1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:04,080 Speaker 1: Okay. Joining us now for a Newsmaker interview on the 2 00:00:04,160 --> 00:00:10,760 Speaker 1: Cooner Report is State Auditor Diana Dizoglio. Diana, thank you 3 00:00:10,880 --> 00:00:14,560 Speaker 1: so much for coming on the Kooner Report. How are you. 4 00:00:15,640 --> 00:00:19,440 Speaker 2: Good morning, Jeff. I am digging out, probably like everybody else, 5 00:00:19,800 --> 00:00:22,200 Speaker 2: but you know, we're finally we're finally got our heads 6 00:00:22,200 --> 00:00:25,320 Speaker 2: above the snow. It was nice to get to catch 7 00:00:25,400 --> 00:00:28,960 Speaker 2: up with neighbors yesterday last night as we all dug 8 00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:32,479 Speaker 2: out and helped each other shovel and just reconnect with people. 9 00:00:32,640 --> 00:00:35,440 Speaker 2: So hope everybody safe and good to be on. Thank 10 00:00:35,479 --> 00:00:36,360 Speaker 2: you so much for having me. 11 00:00:36,520 --> 00:00:40,159 Speaker 1: Well, it's truly my pleasure, Diana, look right out of 12 00:00:40,240 --> 00:00:43,200 Speaker 1: the gate. Let me ask you the big question. Obviously, 13 00:00:43,360 --> 00:00:46,240 Speaker 1: you have a mandate from the people of Massachusetts over 14 00:00:46,280 --> 00:00:49,720 Speaker 1: seventy two percent voted in the election in twenty twenty 15 00:00:49,800 --> 00:00:54,200 Speaker 1: four on the ballot to conduct a thorough, complete state 16 00:00:54,280 --> 00:00:58,160 Speaker 1: audit of the spending up on Beacon Hill. You are 17 00:00:58,200 --> 00:01:04,200 Speaker 1: being blocked, stonewalled by House Speaker Ron Mariano, Senate President 18 00:01:04,280 --> 00:01:08,959 Speaker 1: Karen Spilka, and essentially Beacon Hill Democrats. You are now 19 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:11,959 Speaker 1: taking them to court. You are suing them so that 20 00:01:12,040 --> 00:01:15,520 Speaker 1: they will effectively open up the books and allow you 21 00:01:15,600 --> 00:01:18,520 Speaker 1: to conduct a state audit. So let me ask you 22 00:01:18,560 --> 00:01:24,759 Speaker 1: the big question. Why why are democrats on Beacon Hill 23 00:01:25,480 --> 00:01:29,920 Speaker 1: so afraid for you to conduct a state audit? What 24 00:01:30,040 --> 00:01:31,000 Speaker 1: are they afraid of. 25 00:01:32,520 --> 00:01:37,080 Speaker 2: Losing power for themselves? To be honest, Look, I've said 26 00:01:37,080 --> 00:01:40,600 Speaker 2: this many times. You know, the people who happen to 27 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:43,840 Speaker 2: have wielded a lot of power on Beacon Hill, they 28 00:01:43,880 --> 00:01:47,840 Speaker 2: do not represent the vast majority of people, you know, 29 00:01:47,920 --> 00:01:50,440 Speaker 2: within the Democratic Party, the rank and file members of 30 00:01:50,480 --> 00:01:53,520 Speaker 2: the Democratic Party at least, And this is a non 31 00:01:53,560 --> 00:01:56,920 Speaker 2: part is an issue. This is an issue that actually 32 00:01:57,440 --> 00:02:00,480 Speaker 2: really doesn't have anything to do with Democrat or publican. 33 00:02:00,680 --> 00:02:03,560 Speaker 2: It has to do with people who have power, too 34 00:02:03,640 --> 00:02:08,800 Speaker 2: much of it, and that absolute power has been corrupting absolutely. 35 00:02:09,360 --> 00:02:12,360 Speaker 2: And what we have is a system where a few 36 00:02:12,360 --> 00:02:15,320 Speaker 2: people have access to how those tax dollars are being spent, 37 00:02:15,919 --> 00:02:19,240 Speaker 2: and that allows them to be more informed than we are. 38 00:02:19,320 --> 00:02:22,440 Speaker 2: It allows them to have access to knowledge about different 39 00:02:22,440 --> 00:02:26,200 Speaker 2: things that we don't have knowledge about. And if everybody 40 00:02:26,200 --> 00:02:28,000 Speaker 2: remembers when we were kids, at least for me, and 41 00:02:28,040 --> 00:02:30,880 Speaker 2: I'm maybe dating myself right now, but we used to 42 00:02:30,919 --> 00:02:34,720 Speaker 2: have chalkboards in the classrooms. Right, So anyone who remembers 43 00:02:34,720 --> 00:02:37,200 Speaker 2: when chalkboards are in the classrooms, right above the chalkboard, 44 00:02:37,200 --> 00:02:40,480 Speaker 2: they would have a saying that said knowledge is power. 45 00:02:40,639 --> 00:02:44,520 Speaker 2: Remember that knowledge is power. Yeah, and that's saying you know, 46 00:02:44,600 --> 00:02:48,520 Speaker 2: I just go back to that knowledge is power. It 47 00:02:48,639 --> 00:02:52,960 Speaker 2: helps us to be our own best advocate, whether we are, 48 00:02:53,440 --> 00:02:56,360 Speaker 2: you know, more on the conservative leaning side or on 49 00:02:56,400 --> 00:02:59,720 Speaker 2: the liberal side, or somewhere in between. You know, knowledge 50 00:02:59,720 --> 00:03:02,560 Speaker 2: is power, and it helps us to advocate for what 51 00:03:02,600 --> 00:03:04,880 Speaker 2: we believe is the right thing. And if we don't 52 00:03:04,880 --> 00:03:07,280 Speaker 2: have access to what's happening up at the state House, 53 00:03:07,320 --> 00:03:09,520 Speaker 2: if we don't have access to the same information they 54 00:03:09,560 --> 00:03:13,119 Speaker 2: have access to, that gives them the upper hand when 55 00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:16,120 Speaker 2: these decisions are being made. They can make those decisions 56 00:03:16,120 --> 00:03:19,360 Speaker 2: behind closed doors. We find out about those decisions after 57 00:03:19,400 --> 00:03:22,040 Speaker 2: the fact, and we're not actually able to have the 58 00:03:22,040 --> 00:03:25,320 Speaker 2: tools in our tool belt to be able to participate 59 00:03:25,760 --> 00:03:27,799 Speaker 2: in the types of conversations we need to be able 60 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:30,640 Speaker 2: to participate and to make sure that we're standing up 61 00:03:30,639 --> 00:03:33,280 Speaker 2: for the issues important for us. So really, you know, 62 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:36,720 Speaker 2: they're trying to keep the power for themselves and they 63 00:03:36,760 --> 00:03:39,720 Speaker 2: believe that, you know, the politicians are the only ones 64 00:03:39,720 --> 00:03:42,600 Speaker 2: that should have access to this information. And I'm here 65 00:03:42,640 --> 00:03:45,920 Speaker 2: to say essentially, look, knowledge is power, and power belongs 66 00:03:45,960 --> 00:03:47,560 Speaker 2: to the people, not to the politicians. 67 00:03:48,440 --> 00:03:52,240 Speaker 1: Are you, well, let me phrase it like this. There 68 00:03:52,280 --> 00:03:56,880 Speaker 1: have been several high profile arrests of food stamp fraud, 69 00:03:58,040 --> 00:04:03,440 Speaker 1: and there's talk now in the met that Massachusetts really 70 00:04:03,440 --> 00:04:06,920 Speaker 1: could be the new Minnesota, that the welfare fraud that 71 00:04:06,960 --> 00:04:11,640 Speaker 1: we've seen in Minnesota is most likely being replicated here 72 00:04:12,120 --> 00:04:17,000 Speaker 1: in Massachusetts. Do you think a major reason why they're 73 00:04:17,080 --> 00:04:21,360 Speaker 1: stonewalling and obstructing you is that they're afraid that if 74 00:04:21,360 --> 00:04:24,520 Speaker 1: you do a proper audit, you are going to uncover 75 00:04:25,200 --> 00:04:31,880 Speaker 1: food stamp fraud, snap fraud, welfare fraud of billions and 76 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:36,120 Speaker 1: billions of dollars that we have seen, for example, in Minnesota. 77 00:04:36,520 --> 00:04:42,400 Speaker 1: In other words, are they trying to hide massive corruption, waste, fraud, 78 00:04:42,480 --> 00:04:47,040 Speaker 1: and abuse of taxpayer money? Is that your suspicion right now? 79 00:04:48,120 --> 00:04:52,799 Speaker 2: My suspicion is actually that they are trying to hide 80 00:04:52,960 --> 00:04:59,280 Speaker 2: information pertaining to their use of state contracts, for example, 81 00:04:59,360 --> 00:05:02,200 Speaker 2: that go out in the millions and millions of our 82 00:05:02,320 --> 00:05:06,880 Speaker 2: taxpayer dollars. You know, when we audit the administration, and 83 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:11,080 Speaker 2: we audit different agencies that actually follow the law. For example, 84 00:05:11,680 --> 00:05:15,200 Speaker 2: we look at their contracting process and we look at 85 00:05:15,200 --> 00:05:19,280 Speaker 2: whether or not they actually followed a bidding process or 86 00:05:19,320 --> 00:05:22,599 Speaker 2: if they gave out a no bid contract to you know, 87 00:05:22,640 --> 00:05:25,760 Speaker 2: a political friend or supporter or whatever. And we look 88 00:05:25,880 --> 00:05:29,479 Speaker 2: at the protocols that were followed or that were not 89 00:05:29,720 --> 00:05:33,240 Speaker 2: followed to call out if the law was broken or 90 00:05:33,279 --> 00:05:36,640 Speaker 2: if regulations were broken. And the reason why we have 91 00:05:36,720 --> 00:05:38,920 Speaker 2: a bidding process, the reason why we have procurement laws, 92 00:05:39,480 --> 00:05:41,840 Speaker 2: is because we need to make sure that people aren't 93 00:05:41,839 --> 00:05:44,360 Speaker 2: able to just hand out millions and millions of dollars 94 00:05:44,760 --> 00:05:49,159 Speaker 2: to their friends, where you know, there can be allegations 95 00:05:49,200 --> 00:05:53,280 Speaker 2: of potential kickbacks happening and all sorts of things that 96 00:05:53,320 --> 00:05:56,920 Speaker 2: are unethical, immoral, and unlawful could be happening. Right, So 97 00:05:57,000 --> 00:06:00,000 Speaker 2: we look at the bidding process, we look at procurement life, 98 00:06:00,240 --> 00:06:03,800 Speaker 2: we look at contracts that go out using our tax dollars. 99 00:06:04,360 --> 00:06:07,839 Speaker 2: And the legislature right now is actually conducting a post 100 00:06:07,839 --> 00:06:12,919 Speaker 2: audit and oversight hearing of the Department of Transportations state contracts. 101 00:06:13,279 --> 00:06:16,200 Speaker 2: And I'm sure that folks you know listening probably remember 102 00:06:16,680 --> 00:06:20,840 Speaker 2: there were some allegations recently about some unethical and potentially 103 00:06:20,920 --> 00:06:25,400 Speaker 2: unlawful behavior. When it came to a particular state contract 104 00:06:25,480 --> 00:06:28,880 Speaker 2: over the Department of Transportation, the legislature is actually conducting 105 00:06:28,920 --> 00:06:32,960 Speaker 2: oversight hearings of that issue. I would just say they're 106 00:06:33,120 --> 00:06:37,440 Speaker 2: conducting audit and oversight hearings of the executive branch, right, 107 00:06:37,600 --> 00:06:40,159 Speaker 2: So no separation of powers there and audit for the 108 00:06:40,279 --> 00:06:42,799 Speaker 2: but not for me, is what they're saying. But they're 109 00:06:42,839 --> 00:06:46,359 Speaker 2: able to actually look at those contracts, and so am I. 110 00:06:46,839 --> 00:06:51,000 Speaker 2: When it comes to executive branch agencies. What the legislature 111 00:06:51,200 --> 00:06:54,800 Speaker 2: is saying in denying us access to their books is 112 00:06:54,839 --> 00:06:58,040 Speaker 2: they're saying that we can look at everybody else's state contracts, 113 00:06:58,080 --> 00:07:01,120 Speaker 2: but you can't look at our state contracts. And they 114 00:07:01,200 --> 00:07:05,039 Speaker 2: are able to hand out taxpayer dollars to folks in 115 00:07:05,160 --> 00:07:08,800 Speaker 2: contracts in arrangements that they don't want us to be 116 00:07:08,920 --> 00:07:11,400 Speaker 2: able to see, you know, how they entered into them. 117 00:07:11,720 --> 00:07:14,000 Speaker 2: So there could be some funny business there, there could 118 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:17,480 Speaker 2: be a lawful behavior there. There could be you know, 119 00:07:17,680 --> 00:07:21,280 Speaker 2: violation of state regulation. We just don't know, And that's 120 00:07:21,280 --> 00:07:24,360 Speaker 2: what I believe they're most concerned about because that's what 121 00:07:24,400 --> 00:07:26,360 Speaker 2: I'm trying to audit. I'm trying to get access to 122 00:07:26,400 --> 00:07:28,520 Speaker 2: their receipt interesting and to their state contract. 123 00:07:28,680 --> 00:07:31,800 Speaker 1: Diana. This, by the way, we're talking to Diana Disoglios, 124 00:07:31,960 --> 00:07:35,360 Speaker 1: Massachusetts State Auditor. I want to give you a chance 125 00:07:35,400 --> 00:07:39,480 Speaker 1: to address their central argument. Their central argument is that 126 00:07:39,640 --> 00:07:42,720 Speaker 1: the valid initiative and the victory of seventy two to 127 00:07:42,760 --> 00:07:47,680 Speaker 1: seventy three percent of the voters was essentially unconstitutional. That 128 00:07:47,840 --> 00:07:51,720 Speaker 1: you do not have the right to conduct the state audit. 129 00:07:52,120 --> 00:07:55,880 Speaker 1: You're part of the executive branch. They're in the legislative branch. 130 00:07:56,280 --> 00:07:59,320 Speaker 1: That there's something called the separation of powers according to them, 131 00:07:59,720 --> 00:08:04,520 Speaker 1: and so that your attempt to audit them is unconstitutional. 132 00:08:04,760 --> 00:08:05,480 Speaker 1: What say you? 133 00:08:06,880 --> 00:08:10,440 Speaker 2: How can they audit and provide oversight to the executive branch? 134 00:08:10,520 --> 00:08:12,360 Speaker 2: Like I just said, if there is a separation of 135 00:08:12,400 --> 00:08:15,200 Speaker 2: powers that prevents us from the system of checks and 136 00:08:15,240 --> 00:08:19,360 Speaker 2: balances that is also supposed to be occurring. You know, 137 00:08:19,400 --> 00:08:22,640 Speaker 2: when people talk about separation of powers up on Beacon Hill, 138 00:08:23,160 --> 00:08:26,400 Speaker 2: they don't really I think, understand what they're talking about. 139 00:08:26,640 --> 00:08:30,000 Speaker 2: Separation of powers simply means you can't exercise the power 140 00:08:30,200 --> 00:08:33,680 Speaker 2: of another branch of government, meaning that I can't go 141 00:08:33,800 --> 00:08:36,200 Speaker 2: and sit in the seat of a legislator and take 142 00:08:36,240 --> 00:08:40,040 Speaker 2: a vote on their behalf. For example, right, I can't 143 00:08:40,080 --> 00:08:42,920 Speaker 2: get on the House floor and the Senate floor like 144 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:45,160 Speaker 2: I used to for ten years when I served as 145 00:08:45,160 --> 00:08:47,880 Speaker 2: a state representative, when I served as a senator, and 146 00:08:47,960 --> 00:08:50,520 Speaker 2: I can't debate an issue on the House and Senate floor, 147 00:08:50,960 --> 00:08:54,720 Speaker 2: and I can't exercise their powers because that's the power 148 00:08:54,760 --> 00:08:59,040 Speaker 2: of the legislature, voting on the budget, voting on passing 149 00:08:59,120 --> 00:09:02,360 Speaker 2: bills into law. We're not trying to exercise their power. 150 00:09:02,640 --> 00:09:05,440 Speaker 2: We are simply trying to take a look at the books, 151 00:09:05,480 --> 00:09:08,280 Speaker 2: take a look at things like these state contracts. Right now, 152 00:09:08,360 --> 00:09:10,480 Speaker 2: all we've asked for is to be able to examine 153 00:09:10,480 --> 00:09:13,920 Speaker 2: their financial receipts and financial receipts and their contracts. And 154 00:09:13,960 --> 00:09:17,040 Speaker 2: what they're alleging is that that's somehow an inherent power 155 00:09:17,120 --> 00:09:21,160 Speaker 2: of the legislature. It's complete, Belney. You know, we just 156 00:09:21,240 --> 00:09:23,680 Speaker 2: are able to write reports. And Jeff I would say this. 157 00:09:24,320 --> 00:09:25,920 Speaker 2: You know a lot of folks ask me, well, you 158 00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:28,000 Speaker 2: know you could exercise her favor. 159 00:09:28,400 --> 00:09:30,440 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Diane, I don't mean to cut you off. Mike, 160 00:09:30,480 --> 00:09:32,680 Speaker 1: can you please give me one more minute. I don't 161 00:09:32,679 --> 00:09:34,760 Speaker 1: want to rush her. I want her to finish. Please okay, 162 00:09:34,760 --> 00:09:36,280 Speaker 1: go ahead, Diana, Please go ahead. 163 00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:39,760 Speaker 2: Well, they're saying, essentially, well, you know, can't be auditor 164 00:09:39,800 --> 00:09:42,559 Speaker 2: if she audits them, exercise some sort of power over them. 165 00:09:42,600 --> 00:09:45,720 Speaker 2: The answer is absolutely not. The only thing I am 166 00:09:45,760 --> 00:09:49,120 Speaker 2: able to do is read and review the documents and 167 00:09:49,160 --> 00:09:53,480 Speaker 2: then write a report much like a journalist, right and 168 00:09:53,640 --> 00:09:56,080 Speaker 2: put that information out there to the general public so 169 00:09:56,120 --> 00:09:59,480 Speaker 2: that you have access to what is happening. It simply 170 00:09:59,520 --> 00:10:03,120 Speaker 2: gives that information that they're withholding from everybody to the 171 00:10:03,200 --> 00:10:06,120 Speaker 2: people of this state so that you can be informed 172 00:10:06,280 --> 00:10:08,760 Speaker 2: and you can make decisions based on that information that's 173 00:10:08,760 --> 00:10:12,080 Speaker 2: at your fingertips. So that's that, Jeff, Thank you, Diana. 174 00:10:12,440 --> 00:10:17,520 Speaker 1: Thirty seconds, you've got a lawsuit. You're suing Mariano Spilka, 175 00:10:18,160 --> 00:10:20,960 Speaker 1: the House Speaker of the state Senate. Andrea Campbell, the 176 00:10:21,000 --> 00:10:25,560 Speaker 1: attorney general, is defending them against you. What do you 177 00:10:25,559 --> 00:10:27,559 Speaker 1: think is going to happen in this suit? Very quick? 178 00:10:28,520 --> 00:10:31,079 Speaker 2: Well, my confidence in the courts is not really at 179 00:10:31,080 --> 00:10:34,199 Speaker 2: the highest right now, so we'll see what happens. I'm 180 00:10:34,240 --> 00:10:36,360 Speaker 2: hoping for the best, but you never know. So we're 181 00:10:36,400 --> 00:10:38,960 Speaker 2: going to be fighting that in court and trying to 182 00:10:38,960 --> 00:10:40,600 Speaker 2: get our day in court. What I would say is 183 00:10:40,760 --> 00:10:42,920 Speaker 2: I don't want to miss this opportunity to ask people 184 00:10:42,960 --> 00:10:45,960 Speaker 2: to please vote for an Act to increase access to 185 00:10:46,000 --> 00:10:48,559 Speaker 2: public records. It's going to be on your ballot in November. 186 00:10:48,880 --> 00:10:51,079 Speaker 2: If we've passed that in November, that will make all 187 00:10:51,080 --> 00:10:53,000 Speaker 2: the records that I've been trying to get access to 188 00:10:53,160 --> 00:10:56,480 Speaker 2: and been being denied available directly to you, the people 189 00:10:56,520 --> 00:11:00,160 Speaker 2: of Massachusetts, so that you can have direct access. We 190 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:02,839 Speaker 2: have to pass that in November to make sure that 191 00:11:02,840 --> 00:11:04,800 Speaker 2: that becomes law, and then hey, I might be fighting 192 00:11:04,800 --> 00:11:07,560 Speaker 2: them on that as well next year, but you know, 193 00:11:07,679 --> 00:11:09,800 Speaker 2: at least we will have another law on the books 194 00:11:09,800 --> 00:11:12,720 Speaker 2: that tells them to release the documents, release the receipts 195 00:11:13,240 --> 00:11:15,199 Speaker 2: in answer to the taxpayers of Massachusetts. 196 00:11:15,240 --> 00:11:20,160 Speaker 1: Amen. Amen, Diana, I'm behind you one thousand percent. We 197 00:11:20,280 --> 00:11:24,640 Speaker 1: have been talking with State Auditor Diana Disoglio, fighting the 198 00:11:24,679 --> 00:11:29,640 Speaker 1: good fight. Okay, let's go to John in Peabody. Thanks 199 00:11:29,679 --> 00:11:32,000 Speaker 1: for holding John, and welcome. 200 00:11:33,720 --> 00:11:36,640 Speaker 3: The greats and oh powerful Doudah. 201 00:11:36,960 --> 00:11:38,000 Speaker 4: How you doing, Captain? 202 00:11:38,520 --> 00:11:40,400 Speaker 1: Doing very good? How are you? John? 203 00:11:41,840 --> 00:11:46,600 Speaker 3: Okay, I gotta say this out right right now. I 204 00:11:46,640 --> 00:11:49,040 Speaker 3: got to hold this against you for the first time. 205 00:11:49,080 --> 00:11:53,000 Speaker 3: Of calling. I'm very disappointed not only with the state 206 00:11:53,040 --> 00:11:56,600 Speaker 3: from very manything, but I'm very disappointed with Trump himself. 207 00:11:58,000 --> 00:11:58,120 Speaker 1: Uh. 208 00:11:58,520 --> 00:12:03,560 Speaker 3: Prime example, my wife did her taxes last night. I 209 00:12:03,679 --> 00:12:06,200 Speaker 3: haven't done them yet, but she did them, paying full 210 00:12:06,240 --> 00:12:10,000 Speaker 3: extent of what she has to pay throughout the year, 211 00:12:10,440 --> 00:12:13,520 Speaker 3: all of her benefits that she had to sacrifice, and 212 00:12:13,559 --> 00:12:17,760 Speaker 3: she owes money. Now, you tell me what happened there. Now, 213 00:12:17,760 --> 00:12:20,760 Speaker 3: I'm listening to this state audit that's going on, and 214 00:12:20,800 --> 00:12:23,720 Speaker 3: I've been questioning with my wife for the longest time 215 00:12:24,679 --> 00:12:27,320 Speaker 3: as to what is going on with all the billions 216 00:12:27,320 --> 00:12:30,439 Speaker 3: of garbage dollars that are being spent. And I heard 217 00:12:30,720 --> 00:12:35,360 Speaker 3: through the grapevind themselves about bogus contracts. And I know 218 00:12:35,440 --> 00:12:41,040 Speaker 3: people who basically had, you know, whistle blowed without keeping 219 00:12:41,080 --> 00:12:44,560 Speaker 3: their mouth shut about bogus contracts that have been going 220 00:12:44,559 --> 00:12:47,319 Speaker 3: throughout this state. And I'm saying this, is saying this 221 00:12:47,480 --> 00:12:50,040 Speaker 3: right in front of a guy who basically pays your salary. 222 00:12:50,520 --> 00:12:53,640 Speaker 3: He says, in you're saying this out loud, just how 223 00:12:53,679 --> 00:12:56,840 Speaker 3: bad this state has been blowing money in handing it 224 00:12:56,840 --> 00:13:00,439 Speaker 3: all to people who basically live high on a hog 225 00:13:00,960 --> 00:13:06,359 Speaker 3: squat and apartments and basically just every taxpayer who's been struggling, 226 00:13:07,160 --> 00:13:12,120 Speaker 3: especially the blue collar, had been feeling this pinch. And 227 00:13:13,480 --> 00:13:17,320 Speaker 3: the first time around with Trump, I was making money. 228 00:13:18,040 --> 00:13:21,160 Speaker 3: I was paying half the cost. Right now, I'm not 229 00:13:21,280 --> 00:13:24,640 Speaker 3: seeing that difference, not one bit, not in my energy costs, 230 00:13:25,400 --> 00:13:30,079 Speaker 3: not in my taxes. I'm not seeing it in grocery bills. 231 00:13:30,480 --> 00:13:34,000 Speaker 3: I'm not seeing it anywhere. I'm seeing it maybe leveling off, 232 00:13:34,640 --> 00:13:38,040 Speaker 3: but nothing's improved. I believe Trump has set aside his 233 00:13:38,120 --> 00:13:42,040 Speaker 3: agenda that he promised for the blue cloths in this country. 234 00:13:42,080 --> 00:13:44,400 Speaker 3: This time around, I think he's been a little too hard, 235 00:13:44,480 --> 00:13:48,560 Speaker 3: focused on trying to shake hands with all the heavy hitters, 236 00:13:48,920 --> 00:13:53,160 Speaker 3: and forgetting about our country's best needs, especially the blue collar. 237 00:13:53,679 --> 00:13:56,000 Speaker 3: You know, because I stand behind blue collar. I'm just 238 00:13:56,480 --> 00:14:01,080 Speaker 3: a guy who just hopefully relies on seeing some sort 239 00:14:01,120 --> 00:14:06,079 Speaker 3: of relief in my pocket, as well as you know, 240 00:14:07,240 --> 00:14:09,760 Speaker 3: waking up not hoping that I have to live check 241 00:14:09,800 --> 00:14:13,880 Speaker 3: to check. And unfortunately I don't particularly have time enough 242 00:14:14,679 --> 00:14:18,880 Speaker 3: to express my deep disconcerns about how bad things have 243 00:14:18,960 --> 00:14:21,520 Speaker 3: been gotten. But I think this time around, I'm a 244 00:14:21,560 --> 00:14:24,720 Speaker 3: little disappointed in federal and state and I'd like to 245 00:14:24,760 --> 00:14:25,520 Speaker 3: hear your opinion. 246 00:14:25,760 --> 00:14:29,320 Speaker 1: Well, John, I'm a little surprised. You're sure when your 247 00:14:29,440 --> 00:14:33,920 Speaker 1: wife did her taxes it wasn't just Massachusetts state income tacts. 248 00:14:33,920 --> 00:14:35,240 Speaker 1: She was doing federal as well. 249 00:14:35,280 --> 00:14:37,840 Speaker 3: Are you sure she did them all? 250 00:14:37,920 --> 00:14:38,200 Speaker 4: Jeff? 251 00:14:38,520 --> 00:14:39,160 Speaker 1: She did them all. 252 00:14:39,360 --> 00:14:43,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, she does them every year. And she says, well, 253 00:14:43,560 --> 00:14:46,280 Speaker 3: after what I just you know, turning off her computer, 254 00:14:46,400 --> 00:14:48,440 Speaker 3: I says, well, I thought I was getting a little 255 00:14:48,480 --> 00:14:52,720 Speaker 3: money back, but I had to complete one more thing 256 00:14:53,000 --> 00:14:58,080 Speaker 3: and it was something to do federally. And like I says, 257 00:14:58,160 --> 00:15:00,920 Speaker 3: after claiming zero, giving all of the taxes, she had 258 00:15:00,960 --> 00:15:05,920 Speaker 3: to give out to you know, pay her fair share 259 00:15:05,960 --> 00:15:10,120 Speaker 3: with federal estate. She owed money. And I don't understand that. 260 00:15:11,560 --> 00:15:15,760 Speaker 3: I really don't, you know, especially paying benefits for her 261 00:15:15,800 --> 00:15:18,240 Speaker 3: own a medical and everything else, and you know, trying 262 00:15:18,240 --> 00:15:19,320 Speaker 3: to keep her car on the road. 263 00:15:19,720 --> 00:15:22,400 Speaker 1: Look, I can just I mean, look to me, my 264 00:15:22,560 --> 00:15:25,360 Speaker 1: understanding was people are going to be getting a big 265 00:15:25,400 --> 00:15:31,680 Speaker 1: refund check after they file their taxes. So I mean, 266 00:15:32,720 --> 00:15:35,800 Speaker 1: I'm not doubting you. I believe you. I'm just saying that, 267 00:15:35,920 --> 00:15:39,440 Speaker 1: you know, that's that wasn't my understanding. Now, look, I 268 00:15:39,440 --> 00:15:43,400 Speaker 1: can just tell you this with one thousand certainty. Diana 269 00:15:43,440 --> 00:15:48,560 Speaker 1: Desogvio is completely correct. They're covering up these no bid contracts, 270 00:15:49,080 --> 00:15:54,040 Speaker 1: they're covering up kickbacks, they're covering up massive corruption. She's 271 00:15:54,080 --> 00:15:58,640 Speaker 1: saying millions. I'm telling you it's billions of dollars. They 272 00:15:58,680 --> 00:16:01,680 Speaker 1: have brought in so many illegals and they're spending so 273 00:16:01,800 --> 00:16:06,520 Speaker 1: much money on them that I mean, there's billions of 274 00:16:06,560 --> 00:16:10,600 Speaker 1: dollars now unaccounted for. And that's your money and that's 275 00:16:10,640 --> 00:16:16,840 Speaker 1: my money. They've been stealing our money. And that's why 276 00:16:16,880 --> 00:16:19,520 Speaker 1: they don't want to comply with the state audit. It's 277 00:16:19,520 --> 00:16:24,320 Speaker 1: so obvious, and we the taxpayers have to say enough 278 00:16:24,360 --> 00:16:28,520 Speaker 1: is enough. I mean, we have to break open the books, period, 279 00:16:29,680 --> 00:16:33,320 Speaker 1: and people have to go to jail. And that's why 280 00:16:33,400 --> 00:16:36,640 Speaker 1: they're fighting her tooth and nail. The Attorney General, who 281 00:16:36,640 --> 00:16:40,960 Speaker 1: should be fighting this case for us, is fighting the 282 00:16:41,040 --> 00:16:45,240 Speaker 1: case on behalf of the corrupt Democrats on Beacon Hill. 283 00:16:47,080 --> 00:16:51,160 Speaker 1: It's it's really it's it's it's incredible. Six one seven 284 00:16:51,240 --> 00:16:56,000 Speaker 1: two six, six, sixty eight sixty eight is the number. Okay. 285 00:16:56,600 --> 00:17:01,680 Speaker 1: In response to John and Peabody, there's a lot of 286 00:17:01,720 --> 00:17:06,119 Speaker 1: you that are siding with John. Now maybe it's because 287 00:17:06,160 --> 00:17:09,359 Speaker 1: I have children. I don't know. I want to read 288 00:17:09,359 --> 00:17:13,080 Speaker 1: this from Mary Anne because she's saying, listen, I'm listening 289 00:17:13,119 --> 00:17:17,080 Speaker 1: to John and he's making sense to me. So here's 290 00:17:17,119 --> 00:17:22,359 Speaker 1: what Mary Anne and Florida wrote to me, Jeff on messenger, Jeff, 291 00:17:22,600 --> 00:17:25,680 Speaker 1: you need to start taking a poll, and you need 292 00:17:25,720 --> 00:17:29,240 Speaker 1: to have it go on for days and days. These big, 293 00:17:29,560 --> 00:17:36,359 Speaker 1: these big refunds are geared toward people with children, not 294 00:17:36,600 --> 00:17:40,280 Speaker 1: any of us that are still working and collecting Social Security, 295 00:17:40,960 --> 00:17:45,240 Speaker 1: not people that are married with no children or other scenarios. 296 00:17:46,240 --> 00:17:51,320 Speaker 1: These big refunds are geared toward people that have children, 297 00:17:51,960 --> 00:17:56,800 Speaker 1: mark my words. The rest of us are going to suffer. Interesting. 298 00:17:57,440 --> 00:18:00,399 Speaker 1: And then she goes on to say, I have to 299 00:18:00,480 --> 00:18:04,280 Speaker 1: pay in every single year, and I did a quick 300 00:18:04,480 --> 00:18:08,560 Speaker 1: cursory review of my taxes this year, and even with 301 00:18:08,640 --> 00:18:12,800 Speaker 1: the six thousand dollars extra deduction on top of the 302 00:18:12,840 --> 00:18:17,639 Speaker 1: normal standard deduction, plus the extra couple of thousands of 303 00:18:17,680 --> 00:18:22,040 Speaker 1: dollars that senior citizens get, I'm still going to pay. 304 00:18:23,040 --> 00:18:25,359 Speaker 1: I believe pretty much what she's saying is I'm going 305 00:18:25,440 --> 00:18:29,720 Speaker 1: to pay as much as before. In other words, she's not, 306 00:18:30,080 --> 00:18:33,320 Speaker 1: you know, like John was saying, I don't see the relief. 307 00:18:34,720 --> 00:18:39,639 Speaker 1: I know they're talking relief I'm not seeing the relief now. 308 00:18:39,800 --> 00:18:42,639 Speaker 1: Mary Anne says she's going to see her accountant in March, 309 00:18:43,240 --> 00:18:47,280 Speaker 1: so she'll know the final numbers then, and she adds Jeff, look, 310 00:18:47,760 --> 00:18:50,440 Speaker 1: I even have the maximum taken out of my paycheck 311 00:18:50,520 --> 00:18:55,000 Speaker 1: for taxes, and I have even upped my four oh 312 00:18:55,119 --> 00:19:03,000 Speaker 1: one K contributions and it's still not helping. So now 313 00:19:03,040 --> 00:19:04,560 Speaker 1: I do have you, as you know too. I have 314 00:19:04,600 --> 00:19:08,560 Speaker 1: two children, Ashen and Eva, so maybe it's gonna help 315 00:19:08,600 --> 00:19:11,439 Speaker 1: me because we have kids. I don't know, but I 316 00:19:11,520 --> 00:19:14,080 Speaker 1: have been told we're gonna get a nice refund check 317 00:19:14,160 --> 00:19:18,560 Speaker 1: this year, and my assumption was most people are going 318 00:19:18,600 --> 00:19:21,560 Speaker 1: to get a nice refund check. I remember what was it. 319 00:19:21,680 --> 00:19:26,000 Speaker 1: Ronnie from Boston Colden was it a week ago and said, 320 00:19:26,040 --> 00:19:26,520 Speaker 1: what was it? 321 00:19:26,560 --> 00:19:27,159 Speaker 4: He paid He. 322 00:19:27,200 --> 00:19:29,480 Speaker 1: Got a refund check of what was it, fifteen hundred 323 00:19:29,600 --> 00:19:33,560 Speaker 1: or something like that last year. This year it's going 324 00:19:33,600 --> 00:19:37,920 Speaker 1: to be forty eight hundred. So he's saying it's it's 325 00:19:37,960 --> 00:19:42,240 Speaker 1: about a three thousand dollars increase for him. And that's 326 00:19:42,240 --> 00:19:45,080 Speaker 1: why Ronnie was saying, wait till these checks start coming in, 327 00:19:45,760 --> 00:19:48,639 Speaker 1: everyone's gonna have a much different attitude on the economy. 328 00:19:49,440 --> 00:19:52,040 Speaker 1: But I'm hearing from John, I'm hearing from Mary Anne. 329 00:19:52,040 --> 00:19:55,879 Speaker 1: I'm hearing from other listeners. Maybe for you, Jeff, maybe 330 00:19:55,920 --> 00:20:00,879 Speaker 1: for Ronnie, not for us six one seven, Who's sex? Sex? 331 00:20:01,280 --> 00:20:06,080 Speaker 1: Sixty eight? Sixty eight is the number? Joe in Abington. 332 00:20:06,480 --> 00:20:08,640 Speaker 1: Thanks for holding Joe and welcome. 333 00:20:10,440 --> 00:20:13,320 Speaker 5: Thanks a lot for taking my call, my pleas are you. 334 00:20:14,480 --> 00:20:18,720 Speaker 5: I am still stuck on the mind blowing topic of 335 00:20:18,840 --> 00:20:24,879 Speaker 5: the transgender state rep from Minnesota, and I listened to 336 00:20:24,960 --> 00:20:28,399 Speaker 5: that and I just, you know, it just shocks me 337 00:20:28,480 --> 00:20:33,520 Speaker 5: how this trans topic gets more perverted and twisted as 338 00:20:33,560 --> 00:20:38,560 Speaker 5: it's allowed to move on. Trump has made many strides 339 00:20:38,640 --> 00:20:43,880 Speaker 5: of striking language, not paying for sex change operations by 340 00:20:43,880 --> 00:20:48,200 Speaker 5: the military and stuff. But what I heard you quoting 341 00:20:48,280 --> 00:20:54,400 Speaker 5: that guy was his complete lack of respect. You have children, 342 00:20:54,720 --> 00:20:59,920 Speaker 5: for children's innocence, you have that's your number one job, Jeff, 343 00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:02,360 Speaker 5: on this earth as a father. 344 00:21:02,680 --> 00:21:06,240 Speaker 6: You have to protect their innocence. Who they hang out with, 345 00:21:06,680 --> 00:21:11,400 Speaker 6: what they're reading watching on TV. This guy, it doesn't 346 00:21:11,520 --> 00:21:15,920 Speaker 6: even it's not even in his universal thinking. And that's 347 00:21:15,920 --> 00:21:19,399 Speaker 6: why I'm going to say this statement. This man is 348 00:21:19,480 --> 00:21:25,960 Speaker 6: trying to steal children's innocence, which allows evil into their lives. 349 00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:29,919 Speaker 6: And it will shop later in their later teen years. 350 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:32,440 Speaker 6: And he is breeding the. 351 00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:39,200 Speaker 7: Next generation of school shooters, Catholic church shooters. The woman 352 00:21:39,320 --> 00:21:43,160 Speaker 7: down south who is roaming in a Catholic school shooting 353 00:21:43,240 --> 00:21:46,520 Speaker 7: children and teachers. This is what he's doing. 354 00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:51,160 Speaker 1: Oh Joe, you're right. I would even go further if 355 00:21:51,200 --> 00:21:53,080 Speaker 1: you want to. I mean, let me be rerally honest 356 00:21:53,119 --> 00:21:57,800 Speaker 1: with you. I think he's in the kids. To me, 357 00:21:57,840 --> 00:22:01,679 Speaker 1: I'm sorry for him to be adamant on this issue. 358 00:22:01,720 --> 00:22:04,640 Speaker 1: And again, the scary thing is this is a position 359 00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:08,000 Speaker 1: now being picked up by many Democrats. You know it's 360 00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:11,199 Speaker 1: not some fringe guy. I mean, they're using him as 361 00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:15,159 Speaker 1: a transgender guy to be their point person. But you 362 00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:18,840 Speaker 1: know they're they're they're point man on this. But no, Look, 363 00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:22,639 Speaker 1: he wants to groom kids because I believe he wants 364 00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:27,840 Speaker 1: to diddle kids. They want to molest children, and I 365 00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:31,040 Speaker 1: think the long term goal is they want to normalize 366 00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:35,960 Speaker 1: and mainstream pedophilia. I think that's always been the ultimate play. 367 00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:40,840 Speaker 1: And so they're after our children. They've always been after 368 00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:44,240 Speaker 1: our children. And for a man to stand there, I 369 00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:46,600 Speaker 1: don't care if he has a dress and lipstick. He's 370 00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:52,800 Speaker 1: a man, And for him to stand there and say no, no, no, no, six, seven, eight, 371 00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:55,560 Speaker 1: nine year old kids, they need to have access to 372 00:22:55,600 --> 00:22:59,760 Speaker 1: pornography because if they're quote queer children, well they're gonna 373 00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:02,680 Speaker 1: look at gay sex pornography and they're gonna say, that's 374 00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:08,159 Speaker 1: like an educational guide. What And you want this in 375 00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:15,159 Speaker 1: schools and you want this in the libraries. You're a 376 00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:19,120 Speaker 1: sick pervert, that's what you are. You're a sick, degenerate 377 00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:25,680 Speaker 1: pervert who wants to molest and bill kids. And I'm 378 00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:29,359 Speaker 1: telling you, in the old days, this guy would have 379 00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:32,920 Speaker 1: been tarred and feathered. Okay, he would be so afraid 380 00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:36,800 Speaker 1: he wouldn't open his mouth. Now you should see him 381 00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:41,040 Speaker 1: with the jewelry and the lipstick and the dress and 382 00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:44,440 Speaker 1: the female hairstyle, and he asks like he owns the 383 00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:48,679 Speaker 1: state legislature because we have seeded the public square to 384 00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:55,679 Speaker 1: these evil, demonic people. That's what these people are. And 385 00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:57,360 Speaker 1: I'll tell you this. Look, I'm gonna call him out. 386 00:23:57,359 --> 00:24:00,000 Speaker 1: His name is Michelle. Sorry, his name is Angelo. Forgive me. 387 00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:01,320 Speaker 1: His name is Angelo. 388 00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:01,919 Speaker 7: Okay. 389 00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:05,280 Speaker 1: He's a crazy moonbat. He's one of the many moon baths. 390 00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:09,280 Speaker 1: They keep emailing me and emailing me. It's hate after 391 00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:15,040 Speaker 1: hate after hate. This sick sob emails me after I 392 00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:20,359 Speaker 1: did that segment and mocks me for being outraged. So 393 00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:23,000 Speaker 1: I know by the reaction of liberals who listen to 394 00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:29,320 Speaker 1: the show, the haters, they love this instead of condemning it, 395 00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:37,440 Speaker 1: they love it. So these we're dealing with demonic sick perverts. 396 00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:41,760 Speaker 1: You would figure, Hey, look, hey, whoa Jeff, whoa Jeff. 397 00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:46,480 Speaker 1: We may disagree on many issues, but when it comes 398 00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:50,959 Speaker 1: to diddling kids, when it comes to exposing them and 399 00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:55,000 Speaker 1: letting them have access to pornography, I don't care if 400 00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:58,480 Speaker 1: it's straight porn, gay porn, whatever, porn. No, no, no, no, Hey, 401 00:24:58,520 --> 00:25:03,800 Speaker 1: whoa whoa whoa, whoa, whoa whoa. We're gonna protect the 402 00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:07,720 Speaker 1: innocence of our children. Okay, if there's one thing we 403 00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:11,840 Speaker 1: can agree on. We don't molest children, we don't sexualize children, 404 00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:16,440 Speaker 1: We don't abuse our children. No, they don't have access 405 00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:19,880 Speaker 1: to porn over our dead body, No, these sick os 406 00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:25,960 Speaker 1: can't even do that. So, Joe, I'm telling you there 407 00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:30,320 Speaker 1: is no longer any limit to their evil. And this 408 00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:34,000 Speaker 1: has been to me the great gift of Trump. He 409 00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:38,439 Speaker 1: has now unmasked them for who and what they ultimately 410 00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:43,439 Speaker 1: are Chris in the Freedom State Florida. Thanks for holding 411 00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:45,480 Speaker 1: Chris and welcome. 412 00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:49,439 Speaker 4: Hey Jeff. I'm glad John brought this up. So I 413 00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:50,960 Speaker 4: was gonna bring this up a couple of weeks ago, 414 00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:54,520 Speaker 4: but it wasn't the topic of the day. But Marianne, John, 415 00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:56,880 Speaker 4: they're both correct. I'm we and my wife moved down 416 00:25:56,920 --> 00:25:59,359 Speaker 4: from the answer to Florida in twenty twenty two. At 417 00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:01,679 Speaker 4: the end of the year twenty twenty three. Taxes, I 418 00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:05,280 Speaker 4: got back four thousand dollars. We bought a house September 419 00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:07,880 Speaker 4: of twenty twenty three. I was like, great, I did 420 00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:10,640 Speaker 4: my own taxes through TurboTax. I was a single income. 421 00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:15,080 Speaker 4: Nothing special about my tax situation. I'm, you know, claiming zero, 422 00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:19,480 Speaker 4: doing everything like Marianne and John said, twenty twenty four taxes, 423 00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:23,119 Speaker 4: the same exact thing I did through TurboTax, nothing different. 424 00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:25,960 Speaker 4: Still a single income. I owe now one hundred and 425 00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:29,000 Speaker 4: ninety dollars. How did I go from getting four thousand 426 00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:32,199 Speaker 4: back to one hundred and ninety dollars being owed? So 427 00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:35,400 Speaker 4: I paid a tax professional somehow another he was able 428 00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:38,000 Speaker 4: to get me one hundred and sixty bucks back. Great, 429 00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:41,399 Speaker 4: I just did my taxes again for twenty twenty five. 430 00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:45,040 Speaker 4: The only difference this year is my wife did start 431 00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:49,000 Speaker 4: working in July. That could be it. And before I 432 00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:51,720 Speaker 4: added her W two, it looked like in TurboTax that 433 00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:54,000 Speaker 4: I was going to be getting about seven hundred bucks back. 434 00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:57,240 Speaker 4: I added her income in there. Now I owed two 435 00:26:57,320 --> 00:27:01,639 Speaker 4: hundred and sixty bucks this year. And again saying no kids, 436 00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:04,440 Speaker 4: our only daughter, she's an adult now she's on her own, 437 00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:08,200 Speaker 4: so no dependence, both claiming zero on our W fours 438 00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:11,600 Speaker 4: and I and I said the same thing, like what 439 00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:16,200 Speaker 4: happened to the more money in our pockets? And when 440 00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:18,119 Speaker 4: I was hearing you talk about we're all going to 441 00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:21,680 Speaker 4: be getting a big refund, I love you, Jeff. When 442 00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:24,720 Speaker 4: I was aggravated with you, I'm like, where where is this? 443 00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:27,720 Speaker 4: Like I'm not getting it? Am I the only one? 444 00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:30,800 Speaker 4: So I'm really glad to hear that other people are 445 00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:33,159 Speaker 4: dealing with it as well. And yes, Jeff, I do 446 00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:36,439 Speaker 4: believe because you have children that is a big factor 447 00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:37,960 Speaker 4: because when we had our. 448 00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:40,359 Speaker 1: Dependent Yeah, I'm sorry, Chris, I'll give you all the 449 00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:42,720 Speaker 1: time to finish your point. I just want I think 450 00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:45,080 Speaker 1: you're right. I think I look I made a mistake. 451 00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:47,240 Speaker 1: I think I made a mistake, and I'm very sorry 452 00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:50,560 Speaker 1: for that. I just you just assume, right, you know, 453 00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:53,120 Speaker 1: you have children, and I don't know. You just assume 454 00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:56,040 Speaker 1: you know I should have realized. Well, I'm claiming those 455 00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:59,919 Speaker 1: are two dependencies, two dependents. And by the way, just 456 00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:01,880 Speaker 1: as an aside, man, they're reading me out of house 457 00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:05,919 Speaker 1: and home, Chris, if you only knew, Oh my, I 458 00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:10,760 Speaker 1: buy four freaking muffins, okay, four Raisin brand muffins, and 459 00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:15,399 Speaker 1: I haven't touched them. Within a day, They're gone. They're gone. 460 00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:20,800 Speaker 1: Ashton has two, bang Ava has one, bang Grace has 461 00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:23,000 Speaker 1: one with their coffee in the morning. I'm like, what 462 00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:25,439 Speaker 1: that'll happen to the muffins? Look, I didn't even have 463 00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:28,399 Speaker 1: a muffin. But anyway, sorry, just let that go. So 464 00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:31,399 Speaker 1: believe me. I need a refund check. Oh do I 465 00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:34,560 Speaker 1: need a refund check? But no, to your point, Chris, 466 00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:36,879 Speaker 1: I think I just I thought, well, maybe you know, 467 00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:40,080 Speaker 1: I have a couple of dependents, and I just assumed 468 00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:44,800 Speaker 1: that others will be getting a refund check. What I'm 469 00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:48,000 Speaker 1: what I've been told i'll be getting as well, which, 470 00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:50,160 Speaker 1: by the way, I mean it's you know, it's nice money, 471 00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:53,040 Speaker 1: but it's gonna be at a couple thousand dollars, which 472 00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:55,360 Speaker 1: is nice, and I'm not gonna you know, laugh or 473 00:28:55,360 --> 00:29:00,680 Speaker 1: sneer it a couple thousand bucks, you know, but it's 474 00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:02,720 Speaker 1: and I thought, well, people are going to be getting 475 00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:06,240 Speaker 1: what I'm getting, and no, I think you're right. I 476 00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:08,480 Speaker 1: think it's the fact that I have two kids that 477 00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:12,040 Speaker 1: are still under eighteen, that there's still dependents. So anyway, 478 00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:14,680 Speaker 1: keep going, Chris, that was my mistake, and I apologize. 479 00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:17,240 Speaker 1: Keep going, my friend, were. 480 00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:18,960 Speaker 4: All made to believe that this was going to happen. 481 00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:21,600 Speaker 4: There was no fine print, you know that says, oh, well, 482 00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:23,600 Speaker 4: this is only going to apply to people with children. 483 00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:26,760 Speaker 4: But I mean, I'm really glad that we at least 484 00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:29,040 Speaker 4: had the four thousand you know, I had four thousand 485 00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:32,320 Speaker 4: dollars of overtime premium, so partly that big beautiful bill 486 00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:35,480 Speaker 4: kicked in and I'm like, oh, this is the overtime premium. Cool, 487 00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:37,640 Speaker 4: that's going to help with some Well what if I 488 00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:40,160 Speaker 4: didn't have that, how much more would I be paying 489 00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:43,800 Speaker 4: all my taxes this year? So I'm really hoping twenty 490 00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:46,760 Speaker 4: twenty six taxes are going to be where he says 491 00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:49,520 Speaker 4: or where where we all assume that they should be 492 00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:53,320 Speaker 4: more money in our pocket, you know, and I thought 493 00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:56,360 Speaker 4: we were. I didn't realize that that overtime premium was 494 00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:59,880 Speaker 4: just to take away from the taxes that we owe, 495 00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:03,120 Speaker 4: just to help offset. It has nothing to do with 496 00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:05,680 Speaker 4: putting money back in our pocket. Is just to offset 497 00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:08,280 Speaker 4: what we owe in taxes at the end of the year. 498 00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:11,080 Speaker 4: So I'm hoping twenty twenty six is better. But no, 499 00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:13,400 Speaker 4: I know you're a cut for time here, Jeff. I 500 00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:16,040 Speaker 4: do appreciate your time. I'm a lot other folks talk. 501 00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:18,160 Speaker 4: But you have a good day, and thank you. 502 00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:21,480 Speaker 1: That's a really important clarification. And I want to thank 503 00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:25,400 Speaker 1: you again. Best audience in the business. Really, Chris, God 504 00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:28,760 Speaker 1: bless you and please keep calling. Six one seven two 505 00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:33,280 Speaker 1: six six sixty eight sixty eight Maestro Mike. All right, Jim, 506 00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:35,320 Speaker 1: you want me to go to Jim, Jim and Wilmington. 507 00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:39,200 Speaker 1: Thanks for holding Jim, Jim, I've got one minute. 508 00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:39,400 Speaker 2: Go. 509 00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:43,360 Speaker 8: Hello, Jeff, thank you for taking my call. My wife 510 00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:46,720 Speaker 8: and I and Trump's first term, my wife was still working. 511 00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:50,480 Speaker 8: We did very well. We pay a lot of taxes. 512 00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:52,480 Speaker 8: We've paid at least one hundred and fifty that year, 513 00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:57,360 Speaker 8: and the tax preparer kept saying to us, you people 514 00:30:57,400 --> 00:31:00,360 Speaker 8: have done very well. And he wouldn't put I would 515 00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:04,240 Speaker 8: deductions in Forrest. And he said, matter of fact, your 516 00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:07,600 Speaker 8: whole family's doing well, and my sisters and brother. 517 00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:13,920 Speaker 1: Oh, Mike, you gotta be kidding me, man, This is 518 00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:15,240 Speaker 1: where you cut them off, Mike,