1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,600 Speaker 1: This is Duke of Duke Seafood letting you know that 2 00:00:02,680 --> 00:00:05,080 Speaker 1: this hour of Softy and Dick on your home for 3 00:00:05,160 --> 00:00:07,760 Speaker 1: the Huskies and Kraken is probably brought to you by 4 00:00:07,840 --> 00:00:10,560 Speaker 1: Duke Seafood. Why not make it a Duke's night tonight. 5 00:00:11,119 --> 00:00:14,760 Speaker 1: Reserve your table today at Dukeseafood dot com on Sports 6 00:00:14,880 --> 00:00:17,959 Speaker 1: Radio ninety three point three kjr FM. 7 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:22,360 Speaker 2: Her NFL champions, the seattles Hee Hawks have one Super 8 00:00:22,440 --> 00:00:23,360 Speaker 2: Bowl forty eight. 9 00:00:23,560 --> 00:00:26,560 Speaker 3: As part of our non stuff coverage of the NFL, 10 00:00:26,960 --> 00:00:29,320 Speaker 3: this is Softy's weekly visit with Kevin. 11 00:00:29,360 --> 00:00:32,240 Speaker 4: Harlan's a pulldozer. 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He's energy, duck Beck. 21 00:00:57,600 --> 00:01:01,320 Speaker 2: Theball free pick up ye of cunning down the tight 22 00:01:01,480 --> 00:01:07,960 Speaker 2: thirty twenty keV five touchdown, it's picked off in a touchdown, 23 00:01:08,760 --> 00:01:12,920 Speaker 2: Seattle is scored on another turnover and that we'll seeal. 24 00:01:12,959 --> 00:01:15,920 Speaker 2: And it seems right now for the Seahawks. The clock 25 00:01:16,040 --> 00:01:20,440 Speaker 2: is ticking two one and that's it. M The Seattle 26 00:01:20,480 --> 00:01:25,960 Speaker 2: Seahawks have one Super Bowl sixteen in pretty dominating fashion. 27 00:01:26,520 --> 00:01:31,480 Speaker 2: Twenty nine thirteen, they win their second. Vince Labody Cookie 28 00:01:31,760 --> 00:01:33,240 Speaker 2: that man on the call. 29 00:01:33,280 --> 00:01:35,720 Speaker 4: You heard the game right here on KJR on Sunday, 30 00:01:35,880 --> 00:01:39,400 Speaker 4: our friend every single Wednesday, courtesy of our pals at 31 00:01:39,400 --> 00:01:42,440 Speaker 4: Twin Peaks, Tuck Will. We are so lucky to have 32 00:01:42,520 --> 00:01:45,640 Speaker 4: this guy join us during the football season every Wednesday. 33 00:01:45,720 --> 00:01:47,880 Speaker 4: One more time though, to wrap it up and talk 34 00:01:47,920 --> 00:01:49,960 Speaker 4: about what it was like to be in the booth 35 00:01:50,040 --> 00:01:53,480 Speaker 4: in the stadium and call the Seahawks second title on Sunday, 36 00:01:53,840 --> 00:01:55,880 Speaker 4: our friend, Kevin Harlan, how are you man? 37 00:01:56,400 --> 00:02:00,200 Speaker 5: I'm doing great? Congratulations, how fun? And you and I 38 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:06,160 Speaker 5: had been talking that because they win so close to 39 00:02:06,200 --> 00:02:09,800 Speaker 5: the last time they won relatively speaking, you know, they 40 00:02:09,840 --> 00:02:13,639 Speaker 5: didn't skip the generation. Some teams skip, you know, multiple 41 00:02:13,680 --> 00:02:17,200 Speaker 5: generations before they win it. So it's always so new 42 00:02:17,320 --> 00:02:21,960 Speaker 5: and fresh and and you're just delirious because it has 43 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:23,120 Speaker 5: been so long. 44 00:02:23,080 --> 00:02:23,840 Speaker 6: For you guys. 45 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:28,120 Speaker 5: There is delirium, clearly, but at the same time, it's 46 00:02:28,160 --> 00:02:31,160 Speaker 5: the same generation now that has gotten to enjoy it, 47 00:02:31,240 --> 00:02:33,720 Speaker 5: you know, close together, you know about it a little 48 00:02:33,720 --> 00:02:36,359 Speaker 5: more than a decade apart. So so this is great. 49 00:02:36,520 --> 00:02:40,000 Speaker 5: And there was no doubt. I don't think in anybody's 50 00:02:40,040 --> 00:02:44,240 Speaker 5: mind that the best team going into the postseason was Seattle. 51 00:02:44,600 --> 00:02:49,200 Speaker 5: They didn't commit a turnover, which is remarkable but shows 52 00:02:49,240 --> 00:02:52,400 Speaker 5: you just how good this team was and when they 53 00:02:52,480 --> 00:02:57,239 Speaker 5: had to excel they did. Games are different. Games have 54 00:02:57,400 --> 00:03:01,079 Speaker 5: a different texture, they have a different field, they have 55 00:03:01,600 --> 00:03:06,760 Speaker 5: a different cadence and different points to mark along the way, 56 00:03:07,080 --> 00:03:09,480 Speaker 5: and this one was no different, Like this was different 57 00:03:09,520 --> 00:03:12,920 Speaker 5: than the RAM game, which was different than you know, 58 00:03:12,960 --> 00:03:15,679 Speaker 5: how the season ended to get to this position is 59 00:03:15,720 --> 00:03:19,400 Speaker 5: the number one overall seed in the NFC. So what 60 00:03:19,480 --> 00:03:23,160 Speaker 5: this team has done is terrific in every way. And 61 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:27,400 Speaker 5: congratulations and a well coached, well played playoff run. You 62 00:03:27,480 --> 00:03:30,640 Speaker 5: take in its totality, it's as good as we've seen lately. 63 00:03:31,320 --> 00:03:33,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, first team in the Super Bowl era to win 64 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:37,120 Speaker 4: a title and not have a turnover in the playoffs, 65 00:03:37,880 --> 00:03:41,160 Speaker 4: which is kind of ironic because that's what a lot 66 00:03:41,200 --> 00:03:44,760 Speaker 4: of people around the country were waiting for Sam Darnold 67 00:03:44,800 --> 00:03:47,960 Speaker 4: to do, to screw this up, to turn it over. 68 00:03:48,280 --> 00:03:49,960 Speaker 4: You know, I said on the show the other day 69 00:03:50,040 --> 00:03:53,040 Speaker 4: Kevin that when he took that sack, not fumbling the 70 00:03:53,040 --> 00:03:55,400 Speaker 4: ball to me, he was one of the biggest plays 71 00:03:55,800 --> 00:03:59,880 Speaker 4: of the game. So I guess how much credit should 72 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:03,880 Speaker 4: Damn Darnold get for the way the game went when 73 00:04:03,920 --> 00:04:07,240 Speaker 4: he really did not need to do a lot. Considering 74 00:04:07,280 --> 00:04:09,160 Speaker 4: the way the Seawk defense. 75 00:04:08,760 --> 00:04:12,040 Speaker 5: Played, well, you can hand this tool of their Their 76 00:04:12,200 --> 00:04:17,320 Speaker 5: main goal on the Patriots side defensively was clearly to 77 00:04:17,400 --> 00:04:20,880 Speaker 5: shut down Jackson, and for the most part they did. 78 00:04:21,040 --> 00:04:23,560 Speaker 5: He was a I hate to use the word non 79 00:04:23,640 --> 00:04:27,359 Speaker 5: factor because him being on the field, even when he's not, 80 00:04:27,640 --> 00:04:30,039 Speaker 5: you know, having the ball thrown his way, he is 81 00:04:30,080 --> 00:04:34,720 Speaker 5: a factor because he commands so much attention. So it 82 00:04:34,760 --> 00:04:37,599 Speaker 5: was one of those games where the defense this is 83 00:04:37,720 --> 00:04:41,200 Speaker 5: very Belichickian by the way, right, I mean and variable 84 00:04:41,320 --> 00:04:45,280 Speaker 5: is a disciple Bill Belichick, and that defense and Belichick's 85 00:04:45,360 --> 00:04:49,279 Speaker 5: number one thing every game going in defensively was to 86 00:04:49,360 --> 00:04:53,320 Speaker 5: shut down the number one thing and that opponent's offense, 87 00:04:53,480 --> 00:04:56,159 Speaker 5: right and clearly, But when you've got a couple of 88 00:04:56,160 --> 00:04:59,480 Speaker 5: guys that can make plays. Rookie tied end, you're terrific 89 00:04:59,560 --> 00:05:03,760 Speaker 5: running back, your quarterback who was in the MVP conversation, 90 00:05:04,279 --> 00:05:09,320 Speaker 5: and it had another spectacular year. It's it's hard to 91 00:05:09,360 --> 00:05:13,159 Speaker 5: plug every leak, and they got one maybe with Smith 92 00:05:13,200 --> 00:05:16,040 Speaker 5: and Jigba and the way they defended him. Bi Walker 93 00:05:16,160 --> 00:05:19,720 Speaker 5: clearly was able to take advantage of that. The quarterback 94 00:05:20,160 --> 00:05:22,480 Speaker 5: played the kind of game that he needed to play 95 00:05:22,560 --> 00:05:25,200 Speaker 5: in a game like that. That Seattle defense is good. 96 00:05:25,360 --> 00:05:28,279 Speaker 5: He knew it going in, just like yours. So like 97 00:05:29,160 --> 00:05:34,000 Speaker 5: everything for Sam, I just you know, this was you're 98 00:05:34,080 --> 00:05:37,480 Speaker 5: trying to poke holes in a number one seed in 99 00:05:37,520 --> 00:05:40,080 Speaker 5: a fourteen win season with a lot of wins to 100 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:42,320 Speaker 5: end the year in the in the most difficult division 101 00:05:42,320 --> 00:05:45,719 Speaker 5: in pro football, and you're gonna find one thing and 102 00:05:45,760 --> 00:05:49,240 Speaker 5: you're gonna make it look expensive. And they picked all 103 00:05:49,279 --> 00:05:53,800 Speaker 5: the experts said the turnovers. I was probably amongst that voice. Yeah, 104 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:56,039 Speaker 5: the turnovers were gonna be something you had to take 105 00:05:56,720 --> 00:06:00,880 Speaker 5: into account, and clearly the quarterback put that at the 106 00:06:00,920 --> 00:06:04,160 Speaker 5: top of his priority list as well, and it worked 107 00:06:04,440 --> 00:06:06,520 Speaker 5: not only in the Super Bowl but all playoff long. 108 00:06:06,680 --> 00:06:09,960 Speaker 4: Yeah. Well, Kevin Harlan's back with us again. We talked 109 00:06:09,960 --> 00:06:13,080 Speaker 4: to him Friday on on Radio Row and now he's 110 00:06:13,120 --> 00:06:13,839 Speaker 4: with us again. 111 00:06:14,640 --> 00:06:18,640 Speaker 5: Just be No one could deny it, no one could 112 00:06:18,720 --> 00:06:19,120 Speaker 5: say no. 113 00:06:19,400 --> 00:06:22,719 Speaker 4: I felt like I needed a smoke after that interview, 114 00:06:22,800 --> 00:06:23,680 Speaker 4: to be honest with you. 115 00:06:24,360 --> 00:06:27,600 Speaker 5: After it was a little eerie, but yeah, that's great. Yeah, 116 00:06:27,640 --> 00:06:30,440 Speaker 5: a little weird, but that's fine. I don't know if 117 00:06:30,440 --> 00:06:32,720 Speaker 5: I necessarily felt the same way, but I'm glad you did. 118 00:06:32,839 --> 00:06:35,440 Speaker 4: I just don't get to see you very often, and 119 00:06:35,480 --> 00:06:38,320 Speaker 4: when I do, it gets maybe a little creepy. I 120 00:06:38,320 --> 00:06:40,240 Speaker 4: don't know, but it is. Kevin May. 121 00:06:40,320 --> 00:06:42,440 Speaker 5: We love each other man, You're You're the I love 122 00:06:42,480 --> 00:06:45,359 Speaker 5: being on with you, and I'm this station and a 123 00:06:45,400 --> 00:06:49,360 Speaker 5: part of that community from a distance. And uh, I'd 124 00:06:49,360 --> 00:06:53,360 Speaker 5: be lying if I didn't say that our weekly conversations 125 00:06:53,960 --> 00:06:57,719 Speaker 5: and the association just with that city and the station 126 00:06:58,160 --> 00:07:02,560 Speaker 5: and and Brad, we're twin peaks. If you know, deep 127 00:07:02,640 --> 00:07:05,040 Speaker 5: down you don't feel like you know these are good people, 128 00:07:05,160 --> 00:07:08,919 Speaker 5: and it's it's nice to be associated in life with 129 00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:12,360 Speaker 5: people that are better than you. Firs and I always 130 00:07:12,400 --> 00:07:15,240 Speaker 5: feel that when we talk clearly, but just in the 131 00:07:15,400 --> 00:07:18,640 Speaker 5: entire community, it was real fun. Now I wasn't rooting 132 00:07:18,640 --> 00:07:21,600 Speaker 5: for anybody, but in your heart you say, you know what, 133 00:07:21,840 --> 00:07:24,040 Speaker 5: good for them. I'm glad it worked out to leave you. 134 00:07:24,480 --> 00:07:26,560 Speaker 4: Well, I just hope we don't have to wait another 135 00:07:26,640 --> 00:07:29,240 Speaker 4: thirty four years like we did between the Sonics and 136 00:07:29,280 --> 00:07:31,960 Speaker 4: the twenty thirteen team. And that's what kind of makes 137 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:35,160 Speaker 4: this interesting, man, is that now I feel like Seattle, 138 00:07:35,320 --> 00:07:37,600 Speaker 4: the Seahawks at least are kind of on the map 139 00:07:37,640 --> 00:07:40,080 Speaker 4: and you know home. Grin was on the postgame show 140 00:07:40,440 --> 00:07:43,640 Speaker 4: with Dick Kevin on Sunday night Mike Holmgren, and he 141 00:07:43,760 --> 00:07:47,640 Speaker 4: thinks the NFL will maybe start looking at Seattle as 142 00:07:47,800 --> 00:07:51,800 Speaker 4: people do the Niners and the Dallas Cowboys and Kansas City. 143 00:07:51,880 --> 00:07:54,320 Speaker 4: That there's only been two teams that have been there 144 00:07:54,320 --> 00:07:56,560 Speaker 4: more in the last twenty years, and that's Brady and 145 00:07:56,600 --> 00:08:00,240 Speaker 4: the Patriots and Mahomes in Kansas City. I mean, what 146 00:08:00,400 --> 00:08:02,680 Speaker 4: is the You've been around the NFL a long time, 147 00:08:03,080 --> 00:08:06,200 Speaker 4: you know how much this franchise has grown. What is 148 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:09,760 Speaker 4: the perception about this franchise now compared to let's say, 149 00:08:09,960 --> 00:08:11,880 Speaker 4: I don't know, maybe in the eighties and nineties. 150 00:08:13,240 --> 00:08:16,920 Speaker 5: You know, it's weird because the West Coast never really 151 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:20,360 Speaker 5: gets Probably what they deserve. I would tell you that 152 00:08:20,400 --> 00:08:24,559 Speaker 5: when Montana and Young and Walsh and Seaffert we're winning 153 00:08:24,600 --> 00:08:28,760 Speaker 5: those championships with the dynastic eighties that they had in 154 00:08:28,800 --> 00:08:32,719 Speaker 5: San Francisco, that they may have broken that mold a 155 00:08:32,720 --> 00:08:35,520 Speaker 5: little bit. The Lakers with Kobe and Shaq and Magic 156 00:08:35,600 --> 00:08:39,320 Speaker 5: and Kareem right probably broke it a little bit. It's 157 00:08:39,320 --> 00:08:42,440 Speaker 5: interesting how the West Coast is perceived because of the 158 00:08:42,440 --> 00:08:46,600 Speaker 5: time difference, and only because of the time difference. But 159 00:08:46,720 --> 00:08:49,600 Speaker 5: the truth of the matter is in the NBA and 160 00:08:49,600 --> 00:08:53,440 Speaker 5: now in the NFL, we've got dominant franchises out there, 161 00:08:53,559 --> 00:08:55,840 Speaker 5: two from the same division, you guys, and the Niners. 162 00:08:56,120 --> 00:08:57,760 Speaker 5: And by the way, the Rams won the Super Bowl 163 00:08:57,800 --> 00:09:00,400 Speaker 5: a couple of years ago right in Los Angele Julius. 164 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:05,000 Speaker 5: So really, the only thing is the only difference is 165 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:09,400 Speaker 5: is the time thing. You know, the PAC twelve dismantling 166 00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:13,680 Speaker 5: and then rebuild has been a complicated story. But and 167 00:09:13,720 --> 00:09:16,760 Speaker 5: the Big Ten now dealing with some carryover from that 168 00:09:16,920 --> 00:09:20,480 Speaker 5: conference to it, and the time difference is constantly thrown 169 00:09:20,480 --> 00:09:22,640 Speaker 5: out there. So I guess I would say this, and 170 00:09:22,679 --> 00:09:24,520 Speaker 5: this is something that's not new to your sports fan 171 00:09:24,559 --> 00:09:27,880 Speaker 5: out there, is that you're right the West Coast team 172 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:31,400 Speaker 5: Seahawks right there at the top of that probably don't 173 00:09:31,400 --> 00:09:34,600 Speaker 5: get the credit they deserve because so much is tilted 174 00:09:34,640 --> 00:09:38,040 Speaker 5: to the east, to the southeast, maybe to the Midwest. 175 00:09:38,040 --> 00:09:40,360 Speaker 5: And then after that it's kind of like, well they're 176 00:09:40,400 --> 00:09:42,760 Speaker 5: two hours and back, they're three hours and back. And 177 00:09:42,840 --> 00:09:45,640 Speaker 5: it does it changes the perception when the games are on. 178 00:09:46,280 --> 00:09:48,800 Speaker 5: These are things you talked about for years. It's not 179 00:09:48,920 --> 00:09:51,040 Speaker 5: new ground, but I think that adds a little bit 180 00:09:51,080 --> 00:09:55,079 Speaker 5: to why maybe teams but that being said, when home 181 00:09:55,160 --> 00:09:58,400 Speaker 5: runs started and Pete Carroll continued, now Mike McDonald is 182 00:09:58,440 --> 00:10:03,439 Speaker 5: doing that job, those coaches, what that team has done 183 00:10:04,320 --> 00:10:06,560 Speaker 5: three Super Bowls since that, you know, since over the 184 00:10:06,600 --> 00:10:09,920 Speaker 5: last what ten, eleven, twelve years, like these have been 185 00:10:10,520 --> 00:10:13,920 Speaker 5: like some of the best teams in Pro football. And 186 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:16,240 Speaker 5: you're right now now that the ownership thing is going 187 00:10:16,280 --> 00:10:19,600 Speaker 5: to get interesting too, quite frankly because of the Allen family, 188 00:10:19,640 --> 00:10:22,200 Speaker 5: beginning with Paul and now his sister, Like it is 189 00:10:22,280 --> 00:10:27,680 Speaker 5: interesting how a Super Bowl champion, you know, supposedly allegedly 190 00:10:27,800 --> 00:10:31,000 Speaker 5: reportedly is up for sale and now will she feels 191 00:10:31,040 --> 00:10:34,360 Speaker 5: different afterwards? Who knows, But it looks like that's where 192 00:10:34,400 --> 00:10:38,560 Speaker 5: they're trending and and so you know, again just kind 193 00:10:38,559 --> 00:10:41,200 Speaker 5: of more of a fluid story than than something that ends. 194 00:10:41,120 --> 00:10:45,360 Speaker 4: A period, right, and that that Jody Allen's story. Paul 195 00:10:45,400 --> 00:10:48,400 Speaker 4: Allen and his will had made it clear that upon 196 00:10:48,480 --> 00:10:53,000 Speaker 4: his death everything had to be liquidated. The Seahawks, the Blazers, 197 00:10:53,160 --> 00:10:56,000 Speaker 4: the yachts, the artwork, everything has to go. 198 00:10:56,679 --> 00:10:56,839 Speaker 5: Now. 199 00:10:56,880 --> 00:10:59,120 Speaker 4: The only question is how long can Jody hang on 200 00:10:59,200 --> 00:11:00,920 Speaker 4: to it for? How long does she want to hang 201 00:11:00,920 --> 00:11:03,520 Speaker 4: on to it for before she sells the team? And 202 00:11:03,559 --> 00:11:07,400 Speaker 4: that is I mean, that's a potentially scary situation because 203 00:11:07,400 --> 00:11:11,200 Speaker 4: once the Allens took over, everything changed for this franchise. 204 00:11:11,280 --> 00:11:13,679 Speaker 4: And you know, as long as John Schneider's here, you 205 00:11:13,720 --> 00:11:15,680 Speaker 4: would think they're in good company. And I would just 206 00:11:15,760 --> 00:11:18,200 Speaker 4: ask you this. I mean, you've met and you've known 207 00:11:18,240 --> 00:11:21,520 Speaker 4: some of the great executives in the history of the NFL, Right, 208 00:11:21,559 --> 00:11:24,520 Speaker 4: I mean you Bobby Bethard, Bill Polly, and Ozzie Newsom, 209 00:11:24,600 --> 00:11:27,520 Speaker 4: for example, Where does John Schneider sit for you now, 210 00:11:27,559 --> 00:11:32,040 Speaker 4: with two titles, with two different coaches, two totally different rosters, 211 00:11:32,320 --> 00:11:36,120 Speaker 4: twelve years apart, where does John Schneider sit on the 212 00:11:36,160 --> 00:11:38,800 Speaker 4: list of the all time great executives? In this league. 213 00:11:39,600 --> 00:11:42,199 Speaker 5: Well, I think once you've won two, and you've done 214 00:11:42,200 --> 00:11:45,360 Speaker 5: it now with two different coaches, two different quarterbacks, two 215 00:11:45,440 --> 00:11:51,600 Speaker 5: different teams, it probably seals them. In my mind. I 216 00:11:51,640 --> 00:11:55,640 Speaker 5: think anybody that follows this game knows how difficult it 217 00:11:55,840 --> 00:11:59,320 Speaker 5: is to do not with just the same cast every year. 218 00:11:59,800 --> 00:12:02,679 Speaker 5: But he's done it now at two different spots in 219 00:12:02,720 --> 00:12:06,960 Speaker 5: his career and with two different coaches and two different rosters. 220 00:12:07,360 --> 00:12:11,520 Speaker 5: That's hard, that's really really hard. But he's done it, 221 00:12:11,679 --> 00:12:15,200 Speaker 5: and I don't think there's any way around it. What 222 00:12:15,320 --> 00:12:18,360 Speaker 5: he's done, how he's done it, and what I think 223 00:12:18,520 --> 00:12:21,720 Speaker 5: enhances the story. He's a disciple of a guy who's 224 00:12:21,720 --> 00:12:25,040 Speaker 5: already in Canton with a Hall of Fame jacket, and 225 00:12:25,080 --> 00:12:29,679 Speaker 5: that's Ron Wolf. So if he's not on that road 226 00:12:29,800 --> 00:12:33,920 Speaker 5: and just maybe one stop away from his destination, in 227 00:12:33,920 --> 00:12:37,080 Speaker 5: my mind, he's already in. He's got a lot left 228 00:12:37,120 --> 00:12:39,000 Speaker 5: of him. By the way I mean this is, you 229 00:12:39,120 --> 00:12:41,200 Speaker 5: got a young coach and a young quarterback and a 230 00:12:41,240 --> 00:12:43,640 Speaker 5: young team for the most part around and the way 231 00:12:43,679 --> 00:12:46,760 Speaker 5: he replenishes that roster. Yeah, you may be on chapter 232 00:12:46,840 --> 00:12:51,199 Speaker 5: three of a ten chapter book, so listen, I don't 233 00:12:51,200 --> 00:12:54,080 Speaker 5: think we're ready to put a period, but rather a comma. 234 00:12:54,360 --> 00:12:57,160 Speaker 5: This guy is continuing and he is young enough to 235 00:12:57,240 --> 00:13:01,160 Speaker 5: keep going. I had, you know, the kind of respect 236 00:13:01,280 --> 00:13:05,440 Speaker 5: I have for him, But that organization now can be 237 00:13:05,520 --> 00:13:09,000 Speaker 5: You know how they had the blue bloods in college basketball? 238 00:13:09,040 --> 00:13:11,760 Speaker 5: We always talk about Kansas and Carolina and Indiana and 239 00:13:11,880 --> 00:13:15,880 Speaker 5: U Cola if you can ye North Carolina. Well, I 240 00:13:15,880 --> 00:13:18,560 Speaker 5: if you're going to talk about blue bloods, even though 241 00:13:18,559 --> 00:13:21,960 Speaker 5: they're relatively new the team compared to like the Packers 242 00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:25,840 Speaker 5: of Affairs, you'd have to put the Seattle Seahawks in 243 00:13:25,840 --> 00:13:30,079 Speaker 5: that category with the Niners, Steelers, Cowboys, Packers, you know, 244 00:13:30,160 --> 00:13:33,200 Speaker 5: I mean, Chiefs now clearly are in that category. I mean, 245 00:13:33,240 --> 00:13:36,960 Speaker 5: it's not more than five six seven teams, and I 246 00:13:36,960 --> 00:13:40,000 Speaker 5: don't know how you couldn't include the Seahawks. And modern 247 00:13:40,040 --> 00:13:42,600 Speaker 5: day football is one of those teams with what they've done. 248 00:13:42,679 --> 00:13:45,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, Kevin, you mentioned Kenny Walker in the game. He 249 00:13:45,800 --> 00:13:50,320 Speaker 4: had one hundred and sixty one total yards MVP. Did 250 00:13:50,360 --> 00:13:53,880 Speaker 4: the right guy though, win the MVP? I mean Jason Yeah, yeah, yeah, 251 00:13:53,920 --> 00:13:56,640 Speaker 4: yeah jah. Some Myers goes out and sets a record. 252 00:13:57,520 --> 00:14:00,480 Speaker 5: I know, I know it wasn't in a bunch of 253 00:14:00,559 --> 00:14:03,720 Speaker 5: fifty yard field goals, but there were field goals he 254 00:14:03,800 --> 00:14:07,080 Speaker 5: hit and every extra point he hit. He was spectacular, 255 00:14:07,160 --> 00:14:08,800 Speaker 5: and he's going to go down in history. He's set 256 00:14:08,800 --> 00:14:12,560 Speaker 5: in the record, and he should. And those field goals 257 00:14:12,559 --> 00:14:16,040 Speaker 5: were big. They were, and you can label them or 258 00:14:16,240 --> 00:14:18,080 Speaker 5: you put them in any kind of category you want. 259 00:14:18,679 --> 00:14:21,920 Speaker 5: But the key to that win, sustaining drives, coming up 260 00:14:21,960 --> 00:14:25,240 Speaker 5: with explosive plays, doing what he had to do was Walker. 261 00:14:25,800 --> 00:14:28,600 Speaker 5: In my mind, no doubt. Listen, had it been a 262 00:14:28,640 --> 00:14:32,600 Speaker 5: defensive game, Christian Gonzalez would have wanted in the secondary 263 00:14:32,600 --> 00:14:35,760 Speaker 5: for New England. He was that good. Yeah, he was, 264 00:14:35,800 --> 00:14:40,160 Speaker 5: in fact, one of the best defensive backed performances I've 265 00:14:40,200 --> 00:14:43,600 Speaker 5: ever seen in the Super Bowl. He was phenomenal. Broke 266 00:14:43,680 --> 00:14:45,680 Speaker 5: up three plays in my mind that I can recall 267 00:14:45,760 --> 00:14:48,560 Speaker 5: now and probably was on coverage and did other things 268 00:14:48,560 --> 00:14:51,320 Speaker 5: and other plays that we're not talking about, but he 269 00:14:51,480 --> 00:14:55,080 Speaker 5: was on Jackson, he held him in check, came up 270 00:14:55,120 --> 00:14:58,000 Speaker 5: with a couple of plays that were significant earlier in 271 00:14:58,040 --> 00:15:01,680 Speaker 5: the game. I can't say enough about his performance, but no, 272 00:15:01,840 --> 00:15:05,240 Speaker 5: Walker was the guy. He deserved it. One of the 273 00:15:05,280 --> 00:15:10,040 Speaker 5: great running back performances in Super Bowl history. He was 274 00:15:10,080 --> 00:15:13,920 Speaker 5: the guy in a winning cause and he deserved it, Kevin. 275 00:15:13,680 --> 00:15:17,400 Speaker 4: I'm just curious. During the game, everybody wants to know, 276 00:15:17,880 --> 00:15:21,440 Speaker 4: did you or did you not recognize the streaker on 277 00:15:21,520 --> 00:15:21,960 Speaker 4: the field. 278 00:15:23,360 --> 00:15:25,880 Speaker 5: Uh no, I say, I told people I was done 279 00:15:25,880 --> 00:15:29,200 Speaker 5: with that stuff, and I'm trying to keep my keep. 280 00:15:29,440 --> 00:15:33,200 Speaker 5: I mentioned him, I mentioned him, I said, I said 281 00:15:33,240 --> 00:15:38,320 Speaker 5: he would be he was being detained. Because now before 282 00:15:38,520 --> 00:15:41,320 Speaker 5: it always kind of felt like kind of a goofy, 283 00:15:41,480 --> 00:15:45,880 Speaker 5: fun maybe intoxicated thing that was going on and maybe 284 00:15:46,080 --> 00:15:50,640 Speaker 5: without a lot of harm, you know, really, now now 285 00:15:50,680 --> 00:15:55,920 Speaker 5: there are prop bets, there are messages and political causes, 286 00:15:56,240 --> 00:15:59,600 Speaker 5: and like now it's gotten complicated. So now I'm done 287 00:15:59,640 --> 00:16:02,240 Speaker 5: with that. I kind of feel that, like maybe I 288 00:16:02,320 --> 00:16:05,360 Speaker 5: did it when it was still kind of a funny, 289 00:16:05,600 --> 00:16:10,720 Speaker 5: goofy thing to do and right, but now no, no, no, no, no, 290 00:16:10,760 --> 00:16:13,040 Speaker 5: we don't do it anyway. Mentioned it because there's a 291 00:16:13,080 --> 00:16:16,720 Speaker 5: stoppage in play and it's got to be mentioned, but 292 00:16:16,800 --> 00:16:17,680 Speaker 5: not a lot of detail. 293 00:16:17,760 --> 00:16:19,480 Speaker 4: No, I don't know if you noticed this or not, 294 00:16:19,560 --> 00:16:21,400 Speaker 4: but there was one of the security guys on the 295 00:16:21,400 --> 00:16:23,600 Speaker 4: field that ran after him that had a hell of 296 00:16:23,600 --> 00:16:25,520 Speaker 4: a time getting off the field. I think the guy 297 00:16:25,600 --> 00:16:30,680 Speaker 4: may have blown an acl or ripped a ground, he 298 00:16:30,880 --> 00:16:33,480 Speaker 4: was stumbling around trying to get back to the sideline. 299 00:16:33,520 --> 00:16:36,640 Speaker 4: The whole stadium gave the guy a standing ovation when 300 00:16:36,640 --> 00:16:38,920 Speaker 4: he got back. Well, you mentioned that there, Kevin a 301 00:16:38,920 --> 00:16:41,520 Speaker 4: few minutes ago. You know the reason why this one 302 00:16:41,560 --> 00:16:45,440 Speaker 4: for me is special two reasons. Number one, because you 303 00:16:45,480 --> 00:16:48,360 Speaker 4: beat the Patriots who ripped your guts out eleven years ago, 304 00:16:48,440 --> 00:16:51,640 Speaker 4: obviously in Arizona. And the thing about that game for me, 305 00:16:51,880 --> 00:16:53,880 Speaker 4: and I think I've told you this. I was there 306 00:16:53,880 --> 00:16:56,040 Speaker 4: with my wife and my mom and dad had a 307 00:16:56,120 --> 00:16:58,800 Speaker 4: chance to go back to back. You leave the stadium thinking, well, 308 00:16:58,800 --> 00:17:00,520 Speaker 4: that's it. I'll never get a chance to go back 309 00:17:00,520 --> 00:17:03,120 Speaker 4: to back ever again as a fan, And I think 310 00:17:03,200 --> 00:17:07,720 Speaker 4: this team has me thinking that they might have a chance. 311 00:17:07,800 --> 00:17:11,239 Speaker 4: I mean, obviously Mahomes and Alan Lamar. We'll see what 312 00:17:11,280 --> 00:17:13,960 Speaker 4: happens with those guys next season. A lot of parody 313 00:17:13,960 --> 00:17:18,160 Speaker 4: in the NFL this year. You said it yourself, chapter 314 00:17:18,160 --> 00:17:21,879 Speaker 4: three of a ten chapter book for this Seahawks football team. 315 00:17:22,200 --> 00:17:24,199 Speaker 4: Where would you put these guys on the list of 316 00:17:24,480 --> 00:17:27,200 Speaker 4: potential repeat winners next season? 317 00:17:28,280 --> 00:17:33,760 Speaker 5: Well, depending on what free agency brings to you, what 318 00:17:33,960 --> 00:17:39,840 Speaker 5: free agency costs you, and how they draft see as 319 00:17:39,880 --> 00:17:42,520 Speaker 5: a fan, I'm thinking, well, I got the best general 320 00:17:42,560 --> 00:17:47,600 Speaker 5: manager who's picking trading, moving signing, letting guys walk. I 321 00:17:47,640 --> 00:17:50,040 Speaker 5: got the best guy in the business, So why do 322 00:17:50,119 --> 00:17:52,639 Speaker 5: I shit and watch him? And Beach in Kansas City, 323 00:17:53,200 --> 00:17:55,959 Speaker 5: maybe Sneid in Los Angeles. I mean, it's a handful 324 00:17:56,000 --> 00:17:59,200 Speaker 5: of guys that really stick out, and John maybe at 325 00:17:59,200 --> 00:18:01,600 Speaker 5: the top of the list. I'm telling you, I just 326 00:18:01,680 --> 00:18:05,840 Speaker 5: think that that I'm you know, so confident in the 327 00:18:05,840 --> 00:18:08,320 Speaker 5: way they'll construct it. Yeah, I have no doubt that 328 00:18:08,400 --> 00:18:10,800 Speaker 5: the coach and the and the and that uh you know, 329 00:18:10,880 --> 00:18:14,080 Speaker 5: personnel group of John's are on the same page, which 330 00:18:14,119 --> 00:18:16,359 Speaker 5: is a huge thing. By the way, you can't you 331 00:18:16,400 --> 00:18:18,879 Speaker 5: can't have the coaching staff, the head coach in particular, 332 00:18:18,920 --> 00:18:22,240 Speaker 5: think in one way, and and then and then the 333 00:18:22,280 --> 00:18:25,280 Speaker 5: front office doing something mell So they're they're they're they're 334 00:18:25,320 --> 00:18:28,760 Speaker 5: clearly at the hip connected and and and that always 335 00:18:28,840 --> 00:18:33,120 Speaker 5: vodes well. So yeah, but but listen, when you think 336 00:18:33,119 --> 00:18:36,000 Speaker 5: about what this has been, and you think about what 337 00:18:36,160 --> 00:18:39,560 Speaker 5: happened not in the two distant paths, think about the 338 00:18:39,600 --> 00:18:43,800 Speaker 5: Buffalo Bills, Think about the Bills with that quarterback. Think 339 00:18:43,840 --> 00:18:46,600 Speaker 5: about the Bills and how good they've been in that 340 00:18:46,680 --> 00:18:49,720 Speaker 5: division in the a f C. And they've never been 341 00:18:50,200 --> 00:18:53,120 Speaker 5: and they've got the quarterback. So when you say, hey, 342 00:18:53,119 --> 00:18:56,280 Speaker 5: we got Darnold, this is gonna you take nothing for granted. 343 00:18:56,440 --> 00:18:58,480 Speaker 5: And they're saying that in Kansas City after this year, 344 00:18:58,480 --> 00:19:01,560 Speaker 5: in a six win season, the quarterback blue as ACL 345 00:19:01,720 --> 00:19:06,760 Speaker 5: and a mco Right, I mean, like now a dynasty 346 00:19:06,920 --> 00:19:10,840 Speaker 5: that was clearly in place with a second act coming 347 00:19:10,920 --> 00:19:13,760 Speaker 5: up in a two act play. Now you're wondering the 348 00:19:13,880 --> 00:19:16,399 Speaker 5: quarterback is going to be thirty coming off a blown 349 00:19:16,440 --> 00:19:21,760 Speaker 5: knee head coaches sixty six. You know, maybe is a 350 00:19:21,800 --> 00:19:24,880 Speaker 5: little bit of fatigue in all parts of the fandom 351 00:19:24,960 --> 00:19:27,639 Speaker 5: and maybe in the organization of trying to deal with 352 00:19:27,680 --> 00:19:30,959 Speaker 5: a highly paid quarterback, not a lot of cap space, 353 00:19:31,359 --> 00:19:35,119 Speaker 5: a lot of guys wanting big money. Maybe taking a 354 00:19:35,160 --> 00:19:38,960 Speaker 5: little bit of their pressure off the gas. You know. 355 00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:41,200 Speaker 5: Maybe you know you're a different team and that will 356 00:19:41,200 --> 00:19:42,959 Speaker 5: be you know, some of the things that Mike has 357 00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:46,200 Speaker 5: got a battle. You know, because even though that name 358 00:19:46,280 --> 00:19:50,320 Speaker 5: plate says the same name, colors and uniform, number of 359 00:19:50,400 --> 00:19:52,840 Speaker 5: the guys that played a couple of days ago in 360 00:19:52,880 --> 00:19:55,640 Speaker 5: the Bay Area, it's not the same team. Now they're 361 00:19:55,680 --> 00:19:59,439 Speaker 5: higher paid. Now they've got more endorsement. Now they're a champion. Like, 362 00:19:59,520 --> 00:20:02,280 Speaker 5: now you've got deal with all the things in defending 363 00:20:02,280 --> 00:20:04,200 Speaker 5: a championship, and it's different. You've got an next time 364 00:20:04,200 --> 00:20:06,440 Speaker 5: your back, you're the target, You're the biggest game on 365 00:20:06,520 --> 00:20:09,639 Speaker 5: everybody's schedule. The World champs are coming into play. So 366 00:20:09,800 --> 00:20:12,119 Speaker 5: even you may you may have the same roster, but 367 00:20:12,160 --> 00:20:16,000 Speaker 5: you've got a whole different set of circumstances you've got 368 00:20:16,040 --> 00:20:18,800 Speaker 5: to deal with. And that becomes that's it, right, That's 369 00:20:18,880 --> 00:20:20,880 Speaker 5: that's the game you got to play. And that's what 370 00:20:21,240 --> 00:20:24,639 Speaker 5: Mike McDonald is going to go through beginning Monday morning, 371 00:20:24,960 --> 00:20:26,280 Speaker 5: and what they're going to face when they go to 372 00:20:26,320 --> 00:20:28,040 Speaker 5: the combine and when they go to the draft and 373 00:20:28,040 --> 00:20:31,560 Speaker 5: when free agency opens and all these things now take hold. 374 00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:34,239 Speaker 5: How do the current winners handle it? What are they 375 00:20:34,280 --> 00:20:36,399 Speaker 5: looking for? Can they come back as hungry, you know, 376 00:20:36,440 --> 00:20:39,120 Speaker 5: I just as hungry as they were this season? Can 377 00:20:39,200 --> 00:20:42,200 Speaker 5: can all these things align again and get them to 378 00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:44,560 Speaker 5: where they want to go in LA next February? Right? 379 00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:47,280 Speaker 4: And relatively healthy as well? This year? 380 00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:50,920 Speaker 5: I know, well said, yet nothing nothing catastrophic, right, Like 381 00:20:51,320 --> 00:20:54,120 Speaker 5: some teams got the big injury and they couldn't come 382 00:20:54,160 --> 00:20:56,920 Speaker 5: back and San Francisco faced that they had a hell 383 00:20:56,920 --> 00:21:00,879 Speaker 5: of a season and they played incredibly well, but you 384 00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:04,200 Speaker 5: knew that you cannot lose two pillars of your defense 385 00:21:04,560 --> 00:21:06,600 Speaker 5: and others along the way. And put I open there. 386 00:21:06,600 --> 00:21:09,000 Speaker 5: You can put Deebo, Samuel who left went the can, 387 00:21:09,119 --> 00:21:11,399 Speaker 5: put all those names in there. What they were is 388 00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:15,119 Speaker 5: not what they became. And it was remarkable of what 389 00:21:15,160 --> 00:21:17,879 Speaker 5: they achieved. But eventually it catches up with you. It 390 00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:20,840 Speaker 5: always does. It always catches up with you, and it 391 00:21:20,920 --> 00:21:22,840 Speaker 5: catched up with San Francisco. 392 00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:24,359 Speaker 4: No, no doubt. Well one of those guys, real quick, 393 00:21:24,400 --> 00:21:26,719 Speaker 4: Kenny Walker is a free agent. They can tag him 394 00:21:26,760 --> 00:21:30,040 Speaker 4: for about fourteen million for next year. I don't know. 395 00:21:30,119 --> 00:21:32,480 Speaker 4: I mean, it's hard to imagine this guy not being 396 00:21:32,520 --> 00:21:36,320 Speaker 4: on the team, especially with Sharbonney's injury. How far, real Quick, Kevin, 397 00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:39,440 Speaker 4: would you go to keep Kenny Walker on this football 398 00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:40,200 Speaker 4: team next year? 399 00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:45,000 Speaker 5: I guess I would. I would definitely take into consideration 400 00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:49,040 Speaker 5: the Super Bowl performance because that was his store. But 401 00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:52,520 Speaker 5: what these coaches will take into consideration are a variety 402 00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:56,320 Speaker 5: of things, and I kid you, not the one thing 403 00:21:56,400 --> 00:22:00,080 Speaker 5: that will stand out. He handled the extra load when 404 00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:04,320 Speaker 5: Charbonay was injured out, he handled the extra workload, all 405 00:22:04,359 --> 00:22:08,439 Speaker 5: those things. But they know how he's wired. They know 406 00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:11,480 Speaker 5: the kind of person he is. They know his work habits, 407 00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:14,600 Speaker 5: his study habits, how he keeps his body in shape. 408 00:22:14,840 --> 00:22:16,840 Speaker 5: What kind of guy he is away from the facility, 409 00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:19,399 Speaker 5: what kind of guy he is in the facility. Those 410 00:22:19,600 --> 00:22:23,480 Speaker 5: things add up. And if he's checked every box, if 411 00:22:23,520 --> 00:22:27,640 Speaker 5: he's the consummate pro, if he's always studied beyond what 412 00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:31,360 Speaker 5: is required, is he a great teammate? Like these are 413 00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:34,560 Speaker 5: things that will warrant a fourteen million dollar or whatever 414 00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:38,359 Speaker 5: he's looking for in his contract, that will that will 415 00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:44,159 Speaker 5: dictate almost as much as what he did Sunday in 416 00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:47,880 Speaker 5: Santa Clara. I know it sounds weird, but that position, 417 00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:51,640 Speaker 5: as we've seen, you can go out and get guys. Now, 418 00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:54,320 Speaker 5: he's not a guy. He is a special running back. 419 00:22:54,720 --> 00:22:58,240 Speaker 5: But when you're looking at the overall body of your offense, 420 00:22:58,680 --> 00:23:01,399 Speaker 5: you've got to consider everything. The importance of the left tackle. 421 00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:04,320 Speaker 5: The quarterback is going to be wanting some more down 422 00:23:04,359 --> 00:23:07,280 Speaker 5: the road, Smith and Jigba is going to require a 423 00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:10,359 Speaker 5: big money thing down the road like you've taken. And 424 00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:13,280 Speaker 5: that's what John Man's staff is doing. Probably as we speak, 425 00:23:13,480 --> 00:23:16,160 Speaker 5: looking at what you've got coming up next year, what's two, 426 00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:18,560 Speaker 5: what's three years down the road? How do we get 427 00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:22,520 Speaker 5: this thing to continue on this rail? And that will 428 00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:25,719 Speaker 5: have to be discussed on first Blush to say, absolutely, 429 00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:27,880 Speaker 5: give him what he wants. But is he the kind 430 00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:30,000 Speaker 5: of guy? And we've seen this, not with just running back, 431 00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:32,639 Speaker 5: but a lot of positions. When these guys have the 432 00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:36,000 Speaker 5: big game, they cash in, they get the money. They're 433 00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:38,560 Speaker 5: never Ezekiel Elliott like. I go right on down the 434 00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:41,800 Speaker 5: list of guys like, there are hundreds of them that 435 00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:45,520 Speaker 5: have the great game, the big season, they get the contract, 436 00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:48,480 Speaker 5: and they're they're just like nothing. Right. I don't think 437 00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:51,000 Speaker 5: Walker's like that. But I'm not with him every day 438 00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:53,480 Speaker 5: in practice. I don't travel with them. I don't watch 439 00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:55,919 Speaker 5: them study, I don't watch them practice. I don't know. 440 00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:58,840 Speaker 5: Those coaches know, I don't know, don't we don't know. 441 00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:00,960 Speaker 5: So they'll make the decision in the right world. 442 00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:03,800 Speaker 4: Well, the only concern is the health. I mean, knock 443 00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:06,680 Speaker 4: on Wood was good this year, but for the first 444 00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:08,800 Speaker 4: three years it was up and down with him. So 445 00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:11,800 Speaker 4: all right, listen, man, great stuff, dude, Great to see 446 00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:14,760 Speaker 4: a Friday. Incredible call by you and Curt and company 447 00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:18,159 Speaker 4: on Sunday as well. We're gonna be replaying those highlights forever. 448 00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:20,360 Speaker 4: We'll probably have to update your open by the way 449 00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:23,720 Speaker 4: with some new highlights from from this year. But awesome job, 450 00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:27,760 Speaker 4: do it. Love having you on. Go enjoy basketball the 451 00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:29,719 Speaker 4: rest of the way and we'll catch up soon. All right. 452 00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:34,879 Speaker 5: Man, Hey, my professional honor to be with you every 453 00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:38,359 Speaker 5: week and be on this terrific station and talk to 454 00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:40,959 Speaker 5: your great fans. And they're right as McDonald and everybody 455 00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:43,639 Speaker 5: else said, what about twelve? How about twelve? Look at 456 00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:46,119 Speaker 5: what twelve did for them so long this journey, and 457 00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:49,280 Speaker 5: I would agree to talk to that fan base is 458 00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:52,720 Speaker 5: a privilege by myself and I look forward to it 459 00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:56,080 Speaker 5: every Wednesday when we visit. And hopefully parade was great 460 00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:59,200 Speaker 5: and safe for everybody today, yep. And it's just nice 461 00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:02,360 Speaker 5: to be with you talking about what was a championship 462 00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:03,879 Speaker 5: season for the Seahawks. 463 00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:07,200 Speaker 4: You're the man, great stuff. Love you, Able to talk soon, buddy, Thanks. 464 00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:09,320 Speaker 5: Pal, take care, Dave, Thank you so so much. 465 00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:12,919 Speaker 4: All right, Kevin Harlan with us the parade mayn what 466 00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:15,840 Speaker 4: a sight that was today. We're gonna give you everything 467 00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:18,760 Speaker 4: you miss coming up at six pm tonight. Baby right 468 00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:22,520 Speaker 4: here on ninety three to three KJRFM. We never waver Man, 469 00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:24,800 Speaker 4: we believe in each other, We love each other. Now 470 00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:28,440 Speaker 4: we're world Championship. Back to Sufdian Dick on your home 471 00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:30,680 Speaker 4: for the twelfth man. We got the best fans in 472 00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:31,159 Speaker 4: the world. 473 00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:35,240 Speaker 3: Twelve Sports Radio, ninety three point three kjr FM. 474 00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:38,000 Speaker 2: Hey sat up to the twelve A three and sixteen 475 00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:41,840 Speaker 2: Seattle first and ten leading twelve nothing. Donald unders center 476 00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:44,840 Speaker 2: five on the defensive line. He gets the stats, turn right, 477 00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:47,280 Speaker 2: picks the hand up. Here comes to blitzfields, the prowling 478 00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:53,520 Speaker 2: those pot touchdown pt touchdown Bernal, the tight end hold 479 00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:55,560 Speaker 2: on the shoulder, caps in the corner of the n 480 00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:59,280 Speaker 2: zone and we've got our first touchdown. 481 00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:07,240 Speaker 4: Of super great stuff from Kevin Harden. Last segment Man 482 00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:11,960 Speaker 4: with us all football season long, courtesy of our pals 483 00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:14,440 Speaker 4: at Twin Peaks took Willa. Sure we'll have him on 484 00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:17,400 Speaker 4: at some point talking some college basketball, some NBA. Yeah, 485 00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:19,440 Speaker 4: his job is not done. He's going right to the 486 00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:22,119 Speaker 4: NBA and then right to the NCAA tournament and then 487 00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:22,919 Speaker 4: right to vacation. 488 00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:23,239 Speaker 2: Right. 489 00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:25,960 Speaker 4: There's nobody in this business, by the way, who goes 490 00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:29,120 Speaker 4: more a wall than Kevin Harlan the minute the East 491 00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:32,120 Speaker 4: Western Conference Finals comes to an end. He should he's 492 00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:36,320 Speaker 4: because he goes nine months hard. Like I could literally 493 00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:40,119 Speaker 4: text him and say, hey, text me back and I 494 00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:43,240 Speaker 4: will tell you where fifteen million dollars is buried in 495 00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:45,480 Speaker 4: your backyard and I will not hear from the guy 496 00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:49,080 Speaker 4: for three months. I'm serious. It's amazing. So the parade 497 00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:53,320 Speaker 4: today was awesome. The trophy ceremony, you were there, Dick, 498 00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:55,879 Speaker 4: it was incredible. We're gonna have a bunch of that 499 00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:58,480 Speaker 4: coming up for you in the six pm hour tonight. 500 00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:02,080 Speaker 4: How about Jackson Smith and Jigba Right, going back to 501 00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:06,880 Speaker 4: the trophy ceremony this morning, JSN at the podium addressing 502 00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:07,600 Speaker 4: the crowd. 503 00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:17,439 Speaker 7: SEO, see see we're the best in the world. 504 00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:26,760 Speaker 8: Hey, best in the world, Sam Donald, Mike McDonald, it 505 00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:29,800 Speaker 8: don't matter best deep, best in the world. 506 00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:34,560 Speaker 4: We have one goal and that was to bring us home. 507 00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:36,960 Speaker 4: And that's all we did to the best bets of 508 00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:37,440 Speaker 4: the world. 509 00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:39,040 Speaker 7: This is for you all. 510 00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:42,640 Speaker 4: Did you think, by the way, and that was great? 511 00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:45,040 Speaker 4: I have a random thought. Did you think he was 512 00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:47,760 Speaker 4: great to see all the Seahawks legends that were in 513 00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:51,840 Speaker 4: the parade this afternoon, because going back to twenty thirteen, 514 00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:55,479 Speaker 4: if you were talking legends, you're talking Cortez, Kennedy, Steve Largent, 515 00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:58,960 Speaker 4: Jim Zorn, Warn Moon, Kenny Easiley. Now you got a 516 00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:00,960 Speaker 4: bunch of guys that can say they won a title 517 00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:04,840 Speaker 4: like Zach Miller was in the parade, Ben Obamanu, Richard Sherman. 518 00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:10,320 Speaker 4: Who else was there today? Got Dan? I didn't see 519 00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:13,360 Speaker 4: Sean there, but god, I just I just put this out. 520 00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:15,480 Speaker 4: I'm losing my mind here. There were a bunch of 521 00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:20,920 Speaker 4: guys that were on those teams that won a championship. Cliffavor, 522 00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:24,000 Speaker 4: sorry was there today. I think it's great that we 523 00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:25,919 Speaker 4: have this kind of history that we can now bring 524 00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:26,600 Speaker 4: these guys well. 525 00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:29,919 Speaker 6: And it's funny because I sat I was just totally 526 00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:31,879 Speaker 6: a fish out of water on the west side of 527 00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:32,480 Speaker 6: lumin today. 528 00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:35,159 Speaker 4: I've never sat on the west side of Loum right, 529 00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:38,239 Speaker 4: and so I sat there. So that's my side. By 530 00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:40,360 Speaker 4: the way, I have a totally different perspective. 531 00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:44,280 Speaker 6: And I looked up at the four retired jerseys and 532 00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:46,160 Speaker 6: I was like, in the Ring of Honor and the 533 00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:48,760 Speaker 6: Ring of Honor, and I was like, Wow, we got 534 00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:51,120 Speaker 6: a lot of catching up to do. Like, we have 535 00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:55,800 Speaker 6: a whole Super Bowl championship team that has nothing up. 536 00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:58,959 Speaker 4: On the board and they won a title twelve years ago. Well, 537 00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:01,040 Speaker 4: I think that's going to start happening, right, I think 538 00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:03,600 Speaker 4: you're gonna sey guys now, yeah, from that team will 539 00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:07,000 Speaker 4: start getting their numbers retired. I mean obviously you're talking 540 00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:10,600 Speaker 4: about you know. Look, I mean, well, I don't think 541 00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:15,120 Speaker 4: Sherman gets his number retired because he played for the Niners. Now, 542 00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:18,479 Speaker 4: what they've said up until now is that you got 543 00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:21,680 Speaker 4: to play your entire career with one team and be 544 00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:25,160 Speaker 4: a Hall of Fame caliber player. Those everybody who's had 545 00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:27,920 Speaker 4: their number retired has done that. Now it will say 546 00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:32,040 Speaker 4: this the times change. Obviously, there's way more team to 547 00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:34,360 Speaker 4: do that in the NFL. Right, And so yeah, so 548 00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:35,640 Speaker 4: you're not gonna retire Bobby Wagner. 549 00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:38,120 Speaker 6: Okay, cool, You're not gonna tire Bobby Wager because he 550 00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:38,840 Speaker 6: played for Washington. 551 00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:42,440 Speaker 4: I don't think so. Well, we've seen Seahawks wear twenty 552 00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:45,960 Speaker 4: five since Richard Sherman. I don't think anybody's worn fifty four. 553 00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:48,920 Speaker 4: We've seen people wear twenty four, and we've definitely seen 554 00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:51,800 Speaker 4: people wear three because even war. He's wearing it right now? 555 00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:56,080 Speaker 4: Has anybody worn twenty nine since? To show? Okay, what 556 00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:57,840 Speaker 4: about thirty one? Cam Chancellor? 557 00:29:58,240 --> 00:29:58,400 Speaker 5: Right? 558 00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:00,640 Speaker 4: I mean that kind of tell Yeah, I don't know 559 00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:02,800 Speaker 4: if anybody's worn fifty four? There was a running back 560 00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:03,560 Speaker 4: who were thirty one? 561 00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:03,960 Speaker 9: I think? 562 00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:04,320 Speaker 5: Yeah. 563 00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:07,000 Speaker 6: Well, so if you're telling me that we're only retiring 564 00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:09,040 Speaker 6: guys from teams that didn't win Super Bowls and we're 565 00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:12,840 Speaker 6: not retiring one from that team, is ridiculous. 566 00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:14,200 Speaker 4: That they'll bend it. They'll obviously bend it. I mean, 567 00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:16,880 Speaker 4: Bobby's the guy. Bobby's the first. He played for two 568 00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:19,960 Speaker 4: other teams, right, but he's the guy, you know. I mean, 569 00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:23,680 Speaker 4: maybe it gets changed to ten years in Seattle or 570 00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:27,160 Speaker 4: whatever and then Hall of Fame type player. I mean, 571 00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:30,080 Speaker 4: I don't know. Should Richard Sherman get his number retired 572 00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:33,600 Speaker 4: by the Seahawks fifty four? I think yes, should get 573 00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:37,320 Speaker 4: his number retired. Should Marshawn Lynch get his number retired 574 00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:41,080 Speaker 4: by the Seahawks? Should Russell Wilson, should Cam Chanceler, should 575 00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:44,200 Speaker 4: Earl Thomas? It depends those are all Ring of Honor guys. 576 00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:49,240 Speaker 6: It depends on how elite you want your retired jerseys 577 00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:52,560 Speaker 6: to be. I guarantee you NFL teams have worse players 578 00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:55,360 Speaker 6: than Richard Sherman and Earl Thomas tired. So if you want, 579 00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:57,320 Speaker 6: I mean, if you literally want to keep it to 580 00:30:57,720 --> 00:31:00,680 Speaker 6: the elite of the elite of the NFL, elite like 581 00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:04,320 Speaker 6: household names in every city in America, then okay. 582 00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:07,480 Speaker 9: If you start opening it up, and if you start saying, Okay, 583 00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:09,840 Speaker 9: we're gonna retire twenty four, we're gonna retire twenty five, 584 00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:12,800 Speaker 9: We're gonna retire XYZ, and just keep going down the list, 585 00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:15,520 Speaker 9: eventually you're going to run into a roadbox. You're gonna 586 00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:19,120 Speaker 9: chap it. You have to make it insanely exclusive. I 587 00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:21,800 Speaker 9: go by that standard. I agree the only one should 588 00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:22,400 Speaker 9: be fifty four. 589 00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:24,800 Speaker 4: I agree with Jackson right now now, I got no 590 00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:27,000 Speaker 4: problem putting those guys in the Ring of Honor. Yeah, 591 00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:30,560 Speaker 4: I think three, I think eighty nine, I think twenty four, 592 00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:33,600 Speaker 4: I think thirty one. I think twenty nine, twenty five 593 00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:36,240 Speaker 4: and fifty four going all go in. Those are all 594 00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:40,240 Speaker 4: Ring of Honor members. Okay, So we need to find 595 00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:43,920 Speaker 4: out who's getting their number retired next, and who's gonna start. 596 00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:47,080 Speaker 4: Who's gonna be the first member of that team to 597 00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:48,640 Speaker 4: get into the Ring of Honors. 598 00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:50,719 Speaker 6: Should probably be the first one that retired, right, right, 599 00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:53,480 Speaker 6: they should kind of do it in order. Like, but 600 00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:56,200 Speaker 6: we have such a backlog now of let's just forget 601 00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:59,479 Speaker 6: retied jerseys. Second, we have such a backlog that if 602 00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:02,800 Speaker 6: we you just named him up, you named almost a decade. 603 00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:06,160 Speaker 6: If we did one per year, you almost did a decade, 604 00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:09,000 Speaker 6: and by that time it'll be starting to retire this 605 00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:11,600 Speaker 6: team's names in the Ring of Honour. 606 00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:13,840 Speaker 4: Well, and then Pete Carroll's going in the Ring of Honors, right, 607 00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:16,240 Speaker 4: I mean, come on, guys, right, I mean John Schneider 608 00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:18,239 Speaker 4: at some point he's going to go in the Ring 609 00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:20,280 Speaker 4: of Honor. I don't know if you have to do 610 00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:22,160 Speaker 4: one every year, I think you can do one and 611 00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:24,280 Speaker 4: a half on average. You could do two to one year, 612 00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:26,520 Speaker 4: one the next two, the next year, won the next. 613 00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:28,760 Speaker 4: I mean, why not do a couple every season. I 614 00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:31,400 Speaker 4: think if you're retiring numbers, then yeah, that guy gets 615 00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:34,600 Speaker 4: the year. That's his job and he owns that season. 616 00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:38,120 Speaker 4: But you know, I'm looking at the Seahawk Ring of 617 00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:46,040 Speaker 4: Honor between nineteen eighty nine and two thousand and six, right, 618 00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:49,080 Speaker 4: so we're talking what twenty seven years, is that correct? 619 00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:53,440 Speaker 4: They had one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, 620 00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:57,640 Speaker 4: nine ten people enter the Ring of Honor. Since then, 621 00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:02,760 Speaker 4: in the following twenty years, they've only had five people 622 00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:05,520 Speaker 4: under the Ring of Honor, one out of every four years. 623 00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:07,640 Speaker 4: One of them is Paul Allen, by the way, and 624 00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:09,200 Speaker 4: I tell you who else is gonna go in the 625 00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:11,720 Speaker 4: Ring of Honor. Steve Rabel is gonna go in the 626 00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:14,080 Speaker 4: Ring of Honor. Pete Gross's in the Ring of Honor. 627 00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:17,040 Speaker 4: Steve Rabel absolutely will go in the Ring of Honor. 628 00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:19,720 Speaker 4: I mean, you got what is it, sixteen, three, six, 629 00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:23,320 Speaker 4: nine ten, You got fifteen members of the Ring of Honor. 630 00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:25,760 Speaker 4: That thing could double in the next twenty years. 631 00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:26,160 Speaker 5: We could. 632 00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:30,440 Speaker 6: We just basically named as many people that will go 633 00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:32,640 Speaker 6: in the Ring of Honor that they already have in 634 00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:36,040 Speaker 6: fifty years. That's how good this franchise has been over 635 00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:36,800 Speaker 6: the last two months. 636 00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:38,800 Speaker 4: Do you guys know that between two thousand and seven 637 00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:41,680 Speaker 4: and twenty thirteen, they didn't put anybody in over a 638 00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:44,680 Speaker 4: seven year period. Nobody went in Cortes winning in two 639 00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:46,880 Speaker 4: thousand and six, and then Walter Jones did it in 640 00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:50,000 Speaker 4: twenty fourteen, So they had a gap, and that gap 641 00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:52,160 Speaker 4: is never gonna happen again. They're never gonna have a 642 00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:54,080 Speaker 4: gap that long. All right, we're gonna break Cooper cup 643 00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:56,280 Speaker 4: spoke today. We're gonna give you a lot more from 644 00:33:56,320 --> 00:33:58,600 Speaker 4: the trophy ceremony in a six pm hour as well. 645 00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:01,920 Speaker 4: Right here on ninety three three AJRFF. We never waver Man. 646 00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:04,160 Speaker 4: We believed in each other, We loved each other. Now 647 00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:07,480 Speaker 4: we're world championship. Back to Suffi and Dick on your 648 00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:10,000 Speaker 4: home for the twelfth man. We got the best defends 649 00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:12,759 Speaker 4: in the world. Twelve Ors Radio ninety three point three 650 00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:13,880 Speaker 4: kJ R. 651 00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:16,560 Speaker 8: FM, They shout out to the twelve Have you got 652 00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:20,120 Speaker 8: anything to say for my quarterback? You got anything to 653 00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:23,080 Speaker 8: say for my deepense, you got anything to say for 654 00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:26,799 Speaker 8: our whole line, and you got anything to say by 655 00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:29,920 Speaker 8: the city of Seattle. I got two words for you. 656 00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:33,960 Speaker 7: I got two words for you. 657 00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:40,160 Speaker 4: Ernest Jones today backing up his quarterback Sam Darnald Man, 658 00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:42,200 Speaker 4: I gotta be honest with you. I gotta just stop 659 00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:45,120 Speaker 4: falling for the for the baits on the Darnald thing. 660 00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:48,319 Speaker 4: I really do you know, honestly, who gives a damn? 661 00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:51,000 Speaker 4: He's our quarterback. We won we got the Lombardi whatever. 662 00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:55,000 Speaker 4: I just I get a little bit annoyed when takes 663 00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:58,640 Speaker 4: are repeated across the country by parents that don't do 664 00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:01,680 Speaker 4: their own work. Look, if you don't like Sam Donald, 665 00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:04,759 Speaker 4: that's fine, then explain why. But this idea that the 666 00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:07,920 Speaker 4: Seahawks did not need Sam Donald to win a title 667 00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:11,360 Speaker 4: is ludicrous. And I put this on Twitter Dick about 668 00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:14,719 Speaker 4: an hour ago. The Seahawks defense this year had an 669 00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:18,600 Speaker 4: opposing passer rating of seventy seven point nine. Okay, number 670 00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:21,200 Speaker 4: four I think in the NFL. Matt Stafford in three 671 00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:23,560 Speaker 4: games against the Seahawks through for nine hundred and sixty 672 00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:26,520 Speaker 4: one yards, eight touchdowns, no interceptions, had one hundred and 673 00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:29,200 Speaker 4: ten point eight passer rating against the Hawks this year, 674 00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:31,200 Speaker 4: and he went one and two. He went one and 675 00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:34,839 Speaker 4: two because the offense scored enough points to beat him. 676 00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:37,320 Speaker 4: You know, Sean mcvagh kind of had his way with 677 00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:40,399 Speaker 4: McDonald right for a few games this year. They don't 678 00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:42,960 Speaker 4: win those games against LA without Sam, they don't get 679 00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:45,520 Speaker 4: the number one seed without Sam, and they don't win 680 00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:48,880 Speaker 4: the Super Bowl without him. The narrative about him by 681 00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:52,959 Speaker 4: some is so lazy and uninformed that, frankly, you sound 682 00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:55,960 Speaker 4: like an effing moron if you continue to go down 683 00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:57,960 Speaker 4: that path. So what I believe about Sam Darnald. 684 00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:00,759 Speaker 6: I feel like if the Seattle Seahawks had let's say, 685 00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:05,880 Speaker 6: the Carolina Panthers defense, right, which was sixteenth in the NFL, 686 00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:08,719 Speaker 6: or the Pittsburgh Steelers defense which was seventeen the NFL, 687 00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:11,640 Speaker 6: giving up twenty three points per game, Sam Donald would 688 00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:15,759 Speaker 6: have seven to eight, maybe ten more touchdown passes this year, 689 00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:19,719 Speaker 6: and probably three or four more interceptions. But he'd throw 690 00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:23,359 Speaker 6: for about seven hundred and fifty more yards. You know why, 691 00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:26,920 Speaker 6: because he would have had to. And would anybody be 692 00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:29,719 Speaker 6: looking at Sam Donald as not a very good quarterback 693 00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:31,920 Speaker 6: if he had a seven hundred and fifty more yards, 694 00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:34,600 Speaker 6: ten more touchdowns, and maybe three or four more interceptions. No, 695 00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:36,239 Speaker 6: they'd be looking at him as one of the best 696 00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:37,760 Speaker 6: quarterbacks in the NFL. 697 00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:39,759 Speaker 4: But he did not have to do that for a 698 00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:42,839 Speaker 4: season for right. Yeah, again, I just think that when 699 00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:45,320 Speaker 4: you're playing in a game like that on Sunday and 700 00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:48,480 Speaker 4: you're winning a championship, I mean, you're talking about the 701 00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:52,239 Speaker 4: elite pulling away from the really, really good, right, Like 702 00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:56,200 Speaker 4: this is obviously a chance to be the best of 703 00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:59,640 Speaker 4: thirty two and the blade of a knife is the 704 00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:03,120 Speaker 4: different friends. The razor's edge is the difference between sometimes 705 00:37:03,239 --> 00:37:05,759 Speaker 4: playing in the game and not playing in the game 706 00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:07,680 Speaker 4: at all. I mean, look at the NFC Championship. For 707 00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:10,759 Speaker 4: God's sake, Sam Darnold. Doesn't complete that ball to this guy, 708 00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:12,800 Speaker 4: Cooper Cup, We're gonna hear from in a second on 709 00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:15,960 Speaker 4: third and seven, they may lose the game. Defense doesn't 710 00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:18,680 Speaker 4: step up on third and fourth down inside the what 711 00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:21,640 Speaker 4: five yard line? Whatever it was, they may lose that game. 712 00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:25,680 Speaker 4: Cooper Cup today, talking at the podium at the trophy ceremony. 713 00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:35,759 Speaker 10: Hey, Washington, how about them mapples? Huh aye, thank you 714 00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:38,879 Speaker 10: guys for embracing a kid, a couple of kids from 715 00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:41,440 Speaker 10: eastern Washington, from Yakama to Tri Cities. 716 00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:42,920 Speaker 4: Appreciate you all. 717 00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:49,280 Speaker 10: Hey, these guys here we embrace the style that nobody 718 00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:52,560 Speaker 10: wants to play. But you guys may it's a stadium 719 00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:58,960 Speaker 10: no one wants to come to. Hey, but even more, 720 00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:02,359 Speaker 10: you took over every stadium that we went to this year, 721 00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:03,719 Speaker 10: made it ours man. 722 00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:04,600 Speaker 5: Thank you so much. 723 00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:07,320 Speaker 10: You guys are incredible, best fan base in the world. 724 00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:07,680 Speaker 9: Thank you. 725 00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:09,960 Speaker 4: Do you think he's back next year? Cooper Cup back 726 00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:14,000 Speaker 4: next year on this team. Let me look at this, 727 00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:16,080 Speaker 4: I gotta look at before I aner that. I got 728 00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:17,080 Speaker 4: to look at that number. 729 00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:19,600 Speaker 9: Fifteen million, three forty five was the contract he signed 730 00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:20,279 Speaker 9: before last year? 731 00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:23,000 Speaker 6: Yes, yes, right, but the cap hit, let's see cap 732 00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:25,560 Speaker 6: hit goes from nine to seventeen. 733 00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:31,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, is he back? Two questions? Does he want to 734 00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:34,560 Speaker 4: be back? And does the Seahawks want him back at 735 00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:34,959 Speaker 4: that number? 736 00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:37,680 Speaker 9: I think I think it's too much dead to be 737 00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:40,360 Speaker 9: able to write and listen. He's still a meaningful person, 738 00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:43,360 Speaker 9: not only obviously on the field he didn't do what 739 00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:46,360 Speaker 9: we wanted him to do, but every single time Jackson 740 00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:48,840 Speaker 9: Smiths and Jigwa talks about him, he talks about what 741 00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:51,960 Speaker 9: a huge influence Cooper Cup has had on him and 742 00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:54,600 Speaker 9: that wide receiver room. And as Tory Horton returns from 743 00:38:54,600 --> 00:38:58,120 Speaker 9: his injury, I want Cooper Cupp continuing to mentor Tory Horton. 744 00:38:58,360 --> 00:39:00,239 Speaker 9: So I bring him back because then numbers two high 745 00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:01,359 Speaker 9: in because of the influence there. 746 00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:03,120 Speaker 4: Yeah. Well, it just reminds me a little bit of 747 00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:05,080 Speaker 4: a way of what lawyer Milloyd did for Earl Thomas 748 00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:07,640 Speaker 4: when he was yeah, early in his career, right, I 749 00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:11,200 Speaker 4: mean extremely influential, no doubt. Yeah, I mean, if you're 750 00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:13,919 Speaker 4: gonna pay, would you yet to ask yourself this question? 751 00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:16,840 Speaker 6: Would you rather pay eight million for Cooper to not 752 00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:19,759 Speaker 6: be on the team or seventeen million for Cooper to 753 00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:20,760 Speaker 6: be on the seventeen? 754 00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:21,040 Speaker 5: Right? 755 00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:24,040 Speaker 4: I'm kind of with you. Yeah, I just think it's 756 00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:27,240 Speaker 4: worth it considering the impact he had. I'm not expecting 757 00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:30,799 Speaker 4: a lot on the field as he gets older, right obviously, 758 00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:33,759 Speaker 4: but I do think he's good enough and can come 759 00:39:33,840 --> 00:39:36,759 Speaker 4: up big in some big enough moments or it's worth 760 00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:39,719 Speaker 4: having him around and who knows, right, I mean he 761 00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:41,839 Speaker 4: was banged up a little bit this year. Remember when 762 00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:43,799 Speaker 4: they went out and got Rashid Shaheed. We thought they're 763 00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:45,960 Speaker 4: making the move because I am. It turned out there 764 00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:47,960 Speaker 4: making the move because of Tory Horten. Right, see the 765 00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:48,400 Speaker 4: night thing? 766 00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:51,640 Speaker 9: Right you if Shaheed's number is too big and another 767 00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:53,960 Speaker 9: team gives him fifteen million in the Sioux only want 768 00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:55,920 Speaker 9: to pay him ten or whatever, right, then you do 769 00:39:56,200 --> 00:39:57,640 Speaker 9: need Cooper Cup on this roster. 770 00:39:57,800 --> 00:40:00,960 Speaker 4: Well, how do you get enough football to take care 771 00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:05,279 Speaker 4: of JSN, Cooper Cup, Rashid Shahed and Tory Horton next year? 772 00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:08,759 Speaker 4: That's a lot. That's a deep receiving core and I 773 00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:11,320 Speaker 4: don't know if they make the move for Shahed unless 774 00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:12,160 Speaker 4: those guys are hurt. 775 00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:14,640 Speaker 6: By the way, well, Tory Horton seems to me, and 776 00:40:14,719 --> 00:40:17,080 Speaker 6: this would be a question for Hugh. Tory Horton seems 777 00:40:17,120 --> 00:40:19,400 Speaker 6: to me like the guy that would replace Shahed more 778 00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:23,680 Speaker 6: than you replace Cup. So maybe you bring Cup back, 779 00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:26,520 Speaker 6: he's already under contract. You let Shahed go, and Tory 780 00:40:26,600 --> 00:40:28,080 Speaker 6: Horton becomes your Shahed. 781 00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:28,520 Speaker 5: Yeah. 782 00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:30,960 Speaker 6: Yeah, Now you don't have Shahed as a return guy, 783 00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:33,680 Speaker 6: which stinks. But maybe Tory Horton can be a return guy. 784 00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:34,759 Speaker 6: Let's get a break.