1 00:00:12,440 --> 00:00:14,960 Speaker 1: This is coming to us, so. 2 00:00:20,520 --> 00:00:23,799 Speaker 2: Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to Safe Money Strategies on WRKO. 3 00:00:24,280 --> 00:00:26,600 Speaker 2: I'm William Kelly and it's an honor to carry on 4 00:00:26,640 --> 00:00:30,479 Speaker 2: a family legacy rooted in real world values and practical advice. 5 00:00:31,200 --> 00:00:33,639 Speaker 2: Kelly Financial was founded in two thousand and three by 6 00:00:33,680 --> 00:00:36,200 Speaker 2: my parents, my late father Bill Kelly and my mother 7 00:00:36,400 --> 00:00:41,080 Speaker 2: Kelly Kelly and Braintree and Burlington, Massachusetts. Just two years later, 8 00:00:41,200 --> 00:00:44,280 Speaker 2: Dad launched Safe Money Strategies on WRKO as a no 9 00:00:44,280 --> 00:00:47,959 Speaker 2: nonsense callin radio show focused on common sense planning and 10 00:00:48,040 --> 00:00:51,640 Speaker 2: protecting wealth. Over the past two decades, Dad became a 11 00:00:51,680 --> 00:00:55,320 Speaker 2: pillar in New England finance, an engineer, turn entrepreneur, author 12 00:00:55,480 --> 00:00:58,760 Speaker 2: and philanthropist who believed in giving back and walking the talk. 13 00:00:59,160 --> 00:01:03,240 Speaker 2: Since our show has remained a Saturday morning staple, offering 14 00:01:03,320 --> 00:01:07,199 Speaker 2: insight and empowerment. Here at Kelly Financial, we help steward 15 00:01:07,240 --> 00:01:11,280 Speaker 2: over eight hundred million dollars across our affiliated business, including 16 00:01:11,319 --> 00:01:14,160 Speaker 2: more than six hundred million dollars managed by our sec 17 00:01:14,319 --> 00:01:18,280 Speaker 2: registered investment advisory, where fiduciary care and our family first 18 00:01:18,319 --> 00:01:22,279 Speaker 2: philosophy guides us on safe money strategies. You'll hear candid 19 00:01:22,360 --> 00:01:27,200 Speaker 2: conversations with the team, my mother Kelly, myself, advisors Charlie Gable, 20 00:01:27,480 --> 00:01:31,759 Speaker 2: Mike Ducett, Greg Workman, Greg Murray, my sister Mary Madeline, 21 00:01:31,760 --> 00:01:35,360 Speaker 2: and Tom Schlager. We live by two rules, never quit 22 00:01:35,560 --> 00:01:37,720 Speaker 2: and carry on, and we're here to help you do 23 00:01:37,760 --> 00:01:40,280 Speaker 2: the same when it comes to your money. Stick around, 24 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:43,399 Speaker 2: take notes and join the conversation. To learn more or 25 00:01:43,440 --> 00:01:47,319 Speaker 2: get our free guides or schedule consultation, visit Kelly Financial 26 00:01:47,360 --> 00:01:49,840 Speaker 2: dot org or call us at eighty eight eight eight 27 00:01:49,920 --> 00:01:53,240 Speaker 2: hundred one eight eight one. This is Safe Money Strategies. 28 00:01:53,600 --> 00:01:57,160 Speaker 2: Next up Forever Young with Kelly Kelly and myself William 29 00:01:57,240 --> 00:01:57,840 Speaker 2: Kelly Junior. 30 00:02:02,160 --> 00:02:07,160 Speaker 3: Safe Money Strategies with William Kelly and Kelly Kelly eight 31 00:02:07,680 --> 00:02:11,680 Speaker 3: hundred eighteen eighty one. 32 00:02:13,560 --> 00:02:16,919 Speaker 4: Each week on Safe Money Strategies, we take a moment 33 00:02:16,960 --> 00:02:20,000 Speaker 4: to step back from the headlines and have a real conversation, 34 00:02:20,600 --> 00:02:23,519 Speaker 4: the kind you might have around the kitchen table. This 35 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:25,800 Speaker 4: is a part of the show we call Forever Young. 36 00:02:26,040 --> 00:02:29,240 Speaker 4: It's where I sit down with my son William Kelly Junior, 37 00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:32,880 Speaker 4: and we talk about life, what's going on in the world, 38 00:02:33,280 --> 00:02:36,240 Speaker 4: in our family, and what really matters most when you're 39 00:02:36,280 --> 00:02:40,520 Speaker 4: planning for the future sometimes is light, sometimes as thoughtful, 40 00:02:40,720 --> 00:02:41,880 Speaker 4: but it's always real. 41 00:02:42,360 --> 00:02:44,520 Speaker 5: Good morning William, Good morning Mom. 42 00:02:44,560 --> 00:02:45,000 Speaker 6: How are you. 43 00:02:45,120 --> 00:02:47,120 Speaker 5: I'm doing great. How about yourself? 44 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:48,120 Speaker 6: I'm fine as well. 45 00:02:48,320 --> 00:02:51,079 Speaker 2: Obviously, there have been some very unfortunate events lately happening 46 00:02:51,120 --> 00:02:53,160 Speaker 2: in Rhode Island. There have been two shootings, and we 47 00:02:53,200 --> 00:02:55,440 Speaker 2: want to start the show off by saying our thoughts 48 00:02:55,520 --> 00:02:58,440 Speaker 2: and prayers go to those families affected. Yes, in the 49 00:02:58,480 --> 00:03:02,200 Speaker 2: hockey rink where the shooting high there is this very 50 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:05,160 Speaker 2: brave father who went out of his way to go 51 00:03:05,200 --> 00:03:08,400 Speaker 2: and tackle the gunman and saved a lot more lives 52 00:03:08,480 --> 00:03:11,400 Speaker 2: by doing that. So I want to give some recognition 53 00:03:11,440 --> 00:03:14,560 Speaker 2: to him and that we really appreciate you and you're 54 00:03:14,600 --> 00:03:17,680 Speaker 2: a hero in Rhode Island. Yeah, so thank you very much. 55 00:03:17,919 --> 00:03:21,480 Speaker 2: Other than that, on a more positive side of the news, lately, 56 00:03:21,560 --> 00:03:22,680 Speaker 2: we had ash Wednesday. 57 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:24,320 Speaker 6: If you're a Catholic, that's a big deal. 58 00:03:24,760 --> 00:03:28,040 Speaker 2: Lent has begun and we're going to talk a little 59 00:03:28,040 --> 00:03:30,480 Speaker 2: bit about what we're giving up for lent. So I'll 60 00:03:30,480 --> 00:03:33,839 Speaker 2: start off. I am giving up junk food. I'm sure 61 00:03:33,880 --> 00:03:36,560 Speaker 2: many of you remember in college junk food was everywhere, 62 00:03:37,120 --> 00:03:41,440 Speaker 2: and today it has its place, is not moved at all, 63 00:03:41,480 --> 00:03:45,000 Speaker 2: it's still very present and everywhere. Oh of course. I 64 00:03:45,080 --> 00:03:47,320 Speaker 2: mean it's college every year, you know what I mean. 65 00:03:48,120 --> 00:03:50,240 Speaker 2: So I want to give that up for lent. I 66 00:03:50,240 --> 00:03:52,240 Speaker 2: think that's a good thing to give up. I think 67 00:03:52,240 --> 00:03:54,960 Speaker 2: that it's fair. I think it's going to be challenging 68 00:03:54,960 --> 00:03:57,920 Speaker 2: and it's definitely a comfort, so I think it's worth it. 69 00:03:57,960 --> 00:04:01,080 Speaker 2: And I think it also makes me healthier, absolutely, so 70 00:04:01,160 --> 00:04:01,720 Speaker 2: it's worth it. 71 00:04:01,720 --> 00:04:03,720 Speaker 6: So I'm giving up junk food for life. 72 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:04,360 Speaker 5: Good. 73 00:04:04,760 --> 00:04:06,840 Speaker 2: Well, you're giving up is a little more unique. I 74 00:04:06,880 --> 00:04:08,760 Speaker 2: think you should tell the audience a little bit about it. 75 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:11,120 Speaker 5: I'm giving up comfort. 76 00:04:11,720 --> 00:04:14,160 Speaker 6: Really, Yes, we want to elaborate a little bit. 77 00:04:14,360 --> 00:04:18,400 Speaker 4: Well, I do not like heart exercise. 78 00:04:18,839 --> 00:04:24,000 Speaker 5: I love swimming, and for me, that is not heart exercise. 79 00:04:24,440 --> 00:04:28,400 Speaker 4: I mean you have to have endurance, you have to 80 00:04:28,640 --> 00:04:33,320 Speaker 4: have patience, and is not easy, but it's something that 81 00:04:33,400 --> 00:04:36,200 Speaker 4: I'm sort of programmed to do, so I can do 82 00:04:36,279 --> 00:04:37,280 Speaker 4: it for at least an. 83 00:04:37,240 --> 00:04:40,279 Speaker 5: Hour to two hours, you know, straight. 84 00:04:40,839 --> 00:04:43,880 Speaker 4: But the problem is is our pool is not open 85 00:04:43,960 --> 00:04:48,000 Speaker 4: year round, so you know, I feel like where I 86 00:04:48,040 --> 00:04:51,120 Speaker 4: take a dive is during the winter months and I'm 87 00:04:51,120 --> 00:04:53,000 Speaker 4: not exercising the way I should. 88 00:04:53,600 --> 00:04:55,080 Speaker 5: However, I've started a. 89 00:04:55,000 --> 00:04:59,520 Speaker 4: Program because of you, William and those of you are 90 00:04:59,520 --> 00:05:02,360 Speaker 4: who are listening, if you've been following us along. You know, 91 00:05:02,520 --> 00:05:06,560 Speaker 4: William gave me a package for Christmas and words with 92 00:05:06,600 --> 00:05:08,760 Speaker 4: a trainer that it knows very well. 93 00:05:08,960 --> 00:05:10,880 Speaker 5: She was actually his pre K teacher. 94 00:05:10,960 --> 00:05:12,000 Speaker 6: Oh I know pretty well. 95 00:05:12,120 --> 00:05:16,760 Speaker 4: Yes, yes, So he gave me this package and I 96 00:05:16,920 --> 00:05:21,760 Speaker 4: started it and I've extended it, and it is one 97 00:05:21,760 --> 00:05:24,480 Speaker 4: of the hardest things I've ever done. Like it is 98 00:05:24,680 --> 00:05:28,479 Speaker 4: pure the only way to say it. Yes, I was 99 00:05:28,480 --> 00:05:32,440 Speaker 4: about to say, h double hockey sticks, but boy that 100 00:05:32,920 --> 00:05:38,279 Speaker 4: it is torture for the full hour and then I 101 00:05:38,400 --> 00:05:41,920 Speaker 4: pay for it the next day or two. But I'm 102 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:46,640 Speaker 4: learning I wasn't drinking enough water and you know afterwards, 103 00:05:46,720 --> 00:05:51,440 Speaker 4: and you know, so I'm learning different little tips to help. 104 00:05:51,480 --> 00:05:53,839 Speaker 5: But I am going. 105 00:05:53,640 --> 00:05:59,360 Speaker 4: To start training in between the two days I work 106 00:05:59,440 --> 00:06:02,400 Speaker 4: with her a week, you know, with cardio. 107 00:06:02,760 --> 00:06:05,120 Speaker 2: So you're going to do cardio on top of that. Yes, 108 00:06:05,240 --> 00:06:07,480 Speaker 2: So you're giving up comfort for lent. You're making yourself 109 00:06:07,520 --> 00:06:10,120 Speaker 2: a better and stronger person. Yeah, I will say from experienced, 110 00:06:10,120 --> 00:06:12,119 Speaker 2: mommy gets easier. But it takes weeks. 111 00:06:12,240 --> 00:06:13,960 Speaker 5: I know, it's just been a long time. 112 00:06:14,200 --> 00:06:16,120 Speaker 2: I know, I know it's been and I feel like. 113 00:06:16,120 --> 00:06:19,560 Speaker 4: The older you get, your muscles are I mean, my 114 00:06:19,680 --> 00:06:25,279 Speaker 4: muscles have been freaking out. I know you told me 115 00:06:25,360 --> 00:06:27,760 Speaker 4: this is the point where most people quit. I'm not 116 00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:30,560 Speaker 4: quitting because you know, you. 117 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:33,560 Speaker 5: Were my why. You were my main why, William, and 118 00:06:33,600 --> 00:06:34,799 Speaker 5: I can't let you down. 119 00:06:35,400 --> 00:06:36,359 Speaker 6: What about Mary Madeline? 120 00:06:36,480 --> 00:06:38,839 Speaker 4: Of course Mary Madeline as well, but you are the 121 00:06:38,839 --> 00:06:40,520 Speaker 4: one that pushed it so hard. 122 00:06:41,880 --> 00:06:44,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, because I see the benefit. Yes, I see folks 123 00:06:44,360 --> 00:06:47,000 Speaker 2: who go in there. And you know, my preschool teacher 124 00:06:47,040 --> 00:06:50,440 Speaker 2: is a prime example of this. She was extremely heavy, 125 00:06:50,480 --> 00:06:53,920 Speaker 2: extremely overweight, extremely unhealthy, and her sons came up to 126 00:06:53,960 --> 00:06:58,159 Speaker 2: her and just told her straight up, you're dying every day. 127 00:06:58,279 --> 00:07:01,400 Speaker 2: Her son, she was harder to convince than you. 128 00:07:02,040 --> 00:07:02,919 Speaker 6: All I had to do was. 129 00:07:02,920 --> 00:07:05,160 Speaker 2: Give you a pep talk and buy the package for you, 130 00:07:05,240 --> 00:07:08,920 Speaker 2: and you committed to it. It took her forever, and 131 00:07:09,560 --> 00:07:12,360 Speaker 2: her sons, you know her, one of her sons in particular, 132 00:07:13,200 --> 00:07:17,280 Speaker 2: just every day would just say you're dying, every single 133 00:07:17,400 --> 00:07:20,160 Speaker 2: day until she stepped into the gym. And he said, 134 00:07:20,160 --> 00:07:22,880 Speaker 2: all right, just stepped into the gym one day, just 135 00:07:22,920 --> 00:07:25,120 Speaker 2: fill up your water bottle, just start coming to the gym. 136 00:07:25,520 --> 00:07:28,240 Speaker 2: And when she started She wasn't even allowed to use 137 00:07:28,240 --> 00:07:30,160 Speaker 2: the barbell. She wasn't even allowed to use a barb beell. 138 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:33,600 Speaker 2: Her sons made her use a broomstick to learn form first, 139 00:07:33,960 --> 00:07:36,120 Speaker 2: because that's how out of shape she was. Think about that, 140 00:07:36,880 --> 00:07:41,600 Speaker 2: and so she started literally from the ground up. And 141 00:07:41,680 --> 00:07:44,200 Speaker 2: if you look at her today, and I swear by this, 142 00:07:44,440 --> 00:07:48,120 Speaker 2: she looks younger, healthier, and better than when I. 143 00:07:48,120 --> 00:07:50,280 Speaker 5: Knew her as my preschool she is amazing. 144 00:07:50,480 --> 00:07:51,240 Speaker 6: She is amazing. 145 00:07:51,280 --> 00:07:52,840 Speaker 5: She is amazing. 146 00:07:53,080 --> 00:07:55,240 Speaker 6: I will say that of the pudding. 147 00:07:55,120 --> 00:07:57,440 Speaker 4: But she I wish she had started me off with 148 00:07:57,520 --> 00:07:58,320 Speaker 4: a broomstick. 149 00:07:59,240 --> 00:08:01,400 Speaker 5: She didn't start me off with a broomstick. 150 00:08:01,520 --> 00:08:03,360 Speaker 6: Well, she was at a much lower level when she 151 00:08:03,400 --> 00:08:03,920 Speaker 6: started out. 152 00:08:03,960 --> 00:08:06,560 Speaker 2: So but the reason I'm mentioning that is because you're 153 00:08:06,560 --> 00:08:09,080 Speaker 2: not at a lower level. You're not at a lower 154 00:08:09,160 --> 00:08:13,840 Speaker 2: level than she was when she started. You're not unhealthier. 155 00:08:13,880 --> 00:08:16,679 Speaker 2: Blood work is great. Yeah, you have a really great story. 156 00:08:16,720 --> 00:08:19,720 Speaker 5: I eat very clean. I've been eating clean for a 157 00:08:19,800 --> 00:08:20,480 Speaker 5: good while. 158 00:08:21,200 --> 00:08:24,880 Speaker 4: My problem has been the consistent exercise right in the past, 159 00:08:25,160 --> 00:08:26,600 Speaker 4: mainly during winter months. 160 00:08:26,640 --> 00:08:28,360 Speaker 6: Well, this will make it worth your while. 161 00:08:28,680 --> 00:08:30,640 Speaker 2: All the clean eating and everything and ease have an 162 00:08:30,640 --> 00:08:32,679 Speaker 2: output of some kind, and your body's going to get 163 00:08:32,760 --> 00:08:35,480 Speaker 2: much healthier. And if you have more muscle mass, you 164 00:08:35,520 --> 00:08:38,840 Speaker 2: can fight disease better. If you got cancer, your likelihood 165 00:08:38,840 --> 00:08:42,319 Speaker 2: of surviving cancer goes up. The biggest predictor of survival 166 00:08:42,800 --> 00:08:46,600 Speaker 2: and cancer is muscle mass, lean muscle mass, So if 167 00:08:46,600 --> 00:08:49,080 Speaker 2: you have a lot of muscle, you're protecting yourself in 168 00:08:49,160 --> 00:08:52,199 Speaker 2: a lot of ways than just being a strong person 169 00:08:52,360 --> 00:08:56,520 Speaker 2: with a lot of muscle. So it's really it's incredible 170 00:08:56,559 --> 00:08:58,960 Speaker 2: what exercise can do. But everything else has to be 171 00:08:59,040 --> 00:09:01,400 Speaker 2: right though, ladies and jol And it's not just you 172 00:09:01,520 --> 00:09:04,680 Speaker 2: exercise and everything's great, and you have to do strength training, 173 00:09:04,880 --> 00:09:06,959 Speaker 2: and you have to eat right because if you don't 174 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:09,880 Speaker 2: eat right, you do not build muscle. So if you 175 00:09:09,960 --> 00:09:12,480 Speaker 2: don't eat a gram of protein for pound to body weight, 176 00:09:13,240 --> 00:09:14,880 Speaker 2: So if you weigh two hundred pounds, you got to 177 00:09:14,880 --> 00:09:16,680 Speaker 2: eat two hundred to two hundred and twenty grams of 178 00:09:16,679 --> 00:09:20,160 Speaker 2: protein right, And if you don't have good nutrition, you're 179 00:09:20,200 --> 00:09:21,600 Speaker 2: also sabotaging yourself. 180 00:09:21,640 --> 00:09:23,280 Speaker 6: So then you're just exhausted in your body is. 181 00:09:23,280 --> 00:09:26,959 Speaker 2: Not repairing it so so and same with hydration as well. 182 00:09:27,040 --> 00:09:30,120 Speaker 2: It keeps your joints hydrated, it keeps your ten hydrated, 183 00:09:30,160 --> 00:09:31,400 Speaker 2: your muscles are. 184 00:09:31,280 --> 00:09:32,280 Speaker 6: Able to store water. 185 00:09:32,600 --> 00:09:36,120 Speaker 2: If you're not hydrated, you're also sabotaging yourself as well. 186 00:09:36,440 --> 00:09:39,880 Speaker 2: So it's not just exercise, but it's the other habits 187 00:09:39,880 --> 00:09:41,640 Speaker 2: as well, and they all work in unison and. 188 00:09:41,600 --> 00:09:42,640 Speaker 6: They make a healthy body. 189 00:09:43,080 --> 00:09:45,000 Speaker 2: And I know it's an uncomfortable topic and a lot 190 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:47,160 Speaker 2: of people feel like they're stuck. But you're never stuck, 191 00:09:47,200 --> 00:09:48,680 Speaker 2: even though it might seem like it. You have a 192 00:09:48,679 --> 00:09:51,120 Speaker 2: lot more control than you think, and there are ways 193 00:09:51,120 --> 00:09:54,199 Speaker 2: around it, and there are resources online and in person 194 00:09:54,200 --> 00:09:56,840 Speaker 2: that can help you. So for Lent, if you're looking 195 00:09:56,840 --> 00:10:00,680 Speaker 2: for something to do exercise, giving up comfort, that's really good. 196 00:10:00,720 --> 00:10:02,360 Speaker 6: I'm sure Christ of be in favor of that. 197 00:10:02,559 --> 00:10:04,400 Speaker 2: I think so, because you're giving something up and you're 198 00:10:04,440 --> 00:10:07,319 Speaker 2: also helping yourself at the same time. So that's Lent 199 00:10:07,559 --> 00:10:09,720 Speaker 2: and that is pretty much a wrap on the week, 200 00:10:09,880 --> 00:10:12,600 Speaker 2: I think again, Prayer it out to those families and 201 00:10:12,600 --> 00:10:15,720 Speaker 2: those shootings. Again, I don't want to turn this dark, 202 00:10:15,920 --> 00:10:18,040 Speaker 2: but I mean, how can you avoid it. It's affected 203 00:10:18,080 --> 00:10:21,280 Speaker 2: our community and again the father who saved extra lives 204 00:10:21,280 --> 00:10:23,400 Speaker 2: that day. You are a hero and the people of 205 00:10:23,440 --> 00:10:25,840 Speaker 2: Rhode Island have the most respect for you. Thank you 206 00:10:25,920 --> 00:10:30,000 Speaker 2: so much for what you've done. I know God bless absolutely. 207 00:10:29,760 --> 00:10:31,120 Speaker 5: Do keep us on your dial. 208 00:10:31,240 --> 00:10:33,640 Speaker 4: We've got a lot of great content coming your way, 209 00:10:33,800 --> 00:10:37,360 Speaker 4: Mike you said, and Greg Workman, we'll explain why in 210 00:10:37,440 --> 00:10:40,920 Speaker 4: retirement is not just what you have, is the order 211 00:10:41,040 --> 00:10:44,440 Speaker 4: you use it that can shape your tanks, picture and 212 00:10:44,520 --> 00:10:48,680 Speaker 4: long term confidence. Mary, Madeline Kelly and Greg Murray will 213 00:10:48,720 --> 00:10:52,960 Speaker 4: explain why retirement planning is more complex today than it 214 00:10:53,200 --> 00:10:58,200 Speaker 4: was for previous generations, and how thoughtful preparation, organization, and 215 00:10:58,320 --> 00:11:02,520 Speaker 4: guidance can help bring clarity and confidence in a changing 216 00:11:02,600 --> 00:11:06,440 Speaker 4: financial landscape. When William and I return, we'll be having 217 00:11:06,480 --> 00:11:10,800 Speaker 4: a conversation on how investing evolves through life stages and 218 00:11:10,840 --> 00:11:15,800 Speaker 4: why structure, tax awareness, and consistency matters just as much 219 00:11:15,840 --> 00:11:19,040 Speaker 4: as starting early. And of course we'll close the hour 220 00:11:19,200 --> 00:11:21,920 Speaker 4: with some wit and wisdom from the late Bill Kelly. 221 00:11:22,360 --> 00:11:26,440 Speaker 4: His words continue to inspire and guide us. That's a 222 00:11:26,480 --> 00:11:30,000 Speaker 4: wrap for forever, young Thank you for listening, and William, 223 00:11:30,120 --> 00:11:31,240 Speaker 4: thank you for joining me. 224 00:11:31,400 --> 00:11:33,440 Speaker 5: We'll be back with more great content. 225 00:11:33,840 --> 00:11:35,560 Speaker 2: I love you, honey, Hello too. 226 00:11:43,960 --> 00:11:46,200 Speaker 5: Okay, my friends, let's be honest. 227 00:11:46,280 --> 00:11:49,040 Speaker 1: Most young people don't get real financial advice. 228 00:11:49,120 --> 00:11:50,679 Speaker 5: They get high social. 229 00:11:50,320 --> 00:11:53,920 Speaker 1: Media quote unquote experts and a lot of bad advice. 230 00:11:54,600 --> 00:11:59,200 Speaker 1: Only the Good invest Young, written by William Kelly Junior 231 00:11:59,240 --> 00:12:03,880 Speaker 1: from Kelly Findinancial Services, takes a different approach. It focuses 232 00:12:03,920 --> 00:12:10,920 Speaker 1: on fundamentals, avoiding unnecessary debt, understanding risk, thinking long term, 233 00:12:11,080 --> 00:12:16,160 Speaker 1: No get rich quick schemes, no fantasy economics. The emphasis 234 00:12:16,240 --> 00:12:21,600 Speaker 1: is on practical ideas around money, responsibility and discipline. And 235 00:12:21,679 --> 00:12:25,480 Speaker 1: of course, like anything involving investing, there's always risk and 236 00:12:25,520 --> 00:12:29,080 Speaker 1: that includes the possibility of losing principle. And that's exactly 237 00:12:29,120 --> 00:12:32,319 Speaker 1: why learning how to think about money early matters. If 238 00:12:32,320 --> 00:12:35,520 Speaker 1: a book is designed as an educational resource for those 239 00:12:35,559 --> 00:12:39,160 Speaker 1: starting out, or for parents and grandparents looking to begin 240 00:12:39,320 --> 00:12:43,079 Speaker 1: the conversation. To request a free copy, call eight eight 241 00:12:43,120 --> 00:12:47,320 Speaker 1: eight eight hundred eighteen eighty one or email Kelly at 242 00:12:47,400 --> 00:12:49,160 Speaker 1: Kelly Financial dot org. 243 00:12:52,120 --> 00:12:53,720 Speaker 2: Welcome back to Safe Money Strategies. 244 00:12:53,720 --> 00:12:57,360 Speaker 7: I'm Mike Dussat, Chief operating Officer at Kelly Financial and 245 00:12:57,440 --> 00:13:00,520 Speaker 7: I'm joined as always by my colleague and investment advisor, 246 00:13:00,679 --> 00:13:03,160 Speaker 7: Greg Workman. If you've been listening to us over the 247 00:13:03,200 --> 00:13:05,560 Speaker 7: past few weeks, you know we've talked a lot about 248 00:13:05,559 --> 00:13:09,000 Speaker 7: retirement income, not just how much you've saved, but how 249 00:13:09,080 --> 00:13:12,960 Speaker 7: much that money actually turns into a paycheck once work stops. 250 00:13:13,520 --> 00:13:15,760 Speaker 7: And today we want to dig into something that trips 251 00:13:15,840 --> 00:13:18,960 Speaker 7: up a lot of retirees. It's not just what income 252 00:13:19,000 --> 00:13:21,560 Speaker 7: sources you have, it's the order you use them in. 253 00:13:21,840 --> 00:13:24,400 Speaker 8: That's right, Mike, And this is one of those topics 254 00:13:24,440 --> 00:13:28,360 Speaker 8: where people assume it's simple. They'll say, I'll just take 255 00:13:28,559 --> 00:13:32,440 Speaker 8: social Security when I retire, pull from my investments as needed, 256 00:13:32,720 --> 00:13:33,720 Speaker 8: and we'll be fine. 257 00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:36,319 Speaker 6: But when you peel the onion back the. 258 00:13:36,600 --> 00:13:42,520 Speaker 8: Order you take income, social Security, pensions, if applicable, iras, 259 00:13:43,080 --> 00:13:47,840 Speaker 8: wrath accounts, brokerage money. That can have a huge impact 260 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:53,040 Speaker 8: on taxes, long term sustainability, and even peace of mind. 261 00:13:53,280 --> 00:13:55,720 Speaker 7: And the tricky part is two retirees can have the 262 00:13:55,920 --> 00:14:00,400 Speaker 7: exact same balances, the same income sources instill end up 263 00:14:00,440 --> 00:14:03,360 Speaker 7: with very different outcomes, all because of sequencing. 264 00:14:03,679 --> 00:14:06,440 Speaker 2: That's why today's episode is called order matters. 265 00:14:06,600 --> 00:14:10,520 Speaker 8: Let's start with why people struggle here. During your working years, 266 00:14:10,679 --> 00:14:14,400 Speaker 8: income order is simple. You get paid, taxes come out, 267 00:14:14,600 --> 00:14:17,640 Speaker 8: and you save whatever's left in retirement. 268 00:14:17,880 --> 00:14:18,520 Speaker 6: It flips. 269 00:14:18,960 --> 00:14:22,200 Speaker 8: Now you're in charge of deciding which account to pull from, 270 00:14:22,280 --> 00:14:25,520 Speaker 8: how much to take one to turn on guaranteed income 271 00:14:25,880 --> 00:14:29,280 Speaker 8: and how to coordinate it all with taxes, and no 272 00:14:29,320 --> 00:14:32,880 Speaker 8: one hands you an instruction manual exactly. Most people retire 273 00:14:32,920 --> 00:14:33,400 Speaker 8: only once. 274 00:14:33,520 --> 00:14:36,600 Speaker 7: They don't get a practice run, and unfortunately, the advice 275 00:14:36,640 --> 00:14:39,840 Speaker 7: they hear is often piecemeal. They'll hear one person say, 276 00:14:40,000 --> 00:14:43,160 Speaker 7: delay so security as long as possible. Another will say 277 00:14:43,480 --> 00:14:45,760 Speaker 7: take it as soon as you can. Someone else will say, 278 00:14:45,960 --> 00:14:49,080 Speaker 7: just live off your investments early. None of those ideas 279 00:14:49,160 --> 00:14:52,680 Speaker 7: are automatically wrong, but none of them work in isolation either. 280 00:14:52,840 --> 00:14:56,280 Speaker 8: Let's walk through a hypothetical example, not an actual client, 281 00:14:56,560 --> 00:14:59,120 Speaker 8: but a scenario that we see often. Let's say we 282 00:14:59,200 --> 00:15:02,840 Speaker 8: have a married couple Joe and Maria, both our age 283 00:15:02,880 --> 00:15:07,120 Speaker 8: sixty five, recently retired, and here's what They have. One 284 00:15:07,160 --> 00:15:10,840 Speaker 8: point two million dollars in retirement accounts, mostly in pre 285 00:15:10,960 --> 00:15:16,360 Speaker 8: tax traditional iras, a small taxable brokerage account, no pension 286 00:15:16,600 --> 00:15:20,480 Speaker 8: on either side, both eligible for Social Security based on 287 00:15:20,520 --> 00:15:24,360 Speaker 8: their age. On paper, they're in good shape. But here's 288 00:15:24,440 --> 00:15:26,440 Speaker 8: where order comes in. 289 00:15:26,760 --> 00:15:30,640 Speaker 7: Joe says, let's just delay social Security until seventy and 290 00:15:30,840 --> 00:15:32,400 Speaker 7: pull from the IRA until then. 291 00:15:32,840 --> 00:15:34,280 Speaker 2: Sounds reasonable, right. 292 00:15:34,160 --> 00:15:38,120 Speaker 8: It does, until you look at the tax picture. Pulling 293 00:15:38,200 --> 00:15:41,960 Speaker 8: heavily from a traditional IRA in your mid sixties can 294 00:15:42,280 --> 00:15:46,840 Speaker 8: push you into higher tax brackets, increase future rmds or 295 00:15:46,880 --> 00:15:52,320 Speaker 8: required minimum distributions, potentially cause more of your Social Security 296 00:15:52,560 --> 00:15:56,440 Speaker 8: to be taxed later than even increase your medicare premiums 297 00:15:56,480 --> 00:16:00,680 Speaker 8: down the road. So by doing what sounds smart in isolation, 298 00:16:01,160 --> 00:16:04,200 Speaker 8: they may be setting themselves up for a bigger problem 299 00:16:04,440 --> 00:16:05,120 Speaker 8: down the road. 300 00:16:05,320 --> 00:16:08,240 Speaker 7: One of the biggest planning mistakes we see is retirees 301 00:16:08,280 --> 00:16:11,160 Speaker 7: treating every dollar like it's equal. A dollar in a 302 00:16:11,200 --> 00:16:13,240 Speaker 7: ROTH account is not the same as a dollar in 303 00:16:13,280 --> 00:16:16,400 Speaker 7: a traditional IRA, A dollar from Social Security is not 304 00:16:16,560 --> 00:16:18,920 Speaker 7: tax the same as a dollar from an investment account. 305 00:16:19,080 --> 00:16:21,440 Speaker 7: But emotionally people just see money. 306 00:16:21,280 --> 00:16:27,440 Speaker 8: Right, and the irs ces categories. Some dollars are fully taxable, 307 00:16:27,640 --> 00:16:32,480 Speaker 8: partially taxable, or potentially tax free, and the order you 308 00:16:32,600 --> 00:16:38,480 Speaker 8: tap those buckets affects your marginal tax bracket, your provisional income, 309 00:16:38,880 --> 00:16:40,720 Speaker 8: your future flexibility. 310 00:16:41,120 --> 00:16:43,320 Speaker 6: And that's why order matters so much. 311 00:16:43,600 --> 00:16:45,760 Speaker 7: We hear this all the time. I'm not too worried. 312 00:16:45,920 --> 00:16:48,400 Speaker 7: I'll just take money as I need it. The problem is, 313 00:16:48,720 --> 00:16:51,960 Speaker 7: retirement income planning isn't just about this year. It's about 314 00:16:51,960 --> 00:16:55,000 Speaker 7: creating a strategy that works over twenty five or thirty years. 315 00:16:55,160 --> 00:16:55,760 Speaker 6: Exactly. 316 00:16:56,080 --> 00:16:59,520 Speaker 8: If you only focus on the next twelve months, you 317 00:16:59,560 --> 00:17:05,399 Speaker 8: can add accidentally trigger unnecessary taxes. Misplanning opportunities in lower 318 00:17:05,480 --> 00:17:09,240 Speaker 8: tax years lock yourself into higher taxes later. 319 00:17:09,640 --> 00:17:12,320 Speaker 6: With rm ds and the early. 320 00:17:12,040 --> 00:17:15,919 Speaker 8: Years of retirement, they're often the best planning years, but 321 00:17:16,200 --> 00:17:17,840 Speaker 8: only if you're intentional. 322 00:17:18,000 --> 00:17:21,160 Speaker 7: This is where a written retirement plan becomes so valuable. 323 00:17:21,400 --> 00:17:24,360 Speaker 7: Instead of guessing, we can map out when social security 324 00:17:24,400 --> 00:17:26,760 Speaker 7: should start for each spouse, how much to pull from 325 00:17:26,800 --> 00:17:30,560 Speaker 7: each accounts, how to manage taxes over time, how income 326 00:17:30,680 --> 00:17:34,119 Speaker 7: changes when rmds begin, and suddenly retirement feels a lot 327 00:17:34,200 --> 00:17:34,920 Speaker 7: less stressful. 328 00:17:35,000 --> 00:17:39,520 Speaker 8: And importantly, this isn't just about finding the perfect answer, 329 00:17:39,880 --> 00:17:44,719 Speaker 8: It's about finding the best coordinated answer for your situation. 330 00:17:45,240 --> 00:17:49,479 Speaker 8: Because there's no universal, quote unquote right order. There's only 331 00:17:49,560 --> 00:17:51,160 Speaker 8: the right order for you. 332 00:17:51,359 --> 00:17:53,720 Speaker 7: Coming up in the second half of today's show, we're 333 00:17:53,720 --> 00:17:55,800 Speaker 7: going to get a little bit more specific, and we'll 334 00:17:55,800 --> 00:17:59,639 Speaker 7: talk about common income sequencing strategies, how social security timing 335 00:17:59,680 --> 00:18:02,879 Speaker 7: fits to the bigger picture, and how smart ordering can 336 00:18:02,920 --> 00:18:05,640 Speaker 7: reduce lifetime taxes and increase confidence. 337 00:18:05,880 --> 00:18:09,920 Speaker 8: And we'll also share another hypothetical example showing how small 338 00:18:10,040 --> 00:18:14,640 Speaker 8: changes in order can lead to noticeably different outcomes. 339 00:18:14,840 --> 00:18:17,320 Speaker 7: If you're listening and thinking I don't actually know what 340 00:18:17,480 --> 00:18:20,320 Speaker 7: or I'm planning to take income in that's very common. 341 00:18:20,480 --> 00:18:23,320 Speaker 7: That's why we put together our Safe Money Strategies workbook. 342 00:18:23,520 --> 00:18:26,360 Speaker 7: It helps you start organizing these decisions before you ever 343 00:18:26,359 --> 00:18:27,320 Speaker 7: make a permanent move. 344 00:18:27,480 --> 00:18:32,160 Speaker 8: It's complementary, and it's designed to help you think through income, 345 00:18:32,480 --> 00:18:36,679 Speaker 8: taxes and timing, all in one place. 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I believe that 357 00:19:22,000 --> 00:19:23,240 Speaker 5: this nation should commit it. 358 00:19:23,359 --> 00:19:26,840 Speaker 7: Zel achieving the goal of landing a man on the 359 00:19:26,880 --> 00:19:29,000 Speaker 7: Moon and returning him safely to the. 360 00:19:28,960 --> 00:19:37,560 Speaker 9: Earth six five four three two one zero All engine. 361 00:19:37,320 --> 00:19:40,760 Speaker 2: Run, look dot follow level. 362 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:45,600 Speaker 9: Remember those Apollo Moon missions one of America's greatest adventures 363 00:19:45,640 --> 00:19:49,600 Speaker 9: and achievements too. The nation set a goal and then 364 00:19:49,640 --> 00:19:54,000 Speaker 9: realized it. What are your goals? At Kelly Financial Services, 365 00:19:54,280 --> 00:19:57,600 Speaker 9: We've got the right team and technology to help launch 366 00:19:57,680 --> 00:20:00,760 Speaker 9: your retirement planning. 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Where do 370 00:20:11,960 --> 00:20:12,840 Speaker 9: you want to land? 371 00:20:13,440 --> 00:20:13,760 Speaker 6: Listen? 372 00:20:14,080 --> 00:20:16,600 Speaker 10: Thank galitybavierkle I landed. 373 00:20:16,800 --> 00:20:18,600 Speaker 9: We are Kelly Financial Services. 374 00:20:18,880 --> 00:20:23,919 Speaker 3: Come retire with us The Money Wrap with Kelly Financial 375 00:20:23,960 --> 00:20:28,680 Speaker 3: Advisors Greg Murray and Mary Madeline Kelly. 376 00:20:28,800 --> 00:20:31,720 Speaker 10: Hello, this is Greg Murray, Senior Vice president and Chief 377 00:20:31,760 --> 00:20:35,080 Speaker 10: Compliance Officer at Kelly Financial Services. Joining me today is 378 00:20:35,160 --> 00:20:37,639 Speaker 10: Mary Madeline Kelly, one of our wealth advisors. How are 379 00:20:37,680 --> 00:20:38,280 Speaker 10: you doing today? 380 00:20:38,400 --> 00:20:38,560 Speaker 6: Hi? 381 00:20:38,640 --> 00:20:42,400 Speaker 11: Greg, I'm great, Thanks for asking, and honestly I can't 382 00:20:42,400 --> 00:20:45,440 Speaker 11: believe hop past February is flying by. January felt like 383 00:20:45,480 --> 00:20:48,800 Speaker 11: it lasted forever and now suddenly we're almost into March. 384 00:20:49,119 --> 00:20:52,200 Speaker 11: I don't know about everyone listening, but I am definitely 385 00:20:52,240 --> 00:20:53,480 Speaker 11: ready for some spring weather. 386 00:20:53,720 --> 00:20:56,040 Speaker 10: I'm right there with you. February always seems to pick 387 00:20:56,080 --> 00:20:58,320 Speaker 10: up speed, and by this point everyone's ready for the 388 00:20:58,359 --> 00:21:01,560 Speaker 10: longer days, a little sunshine and maybe getting outside. 389 00:21:01,240 --> 00:21:05,000 Speaker 11: More exactly, and speaking of looking ahead, that actually ties 390 00:21:05,080 --> 00:21:08,320 Speaker 11: nicely into what we're talking about today. Retirement planning is 391 00:21:08,359 --> 00:21:11,199 Speaker 11: really about preparing for the future, but the reality is 392 00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:13,520 Speaker 11: it's gotten a lot more complicated than it was for 393 00:21:13,560 --> 00:21:14,520 Speaker 11: our parents' generation. 394 00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:15,879 Speaker 2: That's absolutely true. 395 00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:18,720 Speaker 10: Today we're talking about why retirement planning is harder now 396 00:21:18,760 --> 00:21:20,840 Speaker 10: than it used to be, and more importantly, what people 397 00:21:20,880 --> 00:21:21,640 Speaker 10: can do about it. 398 00:21:21,760 --> 00:21:24,879 Speaker 11: And I think one of the biggest differences is pensions. 399 00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:28,560 Speaker 11: Many of our parents or grandparents had employer pensions that 400 00:21:28,640 --> 00:21:32,600 Speaker 11: provided a steady income stream in retirement. It wasn't something 401 00:21:32,680 --> 00:21:34,240 Speaker 11: they had to actively manage or. 402 00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:38,879 Speaker 10: Worry about as much exactly the predictable income simplified to retirement. Today, 403 00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:41,399 Speaker 10: penses are much less common and most people relying for 404 00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:45,680 Speaker 10: one case iras and personal savements. That gives people more control, 405 00:21:45,880 --> 00:21:49,280 Speaker 10: but it also puts more responsibility on their shoulders. 406 00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:52,600 Speaker 11: Yes, and that responsibility can feel overwhelming. People have to 407 00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:58,320 Speaker 11: make investment decisions, contribution decisions, withdrawal decisions, and those choices 408 00:21:58,359 --> 00:22:01,000 Speaker 11: can affect decades of retire Another. 409 00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:03,520 Speaker 10: Big factor as longevity. People are living longer, which is 410 00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:06,239 Speaker 10: a wonderful thing, but it also means retirement savings may 411 00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:08,560 Speaker 10: need to last twenty five or even thirty. 412 00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:12,080 Speaker 11: Years right, and that introduces new questions. How much income 413 00:22:12,200 --> 00:22:17,159 Speaker 11: is sustainable, how to account for inflation, healthcare costs, market fluctuation. 414 00:22:17,720 --> 00:22:21,200 Speaker 11: Those weren't concerns to the same extent for previous generations. 415 00:22:21,359 --> 00:22:25,400 Speaker 10: And speaking of markets, investment responsibility has shifted dramatically. Many 416 00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:28,040 Speaker 10: retirees today are directly exposed to the market ups and 417 00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:30,520 Speaker 10: downs through their retirement accounts. 418 00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:33,840 Speaker 11: Exactly, and we always remind people that investing involves risk, 419 00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:38,240 Speaker 11: including the potential loss of principle. Managing those risks thoughtfully 420 00:22:38,440 --> 00:22:40,719 Speaker 11: is a key part of modern retirement planning. 421 00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:42,960 Speaker 2: Healthcare costs are another major difference. 422 00:22:43,040 --> 00:22:47,119 Speaker 10: Medical expenses, insurance premiums, potential long term care needs. 423 00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:48,880 Speaker 2: All of that requires careful. 424 00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:52,240 Speaker 11: Planning, yes, and uncertainty around healthcare can be one of 425 00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:55,919 Speaker 11: the biggest sources of financial stress for retirees. Planning ahead 426 00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:59,399 Speaker 11: doesn't eliminate uncertainty, but it definitely helps to manage it. 427 00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:03,080 Speaker 10: Seen more complex career paths now, people change jobs more often, 428 00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:06,960 Speaker 10: accumulate multiple retirement accounts, sometimes our business, or work part 429 00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:07,600 Speaker 10: time later. 430 00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:10,679 Speaker 11: In life, and while that flexibility can be great, it 431 00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:12,520 Speaker 11: does add layers of complexity. 432 00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:15,320 Speaker 2: Organization becomes incredibly. 433 00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:17,880 Speaker 11: Important, knowing what you have, where it is, and how 434 00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:18,800 Speaker 11: it all fits together. 435 00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:22,000 Speaker 10: Taxes also play a bigger role today. Retirement income often 436 00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:27,200 Speaker 10: comes from multiple sources social Security, traditional retirement accounts, Wroth accounts, 437 00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:30,760 Speaker 10: Brokeridge accounts, and each has different tax treatments exactly. 438 00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:34,600 Speaker 11: Thoughtful withdrawal strategies can make a meaningful difference over time, 439 00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:38,440 Speaker 11: and that's something many people don't realize until they're already retired. 440 00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:40,600 Speaker 10: And then there's the emotional side of all of this. 441 00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:45,040 Speaker 10: With more responsibility comes more uncertainty, and uncertainty can lead 442 00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:45,560 Speaker 10: to stress. 443 00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:48,359 Speaker 11: A lot of people worry not just about whether they've 444 00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:51,480 Speaker 11: saved enough, but whether they're making the right decisions along 445 00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:55,440 Speaker 11: the way. And that's completely understandable given how much has changed. 446 00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:58,320 Speaker 10: So when we talk about retirement being harder today, it's 447 00:23:58,359 --> 00:24:02,240 Speaker 10: not about discouraging paps. It's about recognizing realities that we 448 00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:04,040 Speaker 10: can plan effectively, exactly. 449 00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:06,879 Speaker 11: And the good news is, even though retirement planning is 450 00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:11,280 Speaker 11: more complex now, there are also more tools, resources, and 451 00:24:11,359 --> 00:24:13,920 Speaker 11: professional guidance available than ever before. 452 00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:17,119 Speaker 10: So if there's a takeaway from today's conversation, it's really 453 00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:22,000 Speaker 10: this start planning early, stay organized, review regularly, and don't 454 00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:23,440 Speaker 10: hesitate to ask for help. 455 00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:27,160 Speaker 11: Because retirement success today isn't about luck. It's about preparation, 456 00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:29,560 Speaker 11: and preparation leads to confidence. 457 00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:33,000 Speaker 10: And there's always every financial situation is unique and investing 458 00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:35,560 Speaker 10: involves a risk, so plans should be tailored to individual 459 00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:36,840 Speaker 10: goals and circumstances. 460 00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:40,880 Speaker 11: Absolutely, but with thoughtful planning, people can absolutely build financial 461 00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:44,880 Speaker 11: security and enjoy retirement even in today's more complex environment. 462 00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:47,239 Speaker 10: Well said, that's going to wrap things up today. If 463 00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:50,119 Speaker 10: you like help reviewing your retirement plan or preparing for 464 00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:51,440 Speaker 10: the future, give us a call. 465 00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:52,200 Speaker 2: We'd be happy to. 466 00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:52,560 Speaker 6: Talk with you. 467 00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:55,520 Speaker 2: Definitely. Thanks Greg, and have a great weekend. 468 00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:58,480 Speaker 3: To get in touch with Greg Murray or Mary Madeline 469 00:24:58,560 --> 00:25:02,160 Speaker 3: Kelly or any member of the Kelly Financial team called 470 00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:10,720 Speaker 3: at eight eight hundred eighteen eighty one. Safe Money Strategies 471 00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:14,399 Speaker 3: with William Kelly and Kelly Kelly call the team on 472 00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:23,800 Speaker 3: at A eight eight hundreds, eighteen eighty one. 473 00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:29,240 Speaker 4: Welcome back to Safe Money Strategies. I'm Kelly Kelly alongside 474 00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:33,360 Speaker 4: my son, William Kelly Junior, and today we're talking about 475 00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:38,359 Speaker 4: something that sounds technical at first, tax free income. But 476 00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:42,360 Speaker 4: this really is not a tax segment. It's a lifestyle 477 00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:46,480 Speaker 4: segment because when we talk about tax free income, what 478 00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:51,080 Speaker 4: we're really talking about is flexibility and confidence. 479 00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:54,720 Speaker 2: That's the part people don't always expect. When someone hears 480 00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:57,680 Speaker 2: tax free income. They may think it's about minimizing taxes, 481 00:25:58,119 --> 00:26:00,240 Speaker 2: but what we often see is that it's more about 482 00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:05,120 Speaker 2: understanding how income works. Because retirement income today is not simple. 483 00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:06,119 Speaker 5: Not at all. 484 00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:11,040 Speaker 4: Years ago, many retirees relied on a pension and Social 485 00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:17,480 Speaker 4: Security income was relatively predictable. Now, most retirees have multiple 486 00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:23,560 Speaker 4: types of accounts, traditional iras four oh one k's wrath accounts, 487 00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:28,840 Speaker 4: taxable brokerage accounts. Each one may be taxed differently, and 488 00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:34,119 Speaker 4: once you retire, income is no longer automatic. You decide 489 00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:37,240 Speaker 4: when to take it, how much to take, and from 490 00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:38,040 Speaker 4: which account. 491 00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:40,040 Speaker 6: And that's where hesitation can begin. 492 00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:43,280 Speaker 2: Because many retirees are not necessarily worried about how much 493 00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:46,960 Speaker 2: they say. They're worried about managing it correctly. They're asking, 494 00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:50,040 Speaker 2: how does this withdraw effect client taxes? Will this push 495 00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:52,320 Speaker 2: me into a high bracket? What does this mean for 496 00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:57,000 Speaker 2: medicare premiums? Uncertainty leads to pause, and that pause. 497 00:26:56,720 --> 00:27:02,320 Speaker 4: Can shape retirement more than people realize. Seeing individuals delay travel, 498 00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:08,760 Speaker 4: delay gifting, delay experiences with children and grandchildren, not because 499 00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:12,200 Speaker 4: they can't afford those things, but because they are unsure 500 00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:16,280 Speaker 4: how their income decisions may ripple through their tax picture. 501 00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:21,320 Speaker 4: Tax free income conversations are not about eliminating taxes. 502 00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:25,040 Speaker 5: They are about understanding which dollars are. 503 00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:30,480 Speaker 2: Taxed and when timing matters. If income comes from multiple 504 00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:34,360 Speaker 2: sources and each source is treated differently, coordination becomes important. 505 00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:38,719 Speaker 2: Some income may be fully toxible, some partially taxable, some 506 00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:43,399 Speaker 2: may not be toxable at all. Understanding those distinctions supports confidence. 507 00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:48,960 Speaker 4: In confidence changes behavior more than income ever does. When 508 00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:55,320 Speaker 4: someone understands how their accounts work together, decisions feel more deliberate. 509 00:27:55,640 --> 00:28:01,080 Speaker 4: They are less reactive, less anxious, more intentional because they 510 00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:03,320 Speaker 4: are choosing rather than guessing. 511 00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:07,080 Speaker 2: This has become even more relevant because retirement rules have 512 00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:11,240 Speaker 2: a vault required minimum distribution ages have shifted in recent years, 513 00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:15,680 Speaker 2: Legislative updates have reflected longer life expectancies, and sometimes people 514 00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:18,800 Speaker 2: are operating under rules they learn ten or fifteen years ago. 515 00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:21,439 Speaker 6: Those rules may not apply in the same way today. 516 00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:26,840 Speaker 4: Awareness reduces stress. If you understand how long term assets 517 00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:31,680 Speaker 4: may remain tax deferred, or how tax free income sources 518 00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:36,800 Speaker 4: may fit into your overall picture, retirement can feel more structured, 519 00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:42,320 Speaker 4: and structures support steadiness. Tax Free income does not mean 520 00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:47,720 Speaker 4: spending more. It means having options when life changes, healthcare 521 00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:54,920 Speaker 4: expenses increase, family needs arise, opportunities appear. Flexibility gives you 522 00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:56,760 Speaker 4: room to respond. 523 00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:59,640 Speaker 2: And there's also an emotional side to this. Taxes can 524 00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:03,480 Speaker 2: trigger fear, fear of running out, fear of making a mistake, 525 00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:07,960 Speaker 2: fear of unintended consequences. Headlines can amplify those fears without 526 00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:11,960 Speaker 2: always providing clarity, but when income structure is understood, fear 527 00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:12,960 Speaker 2: often softens. 528 00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:18,440 Speaker 4: Exactly, retirement is not just financial, it's emotional, and when 529 00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:22,720 Speaker 4: people are uncertain about how withdrawals affect their broader picture, 530 00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:30,600 Speaker 4: they sometimes become overly cautious. They underspend, they delay, meaningful experiences, 531 00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:33,880 Speaker 4: not because the numbers say they must, but because the 532 00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:41,160 Speaker 4: rules feel unclear. Understanding the rules often replaces fear with steadiness. 533 00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:44,000 Speaker 6: In Steadiness supports better decisions. 534 00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:48,440 Speaker 2: Retirement income planning is rarely about finding one perfect account. 535 00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:52,600 Speaker 2: It's about coordinating multiple accounts so that income decisions feel intentional. 536 00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:57,720 Speaker 2: Balance tends to support flexibility. Concentration can create rigidity. 537 00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:03,320 Speaker 4: At Kelly Financial Service as our fiduciary advisors approach this 538 00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:08,440 Speaker 4: from an educational standpoint. The emphasis is not on promising 539 00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:13,800 Speaker 4: specific outcomes, is not on predicting future tax rates. It 540 00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:19,400 Speaker 4: is on helping families understand how income sources function under 541 00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:24,280 Speaker 4: current rules and how those rules may influence everyday decisions. 542 00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:29,920 Speaker 4: Education supports clarity. Clarity supports confidence. 543 00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:33,280 Speaker 2: And it's important to remember TOX laws can change. We 544 00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:35,760 Speaker 2: are not TOX advisors, and we encourage you to coordinate 545 00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:39,920 Speaker 2: any TOX decisions with your CPA or TOX professional. Markets fluctuate, 546 00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:44,200 Speaker 2: personal circumstances evolve, and all investing evolves risk, including the 547 00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:47,240 Speaker 2: potential loss of principle. No single strategy is appropriate for 548 00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:50,640 Speaker 2: every household. That is why informed conversation matters. 549 00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:54,960 Speaker 4: If you are unsure how your retirement income may be taxed, 550 00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:59,840 Speaker 4: or how evolving rules could influence your lifestyle decisions, it 551 00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:04,560 Speaker 4: may be worth reviewing your income structure with a qualified professional. 552 00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:10,040 Speaker 4: The fiduciary advisors at Kelly Financial Services focus on helping 553 00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:16,240 Speaker 4: families understand how their accounts work together, how timing affects income, 554 00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:21,800 Speaker 4: how structure supports flexibility. Because retirement is not just about 555 00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:26,840 Speaker 4: account balances, it's about how those balances support your life, travel, 556 00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:34,440 Speaker 4: family time, generosity, healthcare decisions. Tax awareness simply helps clarify 557 00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:38,720 Speaker 4: how income supports those priorities. If you would like to 558 00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:43,200 Speaker 4: better understand how your retirement income is structured and how 559 00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:47,760 Speaker 4: tax awareness may support greater flexibility, you can call us 560 00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:51,640 Speaker 4: at eight eight eight eight hundred eighteen eighty one or 561 00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:56,720 Speaker 4: email Kelly at Kellyfinancial dot org to schedule a time 562 00:31:56,840 --> 00:31:59,720 Speaker 4: to speak with a member of the Kelly Financial team, 563 00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:03,560 Speaker 4: and when we return, we'll continue this conversation and talk 564 00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:08,120 Speaker 4: about practical steps that can help retires stay organized and 565 00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:11,360 Speaker 4: confident as retirement rules evolve. 566 00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:12,640 Speaker 5: Stay with us. 567 00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:17,600 Speaker 4: There's more head on safe money strategies. 568 00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:22,760 Speaker 3: Safe money strategies brought to you by Kelly Financial Services. 569 00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:26,720 Speaker 3: Call eight eight eight eight hundred eighteen eighty one or 570 00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:28,720 Speaker 3: visit Kellyfinancial dot org. 571 00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:33,280 Speaker 9: Ready to enjoy your golden years without worry. At Kelly Financial, 572 00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:36,719 Speaker 9: we know retirement planning can be overwhelming. With more than 573 00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:40,480 Speaker 9: twenty two years of experience, our friendly team of advisors 574 00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:43,720 Speaker 9: makes it easy and stress free. Trust us to help 575 00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:47,280 Speaker 9: you create a secure and enjoyable future. For a free 576 00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:51,600 Speaker 9: initial retirement consultation called eight eight eight eight hundred, eighteen 577 00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:55,840 Speaker 9: eighty one or email Kelly at Kellyfinancial dot org. We're 578 00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:58,000 Speaker 9: Kelly Financial. Come retire with. 579 00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:02,920 Speaker 3: Us Safe money strategy Jee with William Kelly and Kelly Kelly. 580 00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:07,440 Speaker 3: Call the team on eight eight hundred, eighteen eighty one 581 00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:13,400 Speaker 3: taking care. 582 00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:17,600 Speaker 4: Welcome back to save money strategies. I'm Kelly Kelly here 583 00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:21,000 Speaker 4: with my son, William Kelly Junior. In the first segment, 584 00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:25,120 Speaker 4: we talked about how tax free income is not about 585 00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:30,240 Speaker 4: avoiding taxes. It's about flexibility. It's about knowing how your 586 00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:35,479 Speaker 4: income works, so retirement decisions feel steady, not stressful. So 587 00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:40,800 Speaker 4: let's make this practical. What does tax confidence actually look like? 588 00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:44,520 Speaker 2: I think it starts with something very simple. Knowing where 589 00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:46,920 Speaker 2: your income is coming from, not in a vague way, 590 00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:50,880 Speaker 2: but specifically which accounts create toxboy income, which accounts may not. 591 00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:53,800 Speaker 2: How does one withdrawal effect the rest? Because a lot 592 00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:56,440 Speaker 2: of hesitation and retirement doesn't come from a lack of money. 593 00:33:56,640 --> 00:33:58,360 Speaker 6: It comes from a lack of clarity. 594 00:33:58,560 --> 00:33:59,920 Speaker 5: And that's exactly right. 595 00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:04,040 Speaker 4: When people are unsure about how a distribution might affect 596 00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:08,560 Speaker 4: their overall tax picture, they pause, They delay trips, they 597 00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:14,160 Speaker 4: rethink gifts, they question larger purchases, not necessarily because they 598 00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:18,320 Speaker 4: cannot afford them, but because they do not want surprises. 599 00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:22,640 Speaker 4: And that hesitation can quietly shape retirement. 600 00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:24,440 Speaker 6: And retirement income today is layered. 601 00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:27,000 Speaker 2: Some people have traditional iras or four to one keys, 602 00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:31,279 Speaker 2: Some have roth accounts, some have taxable brokerage accounts. Others 603 00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:35,080 Speaker 2: may have health savings accounts or certain insurance structures. Each 604 00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:39,120 Speaker 2: one behaves differently, Each one has rules, and the goal 605 00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:40,360 Speaker 2: is not to use everything. 606 00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:42,279 Speaker 6: It is to understand what you have. 607 00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:47,160 Speaker 4: And once you understand what you have, flexibility begins to 608 00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:51,280 Speaker 4: feel more real because you're not relying on a single 609 00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:57,560 Speaker 4: income source, you're coordinating them. Retirement flexibility usually comes from balance, 610 00:34:57,880 --> 00:34:59,839 Speaker 4: not Concentration. 611 00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:04,200 Speaker 2: Does not happen automatically. It requires organization. Do you know 612 00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:08,160 Speaker 2: where your accounts are are beneficiary designation's current Does your 613 00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:11,880 Speaker 2: spouse understand how income flows with a trusted contact nowhere 614 00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:15,120 Speaker 2: to look in an emergency? Those are not complicated steps, 615 00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:16,520 Speaker 2: but they reduce confusion. 616 00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:23,960 Speaker 4: Clear communication prevents stress later When both spouses understand account structures, 617 00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:31,120 Speaker 4: When beneficiaries reflect current wishes, When documents are accessible, transitions 618 00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:35,839 Speaker 4: tend to feel smoother, and that organization supports confidence. 619 00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:40,200 Speaker 2: Another piece of this is context. Retirement tax rules overlap. 620 00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:40,880 Speaker 6: They evolve. 621 00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:43,399 Speaker 2: Well worked five years ago may not work the same 622 00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:46,560 Speaker 2: way today, and many retirees make decisions one account at 623 00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:49,640 Speaker 2: a time. They withdraw from one source without considering how 624 00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:53,359 Speaker 2: that decision interacts with other areas of their financial picture exactly. 625 00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:59,920 Speaker 4: A withdrawal might affect taxable income That could influence Medicare premium. 626 00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:04,839 Speaker 4: It could shift bracket exposure. It could change how other 627 00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:11,680 Speaker 4: income is treated. Some income is fully taxable, some partially taxable, 628 00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:16,520 Speaker 4: Some may not be taxable at all. Understanding how those 629 00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:19,680 Speaker 4: pieces interact matters, and this. 630 00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:20,520 Speaker 6: Is where do it yourself. 631 00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:24,240 Speaker 2: Retirement tax decisions can sometimes create unintended consequences. 632 00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:26,160 Speaker 6: There's nothing wrong with being. 633 00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:29,840 Speaker 2: Engaged in your financial life, but retirement income plainning is layered. 634 00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:35,840 Speaker 2: It touches taxes, longevity, beneficiary coordination, lifestyle priorities. Without context, 635 00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:38,000 Speaker 2: it's easy to focus on one decision and miss the 636 00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:38,720 Speaker 2: ripple effect. 637 00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:45,080 Speaker 4: At Kelly Financial Services, the fiduciary advisors approach these conversations 638 00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:50,200 Speaker 4: from an educational perspective. The emphasis is not on predictions, 639 00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:55,680 Speaker 4: is not on promising specific outcomes. It's on helping families 640 00:36:55,880 --> 00:37:01,680 Speaker 4: understand how income sources function together under current rules. Education 641 00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:04,120 Speaker 4: support steadiness. 642 00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:07,440 Speaker 2: And steadiness is powerful in retirement because flexibility does not 643 00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:12,680 Speaker 2: require perfection, it requires awareness. When retirees understand their income structure, 644 00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:17,520 Speaker 2: they're often more comfortable reviewing decisions annually. They can adjust gradually, 645 00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:21,360 Speaker 2: they can respond to evolving rules thoughtfully instead of emotionally. 646 00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:25,840 Speaker 4: And we should say this clearly. Tax laws can change, 647 00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:33,759 Speaker 4: personal circumstances, change markets, fluctuate. All investing involves risk, including 648 00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:38,640 Speaker 4: the potential laws of principle. No single strategy is appropriate 649 00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:43,600 Speaker 4: for every individual. That is why periodic review matters, not 650 00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:49,040 Speaker 4: because something is necessarily wrong, but because staying informed supports 651 00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:51,160 Speaker 4: better decisions over time. 652 00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:54,319 Speaker 2: And this really comes back to lifestyle. Retirement is not 653 00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:57,680 Speaker 2: only about account balances, It's about how those balances, support 654 00:37:57,680 --> 00:38:03,520 Speaker 2: your life, travel, family gatherings, charitable giving, healthcare decisions, housing choices. 655 00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:07,920 Speaker 2: Tax awareness simply helps clarify how income supports those priorities. 656 00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:09,120 Speaker 5: If you have not. 657 00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:14,000 Speaker 4: Recently reviewed how your income sources may be taxed or 658 00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:18,719 Speaker 4: how evolving rules could influence your withdrawal approach, it may 659 00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:24,000 Speaker 4: be worth revisiting these conversations. The fiduciary advisors at Kelly 660 00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:29,840 Speaker 4: Financial Services focus on helping families evaluate income structure in 661 00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:35,200 Speaker 4: light of current regulations and personal goals. The discussion centers 662 00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:41,880 Speaker 4: on education, understanding how accounts are taxed, understanding how timing works, 663 00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:49,000 Speaker 4: understanding how income aligns with lifestyle. Clarity often leads to confidence. 664 00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:52,759 Speaker 4: If you would like to better understand how your retirement 665 00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:58,360 Speaker 4: income is structured and how tax awareness may support greater flexibility, 666 00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:02,080 Speaker 4: you can call eight eight eight eight hundred eighteen eighty 667 00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:07,200 Speaker 4: one or email Kelli at kellifinancial dot org to schedule 668 00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:09,680 Speaker 4: a time to speak with a member of the Kelli 669 00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:14,200 Speaker 4: Financial team. And as we continue today's program, we will 670 00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:18,840 Speaker 4: explore more ways thoughtful planning and steady guidance can support 671 00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:23,160 Speaker 4: the retirement lifestyle you've worked hard to build. Stay with us, 672 00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:28,120 Speaker 4: there's more ahead on safe money strategies. 673 00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:33,040 Speaker 3: Safe Money Strategies brought to you by Kelly Financial Services 674 00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:37,040 Speaker 3: Call eight eight eight eight hundred eighteen eighty one or 675 00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:39,040 Speaker 3: visit Kellyfinancial dot org. 676 00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:42,239 Speaker 2: Welcome back if you're just joining us. 677 00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:45,880 Speaker 7: Today's conversation is all about one simple but incredibly important 678 00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:47,320 Speaker 7: idea in retirement planning. 679 00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:48,480 Speaker 2: Order matters. 680 00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:51,399 Speaker 7: It's not just what income sources you have, it's when 681 00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:54,040 Speaker 7: you turn them on, how you coordinate them, and how 682 00:39:54,080 --> 00:39:55,319 Speaker 7: they work together over time. 683 00:39:55,440 --> 00:39:57,960 Speaker 8: And Mike, this is where a lot of stress and 684 00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:03,000 Speaker 8: mistakes happen, because once certain decisions are made in retirement, 685 00:40:03,239 --> 00:40:07,840 Speaker 8: they're either difficult or impossible to undo. Social Security timing, 686 00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:11,880 Speaker 8: pension elections, and even how aggressively you draw from certain 687 00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:15,120 Speaker 8: accounts can all have long term consequences. 688 00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:18,719 Speaker 7: Let's walk through how we generally think about income sequencing, 689 00:40:18,880 --> 00:40:22,040 Speaker 7: not as a rule, but as a framework. Most retirees 690 00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:25,280 Speaker 7: have income coming from a mix of guaranteed income, social 691 00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:29,200 Speaker 7: security or pensions, tax deferred accounts things such as iras 692 00:40:29,239 --> 00:40:31,920 Speaker 7: and four oh one case maybe tax free accounts like 693 00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:35,520 Speaker 7: a rough IRA, and then taxable brokerage accounts. The key 694 00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:37,560 Speaker 7: is figuring out how to layer these together. 695 00:40:37,600 --> 00:40:41,640 Speaker 8: Efficiently right, and one of the biggest planning opportunities we 696 00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:45,799 Speaker 8: often see is in the early years of retirement, especially 697 00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:51,800 Speaker 8: before required minimum distributions or r mds begin. Those years 698 00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:56,879 Speaker 8: can be a sweet spot for strategic withdrawals, managing tax brackets, 699 00:40:56,880 --> 00:41:03,040 Speaker 8: intentionally creating flexibility or in retirement, but only if there's 700 00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:03,520 Speaker 8: a plan. 701 00:41:03,719 --> 00:41:07,120 Speaker 7: Social security is usually the first big decision retirees think about, 702 00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:11,440 Speaker 7: and understandably so it feels like a now or never choice. 703 00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:12,680 Speaker 2: But here's the mistake. 704 00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:16,759 Speaker 7: People often decide when to take social security without coordinating 705 00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:18,520 Speaker 7: it with everything else exactly. 706 00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:23,600 Speaker 8: Delaying social security can make sense in many cases, especially 707 00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:28,120 Speaker 8: for longevity planning, but it's not automatically the right answer. 708 00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:32,520 Speaker 8: If you delay social Security and aggressively draw down from 709 00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:36,160 Speaker 8: tax deferred accounts in the meantime, you may pay higher 710 00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:42,239 Speaker 8: taxes earlier than necessary, inflate future rmds, and or reduce 711 00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:43,600 Speaker 8: flexibility later. 712 00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:44,279 Speaker 6: On. 713 00:41:44,280 --> 00:41:47,960 Speaker 8: On the flip side, taking social security too early can 714 00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:52,320 Speaker 8: permanently reduce your benefit. The right answer, well, it depends 715 00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:55,120 Speaker 8: on how it fits into the overall plan. 716 00:41:55,320 --> 00:41:56,080 Speaker 2: Let's walk through. 717 00:41:55,960 --> 00:41:59,160 Speaker 7: Another hypothetical example again on an actual client. Is something 718 00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:03,680 Speaker 7: we see often meets Susan. She's sixty six, recently retired 719 00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:07,080 Speaker 7: single and has eight hundred and fifty thousand in a 720 00:42:07,120 --> 00:42:10,200 Speaker 7: traditional IRA, another one hundred and fifty thousand in a 721 00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:13,600 Speaker 7: brokerage account. She has no pension, and she's eligible for 722 00:42:13,640 --> 00:42:17,240 Speaker 7: Social Security right now. Susan's first instinct is to delay 723 00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:21,080 Speaker 7: social Security until age seventy and live entirely off her IRA. 724 00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:25,160 Speaker 8: When we model this out, something interesting happens. By pulling 725 00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:28,200 Speaker 8: heavily from the IRA early, she moves into a higher 726 00:42:28,239 --> 00:42:33,040 Speaker 8: tax bracket, her future r and ds increase significantly, more 727 00:42:33,120 --> 00:42:37,160 Speaker 8: of her social Security becomes taxable later, and her Medicare 728 00:42:37,239 --> 00:42:42,120 Speaker 8: premiums are higher in her seventies. Now, let's compare that 729 00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:48,120 Speaker 8: with a coordinated approach modest IRA withdrawals, partial use of 730 00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:52,640 Speaker 8: brokerage assets, social Security that is turned on earlier at 731 00:42:52,640 --> 00:42:57,480 Speaker 8: a reduced level, taxes managed more efficiently over time. The 732 00:42:57,600 --> 00:43:02,160 Speaker 8: difference in lifetime taxes it can be substantial, even though 733 00:43:02,200 --> 00:43:05,200 Speaker 8: the total income looks similar on paper. 734 00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:08,240 Speaker 7: One thing we always tell people is this retirement planning 735 00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:11,239 Speaker 7: is a series of trade offs. There is no strategy 736 00:43:11,320 --> 00:43:16,200 Speaker 7: that maximizes income, taxes, flexibility, guarantees, and growth all at 737 00:43:16,239 --> 00:43:17,120 Speaker 7: the same time. 738 00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:21,080 Speaker 8: So instead of chasing it perfect outcome, the goal is coordination. 739 00:43:21,719 --> 00:43:26,439 Speaker 8: We want to accomplish three things. One reduce unpleasant surprises, 740 00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:30,600 Speaker 8: two smooth income and taxes over time, and three create 741 00:43:30,680 --> 00:43:35,120 Speaker 8: confidence that the plan can adapt. That's why the order 742 00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:38,440 Speaker 8: you take income matters just as much as. 743 00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:40,200 Speaker 6: How much you have rule of thumb. 744 00:43:40,320 --> 00:43:43,760 Speaker 7: They sound comforting and delay social security to age seventy, 745 00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:47,359 Speaker 7: live off taxable money first. Don't touch retirement accounts early, 746 00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:50,640 Speaker 7: but retirement isn't lived in bullet points exactly. 747 00:43:51,080 --> 00:43:54,359 Speaker 8: Those rules can be helpful starting points, but without context 748 00:43:54,800 --> 00:43:58,719 Speaker 8: they can do real damage. A written retirement plan allows 749 00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:04,160 Speaker 8: us to test different scenarios, stress test income under market volatility, 750 00:44:04,560 --> 00:44:10,120 Speaker 8: adjust for health, longevity and lifestyle goals, coordinate income, investments 751 00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:15,800 Speaker 8: and taxes together, and most importantly, it replaces guessing with intention. 752 00:44:16,160 --> 00:44:18,759 Speaker 7: What we see over and over again is this, When 753 00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:22,480 Speaker 7: retirees understand their income order, stress goes down. They stop 754 00:44:22,520 --> 00:44:25,000 Speaker 7: wondering am I taking too much? Am I paying more 755 00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:27,399 Speaker 7: in taxes than I should? What happens when the market 756 00:44:27,480 --> 00:44:28,760 Speaker 7: drops because they. 757 00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:31,040 Speaker 8: Know there's a plan, and that plan was built to 758 00:44:31,120 --> 00:44:36,080 Speaker 8: evolve over time. That's what confidence in retirement really looks like. 759 00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:38,759 Speaker 7: If today's conversation made you realize you don't have a 760 00:44:38,800 --> 00:44:41,320 Speaker 7: clear income order, or that your plan is more of 761 00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:44,239 Speaker 7: a collection of assumptions, we'd encourage you to start with 762 00:44:44,280 --> 00:44:46,000 Speaker 7: our Safe Money Strategies Workbook. 763 00:44:46,120 --> 00:44:51,520 Speaker 8: It's complementary and it walks you through income sources, timing decisions, 764 00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:55,560 Speaker 8: and planning priorities before you make moves that. 765 00:44:55,640 --> 00:44:56,840 Speaker 2: Can't be undone. 766 00:44:56,920 --> 00:44:58,920 Speaker 7: You can request the workbook by reaching out to our 767 00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:00,840 Speaker 7: office or visit our website. 768 00:45:00,920 --> 00:45:03,640 Speaker 2: There's no obligation, just a chance to bring clarity to. 769 00:45:03,640 --> 00:45:06,960 Speaker 8: Your retirement decisions, because when it comes to retirement income, 770 00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:09,920 Speaker 8: the right border can make all the difference. 771 00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:13,279 Speaker 2: With that, I'm Greg Workman and I'm Mike du Said. 772 00:45:13,480 --> 00:45:15,480 Speaker 2: Thanks for spending part of your day with us. We'll 773 00:45:15,520 --> 00:45:16,279 Speaker 2: see you next time. 774 00:45:21,239 --> 00:45:22,280 Speaker 5: I'm Kelly Kelly. 775 00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:24,960 Speaker 4: As we start off a new year, many families are 776 00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:28,640 Speaker 4: thinking about fresh starts, not just financially, but how we 777 00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:32,279 Speaker 4: prepare the next generation for life. At Kelly Financial, our 778 00:45:32,360 --> 00:45:35,680 Speaker 4: work has always been about helping families make thoughtful long 779 00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:39,640 Speaker 4: term decisions, including how the next generation gets started. And 780 00:45:39,719 --> 00:45:43,840 Speaker 4: while all investing involves risk, including the potential loss of principle, 781 00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:47,400 Speaker 4: we believe education and good habits are the foundation for 782 00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:51,000 Speaker 4: smart choices over time. That's why we're offering Only the 783 00:45:51,040 --> 00:45:54,160 Speaker 4: Good invest Young, a book written by my son, William 784 00:45:54,239 --> 00:45:57,560 Speaker 4: Kelly Junior. It's a clear, encouraging guide to the basics 785 00:45:57,560 --> 00:46:01,239 Speaker 4: of money, responsibility and habits that matter over time. If 786 00:46:01,280 --> 00:46:04,440 Speaker 4: you have a child, a grandchild, for someone just beginning, 787 00:46:04,520 --> 00:46:07,200 Speaker 4: this is a thoughtful place to start. We're offering a 788 00:46:07,239 --> 00:46:11,320 Speaker 4: complimentary signed copy to our WRKO listeners and clients. 789 00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:14,359 Speaker 5: Call eight eight eight eight hundred and eighteen eighty one or. 790 00:46:14,360 --> 00:46:18,440 Speaker 4: Email Kelly at Kellyfinancial dot org gets a simple message 791 00:46:18,480 --> 00:46:20,359 Speaker 4: and a meaningful way to begin the year. 792 00:46:22,040 --> 00:46:28,800 Speaker 1: Joining me now is William Kelly Junior. He is obviously 793 00:46:28,840 --> 00:46:32,680 Speaker 1: from Kelly Financial Services, and as you know, normally it's 794 00:46:32,719 --> 00:46:35,720 Speaker 1: his mother who comes on Kelly Kelly to talk about 795 00:46:35,760 --> 00:46:39,920 Speaker 1: the latest that's coming from Kelly Financial Services. Today, however, 796 00:46:40,600 --> 00:46:43,879 Speaker 1: he's going to talk about his new book, Only the 797 00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:45,040 Speaker 1: Good invest Young. 798 00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:49,080 Speaker 5: William, why did you feel compelled to. 799 00:46:49,040 --> 00:46:50,880 Speaker 6: Write the book, Good morning, Jeff. 800 00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:53,279 Speaker 2: I wrote Only the Good invest Young because I kept 801 00:46:53,320 --> 00:46:55,760 Speaker 2: seeing people my age who genuinely wanted to make smart 802 00:46:55,760 --> 00:46:58,640 Speaker 2: financial decisions but didn't always know where to start or 803 00:46:58,680 --> 00:46:59,759 Speaker 2: which questions Even matter. 804 00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:02,520 Speaker 6: This book isn't about hype or shortcuts. 805 00:47:02,680 --> 00:47:07,800 Speaker 2: It's about understanding how investing really works over time, how compounding, taxes, debt, 806 00:47:07,880 --> 00:47:11,320 Speaker 2: and behavior all shape long term outcomes. I also included 807 00:47:11,360 --> 00:47:15,239 Speaker 2: perspectives from people I respect, mentors, professionals, and leaders who 808 00:47:15,320 --> 00:47:18,560 Speaker 2: shared lessons they'd wish they'd learned earlier in life. And Jeff, 809 00:47:18,600 --> 00:47:21,200 Speaker 2: you've spent years helping people think more clearly through your 810 00:47:21,239 --> 00:47:23,759 Speaker 2: work and your voice here on radio. And I want 811 00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:26,400 Speaker 2: to be clear, this isn't about telling anyone what to do. 812 00:47:26,800 --> 00:47:29,920 Speaker 2: Investing always involves risks, and like any investment, you can 813 00:47:29,960 --> 00:47:32,919 Speaker 2: lose principle. My goal was simply to help people think 814 00:47:32,960 --> 00:47:36,520 Speaker 2: more clearly, ask better questions, and build awareness before mistakes 815 00:47:36,520 --> 00:47:39,880 Speaker 2: become expensive. If you're early in your investing journey or 816 00:47:39,920 --> 00:47:42,600 Speaker 2: helping someone who is, and you like a complimentary copy 817 00:47:42,640 --> 00:47:45,359 Speaker 2: of Only the Good invest Young, you can contact us 818 00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:47,000 Speaker 2: here at Kelly Financial. 819 00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:50,000 Speaker 6: Jeff, have a great weekend and my best to the family. 820 00:47:50,200 --> 00:47:52,799 Speaker 1: Thank you, William Kelly, all the best to you and 821 00:47:52,880 --> 00:47:56,359 Speaker 1: everyone at Kelly Financial. To get a free copy of 822 00:47:56,360 --> 00:47:59,080 Speaker 1: William Kelly's book, and I urge all of you if 823 00:47:59,080 --> 00:48:02,120 Speaker 1: you can go get it, call now eight eighty eight 824 00:48:02,320 --> 00:48:06,880 Speaker 1: eight hundred eighteen eighty one eight eighty eight hundred eighteen 825 00:48:06,920 --> 00:48:11,160 Speaker 1: eighty one, or you can actually email Kelly Kelly herself 826 00:48:11,200 --> 00:48:18,000 Speaker 1: personally Kelly Kelly Financial dot org. That's Kelly Kelly Financial 827 00:48:18,640 --> 00:48:19,239 Speaker 1: dot org. 828 00:48:25,600 --> 00:48:30,960 Speaker 3: Safe Money Strategies A eight eight hundred one eight eight one. 829 00:48:32,040 --> 00:48:36,280 Speaker 4: This next reflection from Bill Kelly was recorded many years 830 00:48:36,280 --> 00:48:40,480 Speaker 4: ago during a different political season, but so much of 831 00:48:40,520 --> 00:48:45,120 Speaker 4: what he talks about still resonates today. It's about protecting 832 00:48:45,200 --> 00:48:48,760 Speaker 4: what you've worked so hard to build, keeping your moral 833 00:48:48,840 --> 00:48:53,360 Speaker 4: compass steady, and remembering that Americans have always moved forward 834 00:48:53,600 --> 00:48:57,480 Speaker 4: by working a little harder and a little better. Here's Bill. 835 00:48:58,640 --> 00:49:01,279 Speaker 6: We want to take away tis because it's bad. 836 00:49:01,320 --> 00:49:05,000 Speaker 12: It hurts people, even though the difference between the top 837 00:49:05,080 --> 00:49:08,200 Speaker 12: golfer in the world and the person who's number three 838 00:49:08,280 --> 00:49:11,400 Speaker 12: hundred on the tour is really an average of four 839 00:49:11,440 --> 00:49:13,080 Speaker 12: strokes over eighteen holes. 840 00:49:13,080 --> 00:49:13,839 Speaker 6: Can you believe that? 841 00:49:14,280 --> 00:49:16,319 Speaker 12: And it's how they match up and match play and 842 00:49:16,360 --> 00:49:20,000 Speaker 12: how people react in tournaments that make it very important 843 00:49:20,200 --> 00:49:23,000 Speaker 12: in winning. It's a razor thin margin, ladies and gentlemen, 844 00:49:23,200 --> 00:49:25,839 Speaker 12: and it's the people who save ten dollars a week 845 00:49:26,040 --> 00:49:28,440 Speaker 12: for their lifetime and they add to it when they 846 00:49:28,440 --> 00:49:30,799 Speaker 12: get raises and when they get bonuses, and when they 847 00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:34,080 Speaker 12: get Christmas money. And it's people like that. It's people 848 00:49:34,160 --> 00:49:38,160 Speaker 12: like you who save, who invest wisely, who watch their money, 849 00:49:38,440 --> 00:49:41,480 Speaker 12: and who have accumulated it that now are the target 850 00:49:41,680 --> 00:49:45,760 Speaker 12: of these massive tax increases. So there are some ways 851 00:49:45,800 --> 00:49:49,520 Speaker 12: to combat that, potential ways to save your estate from 852 00:49:49,560 --> 00:49:49,879 Speaker 12: these things. 853 00:49:49,960 --> 00:49:51,040 Speaker 6: We're very aware of those. 854 00:49:51,200 --> 00:49:54,720 Speaker 12: So it's here what we feared, losing our liberty, having 855 00:49:54,760 --> 00:49:57,879 Speaker 12: something forced down our throats by people, most of whom 856 00:49:57,920 --> 00:50:00,799 Speaker 12: have never worked a job in their life except they 857 00:50:00,960 --> 00:50:04,440 Speaker 12: have been quote unquote public servants, who have taken money, 858 00:50:04,480 --> 00:50:06,879 Speaker 12: who have outright stolen money in front of our very 859 00:50:06,920 --> 00:50:10,160 Speaker 12: own eyes, who have robbed us blind. Now, I personally 860 00:50:10,239 --> 00:50:13,919 Speaker 12: am not a tax protester. We withhold taxes at an 861 00:50:13,920 --> 00:50:17,560 Speaker 12: astounding rate, and we feel that it's our fair share. 862 00:50:17,680 --> 00:50:21,240 Speaker 12: It's America. I'm free. But it's getting to the limit, 863 00:50:21,320 --> 00:50:25,560 Speaker 12: formuladies and gentlemen. It's becoming increasingly more difficult to pay three, 864 00:50:25,760 --> 00:50:28,560 Speaker 12: four or five six thousand dollars a week in taxes. 865 00:50:28,960 --> 00:50:30,000 Speaker 6: That's a lot of money. 866 00:50:30,480 --> 00:50:32,960 Speaker 12: When I started out in this business, I think the 867 00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:36,000 Speaker 12: first year in the business, I made forty nine hundred dollars. 868 00:50:36,040 --> 00:50:38,880 Speaker 12: Then I made twelve thousand dollars. Then I think I 869 00:50:38,960 --> 00:50:42,279 Speaker 12: made thirty four thousand, sixty five thousand, and I think 870 00:50:42,320 --> 00:50:44,399 Speaker 12: I had my first one hundred thousand dollars a year 871 00:50:44,880 --> 00:50:48,760 Speaker 12: way back when in the nineties. And I've been fortunate. 872 00:50:48,800 --> 00:50:51,480 Speaker 12: Every year I have made more money. Don't ask me why, 873 00:50:51,920 --> 00:50:54,680 Speaker 12: because halfway through a lot of those years, I thought, 874 00:50:54,760 --> 00:50:57,239 Speaker 12: geez emo, I'm not going to make it this year. 875 00:50:57,400 --> 00:51:00,759 Speaker 12: This will be the year. But it's never happened. Knock 876 00:51:00,840 --> 00:51:03,359 Speaker 12: on wood. But along the way, I've had to pay 877 00:51:03,360 --> 00:51:07,800 Speaker 12: increasingly more taxes. Ladies and gentlemen, something has to be done. 878 00:51:08,480 --> 00:51:12,359 Speaker 12: You have to create a defense against this. You have 879 00:51:12,400 --> 00:51:15,560 Speaker 12: to defend your estate. How do you defend your state? 880 00:51:15,600 --> 00:51:18,480 Speaker 12: You put a moat around it, and you put eight drawbers. 881 00:51:18,480 --> 00:51:22,080 Speaker 12: Then you put barbed wire around the turrets. Then you 882 00:51:22,160 --> 00:51:24,640 Speaker 12: might want to get a pot of boiling oil. I guess, 883 00:51:24,920 --> 00:51:27,280 Speaker 12: so that when the people come to take what's yours, 884 00:51:27,680 --> 00:51:29,480 Speaker 12: they won't be able to do that. You will protect 885 00:51:29,560 --> 00:51:32,680 Speaker 12: the estate, which comes from the early European days. The 886 00:51:32,800 --> 00:51:36,200 Speaker 12: estate was the place the manor where the people live, 887 00:51:36,320 --> 00:51:39,600 Speaker 12: the propertied people. So it took a long while to 888 00:51:39,680 --> 00:51:42,960 Speaker 12: create your estate. You don't want it wiped out by 889 00:51:42,960 --> 00:51:46,360 Speaker 12: a mistake in taxation. You don't want things to happen 890 00:51:46,520 --> 00:51:49,680 Speaker 12: to spoil a great retirement. So there are many solutions, 891 00:51:49,719 --> 00:51:53,080 Speaker 12: I think, to some of these problems. Which one fits 892 00:51:53,120 --> 00:51:56,040 Speaker 12: you is for you to find out. The best way 893 00:51:56,160 --> 00:52:01,799 Speaker 12: is called eight eight hundred eighty one, eight hundred and one, 894 00:52:01,880 --> 00:52:06,240 Speaker 12: eight eighty one. And learn how you can act. Notice 895 00:52:06,280 --> 00:52:09,759 Speaker 12: we didn't say react. Learn how you can act, learn 896 00:52:09,840 --> 00:52:12,440 Speaker 12: how you can strategize, and learn how you can do 897 00:52:12,600 --> 00:52:15,800 Speaker 12: things just a little bit better. There's a little story 898 00:52:15,840 --> 00:52:18,120 Speaker 12: about doing things a little bit better. One of my 899 00:52:18,280 --> 00:52:22,280 Speaker 12: son's favorite books is Mike Mulligan and his Steam Shovel. 900 00:52:22,680 --> 00:52:25,759 Speaker 12: And his steam shovel was named Marianne. Now, back in 901 00:52:25,920 --> 00:52:29,239 Speaker 12: the early nineteen twenties nineteen thirties, believe it or not, 902 00:52:29,560 --> 00:52:33,279 Speaker 12: many of the machines the Little Engine that Could was 903 00:52:33,320 --> 00:52:37,840 Speaker 12: actually a female. Mike Mulligan's steam shovel is named Marianne, 904 00:52:38,160 --> 00:52:40,879 Speaker 12: and they would travel from town to town, and even 905 00:52:41,000 --> 00:52:44,600 Speaker 12: after steam shovels were obsolete, Mike Mulligan and mari Anne 906 00:52:44,640 --> 00:52:47,640 Speaker 12: would travel the countryside ladies and gentlemen and find work. 907 00:52:48,080 --> 00:52:50,880 Speaker 12: Now The thing about Mike Mulligan and Marianne the steam 908 00:52:50,920 --> 00:52:53,600 Speaker 12: Shovel she was read, by the way, is when they 909 00:52:53,680 --> 00:52:56,640 Speaker 12: were working, if people came to watch them, they would 910 00:52:56,719 --> 00:53:00,480 Speaker 12: work a little harder and a little better. So whenever 911 00:53:00,560 --> 00:53:02,920 Speaker 12: people would gather around when they were digging a basement 912 00:53:03,120 --> 00:53:06,680 Speaker 12: or a town hall or whatever they dug, they loved 913 00:53:06,719 --> 00:53:09,920 Speaker 12: having people watch them. They loved having people there because 914 00:53:09,960 --> 00:53:12,920 Speaker 12: they worked a little harder and a little better. So basically, 915 00:53:13,080 --> 00:53:15,960 Speaker 12: they're the opposite of our Congress, who they don't care 916 00:53:16,000 --> 00:53:18,520 Speaker 12: who's watching. They're not going to work harder, they're not 917 00:53:18,600 --> 00:53:20,279 Speaker 12: going to work better, they're going to give up. They're 918 00:53:20,320 --> 00:53:24,600 Speaker 12: going to give in to political chicanery and insider dealing. 919 00:53:25,239 --> 00:53:28,680 Speaker 12: But that's what happened with Mike Mulligan, and that's kind 920 00:53:28,719 --> 00:53:32,000 Speaker 12: of like Americans, ladies and gentlemen, when we're up against 921 00:53:32,080 --> 00:53:36,120 Speaker 12: it and we need to pull ourselves up by the bootstraps, 922 00:53:36,360 --> 00:53:38,600 Speaker 12: what do we do as a nation? We work a 923 00:53:38,719 --> 00:53:42,280 Speaker 12: little harder and a little better, especially when the world's 924 00:53:42,320 --> 00:53:45,120 Speaker 12: watching us or people are depending upon us. Now, there 925 00:53:45,160 --> 00:53:47,520 Speaker 12: seems to be a group of people that think we 926 00:53:47,680 --> 00:53:49,960 Speaker 12: can't make it. They're wrong, Ladies and gentlemen, Those are 927 00:53:49,960 --> 00:53:53,520 Speaker 12: the mocking fools. Remember, the mocking fools are telling us 928 00:53:53,600 --> 00:53:56,440 Speaker 12: we can't do it. The mocking fools are telling us 929 00:53:56,520 --> 00:53:59,440 Speaker 12: that we're racist. The mocking fools are telling us that 930 00:54:00,000 --> 00:54:03,360 Speaker 12: white people in trucks are terrorists. Those are the mocking fools. 931 00:54:03,400 --> 00:54:05,400 Speaker 12: And so how do the people in office right now 932 00:54:05,480 --> 00:54:09,560 Speaker 12: in Washington deal with us? They mock us, ladies and gentlemen. 933 00:54:09,800 --> 00:54:12,839 Speaker 12: They're mocking you. If you're a square, if you drive 934 00:54:12,920 --> 00:54:16,360 Speaker 12: a truck, if you work in construction, if you're a veteran, 935 00:54:16,840 --> 00:54:19,840 Speaker 12: if you're a retired law enforcement they're saying that you 936 00:54:20,040 --> 00:54:22,000 Speaker 12: are a potential terrorist threat. 937 00:54:22,400 --> 00:54:24,160 Speaker 6: Can you believe it? I believe it. 938 00:54:24,760 --> 00:54:27,759 Speaker 12: That's what they're thinking. What threat do you offer? The 939 00:54:27,880 --> 00:54:30,600 Speaker 12: threat that you offer is you have some kind of 940 00:54:30,640 --> 00:54:33,520 Speaker 12: a brain, ladies and gentlemen, and you know right from wrong. 941 00:54:34,120 --> 00:54:36,120 Speaker 12: Knowing right from wrong is a bad thing. It's a 942 00:54:36,280 --> 00:54:39,279 Speaker 12: dangerous thing to these people. So they want to do 943 00:54:39,440 --> 00:54:43,200 Speaker 12: something to silence you, to eradicate you, to get rid 944 00:54:43,239 --> 00:54:45,880 Speaker 12: of your sense of modesty, to get rid of your 945 00:54:45,920 --> 00:54:46,800 Speaker 12: sense of decency. 946 00:54:46,960 --> 00:54:50,360 Speaker 6: So they mock you. The mocking fools don't pull any ratings. 947 00:54:50,440 --> 00:54:51,520 Speaker 6: Nobody listens to them. 948 00:54:52,480 --> 00:54:55,399 Speaker 12: Nobody's interested in them, But they're just there to let 949 00:54:55,480 --> 00:54:58,320 Speaker 12: the people know it's just someone they can turn to, 950 00:54:58,520 --> 00:55:01,920 Speaker 12: Ladies and gentlemen. So you need to keep your compass 951 00:55:02,400 --> 00:55:05,799 Speaker 12: with you at all times. And North is still North, 952 00:55:05,880 --> 00:55:09,759 Speaker 12: ladies and gentlemen, and South is South. So keep it 953 00:55:09,840 --> 00:55:11,400 Speaker 12: in mind, ladies and gentlemen. 954 00:55:11,440 --> 00:55:12,000 Speaker 6: You are right. 955 00:55:12,440 --> 00:55:15,000 Speaker 12: There's nothing wrong with being a square. There's nothing wrong 956 00:55:15,040 --> 00:55:17,840 Speaker 12: with the Boy Scout handbook, ladies and gentlemen. I have 957 00:55:18,000 --> 00:55:21,400 Speaker 12: one from one hundred years ago, and every major politician 958 00:55:21,480 --> 00:55:25,480 Speaker 12: in America signed on to that Boy Scout Manual from 959 00:55:25,520 --> 00:55:30,280 Speaker 12: Teddy Roosevelt, past presidents, heads of large companies. They signed 960 00:55:30,440 --> 00:55:33,360 Speaker 12: that Boy Scout Manual and endorsed it. And there's a 961 00:55:33,400 --> 00:55:36,759 Speaker 12: reason for that. It's full of American civic values. It 962 00:55:36,840 --> 00:55:40,239 Speaker 12: shows people how to be great Americans, good Americans. Wait 963 00:55:40,280 --> 00:55:42,919 Speaker 12: a minute, we can't say good Americans anymore. That's a slur. 964 00:55:43,440 --> 00:55:43,880 Speaker 6: No, it's not. 965 00:55:44,920 --> 00:55:48,320 Speaker 12: We know what good Americans are, and we know what 966 00:55:48,480 --> 00:55:51,239 Speaker 12: they do and how to recognize them. And the first 967 00:55:51,320 --> 00:55:53,480 Speaker 12: thing they do is they put their hand over their 968 00:55:53,560 --> 00:55:58,279 Speaker 12: hearts and say the Pledge of allegiance straight up, and 969 00:55:58,400 --> 00:56:01,560 Speaker 12: they have no compunction about doing so. If you define 970 00:56:02,239 --> 00:56:06,080 Speaker 12: your objectives by a goal rather than by avoiding something. 971 00:56:06,560 --> 00:56:10,000 Speaker 12: Then you might find yourself having a great plan and 972 00:56:10,160 --> 00:56:12,719 Speaker 12: you might find yourself saying, well, this is how we 973 00:56:12,880 --> 00:56:13,440 Speaker 12: move forward. 974 00:56:20,360 --> 00:56:23,960 Speaker 3: We'll call Kelly Financial Services eight eight eight eight hundred 975 00:56:24,160 --> 00:56:25,359 Speaker 3: eighteen eighty one. 976 00:56:25,640 --> 00:56:30,320 Speaker 4: I'm Kelly Kelly from Kelly Financial. Whether you're in your sixties, seventies, 977 00:56:30,520 --> 00:56:33,960 Speaker 4: or eighties, financial advice is important when it comes to 978 00:56:34,120 --> 00:56:37,279 Speaker 4: preserving your nest egg. We have a free investor guide 979 00:56:37,360 --> 00:56:41,200 Speaker 4: called designing your Fiscal House to Weather the Elements, which 980 00:56:41,280 --> 00:56:44,719 Speaker 4: highlights the steps needed to build a balanced portfolio. 981 00:56:45,080 --> 00:56:46,040 Speaker 5: For the guide, call 982 00:56:46,239 --> 00:56:49,480 Speaker 4: Eight eight eight eight hundred eighteen eighty one or email 983 00:56:49,680 --> 00:56:52,000 Speaker 4: Kelly at Kellyfinancial dot org.