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Speaker 1: News Radio seven hundred WLW Mike Allen and Saturday Midday nasty,

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Speaker 1: rainy Saturday morning. Well, i'll tell you what it's all

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Speaker 1: happening in Minnesota. The big story this week because a

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Speaker 1: thirty nine year old mother and teacher, her name was

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Speaker 1: Renee Nicole Good, because Ms Good didn't follow the instructions

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Speaker 1: of a law enforcement Also, she is now dead tragically,

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Speaker 1: and that is truly sad, but not surprising. I mean,

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Speaker 1: these people were itching for a fight for the longest time.

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Speaker 1: It's like the Vice President said, I'm going to quote

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Speaker 1: him directly, it was a tragedy of her own making.

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Speaker 1: And that's exactly what it was. And like I said,

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Speaker 1: the left's been itching for this for months. And why

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Speaker 1: you may ask yourself, why the hatred, why the contempt

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Speaker 1: for ice officers they're simply doing their jobs. Why do

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Speaker 1: these people continue to advocate for criminals who trespass into

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Speaker 1: our country over ordinary citizens like you and I. That's

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Speaker 1: something that I just can't figure out. We are citizens,

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Speaker 1: they're not, but they're more concerned with them. Here's just

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Speaker 1: an example of the type of person that they want

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Speaker 1: to protect. These are the libs that you Sanctuary City

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Speaker 1: the whole deal. And this is from the ICE website.

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Speaker 1: US Immigration and Customs enforcement officers launched the targeted Enforcement

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Speaker 1: Operation in Minnesota December thirty first to locate and apprehend

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Speaker 1: a dude named Mahad I'm not even gonna try the

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Speaker 1: middle name yousef. Illegal alien and convicted sex offender from Somaliam,

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Speaker 1: but thanks to the sanctuary pract policies of Minnesota Governor

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Speaker 1: Tim Waltz, assumed to be out the program. Governor Tim

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Speaker 1: Waltz and this guy, he's getting on my last nerve

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Speaker 1: Mayor Jacob Fry. This dan criminal was free to prowl

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Speaker 1: the streets and victimize Minneapolis residents for years, and you

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Speaker 1: know those are the people that they're concerned about.

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Speaker 2: I mean.

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Speaker 1: In addition, he committed a series of horrific crimes, including

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Speaker 1: a conviction for criminal sexual conduct in the first degree,

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Speaker 1: where he forced his victim to perform oral sex on

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Speaker 1: him multiple times. He was also arrested in twenty sixteen

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Speaker 1: for assaulting the first degree and has an active warrant

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Speaker 1: from twenty twenty four to four obstructing police. Now again,

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Speaker 1: why are we protecting this guy at the expense of

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Speaker 1: ordinary citizens?

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Speaker 3: I mean, why is he more important than us?

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Speaker 1: I think a little civics lesson is in order here.

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Speaker 1: You know, entering our country illegally, as we know, it's

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Speaker 1: a crime. And I'll tell you exactly what crime it is.

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Speaker 1: Eighteen United States Code thirteen twenty five. It's one of

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Speaker 1: the rare federal statutes that's pretty damn simple. Basically, it

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Speaker 1: prohibits entering the US at any time or place other

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Speaker 1: than as designated by immigration officers. And although they don't

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Speaker 1: call it this, it's a trespass into our country. Pretty simple,

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Speaker 1: one would think that. Well, continuing on the civics lessons here,

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Speaker 1: Congress enacted that law eighteen USC. Thirteen to twenty back

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Speaker 1: in nineteen fifty two, and they did it to keep

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Speaker 1: people who did not want to become citizens the right way,

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Speaker 1: to keep them the hell out of here. So again,

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Speaker 1: it's been round since nineteen fifty two. So Congress in

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Speaker 1: that year, made up then of Republicans and Democrats, as always,

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Speaker 1: passed this legislation. Well, continuing in the civics lesson, the

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Speaker 1: next question is who is going to enforce that statue

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Speaker 1: that I just read. Of course it's ice it is

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Speaker 1: their job, not just their job but their sworn duty

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Speaker 1: to enforce federal law, and that's what they do, or

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Speaker 3: And if the Democrats and the looney left.

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Speaker 1: Don't like it, it's just like the Second Amendment, change it,

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Speaker 1: change the law, repeal it, and just what the hell

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Speaker 1: let everybody in. If they don't like the law, they

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Speaker 1: can change it. Congress passed it, they can change it.

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Speaker 1: But they don't want to do that because they know

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Speaker 1: they won't get the votes needed. Again, just like the

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Speaker 1: Second Amendment, repeal it. If you don't like it, good

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Speaker 1: luck with that too. So ICE agents are demonized for

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Speaker 1: the simple act of doing their job or doing the

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Speaker 1: job Congress commands them to do by eighteen United States

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Speaker 1: Code thirteen to twenty five. Instead, they're called Nazis, neo Nazis, Gestapo, racist, kidnappers, thugs.

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Speaker 1: And here's one that I just found out about the

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Speaker 1: other day that they're called slave members of the slave patrol.

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Speaker 3: Isn't that nice?

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Speaker 1: So you get members of Congress like Senator Chucky Schumer

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Speaker 1: last week saying that I'm quoting him here.

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Speaker 3: Ice causes death, ice death.

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Speaker 1: You know, while people like you and I, you know,

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Speaker 1: we're out working you got the pink haired, nose ring

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Speaker 1: And this week one of them said they were in

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Speaker 1: ice officer said, well, you're gonna have to leave or whatever.

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Speaker 1: She says, I'm working here, which I mean to me

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Speaker 1: means she's getting paid. And that's what you got now.

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Speaker 1: You know, when all the signs, not all of them,

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Speaker 1: but many of the signs look exactly the same, somebody

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Speaker 1: is paying for it. Everything on the left is performative.

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Speaker 1: They sing their silly little songs, chant their infantile slogans

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Speaker 1: with no substance whatsoever. I got a clip and I

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Speaker 1: will not make you listen to it very long. Just

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Speaker 1: a typical kind of democrat leftist hoot nanny at.

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Speaker 3: I think this one was Minnesota. Could you play that please?

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Speaker 4: All right?

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Speaker 1: That's enough, you get it. You know they love that song.

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Speaker 1: But think about it. This land is your land, and

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Speaker 1: if they're singing it to me, damn straight, it's my land.

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Speaker 1: And if the person singing it saying this land is

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Speaker 1: my land is the United States citizen. Fine, but it's

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Speaker 1: not the land of illegal aliens. They are not supposed

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Speaker 1: to be there. You know, you have about half of

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Speaker 1: the elected leaders saying basically screw you.

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Speaker 3: To us.

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Speaker 1: And to the trespassers, we love you and we'll protect

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Speaker 1: you because he's even though you snuck into our country.

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Speaker 1: Kind of perplexes you, doesn't it at least it does me.

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Speaker 3: And I'm telling you what, it's getting old. It really is.

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Speaker 1: I mean, Trump, he cleaned up the mess that Biden

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Speaker 1: left behind. I don't know how many hundreds of thousands

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Speaker 1: of people he's gotten the hell out of there. He's

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Speaker 1: got a hell of a lot more to go.

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Speaker 5: You know.

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Speaker 1: Another thing that honked me off and bought And I

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Speaker 1: don't think I'm the only one this situation with the

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Speaker 1: city of Cincinnati wanting to pay out a possible settlement

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Speaker 1: for the family of eighteen year old Ryan Hinton.

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Speaker 3: He's the guy that was shot in a police.

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Speaker 1: Not a shootout, but they all had guns there. He

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Speaker 1: came around, I guess besides a dumpster. Clearly from the video,

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Speaker 1: he kind of pointed the gun at the cop and

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Speaker 1: he lost his life for that. And again, it's not

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Speaker 1: good when that happens to anybody. But again he put

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Speaker 1: himself in that position. But the big brew haha this week,

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Speaker 1: council wants to pay for that justifiable shooting or justified shooting.

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Speaker 1: County pillach Our County prosecutor, I think wisely said that

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Speaker 1: this is a legitimate police shooting. It's legal. You know,

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Speaker 1: you had some on counsel though, and I gotta hand

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Speaker 1: it to him. Jeff Kramerning has won. He said, I

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Speaker 1: think the city's position is that the officer has not

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Speaker 1: done anything wrong. Thank you so much, council Member Kramerding.

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Speaker 1: I see nothing in the video contrary to that. I

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Speaker 1: do not feel a settlement is warranted. I think that

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Speaker 1: would send the wrong message to the Cincinnati police. And

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Speaker 1: you know, really that statement from him is really important.

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Speaker 1: There is another council member who's of the same ILK.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you about him in a minute, but

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Speaker 1: I commend Jeff Kramerding for that. He's going to catch

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Speaker 1: all kinds of crap from his fellow council members and

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Speaker 1: some of his constituents, but he took a position.

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Speaker 3: Okay, Seth Walsh, he's another one.

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Speaker 1: I met him a couple of weeks ago, pretty impressive

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Speaker 1: young man. Here's what he said. He called the situation abhorrent.

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Speaker 1: He talked to the inquirer and he said the community

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Speaker 1: is owed an explanation about why the settlement with the

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Speaker 1: Hitting family is even on the table and why deliberated

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Speaker 1: apparently without Council's knowledge behind closed doors. Here's what council

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Speaker 1: Member Wall said, quote, it's a tremendous disrespect to the

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Speaker 1: families involved, and to make a public spectacle out of

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Speaker 1: a tragedy.

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Speaker 3: Oh, the left is real good at that.

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Speaker 1: Council member, I think it is unconsonable for the City

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Speaker 1: of Cincinnati to be considering a settlement.

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Speaker 3: Without the full deliberation of council.

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Speaker 1: The tragedy that unfolded in made devastated our community, and

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Speaker 1: it is our responsibility to heal the wreckage.

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Speaker 3: Not to create more division.

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Speaker 1: You know what that statement, if there were any Republicans

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Speaker 1: on council, could have come from a Republican. And again,

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Speaker 1: I met him a couple of weeks ago at some event,

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Speaker 1: and an impressive young man who obviously thinks for himself,

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Speaker 1: so he got to at least sticking up for the cops.

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Speaker 1: But and I was interviewed yesterday on the legal end

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Speaker 1: of this thing. By Fox nineteen. I mean, here's the deal.

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Speaker 1: Sometimes municipalities and companies whatever, will throw some money at

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Speaker 1: somebody to get out of them, get around them filing

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Speaker 1: a lawsuit. It's called a nuisance settlement. Something tells me

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Speaker 1: they ain't talking nuisance settlement on this, and that's beside

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Speaker 1: the point. And these two council members hit it right

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Speaker 1: on the head. They hit the nail right on the head.

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Speaker 1: You can't do that. You can't put that on the cops. Look,

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Speaker 1: I did it. I was in this position. Connie Pillich

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Speaker 1: made the right call. And it's one of the toughest

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Speaker 1: things a prosecutor has to do, and that is that

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Speaker 1: that shooting was constitutionally justified. Why in God's name the

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Speaker 1: city of Cincinnati is ready willing and able apparently to

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Speaker 1: h oh open up the vault down there on Plum

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Speaker 1: Street and pour money out is beyond me.

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Speaker 3: Well, I know why.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you know, the majority of counsel wants to

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Speaker 1: appease a certain constituency. Hey, at eleven thirty today, we've

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Speaker 1: got FOP President Ken kober Uh, We're gonna give me

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Speaker 1: get him on the line to talk about this and boy,

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Speaker 1: he is worked up about it. And I don't blame him.

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Speaker 1: You know, the city gives out money like it's freaking candy.

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Speaker 1: You know, they got they got bopped on the fire chief.

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Speaker 1: They're gonna get if at the end of the day,

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Speaker 1: if a chief Thiji does not keep her job, they're

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Speaker 1: gonna have to roll the Brinks truck up to Plumb

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Speaker 1: Street down there at City Hall because she's gonna hit

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Speaker 1: the jackpot. But she and her family and I and

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Speaker 1: I think a lot of other people want her to

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Speaker 1: continue to be the police chief. Apparently, what happened the

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Speaker 1: law firm that the city hired Frost Brown Todd. Apparently

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Speaker 1: they said, well, we didn't find anything, and so the

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Speaker 1: city managers said, well get out there. You got another month,

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Speaker 1: you got till February. See what you can do. That

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Speaker 1: is just outrageous, it really, but it's typical for the

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Speaker 1: city and the left hand never seems to know what

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Speaker 1: the right hand is doing with these people. But you know,

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Speaker 1: I just want to read one quote from Ken Kober

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Speaker 1: and again we're going to have him at eleven thirty.

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Speaker 1: This is what he said talking about this whole situation

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Speaker 1: with paying the hinting family. This is an absolute outrage.

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Speaker 1: Crime literally pays in Cincinnati under this city manager. It's

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Speaker 1: a slap in the face to every law enforcement officer

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Speaker 1: risking their lives, a betrayal of the public trust, and

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Speaker 1: a disgusting messages that's that targeting cops has no consequences.

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Speaker 3: And he is so right, he's so right about that.

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Speaker 1: You just you can't do this, and you know, I mean,

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Speaker 1: obviously it wasn't him, but his father the very next

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Speaker 1: day killed a police officer brutally with his vehicle, killed

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Speaker 1: It's a tough, tough time to be a police officer,

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Speaker 3: Hey Louise, how you doing?

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Speaker 6: Hi? Mike.

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Speaker 7: I'm really anxious to talk today because even before this

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Speaker 8: I'm thinking that.

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Speaker 7: Kid was fourteen. First of all, he stole the car.

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Speaker 7: Let's not forget the Henderson family. Let's not forget the

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Speaker 7: The following week because that was the UC graduation. Were

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Speaker 7: I want them to add to that he's a racist.

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Speaker 7: the hell kind of father is he that he raised

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Speaker 7: It, right, So let everyone know there's a two parts

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Speaker 10: That's all I got to say.

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Speaker 1: And that's plenty. Luise, thank you so much for that call.

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Speaker 11: Morning Mike. I would just want to make two points

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Speaker 11: They Yeah, they needed a martyr. And the whole situations

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Speaker 1: And again, if you look at it, a lot of

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Speaker 3: So I smelled George Soros in it.

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Speaker 11: Of course, of course I read just finally I read

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Speaker 9: How's it going, sir?

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Speaker 3: Pretty good? How about you?

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Speaker 12: I have a legal question for you. I was, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: You know what?

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Speaker 1: And I saw that's what you wanted to talk about.

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Speaker 1: I was thinking about it. There is provision I believe,

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Speaker 12: You know, I live in another part of the state,

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Speaker 1: Well, he it's if somebody can do it, I think

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Speaker 1: I mean, giving that family money after what happened is

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Speaker 6: That and giving those protesters money, Ah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, talk to mister Soros about that.

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Speaker 12: Take your pick. You know, the city ought to prevent

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Speaker 1: Well, you know what, and like I said, when I

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Speaker 13: You're more in Mike Kids always I love your programs

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Speaker 13: and I'm I'm I'm sort of like incognito, your reporter

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Speaker 9: This every week, you know. So basically, I wanted to

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Speaker 9: About going to it, probably about twenty five years ago.

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Speaker 14: We pay for everything.

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Speaker 9: the or friends, the prisoners, the widows, uh, kids without

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Speaker 9: come to dead all. I mean, we're a very generous country.

437
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Speaker 9: But if you're if you're going to screw us from

438
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Speaker 9: people that don't want to assimilate to our culture. They

439
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Speaker 9: don't want to learn how to speak English if they

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Speaker 9: want to be on welfare. Well, like they were stating

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Speaker 9: the Washington, uh meetings they're having right up there, the

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Speaker 9: uh you know, the the the Republicans are doing a

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Speaker 9: uh trying to get the facts basically about you know, what's.

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Speaker 3: The congressional investigation. Yeah.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, this is probably what Jane is going to be

446
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Speaker 9: sharing with the lot of us too. And man, she's

447
00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:42,800
Speaker 9: such a great report. I would love her to dig

448
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Speaker 9: into Columbus because, uh, you know, we're not as bad

449
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Speaker 9: as Minnesota, but we do have that stuff. And the

450
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Speaker 9: current mayor he's just useless. His name is Andrew Gunther,

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Speaker 9: and he is For instance, he has said we are

452
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Speaker 9: a sanctuary city, uh, but yet has never come out

453
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Speaker 9: and been bold enough to say worse sanctuary said so

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Speaker 9: in other words, everything's under the rug, you know. And

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Speaker 9: and he's patronizing this and then it is a political

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Speaker 9: it's a political coup. These Democrats, they do this, letting

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Speaker 9: them b Johnson told some of his cronies. He told

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Speaker 9: anybody that was running for office back in his day, says,

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Speaker 9: you got to learn how to pad the box.

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Speaker 2: Yet the ballot box.

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Speaker 3: They're padding it up there.

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Speaker 1: Hey, Unfortunately, Ransom, I got to get some of these

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Speaker 1: other callers. But okay, thanks for keeping us posted on Columbus.

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Speaker 1: If you would continue to do that, I'll.

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Speaker 3: Take your call every time, all right.

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Speaker 9: But yeah, it's basically long story short is that we've

467
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Speaker 9: probably got people that have been on welfare for over

468
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Speaker 9: ten years or more and that abuse. If they could

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Speaker 9: just get the abuse on accountability happening, then I think

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Speaker 9: people would calm down a little bit more.

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Speaker 2: You know, I got you got God bless you mana

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Speaker 2: you Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I mean Ramson just said the word that it sums

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Speaker 1: it all up as to the solution for this crap,

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Speaker 1: and that's accountability. And Tampon Tim is not being accountable. Uh,

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Speaker 1: and the Attorney General is not being accountable at all.

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Speaker 1: And boy, I'm here, Ellison, Keith Ellison, I'm here, and

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Speaker 1: there might be some stuff dropping on him. I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: ask Janis about that when I talked to her in

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Speaker 1: a little bit. Hey, let's talk to Ryan in Hamilton. Hey,

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Speaker 1: how you doing Ryan?

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Speaker 14: Good?

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Speaker 3: Are you good? Good?

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Speaker 5: First off, I want to say rest Renane Nicole good.

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Speaker 2: She was shot in the face three times point link

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Speaker 2: Rains was turning the wheel away from an ice officer.

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Speaker 1: She was no, no, no, no no no, I'm not

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Speaker 1: gonna let you.

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Speaker 2: Did you did you?

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Speaker 3: Would you? Would you?

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Speaker 6: Let me?

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Speaker 5: You know what?

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Speaker 1: If you don't let me talk, I'm gonna hang up

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Speaker 1: on your ass. Did you see did you see the

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Speaker 1: last video Ken, the one that came out.

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Speaker 2: Yesterday talking to Celton footage.

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Speaker 1: No, I might have been body caim. I don't know,

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Speaker 1: it doesn't matter. He let me ask you something. How

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Speaker 1: many of these kind of shootings did you have to

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Speaker 1: rule it on?

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Speaker 2: I actually nobody's ruled on any of these.

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Speaker 1: I mean, the point I'm trying to make is I'm

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Speaker 1: not a know at all, but I've been there, I've

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Speaker 1: done that, and that is a good shooting.

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Speaker 3: Now let me say this. Will you shut up, Let

506
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Speaker 3: me say this. Let me say this.

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Speaker 2: Please, okay, go back fine and talk about pampon tim

508
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Speaker 2: and talking.

509
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Speaker 1: Like you're out of here and you're out of here.

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Speaker 1: You know what, learned how to be civil and you can.

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Speaker 1: I love going back and forth with these guys, but

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Speaker 1: they don't give you a chance.

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Speaker 3: What I was gonna say before, you.

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Speaker 1: Know, he the torrent of interruptions was I wasn't real

515
00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:09,640
Speaker 1: sure about it until I saw that last video. And

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Speaker 1: there's more evidence too, which makes it clear that that's

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Speaker 1: what that woman intended to do. And it is a

518
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Speaker 1: tragedy that she's gone. Apparently she has kids too, but

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Speaker 1: it's a tragedy of her own making. Like the Vice

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Speaker 1: president said, please, if you disagree with me, please call,

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Speaker 1: but let's have a discussion going back and forth. Oh

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you what. Hey, let's talk to Ken in Cincinnati. Hey, Ken,

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Speaker 1: how you doing all right?

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Speaker 14: Mike?

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Speaker 15: I do want to say happy new Year and maybe

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Speaker 15: prosperous and healthy to everyone out there real quick. When

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Speaker 15: they call us islamophobe, I call them Christian phobes.

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Speaker 3: Oh they can't do.

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Speaker 14: That, Boby.

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Speaker 11: So hey, you know what what they are.

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Speaker 3: They're immune from criticism.

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Speaker 1: Ken, don't you know that you're not a lot of

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Speaker 1: criticize them.

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Speaker 15: And the other thing too. The main reason why I

535
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Speaker 15: was calling is in the insurance businesses. Someone gets killed

536
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Speaker 15: while they're committing a crime, the insurance policy is not.

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Speaker 3: Going to pay the family.

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Speaker 15: So I'm tired of the city selling these cases with

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Speaker 15: people who are involved in criminal activity. And that includes

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Speaker 15: an eight point two million dollars settlement ugy so called

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Speaker 15: people mostly peaceful riots we're doing. So I hope someone

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Speaker 15: does folow a lawsuit uh to uh to contest that,

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Speaker 15: because it's just really crazy.

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Speaker 11: And then this whole thing with the latest with the

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Speaker 11: hinting case.

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Speaker 14: If the guy was involved.

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Speaker 15: In still in a car in criminal activity, but for that,

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Speaker 15: none of this will be happening.

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Speaker 1: You're right, and I appreciate the call and bumping up

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Speaker 1: against the news.

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Speaker 3: All right, God bless you man, you too, thank you,

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Speaker 3: thank you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know getting back to that last caller,

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Speaker 1: I mean, if you want a debate, let's debate. That's

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Speaker 1: what makes the world go around. But it turned into

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Speaker 1: a shouting match pretty quickly. Let's see, you know what

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Speaker 1: we are bumping up against the news. When we get back,

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Speaker 1: we're going to talk to Janis Heiseel. She's going to

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Speaker 1: give us an update. She filed three different stories this

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Speaker 1: week out of Minnesota. We'll get that, and then from

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Speaker 1: ten thirty to eleven thirty open lines for those of

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Speaker 1: you that are on hold. If you continue to hold,

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Speaker 1: I'll get y'all first, and we'll do that. Like I

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Speaker 1: said at ten thirty, we'll break for the news here

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Speaker 1: and then come back with Janis Heisel from the Epoch

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Speaker 1: Times seven hundred WLW, News Radio seven hundred WLW Mike

568
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Speaker 1: Allen with our two Saturday Midday. Well, our next stress

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Speaker 1: is going to tell us that there's more going on

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Speaker 1: in Minnesota than these protests. The investigation into the massive,

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Speaker 1: unprecedented fraud in that case continues. Janie Heisel of the

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Speaker 1: Epoch Times filed three stories on that subject this week,

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Speaker 1: and she's here to talk with us.

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Speaker 3: Janis, thanks so much for calling in.

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Speaker 4: Absolutely Thank you so much, Mike for having me. Before

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Speaker 4: we dive into the stories that I wrote, I would

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Speaker 4: like to take just a quick minute and tell the

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Speaker 4: listeners to please say a prayer for my colleagues who

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Speaker 4: are actually in Minnesota right now and amid all.

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Speaker 16: The character things that are going on, you.

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Speaker 4: Know, they there are reports from some of my colleagues

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Speaker 4: and other people there, other media people I've heard from that,

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Speaker 4: you know, when they've been kind of collateral damage. There's

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Speaker 4: been some less lethal munitions fired in the area when.

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Speaker 2: It you know, then the.

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Speaker 4: Shopner or actually the ubber bullets will hit some members

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Speaker 4: of media, and.

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Speaker 16: Yeah, it's really tough.

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Speaker 4: And I also wanted to point out the importance of

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Speaker 4: responsible media coverage and how a lot of citizens are

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Speaker 4: pushing back when things may not be that way. I

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Speaker 4: would like to point out from the Cincinnat enquire I.

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Speaker 16: Don't usually do something.

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Speaker 4: Like this, but my husband pointed this one out. Here's

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Speaker 4: the Facebook post. It says ice officers shot and killed

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Speaker 4: a woman observing ice activity in Minneapolis. In response, Cincinnati

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Speaker 4: joined national protests. Yeah, as you can imagine, citizens went

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Speaker 4: off in the comments.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what, and you're right, And usually I

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Speaker 1: don't see that filtering down to local media.

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Speaker 3: Jannis.

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Speaker 1: I mean, in all my time, I think they've been

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Speaker 1: overwhelmingly fair and unbiased.

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Speaker 3: It's mainly the national media.

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Speaker 1: But it's very appropriate for you to make that comment,

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Speaker 1: and I appreciate you letting us know.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I just thought people would like to know that,

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Speaker 4: you know, that's out there and there are people voiceeing

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Speaker 4: their opinion about that. So if you look, if you're

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Speaker 4: on Facebook, take a look at that, unless maybe and

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Speaker 4: him changed it by now, but I have a screenshot

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Speaker 4: of it. So anyway, Yeah, I'm glad to talk about

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Speaker 4: the stories that I've written. And yes, I like to

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Speaker 4: do more than just a sensational headline, right, I like

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Speaker 4: to look into what really is happening below.

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Speaker 16: The surface as much as I can.

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Speaker 3: Yep, you do it. You do that. Well, let me

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Speaker 3: ask you.

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Speaker 1: Your first story that I read Medicaid will claw back

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Speaker 1: fraud funds at doctor Oz. I guess had a press

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Speaker 1: conference about it, and his was about Medicare Medicaid I

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Speaker 1: forget which one. And they're digging into that one thing

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Speaker 1: I saw in that story. Jannis his agency, Doctor Oz's

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Speaker 1: agency can't find Ah, it's not really that much. Only

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Speaker 1: five hundred million dollars in these Medicare slash Medicaid payments.

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Speaker 3: I mean, that's just one believable.

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Speaker 4: Again, every time I think my jaw can't drop open anymore, ye, yeah,

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Speaker 4: latest news coming out of here, it does. And actually

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Speaker 4: Trump has pointed out that the fraud across our country,

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Speaker 4: not just Minnesota. But one of the things about Minnesota.

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Speaker 4: That does make it stand out is per capita, the

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Speaker 4: suspected and documented fraud is really really high for a

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Speaker 4: smaller state in parison to say California per person per capita,

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Speaker 4: if we cost that out, I don't have those figures

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Speaker 4: in front of me, and it's something we're still working on,

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Speaker 4: and I don't know if I can even get my

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Speaker 4: arms around it.

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Speaker 2: It's too big.

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Speaker 1: It's just hard to fathom at some point. And you know,

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Speaker 1: you know, doctor Oz said, good for him for saying,

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Speaker 1: is he's going to try to claw back the funds.

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Speaker 1: I'll bet when it comes to restitution if there's a

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Speaker 1: criminal conviction, there ain't gonna be a lot of money

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Speaker 1: to give back, unfortunately, because they spend that already. But

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Speaker 1: tell us a little bit more about what doctor Oz

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Speaker 1: had to say this week.

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Speaker 4: Well, he said that, look, you know, why should we

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Speaker 4: give you any more money if you don't have the

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Speaker 4: controls in place to make sure that this money is

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Speaker 4: actually going for the intended purpose. That's the bottom line

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Speaker 4: on that one.

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Speaker 3: And is it Medicare or medicaid? Janis I should know

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Speaker 3: medicaid Medicaid?

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Speaker 1: Okay, okay, Yeah, the other all stories are good This

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Speaker 1: is extremely interesting. Minnesota agency staff backdated records as auditors

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Speaker 1: found failures. I mean, that's big time bad and probably

657
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Speaker 1: criminal if they Ohio has a statue for tampering with records.

658
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Speaker 1: What's the story on that, I mean, how how are

659
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Speaker 1: they doing it backdating the records? If you know from

660
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Speaker 1: within your story, Well, there was.

661
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Speaker 4: A hearing where there's a person called the Office of

662
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Speaker 4: the Legislative Auditor and this this is an agency. It's

663
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Speaker 4: like a watchdog agency that's been within their Minnesota government

664
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Speaker 4: for many years and their job is to kind of

665
00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:15,560
Speaker 4: spot check different agencies, uh, to make sure that they

666
00:40:15,600 --> 00:40:18,759
Speaker 4: have financial controls in place, things that again, make sure

667
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Speaker 4: that the money is going for the intended purposes, that

668
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Speaker 4: they have the t's crossed, eyes dotted, things like that,

669
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Speaker 4: and uh so when they went into this agency, it's

670
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Speaker 4: a division of the Department of Human Services, which is

671
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Speaker 4: in essence the welfare department. Uh, the Department of Behavioral

672
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Speaker 4: Health is supposed to uh take care of some needs

673
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Speaker 4: for people who have substance abuse and things like that

674
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Speaker 4: and uh disabled and things like mentally mentally, uh people

675
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Speaker 4: with mental disorders and take care of those people.

676
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Speaker 3: And I think all of us, you know.

677
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Speaker 4: Would support those uses of funds. But when you go

678
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Speaker 4: in there and you're trying to make sure that that

679
00:40:56,920 --> 00:40:59,840
Speaker 4: money is going for those purposes, and then when you

680
00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:03,360
Speaker 4: start asking for records and they go, okay, where's the

681
00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:07,759
Speaker 4: proof that you visited and provided services or that the contractor?

682
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Speaker 4: They administer grants and I think it was like between

683
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Speaker 4: two hundred million and over three hundred million per year.

684
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Speaker 4: This agency is in charge of doling out grant money

685
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Speaker 4: to various providers. They go in and they go, well,

686
00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:24,040
Speaker 4: where's the proof that this agency.

687
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Speaker 2: Provided this service?

688
00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:29,120
Speaker 4: Yea, And then they created a record and they said, well,

689
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Speaker 4: we just forgot at the time of the visit to

690
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Speaker 4: document that we were there, you know, making sure that

691
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Speaker 4: this company was providing the contracted service under.

692
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Speaker 2: The grant money.

693
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Speaker 1: You know, you talked about the legislative auditor Judy Randall.

694
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Speaker 1: She in your story, she's quoted in her twenty seven

695
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Speaker 1: years of working for the watchdog agency. Randall said, quote,

696
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Speaker 1: I have never seen this before. Multiple employees fabricated the records,

697
00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:04,760
Speaker 1: she said, so we do believe it was a systemic effort.

698
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Speaker 1: I mean, that's big time fraud. If you've got a

699
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Speaker 1: bunch of people involved in it, which it looks like

700
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Speaker 1: that's the case there.

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Speaker 4: Well, I remember one fact is that it was in

702
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Speaker 4: February of twenty twenty five that they were that a

703
00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:26,000
Speaker 4: record was created after the audits began, and they were

704
00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:32,480
Speaker 4: documented visits that happened several months prior, and so that

705
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Speaker 4: is a huge concern. And one of the things that

706
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Speaker 4: was surprising to me that I hope to have time

707
00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:40,359
Speaker 4: to follow up on is they did not say during

708
00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:45,879
Speaker 4: the hearing whether what kind of action, if any, would

709
00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:50,480
Speaker 4: be taken against the multiple individuals that she the Legislative

710
00:42:50,520 --> 00:42:56,439
Speaker 4: Auditor identified as being these backdating you know, creating.

711
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Speaker 1: Records and at the same time they're going after whistleblowers. Yeah,

712
00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:04,759
Speaker 1: it doesn't make any sense, but it's not surprising. Just

713
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Speaker 1: one more thing from that story, Janus, I want to

714
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Speaker 1: read just a short paragraph that you wrote talking about

715
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Speaker 1: James Comber and the Congressional House Oversight Committee hearings and

716
00:43:16,719 --> 00:43:20,560
Speaker 1: James Comer you're talking about Comber highlighted a specific concern.

717
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Speaker 1: The report discloses one grantee received nearly seven hundred thousand

718
00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:32,560
Speaker 1: dollars for a single month of work, yet couldn't provide

719
00:43:32,680 --> 00:43:38,200
Speaker 1: auditors with documentation proving that amount was justified. I mean,

720
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Speaker 1: it's just it's stunning in its brazenness.

721
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Speaker 4: Did you note the part where it actually came up

722
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Speaker 4: during a congressional hearing the head of the Oversite Committee,

723
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Speaker 4: James Comber, pointed out, quote, here's the kicker. I remember

724
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Speaker 4: he said that the employee who approved that particular grant

725
00:43:57,440 --> 00:44:02,200
Speaker 4: left the government agency and took job later on with

726
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Speaker 4: the place for which he said, you can have the money.

727
00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:09,600
Speaker 3: Wow, you know, the blind leading the blind.

728
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Speaker 1: You know, seven hundred thousand dollars kind of adds up,

729
00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:15,480
Speaker 1: and I'd like to have a job where I can

730
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Speaker 1: earn that for a single month of work.

731
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Speaker 3: It just gets worse up.

732
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Speaker 4: Yeah, really, let's both go there, Mike what he say?

733
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Speaker 1: I'm ready, man, I'm ready. Okay, the most comprehensive. You're

734
00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:30,640
Speaker 1: all your stories are comprehensive, But boy, the one four

735
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Speaker 1: takeaways from the fraud congressional hearing that we were just

736
00:44:33,719 --> 00:44:37,560
Speaker 1: talking about, you break it down into four separate things, Janie.

737
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Speaker 1: First one being national discussion.

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Speaker 3: This is a key point. Can you kind of tell

739
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Speaker 3: us what you're thinking on that?

740
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Speaker 11: Well?

741
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Speaker 4: I think that you know, a representative Hudson. I don't

742
00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:52,920
Speaker 4: have that story in front of me, but he really

743
00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:55,680
Speaker 4: put it very well. He described and you know, if

744
00:44:55,719 --> 00:44:57,120
Speaker 4: maybe you haven't it in front of you, Mikey, you

745
00:44:57,160 --> 00:44:59,400
Speaker 4: can describe what is his exact words for because I

746
00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:01,080
Speaker 4: don't want to misquote him.

747
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Speaker 3: You're talking about Comber.

748
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Speaker 4: Representative Hudson. He was from He's from Minnesota, and he

749
00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:10,759
Speaker 4: was one of the three major witnesses who testified. There

750
00:45:10,840 --> 00:45:13,200
Speaker 4: was a fourth witness, but he didn't say a whole lot.

751
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Speaker 4: And Representative Hudson is on the fraud Prevention Committee in Minnesota,

752
00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:21,080
Speaker 4: and I just I feel like.

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Speaker 16: That he put it well. If you don't have it

754
00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:24,320
Speaker 16: in front of you, we can you know.

755
00:45:24,560 --> 00:45:27,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, I would rather have him say it to me.

756
00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:28,920
Speaker 3: I'm looking forward to here.

757
00:45:29,000 --> 00:45:33,520
Speaker 1: Janis a lot with Comer and then the Republican lawmakers,

758
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Speaker 1: Kristin Robbins, Walter Hudson, Marion Rerick.

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Speaker 4: Is that what you're talking about the very first subhead

760
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Speaker 4: and that is okay?

761
00:45:42,080 --> 00:45:44,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, he's he.

762
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Speaker 4: Was amazing and I just want to, you know, I

763
00:45:46,680 --> 00:45:49,600
Speaker 4: don't want to, you know, put any words in his mouth.

764
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Speaker 1: Well, it says they testified at the hearing along with

765
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Speaker 1: the fourth witness Brendan Belou, a former federal prosecutor and

766
00:45:58,440 --> 00:46:03,759
Speaker 1: native Minnesota. So, I mean, obviously these people are legislative

767
00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:06,399
Speaker 1: people and they're keeping an eye on it. I guess

768
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Speaker 1: if you broke it down between good guys and bad guys,

769
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Speaker 1: these people are the good guys.

770
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Speaker 3: Wouldn't you say, well, I don't want.

771
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Speaker 4: To, you know, opine on that. You know, but I

772
00:46:17,040 --> 00:46:21,439
Speaker 4: will tell you that this hearing ended up being kind

773
00:46:21,440 --> 00:46:25,480
Speaker 4: of devolved into some shouting matches where some of the

774
00:46:25,560 --> 00:46:28,600
Speaker 4: people on the other side of the political aisle were

775
00:46:28,719 --> 00:46:32,359
Speaker 4: raising questions about things that were not relevant at all

776
00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:36,640
Speaker 4: to Minnesota fraud. For example, they were bringing up January sixth,

777
00:46:37,560 --> 00:46:39,600
Speaker 4: and I'm kind of like, what does that have to

778
00:46:39,680 --> 00:46:42,040
Speaker 4: do with Minnesota product? That was what the witnesses were

779
00:46:42,120 --> 00:46:44,759
Speaker 4: pushing back. And then then that ends up where the

780
00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:47,759
Speaker 4: person in Congress is yelling at the witnesses thing.

781
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Speaker 16: It's my time, I get my time back, and just.

782
00:46:50,080 --> 00:46:51,840
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, back and forth.

783
00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:54,840
Speaker 4: And so anyway, the key point that you know, I

784
00:46:54,960 --> 00:46:58,600
Speaker 4: found the quote he said, the national conversation has been

785
00:46:58,719 --> 00:47:02,200
Speaker 4: fraught with distractions about personalities and parties and politics. They're

786
00:47:02,200 --> 00:47:05,880
Speaker 4: trying to say this is all just Republicans coming after Democrats.

787
00:47:06,200 --> 00:47:12,320
Speaker 4: He said that basically that they a lack of oversight

788
00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:15,719
Speaker 4: for Minnesota's generous benefit programs. Maybe easy for people to

789
00:47:15,840 --> 00:47:17,640
Speaker 4: quote certain benefits into business.

790
00:47:17,760 --> 00:47:19,560
Speaker 16: That's the phrase I was hoping you would say.

791
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Speaker 4: Because people need to know that is systemic. They want

792
00:47:23,040 --> 00:47:26,840
Speaker 4: to turn benefits into business, according to Representative Hudson, and

793
00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:31,880
Speaker 4: that the state developed a culture of profiting from government

794
00:47:32,080 --> 00:47:36,719
Speaker 4: programs and perpetuity not as a safety net, but as

795
00:47:36,760 --> 00:47:38,920
Speaker 4: an industry. He said it, and I could not put

796
00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:39,560
Speaker 4: that any better.

797
00:47:39,640 --> 00:47:40,160
Speaker 16: I am sorry.

798
00:47:40,239 --> 00:47:44,239
Speaker 4: I wanted to give words because he is, you know,

799
00:47:44,440 --> 00:47:47,320
Speaker 4: there in the state. I am not, And I just

800
00:47:47,360 --> 00:47:49,400
Speaker 4: could not have put it any better than that. He

801
00:47:49,600 --> 00:47:51,640
Speaker 4: sees it from the inside and had seen.

802
00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:52,120
Speaker 2: It for years.

803
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Speaker 16: I'm kind of trying to come lately on the scene.

804
00:47:55,480 --> 00:47:59,920
Speaker 4: So and there's even a cottage industry where consultants earn

805
00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:02,440
Speaker 4: living by helping people get benefits.

806
00:48:03,280 --> 00:48:05,000
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I saw that in your story.

807
00:48:05,440 --> 00:48:05,640
Speaker 16: Yeah.

808
00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:07,560
Speaker 3: I want to make sure I get this in here.

809
00:48:08,320 --> 00:48:11,520
Speaker 1: One of the things to me is just shocking your

810
00:48:11,600 --> 00:48:14,920
Speaker 1: section about whistleblowers punished and intimidated.

811
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Speaker 3: What do you know about that? Janis?

812
00:48:19,120 --> 00:48:21,719
Speaker 4: Oh, well, the thing that stood out to me most

813
00:48:21,760 --> 00:48:24,480
Speaker 4: that I had not heard yet. I heard about whistleblowers

814
00:48:24,520 --> 00:48:28,560
Speaker 4: being punished and threatened in things, and reassigned different jobs,

815
00:48:28,600 --> 00:48:32,560
Speaker 4: and all of that, you know, really bad enough. But

816
00:48:32,840 --> 00:48:36,000
Speaker 4: then there were there's an email that was entered into

817
00:48:36,080 --> 00:48:39,200
Speaker 4: the congressional record that shows that a leader of the

818
00:48:39,280 --> 00:48:44,560
Speaker 4: Welfare Department sent out to several other people at least

819
00:48:44,719 --> 00:48:49,320
Speaker 4: a veiled threat, if not actual statement. I don't have

820
00:48:49,440 --> 00:48:52,520
Speaker 4: the email, I've asked for it that says we want

821
00:48:52,560 --> 00:48:55,920
Speaker 4: to use military intelligence to have the exact.

822
00:48:56,200 --> 00:49:01,279
Speaker 1: Locations I saw that, unbelieva. Let me just read a

823
00:49:01,360 --> 00:49:06,440
Speaker 1: couple sentences here from your story. You are quoting Rareck here.

824
00:49:07,040 --> 00:49:11,280
Speaker 1: Their collective message has been completely consistent. Instead of focusing

825
00:49:11,360 --> 00:49:17,520
Speaker 1: on fraudsters, DHS leadership instead focuses its focus is its

826
00:49:17,640 --> 00:49:23,720
Speaker 1: surveillance on employees. After one whistleblower raised concerns, she faced

827
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Speaker 1: a lengthy investigation, was escorted out of the building and

828
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Speaker 1: transferred involuntarily to another state agency. Just a couple more

829
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Speaker 1: sentences here, Jess. Other employees have reported being threatened with

830
00:49:37,560 --> 00:49:41,279
Speaker 1: being fired, being blacklisted from all state agencies.

831
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Speaker 3: And this is what you just said.

832
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Speaker 1: This floored me, and receiving a veiled threat of the

833
00:49:47,800 --> 00:49:52,360
Speaker 1: use of military intelligence against them. Now that's got to

834
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Speaker 1: be a federal crime in and of itself, I would think.

835
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Speaker 4: Well, I did say a couple of congressmen at the

836
00:49:59,040 --> 00:50:02,280
Speaker 4: hearing did raise the possibility that such actions have proven

837
00:50:02,680 --> 00:50:06,920
Speaker 4: could constitute criminal conduct. So I don't even know, like

838
00:50:07,400 --> 00:50:12,080
Speaker 4: if if there are enough prosecutors to look.

839
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Speaker 3: Into all of this.

840
00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:18,400
Speaker 4: The problems are so deep and wide that one of

841
00:50:18,480 --> 00:50:20,360
Speaker 4: the prosecutors is the guy who has been kind of

842
00:50:20,400 --> 00:50:22,840
Speaker 4: like the lead prosecutor on the Minnesota front. And this

843
00:50:23,040 --> 00:50:25,400
Speaker 4: is the point I want to make sure people realize

844
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Speaker 4: this didn't happen overnight. There have been alarms raised about this,

845
00:50:29,640 --> 00:50:32,719
Speaker 4: and that's another key point that's been missed. Alarms have

846
00:50:32,800 --> 00:50:37,479
Speaker 4: been raised about this for a decade or more, right, Yeah,

847
00:50:38,560 --> 00:50:43,759
Speaker 4: and they get ignored and so literally they This prosecutor

848
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Speaker 4: has been in charge of most of these cases, especially

849
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Speaker 4: this main one called Feeding Our Future, which, to remind

850
00:50:49,800 --> 00:50:53,399
Speaker 4: the listeners, was the case where people were claiming during

851
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Speaker 4: the pandemic era, to provide meals to kids that they

852
00:50:57,160 --> 00:50:59,600
Speaker 4: ordinarily would have gotten in schools that schools were closed

853
00:50:59,600 --> 00:51:03,360
Speaker 4: because of the COVID pandemic, and they weren't providing the

854
00:51:03,440 --> 00:51:05,319
Speaker 4: meals that they were just pocketing the money and doing

855
00:51:05,360 --> 00:51:06,080
Speaker 4: other things with it.

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00:51:06,160 --> 00:51:07,719
Speaker 16: Basically up to the tune.

857
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Speaker 4: Of now three hundred and ten million is the latest.

858
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Speaker 16: Prosecutions are still.

859
00:51:12,200 --> 00:51:17,879
Speaker 4: Continuing, and they began in twenty twenty two, after investigations started.

860
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Speaker 16: The year prior. So that is this prosecutor that was

861
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Speaker 16: in charge of.

862
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Speaker 4: All of that said at one point he could have

863
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Speaker 4: one thousand.

864
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Speaker 16: Prosecutors and still stay busy.

865
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Speaker 1: I'm reading it now and I read it last night.

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Speaker 1: Let me ask It's impossible to answer. I guess I

867
00:51:32,920 --> 00:51:35,520
Speaker 1: wonder if that was tongue in cheek or he actually

868
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Speaker 1: believed that. I mean, with what's going on there and

869
00:51:39,080 --> 00:51:42,200
Speaker 1: the lack of oversight, maybe they would need a thousand prosecutors.

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Speaker 1: It's just it's incredible. Hey, we only have a couple minutes.

871
00:51:45,880 --> 00:51:47,719
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, a couple of minutes. I thought I want

872
00:51:48,239 --> 00:51:51,680
Speaker 1: I wanted to ask you a couple things. First, what's

873
00:51:51,800 --> 00:51:56,320
Speaker 1: next in Minnesota? Secondly, what are you hearing about Columbus?

874
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Speaker 1: Because I kind of thought last week there'd be a

875
00:51:59,719 --> 00:52:02,680
Speaker 1: big week up there of discovery. There was a little

876
00:52:02,680 --> 00:52:04,560
Speaker 1: bit of a blit, but then I didn't hear anything,

877
00:52:04,719 --> 00:52:07,200
Speaker 1: so you have two and a half minutes.

878
00:52:07,280 --> 00:52:12,440
Speaker 4: Janis okay. So what's next for Minnesota is that the

879
00:52:12,560 --> 00:52:15,240
Speaker 4: Fraud Committee is probably going to have a hearing sometime

880
00:52:15,360 --> 00:52:17,320
Speaker 4: this month. Now, who knows, they may not have it.

881
00:52:17,760 --> 00:52:20,480
Speaker 4: It's this unrest and the clashes between the ICE and

882
00:52:20,520 --> 00:52:24,000
Speaker 4: the protesters continue, so we'll see if they are going

883
00:52:24,080 --> 00:52:26,880
Speaker 4: to have a hearing. I will be covering that for certain.

884
00:52:28,000 --> 00:52:30,560
Speaker 4: I know there is an additional congressional hearing that is

885
00:52:30,640 --> 00:52:34,520
Speaker 4: planned coming up in the month of February where Governor

886
00:52:34,640 --> 00:52:40,279
Speaker 4: Wall of Minnesota, if people are aware, may remember that

887
00:52:40,440 --> 00:52:43,600
Speaker 4: recently he announced he is not continuing his bid for

888
00:52:43,719 --> 00:52:47,560
Speaker 4: reelection for a third term Darnick. He and the Attorney

889
00:52:47,680 --> 00:52:51,600
Speaker 4: General Keith Ellison from Minnesota have been a subpoena or there.

890
00:52:51,400 --> 00:52:51,920
Speaker 16: Have been seveena.

891
00:52:51,960 --> 00:52:53,839
Speaker 4: They take it back, they may be subpoena, but they've

892
00:52:53,880 --> 00:52:57,120
Speaker 4: been asked to come February tenth to a hearing in

893
00:52:57,280 --> 00:52:59,840
Speaker 4: Congress before that oversight committee.

894
00:53:00,280 --> 00:53:04,200
Speaker 16: So that's what's what's next on deck for Minnesota.

895
00:53:03,960 --> 00:53:07,840
Speaker 4: Other than the crazy unrest. Now in Columbus, I actually

896
00:53:07,880 --> 00:53:11,120
Speaker 4: did take a trip up there with a photographer on Tuesday.

897
00:53:11,600 --> 00:53:13,480
Speaker 4: I have not finished my report on that, and I

898
00:53:13,520 --> 00:53:15,360
Speaker 4: don't want to steal too much of my own thunder,

899
00:53:15,640 --> 00:53:18,880
Speaker 4: but I will say I went into the Somali community

900
00:53:19,640 --> 00:53:21,600
Speaker 4: and I was able to get a few interviews. Many

901
00:53:21,680 --> 00:53:24,560
Speaker 4: Somalis were afraid to talk to me or would not

902
00:53:24,880 --> 00:53:28,279
Speaker 4: or could not speak English very well. But the ones

903
00:53:28,360 --> 00:53:31,120
Speaker 4: that I did speak to, I really got some pretty

904
00:53:31,200 --> 00:53:34,480
Speaker 4: interesting stuff. And there's been some videos that have surface

905
00:53:34,640 --> 00:53:37,440
Speaker 4: where people are, you know, doing kind of like the

906
00:53:37,520 --> 00:53:41,000
Speaker 4: Nick Shurly thing and alleging this business. You know, But I,

907
00:53:41,760 --> 00:53:44,279
Speaker 4: in my opinion to like need him to take one

908
00:53:44,480 --> 00:53:47,839
Speaker 4: visit and a place. One place I went, for example.

909
00:53:47,520 --> 00:53:49,560
Speaker 16: I could hear children inside, so I know there were

910
00:53:49,680 --> 00:53:50,600
Speaker 16: children in there.

911
00:53:51,000 --> 00:53:53,440
Speaker 4: Okay, but who knows, maybe there are five children in

912
00:53:53,480 --> 00:53:56,279
Speaker 4: there and they're building for twenty you know. I don't

913
00:53:56,320 --> 00:53:58,640
Speaker 4: have the authority to go barging into a place, and

914
00:53:59,400 --> 00:54:01,880
Speaker 4: it did to me. Yeah, so that's kind of I

915
00:54:02,000 --> 00:54:03,680
Speaker 4: will have a story coming up next.

916
00:54:03,520 --> 00:54:04,080
Speaker 16: Week on that.

917
00:54:04,440 --> 00:54:08,800
Speaker 1: Okay, Well, we will look forward. And again, this is invaluable, Janis.

918
00:54:09,000 --> 00:54:12,120
Speaker 1: I mean, you're giving out information that I don't think

919
00:54:12,120 --> 00:54:15,320
Speaker 1: a lot of reporters in this country know or have

920
00:54:15,480 --> 00:54:18,279
Speaker 1: bothered to do the work on so and I can't

921
00:54:18,280 --> 00:54:21,080
Speaker 1: tell you how many times I get Hey, you know,

922
00:54:21,200 --> 00:54:24,040
Speaker 1: I listened to you and Janis Heisel's really got that

923
00:54:24,239 --> 00:54:24,799
Speaker 1: story down.

924
00:54:24,880 --> 00:54:25,120
Speaker 2: Pat.

925
00:54:25,320 --> 00:54:27,320
Speaker 3: I guess that's all a long way of saying, I

926
00:54:27,440 --> 00:54:28,919
Speaker 3: really appreciate what you're doing.

927
00:54:30,400 --> 00:54:32,120
Speaker 4: Well, you know, I appreciate being on the air to

928
00:54:32,160 --> 00:54:34,160
Speaker 4: talk about it because I do think that people in

929
00:54:34,239 --> 00:54:37,480
Speaker 4: Cincinnati really need to be informed in back people across

930
00:54:37,520 --> 00:54:41,360
Speaker 4: the country. So thank you again for the opportunity, and

931
00:54:42,560 --> 00:54:44,480
Speaker 4: We're all going to definitely stay tuned and I'll keep

932
00:54:44,520 --> 00:54:45,040
Speaker 4: working as.

933
00:54:44,920 --> 00:54:45,480
Speaker 16: Hard as a can.

934
00:54:45,840 --> 00:54:50,640
Speaker 1: That sounds good, Jans, thank you. All right, boy, I'll

935
00:54:50,680 --> 00:54:54,360
Speaker 1: tell you what. That's some good information. It just it's frightening,

936
00:54:54,520 --> 00:54:57,719
Speaker 1: it really is. And I think she would have said

937
00:54:57,719 --> 00:54:59,919
Speaker 1: if I would have asked her, they've only scratched the serp.

938
00:55:00,080 --> 00:55:03,239
Speaker 1: It's up there, but pretty bad. Hey, listen, we got

939
00:55:03,360 --> 00:55:05,440
Speaker 1: to take a break. I'm already late for the news.

940
00:55:05,719 --> 00:55:08,600
Speaker 1: When we get back. Your calls and those are the

941
00:55:08,760 --> 00:55:12,200
Speaker 1: all hold I'm going to get them first. Mike Allen Saturday.

942
00:55:11,880 --> 00:55:14,280
Speaker 4: Midday sixteen rules you would recruit Look.

943
00:55:14,160 --> 00:55:17,760
Speaker 1: Gallen Saturday Midday as promising, I'm gonna get to the phones.

944
00:55:17,800 --> 00:55:21,040
Speaker 3: This won't take long at all. I did do some research,

945
00:55:21,200 --> 00:55:23,759
Speaker 3: some down and dirty research over the break about the

946
00:55:23,920 --> 00:55:28,560
Speaker 3: question of whether a taxpayer can sue the City of

947
00:55:28,640 --> 00:55:34,240
Speaker 3: Cincinnati to prevent them giving any money to the Hinton family.

948
00:55:34,520 --> 00:55:36,680
Speaker 1: We've been talking about all morning, and I tell you

949
00:55:36,760 --> 00:55:39,040
Speaker 1: the first thing that pops up is AI, and I

950
00:55:39,200 --> 00:55:42,520
Speaker 1: have found AI to be accurate and fair. Okay, here's

951
00:55:42,560 --> 00:55:48,399
Speaker 1: the short answer. Yes, an Olio taxpayer can potentially sue

952
00:55:48,440 --> 00:55:53,040
Speaker 1: a municipality over a settlement, but it's complex. Usually requires

953
00:55:53,120 --> 00:55:56,200
Speaker 1: showing misuse of funds well that would be right on

954
00:55:56,280 --> 00:56:00,520
Speaker 1: the money, or illegal activity, and often depends on the law.

955
00:56:00,600 --> 00:56:05,239
Speaker 1: Exceptions to this is this would be the problem. Two

956
00:56:05,480 --> 00:56:10,000
Speaker 1: exceptions to sovereign immunity. Uh, that's you'd have to get

957
00:56:10,080 --> 00:56:10,560
Speaker 1: around that.

958
00:56:11,400 --> 00:56:11,520
Speaker 2: Uh.

959
00:56:12,040 --> 00:56:15,759
Speaker 1: When a taxpayer can sue a common basis is if

960
00:56:15,840 --> 00:56:20,640
Speaker 1: the municipality is misusing taxpayer money, failing duties, engaging in

961
00:56:20,719 --> 00:56:25,520
Speaker 1: illegal acts under the revised code. And then just one

962
00:56:25,600 --> 00:56:30,719
Speaker 1: more thing on the sovereign immunity thing. Municipalities have immunity,

963
00:56:31,000 --> 00:56:35,880
Speaker 1: meaning they can't be sued easily, requiring the taxpayer to

964
00:56:36,160 --> 00:56:40,080
Speaker 1: fit it into a specific legal exception. And there there

965
00:56:40,120 --> 00:56:43,040
Speaker 1: are quite a few exceptions to sovereign I you need,

966
00:56:43,200 --> 00:56:45,719
Speaker 1: but you'd have to find one. So I think the

967
00:56:45,880 --> 00:56:50,440
Speaker 1: answer is, yes, you can, but it won't be easy.

968
00:56:50,840 --> 00:56:53,160
Speaker 1: So anyway, I wanted to make sure that I had

969
00:56:53,239 --> 00:56:56,040
Speaker 1: that down. Hey, let's talk to Roger in Milwaukee.

970
00:56:57,719 --> 00:56:58,960
Speaker 3: Hello, Roger, thank you.

971
00:56:59,560 --> 00:57:04,360
Speaker 17: Hey, I'm in Columbus. First of all, on the insurance issue,

972
00:57:05,239 --> 00:57:09,440
Speaker 17: Usually the insurance policies, I understand, have the ability to

973
00:57:09,560 --> 00:57:12,879
Speaker 17: override what the city wants to do, so the city

974
00:57:13,000 --> 00:57:17,160
Speaker 17: might not want to settle, but oftentimes the final decision

975
00:57:17,240 --> 00:57:18,480
Speaker 17: is with the insurance company.

976
00:57:18,600 --> 00:57:20,160
Speaker 2: So give some thought to that.

977
00:57:20,320 --> 00:57:24,920
Speaker 3: That's that's interesting, Roger. I didn't know that. I mean,

978
00:57:25,000 --> 00:57:28,800
Speaker 3: it's the city's money. But you sound like you know

979
00:57:28,880 --> 00:57:31,760
Speaker 3: what you're talking about. Are these things, these kind of

980
00:57:32,320 --> 00:57:36,480
Speaker 3: claims against the city, Usually they get the money from

981
00:57:36,600 --> 00:57:39,000
Speaker 3: the insurance and not from the general fund.

982
00:57:40,000 --> 00:57:42,800
Speaker 17: Well, Cincinnati could be self insured, you know, they might

983
00:57:43,000 --> 00:57:47,240
Speaker 17: not even have an insurance company, and if it's viewed

984
00:57:47,280 --> 00:57:51,760
Speaker 17: as an intentional tort, their policy may not cover. But

985
00:57:52,680 --> 00:57:55,160
Speaker 17: I by no means I'm an expert, but general information.

986
00:57:55,440 --> 00:57:57,880
Speaker 17: But you know, I wanted to get back to if

987
00:57:57,960 --> 00:58:00,480
Speaker 17: I could just in the situation with the audit mobile

988
00:58:00,640 --> 00:58:03,800
Speaker 17: and all one has to do is take a look

989
00:58:03,840 --> 00:58:08,000
Speaker 17: at the world. How many people have used vehicles as weapons? Okay,

990
00:58:09,040 --> 00:58:14,640
Speaker 17: it's an obvious issue of throughout Germany, you're wherever you

991
00:58:14,720 --> 00:58:19,080
Speaker 17: want to look. Vehicles have always been used as weapons.

992
00:58:19,400 --> 00:58:24,160
Speaker 1: It's at all and police officers have died in them,

993
00:58:25,560 --> 00:58:26,640
Speaker 1: cars driven into it.

994
00:58:27,320 --> 00:58:29,240
Speaker 3: I'm sorry all the time.

995
00:58:30,240 --> 00:58:33,680
Speaker 17: So split second decision making me. She put herself in

996
00:58:33,760 --> 00:58:37,160
Speaker 17: this situation and unfortunately she.

997
00:58:37,240 --> 00:58:38,320
Speaker 2: Paid a high price for it.

998
00:58:38,440 --> 00:58:40,400
Speaker 17: And then my final comment, and wouldn't mind knowing a

999
00:58:40,440 --> 00:58:41,040
Speaker 17: little bit of your.

1000
00:58:40,960 --> 00:58:41,480
Speaker 2: Thoughts on this.

1001
00:58:42,440 --> 00:58:45,120
Speaker 17: Let's assume Milwaukee is a city of what maybe two

1002
00:58:45,200 --> 00:58:45,800
Speaker 17: million people?

1003
00:58:45,840 --> 00:58:48,840
Speaker 2: Would you say, let's say two million, million and a half,

1004
00:58:49,760 --> 00:58:54,120
Speaker 2: So you have about five hundred people showing up to

1005
00:58:54,320 --> 00:58:56,200
Speaker 2: be worked up and so forth, and then.

1006
00:58:56,080 --> 00:59:00,880
Speaker 17: The media calls it chaos. Believe me, five hundred people,

1007
00:59:01,000 --> 00:59:05,480
Speaker 17: half who are on payroll is not chaos. I'm not

1008
00:59:05,760 --> 00:59:09,400
Speaker 17: diminishing the numbers. But what five hundred, seven hundred and

1009
00:59:09,440 --> 00:59:11,640
Speaker 17: fifty were out last night in Milwaukee out of a

1010
00:59:11,720 --> 00:59:13,320
Speaker 17: city of maybe two million?

1011
00:59:13,560 --> 00:59:16,720
Speaker 6: Yeah, I know, I know, and I think it's safe

1012
00:59:16,800 --> 00:59:17,400
Speaker 6: to say that.

1013
00:59:17,560 --> 00:59:22,760
Speaker 17: It's orchestrated and the vast majority of the people are

1014
00:59:22,800 --> 00:59:25,800
Speaker 17: too busy, trying to make a living, going to work,

1015
00:59:25,880 --> 00:59:29,360
Speaker 17: raising kids. All that to be concerned about seven hundred

1016
00:59:29,360 --> 00:59:32,440
Speaker 17: and fifty people, half of whom are probably on some

1017
00:59:32,640 --> 00:59:34,880
Speaker 17: form of a payroll and picked up the same sign

1018
00:59:34,960 --> 00:59:36,280
Speaker 17: they got in Portland.

1019
00:59:36,400 --> 00:59:39,720
Speaker 2: Is the same sign they have in Milwaukee? Yep? Any

1020
00:59:39,800 --> 00:59:40,760
Speaker 2: sense for my thinking?

1021
00:59:41,120 --> 00:59:43,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I'll tell you what I think you're I

1022
00:59:43,960 --> 00:59:46,080
Speaker 3: gotta let you go, but I'll answer your question. Thank

1023
00:59:46,120 --> 00:59:47,680
Speaker 3: you for that call. That was a good call.

1024
00:59:48,600 --> 00:59:48,800
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1025
00:59:48,880 --> 00:59:51,280
Speaker 1: I mean, if you look at it, you do see

1026
00:59:52,000 --> 00:59:54,160
Speaker 1: a lot of them with the same kind of signs,

1027
00:59:54,200 --> 00:59:57,200
Speaker 1: the same thing. So they're on somebody's payroll. My guess

1028
00:59:57,240 --> 01:00:01,120
Speaker 1: it would be Soros or one of his. But you know,

1029
01:00:01,520 --> 01:00:04,080
Speaker 1: the thing of it is the media. It's an interesting

1030
01:00:04,200 --> 01:00:07,600
Speaker 1: thing to cover, it's an interesting thing to get film on.

1031
01:00:07,920 --> 01:00:11,240
Speaker 1: So that's why they flock to it. But he's right,

1032
01:00:11,520 --> 01:00:14,920
Speaker 1: people need to keep it in perspective. I mean, these

1033
01:00:14,960 --> 01:00:18,600
Speaker 1: are the college professors and the students that the college

1034
01:00:18,680 --> 01:00:23,280
Speaker 1: professors get all wound up. They're not I don't believe

1035
01:00:23,480 --> 01:00:27,800
Speaker 1: ordinary citizens like we are. You know, that's a statement

1036
01:00:27,840 --> 01:00:30,800
Speaker 1: that's pretty general. But uh, you know, they don't have

1037
01:00:30,960 --> 01:00:34,280
Speaker 1: real jobs that they have to go to So that's

1038
01:00:34,400 --> 01:00:37,080
Speaker 1: just me. Uh, I am going to talk to Terry

1039
01:00:37,160 --> 01:00:40,440
Speaker 1: who disagrees with me, which is which is fine. Hey Terry,

1040
01:00:40,480 --> 01:00:41,040
Speaker 1: how you doing?

1041
01:00:42,400 --> 01:00:44,320
Speaker 14: Hey? My, come on, I listen to you every week.

1042
01:00:44,760 --> 01:00:45,040
Speaker 2: Thank you.

1043
01:00:45,640 --> 01:00:47,320
Speaker 14: I know you're not that bad a person because I

1044
01:00:47,400 --> 01:00:51,320
Speaker 14: see you on my my cousin's kids fundraising things all

1045
01:00:51,360 --> 01:00:52,200
Speaker 14: the time for their church.

1046
01:00:52,280 --> 01:00:58,200
Speaker 3: So okay, I think that's my alma mater.

1047
01:00:59,440 --> 01:01:01,320
Speaker 18: All right, well, I always see you whenever they got

1048
01:01:01,400 --> 01:01:05,560
Speaker 18: a fund raiser on there. With that said, a few thanks,

1049
01:01:05,600 --> 01:01:10,360
Speaker 18: I'll run to the quick pamp on tim. That came

1050
01:01:10,440 --> 01:01:15,280
Speaker 18: about because the small rural schools up there, sometimes girls

1051
01:01:15,320 --> 01:01:18,280
Speaker 18: had to use the boys locker rooms. I've got four

1052
01:01:18,400 --> 01:01:22,000
Speaker 18: daughters that play sports. I live in a rural neighborhood. Like,

1053
01:01:22,120 --> 01:01:24,160
Speaker 18: if that gets you guys that worked up, you don't

1054
01:01:24,200 --> 01:01:27,240
Speaker 18: care about girls sports that much. I know the nickname

1055
01:01:27,280 --> 01:01:30,479
Speaker 18: is funny, but well that's just that's just the truth

1056
01:01:30,560 --> 01:01:30,720
Speaker 18: of it.

1057
01:01:30,760 --> 01:01:33,160
Speaker 1: There, here's the thing that and that's the first I've

1058
01:01:33,200 --> 01:01:37,840
Speaker 1: ever heard of that, and I believe, well again, it's

1059
01:01:38,040 --> 01:01:41,120
Speaker 1: not really based on anything that I think the reason

1060
01:01:41,200 --> 01:01:44,480
Speaker 1: he did it was to play kate those who think

1061
01:01:44,560 --> 01:01:47,040
Speaker 1: that men should be in women's sports.

1062
01:01:47,120 --> 01:01:48,840
Speaker 3: But you know what, just for the heck of it.

1063
01:01:49,400 --> 01:01:52,120
Speaker 3: I'll drill down on that later. But it's an interesting question.

1064
01:01:54,160 --> 01:01:59,080
Speaker 3: Ah man, he took off. I wonder why he did that.

1065
01:01:59,280 --> 01:02:04,640
Speaker 1: I mean we were they having a decent discussion. Oh man, Well, anyway,

1066
01:02:04,880 --> 01:02:05,640
Speaker 1: I tried.

1067
01:02:06,400 --> 01:02:09,760
Speaker 3: Let's see, let's talk to Tim. Hey, how you doing, Tim?

1068
01:02:09,840 --> 01:02:10,360
Speaker 3: Good morning?

1069
01:02:12,680 --> 01:02:12,919
Speaker 1: Tim?

1070
01:02:13,080 --> 01:02:13,600
Speaker 5: Are you there?

1071
01:02:13,720 --> 01:02:14,000
Speaker 18: Buddy?

1072
01:02:14,760 --> 01:02:15,000
Speaker 3: Hello?

1073
01:02:15,200 --> 01:02:15,439
Speaker 9: Tim?

1074
01:02:17,680 --> 01:02:17,960
Speaker 19: Tim?

1075
01:02:19,440 --> 01:02:21,920
Speaker 1: All right, he's out here. Call back Tim if you can.

1076
01:02:22,680 --> 01:02:25,120
Speaker 1: Doug in northern Kentucky, Let's talk to him.

1077
01:02:25,160 --> 01:02:26,200
Speaker 3: Hey, Doug, how you doing.

1078
01:02:27,440 --> 01:02:27,919
Speaker 20: I'm doing?

1079
01:02:28,120 --> 01:02:28,800
Speaker 2: Just wonderful.

1080
01:02:31,120 --> 01:02:34,720
Speaker 21: Just an observation on my part. I was just at

1081
01:02:34,800 --> 01:02:39,560
Speaker 21: the post office in Florence, Kentucky, and there was probably

1082
01:02:40,040 --> 01:02:44,840
Speaker 21: thirty to forty African Americans, the elderly. There was an

1083
01:02:45,160 --> 01:02:51,640
Speaker 21: African guard applying for post or having a brain cramp.

1084
01:02:53,000 --> 01:02:55,880
Speaker 3: Post office sports, oh, passports okay, yeah.

1085
01:02:56,800 --> 01:02:59,440
Speaker 21: And that just seemed odd to me because I've never

1086
01:02:59,560 --> 01:03:02,440
Speaker 21: been to the post office, and I go there quite often.

1087
01:03:02,520 --> 01:03:05,600
Speaker 21: Were more than maybe one or two people were there

1088
01:03:06,080 --> 01:03:07,320
Speaker 21: trying to get passports.

1089
01:03:08,560 --> 01:03:12,840
Speaker 1: That's interesting. They usually I've gotten a passport. I had

1090
01:03:12,840 --> 01:03:14,800
Speaker 1: to a couple of times because of course I lost

1091
01:03:14,840 --> 01:03:18,160
Speaker 1: it the first time. You got to go jump through

1092
01:03:18,200 --> 01:03:20,040
Speaker 1: some hoops. But it's not that big of a deal.

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I mean, maybe it could be a sports team or something.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, But you're right, that is a bit unusual.

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Speaker 21: It's just that they had one line for general post

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Speaker 21: office duties, and then they had another line which was

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Speaker 21: out in the main lobby for passports, and they were

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Speaker 21: all interested in American and again summoned African garb interesting.

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Speaker 21: I just found that. And you just had that woman

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Speaker 21: on there, the investigative reporter. I don't know her name, sorry,

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Speaker 21: And I just thought that might be something shem want

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Speaker 21: looking too.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, and what post off office was it, Doug,

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Speaker 3: I don't remember if you say it was Florence, Florence.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, well I'll tell you what. If you hear

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Speaker 1: anything more, call us back. But that does seem somewhat unusual.

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Speaker 21: Yeah, and on your individual you had earlier that wouldn't

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Speaker 21: let you talk. Yeah, I just seemed very similar to

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Speaker 21: the conversation that the ice agent had with that woman

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Speaker 21: who got shot and that guy. It just seemed the

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Speaker 21: mind frame of them two people were very similar.

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Speaker 3: It is it is, Hey, I appreciate the call.

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Speaker 2: Thanks.

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Speaker 3: Okay, Doug.

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Speaker 1: Well, it's like I've said, I literally mean from the

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Speaker 1: first show that I ever did here the arrogance of liberals.

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Speaker 1: They're never wrong about anything. They will never consider the

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Speaker 1: other person's point of view. They're right, and damn the torpedoes.

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Speaker 1: They have a right to do anything that they want

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Speaker 1: to further their cause, and that is a big part

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Speaker 1: of the problem with these people.

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Speaker 3: Okay, let's see. Oh Terry's back. Hey, we lost you.

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Speaker 3: How you doing good?

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Speaker 9: Hey?

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Speaker 14: I don't know what happened there. Sorry, Okay, second thing,

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Speaker 14: I guess you can consider me an arrogant liberal. I

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Speaker 14: don't consider myself.

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Speaker 3: That, but you don't sound eric if you want to categorizing.

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Speaker 14: We all agree we.

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01:05:26,280 --> 01:05:28,000
Speaker 2: Don't like fraud, right, don't like what?

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Speaker 3: I'm sorry, do you say fraud roud? Okay, yes, sir,

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Speaker 3: we don't.

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Speaker 14: Okay. Maybe James Heiseel can do an in depth reporting,

1135
01:05:35,600 --> 01:05:40,000
Speaker 14: like a twenty five item reporting on the twenty five

1136
01:05:40,080 --> 01:05:42,480
Speaker 14: people that have been convicted of fraud that Trump is

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Speaker 14: pardoned this year.

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Speaker 3: Fair story. I mean, that's a fair story. I don't

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Speaker 3: know that it's twenty five.

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Speaker 14: Some of his it might be twenty three.

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Speaker 11: You might have me there.

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Speaker 14: Okay, some of the people prosecuted, we're prosecuted by his

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01:05:56,480 --> 01:05:58,280
Speaker 14: own people, and then he parted them.

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01:05:58,760 --> 01:06:00,880
Speaker 1: I know there's a big one. There's a big fish

1145
01:06:00,960 --> 01:06:03,800
Speaker 1: that he pardoned and caught a lot of crap for it.

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01:06:04,120 --> 01:06:05,000
Speaker 1: I'm gonna drill.

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01:06:04,880 --> 01:06:09,200
Speaker 14: Down on it and see, all right, last thing, I'll

1148
01:06:09,200 --> 01:06:12,440
Speaker 14: go through this past. But you're uniquely qualified because you're

1149
01:06:12,440 --> 01:06:16,720
Speaker 14: a prosecutor and a defender. Right, yes, sir, if you're

1150
01:06:16,760 --> 01:06:19,920
Speaker 14: a prosecutor, and just say Trump's the head of police.

1151
01:06:19,960 --> 01:06:23,000
Speaker 14: And he comes on and says, this guy was so

1152
01:06:23,200 --> 01:06:25,640
Speaker 14: brave he got ran over. He's lucky to be alive.

1153
01:06:26,880 --> 01:06:29,240
Speaker 14: Everybody saw the video. We know that's not what happened.

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01:06:30,240 --> 01:06:33,280
Speaker 14: Wendy Vance comes out and says that he has immunity.

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01:06:34,400 --> 01:06:36,640
Speaker 14: Christy Numb comes out and says that this woman was

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01:06:36,720 --> 01:06:41,480
Speaker 14: a domestic Harris. There's a third camera, Mike that came

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01:06:41,520 --> 01:06:44,480
Speaker 14: out yesterday. That's across the street. That's the ring camera. Yeah,

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01:06:44,960 --> 01:06:47,160
Speaker 14: this woman had been sitting there for less than two

1159
01:06:47,400 --> 01:06:51,160
Speaker 14: or three minutes. She's waving the ice guy long. One

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01:06:51,200 --> 01:06:54,080
Speaker 14: ice guy says, get out a car. One ice guy

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01:06:54,160 --> 01:06:57,800
Speaker 14: tells her to keep going. There's witnesses that attest to that,

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01:06:58,640 --> 01:07:00,760
Speaker 14: and the video shows that the guy who shot her,

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01:07:01,680 --> 01:07:04,160
Speaker 14: who's using a cell phone for whatever reason. I'm sure

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01:07:04,200 --> 01:07:08,640
Speaker 14: that's not police standard issue. That that guy never was

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01:07:08,680 --> 01:07:12,840
Speaker 14: touched by that car. It's clear evidence. It's it's out

1166
01:07:12,880 --> 01:07:13,800
Speaker 14: there if you want to see it.

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01:07:14,080 --> 01:07:16,600
Speaker 1: No, I do, and let me ask you. You would

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01:07:16,640 --> 01:07:19,880
Speaker 1: never let me ask you, Terry. Did you see the

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01:07:20,080 --> 01:07:23,280
Speaker 1: last one that came out. I think it was last night.

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01:07:23,880 --> 01:07:25,960
Speaker 1: I mean that's the one that sensed it for me

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Speaker 1: that I mean, that's what it looks like where.

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Speaker 14: He's holding in his camera. I don't call there's one

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01:07:32,840 --> 01:07:35,600
Speaker 14: directly behind it is from like a ring doorbell that

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Speaker 14: shows it.

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Speaker 18: He's not he doesn't get hit.

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Speaker 14: Mike, I'm not. I would never want to be a

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Speaker 14: cop because I'd never want to be in this situation. Sure,

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01:07:43,240 --> 01:07:46,280
Speaker 14: but I think it's just really reckless for our leaders

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01:07:46,360 --> 01:07:49,240
Speaker 14: to come out and say all this stuff instead of

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Speaker 14: just waiting, Like if you're the prosecutor, why don't you

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01:07:52,480 --> 01:07:54,200
Speaker 14: want them to say, like, hey, we're going to review

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01:07:54,240 --> 01:07:56,960
Speaker 14: all the evidence. You know what, you might be guy

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01:07:57,160 --> 01:07:57,640
Speaker 14: ran over.

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Speaker 1: You might be surprised here, Darren. For the most part,

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Speaker 1: I agree with you. I hated to see that. I mean,

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01:08:04,400 --> 01:08:07,400
Speaker 1: in those kind of things, they can be complex. I

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01:08:07,440 --> 01:08:09,640
Speaker 1: don't know that this one was. But you know, you

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01:08:09,760 --> 01:08:13,600
Speaker 1: got to gather the evidence, uh, and put the evidence

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Speaker 1: against the law and see if it fits or not.

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Speaker 3: I agree with you on that one, but I do

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Speaker 3: have to go.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate the call, and I appreciate I appreciate, I

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01:08:21,760 --> 01:08:22,960
Speaker 1: appreciate the stability.

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Speaker 14: What's that, miss Glenn Mason?

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01:08:27,720 --> 01:08:29,720
Speaker 3: I know I missed him a lot.

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Speaker 7: Man.

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you what you debate with that guy, you

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01:08:32,720 --> 01:08:35,599
Speaker 1: better know what you're talking about. I missing you can

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Speaker 1: be how about you be the new Glenn Terry.

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Speaker 3: How's that?

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01:08:41,240 --> 01:08:41,599
Speaker 2: Okay?

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01:08:43,200 --> 01:08:45,400
Speaker 3: Okay, you too? Thank you? Okay.

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Speaker 1: As lawyers say, there's exhibit A as to how to

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Speaker 1: conduct a debate, I mean, it wasn't really a debate,

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01:08:54,520 --> 01:08:57,040
Speaker 1: but back and forth, back and forth, back and forth,

1206
01:08:57,120 --> 01:08:59,920
Speaker 1: back and forth. That's how you do it. And I

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Speaker 1: appreciate that, and I appreciate his call. I think I

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Speaker 1: got time for one more. Mark's been holding on forever.

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Speaker 3: Hey Mark, Hey, good morning, Mike.

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Speaker 14: How are you.

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01:09:10,880 --> 01:09:11,840
Speaker 3: I'm good? I'm good.

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Speaker 2: What you got, hey?

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Speaker 6: A couple of things, you know, I just past week

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01:09:16,080 --> 01:09:20,160
Speaker 6: got to experience the legal system sitting on a jury

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01:09:20,600 --> 01:09:23,000
Speaker 6: and making having to make a decision, and a jury

1216
01:09:23,720 --> 01:09:26,479
Speaker 6: where the focus of the whole thing and one of

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01:09:26,520 --> 01:09:31,040
Speaker 6: the key issues was intent, intent of the crime. And

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Speaker 6: you know, when you sit there and think about it

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01:09:34,120 --> 01:09:36,639
Speaker 6: and you put the cop or the officer or whatever

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01:09:36,720 --> 01:09:40,160
Speaker 6: in that position intent, you know you have to make

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01:09:40,200 --> 01:09:43,080
Speaker 6: a split second decision of what the intent is. Is

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01:09:43,120 --> 01:09:45,320
Speaker 6: that person going to shoot you, is that person going

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01:09:45,400 --> 01:09:45,840
Speaker 6: to hit you?

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Speaker 2: What are you going to do?

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Speaker 6: And I think it's reckless for anybody to sit there

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Speaker 6: and say make a point they knew what's going through

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01:09:54,240 --> 01:09:56,559
Speaker 6: somebody's mind, because you don't.

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Speaker 11: And I think the bottom line.

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Speaker 6: Here with all these problems, all these issues that we

1230
01:10:02,600 --> 01:10:06,360
Speaker 6: see is that the one one issue here is that

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01:10:06,600 --> 01:10:08,960
Speaker 6: we have a we have an officer of the law,

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01:10:09,320 --> 01:10:13,800
Speaker 6: be an ice agent or whatever, who basically gave an

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01:10:13,960 --> 01:10:17,960
Speaker 6: order to stop, and people not obeying the cop. And

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Speaker 6: that's why, that's why we give police officers badges. When

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01:10:22,200 --> 01:10:24,280
Speaker 6: a cop asked you to do something, you have to

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01:10:24,400 --> 01:10:27,320
Speaker 6: do it. And if you don't comply, more times than not,

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01:10:27,600 --> 01:10:30,880
Speaker 6: bad things happen here. And I don't know why that's

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01:10:30,920 --> 01:10:33,160
Speaker 6: so hard for people to understand that if you have

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01:10:33,280 --> 01:10:36,160
Speaker 6: a problem, then that's why we have a legal system

1240
01:10:36,240 --> 01:10:38,280
Speaker 6: after the fact to go back and see if you

1241
01:10:38,400 --> 01:10:40,599
Speaker 6: were wrong. But if a cop tells you to stop,

1242
01:10:41,200 --> 01:10:43,880
Speaker 6: you stop. And I don't know how many of these

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01:10:43,960 --> 01:10:47,200
Speaker 6: instances we've seen, probably most of them, where an officer

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01:10:47,360 --> 01:10:49,640
Speaker 6: told somebody to do something and they didn't, then it

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01:10:49,840 --> 01:10:53,280
Speaker 6: escalated into a bigger issue. And that's what I experienced

1246
01:10:53,280 --> 01:10:57,679
Speaker 6: in the jury the past week. An officer was told

1247
01:10:57,800 --> 01:11:00,920
Speaker 6: told somebody to stop and do something, they didn't comply,

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01:11:01,240 --> 01:11:04,400
Speaker 6: It got, it got violent, and bad things happen.

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Speaker 1: Are you comfortable. Are you comfortable saying what the verdict is.

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01:11:09,160 --> 01:11:11,760
Speaker 1: I'm just curious. You don't have to if you don't

1251
01:11:11,800 --> 01:11:12,040
Speaker 1: want to.

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01:11:12,479 --> 01:11:12,599
Speaker 2: Uh.

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01:11:13,120 --> 01:11:16,920
Speaker 6: I would say that one, you know one uh one

1254
01:11:17,080 --> 01:11:19,240
Speaker 6: charge innocent, others charge guilty.

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Speaker 16: Okay, so okay, But again, intent was the big.

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01:11:23,360 --> 01:11:26,200
Speaker 6: Issue on both of those where one you really couldn't

1257
01:11:26,240 --> 01:11:29,479
Speaker 6: determine what the intent was or was And I mean,

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01:11:29,560 --> 01:11:32,080
Speaker 6: I guess you know the old adages was it the

1259
01:11:32,240 --> 01:11:35,280
Speaker 6: unreasonable doubt? And you know, in my opinion, it wasn't.

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Speaker 1: Well, you gotta you gotta do what you gotta do.

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01:11:38,840 --> 01:11:41,679
Speaker 1: I gotta get going here, though, I appreciate you hanging

1262
01:11:41,760 --> 01:11:44,560
Speaker 1: in there. I appreciate you serving on a jury. You

1263
01:11:44,600 --> 01:11:47,200
Speaker 1: wouldn't believe how many people want to get out of

1264
01:11:47,280 --> 01:11:47,680
Speaker 1: doing that.

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Speaker 3: So I appreciate you.

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01:11:51,120 --> 01:11:52,560
Speaker 2: Thanks, Michael, Okay, thank you.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what, I figured that that was going

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01:11:55,320 --> 01:11:59,679
Speaker 1: to come up sometime today. The way, there's a case

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Speaker 1: I think it was in the late eighties, Graham versus Connor.

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Speaker 1: That's the Supreme Court case that determines liability for police

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Speaker 1: officers in these type of things.

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Speaker 3: And the Supreme Court was smart enough to.

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01:12:12,920 --> 01:12:15,720
Speaker 1: Write into their decision you got to view it from

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01:12:15,760 --> 01:12:19,599
Speaker 1: the officer's perspective. What just like the College just said,

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01:12:19,640 --> 01:12:23,200
Speaker 1: what is in his mind at the time, and it

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01:12:23,479 --> 01:12:28,000
Speaker 1: is split second. So anyway, it's Graham versus Connor. It's

1277
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Speaker 1: really an unusual case and that it's readable even for attorneys.

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01:12:34,760 --> 01:12:37,320
Speaker 3: So anyway, Hey, you got to break for the news.

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01:12:37,360 --> 01:12:40,280
Speaker 3: When we get back, I'm going back to the phones.

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Speaker 1: Mike Allen, Saturday Midday, our three of the Saturday Midday

1281
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Speaker 1: program got Ken Cobra FOP President coming up at eleven thirty.

1282
01:12:51,400 --> 01:12:53,560
Speaker 1: We've got open lines here, but if you would just

1283
01:12:53,680 --> 01:12:56,760
Speaker 1: please indulge me, I promise it won't take that long.

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01:12:57,200 --> 01:13:00,400
Speaker 1: This thing has been sticking in my craw from earlier

1285
01:13:00,479 --> 01:13:05,120
Speaker 1: in the week. Do you remember the judge in Milwaukee

1286
01:13:05,479 --> 01:13:10,840
Speaker 1: that there was an illegal immigrant in her courtroom. I

1287
01:13:10,880 --> 01:13:14,240
Speaker 1: don't even remember what that person was there for, but

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01:13:14,360 --> 01:13:18,519
Speaker 1: at any rate, the judge shepherded to this guy through

1289
01:13:18,640 --> 01:13:23,880
Speaker 1: her back door, and I guess somebody helped him escape

1290
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Speaker 1: and they got him. They got him a little bit later.

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01:13:26,000 --> 01:13:31,080
Speaker 1: But the judge, her actions were just abominable. Well, anyway,

1292
01:13:31,920 --> 01:13:34,559
Speaker 1: she lost her job, she left the band. She's trying

1293
01:13:34,600 --> 01:13:38,000
Speaker 1: to make herself a hero, saying I'm doing this for

1294
01:13:38,600 --> 01:13:42,360
Speaker 1: her exact words, and this is from an up ed

1295
01:13:42,439 --> 01:13:44,479
Speaker 1: in the Wall Street Journal. I am pursuing this fight

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Speaker 1: for myself and for our independent judiciary, she says, I

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Speaker 1: am the subject of unprecedented legal proceedings. I am pursuing

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Speaker 1: this fight for myself and our independent judiciary.

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Speaker 2: You know what that is?

1300
01:13:59,240 --> 01:14:00,519
Speaker 3: Such boy crap.

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Speaker 1: She committed a crime, she I believe, went a trial,

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01:14:06,120 --> 01:14:09,160
Speaker 1: I think I'm not sure was a jury trial, and

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Speaker 1: found guilty.

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Speaker 3: You can't do that.

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Speaker 1: You can't do it as a citizen. You certainly cannot

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Speaker 1: do it as a judge.

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Speaker 3: And she says.

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Speaker 1: At the end of this thing, Judge Dugan says, her

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Speaker 1: case threatens the quote independence of our judiciary. And again

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Speaker 1: this is the Wall Street Journal op ed. But her

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Speaker 1: actions intentionally helped a migrant accused of assault for federal

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Speaker 1: law enforcement. Her example is a sad commentary, a sad

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Speaker 1: but necessary lesson to other judges who let partisanship trump

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Speaker 1: their obligations as officers of the court.

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Speaker 3: Well done, Wall Street Journal. This woman is no hero.

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Speaker 3: She's no hero whatsoever.

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Speaker 1: She's not pursuing the fight for an our dependent judiciary.

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Speaker 1: We do have an independent judiciary. Judges can't break the law, though,

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Speaker 1: Judge Dugan, and and I'm sorry you lost your job.

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Speaker 1: But uh, perhaps judges, if this ever happens again, or

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Speaker 1: any elected official, public official is in a position to

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Speaker 1: do that, they don't do it. So she's got nobody

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Speaker 1: to blame it herself. Okay, let's see. Let's talk to

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Speaker 1: fran In Mason. Hey, frank to good good?

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Speaker 6: How you doing nor good?

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Speaker 11: Hey?

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Speaker 10: I was trying to call the three congress people that

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Speaker 10: voted to continue to spend money wastelessly. And guess what

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Speaker 10: if you try to call a US congress person you're.

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Speaker 5: Not going to be able to do it.

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Speaker 3: What was this locally, friend or Minnesota? That's this is

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Speaker 3: here in Ohio.

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Speaker 10: Really, Yeah, you try to call a congress person their

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Speaker 10: quote voicemail isn't working.

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Speaker 3: That's crazy, man, that's crazy.

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Speaker 10: That's crazy.

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Speaker 1: Usually, I mean I've done it before, not for a while,

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Speaker 1: and boom, I get a real human being right off

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Speaker 1: the bat.

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Speaker 3: That's an all three.

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Speaker 14: Of them, huh, all three of them.

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Speaker 10: So just as an fyi, hey, also, just your newscaps

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01:16:19,479 --> 01:16:24,720
Speaker 10: the news at ten thirty blames the measle epidemic.

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Speaker 2: This is WLW reporting this, okay, on.

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Speaker 10: People not vaccinating their kids of a disease that was

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Speaker 10: eradicated years ago.

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Speaker 16: Yeah, it's our fault.

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Speaker 10: His parents not to inject young babies for something that

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Speaker 10: they didn't need. They didn't blame the twenty million people

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Speaker 10: that came from the armpit of the world into our

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Speaker 10: country who were not vaccinated, who may carry who knows

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Speaker 10: what disease.

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Speaker 1: No, I understand that, and I have in the course

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Speaker 1: of doing this job a number of times people have

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Speaker 1: not agreed with the newscast. The thing of it is

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Speaker 1: that's separate from the talk radio part of it. I

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Speaker 1: do hear what you're saying, and I appreciate you letting

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Speaker 1: me know.

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Speaker 2: Yep, Okay, thank you God bless man.

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Speaker 3: Okay you two frand thanks.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know.

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Speaker 1: There are two separate things, but I get what he's saying. Hey,

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Speaker 1: how's about Jay in Centerville? Hey, good morning, Jay?

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Speaker 3: How are you Jay there? I'm good, I'm good. What

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Speaker 3: you got for me?

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Speaker 20: Oh you know, I'm the I'm the one that's the

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Speaker 20: people refugee from the people's public Portland. A lot of

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Speaker 20: DejaVu with Minnesota. Yeah, craziness. I called it to respectfully

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Speaker 20: disagree with your caller. Okay, So two things. I saw

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Speaker 20: an overhead view camera where his leg was clearly brushed.

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Speaker 3: By the car the police officer.

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Speaker 20: So yeah, absolutely, and that's all over Facebook. It's I

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Speaker 20: don't know where that shot came from, but it's definitely

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Speaker 20: not AI. It's it's real and his leg was hit.

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Speaker 20: So the other thing I keep hearing as well, her

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Speaker 20: tires will turned to the right, Her tires were turned right.

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Speaker 8: He doesn't know that.

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Speaker 20: All he knows is that there's and they's been and

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Speaker 20: then she's been told to get out to stop. I

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Speaker 20: also read that she ran around harassing those guys all

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Speaker 20: day for several days prior to this incident. That she's

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Speaker 20: a social justice warrior, and you know it's it's her fault,

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Speaker 20: but you don't impede a police officer. Now, if I

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Speaker 20: saw if I saw a beat cop in downtown Cincinnati

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Speaker 20: arresting somebody, and I didn't feel like it was the

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Speaker 20: right thing, there's no way I'm getting in the middle

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Speaker 20: of that. So why is an ice officer different than

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Speaker 20: a beat cop?

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Speaker 2: And since that they're not been.

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Speaker 20: Brainwashed by the politicians that these people are hurt legitimate

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Speaker 20: and she got herself killed.

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Speaker 1: And it is a sad thing, But what did the

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Speaker 1: Vice president say? It's a tragedy of her own making.

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Speaker 1: And it's just obvious to me. And I wasn't convinced

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Speaker 1: until last night when I saw that last video because

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Speaker 1: the other ones weren't really good angles.

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Speaker 3: That's exactly what she tried to do to hit the officer.

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Speaker 1: And we talked about it just a minute ago, Graham

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Speaker 1: versus Connor, that case stands for the proposition one proposition

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Speaker 1: that you got to put yourself in the position of

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Speaker 1: that cop at the time it's happening, at the time

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Speaker 1: the cops got to make a split second decision.

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Speaker 3: You can't second guess.

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Speaker 20: So I think it's been he's been hit by a

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Speaker 20: car before, exactly.

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Speaker 1: I heard that, and you know what, that would be

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Speaker 1: factored into it too. But you know, again, I wish

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Speaker 1: people could turn the temperature down a litt little bit

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Speaker 1: on this thing. But you know what, that's just not

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Speaker 1: the way it is in today's day and.

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Speaker 3: Age, you know.

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Speaker 20: And and how irresponsible is she for having all those

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Speaker 20: children go out on the road, leave Colorado, go to

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Speaker 20: Minneapolis to go harass police officers, chase them around and

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Speaker 20: impede their duties while she has three kids sitting at home.

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Speaker 3: It's a hell of an example.

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Speaker 17: You know.

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Speaker 20: It's a shame.

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Speaker 3: I appreciate the call, Thanks Mike, Okay, thank you. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I mean I can't stress it enough. And I dealt

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Speaker 3: with it. As a prosecutor.

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Speaker 1: You have to put yourself in the position of the

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Speaker 1: police officer at the time and at the place where

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Speaker 1: the uh, the death happened. You kind of have to

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Speaker 1: substitute what he's thinking for what you're thinking. He or

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Speaker 1: she and the Supreme Court I think it was the

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Speaker 1: mid eighties.

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Speaker 3: I'm not sure. Gave us some good guidance on that

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Speaker 3: in that case.

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Speaker 1: You know what, maybe someday we'll discuss that case, uh

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Speaker 1: in detail, because it's interesting and obviously time worthy.

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Speaker 17: Uh.

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Speaker 1: Tim in Minnesota, Oh wants to talk about Minnesota. I'm sorry,

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Speaker 1: sorry I put you in Minnesota?

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Speaker 3: Tim? Are you there?

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Speaker 4: Tim?

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Speaker 3: All right? Hopefully you'll call back. Jeff and Zenia? Hey, Jeff,

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01:21:24,800 --> 01:21:25,200
Speaker 3: what's up?

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Speaker 5: Hey?

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Speaker 2: Good morning, Mike.

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Speaker 16: Hey.

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Speaker 11: Before I get started, I'd like to commend you on

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01:21:30,760 --> 01:21:33,559
Speaker 11: being one of the talk show hosts there that actually

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01:21:33,680 --> 01:21:35,160
Speaker 11: take calls, because there's quite.

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Speaker 3: A number of them on there.

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Speaker 11: I hear the all.

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Speaker 3: I hear that a lot.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 11: Well, because also too, you know, we have a voice

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Speaker 11: out here too, and everybody's got their opinion on things.

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Speaker 11: And I just wish more of them did as much

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Speaker 11: as you did, because a lot of them said, don't

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01:21:49,920 --> 01:21:51,680
Speaker 11: take calls at all, and they have different guests on,

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01:21:51,840 --> 01:21:53,360
Speaker 11: you know, every time, every day of the week, and

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Speaker 11: it's just.

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Speaker 1: You know, that's not what talk radio is about, exactly,

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Speaker 1: And that's that's I agree with you on that. I mean,

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Speaker 1: other guys can do what they want, but I enjoy

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Speaker 1: taking calls. I think it's important I.

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Speaker 2: Think it is too.

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Speaker 11: Besides that, I got to I mean, I've got to

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Speaker 11: compliment a couple of other callers too, because as a

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Speaker 11: person who lives in the United States, when a cop

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Speaker 11: gives you a command, you better listen to them, or,

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Speaker 11: as Jdvan says, you put yourself in a position that

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Speaker 11: may not turn out well for you and people. You know,

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01:22:25,720 --> 01:22:28,200
Speaker 11: we're growing up now where you know, all these YouTube

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Speaker 11: videos show you what to do if a cop talks

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01:22:30,720 --> 01:22:32,560
Speaker 11: to you, what stops you, and what you can do,

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Speaker 11: what you can't do. And the other thing is too.

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Speaker 11: A lot of these people these protests, if they're being paid,

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Speaker 11: you know, to do that. They're there for a specific reason,

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Speaker 11: and it's not basically to promote happiness and well being.

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Speaker 11: They're there to torment as well as agitate as well

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Speaker 11: as basically confront the cops just to get a reaction

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01:22:52,520 --> 01:22:54,640
Speaker 11: so you can have a situation like they did in

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Speaker 11: the Cincinnati where they get paid us nice substantial little

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Speaker 11: stump some for doing so.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, and I'm sorry, go ahead, go ahead, No,

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Speaker 1: go ahead, go ahead. Well I was just going to say,

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Speaker 1: I mean, you're absolutely right about that. I wouldn't want

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Speaker 1: to be a cop in today's world at all, with

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Speaker 1: everything that's going on, and I believe they are getting paid.

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Speaker 1: I think I mentioned earlier in the program. I'm watching

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Speaker 1: somebody's coverage of it, probably Fox yesterday, and the u

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Speaker 1: was a Fox reporter was talking to this person as

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Speaker 1: Laura Ingram, that's right, that's right, that's right, And the

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Speaker 1: lady said, or a little bit of an argument, and

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Speaker 1: the protester said, well, I am working, which indicates to

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Speaker 1: me somebody's paying her, probably a George Soros type.

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Speaker 11: Person exactly, or she could be working for a company.

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Speaker 2: This is.

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Speaker 11: Hey, you know you want to go out and protest,

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Speaker 11: go ahead, just like a lot of the schools in

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Speaker 11: the area too. That yeah, you know, they'll let the

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Speaker 11: schools out to go have a little little protest parade,

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Speaker 11: you know, because they don't like X, Y or Z.

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Speaker 17: You know.

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Speaker 11: And wait a minute, I thought when we used to

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Speaker 11: go to school, you know, that's what we were going too,

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Speaker 11: not to basically go out and do a little parade

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Speaker 11: down the street showing hey, we're supporting this or we're

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Speaker 11: supporting that.

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Speaker 14: You know.

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Speaker 11: It's yeah, it's and that shows direct proportion on the

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Speaker 11: fact that the teachers now are the ones that are

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Speaker 11: cheerleading these students and you know, tell them, Okay, you

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Speaker 11: need to be justice warriors.

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Speaker 14: You need to do this, and you need to do that.

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Speaker 11: And that's another reason why are schools everything else are

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Speaker 11: in such the position that they are, is because we're

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Speaker 11: not teaching what people need to learn so that they

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Speaker 11: go out and actually live life.

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Speaker 3: You know, you are so right.

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Speaker 1: About a month or so ago, I got on the

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Speaker 1: website of the NEA and ac ANYA National Education Association

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Speaker 1: at AFT American Federation and Teachers whatever they are.

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Speaker 3: Two big unions.

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Speaker 1: I did not see one thing about how are we

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Speaker 1: going to get our kids to get their test scores up?

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Speaker 3: How are we going to teach math? Every time they.

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Speaker 1: Open their mouth, it's just all liberal radical politics. They

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Speaker 1: ought to do their damn job and bring our math

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Speaker 1: and our reading scores up. They are they're completely out

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Speaker 1: of control. They don't They could care less about the

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Speaker 1: kids they.

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Speaker 11: Teach exactly one one quick thing on. I know you've

1528
01:25:12,479 --> 01:25:14,720
Speaker 11: got other people, so I'll get going. You know, the

1529
01:25:14,800 --> 01:25:17,200
Speaker 11: schools have been having this problem for a long time.

1530
01:25:17,439 --> 01:25:19,320
Speaker 11: You know, you've got kids going into college now that

1531
01:25:19,400 --> 01:25:21,519
Speaker 11: either can't read aren't up to the snuff of what

1532
01:25:21,800 --> 01:25:24,639
Speaker 11: where they should be, and the teachers are the schools

1533
01:25:24,680 --> 01:25:26,280
Speaker 11: are looking back. We'll wait a minute, it's not our

1534
01:25:26,360 --> 01:25:28,960
Speaker 11: fault all wayminute, bull crap. You're the ones that has

1535
01:25:29,040 --> 01:25:33,080
Speaker 11: the responsibility to be teaching these students and you should

1536
01:25:33,280 --> 01:25:36,760
Speaker 11: hold them back when they are like COVID, you pushed

1537
01:25:36,800 --> 01:25:39,960
Speaker 11: the whole generation through in two years that had no

1538
01:25:40,120 --> 01:25:42,880
Speaker 11: business even going up to the next grade because most

1539
01:25:42,960 --> 01:25:46,479
Speaker 11: of them are on advance or remote learning and at

1540
01:25:46,680 --> 01:25:49,000
Speaker 11: fourth or fifty percent of the time, none of them

1541
01:25:49,040 --> 01:25:52,160
Speaker 11: are even showing up for that. So we've got multiple problems.

1542
01:25:52,240 --> 01:25:53,200
Speaker 2: But I'll let you go.

1543
01:25:53,360 --> 01:25:55,439
Speaker 11: Great show, Mike. I appreciate the fact that you do

1544
01:25:55,600 --> 01:25:58,080
Speaker 11: take a lot of calls and you know, keep at it.

1545
01:25:58,200 --> 01:25:59,000
Speaker 11: I really appreciate it.

1546
01:25:59,160 --> 01:26:03,439
Speaker 1: Okay, jehank you for the call. Let's talk to Bill

1547
01:26:03,640 --> 01:26:07,160
Speaker 1: in Kentucky. He wants to talk about paid agitators. Pretty

1548
01:26:07,200 --> 01:26:07,960
Speaker 1: much on topic.

1549
01:26:08,200 --> 01:26:12,280
Speaker 3: Hey Bill, how you doing, Oh just fine, covering a

1550
01:26:12,320 --> 01:26:12,720
Speaker 3: good day.

1551
01:26:12,960 --> 01:26:16,120
Speaker 8: Good And but I'll tell you somebody needs to be

1552
01:26:16,280 --> 01:26:19,680
Speaker 8: looked into this. You're right, that's a good word. You've

1553
01:26:19,720 --> 01:26:23,200
Speaker 8: got a good word for it. And now look up

1554
01:26:23,280 --> 01:26:26,360
Speaker 8: against the law. Now, somebody why are these people not

1555
01:26:26,479 --> 01:26:29,800
Speaker 8: being investigated and locked up to shut this stuff down?

1556
01:26:30,560 --> 01:26:33,080
Speaker 3: Well, I don't know that it's against the law, though, Bill.

1557
01:26:34,040 --> 01:26:37,600
Speaker 8: You know, well, I think it is because they're inciting

1558
01:26:38,880 --> 01:26:40,639
Speaker 8: agitating violence.

1559
01:26:40,760 --> 01:26:44,200
Speaker 1: Man, Well, inciting the violence. That's that's a crime in Ohio.

1560
01:26:44,320 --> 01:26:46,760
Speaker 1: But you've got to have a lot to be able

1561
01:26:46,800 --> 01:26:49,720
Speaker 1: to prevail on that. But I understand what you're saying, though.

1562
01:26:51,160 --> 01:26:56,720
Speaker 8: They somebody's kind of shut these people down. It's it's illegal.

1563
01:26:56,800 --> 01:26:59,320
Speaker 8: They could you know, they can all lawyers. They can

1564
01:26:59,400 --> 01:27:02,040
Speaker 8: always find a way to shut this stuff down.

1565
01:27:02,320 --> 01:27:03,160
Speaker 14: The government can.

1566
01:27:03,720 --> 01:27:05,479
Speaker 8: I mean, if anybody can do it, to be the

1567
01:27:05,560 --> 01:27:10,760
Speaker 8: government get these people and you know, penalize them. And

1568
01:27:10,960 --> 01:27:14,160
Speaker 8: if they find out they've been hire these people to

1569
01:27:14,479 --> 01:27:17,000
Speaker 8: go in the middle of the street and do all

1570
01:27:17,080 --> 01:27:20,679
Speaker 8: this stuff, they should be locked up there. They're complished, dude,

1571
01:27:20,760 --> 01:27:22,000
Speaker 8: they're in charge of.

1572
01:27:22,360 --> 01:27:25,400
Speaker 1: I hear you, Bill, I hear you. I appreciate the call.

1573
01:27:25,439 --> 01:27:26,960
Speaker 1: I got to try and get a couple more in

1574
01:27:27,560 --> 01:27:30,160
Speaker 1: thank you. Yeah, I don't know about that. There might

1575
01:27:30,240 --> 01:27:34,880
Speaker 1: be First Amendment issues there. I understand the frustration, believe me.

1576
01:27:35,320 --> 01:27:38,160
Speaker 1: And the first thing he asked, don't these people have jobs?

1577
01:27:38,240 --> 01:27:41,240
Speaker 1: Because this week It was a lot of it in

1578
01:27:41,360 --> 01:27:45,120
Speaker 1: the daytime too, so you know, I don't know that

1579
01:27:45,240 --> 01:27:52,360
Speaker 1: it's illegal, but it's very annoying. Let's talk to Randy. Hey, Randy,

1580
01:27:52,760 --> 01:27:53,080
Speaker 1: how you.

1581
01:27:53,160 --> 01:27:55,519
Speaker 2: Doing pretty good?

1582
01:27:55,560 --> 01:27:57,000
Speaker 6: And Mike, how were you good?

1583
01:27:57,280 --> 01:27:57,479
Speaker 3: Good?

1584
01:27:57,880 --> 01:27:57,920
Speaker 17: Go?

1585
01:27:59,040 --> 01:28:00,200
Speaker 14: First time I remember.

1586
01:28:00,200 --> 01:28:04,880
Speaker 5: Gotten through and it's nice to be you to get

1587
01:28:04,960 --> 01:28:08,360
Speaker 5: through to you because I've known you for years. You

1588
01:28:08,479 --> 01:28:11,000
Speaker 5: used to come in my businesses when I was downtown,

1589
01:28:11,120 --> 01:28:12,439
Speaker 5: in my Schuber prayer shops.

1590
01:28:12,640 --> 01:28:16,720
Speaker 20: Oh yeah, I did a lot, Yes, you did.

1591
01:28:17,000 --> 01:28:23,640
Speaker 5: Anyway, I believe our problem is the Democrats is the

1592
01:28:23,840 --> 01:28:29,599
Speaker 5: largest criminal organization in the United States. They get away

1593
01:28:29,800 --> 01:28:32,360
Speaker 5: with everything they want to get away with.

1594
01:28:32,960 --> 01:28:34,360
Speaker 9: Don't we don't.

1595
01:28:34,240 --> 01:28:39,599
Speaker 5: Impeach their Democrat president that obviously needed impeached. We got

1596
01:28:39,720 --> 01:28:43,120
Speaker 5: Democrat women that come out and say, go do violence

1597
01:28:43,240 --> 01:28:45,680
Speaker 5: on the street, and then they get to stay in

1598
01:28:45,760 --> 01:28:49,559
Speaker 5: their congressional seats. I don't understand why we're not getting

1599
01:28:49,640 --> 01:28:52,280
Speaker 5: rid of these people and getting them out of our government.

1600
01:28:52,840 --> 01:28:55,280
Speaker 5: Why should they be allowed to do it? If Trump

1601
01:28:55,400 --> 01:29:00,439
Speaker 5: says one thing misleading, there's fifty million pece on it.

1602
01:29:01,160 --> 01:29:02,360
Speaker 16: Yeah, it's just media.

1603
01:29:03,439 --> 01:29:05,640
Speaker 5: The media is owned by the Democrats.

1604
01:29:06,240 --> 01:29:08,240
Speaker 1: But you know what, and you're right, about that, Randy.

1605
01:29:08,840 --> 01:29:12,640
Speaker 1: But it's starting to get a little bit better. The

1606
01:29:12,880 --> 01:29:16,240
Speaker 1: Washington Post, believe it or not, had an op ed

1607
01:29:16,360 --> 01:29:19,439
Speaker 1: this week. I think it was on the Minnesota riots

1608
01:29:19,520 --> 01:29:22,000
Speaker 1: or whatever the hell it was, but they actually took

1609
01:29:22,600 --> 01:29:28,240
Speaker 1: not a moderate tone. It was actually a conservative tone.

1610
01:29:28,520 --> 01:29:31,920
Speaker 1: Little cracks are starting to happen. Uh But boy, I

1611
01:29:32,040 --> 01:29:34,679
Speaker 1: tell you, it's that that comes on top of years

1612
01:29:35,000 --> 01:29:39,000
Speaker 1: and years and years of outright bias. And I've been

1613
01:29:39,080 --> 01:29:42,000
Speaker 1: watching this stuff for a long time. It's better now

1614
01:29:42,160 --> 01:29:44,640
Speaker 1: than it used to be. But hey, I'm bumping up

1615
01:29:44,640 --> 01:29:47,160
Speaker 1: against the news here though. I appreciate the call, Randy.

1616
01:29:47,280 --> 01:29:49,640
Speaker 5: All Micha, Well, thank you for taking my call. I

1617
01:29:49,680 --> 01:29:50,320
Speaker 5: have a great thing.

1618
01:29:50,360 --> 01:29:53,880
Speaker 1: Okay, you too, thank you. Yeah, it's better than it was.

1619
01:29:54,160 --> 01:29:56,639
Speaker 1: I think I've said before. Back in the day, all

1620
01:29:56,720 --> 01:30:02,000
Speaker 1: you had ABC, NBC, CBS, that's it, and all we

1621
01:30:02,200 --> 01:30:05,200
Speaker 1: had was the National Review. It's a lot better now,

1622
01:30:05,360 --> 01:30:08,880
Speaker 1: thank god for Fox News. All Right, we got to

1623
01:30:08,920 --> 01:30:10,519
Speaker 1: take a break, but when we get back, we're going

1624
01:30:10,600 --> 01:30:14,240
Speaker 1: to talk to FOP president Ken Kober. I got some

1625
01:30:14,400 --> 01:30:18,559
Speaker 1: questions for him about this whole situation with paying off

1626
01:30:18,880 --> 01:30:22,559
Speaker 1: a family that tried to kill a cop and did

1627
01:30:22,680 --> 01:30:25,560
Speaker 1: kill a cop, the young one I think tried, but

1628
01:30:26,200 --> 01:30:30,600
Speaker 1: Sergeant Henderson was brutally murdered in the city of Cincinnati.

1629
01:30:30,920 --> 01:30:33,799
Speaker 3: At least some of them want to give that family

1630
01:30:33,880 --> 01:30:34,280
Speaker 3: some money.

1631
01:30:34,479 --> 01:30:37,240
Speaker 1: No, no, anyway, I'm going to talk to Ken about

1632
01:30:37,280 --> 01:30:39,839
Speaker 1: that when we get back, Mike Allen, Saturday Midday.

1633
01:30:41,000 --> 01:30:46,800
Speaker 19: The war on drugs drives on first dope running votes intercepted.

1634
01:30:47,280 --> 01:30:51,320
Speaker 19: Now the capture of Venezuela's president, will there be any

1635
01:30:51,439 --> 01:30:57,000
Speaker 19: more regime changes, countries invaded or cartels contained? Cheap it

1636
01:30:57,120 --> 01:30:59,760
Speaker 19: Here for the latest news Radio.

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01:31:01,320 --> 01:31:05,599
Speaker 22: L W how Stephen Curry and this is gentleman's cut.

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01:31:06,080 --> 01:31:08,920
Speaker 22: I think what makes gentlemen's cut different is me being

1639
01:31:08,960 --> 01:31:11,400
Speaker 22: a part of, you know, developing the profile.

1640
01:31:11,880 --> 01:31:15,880
Speaker 3: Hey, we're back, Mike Allen, Saturday Midday. Well.

1641
01:31:16,000 --> 01:31:19,559
Speaker 1: Fox nineteen reported earlier in the week that FOP President

1642
01:31:19,680 --> 01:31:23,799
Speaker 1: Ken Kober says Cincinnati City Manager Cheryl Long is quote

1643
01:31:24,120 --> 01:31:28,759
Speaker 1: scheming to secretly pay close quote the family of Rodney

1644
01:31:29,000 --> 01:31:34,519
Speaker 1: Hinton quote potentially millions in a settlement close quote over.

1645
01:31:34,439 --> 01:31:35,960
Speaker 3: The death of his son Ryan.

1646
01:31:36,439 --> 01:31:39,720
Speaker 1: This thing's got the entire town talking and well, at

1647
01:31:39,720 --> 01:31:42,760
Speaker 1: the end of the day, in my opinion, at least

1648
01:31:42,840 --> 01:31:45,040
Speaker 1: it comes down to what's right and what's wrong.

1649
01:31:45,760 --> 01:31:48,360
Speaker 3: The president is here, Ken, thanks so much for calling in.

1650
01:31:49,760 --> 01:31:50,720
Speaker 2: Sure Mike, thanks for having me.

1651
01:31:51,280 --> 01:31:53,639
Speaker 1: Uh, can you say as much as you can say

1652
01:31:53,680 --> 01:31:56,439
Speaker 1: about how this how this whole thing went down, because

1653
01:31:56,479 --> 01:32:00,720
Speaker 1: the city manager denies that it happened. I think I

1654
01:32:00,880 --> 01:32:03,559
Speaker 1: know who I believe, but can you kind of give

1655
01:32:03,640 --> 01:32:05,800
Speaker 1: us an overview of that and then we'll talk about

1656
01:32:05,840 --> 01:32:06,760
Speaker 1: the substance of it.

1657
01:32:08,120 --> 01:32:08,320
Speaker 9: Sure.

1658
01:32:08,360 --> 01:32:10,280
Speaker 2: So, I had a source from city hall that called

1659
01:32:10,360 --> 01:32:15,280
Speaker 2: me Thursday afternoon. Uh, made me aware that this is

1660
01:32:15,320 --> 01:32:17,720
Speaker 2: what's going on. You know, the city managers trying to

1661
01:32:19,040 --> 01:32:23,040
Speaker 2: settle and they actually had a tentative agreement, and that

1662
01:32:23,240 --> 01:32:25,599
Speaker 2: the city managers trying to keep this quiet and they

1663
01:32:25,600 --> 01:32:27,840
Speaker 2: were just going to kind of get this done, you know,

1664
01:32:28,080 --> 01:32:31,000
Speaker 2: out of the view of the public, which obviously was

1665
01:32:31,120 --> 01:32:34,560
Speaker 2: confirmed by Councilman Cramerton where he said we're going to

1666
01:32:34,600 --> 01:32:36,200
Speaker 2: be getting an update. We're going to talk about this

1667
01:32:36,320 --> 01:32:39,040
Speaker 2: in executive session. For those that don't know what executive

1668
01:32:39,080 --> 01:32:42,320
Speaker 2: session is, they kick the public out, you know, they

1669
01:32:42,360 --> 01:32:46,919
Speaker 2: have an executive session literally means that it's it's all protected,

1670
01:32:46,960 --> 01:32:51,160
Speaker 2: there's there's notes taken. The people inside are not supposed

1671
01:32:51,160 --> 01:32:54,080
Speaker 2: to discuss what happened or what's going to happen, And

1672
01:32:54,439 --> 01:32:56,000
Speaker 2: they said, he confirmed that. And if you look at

1673
01:32:56,040 --> 01:32:59,639
Speaker 2: the city manager's statement that she put out, she didn't

1674
01:32:59,640 --> 01:33:04,759
Speaker 2: deny that there are negotiations. She claims there's a tentative agreement. However,

1675
01:33:05,200 --> 01:33:08,160
Speaker 2: I was able to confirm that as I spoke to

1676
01:33:08,800 --> 01:33:11,439
Speaker 2: one of the officers involved that was the law department

1677
01:33:11,520 --> 01:33:13,840
Speaker 2: reached out to them to let them know that a

1678
01:33:13,920 --> 01:33:15,280
Speaker 2: tentative agreement had been reached.

1679
01:33:16,040 --> 01:33:17,439
Speaker 1: Let me ask you this, I mean, are you in

1680
01:33:17,479 --> 01:33:20,120
Speaker 1: a position to say what that agreement was? I don't

1681
01:33:20,120 --> 01:33:23,040
Speaker 1: want you to violate any any kind of trust or anything,

1682
01:33:23,160 --> 01:33:25,600
Speaker 1: but I thought i'd ask no.

1683
01:33:25,760 --> 01:33:27,479
Speaker 2: And that's the problem is. I started reaching out to

1684
01:33:27,520 --> 01:33:30,560
Speaker 2: council members. I go, hey, I understand there's there's some agreements,

1685
01:33:30,760 --> 01:33:33,120
Speaker 2: settlement agreements and reached. What do we talk about? How

1686
01:33:33,160 --> 01:33:35,439
Speaker 2: much money is this? And these council members are like,

1687
01:33:35,439 --> 01:33:37,880
Speaker 2: what are you talking about? She has no idea, you know,

1688
01:33:38,040 --> 01:33:40,639
Speaker 2: so we could say, you say that it's not secretive,

1689
01:33:40,680 --> 01:33:42,360
Speaker 2: but why does the city council know about this?

1690
01:33:42,760 --> 01:33:45,600
Speaker 1: That is, I'm telling you what that they don't know

1691
01:33:45,680 --> 01:33:47,760
Speaker 1: what the hell is going on down there? The left

1692
01:33:47,800 --> 01:33:50,040
Speaker 1: hand doesn't know what the right hand's doing. It's not

1693
01:33:50,320 --> 01:33:52,880
Speaker 1: just this, it's a hell of a lot of things.

1694
01:33:53,400 --> 01:33:55,960
Speaker 1: But I'm sure you know you've got two council members

1695
01:33:56,040 --> 01:34:00,880
Speaker 1: on that council that boy came out strongly in your favor,

1696
01:34:01,040 --> 01:34:04,760
Speaker 1: Jeff Kramerton and Seth Walsh. I mean, did you get

1697
01:34:04,800 --> 01:34:06,439
Speaker 1: to read what they had to say about it?

1698
01:34:07,640 --> 01:34:12,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, Actually, not not only those two, but Councilman Jefferies.

1699
01:34:12,200 --> 01:34:14,120
Speaker 2: He actually reached out to me Thursday night.

1700
01:34:14,240 --> 01:34:15,040
Speaker 3: Oh okay, And so.

1701
01:34:15,160 --> 01:34:19,680
Speaker 2: Ken, I'm completely against this. This is absolutely wrong and

1702
01:34:19,920 --> 01:34:22,479
Speaker 2: I'm against it. We shouldn't be doing this, and we're

1703
01:34:22,479 --> 01:34:23,920
Speaker 2: going to do what we have to do to stop this.

1704
01:34:24,720 --> 01:34:26,679
Speaker 2: And then, as well as I've been told, I haven't

1705
01:34:26,680 --> 01:34:29,599
Speaker 2: been able to confirm this yet that Scotti Johnson as

1706
01:34:29,640 --> 01:34:32,280
Speaker 2: well as against this. I don't know how any council

1707
01:34:32,320 --> 01:34:33,400
Speaker 2: member can be for this.

1708
01:34:33,840 --> 01:34:34,479
Speaker 3: I don't either.

1709
01:34:34,640 --> 01:34:37,479
Speaker 1: I mean, I just want to read one or two

1710
01:34:37,600 --> 01:34:41,000
Speaker 1: sentences about what council Member Walsh said, because he said

1711
01:34:41,040 --> 01:34:44,960
Speaker 1: it so well. It is a tremendous disrespect to the

1712
01:34:45,040 --> 01:34:48,400
Speaker 1: families involved, and to make a public spectacle out of

1713
01:34:48,439 --> 01:34:51,600
Speaker 1: a tragedy, I think it's unconsionable for the City of

1714
01:34:51,680 --> 01:34:56,120
Speaker 1: Cincinnati to be considering a settlement without the full deliberation

1715
01:34:56,240 --> 01:35:00,679
Speaker 1: of council. The tragedy that unfolded and made devastated our community,

1716
01:35:01,040 --> 01:35:05,000
Speaker 1: and is our responsibility to heal the wreckage, not to

1717
01:35:05,160 --> 01:35:10,400
Speaker 1: create more division and kremiting. Statement was strong as well,

1718
01:35:10,800 --> 01:35:14,120
Speaker 1: So obviously you do have some support there. Let's talk

1719
01:35:14,160 --> 01:35:16,599
Speaker 1: about the guts of it, though, Ken, I mean, it's

1720
01:35:16,720 --> 01:35:21,439
Speaker 1: bizarre when you think about it. The legislative body, Cincinnati

1721
01:35:21,479 --> 01:35:24,840
Speaker 1: City Council and the city Manager are apparent, and some

1722
01:35:25,040 --> 01:35:27,960
Speaker 1: on Council, not all, are apparently thinking about giving a

1723
01:35:28,120 --> 01:35:35,400
Speaker 1: settlement to a family whose family member killed a police officer,

1724
01:35:35,760 --> 01:35:38,839
Speaker 1: a deputy sheriff up there at UC directing traffic, Sergeant

1725
01:35:38,880 --> 01:35:43,479
Speaker 1: Anderson in just the most horrible way possible. A lot

1726
01:35:43,560 --> 01:35:46,719
Speaker 1: of people are scratching their heads on this one, Ken, saying,

1727
01:35:46,840 --> 01:35:48,040
Speaker 1: what the hell are they thinking?

1728
01:35:49,439 --> 01:35:51,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, you know, I've been around a police

1729
01:35:51,040 --> 01:35:54,360
Speaker 2: department near the twenty six years and one of the

1730
01:35:54,439 --> 01:35:56,560
Speaker 2: hardest things that I had to do Thursday before I

1731
01:35:56,640 --> 01:35:59,320
Speaker 2: went to the media to talk about this. What's contacting

1732
01:35:59,360 --> 01:36:02,080
Speaker 2: the Hendersons and letting them know, Hey, this, this is

1733
01:36:02,120 --> 01:36:03,640
Speaker 2: what's gonna happen. I didn't want them to see this

1734
01:36:03,720 --> 01:36:06,160
Speaker 2: in the media. First. I wanted them to be able

1735
01:36:06,200 --> 01:36:08,760
Speaker 2: to hear it before it got out there, that this

1736
01:36:09,000 --> 01:36:11,720
Speaker 2: was this is a potential, you know, thing that was

1737
01:36:11,760 --> 01:36:14,120
Speaker 2: going on, and that that they also had my support

1738
01:36:14,160 --> 01:36:15,519
Speaker 2: that I was going to do everything that I can

1739
01:36:15,640 --> 01:36:19,200
Speaker 2: to stop this from happening. And they, certainly you were thankful,

1740
01:36:19,280 --> 01:36:21,400
Speaker 2: and they're the same way. They're they're scratching their head,

1741
01:36:21,439 --> 01:36:24,960
Speaker 2: going how how can they possibly do this? It just

1742
01:36:25,040 --> 01:36:28,880
Speaker 2: doesn't make any sense. It only further, you know, you know,

1743
01:36:28,920 --> 01:36:32,560
Speaker 2: it has the emotions running high, victimizes, you know, the

1744
01:36:32,600 --> 01:36:35,719
Speaker 2: Henderson's even further, it's not enough. You know that Deputy

1745
01:36:35,800 --> 01:36:38,760
Speaker 2: Henderson was viciously murdered. Yep, and now on top of it,

1746
01:36:38,840 --> 01:36:42,120
Speaker 2: we're somehow going to give a settlement to this family

1747
01:36:42,120 --> 01:36:43,200
Speaker 2: if it doesn't make any sense.

1748
01:36:43,520 --> 01:36:47,040
Speaker 3: Do you think the votes are on enough votes are

1749
01:36:47,080 --> 01:36:48,320
Speaker 3: on council to stop it?

1750
01:36:50,240 --> 01:36:50,880
Speaker 2: I certainly hope.

1751
01:36:50,920 --> 01:36:50,960
Speaker 3: So.

1752
01:36:51,360 --> 01:36:54,479
Speaker 2: Yeah. My understanding talking to some of these council members

1753
01:36:54,560 --> 01:36:57,479
Speaker 2: is they're going to do everything they can uh to

1754
01:36:57,600 --> 01:37:00,280
Speaker 2: make sure if this gets brought to a vote, which

1755
01:37:00,400 --> 01:37:03,400
Speaker 2: I certainly hope it does, that they're going to have

1756
01:37:03,640 --> 01:37:06,599
Speaker 2: the moral compass to vote against us.

1757
01:37:07,320 --> 01:37:09,559
Speaker 1: They have to, and now I know some of them will,

1758
01:37:09,680 --> 01:37:12,560
Speaker 1: you know, they'll pontificate and say, hey, you know, we

1759
01:37:12,720 --> 01:37:14,120
Speaker 1: had to do this because we didn't want to go

1760
01:37:14,200 --> 01:37:17,080
Speaker 1: to trial and get hit with a huge judgment, which

1761
01:37:17,160 --> 01:37:17,680
Speaker 1: they would not.

1762
01:37:18,479 --> 01:37:18,599
Speaker 9: Uh.

1763
01:37:19,080 --> 01:37:21,400
Speaker 3: But it'll be interesting to see at the end of

1764
01:37:21,439 --> 01:37:21,760
Speaker 3: the day.

1765
01:37:21,800 --> 01:37:24,960
Speaker 1: Obviously, I hope that it all comes out that they said, well,

1766
01:37:25,560 --> 01:37:28,439
Speaker 1: that was a bad idea, We're not going to do it. Uh,

1767
01:37:28,520 --> 01:37:31,439
Speaker 1: they do go, as you mentioned, going to executive session.

1768
01:37:31,479 --> 01:37:35,439
Speaker 1: It's Monday. Do you expect to have some resolution or

1769
01:37:35,600 --> 01:37:38,400
Speaker 1: maybe getting close to a resolution by the.

1770
01:37:38,520 --> 01:37:39,080
Speaker 3: End of the day.

1771
01:37:40,960 --> 01:37:43,439
Speaker 2: I certainly hope. So, you know, I hope the resolution

1772
01:37:43,720 --> 01:37:46,240
Speaker 2: is we're going to fight. We're going to port these

1773
01:37:46,320 --> 01:37:48,600
Speaker 2: officers and we're going to fight this. And I'll be

1774
01:37:48,640 --> 01:37:50,240
Speaker 2: honest with you, you know, years down the day if

1775
01:37:50,240 --> 01:37:52,880
Speaker 2: they want to file aallsuit, file a lawsuit. Years down

1776
01:37:52,960 --> 01:37:57,720
Speaker 2: the road, if a judge somehow determines that the hint

1777
01:37:57,760 --> 01:38:00,600
Speaker 2: and family should be paid. Now, I can live with that,

1778
01:38:01,479 --> 01:38:05,120
Speaker 2: but I can't live with the city saying no, we're

1779
01:38:05,160 --> 01:38:07,240
Speaker 2: just going to settle. They should fight this. They should

1780
01:38:07,280 --> 01:38:11,000
Speaker 2: show the Cincinai police officers, especially when you had, you know,

1781
01:38:11,120 --> 01:38:14,840
Speaker 2: a new prosecutor that investigated this, went over all the

1782
01:38:14,880 --> 01:38:18,840
Speaker 2: evidence for weeks, and then determine that the officers did

1783
01:38:18,880 --> 01:38:21,800
Speaker 2: absolutely nothing wrong. They followed their training, they followed the law.

1784
01:38:22,640 --> 01:38:23,479
Speaker 2: That's what're fighting for.

1785
01:38:23,840 --> 01:38:25,000
Speaker 3: You're absolutely right about.

1786
01:38:25,120 --> 01:38:28,479
Speaker 1: She obviously made the right call, and in some cases

1787
01:38:28,840 --> 01:38:31,360
Speaker 1: they'll send it to grand jury and let them decide

1788
01:38:31,680 --> 01:38:33,760
Speaker 1: the grand jury of course, you know, as a tool

1789
01:38:33,800 --> 01:38:37,000
Speaker 1: of a prosecutor. But she made a strong decision and

1790
01:38:38,080 --> 01:38:40,800
Speaker 1: for her and her party it may not have been

1791
01:38:40,920 --> 01:38:44,320
Speaker 1: particularly popular, but she did the right thing. I mean,

1792
01:38:44,720 --> 01:38:47,280
Speaker 1: I think overall, I think she's doing a really good

1793
01:38:47,400 --> 01:38:50,760
Speaker 1: job for whatever my opinion is worth. But she made

1794
01:38:50,800 --> 01:38:52,519
Speaker 1: the right call on this one. It should have been

1795
01:38:52,640 --> 01:38:56,320
Speaker 1: case closed. But you know how that goes in government,

1796
01:38:56,479 --> 01:39:00,840
Speaker 1: especially Cincinnati City Council. What's the feeling among the street

1797
01:39:00,960 --> 01:39:04,160
Speaker 1: cops can about this. I mean, let's just say a

1798
01:39:04,240 --> 01:39:06,760
Speaker 1: new officer on a couple of years or something like that,

1799
01:39:07,280 --> 01:39:09,000
Speaker 1: and they got to be scratching her head too.

1800
01:39:10,560 --> 01:39:10,760
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1801
01:39:10,920 --> 01:39:13,799
Speaker 2: I've had officers not only from the Cincinnati Police Department,

1802
01:39:13,840 --> 01:39:17,680
Speaker 2: but from the Sheriff's Department expressing their support for me

1803
01:39:18,280 --> 01:39:21,160
Speaker 2: to bring this to light, to fight this because they're

1804
01:39:21,479 --> 01:39:24,240
Speaker 2: they're they're beyond just being mad. I mean, they are

1805
01:39:24,840 --> 01:39:29,719
Speaker 2: absolutely just frustrated. I mean they can't believe that something

1806
01:39:29,800 --> 01:39:31,799
Speaker 2: like this would happen. And then the Sincinoni police officers

1807
01:39:31,800 --> 01:39:33,280
Speaker 2: they're saying the same thing, like wa just said, what

1808
01:39:33,479 --> 01:39:36,640
Speaker 2: are we doing? This isn't just this isn't just a

1809
01:39:36,800 --> 01:39:39,840
Speaker 2: criminal that was shot and killed by a police officer.

1810
01:39:40,360 --> 01:39:42,960
Speaker 2: This family the next day went out and viciously murdered

1811
01:39:43,040 --> 01:39:45,160
Speaker 2: a sheriff's deputy that had nothing to do with any

1812
01:39:45,200 --> 01:39:48,439
Speaker 2: of this. So this isn't just about paying somebody that

1813
01:39:48,640 --> 01:39:51,760
Speaker 2: was committing crimes that ended up dying because they made

1814
01:39:51,800 --> 01:39:54,320
Speaker 2: some really really poor choices and put an officer in

1815
01:39:54,400 --> 01:39:56,960
Speaker 2: danger who had to save their own life. It's what

1816
01:39:57,120 --> 01:39:59,760
Speaker 2: happened the next day that makes us even more egregious.

1817
01:40:00,120 --> 01:40:01,439
Speaker 2: And I can tell you there are a lot of

1818
01:40:01,560 --> 01:40:05,000
Speaker 2: officers that are absolutely furious that are paying attention to

1819
01:40:05,040 --> 01:40:07,080
Speaker 2: what's going on. And when we talk about you know,

1820
01:40:07,200 --> 01:40:09,799
Speaker 2: city council and the city administrations, and while we support

1821
01:40:09,840 --> 01:40:12,559
Speaker 2: the police that we've given you guys raises, we've done

1822
01:40:12,640 --> 01:40:15,040
Speaker 2: recruit classes, those are all things that they should be

1823
01:40:15,120 --> 01:40:18,240
Speaker 2: doing anyway. Yep, you're right, about that, but standing up now,

1824
01:40:18,400 --> 01:40:20,559
Speaker 2: standing up now and saying, you know what, if they

1825
01:40:20,640 --> 01:40:22,799
Speaker 2: want to sue a sue us, We're going to defend

1826
01:40:22,880 --> 01:40:26,799
Speaker 2: these officers and we're going to make sure that everything

1827
01:40:26,880 --> 01:40:28,960
Speaker 2: comes out. And at the end of the day it

1828
01:40:29,040 --> 01:40:30,760
Speaker 2: judge goes, I'm dismissing this case.

1829
01:40:30,800 --> 01:40:33,200
Speaker 1: I don't agree with this, you know, And at some

1830
01:40:33,400 --> 01:40:37,599
Speaker 1: point even politicians have to take a stand and make

1831
01:40:37,680 --> 01:40:41,120
Speaker 1: a principal decision. And boy, this is like exhibit A

1832
01:40:41,360 --> 01:40:43,840
Speaker 1: for that. And I guess we'll have to wait and see.

1833
01:40:44,439 --> 01:40:46,920
Speaker 1: I did want to ask you too about Chief Fiji.

1834
01:40:47,479 --> 01:40:50,200
Speaker 1: I guess the story now is the law firm that

1835
01:40:50,320 --> 01:40:52,240
Speaker 1: was hired, which is a good law firm, making no

1836
01:40:52,680 --> 01:40:56,200
Speaker 1: versions on casting those versions on them, said well we

1837
01:40:56,320 --> 01:41:00,519
Speaker 1: couldn't find anything. City council said, well, take about another month,

1838
01:41:00,640 --> 01:41:02,760
Speaker 1: you know, and see what she can do. I mean

1839
01:41:02,880 --> 01:41:05,760
Speaker 1: that's how it appears to me, and I think that's

1840
01:41:05,800 --> 01:41:08,519
Speaker 1: how it appears to the general public too. I mean

1841
01:41:08,640 --> 01:41:09,719
Speaker 1: she's getting screwed.

1842
01:41:11,360 --> 01:41:13,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I understand this isn't This isn't a city

1843
01:41:13,479 --> 01:41:16,760
Speaker 2: council saying take more time. This is my city administration.

1844
01:41:16,880 --> 01:41:19,920
Speaker 2: This is a city manager saying okay, well, We're going

1845
01:41:20,000 --> 01:41:22,240
Speaker 2: to take some more time to think about this. It's

1846
01:41:22,360 --> 01:41:26,880
Speaker 2: it's absolutely insane. I mean, they found nothing. All they

1847
01:41:27,000 --> 01:41:29,320
Speaker 2: found is, oh, there's a couple officers that don't like

1848
01:41:29,400 --> 01:41:32,040
Speaker 2: the chiefs. Well, you know that's been going on as

1849
01:41:32,120 --> 01:41:34,840
Speaker 2: long as police departments have existed. You know, there's some

1850
01:41:34,920 --> 01:41:36,559
Speaker 2: people are going to like the chief, some people are

1851
01:41:36,600 --> 01:41:38,800
Speaker 2: not going to like the chief. The bottom line is

1852
01:41:39,320 --> 01:41:42,240
Speaker 2: there is no just cause to fire her, and now

1853
01:41:42,360 --> 01:41:44,640
Speaker 2: they're in such a predicament that what are they going

1854
01:41:44,720 --> 01:41:44,880
Speaker 2: to do?

1855
01:41:45,479 --> 01:41:45,679
Speaker 3: Yep?

1856
01:41:46,200 --> 01:41:48,840
Speaker 2: The only answer for them to do is to pay

1857
01:41:48,880 --> 01:41:51,600
Speaker 2: her some kind of of retirement package.

1858
01:41:52,800 --> 01:41:53,320
Speaker 3: To retire.

1859
01:41:53,560 --> 01:41:56,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, because anything short of that, there's no scenario where

1860
01:41:56,320 --> 01:41:58,559
Speaker 2: she's going to come back. You know, that's just who

1861
01:41:58,560 --> 01:42:01,519
Speaker 2: would want to work in these toxic canis after you know,

1862
01:42:01,560 --> 01:42:04,559
Speaker 2: they're questioning your effectiveness and all of a sudden they

1863
01:42:04,600 --> 01:42:06,599
Speaker 2: find nothing. How do you come back in and work

1864
01:42:06,640 --> 01:42:07,320
Speaker 2: for these same people?

1865
01:42:07,640 --> 01:42:07,680
Speaker 17: No?

1866
01:42:07,880 --> 01:42:09,760
Speaker 1: I get it, I get you know what, And if

1867
01:42:09,760 --> 01:42:11,960
Speaker 1: there is a settlement, they're going to have to back

1868
01:42:12,080 --> 01:42:15,080
Speaker 1: the Brinks truck up down at City Hall because she's

1869
01:42:15,160 --> 01:42:18,160
Speaker 1: going to tag them butt good. She's got great counsel

1870
01:42:18,240 --> 01:42:20,120
Speaker 1: on it. I mean, I hope and I had her

1871
01:42:20,160 --> 01:42:22,080
Speaker 1: family in here. Was it last week or maybe the

1872
01:42:22,160 --> 01:42:25,479
Speaker 1: weekend before talking about it. She's got a pretty darn

1873
01:42:25,560 --> 01:42:27,840
Speaker 1: good record too, is chief. And some of the things

1874
01:42:27,920 --> 01:42:31,600
Speaker 1: that she's done, it just it makes no sense. It

1875
01:42:31,720 --> 01:42:34,880
Speaker 1: makes the city look stupid, It makes the city look petty.

1876
01:42:35,080 --> 01:42:37,519
Speaker 1: And as you and I have talked a number of times,

1877
01:42:38,000 --> 01:42:42,519
Speaker 1: but for Issue five and taking away civil service protection

1878
01:42:42,680 --> 01:42:45,600
Speaker 1: for the chief and the lieutenant colonels, we wouldn't be

1879
01:42:45,680 --> 01:42:46,720
Speaker 1: having this conversation.

1880
01:42:46,920 --> 01:42:47,439
Speaker 3: I don't think.

1881
01:42:48,560 --> 01:42:50,320
Speaker 2: No, you're right, But if we can give eight point

1882
01:42:50,360 --> 01:42:54,439
Speaker 2: one million dollars to people that were violently protesting in

1883
01:42:54,560 --> 01:42:57,559
Speaker 2: twenty twenty, well, then certainly we can give somebody who

1884
01:42:57,600 --> 01:43:00,640
Speaker 2: has an impeccable record for thirty five years that has

1885
01:43:00,680 --> 01:43:03,320
Speaker 2: been treated wrong. We can certainly make sure that they

1886
01:43:03,360 --> 01:43:05,800
Speaker 2: can live a comfortable retirement. Yep, you would think so.

1887
01:43:06,720 --> 01:43:08,680
Speaker 2: You know, I was talking to somebody this week. I

1888
01:43:08,760 --> 01:43:11,320
Speaker 2: forget who it was, about being a police officer and

1889
01:43:11,439 --> 01:43:14,760
Speaker 2: recruitment and things like that. Today, I think ken and

1890
01:43:14,880 --> 01:43:16,920
Speaker 2: you correct me if I'm wrong. Last time we talked,

1891
01:43:17,840 --> 01:43:20,280
Speaker 2: I think you said that they had openings the city

1892
01:43:20,360 --> 01:43:22,920
Speaker 2: did have money for I don't know it was a

1893
01:43:23,040 --> 01:43:25,960
Speaker 2: class of thirty or something like that, and they couldn't

1894
01:43:26,200 --> 01:43:30,519
Speaker 2: fill that class, which just was mind boggling compared to

1895
01:43:30,600 --> 01:43:33,720
Speaker 2: how it used to be. Was the city able to

1896
01:43:33,800 --> 01:43:36,960
Speaker 2: find these police officers so they can put that class on?

1897
01:43:38,240 --> 01:43:38,280
Speaker 11: No?

1898
01:43:38,439 --> 01:43:41,920
Speaker 2: So, is this lateral class that they financed for thirty

1899
01:43:42,000 --> 01:43:44,240
Speaker 2: officers is going to start here at the end of

1900
01:43:44,280 --> 01:43:46,240
Speaker 2: the month. Oh good with seven officers?

1901
01:43:46,680 --> 01:43:46,720
Speaker 4: What?

1902
01:43:47,560 --> 01:43:48,080
Speaker 2: Oh man?

1903
01:43:48,160 --> 01:43:49,679
Speaker 3: I thought you were going to say the full compliment.

1904
01:43:49,960 --> 01:43:53,640
Speaker 3: That is just the bizarro world for somebody who's as

1905
01:43:53,680 --> 01:43:56,200
Speaker 3: old as me, And you're not as old as me

1906
01:43:56,320 --> 01:43:58,400
Speaker 3: by any stretch, but I'm sure you remember it too.

1907
01:43:58,840 --> 01:44:02,000
Speaker 1: That damn convention center was backed to the gills. There

1908
01:44:02,040 --> 01:44:04,360
Speaker 1: are a couple thousand people there that wanted.

1909
01:44:04,120 --> 01:44:04,719
Speaker 3: To be cops.

1910
01:44:05,720 --> 01:44:07,679
Speaker 2: You know, when I took the test in early two thousands,

1911
01:44:07,960 --> 01:44:10,160
Speaker 2: there were about four thousand people that took the test,

1912
01:44:11,080 --> 01:44:14,800
Speaker 2: and out of the four thousand, they chiseled that down

1913
01:44:14,880 --> 01:44:18,240
Speaker 2: to a list of approximately one hundred officers. Out of

1914
01:44:18,320 --> 01:44:21,320
Speaker 2: four thousand, that's what they hired, one hundred. They had

1915
01:44:21,360 --> 01:44:24,679
Speaker 2: two classes of roughly fifty, and then they had another

1916
01:44:24,760 --> 01:44:27,519
Speaker 2: test the following year where they had another three or

1917
01:44:27,560 --> 01:44:29,680
Speaker 2: four thousand people take the test. And now if we

1918
01:44:29,760 --> 01:44:32,320
Speaker 2: can get four or five hundred people to take a test,

1919
01:44:32,400 --> 01:44:32,840
Speaker 2: we're lucky.

1920
01:44:33,000 --> 01:44:34,599
Speaker 3: And that's just sad.

1921
01:44:34,840 --> 01:44:38,879
Speaker 1: I mean, obviously it's an honorable profession and it shouldn't

1922
01:44:38,880 --> 01:44:39,320
Speaker 1: be that way.

1923
01:44:39,360 --> 01:44:41,479
Speaker 3: But you know what, I don't blame young people at all.

1924
01:44:41,600 --> 01:44:45,920
Speaker 1: I mean, my goodness, look at the situation in Minneapolis,

1925
01:44:46,160 --> 01:44:47,639
Speaker 1: and I wanted to ask you. If you don't want

1926
01:44:47,680 --> 01:44:49,880
Speaker 1: to talk about this, I get it, but I wanted

1927
01:44:49,880 --> 01:44:52,280
Speaker 1: to ask you your thoughts on what went on out

1928
01:44:52,320 --> 01:44:56,320
Speaker 1: there this week and the decision with respect to the

1929
01:44:56,560 --> 01:45:03,600
Speaker 1: ice officer using deadly force. Uh A damn suv is

1930
01:45:03,640 --> 01:45:05,840
Speaker 1: headed right at you. Do you have any thoughts on

1931
01:45:05,960 --> 01:45:07,360
Speaker 1: that at all that you'd like to share?

1932
01:45:08,560 --> 01:45:08,640
Speaker 17: Well?

1933
01:45:08,680 --> 01:45:10,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's clear that now that more of

1934
01:45:10,560 --> 01:45:13,120
Speaker 2: these videos are coming out, that this officer was struck

1935
01:45:13,160 --> 01:45:16,280
Speaker 2: by this vehicle. You know, should that officer have been

1936
01:45:16,360 --> 01:45:17,960
Speaker 2: in front of the vehicle if you watch the video,

1937
01:45:17,960 --> 01:45:20,000
Speaker 2: at least some of the videos that I've seen, you know,

1938
01:45:20,120 --> 01:45:22,200
Speaker 2: he was going around the vehicle, looking at it, looking

1939
01:45:22,240 --> 01:45:24,519
Speaker 2: at the license plate, some of these things. I don't

1940
01:45:24,520 --> 01:45:27,000
Speaker 2: think he'd believed for a second that this person was

1941
01:45:27,080 --> 01:45:27,880
Speaker 2: just going to take off.

1942
01:45:28,080 --> 01:45:28,280
Speaker 3: Yep.

1943
01:45:28,640 --> 01:45:31,560
Speaker 2: You know there's certain situations where, of course you have

1944
01:45:31,680 --> 01:45:34,080
Speaker 2: to be mindful of somebody that's in a vehicle, but

1945
01:45:34,200 --> 01:45:37,680
Speaker 2: the vehicles parked, And I don't I don't believe in

1946
01:45:37,840 --> 01:45:40,599
Speaker 2: Like I said, I can't possibly know what was going

1947
01:45:40,680 --> 01:45:43,559
Speaker 2: through this officer's mind. But you know, one would assume, Okay,

1948
01:45:43,560 --> 01:45:45,800
Speaker 2: at the vehicle's park I'm walking around it, you know,

1949
01:45:46,640 --> 01:45:47,800
Speaker 2: I do I want to stay in front of it.

1950
01:45:47,920 --> 01:45:50,439
Speaker 2: He was clearly moving. Wasn't like he was just standing

1951
01:45:50,479 --> 01:45:52,280
Speaker 2: in front of it, putting his hand up like you

1952
01:45:52,320 --> 01:45:57,000
Speaker 2: should stop right, you know, But police thing, it is difficult.

1953
01:45:57,479 --> 01:46:00,800
Speaker 2: You know, things happened in a split second and before

1954
01:46:00,840 --> 01:46:02,519
Speaker 2: you know it, you have a vehicle coming at you

1955
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Speaker 2: and you're trying to get the heck out of the

1956
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Speaker 2: way exactly. So this officer did what he thought he

1957
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Speaker 2: had to do to save his own life. That's what

1958
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Speaker 2: he did. So we'll see what the interviews say. But ultimately,

1959
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Speaker 2: you know, these officers, they have a right to protect themselves,

1960
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Speaker 2: especially when you have a vehicle coming at you. Yeah,

1961
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Speaker 2: the Supreme Court has said this time after time. If

1962
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Speaker 2: you just look at the officer from Blendon Township that

1963
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Speaker 2: was just on trial for murder up in Franklin, County

1964
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Speaker 2: that was just acquitted by a jury for a very

1965
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Speaker 2: very similar circumstance. So clearly that jury said, no, we're

1966
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Speaker 2: falling the law. This officer fall the law. I don't

1967
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Speaker 2: see that this is any different.

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Speaker 3: I don't either.

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Speaker 1: And we talked earlier in the show with a caller

1970
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Speaker 1: about Graham versus Connor, which I'm sure you know is

1971
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Speaker 1: the Supreme Court case that says, among other things, that

1972
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Speaker 1: in judging these things, you have to put yourself in

1973
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Speaker 1: the position of that officer at the exact moment and

1974
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Speaker 1: before the death happened. You can't substitute your opinion for

1975
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Speaker 1: what he or she should have done. I mean, I

1976
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Speaker 1: can't imagine being in a split second thing like that,

1977
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Speaker 1: where you know, I'll wait a minute, what do I

1978
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Speaker 1: do while the car runs over you? But I want

1979
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Speaker 1: to ask you one more question. I'm just curious about this.

1980
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Speaker 1: Take Minnesota. You got Ice there aggressively but appropriately doing

1981
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Speaker 1: their job. Then you have the Minneapolis police who are,

1982
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Speaker 1: from what I can see, working against Ice, and they

1983
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Speaker 1: were interviewing the cheap the other day, and you know,

1984
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Speaker 1: I'm just thinking.

1985
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Speaker 3: These are cops. Cops stick up for each other, cops

1986
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Speaker 3: cover over for each other.

1987
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Speaker 1: Does that put those local police officers beat cops in

1988
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Speaker 1: Minneapolis in a bad place?

1989
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Speaker 3: I would think that it would.

1990
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Speaker 2: Well, sure it does, because you have what your oath says,

1991
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Speaker 2: what you swore to do, right, do you swore to

1992
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Speaker 2: protect the constitution? You swore to enforce laws, and then

1993
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Speaker 2: now you have politicians saying, well, I don't like this law,

1994
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Speaker 2: so I don't want you to enforce it. The answer is,

1995
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Speaker 2: if they don't like these laws, why don't they go

1996
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Speaker 2: petition these lawmakers and change the law. That's how it's

1997
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Speaker 2: done in a civilized society. It's not no, well we're

1998
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Speaker 2: not going to enforce this law because we don't like it.

1999
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Speaker 2: We don't get that. We don't get that opportunity. We

2000
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Speaker 2: don't get to be able to say I don't like

2001
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Speaker 2: this law, I'm not going to enforce it. That is

2002
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Speaker 2: absolutely wrong thing to do. They should be going to Washington, DC,

2003
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Speaker 2: on Capitol Hill and telling these lawmakers we don't like this,

2004
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Speaker 2: we don't like what's going on, we don't like these laws.

2005
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Speaker 2: We demand you change them. That's how things are done

2006
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Speaker 2: in a civilized society. Yeah, and it's the way it

2007
01:48:38,760 --> 01:48:40,360
Speaker 2: used to be done in this country. Too.

2008
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Speaker 1: I mean, what do you think about the street cop,

2009
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Speaker 1: you know, getting directions from on high Hey, you can't

2010
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Speaker 1: cooperate with ICE blah blah blah. And police officers being

2011
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Speaker 1: who they are and what they are, they want to

2012
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Speaker 1: cover over for their fellow officers. But they're in a

2013
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Speaker 1: really difficult position.

2014
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Speaker 2: I guess well they are. But you know, thankfully, especially

2015
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Speaker 2: something like that here happened in Cincinnati, you have a

2016
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Speaker 2: collective bargaining agreement, you have the FOP that is going

2017
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Speaker 2: to stand up for you when you do the right thing,

2018
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Speaker 2: and it's just it's a shame that these things are

2019
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Speaker 2: even going on. And this is you know, we went

2020
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Speaker 2: through this earlier in twenty twenty five where Mayor Pureval

2021
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Speaker 2: came out and said, yeah, we're not helping ICE, and

2022
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Speaker 2: I immediately put out a press relief saying, oh, yes

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Speaker 2: we will, we absolutely will, because we're sworn to do this.

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Speaker 3: Yeh.

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Speaker 2: And thankfully I will say. Mayor Pureval said, listen, if

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Speaker 2: they're doing it within the confines of the wall, I

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Speaker 2: get it. These officers should be doing these things. It's

2028
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Speaker 2: not like we're not going out looking for you undocumented

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Speaker 2: people that are that aren't here that's just we have many,

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Speaker 2: many other things to be doing, and that's not the

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Speaker 2: mission of local law enforcement. However, if a federal agency

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Speaker 2: comes and says, hey, we need help, you best believe

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Speaker 2: ever since a police officer's work, and if they hear

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Speaker 2: a call for help, they're going to go there. You

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Speaker 2: get how it is.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that doesn't surprise me. I just wish it was

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Speaker 3: that way throughout the country.

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Speaker 1: But hey, I really appreciate this, Ken, and I'm going

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Speaker 1: to be watching this closely to see what happens with

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Speaker 1: this whole situation with the settlement, and we'll talk again.

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Speaker 16: Sure sounds good, Mike, thanks for having Okay, thank you.

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Speaker 1: All right, that was FOP President Ken Kober. Well, I'll

2043
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Speaker 1: tell you what he is, really a good FOP president.

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Speaker 1: He has the needs of his officers, puts it first

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Speaker 1: and that sort of good FOP president has to do.

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Speaker 1: CPD is lucky to have him. All Right, Well, that's

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Speaker 1: it for me. I will be I think I'm in

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Speaker 1: for Sloany on Tuesday this week, but of course i'll

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Speaker 1: be back next Saturday for Saturday Midday.

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Speaker 3: Mike Allen seven hundred WLW