43:11.399 read just a short paragraph that you wrote talking about 0:43:11.480 --> 0:43:16.520 James Comber and the Congressional House Oversight Committee hearings and 0:43:16.719 --> 0:43:20.560 James Comer you're talking about Comber highlighted a specific concern. 0:43:21.040 --> 0:43:27.759 The report discloses one grantee received nearly seven hundred thousand 0:43:27.880 --> 0:43:32.560 dollars for a single month of work, yet couldn't provide 0:43:32.680 --> 0:43:38.200 auditors with documentation proving that amount was justified. I mean, 0:43:38.560 --> 0:43:41.680 it's just it's stunning in its brazenness. 0:43:43.520 --> 0:43:45.759 Did you note the part where it actually came up 0:43:45.840 --> 0:43:49.760 during a congressional hearing the head of the Oversite Committee, 0:43:49.840 --> 0:43:53.400 James Comber, pointed out, quote, here's the kicker. I remember 0:43:53.480 --> 0:43:56.680 he said that the employee who approved that particular grant 0:43:57.440 --> 0:44:02.200 left the government agency and took job later on with 0:44:02.400 --> 0:44:05.560 the place for which he said, you can have the money. 0:44:06.960 --> 0:44:09.600 Wow, you know, the blind leading the blind. 0:44:09.680 --> 0:44:12.880 You know, seven hundred thousand dollars kind of adds up, 0:44:13.000 --> 0:44:15.480 and I'd like to have a job where I can 0:44:15.560 --> 0:44:18.000 earn that for a single month of work. 0:44:18.400 --> 0:44:20.080 It just gets worse up. 0:44:20.480 --> 0:44:23.279 Yeah, really, let's both go there, Mike what he say? 0:44:23.640 --> 0:44:27.279 I'm ready, man, I'm ready. Okay, the most comprehensive. You're 0:44:27.360 --> 0:44:30.640 all your stories are comprehensive, But boy, the one four 0:44:30.760 --> 0:44:33.600 takeaways from the fraud congressional hearing that we were just 0:44:33.719 --> 0:44:37.560 talking about, you break it down into four separate things, Janie. 0:44:38.280 --> 0:44:40.319 First one being national discussion. 0:44:40.960 --> 0:44:43.080 This is a key point. Can you kind of tell 0:44:43.160 --> 0:44:44.239 us what you're thinking on that? 0:44:46.840 --> 0:44:47.080 Well? 0:44:47.480 --> 0:44:50.919 I think that you know, a representative Hudson. I don't 0:44:50.920 --> 0:44:52.920 have that story in front of me, but he really 0:44:53.040 --> 0:44:55.680 put it very well. He described and you know, if 0:44:55.719 --> 0:44:57.120 maybe you haven't it in front of you, Mikey, you 0:44:57.160 --> 0:44:59.400 can describe what is his exact words for because I 0:44:59.400 --> 0:45:01.080 don't want to misquote him. 0:45:01.239 --> 0:45:02.680 You're talking about Comber. 0:45:04.320 --> 0:45:07.920 Representative Hudson. He was from He's from Minnesota, and he 0:45:08.000 --> 0:45:10.759 was one of the three major witnesses who testified. There 0:45:10.840 --> 0:45:13.200 was a fourth witness, but he didn't say a whole lot. 0:45:13.680 --> 0:45:18.520 And Representative Hudson is on the fraud Prevention Committee in Minnesota, 0:45:19.120 --> 0:45:21.080 and I just I feel like. 0:45:21.120 --> 0:45:22.440 That he put it well. If you don't have it 0:45:22.480 --> 0:45:24.320 in front of you, we can you know. 0:45:24.560 --> 0:45:27.520 Yeah, I would rather have him say it to me. 0:45:27.920 --> 0:45:28.920 I'm looking forward to here. 0:45:29.000 --> 0:45:33.520 Janis a lot with Comer and then the Republican lawmakers, 0:45:33.640 --> 0:45:36.560 Kristin Robbins, Walter Hudson, Marion Rerick. 0:45:37.560 --> 0:45:40.080 Is that what you're talking about the very first subhead 0:45:40.080 --> 0:45:41.400 and that is okay? 0:45:42.080 --> 0:45:44.400 Yeah, yeah, he's he. 0:45:44.520 --> 0:45:46.640 Was amazing and I just want to, you know, I 0:45:46.680 --> 0:45:49.600 don't want to, you know, put any words in his mouth. 0:45:51.400 --> 0:45:54.000 Well, it says they testified at the hearing along with 0:45:54.120 --> 0:45:58.239 the fourth witness Brendan Belou, a former federal prosecutor and 0:45:58.440 --> 0:46:03.759 native Minnesota. So, I mean, obviously these people are legislative 0:46:03.800 --> 0:46:06.399 people and they're keeping an eye on it. I guess 0:46:06.440 --> 0:46:09.440 if you broke it down between good guys and bad guys, 0:46:09.719 --> 0:46:10.919 these people are the good guys. 0:46:10.920 --> 0:46:14.520 Wouldn't you say, well, I don't want. 0:46:14.360 --> 0:46:16.920 To, you know, opine on that. You know, but I 0:46:17.040 --> 0:46:21.439 will tell you that this hearing ended up being kind 0:46:21.440 --> 0:46:25.480 of devolved into some shouting matches where some of the 0:46:25.560 --> 0:46:28.600 people on the other side of the political aisle were 0:46:28.719 --> 0:46:32.359 raising questions about things that were not relevant at all 0:46:32.480 --> 0:46:36.640 to Minnesota fraud. For example, they were bringing up January sixth, 0:46:37.560 --> 0:46:39.600 and I'm kind of like, what does that have to 0:46:39.680 --> 0:46:42.040 do with Minnesota product? That was what the witnesses were 0:46:42.120 --> 0:46:44.759 pushing back. And then then that ends up where the 0:46:45.400 --> 0:46:47.759 person in Congress is yelling at the witnesses thing. 0:46:47.760 --> 0:46:49.719 It's my time, I get my time back, and just. 0:46:50.080 --> 0:46:51.840 Oh yeah, back and forth. 0:46:52.000 --> 0:46:54.840 And so anyway, the key point that you know, I 0:46:54.960 --> 0:46:58.600 found the quote he said, the national conversation has been 0:46:58.719 --> 0:47:02.200 fraught with distractions about personalities and parties and politics. They're 0:47:02.200 --> 0:47:05.880 trying to say this is all just Republicans coming after Democrats. 0:47:06.200 --> 0:47:12.320 He said that basically that they a lack of oversight 0:47:12.400 --> 0:47:15.719 for Minnesota's generous benefit programs. Maybe easy for people to 0:47:15.840 --> 0:47:17.640 quote certain benefits into business. 0:47:17.760 --> 0:47:19.560 That's the phrase I was hoping you would say. 0:47:19.920 --> 0:47:23.000 Because people need to know that is systemic. They want 0:47:23.040 --> 0:47:26.840 to turn benefits into business, according to Representative Hudson, and 0:47:27.000 --> 0:47:31.880 that the state developed a culture of profiting from government 0:47:32.080 --> 0:47:36.719 programs and perpetuity not as a safety net, but as 0:47:36.760 --> 0:47:38.920 an industry. He said it, and I could not put 0:47:38.960 --> 0:47:39.560 that any better. 0:47:39.640 --> 0:47:40.160 I am sorry. 0:47:40.239 --> 0:47:44.239 I wanted to give words because he is, you know, 0:47:44.440 --> 0:47:47.320 there in the state. I am not, And I just 0:47:47.360 --> 0:47:49.400 could not have put it any better than that. He 0:47:49.600 --> 0:47:51.640 sees it from the inside and had seen. 0:47:51.480 --> 0:47:52.120 It for years. 0:47:52.560 --> 0:47:54.880 I'm kind of trying to come lately on the scene. 0:47:55.480 --> 0:47:59.920 So and there's even a cottage industry where consultants earn 0:48:00.160 --> 0:48:02.440 living by helping people get benefits. 0:48:03.280 --> 0:48:05.000 Oh yeah, I saw that in your story. 0:48:05.440 --> 0:48:05.640 Yeah. 0:48:05.880 --> 0:48:07.560 I want to make sure I get this in here. 0:48:08.320 --> 0:48:11.520 One of the things to me is just shocking your 0:48:11.600 --> 0:48:14.920 section about whistleblowers punished and intimidated. 0:48:16.200 --> 0:48:17.920 What do you know about that? Janis? 0:48:19.120 --> 0:48:21.719 Oh, well, the thing that stood out to me most 0:48:21.760 --> 0:48:24.480 that I had not heard yet. I heard about whistleblowers 0:48:24.520 --> 0:48:28.560 being punished and threatened in things, and reassigned different jobs, 0:48:28.600 --> 0:48:32.560 and all of that, you know, really bad enough. But 0:48:32.840 --> 0:48:36.000 then there were there's an email that was entered into 0:48:36.080 --> 0:48:39.200 the congressional record that shows that a leader of the 0:48:39.280 --> 0:48:44.560 Welfare Department sent out to several other people at least 0:48:44.719 --> 0:48:49.320 a veiled threat, if not actual statement. I don't have 0:48:49.440 --> 0:48:52.520 the email, I've asked for it that says we want 0:48:52.560 --> 0:48:55.920 to use military intelligence to have the exact. 0:48:56.200 --> 0:49:01.279 Locations I saw that, unbelieva. Let me just read a 0:49:01.360 --> 0:49:06.440 couple sentences here from your story. You are quoting Rareck here. 0:49:07.040 --> 0:49:11.280 Their collective message has been completely consistent. Instead of focusing 0:49:11.360 --> 0:49:17.520 on fraudsters, DHS leadership instead focuses its focus is its 0:49:17.640 --> 0:49:23.720 surveillance on employees. After one whistleblower raised concerns, she faced 0:49:23.840 --> 0:49:28.320 a lengthy investigation, was escorted out of the building and 0:49:28.560 --> 0:49:33.879 transferred involuntarily to another state agency. Just a couple more 0:49:33.920 --> 0:49:37.440 sentences here, Jess. Other employees have reported being threatened with 0:49:37.560 --> 0:49:41.279 being fired, being blacklisted from all state agencies. 0:49:41.680 --> 0:49:43.319 And this is what you just said. 0:49:43.560 --> 0:49:47.640 This floored me, and receiving a veiled threat of the 0:49:47.800 --> 0:49:52.360 use of military intelligence against them. Now that's got to 0:49:52.360 --> 0:49:54.759 be a federal crime in and of itself, I would think. 0:49:56.000 --> 0:49:58.960 Well, I did say a couple of congressmen at the 0:49:59.040 --> 0:50:02.280 hearing did raise the possibility that such actions have proven 0:50:02.680 --> 0:50:06.920 could constitute criminal conduct. So I don't even know, like 0:50:07.400 --> 0:50:12.080 if if there are enough prosecutors to look. 0:50:12.000 --> 0:50:12.640 Into all of this. 0:50:13.760 --> 0:50:18.400 The problems are so deep and wide that one of 0:50:18.480 --> 0:50:20.360 the prosecutors is the guy who has been kind of 0:50:20.400 --> 0:50:22.840 like the lead prosecutor on the Minnesota front. And this 0:50:23.040 --> 0:50:25.400 is the point I want to make sure people realize 0:50:25.600 --> 0:50:29.480 this didn't happen overnight. There have been alarms raised about this, 0:50:29.640 --> 0:50:32.719 and that's another key point that's been missed. Alarms have 0:50:32.800 --> 0:50:37.479 been raised about this for a decade or more, right, Yeah, 0:50:38.560 --> 0:50:43.759 and they get ignored and so literally they This prosecutor 0:50:43.840 --> 0:50:46.800 has been in charge of most of these cases, especially 0:50:46.920 --> 0:50:49.760 this main one called Feeding Our Future, which, to remind 0:50:49.800 --> 0:50:53.399 the listeners, was the case where people were claiming during 0:50:53.480 --> 0:50:57.040 the pandemic era, to provide meals to kids that they 0:50:57.160 --> 0:50:59.600 ordinarily would have gotten in schools that schools were closed 0:50:59.600 --> 0:51:03.360 because of the COVID pandemic, and they weren't providing the 0:51:03.440 --> 0:51:05.319 meals that they were just pocketing the money and doing 0:51:05.360 --> 0:51:06.080 other things with it. 0:51:06.160 --> 0:51:07.719 Basically up to the tune. 0:51:07.480 --> 0:51:10.520 Of now three hundred and ten million is the latest. 0:51:10.880 --> 0:51:12.360 Prosecutions are still. 0:51:12.200 --> 0:51:17.879 Continuing, and they began in twenty twenty two, after investigations started. 0:51:17.600 --> 0:51:20.440 The year prior. So that is this prosecutor that was 0:51:20.480 --> 0:51:20.920 in charge of. 0:51:21.000 --> 0:51:23.600 All of that said at one point he could have 0:51:23.800 --> 0:51:24.799 one thousand. 0:51:24.560 --> 0:51:26.520 Prosecutors and still stay busy. 0:51:26.719 --> 0:51:28.839 I'm reading it now and I read it last night. 0:51:29.800 --> 0:51:32.800 Let me ask It's impossible to answer. I guess I 0:51:32.920 --> 0:51:35.520 wonder if that was tongue in cheek or he actually 0:51:36.000 --> 0:51:39.040 believed that. I mean, with what's going on there and 0:51:39.080 --> 0:51:42.200 the lack of oversight, maybe they would need a thousand prosecutors. 0:51:42.480 --> 0:51:45.520 It's just it's incredible. Hey, we only have a couple minutes. 0:51:45.880 --> 0:51:47.719 I'm sorry, a couple of minutes. I thought I want 0:51:48.239 --> 0:51:51.680 I wanted to ask you a couple things. First, what's 0:51:51.800 --> 0:51:56.320 next in Minnesota? Secondly, what are you hearing about Columbus? 0:51:56.400 --> 0:51:59.640 Because I kind of thought last week there'd be a 0:51:59.719 --> 0:52:02.680 big week up there of discovery. There was a little 0:52:02.680 --> 0:52:04.560 bit of a blit, but then I didn't hear anything, 0:52:04.719 --> 0:52:07.200 so you have two and a half minutes. 0:52:07.280 --> 0:52:12.440 Janis okay. So what's next for Minnesota is that the 0:52:12.560 --> 0:52:15.240 Fraud Committee is probably going to have a hearing sometime 0:52:15.360 --> 0:52:17.320 this month. Now, who knows, they may not have it. 0:52:17.760 --> 0:52:20.480 It's this unrest and the clashes between the ICE and 0:52:20.520 --> 0:52:24.000 the protesters continue, so we'll see if they are going 0:52:24.080 --> 0:52:26.880 to have a hearing. I will be covering that for certain. 0:52:28.000 --> 0:52:30.560 I know there is an additional congressional hearing that is 0:52:30.640 --> 0:52:34.520 planned coming up in the month of February where Governor 0:52:34.640 --> 0:52:40.279 Wall of Minnesota, if people are aware, may remember that 0:52:40.440 --> 0:52:43.600 recently he announced he is not continuing his bid for 0:52:43.719 --> 0:52:47.560 reelection for a third term Darnick. He and the Attorney 0:52:47.680 --> 0:52:51.600 General Keith Ellison from Minnesota have been a subpoena or there. 0:52:51.400 --> 0:52:51.920 Have been seveena. 0:52:51.960 --> 0:52:53.839 They take it back, they may be subpoena, but they've 0:52:53.880 --> 0:52:57.120 been asked to come February tenth to a hearing in 0:52:57.280 --> 0:52:59.840 Congress before that oversight committee. 0:53:00.280 --> 0:53:04.200 So that's what's what's next on deck for Minnesota. 0:53:03.960 --> 0:53:07.840 Other than the crazy unrest. Now in Columbus, I actually 0:53:07.880 --> 0:53:11.120 did take a trip up there with a photographer on Tuesday. 0:53:11.600 --> 0:53:13.480 I have not finished my report on that, and I 0:53:13.520 --> 0:53:15.360 don't want to steal too much of my own thunder, 0:53:15.640 --> 0:53:18.880 but I will say I went into the Somali community 0:53:19.640 --> 0:53:21.600 and I was able to get a few interviews. Many 0:53:21.680 --> 0:53:24.560 Somalis were afraid to talk to me or would not 0:53:24.880 --> 0:53:28.279 or could not speak English very well. But the ones 0:53:28.360 --> 0:53:31.120 that I did speak to, I really got some pretty 0:53:31.200 --> 0:53:34.480 interesting stuff. And there's been some videos that have surface 0:53:34.640 --> 0:53:37.440 where people are, you know, doing kind of like the 0:53:37.520 --> 0:53:41.000 Nick Shurly thing and alleging this business. You know, But I, 0:53:41.760 --> 0:53:44.279 in my opinion to like need him to take one 0:53:44.480 --> 0:53:47.839 visit and a place. One place I went, for example. 0:53:47.520 --> 0:53:49.560 I could hear children inside, so I know there were 0:53:49.680 --> 0:53:50.600 children in there. 0:53:51.000 --> 0:53:53.440 Okay, but who knows, maybe there are five children in 0:53:53.480 --> 0:53:56.279 there and they're building for twenty you know. I don't 0:53:56.320 --> 0:53:58.640 have the authority to go barging into a place, and 0:53:59.400 --> 0:54:01.880 it did to me. Yeah, so that's kind of I 0:54:02.000 --> 0:54:03.680 will have a story coming up next. 0:54:03.520 --> 0:54:04.080 Week on that. 0:54:04.440 --> 0:54:08.800 Okay, Well, we will look forward. And again, this is invaluable, Janis. 0:54:09.000 --> 0:54:12.120 I mean, you're giving out information that I don't think 0:54:12.120 --> 0:54:15.320 a lot of reporters in this country know or have 0:54:15.480 --> 0:54:18.279 bothered to do the work on so and I can't 0:54:18.280 --> 0:54:21.080 tell you how many times I get Hey, you know, 0:54:21.200 --> 0:54:24.040 I listened to you and Janis Heisel's really got that 0:54:24.239 --> 0:54:24.799 story down. 0:54:24.880 --> 0:54:25.120 Pat. 0:54:25.320 --> 0:54:27.320 I guess that's all a long way of saying, I 0:54:27.440 --> 0:54:28.919 really appreciate what you're doing. 0:54:30.400 --> 0:54:32.120 Well, you know, I appreciate being on the air to 0:54:32.160 --> 0:54:34.160 talk about it because I do think that people in 0:54:34.239 --> 0:54:37.480 Cincinnati really need to be informed in back people across 0:54:37.520 --> 0:54:41.360 the country. So thank you again for the opportunity, and 0:54:42.560 --> 0:54:44.480 We're all going to definitely stay tuned and I'll keep 0:54:44.520 --> 0:54:45.040 working as. 0:54:44.920 --> 0:54:45.480 Hard as a can. 0:54:45.840 --> 0:54:50.640 That sounds good, Jans, thank you. All right, boy, I'll 0:54:50.680 --> 0:54:54.360 tell you what. That's some good information. It just it's frightening, 0:54:54.520 --> 0:54:57.719 it really is. And I think she would have said 0:54:57.719 --> 0:54:59.919 if I would have asked her, they've only scratched the serp. 0:55:00.080 --> 0:55:03.239 It's up there, but pretty bad. Hey, listen, we got 0:55:03.360 --> 0:55:05.440 to take a break. I'm already late for the news. 0:55:05.719 --> 0:55:08.600 When we get back. Your calls and those are the 0:55:08.760 --> 0:55:12.200 all hold I'm going to get them first. Mike Allen Saturday. 0:55:11.880 --> 0:55:14.280 Midday sixteen rules you would recruit Look. 0:55:14.160 --> 0:55:17.760 Gallen Saturday Midday as promising, I'm gonna get to the phones. 0:55:17.800 --> 0:55:21.040 This won't take long at all. I did do some research, 0:55:21.200 --> 0:55:23.759 some down and dirty research over the break about the 0:55:23.920 --> 0:55:28.560 question of whether a taxpayer can sue the City of 0:55:28.640 --> 0:55:34.240 Cincinnati to prevent them giving any money to the Hinton family. 0:55:34.520 --> 0:55:36.680 We've been talking about all morning, and I tell you 0:55:36.760 --> 0:55:39.040 the first thing that pops up is AI, and I 0:55:39.200 --> 0:55:42.520 have found AI to be accurate and fair. Okay, here's 0:55:42.560 --> 0:55:48.399 the short answer. Yes, an Olio taxpayer can potentially sue 0:55:48.440 --> 0:55:53.040 a municipality over a settlement, but it's complex. Usually requires 0:55:53.120 --> 0:55:56.200 showing misuse of funds well that would be right on 0:55:56.280 --> 0:56:00.520 the money, or illegal activity, and often depends on the law. 0:56:00.600 --> 0:56:05.239 Exceptions to this is this would be the problem. Two 0:56:05.480 --> 0:56:10.000 exceptions to sovereign immunity. Uh, that's you'd have to get 0:56:10.080 --> 0:56:10.560 around that. 0:56:11.400 --> 0:56:11.520 Uh. 0:56:12.040 --> 0:56:15.759 When a taxpayer can sue a common basis is if 0:56:15.840 --> 0:56:20.640 the municipality is misusing taxpayer money, failing duties, engaging in 0:56:20.719 --> 0:56:25.520 illegal acts under the revised code. And then just one 0:56:25.600 --> 0:56:30.719 more thing on the sovereign immunity thing. Municipalities have immunity, 0:56:31.000 --> 0:56:35.880 meaning they can't be sued easily, requiring the taxpayer to 0:56:36.160 --> 0:56:40.080 fit it into a specific legal exception. And there there 0:56:40.120 --> 0:56:43.040 are quite a few exceptions to sovereign I you need, 0:56:43.200 --> 0:56:45.719 but you'd have to find one. So I think the 0:56:45.880 --> 0:56:50.440 answer is, yes, you can, but it won't be easy. 0:56:50.840 --> 0:56:53.160 So anyway, I wanted to make sure that I had 0:56:53.239 --> 0:56:56.040 that down. Hey, let's talk to Roger in Milwaukee. 0:56:57.719 --> 0:56:58.960 Hello, Roger, thank you. 0:56:59.560 --> 0:57:04.360 Hey, I'm in Columbus. First of all, on the insurance issue, 0:57:05.239 --> 0:57:09.440 Usually the insurance policies, I understand, have the ability to 0:57:09.560 --> 0:57:12.879 override what the city wants to do, so the city 0:57:13.000 --> 0:57:17.160 might not want to settle, but oftentimes the final decision 0:57:17.240 --> 0:57:18.480 is with the insurance company. 0:57:18.600 --> 0:57:20.160 So give some thought to that. 0:57:20.320 --> 0:57:24.920 That's that's interesting, Roger. I didn't know that. I mean, 0:57:25.000 --> 0:57:28.800 it's the city's money. But you sound like you know 0:57:28.880 --> 0:57:31.760 what you're talking about. Are these things, these kind of 0:57:32.320 --> 0:57:36.480 claims against the city, Usually they get the money from 0:57:36.600 --> 0:57:39.000 the insurance and not from the general fund. 0:57:40.000 --> 0:57:42.800 Well, Cincinnati could be self insured, you know, they might 0:57:43.000 --> 0:57:47.240 not even have an insurance company, and if it's viewed 0:57:47.280 --> 0:57:51.760 as an intentional tort, their policy may not cover. But 0:57:52.680 --> 0:57:55.160 I by no means I'm an expert, but general information. 0:57:55.440 --> 0:57:57.880 But you know, I wanted to get back to if 0:57:57.960 --> 0:58:00.480 I could just in the situation with the audit mobile 0:58:00.640 --> 0:58:03.800 and all one has to do is take a look 0:58:03.840 --> 0:58:08.000 at the world. How many people have used vehicles as weapons? Okay, 0:58:09.040 --> 0:58:14.640 it's an obvious issue of throughout Germany, you're wherever you 0:58:14.720 --> 0:58:19.080 want to look. Vehicles have always been used as weapons. 0:58:19.400 --> 0:58:24.160 It's at all and police officers have died in them, 0:58:25.560 --> 0:58:26.640 cars driven into it. 0:58:27.320 --> 0:58:29.240 I'm sorry all the time. 0:58:30.240 --> 0:58:33.680 So split second decision making me. She put herself in 0:58:33.760 --> 0:58:37.160 this situation and unfortunately she. 0:58:37.240 --> 0:58:38.320 Paid a high price for it. 0:58:38.440 --> 0:58:40.400 And then my final comment, and wouldn't mind knowing a 0:58:40.440 --> 0:58:41.040 little bit of your. 0:58:40.960 --> 0:58:41.480 Thoughts on this. 0:58:42.440 --> 0:58:45.120 Let's assume Milwaukee is a city of what maybe two 0:58:45.200 --> 0:58:45.800 million people? 0:58:45.840 --> 0:58:48.840 Would you say, let's say two million, million and a half, 0:58:49.760 --> 0:58:54.120 So you have about five hundred people showing up to 0:58:54.320 --> 0:58:56.200 be worked up and so forth, and then. 0:58:56.080 --> 0:59:00.880 The media calls it chaos. Believe me, five hundred people, 0:59:01.000 --> 0:59:05.480 half who are on payroll is not chaos. I'm not 0:59:05.760 --> 0:59:09.400 diminishing the numbers. But what five hundred, seven hundred and 0:59:09.440 --> 0:59:11.640 fifty were out last night in Milwaukee out of a 0:59:11.720 --> 0:59:13.320 city of maybe two million? 0:59:13.560 --> 0:59:16.720 Yeah, I know, I know, and I think it's safe 0:59:16.800 --> 0:59:17.400 to say that. 0:59:17.560 --> 0:59:22.760 It's orchestrated and the vast majority of the people are 0:59:22.800 --> 0:59:25.800 too busy, trying to make a living, going to work, 0:59:25.880 --> 0:59:29.360 raising kids. All that to be concerned about seven hundred 0:59:29.360 --> 0:59:32.440 and fifty people, half of whom are probably on some 0:59:32.640 --> 0:59:34.880 form of a payroll and picked up the same sign 0:59:34.960 --> 0:59:36.280 they got in Portland. 0:59:36.400 --> 0:59:39.720 Is the same sign they have in Milwaukee? Yep? Any 0:59:39.800 --> 0:59:40.760 sense for my thinking? 0:59:41.120 --> 0:59:43.880 Yeah, no, I'll tell you what I think you're I 0:59:43.960 --> 0:59:46.080 gotta let you go, but I'll answer your question. Thank 0:59:46.120 --> 0:59:47.680 you for that call. That was a good call. 0:59:48.600 --> 0:59:48.800 Yeah. 0:59:48.880 --> 0:59:51.280 I mean, if you look at it, you do see 0:59:52.000 --> 0:59:54.160 a lot of them with the same kind of signs, 0:59:54.200 --> 0:59:57.200 the same thing. So they're on somebody's payroll. My guess 0:59:57.240 --> 1:00:01.120 it would be Soros or one of his. But you know, 1:00:01.520 --> 1:00:04.080 the thing of it is the media. It's an interesting 1:00:04.200 --> 1:00:07.600 thing to cover, it's an interesting thing to get film on. 1:00:07.920 --> 1:00:11.240 So that's why they flock to it. But he's right, 1:00:11.520 --> 1:00:14.920 people need to keep it in perspective. I mean, these 1:00:14.960 --> 1:00:18.600 are the college professors and the students that the college 1:00:18.680 --> 1:00:23.280 professors get all wound up. They're not I don't believe 1:00:23.480 --> 1:00:27.800 ordinary citizens like we are. You know, that's a statement 1:00:27.840 --> 1:00:30.800 that's pretty general. But uh, you know, they don't have 1:00:30.960 --> 1:00:34.280 real jobs that they have to go to So that's 1:00:34.400 --> 1:00:37.080 just me. Uh, I am going to talk to Terry 1:00:37.160 --> 1:00:40.440 who disagrees with me, which is which is fine. Hey Terry, 1:00:40.480 --> 1:00:41.040 how you doing? 1:00:42.400 --> 1:00:44.320 Hey? My, come on, I listen to you every week. 1:00:44.760 --> 1:00:45.040 Thank you. 1:00:45.640 --> 1:00:47.320 I know you're not that bad a person because I 1:00:47.400 --> 1:00:51.320 see you on my my cousin's kids fundraising things all 1:00:51.360 --> 1:00:52.200 the time for their church. 1:00:52.280 --> 1:00:58.200 So okay, I think that's my alma mater. 1:00:59.440 --> 1:01:01.320 All right, well, I always see you whenever they got 1:01:01.400 --> 1:01:05.560 a fund raiser on there. With that said, a few thanks, 1:01:05.600 --> 1:01:10.360 I'll run to the quick pamp on tim. That came 1:01:10.440 --> 1:01:15.280 about because the small rural schools up there, sometimes girls 1:01:15.320 --> 1:01:18.280 had to use the boys locker rooms. I've got four 1:01:18.400 --> 1:01:22.000 daughters that play sports. I live in a rural neighborhood. Like, 1:01:22.120 --> 1:01:24.160 if that gets you guys that worked up, you don't 1:01:24.200 --> 1:01:27.240 care about girls sports that much. I know the nickname 1:01:27.280 --> 1:01:30.479 is funny, but well that's just that's just the truth 1:01:30.560 --> 1:01:30.720 of it. 1:01:30.760 --> 1:01:33.160 There, here's the thing that and that's the first I've 1:01:33.200 --> 1:01:37.840 ever heard of that, and I believe, well again, it's 1:01:38.040 --> 1:01:41.120 not really based on anything that I think the reason 1:01:41.200 --> 1:01:44.480 he did it was to play kate those who think 1:01:44.560 --> 1:01:47.040 that men should be in women's sports. 1:01:47.120 --> 1:01:48.840 But you know what, just for the heck of it. 1:01:49.400 --> 1:01:52.120 I'll drill down on that later. But it's an interesting question. 1:01:54.160 --> 1:01:59.080 Ah man, he took off. I wonder why he did that. 1:01:59.280 --> 1:02:04.640 I mean we were they having a decent discussion. Oh man, Well, anyway, 1:02:04.880 --> 1:02:05.640 I tried. 1:02:06.400 --> 1:02:09.760 Let's see, let's talk to Tim. Hey, how you doing, Tim? 1:02:09.840 --> 1:02:10.360 Good morning? 1:02:12.680 --> 1:02:12.919 Tim? 1:02:13.080 --> 1:02:13.600 Are you there? 1:02:13.720 --> 1:02:14.000 Buddy? 1:02:14.760 --> 1:02:15.000 Hello? 1:02:15.200 --> 1:02:15.439 Tim? 1:02:17.680 --> 1:02:17.960 Tim? 1:02:19.440 --> 1:02:21.920 All right, he's out here. Call back Tim if you can. 1:02:22.680 --> 1:02:25.120 Doug in northern Kentucky, Let's talk to him. 1:02:25.160 --> 1:02:26.200 Hey, Doug, how you doing. 1:02:27.440 --> 1:02:27.919 I'm doing? 1:02:28.120 --> 1:02:28.800 Just wonderful. 1:02:31.120 --> 1:02:34.720 Just an observation on my part. I was just at 1:02:34.800 --> 1:02:39.560 the post office in Florence, Kentucky, and there was probably 1:02:40.040 --> 1:02:44.840 thirty to forty African Americans, the elderly. There was an 1:02:45.160 --> 1:02:51.640 African guard applying for post or having a brain cramp. 1:02:53.000 --> 1:02:55.880 Post office sports, oh, passports okay, yeah. 1:02:56.800 --> 1:02:59.440 And that just seemed odd to me because I've never 1:02:59.560 --> 1:03:02.440 been to the post office, and I go there quite often. 1:03:02.520 --> 1:03:05.600 Were more than maybe one or two people were there 1:03:06.080 --> 1:03:07.320 trying to get passports. 1:03:08.560 --> 1:03:12.840 That's interesting. They usually I've gotten a passport. I had 1:03:12.840 --> 1:03:14.800 to a couple of times because of course I lost 1:03:14.840 --> 1:03:18.160 it the first time. You got to go jump through 1:03:18.200 --> 1:03:20.040 some hoops. But it's not that big of a deal. 1:03:20.720 --> 1:03:21.120 I don't know. 1:03:21.200 --> 1:03:23.360 I mean, maybe it could be a sports team or something. 1:03:23.400 --> 1:03:26.160 I don't know, But you're right, that is a bit unusual. 1:03:27.800 --> 1:03:32.080 It's just that they had one line for general post 1:03:32.160 --> 1:03:36.280 office duties, and then they had another line which was 1:03:36.800 --> 1:03:42.040 out in the main lobby for passports, and they were 1:03:42.080 --> 1:03:47.160 all interested in American and again summoned African garb interesting. 1:03:47.400 --> 1:03:49.880 I just found that. And you just had that woman 1:03:50.240 --> 1:03:54.920 on there, the investigative reporter. I don't know her name, sorry, 1:03:56.480 --> 1:03:59.920 And I just thought that might be something shem want 1:04:00.120 --> 1:04:00.640 looking too. 1:04:01.000 --> 1:04:04.240 Yeah, you know, and what post off office was it, Doug, 1:04:04.320 --> 1:04:07.160 I don't remember if you say it was Florence, Florence. 1:04:07.240 --> 1:04:09.960 Okay, Okay, well I'll tell you what. If you hear 1:04:10.000 --> 1:04:13.640 anything more, call us back. But that does seem somewhat unusual. 1:04:15.360 --> 1:04:20.320 Yeah, and on your individual you had earlier that wouldn't 1:04:20.360 --> 1:04:24.880 let you talk. Yeah, I just seemed very similar to 1:04:24.960 --> 1:04:27.760 the conversation that the ice agent had with that woman 1:04:27.840 --> 1:04:31.160 who got shot and that guy. It just seemed the 1:04:31.280 --> 1:04:33.840 mind frame of them two people were very similar. 1:04:34.080 --> 1:04:36.640 It is it is, Hey, I appreciate the call. 1:04:37.760 --> 1:04:37.960 Thanks. 1:04:38.640 --> 1:04:39.240 Okay, Doug. 1:04:39.600 --> 1:04:42.240 Well, it's like I've said, I literally mean from the 1:04:42.320 --> 1:04:46.520 first show that I ever did here the arrogance of liberals. 1:04:46.880 --> 1:04:50.520 They're never wrong about anything. They will never consider the 1:04:50.680 --> 1:04:54.959 other person's point of view. They're right, and damn the torpedoes. 1:04:55.720 --> 1:04:57.919 They have a right to do anything that they want 1:04:58.520 --> 1:05:02.480 to further their cause, and that is a big part 1:05:02.520 --> 1:05:03.880 of the problem with these people. 1:05:04.360 --> 1:05:09.920 Okay, let's see. Oh Terry's back. Hey, we lost you. 1:05:10.080 --> 1:05:12.000 How you doing good? 1:05:12.080 --> 1:05:12.240 Hey? 1:05:12.280 --> 1:05:15.480 I don't know what happened there. Sorry, Okay, second thing, 1:05:16.240 --> 1:05:18.480 I guess you can consider me an arrogant liberal. I 1:05:18.560 --> 1:05:19.720 don't consider myself. 1:05:19.480 --> 1:05:23.120 That, but you don't sound eric if you want to categorizing. 1:05:24.360 --> 1:05:25.160 We all agree we. 1:05:26.280 --> 1:05:28.000 Don't like fraud, right, don't like what? 1:05:28.120 --> 1:05:31.000 I'm sorry, do you say fraud roud? Okay, yes, sir, 1:05:31.600 --> 1:05:31.960 we don't. 1:05:32.200 --> 1:05:35.440 Okay. Maybe James Heiseel can do an in depth reporting, 1:05:35.600 --> 1:05:40.000 like a twenty five item reporting on the twenty five 1:05:40.080 --> 1:05:42.480 people that have been convicted of fraud that Trump is 1:05:42.920 --> 1:05:43.680 pardoned this year. 1:05:45.120 --> 1:05:47.960 Fair story. I mean, that's a fair story. I don't 1:05:48.000 --> 1:05:49.280 know that it's twenty five. 1:05:49.560 --> 1:05:51.920 Some of his it might be twenty three. 1:05:52.040 --> 1:05:52.760 You might have me there. 1:05:52.760 --> 1:05:56.320 Okay, some of the people prosecuted, we're prosecuted by his 1:05:56.480 --> 1:05:58.280 own people, and then he parted them. 1:05:58.760 --> 1:06:00.880 I know there's a big one. There's a big fish 1:06:00.960 --> 1:06:03.800 that he pardoned and caught a lot of crap for it. 1:06:04.120 --> 1:06:05.000 I'm gonna drill. 1:06:04.880 --> 1:06:09.200 Down on it and see, all right, last thing, I'll 1:06:09.200 --> 1:06:12.440 go through this past. But you're uniquely qualified because you're 1:06:12.440 --> 1:06:16.720 a prosecutor and a defender. Right, yes, sir, if you're 1:06:16.760 --> 1:06:19.920 a prosecutor, and just say Trump's the head of police. 1:06:19.960 --> 1:06:23.000 And he comes on and says, this guy was so 1:06:23.200 --> 1:06:25.640 brave he got ran over. He's lucky to be alive. 1:06:26.880 --> 1:06:29.240 Everybody saw the video. We know that's not what happened. 1:06:30.240 --> 1:06:33.280 Wendy Vance comes out and says that he has immunity. 1:06:34.400 --> 1:06:36.640 Christy Numb comes out and says that this woman was 1:06:36.720 --> 1:06:41.480 a domestic Harris. There's a third camera, Mike that came 1:06:41.520 --> 1:06:44.480 out yesterday. That's across the street. That's the ring camera. Yeah, 1:06:44.960 --> 1:06:47.160 this woman had been sitting there for less than two 1:06:47.400 --> 1:06:51.160 or three minutes. She's waving the ice guy long. One 1:06:51.200 --> 1:06:54.080 ice guy says, get out a car. One ice guy 1:06:54.160 --> 1:06:57.800 tells her to keep going. There's witnesses that attest to that, 1:06:58.640 --> 1:07:00.760 and the video shows that the guy who shot her, 1:07:01.680 --> 1:07:04.160 who's using a cell phone for whatever reason. I'm sure 1:07:04.200 --> 1:07:08.640 that's not police standard issue. That that guy never was 1:07:08.680 --> 1:07:12.840 touched by that car. It's clear evidence. It's it's out 1:07:12.880 --> 1:07:13.800 there if you want to see it. 1:07:14.080 --> 1:07:16.600 No, I do, and let me ask you. You would 1:07:16.640 --> 1:07:19.880 never let me ask you, Terry. Did you see the 1:07:20.080 --> 1:07:23.280 last one that came out. I think it was last night. 1:07:23.880 --> 1:07:25.960 I mean that's the one that sensed it for me 1:07:26.320 --> 1:07:29.160 that I mean, that's what it looks like where. 1:07:28.960 --> 1:07:32.760 He's holding in his camera. I don't call there's one 1:07:32.840 --> 1:07:35.600 directly behind it is from like a ring doorbell that 1:07:35.760 --> 1:07:36.120 shows it. 1:07:36.400 --> 1:07:38.560 He's not he doesn't get hit. 1:07:38.680 --> 1:07:40.640 Mike, I'm not. I would never want to be a 1:07:40.720 --> 1:07:42.840 cop because I'd never want to be in this situation. Sure, 1:07:43.240 --> 1:07:46.280 but I think it's just really reckless for our leaders 1:07:46.360 --> 1:07:49.240 to come out and say all this stuff instead of 1:07:49.360 --> 1:07:52.400 just waiting, Like if you're the prosecutor, why don't you 1:07:52.480 --> 1:07:54.200 want them to say, like, hey, we're going to review 1:07:54.240 --> 1:07:56.960 all the evidence. You know what, you might be guy 1:07:57.160 --> 1:07:57.640 ran over. 1:07:57.880 --> 1:08:00.320 You might be surprised here, Darren. For the most part, 1:08:00.360 --> 1:08:03.400 I agree with you. I hated to see that. I mean, 1:08:04.400 --> 1:08:07.400 in those kind of things, they can be complex. I 1:08:07.440 --> 1:08:09.640 don't know that this one was. But you know, you 1:08:09.760 --> 1:08:13.600 got to gather the evidence, uh, and put the evidence 1:08:13.680 --> 1:08:15.680 against the law and see if it fits or not. 1:08:16.240 --> 1:08:18.080 I agree with you on that one, but I do 1:08:18.240 --> 1:08:18.560 have to go. 1:08:18.720 --> 1:08:21.680 I appreciate the call, and I appreciate I appreciate, I 1:08:21.760 --> 1:08:22.960 appreciate the stability. 1:08:24.439 --> 1:08:27.200 What's that, miss Glenn Mason? 1:08:27.720 --> 1:08:29.720 I know I missed him a lot. 1:08:29.880 --> 1:08:30.040 Man. 1:08:30.360 --> 1:08:32.600 I'll tell you what you debate with that guy, you 1:08:32.720 --> 1:08:35.599 better know what you're talking about. I missing you can 1:08:35.680 --> 1:08:37.759 be how about you be the new Glenn Terry. 1:08:37.800 --> 1:08:38.120 How's that? 1:08:41.240 --> 1:08:41.599 Okay? 1:08:43.200 --> 1:08:45.400 Okay, you too? Thank you? Okay. 1:08:46.200 --> 1:08:51.280 As lawyers say, there's exhibit A as to how to 1:08:51.439 --> 1:08:54.400 conduct a debate, I mean, it wasn't really a debate, 1:08:54.520 --> 1:08:57.040 but back and forth, back and forth, back and forth, 1:08:57.120 --> 1:08:59.920 back and forth. That's how you do it. And I 1:09:00.120 --> 1:09:02.960 appreciate that, and I appreciate his call. I think I 1:09:03.040 --> 1:09:07.360 got time for one more. Mark's been holding on forever. 1:09:07.760 --> 1:09:10.280 Hey Mark, Hey, good morning, Mike. 1:09:10.320 --> 1:09:10.600 How are you. 1:09:10.880 --> 1:09:11.840 I'm good? I'm good. 1:09:11.880 --> 1:09:12.680 What you got, hey? 1:09:13.439 --> 1:09:15.719 A couple of things, you know, I just past week 1:09:16.080 --> 1:09:20.160 got to experience the legal system sitting on a jury 1:09:20.600 --> 1:09:23.000 and making having to make a decision, and a jury 1:09:23.720 --> 1:09:26.479 where the focus of the whole thing and one of 1:09:26.520 --> 1:09:31.040 the key issues was intent, intent of the crime. And 1:09:32.000 --> 1:09:33.880 you know, when you sit there and think about it 1:09:34.120 --> 1:09:36.639 and you put the cop or the officer or whatever 1:09:36.720 --> 1:09:40.160 in that position intent, you know you have to make 1:09:40.200 --> 1:09:43.080 a split second decision of what the intent is. Is 1:09:43.120 --> 1:09:45.320 that person going to shoot you, is that person going 1:09:45.400 --> 1:09:45.840 to hit you? 1:09:46.040 --> 1:09:46.800 What are you going to do? 1:09:47.800 --> 1:09:51.240 And I think it's reckless for anybody to sit there 1:09:51.320 --> 1:09:54.160 and say make a point they knew what's going through 1:09:54.240 --> 1:09:56.559 somebody's mind, because you don't. 1:09:57.040 --> 1:10:00.000 And I think the bottom line. 1:09:59.840 --> 1:10:02.439 Here with all these problems, all these issues that we 1:10:02.600 --> 1:10:06.360 see is that the one one issue here is that 1:10:06.600 --> 1:10:08.960 we have a we have an officer of the law, 1:10:09.320 --> 1:10:13.800 be an ice agent or whatever, who basically gave an 1:10:13.960 --> 1:10:17.960 order to stop, and people not obeying the cop. And 1:10:18.520 --> 1:10:22.160 that's why, that's why we give police officers badges. When 1:10:22.200 --> 1:10:24.280 a cop asked you to do something, you have to 1:10:24.400 --> 1:10:27.320 do it. And if you don't comply, more times than not, 1:10:27.600 --> 1:10:30.880 bad things happen here. And I don't know why that's 1:10:30.920 --> 1:10:33.160 so hard for people to understand that if you have 1:10:33.280 --> 1:10:36.160 a problem, then that's why we have a legal system 1:10:36.240 --> 1:10:38.280 after the fact to go back and see if you 1:10:38.400 --> 1:10:40.599 were wrong. But if a cop tells you to stop, 1:10:41.200 --> 1:10:43.880 you stop. And I don't know how many of these 1:10:43.960 --> 1:10:47.200 instances we've seen, probably most of them, where an officer 1:10:47.360 --> 1:10:49.640 told somebody to do something and they didn't, then it 1:10:49.840 --> 1:10:53.280 escalated into a bigger issue. And that's what I experienced 1:10:53.280 --> 1:10:57.679 in the jury the past week. An officer was told 1:10:57.800 --> 1:11:00.920 told somebody to stop and do something, they didn't comply, 1:11:01.240 --> 1:11:04.400 It got, it got violent, and bad things happen. 1:11:06.520 --> 1:11:09.080 Are you comfortable. Are you comfortable saying what the verdict is. 1:11:09.160 --> 1:11:11.760 I'm just curious. You don't have to if you don't 1:11:11.800 --> 1:11:12.040 want to. 1:11:12.479 --> 1:11:12.599 Uh. 1:11:13.120 --> 1:11:16.920 I would say that one, you know one uh one 1:11:17.080 --> 1:11:19.240 charge innocent, others charge guilty. 1:11:19.520 --> 1:11:23.439 Okay, so okay, But again, intent was the big. 1:11:23.360 --> 1:11:26.200 Issue on both of those where one you really couldn't 1:11:26.240 --> 1:11:29.479 determine what the intent was or was And I mean, 1:11:29.560 --> 1:11:32.080 I guess you know the old adages was it the 1:11:32.240 --> 1:11:35.280 unreasonable doubt? And you know, in my opinion, it wasn't. 1:11:35.520 --> 1:11:38.240 Well, you gotta you gotta do what you gotta do. 1:11:38.840 --> 1:11:41.679 I gotta get going here, though, I appreciate you hanging 1:11:41.760 --> 1:11:44.560 in there. I appreciate you serving on a jury. You 1:11:44.600 --> 1:11:47.200 wouldn't believe how many people want to get out of 1:11:47.280 --> 1:11:47.680 doing that. 1:11:47.960 --> 1:11:49.479 So I appreciate you. 1:11:51.120 --> 1:11:52.560 Thanks, Michael, Okay, thank you. 1:11:53.320 --> 1:11:55.240 Yeah, you know what, I figured that that was going 1:11:55.320 --> 1:11:59.679 to come up sometime today. The way, there's a case 1:11:59.880 --> 1:12:03.400 I think it was in the late eighties, Graham versus Connor. 1:12:03.880 --> 1:12:08.439 That's the Supreme Court case that determines liability for police 1:12:08.479 --> 1:12:09.960 officers in these type of things. 1:12:10.160 --> 1:12:12.880 And the Supreme Court was smart enough to. 1:12:12.920 --> 1:12:15.720 Write into their decision you got to view it from 1:12:15.760 --> 1:12:19.599 the officer's perspective. What just like the College just said, 1:12:19.640 --> 1:12:23.200 what is in his mind at the time, and it 1:12:23.479 --> 1:12:28.000 is split second. So anyway, it's Graham versus Connor. It's 1:12:28.120 --> 1:12:34.680 really an unusual case and that it's readable even for attorneys. 1:12:34.760 --> 1:12:37.320 So anyway, Hey, you got to break for the news. 1:12:37.360 --> 1:12:40.280 When we get back, I'm going back to the phones. 1:12:41.040 --> 1:12:45.759 Mike Allen, Saturday Midday, our three of the Saturday Midday 1:12:45.880 --> 1:12:50.920 program got Ken Cobra FOP President coming up at eleven thirty. 1:12:51.400 --> 1:12:53.560 We've got open lines here, but if you would just 1:12:53.680 --> 1:12:56.760 please indulge me, I promise it won't take that long. 1:12:57.200 --> 1:13:00.400 This thing has been sticking in my craw from earlier 1:13:00.479 --> 1:13:05.120 in the week. Do you remember the judge in Milwaukee 1:13:05.479 --> 1:13:10.840 that there was an illegal immigrant in her courtroom. I 1:13:10.880 --> 1:13:14.240 don't even remember what that person was there for, but 1:13:14.360 --> 1:13:18.519 at any rate, the judge shepherded to this guy through 1:13:18.640 --> 1:13:23.880 her back door, and I guess somebody helped him escape 1:13:23.960 --> 1:13:25.920 and they got him. They got him a little bit later. 1:13:26.000 --> 1:13:31.080 But the judge, her actions were just abominable. Well, anyway, 1:13:31.920 --> 1:13:34.559 she lost her job, she left the band. She's trying 1:13:34.600 --> 1:13:38.000 to make herself a hero, saying I'm doing this for 1:13:38.600 --> 1:13:42.360 her exact words, and this is from an up ed 1:13:42.439 --> 1:13:44.479 in the Wall Street Journal. I am pursuing this fight 1:13:44.560 --> 1:13:49.920 for myself and for our independent judiciary, she says, I 1:13:50.120 --> 1:13:54.200 am the subject of unprecedented legal proceedings. I am pursuing 1:13:54.280 --> 1:13:57.800 this fight for myself and our independent judiciary. 1:13:58.200 --> 1:13:59.040 You know what that is? 1:13:59.240 --> 1:14:00.519 Such boy crap. 1:14:01.240 --> 1:14:05.880 She committed a crime, she I believe, went a trial, 1:14:06.120 --> 1:14:09.160 I think I'm not sure was a jury trial, and 1:14:09.320 --> 1:14:10.040 found guilty. 1:14:10.760 --> 1:14:11.920 You can't do that. 1:14:12.880 --> 1:14:16.240 You can't do it as a citizen. You certainly cannot 1:14:16.400 --> 1:14:17.960 do it as a judge. 1:14:18.120 --> 1:14:18.840 And she says. 1:14:19.680 --> 1:14:22.880 At the end of this thing, Judge Dugan says, her 1:14:23.040 --> 1:14:28.360 case threatens the quote independence of our judiciary. And again 1:14:28.400 --> 1:14:30.680 this is the Wall Street Journal op ed. But her 1:14:30.800 --> 1:14:35.679 actions intentionally helped a migrant accused of assault for federal 1:14:35.760 --> 1:14:40.760 law enforcement. Her example is a sad commentary, a sad 1:14:40.840 --> 1:14:45.360 but necessary lesson to other judges who let partisanship trump 1:14:45.479 --> 1:14:49.040 their obligations as officers of the court. 1:14:49.439 --> 1:14:52.880 Well done, Wall Street Journal. This woman is no hero. 1:14:53.760 --> 1:14:55.360 She's no hero whatsoever. 1:14:55.720 --> 1:15:01.360 She's not pursuing the fight for an our dependent judiciary. 1:15:01.800 --> 1:15:05.800 We do have an independent judiciary. Judges can't break the law, though, 1:15:06.200 --> 1:15:09.320 Judge Dugan, and and I'm sorry you lost your job. 1:15:09.920 --> 1:15:14.760 But uh, perhaps judges, if this ever happens again, or 1:15:14.840 --> 1:15:17.960 any elected official, public official is in a position to 1:15:18.080 --> 1:15:20.800 do that, they don't do it. So she's got nobody 1:15:20.840 --> 1:15:23.400 to blame it herself. Okay, let's see. Let's talk to 1:15:23.640 --> 1:15:28.360 fran In Mason. Hey, frank to good good? 1:15:28.479 --> 1:15:30.360 How you doing nor good? 1:15:30.439 --> 1:15:30.599 Hey? 1:15:30.680 --> 1:15:35.320 I was trying to call the three congress people that 1:15:36.120 --> 1:15:41.400 voted to continue to spend money wastelessly. And guess what 1:15:41.680 --> 1:15:45.000 if you try to call a US congress person you're. 1:15:44.920 --> 1:15:46.040 Not going to be able to do it. 1:15:46.720 --> 1:15:51.080 What was this locally, friend or Minnesota? That's this is 1:15:51.520 --> 1:15:52.200 here in Ohio. 1:15:52.720 --> 1:15:56.559 Really, Yeah, you try to call a congress person their 1:15:56.840 --> 1:15:59.040 quote voicemail isn't working. 1:16:00.360 --> 1:16:02.240 That's crazy, man, that's crazy. 1:16:02.439 --> 1:16:02.920 That's crazy. 1:16:03.200 --> 1:16:06.080 Usually, I mean I've done it before, not for a while, 1:16:06.160 --> 1:16:09.160 and boom, I get a real human being right off 1:16:09.240 --> 1:16:09.639 the bat. 1:16:10.640 --> 1:16:12.519 That's an all three. 1:16:12.360 --> 1:16:14.360 Of them, huh, all three of them. 1:16:14.439 --> 1:16:18.960 So just as an fyi, hey, also, just your newscaps 1:16:19.479 --> 1:16:24.720 the news at ten thirty blames the measle epidemic. 1:16:25.320 --> 1:16:28.680 This is WLW reporting this, okay, on. 1:16:29.560 --> 1:16:34.680 People not vaccinating their kids of a disease that was 1:16:34.760 --> 1:16:36.599 eradicated years ago. 1:16:38.120 --> 1:16:39.479 Yeah, it's our fault. 1:16:39.680 --> 1:16:44.720 His parents not to inject young babies for something that 1:16:44.800 --> 1:16:49.280 they didn't need. They didn't blame the twenty million people 1:16:49.400 --> 1:16:52.720 that came from the armpit of the world into our 1:16:52.800 --> 1:16:56.920 country who were not vaccinated, who may carry who knows 1:16:57.040 --> 1:16:57.719 what disease. 1:16:58.240 --> 1:17:01.240 No, I understand that, and I have in the course 1:17:01.280 --> 1:17:04.080 of doing this job a number of times people have 1:17:04.240 --> 1:17:06.720 not agreed with the newscast. The thing of it is 1:17:07.000 --> 1:17:10.519 that's separate from the talk radio part of it. I 1:17:10.640 --> 1:17:13.240 do hear what you're saying, and I appreciate you letting 1:17:13.240 --> 1:17:13.439 me know. 1:17:14.560 --> 1:17:17.599 Yep, Okay, thank you God bless man. 1:17:17.720 --> 1:17:19.160 Okay you two frand thanks. 1:17:19.600 --> 1:17:20.000 Yeah, you know. 1:17:20.320 --> 1:17:23.360 There are two separate things, but I get what he's saying. Hey, 1:17:23.479 --> 1:17:27.439 how's about Jay in Centerville? Hey, good morning, Jay? 1:17:27.520 --> 1:17:35.400 How are you Jay there? I'm good, I'm good. What 1:17:35.560 --> 1:17:36.200 you got for me? 1:17:37.240 --> 1:17:39.040 Oh you know, I'm the I'm the one that's the 1:17:39.160 --> 1:17:43.600 people refugee from the people's public Portland. A lot of 1:17:43.680 --> 1:17:49.160 DejaVu with Minnesota. Yeah, craziness. I called it to respectfully 1:17:49.240 --> 1:17:54.200 disagree with your caller. Okay, So two things. I saw 1:17:54.760 --> 1:17:59.760 an overhead view camera where his leg was clearly brushed. 1:17:59.439 --> 1:18:00.880 By the car the police officer. 1:18:01.040 --> 1:18:06.320 So yeah, absolutely, and that's all over Facebook. It's I 1:18:06.360 --> 1:18:09.200 don't know where that shot came from, but it's definitely 1:18:09.280 --> 1:18:12.960 not AI. It's it's real and his leg was hit. 1:18:13.120 --> 1:18:15.680 So the other thing I keep hearing as well, her 1:18:15.760 --> 1:18:18.120 tires will turned to the right, Her tires were turned right. 1:18:18.360 --> 1:18:19.080 He doesn't know that. 1:18:19.840 --> 1:18:23.479 All he knows is that there's and they's been and 1:18:23.520 --> 1:18:26.200 then she's been told to get out to stop. I 1:18:26.320 --> 1:18:30.240 also read that she ran around harassing those guys all 1:18:30.360 --> 1:18:34.080 day for several days prior to this incident. That she's 1:18:34.160 --> 1:18:39.439 a social justice warrior, and you know it's it's her fault, 1:18:39.920 --> 1:18:43.760 but you don't impede a police officer. Now, if I 1:18:43.880 --> 1:18:47.520 saw if I saw a beat cop in downtown Cincinnati 1:18:47.680 --> 1:18:50.439 arresting somebody, and I didn't feel like it was the 1:18:50.560 --> 1:18:52.880 right thing, there's no way I'm getting in the middle 1:18:52.880 --> 1:18:56.000 of that. So why is an ice officer different than 1:18:56.040 --> 1:18:56.599 a beat cop? 1:18:56.640 --> 1:18:58.000 And since that they're not been. 1:18:57.960 --> 1:19:02.200 Brainwashed by the politicians that these people are hurt legitimate 1:19:02.920 --> 1:19:04.840 and she got herself killed. 1:19:05.479 --> 1:19:07.760 And it is a sad thing, But what did the 1:19:07.800 --> 1:19:10.439 Vice president say? It's a tragedy of her own making. 1:19:11.080 --> 1:19:14.240 And it's just obvious to me. And I wasn't convinced 1:19:14.320 --> 1:19:17.800 until last night when I saw that last video because 1:19:17.840 --> 1:19:19.719 the other ones weren't really good angles. 1:19:20.200 --> 1:19:23.559 That's exactly what she tried to do to hit the officer. 1:19:23.680 --> 1:19:26.000 And we talked about it just a minute ago, Graham 1:19:26.120 --> 1:19:30.840 versus Connor, that case stands for the proposition one proposition 1:19:31.000 --> 1:19:34.760 that you got to put yourself in the position of 1:19:34.880 --> 1:19:38.160 that cop at the time it's happening, at the time 1:19:38.240 --> 1:19:40.679 the cops got to make a split second decision. 1:19:41.000 --> 1:19:42.400 You can't second guess. 1:19:42.960 --> 1:19:46.479 So I think it's been he's been hit by a 1:19:46.560 --> 1:19:47.879 car before, exactly. 1:19:48.320 --> 1:19:52.680 I heard that, and you know what, that would be 1:19:52.800 --> 1:19:56.760 factored into it too. But you know, again, I wish 1:19:56.800 --> 1:20:00.360 people could turn the temperature down a litt little bit 1:20:00.439 --> 1:20:02.560 on this thing. But you know what, that's just not 1:20:02.720 --> 1:20:04.559 the way it is in today's day and. 1:20:04.600 --> 1:20:05.479 Age, you know. 1:20:05.760 --> 1:20:10.360 And and how irresponsible is she for having all those 1:20:10.479 --> 1:20:14.479 children go out on the road, leave Colorado, go to 1:20:14.600 --> 1:20:20.320 Minneapolis to go harass police officers, chase them around and 1:20:20.400 --> 1:20:23.800 impede their duties while she has three kids sitting at home. 1:20:23.880 --> 1:20:24.960 It's a hell of an example. 1:20:26.120 --> 1:20:26.280 You know. 1:20:27.080 --> 1:20:27.639 It's a shame. 1:20:27.840 --> 1:20:32.439 I appreciate the call, Thanks Mike, Okay, thank you. Yeah. 1:20:32.479 --> 1:20:34.599 I mean I can't stress it enough. And I dealt 1:20:34.640 --> 1:20:35.720 with it. As a prosecutor. 1:20:36.439 --> 1:20:39.200 You have to put yourself in the position of the 1:20:39.240 --> 1:20:43.559 police officer at the time and at the place where 1:20:43.920 --> 1:20:47.920 the uh, the death happened. You kind of have to 1:20:48.000 --> 1:20:51.640 substitute what he's thinking for what you're thinking. He or 1:20:51.720 --> 1:20:55.400 she and the Supreme Court I think it was the 1:20:55.479 --> 1:20:55.960 mid eighties. 1:20:56.000 --> 1:20:58.720 I'm not sure. Gave us some good guidance on that 1:20:58.920 --> 1:20:59.479 in that case. 1:21:00.160 --> 1:21:03.000 You know what, maybe someday we'll discuss that case, uh 1:21:03.280 --> 1:21:06.960 in detail, because it's interesting and obviously time worthy. 1:21:07.439 --> 1:21:07.519 Uh. 1:21:07.800 --> 1:21:11.679 Tim in Minnesota, Oh wants to talk about Minnesota. I'm sorry, 1:21:12.160 --> 1:21:13.560 sorry I put you in Minnesota? 1:21:13.640 --> 1:21:16.519 Tim? Are you there? 1:21:19.040 --> 1:21:19.320 Tim? 1:21:20.000 --> 1:21:24.759 All right? Hopefully you'll call back. Jeff and Zenia? Hey, Jeff, 1:21:24.800 --> 1:21:25.200 what's up? 1:21:26.080 --> 1:21:26.240 Hey? 1:21:26.280 --> 1:21:26.880 Good morning, Mike. 1:21:26.920 --> 1:21:27.040 Hey. 1:21:27.120 --> 1:21:30.000 Before I get started, I'd like to commend you on 1:21:30.760 --> 1:21:33.559 being one of the talk show hosts there that actually 1:21:33.680 --> 1:21:35.160 take calls, because there's quite. 1:21:35.000 --> 1:21:35.960 A number of them on there. 1:21:36.720 --> 1:21:37.880 I hear the all. 1:21:38.160 --> 1:21:39.000 I hear that a lot. 1:21:39.920 --> 1:21:40.160 Yeah. 1:21:40.280 --> 1:21:42.639 Well, because also too, you know, we have a voice 1:21:42.640 --> 1:21:45.280 out here too, and everybody's got their opinion on things. 1:21:45.640 --> 1:21:47.280 And I just wish more of them did as much 1:21:47.280 --> 1:21:49.880 as you did, because a lot of them said, don't 1:21:49.920 --> 1:21:51.680 take calls at all, and they have different guests on, 1:21:51.840 --> 1:21:53.360 you know, every time, every day of the week, and 1:21:53.479 --> 1:21:53.760 it's just. 1:21:54.160 --> 1:21:56.799 You know, that's not what talk radio is about, exactly, 1:21:57.120 --> 1:22:00.320 And that's that's I agree with you on that. I mean, 1:22:00.360 --> 1:22:02.559 other guys can do what they want, but I enjoy 1:22:02.680 --> 1:22:05.640 taking calls. I think it's important I. 1:22:05.680 --> 1:22:06.280 Think it is too. 1:22:07.120 --> 1:22:09.720 Besides that, I got to I mean, I've got to 1:22:09.920 --> 1:22:13.479 compliment a couple of other callers too, because as a 1:22:13.560 --> 1:22:15.679 person who lives in the United States, when a cop 1:22:15.760 --> 1:22:18.400 gives you a command, you better listen to them, or, 1:22:18.760 --> 1:22:21.560 as Jdvan says, you put yourself in a position that 1:22:21.880 --> 1:22:25.320 may not turn out well for you and people. You know, 1:22:25.720 --> 1:22:28.200 we're growing up now where you know, all these YouTube 1:22:28.280 --> 1:22:30.679 videos show you what to do if a cop talks 1:22:30.720 --> 1:22:32.560 to you, what stops you, and what you can do, 1:22:32.720 --> 1:22:35.760 what you can't do. And the other thing is too. 1:22:35.800 --> 1:22:38.719 A lot of these people these protests, if they're being paid, 1:22:39.200 --> 1:22:41.559 you know, to do that. They're there for a specific reason, 1:22:41.640 --> 1:22:45.320 and it's not basically to promote happiness and well being. 1:22:45.439 --> 1:22:48.880 They're there to torment as well as agitate as well 1:22:48.920 --> 1:22:52.280 as basically confront the cops just to get a reaction 1:22:52.520 --> 1:22:54.640 so you can have a situation like they did in 1:22:54.640 --> 1:22:58.400 the Cincinnati where they get paid us nice substantial little 1:22:58.439 --> 1:22:59.640 stump some for doing so. 1:23:00.880 --> 1:23:03.479 Yeah, I mean, and I'm sorry, go ahead, go ahead, No, 1:23:03.680 --> 1:23:05.760 go ahead, go ahead. Well I was just going to say, 1:23:05.800 --> 1:23:09.320 I mean, you're absolutely right about that. I wouldn't want 1:23:09.360 --> 1:23:11.400 to be a cop in today's world at all, with 1:23:11.760 --> 1:23:14.880 everything that's going on, and I believe they are getting paid. 1:23:14.920 --> 1:23:17.920 I think I mentioned earlier in the program. I'm watching 1:23:18.160 --> 1:23:22.240 somebody's coverage of it, probably Fox yesterday, and the u 1:23:22.960 --> 1:23:26.120 was a Fox reporter was talking to this person as 1:23:26.200 --> 1:23:28.760 Laura Ingram, that's right, that's right, that's right, And the 1:23:28.880 --> 1:23:31.800 lady said, or a little bit of an argument, and 1:23:32.040 --> 1:23:35.400 the protester said, well, I am working, which indicates to 1:23:35.520 --> 1:23:39.559 me somebody's paying her, probably a George Soros type. 1:23:39.400 --> 1:23:43.360 Person exactly, or she could be working for a company. 1:23:43.439 --> 1:23:43.720 This is. 1:23:43.800 --> 1:23:45.719 Hey, you know you want to go out and protest, 1:23:45.800 --> 1:23:47.519 go ahead, just like a lot of the schools in 1:23:47.600 --> 1:23:49.320 the area too. That yeah, you know, they'll let the 1:23:49.360 --> 1:23:53.120 schools out to go have a little little protest parade, 1:23:53.400 --> 1:23:55.640 you know, because they don't like X, Y or Z. 1:23:55.880 --> 1:23:56.040 You know. 1:23:56.120 --> 1:23:58.040 And wait a minute, I thought when we used to 1:23:58.120 --> 1:23:59.880 go to school, you know, that's what we were going too, 1:24:00.479 --> 1:24:02.719 not to basically go out and do a little parade 1:24:02.720 --> 1:24:05.000 down the street showing hey, we're supporting this or we're 1:24:05.000 --> 1:24:05.519 supporting that. 1:24:05.680 --> 1:24:05.800 You know. 1:24:05.920 --> 1:24:08.880 It's yeah, it's and that shows direct proportion on the 1:24:08.960 --> 1:24:11.080 fact that the teachers now are the ones that are 1:24:11.200 --> 1:24:14.800 cheerleading these students and you know, tell them, Okay, you 1:24:14.880 --> 1:24:16.160 need to be justice warriors. 1:24:16.240 --> 1:24:17.720 You need to do this, and you need to do that. 1:24:18.120 --> 1:24:20.599 And that's another reason why are schools everything else are 1:24:20.640 --> 1:24:22.639 in such the position that they are, is because we're 1:24:22.720 --> 1:24:25.240 not teaching what people need to learn so that they 1:24:25.400 --> 1:24:27.000 go out and actually live life. 1:24:27.240 --> 1:24:28.400 You know, you are so right. 1:24:28.760 --> 1:24:31.000 About a month or so ago, I got on the 1:24:31.080 --> 1:24:36.560 website of the NEA and ac ANYA National Education Association 1:24:37.360 --> 1:24:41.120 at AFT American Federation and Teachers whatever they are. 1:24:41.080 --> 1:24:42.040 Two big unions. 1:24:42.479 --> 1:24:47.280 I did not see one thing about how are we 1:24:47.400 --> 1:24:50.320 going to get our kids to get their test scores up? 1:24:50.479 --> 1:24:53.160 How are we going to teach math? Every time they. 1:24:53.160 --> 1:24:58.479 Open their mouth, it's just all liberal radical politics. They 1:24:58.560 --> 1:25:01.559 ought to do their damn job and bring our math 1:25:01.760 --> 1:25:05.400 and our reading scores up. They are they're completely out 1:25:05.439 --> 1:25:08.640 of control. They don't They could care less about the 1:25:08.760 --> 1:25:09.280 kids they. 1:25:09.320 --> 1:25:12.479 Teach exactly one one quick thing on. I know you've 1:25:12.479 --> 1:25:14.720 got other people, so I'll get going. You know, the 1:25:14.800 --> 1:25:17.200 schools have been having this problem for a long time. 1:25:17.439 --> 1:25:19.320 You know, you've got kids going into college now that 1:25:19.400 --> 1:25:21.519 either can't read aren't up to the snuff of what 1:25:21.800 --> 1:25:24.639 where they should be, and the teachers are the schools 1:25:24.680 --> 1:25:26.280 are looking back. We'll wait a minute, it's not our 1:25:26.360 --> 1:25:28.960 fault all wayminute, bull crap. You're the ones that has 1:25:29.040 --> 1:25:33.080 the responsibility to be teaching these students and you should 1:25:33.280 --> 1:25:36.760 hold them back when they are like COVID, you pushed 1:25:36.800 --> 1:25:39.960 the whole generation through in two years that had no 1:25:40.120 --> 1:25:42.880 business even going up to the next grade because most 1:25:42.960 --> 1:25:46.479 of them are on advance or remote learning and at 1:25:46.680 --> 1:25:49.000 fourth or fifty percent of the time, none of them 1:25:49.040 --> 1:25:52.160 are even showing up for that. So we've got multiple problems. 1:25:52.240 --> 1:25:53.200 But I'll let you go. 1:25:53.360 --> 1:25:55.439 Great show, Mike. I appreciate the fact that you do 1:25:55.600 --> 1:25:58.080 take a lot of calls and you know, keep at it. 1:25:58.200 --> 1:25:59.000 I really appreciate it. 1:25:59.160 --> 1:26:03.439 Okay, jehank you for the call. Let's talk to Bill 1:26:03.640 --> 1:26:07.160 in Kentucky. He wants to talk about paid agitators. Pretty 1:26:07.200 --> 1:26:07.960 much on topic. 1:26:08.200 --> 1:26:12.280 Hey Bill, how you doing, Oh just fine, covering a 1:26:12.320 --> 1:26:12.720 good day. 1:26:12.960 --> 1:26:16.120 Good And but I'll tell you somebody needs to be 1:26:16.280 --> 1:26:19.680 looked into this. You're right, that's a good word. You've 1:26:19.720 --> 1:26:23.200 got a good word for it. And now look up 1:26:23.280 --> 1:26:26.360 against the law. Now, somebody why are these people not 1:26:26.479 --> 1:26:29.800 being investigated and locked up to shut this stuff down? 1:26:30.560 --> 1:26:33.080 Well, I don't know that it's against the law, though, Bill. 1:26:34.040 --> 1:26:37.600 You know, well, I think it is because they're inciting 1:26:38.880 --> 1:26:40.639 agitating violence. 1:26:40.760 --> 1:26:44.200 Man, Well, inciting the violence. That's that's a crime in Ohio. 1:26:44.320 --> 1:26:46.760 But you've got to have a lot to be able 1:26:46.800 --> 1:26:49.720 to prevail on that. But I understand what you're saying, though. 1:26:51.160 --> 1:26:56.720 They somebody's kind of shut these people down. It's it's illegal. 1:26:56.800 --> 1:26:59.320 They could you know, they can all lawyers. They can 1:26:59.400 --> 1:27:02.040 always find a way to shut this stuff down. 1:27:02.320 --> 1:27:03.160 The government can. 1:27:03.720 --> 1:27:05.479 I mean, if anybody can do it, to be the 1:27:05.560 --> 1:27:10.760 government get these people and you know, penalize them. And 1:27:10.960 --> 1:27:14.160 if they find out they've been hire these people to 1:27:14.479 --> 1:27:17.000 go in the middle of the street and do all 1:27:17.080 --> 1:27:20.679 this stuff, they should be locked up there. They're complished, dude, 1:27:20.760 --> 1:27:22.000 they're in charge of. 1:27:22.360 --> 1:27:25.400 I hear you, Bill, I hear you. I appreciate the call. 1:27:25.439 --> 1:27:26.960 I got to try and get a couple more in 1:27:27.560 --> 1:27:30.160 thank you. Yeah, I don't know about that. There might 1:27:30.240 --> 1:27:34.880 be First Amendment issues there. I understand the frustration, believe me. 1:27:35.320 --> 1:27:38.160 And the first thing he asked, don't these people have jobs? 1:27:38.240 --> 1:27:41.240 Because this week It was a lot of it in 1:27:41.360 --> 1:27:45.120 the daytime too, so you know, I don't know that 1:27:45.240 --> 1:27:52.360 it's illegal, but it's very annoying. Let's talk to Randy. Hey, Randy, 1:27:52.760 --> 1:27:53.080 how you. 1:27:53.160 --> 1:27:55.519 Doing pretty good? 1:27:55.560 --> 1:27:57.000 And Mike, how were you good? 1:27:57.280 --> 1:27:57.479 Good? 1:27:57.880 --> 1:27:57.920 Go? 1:27:59.040 --> 1:28:00.200 First time I remember. 1:28:00.200 --> 1:28:04.880 Gotten through and it's nice to be you to get 1:28:04.960 --> 1:28:08.360 through to you because I've known you for years. You 1:28:08.479 --> 1:28:11.000 used to come in my businesses when I was downtown, 1:28:11.120 --> 1:28:12.439 in my Schuber prayer shops. 1:28:12.640 --> 1:28:16.720 Oh yeah, I did a lot, Yes, you did. 1:28:17.000 --> 1:28:23.640 Anyway, I believe our problem is the Democrats is the 1:28:23.840 --> 1:28:29.599 largest criminal organization in the United States. They get away 1:28:29.800 --> 1:28:32.360 with everything they want to get away with. 1:28:32.960 --> 1:28:34.360 Don't we don't. 1:28:34.240 --> 1:28:39.599 Impeach their Democrat president that obviously needed impeached. We got 1:28:39.720 --> 1:28:43.120 Democrat women that come out and say, go do violence 1:28:43.240 --> 1:28:45.680 on the street, and then they get to stay in 1:28:45.760 --> 1:28:49.559 their congressional seats. I don't understand why we're not getting 1:28:49.640 --> 1:28:52.280 rid of these people and getting them out of our government. 1:28:52.840 --> 1:28:55.280 Why should they be allowed to do it? If Trump 1:28:55.400 --> 1:29:00.439 says one thing misleading, there's fifty million pece on it. 1:29:01.160 --> 1:29:02.360 Yeah, it's just media. 1:29:03.439 --> 1:29:05.640 The media is owned by the Democrats. 1:29:06.240 --> 1:29:08.240 But you know what, and you're right, about that, Randy. 1:29:08.840 --> 1:29:12.640 But it's starting to get a little bit better. The 1:29:12.880 --> 1:29:16.240 Washington Post, believe it or not, had an op ed 1:29:16.360 --> 1:29:19.439 this week. I think it was on the Minnesota riots 1:29:19.520 --> 1:29:22.000 or whatever the hell it was, but they actually took 1:29:22.600 --> 1:29:28.240 not a moderate tone. It was actually a conservative tone. 1:29:28.520 --> 1:29:31.920 Little cracks are starting to happen. Uh But boy, I 1:29:32.040 --> 1:29:34.679 tell you, it's that that comes on top of years 1:29:35.000 --> 1:29:39.000 and years and years of outright bias. And I've been 1:29:39.080 --> 1:29:42.000 watching this stuff for a long time. It's better now 1:29:42.160 --> 1:29:44.640 than it used to be. But hey, I'm bumping up 1:29:44.640 --> 1:29:47.160 against the news here though. I appreciate the call, Randy. 1:29:47.280 --> 1:29:49.640 All Micha, Well, thank you for taking my call. I 1:29:49.680 --> 1:29:50.320 have a great thing. 1:29:50.360 --> 1:29:53.880 Okay, you too, thank you. Yeah, it's better than it was. 1:29:54.160 --> 1:29:56.639 I think I've said before. Back in the day, all 1:29:56.720 --> 1:30:02.000 you had ABC, NBC, CBS, that's it, and all we 1:30:02.200 --> 1:30:05.200 had was the National Review. It's a lot better now, 1:30:05.360 --> 1:30:08.880 thank god for Fox News. All Right, we got to 1:30:08.920 --> 1:30:10.519 take a break, but when we get back, we're going 1:30:10.600 --> 1:30:14.240 to talk to FOP president Ken Kober. I got some 1:30:14.400 --> 1:30:18.559 questions for him about this whole situation with paying off 1:30:18.880 --> 1:30:22.559 a family that tried to kill a cop and did 1:30:22.680 --> 1:30:25.560 kill a cop, the young one I think tried, but 1:30:26.200 --> 1:30:30.600 Sergeant Henderson was brutally murdered in the city of Cincinnati. 1:30:30.920 --> 1:30:33.799 At least some of them want to give that family 1:30:33.880 --> 1:30:34.280 some money. 1:30:34.479 --> 1:30:37.240 No, no, anyway, I'm going to talk to Ken about 1:30:37.280 --> 1:30:39.839 that when we get back, Mike Allen, Saturday Midday. 1:30:41.000 --> 1:30:46.800 The war on drugs drives on first dope running votes intercepted. 1:30:47.280 --> 1:30:51.320 Now the capture of Venezuela's president, will there be any 1:30:51.439 --> 1:30:57.000 more regime changes, countries invaded or cartels contained? Cheap it 1:30:57.120 --> 1:30:59.760 Here for the latest news Radio. 1:31:01.320 --> 1:31:05.599 L W how Stephen Curry and this is gentleman's cut. 1:31:06.080 --> 1:31:08.920 I think what makes gentlemen's cut different is me being 1:31:08.960 --> 1:31:11.400 a part of, you know, developing the profile. 1:31:11.880 --> 1:31:15.880 Hey, we're back, Mike Allen, Saturday Midday. Well. 1:31:16.000 --> 1:31:19.559 Fox nineteen reported earlier in the week that FOP President 1:31:19.680 --> 1:31:23.799 Ken Kober says Cincinnati City Manager Cheryl Long is quote 1:31:24.120 --> 1:31:28.759 scheming to secretly pay close quote the family of Rodney 1:31:29.000 --> 1:31:34.519 Hinton quote potentially millions in a settlement close quote over. 1:31:34.439 --> 1:31:35.960 The death of his son Ryan. 1:31:36.439 --> 1:31:39.720 This thing's got the entire town talking and well, at 1:31:39.720 --> 1:31:42.760 the end of the day, in my opinion, at least 1:31:42.840 --> 1:31:45.040 it comes down to what's right and what's wrong. 1:31:45.760 --> 1:31:48.360 The president is here, Ken, thanks so much for calling in. 1:31:49.760 --> 1:31:50.720 Sure Mike, thanks for having me. 1:31:51.280 --> 1:31:53.639 Uh, can you say as much as you can say 1:31:53.680 --> 1:31:56.439 about how this how this whole thing went down, because 1:31:56.479 --> 1:32:00.720 the city manager denies that it happened. I think I 1:32:00.880 --> 1:32:03.559 know who I believe, but can you kind of give 1:32:03.640 --> 1:32:05.800 us an overview of that and then we'll talk about 1:32:05.840 --> 1:32:06.760 the substance of it. 1:32:08.120 --> 1:32:08.320 Sure. 1:32:08.360 --> 1:32:10.280 So, I had a source from city hall that called 1:32:10.360 --> 1:32:15.280 me Thursday afternoon. Uh, made me aware that this is 1:32:15.320 --> 1:32:17.720 what's going on. You know, the city managers trying to 1:32:19.040 --> 1:32:23.040 settle and they actually had a tentative agreement, and that 1:32:23.240 --> 1:32:25.599 the city managers trying to keep this quiet and they 1:32:25.600 --> 1:32:27.840 were just going to kind of get this done, you know, 1:32:28.080 --> 1:32:31.000 out of the view of the public, which obviously was 1:32:31.120 --> 1:32:34.560 confirmed by Councilman Cramerton where he said we're going to 1:32:34.600 --> 1:32:36.200 be getting an update. We're going to talk about this 1:32:36.320 --> 1:32:39.040 in executive session. For those that don't know what executive 1:32:39.080 --> 1:32:42.320 session is, they kick the public out, you know, they 1:32:42.360 --> 1:32:46.919 have an executive session literally means that it's it's all protected, 1:32:46.960 --> 1:32:51.160 there's there's notes taken. The people inside are not supposed 1:32:51.160 --> 1:32:54.080 to discuss what happened or what's going to happen, And 1:32:54.439 --> 1:32:56.000 they said, he confirmed that. And if you look at 1:32:56.040 --> 1:32:59.639 the city manager's statement that she put out, she didn't 1:32:59.640 --> 1:33:04.759 deny that there are negotiations. She claims there's a tentative agreement. However, 1:33:05.200 --> 1:33:08.160 I was able to confirm that as I spoke to 1:33:08.800 --> 1:33:11.439 one of the officers involved that was the law department 1:33:11.520 --> 1:33:13.840 reached out to them to let them know that a 1:33:13.920 --> 1:33:15.280 tentative agreement had been reached. 1:33:16.040 --> 1:33:17.439 Let me ask you this, I mean, are you in 1:33:17.479 --> 1:33:20.120 a position to say what that agreement was? I don't 1:33:20.120 --> 1:33:23.040 want you to violate any any kind of trust or anything, 1:33:23.160 --> 1:33:25.600 but I thought i'd ask no. 1:33:25.760 --> 1:33:27.479 And that's the problem is. I started reaching out to 1:33:27.520 --> 1:33:30.560 council members. I go, hey, I understand there's there's some agreements, 1:33:30.760 --> 1:33:33.120 settlement agreements and reached. What do we talk about? How 1:33:33.160 --> 1:33:35.439 much money is this? And these council members are like, 1:33:35.439 --> 1:33:37.880 what are you talking about? She has no idea, you know, 1:33:38.040 --> 1:33:40.639 so we could say, you say that it's not secretive, 1:33:40.680 --> 1:33:42.360 but why does the city council know about this? 1:33:42.760 --> 1:33:45.600 That is, I'm telling you what that they don't know 1:33:45.680 --> 1:33:47.760 what the hell is going on down there? The left 1:33:47.800 --> 1:33:50.040 hand doesn't know what the right hand's doing. It's not 1:33:50.320 --> 1:33:52.880 just this, it's a hell of a lot of things. 1:33:53.400 --> 1:33:55.960 But I'm sure you know you've got two council members 1:33:56.040 --> 1:34:00.880 on that council that boy came out strongly in your favor, 1:34:01.040 --> 1:34:04.760 Jeff Kramerton and Seth Walsh. I mean, did you get 1:34:04.800 --> 1:34:06.439 to read what they had to say about it? 1:34:07.640 --> 1:34:12.160 Yeah, Actually, not not only those two, but Councilman Jefferies. 1:34:12.200 --> 1:34:14.120 He actually reached out to me Thursday night. 1:34:14.240 --> 1:34:15.040 Oh okay, And so. 1:34:15.160 --> 1:34:19.680 Ken, I'm completely against this. This is absolutely wrong and 1:34:19.920 --> 1:34:22.479 I'm against it. We shouldn't be doing this, and we're 1:34:22.479 --> 1:34:23.920 going to do what we have to do to stop this. 1:34:24.720 --> 1:34:26.679 And then, as well as I've been told, I haven't 1:34:26.680 --> 1:34:29.599 been able to confirm this yet that Scotti Johnson as 1:34:29.640 --> 1:34:32.280 well as against this. I don't know how any council 1:34:32.320 --> 1:34:33.400 member can be for this. 1:34:33.840 --> 1:34:34.479 I don't either. 1:34:34.640 --> 1:34:37.479 I mean, I just want to read one or two 1:34:37.600 --> 1:34:41.000 sentences about what council Member Walsh said, because he said 1:34:41.040 --> 1:34:44.960 it so well. It is a tremendous disrespect to the 1:34:45.040 --> 1:34:48.400 families involved, and to make a public spectacle out of 1:34:48.439 --> 1:34:51.600 a tragedy, I think it's unconsionable for the City of 1:34:51.680 --> 1:34:56.120 Cincinnati to be considering a settlement without the full deliberation 1:34:56.240 --> 1:35:00.679 of council. The tragedy that unfolded and made devastated our community, 1:35:01.040 --> 1:35:05.000 and is our responsibility to heal the wreckage, not to 1:35:05.160 --> 1:35:10.400 create more division and kremiting. Statement was strong as well, 1:35:10.800 --> 1:35:14.120 So obviously you do have some support there. Let's talk 1:35:14.160 --> 1:35:16.599 about the guts of it, though, Ken, I mean, it's 1:35:16.720 --> 1:35:21.439 bizarre when you think about it. The legislative body, Cincinnati 1:35:21.479 --> 1:35:24.840 City Council and the city Manager are apparent, and some 1:35:25.040 --> 1:35:27.960 on Council, not all, are apparently thinking about giving a 1:35:28.120 --> 1:35:35.400 settlement to a family whose family member killed a police officer, 1:35:35.760 --> 1:35:38.839 a deputy sheriff up there at UC directing traffic, Sergeant 1:35:38.880 --> 1:35:43.479 Anderson in just the most horrible way possible. A lot 1:35:43.560 --> 1:35:46.719 of people are scratching their heads on this one, Ken, saying, 1:35:46.840 --> 1:35:48.040 what the hell are they thinking? 1:35:49.439 --> 1:35:51.000 Yeah, you know, you know, I've been around a police 1:35:51.040 --> 1:35:54.360 department near the twenty six years and one of the 1:35:54.439 --> 1:35:56.560 hardest things that I had to do Thursday before I 1:35:56.640 --> 1:35:59.320 went to the media to talk about this. What's contacting 1:35:59.360 --> 1:36:02.080 the Hendersons and letting them know, Hey, this, this is 1:36:02.120 --> 1:36:03.640 what's gonna happen. I didn't want them to see this 1:36:03.720 --> 1:36:06.160 in the media. First. I wanted them to be able 1:36:06.200 --> 1:36:08.760 to hear it before it got out there, that this 1:36:09.000 --> 1:36:11.720 was this is a potential, you know, thing that was 1:36:11.760 --> 1:36:14.120 going on, and that that they also had my support 1:36:14.160 --> 1:36:15.519 that I was going to do everything that I can 1:36:15.640 --> 1:36:19.200 to stop this from happening. And they, certainly you were thankful, 1:36:19.280 --> 1:36:21.400 and they're the same way. They're they're scratching their head, 1:36:21.439 --> 1:36:24.960 going how how can they possibly do this? It just 1:36:25.040 --> 1:36:28.880 doesn't make any sense. It only further, you know, you know, 1:36:28.920 --> 1:36:32.560 it has the emotions running high, victimizes, you know, the 1:36:32.600 --> 1:36:35.719 Henderson's even further, it's not enough. You know that Deputy 1:36:35.800 --> 1:36:38.760 Henderson was viciously murdered. Yep, and now on top of it, 1:36:38.840 --> 1:36:42.120 we're somehow going to give a settlement to this family 1:36:42.120 --> 1:36:43.200 if it doesn't make any sense. 1:36:43.520 --> 1:36:47.040 Do you think the votes are on enough votes are 1:36:47.080 --> 1:36:48.320 on council to stop it? 1:36:50.240 --> 1:36:50.880 I certainly hope. 1:36:50.920 --> 1:36:50.960 So. 1:36:51.360 --> 1:36:54.479 Yeah. My understanding talking to some of these council members 1:36:54.560 --> 1:36:57.479 is they're going to do everything they can uh to 1:36:57.600 --> 1:37:00.280 make sure if this gets brought to a vote, which 1:37:00.400 --> 1:37:03.400 I certainly hope it does, that they're going to have 1:37:03.640 --> 1:37:06.599 the moral compass to vote against us. 1:37:07.320 --> 1:37:09.559 They have to, and now I know some of them will, 1:37:09.680 --> 1:37:12.560 you know, they'll pontificate and say, hey, you know, we 1:37:12.720 --> 1:37:14.120 had to do this because we didn't want to go 1:37:14.200 --> 1:37:17.080 to trial and get hit with a huge judgment, which 1:37:17.160 --> 1:37:17.680 they would not. 1:37:18.479 --> 1:37:18.599 Uh. 1:37:19.080 --> 1:37:21.400 But it'll be interesting to see at the end of 1:37:21.439 --> 1:37:21.760 the day. 1:37:21.800 --> 1:37:24.960 Obviously, I hope that it all comes out that they said, well, 1:37:25.560 --> 1:37:28.439 that was a bad idea, We're not going to do it. Uh, 1:37:28.520 --> 1:37:31.439 they do go, as you mentioned, going to executive session. 1:37:31.479 --> 1:37:35.439 It's Monday. Do you expect to have some resolution or 1:37:35.600 --> 1:37:38.400 maybe getting close to a resolution by the. 1:37:38.520 --> 1:37:39.080 End of the day. 1:37:40.960 --> 1:37:43.439 I certainly hope. So, you know, I hope the resolution 1:37:43.720 --> 1:37:46.240 is we're going to fight. We're going to port these 1:37:46.320 --> 1:37:48.600 officers and we're going to fight this. And I'll be 1:37:48.640 --> 1:37:50.240 honest with you, you know, years down the day if 1:37:50.240 --> 1:37:52.880 they want to file aallsuit, file a lawsuit. Years down 1:37:52.960 --> 1:37:57.720 the road, if a judge somehow determines that the hint 1:37:57.760 --> 1:38:00.600 and family should be paid. Now, I can live with that, 1:38:01.479 --> 1:38:05.120 but I can't live with the city saying no, we're 1:38:05.160 --> 1:38:07.240 just going to settle. They should fight this. They should 1:38:07.280 --> 1:38:11.000 show the Cincinai police officers, especially when you had, you know, 1:38:11.120 --> 1:38:14.840 a new prosecutor that investigated this, went over all the 1:38:14.880 --> 1:38:18.840 evidence for weeks, and then determine that the officers did 1:38:18.880 --> 1:38:21.800 absolutely nothing wrong. They followed their training, they followed the law. 1:38:22.640 --> 1:38:23.479 That's what're fighting for. 1:38:23.840 --> 1:38:25.000 You're absolutely right about. 1:38:25.120 --> 1:38:28.479 She obviously made the right call, and in some cases 1:38:28.840 --> 1:38:31.360 they'll send it to grand jury and let them decide 1:38:31.680 --> 1:38:33.760 the grand jury of course, you know, as a tool 1:38:33.800 --> 1:38:37.000 of a prosecutor. But she made a strong decision and 1:38:38.080 --> 1:38:40.800 for her and her party it may not have been 1:38:40.920 --> 1:38:44.320 particularly popular, but she did the right thing. I mean, 1:38:44.720 --> 1:38:47.280 I think overall, I think she's doing a really good 1:38:47.400 --> 1:38:50.760 job for whatever my opinion is worth. But she made 1:38:50.800 --> 1:38:52.519 the right call on this one. It should have been 1:38:52.640 --> 1:38:56.320 case closed. But you know how that goes in government, 1:38:56.479 --> 1:39:00.840 especially Cincinnati City Council. What's the feeling among the street 1:39:00.960 --> 1:39:04.160 cops can about this. I mean, let's just say a 1:39:04.240 --> 1:39:06.760 new officer on a couple of years or something like that, 1:39:07.280 --> 1:39:09.000 and they got to be scratching her head too. 1:39:10.560 --> 1:39:10.760 Yeah. 1:39:10.920 --> 1:39:13.799 I've had officers not only from the Cincinnati Police Department, 1:39:13.840 --> 1:39:17.680 but from the Sheriff's Department expressing their support for me 1:39:18.280 --> 1:39:21.160 to bring this to light, to fight this because they're 1:39:21.479 --> 1:39:24.240 they're they're beyond just being mad. I mean, they are 1:39:24.840 --> 1:39:29.719 absolutely just frustrated. I mean they can't believe that something 1:39:29.800 --> 1:39:31.799 like this would happen. And then the Sincinoni police officers 1:39:31.800 --> 1:39:33.280 they're saying the same thing, like wa just said, what 1:39:33.479 --> 1:39:36.640 are we doing? This isn't just this isn't just a 1:39:36.800 --> 1:39:39.840 criminal that was shot and killed by a police officer. 1:39:40.360 --> 1:39:42.960 This family the next day went out and viciously murdered 1:39:43.040 --> 1:39:45.160 a sheriff's deputy that had nothing to do with any 1:39:45.200 --> 1:39:48.439 of this. So this isn't just about paying somebody that 1:39:48.640 --> 1:39:51.760 was committing crimes that ended up dying because they made 1:39:51.800 --> 1:39:54.320 some really really poor choices and put an officer in 1:39:54.400 --> 1:39:56.960 danger who had to save their own life. It's what 1:39:57.120 --> 1:39:59.760 happened the next day that makes us even more egregious. 1:40:00.120 --> 1:40:01.439 And I can tell you there are a lot of 1:40:01.560 --> 1:40:05.000 officers that are absolutely furious that are paying attention to 1:40:05.040 --> 1:40:07.080 what's going on. And when we talk about you know, 1:40:07.200 --> 1:40:09.799 city council and the city administrations, and while we support 1:40:09.840 --> 1:40:12.559 the police that we've given you guys raises, we've done 1:40:12.640 --> 1:40:15.040 recruit classes, those are all things that they should be 1:40:15.120 --> 1:40:18.240 doing anyway. Yep, you're right, about that, but standing up now, 1:40:18.400 --> 1:40:20.559 standing up now and saying, you know what, if they 1:40:20.640 --> 1:40:22.799 want to sue a sue us, We're going to defend 1:40:22.880 --> 1:40:26.799 these officers and we're going to make sure that everything 1:40:26.880 --> 1:40:28.960 comes out. And at the end of the day it 1:40:29.040 --> 1:40:30.760 judge goes, I'm dismissing this case. 1:40:30.800 --> 1:40:33.200 I don't agree with this, you know, And at some 1:40:33.400 --> 1:40:37.599 point even politicians have to take a stand and make 1:40:37.680 --> 1:40:41.120 a principal decision. And boy, this is like exhibit A 1:40:41.360 --> 1:40:43.840 for that. And I guess we'll have to wait and see. 1:40:44.439 --> 1:40:46.920 I did want to ask you too about Chief Fiji. 1:40:47.479 --> 1:40:50.200 I guess the story now is the law firm that 1:40:50.320 --> 1:40:52.240 was hired, which is a good law firm, making no 1:40:52.680 --> 1:40:56.200 versions on casting those versions on them, said well we 1:40:56.320 --> 1:41:00.519 couldn't find anything. City council said, well, take about another month, 1:41:00.640 --> 1:41:02.760 you know, and see what she can do. I mean 1:41:02.880 --> 1:41:05.760 that's how it appears to me, and I think that's 1:41:05.800 --> 1:41:08.519 how it appears to the general public too. I mean 1:41:08.640 --> 1:41:09.719 she's getting screwed. 1:41:11.360 --> 1:41:13.400 Yeah, but I understand this isn't This isn't a city 1:41:13.479 --> 1:41:16.760 council saying take more time. This is my city administration. 1:41:16.880 --> 1:41:19.920 This is a city manager saying okay, well, We're going 1:41:20.000 --> 1:41:22.240 to take some more time to think about this. It's 1:41:22.360 --> 1:41:26.880 it's absolutely insane. I mean, they found nothing. All they 1:41:27.000 --> 1:41:29.320 found is, oh, there's a couple officers that don't like 1:41:29.400 --> 1:41:32.040 the chiefs. Well, you know that's been going on as 1:41:32.120 --> 1:41:34.840 long as police departments have existed. You know, there's some 1:41:34.920 --> 1:41:36.559 people are going to like the chief, some people are 1:41:36.600 --> 1:41:38.800 not going to like the chief. The bottom line is 1:41:39.320 --> 1:41:42.240 there is no just cause to fire her, and now 1:41:42.360 --> 1:41:44.640 they're in such a predicament that what are they going 1:41:44.720 --> 1:41:44.880 to do? 1:41:45.479 --> 1:41:45.679 Yep? 1:41:46.200 --> 1:41:48.840 The only answer for them to do is to pay 1:41:48.880 --> 1:41:51.600 her some kind of of retirement package. 1:41:52.800 --> 1:41:53.320 To retire. 1:41:53.560 --> 1:41:56.280 Yeah, because anything short of that, there's no scenario where 1:41:56.320 --> 1:41:58.559 she's going to come back. You know, that's just who 1:41:58.560 --> 1:42:01.519 would want to work in these toxic canis after you know, 1:42:01.560 --> 1:42:04.559 they're questioning your effectiveness and all of a sudden they 1:42:04.600 --> 1:42:06.599 find nothing. How do you come back in and work 1:42:06.640 --> 1:42:07.320 for these same people? 1:42:07.640 --> 1:42:07.680 No? 1:42:07.880 --> 1:42:09.760 I get it, I get you know what, And if 1:42:09.760 --> 1:42:11.960 there is a settlement, they're going to have to back 1:42:12.080 --> 1:42:15.080 the Brinks truck up down at City Hall because she's 1:42:15.160 --> 1:42:18.160 going to tag them butt good. She's got great counsel 1:42:18.240 --> 1:42:20.120 on it. I mean, I hope and I had her 1:42:20.160 --> 1:42:22.080 family in here. Was it last week or maybe the 1:42:22.160 --> 1:42:25.479 weekend before talking about it. She's got a pretty darn 1:42:25.560 --> 1:42:27.840 good record too, is chief. And some of the things 1:42:27.920 --> 1:42:31.600 that she's done, it just it makes no sense. It 1:42:31.720 --> 1:42:34.880 makes the city look stupid, It makes the city look petty. 1:42:35.080 --> 1:42:37.519 And as you and I have talked a number of times, 1:42:38.000 --> 1:42:42.519 but for Issue five and taking away civil service protection 1:42:42.680 --> 1:42:45.600 for the chief and the lieutenant colonels, we wouldn't be 1:42:45.680 --> 1:42:46.720 having this conversation. 1:42:46.920 --> 1:42:47.439 I don't think. 1:42:48.560 --> 1:42:50.320 No, you're right, But if we can give eight point 1:42:50.360 --> 1:42:54.439 one million dollars to people that were violently protesting in 1:42:54.560 --> 1:42:57.559 twenty twenty, well, then certainly we can give somebody who 1:42:57.600 --> 1:43:00.640 has an impeccable record for thirty five years that has 1:43:00.680 --> 1:43:03.320 been treated wrong. We can certainly make sure that they 1:43:03.360 --> 1:43:05.800 can live a comfortable retirement. Yep, you would think so. 1:43:06.720 --> 1:43:08.680 You know, I was talking to somebody this week. I 1:43:08.760 --> 1:43:11.320 forget who it was, about being a police officer and 1:43:11.439 --> 1:43:14.760 recruitment and things like that. Today, I think ken and 1:43:14.880 --> 1:43:16.920 you correct me if I'm wrong. Last time we talked, 1:43:17.840 --> 1:43:20.280 I think you said that they had openings the city 1:43:20.360 --> 1:43:22.920 did have money for I don't know it was a 1:43:23.040 --> 1:43:25.960 class of thirty or something like that, and they couldn't 1:43:26.200 --> 1:43:30.519 fill that class, which just was mind boggling compared to 1:43:30.600 --> 1:43:33.720 how it used to be. Was the city able to 1:43:33.800 --> 1:43:36.960 find these police officers so they can put that class on? 1:43:38.240 --> 1:43:38.280 No? 1:43:38.439 --> 1:43:41.920 So, is this lateral class that they financed for thirty 1:43:42.000 --> 1:43:44.240 officers is going to start here at the end of 1:43:44.280 --> 1:43:46.240 the month. Oh good with seven officers? 1:43:46.680 --> 1:43:46.720 What? 1:43:47.560 --> 1:43:48.080 Oh man? 1:43:48.160 --> 1:43:49.679 I thought you were going to say the full compliment. 1:43:49.960 --> 1:43:53.640 That is just the bizarro world for somebody who's as 1:43:53.680 --> 1:43:56.200 old as me, And you're not as old as me 1:43:56.320 --> 1:43:58.400 by any stretch, but I'm sure you remember it too. 1:43:58.840 --> 1:44:02.000 That damn convention center was backed to the gills. There 1:44:02.040 --> 1:44:04.360 are a couple thousand people there that wanted. 1:44:04.120 --> 1:44:04.719 To be cops. 1:44:05.720 --> 1:44:07.679 You know, when I took the test in early two thousands, 1:44:07.960 --> 1:44:10.160 there were about four thousand people that took the test, 1:44:11.080 --> 1:44:14.800 and out of the four thousand, they chiseled that down 1:44:14.880 --> 1:44:18.240 to a list of approximately one hundred officers. Out of 1:44:18.320 --> 1:44:21.320 four thousand, that's what they hired, one hundred. They had 1:44:21.360 --> 1:44:24.679 two classes of roughly fifty, and then they had another 1:44:24.760 --> 1:44:27.519 test the following year where they had another three or 1:44:27.560 --> 1:44:29.680 four thousand people take the test. And now if we 1:44:29.760 --> 1:44:32.320 can get four or five hundred people to take a test, 1:44:32.400 --> 1:44:32.840 we're lucky. 1:44:33.000 --> 1:44:34.599 And that's just sad. 1:44:34.840 --> 1:44:38.879 I mean, obviously it's an honorable profession and it shouldn't 1:44:38.880 --> 1:44:39.320 be that way. 1:44:39.360 --> 1:44:41.479 But you know what, I don't blame young people at all. 1:44:41.600 --> 1:44:45.920 I mean, my goodness, look at the situation in Minneapolis, 1:44:46.160 --> 1:44:47.639 and I wanted to ask you. If you don't want 1:44:47.680 --> 1:44:49.880 to talk about this, I get it, but I wanted 1:44:49.880 --> 1:44:52.280 to ask you your thoughts on what went on out 1:44:52.320 --> 1:44:56.320 there this week and the decision with respect to the 1:44:56.560 --> 1:45:03.600 ice officer using deadly force. Uh A damn suv is 1:45:03.640 --> 1:45:05.840 headed right at you. Do you have any thoughts on 1:45:05.960 --> 1:45:07.360 that at all that you'd like to share? 1:45:08.560 --> 1:45:08.640 Well? 1:45:08.680 --> 1:45:10.519 Yeah, I mean it's clear that now that more of 1:45:10.560 --> 1:45:13.120 these videos are coming out, that this officer was struck 1:45:13.160 --> 1:45:16.280 by this vehicle. You know, should that officer have been 1:45:16.360 --> 1:45:17.960 in front of the vehicle if you watch the video, 1:45:17.960 --> 1:45:20.000 at least some of the videos that I've seen, you know, 1:45:20.120 --> 1:45:22.200 he was going around the vehicle, looking at it, looking 1:45:22.240 --> 1:45:24.519 at the license plate, some of these things. I don't 1:45:24.520 --> 1:45:27.000 think he'd believed for a second that this person was 1:45:27.080 --> 1:45:27.880 just going to take off. 1:45:28.080 --> 1:45:28.280 Yep. 1:45:28.640 --> 1:45:31.560 You know there's certain situations where, of course you have 1:45:31.680 --> 1:45:34.080 to be mindful of somebody that's in a vehicle, but 1:45:34.200 --> 1:45:37.680 the vehicles parked, And I don't I don't believe in 1:45:37.840 --> 1:45:40.599 Like I said, I can't possibly know what was going 1:45:40.680 --> 1:45:43.559 through this officer's mind. But you know, one would assume, Okay, 1:45:43.560 --> 1:45:45.800 at the vehicle's park I'm walking around it, you know, 1:45:46.640 --> 1:45:47.800 I do I want to stay in front of it. 1:45:47.920 --> 1:45:50.439 He was clearly moving. Wasn't like he was just standing 1:45:50.479 --> 1:45:52.280 in front of it, putting his hand up like you 1:45:52.320 --> 1:45:57.000 should stop right, you know, But police thing, it is difficult. 1:45:57.479 --> 1:46:00.800 You know, things happened in a split second and before 1:46:00.840 --> 1:46:02.519 you know it, you have a vehicle coming at you 1:46:02.560 --> 1:46:03.800 and you're trying to get the heck out of the 1:46:03.840 --> 1:46:05.960 way exactly. So this officer did what he thought he 1:46:06.000 --> 1:46:08.320 had to do to save his own life. That's what 1:46:08.439 --> 1:46:13.000 he did. So we'll see what the interviews say. But ultimately, 1:46:13.439 --> 1:46:16.840 you know, these officers, they have a right to protect themselves, 1:46:17.280 --> 1:46:20.200 especially when you have a vehicle coming at you. Yeah, 1:46:20.280 --> 1:46:22.439 the Supreme Court has said this time after time. If 1:46:22.479 --> 1:46:25.840 you just look at the officer from Blendon Township that 1:46:25.960 --> 1:46:28.000 was just on trial for murder up in Franklin, County 1:46:28.040 --> 1:46:30.599 that was just acquitted by a jury for a very 1:46:30.840 --> 1:46:35.160 very similar circumstance. So clearly that jury said, no, we're 1:46:35.200 --> 1:46:37.160 falling the law. This officer fall the law. I don't 1:46:37.160 --> 1:46:38.240 see that this is any different. 1:46:38.680 --> 1:46:39.200 I don't either. 1:46:39.360 --> 1:46:42.160 And we talked earlier in the show with a caller 1:46:42.200 --> 1:46:44.880 about Graham versus Connor, which I'm sure you know is 1:46:44.960 --> 1:46:47.720 the Supreme Court case that says, among other things, that 1:46:48.400 --> 1:46:52.479 in judging these things, you have to put yourself in 1:46:52.600 --> 1:46:56.680 the position of that officer at the exact moment and 1:46:57.000 --> 1:47:02.800 before the death happened. You can't substitute your opinion for 1:47:02.880 --> 1:47:05.400 what he or she should have done. I mean, I 1:47:05.479 --> 1:47:09.640 can't imagine being in a split second thing like that, 1:47:09.840 --> 1:47:12.519 where you know, I'll wait a minute, what do I 1:47:12.640 --> 1:47:15.880 do while the car runs over you? But I want 1:47:15.880 --> 1:47:18.160 to ask you one more question. I'm just curious about this. 1:47:18.840 --> 1:47:23.679 Take Minnesota. You got Ice there aggressively but appropriately doing 1:47:23.800 --> 1:47:28.200 their job. Then you have the Minneapolis police who are, 1:47:28.520 --> 1:47:31.680 from what I can see, working against Ice, and they 1:47:31.720 --> 1:47:34.280 were interviewing the cheap the other day, and you know, 1:47:34.560 --> 1:47:35.520 I'm just thinking. 1:47:35.840 --> 1:47:39.439 These are cops. Cops stick up for each other, cops 1:47:39.600 --> 1:47:41.519 cover over for each other. 1:47:42.200 --> 1:47:45.560 Does that put those local police officers beat cops in 1:47:46.360 --> 1:47:48.719 Minneapolis in a bad place? 1:47:48.880 --> 1:47:49.960 I would think that it would. 1:47:51.479 --> 1:47:54.280 Well, sure it does, because you have what your oath says, 1:47:54.360 --> 1:47:56.800 what you swore to do, right, do you swore to 1:47:56.880 --> 1:48:01.080 protect the constitution? You swore to enforce laws, and then 1:48:01.160 --> 1:48:05.439 now you have politicians saying, well, I don't like this law, 1:48:05.560 --> 1:48:07.920 so I don't want you to enforce it. The answer is, 1:48:07.960 --> 1:48:10.400 if they don't like these laws, why don't they go 1:48:10.520 --> 1:48:14.280 petition these lawmakers and change the law. That's how it's 1:48:14.320 --> 1:48:16.880 done in a civilized society. It's not no, well we're 1:48:16.920 --> 1:48:19.200 not going to enforce this law because we don't like it. 1:48:19.640 --> 1:48:21.640 We don't get that. We don't get that opportunity. We 1:48:21.960 --> 1:48:23.680 don't get to be able to say I don't like 1:48:23.760 --> 1:48:25.280 this law, I'm not going to enforce it. That is 1:48:25.320 --> 1:48:28.360 absolutely wrong thing to do. They should be going to Washington, DC, 1:48:28.520 --> 1:48:31.840 on Capitol Hill and telling these lawmakers we don't like this, 1:48:32.280 --> 1:48:34.240 we don't like what's going on, we don't like these laws. 1:48:34.320 --> 1:48:36.400 We demand you change them. That's how things are done 1:48:36.439 --> 1:48:38.600 in a civilized society. Yeah, and it's the way it 1:48:38.760 --> 1:48:40.360 used to be done in this country. Too. 1:48:41.120 --> 1:48:43.000 I mean, what do you think about the street cop, 1:48:43.439 --> 1:48:47.000 you know, getting directions from on high Hey, you can't 1:48:47.040 --> 1:48:49.880 cooperate with ICE blah blah blah. And police officers being 1:48:50.200 --> 1:48:52.400 who they are and what they are, they want to 1:48:52.479 --> 1:48:55.479 cover over for their fellow officers. But they're in a 1:48:55.600 --> 1:48:56.839 really difficult position. 1:48:57.000 --> 1:49:02.200 I guess well they are. But you know, thankfully, especially 1:49:02.320 --> 1:49:05.640 something like that here happened in Cincinnati, you have a 1:49:05.680 --> 1:49:08.040 collective bargaining agreement, you have the FOP that is going 1:49:08.080 --> 1:49:10.400 to stand up for you when you do the right thing, 1:49:12.320 --> 1:49:14.760 and it's just it's a shame that these things are 1:49:14.840 --> 1:49:17.960 even going on. And this is you know, we went 1:49:18.000 --> 1:49:21.799 through this earlier in twenty twenty five where Mayor Pureval 1:49:21.880 --> 1:49:25.120 came out and said, yeah, we're not helping ICE, and 1:49:25.200 --> 1:49:27.800 I immediately put out a press relief saying, oh, yes 1:49:27.880 --> 1:49:30.720 we will, we absolutely will, because we're sworn to do this. 1:49:31.000 --> 1:49:31.200 Yeh. 1:49:31.479 --> 1:49:34.040 And thankfully I will say. Mayor Pureval said, listen, if 1:49:34.080 --> 1:49:36.320 they're doing it within the confines of the wall, I 1:49:36.439 --> 1:49:38.439 get it. These officers should be doing these things. It's 1:49:38.479 --> 1:49:42.200 not like we're not going out looking for you undocumented 1:49:42.280 --> 1:49:45.479 people that are that aren't here that's just we have many, 1:49:45.560 --> 1:49:47.160 many other things to be doing, and that's not the 1:49:47.280 --> 1:49:50.639 mission of local law enforcement. However, if a federal agency 1:49:50.720 --> 1:49:53.280 comes and says, hey, we need help, you best believe 1:49:53.320 --> 1:49:55.360 ever since a police officer's work, and if they hear 1:49:55.400 --> 1:49:57.080 a call for help, they're going to go there. You 1:49:57.160 --> 1:49:57.640 get how it is. 1:49:57.920 --> 1:49:59.920 Yeah, that doesn't surprise me. I just wish it was 1:50:00.040 --> 1:50:01.360 that way throughout the country. 1:50:01.439 --> 1:50:04.280 But hey, I really appreciate this, Ken, and I'm going 1:50:04.320 --> 1:50:06.680 to be watching this closely to see what happens with 1:50:06.840 --> 1:50:10.599 this whole situation with the settlement, and we'll talk again. 1:50:11.960 --> 1:50:14.000 Sure sounds good, Mike, thanks for having Okay, thank you. 1:50:15.400 --> 1:50:18.200 All right, that was FOP President Ken Kober. Well, I'll 1:50:18.240 --> 1:50:21.719 tell you what he is, really a good FOP president. 1:50:21.920 --> 1:50:27.840 He has the needs of his officers, puts it first 1:50:27.920 --> 1:50:30.640 and that sort of good FOP president has to do. 1:50:31.439 --> 1:50:35.760 CPD is lucky to have him. All Right, Well, that's 1:50:35.840 --> 1:50:38.560 it for me. I will be I think I'm in 1:50:38.680 --> 1:50:41.880 for Sloany on Tuesday this week, but of course i'll 1:50:41.920 --> 1:50:45.080 be back next Saturday for Saturday Midday. 1:50:45.200 --> 1:50:47.000 Mike Allen seven hundred WLW