1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:10,559 Speaker 1: The exit one oh five nine. 2 00:00:07,080 --> 00:00:08,879 Speaker 2: It's time not to talk to Paul's iis to post 3 00:00:08,880 --> 00:00:11,479 Speaker 2: because that Paul, what's your take on the Steelers doing 4 00:00:11,560 --> 00:00:13,880 Speaker 2: nothing at the trade deadline yesterday? 5 00:00:13,880 --> 00:00:16,000 Speaker 3: I thought they should have. I'm not shocked they didn't. 6 00:00:17,640 --> 00:00:19,440 Speaker 4: Well, I mean, I think the biggest thing is they 7 00:00:19,480 --> 00:00:22,759 Speaker 4: need a receiver. And to me, you know, I've heard 8 00:00:22,800 --> 00:00:25,840 Speaker 4: all of these rationalizations as to why they didn't do it, 9 00:00:25,880 --> 00:00:26,920 Speaker 4: but it makes no sense. 10 00:00:27,280 --> 00:00:28,280 Speaker 1: At the end of the day. 11 00:00:28,640 --> 00:00:31,200 Speaker 4: You've got a forty two year old quarterback who's pretty good, 12 00:00:31,760 --> 00:00:34,280 Speaker 4: You've got a defense that looks like they can become 13 00:00:34,360 --> 00:00:37,919 Speaker 4: pretty opportunistic, and you've got to do you know, and 14 00:00:37,960 --> 00:00:40,200 Speaker 4: maybe even be good enough to win some playoff games 15 00:00:40,200 --> 00:00:41,720 Speaker 4: if they play like they did the other day. 16 00:00:42,520 --> 00:00:43,199 Speaker 1: Why would you. 17 00:00:43,240 --> 00:00:45,800 Speaker 4: Not give yourself the best chance to win. I've read 18 00:00:45,840 --> 00:00:48,920 Speaker 4: all of the rationalizations from what I would call the 19 00:00:49,200 --> 00:00:53,280 Speaker 4: uh teflon Tomlin friends in the media, you know, uh 20 00:00:53,360 --> 00:00:56,240 Speaker 4: and and and it's incredible to me how all of 21 00:00:56,320 --> 00:00:59,880 Speaker 4: a sudden, this is the rebuilding team. They're not all in, 22 00:01:00,600 --> 00:01:04,360 Speaker 4: they're not trying to win, they're not well I'm sorry, 23 00:01:04,360 --> 00:01:08,160 Speaker 4: but that's nonsense. You can be a rebuilding team. You 24 00:01:08,200 --> 00:01:10,880 Speaker 4: can have draft picks, you can have all that stuff 25 00:01:10,920 --> 00:01:14,280 Speaker 4: that you need, and guess what, you can also trade 26 00:01:14,319 --> 00:01:16,240 Speaker 4: a couple of those guys to make yourself a little 27 00:01:16,240 --> 00:01:18,120 Speaker 4: bit better if you think you have a team that 28 00:01:18,319 --> 00:01:20,119 Speaker 4: might be able to take a shot. I'm not saying 29 00:01:20,120 --> 00:01:24,080 Speaker 4: that mark that they are a super Bowl contender, but 30 00:01:24,160 --> 00:01:26,800 Speaker 4: I think that you have to give yourself the best 31 00:01:26,840 --> 00:01:29,480 Speaker 4: chance to take a shot if you've got a team 32 00:01:29,560 --> 00:01:31,560 Speaker 4: full of you know, thirty somethings, which is. 33 00:01:31,560 --> 00:01:32,080 Speaker 1: What they do. 34 00:01:32,720 --> 00:01:35,000 Speaker 2: Oh no, no question. And I'm hearing the same things 35 00:01:35,040 --> 00:01:37,720 Speaker 2: you are. I'm here, and they never said they're all in. 36 00:01:37,760 --> 00:01:39,440 Speaker 2: But when you have a roster as old as theirs, 37 00:01:39,720 --> 00:01:41,919 Speaker 2: and you made the moves they did this past offseason, 38 00:01:42,600 --> 00:01:44,720 Speaker 2: you are all in, whether you verbalize that or not. 39 00:01:44,920 --> 00:01:47,480 Speaker 2: And you know, even all in to win a playoff 40 00:01:47,520 --> 00:01:49,520 Speaker 2: game is where they're at because they haven't done so 41 00:01:49,600 --> 00:01:50,320 Speaker 2: for seven years. 42 00:01:50,320 --> 00:01:52,640 Speaker 3: But all in is all in. 43 00:01:53,240 --> 00:01:56,040 Speaker 2: And I would have traded the two first round picks 44 00:01:56,080 --> 00:01:59,040 Speaker 2: for Sauce Gardner, but let's forget about that because they 45 00:01:59,080 --> 00:02:02,000 Speaker 2: just weren't. But I would have definitely up the bid 46 00:02:02,320 --> 00:02:05,600 Speaker 2: the Jacksonville got the Jacksonville gave to Vegas to get 47 00:02:05,640 --> 00:02:07,960 Speaker 2: Jakobe Myers, because not only do they need a number 48 00:02:07,960 --> 00:02:11,320 Speaker 2: two receiver Paul, but if they lose Dk, their season's over. 49 00:02:11,680 --> 00:02:13,040 Speaker 3: They have no one who can step up. 50 00:02:13,240 --> 00:02:16,320 Speaker 2: I'm not saying Myers is an equal, but he could 51 00:02:16,560 --> 00:02:18,160 Speaker 2: maybe suffice. 52 00:02:19,919 --> 00:02:23,639 Speaker 4: Well. I mean, I think the biggest thing about it is, uh, 53 00:02:23,919 --> 00:02:28,080 Speaker 4: You've got a guy in uh DK Metcalf that you 54 00:02:28,120 --> 00:02:33,720 Speaker 4: invest thirty million million dollars. If you think about it, 55 00:02:33,800 --> 00:02:37,000 Speaker 4: thirty million dollars is what you gave this guy. And 56 00:02:37,040 --> 00:02:39,360 Speaker 4: you had four targets for him the other day and 57 00:02:39,360 --> 00:02:42,000 Speaker 4: he got two catchers for six yards. I mean and 58 00:02:42,320 --> 00:02:46,239 Speaker 4: written mostly because the other teams that you're playing, they 59 00:02:46,360 --> 00:02:49,880 Speaker 4: don't have to really respect, you know, anybody else that 60 00:02:49,960 --> 00:02:52,600 Speaker 4: you have. It's great that you've got four tight ends 61 00:02:52,720 --> 00:02:54,720 Speaker 4: or whatever it is, and you and you're you know 62 00:02:54,800 --> 00:02:56,839 Speaker 4: you you you love throwing the ball to them because 63 00:02:56,880 --> 00:03:00,280 Speaker 4: your offensive coordinator, you know, that's his thing. That guess 64 00:03:00,320 --> 00:03:03,480 Speaker 4: what I mean. I know that Patrick Pat McAfee are 65 00:03:03,520 --> 00:03:04,120 Speaker 4: on McAfee. 66 00:03:04,160 --> 00:03:04,639 Speaker 1: I'm sorry. 67 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:08,480 Speaker 4: Pat farm Youth had that play two years two weeks 68 00:03:08,520 --> 00:03:11,040 Speaker 4: ago where he you know, he got behind the defense. 69 00:03:11,080 --> 00:03:13,000 Speaker 4: It was a broken coverage. But for the most part, 70 00:03:13,360 --> 00:03:16,480 Speaker 4: if you throw the ball to Donell Washington at eight yards, 71 00:03:16,720 --> 00:03:18,960 Speaker 4: he's gonna get tackled at eight and a half yards. 72 00:03:19,080 --> 00:03:21,360 Speaker 4: If you throw it to Jonus Smith at eight yards, 73 00:03:21,480 --> 00:03:23,520 Speaker 4: he's gonna get tackled at eight and a half yards. 74 00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:25,600 Speaker 4: If you throw up to Farmuth the corner, Hey, what's 75 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:29,360 Speaker 4: same thing. Those guys scared nobody and so to me 76 00:03:29,800 --> 00:03:32,120 Speaker 4: and Calvin Austin is just sort of a ham and ager. 77 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:34,920 Speaker 4: If he's your third or fourth receiver, then you're probably, 78 00:03:34,960 --> 00:03:37,240 Speaker 4: you know, in a pretty good place. The fact that 79 00:03:37,280 --> 00:03:39,400 Speaker 4: they're trying to force him to be their second receiver 80 00:03:39,560 --> 00:03:42,760 Speaker 4: tells me that they're not serious people when it comes 81 00:03:42,800 --> 00:03:45,160 Speaker 4: to we've got a team that we think we've got 82 00:03:45,200 --> 00:03:47,720 Speaker 4: a lot of pieces in place, why don't we take 83 00:03:47,760 --> 00:03:51,840 Speaker 4: a shot and make the second receiver position something that 84 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:54,920 Speaker 4: other teams have to respect. Right now, they don't have 85 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:55,640 Speaker 4: to respect it. 86 00:03:56,040 --> 00:03:58,440 Speaker 2: What's your take on the defensive performance against the Colts, 87 00:03:58,440 --> 00:04:00,920 Speaker 2: which I thought was great, I mean of five sacks, 88 00:04:01,160 --> 00:04:04,480 Speaker 2: six takeaways, But Ben Roethlisberger and this podcast brought up 89 00:04:04,520 --> 00:04:07,320 Speaker 2: a good point in so many words, that it's a 90 00:04:07,360 --> 00:04:09,880 Speaker 2: slippery slope when you have to rely on that to win, 91 00:04:10,240 --> 00:04:13,360 Speaker 2: and pointed out I think that against Green Bay, no sacks, 92 00:04:13,360 --> 00:04:15,160 Speaker 2: no turnovers, they lose. 93 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:19,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I think that's part of what the 94 00:04:19,040 --> 00:04:21,920 Speaker 4: Steelers defense is gonna be this year though, Mark, And 95 00:04:22,080 --> 00:04:24,599 Speaker 4: you know what, you know, it's probably not sustainable week 96 00:04:24,640 --> 00:04:26,960 Speaker 4: after week after week. But if you get into the 97 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:29,800 Speaker 4: playoff situation and you have a couple of weeks where 98 00:04:30,120 --> 00:04:33,040 Speaker 4: your stars are playing like stars, now all of a sudden, 99 00:04:33,080 --> 00:04:35,040 Speaker 4: you've got a chance to maybe win some games. I mean, 100 00:04:35,080 --> 00:04:37,320 Speaker 4: I don't think they're ever gonna be a defense right 101 00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:40,880 Speaker 4: now as constituted. They have too many holes where if 102 00:04:40,880 --> 00:04:43,960 Speaker 4: they don't get those high impact plays, they probably I 103 00:04:43,960 --> 00:04:45,720 Speaker 4: mean teams are probably gonna move them. I mean, listen, 104 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:48,239 Speaker 4: the Colts said, what three are sixty three and seventy 105 00:04:48,279 --> 00:04:50,960 Speaker 4: yards against them? It isn't like they shut the Colts down. 106 00:04:51,279 --> 00:04:53,719 Speaker 4: They were just able to stop drives a big plays. 107 00:04:54,040 --> 00:04:56,040 Speaker 4: And I think that's their MO. I mean, I think 108 00:04:56,080 --> 00:04:58,640 Speaker 4: that's if you look at their defense, that's sort of 109 00:04:58,640 --> 00:05:02,400 Speaker 4: their MO. I don't think secondary is great, you know, 110 00:05:02,480 --> 00:05:06,960 Speaker 4: I think they're They're linebacking group, especially the inside linebackers 111 00:05:07,440 --> 00:05:10,400 Speaker 4: against the run are just kind of okay. But they 112 00:05:10,400 --> 00:05:12,680 Speaker 4: can all make big plays and if they're making up 113 00:05:12,720 --> 00:05:15,120 Speaker 4: big plays. They can be really good. I just think 114 00:05:15,200 --> 00:05:17,800 Speaker 4: it's end realistic to believe that this is gonna be 115 00:05:17,839 --> 00:05:21,240 Speaker 4: a defense like you know they had and from say 116 00:05:21,320 --> 00:05:24,159 Speaker 4: like two thousand, you know three to say two thousand 117 00:05:24,160 --> 00:05:28,280 Speaker 4: and nine, where they basically, you know, made you cry 118 00:05:28,640 --> 00:05:29,160 Speaker 4: to try and. 119 00:05:29,120 --> 00:05:30,000 Speaker 1: Get five yards. 120 00:05:30,200 --> 00:05:32,359 Speaker 4: That's not just kind of defense. This defense is not 121 00:05:32,480 --> 00:05:35,440 Speaker 4: that defense where they can consistently weak in and weak 122 00:05:35,480 --> 00:05:38,000 Speaker 4: out make it really difficult on you to get four 123 00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:41,159 Speaker 4: or five yards. What they can do, however, is make 124 00:05:41,200 --> 00:05:44,240 Speaker 4: big plays. So if their stars show up, then their 125 00:05:44,240 --> 00:05:46,320 Speaker 4: defense is gonna be okay. If the stars don't show 126 00:05:46,360 --> 00:05:48,960 Speaker 4: up this week, have probably a lot like the Green 127 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:51,599 Speaker 4: Bay game, where you know, where the Chargers kind of 128 00:05:51,600 --> 00:05:53,000 Speaker 4: go up and down the field against them. 129 00:05:53,160 --> 00:05:55,680 Speaker 2: No, I agree with all that. I dis agree with 130 00:05:55,760 --> 00:05:57,599 Speaker 2: Ben too that it's a slippery slope. I mean, they 131 00:05:57,680 --> 00:06:00,919 Speaker 2: got the six turnovers and only won by seven, and 132 00:06:00,960 --> 00:06:02,880 Speaker 2: there is a trend if they don't get turnovers, they 133 00:06:02,960 --> 00:06:04,000 Speaker 2: just don't win. 134 00:06:04,279 --> 00:06:04,400 Speaker 1: Uh. 135 00:06:04,760 --> 00:06:07,520 Speaker 2: What's your take on Ramsey moving to safety and the 136 00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:11,120 Speaker 2: acquisition to Dugger. They were tandem back there against the Colts, 137 00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:13,280 Speaker 2: and I guess they're gonna play there in La this 138 00:06:13,360 --> 00:06:15,840 Speaker 2: week and I just leave Ramsey at safety period. 139 00:06:15,839 --> 00:06:16,360 Speaker 3: How about you? 140 00:06:17,560 --> 00:06:19,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, I would agree with that. You know one thing 141 00:06:19,320 --> 00:06:21,480 Speaker 4: I would say Mark about that. You know what your 142 00:06:21,480 --> 00:06:24,400 Speaker 4: one of your last statements there. If the Colts got 143 00:06:24,480 --> 00:06:26,960 Speaker 4: six turnovers, how many points would they had on the board. 144 00:06:27,400 --> 00:06:29,080 Speaker 4: You know, that's what that's the difference. I think if 145 00:06:29,080 --> 00:06:32,000 Speaker 4: the Colts Scott six turnovers their way, it probably had 146 00:06:32,080 --> 00:06:35,120 Speaker 4: been fifty plus points. And so, I mean, part of 147 00:06:35,160 --> 00:06:37,560 Speaker 4: the problem with the Steelers offense is, hey, it's a 148 00:06:37,560 --> 00:06:40,280 Speaker 4: little too conservative still because of the head coach and 149 00:06:40,360 --> 00:06:42,880 Speaker 4: the and the offensive coordinator. But also I just don't 150 00:06:42,960 --> 00:06:44,599 Speaker 4: know that there's that much firepower now. 151 00:06:45,040 --> 00:06:45,920 Speaker 3: Ramsey to me. 152 00:06:46,760 --> 00:06:50,920 Speaker 4: Is obviously a really, really, really good safety. The only 153 00:06:50,960 --> 00:06:54,719 Speaker 4: thing I worry about is if he's playing safety, you've 154 00:06:54,760 --> 00:06:57,880 Speaker 4: got Joey Porter Junior probably missed cast as the number 155 00:06:57,880 --> 00:07:01,479 Speaker 4: one corner, and whoever gonna put out there, Pierre or 156 00:07:01,480 --> 00:07:03,360 Speaker 4: whoever it else you're gonna put out there. 157 00:07:03,240 --> 00:07:07,360 Speaker 2: As done pretty good. Eckles has done pretty good, right, 158 00:07:07,400 --> 00:07:09,279 Speaker 2: But my thing with Porter is to kind of jump 159 00:07:09,320 --> 00:07:12,000 Speaker 2: ahead to that. I thought he did pretty good against 160 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:14,400 Speaker 2: the Colts because they used him in press man, which 161 00:07:14,480 --> 00:07:17,480 Speaker 2: is his strength. I would keep him in pressman and 162 00:07:17,560 --> 00:07:19,120 Speaker 2: just live with the occasional flag. 163 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:22,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I think that's where he plays well. 164 00:07:22,960 --> 00:07:25,920 Speaker 4: But my point is if you take Ramsey out of 165 00:07:25,960 --> 00:07:29,240 Speaker 4: the equation, you know, I just feel like, if if 166 00:07:29,280 --> 00:07:32,640 Speaker 4: the front seven isn't getting home against the quarterback, I 167 00:07:32,920 --> 00:07:35,520 Speaker 4: don't know that your secondary's gonna be good enough. I 168 00:07:35,560 --> 00:07:37,800 Speaker 4: just don't know your corners are quite good enough. 169 00:07:38,400 --> 00:07:38,520 Speaker 5: Now. 170 00:07:38,560 --> 00:07:41,000 Speaker 4: I guess the charges it won't matter that much because 171 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:44,040 Speaker 4: I don't know that they've got great receivers. Keenan Allen 172 00:07:44,120 --> 00:07:46,560 Speaker 4: is what he is. But the reality to me is 173 00:07:46,960 --> 00:07:49,520 Speaker 4: if you look at uh, you know they have to 174 00:07:49,560 --> 00:07:51,320 Speaker 4: get into a game where they're playing against some of 175 00:07:51,320 --> 00:07:54,400 Speaker 4: the better teams for the better quarterbacks. I mean, I 176 00:07:54,400 --> 00:07:58,720 Speaker 4: think obviously Jalen Ramsey is really good as your safety, 177 00:07:59,240 --> 00:08:03,280 Speaker 4: but you know it is your corner position good enough. 178 00:08:03,440 --> 00:08:04,960 Speaker 4: That's that's the only question I have. 179 00:08:05,080 --> 00:08:06,800 Speaker 2: Mark, Yeah, you got to roll the dice one way 180 00:08:06,880 --> 00:08:08,720 Speaker 2: or the other. And I think Ramsey is better at 181 00:08:08,760 --> 00:08:11,800 Speaker 2: safety at this point in the corner, so that would 182 00:08:11,800 --> 00:08:12,920 Speaker 2: be the direction I'd go in. 183 00:08:13,480 --> 00:08:16,080 Speaker 3: I got to give Tom Win and Austin credit. 184 00:08:16,360 --> 00:08:18,960 Speaker 2: I love how they juggle the front seven against Indy 185 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:21,520 Speaker 2: with that four to three look. You know, they sometimes 186 00:08:21,600 --> 00:08:24,760 Speaker 2: use three inside backers, sometimes three edge guys, and I 187 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:27,600 Speaker 2: think Watt, Peyton, Wilson, Heinsmith all had their best games 188 00:08:27,600 --> 00:08:28,040 Speaker 2: of the year. 189 00:08:28,360 --> 00:08:30,480 Speaker 3: So I hope they keep doing that. 190 00:08:30,560 --> 00:08:34,760 Speaker 2: I hope they don't retreat to what's safe. 191 00:08:35,760 --> 00:08:40,040 Speaker 4: Well, that's the question. There's a million dollar question mark. 192 00:08:40,920 --> 00:08:44,560 Speaker 4: Are they going to revert back to the same things 193 00:08:44,600 --> 00:08:47,720 Speaker 4: that they've done in the past, which you've heard, you know, 194 00:08:47,920 --> 00:08:51,320 Speaker 4: multiple people talk about how predictable they are, how easy 195 00:08:51,360 --> 00:08:53,560 Speaker 4: they are to dice, act, how easy they are to 196 00:08:53,679 --> 00:08:55,960 Speaker 4: understand what they're doing. I think one of the things 197 00:08:55,960 --> 00:08:57,719 Speaker 4: they did in this game that they haven't done I 198 00:08:57,760 --> 00:09:02,000 Speaker 4: don't know in lot forever maybe is they basically played 199 00:09:02,040 --> 00:09:04,960 Speaker 4: a lot of nickel defense and stuff on first down 200 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:08,480 Speaker 4: and second down. They were willing to basically say, we're 201 00:09:08,520 --> 00:09:11,679 Speaker 4: gonna mix up our looks, we're gonna do things differently, 202 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:14,040 Speaker 4: and we're gonna, you know, we're a roll of dice 203 00:09:14,559 --> 00:09:17,160 Speaker 4: and basically think that we can stop your running game 204 00:09:17,480 --> 00:09:19,960 Speaker 4: depending no matter what look we're in. And I thought 205 00:09:19,960 --> 00:09:22,440 Speaker 4: that was probably a big reason why they had so 206 00:09:22,520 --> 00:09:23,719 Speaker 4: much success. 207 00:09:24,520 --> 00:09:27,800 Speaker 2: Uh, what's your take on the LA game? LA's having 208 00:09:27,840 --> 00:09:29,880 Speaker 2: some trouble with tackles, some injuries. They went out and 209 00:09:29,880 --> 00:09:34,880 Speaker 2: got somebody though. But despite Herbert's excellence, which is fraught 210 00:09:34,880 --> 00:09:38,400 Speaker 2: with inconsistency, it seems like a game the Steelers could win, 211 00:09:38,760 --> 00:09:40,640 Speaker 2: and if they want to prove they were good enough 212 00:09:40,679 --> 00:09:43,040 Speaker 2: to not make a move at the deadline yesterday, to 213 00:09:43,120 --> 00:09:44,200 Speaker 2: my mind, they need to win. 214 00:09:45,640 --> 00:09:47,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I think the artists play player for player, 215 00:09:47,800 --> 00:09:51,120 Speaker 4: they're probably better than the Chargers. The two offensive tackles 216 00:09:51,120 --> 00:09:54,600 Speaker 4: on the Chargers, actually they've lost three tackles, right, you know, 217 00:09:54,720 --> 00:09:57,160 Speaker 4: but but both of their starting tackles and then are 218 00:09:57,200 --> 00:10:00,280 Speaker 4: actually a plus one. 219 00:09:59,400 --> 00:09:59,600 Speaker 1: You know. 220 00:09:59,640 --> 00:10:04,120 Speaker 4: They they don't they don't have a lot of firepower 221 00:10:04,200 --> 00:10:07,240 Speaker 4: on the outside. And so to me, I feel like 222 00:10:07,280 --> 00:10:09,680 Speaker 4: the Steelers should be able to do what they did 223 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:13,040 Speaker 4: against the Colts, and even a better job, which is 224 00:10:13,400 --> 00:10:16,280 Speaker 4: shut down the run, get to Herbert, you know what 225 00:10:16,320 --> 00:10:18,920 Speaker 4: I mean, and make him make bad decisions, because we've 226 00:10:18,960 --> 00:10:21,320 Speaker 4: seen from him. When you get to him and you 227 00:10:21,360 --> 00:10:23,280 Speaker 4: hit him around and knock him around a little bit, 228 00:10:23,600 --> 00:10:25,720 Speaker 4: and you hit him and all that other stuff, you know, 229 00:10:25,840 --> 00:10:28,200 Speaker 4: he's gonna make some bad decisions and throw the ball 230 00:10:28,280 --> 00:10:31,000 Speaker 4: for grabs at times. So to me, like I said, 231 00:10:31,040 --> 00:10:33,480 Speaker 4: I think the most important thing with them is if 232 00:10:33,520 --> 00:10:36,400 Speaker 4: their defense is able to get to Herbert, I thin't 233 00:10:36,440 --> 00:10:38,080 Speaker 4: gin it could be a really long day. 234 00:10:37,960 --> 00:10:38,800 Speaker 1: For the Chargers. 235 00:10:39,760 --> 00:10:42,719 Speaker 4: You know, the defenses. The Chargers defense is okay, it's 236 00:10:42,760 --> 00:10:46,240 Speaker 4: not it's not great, but it's not terrible. The Steelers 237 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:48,120 Speaker 4: to be able to score enough points to win the game. 238 00:10:48,400 --> 00:10:52,560 Speaker 4: But again, if they can't get home to Herbert, he's 239 00:10:52,600 --> 00:10:55,000 Speaker 4: good enough that he could pick them apart, and and 240 00:10:55,000 --> 00:10:57,160 Speaker 4: and and really make it a long day for them. 241 00:10:57,600 --> 00:10:59,080 Speaker 3: Do you know what's what's gonna be funny? 242 00:10:59,080 --> 00:10:59,360 Speaker 1: Paul? 243 00:10:59,480 --> 00:11:01,280 Speaker 3: I think this Deelers are gonna win the division. 244 00:11:01,320 --> 00:11:04,040 Speaker 2: I think this win over Indy has enabled them to 245 00:11:04,080 --> 00:11:07,520 Speaker 2: keep Baltimore arms length and they can kind of bleed 246 00:11:07,559 --> 00:11:09,800 Speaker 2: out the division. And they better because I think only 247 00:11:09,840 --> 00:11:12,719 Speaker 2: one team from the AFC North is gonna make the playoffs. 248 00:11:12,880 --> 00:11:16,319 Speaker 2: But wouldn't it be ironic? That's not the word. Maybe 249 00:11:16,320 --> 00:11:18,840 Speaker 2: funny is the word. If they win the division and 250 00:11:18,960 --> 00:11:22,280 Speaker 2: Buffalo and Kansas City are both wild cards and thereby 251 00:11:22,320 --> 00:11:25,440 Speaker 2: potential opponents, well, I mean. 252 00:11:25,360 --> 00:11:27,719 Speaker 4: There's a good chance that's gonna happen. I mean, that's 253 00:11:27,760 --> 00:11:31,000 Speaker 4: what's funny and they're a pretty good chances that could 254 00:11:31,040 --> 00:11:34,280 Speaker 4: happen where they're hosting you know, Kansas City, and you 255 00:11:34,320 --> 00:11:38,120 Speaker 4: know what, I don't really care, uh, you know who 256 00:11:38,160 --> 00:11:40,520 Speaker 4: they have and the fact they didn't go out and 257 00:11:40,520 --> 00:11:45,440 Speaker 4: they can move. If they host a healthy Kansas City team, 258 00:11:45,760 --> 00:11:48,199 Speaker 4: they're going home in the first round. They're not gonna 259 00:11:48,200 --> 00:11:50,320 Speaker 4: be Patrick Mahomes. They're just not and they're probably not 260 00:11:50,360 --> 00:11:55,720 Speaker 4: gonna be Josh Allen either. And quite frankly, if they have, 261 00:11:56,040 --> 00:11:59,040 Speaker 4: you know, if it's Baltimore, that is like say, they're 262 00:11:59,080 --> 00:12:01,439 Speaker 4: the three things ball, the Moore's the sixth seed, and 263 00:12:01,559 --> 00:12:04,559 Speaker 4: Baltimore's fully healthy. I don't know that they're beating Lamar 264 00:12:04,679 --> 00:12:07,360 Speaker 4: Jackson either. I mean, I think it's really important. 265 00:12:07,760 --> 00:12:08,520 Speaker 1: It was really. 266 00:12:08,400 --> 00:12:11,880 Speaker 4: Important for them to make their offense better because at 267 00:12:11,880 --> 00:12:14,280 Speaker 4: the end of the day, I think their offense is 268 00:12:14,280 --> 00:12:16,920 Speaker 4: gonna have to win games in the playoffs and against 269 00:12:16,960 --> 00:12:19,079 Speaker 4: those three teams. I just don't see how it could happen. 270 00:12:19,679 --> 00:12:21,520 Speaker 3: Paul great stuff, will do it again next week. 271 00:12:21,520 --> 00:12:24,839 Speaker 1: Good job, all right, thanks my man, We'll see you soon. 272 00:12:25,120 --> 00:12:27,160 Speaker 2: That's Paul's Ice, brought to us by eighty four lumber 273 00:12:27,240 --> 00:12:30,559 Speaker 2: Dynasty partner the Pittsburgh Steelers, Phil Bourk Tuckenhawk at the 274 00:12:30,559 --> 00:12:32,280 Speaker 2: bottom of the hour, I'm Mark Madden one O five 275 00:12:32,280 --> 00:12:32,600 Speaker 2: to nine. 276 00:12:33,640 --> 00:12:37,520 Speaker 3: Tomorrow nights, the Pens hit the ice against the Capitols. 277 00:12:37,880 --> 00:12:41,640 Speaker 3: Game time is seven. Our coverage starts at six here 278 00:12:41,720 --> 00:12:44,200 Speaker 3: every game and the best coverage right here on your 279 00:12:44,200 --> 00:12:46,760 Speaker 3: home of the penns five nine d X. 280 00:12:48,400 --> 00:12:51,040 Speaker 2: People are going when you got a young trophy white, 281 00:12:51,240 --> 00:12:54,319 Speaker 2: oh's money to I can't even quote the big o'bowski right, goodbye? 282 00:12:54,480 --> 00:13:01,040 Speaker 3: Hit the X at one five nine. We've got Phill 283 00:13:01,120 --> 00:13:01,719 Speaker 3: bar Cup next. 284 00:13:01,720 --> 00:13:05,400 Speaker 2: We got a lot to talk about. Sergey Morrishoff, the 285 00:13:05,400 --> 00:13:07,360 Speaker 2: goalie of the future, is now the Penguins goalie of 286 00:13:07,400 --> 00:13:09,360 Speaker 2: the President. He joined the team today because of an 287 00:13:09,360 --> 00:13:13,280 Speaker 2: injury to Tristan Jari. Worshoff has been burning it up 288 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:17,280 Speaker 2: in the AHL got the goaltender of the month save 289 00:13:17,360 --> 00:13:21,680 Speaker 2: percentage of ninety three. And the debate I've been waging 290 00:13:21,720 --> 00:13:25,520 Speaker 2: on today's program is, even though it's Shilloffs's turn to 291 00:13:25,600 --> 00:13:31,199 Speaker 2: play tomorrow night, when Washington visits and Muse and dubas, 292 00:13:31,200 --> 00:13:32,960 Speaker 2: they're all about hockey, but you gotta be a little 293 00:13:32,960 --> 00:13:35,080 Speaker 2: bit about show biz. You've gotta be a little bit 294 00:13:35,080 --> 00:13:37,840 Speaker 2: about hype. You've gotta be a little bit about trying 295 00:13:37,880 --> 00:13:40,200 Speaker 2: to sell tickets. You've got to be a little bit 296 00:13:40,240 --> 00:13:44,600 Speaker 2: about having a sense of the occasion. And I turned 297 00:13:44,600 --> 00:13:48,560 Speaker 2: back to two thousand and three, Marc Andre Furry, age eighteen, 298 00:13:49,880 --> 00:13:54,720 Speaker 2: making his first start at the Arena, forty eight saves. 299 00:13:55,000 --> 00:13:59,800 Speaker 2: He lost, but played great, stopped the penalty shot, and 300 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:03,120 Speaker 2: he knew who Mark Flurry was and what he was 301 00:14:03,160 --> 00:14:05,600 Speaker 2: going to do and where the team was headed. I'm 302 00:14:05,600 --> 00:14:08,200 Speaker 2: not saying Morishoff replicates that tomorrow night. In fact, you'd 303 00:14:08,200 --> 00:14:08,720 Speaker 2: like to see. 304 00:14:08,559 --> 00:14:15,320 Speaker 3: Him win, but I'd play him. I would have that 305 00:14:15,400 --> 00:14:16,320 Speaker 3: sense of the occasion. 306 00:14:17,040 --> 00:14:18,840 Speaker 2: You got a lot of empty seats at these games, 307 00:14:18,880 --> 00:14:21,200 Speaker 2: not least on the weeknight. 308 00:14:23,720 --> 00:14:24,160 Speaker 3: Annanci. 309 00:14:24,240 --> 00:14:26,360 Speaker 2: Morishof's gonna play might not sell a lot of tickets, 310 00:14:27,080 --> 00:14:29,360 Speaker 2: but it might make the people who come to witness 311 00:14:29,640 --> 00:14:30,720 Speaker 2: come back after that. 312 00:14:31,240 --> 00:14:34,640 Speaker 3: I know that was the case with Flurry. So to 313 00:14:34,680 --> 00:14:36,160 Speaker 3: be very blunts. 314 00:14:37,200 --> 00:14:40,160 Speaker 2: When you got a team in a market like Pittsburgh, 315 00:14:40,160 --> 00:14:42,800 Speaker 2: which is a bit fair weather for hockey and other sports. 316 00:14:43,720 --> 00:14:46,120 Speaker 2: All those old bastards at the Steeler game, they don't 317 00:14:46,120 --> 00:14:48,360 Speaker 2: know what to do if they're not at acressaw on 318 00:14:48,400 --> 00:14:50,680 Speaker 2: Sunday they just wither and die, some of them. I 319 00:14:50,680 --> 00:14:55,600 Speaker 2: think that happens there. But when you're trying to get 320 00:14:55,640 --> 00:14:59,280 Speaker 2: the people with you, when you're trying to get another 321 00:14:59,320 --> 00:15:03,280 Speaker 2: cell on streak on some day, you need to create events. 322 00:15:03,760 --> 00:15:05,680 Speaker 3: You need to create stuff that people remember. 323 00:15:06,840 --> 00:15:11,400 Speaker 2: And Sergey Morrishaw playing tomorrow night might do that at 324 00:15:11,480 --> 00:15:12,360 Speaker 2: least a little bit. 325 00:15:13,160 --> 00:15:16,240 Speaker 3: At least you tried. Let's go real quick to. 326 00:15:16,200 --> 00:15:21,480 Speaker 2: Dawn don you're in double m Hey. 327 00:15:21,520 --> 00:15:23,960 Speaker 1: I called him yesterday, I say, and should get the shot. 328 00:15:24,240 --> 00:15:27,360 Speaker 5: Uh So, it's it's nice to see it's it's coming 329 00:15:27,360 --> 00:15:27,920 Speaker 5: to fruition. 330 00:15:28,160 --> 00:15:30,760 Speaker 1: But yeah, who knows. 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With OV sitting on six hundred and ninety 382 00:17:58,680 --> 00:18:01,240 Speaker 2: nine career goals, it sounds like a feature film. 383 00:18:02,640 --> 00:18:06,280 Speaker 1: Good afternoon, w M and yes, yes and double yes, 384 00:18:06,960 --> 00:18:08,880 Speaker 1: and not to correct you, but I think he's sitting 385 00:18:08,920 --> 00:18:13,280 Speaker 1: on seven ninety Wait a minute, yeah, eight ninety nine. 386 00:18:13,359 --> 00:18:15,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, I can't that many? 387 00:18:16,320 --> 00:18:18,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, No, I know you lose track. You're just like 388 00:18:18,920 --> 00:18:22,399 Speaker 1: anything over six hundred it blows your mind up. But 389 00:18:22,480 --> 00:18:25,119 Speaker 1: they play against Saint Louis tonight, so we'll get him 390 00:18:25,119 --> 00:18:26,800 Speaker 1: on the back to back. Uh. 391 00:18:26,840 --> 00:18:28,239 Speaker 5: And yeah, if he doesn't go against Sat. 392 00:18:28,280 --> 00:18:30,280 Speaker 1: Louis, he might roll into Pittsburgh looking for number nine 393 00:18:30,359 --> 00:18:32,760 Speaker 1: hundred and yeah, that would just add to the drama. 394 00:18:32,880 --> 00:18:36,160 Speaker 1: You know, they have another Russian goaltender go up against 395 00:18:36,200 --> 00:18:39,639 Speaker 1: Ovie and try to hold him at that eight ninety 396 00:18:39,720 --> 00:18:42,080 Speaker 1: nine number. I just heard you. I just popped in 397 00:18:42,119 --> 00:18:45,720 Speaker 1: the car. I heard you talking about all the kind 398 00:18:45,720 --> 00:18:48,919 Speaker 1: of undercurrent reasons as far as butts in the seats 399 00:18:49,000 --> 00:18:52,920 Speaker 1: and excitement and everything else. Because yeah, man, when people 400 00:18:52,920 --> 00:18:55,040 Speaker 1: are having the you know, the waffles in the morning 401 00:18:55,080 --> 00:18:58,400 Speaker 1: and drinking coffee around the breakfast table, you know, there's 402 00:18:58,400 --> 00:19:00,960 Speaker 1: a lot of people in Pittsburgh talking about Sergei Mirshoff. 403 00:19:01,560 --> 00:19:04,600 Speaker 1: His name has become well known and he's never played 404 00:19:04,640 --> 00:19:06,840 Speaker 1: the game for the Penguins yet, And but you know, 405 00:19:06,920 --> 00:19:11,720 Speaker 1: talking to people down in Wilsbury that he's not slowing down, 406 00:19:11,760 --> 00:19:13,840 Speaker 1: that like, this guy's a real deal. What he did 407 00:19:13,840 --> 00:19:16,600 Speaker 1: in East Coast League and Wheeling is well documented. You 408 00:19:16,640 --> 00:19:18,600 Speaker 1: don't need me on here to tell you how he 409 00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:21,600 Speaker 1: absolutely destroyed that league and thought Okay, Well, the American 410 00:19:21,680 --> 00:19:23,639 Speaker 1: League is a different level. Well, he did it in 411 00:19:23,680 --> 00:19:27,400 Speaker 1: the American League too. He just absolutely is lightning on fire. 412 00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:30,880 Speaker 1: You mentioned he was goaltender of the Month in October in. 413 00:19:30,800 --> 00:19:31,719 Speaker 5: The American League. 414 00:19:32,280 --> 00:19:35,560 Speaker 1: He's never lost the game in overtime or shootouts. His 415 00:19:35,680 --> 00:19:39,160 Speaker 1: numbers as far as you know, say percentage goals against 416 00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:42,359 Speaker 1: Mark or and if you even go to you know, 417 00:19:42,560 --> 00:19:45,480 Speaker 1: Elite Prospects dot com and look at his record when 418 00:19:45,520 --> 00:19:50,480 Speaker 1: he was sixteen, fifteen, fourteen thirteen, they're all the same Mark. 419 00:19:51,160 --> 00:19:53,560 Speaker 5: This this kid is is I don't know how what 420 00:19:53,720 --> 00:19:54,240 Speaker 5: you want. 421 00:19:54,080 --> 00:19:57,719 Speaker 1: To call him a protigy or what, but this is 422 00:19:57,760 --> 00:20:01,080 Speaker 1: not something new for him. He is he has really 423 00:20:01,160 --> 00:20:04,679 Speaker 1: dialed in in the goaltender position, and he is mature 424 00:20:04,720 --> 00:20:05,520 Speaker 1: beyond his years. 425 00:20:05,760 --> 00:20:07,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, I for sure would start him up. 426 00:20:07,760 --> 00:20:11,720 Speaker 2: I know that the rotation dictates otherwise that it should 427 00:20:11,720 --> 00:20:14,159 Speaker 2: be Shillof's, but mus and Doubas need to have a 428 00:20:14,200 --> 00:20:16,880 Speaker 2: sense of the occasion. It would remind me very much 429 00:20:16,920 --> 00:20:20,679 Speaker 2: of Flurry at eighteen in two thousand and three, forty 430 00:20:20,680 --> 00:20:23,439 Speaker 2: eight saves and stuffed the penalty shot despite a two 431 00:20:23,560 --> 00:20:26,480 Speaker 2: nil lost to Los Angeles. It was a coming out party. 432 00:20:26,800 --> 00:20:29,560 Speaker 2: You need to give moments a chance to happen. And 433 00:20:29,600 --> 00:20:32,240 Speaker 2: I'm telling you, Borky ain't. No moment could have happened 434 00:20:32,480 --> 00:20:36,160 Speaker 2: even if more Shock plays great twelve thirty Saturday at 435 00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:36,800 Speaker 2: New Jersey. 436 00:20:38,680 --> 00:20:42,159 Speaker 1: No. I agree, And you're right. You know, it's all 437 00:20:42,160 --> 00:20:45,920 Speaker 1: about whether we're talking about life or we're talking about sports. 438 00:20:45,960 --> 00:20:49,000 Speaker 1: When preparation meets opportunity, that's when great things happen. And 439 00:20:49,040 --> 00:20:51,480 Speaker 1: that's the thing. This kid has been preparing for this moment. 440 00:20:51,920 --> 00:20:56,840 Speaker 1: He's never got caught up in accolades or numbers or 441 00:20:57,080 --> 00:20:59,480 Speaker 1: any of that. He just goes about his business. 442 00:21:01,160 --> 00:21:03,959 Speaker 5: It's a little sid like in the way he is. 443 00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:07,720 Speaker 1: He is all in with his preparation before games, after games, 444 00:21:07,760 --> 00:21:10,360 Speaker 1: the way he takes sure of his body, the things 445 00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:12,800 Speaker 1: he puts in his body, and how he recovers for 446 00:21:12,880 --> 00:21:15,399 Speaker 1: the next start for a kid as young as he 447 00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:18,000 Speaker 1: is at twenty one years of age. And you're right, 448 00:21:18,160 --> 00:21:20,680 Speaker 1: I don't think any moment would be too big for him. 449 00:21:20,720 --> 00:21:24,440 Speaker 1: I think he is again, he's so prepared for whatever 450 00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:26,720 Speaker 1: you throw at him. You know, Kindles a little bit 451 00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:28,520 Speaker 1: like that too, Ben Kindle's a little bit like that too, 452 00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:31,200 Speaker 1: that he can't believe that these kids are eighteen twenty 453 00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:35,160 Speaker 1: one years of age and have this mind that works 454 00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:38,240 Speaker 1: at a different level than the average Joe of how 455 00:21:38,280 --> 00:21:40,960 Speaker 1: they absorb information and then how they are able to 456 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:43,280 Speaker 1: take it and say, Okay, I can use this, this, 457 00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:45,520 Speaker 1: this and this, this is good for me. Okay, let 458 00:21:45,520 --> 00:21:46,480 Speaker 1: me go play my game. 459 00:21:47,200 --> 00:21:48,399 Speaker 3: Well, speak of the Devil. 460 00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:51,480 Speaker 2: Just as exciting to me is Ben Kindle skating at 461 00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:52,679 Speaker 2: wing on Sid's line. 462 00:21:52,840 --> 00:21:55,280 Speaker 3: I feel like he's more of a center, but I feel. 463 00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:57,720 Speaker 2: Like this is a good move for right now, and 464 00:21:57,800 --> 00:22:00,640 Speaker 2: I feel like Kindle and Sid might think the game 465 00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:01,760 Speaker 2: in similar fashion. 466 00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:07,800 Speaker 1: I agree, Uh it might, but just on the outside 467 00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:11,360 Speaker 1: looking in, look like almost by default, like, okay, well, 468 00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:13,040 Speaker 1: if we don't put Kendle there, who are we going 469 00:22:13,119 --> 00:22:15,240 Speaker 1: to put there that would would fit well? That maybe 470 00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:18,320 Speaker 1: can think the game on a Sid level. And I 471 00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:20,800 Speaker 1: don't know if there's in somebody else right now that 472 00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:23,680 Speaker 1: could be that plug and play. And his confidence has 473 00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:26,560 Speaker 1: to be at an all time high getting two goals 474 00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:28,520 Speaker 1: in Toronto the other night, and the way that he 475 00:22:28,600 --> 00:22:31,840 Speaker 1: scored them, they're not excuse me goals. He goes to 476 00:22:31,920 --> 00:22:34,400 Speaker 1: the net and he knows, uh, he's got that quick 477 00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:39,840 Speaker 1: release and He's got incredible confidence without cockiness. And you know, 478 00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:41,840 Speaker 1: I think having Brian Russ on that line too, and 479 00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:45,640 Speaker 1: Russy's really developed into a great leader. So Sid could 480 00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:47,159 Speaker 1: talk to you, and you might be a little bit 481 00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:50,120 Speaker 1: overwhelmed talking to Sid and just you know little things 482 00:22:50,119 --> 00:22:52,280 Speaker 1: that Sid, little hints he might give you. But then 483 00:22:52,320 --> 00:22:54,359 Speaker 1: if you have Rusty talking to you too at a 484 00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:57,480 Speaker 1: much different level. Uh, you know, it took Rusty a 485 00:22:57,520 --> 00:22:59,840 Speaker 1: while to figure out how the play was Sid. So 486 00:22:59,840 --> 00:23:03,520 Speaker 1: I think maybe Rusty could tell Ben Kindall a few 487 00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:07,920 Speaker 1: little tips and shortcuts on what works and just as 488 00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:11,520 Speaker 1: importantly what doesn't work was Sid. And you have to admit, 489 00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:14,639 Speaker 1: Mark that the Kindle has that brain that functions at 490 00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:17,280 Speaker 1: a different level than most and the way he thinks 491 00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:20,440 Speaker 1: the game and the way he processes both things offensively 492 00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:21,240 Speaker 1: and defensively. 493 00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:23,879 Speaker 2: We're talking to Phil Bark from the Penguins Radio Network 494 00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:26,440 Speaker 2: and sports Net Pittsburgh. Bork, I'm gonna go way off 495 00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:29,600 Speaker 2: the charts here, but bear with me. After the way 496 00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:34,359 Speaker 2: Kindall played on the power play in Toronto, he should 497 00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:36,720 Speaker 2: run it from that left half wall, and that's when 498 00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:40,399 Speaker 2: everybody's healthy. He's got more power play acumen in just 499 00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:43,240 Speaker 2: a short bit we've seen than anybody they got. 500 00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:50,560 Speaker 5: I can't disagree with you. He yeah, he just figures 501 00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:53,160 Speaker 5: it out. Mark, I just I don't know if i've seen. 502 00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:57,359 Speaker 1: An eighteen year old kid. You know that. We didn't 503 00:23:57,520 --> 00:23:59,640 Speaker 1: hear that. We I mean, we heard really good things 504 00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:04,720 Speaker 1: about obviously eleventh overall, but you're right, he takes for 505 00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:08,399 Speaker 1: this given he doesn't try to force things. He's simplified things. 506 00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:12,240 Speaker 1: He's got that little it's a little curling drag. Mark, 507 00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:17,719 Speaker 1: it's a little it's so so it's he just changes 508 00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:21,760 Speaker 1: the right and then he's got an unbelievable snap. I 509 00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:24,439 Speaker 1: don't know where his his stick flex is, but you 510 00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:26,160 Speaker 1: know he wears that number eighty one. He's a right 511 00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:28,879 Speaker 1: hand shot. It's it's a little phill like right where 512 00:24:29,080 --> 00:24:30,639 Speaker 1: it just jumps off the stick and all of a 513 00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:34,760 Speaker 1: sudden goaltenders are surprised that it's by him and he's 514 00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:37,560 Speaker 1: figuring out now that Okay, I could be that bumper guy. 515 00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:40,400 Speaker 1: We haven't seen him really unleashed one from the kind 516 00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:43,120 Speaker 1: of the high bumper spot you know where Patrice Berground 517 00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:46,240 Speaker 1: used to be. Mark, Uh, you know, tj Oshie is 518 00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:48,160 Speaker 1: a few guys in the league that are really good 519 00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:50,400 Speaker 1: at that bumper guy. I think he can be that guy. 520 00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:52,760 Speaker 1: I think he's got that release, maybe not from forty 521 00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:55,080 Speaker 1: to forty five feet out, but maybe twenty five to 522 00:24:55,119 --> 00:24:57,680 Speaker 1: thirty thirty five feet out. He could be a goaltender 523 00:24:57,720 --> 00:25:01,000 Speaker 1: clean and he's got that that quick feet and a 524 00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:03,399 Speaker 1: quick mind that are matched up with the feet to 525 00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:05,720 Speaker 1: make those decisions. Should I be on the flank, should 526 00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:07,199 Speaker 1: I be in front of the net, Should I be 527 00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:09,680 Speaker 1: the bumper guy? Should I go behind the net? Should 528 00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:12,359 Speaker 1: I flip flop with Gino with a flip flop with Sid. 529 00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:16,040 Speaker 1: I think that it's seamless for him because it's just instincts. 530 00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:19,560 Speaker 1: And again, he's prepared. He's prepared himself for this moment, 531 00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:21,919 Speaker 1: and he's not I don't know how he was brought up, 532 00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:25,680 Speaker 1: but he's not overwhelmed by the opponent, by the venue, 533 00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:28,920 Speaker 1: by who he's playing against, and certainly who he's playing with. 534 00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:32,280 Speaker 2: Well, his parents were two pro soccer players, So yeah, 535 00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:34,840 Speaker 2: that part of it doesn't surprise me. And I want 536 00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:37,280 Speaker 2: to backtrack, Like I said, Kindle should run the power play. 537 00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:39,760 Speaker 2: And I'm sure some were shocked that I said that. 538 00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:42,680 Speaker 2: I said that because people are like well, sid and Gino, 539 00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:45,720 Speaker 2: but I know you agree sid In Gino and no 540 00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:49,080 Speaker 2: knock on them. They're not great power play players. They 541 00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:52,040 Speaker 2: get points on the power play, but they aren't classically 542 00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:54,560 Speaker 2: great with the man advantage like you know how Mario 543 00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:57,680 Speaker 2: was or Gonchar was, where they just had it figured 544 00:25:57,720 --> 00:26:00,840 Speaker 2: out as good as SidD In Gino are five, I 545 00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:04,320 Speaker 2: don't think they've ever totally figured out the power play. 546 00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:06,439 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think if if you be, if this 547 00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:09,520 Speaker 1: is where you're going, I'm gonna lean into it. Those 548 00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:12,400 Speaker 1: two together. I mean, we have seen brilliance between eighty 549 00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:17,480 Speaker 1: seven and seventy one, but it's it's not as regular 550 00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:21,520 Speaker 1: as you make a great example Gauntchar and Malkin on 551 00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:24,480 Speaker 1: the power play. Those are two peas in the pod. 552 00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:27,080 Speaker 1: They thought exactly the same and it was it was 553 00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:30,480 Speaker 1: magical those years. It was absolutely magical and how they 554 00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:32,960 Speaker 1: worked it around. And then you you we even said 555 00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:36,720 Speaker 1: there too, right, But you bring in a guy like Kindle, 556 00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:39,800 Speaker 1: and you're right because the league doesn't really know about 557 00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:43,359 Speaker 1: Ben kindall, so he's really unpredictable to his opponents. But 558 00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:47,520 Speaker 1: I think because of his positioning, you know, how he 559 00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:50,800 Speaker 1: shows his stick all those little things that he does 560 00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:53,600 Speaker 1: that he can kind of give those no look passes, 561 00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:57,160 Speaker 1: where again unpredictable to the opponent, predictable to his teammates. 562 00:26:57,359 --> 00:26:59,920 Speaker 1: I think you add in all those elements with high 563 00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:03,480 Speaker 1: guys like Sid and Gino that I think it can be. 564 00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:06,840 Speaker 1: And then also now it adds to his five on 565 00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:09,520 Speaker 1: five play with Rusty and Sid, because he'll be out 566 00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:10,840 Speaker 1: there on the power play with them also. 567 00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:13,960 Speaker 2: And one thing that I was working toward, I think 568 00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:16,800 Speaker 2: you sense it. I'm glad Kindle's on Sid's line, so 569 00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:20,160 Speaker 2: Gino isn't. They tried that in Toronto. It failed miserably, 570 00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:23,159 Speaker 2: and let's be honest, it always does. I've never remembered 571 00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:26,080 Speaker 2: a game where those two playing together five on five 572 00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:27,280 Speaker 2: really stuck. 573 00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:31,800 Speaker 1: No. I've mentioned it in the booth because at times 574 00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:35,280 Speaker 1: it's awkward that they look for each other. But it's 575 00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:39,200 Speaker 1: it's it's just not magical. It's just not it's not seamless, 576 00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:43,159 Speaker 1: it doesn't, it doesn't just organically happen. You know, if 577 00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:45,200 Speaker 1: they're out there four and four or even three on 578 00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:48,680 Speaker 1: three in overtime, you see more creativity between the two, 579 00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:51,320 Speaker 1: but five on five you just don't see it as 580 00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:53,920 Speaker 1: much I can't give you a reason. I don't know why, Mark, 581 00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:55,760 Speaker 1: I'm made. I don't know if you even have a reason. 582 00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:57,199 Speaker 4: No, I got no idea. 583 00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:01,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, it just doesn't seem to gel like you expected 584 00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:01,720 Speaker 1: to write. 585 00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:03,760 Speaker 3: No, exactly right. 586 00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:07,000 Speaker 2: We always think it should work, but it never really 587 00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:12,119 Speaker 2: does work. Now, speaking of something that didn't work, how 588 00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:15,080 Speaker 2: about the third period of that game in Toronto, after 589 00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:18,240 Speaker 2: playing Toronto badly for the first forty minutes, how much 590 00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:21,080 Speaker 2: of a carryover will there be from that tragedy as 591 00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:22,199 Speaker 2: the Penguins move forward? 592 00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:26,840 Speaker 1: Good question, Yeah, because the Penguins started but seven tow 593 00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:28,920 Speaker 1: and one in their first ten games, and now they're 594 00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:32,320 Speaker 1: won two and one in the last four. The game 595 00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:35,639 Speaker 1: in Winnipeg preceding the Toronto game, with all all that 596 00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:39,040 Speaker 1: in the bag of chips, the Columbus game wasn't great 597 00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:42,120 Speaker 1: for the Penguins either, so you know, there's been some 598 00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:45,040 Speaker 1: leaky moments and they've got to dial it back in again. 599 00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:48,120 Speaker 1: But to get back to your specific question about the 600 00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:54,000 Speaker 1: Toronto game, I don't remember saying as dominant, and Holy Moses, 601 00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:57,320 Speaker 1: was that dominant in that second period? I mean Toronto 602 00:28:58,040 --> 00:28:59,920 Speaker 1: barely got a shot on goal any of the shot 603 00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:04,080 Speaker 1: that were registered were dribblers that came in on Tristan 604 00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:08,280 Speaker 1: Jari and then to see things just kind of like 605 00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:10,720 Speaker 1: stand through the hour glass and you just could not 606 00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:15,640 Speaker 1: stop it. After the Matthews goal to start the third period. 607 00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:18,800 Speaker 5: It just shows you how crazy sports can be. 608 00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:21,080 Speaker 1: It's a shame that happened to the Penguins. You wish 609 00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:23,320 Speaker 1: it happened to somebody else and you could look at 610 00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:25,640 Speaker 1: it and say, hey, let's not let this happen to us, 611 00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:27,800 Speaker 1: But it did happen to us. So you can go 612 00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:30,760 Speaker 1: two ways with it, right Mark, You can completely unravel 613 00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:33,160 Speaker 1: and just go right in the crapper the rest of November, 614 00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:36,480 Speaker 1: or you can say, okay, wakey, wakey, that was enough 615 00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:38,640 Speaker 1: of that, and we're going to get back to playing 616 00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:41,960 Speaker 1: the way we played when we went seven to and one. 617 00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:44,480 Speaker 1: We're going to bring the details back. We're gonna be 618 00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:49,080 Speaker 1: way better defensively, more consistent, because in that second period, 619 00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:51,280 Speaker 1: the things that really stood out to me where they 620 00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:53,880 Speaker 1: were moving their feet, everything was done with a purpose. 621 00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:56,480 Speaker 1: Even to dump the puck in. It was dumped to retrieve, 622 00:29:56,560 --> 00:30:00,640 Speaker 1: not dump the chase. They want every fifty to fifty battle. 623 00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:03,280 Speaker 1: They were first to every loose puck. Just just go 624 00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:06,520 Speaker 1: back to those things. When you play Washington tomorrow, have 625 00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:08,880 Speaker 1: that great start, because that's the other part. They talked 626 00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:11,840 Speaker 1: about how crappy their start was against Winnipeg, and that's 627 00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:15,320 Speaker 1: something that's easily correctable, and they did that against Toronto. 628 00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:17,520 Speaker 1: Let's see if they can do it against Washington tomorrow 629 00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:20,800 Speaker 1: night and get back on the tracks. Because you look 630 00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:23,040 Speaker 1: at where this is crazy. I just looked at the 631 00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:27,120 Speaker 1: standings here, Mark, it's thirteen teams. It's not thirteen teams 632 00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:31,800 Speaker 1: between sixteen points and eighteen points. You're one week from 633 00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:35,280 Speaker 1: being down in the basement or one week being clear 634 00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:38,000 Speaker 1: number one in the National Highy League. It's crazy what's 635 00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:38,960 Speaker 1: going on in the league. 636 00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:40,160 Speaker 3: Right now, Bourky. 637 00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:42,800 Speaker 2: In a weird way, I'm looking forward to seeing Danton 638 00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:47,680 Speaker 2: Heinen and Ryan Graves play after their recall for Wilkes too, 639 00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:50,800 Speaker 2: you know, kind of recycled vets. Heinen was leading the 640 00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:55,440 Speaker 2: Little Penguins and scoring and played well with Cleyven and 641 00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:59,760 Speaker 2: Don there as a line, if memory serves in, Graves 642 00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:01,680 Speaker 2: got to know he's at the last chance saloon. I mean, 643 00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:05,080 Speaker 2: I didn't expect to see him all year, but opportunities knocking. 644 00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:10,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, let's start with Heine first. I think we all 645 00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:11,960 Speaker 1: like Heinel, but we're not in the on the good 646 00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:14,920 Speaker 1: guy business. We're in the win hockey games business. And 647 00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:17,880 Speaker 1: that's gonna be humbling for him. Again. Talking to some 648 00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:20,080 Speaker 1: people down in wilts they said that both were really 649 00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:24,880 Speaker 1: good soldiers. Yeah, and Kirk kirk McDonald down there and 650 00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:27,440 Speaker 1: one of his press conferences say hey, let's let's just 651 00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:29,440 Speaker 1: get the cards on the table here. Let's not know 652 00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:32,560 Speaker 1: smoke and mirrors here. These guys are not happy to 653 00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:35,480 Speaker 1: be here. They wanted to get the heck out of here, right, 654 00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:39,000 Speaker 1: And so yeah, not only with Heinel leaning leading Wilsbury 655 00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:41,840 Speaker 1: and scoring, he was tied for the league lead in scoring. 656 00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:44,400 Speaker 1: So good on you, Dann Heine. And they didn't drag 657 00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:46,760 Speaker 1: his lip across the ice. He pulled up his socks 658 00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:49,080 Speaker 1: and started putting biscuits in the basket. So I'm not 659 00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:52,640 Speaker 1: worried about him. He's a great pro, great teammate. He'll 660 00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:54,160 Speaker 1: do whatever you ask him to do. 661 00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:56,080 Speaker 4: And being the guy. 662 00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:59,080 Speaker 1: That got singled out because of the competition in training camp, 663 00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:01,720 Speaker 1: that's gonna be humble. And hopefully you put a rocket 664 00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:04,520 Speaker 1: ship up his backside as far as Gravy. I think 665 00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:08,440 Speaker 1: if Ryan Graves just starts playing like a big Richard 666 00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:11,080 Speaker 1: if you know what I mean short for Richard, I 667 00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:14,240 Speaker 1: think other things will start to fall into place for him. 668 00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:17,120 Speaker 1: He's six foot five, two hundred and twenty five pounds. 669 00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:20,000 Speaker 1: He is a mountain of a man, and I think 670 00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:22,760 Speaker 1: if he just kind of kind of wants to just 671 00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:25,480 Speaker 1: kind of meander and tiptoe through the tulips and just 672 00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:28,320 Speaker 1: kind of not make a mistake, just be safe, just 673 00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:31,640 Speaker 1: be okay, I don't think things work out well for him. 674 00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:34,200 Speaker 1: I think if he again be a difference maker, that's 675 00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:36,480 Speaker 1: what Dan Muse is saying. That's what he wants from guys. 676 00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:38,680 Speaker 1: If you don't end up on the score sheet, do 677 00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:43,000 Speaker 1: something in the hockey game that changes the momentum, and 678 00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:46,360 Speaker 1: you walk out of the rink and go holy man. 679 00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:49,280 Speaker 1: Ryan Graves was unbelievable tonight. He didn't end up on 680 00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:51,959 Speaker 1: the score sheet, but man, he was a major factor 681 00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:54,280 Speaker 1: in the Penguins winning the hockey game. That's what you 682 00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:55,320 Speaker 1: need from Ryan Graves. 683 00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:57,640 Speaker 3: Here's the other thing that boats may be well. 684 00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:00,920 Speaker 2: I think Dan Muse's system is just a bit more 685 00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:05,320 Speaker 2: structurally defensive and a bit more simple defensively that it 686 00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:08,960 Speaker 2: might suit Ryan Graves because in his previous NHL stops 687 00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:12,000 Speaker 2: that was the case, that type of method utilized, and 688 00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:13,120 Speaker 2: he was much better there. 689 00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:16,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, both in Colorado and New Jersey. You're right, he 690 00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:19,800 Speaker 1: and also he was he was paired with top guys, right, 691 00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:21,600 Speaker 1: he was part of the top pairing because he was 692 00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:24,240 Speaker 1: there kind of the Brian Doomot, you know, the stay 693 00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:26,920 Speaker 1: at home guy, just play it safe, right, And so 694 00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:29,160 Speaker 1: now a little bit more is being asked out of 695 00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:33,560 Speaker 1: him here in Pittsburgh. And listen, this is a weak 696 00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:37,720 Speaker 1: you know, excuse for him if I'm making it that, 697 00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:40,520 Speaker 1: you know, the the change and the system and all that, 698 00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:43,640 Speaker 1: and then you know he got behind it and he 699 00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:46,400 Speaker 1: was reading his press clippings and all the negativity in 700 00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:49,280 Speaker 1: town about him. Forget about that. Don't look at any 701 00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:52,920 Speaker 1: social media gravy. He can play the game. We've seen 702 00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:56,280 Speaker 1: good moments from Ryan Graves, but we've seen some bad moments, 703 00:33:56,320 --> 00:33:59,240 Speaker 1: and that people want to remember the bad. I think, listen, 704 00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:01,720 Speaker 1: with damn you coming in here, everybody wanted to clean 705 00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:05,840 Speaker 1: sheet of ice, right, I think as Penguin fans, media, 706 00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:09,560 Speaker 1: everybody alike, Let's give the guy a chance, another chance here, Okay, 707 00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:12,760 Speaker 1: because that's what life's all about about second and third chances. 708 00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:15,759 Speaker 1: All right, maybe he's gonna come back and be that 709 00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:17,759 Speaker 1: player that we want him to be. We hope. So 710 00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:20,960 Speaker 1: he's a good guy, he's a good teammate. You pull 711 00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:23,840 Speaker 1: for people like this that, you know where everybody was 712 00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:26,880 Speaker 1: crapping on him, and now he's got a second opportunity 713 00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:29,520 Speaker 1: with the same team to redeem himself and be one 714 00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:31,719 Speaker 1: heck of a defense because we were gonna really need 715 00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:33,200 Speaker 1: him here with all the injuries we have. 716 00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:36,000 Speaker 3: Borky, you are the man. Great stuff. We'll see at 717 00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:36,840 Speaker 3: the rink tomorrow. 718 00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:38,799 Speaker 1: Look forward to it. Double. 719 00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:42,680 Speaker 5: I'm enjoyed our time together. This was good hockey talk up. 720 00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:45,760 Speaker 2: Next as mark anything dial now dial white this second 721 00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:49,040 Speaker 2: eight three three four one two WXDX eight three three 722 00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:52,160 Speaker 2: four one two wxdx or leave a talk back via 723 00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:56,400 Speaker 2: the microphone icon at the iHeartMedia appe X. 724 00:34:57,680 --> 00:35:01,680 Speaker 3: It's the Woodie Show Show Mornings at six. Precocious and 725 00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:06,640 Speaker 3: full of wonderment. What's that sound? That's the sound of 726 00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:16,520 Speaker 3: the X at one. Thanks to Borky for joining me. 727 00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:21,240 Speaker 2: Also, I gotta give Wes Clark the Penguins chief Scott 728 00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:26,160 Speaker 2: some credit. He's I guess his title technically is Director 729 00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:30,200 Speaker 2: of Player Personnel. He's made some great calls on draft picks, 730 00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:33,040 Speaker 2: not at least Ben Kendle. A lot of people thought 731 00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:36,839 Speaker 2: Ben Kindle at eleven overall was a reach, but Wes 732 00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:37,600 Speaker 2: Clark knew. 733 00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:40,920 Speaker 3: And we see already how special this kid's gonna be. 734 00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:44,320 Speaker 2: Uh and maybe even more so tomorrow night when he 735 00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:48,080 Speaker 2: jumps onto Sidney Crosby's line when Washington visits. 736 00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:50,240 Speaker 3: So full credit to Wes Clark. 737 00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:51,359 Speaker 1: Uh. 738 00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:54,440 Speaker 3: Let's go to Antonio. Antonio, ask Mark anything. 739 00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:59,280 Speaker 6: Hey, Mark, I'll get the Hounds game on on Saturday. 740 00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:02,080 Speaker 1: And I was just after watching that penalty shout out. 741 00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:04,160 Speaker 6: I was thinking to myself, I'm going to carry that 742 00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:05,959 Speaker 6: feeling with me for the rest of my life because 743 00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:08,480 Speaker 6: it would just sell electric. So I wanted to ask 744 00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:11,520 Speaker 6: you what type of soccer moment would like Do you 745 00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:13,239 Speaker 6: have that carry that you'll carry with you for the 746 00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:13,960 Speaker 6: rest of your life? 747 00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:17,600 Speaker 2: Winning the European Cup in two thousand and five when 748 00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:21,440 Speaker 2: Liverpool trail d Acmulian three zero at halftime and scored three 749 00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:23,400 Speaker 2: goals in nine minutes to not the game up and 750 00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:27,759 Speaker 2: then one in penalty kicks. I watched that game with 751 00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:32,640 Speaker 2: my mom, who was very ill. Never flinch, never gave up, 752 00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:35,640 Speaker 2: never thought we were out of it, And yeah, I 753 00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:38,640 Speaker 2: will carry that with me for sure for the rest 754 00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:39,040 Speaker 2: of my life. 755 00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:41,560 Speaker 3: Let's go to Justin. Justin ask Mark anything? 756 00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:43,879 Speaker 1: Hey what I'm Mark? 757 00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:46,799 Speaker 6: So I lived with two British guys in New York 758 00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:49,280 Speaker 6: and they've been getting me into severe leg I'm trying 759 00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:51,319 Speaker 6: to become a Villa fan, but I don't know what's 760 00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:51,719 Speaker 6: gonna take. 761 00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:53,000 Speaker 1: They're kind of stuck in the mid table. 762 00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:56,040 Speaker 4: So thoughts, pros, cons opinions. 763 00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:58,080 Speaker 2: You think, I think you're overthinking it. I mean, if 764 00:36:58,120 --> 00:37:01,200 Speaker 2: you like Villa, root for Villa. They're solid team, great tradition, 765 00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:04,839 Speaker 2: former European Cup champions, I think in nineteen eighty, good 766 00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:07,440 Speaker 2: team right now, good manager with Unai Emery. 767 00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:09,120 Speaker 3: Don't overthink things. 768 00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:11,479 Speaker 2: Plus, if you wait to see who like the best 769 00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:13,680 Speaker 2: team is, that just makes you a front runner. If 770 00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:15,600 Speaker 2: Bill was the first team that caught your fancy, that's 771 00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:16,400 Speaker 2: who you should go with. 772 00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:20,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, but they're having trouble scoring goals. It's a little frustrating. 773 00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:21,920 Speaker 2: Well, then you should pretty then you shouldn't be a 774 00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:24,040 Speaker 2: football fan at all. You're overthinking it too much. Thanks 775 00:37:24,120 --> 00:37:26,920 Speaker 2: for Colin. Let's go to a talkback. 776 00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:29,240 Speaker 3: Super genius, Eric and Toledo. 777 00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:32,400 Speaker 1: Hey, I thought demonte Kz was just released from Cleveland. 778 00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:35,640 Speaker 1: Would you consider bringing him back to shore up the 779 00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:37,560 Speaker 1: safety position? Thanks? 780 00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:41,319 Speaker 3: You know, it's funny I thought the same thing. He's 781 00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:44,920 Speaker 3: a really dirty player. He got that four game suspension. Remember, 782 00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:50,600 Speaker 3: gets a lot of personal foul penalties. Ein'ight, real greats. 783 00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:56,720 Speaker 2: But if I had to pick between him Chuck Clark 784 00:37:57,280 --> 00:38:01,920 Speaker 2: won Thornhill and Pepper's, I might pick him on te Casey. 785 00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:05,600 Speaker 2: I'm not saying it'd be any well, he would be 786 00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:07,480 Speaker 2: better than these guys. I don't know how much better. 787 00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:09,799 Speaker 2: I don't know if it's worth it because he's, you know, 788 00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:12,680 Speaker 2: like I said, lots of flags, real dirty player. 789 00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:14,480 Speaker 3: Let's go to a talkback. 790 00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:17,200 Speaker 1: Hey, double m uh. Just curious. 791 00:38:17,239 --> 00:38:21,280 Speaker 3: When you're in traffic, what what's your method? 792 00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:23,920 Speaker 1: Do you stay in one lane no matter what, or 793 00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:25,879 Speaker 1: do you try to beat the traffic do you try 794 00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:29,240 Speaker 1: to outsmart it, jump lanes, try to go with the flow. 795 00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:31,000 Speaker 1: What's your approach? 796 00:38:31,320 --> 00:38:34,240 Speaker 2: I generally stay in one lane unless one lane stopped 797 00:38:34,239 --> 00:38:37,520 Speaker 2: in one lanes moving I mean, duh. But on my 798 00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:39,120 Speaker 2: way home, I always try to get in the left 799 00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:41,120 Speaker 2: plane because that's the line I got to be in 800 00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:45,360 Speaker 2: eventually to turn to take my exit to go to 801 00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:47,680 Speaker 2: twenty eight norths which ultimately takes me home. I'm talking 802 00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:52,000 Speaker 2: about coming through the tunnels. Well, speaking to which I 803 00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:54,160 Speaker 2: had a road rage incin today. I was going up 804 00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:58,200 Speaker 2: Pig Hill on twenty eight that goes to my old 805 00:38:58,239 --> 00:39:01,640 Speaker 2: neighborhood in montroy where I grew up, where my bank is, 806 00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:06,560 Speaker 2: and some old guy in a truck blocked it's a 807 00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:09,160 Speaker 2: two way street, even though it's very narrow and at 808 00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:09,640 Speaker 2: the bottom. 809 00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:10,359 Speaker 3: He was trying to get out. 810 00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:11,880 Speaker 2: He had the whole thing blocked while he waited for 811 00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:13,680 Speaker 2: the light, so I was sitting in the middle of 812 00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:15,400 Speaker 2: the street. Finally I just put up alongside him. I 813 00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:17,319 Speaker 2: go bleep, and he bleep, bleep, bleep, Get the f 814 00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:19,360 Speaker 2: out of the street. He goes, what am I supposed 815 00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:21,560 Speaker 2: to do? And I go it's a two lane road. 816 00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:22,160 Speaker 3: M effort. 817 00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:24,759 Speaker 2: He threatened me and I like almost want to get 818 00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:26,360 Speaker 2: out of my car, and he just left, which is 819 00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:28,279 Speaker 2: good because well, no, he wouldn't have killed me. 820 00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:30,880 Speaker 3: It would have been two really old guys fighting and 821 00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:33,520 Speaker 3: I didn't want to fight. Let's go to a talk back. 822 00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:37,840 Speaker 5: That's one of those songs are in here, and you 823 00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:39,200 Speaker 5: just cannot. 824 00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:44,800 Speaker 3: Turn songs that I can't turn off. I don't know. 825 00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:48,400 Speaker 2: That's That's an odd question, but a good one, because 826 00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:50,960 Speaker 2: there are plenty of songs I've heard too much, like 827 00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:54,560 Speaker 2: like I've heard Stairway to Heaven and Freebird too much, 828 00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:56,800 Speaker 2: so I won't always leave. 829 00:39:56,640 --> 00:40:00,319 Speaker 3: Them on when they come on. H ask me. 830 00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:02,520 Speaker 2: Basically, my favorite song is like I mean, I don't know, 831 00:40:03,719 --> 00:40:07,000 Speaker 2: you know the music I use between breaks on this show. 832 00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:08,279 Speaker 3: Draw your own conclusions.