WEBVTT - Rocky & Jason -- 12/3/25 0:00:00.880 --> 0:00:04.320 Alongside the one, the only, Jason Williams, the third day 0:00:04.320 --> 0:00:06.880 in a row. Jason, howwy good brother? How you doing? Man? 0:00:07.120 --> 0:00:09.040 I am good. So it's that time of year. 0:00:09.800 --> 0:00:13.800 Everyone's getting packages and packages and packages and packages delivered 0:00:13.800 --> 0:00:17.400 to their house, which means you're a soft target for 0:00:17.720 --> 0:00:21.240 porch pirates, right those folks that they drive up, they 0:00:21.320 --> 0:00:23.360 jump out of the car, steal your package, jump. 0:00:23.160 --> 0:00:25.079 In the car, and none you can do about it. Well, 0:00:25.079 --> 0:00:27.760 we'll flip off your ring camera for you one exactly 0:00:27.760 --> 0:00:30.040 like a face at it. Right. Well, I think there's 0:00:30.040 --> 0:00:31.560 a lot of people out there, I'm certainly one of 0:00:31.640 --> 0:00:34.760 them to think, you know, the like it's just some 0:00:34.800 --> 0:00:39.360 good old fashioned street justice. Have some frontier. 0:00:39.000 --> 0:00:41.440 Justice would maybe stop this? And is there something we 0:00:41.479 --> 0:00:41.760 can do? 0:00:41.840 --> 0:00:46.360 Can we booby trap a package and allow it to 0:00:46.360 --> 0:00:48.960 blow up on them? If we've seen the videos online, 0:00:48.960 --> 0:00:50.760 they're hilarious and I think justified. 0:00:50.800 --> 0:00:54.320 But is it legal? And join us right now? Is 0:00:54.600 --> 0:00:55.760 attorney to the Stars. 0:00:55.800 --> 0:00:58.440 He's the first m an attorney here in town, the one, 0:00:58.480 --> 0:01:01.440 the only Jack grind Or Jack Howell are you hey? 0:01:01.520 --> 0:01:01.720 Roc? 0:01:01.840 --> 0:01:03.800 Are you doing good luck to your bombers this weekend? 0:01:03.800 --> 0:01:04.920 I want to make sure I get that. 0:01:04.840 --> 0:01:07.680 In before I appreciate it. Yeah, it's a big one. 0:01:08.160 --> 0:01:10.800 All comes down to this, we'll good, well, thank you. 0:01:11.560 --> 0:01:13.759 So yeah, and you wrote a good, a great op 0:01:13.880 --> 0:01:18.679 ed for the the Inquiry here talking about that, and. 0:01:18.040 --> 0:01:20.160 You know a lot of folks I feel I feel 0:01:20.200 --> 0:01:21.080 the same way I do. 0:01:21.200 --> 0:01:23.800 It's like, you know, one way to to stop this 0:01:23.840 --> 0:01:26.160 from happening is just a good some good old fashioned 0:01:26.200 --> 0:01:27.160 retribution here. 0:01:27.200 --> 0:01:31.280 But legally speaking, can we do such things? 0:01:32.200 --> 0:01:36.800 Well, yes and no, or maybe I should say no 0:01:36.920 --> 0:01:37.399 and yes. 0:01:37.720 --> 0:01:37.880 You know. 0:01:38.360 --> 0:01:41.319 Uh, A reader, a guy who reads my column wrote 0:01:41.319 --> 0:01:43.039 me an email and said, hey, I heard about this, 0:01:43.080 --> 0:01:44.760 can you can you write about it? So that's how 0:01:44.800 --> 0:01:46.600 it came about. I hadn't really given them a whole 0:01:46.600 --> 0:01:47.240 lot of thought, to. 0:01:47.200 --> 0:01:47.840 Be honest with you. 0:01:47.880 --> 0:01:51.000 But so I think that. 0:01:53.360 --> 0:01:53.840 If you. 0:01:56.080 --> 0:02:00.680 Injure somebody and you do it intentionally, and sometimes the 0:02:01.480 --> 0:02:06.960 law uses the word wantonly, uh, you can be liable 0:02:07.920 --> 0:02:11.560 for that injury. Now, And that's why I say yes 0:02:11.639 --> 0:02:16.320 and no. So yes, there can be liability, but there 0:02:16.360 --> 0:02:18.240 has to be some sort of injury. I mean, if 0:02:18.280 --> 0:02:21.680 it is just a you know, if it's a glitter bomb. 0:02:22.240 --> 0:02:25.680 But is everybody's seen online some great videos. They steal 0:02:25.720 --> 0:02:28.360 the package, they run out and boom a giant puff 0:02:28.400 --> 0:02:29.799 of a bye or whatever. 0:02:32.320 --> 0:02:34.920 So I don't think there's gonna be liability, you know, 0:02:35.080 --> 0:02:37.680 for just that kind of prank. I mean, you know, 0:02:37.840 --> 0:02:39.720 unless the guy wants you to pay his dry cleaning 0:02:39.800 --> 0:02:41.320 or something like that. But I don't think that's probably 0:02:41.320 --> 0:02:45.360 gonna happen. So uh, I think that. But the risk 0:02:45.560 --> 0:02:49.880 is if it if something goes wrong and you know, 0:02:50.280 --> 0:02:53.799 somehow or another the device you know, injures that person, 0:02:54.080 --> 0:02:59.279 perhaps burns them or uh, you know, causes eye problems 0:02:59.360 --> 0:03:03.520 for example, or you know, inhalation of it is you know, 0:03:03.600 --> 0:03:06.520 becomes a problem. So there really can be and and 0:03:06.680 --> 0:03:12.240 the law says that the level of care that you 0:03:12.320 --> 0:03:15.680 owe to somebody as a homeowner really depends on why 0:03:15.720 --> 0:03:19.080 that person is on your property. So if you've been 0:03:19.360 --> 0:03:23.240 if you've invited someone uh to come, you know, a 0:03:23.280 --> 0:03:28.640 plumber or something, and there's some unsafe situation in your house, 0:03:29.400 --> 0:03:31.720 and you know, the plumber steps on the rate that 0:03:31.760 --> 0:03:34.440 you left on the front porch and pronks their head, 0:03:34.960 --> 0:03:38.680 You've got liability to that to that plumber. That's the 0:03:38.760 --> 0:03:42.000 highest level because you have you have invited that person 0:03:42.080 --> 0:03:46.840 in if you've got what are called licensees, and that 0:03:47.000 --> 0:03:50.240 is people who are come to your property for a 0:03:50.280 --> 0:03:53.480 purpose of their own. So think of a you know, 0:03:53.640 --> 0:03:58.840 a girl scout selling cookies. You've you've got a duty 0:03:58.880 --> 0:04:01.800 to take care of any known dangers, but you're not 0:04:01.960 --> 0:04:05.360 liable for something that's that's unforeseen like you would be 0:04:05.440 --> 0:04:10.360 with an invite. The third category is the trespasser, and 0:04:10.480 --> 0:04:14.080 you have no liability typically to a trespasser, except for 0:04:15.120 --> 0:04:21.600 intentional actions that you take with respect to the to 0:04:21.640 --> 0:04:25.840 the trespasser. I think the underlying reason for this, the 0:04:25.880 --> 0:04:30.200 principle under it is that, you know, if you booby 0:04:30.240 --> 0:04:32.880 trap that thing and some innocent person comes and just 0:04:32.920 --> 0:04:35.799 bumps it or something, and it goes off and causes 0:04:35.839 --> 0:04:38.800 them injury, the law wants to prevent that. So in 0:04:38.920 --> 0:04:44.719 order to sort of prevent injury to innocent people, you know, 0:04:44.800 --> 0:04:47.400 the law says that the homeowner can be liable for 0:04:47.600 --> 0:04:51.520 intentional conduct even if it harms a non innocent person. 0:04:51.560 --> 0:04:54.599 And it sounds a little counterintuitive, but but that really 0:04:54.680 --> 0:04:56.440 is the law. 0:04:56.560 --> 0:04:59.800 Jack Loves Your Love your op ed on susame dot 0:04:59.800 --> 0:05:02.000 com and you touched on everything you just said here. 0:05:02.080 --> 0:05:05.560 You touched on that in your column. What I'm confused 0:05:05.600 --> 0:05:08.080 on is the trespasser piece, because aren't you wouldn't you 0:05:08.120 --> 0:05:10.440 be considered if you're a porch pirate, You've come onto 0:05:10.440 --> 0:05:15.520 my ear. You're trespassing on my property, right, and so 0:05:15.560 --> 0:05:16.479 wouldn't you are? 0:05:16.560 --> 0:05:21.160 And you're you're a trespasser, uh, and therefore you are 0:05:21.520 --> 0:05:25.760 the least, you know, the lowest duty that a homeowner owns, 0:05:26.320 --> 0:05:30.560 and that means that the homeowner is is not liable 0:05:30.600 --> 0:05:34.599 for anything that happens unless the homeowner, you know, caused 0:05:34.600 --> 0:05:38.520 it intentionally, So that means rigging up a glitter bomb. 0:05:38.560 --> 0:05:41.360 That means, you know, having an anvile drop on their 0:05:41.360 --> 0:05:43.159 head if you're wildly coyote or something. 0:05:43.400 --> 0:05:43.520 Uh. 0:05:44.279 --> 0:05:47.159 But that's uh. 0:05:46.839 --> 0:05:47.320 But that's it. 0:05:47.600 --> 0:05:47.760 You know. 0:05:47.880 --> 0:05:51.120 I've looked on YouTube. I was curious about whether I 0:05:51.160 --> 0:05:55.000 could find any cases that actually where this actually came up. 0:05:55.880 --> 0:05:56.200 Uh. 0:05:56.320 --> 0:05:59.200 You know, you can imagine that if I'm defending the 0:05:59.200 --> 0:06:03.200 homeowner again the porch pirate, I feel pretty good going 0:06:03.240 --> 0:06:05.320 into the case almost no matter what I did. I 0:06:05.360 --> 0:06:07.120 think the jury is going to be pretty sympathetic to 0:06:07.160 --> 0:06:11.000 the homeowner. So if there's not much casel that I 0:06:11.080 --> 0:06:13.960 could find I did find something on YouTube where a 0:06:14.560 --> 0:06:17.920 porch pirate who was absolutely. 0:06:17.320 --> 0:06:18.719 Caught in the act. I mean it was on the 0:06:18.760 --> 0:06:23.120 ring camera and they it was. 0:06:23.240 --> 0:06:26.040 It was a man and a woman working together the woman. 0:06:26.560 --> 0:06:29.680 The man waited in the car while the woman went 0:06:29.760 --> 0:06:34.000 up to the porch, grabs the package, starts to run away, 0:06:34.040 --> 0:06:38.479 and she trips and falls on the landscaping and really 0:06:38.480 --> 0:06:42.720 messes up her ankle. The man jumps out of the car, 0:06:42.800 --> 0:06:45.360 helps her into the car, then goes back and gets 0:06:45.360 --> 0:06:52.719 the package, and she sued the homeowner for damages from 0:06:52.760 --> 0:06:57.440 her ankle injury, and the court the judge just threw 0:06:57.480 --> 0:07:00.640 it out immediately and you know, let her know what 0:07:00.720 --> 0:07:01.800 he thought of her. 0:07:02.320 --> 0:07:02.480 Uh. 0:07:03.400 --> 0:07:08.479 And again but that fall, he had a gut really Uh. 0:07:08.680 --> 0:07:13.280 The hold owner didn't do anything intentionally to hurt that person, right. 0:07:13.720 --> 0:07:15.120 So that's that's. 0:07:15.000 --> 0:07:18.840 An illustration of how it works. Whereas you know, it's 0:07:18.880 --> 0:07:21.920 the plumber, Uh, somebody you invited on tripped over the 0:07:21.960 --> 0:07:25.360 landscape and you might have a problem. So that's that's 0:07:25.360 --> 0:07:28.040 how the law draws the line. But it does seem 0:07:28.600 --> 0:07:31.640 you know, I get it where you think, Well, wait 0:07:31.680 --> 0:07:34.520 a minute, Like I said in my column, you mean 0:07:34.560 --> 0:07:37.400 the Harry and mart and Home alone could sue Kevin McAllister, 0:07:37.480 --> 0:07:41.360 And actually they probably could, just Kevin was was clearly 0:07:41.400 --> 0:07:42.360 intending to harm them. 0:07:42.440 --> 0:07:42.560 Right. 0:07:45.160 --> 0:07:48.040 But using your rake example, Jack, just to kind of 0:07:48.200 --> 0:07:51.600 sum it all up. If there's just happened to be 0:07:51.720 --> 0:07:54.560 a rake you left in your yard and someone you 0:07:54.560 --> 0:07:57.320 know steals a package and they're running out and they 0:07:57.360 --> 0:07:59.440 step on that thing and it goes through their foot, 0:08:00.120 --> 0:08:03.560 you're not liable. But if you purposefully put the rake 0:08:03.640 --> 0:08:05.800 in there for a way for them to get hurt 0:08:05.840 --> 0:08:09.680 while they're trustpassing on your yard, then you are liable, 0:08:09.840 --> 0:08:13.600 which seems crazy, but that's the breakdown, right have. 0:08:13.560 --> 0:08:17.480 You if you intended to cause the injury, Uh, You've 0:08:18.000 --> 0:08:22.680 you've got a problem. Uh So that's yeah. And again 0:08:22.760 --> 0:08:27.960 that's really to to protect innocent people who might get 0:08:28.480 --> 0:08:31.280 you know, collateral damage. It's trying to I guess, reduce 0:08:31.360 --> 0:08:33.160 collateral damage as much as possible. 0:08:33.840 --> 0:08:36.160 Well, Jack will listen. It has been great. We appreciate 0:08:36.160 --> 0:08:37.599 your time. I've got to let you go because I 0:08:37.679 --> 0:08:39.400 got to go home and diffuse a bunch of uh 0:08:39.840 --> 0:08:42.880 smoke bombs and packages at my house after talking with 0:08:42.920 --> 0:08:43.280 you here. 0:08:44.920 --> 0:08:46.800 Well, I'm glad to be of service, Rocky, And I'm 0:08:46.800 --> 0:08:47.800 not going to send you a billy. 0:08:50.240 --> 0:08:50.839 That's great. 0:08:51.559 --> 0:08:54.040 Just send one to you know, yeah, send one to 0:08:54.120 --> 0:08:55.440 him he needs it. 0:08:55.520 --> 0:08:57.960 Yes, Well, Jack has been great, brother, I really appreciate 0:08:58.040 --> 0:08:59.599 and uh, if we don't talk before, I have a 0:08:59.640 --> 0:09:03.920 great high all day man you too, Yes, yep, thanks 0:09:03.920 --> 0:09:07.800 to yah. I think so, because that would it would 0:09:07.880 --> 0:09:10.680 stop the problem. Right, it should be all about society 0:09:10.760 --> 0:09:13.760 should be the greater goal should be how do we 0:09:13.800 --> 0:09:16.120 get people to stop from doing this? Well, it's impossible 0:09:16.160 --> 0:09:18.400 for every cop to be at every house. But a 0:09:18.440 --> 0:09:21.200 way of stopping this is if there's enough people that 0:09:21.360 --> 0:09:24.160 see on video that there's folks out there that have 0:09:24.240 --> 0:09:27.840 packages and one of them could be wired up to 0:09:27.880 --> 0:09:32.920 blow up with die or hell anything explosives, it would 0:09:32.960 --> 0:09:36.360 stop the problem. Yeah, that's the problem with society. You 0:09:36.400 --> 0:09:39.640 forgot lawyers, Well you forgot to ask a key question. 0:09:39.679 --> 0:09:44.880 How many times has Jack Grinder covered my butt? Exactly? 0:09:45.400 --> 0:09:48.440 We keep them on speed dialing around here. 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Christmas Glows 0:11:39.000 --> 0:11:39.520 in Jason. 0:11:39.679 --> 0:11:42.080 On this day in History, nineteen ninety two. 0:11:43.520 --> 0:11:49.440 How about this, The first SMS text message is sent. Uh, well, Bob, 0:11:49.880 --> 0:11:54.160 it's that far back. Yeah. Neil Papworth, who was a 0:11:54.160 --> 0:11:58.400 twenty two year old engineer, uses a personal computer to 0:11:58.480 --> 0:12:04.600 send a text message of Merry Christmas to the Vodaphone 0:12:04.600 --> 0:12:09.440 network to the phone of a colleague. Papworth was working 0:12:09.440 --> 0:12:14.280 for the now defunct Anglo French IT Services company, was 0:12:14.320 --> 0:12:17.480 part of a team developing a short Message Service Center 0:12:17.720 --> 0:12:22.800 SMSC for the British telecommunications company Vota Phone in the UK. 0:12:24.040 --> 0:12:28.440 When they started getting the technology together together for it, 0:12:28.800 --> 0:12:31.640 sat out a computer terminal and sent the simple message 0:12:32.160 --> 0:12:35.560 to the mobile phone of Richard Jarvis, director of Vodaphone, 0:12:36.320 --> 0:12:39.800 who was attending holiday party. Quote it didn't feel momentous 0:12:39.840 --> 0:12:42.080 at all, Papworth later said, for me, it was just 0:12:42.080 --> 0:12:44.920 getting my job done on the day and ensuring that 0:12:44.960 --> 0:12:47.600 our software that we've been developing for a good year 0:12:47.760 --> 0:12:52.040 was working okay. Shortly after, Papworth received a call from 0:12:52.040 --> 0:12:54.800 the Christmas party letting him know that the outgoing message 0:12:54.880 --> 0:12:57.760 was received, so they couldn't text back from the phone 0:12:57.800 --> 0:12:58.520 to the computer. 0:12:59.120 --> 0:13:02.600 And that was way, way, way too complicated back then. 0:13:04.400 --> 0:13:08.120 But then then, and then one year later, and it's 0:13:08.120 --> 0:13:10.760 amazing how quickly things happen after this. One year later, 0:13:11.360 --> 0:13:14.640 Nokia released the first cell phone with the SMS feature, 0:13:14.679 --> 0:13:18.160 but messages uh then limited to one hundred and sixty 0:13:18.200 --> 0:13:21.640 characters due to bandwidth constraints could only be sent within 0:13:21.679 --> 0:13:24.400 the same mobile network, so you can send a Nokia 0:13:24.440 --> 0:13:27.080 to Nokia. Had they caught it? Like, was there a 0:13:27.200 --> 0:13:31.120 cost to it as well? I wonder yes? And yeah. 0:13:31.240 --> 0:13:35.520 Phone networks would finally allow users SMS across rival combretes 0:13:35.559 --> 0:13:39.359 in nineteen eighty nine as a means of casual communic communication. 0:13:40.760 --> 0:13:44.839 But but yeah, you had to there was a pretty 0:13:44.880 --> 0:13:48.760 substantial costs involved with it. Okay, so uh, text message 0:13:48.760 --> 0:13:51.319 the medi of communication blossom with the introduction of d 0:13:51.480 --> 0:13:54.439 T nine system, which is you know a little bit 0:13:54.559 --> 0:13:57.080 of of the it was still the you know, you 0:13:57.080 --> 0:13:59.880 got hit two yeah three times to get to see 0:14:00.280 --> 0:14:03.160 and all that. In the UK, the birthplace of texting, 0:14:03.320 --> 0:14:07.840 SMS messaging exploded in popularity. By February two thousand and one, 0:14:08.440 --> 0:14:11.880 about one billion texts were being sent every month and 0:14:12.040 --> 0:14:15.800 users were being charged here you go ten pence a text, 0:14:16.800 --> 0:14:20.600 and then by twenty ten reported that two hundred thousand 0:14:20.640 --> 0:14:25.960 text messages were being sent every minute. By twenty twelve, 0:14:26.160 --> 0:14:29.640 actually the texting started to see ad steady decline because 0:14:29.640 --> 0:14:33.040 now there's all there's you know, there's Facebook Messenger, there's 0:14:33.200 --> 0:14:35.240 fifty different things. That's one thing I complained about is 0:14:35.280 --> 0:14:40.240 there's so many different ways to like communicate. There's text, 0:14:40.240 --> 0:14:45.120 there's email, there's your work email, there's Facebook messenger, there's Instagram, 0:14:45.280 --> 0:14:48.560 you know message. It's it's crazy. I feel lucky to 0:14:48.840 --> 0:14:53.240 I was born. I remember the rotary telephone when I 0:14:53.280 --> 0:14:54.760 was young, right, the one where we had to put 0:14:54.760 --> 0:14:57.280 your finger in it and spin it. Then, of course 0:14:57.320 --> 0:15:01.400 the dial phone became popular. And then remember the days 0:15:01.400 --> 0:15:03.240 of the pager. My dad would not let me have 0:15:03.320 --> 0:15:05.480 a pager, even though it was kind of cool when 0:15:05.560 --> 0:15:08.360 I was in like, you know, middle school. Then cell 0:15:08.400 --> 0:15:11.440 phones and then cell phones that allowed you to text. 0:15:11.480 --> 0:15:14.960 I remember distinctly being in college. I've always said I 0:15:15.000 --> 0:15:16.920 didn't have a cell phone until my senior year. This 0:15:17.120 --> 0:15:20.640 was nineteen or shoot me, two thousand and two. I 0:15:20.720 --> 0:15:25.720 got when I think I was oh three, okay, yeah, 0:15:25.760 --> 0:15:28.280 I mean I held off. Oh yeah, I mean, well 0:15:28.400 --> 0:15:30.760 you would have been too, like, oh two, yeah, I 0:15:31.200 --> 0:15:34.640 have a long time, yeah, a long time in the office. 0:15:34.640 --> 0:15:38.120 Finally was like you gotta get one, right yeah, And 0:15:38.840 --> 0:15:41.480 of our little core group of friends, uh to, my 0:15:41.520 --> 0:15:45.520 buddies had one, and and I remember I distinctly remember 0:15:45.560 --> 0:15:48.200 I remember where I was when My one buddy was like, 0:15:48.480 --> 0:15:50.560 you know, I was like, did you call Butler? It 0:15:50.640 --> 0:15:52.480 was our friend Matt Butler, and I was like yeah. 0:15:52.520 --> 0:15:54.320 He didn't answer. He's like, well, just you can send 0:15:54.360 --> 0:15:56.000 him a text message and tell him we're gonna be 0:15:56.080 --> 0:16:00.920 I'm like, what, what is what is that? He's like, 0:16:01.000 --> 0:16:03.200 you can just text him the address we're gonna be. 0:16:03.200 --> 0:16:05.520 I'm like, that's the dumbest thing ever. Why don't I 0:16:05.560 --> 0:16:07.840 just I'll just wait a little bit and I'll call him, 0:16:08.160 --> 0:16:10.080 Like why would you? I couldn't. I couldn't at the 0:16:10.080 --> 0:16:12.240 time my wrap my head around the fact that why 0:16:12.280 --> 0:16:14.720 wouldn't you? Why would you sit there and text a 0:16:14.760 --> 0:16:17.120 message when you can just call somebody and have a 0:16:17.160 --> 0:16:21.440 conversation about and and to this day, there's a time 0:16:21.480 --> 0:16:23.840 and a place for text messaging, right, but there's a 0:16:23.880 --> 0:16:26.160 time and a place for an actual phone call, and 0:16:26.280 --> 0:16:29.280 less and less people want to get on the phone 0:16:29.280 --> 0:16:32.480 and talk about something and peopext back and forth. Twenty seven. 0:16:33.440 --> 0:16:37.240 I hate it two thoughts. I hate group texts. I 0:16:37.320 --> 0:16:39.600 hate I hate him. I held off for the longest 0:16:39.640 --> 0:16:44.960 time on participating in them, on sending them, and and 0:16:45.000 --> 0:16:48.040 then you know, I this group, like my wife is 0:16:48.120 --> 0:16:50.640 just in a million and like in like this group 0:16:50.800 --> 0:16:53.760 or our friends in Wyoming, and like we got we 0:16:53.800 --> 0:16:56.480 got a group text for our pick of the week pool, 0:16:56.520 --> 0:16:58.960 we got a group text for our you know couple, 0:16:59.040 --> 0:17:01.480 the couples that are friends, and we got a group 0:17:01.560 --> 0:17:05.920 text for you know whatever. There's another another big one 0:17:06.000 --> 0:17:08.679 off of our baseball team and another baseball team, and 0:17:08.720 --> 0:17:12.399 it's just like you know, and there's times and I'll 0:17:12.880 --> 0:17:15.280 when I was like yesterday, all the group text was 0:17:15.280 --> 0:17:17.560 going because of sledding. You know, the kids were out. 0:17:17.840 --> 0:17:19.679 I get out, I get out of here radio, and 0:17:19.760 --> 0:17:23.600 I've got twenty seven text messages. It's all from this 0:17:23.640 --> 0:17:26.000 one group. I don't go back and read all those. No, 0:17:26.240 --> 0:17:29.119 I just don't. No, No, there's that one. And the 0:17:29.160 --> 0:17:31.679 other thing that bugs me is when people want to 0:17:31.840 --> 0:17:36.840 want to like, you know, make big decisions or you know, 0:17:36.960 --> 0:17:39.639 want to talk a you know, some major thing that 0:17:39.760 --> 0:17:42.000 it's like, dude, it would be much faster to pick 0:17:42.040 --> 0:17:44.560 the phone up here and talk back and forth. 0:17:45.320 --> 0:17:45.439 Right. 0:17:45.720 --> 0:17:49.000 I agree. I couldn't agree more. But you also hear 0:17:49.160 --> 0:17:53.679 like you know, a certain generation they just let us 0:17:53.800 --> 0:17:56.119 make major decisions over like hey, I'm breaking up with 0:17:56.160 --> 0:18:00.159 you like, oh yeah, come on, that's the fault of 0:18:00.240 --> 0:18:05.439 text message is allowed a like a non like you know, 0:18:05.560 --> 0:18:09.280 human human contact conversation. So it's you know, there's it 0:18:09.320 --> 0:18:12.280 doesn't it's not as hard. Yeah, it's harder if you 0:18:12.280 --> 0:18:13.959 got to tell I used to. I say this all 0:18:14.000 --> 0:18:16.639 the time too when I had my training business. You know, 0:18:16.640 --> 0:18:19.040 at the time, kids would text like five minutes before 0:18:19.080 --> 0:18:21.160 their workout was supposed to start, like I'm not gonna 0:18:21.200 --> 0:18:23.320 make it like no, no, no, yeah, you if you're going 0:18:23.359 --> 0:18:25.920 to cancel a workout, you must call me and go 0:18:26.000 --> 0:18:29.639 through the one hundred and twenty seconds of uncomfortableness and 0:18:29.720 --> 0:18:32.480 me kind of you know, getting on you about canceling 0:18:32.480 --> 0:18:36.160 my workout that and go that late. But yeah, it's yeah, 0:18:36.240 --> 0:18:38.400 they just do it because it's just it's it's kind 0:18:38.400 --> 0:18:42.080 of an easier thing to do. But I sent you 0:18:42.119 --> 0:18:43.280 a text about that, coach. 0:18:43.640 --> 0:18:44.240 Oh god. 0:18:44.760 --> 0:18:46.680 Yeah, Now that is the world we live in, where 0:18:47.080 --> 0:18:49.040 I sent you a text or you didn't get the email. Yeah, 0:18:49.080 --> 0:18:51.679 you didn't get the email. Yeah, I mean between texts 0:18:51.680 --> 0:18:54.920 and emails, I went with the average amount of of 0:18:54.960 --> 0:18:58.760 those sort of messages I get, or the average person 0:18:58.800 --> 0:19:01.680 gets in a day because it's it's a hundreds hundreds. 0:19:01.800 --> 0:19:04.359 I just wish you would all go into one inbox 0:19:05.240 --> 0:19:07.600 and I could just see it all. I'd see my text. 0:19:07.680 --> 0:19:10.320 But the problem is with emails. It's like the inquire 0:19:10.440 --> 0:19:13.679 I get so and you it's same probably here for 0:19:13.760 --> 0:19:18.000 you at iHeart. There is so much junk mail that 0:19:18.080 --> 0:19:21.120 comes in there and muddies the waters and pushes good 0:19:21.160 --> 0:19:23.800 emails down if you end up missing it. Yeah, I 0:19:23.840 --> 0:19:27.680 know my work email here, I I because I'll get 0:19:27.880 --> 0:19:32.439 eighty junk emails or pitches or something. They're all junk. 0:19:32.480 --> 0:19:35.360 And then you missed you missed your email a day 0:19:35.440 --> 0:19:37.600 or two, and then it's like, did you get my email? 0:19:37.680 --> 0:19:40.520 No I didn't. Oh wait, let me go back and look. 0:19:41.520 --> 0:19:44.480 Oh there it is like but it's three three hundred 0:19:44.480 --> 0:19:47.040 and fifty emails down right, you know. And I'm not 0:19:47.080 --> 0:19:50.000 I'm not joking. It's just like, uh, and then you're right. 0:19:50.080 --> 0:19:54.000 It's funny you mentioned about the Facebook messenger somehow last 0:19:54.080 --> 0:19:56.720 it was last week. I'm just sitting there watching TV. 0:19:56.920 --> 0:19:59.480 I got Facebook up, so I just like I never 0:19:59.640 --> 0:20:02.360 check Facebook men, So I go down the rabbit hole 0:20:02.400 --> 0:20:04.960 of well, I scroll through. I mean, I got messages 0:20:05.000 --> 0:20:07.880 from people I hadn't heard from forever sending me hey 0:20:07.920 --> 0:20:10.639 I saw your column, like yeah, you know, and I'm like, 0:20:10.720 --> 0:20:16.359 oh man, I'm bummed out I didn't respect message. I'm like, like, 0:20:16.440 --> 0:20:19.960 I don't. Too many I got. I got text messages. 0:20:20.040 --> 0:20:24.320 I got an email, a personal email, a professional email. Heck, 0:20:24.359 --> 0:20:32.240 I've got an email here at iHeart is like percent 0:20:32.320 --> 0:20:34.680 of them or I'll just be asked. Your day could 0:20:34.720 --> 0:20:39.320 go on perfectly fine without them. But I got another 0:20:39.359 --> 0:20:41.840 rule to where if you send me an email and 0:20:41.880 --> 0:20:45.800 it's over three lines, I'm not reading it. Yeah, I'm 0:20:45.840 --> 0:20:48.280 just just not like so like, yeah, send me, Hey, 0:20:48.320 --> 0:20:50.919 let's let's talk about this, okay, and then then it's important. 0:20:50.960 --> 0:20:53.560 But if it's like some or a text message, that's 0:20:53.960 --> 0:20:57.520 that due. My mom is the worst. That's sending email 0:20:57.680 --> 0:21:00.600 linked text messages. It's a it's a running it's a 0:21:00.680 --> 0:21:03.040 running joke in our family. It was so funny. 0:21:03.119 --> 0:21:04.040 We've got a couple of calls. 0:21:04.080 --> 0:21:06.040 This is great. Here, let's go to a Greg way 0:21:06.119 --> 0:21:07.920