1 00:00:31,320 --> 00:00:34,640 Speaker 1: Well, it's the weekend. Welcome at home with Gary Sullivan. 2 00:00:34,760 --> 00:00:37,000 Speaker 1: Another weekend getting a few things done around the home. 3 00:00:37,080 --> 00:00:40,360 Speaker 1: Glad you could join me and boy. A lot of 4 00:00:40,400 --> 00:00:44,400 Speaker 1: parts of the country very cold. I think I don't 5 00:00:44,440 --> 00:00:46,479 Speaker 1: have the exact percentage now, I kind of forget, but 6 00:00:46,520 --> 00:00:49,400 Speaker 1: I saw on the weather forecast like snow cover throughout 7 00:00:49,400 --> 00:00:52,479 Speaker 1: the United States, and last week was forty seven percent 8 00:00:52,600 --> 00:00:55,400 Speaker 1: something along those lines, which was higher than it's been 9 00:00:55,440 --> 00:00:58,720 Speaker 1: in a while. So that means cold temperatures have certainly 10 00:00:58,800 --> 00:01:03,680 Speaker 1: settled in. And always kind of remains me to remind 11 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:08,360 Speaker 1: you to pay attention to pipes that could freeze. I 12 00:01:08,840 --> 00:01:11,319 Speaker 1: know we warn you a lot in September and August, 13 00:01:11,360 --> 00:01:13,920 Speaker 1: but you know, it's never a problem till it's a problem. 14 00:01:14,280 --> 00:01:18,080 Speaker 1: It's hard to think ahead. And you know, if you 15 00:01:18,200 --> 00:01:20,440 Speaker 1: ended up with a frozen pipe, you may not even 16 00:01:20,520 --> 00:01:24,360 Speaker 1: know it. And I was talking to somebody this week, 17 00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:27,119 Speaker 1: I said, you know, when you have a frozen pipe, really, 18 00:01:27,800 --> 00:01:30,960 Speaker 1: how do you know you have a frozen pipe? When 19 00:01:30,959 --> 00:01:33,759 Speaker 1: the water doesn't come out of the faucet. That's how 20 00:01:33,840 --> 00:01:36,959 Speaker 1: most people know they got a frozen pipe. Right, Hopefully 21 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:39,640 Speaker 1: it's not when the pipe is frozen and the copper 22 00:01:39,760 --> 00:01:44,640 Speaker 1: splits and water starts spraying. Hopefully it's not that, because 23 00:01:44,959 --> 00:01:49,600 Speaker 1: that certainly can happen. But I know, I think in 24 00:01:49,640 --> 00:01:53,919 Speaker 1: my entire life, we have one frozen pipe on Christmas morning, 25 00:01:55,000 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 1: daughter's bathtub. Wasn't getting a water pipe in the adda 26 00:02:01,160 --> 00:02:05,520 Speaker 1: wasn't in the uh, in the cavity with the insulation. 27 00:02:06,280 --> 00:02:10,040 Speaker 1: When they built a house, they missed. That's how we 28 00:02:10,120 --> 00:02:14,200 Speaker 1: found out. So we got into really talking about falling 29 00:02:14,240 --> 00:02:16,840 Speaker 1: a pipe. And you know, no open flames. That's that's 30 00:02:16,919 --> 00:02:22,920 Speaker 1: number one one. No, don't use a torch, please, hair dryer. Sure, 31 00:02:24,200 --> 00:02:29,000 Speaker 1: heating picture, but you can usually see where the pipe 32 00:02:29,040 --> 00:02:31,640 Speaker 1: is frozen. Sometimes it'll be frost on the outside of it. 33 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:38,600 Speaker 1: And uh, but slow heat, no open flame, and uh, 34 00:02:38,639 --> 00:02:43,440 Speaker 1: if you got pecks, uh, you know the pecks plumbing, 35 00:02:44,840 --> 00:02:49,360 Speaker 1: same way, heat just degraded. If you got a heat gun, 36 00:02:49,440 --> 00:02:52,919 Speaker 1: you can use that on copper, maybe on medium heat. 37 00:02:53,400 --> 00:02:55,920 Speaker 1: If you got pecs, maybe on low heat. Maybe just 38 00:02:55,919 --> 00:03:01,360 Speaker 1: stick with the hair dryer. Outside of that then solve 39 00:03:01,400 --> 00:03:07,320 Speaker 1: the problem either wrapping it with an insulating sleeve or 40 00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:12,000 Speaker 1: getting some insulation around it. But mainly it's an older 41 00:03:12,080 --> 00:03:16,160 Speaker 1: house issue. If it hasn't been. You know, maybe the 42 00:03:16,200 --> 00:03:18,720 Speaker 1: same people had the house for years and years and years, 43 00:03:18,760 --> 00:03:22,560 Speaker 1: and you know they would address it when it got 44 00:03:22,560 --> 00:03:25,760 Speaker 1: real cold or something along those lines, and they sell 45 00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:28,400 Speaker 1: the house and new people get it and they're not 46 00:03:29,840 --> 00:03:32,720 Speaker 1: I don't know the history of the house, and you 47 00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:36,360 Speaker 1: got to do a little inspection. Outside walls. That's a placeboy, 48 00:03:36,960 --> 00:03:39,600 Speaker 1: that's the first place you want to look. Plumbing running 49 00:03:39,600 --> 00:03:43,160 Speaker 1: on outside walls and homes built prior to nineteen seventy, 50 00:03:43,880 --> 00:03:48,800 Speaker 1: that's a really good place you'll find. You'll find the 51 00:03:48,880 --> 00:03:51,840 Speaker 1: need for some insulation or maybe even a heat tape 52 00:03:52,840 --> 00:03:58,520 Speaker 1: outside walls, garages, cross spaces, attics, areas that are normally 53 00:03:58,560 --> 00:04:02,920 Speaker 1: not heated. Basically is what should looking for. And with 54 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:07,320 Speaker 1: all the preaching we did in September in August about 55 00:04:07,640 --> 00:04:11,280 Speaker 1: or probably October. September and October about disconnect the hose 56 00:04:11,320 --> 00:04:14,200 Speaker 1: on the outside faucet, I hear everybody talking about that now. 57 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:20,400 Speaker 1: It's pretty interesting because probably fifteen years nobody talked about that. 58 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:22,880 Speaker 1: I think that's uh. Everybody thought, oh, I got a 59 00:04:22,880 --> 00:04:25,240 Speaker 1: frostproof faucet. I don't have to do anything, And in 60 00:04:25,279 --> 00:04:29,760 Speaker 1: a way, you really don't, except for one thing, not 61 00:04:29,880 --> 00:04:32,320 Speaker 1: so much the faucet, But you got to take the 62 00:04:32,360 --> 00:04:36,520 Speaker 1: hose off the faucet. Otherwise, if you turn off the 63 00:04:36,839 --> 00:04:40,520 Speaker 1: UH faucet and the hose is filled with water, that 64 00:04:40,640 --> 00:04:44,120 Speaker 1: water has nowhere to go kind of back up, back 65 00:04:44,160 --> 00:04:47,560 Speaker 1: flows back into the faucet into that pipe that is 66 00:04:47,560 --> 00:04:52,000 Speaker 1: supposed to be frostproof. Well it's not, because we enclculate 67 00:04:52,040 --> 00:04:53,880 Speaker 1: all that water standing water in a hose. But if 68 00:04:53,880 --> 00:04:58,080 Speaker 1: you disconnected the hose drains, then you're good. Then you're 69 00:04:58,120 --> 00:05:01,320 Speaker 1: good unless you got the old type landscaping faucet where 70 00:05:01,360 --> 00:05:06,240 Speaker 1: you got a valve just inside the house. Right behind 71 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:11,400 Speaker 1: where that UH valve is, there'll be a little valve 72 00:05:11,440 --> 00:05:13,880 Speaker 1: inside the house with a little cap on it. Just 73 00:05:13,920 --> 00:05:17,120 Speaker 1: turn that off and unscrew that cap and back drain 74 00:05:17,240 --> 00:05:20,440 Speaker 1: it and you're good. So anyway, let's open up the 75 00:05:20,440 --> 00:05:23,000 Speaker 1: phone lines. Happy to talk to you about what you 76 00:05:23,120 --> 00:05:26,960 Speaker 1: want to speak of about your home. Our phone number 77 00:05:27,040 --> 00:05:30,400 Speaker 1: is eight hundred eighty two three eight two five y five. 78 00:05:31,400 --> 00:05:33,840 Speaker 1: That's eight hundred eighty two three eight two five five 79 00:05:34,360 --> 00:05:38,400 Speaker 1: and uh. We'll discuss some of the things that really 80 00:05:38,440 --> 00:05:42,640 Speaker 1: can cause you problems down the road. And of course 81 00:05:42,680 --> 00:05:45,600 Speaker 1: we're always talking about humidity and it's dry and cold 82 00:05:45,600 --> 00:05:50,360 Speaker 1: outside right now, so it's probably a little uh Chillian 83 00:05:50,520 --> 00:05:54,359 Speaker 1: dry in your house. So remember that number, thirty five percent. 84 00:05:54,440 --> 00:05:58,599 Speaker 1: That's about where we want to be, and that's in 85 00:05:58,640 --> 00:06:05,320 Speaker 1: the living quarters. I to do actually put my thermostatic back 86 00:06:05,360 --> 00:06:13,640 Speaker 1: on my easy breathe. I got a humidifier, and I 87 00:06:13,680 --> 00:06:16,039 Speaker 1: got a do humidifire. Do you minify we're not using 88 00:06:16,120 --> 00:06:21,040 Speaker 1: right now, but the humidifiers putting in some moisture. My 89 00:06:21,560 --> 00:06:25,680 Speaker 1: in my living quarters today was thirty six percent. Absolutely 90 00:06:26,320 --> 00:06:30,280 Speaker 1: as close to perfect as you can get, but still 91 00:06:30,279 --> 00:06:32,000 Speaker 1: felt a little dry. And you know, I'm always talking 92 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:35,240 Speaker 1: about stack effect. You know, like in the summertime, if 93 00:06:35,240 --> 00:06:38,000 Speaker 1: you got humidity seventy percent down in your basement, your 94 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:42,640 Speaker 1: living quarters might be sixty percent and upstairs might be 95 00:06:42,680 --> 00:06:47,440 Speaker 1: fifty percent, but it's marching up armor. When I went 96 00:06:47,480 --> 00:06:51,640 Speaker 1: downstairs the other day, the basement humidification was twenty five percent. 97 00:06:53,279 --> 00:06:56,840 Speaker 1: And that's where we're exchanging error bringing the dryer downstairs. 98 00:06:56,880 --> 00:07:01,839 Speaker 1: They dry in that basement. So I turn the therma 99 00:07:02,120 --> 00:07:07,800 Speaker 1: or the humidistat so that the that the easy breathe 100 00:07:07,800 --> 00:07:12,040 Speaker 1: will actually shut off when it's like thirty five percent, 101 00:07:12,200 --> 00:07:14,760 Speaker 1: It won't just keep running because in a weird time, 102 00:07:14,800 --> 00:07:19,080 Speaker 1: I'm running that thing full bore, you know, to control 103 00:07:19,120 --> 00:07:23,680 Speaker 1: that humidity, get out those toxins in the basement. And 104 00:07:23,800 --> 00:07:26,600 Speaker 1: it was pretty dry down there. So I rectified that 105 00:07:26,720 --> 00:07:32,120 Speaker 1: situation pretty quickly. I just put that you ministat on. 106 00:07:32,280 --> 00:07:35,480 Speaker 1: Let it get a little dampness in there, dampness meaning 107 00:07:35,600 --> 00:07:38,320 Speaker 1: bringing it up from like twenty seven percent up to 108 00:07:38,400 --> 00:07:43,480 Speaker 1: about thirty eight percent. Perfect, perfect, and we'll just keep 109 00:07:43,520 --> 00:07:46,480 Speaker 1: it controlled that way. So we've talked a lot about 110 00:07:46,520 --> 00:07:48,360 Speaker 1: that in the past. I have to say, that's the 111 00:07:48,400 --> 00:07:50,680 Speaker 1: first time I've really started thinking that's pretty almost a 112 00:07:50,720 --> 00:07:52,880 Speaker 1: little too dry down here. I don't know if I've 113 00:07:52,920 --> 00:07:55,840 Speaker 1: ever said that about my basement. So we can chat 114 00:07:55,840 --> 00:07:59,880 Speaker 1: about that also, we can. Uh, there's so many things 115 00:08:00,280 --> 00:08:01,880 Speaker 1: going on right now. We got that as I was 116 00:08:01,920 --> 00:08:03,760 Speaker 1: talking with Ron Wilson. We had the Color of the 117 00:08:03,840 --> 00:08:08,000 Speaker 1: Year by Pantone finally came out, Cloud Dancer. It's an 118 00:08:08,280 --> 00:08:12,160 Speaker 1: off white white. He's g real pale gray, very pale, 119 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:15,360 Speaker 1: and everybody was all, abouz, the color of the year 120 00:08:15,440 --> 00:08:18,880 Speaker 1: is white. What's going on? You know? But as we've 121 00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:23,040 Speaker 1: chatted a lot, White's becoming a big player on the 122 00:08:23,080 --> 00:08:26,200 Speaker 1: outside of home. So you've probably seen him in your neighborhood. Uh, 123 00:08:27,920 --> 00:08:30,040 Speaker 1: especially if you live in a I'm seeing it where 124 00:08:30,080 --> 00:08:34,640 Speaker 1: people are transitioning. Man, I'm not sure I would do 125 00:08:34,720 --> 00:08:38,679 Speaker 1: this to my house like ever. And that's when you 126 00:08:38,760 --> 00:08:41,040 Speaker 1: got a you know, twenty five thirty year old brick 127 00:08:41,080 --> 00:08:43,800 Speaker 1: home and you're gonna paint that brick white. Just I mean, 128 00:08:43,880 --> 00:08:50,160 Speaker 1: it totally totally changes the looks of the house. They 129 00:08:50,240 --> 00:08:52,360 Speaker 1: painted white and then you do all your trim and black. 130 00:08:53,200 --> 00:08:56,440 Speaker 1: But I'll tell you when it's done, it does look sharp. 131 00:08:57,040 --> 00:08:59,560 Speaker 1: It does look sharp. The house is that I don't 132 00:08:59,600 --> 00:09:01,920 Speaker 1: like a new subdivisions now, and I see this is 133 00:09:02,880 --> 00:09:06,120 Speaker 1: they've done the black trim, but they left the brick 134 00:09:06,520 --> 00:09:11,160 Speaker 1: that looks like the haunted house. Stay away from that house, kids. 135 00:09:11,640 --> 00:09:15,199 Speaker 1: So uh anyway, the color of the Year by Pantone 136 00:09:15,240 --> 00:09:19,080 Speaker 1: and they are the experts. It is a cloud Dancer. 137 00:09:19,360 --> 00:09:22,000 Speaker 1: Well just an off white. All right, we're gonna take 138 00:09:22,040 --> 00:09:25,120 Speaker 1: a break and Richard you'll be up first, So sit tight. 139 00:09:25,320 --> 00:09:28,079 Speaker 1: Our phone number is eight hundred and eight two three 140 00:09:28,360 --> 00:09:31,920 Speaker 1: A two five five. 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I told Richard he'd be up first, 183 00:12:25,720 --> 00:12:28,760 Speaker 1: but I forgot the gardening segment, and there's gardening to 184 00:12:28,840 --> 00:12:31,320 Speaker 1: do inside. So Richard, if you could just sit tight, 185 00:12:31,400 --> 00:12:33,240 Speaker 1: we'll get we'll chat with Ron here. 186 00:12:34,160 --> 00:12:35,439 Speaker 3: Wait, Gary made a mistake? 187 00:12:35,480 --> 00:12:38,360 Speaker 1: Who I did? I did? I should you know? I 188 00:12:38,360 --> 00:12:44,720 Speaker 1: should never, frister, mister unforgettable, Yes, sir, I know what happened. 189 00:12:44,720 --> 00:12:46,760 Speaker 3: I just want you to know. My parents home we 190 00:12:46,760 --> 00:12:49,880 Speaker 3: lived in Greensburg, Indiana. Uh huh was a peace home. 191 00:12:50,360 --> 00:12:53,920 Speaker 3: Oh okay, and my father actually helped build a house, 192 00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:58,400 Speaker 3: but was red brick, white trim and black shutters. 193 00:12:58,640 --> 00:12:59,280 Speaker 1: There you go. 194 00:13:00,200 --> 00:13:01,640 Speaker 3: And it wasn't a haunted house. 195 00:13:02,440 --> 00:13:05,280 Speaker 1: Well I think it. I shouldn't have said that, but 196 00:13:05,360 --> 00:13:09,280 Speaker 1: there is a home and I passed originally. It is 197 00:13:09,320 --> 00:13:12,520 Speaker 1: a beautiful home. I mean it truly is. It's a beautiful, 198 00:13:12,520 --> 00:13:19,160 Speaker 1: beautiful home and very very well maintained. And this year 199 00:13:19,200 --> 00:13:21,400 Speaker 1: they painted. I couldn't. I can't even tell you what 200 00:13:21,440 --> 00:13:23,840 Speaker 1: they eat. Trim was on that home, but I don't remember, 201 00:13:24,400 --> 00:13:28,640 Speaker 1: but they painted the trim in black. But the brick 202 00:13:30,360 --> 00:13:34,440 Speaker 1: it's it's kind of like a chocolate brown, Okay, and 203 00:13:34,520 --> 00:13:39,320 Speaker 1: it just it it just doesn't look warmy, it doesn't 204 00:13:39,320 --> 00:13:41,720 Speaker 1: look It doesn't work for me, not to say it 205 00:13:41,720 --> 00:13:47,640 Speaker 1: doesn't work for somebody. Yeah, just it. Gosh, it's just 206 00:13:47,679 --> 00:13:51,640 Speaker 1: the wrong color of brick. It's too dark. The brick 207 00:13:51,760 --> 00:13:53,000 Speaker 1: is too dark for a black trim. 208 00:13:53,080 --> 00:13:54,280 Speaker 3: Maybe they need cloud dancer. 209 00:13:54,720 --> 00:13:57,079 Speaker 1: Yeah, they need a little cloud dancer. Color of the Year, 210 00:13:57,160 --> 00:13:59,280 Speaker 1: my pantum fellaly got around to it. I love it. 211 00:13:59,840 --> 00:14:01,520 Speaker 1: I think it's kind of like a sand of beard. 212 00:14:02,960 --> 00:14:04,200 Speaker 1: What Santa Beard? 213 00:14:04,280 --> 00:14:05,080 Speaker 3: Oh, okay, that's. 214 00:14:04,920 --> 00:14:06,400 Speaker 1: Gonna be a color of your next year. It's gonna 215 00:14:06,400 --> 00:14:09,320 Speaker 1: be all white too. It's gonna be a whitish yellow. 216 00:14:10,880 --> 00:14:13,640 Speaker 1: It's gonna be called Santo Beard. And the runner up 217 00:14:13,720 --> 00:14:15,400 Speaker 1: is gonna be called Cheeto fingers. 218 00:14:18,800 --> 00:14:20,479 Speaker 3: It's gonna be a orange. 219 00:14:20,560 --> 00:14:22,000 Speaker 1: What do you think I think we had to get 220 00:14:22,000 --> 00:14:23,080 Speaker 1: a job naming colors. 221 00:14:23,200 --> 00:14:24,280 Speaker 3: I think it'd be a blast. 222 00:14:24,480 --> 00:14:27,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, how about how about Dead House playing brown? 223 00:14:28,120 --> 00:14:29,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, that would work. 224 00:14:29,960 --> 00:14:31,760 Speaker 1: I'm telling you the descriptive. 225 00:14:31,320 --> 00:14:33,880 Speaker 3: Sit around a table and then when they need plants anymore, 226 00:14:33,960 --> 00:14:35,360 Speaker 3: all that I think that, you know, you'd get a 227 00:14:35,360 --> 00:14:36,840 Speaker 3: couple of bottles of wine subourbon. 228 00:14:37,040 --> 00:14:41,080 Speaker 1: That's it and just sounds better. But yeah, dead playing 229 00:14:41,080 --> 00:14:45,840 Speaker 1: out dead brown. Yeah, I mean it's got chocolate moose. 230 00:14:46,280 --> 00:14:48,000 Speaker 3: Uh huh uh huh. 231 00:14:48,240 --> 00:14:52,000 Speaker 1: And then we got point set of a red say 232 00:14:52,040 --> 00:14:54,240 Speaker 1: coming all kinds of colors now, don't they. 233 00:14:54,280 --> 00:14:57,400 Speaker 3: You can get them custom painted to whatever color you want. 234 00:14:58,440 --> 00:15:02,040 Speaker 3: That's that's still that's maybe a multi color kind of 235 00:15:02,040 --> 00:15:05,520 Speaker 3: not flying with a lot of garden centers, but that's 236 00:15:05,560 --> 00:15:07,600 Speaker 3: available now. They have a floral paint that you can 237 00:15:07,680 --> 00:15:10,200 Speaker 3: you know, if you've got a purple you can come by, 238 00:15:10,320 --> 00:15:12,040 Speaker 3: yeah and nel spray paint with a little bit of 239 00:15:12,040 --> 00:15:14,640 Speaker 3: a glitter on there and then make them whatever color 240 00:15:14,680 --> 00:15:16,560 Speaker 3: you want. You know what I am getting On a 241 00:15:16,560 --> 00:15:18,960 Speaker 3: serious note? Uh And well that's serious because they do that. 242 00:15:19,080 --> 00:15:21,880 Speaker 3: But I get emails all the time, and I got 243 00:15:21,880 --> 00:15:23,880 Speaker 3: one this past week from my brother in law sent 244 00:15:23,920 --> 00:15:27,280 Speaker 3: me a example of hostas that he found on the internet. 245 00:15:27,920 --> 00:15:32,800 Speaker 3: There were multiple colored blue, pink, red, purple. 246 00:15:33,000 --> 00:15:34,200 Speaker 1: I'm not digging that either. 247 00:15:34,520 --> 00:15:37,200 Speaker 3: Well they His question was is this for real or 248 00:15:37,280 --> 00:15:41,760 Speaker 3: is this BS? And it's not real, it's it's AI 249 00:15:41,960 --> 00:15:45,600 Speaker 3: generated and these I mean, if you see these colors, Gary, 250 00:15:45,600 --> 00:15:49,400 Speaker 3: they're fluorescent reds, and and and and and the one 251 00:15:49,480 --> 00:15:52,800 Speaker 3: plant had all the different colors on each leaf. 252 00:15:53,520 --> 00:15:57,000 Speaker 1: Okay, so tell me this. Why do people want to 253 00:15:57,040 --> 00:15:59,640 Speaker 1: do that? I mean, not not color them, but want 254 00:15:59,640 --> 00:16:01,840 Speaker 1: to put something out like that. 255 00:16:02,480 --> 00:16:05,600 Speaker 3: I don't know, but there's actual websites and the kicker 256 00:16:05,720 --> 00:16:08,160 Speaker 3: is like and you probably tell people the same thing 257 00:16:08,160 --> 00:16:10,440 Speaker 3: with home improving products. If it looks too good to 258 00:16:10,480 --> 00:16:13,400 Speaker 3: be true, you know the old saying it typically is, 259 00:16:14,160 --> 00:16:17,200 Speaker 3: and there's a product that you know, Okay, those colors 260 00:16:17,200 --> 00:16:20,640 Speaker 3: are no plan has those colors. First of all, right, Secondly, 261 00:16:20,720 --> 00:16:24,280 Speaker 3: if those were available, don't you think every garden center 262 00:16:24,320 --> 00:16:25,280 Speaker 3: would be growing. 263 00:16:25,000 --> 00:16:26,480 Speaker 1: Those because they're ugly? 264 00:16:26,760 --> 00:16:28,840 Speaker 3: Well, it is ugly, but everybody wants to see what 265 00:16:28,840 --> 00:16:29,400 Speaker 3: they look like. 266 00:16:29,480 --> 00:16:30,720 Speaker 1: Everybody wants to be trendy. 267 00:16:30,880 --> 00:16:34,160 Speaker 3: Everybody would happen. And third they sell you the seed. 268 00:16:35,160 --> 00:16:39,960 Speaker 3: Oh no, and nobody grows hostas from seedeed. It's all 269 00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:44,080 Speaker 3: from rooted roote divisions, the clump divisions. And so it's 270 00:16:44,120 --> 00:16:47,560 Speaker 3: a it's a it's a hoax and why And I've 271 00:16:47,600 --> 00:16:50,440 Speaker 3: gotten a bazillion emails about that, and some pogonias and 272 00:16:50,480 --> 00:16:53,240 Speaker 3: some other things that they've done this to and it's 273 00:16:53,280 --> 00:16:54,080 Speaker 3: not real. 274 00:16:54,240 --> 00:16:58,360 Speaker 1: Understand what the honest to goodness like, I think I'm 275 00:16:58,360 --> 00:17:01,720 Speaker 1: gonna come up today and have put a whole line 276 00:17:01,760 --> 00:17:03,360 Speaker 1: of two headed hammers. 277 00:17:02,960 --> 00:17:04,119 Speaker 3: Together or something. 278 00:17:04,240 --> 00:17:07,720 Speaker 1: I don't know. It's like, it's like, why are you 279 00:17:07,800 --> 00:17:10,679 Speaker 1: doing that? And first of all, even the hostesses, you 280 00:17:10,720 --> 00:17:14,880 Speaker 1: know I'm a crmungeon to day. Let me tell you. 281 00:17:14,960 --> 00:17:18,919 Speaker 1: With all the different colors, I just want a red point. 282 00:17:21,000 --> 00:17:23,520 Speaker 3: Well you know what one is. I love red obviously, 283 00:17:24,119 --> 00:17:27,399 Speaker 3: Whites are nice, and I like pink, and I like 284 00:17:27,440 --> 00:17:29,440 Speaker 3: some of the marbles. I mean those are those are okay, 285 00:17:29,480 --> 00:17:31,840 Speaker 3: I like those. But when you start looking at these 286 00:17:32,160 --> 00:17:36,320 Speaker 3: blues and purples and glitter glitter on there and you 287 00:17:36,359 --> 00:17:39,520 Speaker 3: can match it to your wall color but whatever color 288 00:17:39,560 --> 00:17:43,920 Speaker 3: of the year it was, and uh no, it's just like, nah, 289 00:17:43,960 --> 00:17:44,600 Speaker 3: I don't think so. 290 00:17:44,920 --> 00:17:50,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, I've always craved a blue gold glitter hostas in 291 00:17:50,359 --> 00:17:55,639 Speaker 1: my backyard blue and gold. I always wanted one, maybe 292 00:17:55,680 --> 00:17:59,240 Speaker 1: with a sprinkling of red too, or fluorescent orange. Simn't 293 00:17:59,240 --> 00:18:01,000 Speaker 1: you ever said that you looked at that night. 294 00:18:01,640 --> 00:18:03,919 Speaker 3: I'll send you this link. I mean, you'll look at 295 00:18:03,960 --> 00:18:06,439 Speaker 3: these colors and you go who you will say exactly 296 00:18:06,440 --> 00:18:08,080 Speaker 3: what you said. Why would you even want that in 297 00:18:08,119 --> 00:18:08,600 Speaker 3: your garden? 298 00:18:08,840 --> 00:18:10,360 Speaker 1: My rabbits would go crazy. 299 00:18:10,720 --> 00:18:14,440 Speaker 3: They'd come back, they want to go. 300 00:18:14,480 --> 00:18:16,800 Speaker 1: Check out that blue hostess. That house over there is 301 00:18:16,880 --> 00:18:17,960 Speaker 1: I'm not eating nutstuff now. 302 00:18:17,960 --> 00:18:20,640 Speaker 3: See there are actually blue hostas blue leafd TSSA. That's 303 00:18:20,640 --> 00:18:24,280 Speaker 3: a category, but it's a green blue. It's not blue blue. 304 00:18:25,160 --> 00:18:27,800 Speaker 3: But yeah, it's just crazy. So we're seeing that more 305 00:18:27,840 --> 00:18:30,879 Speaker 3: and more even in our industry, and a lot of 306 00:18:30,880 --> 00:18:32,800 Speaker 3: times in some of the seed catalogs. You should to 307 00:18:32,880 --> 00:18:35,320 Speaker 3: be careful because they would do a little color enhancing, 308 00:18:36,280 --> 00:18:38,440 Speaker 3: you know, is it really that red? Is it really 309 00:18:38,480 --> 00:18:39,080 Speaker 3: that pink? 310 00:18:39,280 --> 00:18:41,800 Speaker 1: So what are they gonna do? Buy the seeds and 311 00:18:41,840 --> 00:18:45,479 Speaker 1: then be very disappointed. Yeah, why would a seed company 312 00:18:45,520 --> 00:18:46,320 Speaker 1: want to do that? 313 00:18:46,440 --> 00:18:50,600 Speaker 3: Well, it's somebody that's just selling these. It shows the progression. 314 00:18:50,840 --> 00:18:53,479 Speaker 3: So it shows when they come up they're green, and 315 00:18:53,520 --> 00:18:56,199 Speaker 3: that they turn to these colors. So if you do 316 00:18:56,240 --> 00:18:58,080 Speaker 3: get the seeds to come up and they it's hard 317 00:18:58,080 --> 00:19:02,040 Speaker 3: to grow them from seed, they will start out green. 318 00:19:02,280 --> 00:19:04,080 Speaker 1: I can't wait to get me a pink tomato. 319 00:19:04,880 --> 00:19:10,280 Speaker 3: Oh that's available, of course it is blue amato. 320 00:19:11,080 --> 00:19:12,080 Speaker 1: Fine with me, Thank you? 321 00:19:12,320 --> 00:19:12,880 Speaker 3: There you go. 322 00:19:14,400 --> 00:19:16,920 Speaker 1: You're lightning. I'm always run well. 323 00:19:17,320 --> 00:19:19,200 Speaker 3: I'm that unforgettable type of a person. 324 00:19:19,200 --> 00:19:22,399 Speaker 1: There you are, there you go, Thanks buddy, appreciated. 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All right 367 00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:17,679 Speaker 1: back here do we go at home with Gary Salivan 368 00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:20,040 Speaker 1: Another weekend getting a few things done around the home. 369 00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:23,520 Speaker 1: Happy to have you. It's eight hundred eight two three 370 00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:26,600 Speaker 1: eight two five five Richard. Thank you for hanging on. 371 00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:33,879 Speaker 1: I appreciate it. Hello, yes, sir, uh my question. 372 00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:38,680 Speaker 4: I've been a contractor for years and people are spraying 373 00:22:38,760 --> 00:22:43,560 Speaker 4: foam insulation against the roof deck of houses and ceiling 374 00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:47,000 Speaker 4: addicts off and I don't think that's right for the 375 00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:51,560 Speaker 4: insulation to be a deck directly against the roof deck. 376 00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:56,640 Speaker 4: How do you cool the insulation? Years ago, I had 377 00:22:56,640 --> 00:22:59,120 Speaker 4: a guide tell me my air conditioner runs all night. 378 00:22:59,119 --> 00:23:02,160 Speaker 4: And I looked at his else and there was no 379 00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:05,800 Speaker 4: ventilation in the attic and only like six inches insulation, 380 00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:11,520 Speaker 4: and he he had me insulate that and with the ventilation. 381 00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:14,000 Speaker 4: I told him now that he's not going to go 382 00:23:14,119 --> 00:23:17,760 Speaker 4: down every inch of your insulation until your ceilings as 383 00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:22,400 Speaker 4: hot as the attic. And he said, after a couple 384 00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:25,240 Speaker 4: of weeks after I did it, he goes my ericanice 385 00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:30,359 Speaker 4: just shuts off at nine o'clock. He says, good, I 386 00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:33,240 Speaker 4: just don't see how that falls well against it. 387 00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:36,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, if you you know, being a contractor, you've seen 388 00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:44,240 Speaker 1: things just evolve. And I'm not saying, were you in Nebraska? Yeah, yeah, 389 00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:50,320 Speaker 1: So things evolve and they DeVault as they develop. It's 390 00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:53,480 Speaker 1: usually different ranges of the company. So you know, the 391 00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:57,960 Speaker 1: whole story houses, you know, we had we had no ventilation, 392 00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:01,480 Speaker 1: so Zaddi Scott. You know, one hundred and forty degrees. 393 00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:05,639 Speaker 1: We had insulation on the floor of the attic of course, 394 00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:07,960 Speaker 1: to trying to kind of buffer that so that heat 395 00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:11,080 Speaker 1: doesn't get down into the house. And then in the 396 00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:15,720 Speaker 1: seventies we started you know, doing ventilation with softa venting 397 00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:20,800 Speaker 1: and ridge venting and having convection. Even ninety degree temperatures 398 00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:23,399 Speaker 1: outside were cooler than one hundred and forty degrees in 399 00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:27,080 Speaker 1: the attic, and you know, we used the attic as 400 00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:29,119 Speaker 1: a chimney. We put a ridge vent up there. The 401 00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:31,040 Speaker 1: hot air went out, the cooler air, even though it 402 00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:35,080 Speaker 1: was ninety degrees came in. But about twenty five years 403 00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:41,640 Speaker 1: ago down in the southeast, they started what they call 404 00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:47,560 Speaker 1: a whole house encapsulation. And what it was was, even 405 00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:52,720 Speaker 1: with ventilation, those air handlers that were up in attics 406 00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:57,960 Speaker 1: just were working really hard and they started encapsulating the 407 00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:02,960 Speaker 1: whole attic. So so they weren't really necessarily worrying about 408 00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:07,800 Speaker 1: the insulation on the floor anymore. They were focused underneath 409 00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:11,760 Speaker 1: the roof to not allow that heat to penetrate through 410 00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:15,080 Speaker 1: the shingles and through the roofing, decking and heat up 411 00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:19,080 Speaker 1: that attic. And they didn't bring in you know, there 412 00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:22,840 Speaker 1: wasn't ventilation. They did the walls, they did the underneath 413 00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:25,440 Speaker 1: of the ceiling, and quite honestly, a lot of them 414 00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:28,040 Speaker 1: even took up insulation off the floor of the attic. 415 00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:32,679 Speaker 1: And what they and they didn't air condition the attic, 416 00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:37,199 Speaker 1: but they let the natural uh, it was a semi 417 00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:42,080 Speaker 1: conditioned space. In other words, it was keeping the heat out. 418 00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:46,280 Speaker 1: The cool from the air conditioner worked its way into 419 00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:49,800 Speaker 1: the attic and you know, it kept it you know, 420 00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:52,640 Speaker 1: the same I don't know if it was the same temperature, 421 00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:56,160 Speaker 1: I shouldn't say that, but let's say a palatable temperature 422 00:25:56,200 --> 00:26:02,120 Speaker 1: in the attic, and that that hit proved to be 423 00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:07,960 Speaker 1: especially if you had air handlers in the attic. You know, 424 00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:10,720 Speaker 1: a good way it was another way, let's put it. 425 00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:14,720 Speaker 1: That way is another way. And you know, I'm our 426 00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:18,960 Speaker 1: flagship station's in Ohio, and there's probably some houses that 427 00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:22,480 Speaker 1: have whole house encapsulation in addicts, but it's still more 428 00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:27,320 Speaker 1: of a real hot temperature geography where they're using that. 429 00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:34,480 Speaker 4: I just don't understand why you don't need airspace above 430 00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:38,920 Speaker 4: the foam for to cool the foam. That heat, if 431 00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:42,800 Speaker 4: it don't get dissipated, it just starts working its way 432 00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:49,040 Speaker 4: through the insulation and pretty soon, pretty soon your AC 433 00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:52,840 Speaker 4: is cooling the wall that's a hundred degrees because it's 434 00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:54,040 Speaker 4: not cooling itself. 435 00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:57,119 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, i'd have to do. I mean, it's proven 436 00:26:57,200 --> 00:26:59,720 Speaker 1: successful and been there twenty twenty five years, but I 437 00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:02,720 Speaker 1: guess I can't really explain it to you in simple 438 00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:06,600 Speaker 1: terms without kind of going back and researching. And I 439 00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:08,760 Speaker 1: don't have it. I'm not really in a zone that's 440 00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:13,159 Speaker 1: using it a lot, but I do know and in fact, 441 00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:16,880 Speaker 1: it's it's gaining in popularity quite honestly. 442 00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:19,680 Speaker 4: Well, yeah, I know that. 443 00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:22,360 Speaker 1: You know, I don't know a lot of your different 444 00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:27,360 Speaker 1: roofing materials now also a little bit of a radiant barrier, 445 00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:30,719 Speaker 1: so you minimize solar heat gained through shingles. I know 446 00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:34,760 Speaker 1: metal roofing, their coatings are very much a radiant barrier 447 00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:38,840 Speaker 1: built into that metal roofing. So you know, I don't 448 00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:41,640 Speaker 1: know if it's there yet, but you know, in those 449 00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:44,880 Speaker 1: areas it functions quite well. Whether it continues to grow, 450 00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:46,480 Speaker 1: we'll see. 451 00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:48,640 Speaker 3: Yeah. 452 00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:52,480 Speaker 1: Well, all right, thanks for the call, Richard, I appreciate it. 453 00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:53,959 Speaker 1: Let's go to Betty. 454 00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:59,240 Speaker 5: Betty, welcome, thank you for taking my call. I'm getting 455 00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:02,000 Speaker 5: ready to put my house up for sale, and it 456 00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:06,280 Speaker 5: was built in seventy six. Though I have the paneling 457 00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:10,280 Speaker 5: in the rick room. Okay, how do I cover that over? 458 00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:15,640 Speaker 5: I've had somebody say paint it, somebody said dry wall 459 00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:19,959 Speaker 5: over it. Somebody said put like a plaster type of 460 00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:21,880 Speaker 5: thing over it. What's your idea? 461 00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:24,240 Speaker 1: Well, you can do all kinds of things, and I 462 00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:26,560 Speaker 1: think you name some of them. I think the question 463 00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:28,560 Speaker 1: is what do you want it to look like when 464 00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:32,000 Speaker 1: you're finished? I mean, if you paint it, it's going 465 00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:38,040 Speaker 1: to look like paint, okay, And if you dry wallet, 466 00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:41,760 Speaker 1: it's going to be a little bit of work, right, 467 00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:45,160 Speaker 1: I mean, you're gonna take that paneling off. You might 468 00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:49,280 Speaker 1: look at maybe putting quarter inch drywall over the paneling. 469 00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:53,800 Speaker 1: That could be an option. There's also something called wall liner, 470 00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:57,760 Speaker 1: which is a cloth with a little It comes in 471 00:28:57,800 --> 00:29:00,200 Speaker 1: different patterns. It's got a little stipple on it, like 472 00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:03,000 Speaker 1: a popcorn, and it's got a little swirl like plaster, 473 00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:08,240 Speaker 1: and it hangs horizontally. You would have to come and 474 00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:13,440 Speaker 1: you know, fill all the the the salt cuts in 475 00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:16,719 Speaker 1: the paneling to make those smooth, and you do that 476 00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:20,160 Speaker 1: with a you know, topping compound or drywall mud, something 477 00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:26,120 Speaker 1: along those lines. So you know, there's there's a few 478 00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:29,600 Speaker 1: things you could do right there. There's new types of covering. 479 00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:33,120 Speaker 1: You've probably even seen commercials. It's almost like a for 480 00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:38,840 Speaker 1: Michael wall panel, and I'm seeing some of that being used, 481 00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:43,960 Speaker 1: especially in in closets and things like that. That could 482 00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:47,880 Speaker 1: be actually installed over the paneling too. So you're either 483 00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:49,600 Speaker 1: going to cover it up or tear down and put 484 00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:50,320 Speaker 1: drywall up. 485 00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:54,400 Speaker 5: Well, the thing is with selling it, I really don't 486 00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:58,560 Speaker 5: want to put a fortune into it. So the one 487 00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:01,920 Speaker 5: real estate lady said, fill in the lines with some 488 00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:05,080 Speaker 5: kind of a product and then just paint it. But 489 00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:09,560 Speaker 5: I don't, I don't remember what, So that. 490 00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:14,120 Speaker 1: Yeap, so that you can. That would be similar if 491 00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:16,560 Speaker 1: I was saying when I was talking about the wall covering, 492 00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:23,240 Speaker 1: So those salt cuts, that's those lines. First of all, 493 00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:25,440 Speaker 1: they would have to be primed, so you would use 494 00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:29,560 Speaker 1: like a Kills primer and you would paint those lines, 495 00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:35,240 Speaker 1: and then you would use like a dry wall topping 496 00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:40,840 Speaker 1: compound and you would fill those lines with that like 497 00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:44,320 Speaker 1: a plaster if you will, okay, and you can even 498 00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:47,880 Speaker 1: you can even get that where it dries. It actually 499 00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:52,360 Speaker 1: cures in like forty five minutes, okay. And then after 500 00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:55,680 Speaker 1: it dries, you know, lightly sand and then you would 501 00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:58,920 Speaker 1: prime that and you really would prime everything. Then you'd 502 00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:04,240 Speaker 1: prime over the popping compound, you would prime the paneling, 503 00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:07,360 Speaker 1: and then you would put a finished coat of paint 504 00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:10,560 Speaker 1: over the whole wall. And basically your your purpose there 505 00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:11,880 Speaker 1: is to just make it smooth. 506 00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:16,720 Speaker 5: So which would be the simplest. 507 00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:19,920 Speaker 1: The simplest is to just paint it and leave the lines. 508 00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:24,520 Speaker 1: It will still look like paneling. The next step would 509 00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:28,320 Speaker 1: probably the less expensive and the simplest, would probably get 510 00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:30,600 Speaker 1: a painter in there and just have him fill the 511 00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:34,680 Speaker 1: saw cuts, you know, primate, fill the saw cuts, prime, and. 512 00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:42,520 Speaker 5: Paint okay, and irregular painter would this type of job? 513 00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:48,200 Speaker 1: Sure, sure, sure, okay. But and then your next step, 514 00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:51,840 Speaker 1: your next easiest step, would be a wall liner. So 515 00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:55,080 Speaker 1: when you start talking to a painter, you know he's 516 00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:58,320 Speaker 1: probably going to give you some options too, So talk 517 00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:02,120 Speaker 1: to him about filling the all cuts, priming, and painting 518 00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:05,840 Speaker 1: that you want that paneling to look like a smooth, 519 00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:09,520 Speaker 1: paintable wall. How close can you come to that? Love, 520 00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:12,160 Speaker 1: It depends on the type of paneling and everything else, 521 00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:14,680 Speaker 1: but it can be done. It was something that was 522 00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:16,880 Speaker 1: done a lot to you know, ten fifteen years ago, 523 00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:21,120 Speaker 1: quite honestly, just when people started lightening the rooms up 524 00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:23,840 Speaker 1: a little bit. But eh, get yourself a good painter 525 00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:26,000 Speaker 1: and have a discussion with them, and I think you'll 526 00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:27,080 Speaker 1: come up with a solution. 527 00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:30,280 Speaker 5: All right, thanks so much. 528 00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:34,000 Speaker 1: You're quite welcome, Betty. Thank you, Lisa. You'll be up next. 529 00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:35,680 Speaker 1: We're going to take a break. If you'd like to 530 00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:38,640 Speaker 1: join us, love to have you it's eight hundred eight 531 00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:42,280 Speaker 1: two three eight two five five. You're at home with 532 00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:43,080 Speaker 1: Gary Sullivan. 533 00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:46,400 Speaker 2: Help for your home is just a click away at 534 00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:51,200 Speaker 2: Garysullivan online dot com. 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I've learned so 579 00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:46,880 Speaker 6: much get great advice from areas I'm not currently working on. 580 00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:50,239 Speaker 6: It's great advice, nonetheless, so thank you for all you've 581 00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:51,680 Speaker 6: done for these many years. 582 00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:54,719 Speaker 1: I appreciate that. Thank you. 583 00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:55,320 Speaker 7: You're welcome. 584 00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:57,680 Speaker 6: You got a question for you, Gary, all right, do 585 00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:02,440 Speaker 6: you have a remedy for moving turmerg stains from a 586 00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:05,960 Speaker 6: porcelain bathtub? And they gave you a little bit a time. 587 00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:10,360 Speaker 6: Let me tell you what I tried already. I tried vinegar, baking, 588 00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:15,520 Speaker 6: sod of lemon, juice, hydrogen peroxide, cream of tartar and butter. 589 00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:19,239 Speaker 1: And what are we trying to remove? I missed what 590 00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:20,240 Speaker 1: we were trying to remove. 591 00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:25,239 Speaker 6: That's no worries. Turmerg stains from a porsa, a glossy 592 00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:27,480 Speaker 6: finished porcelain bathtub. 593 00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:33,759 Speaker 1: Hmm, well, I'll tell you what. My number one go 594 00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:37,080 Speaker 1: to stain remover is now off porcelain. You've probably heard 595 00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:40,200 Speaker 1: me talk about it as a Jaws product called the 596 00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:46,440 Speaker 1: Cream Cleanser. Yes, I heard you speak about that to me. 597 00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:51,239 Speaker 1: That's about the that's that so far, it's been my 598 00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:54,960 Speaker 1: go to uh uh thing. The other the other thing 599 00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:57,600 Speaker 1: I used to use a lot would be it's an 600 00:36:57,600 --> 00:36:59,839 Speaker 1: oxalic base, and it's a product you got in your 601 00:36:59,840 --> 00:37:03,880 Speaker 1: home and probably is barkeeper's friend. It's a it's a 602 00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:08,080 Speaker 1: good porcelain cleaner, good stainless steel cleaner. And I've used 603 00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:13,279 Speaker 1: that many, many times. The cream cleanser has outperformed that. 604 00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:17,160 Speaker 1: But if you got some barkeeper's friend, you might want 605 00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:17,719 Speaker 1: to try that. 606 00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:22,920 Speaker 6: Okay, I don't have barkeeper's friend. Yeah, I'm trying to. 607 00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:25,440 Speaker 6: It's barkeeper's friends, you know. If it has like the 608 00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:28,280 Speaker 6: extra ingredients, I try to stay away from the chemicals 609 00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:29,280 Speaker 6: as much as I can. 610 00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:34,520 Speaker 1: Well, it's oxolic acid, but it's a powder. It's not 611 00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:38,080 Speaker 1: a strong acid by any stretch of the imagination. It 612 00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:44,520 Speaker 1: doesn't have an odor. The cream cleanser doesn't really have 613 00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:48,719 Speaker 1: an odor either. It's not a real strong odor like 614 00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:53,479 Speaker 1: you'd do if you had bleach or something, right, right, Yeah, 615 00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:55,160 Speaker 1: I really. 616 00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:56,440 Speaker 6: Didn't want to go to the bleach route. 617 00:37:56,520 --> 00:37:58,440 Speaker 7: I mean that the odor. 618 00:37:58,160 --> 00:38:00,680 Speaker 6: And I read where it can be much a finish, 619 00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:02,960 Speaker 6: so I thought, I don't want to do anything that nature. 620 00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:07,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, I got Well, if it's porcelain, neither one of 621 00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:10,280 Speaker 1: those two products, and you probably get a little can 622 00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:13,520 Speaker 1: of Barkeeper's Friend for two or three bucks, So if 623 00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:15,959 Speaker 1: you want to try that first, it's it's really uh, 624 00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:19,400 Speaker 1: you know, all round good cleaner been around for probably 625 00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:23,800 Speaker 1: one hundred years, but for stainless sinks and porcelain tubs 626 00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:25,960 Speaker 1: and toilets, it does a pretty good job. I mean 627 00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:28,600 Speaker 1: I've used it on all kinds of things over the years. 628 00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:32,400 Speaker 1: And the cream cleanser, like I said, that's kind of 629 00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:35,640 Speaker 1: my new go to. I think it's a little stronger. 630 00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:39,839 Speaker 1: I don't know what's in it, but does a good 631 00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:44,400 Speaker 1: job even on a glass I got halogen stovetop with 632 00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:47,640 Speaker 1: a glass and there's sometimes food or you know, when 633 00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:50,160 Speaker 1: the pot boils over, you get that stain on that 634 00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:55,759 Speaker 1: glass top. Very difficult to remove, and that that cream cleanser. Man, 635 00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:58,399 Speaker 1: it makes quick work out of it, So I'm kind 636 00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:01,200 Speaker 1: of kind of sold on that particular one right now. 637 00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:06,440 Speaker 6: Okay, perfect, okay, let me go get those two products 638 00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:07,240 Speaker 6: and give it a shot. 639 00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:13,400 Speaker 1: All right, Lisa, thank you, take care all right? Patrick, welcome, 640 00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:17,920 Speaker 1: Hey Gary, how you doing doing great? Thanks? 641 00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:20,919 Speaker 7: Yeah, I just had a little note for the lady 642 00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:23,720 Speaker 7: who has had the issue with the painting of the paneling. 643 00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:26,960 Speaker 7: We just did that at my grandmother's house. And what 644 00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:30,280 Speaker 7: we ended up doing was we were having trouble getting 645 00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:33,960 Speaker 7: the paint to stick in the cut areas, you know, 646 00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:36,080 Speaker 7: where it's kind of rough in the lines, right, So 647 00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:38,759 Speaker 7: we ended up going with aerosol kills to get that 648 00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:42,360 Speaker 7: and that helped tremendously. It's saved so much time. And 649 00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:44,799 Speaker 7: you know, because it's just getting that paint into that 650 00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:47,680 Speaker 7: rough area and getting covered, it's such a pain in 651 00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:48,040 Speaker 7: the button. 652 00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:49,440 Speaker 1: Oh, you just take it till. 653 00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:51,560 Speaker 7: We just took the kills and just spray all the 654 00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:54,160 Speaker 7: lines out and cut and rolled everything. And the ways 655 00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:57,279 Speaker 7: hers was set up, it was like the bottom half 656 00:39:57,320 --> 00:39:59,120 Speaker 7: of the wall, or like the bottom of the third 657 00:39:59,160 --> 00:40:02,120 Speaker 7: of the wall was the panel with a bolding around, right. 658 00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:05,520 Speaker 7: We painted that white with white semigloss and then put 659 00:40:05,560 --> 00:40:06,920 Speaker 7: the wall color. It was like a you know, a 660 00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:09,560 Speaker 7: contractor base, and it made it pop so good and 661 00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:12,719 Speaker 7: oh yeah, good so and you know, the real or 662 00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:14,839 Speaker 7: was like, you know what, We're really glad we didn't 663 00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:17,640 Speaker 7: end up ripping it all down and do and draw 664 00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:19,360 Speaker 7: all over the whole thing because it just added a character. 665 00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:22,480 Speaker 1: Like, well, I was just getting ready a friend of mine, 666 00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:26,919 Speaker 1: he's got gosh, it's almost like a four seasons room, 667 00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:30,080 Speaker 1: but it is not. It's how it's part of the house, 668 00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:33,640 Speaker 1: and he's got the older windows. And then underneath the 669 00:40:33,719 --> 00:40:37,480 Speaker 1: chair rail he had that panting paneling and he did 670 00:40:37,560 --> 00:40:41,120 Speaker 1: the same thing. He painted that out. And I was 671 00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:43,560 Speaker 1: going to use the word character too. I mean, you 672 00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:46,719 Speaker 1: can still kind of tell it was paneling, but it 673 00:40:46,840 --> 00:40:49,560 Speaker 1: looked cool and it really kind of matched the house. 674 00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:53,160 Speaker 1: When I haven't done it for a long time, it's 675 00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:57,319 Speaker 1: probably been twenty years. I used to use the not 676 00:40:57,480 --> 00:41:00,560 Speaker 1: that kills total one, but I would use the actual 677 00:41:01,480 --> 00:41:05,640 Speaker 1: original kills with a brush and me and it would 678 00:41:05,719 --> 00:41:08,319 Speaker 1: be that that that saw cut at least the ones 679 00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:11,359 Speaker 1: I were doing. It just sucked that in. I mean, 680 00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:15,160 Speaker 1: I didn't have trouble with it not sticking. I was like, 681 00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:17,279 Speaker 1: sometimes you have to put a second coat on it. 682 00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:19,480 Speaker 1: But I like the idea of spring and I think 683 00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:22,160 Speaker 1: that could be a big time time saver. I've never 684 00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:24,520 Speaker 1: even really thought of that, so that's a good take. 685 00:41:24,680 --> 00:41:24,839 Speaker 4: Well. 686 00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:27,400 Speaker 7: And also if you you know, if they get into 687 00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:31,040 Speaker 7: you know, trying to put drawa over it or trying 688 00:41:31,080 --> 00:41:33,640 Speaker 7: to you know, spackle all those lines, you're looking at 689 00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:35,919 Speaker 7: a lot of prep. I mean, that's going. 690 00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:38,040 Speaker 3: To be a very expensive job, and I. 691 00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:40,879 Speaker 7: Think that they would probably be pleased, especially if they're 692 00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:43,839 Speaker 7: just selling it just to paint it. Man, I would 693 00:41:44,120 --> 00:41:47,680 Speaker 7: highly recommend this because having done drawwall work in the past, 694 00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:51,080 Speaker 7: you know, it's that you've got a lot of opportunity 695 00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:52,960 Speaker 7: for a lot of divots and a lot of a 696 00:41:53,080 --> 00:41:55,839 Speaker 7: lot of bad looking wall if you go thero out 697 00:41:55,880 --> 00:41:57,000 Speaker 7: of trying to spackle all that. 698 00:41:57,320 --> 00:42:01,839 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, well that's true. And even you know, sometimes 699 00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:05,920 Speaker 1: even using not a good quality paint can get you 700 00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:09,160 Speaker 1: in trouble over over paneling too, if there's a lot 701 00:42:09,160 --> 00:42:11,440 Speaker 1: of flux of that paneling and there is unsown. 702 00:42:11,640 --> 00:42:15,560 Speaker 7: Oh yeah, the prep prep. 703 00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:19,239 Speaker 1: Key, no doubt. And you know, one of the things, man, 704 00:42:19,640 --> 00:42:22,359 Speaker 1: did you wash that paneling down or anything along those 705 00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:23,239 Speaker 1: lines before you. 706 00:42:23,239 --> 00:42:25,960 Speaker 7: Did, or yeah, we use that thing it's called. 707 00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:29,279 Speaker 1: Yeah good good. I didn't even talk to her about that. 708 00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:31,080 Speaker 1: I knew she was going to get a painter in there, 709 00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:33,440 Speaker 1: and I'm sure they would do that. But a lot 710 00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:35,800 Speaker 1: of times back in that day, when that paneling was 711 00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:40,840 Speaker 1: big boy, people would use pledge and uh Murphy's oil soap, 712 00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:44,720 Speaker 1: and there is an oil component to that and without 713 00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:49,200 Speaker 1: getting that off that can that can be problem for paint. 714 00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:57,200 Speaker 7: Uh yeah, I think we used that trossodium phosphate powder. Yeah, yep, Yeah. 715 00:42:57,280 --> 00:42:59,799 Speaker 7: My grandfather had some in his shop and I was like, 716 00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:01,400 Speaker 7: I'll look it up. I was like, well, we're just 717 00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:03,680 Speaker 7: going to be paying over it to strip it all 718 00:43:03,719 --> 00:43:04,120 Speaker 7: down and it. 719 00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:07,879 Speaker 1: Did it job very good. 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