1 00:00:04,200 --> 00:00:07,360 Speaker 1: It's greatest rips. Welcome to the West Miller Radio Show. 2 00:00:07,680 --> 00:00:11,879 Speaker 1: I'm Dan Hord alongside former Bearcats standout Terry Nelson and 3 00:00:12,080 --> 00:00:14,080 Speaker 1: the star of the show, the head coach of the 4 00:00:14,120 --> 00:00:16,680 Speaker 1: three and oh you see Bearcats. Let's hear it for 5 00:00:16,760 --> 00:00:23,080 Speaker 1: Wes Miller. Cincinnati coming off a nice win on Tuesday Night, 6 00:00:23,079 --> 00:00:25,599 Speaker 1: a twelve point win over the Dayton Flyers. We know 7 00:00:25,680 --> 00:00:27,600 Speaker 1: at the end of the year, Dayton's going to have 8 00:00:27,840 --> 00:00:31,480 Speaker 1: a good NCAA net ranking. They're in the top one 9 00:00:31,560 --> 00:00:33,479 Speaker 1: hundred every year. So that's one of those wins that's 10 00:00:33,479 --> 00:00:37,640 Speaker 1: going to pay dividends in March. And anytime you can 11 00:00:37,680 --> 00:00:39,959 Speaker 1: get a win over Dayton, I don't care if it's 12 00:00:39,960 --> 00:00:42,720 Speaker 1: one point, twelve points, whatever, that's a nice victory. 13 00:00:43,479 --> 00:00:47,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, please with the result for sure. And you know, 14 00:00:47,360 --> 00:00:50,159 Speaker 2: we're still a team that's evolved in learning each other 15 00:00:50,280 --> 00:00:52,240 Speaker 2: going through games for the first time. That was the 16 00:00:53,240 --> 00:00:56,440 Speaker 2: first higher level opponent that we played in that sense 17 00:00:56,480 --> 00:00:59,440 Speaker 2: at least, and you know, there was some nice things 18 00:00:59,440 --> 00:01:00,960 Speaker 2: that happened that gave us a chance to have a 19 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:02,120 Speaker 2: double figure victory. 20 00:01:03,040 --> 00:01:07,400 Speaker 3: Your mentality has been from from day one. Next play. 21 00:01:07,520 --> 00:01:10,120 Speaker 3: You finally have a team that truly understands what next 22 00:01:10,120 --> 00:01:13,600 Speaker 3: play is. Obviously, as you're adjusting to a new style 23 00:01:13,840 --> 00:01:18,320 Speaker 3: of constant pressure offensively and defensively with little or no 24 00:01:18,480 --> 00:01:22,160 Speaker 3: breaks to really process what you're doing, you've gotta process faster. 25 00:01:22,280 --> 00:01:23,520 Speaker 4: You're gonna have some mistakes. 26 00:01:23,880 --> 00:01:26,720 Speaker 3: Is it truly about the next play? 27 00:01:27,040 --> 00:01:30,240 Speaker 2: That's been a motto for years, is that the most 28 00:01:30,280 --> 00:01:34,040 Speaker 2: important play is the next play. And it's it's like, 29 00:01:34,080 --> 00:01:36,040 Speaker 2: you know, you hear that in practice all the time, 30 00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:38,319 Speaker 2: and it's it's neat if you hear the players echoing 31 00:01:38,400 --> 00:01:43,520 Speaker 2: that to each other. And so you're trying to adapt 32 00:01:44,120 --> 00:01:47,560 Speaker 2: establish that type of mentality, and like, I'll give you 33 00:01:47,600 --> 00:01:50,840 Speaker 2: the example in the Dayton game. You know, they score 34 00:01:50,880 --> 00:01:54,600 Speaker 2: to cut it to two, and we scored four and 35 00:01:54,600 --> 00:01:56,760 Speaker 2: a half seconds later on the other end, and that 36 00:01:56,760 --> 00:01:58,000 Speaker 2: that's what we mean is sunk. 37 00:01:58,040 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 4: They got it out and you guys ran straight. 38 00:01:59,720 --> 00:02:01,800 Speaker 2: Down, yeah, you know, and it was a it was 39 00:02:01,840 --> 00:02:04,320 Speaker 2: a big play for them, a big value dunk way 40 00:02:04,320 --> 00:02:07,240 Speaker 2: above the rim, and you're scoring on the other end 41 00:02:07,240 --> 00:02:09,520 Speaker 2: while they're still celebrating, and then all of a sudden 42 00:02:09,760 --> 00:02:12,400 Speaker 2: that that's a big momentum shift. They had a momentum shift. 43 00:02:12,400 --> 00:02:14,440 Speaker 2: And then you go right back, and to me, that's 44 00:02:14,639 --> 00:02:17,280 Speaker 2: that's playing the next play right, not letting what just 45 00:02:17,320 --> 00:02:18,880 Speaker 2: happen affect what you're supposed to do. 46 00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:22,080 Speaker 1: Dayton shot twenty four percent in the first half, thirty 47 00:02:22,120 --> 00:02:24,880 Speaker 1: two percent in the game. Is your defense ahead of 48 00:02:24,919 --> 00:02:27,400 Speaker 1: your offense right now? Or is that a day to 49 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:28,320 Speaker 1: day type of thing. 50 00:02:30,480 --> 00:02:34,280 Speaker 2: It's too early to analyze statistics, you know, Like I 51 00:02:34,320 --> 00:02:38,160 Speaker 2: think people somebody referenced some Ken palm stuff and press 52 00:02:38,160 --> 00:02:40,840 Speaker 2: conference and you know that that kind of thing. I 53 00:02:40,880 --> 00:02:43,160 Speaker 2: think I think about seven eight nine games in you 54 00:02:43,200 --> 00:02:45,799 Speaker 2: can really look at some statistics. You have a bigger 55 00:02:45,800 --> 00:02:49,040 Speaker 2: sample size than those statistics mean a little more. I 56 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:51,600 Speaker 2: feel like our offense in some ways is way ahead 57 00:02:51,600 --> 00:02:53,440 Speaker 2: of our defense, but not in every way. I think 58 00:02:53,480 --> 00:02:55,320 Speaker 2: there's some things with our offense we still have to 59 00:02:55,360 --> 00:02:57,880 Speaker 2: really iron out, and we haven't run a lot of 60 00:02:57,880 --> 00:03:00,400 Speaker 2: specific action yet. It's been more just kind of flow 61 00:03:00,440 --> 00:03:03,480 Speaker 2: and style of play. We definitely got to get a 62 00:03:03,520 --> 00:03:08,840 Speaker 2: little more specific here over the next couple of weeks. Defensively, again, 63 00:03:08,919 --> 00:03:11,480 Speaker 2: two weeks ago, I went, man, we got too far 64 00:03:11,560 --> 00:03:13,400 Speaker 2: to go that I want to go, and we're going 65 00:03:13,480 --> 00:03:15,240 Speaker 2: to really spend some time and energy on it. We 66 00:03:15,320 --> 00:03:17,240 Speaker 2: have over the last two weeks and it's improving, but 67 00:03:17,280 --> 00:03:18,320 Speaker 2: it still has a ways to go. 68 00:03:18,800 --> 00:03:21,799 Speaker 3: When you put together over the years your scouting report, 69 00:03:21,840 --> 00:03:23,760 Speaker 3: you look at your team, you're going over their offense, 70 00:03:24,040 --> 00:03:27,280 Speaker 3: and then you're looking at key players. At some point 71 00:03:27,320 --> 00:03:29,919 Speaker 3: you didn't have the players to lock down the other 72 00:03:29,960 --> 00:03:31,560 Speaker 3: team's best players, so you had to do a lot 73 00:03:31,600 --> 00:03:34,639 Speaker 3: of scheme. You've got multiple guys now that can get 74 00:03:34,680 --> 00:03:37,680 Speaker 3: after and sort of go on one man assignments and say, hey, 75 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:40,200 Speaker 3: your job is there, your job is there? When you're 76 00:03:40,200 --> 00:03:42,360 Speaker 3: putting your game plan together, are you using more of 77 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:44,280 Speaker 3: that and using the knowledge of the talent that you 78 00:03:44,280 --> 00:03:47,680 Speaker 3: have around you to sort of put a damp in 79 00:03:47,760 --> 00:03:49,560 Speaker 3: the fire that these guys may have. 80 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:52,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe a little of that terry and maybe a 81 00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:56,240 Speaker 2: little not. I think we do really value the personnel report, 82 00:03:57,960 --> 00:03:59,920 Speaker 2: you know, trying and I think we have some older 83 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:02,440 Speaker 2: eyes that have logged a lot of minutes in college 84 00:04:02,440 --> 00:04:04,120 Speaker 2: basketball and they know how to take a scout and 85 00:04:04,160 --> 00:04:07,960 Speaker 2: report and apply it to our defensive principles. So you know, 86 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:09,880 Speaker 2: maybe you're guarding a guy that's not as good of 87 00:04:09,960 --> 00:04:11,640 Speaker 2: a shooter, or a guy that we're not going to 88 00:04:11,720 --> 00:04:15,760 Speaker 2: respect as much of as a shooter, and these guys, 89 00:04:15,840 --> 00:04:18,760 Speaker 2: especially our older players, understand how to go under a 90 00:04:18,800 --> 00:04:21,680 Speaker 2: screen that you might normally go over something like that. 91 00:04:22,320 --> 00:04:24,160 Speaker 2: And so in the Dayton game, there was a number 92 00:04:24,200 --> 00:04:29,320 Speaker 2: of guys that we decided to play underneath. We decided 93 00:04:29,360 --> 00:04:33,039 Speaker 2: to keep in front. They were so dangerous downhill in 94 00:04:33,120 --> 00:04:36,279 Speaker 2: their first three games and the first I'm sorry too. 95 00:04:36,320 --> 00:04:39,120 Speaker 2: And the exhibitions, you're so worried about what they can 96 00:04:39,160 --> 00:04:41,680 Speaker 2: do at the rim, but it's like, hey, they can 97 00:04:41,720 --> 00:04:44,039 Speaker 2: make a shot, but that's not been who they've been, 98 00:04:44,200 --> 00:04:47,120 Speaker 2: either at Dayton or at previous stops in their careers. 99 00:04:47,520 --> 00:04:49,159 Speaker 2: Our guys were able to kind of take some of 100 00:04:49,200 --> 00:04:51,120 Speaker 2: those things in scout and then apply them. And I 101 00:04:51,120 --> 00:04:52,880 Speaker 2: think we have to be a team that continues to 102 00:04:52,880 --> 00:04:55,359 Speaker 2: be able to utilize that information. And then, you know, 103 00:04:55,640 --> 00:04:57,200 Speaker 2: I think we do have a couple of guys that 104 00:04:57,279 --> 00:04:59,800 Speaker 2: can really, you know, lock into a defense of a 105 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:03,040 Speaker 2: I'm you know, I'd like to have a team full 106 00:05:03,080 --> 00:05:05,920 Speaker 2: of that, but there's some guys that are capable, for sure. 107 00:05:06,480 --> 00:05:11,240 Speaker 1: Buck Harris might be the most prototypical Bearcat you've had 108 00:05:11,720 --> 00:05:15,360 Speaker 1: in your five years coaching at Cincinnati. The toughness, the hustle, 109 00:05:15,440 --> 00:05:19,840 Speaker 1: the aggressiveness, the feistiness. One negative though so far has 110 00:05:19,880 --> 00:05:22,920 Speaker 1: been fouled trouble. He's averaging four files in the first 111 00:05:22,960 --> 00:05:28,200 Speaker 1: three games. Does his reputation lead to some fouls being 112 00:05:28,240 --> 00:05:31,120 Speaker 1: called on him that aren't called on others or are 113 00:05:31,160 --> 00:05:34,000 Speaker 1: there easy ways for him to cut down on those files? 114 00:05:35,279 --> 00:05:38,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's probably a mix of things. Dan 115 00:05:38,160 --> 00:05:41,359 Speaker 2: and we actually had the reputation conversation in film a 116 00:05:41,400 --> 00:05:43,320 Speaker 2: couple of days ago when we were watching the game 117 00:05:43,360 --> 00:05:45,599 Speaker 2: tape with the team. You know, we do have some 118 00:05:45,680 --> 00:05:48,680 Speaker 2: guys that have not just played a lot of college basketball, 119 00:05:48,680 --> 00:05:51,440 Speaker 2: they've played college basketball in this league. With the officials 120 00:05:51,440 --> 00:05:53,919 Speaker 2: that get assigned to games in this league, and we 121 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:56,600 Speaker 2: talked about it, some of you guys have some reputations 122 00:05:57,200 --> 00:05:59,840 Speaker 2: and you got to be very aware of that, and 123 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:02,480 Speaker 2: they know who you are. I mean, they're talking about 124 00:06:02,480 --> 00:06:05,359 Speaker 2: our players by first name before we even tip the ball. 125 00:06:06,040 --> 00:06:07,760 Speaker 2: And some of that's good and some of it's not. 126 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:10,880 Speaker 2: And they have to try to build the right reputations. 127 00:06:10,920 --> 00:06:13,920 Speaker 2: In their early time at Cincinnati, I said to one 128 00:06:13,920 --> 00:06:16,000 Speaker 2: of our players in film, I said, you have a 129 00:06:16,040 --> 00:06:20,120 Speaker 2: reputation as this and that didn't happen at Cincinnati it 130 00:06:20,120 --> 00:06:22,400 Speaker 2: happened somewhere else. You got to change it at Cincinnati, 131 00:06:22,600 --> 00:06:25,720 Speaker 2: and so I think Buck is getting penalized a little bit, 132 00:06:26,360 --> 00:06:29,640 Speaker 2: you know, because people do understand how aggressively is defensively. 133 00:06:29,880 --> 00:06:32,600 Speaker 2: But he's also just got to find that happy medium 134 00:06:32,640 --> 00:06:35,119 Speaker 2: of still being him, being aggressive, but having a little 135 00:06:35,120 --> 00:06:37,080 Speaker 2: more discipline so we can keep them in the game. 136 00:06:37,279 --> 00:06:39,120 Speaker 3: I know what you mean about reputation, because Dan has 137 00:06:39,120 --> 00:06:41,440 Speaker 3: a reputation of taking the We used to stay together 138 00:06:41,880 --> 00:06:42,800 Speaker 3: on the road for a year. 139 00:06:42,960 --> 00:06:43,960 Speaker 4: Has as soon as. 140 00:06:43,800 --> 00:06:45,520 Speaker 3: He was sitting there, he would just take the table, 141 00:06:45,880 --> 00:06:47,720 Speaker 3: take the little desk in there, put all this stuff 142 00:06:47,800 --> 00:06:49,520 Speaker 3: laid out, and then he would go use the restroom. 143 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:51,760 Speaker 4: So I had to go down. I know about reputation. 144 00:06:51,920 --> 00:06:57,200 Speaker 2: But anyway, with anything, we got a great trend going 145 00:06:57,200 --> 00:06:59,719 Speaker 2: on this year that you two just keep. I'm gonna 146 00:06:59,720 --> 00:07:01,440 Speaker 2: have to out of the middle of this at some point. 147 00:07:01,480 --> 00:07:03,960 Speaker 3: It's entertainment value, rather, come on, they's been a pretty 148 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:05,320 Speaker 3: pity here, So entertainment value. 149 00:07:05,360 --> 00:07:10,040 Speaker 4: Okay, So you get your offense left to right. 150 00:07:10,440 --> 00:07:12,160 Speaker 3: It seems like when that ball goes left to right, 151 00:07:12,240 --> 00:07:14,120 Speaker 3: you have options of on the ball screens or you 152 00:07:14,120 --> 00:07:16,560 Speaker 3: had to give your guys the freedom to dance a 153 00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:19,000 Speaker 3: little bit and create for themselves or for the team. 154 00:07:19,440 --> 00:07:21,640 Speaker 3: When that pall comes, it seems to shine to Baiev. 155 00:07:22,280 --> 00:07:25,760 Speaker 3: He has this ability against the toughest of defense with 156 00:07:25,920 --> 00:07:29,400 Speaker 3: his side step to get separation, and it seems like 157 00:07:29,480 --> 00:07:31,840 Speaker 3: because he's so long and because it seems to be 158 00:07:31,880 --> 00:07:34,760 Speaker 3: a slow wind up on it, he gets filed a 159 00:07:34,760 --> 00:07:37,160 Speaker 3: lot on three point attempts, more than I've seen any 160 00:07:37,200 --> 00:07:39,520 Speaker 3: other player in Cincinnati in recent years. 161 00:07:40,760 --> 00:07:43,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I think we have the utmost confidence 162 00:07:43,680 --> 00:07:49,760 Speaker 2: and Shawn, you know, being able to shot create, and 163 00:07:49,920 --> 00:07:52,080 Speaker 2: I think the ones that stand out to everybody are 164 00:07:52,120 --> 00:07:54,840 Speaker 2: the tough ones that he hits, you know, where he's defended. 165 00:07:55,400 --> 00:07:58,080 Speaker 2: And certainly that was a big part of while we recurve. 166 00:07:58,160 --> 00:07:59,920 Speaker 2: Somebody said, you're gonna let him take those shots. I said, 167 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:02,560 Speaker 2: recruited him to take those shots. I mean, it'd be 168 00:08:02,640 --> 00:08:05,120 Speaker 2: silly to tell him we love you because you can 169 00:08:05,160 --> 00:08:06,520 Speaker 2: do that, and then you get here and you're not 170 00:08:06,560 --> 00:08:09,040 Speaker 2: allowed to do that. But the part that he does 171 00:08:09,080 --> 00:08:14,120 Speaker 2: so well that maybe is underrated is hillity to make 172 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:17,640 Speaker 2: the easy play for others. You know, he can start 173 00:08:17,640 --> 00:08:19,560 Speaker 2: the domino with the ball in his hands, and I 174 00:08:19,560 --> 00:08:20,920 Speaker 2: thought he did that at the end of the game, 175 00:08:21,000 --> 00:08:23,320 Speaker 2: and we put him in, you know, three straight pick 176 00:08:23,320 --> 00:08:25,200 Speaker 2: and rolls, and was all the same action. And one 177 00:08:25,280 --> 00:08:27,760 Speaker 2: of them he makes a nice simple pass to Day Day. 178 00:08:27,800 --> 00:08:29,680 Speaker 2: Day Day drives a baseline and Day Day goes to 179 00:08:29,760 --> 00:08:32,760 Speaker 2: Jal and Celestine. Three. The other one he comes off 180 00:08:32,760 --> 00:08:34,480 Speaker 2: he makes a nice simple pass to Day they coming 181 00:08:34,520 --> 00:08:36,560 Speaker 2: off a pen down and Day they missed a shot. 182 00:08:36,559 --> 00:08:38,080 Speaker 2: And then he comes off of it the third time 183 00:08:38,120 --> 00:08:39,800 Speaker 2: in the Red Sea Party, then he went down and 184 00:08:39,840 --> 00:08:42,760 Speaker 2: dunked it. But I think he's going to be able 185 00:08:42,800 --> 00:08:45,360 Speaker 2: to create offense, not just with his own shot, but 186 00:08:45,400 --> 00:08:47,480 Speaker 2: I think he can create offense for everybody else because 187 00:08:47,480 --> 00:08:48,880 Speaker 2: he is a pretty good decision maker. 188 00:08:49,040 --> 00:08:51,640 Speaker 1: All right, Let's get to the turnovers. Twenty four of 189 00:08:51,679 --> 00:08:54,760 Speaker 1: them in the game. You said you would review that 190 00:08:54,880 --> 00:08:57,160 Speaker 1: the next day when you watched the tape and talk 191 00:08:57,160 --> 00:08:59,560 Speaker 1: about it with the players. What stood out? What much 192 00:08:59,559 --> 00:09:00,640 Speaker 1: do you do to that number? 193 00:09:00,679 --> 00:09:01,040 Speaker 4: Way down? 194 00:09:02,080 --> 00:09:03,920 Speaker 2: Well, what stood out is that we won a game. 195 00:09:03,960 --> 00:09:06,880 Speaker 2: We had twenty four turnouts, and I told I said, 196 00:09:06,880 --> 00:09:09,040 Speaker 2: after the game, that'll go in the book one day. 197 00:09:09,280 --> 00:09:12,200 Speaker 2: There's some that stick out. I think I embellished and 198 00:09:12,200 --> 00:09:15,079 Speaker 2: it wasn't on purpose. But we gave up sixteen threes 199 00:09:15,120 --> 00:09:17,360 Speaker 2: and a half one time at the Citadel, and I 200 00:09:17,400 --> 00:09:19,880 Speaker 2: think we gave eight in the second half. So it's 201 00:09:19,920 --> 00:09:23,080 Speaker 2: twenty four for the game, and we won the game. 202 00:09:23,480 --> 00:09:26,440 Speaker 2: And I'll never forget that game because we gave up 203 00:09:26,480 --> 00:09:28,960 Speaker 2: twenty four threes and we won the game. It'll be 204 00:09:29,080 --> 00:09:31,640 Speaker 2: like that when this date and games talked about, you know, seven, eight, 205 00:09:31,800 --> 00:09:34,200 Speaker 2: ten years from now. We turned it over twenty four 206 00:09:34,280 --> 00:09:36,040 Speaker 2: dang times. By the way, we weren't very good from 207 00:09:36,040 --> 00:09:39,520 Speaker 2: the free throw line either. And then we had Day 208 00:09:39,559 --> 00:09:42,280 Speaker 2: Day twelve for twelve and I think sincere was the 209 00:09:42,320 --> 00:09:46,080 Speaker 2: eight for ten. Am I right about that? But we 210 00:09:46,160 --> 00:09:48,120 Speaker 2: won the game, and that means you had to do 211 00:09:48,160 --> 00:09:50,520 Speaker 2: a lot of other good stuff, and so there was 212 00:09:50,559 --> 00:09:52,640 Speaker 2: some good stuff even though heck we turned it over. Yes, 213 00:09:52,679 --> 00:09:54,400 Speaker 2: we did address it in film. We can't be a 214 00:09:54,400 --> 00:09:56,959 Speaker 2: team that's careless with the ball. There's two types of 215 00:09:57,000 --> 00:09:59,120 Speaker 2: turnovers that you don't want to live with as a coach. 216 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:02,480 Speaker 2: One is selfish turnover. I didn't see any of that. 217 00:10:02,920 --> 00:10:06,440 Speaker 2: The second is a casual, careless turnover. We had a 218 00:10:06,480 --> 00:10:08,679 Speaker 2: bunch of those. We had a bunch of those. I 219 00:10:08,760 --> 00:10:11,360 Speaker 2: mean some of them trying to break the press, some 220 00:10:11,440 --> 00:10:15,240 Speaker 2: of them footwork airs, some of them passing and catching airs. 221 00:10:15,320 --> 00:10:18,800 Speaker 2: I mean, it wasn't one specific thing, but this thing 222 00:10:18,840 --> 00:10:21,800 Speaker 2: that was consistent was careless and casual. Good news. You 223 00:10:21,800 --> 00:10:25,000 Speaker 2: can clean up careless and casual, but we can't expect 224 00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:26,360 Speaker 2: to be the team we want to be every night. 225 00:10:26,360 --> 00:10:28,160 Speaker 2: If we're going to turn the ball over like that, all. 226 00:10:28,160 --> 00:10:30,679 Speaker 1: Right, well take a time out. Then we'll continue from 227 00:10:30,720 --> 00:10:33,079 Speaker 1: the original Montgomery In Home of the World's Greatest Ribs. 228 00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:36,400 Speaker 1: It's the West Miller Radio Show on seven hundred WLW 229 00:10:38,480 --> 00:10:40,840 Speaker 1: Welcome back to the original Montgomery In Home of the 230 00:10:40,840 --> 00:10:45,640 Speaker 1: World's Greatest ribs, Great Potato chips as well, and the 231 00:10:45,640 --> 00:10:48,680 Speaker 1: West Miller Radio Show here on seven hundred WLW. The 232 00:10:48,679 --> 00:10:52,400 Speaker 1: Bearcats will be back in action this Sunday at six, 233 00:10:52,520 --> 00:10:54,960 Speaker 1: So you can watch the Bengals beat the Steelers first. 234 00:10:57,160 --> 00:11:02,160 Speaker 1: Nobody's excited about that ago. You can watch the Bengals 235 00:11:02,200 --> 00:11:04,240 Speaker 1: beat the Steelers first, then head over the fifth third 236 00:11:04,280 --> 00:11:08,240 Speaker 1: Arena and watch the Bearcats beat hopefully Mount Saint Mary's 237 00:11:08,480 --> 00:11:12,439 Speaker 1: at six o'clock. Yes, let's talk about the performance of 238 00:11:12,480 --> 00:11:14,440 Speaker 1: Dayda A Thomas. We noted the fact that he was 239 00:11:14,480 --> 00:11:16,400 Speaker 1: twelve for twelve from the free throw line and made 240 00:11:16,400 --> 00:11:20,400 Speaker 1: clutch ones down the stretch. But also the defense that 241 00:11:20,520 --> 00:11:22,559 Speaker 1: he played in that game against Javon Bennett was a 242 00:11:22,600 --> 00:11:24,240 Speaker 1: big reason why you beat a good Dating team. 243 00:11:24,520 --> 00:11:26,839 Speaker 2: It was fun Javon Bennett. I thinks first team all 244 00:11:26,840 --> 00:11:27,920 Speaker 2: A ten preseason. 245 00:11:29,520 --> 00:11:30,040 Speaker 4: It's cool. 246 00:11:30,160 --> 00:11:32,400 Speaker 2: You know, there had Day Day and Javon Bennett have 247 00:11:32,440 --> 00:11:37,160 Speaker 2: both been in these programs for three years, so we've watched. Obviously, 248 00:11:37,240 --> 00:11:39,920 Speaker 2: it's been fun to coach Dada for extended period of time, 249 00:11:39,960 --> 00:11:42,360 Speaker 2: and then you've played against Date in three years and 250 00:11:42,360 --> 00:11:44,120 Speaker 2: you see a kid like Bennett, how much better he's 251 00:11:44,160 --> 00:11:47,760 Speaker 2: gotten every year. That's the old college basketball, and that's 252 00:11:47,760 --> 00:11:50,760 Speaker 2: still neat when it happens. But watching those two compete 253 00:11:50,840 --> 00:11:54,880 Speaker 2: was fun, and I thought Dada had a really nice game, 254 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:58,840 Speaker 2: and I think it's a sign he's confident again, he's 255 00:11:58,880 --> 00:12:01,800 Speaker 2: healthy again. I think he's in a role on this 256 00:12:01,880 --> 00:12:06,680 Speaker 2: team that really suits who he is, and so I 257 00:12:06,679 --> 00:12:08,280 Speaker 2: think he's gonna have a lot of nights like that. 258 00:12:08,679 --> 00:12:11,720 Speaker 3: To the media creation team at Cincinnati for Basketball does 259 00:12:11,760 --> 00:12:14,000 Speaker 3: a great job of capturing moments, putting music to it 260 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:19,120 Speaker 3: dramatic effect. And for Kerr, Chris talked about they were 261 00:12:19,200 --> 00:12:22,160 Speaker 3: in the locker room and you had Day Day coming 262 00:12:22,200 --> 00:12:23,079 Speaker 3: in there, and he's all for. 263 00:12:23,080 --> 00:12:23,720 Speaker 4: The full lather. 264 00:12:23,840 --> 00:12:25,640 Speaker 3: He goes, Man, you're gonna go for thirty tonight hunt. 265 00:12:25,679 --> 00:12:29,000 Speaker 3: He goes, No, my job is to lock down Carter Javon. 266 00:12:29,679 --> 00:12:32,760 Speaker 3: Lock him down. And the mentality that he took is 267 00:12:32,880 --> 00:12:37,000 Speaker 3: like when you knew he had dayDay coming back, you 268 00:12:37,080 --> 00:12:39,520 Speaker 3: were good because you knew you had your signal caller. 269 00:12:39,760 --> 00:12:41,520 Speaker 3: You had the guy that has the same mind as you, 270 00:12:41,600 --> 00:12:43,560 Speaker 3: just wants to do anything it takes to win, and 271 00:12:43,600 --> 00:12:45,760 Speaker 3: a guy who's been through the ups and downs and 272 00:12:45,840 --> 00:12:48,840 Speaker 3: will do anything in order to get that w in 273 00:12:48,920 --> 00:12:50,320 Speaker 3: following the coach's commands. 274 00:12:51,040 --> 00:12:53,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, guys. Somebody asked me that they can you know, 275 00:12:53,360 --> 00:12:55,840 Speaker 2: what kind of value do you have with Dade Thomas 276 00:12:55,880 --> 00:12:58,640 Speaker 2: And I can't. I got no words for that. I mean, 277 00:12:58,720 --> 00:13:02,920 Speaker 2: his value is beyond comprehension. And there's things that he 278 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:06,120 Speaker 2: does for our program that nobody gets to see because 279 00:13:06,120 --> 00:13:08,520 Speaker 2: they're behind the scenes. And I think we have a 280 00:13:08,520 --> 00:13:12,160 Speaker 2: captain circle and before the game, if everybody gets there early, 281 00:13:12,760 --> 00:13:15,160 Speaker 2: go go watch that captain circle. Next game, it'd be 282 00:13:15,160 --> 00:13:16,920 Speaker 2: good to have everybody in the seats that early. But 283 00:13:18,960 --> 00:13:21,280 Speaker 2: he's the only guy that goes, and that there's a 284 00:13:21,280 --> 00:13:24,480 Speaker 2: reason for that. I mean, he's been the consummate leader 285 00:13:25,040 --> 00:13:28,320 Speaker 2: in this program, represents what we're about. So having him 286 00:13:28,400 --> 00:13:29,720 Speaker 2: is a big deal for us. For sure. 287 00:13:30,320 --> 00:13:32,480 Speaker 1: He got a year an extra year of eligibility this 288 00:13:32,559 --> 00:13:36,080 Speaker 1: year because of a law case, a lawsuit last year 289 00:13:36,120 --> 00:13:40,280 Speaker 1: filed by the guy who's playing quarterback for Vanderbilt, Diego Pavia. 290 00:13:40,440 --> 00:13:41,679 Speaker 2: Were you aware in. 291 00:13:41,679 --> 00:13:44,240 Speaker 1: The process of that that there was a chance the 292 00:13:44,320 --> 00:13:46,480 Speaker 1: day they would get another year or when the ruling 293 00:13:46,600 --> 00:13:49,560 Speaker 1: came down then, did it occur to you, hey, this 294 00:13:49,679 --> 00:13:51,199 Speaker 1: might apply to him. 295 00:13:51,280 --> 00:13:53,959 Speaker 2: It was kind of more like that. Like now, I 296 00:13:54,080 --> 00:13:56,680 Speaker 2: tell you what, there's been times that I think me 297 00:13:56,720 --> 00:13:58,240 Speaker 2: and Terry just need to go hire a lawyer and 298 00:13:58,280 --> 00:14:00,200 Speaker 2: we get some eligibility back. 299 00:14:00,360 --> 00:14:02,320 Speaker 4: I mean, I went, I got two years left, man, 300 00:14:02,559 --> 00:14:03,480 Speaker 4: somebody take the charge. 301 00:14:03,559 --> 00:14:04,560 Speaker 2: Seriously, let's go. 302 00:14:06,120 --> 00:14:06,719 Speaker 4: At nine to one. 303 00:14:06,800 --> 00:14:09,240 Speaker 3: Would have one button to push left after I take 304 00:14:09,320 --> 00:14:10,360 Speaker 3: my first charge. 305 00:14:10,080 --> 00:14:11,160 Speaker 2: We'd be good in the half court. 306 00:14:11,360 --> 00:14:13,920 Speaker 4: We would there you go, YMC pick league. 307 00:14:14,320 --> 00:14:17,319 Speaker 2: I can still play zone offense. I've said that that's 308 00:14:17,360 --> 00:14:20,080 Speaker 2: the one part of practice I can impress you. Yeah, 309 00:14:20,120 --> 00:14:24,160 Speaker 2: I can just keep backing up and shoot. But but but, 310 00:14:24,160 --> 00:14:25,680 Speaker 2: but no. I think it was a little bit of 311 00:14:25,720 --> 00:14:28,440 Speaker 2: that that we just assumed, as everybody did, that day 312 00:14:28,480 --> 00:14:30,520 Speaker 2: Day was going to be done. And when all that 313 00:14:30,520 --> 00:14:33,600 Speaker 2: stuff started to happen, when WHOA this is apply to dayDay? 314 00:14:33,680 --> 00:14:36,800 Speaker 2: Thomas and we talked. I think it was right around Christmas, 315 00:14:36,840 --> 00:14:38,960 Speaker 2: if I'm not mistaken. But we got back from Christmas 316 00:14:38,960 --> 00:14:40,320 Speaker 2: and I sat him down and I just said, Hey, 317 00:14:40,320 --> 00:14:43,000 Speaker 2: I just want you to know that if this all 318 00:14:43,040 --> 00:14:44,840 Speaker 2: goes how I'm hearing it's going to go, I want 319 00:14:44,880 --> 00:14:46,760 Speaker 2: you back at Cincinnati. You don't even need to question 320 00:14:46,840 --> 00:14:50,040 Speaker 2: that for one second. So I'm really glad it's all 321 00:14:50,040 --> 00:14:50,480 Speaker 2: worked out. 322 00:14:50,840 --> 00:14:53,880 Speaker 3: Coach, let me let me lay something out and just 323 00:14:53,920 --> 00:14:56,960 Speaker 3: to talk about how good I believe this team is. 324 00:14:57,840 --> 00:15:02,200 Speaker 3: Twenty four turnovers, twenty five per foles, fourteen miss free throws, 325 00:15:02,200 --> 00:15:04,160 Speaker 3: many of those were one and ones front ends of 326 00:15:04,200 --> 00:15:08,320 Speaker 3: one and ones. And your best player, Baba Miller, Well, 327 00:15:08,320 --> 00:15:10,280 Speaker 3: I believe he's the best player. He had eight points, 328 00:15:10,280 --> 00:15:11,920 Speaker 3: He didn't really have a good game, and he didn't 329 00:15:11,920 --> 00:15:12,760 Speaker 3: score in the first half. 330 00:15:13,160 --> 00:15:15,120 Speaker 4: He rebounded well, he did a lot of things well, 331 00:15:15,120 --> 00:15:16,360 Speaker 4: it just didn't score the ball well. 332 00:15:16,880 --> 00:15:19,560 Speaker 3: Yet you played a pesky Dayton team that will finish 333 00:15:19,680 --> 00:15:21,800 Speaker 3: in the top twenty five, they will win their conference. 334 00:15:22,080 --> 00:15:25,960 Speaker 4: You beat them by twelve. So it's like everybody sees 335 00:15:26,000 --> 00:15:26,600 Speaker 4: the sky. 336 00:15:26,440 --> 00:15:30,960 Speaker 3: Falling, and I'm saying, all that stuff happened and they 337 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:31,880 Speaker 3: won by twelve. 338 00:15:32,080 --> 00:15:34,040 Speaker 4: How good can this team be? What's their ceiling? 339 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:37,360 Speaker 2: Well, I think I think we have a lot of 340 00:15:37,400 --> 00:15:40,600 Speaker 2: confidence this can be a very very good team, Terry. 341 00:15:40,600 --> 00:15:43,400 Speaker 2: I think we have a lot of confidence that this 342 00:15:43,480 --> 00:15:46,040 Speaker 2: team is going to have the ability to keep taking 343 00:15:46,080 --> 00:15:49,640 Speaker 2: consistent steps and be its best team in January and February. 344 00:15:49,960 --> 00:15:54,200 Speaker 2: We have so many new pieces. We're still trying to 345 00:15:54,240 --> 00:15:58,120 Speaker 2: figure out how all that goes together. We're from a 346 00:15:58,200 --> 00:15:59,880 Speaker 2: normal what I would call a normal year when you 347 00:15:59,880 --> 00:16:03,240 Speaker 2: have continuity. We're so far behind on things we might 348 00:16:03,280 --> 00:16:06,280 Speaker 2: have in offensively and defensively, not for the wrong reason, 349 00:16:06,440 --> 00:16:09,560 Speaker 2: just because you can't skip the steps. And so I 350 00:16:09,560 --> 00:16:11,480 Speaker 2: think it's I'm having a ton of fun at the 351 00:16:11,480 --> 00:16:14,840 Speaker 2: moment coaching because I don't even think we're close to 352 00:16:14,880 --> 00:16:17,640 Speaker 2: where we could be now. I have an urgency to 353 00:16:17,680 --> 00:16:19,840 Speaker 2: get there quickly, but I think this can be by 354 00:16:19,840 --> 00:16:21,600 Speaker 2: the end. I think this can be a very very 355 00:16:21,600 --> 00:16:24,480 Speaker 2: good basketball team and a ceiling. I'd be too early 356 00:16:24,560 --> 00:16:26,680 Speaker 2: for me to say what that is, but it's a 357 00:16:26,680 --> 00:16:28,720 Speaker 2: lot higher than where we are right now. For sure. 358 00:16:29,160 --> 00:16:31,720 Speaker 1: There's an old saying in baseball when a guy gets 359 00:16:31,800 --> 00:16:35,560 Speaker 1: off to a terrible start in April, he'll eventually play 360 00:16:35,640 --> 00:16:37,960 Speaker 1: to the back of his baseball card. In other words, 361 00:16:38,200 --> 00:16:40,160 Speaker 1: if you are a career two eighty hitter by the 362 00:16:40,240 --> 00:16:41,440 Speaker 1: end of the year, you're going to be closed to 363 00:16:41,480 --> 00:16:44,320 Speaker 1: too eighty. Does that apply to free throw shooting, because 364 00:16:44,360 --> 00:16:46,280 Speaker 1: you've got some guys that are off to slow starts. 365 00:16:46,280 --> 00:16:50,040 Speaker 1: It's only three games, but just as an example, Mustapha 366 00:16:50,120 --> 00:16:53,480 Speaker 1: Chom shot him pretty well last year at UCF. He 367 00:16:53,600 --> 00:16:56,920 Speaker 1: shot them poorly so far this year. Do you assume 368 00:16:57,280 --> 00:17:00,000 Speaker 1: that eventually he plays to the back of the baseball card. 369 00:17:00,720 --> 00:17:04,760 Speaker 2: He'll play above the baseball card shooting the ball. He's 370 00:17:04,800 --> 00:17:07,800 Speaker 2: an improved shooter. So again, we have such a small 371 00:17:07,840 --> 00:17:11,520 Speaker 2: sample size. And you know, free throw shooting is like putting. 372 00:17:12,440 --> 00:17:15,720 Speaker 2: You know, it's like putting in golf. It's mental. I 373 00:17:15,720 --> 00:17:18,160 Speaker 2: always said free throw shooting is different. It's the one 374 00:17:18,200 --> 00:17:20,280 Speaker 2: time in our game you shoot the ball where the 375 00:17:20,440 --> 00:17:23,520 Speaker 2: other nine people are standing still. You know, that's a 376 00:17:23,560 --> 00:17:27,479 Speaker 2: different sensation and so guys can get in some slumps 377 00:17:27,480 --> 00:17:29,800 Speaker 2: free throw shooting. I think some of it's maybe just 378 00:17:29,840 --> 00:17:32,720 Speaker 2: a little bit mental. But if you watch Mustafa shoot 379 00:17:32,720 --> 00:17:36,639 Speaker 2: a free throw, he has fluid, fluid motion. When he misses, 380 00:17:36,680 --> 00:17:39,760 Speaker 2: he's missing small, he's missing soft. That tells you all 381 00:17:39,760 --> 00:17:41,480 Speaker 2: you need to know. He's a good free throw shooter. 382 00:17:42,119 --> 00:17:44,399 Speaker 2: He's a good three point shooter. I'm not. I have 383 00:17:44,480 --> 00:17:46,600 Speaker 2: no concern about that same thing with Baba, and they 384 00:17:46,640 --> 00:17:49,479 Speaker 2: were I think a combined one for eight together correct 385 00:17:49,520 --> 00:17:51,760 Speaker 2: in the game, and I mean Seanna Baya was four 386 00:17:51,840 --> 00:17:55,640 Speaker 2: for eight. We have a free throw board. We still 387 00:17:55,680 --> 00:17:57,639 Speaker 2: we do it the whole offseason. We're doing it throughout 388 00:17:57,640 --> 00:18:01,080 Speaker 2: the season. They have to get a record three hundred 389 00:18:01,119 --> 00:18:05,320 Speaker 2: makes a week. So they obviously can shoot as many 390 00:18:05,320 --> 00:18:07,320 Speaker 2: as they want, but a minimum, every player has to 391 00:18:07,359 --> 00:18:12,040 Speaker 2: record three hundred I'm sorry, yeah, three hundred attempts my mistake, 392 00:18:12,760 --> 00:18:15,280 Speaker 2: and it has to be recorded with the coach and 393 00:18:15,320 --> 00:18:18,119 Speaker 2: then we chart all that and posted on the board. 394 00:18:18,720 --> 00:18:22,359 Speaker 2: And for example, last year's team, the weekly average of 395 00:18:22,400 --> 00:18:26,560 Speaker 2: the team was usually in the seventies. And from my experience, 396 00:18:26,600 --> 00:18:29,840 Speaker 2: that's a bad sign because you're gonna shoot better in 397 00:18:29,960 --> 00:18:32,120 Speaker 2: practice than you are in the game, especially when you're 398 00:18:32,200 --> 00:18:35,840 Speaker 2: repetitively shooting. This year's team we push in the high 399 00:18:35,920 --> 00:18:40,120 Speaker 2: eighties low nineties as a team, and so we are 400 00:18:40,320 --> 00:18:43,800 Speaker 2: a significantly better team in practice or in our free 401 00:18:43,800 --> 00:18:47,560 Speaker 2: throw competitions. It'll carry over. I'm not concerned. 402 00:18:48,280 --> 00:18:51,720 Speaker 1: And Shanabayev, for what it's worth, probably was out on 403 00:18:51,760 --> 00:18:54,720 Speaker 1: the court for an hour after the game shooting free throws. 404 00:18:54,760 --> 00:18:57,800 Speaker 2: Both baskets him and I watched his minutes together, and 405 00:18:57,920 --> 00:18:59,560 Speaker 2: I did give him a hard time. I said, yeah, 406 00:18:59,560 --> 00:19:01,840 Speaker 2: somebody when you're out there shooting free throws, because I 407 00:19:01,880 --> 00:19:05,800 Speaker 2: know how he's so serious about his craft. He's so 408 00:19:05,960 --> 00:19:08,320 Speaker 2: beyond his years in terms of he's disciplined to work 409 00:19:08,320 --> 00:19:10,000 Speaker 2: on his game. I said, I'd have been more impressed 410 00:19:10,040 --> 00:19:11,639 Speaker 2: if you're out there doing defensive slides. 411 00:19:14,880 --> 00:19:15,600 Speaker 4: He didn't answer that. 412 00:19:15,640 --> 00:19:21,879 Speaker 5: I guarantee you he's smirked, coach when I look at you, 413 00:19:21,880 --> 00:19:24,560 Speaker 5: know when you sub in, obviously, guys come in with 414 00:19:24,560 --> 00:19:26,600 Speaker 5: different superpowers, and they come in with different things. 415 00:19:27,080 --> 00:19:28,360 Speaker 4: It doesn't get charted a lot. 416 00:19:28,400 --> 00:19:30,760 Speaker 3: But I think the minute that Tyler McKinley gives you 417 00:19:31,400 --> 00:19:33,600 Speaker 3: how he catches the ball, he doesn't rush shots in 418 00:19:33,640 --> 00:19:36,800 Speaker 3: the paint, he finds shooters that are lower like he's 419 00:19:36,880 --> 00:19:39,800 Speaker 3: very good at offensive rebounds and looking for that second 420 00:19:39,880 --> 00:19:42,320 Speaker 3: chance opportunity from the three point line. And I know 421 00:19:42,359 --> 00:19:44,440 Speaker 3: you see his rotations. He had two files and help 422 00:19:44,520 --> 00:19:47,040 Speaker 3: defense that weren't his, but he was trying to make 423 00:19:47,040 --> 00:19:49,479 Speaker 3: play walling up and just got caught. But he seems 424 00:19:49,480 --> 00:19:51,760 Speaker 3: when he comes in the game, he does exactly what 425 00:19:51,800 --> 00:19:53,320 Speaker 3: you want him to do while he's in the game. 426 00:19:54,040 --> 00:19:57,000 Speaker 2: If they made him all like Tyler McKinley, coaching would 427 00:19:57,000 --> 00:20:01,640 Speaker 2: be easy because he's just a fra freshman. But he's 428 00:20:01,640 --> 00:20:06,800 Speaker 2: in the right place at the right time. He's extremely intelligent, 429 00:20:07,240 --> 00:20:11,240 Speaker 2: very coachable, He'll he's willing to do whatever he thinks 430 00:20:11,280 --> 00:20:15,760 Speaker 2: the team needs him to do. And he's extremely gifted. 431 00:20:16,160 --> 00:20:17,720 Speaker 2: You know, I've shoot I've had players I could say 432 00:20:17,760 --> 00:20:19,760 Speaker 2: all that stuff about, but they weren't talented, and he's 433 00:20:19,800 --> 00:20:23,400 Speaker 2: got all that in talent, And so if they were 434 00:20:23,400 --> 00:20:25,880 Speaker 2: all like him, our jobs be pretty easy. But he's 435 00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:28,680 Speaker 2: he's been fun and it's crazy because I feel like 436 00:20:28,720 --> 00:20:33,160 Speaker 2: I've known him, you know, forever, literally since I got here. 437 00:20:33,480 --> 00:20:36,200 Speaker 2: But he's just a freshman, and that that's pretty that's 438 00:20:36,240 --> 00:20:37,920 Speaker 2: pretty cool for Cincinnati basketball. 439 00:20:38,320 --> 00:20:40,640 Speaker 1: Kirk Risa had eight assists in the game. He also 440 00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:43,040 Speaker 1: had five turnovers, A couple of the turnovers late in 441 00:20:43,080 --> 00:20:44,960 Speaker 1: the game where when he was trying to make a 442 00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:47,760 Speaker 1: play with flair behind the back bounce pass on a 443 00:20:47,800 --> 00:20:51,199 Speaker 1: fast break, stuff like that. Do you encourage that? Is 444 00:20:51,280 --> 00:20:57,040 Speaker 1: its situational? I mean, is it? I'm I'm serious? 445 00:20:57,160 --> 00:20:57,880 Speaker 4: Is that okay? 446 00:20:58,760 --> 00:21:01,480 Speaker 1: Does it depend on time and score? How do you 447 00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:04,080 Speaker 1: feel about guys that that play with flair like that? 448 00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:07,160 Speaker 2: The goat Dan board, I want to throw fire back 449 00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:09,560 Speaker 2: at him, yeah, Dan, and I encourage guys to throw 450 00:21:09,680 --> 00:21:12,760 Speaker 2: behind the back past twelve with a minute left. 451 00:21:12,800 --> 00:21:17,360 Speaker 1: I mean, you know specifically that. I mean, I don't 452 00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:19,640 Speaker 1: want to use the word hot dog plays because there's 453 00:21:19,680 --> 00:21:21,360 Speaker 1: a negative connotation there. 454 00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:24,840 Speaker 2: But well that's his play was a hot dog player, 455 00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:27,399 Speaker 2: and it needs a negative connotation because it was a 456 00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:30,440 Speaker 2: terrible play. My college coach texted me after the game, 457 00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:34,960 Speaker 2: you know, great win, congratulations at the around the one 458 00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:40,199 Speaker 2: minute mark, I wanted to shoot your point and you know, 459 00:21:40,280 --> 00:21:44,199 Speaker 2: any any put in brackets creasing and and so the 460 00:21:44,240 --> 00:21:46,800 Speaker 2: next day in film I read that to the whole team. 461 00:21:47,080 --> 00:21:49,320 Speaker 2: So this is what my college coach texted me after 462 00:21:49,359 --> 00:21:56,399 Speaker 2: the game, but uh, but no, I I think listen, 463 00:21:56,600 --> 00:22:00,919 Speaker 2: Kerkkrisa has a flair, yes, uh uh. He has a 464 00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:04,720 Speaker 2: swagger and a confidence to how he approaches the game, 465 00:22:04,760 --> 00:22:07,879 Speaker 2: and he's got a lot of experience in college basketball 466 00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:12,639 Speaker 2: on the biggest stages. That that flare, that confidence, that 467 00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:17,120 Speaker 2: edge that he plays with is his greatest strength. There's 468 00:22:17,160 --> 00:22:19,360 Speaker 2: times that that can be a weakness, and as he's 469 00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:21,920 Speaker 2: continuing to mature as a point guard, that's my challenge 470 00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:23,960 Speaker 2: to him is I don't want to restrict any of 471 00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:27,439 Speaker 2: that in the positive ways, but let's not let's finish games, 472 00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:31,720 Speaker 2: let's make sound plays and uh like it's it's fun 473 00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:34,560 Speaker 2: because he's an old dog in college basketball, but he 474 00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:36,120 Speaker 2: can still improve. 475 00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:39,600 Speaker 3: Coach, And your greatest strength is not showing facial expressions 476 00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:41,000 Speaker 3: when he's making those plays. 477 00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:42,560 Speaker 4: I'm looking at you. 478 00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:44,200 Speaker 3: As soon as he made that behind the back pass 479 00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:45,920 Speaker 3: and it goes out on a three on one, I'm 480 00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:47,280 Speaker 3: looking at you and you just stood still. 481 00:22:47,320 --> 00:22:50,040 Speaker 4: You were throwing face, but inside you like a duck 482 00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:50,440 Speaker 4: on water. 483 00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:52,359 Speaker 3: I mean it looks good on top, but you're kicking 484 00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:54,400 Speaker 3: and squirming underneath that surface. 485 00:22:54,600 --> 00:22:57,399 Speaker 4: I know something was going on there competitive. 486 00:22:57,280 --> 00:23:00,440 Speaker 2: Oh Man, Now in the Georgia State game, just toot 487 00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:02,040 Speaker 2: and hollered and yelled at him the whole I was 488 00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:04,720 Speaker 2: trying to make some points, so you couldn't say it 489 00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:07,200 Speaker 2: about me all the time, but I was a maniac 490 00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:10,880 Speaker 2: in that game. But we were still listen, it's early 491 00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:13,639 Speaker 2: in the year and we're still We're still trying to 492 00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:15,639 Speaker 2: build this team. So there's gonna be some moments to 493 00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:18,159 Speaker 2: really push and there's gonna be some moments like that 494 00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:20,280 Speaker 2: where I was probably doing my woosaws and taking a 495 00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:22,880 Speaker 2: deep breath and wait until nobody could see it. Him 496 00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:24,040 Speaker 2: and I could have a conversation. 497 00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:26,560 Speaker 1: All right, we're late for a break. Questions from the audience. 498 00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:28,800 Speaker 1: When we come back, it's the Westmeller Radio Show on 499 00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:36,880 Speaker 1: seven hundred WLW. I get the original Montgomery in home 500 00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:39,400 Speaker 1: of the World's Greatest Ribs, and the West Miller Radio 501 00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:42,840 Speaker 1: Show here on seven hundred WLW, and the Bearcats back 502 00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:45,000 Speaker 1: in action on Sunday, looking to approve to four and 503 00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:48,160 Speaker 1: oh as they host Mount Saint Mary's. That's six o'clock 504 00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:51,560 Speaker 1: tip on Sunday at the Third Arena. Time for questions 505 00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:55,000 Speaker 1: from the audience. Our man Elliott was not in attendance 506 00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:58,040 Speaker 1: last week. Good to have him back. He's got Mike 507 00:23:58,119 --> 00:23:59,520 Speaker 1: in hand, he's ready to. 508 00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:04,160 Speaker 6: Go, so free with and I was just being free 509 00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:06,560 Speaker 6: agency at this point. Do you ever go after guys 510 00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:08,520 Speaker 6: assuming they're going to stay there full four years of 511 00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:11,040 Speaker 6: college with you, or that they're just going to be 512 00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:13,760 Speaker 6: a one and done. How do you go about recruiting 513 00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:14,680 Speaker 6: guys with that? 514 00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:19,679 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think in recruiting, you know, obviously we're just 515 00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:24,240 Speaker 2: very honest. That's first, first and foremost. We're very honest, 516 00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:27,520 Speaker 2: and certainly we want guys that are going to want 517 00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:31,040 Speaker 2: to stay in our program build year to year. You 518 00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:34,080 Speaker 2: do see this trend of retention and how valuable that 519 00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:36,840 Speaker 2: is and how difficult it is, but how valuable. So 520 00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:40,119 Speaker 2: we were honest about what our intentions are when it 521 00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:42,639 Speaker 2: comes to one and done or how many and done. 522 00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:47,520 Speaker 2: You know, for college basketball players, this is not their 523 00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:50,399 Speaker 2: end game. All of their goals is to play in 524 00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:53,720 Speaker 2: the NBA. So if they can get the opportunity to 525 00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:56,840 Speaker 2: leave early to do that, that's the biggest win in 526 00:24:56,880 --> 00:24:59,360 Speaker 2: their lives and their family's lives. So we always support 527 00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:00,639 Speaker 2: that and we all always want that. 528 00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:04,679 Speaker 6: So would day they be like a good example of 529 00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:07,080 Speaker 6: a guy that you went after and he ended up 530 00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:08,200 Speaker 6: staying the full four years. 531 00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:13,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, Deda's a great example of that. Yeah, correct, all. 532 00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:16,440 Speaker 1: Right, Ellieah, thank you. We have the assistant coach from 533 00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:20,439 Speaker 1: section two o six two seven, two o seven. I 534 00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:21,440 Speaker 1: thought it was two o six. 535 00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:22,119 Speaker 4: Have you moved? 536 00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:25,359 Speaker 7: I wasn't moved in a different seat last week or 537 00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:28,840 Speaker 7: what was that Tuesday? Thanks to Terry Nelson. I had 538 00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:31,840 Speaker 7: a colleague in town that loved to come into a 539 00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:34,720 Speaker 7: Bearcats game. So there's been a promotion in two oh 540 00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:40,040 Speaker 7: seven though I am the captain co assistant assistant coach 541 00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:45,879 Speaker 7: to do UC Bearcats and Courtney as the assistant. Yeah, 542 00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:51,399 Speaker 7: so I'm the speaker anyways. So our question is, you know, 543 00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:55,280 Speaker 7: when you think about last year, you know, we definitely 544 00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:57,760 Speaker 7: had a gap with leadership, and I know we had 545 00:25:57,800 --> 00:26:01,159 Speaker 7: several conversations. He just needs someone at that time to 546 00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:03,720 Speaker 7: just take the bomb, be like we're gonna win and 547 00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:05,960 Speaker 7: put it through me. And I know I'd heard that 548 00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:10,959 Speaker 7: through other coaches when we would struggle, and so this year, really, 549 00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:16,240 Speaker 7: did you have someone immediately that kind of rose through 550 00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:18,760 Speaker 7: in practice over the last several months that was like 551 00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:21,879 Speaker 7: he's our leader or how did that really come about 552 00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:22,879 Speaker 7: for this season? 553 00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:28,919 Speaker 2: Well, I think I think if people want to define 554 00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:32,520 Speaker 2: the leader, I think everybody likes that narrative that this 555 00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:35,560 Speaker 2: guy is the leader. I think on the greatest teams 556 00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:38,480 Speaker 2: I've ever been a part of that, there's a bunch 557 00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:43,520 Speaker 2: of leadership roles within the team, and people lead in 558 00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:48,080 Speaker 2: different ways and in different areas. I think so far 559 00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:51,360 Speaker 2: this year, Dade showed a lot of leadership and he's 560 00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:53,960 Speaker 2: been He's not a vocal person. I mean, he's an introvert, 561 00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:56,840 Speaker 2: but he's been far more vocal than I've ever seen him, 562 00:26:56,920 --> 00:27:01,040 Speaker 2: especially when something needs to be said. Certainly, he's always 563 00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:03,520 Speaker 2: been a leader by example and how he approaches things, 564 00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:07,359 Speaker 2: but he has such an understanding now of winning. Kerr 565 00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:11,119 Speaker 2: has leadership ability. He is very vocal, and he has 566 00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:13,200 Speaker 2: a lot of experience and it's been a part of 567 00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:16,600 Speaker 2: a bunch of success in college. I think Jalen Celestine 568 00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:19,560 Speaker 2: in his own way, just because of his experience and 569 00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:23,080 Speaker 2: he's got away with people and a confidence about him. 570 00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:27,040 Speaker 2: I think him starting to play and get out in practice. 571 00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:29,640 Speaker 2: I think that that role will emerge a little bit 572 00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:36,119 Speaker 2: more sincere Harris has that mentality that I think people 573 00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:38,960 Speaker 2: can follow that. He's not afraid of anything. You know, 574 00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:43,399 Speaker 2: he'll attack any situation and certainly has experience. And I 575 00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:47,800 Speaker 2: could keeping even Keishan Tillery and Seanabaye of there. They're 576 00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:50,920 Speaker 2: they're alpha's right, and so they're young and they're trying 577 00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:52,960 Speaker 2: to figure it out, but they're not people that take 578 00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:55,520 Speaker 2: a back seat. And I think the more of that 579 00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:58,359 Speaker 2: that we can have, as long as everybody sees the 580 00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:01,400 Speaker 2: big picture of the team, I think that creates a 581 00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:03,400 Speaker 2: locker room fill of leadership. And I know I'm leaving 582 00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:05,240 Speaker 2: some guys out, but I think it's a collective thing. 583 00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:07,080 Speaker 2: I've seen a lot of that. I don't want to 584 00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:09,400 Speaker 2: always compare it to last year or anything like that, 585 00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:11,800 Speaker 2: but I've seen a lot of that this year, more 586 00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:13,880 Speaker 2: so than I have in anytimes I've been the coach here. 587 00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:18,639 Speaker 8: Dave Hey coach the game the other night, Obviously a 588 00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:22,280 Speaker 8: lot of fouls were called and it just seemed like 589 00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:25,359 Speaker 8: the game was the flow was not there. How hard 590 00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:27,800 Speaker 8: is that when it seems like they're calling a foul 591 00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:32,159 Speaker 8: on everything to run your offense and you know, just 592 00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:33,600 Speaker 8: keep a keep a flow. 593 00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:35,880 Speaker 2: Going, you know, I've turned games on here the last 594 00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:38,560 Speaker 2: week or so, and you're seeing that I turned the 595 00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:41,200 Speaker 2: game on last night. It was a two and a 596 00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:44,840 Speaker 2: half hour game. It's I don't I don't know what 597 00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:47,320 Speaker 2: it is, Dave. I mean, my guess is that the 598 00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:53,440 Speaker 2: officials have been given some you know, guide guidelines to 599 00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:55,640 Speaker 2: call every you know, like the set of tone early 600 00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:57,480 Speaker 2: in the year, because it's not just our game. You 601 00:28:57,480 --> 00:29:01,200 Speaker 2: see it in all these games and it's extremely frustrating. 602 00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:04,760 Speaker 2: But this is probably politically incorrect, but I just this 603 00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:08,640 Speaker 2: is my opinion. I don't know anything. I probably get 604 00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:10,840 Speaker 2: in trouble for this, but the TV. As soon as 605 00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:13,440 Speaker 2: the TV people start complaining the games or go too long, 606 00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:15,680 Speaker 2: somebody will tell them to stop calling vowels, you know, 607 00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:18,280 Speaker 2: I mean, and then we know how business works. But 608 00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:21,120 Speaker 2: I don't know that, but I believe that's how it works, 609 00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:24,040 Speaker 2: you know, that type of thing. But it always early 610 00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:25,880 Speaker 2: in the year. Every two or three years, they start 611 00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:28,480 Speaker 2: the year and they it's I don't think it's the 612 00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:31,680 Speaker 2: individual officials. I think there's some guidance that they're supposed 613 00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:34,320 Speaker 2: to do that, and then it always goes back and 614 00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:36,920 Speaker 2: it's it's I just don't like the inconsistency. If they're 615 00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:39,200 Speaker 2: gonna call it like that all year. Great, let's all adjust. 616 00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:41,720 Speaker 2: But there's no way they're gonna call a Big twelve 617 00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:45,160 Speaker 2: game like that. There's just no way. It'll be a bloodbath, right, 618 00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:48,200 Speaker 2: you know. And I should have had an official tell me, 619 00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:51,560 Speaker 2: you know, three years ago we had a kid get 620 00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:57,040 Speaker 2: hit across the face, bloody nose and I and I said, 621 00:29:57,040 --> 00:29:59,320 Speaker 2: that's a foul. He said, not in the Big twelve. 622 00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:04,640 Speaker 2: And then you know, and then sometimes you feel like 623 00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:06,600 Speaker 2: every hand checks a foul. And I don't blame it 624 00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:10,040 Speaker 2: on the officials. The rules are really difficult, but the 625 00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:12,600 Speaker 2: consistency is the thing I think as coaches, we all want. 626 00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:19,800 Speaker 9: Brian coach earlier, I've asked you about the exhibition games 627 00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:21,640 Speaker 9: and what you were trying to draw from them. You've 628 00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:25,360 Speaker 9: been on record talking about how you like more and 629 00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:28,840 Speaker 9: you were looking to deal with some adversity as a team, 630 00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:32,920 Speaker 9: like see how you respond to things. I didn't feel 631 00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:36,160 Speaker 9: like you were in danger of losing against Dayton, even 632 00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:38,360 Speaker 9: when it got to two points, but you definitely had 633 00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:41,520 Speaker 9: some adversity. I just wonder is that something that maybe 634 00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:44,520 Speaker 9: stemmed from those exhibition games and some of that adversity 635 00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:46,880 Speaker 9: or is that too focus? 636 00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:50,040 Speaker 2: Is it a little more broad than that. I don't 637 00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:54,200 Speaker 2: know if it's stemmed or not. I know that you 638 00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:59,520 Speaker 2: know we handled some of those stretches. They made runs well. 639 00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:01,320 Speaker 2: For this point in the year with who we are 640 00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:04,640 Speaker 2: as a team, we have to keep handling things well. 641 00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:06,720 Speaker 2: But the more you go through that, the better you 642 00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:13,600 Speaker 2: should get. I do think the exhibitions like if we've changed, right, 643 00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:16,640 Speaker 2: I mean, how many teams have a bunch of new players. 644 00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:19,680 Speaker 2: That's the majority now team. I mean it's like almost 645 00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:23,760 Speaker 2: every team. Well, we're still learning our rotations, We're still 646 00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:26,840 Speaker 2: learning the combinations that work well. We're still making adjustments. 647 00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:30,200 Speaker 2: We learn more about that in games, so we're still 648 00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:33,240 Speaker 2: in that early season process. I'd love to get some 649 00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:35,000 Speaker 2: of it out of the way in exhibition games. 650 00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:36,880 Speaker 4: Tell us. 651 00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:42,760 Speaker 10: Mine is actually multi layered. But first question is is 652 00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:45,080 Speaker 10: there a chance there's a home and home with Dayton. 653 00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:48,680 Speaker 2: It is we returned that game next year. I'm not 654 00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:52,160 Speaker 2: paying that will be a very very difficult return game. 655 00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:55,160 Speaker 2: Everybody knows. I hope. I hope we have to find 656 00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:57,920 Speaker 2: some bearcats that sneak into date in the way that 657 00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:01,720 Speaker 2: some dates were stuck in to fit thirty Yeah, they did. 658 00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:05,240 Speaker 10: The thing that was impressive. There are so many moving 659 00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:07,440 Speaker 10: parts because I looked at the roster and there are 660 00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:09,400 Speaker 10: three people who returned this. 661 00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:11,880 Speaker 1: Year and one didn't play and one did not. 662 00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:15,720 Speaker 10: Play last year. But the freshmen was the thing that 663 00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:20,880 Speaker 10: I picked up on how well they did in those circumstances. 664 00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:24,920 Speaker 10: I mean, they played literally above their freshman this to 665 00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:28,080 Speaker 10: call it that, and that's really kind of impressive to 666 00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:31,560 Speaker 10: watch and our hope is that they stick around for 667 00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:35,160 Speaker 10: a long time. Tyler was amazing. I mean he's one 668 00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:37,000 Speaker 10: of the ones that I think a lot of Bearcats 669 00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:41,160 Speaker 10: have been watching and see, come on out when you're 670 00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:42,400 Speaker 10: when you're healthy. 671 00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:48,440 Speaker 2: That's been the best part. Yeah, are are We actually 672 00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:50,280 Speaker 2: have some old players. We've talked about it a lot. 673 00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:55,760 Speaker 2: Tyler McKinley's a freshman. Mustapha Chom should be a freshman. 674 00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:57,720 Speaker 2: He's a second year player, but he's the age of 675 00:32:57,760 --> 00:33:03,959 Speaker 2: all the freshmen. Keisha Tillery's a freshman. Halvin is a 676 00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:07,000 Speaker 2: second year player. He's still very young. Georgie Rodriguez is 677 00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:10,320 Speaker 2: in his first year in college basketball. Who am I for? Sawing? 678 00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:13,000 Speaker 2: And Shawn of b Ia as a freshman. So we 679 00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:15,320 Speaker 2: do have some really young players. The thing is they're 680 00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:18,120 Speaker 2: really good and they're gonna have freshman moments. But the 681 00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:23,760 Speaker 2: quality of players that are coming into the program is 682 00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:26,640 Speaker 2: really high. Like we just signed a young man, Kadan Allen, 683 00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:29,560 Speaker 2: who's one of the best combo guards in his class. 684 00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:33,440 Speaker 2: I love this. Nobody knew this about him. He's always 685 00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:37,720 Speaker 2: been considered a top thirty forty player. He's he's like 686 00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:41,120 Speaker 2: a year younger than everybody, like he might be better 687 00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:43,800 Speaker 2: and not might. He's better than people think he is 688 00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:46,280 Speaker 2: nationally and they have him as a four star type. 689 00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:49,000 Speaker 2: He's better because he's like a year younger than everybody 690 00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:51,000 Speaker 2: in his class. He should be in the next class. 691 00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:55,240 Speaker 2: We're recruiting really gifted players that are seasoned players like 692 00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:59,680 Speaker 2: Shawna Bayev and Keishan Tillery and Tyler McKinley. They've played 693 00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:02,160 Speaker 2: at the elite levels of high school basketball and they've 694 00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:04,000 Speaker 2: been in lots of big games. And it's not the 695 00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:06,880 Speaker 2: same as college, but different than the normal freshman. 696 00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:09,879 Speaker 1: All Right, we'll take a time out. More questions from 697 00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:12,440 Speaker 1: the audience. When we continue. We are live at the 698 00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:15,759 Speaker 1: original Montgomery In home of the world's greatest ribs for 699 00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:21,520 Speaker 1: the Westmeller radio show and seven hundred WLW. We're back 700 00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:24,400 Speaker 1: at the original Montgomery In home of the world's greatest ribs. 701 00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:27,359 Speaker 1: It's the Westmeller Radio Show here in seven hundred WLW. 702 00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:29,840 Speaker 1: We appreciate the Bearcat fans who are here with us tonight. 703 00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:32,160 Speaker 1: We'll have some stuff to give away at the end 704 00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:33,719 Speaker 1: of the show, but you have to be here in 705 00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:36,799 Speaker 1: person in order to win. Keep that in mind in. 706 00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:37,560 Speaker 2: The weeks to come. 707 00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:39,880 Speaker 1: Our buddy Glenn is here tonight. Glenn, take it away. 708 00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:43,239 Speaker 11: Hey, Wes, I've heard you on the radio. You're very 709 00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:47,600 Speaker 11: excited about this tape. I could tell one of my questions, 710 00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:52,880 Speaker 11: I owe this to Mo. Most says he are lists 711 00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:57,600 Speaker 11: that the ratio of turnovers to number of possessions an 712 00:34:57,600 --> 00:34:58,719 Speaker 11: important stat Right. 713 00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:04,160 Speaker 2: If Most says it, for sure, I. 714 00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:06,360 Speaker 4: Could help it. 715 00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:08,759 Speaker 11: I can help and not notice that you're running the 716 00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:10,080 Speaker 11: North Carolina offense. 717 00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:10,760 Speaker 4: Is that true? 718 00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:13,560 Speaker 2: The elements of the fast break? For sure? 719 00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:14,880 Speaker 4: Right right right. 720 00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:18,640 Speaker 11: My next question is probably before Dan, is the eighty 721 00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:22,279 Speaker 11: six million dollars that Texas Texas playing. Is that for 722 00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:25,120 Speaker 11: all the students in the school from their null money 723 00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:26,960 Speaker 11: or is that just football football players? 724 00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:30,359 Speaker 1: They're not paying eighty six million for football. But they 725 00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:32,440 Speaker 1: are paying a lot. They are paying as much as 726 00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:34,960 Speaker 1: any school in the country. But it's not eighty six million. 727 00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:36,279 Speaker 11: That's what I heard. 728 00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:38,040 Speaker 4: Okay, eighty six million. 729 00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:41,280 Speaker 3: You get the Dallas Cowboys period, that's the whole defense. 730 00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:45,480 Speaker 4: That's a lot of money. You got another question, No, 731 00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:49,760 Speaker 4: I'll take you all right, thanks, Clint Bob. 732 00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:52,600 Speaker 2: So on most of our. 733 00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:54,960 Speaker 12: Teams, we consider it lucky if there's that one go 734 00:35:55,040 --> 00:35:57,400 Speaker 12: to guy that you want to put them have the 735 00:35:57,440 --> 00:35:59,400 Speaker 12: ball at the end of the game. I look at 736 00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:03,160 Speaker 12: this team and I can see the possibility of three 737 00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:05,960 Speaker 12: or four guys who who you can want to have 738 00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:10,040 Speaker 12: the ball, and I think that is so much better 739 00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:13,200 Speaker 12: because it really puts the defense under pressure as the 740 00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:14,160 Speaker 12: clock's winded down. 741 00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:16,879 Speaker 1: That's that one guy's Michael Jordan. But I get the point. 742 00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:22,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you know, as we get into tight games, 743 00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:26,920 Speaker 2: trying to learn and figure out where the ball should go, 744 00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:29,800 Speaker 2: how it should go there, and how to play. I 745 00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:32,040 Speaker 2: think that's something we've worked on in practice situations, but 746 00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:35,840 Speaker 2: it'll be important to define that as we keep moving forward. 747 00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:40,120 Speaker 8: Dave one more for you here, coach. So earlier you 748 00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:43,839 Speaker 8: were talking about the scouting of players. How far back 749 00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:48,000 Speaker 8: do you go? This is the first question too, how 750 00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:51,480 Speaker 8: many how many people do you have that actually do scouting? 751 00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:51,799 Speaker 2: How? 752 00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:54,040 Speaker 8: I mean, what type of a job is that? It 753 00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:55,840 Speaker 8: would seem like it could be immense. 754 00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:59,680 Speaker 2: It's interesting. Are all of our assistant coaches do scout? 755 00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:04,719 Speaker 2: And we divide up the scouting or the games and 756 00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:08,120 Speaker 2: within the coaching staff, so each assistant has a certain 757 00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:12,200 Speaker 2: amount of games. A grad assistant assists with each assistant, 758 00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:16,040 Speaker 2: so there's always at least two. And then you know, 759 00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:19,080 Speaker 2: Tim Buckley and Kelly Peters on my staff are involved 760 00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:23,359 Speaker 2: in every scout, so myself, Tim, Kelly and whoever's the 761 00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:26,799 Speaker 2: presenter and the GA. You know, there's a lot that 762 00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:32,440 Speaker 2: goes into each game. There's also a massive analytical breakdown. 763 00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:35,680 Speaker 2: And how far do you go back? I mean as 764 00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:38,680 Speaker 2: far back as you need to gain the information to 765 00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:41,680 Speaker 2: find an edge. So if it's a freshman this time 766 00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:43,560 Speaker 2: of year and they don't have a ton of tape, 767 00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:45,960 Speaker 2: you're going back to their high school tape and we'll 768 00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:49,440 Speaker 2: literally show Now everything's online so you can if you 769 00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:51,120 Speaker 2: want to work at it, you can find it. So 770 00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:54,520 Speaker 2: like our GA's they've they've been sent on some wild 771 00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:56,680 Speaker 2: goose chases. But if they know what they're doing, they 772 00:37:56,680 --> 00:37:59,440 Speaker 2: can figure it out. But yeah, there's a lot that 773 00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:02,040 Speaker 2: goes into it, a lot more than people would realize. 774 00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:02,960 Speaker 4: Based on your recruiting. 775 00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:06,720 Speaker 3: Like right now, you guys are shooting every fourteen seconds 776 00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:10,319 Speaker 3: of possession. That means you're constantly running, constantly moving. Does 777 00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:13,440 Speaker 3: that put emphasis on the type of athlete that you're 778 00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:16,640 Speaker 3: going after? No longer the three hundred pound guys that 779 00:38:17,239 --> 00:38:19,399 Speaker 3: can carve out space and the paint. Now you want 780 00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:20,600 Speaker 3: to get up and down. They have to be able 781 00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:23,080 Speaker 3: to run and endure the fast pace that you're doing. 782 00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:27,200 Speaker 3: So when you're talking about recruiting, does that factor into it? 783 00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:30,320 Speaker 2: It always has. We've always tried to find guys that 784 00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:32,160 Speaker 2: could play defense, so we want to play They could 785 00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:34,040 Speaker 2: play in the open court. I don't mind a three 786 00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:35,600 Speaker 2: hundred pound guy, but I want to get him here 787 00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:37,080 Speaker 2: and give him to coach ray Feld and get him 788 00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:38,279 Speaker 2: to be two forty, right, you. 789 00:38:38,239 --> 00:38:41,160 Speaker 1: Know, as long as he's not a three hundred pound 790 00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:44,759 Speaker 1: point guard exactly. It's a big guy that you're slimming down. 791 00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:45,360 Speaker 4: That's okay. 792 00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:48,400 Speaker 1: Five to ten to three hundred guys probably not gonna. 793 00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:51,080 Speaker 2: Work five three hundreds probably not gonna work diabolically. I 794 00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:54,080 Speaker 2: mean a six eighty two hundred and sixty pound point 795 00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:56,120 Speaker 2: guard like Lebron James. I take care of me, you know, 796 00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:00,520 Speaker 2: But no, I think you were just looking for guys 797 00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:02,279 Speaker 2: that are physically able to play the way we want 798 00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:06,279 Speaker 2: to play, have the mental makeup that we're looking for. 799 00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:09,080 Speaker 2: And obviously we've learned this in the Big Twelve the 800 00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:12,160 Speaker 2: last two years. There's a certain element of skill you 801 00:39:12,239 --> 00:39:16,560 Speaker 2: have to have. That's probably was the biggest learning curve 802 00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:19,160 Speaker 2: is that you just in this league, you have to 803 00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:22,239 Speaker 2: have skill too. It can't just be, you know, great 804 00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:26,160 Speaker 2: defense and great rebounding. Nobody cares about great defense and 805 00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:28,759 Speaker 2: great rebounding when you don't win. I mean you got 806 00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:31,719 Speaker 2: to have some skills so that there's an element of 807 00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:33,520 Speaker 2: that too, and we've really made an effort to get 808 00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:34,080 Speaker 2: more skilled. 809 00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:38,120 Speaker 1: So our last radio show was last Thursday. The following night, 810 00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:41,279 Speaker 1: you had a game, and so did Iona, and I 811 00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:44,440 Speaker 1: know a lot of Bearcat fans were excited to see C. J. 812 00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:46,759 Speaker 1: Anthony play for Iona for the first time. He had 813 00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:49,799 Speaker 1: twenty four points in that game. Through his first two games, 814 00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:52,839 Speaker 1: he's averaging fifteen and a half points, five assists, two 815 00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:55,040 Speaker 1: and a half rebounds. His team is two and zero. 816 00:39:55,600 --> 00:40:00,239 Speaker 1: It's so fun to follow him having this opportunity being 817 00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:01,640 Speaker 1: a great Bearcat for four years. 818 00:40:02,120 --> 00:40:04,520 Speaker 2: It's like the greatest thing ever. I'm the biggest Iona 819 00:40:04,600 --> 00:40:06,480 Speaker 2: fan the face of the earth. 820 00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:10,000 Speaker 1: Right now and are tied for second, right. 821 00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:14,560 Speaker 2: It is. It's like you guys told me after I 822 00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:17,000 Speaker 2: think was at the Georgia State game. You said I 823 00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:19,279 Speaker 2: got some good news for you and that you guys 824 00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:21,279 Speaker 2: broke it. And then the first thing I did when 825 00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:25,040 Speaker 2: I got back to my locker was FaceTime CJ. But yeah, 826 00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:28,120 Speaker 2: I'm so thrilled because I've watched all the sacrifice and 827 00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:30,320 Speaker 2: the stuff that he's done to put himself in this position, 828 00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:32,879 Speaker 2: and I know how much he's enjoyed it, you know. 829 00:40:33,040 --> 00:40:36,000 Speaker 2: But like I told him, I'm not real impressed unless 830 00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:37,880 Speaker 2: you keep doing it so that type of thing. But 831 00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:39,320 Speaker 2: deep down, I am pretty impressed. 832 00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:41,920 Speaker 3: Averaging fourteen seconds, what do you want that number to 833 00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:43,120 Speaker 3: get down to per possession? 834 00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:46,200 Speaker 2: You know, That's how a lot of people talk about 835 00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:50,160 Speaker 2: pace of play, right, I think, and that number is 836 00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:53,279 Speaker 2: going to go down if you're scoring fast breaks. I'm 837 00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:56,759 Speaker 2: a little less concerned in average pace of play me 838 00:40:56,920 --> 00:41:01,040 Speaker 2: personally than I am, and how many quick baskets we get, 839 00:41:01,120 --> 00:41:04,040 Speaker 2: Meaning I want us to make sure we're scoring quick 840 00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:07,279 Speaker 2: and early in the shot clock consistently. But if we 841 00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:10,000 Speaker 2: don't and we have some longer possessions trying to play 842 00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:12,400 Speaker 2: the right way in the half court, I'm fine too, Terry. 843 00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:17,080 Speaker 2: So that number doesn't matter to me. It's more as 844 00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:20,600 Speaker 2: long as we're having as many I mean, how many 845 00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:22,440 Speaker 2: times can we get in the open floor in space, 846 00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:26,040 Speaker 2: get an easy basket, get fouled, get an offensive rebound, 847 00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:28,280 Speaker 2: get a good three point shot for a three point shooter. 848 00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:30,759 Speaker 2: If we can do that the whole game, the pace 849 00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:33,120 Speaker 2: of play number will be like eight seconds, and that'd 850 00:41:33,160 --> 00:41:34,759 Speaker 2: be the happiest guy in the world. But that's not 851 00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:38,080 Speaker 2: gonna happen every night. We still want those opportunities as 852 00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:38,719 Speaker 2: much as we can. 853 00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:42,000 Speaker 1: So this year's game against Dayton was the third year 854 00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:44,120 Speaker 1: in a row you've played the Flyers. Th'relady on the 855 00:41:44,120 --> 00:41:47,200 Speaker 1: schedule for U D Arena next year, you're obviously playing 856 00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:49,960 Speaker 1: Xavier every year. You got Littleville on the schedule this 857 00:41:50,120 --> 00:41:53,239 Speaker 1: year coming up a week from tomorrow. Is that a 858 00:41:53,360 --> 00:41:55,960 Speaker 1: team that you would like to play on a regular 859 00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:57,240 Speaker 1: basis if they were willing. 860 00:41:57,680 --> 00:42:00,919 Speaker 2: The Louisville's a home and home too. It's a neutralish 861 00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:04,880 Speaker 2: home and home that we play in Heritage Bank and 862 00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:08,600 Speaker 2: then we go return there in Freedom in Freedom Hall. 863 00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:10,480 Speaker 2: So it's it's gonna be. 864 00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:12,400 Speaker 1: Cool because that's not where they play their games. 865 00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:15,759 Speaker 2: No anymore they play. That's not their arena. That's like 866 00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:18,040 Speaker 2: they're it's old type. It's so it's the same idea. 867 00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:24,239 Speaker 2: They're two neutralish games. I guess you should say, so, yeah, 868 00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:27,480 Speaker 2: it's it's it's listen. I'm not opposed to local games. 869 00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:30,680 Speaker 2: Some people said, don't ever play local, and I think 870 00:42:30,719 --> 00:42:33,280 Speaker 2: that's a bunch of crap. Let's play good teams, let's 871 00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:37,319 Speaker 2: have great environments, let's get fan interest. You know, That's 872 00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:40,759 Speaker 2: never deterred me. I've always wanted to compete, but it's 873 00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:43,200 Speaker 2: not been like it's some what's local local local. We're 874 00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:45,359 Speaker 2: just looking for for good games that are good for 875 00:42:45,719 --> 00:42:48,080 Speaker 2: our non conference schedule, and it's happened to work out 876 00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:49,240 Speaker 2: with some of these local teams. 877 00:42:50,160 --> 00:42:52,560 Speaker 1: That's going to be a really good one. Louisville obviously 878 00:42:52,640 --> 00:42:54,440 Speaker 1: has an excellent team this year. They're off to a 879 00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:57,920 Speaker 1: good start and uh, let's hope that bear Cat fans 880 00:42:58,239 --> 00:43:00,759 Speaker 1: pack Heritage Bank Arena Friday night. 881 00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:04,560 Speaker 2: Hey, you know they're you know, some people picked them 882 00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:06,960 Speaker 2: to be a Final four team and Nations Championship contender, 883 00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:09,799 Speaker 2: and they've done a great job recruiting. My gosh, you 884 00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:12,239 Speaker 2: know the team they put together. So that should be 885 00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:14,880 Speaker 2: a I think they were up twenty against Kentucky last week, 886 00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:17,319 Speaker 2: who's also got a great team this year, and so 887 00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:19,160 Speaker 2: that should be a great test for us. We have 888 00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:21,400 Speaker 2: a game before that. We can't look too far ahead, 889 00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:23,880 Speaker 2: but that should be a great test for us against 890 00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:25,080 Speaker 2: a team that a lot of people have picked to 891 00:43:25,080 --> 00:43:26,000 Speaker 2: win the National Championship. 892 00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:28,759 Speaker 1: Mount Saint Mary's is that next game coming up on 893 00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:32,480 Speaker 1: Sunday at six. Anything that you can point out about them, 894 00:43:32,480 --> 00:43:34,640 Speaker 1: I have not done any homework on Mount Saint Mary's. 895 00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:38,440 Speaker 2: You know they're sound. They played West Virginia pretty close 896 00:43:38,560 --> 00:43:42,280 Speaker 2: opening night. Who's in our league? I watched that game today. 897 00:43:43,080 --> 00:43:48,719 Speaker 2: They're very sound. They have they play a little old 898 00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:51,840 Speaker 2: school in the sense that they'll play two true post players. 899 00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:55,200 Speaker 2: They have a big center that's really skilled, really good 900 00:43:55,200 --> 00:43:58,640 Speaker 2: in the pocket, good decision maker, they're sound, they run 901 00:43:58,719 --> 00:44:01,480 Speaker 2: good offense, they're in really good defensively, they're a team 902 00:44:01,480 --> 00:44:03,800 Speaker 2: that doesn't beat themselves. The other thing, they played in 903 00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:05,520 Speaker 2: the Sula Tournament last year, won a game in the 904 00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:09,160 Speaker 2: NCAA tournament, and they've returned a couple of players off 905 00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:12,160 Speaker 2: of that team. So it'll like all these games, we 906 00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:14,239 Speaker 2: have tremendous respect. It won't be an easy game, and 907 00:44:14,560 --> 00:44:16,640 Speaker 2: we can't look ahead to Louisville. We got to focus 908 00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:18,000 Speaker 2: in on what's in front of us, all right. 909 00:44:18,040 --> 00:44:20,120 Speaker 1: Again, that game is coming up on Sunday at six 910 00:44:20,239 --> 00:44:22,960 Speaker 1: radio coverage. We'll start at five point thirty. That's going 911 00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:25,080 Speaker 1: to do it for our show tonight. Again, our thanks 912 00:44:25,080 --> 00:44:27,080 Speaker 1: to the folks who are here at the original Montgomery 913 00:44:27,120 --> 00:44:29,920 Speaker 1: and we've got some stuff to give away momentarily. If 914 00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:32,000 Speaker 1: you've been listening on the radio, thanks for tuning in 915 00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:35,040 Speaker 1: to the West Miller Radio Show on seven hundred WLW