1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:03,680 Speaker 1: We're gonna have Zach Goodman joining us after five o'clock tonight. 2 00:00:03,720 --> 00:00:05,600 Speaker 1: He's gonna be one of the new play by voices 3 00:00:05,640 --> 00:00:07,160 Speaker 1: for the Rockies in the booth with Voice of the 4 00:00:07,240 --> 00:00:08,160 Speaker 1: Rockies Jack Corgan. 5 00:00:08,680 --> 00:00:10,399 Speaker 2: That's gonna be on Saturday Night, the Chance. 6 00:00:10,400 --> 00:00:12,880 Speaker 1: And of course you've listened to Cactus League play you've 7 00:00:12,920 --> 00:00:15,440 Speaker 1: heard some of Zach. And of course his dad, Drew 8 00:00:15,520 --> 00:00:18,279 Speaker 1: has been calling the Rockies games for the better part 9 00:00:18,280 --> 00:00:21,360 Speaker 1: of over two decades. But we're gonna hear from Zach, 10 00:00:21,400 --> 00:00:24,160 Speaker 1: who's gonna make his debut in the regular season coming 11 00:00:24,200 --> 00:00:25,880 Speaker 1: up with the Rocky Saturday Night, and we're gonna talk 12 00:00:25,880 --> 00:00:26,840 Speaker 1: to him after five o'clock. 13 00:00:26,880 --> 00:00:28,640 Speaker 2: Looking forward to that. Your chance to win. 14 00:00:29,560 --> 00:00:31,960 Speaker 1: We have two chances today, but your chance, the first 15 00:00:32,040 --> 00:00:34,600 Speaker 1: chance to win a three pack of tickets to the 16 00:00:34,680 --> 00:00:37,519 Speaker 1: Rockies home opening weekend, a pair of tickets for Friday, 17 00:00:37,600 --> 00:00:40,000 Speaker 1: Paara tickets for Saturday, pair takes for Sunday is coming 18 00:00:40,040 --> 00:00:42,240 Speaker 1: up here in a matter of moments, so be listening 19 00:00:42,240 --> 00:00:43,080 Speaker 1: for that cue call. 20 00:00:43,440 --> 00:00:44,080 Speaker 2: We'll get to it. 21 00:00:44,360 --> 00:00:47,960 Speaker 1: So Sean Payton talking about bo Nicks in one score 22 00:00:47,960 --> 00:00:51,400 Speaker 1: games now. The question was asked I imagined by a 23 00:00:51,479 --> 00:00:56,520 Speaker 1: Chicago Bears beat Person and then I kind of trimmed 24 00:00:56,520 --> 00:00:57,840 Speaker 1: this up a little bit because we don't need the 25 00:00:57,960 --> 00:00:59,920 Speaker 1: Caleb Williams poor part of this. But it was kind 26 00:00:59,920 --> 00:01:02,240 Speaker 1: of funny because they're asking, you know, Caleb Williams and 27 00:01:02,240 --> 00:01:04,480 Speaker 1: one score games, the Bonix and one score games, and 28 00:01:04,560 --> 00:01:06,479 Speaker 1: Sean kind of jokes aroun as like, well, Bo is better. 29 00:01:07,000 --> 00:01:07,600 Speaker 3: Wish he was. 30 00:01:08,520 --> 00:01:12,479 Speaker 1: But here's what Sean Payton said about Bonix's one score 31 00:01:12,560 --> 00:01:15,600 Speaker 1: game performances last year, and how much of that carries over. 32 00:01:16,280 --> 00:01:18,360 Speaker 4: You guys have heard me say this confidence can only 33 00:01:18,400 --> 00:01:20,880 Speaker 4: be born out of demonstrated ability. And so I would 34 00:01:20,920 --> 00:01:24,240 Speaker 4: ask everyone here if I said to you, Jalen and Bo, 35 00:01:24,360 --> 00:01:26,000 Speaker 4: are they more confident this year? 36 00:01:26,040 --> 00:01:26,640 Speaker 3: Absolutely. 37 00:01:27,080 --> 00:01:31,000 Speaker 4: There's nothing that says that's promised that you turn the 38 00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:34,160 Speaker 4: board upside down, you place it and you collect your pieces. 39 00:01:34,160 --> 00:01:36,240 Speaker 4: Whatever the game is that you start, you have to 40 00:01:36,280 --> 00:01:39,080 Speaker 4: start back at zero. But when you start back there, 41 00:01:39,760 --> 00:01:41,920 Speaker 4: you've got a little bit of a bank vault that 42 00:01:42,080 --> 00:01:46,360 Speaker 4: is filled with these positive experiences and if you believe 43 00:01:46,400 --> 00:01:51,760 Speaker 4: it can happen once and then and so you're a 44 00:01:51,880 --> 00:01:55,840 Speaker 4: different player at the start of this season, then you 45 00:01:55,880 --> 00:01:58,080 Speaker 4: were at the start of the other seat but the 46 00:01:58,120 --> 00:02:01,800 Speaker 4: one score games, I think it just provides you. In 47 00:02:01,840 --> 00:02:05,400 Speaker 4: the college game, they're far free, fewer of those games, 48 00:02:05,760 --> 00:02:09,200 Speaker 4: and so it provides you with this is more the norm. 49 00:02:09,720 --> 00:02:13,680 Speaker 4: We might beat down six, top six, up three tied, 50 00:02:13,720 --> 00:02:16,160 Speaker 4: it half like you get used to living. 51 00:02:15,960 --> 00:02:16,560 Speaker 3: In that world. 52 00:02:16,720 --> 00:02:19,919 Speaker 4: I think that's a big thing, especially for the quarterbacks. 53 00:02:20,520 --> 00:02:23,960 Speaker 1: So goods down there from Sean and again he's in 54 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:27,840 Speaker 1: a better position than he was last year entering the season. 55 00:02:27,880 --> 00:02:31,320 Speaker 1: I think that's that's like anything like you learn from 56 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:34,080 Speaker 1: your experiences. I think, as we were talking about both 57 00:02:34,120 --> 00:02:36,560 Speaker 1: things being true, you do start over, Like you talked 58 00:02:36,560 --> 00:02:40,600 Speaker 1: about turning the board over, the puzzle pieces over and 59 00:02:40,639 --> 00:02:44,760 Speaker 1: you start over. That's all correct, but those experiences the 60 00:02:44,880 --> 00:02:47,680 Speaker 1: muscle memory of what it feels like. The stat that 61 00:02:47,720 --> 00:02:51,239 Speaker 1: I have for you that came out via NFL researcher 62 00:02:51,480 --> 00:02:55,240 Speaker 1: on Twitter most total touchdowns when trailing by one possession 63 00:02:55,240 --> 00:03:00,079 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty five Boonex let everybody, it's sixteen of them. Now, 64 00:03:00,240 --> 00:03:03,160 Speaker 1: the Broncos were found themselves trailing in part because the 65 00:03:03,160 --> 00:03:07,120 Speaker 1: offense was what they were inconsistent. But he had more 66 00:03:07,200 --> 00:03:11,320 Speaker 1: than Caleb Williams, Baker Mayfield, Josh Allen, Matthew Stafford, Matthew Stafford, 67 00:03:11,360 --> 00:03:14,680 Speaker 1: Josh Allen, Dak Prescott all had eleven, Derek May had ten, 68 00:03:16,040 --> 00:03:19,320 Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence had nine. So my point of it is 69 00:03:19,320 --> 00:03:22,560 Speaker 1: here is it's like riding a bike like you don't 70 00:03:22,560 --> 00:03:23,880 Speaker 1: forget those portions of it. 71 00:03:23,960 --> 00:03:24,200 Speaker 2: Right. 72 00:03:24,960 --> 00:03:29,240 Speaker 1: You may not be able to recreate the same circumstances 73 00:03:29,240 --> 00:03:31,720 Speaker 1: that led you to a winning eleven one score games, 74 00:03:32,480 --> 00:03:37,440 Speaker 1: but simultaneously the awareness and ability to find that within 75 00:03:37,480 --> 00:03:39,600 Speaker 1: yourself to come up clutch. 76 00:03:40,080 --> 00:03:41,560 Speaker 2: I don't think that really goes away. 77 00:03:41,600 --> 00:03:45,080 Speaker 1: So I am a believer, if you will, in the 78 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:49,240 Speaker 1: Broncos and specifically Bonux's ability to recreate some of those 79 00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:50,920 Speaker 1: scenarios if they absolutely need them. 80 00:03:51,600 --> 00:03:55,800 Speaker 3: I'm laughing because Ryan, I hate to say it. I 81 00:03:55,880 --> 00:03:59,080 Speaker 3: agree with you. I mean the idea, and you can 82 00:03:59,120 --> 00:03:59,880 Speaker 3: bookmark that. 83 00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:03,480 Speaker 5: If you want to, just for a short period of 84 00:04:03,560 --> 00:04:06,320 Speaker 5: time be what I'm about to say. It's about to 85 00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:09,280 Speaker 5: change everything I just said. I mean the whole fact 86 00:04:09,280 --> 00:04:12,920 Speaker 5: that Bowl has been able to amass the record he's 87 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:16,040 Speaker 5: had over those quarterbacks as far as eleven to one 88 00:04:16,040 --> 00:04:19,040 Speaker 5: score games. Right, And you're right, it is part of 89 00:04:19,120 --> 00:04:21,919 Speaker 5: muscle memory. It builds a lot of confidence because you 90 00:04:21,960 --> 00:04:24,479 Speaker 5: were a player, you went out there, you made those 91 00:04:25,160 --> 00:04:28,480 Speaker 5: key plays and pivotal moments. But the reason why I 92 00:04:28,520 --> 00:04:32,000 Speaker 5: feel is though Bow can possibly duplicate that same performance. 93 00:04:32,560 --> 00:04:35,640 Speaker 3: You know why, That damn defense. 94 00:04:36,040 --> 00:04:38,160 Speaker 5: And when you look at some of those other quarterbacks 95 00:04:38,160 --> 00:04:40,960 Speaker 5: that you name, it's part and parcel. You need to 96 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:43,080 Speaker 5: make sure that you have a decent running game in 97 00:04:43,080 --> 00:04:46,880 Speaker 5: your defense can set you up where they can force turnovers, 98 00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:50,440 Speaker 5: get three and outs, get that opposing quarterback off the 99 00:04:50,440 --> 00:04:54,080 Speaker 5: field to give you more opportunities. So yeah, Bow should 100 00:04:54,080 --> 00:04:57,000 Speaker 5: definitely walk in those shoes because he did that as 101 00:04:57,000 --> 00:04:58,799 Speaker 5: a starting quarterback of the Denver Broncos. 102 00:04:59,000 --> 00:05:02,560 Speaker 3: But also knowing how how you were able to do that, and. 103 00:05:02,440 --> 00:05:04,000 Speaker 5: That's why I thought it was so important with the 104 00:05:04,040 --> 00:05:07,080 Speaker 5: Broncos trying to keep their defense intact by bringing Alex 105 00:05:07,120 --> 00:05:11,239 Speaker 5: Singleton and Justin Chernard back, so all of those things 106 00:05:12,160 --> 00:05:14,640 Speaker 5: are going to play to do this a huge factor. 107 00:05:14,720 --> 00:05:18,039 Speaker 5: You know why he plays it because, like you, he 108 00:05:18,160 --> 00:05:22,000 Speaker 5: won't say it, but this is Grant's way of actually saying, 109 00:05:23,640 --> 00:05:24,479 Speaker 5: I did this whole. 110 00:05:24,320 --> 00:05:28,760 Speaker 1: Thing about Bow knicks in one score games, sixteen touchdowns. 111 00:05:28,320 --> 00:05:31,440 Speaker 2: Yep, more than any other quarterback in the league last year. 112 00:05:31,560 --> 00:05:33,160 Speaker 3: Huh. And and then you just. 113 00:05:33,080 --> 00:05:34,080 Speaker 2: Want to talk about the defense. 114 00:05:34,080 --> 00:05:35,440 Speaker 5: Oh no, no, no, no, no, no, no, it's not me 115 00:05:35,600 --> 00:05:37,600 Speaker 5: just talking about the defense, because if you're going to 116 00:05:37,680 --> 00:05:40,680 Speaker 5: talk about the fact of what Bow was able to do, 117 00:05:40,720 --> 00:05:42,400 Speaker 5: you don't have to go man, no, no, no, no, I'm 118 00:05:42,400 --> 00:05:43,840 Speaker 5: not letting it go. If you can, free to forget, 119 00:05:43,839 --> 00:05:47,000 Speaker 5: forget that, because you said to yourself, while those numbers 120 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:49,599 Speaker 5: that Bow actually put up, it was astonishing based on 121 00:05:49,640 --> 00:05:52,200 Speaker 5: how the offense was playing. And in order for him 122 00:05:52,240 --> 00:05:56,040 Speaker 5: to be in those eleven one score games, someone had 123 00:05:56,040 --> 00:05:58,400 Speaker 5: to make it possible, Like someone had to make a 124 00:05:58,440 --> 00:06:00,280 Speaker 5: play on the offense. 125 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:02,320 Speaker 3: Nine times out of ten it was number ten. 126 00:06:02,680 --> 00:06:04,480 Speaker 5: But in order to put him in that position and 127 00:06:04,560 --> 00:06:06,880 Speaker 5: set him up, the defense had to get a stop, 128 00:06:07,839 --> 00:06:09,120 Speaker 5: did they not, Ryan. 129 00:06:09,040 --> 00:06:11,279 Speaker 2: I mean, it's a team game, that's right. 130 00:06:12,080 --> 00:06:13,880 Speaker 5: Guess what you did when you open it up and 131 00:06:13,920 --> 00:06:15,000 Speaker 5: you talk about the stats. 132 00:06:15,240 --> 00:06:17,680 Speaker 3: You just started off talking about team stats. 133 00:06:18,080 --> 00:06:21,440 Speaker 5: You start off talking about what exactly the quarterback and 134 00:06:21,560 --> 00:06:22,040 Speaker 5: the offense. 135 00:06:22,360 --> 00:06:27,560 Speaker 3: And I'm here to bring balance to the four. Yes, 136 00:06:27,640 --> 00:06:29,080 Speaker 3: I'm here to bring balance to the force. 137 00:06:29,560 --> 00:06:31,840 Speaker 2: Yes, that's what we call you sif yes, No, No. 138 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:34,839 Speaker 1: The thing about it is is we can talk about 139 00:06:34,839 --> 00:06:37,200 Speaker 1: the defense, and I'm happy to talk about the defense. 140 00:06:37,200 --> 00:06:38,760 Speaker 2: In fact, we're gonna talk about Joel's come up here 141 00:06:38,760 --> 00:06:38,919 Speaker 2: in just. 142 00:06:38,880 --> 00:06:40,760 Speaker 1: A little bit. I want to talk about the defense. 143 00:06:41,480 --> 00:06:43,760 Speaker 1: It's okay. And I know this is very difficult for 144 00:06:43,760 --> 00:06:46,080 Speaker 1: you to hear. It's not but it's okay to have. 145 00:06:47,200 --> 00:06:48,919 Speaker 1: Right now, we're gonna talk about the offense, and you know, 146 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:51,000 Speaker 1: in a little bit equal time, I will talk about 147 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:51,800 Speaker 1: the defense. 148 00:06:51,480 --> 00:06:54,080 Speaker 2: But I will give you full time to these things. 149 00:06:54,279 --> 00:06:55,760 Speaker 2: But in this case, this. 150 00:06:55,720 --> 00:06:58,400 Speaker 1: Situation, I think it's okay I talk about bulls that 151 00:06:58,520 --> 00:06:58,920 Speaker 1: the offense. 152 00:06:59,040 --> 00:06:59,640 Speaker 3: I can't do that. 153 00:06:59,680 --> 00:07:02,640 Speaker 5: This is like talking about making sandwiches and you all 154 00:07:02,720 --> 00:07:03,920 Speaker 5: always talk about peanut butter. 155 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:06,520 Speaker 3: It's like, no, I mean to make a great sandwich, 156 00:07:06,760 --> 00:07:07,480 Speaker 3: you need jelly. 157 00:07:07,680 --> 00:07:09,039 Speaker 2: Some people don't like jelly. 158 00:07:09,160 --> 00:07:12,040 Speaker 5: That's the problem. But I'm gonna talk about a great sandwich. 159 00:07:12,120 --> 00:07:13,640 Speaker 5: You need peanut butter and jelly. 160 00:07:13,840 --> 00:07:15,640 Speaker 1: So if I was talking about it again, this is 161 00:07:15,640 --> 00:07:17,840 Speaker 1: a terrible analogy, but I'll roll with this because it's 162 00:07:17,880 --> 00:07:20,080 Speaker 1: better than the other one. If I wanted to talk 163 00:07:20,120 --> 00:07:23,920 Speaker 1: about what kinds of peanut butter, you would be like, nah, 164 00:07:24,200 --> 00:07:25,480 Speaker 1: we should be talking about jelly. 165 00:07:25,640 --> 00:07:28,880 Speaker 2: Like no like crunchy, like honey, do you like? 166 00:07:29,080 --> 00:07:29,920 Speaker 3: Do you like shift? 167 00:07:30,320 --> 00:07:34,600 Speaker 2: Do you like? We gotta talk about jelly? 168 00:07:34,760 --> 00:07:36,600 Speaker 5: No, if you're going to talk about peanut butter, to 169 00:07:36,720 --> 00:07:40,320 Speaker 5: use your really enogy, I would say, if we're gonna 170 00:07:40,360 --> 00:07:43,000 Speaker 5: do that is a cream a crunchy se. 171 00:07:43,160 --> 00:07:45,680 Speaker 2: No, but your analogy is like you no, No, tell me. 172 00:07:45,600 --> 00:07:47,720 Speaker 3: What my analogy is. I already gave me you mind. 173 00:07:48,320 --> 00:07:50,280 Speaker 3: Peanut butter, jelly, that's what it is. 174 00:07:50,320 --> 00:07:53,600 Speaker 5: If you want to talk peanut butter, it's smooth and crunchy. 175 00:07:53,720 --> 00:07:54,120 Speaker 3: There it is. 176 00:07:54,160 --> 00:07:57,040 Speaker 2: It's actually a pretty good pick, exactly. It's hard to argue. 177 00:07:57,360 --> 00:07:59,160 Speaker 3: You can't say, you can't fight against that one. 178 00:07:59,480 --> 00:08:02,400 Speaker 1: Well, I actually got you on topic, all right, Number 179 00:08:02,640 --> 00:08:06,080 Speaker 1: seven seven Right now caller seven three three seven one 180 00:08:06,120 --> 00:08:08,680 Speaker 1: three eighty five eighty five. Because the Rocky is gonna 181 00:08:08,680 --> 00:08:12,320 Speaker 1: play their seventh game coming up on Friday, Caller seven 182 00:08:12,800 --> 00:08:15,360 Speaker 1: is gonna win a pair of tickets to the Rockies 183 00:08:15,480 --> 00:08:20,320 Speaker 1: opening weekend series against the Phillies Friday, Saturday and Sunday 184 00:08:20,600 --> 00:08:23,800 Speaker 1: at Course Field. Kaway is also giving away weekend pairs 185 00:08:23,840 --> 00:08:26,440 Speaker 1: on our Instagram and x pages, just so you guys know. 186 00:08:26,680 --> 00:08:28,360 Speaker 2: So that's the only place you can win. But calling 187 00:08:28,480 --> 00:08:30,080 Speaker 2: River seven three three seven. 188 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:32,160 Speaker 1: Three eighty five eighty five, you're gonna win a pair 189 00:08:32,400 --> 00:08:34,480 Speaker 1: of tickets to Friday, a pair of tickets Saturday, and 190 00:08:34,480 --> 00:08:35,079 Speaker 1: a pair of tickets. 191 00:08:35,160 --> 00:08:36,920 Speaker 2: It's a Sunday's home opening weekend. 192 00:08:37,000 --> 00:08:38,920 Speaker 1: And we're gonna give away another one of these packages 193 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:40,120 Speaker 1: a little bit later on. 194 00:08:45,360 --> 00:08:47,320 Speaker 3: So Dave's not gonna talk about the defense. 195 00:08:47,559 --> 00:08:49,319 Speaker 1: I just say, like in that clip, as he's talking 196 00:08:49,360 --> 00:08:51,720 Speaker 1: about bo Nick's making a play, he didn't take a 197 00:08:51,720 --> 00:08:53,920 Speaker 1: beat to say, and the defense has been great today. 198 00:08:53,960 --> 00:08:57,120 Speaker 5: Because the defense wasn't on the field. Bowl was exhibiting 199 00:08:57,160 --> 00:09:00,439 Speaker 5: his or displaying his athleticism on the field, there was 200 00:09:00,480 --> 00:09:01,800 Speaker 5: no room to talk about the defense. 201 00:09:01,840 --> 00:09:03,920 Speaker 1: But it's like it's almost as if you can talk 202 00:09:03,960 --> 00:09:06,360 Speaker 1: about one thing happening at a time. 203 00:09:06,760 --> 00:09:08,199 Speaker 3: You can. 204 00:09:09,520 --> 00:09:12,800 Speaker 5: I mean, it's like, I mean you can walk into gum, right, 205 00:09:13,559 --> 00:09:14,160 Speaker 5: can you? 206 00:09:14,200 --> 00:09:15,760 Speaker 3: Can? You rub your stomach and pat your head? 207 00:09:16,200 --> 00:09:19,880 Speaker 2: You cannot physically cannot you can't. 208 00:09:20,200 --> 00:09:21,720 Speaker 3: No, I want to see it, my. 209 00:09:21,720 --> 00:09:24,400 Speaker 2: God, I'm not going to I just told you can't try. 210 00:09:25,360 --> 00:09:27,599 Speaker 3: Ryan, Ryan, this is not American. 211 00:09:27,920 --> 00:09:30,920 Speaker 5: This is America, right, So I want you to try 212 00:09:31,360 --> 00:09:33,640 Speaker 5: and and and and and in America is a can 213 00:09:33,800 --> 00:09:36,559 Speaker 5: so I want you American, let me see you try. 214 00:09:36,400 --> 00:09:40,319 Speaker 1: On the text line here, people have asked us several 215 00:09:40,360 --> 00:09:42,240 Speaker 1: times about the Aaron Rodgers, the Broncos. No listen, we 216 00:09:42,280 --> 00:09:43,920 Speaker 1: talked about this a bit in the first hour, but. 217 00:09:43,720 --> 00:09:44,600 Speaker 2: But for a moment. 218 00:09:44,880 --> 00:09:48,200 Speaker 1: So this is Mike Florio with Pro Football Talk, and 219 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:50,520 Speaker 1: there's quite a bit of speculation in this article that 220 00:09:50,520 --> 00:09:52,160 Speaker 1: he put out this morning. And once again a lot 221 00:09:52,160 --> 00:09:54,160 Speaker 1: of people just thought this was an April Fools joke 222 00:09:54,200 --> 00:09:55,000 Speaker 1: from Mike Florio. 223 00:09:55,600 --> 00:10:00,160 Speaker 2: But he is hearing and I look the way this 224 00:10:00,240 --> 00:10:00,720 Speaker 2: is couched. 225 00:10:01,320 --> 00:10:05,079 Speaker 1: There's talk of the Broncos possibly bringing in Rogers for 226 00:10:05,200 --> 00:10:09,440 Speaker 1: a visit. That is not definitive anything. But he says 227 00:10:09,480 --> 00:10:12,040 Speaker 1: that as the motivation comes from the possibility that Curz 228 00:10:12,080 --> 00:10:13,960 Speaker 1: starter Bonix won't be fully and completely back to one 229 00:10:14,040 --> 00:10:15,920 Speaker 1: hundred percent of the week one well's a round and 230 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:18,320 Speaker 1: this and he acknowledges despite the fact that Sean Payton, 231 00:10:18,360 --> 00:10:20,160 Speaker 1: George Payton as well as Great pinter Val said that 232 00:10:20,240 --> 00:10:21,480 Speaker 1: he is ahead of schedule. 233 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:23,800 Speaker 2: So Mike Florio hearing different. 234 00:10:25,040 --> 00:10:28,960 Speaker 1: Is certainly adding ways to get out of this entire 235 00:10:29,120 --> 00:10:32,680 Speaker 1: conversation with possibility. You know, we're adding words like possibly 236 00:10:32,960 --> 00:10:36,040 Speaker 1: it could be along with it, both of us think 237 00:10:36,080 --> 00:10:39,320 Speaker 1: this is nonsense. If he didn't in the midst of 238 00:10:39,320 --> 00:10:41,720 Speaker 1: the article say this is not an April fool's joke, 239 00:10:41,960 --> 00:10:43,280 Speaker 1: I literally would have thought it was. 240 00:10:43,840 --> 00:10:45,920 Speaker 5: Well listen, man, I have to check this out. But 241 00:10:46,000 --> 00:10:49,200 Speaker 5: someone just send this to me say that the Florio 242 00:10:49,360 --> 00:10:51,280 Speaker 5: is kind of doubling down on this, like there must 243 00:10:51,320 --> 00:10:53,440 Speaker 5: be a twelve minute video on YouTube about it. 244 00:10:53,760 --> 00:10:56,200 Speaker 3: But I have to go back and check this out. 245 00:10:56,280 --> 00:10:59,800 Speaker 5: But here's what someone just texted me was that here's 246 00:10:59,840 --> 00:11:02,720 Speaker 5: a few reasons why Florio has said what he said, 247 00:11:03,080 --> 00:11:05,600 Speaker 5: friction between Bo and Sean from the end of the season, 248 00:11:06,920 --> 00:11:09,080 Speaker 5: Sean paydon his Hall of Fame stake because we know 249 00:11:09,640 --> 00:11:11,960 Speaker 5: Sean will be attimand to do something that no of 250 00:11:11,960 --> 00:11:15,600 Speaker 5: the coach has ever done in Leak history. And there's 251 00:11:15,600 --> 00:11:17,640 Speaker 5: some other things in here. But I'm gonna go back 252 00:11:17,640 --> 00:11:19,240 Speaker 5: and I'm gonna, you know, take a look at that. 253 00:11:20,280 --> 00:11:22,320 Speaker 5: But once again, I know this is the era of 254 00:11:22,360 --> 00:11:25,400 Speaker 5: time where it's a slow media cycle and individual comes 255 00:11:25,480 --> 00:11:28,320 Speaker 5: up with all sorts of things to kind of get 256 00:11:28,360 --> 00:11:29,840 Speaker 5: themselves and their show going. 257 00:11:29,960 --> 00:11:31,520 Speaker 3: But it's going to be. 258 00:11:32,880 --> 00:11:37,560 Speaker 5: Interesting to see how long Florio actually sticks to this because, 259 00:11:37,640 --> 00:11:39,560 Speaker 5: like you said, I mean when it first then to me, 260 00:11:39,679 --> 00:11:42,120 Speaker 5: I was like, oh, yeah, this is April Fools for real. 261 00:11:42,559 --> 00:11:45,319 Speaker 5: But it seemed as though Florio is really pushing this 262 00:11:45,400 --> 00:11:46,679 Speaker 5: ship to the center to tape on. 263 00:11:46,640 --> 00:11:49,360 Speaker 2: This well, and I think you said it perfectly. 264 00:11:49,360 --> 00:11:52,280 Speaker 1: It's that time of year where there's absence of a 265 00:11:52,280 --> 00:11:56,160 Speaker 1: lot of other things going on. So I'd say that 266 00:11:56,520 --> 00:11:58,760 Speaker 1: if it hadn't been and we more or less intimated 267 00:11:58,760 --> 00:12:01,000 Speaker 1: this in the first hour, if it hadn't in for 268 00:12:01,800 --> 00:12:07,720 Speaker 1: the very direct approach by Sean, George and Greg in 269 00:12:08,040 --> 00:12:12,080 Speaker 1: their disclosure of Bonix's injury and where he's at in 270 00:12:12,120 --> 00:12:15,960 Speaker 1: that process, then I think we could use this information 271 00:12:16,040 --> 00:12:19,680 Speaker 1: from Mike Florio and draw our own conclusions. But once 272 00:12:19,720 --> 00:12:24,280 Speaker 1: again there's some leaps here, and you mentioned it. He says, well, 273 00:12:24,320 --> 00:12:26,160 Speaker 1: Sean wants to be the first coach in history to 274 00:12:26,200 --> 00:12:29,880 Speaker 1: be able to win a multiple teams win with multiple teams, 275 00:12:30,040 --> 00:12:31,920 Speaker 1: and again that's where this is ultimately tied to. I 276 00:12:31,960 --> 00:12:33,720 Speaker 1: don't even think Aaron Rodgers would be the best option 277 00:12:33,800 --> 00:12:35,880 Speaker 1: for you, by the way, I do think there'd be 278 00:12:35,920 --> 00:12:38,760 Speaker 1: other ways to explore what you could do a quarterback, 279 00:12:38,880 --> 00:12:41,040 Speaker 1: and that would be also assuming that Bonix would be 280 00:12:41,040 --> 00:12:43,360 Speaker 1: out for longer than just week one, which I don't 281 00:12:43,360 --> 00:12:45,800 Speaker 1: think is not going to be. But I'm just saying, like, 282 00:12:45,920 --> 00:12:49,440 Speaker 1: if it's like a Patrick Mahomes situation, right, there'd be 283 00:12:49,440 --> 00:12:52,079 Speaker 1: other quarterbacks I would consider before I'd be considered airon. 284 00:12:52,360 --> 00:12:55,560 Speaker 5: That's a huge ten four hat theory because what it 285 00:12:55,600 --> 00:12:59,320 Speaker 5: suggests is that the way that Florio is kind of 286 00:12:59,320 --> 00:13:02,960 Speaker 5: pushing this out, that everything that we've heard about Bow's 287 00:13:03,240 --> 00:13:06,080 Speaker 5: foot proceed it make you believe that it is not 288 00:13:06,120 --> 00:13:08,480 Speaker 5: where it actually needs to be. But I still feel 289 00:13:08,480 --> 00:13:10,640 Speaker 5: as oh, I mean, I know, as coach speak whatever, 290 00:13:10,679 --> 00:13:13,480 Speaker 5: but I'm like, why would three individuals from the Broncos organization, 291 00:13:14,760 --> 00:13:17,280 Speaker 5: I mean, go on record or not be truthful? 292 00:13:17,400 --> 00:13:19,439 Speaker 1: Yeah, they could just say nothing, say we don't talk 293 00:13:19,440 --> 00:13:20,199 Speaker 1: about it exactly. 294 00:13:26,120 --> 00:13:27,760 Speaker 2: You're winning us here at the top of the hour, he's. 295 00:13:27,679 --> 00:13:30,640 Speaker 1: Going to be in the booth with Jack Corgan starting 296 00:13:30,640 --> 00:13:34,040 Speaker 1: on Saturday nights. Congratulations to Zach, who, of course his 297 00:13:34,080 --> 00:13:36,480 Speaker 1: father Drew Goodman, is calling Rockies games for the last 298 00:13:36,480 --> 00:13:40,240 Speaker 1: twenty four years. 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We're gonna have 310 00:14:08,960 --> 00:14:11,160 Speaker 1: that contest rolling for you as well. 311 00:14:11,200 --> 00:14:14,360 Speaker 2: All right, So I gotta I gotta ask you about 312 00:14:14,400 --> 00:14:15,839 Speaker 2: this uh joon Alice thing. 313 00:14:16,520 --> 00:14:18,680 Speaker 1: We're we're sort of debating the finer points of it, 314 00:14:18,720 --> 00:14:24,080 Speaker 1: and Nick Benito has chimed in now on Twitter. He 315 00:14:24,120 --> 00:14:27,160 Speaker 1: says that Jonah is the most versatile player in football. 316 00:14:27,160 --> 00:14:29,680 Speaker 1: I have no doubt he will make plays no matter 317 00:14:29,720 --> 00:14:32,960 Speaker 1: where he is lined up. All right, So we found 318 00:14:32,960 --> 00:14:36,560 Speaker 1: out yesterday from Sean Payton that, well, first of all, 319 00:14:36,680 --> 00:14:38,200 Speaker 1: just plays sound. He said this was he was asked 320 00:14:38,200 --> 00:14:40,720 Speaker 1: about bringing back Alex Singleton and Justice or not, and 321 00:14:40,720 --> 00:14:42,080 Speaker 1: he offered this about Joon Alice. 322 00:14:42,280 --> 00:14:43,760 Speaker 4: We knew what would take a little bit of time 323 00:14:43,800 --> 00:14:48,480 Speaker 4: with alex and and justin. You know there's you're gonna see. 324 00:14:48,920 --> 00:14:53,000 Speaker 4: Ellis takes some snaps inside. That's something we've discussed relative 325 00:14:53,040 --> 00:14:55,920 Speaker 4: to our depth with the edge and then we'll see 326 00:14:55,920 --> 00:15:00,920 Speaker 4: where that goes during the draft. But those aren't fun 327 00:15:01,680 --> 00:15:04,520 Speaker 4: when you re sign your own players. And I understand, 328 00:15:05,240 --> 00:15:07,960 Speaker 4: but when we look at the puzzle, you have to 329 00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:11,320 Speaker 4: take the red magnets that are UFAs and put them 330 00:15:11,520 --> 00:15:14,360 Speaker 4: off the depth chart and then begin to address the 331 00:15:14,440 --> 00:15:15,440 Speaker 4: must needs and wants. 332 00:15:15,800 --> 00:15:18,200 Speaker 1: And part of his discussion of all of this, and 333 00:15:18,920 --> 00:15:22,120 Speaker 1: I would say he's defensive, but he he kept framing 334 00:15:22,200 --> 00:15:24,560 Speaker 1: things in well, we know our I mean, we know 335 00:15:24,600 --> 00:15:28,120 Speaker 1: our players, and we looked at those players relative to 336 00:15:28,840 --> 00:15:31,760 Speaker 1: the rest of the free agents. And when you compare 337 00:15:31,880 --> 00:15:33,760 Speaker 1: the guys that you know versus the other free agents, 338 00:15:33,800 --> 00:15:35,880 Speaker 1: which is more or less what we thought was the case. Anyways, 339 00:15:35,960 --> 00:15:38,640 Speaker 1: when they brought back the seventeen guys, when you kept 340 00:15:38,640 --> 00:15:43,000 Speaker 1: bringing bad guys, you know, we say it's probably relative 341 00:15:43,040 --> 00:15:47,760 Speaker 1: to the players in free agency and what you think 342 00:15:47,800 --> 00:15:50,200 Speaker 1: they are and more specifically, what they're going to cost 343 00:15:50,240 --> 00:15:53,520 Speaker 1: you to acquire them. One more here and then I 344 00:15:53,560 --> 00:15:56,240 Speaker 1: want to get your thoughts. So then a follow up, 345 00:15:56,480 --> 00:15:59,640 Speaker 1: I think was Andrew Mason, which love Mace followed up 346 00:15:59,640 --> 00:16:02,360 Speaker 1: and asked, Okay, hey, you just mentioned Joan Ellison inside linebacker. 347 00:16:02,360 --> 00:16:03,240 Speaker 2: Why are we doing this. 348 00:16:03,880 --> 00:16:08,200 Speaker 4: It's a position where where we're wanting I had as 349 00:16:08,320 --> 00:16:12,160 Speaker 4: I drafted his brother. The same thing happened with Zach Bahn, 350 00:16:12,280 --> 00:16:14,760 Speaker 4: only we couldn't get Zach Bond on the field. 351 00:16:14,800 --> 00:16:16,040 Speaker 3: Now Philadelphia managed to. 352 00:16:16,720 --> 00:16:20,160 Speaker 4: It was really looking at your assets, and we know 353 00:16:20,240 --> 00:16:23,640 Speaker 4: he's smart and tough, he's got all the and so 354 00:16:23,720 --> 00:16:27,320 Speaker 4: sometimes that inside backer position, you know, one of the 355 00:16:27,320 --> 00:16:30,840 Speaker 4: best in our league at San Francisco, Fred Warner, you 356 00:16:30,880 --> 00:16:34,280 Speaker 4: saw him play more, you know, out in space outside 357 00:16:34,280 --> 00:16:38,160 Speaker 4: backer and then that so sometimes you have to look 358 00:16:38,200 --> 00:16:41,640 Speaker 4: at the skill set and then project where you think 359 00:16:41,640 --> 00:16:45,200 Speaker 4: it can go and your depth on the edge that 360 00:16:45,280 --> 00:16:48,240 Speaker 4: allows you to do something like that. And so we'll 361 00:16:48,240 --> 00:16:49,560 Speaker 4: have a chance to visit with him on that. 362 00:16:49,880 --> 00:16:51,320 Speaker 2: I mean, it is a combination of both. 363 00:16:51,480 --> 00:16:54,800 Speaker 1: Right, the screams to me, and I said this today yesterday, 364 00:16:54,880 --> 00:16:57,360 Speaker 1: this screams to me, they'd like to get ke Robinson 365 00:16:57,400 --> 00:16:57,960 Speaker 1: some more run. 366 00:16:58,440 --> 00:16:59,320 Speaker 2: That's what this tells me. 367 00:16:59,400 --> 00:17:01,920 Speaker 1: Because you had George Peyton right after the season telling 368 00:17:01,920 --> 00:17:04,760 Speaker 1: everybody that Ke Robinson has more the most upside of 369 00:17:04,760 --> 00:17:06,000 Speaker 1: the entire draft class. 370 00:17:06,400 --> 00:17:07,360 Speaker 2: That's a hell of a statement. 371 00:17:07,960 --> 00:17:09,720 Speaker 1: So if you feel that way about qu Robinson, you 372 00:17:09,760 --> 00:17:11,399 Speaker 1: want to get him some more opportunities in the field, 373 00:17:11,440 --> 00:17:14,199 Speaker 1: which I'm all about. Then you've got to figure out 374 00:17:14,200 --> 00:17:15,640 Speaker 1: what you're gonna do with Joe Ellis hoither you trade 375 00:17:15,680 --> 00:17:16,840 Speaker 1: him or you find a way to put up playm 376 00:17:16,880 --> 00:17:19,600 Speaker 1: at other positions. And also, and you could correct me 377 00:17:19,600 --> 00:17:23,639 Speaker 1: if I'm wrong on this, is this had anything to 378 00:17:23,680 --> 00:17:28,119 Speaker 1: do with his health, Like will he maybe have a 379 00:17:28,160 --> 00:17:30,520 Speaker 1: little less wear and tear? And I'm asking genuinely, will 380 00:17:30,520 --> 00:17:33,919 Speaker 1: he have less wear and tearror as an off the 381 00:17:33,960 --> 00:17:38,280 Speaker 1: ball linebacker versus coming down field off the edge? 382 00:17:39,280 --> 00:17:42,679 Speaker 5: No, I would say that, Well, first and foremost, injuries 383 00:17:42,720 --> 00:17:44,280 Speaker 5: can take place at any time, no matter what you're 384 00:17:44,320 --> 00:17:44,879 Speaker 5: own care. 385 00:17:44,920 --> 00:17:47,360 Speaker 1: But you know he dealt with that last year and right, 386 00:17:47,400 --> 00:17:49,240 Speaker 1: But I mean that can happen anywhere. 387 00:17:49,320 --> 00:17:53,200 Speaker 5: Sure, going to inside linebacker, you're going to be expected 388 00:17:53,280 --> 00:17:56,400 Speaker 5: to take on the blockers, right, and you don't rant 389 00:17:56,440 --> 00:17:59,639 Speaker 5: as much ISO as they ran. Maybe back when I play, well, 390 00:17:59,680 --> 00:18:04,200 Speaker 5: you still coming downhill right and being on the ball, guy, 391 00:18:04,800 --> 00:18:07,520 Speaker 5: you're just facing maybe a tackle you may face a 392 00:18:07,600 --> 00:18:09,359 Speaker 5: pulling guard. If you know how to fit up on 393 00:18:09,400 --> 00:18:12,000 Speaker 5: that guy, you'll be okay. But usually when you look 394 00:18:12,040 --> 00:18:15,280 Speaker 5: at the position, it's like get up the field, make 395 00:18:15,320 --> 00:18:18,239 Speaker 5: an impact on the quarterback, or be solid as far 396 00:18:18,240 --> 00:18:19,400 Speaker 5: as setting the edge on the run. 397 00:18:19,680 --> 00:18:21,360 Speaker 3: When you move to a middle. 398 00:18:21,080 --> 00:18:25,600 Speaker 5: Inside linebacker situation, it's entirely different. This is probably one 399 00:18:25,600 --> 00:18:28,520 Speaker 5: of the reasons that, other than injury, that we haven't 400 00:18:28,560 --> 00:18:32,280 Speaker 5: really seen Drew Sanders excel because you just can't put 401 00:18:32,320 --> 00:18:34,560 Speaker 5: someone and say well, we're gonna make you an off 402 00:18:34,600 --> 00:18:35,560 Speaker 5: the ball linebacker. 403 00:18:35,760 --> 00:18:38,520 Speaker 3: Here's what I would say when you look at Jonah. 404 00:18:38,240 --> 00:18:41,960 Speaker 5: Ellis great pedigree, his brother Kayton. There's so many of 405 00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:45,440 Speaker 5: those brothers whose eldis who I played with their dad. 406 00:18:46,359 --> 00:18:47,280 Speaker 3: Very talented group. 407 00:18:47,800 --> 00:18:51,240 Speaker 5: But it's going to come down to how well can 408 00:18:51,359 --> 00:18:54,840 Speaker 5: Jonah actually adapt to what he's going to have to do, 409 00:18:54,920 --> 00:18:57,640 Speaker 5: because I can tell you I've been in that situation. 410 00:18:57,720 --> 00:19:00,320 Speaker 5: When you go from twelve to fourteen to now playing 411 00:19:00,320 --> 00:19:03,119 Speaker 5: inside the box, you need to be able to know 412 00:19:03,160 --> 00:19:06,479 Speaker 5: how to read run, fits vere, blot's guard, pull all 413 00:19:06,520 --> 00:19:08,680 Speaker 5: of those things. Because you know it sounds like coach 414 00:19:08,720 --> 00:19:10,000 Speaker 5: speak way coach would say, well. 415 00:19:09,920 --> 00:19:11,680 Speaker 3: Read the triangle. What do you see in the triangle 416 00:19:12,280 --> 00:19:15,119 Speaker 3: the coacher you are to the ball, the faster you 417 00:19:15,200 --> 00:19:15,920 Speaker 3: have to be. 418 00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:18,600 Speaker 5: With as far as reaction and getting yourself in the 419 00:19:18,680 --> 00:19:21,800 Speaker 5: right place, and one false step with a lot of 420 00:19:21,800 --> 00:19:24,680 Speaker 5: that guard who's gonna combo block and what I mean 421 00:19:24,680 --> 00:19:26,879 Speaker 5: by that, he's gonna You're gonna have two offices of 422 00:19:26,880 --> 00:19:28,560 Speaker 5: the line and they're gonna double on one guy and 423 00:19:28,600 --> 00:19:30,960 Speaker 5: they're gonna climb to the second level. If you can't 424 00:19:31,000 --> 00:19:32,959 Speaker 5: read it, you can't fight, and you can't get off it. 425 00:19:33,200 --> 00:19:35,840 Speaker 3: Now that's a gape and hole. I'm not saying that. 426 00:19:36,400 --> 00:19:39,160 Speaker 5: Jonah won't be able to do it, but I'm here 427 00:19:39,240 --> 00:19:42,120 Speaker 5: to tell you that there always going to be some 428 00:19:42,240 --> 00:19:44,280 Speaker 5: challenges associated with learning it. 429 00:19:44,480 --> 00:19:47,000 Speaker 3: And this is where it's gonna be. 430 00:19:47,000 --> 00:19:48,639 Speaker 5: The onus is gonna be on Jonas to pick it 431 00:19:48,720 --> 00:19:50,879 Speaker 5: up and the linebacker the coach to be able to 432 00:19:50,920 --> 00:19:53,560 Speaker 5: walk him through every single thing that he's gonna need 433 00:19:53,600 --> 00:19:54,720 Speaker 5: to know well. 434 00:19:54,760 --> 00:19:58,120 Speaker 1: And you heard Sean say this talking about the death 435 00:19:58,160 --> 00:20:01,399 Speaker 1: they view of their outside line backers and edge rushers 436 00:20:02,080 --> 00:20:05,359 Speaker 1: versus the depth they view of their inside linebackers. Says 437 00:20:05,400 --> 00:20:09,280 Speaker 1: a lot, It says a ton does it got Lavelle Bailey. 438 00:20:09,280 --> 00:20:14,200 Speaker 1: You got Karen Reid, You've got uh Jordan Turner. Those 439 00:20:14,200 --> 00:20:16,680 Speaker 1: are the depth guys backing up your two starters. Of course, 440 00:20:16,680 --> 00:20:22,000 Speaker 1: they might still draft somebody, but they view this as 441 00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:24,879 Speaker 1: we have so many edge rushers. We have we have 442 00:20:24,920 --> 00:20:27,360 Speaker 1: almost too many pass rushers, which is I mean, it's 443 00:20:27,359 --> 00:20:31,280 Speaker 1: a good problem. It's good problem. Yeah, and knowing that 444 00:20:31,320 --> 00:20:33,320 Speaker 1: he can always shift back to this you have a 445 00:20:33,359 --> 00:20:34,960 Speaker 1: couple of injuries and you can always put him back 446 00:20:34,960 --> 00:20:38,040 Speaker 1: out there. But but this is a this is very 447 00:20:38,080 --> 00:20:42,479 Speaker 1: telling because they gave multi year contracts to sirnad In Singleton, right, 448 00:20:42,520 --> 00:20:45,160 Speaker 1: I mean, I know that they can be via the cap, 449 00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:46,760 Speaker 1: like these can be one year deals. I think Alex 450 00:20:46,800 --> 00:20:49,639 Speaker 1: Singleton ultimately is probably a one year deal, sir not 451 00:20:49,760 --> 00:20:51,160 Speaker 1: probably more of a two year deal. But the point 452 00:20:51,160 --> 00:20:54,680 Speaker 1: of it is is like you're saying, by this move, 453 00:20:55,240 --> 00:20:57,960 Speaker 1: we don't feel great about our deaths at inside linebacker, 454 00:20:58,160 --> 00:21:00,720 Speaker 1: but we feel amazing about our out sideline backer. 455 00:21:01,040 --> 00:21:02,399 Speaker 5: Yeah, you say that, and that's going to make some 456 00:21:02,440 --> 00:21:04,480 Speaker 5: of the Broncos fans upset because they're gonna say, well, 457 00:21:04,760 --> 00:21:06,760 Speaker 5: why did you bring back these two guys when you 458 00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:10,400 Speaker 5: could have gone out and got Devin Lloyd and paid 459 00:21:10,480 --> 00:21:14,000 Speaker 5: him an absorbent amount of money. But from the team standpoint, 460 00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:17,359 Speaker 5: they've seen Jonah, Right, Jonah is a smart guy because 461 00:21:17,600 --> 00:21:19,400 Speaker 5: there's not a lot of guys who you can line 462 00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:22,360 Speaker 5: up an outside linebacker who you tell them to rush 463 00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:24,720 Speaker 5: the passer and you ask them to drop and coverage. 464 00:21:24,960 --> 00:21:25,120 Speaker 3: Right. 465 00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:29,320 Speaker 5: Remember von Miller was asking to dropping coverage by Vic Fangiel. 466 00:21:29,480 --> 00:21:32,320 Speaker 5: That didn't look good. That didn't look good. So this 467 00:21:32,359 --> 00:21:34,720 Speaker 5: is the team saying. They're saying a lot of things 468 00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:37,440 Speaker 5: all at the same time. They have faith and they 469 00:21:37,480 --> 00:21:39,840 Speaker 5: believe in Jonah Ellen's based on what he's picked up 470 00:21:39,880 --> 00:21:40,560 Speaker 5: as far as. 471 00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:42,600 Speaker 3: Being a guy who can play in coverage, and. 472 00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:45,160 Speaker 5: They say, okay, well if we can, if he's excelled there, 473 00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:47,920 Speaker 5: let's put him inside. But here's the thing, they don't 474 00:21:47,960 --> 00:21:50,399 Speaker 5: have to do that on a consistent basis. He's going 475 00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:54,680 Speaker 5: to rotate and with Q Robinson as being an edge rusher. 476 00:21:55,040 --> 00:21:57,879 Speaker 5: But you think about the ability to Jonah, for Jonah 477 00:21:57,880 --> 00:21:59,959 Speaker 5: to rush to get after the quarterback. 478 00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:02,000 Speaker 3: Now you can run what. 479 00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:04,640 Speaker 5: I would call a NASCAR package where you can get 480 00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:07,639 Speaker 5: a bunch of edge rushers on the field at the 481 00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:08,320 Speaker 5: same time. 482 00:22:08,359 --> 00:22:10,159 Speaker 3: Could you imagine. 483 00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:12,360 Speaker 5: Those guards trying to deal with guys who are used 484 00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:15,040 Speaker 5: to being on the edge work well, you know, trying 485 00:22:15,040 --> 00:22:16,720 Speaker 5: to work one half of a guy and work well 486 00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:18,960 Speaker 5: with their hands. That could that could be a hell 487 00:22:18,960 --> 00:22:20,359 Speaker 5: of a package that you put together. 488 00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:23,680 Speaker 1: I agree, and especially with Vance Joseph and his ability 489 00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:25,720 Speaker 1: to get the best out of his players. Yeah, like 490 00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:28,880 Speaker 1: that's the one thing that you have to the defense 491 00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:30,800 Speaker 1: is great, and certainly I know I teach you a 492 00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:34,080 Speaker 1: lot about our conversations on it. But more importantly, that's 493 00:22:34,119 --> 00:22:36,120 Speaker 1: something that he has become. The calling card of Vance 494 00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:40,040 Speaker 1: Joseph is he has a keen awareness of the skills 495 00:22:40,040 --> 00:22:41,720 Speaker 1: and abilities of his players. And I think that's where 496 00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:43,960 Speaker 1: I put a lot of my faith in this entire argument, 497 00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:47,480 Speaker 1: is that this isn't coming strictly from Sean. It's not 498 00:22:47,520 --> 00:22:48,960 Speaker 1: like Sean woke up one day and said, you know 499 00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:50,879 Speaker 1: what should do. We should put in Jonah at an 500 00:22:50,920 --> 00:22:53,520 Speaker 1: inside linebacker. Let's put him going away from the ball. 501 00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:55,760 Speaker 1: Let's let's let's see what he looks like there. This 502 00:22:55,800 --> 00:22:58,280 Speaker 1: is Vance Joseph. Vance Joseph thinks that they could make 503 00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:01,800 Speaker 1: that work. Now, this may be over all roster construction discussions, 504 00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:04,439 Speaker 1: right I mean, the head coach, the GM, everybody's in 505 00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:07,880 Speaker 1: on this, but they're not doing it without Vance Joseph 506 00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:11,560 Speaker 1: saying he believes that he has the capability. 507 00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:11,320 Speaker 2: Of doing it. 508 00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:13,080 Speaker 5: Well, it's not just the fact that Vance saying that 509 00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:15,480 Speaker 5: he believes that Jonah can do it. It's the fact 510 00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:19,520 Speaker 5: of saying, can Jonah kind of adapt? How quickly can 511 00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:21,800 Speaker 5: he adapt to what's going to be asked of? But 512 00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:24,840 Speaker 5: also it is an indictment of the other linebackers in 513 00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:25,200 Speaker 5: the room. 514 00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:26,960 Speaker 2: Well, I be sure. 515 00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:29,440 Speaker 3: But this, come on, Ryan, let's let's call it what 516 00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:29,880 Speaker 3: it is. 517 00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:31,679 Speaker 1: But they're also But this is the other thing that 518 00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:34,760 Speaker 1: I think it's gets misunderstood a bit, is they're not 519 00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:37,960 Speaker 1: back without Vance Joseph wanting them back. Like if Vance Joseph, 520 00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:41,040 Speaker 1: like everybody continues to hammer away with this limitation of 521 00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:43,439 Speaker 1: Alex Singleton or what and I think justice or not 522 00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:46,200 Speaker 1: is more than proven he's a starting inside linebacker. In fact, 523 00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:48,120 Speaker 1: I thought of you when they signed him back because 524 00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:49,680 Speaker 1: I knew you had been found on the table. 525 00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:51,760 Speaker 2: This guy's got to be back on the team. I 526 00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:52,639 Speaker 2: love it, I know you did. 527 00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:55,760 Speaker 1: But Eron points to the critical limitations of Alex Singleton. 528 00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:58,560 Speaker 1: You don't think that he'd be here if Vance Joseph 529 00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:01,800 Speaker 1: didn't love him and believe that he added value to 530 00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:04,800 Speaker 1: this team. You think that the the Broncos would legitimately 531 00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:07,480 Speaker 1: pay somebody money in this Super. 532 00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:11,720 Speaker 2: Bowl window that they're in currently for just I don't know, 533 00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:15,200 Speaker 2: because we like him a lot. No man, but Ryan. 534 00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:17,879 Speaker 3: Every player has limitation, of course they do. 535 00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:20,800 Speaker 5: With the idea is that is there more upside to 536 00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:23,560 Speaker 5: a given player than the. 537 00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:24,960 Speaker 3: Shortcomings that they present. 538 00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:27,880 Speaker 5: And I want to make sure that I am corrected 539 00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:29,720 Speaker 5: on this and I don't want people to misunderstand me 540 00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:31,639 Speaker 5: when I was talking about the linebacker position. 541 00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:34,160 Speaker 3: This has nothing to do with Alex Singer and Justine Shanard. 542 00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:36,879 Speaker 5: It is an indictment on the other guys in the 543 00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:39,040 Speaker 5: room because they're bringing a guy off the edge and 544 00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:41,879 Speaker 5: they're putting him inside and say, okay, well, we feel 545 00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:44,840 Speaker 5: as though he will give us not only depth but 546 00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:46,280 Speaker 5: athleticism at that position. 547 00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:48,960 Speaker 3: So if I'm in the room, I'm taking it personally. 548 00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:51,359 Speaker 5: Just like if I'm a wide receiver for the Denver 549 00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:54,640 Speaker 5: Broncos and they bring in jaylen Wado, some people say, well, Nick, 550 00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:56,560 Speaker 5: you out of your mind. No, when they bring you 551 00:24:56,560 --> 00:25:00,600 Speaker 5: in a guy outside that plays your position and who 552 00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:03,359 Speaker 5: they wanted last year they couldn't get him. That's to 553 00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:05,840 Speaker 5: send a message. And if it doesn't see the send 554 00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:08,320 Speaker 5: a message to you, you're not reading the tea leaves properly. 555 00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:10,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, Marvin Miniz has definitely got that message. 556 00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:12,000 Speaker 3: He saw. 557 00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:14,720 Speaker 1: I'm sure he saw his comments on the altitude. I 558 00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:18,960 Speaker 1: saw them last week and then yeah, I mean he's 559 00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:22,119 Speaker 1: going he's going into a contract year. So it's understandable. 560 00:25:22,119 --> 00:25:24,000 Speaker 1: You played in the NFL, you know what that feels like. 561 00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:26,879 Speaker 1: You're going to a contract year. You you feel a 562 00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:30,439 Speaker 1: little bit of that pressure to perform. And Marvin has 563 00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:32,000 Speaker 1: a tough enough time getting on the field as it is. 564 00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:37,280 Speaker 5: Okay, but that's not all Marvin's fault. It maybe sixty 565 00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:39,600 Speaker 5: forty whatever, But all I know, every time Marvin's on 566 00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:43,199 Speaker 5: the field and he's going vertical, not parallel to the 567 00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:45,240 Speaker 5: line of scrimmage, he makes place. 568 00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:48,520 Speaker 3: That's what I know, right. I don't need anyone to 569 00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:49,320 Speaker 3: kind of tell me that. 570 00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:51,400 Speaker 5: And if I was sitting in front of Marvin right now, 571 00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:53,200 Speaker 5: I would tell him, look, man. 572 00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:54,680 Speaker 3: Let this motivate you. 573 00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:57,560 Speaker 5: Go out there and show them who you are, even 574 00:25:57,600 --> 00:25:59,679 Speaker 5: though you know, Marvin is not a guy who is 575 00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:03,760 Speaker 5: very vocal, right, He's not like a Steve Smith singer. 576 00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:05,240 Speaker 5: He's not gonna talk about it. He's just gonna write 577 00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:08,040 Speaker 5: him do it. But hopefully this motivates him to go 578 00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:10,800 Speaker 5: out there and hopefully David's Web if he's going to 579 00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:13,359 Speaker 5: be calling ninety or one hundred percent of the plays, 580 00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:17,360 Speaker 5: give that kid a shot, give him an opportunity because he's. 581 00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:22,200 Speaker 3: Earned the right for whether Sean or whether David's Web. 582 00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:24,920 Speaker 5: To set him up for perfection because he's. 583 00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:27,040 Speaker 3: Delivered every single time. Tell me a play. 584 00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:30,280 Speaker 5: Anytime that Marvin Mimmes wasn't going vertical, that he didn't 585 00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:30,520 Speaker 5: make a. 586 00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:33,920 Speaker 2: Play, well, the only thing that I could point to. 587 00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:37,640 Speaker 1: Is what like a negative yeah, because he he does 588 00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:43,040 Speaker 1: sometimes what I don't want to Okay, I'll put it right. 589 00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:45,359 Speaker 2: No, No, I just want to. I want to. I 590 00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:49,040 Speaker 2: don't want to sound like I'm being down on him. 591 00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:52,880 Speaker 1: Because first of all, I don't know what they're being 592 00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:54,359 Speaker 1: coached to do, so I'll just put it like that. 593 00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:57,280 Speaker 1: But there are some times when you're running the for 594 00:26:57,400 --> 00:27:01,000 Speaker 1: the love of the game routes. What's what's that well, 595 00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:03,359 Speaker 1: as you you don't believe the ball is coming your way. Now, 596 00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:06,199 Speaker 1: there's some players that play to a certain level all 597 00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:07,840 Speaker 1: that all the time. They say, I don't care if 598 00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:09,359 Speaker 1: the ball's not coming my way, Like the design of 599 00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:11,520 Speaker 1: the play is not to me. I'm still going to 600 00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:13,600 Speaker 1: run this route as though it is coming to me 601 00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:15,560 Speaker 1: because I got to sell it for the rest of 602 00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:18,440 Speaker 1: my teammates. There have been moments where Marvin doesn't that's it. 603 00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:21,439 Speaker 5: Well, okay, well, you know it's funny because I've had 604 00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:26,600 Speaker 5: this conversation before when it came to Jerry Judy. 605 00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:28,320 Speaker 2: Here's another champion. 606 00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:30,680 Speaker 5: Because here's the thing. When you're on the field and 607 00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:34,040 Speaker 5: you at that position right as a wide receiver and 608 00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:37,679 Speaker 5: their progressions are you number one in the progression? Number two, 609 00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:40,480 Speaker 5: number three? Maybe you're running clear out to free someone 610 00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:42,439 Speaker 5: else up. But also you do all that stuff and 611 00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:45,080 Speaker 5: the ball never comes to you. It does get discouraging. 612 00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:48,200 Speaker 5: I don't care who you are, right, it does get 613 00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:51,639 Speaker 5: discouraging when you're doing all this work and you freeing 614 00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:54,600 Speaker 5: things up for someone else and they don't. 615 00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:55,240 Speaker 3: Put you in office. 616 00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:57,359 Speaker 1: You asked me for an example, and that's that's okay. 617 00:27:57,440 --> 00:28:00,000 Speaker 1: That's a pretty glaring one. Okay, if you're coaching staff 618 00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:02,639 Speaker 1: and you know that does that not impact the way 619 00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:03,200 Speaker 1: you viel play? 620 00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:05,040 Speaker 3: But you can change it as a coach. 621 00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:07,560 Speaker 5: You call more plays for that guy who's opening things 622 00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:08,280 Speaker 5: up for everyone else. 623 00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:10,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, no, no, no, no, no, this is on 624 00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:11,240 Speaker 2: the player. 625 00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:14,480 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, listen, I understand where you're coming from that, 626 00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:16,399 Speaker 1: but you're absolutely wrong in this. 627 00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:19,080 Speaker 2: This is absolutely this is absolutely on the play. 628 00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:19,320 Speaker 3: Now. 629 00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:20,919 Speaker 2: I know you played the game. I'm just kidding. 630 00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:22,919 Speaker 1: I know you played the game, but I'm saying this 631 00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:26,840 Speaker 1: is on Marvin and any player. Jerry Judy is the example. 632 00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:29,120 Speaker 3: If you run a situation and you're running clear out, 633 00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:29,760 Speaker 3: you take. 634 00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:32,280 Speaker 1: Ownership of your job. You can only control what you 635 00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:32,880 Speaker 1: can control. 636 00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:34,960 Speaker 5: But it gets to a point where you get sick 637 00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:37,840 Speaker 5: and tired of running sprints where they're not throwing you 638 00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:40,280 Speaker 5: the ball. You're clearing out and then when you do 639 00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:43,480 Speaker 5: come in whenever that is when someone doesn't have a 640 00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:45,960 Speaker 5: hamstring or they're not can cause you run. 641 00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:46,320 Speaker 3: It just week. 642 00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:50,440 Speaker 1: Don't you think if you had that level of commitment 643 00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:53,240 Speaker 1: all the time that it would lead to more things 644 00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:54,960 Speaker 1: Because the coaching staf say, hey, I know he's been 645 00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:57,720 Speaker 1: running a lot of clearouts and I'm sure, that's exhausting, 646 00:28:57,720 --> 00:29:00,520 Speaker 1: but he is running that as though it matters every time. 647 00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:04,000 Speaker 5: But I understand what you're saying, and there's a little 648 00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:06,640 Speaker 5: true to that. But as a player, you want to 649 00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:08,520 Speaker 5: say I'm doing a lot of the dirty work. 650 00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:10,280 Speaker 3: We warre me for the dirty work because. 651 00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:13,120 Speaker 5: All I know that Buffalo game went Guess what, Troy 652 00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:16,920 Speaker 5: Franklin had a hamstring and Pat Bryant was demed up 653 00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:17,640 Speaker 5: with a concussion. 654 00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:21,000 Speaker 3: Guess who they went to on that fade route. Marvin 655 00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:21,720 Speaker 3: freaking Man. 656 00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:23,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, he led the team in cat. 657 00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:27,240 Speaker 3: So and you go back to the year prior to that. 658 00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:31,400 Speaker 5: Yes, it was just like we watched a whole season 659 00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:33,360 Speaker 5: where we don't see a lot of Marvin Mam. When 660 00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:35,160 Speaker 5: we saw I think it was twenty twenty four in 661 00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:39,880 Speaker 5: the game against Joe Burrow, Cincinnati bow Nicks breaks the pocket, 662 00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:43,640 Speaker 5: he throws two explosives, both of them to Marvin Mamm's right. 663 00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:47,120 Speaker 5: And idea is that, guess what, not every player is perfect. 664 00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:49,520 Speaker 5: Every player's going to have some flaws. But if you 665 00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:52,720 Speaker 5: realize that there's something intrinsic about this player that he 666 00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:54,880 Speaker 5: can do, you set him up and you get him 667 00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:56,680 Speaker 5: on the field and you get him on the field 668 00:29:56,720 --> 00:29:58,480 Speaker 5: in the ways that he can make a massive impact 669 00:29:59,160 --> 00:29:59,960 Speaker 5: that hasn't happened. 670 00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:06,000 Speaker 1: Why do you why is Jalen Waddle considering their relative 671 00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:09,480 Speaker 1: size and speed, Why is Jalen Wattle a better receiver 672 00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:10,320 Speaker 1: than Marvin Mams? 673 00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:15,280 Speaker 5: Okay, in my opinion, Jalen Wattle is is I mean 674 00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:19,640 Speaker 5: coming into the building right, he is the best route runner. 675 00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:25,600 Speaker 3: On the team. What Jalen Wattle is is what the 676 00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:27,640 Speaker 3: Broncos hope Jerry Judy would become. 677 00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:30,280 Speaker 2: I'm with you on that. 678 00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:34,040 Speaker 3: That's what that is because Jerry ran great routes. Jerry 679 00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:35,680 Speaker 3: was always. 680 00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:38,240 Speaker 5: In his head listening to people outside on Twitter or whatever, 681 00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:41,560 Speaker 5: not focusing on his game, allowing his frustration to carry 682 00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:43,600 Speaker 5: over into practice and games to a point where he 683 00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:45,600 Speaker 5: wasn't focused on catching the ball and he would drop 684 00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:47,040 Speaker 5: balls in critical situations. 685 00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:48,640 Speaker 3: That was Jerry's issue. 686 00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:52,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'd say a lot more mental Yea. The physical 687 00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:54,560 Speaker 1: stuff was there, although he had the drops, I mean, 688 00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:55,080 Speaker 1: all the. 689 00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:56,360 Speaker 3: Tools were there. 690 00:30:56,480 --> 00:30:56,720 Speaker 2: Yeah. 691 00:30:56,800 --> 00:30:58,720 Speaker 3: But I have a lot of faith in Marvin Mamms. 692 00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:02,840 Speaker 5: But let's be fair, Marvin hasn't received a fair shake 693 00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:07,320 Speaker 5: because a lot of the routes Ryan that he would 694 00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:09,640 Speaker 5: run right, and. 695 00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:12,320 Speaker 2: Fair shake because of him or fair shake because of them. 696 00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:16,080 Speaker 5: I'm gonna say it's a combination of both. Right, because 697 00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:18,240 Speaker 5: I'm in the stadium, I watch the games. Every time 698 00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:20,720 Speaker 5: Marvin comes in the game and he's off the ball 699 00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:24,280 Speaker 5: or he's in the backfield, we all know what's coming. No, no, 700 00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:28,120 Speaker 5: but that does an accential way his capabilities as a player. 701 00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:30,480 Speaker 5: I want to see for us to make this true 702 00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:32,640 Speaker 5: judgment on who Marvin is in his final year in 703 00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:35,600 Speaker 5: this contract. Put him out there, let him run rounds. 704 00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:37,960 Speaker 5: So let's just see if he has he developed as 705 00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:40,880 Speaker 5: a route runner, how many exposive plays can he actually 706 00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:42,840 Speaker 5: kind of come down with if you throw him the 707 00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:43,400 Speaker 5: damn ball. 708 00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:47,640 Speaker 1: I wanted to be noticed in the logs for the segment. 709 00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:50,280 Speaker 1: I started on defense and he pulled it to offense. 710 00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:53,040 Speaker 1: Just want to say, like often times I get accused 711 00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:55,480 Speaker 1: of leaning too much into the offense and not enough 712 00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:57,280 Speaker 1: into the defense. I started on the defensive side of 713 00:31:57,280 --> 00:32:00,000 Speaker 1: the ball, and Nick Ferguson willingly took it to the offense, 714 00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:02,280 Speaker 1: which is fine with me. I think we can have 715 00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:05,200 Speaker 1: a multi tier conversation. That's fine, But you know why 716 00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:09,640 Speaker 1: you accuse me. I accuse you fairly. No, you walk 717 00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:13,600 Speaker 1: in those shoes. But I'm here to bring balance you don't. Yes, 718 00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:22,400 Speaker 1: I'm bringing balance to the force. Now that's a gaping hole. Yes, 719 00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:26,720 Speaker 1: it's a gaping hole, but it's not the pooter hole. 720 00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:31,160 Speaker 1: And they would David, Yes, it's a gaping hole. You 721 00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:34,120 Speaker 1: can poop, holler and scream. But guess what, no one's 722 00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:35,000 Speaker 1: coming to help you out. 723 00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:37,440 Speaker 3: No one's coming to help you, Ryan, that was so. 724 00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:41,040 Speaker 5: All right. 725 00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:45,080 Speaker 1: When we come back, Zach Goodman is going to join us, 726 00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:49,520 Speaker 1: looking forward to that conversation. 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