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Speaker 1: Alongside the one, the only, Jason Williams, the third day

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Speaker 2: I am good. So it's that time of year.

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Speaker 3: Everyone's getting packages and packages and packages and packages delivered

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Speaker 3: to their house, which means you're a soft target for

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Speaker 3: porch pirates, right those folks that they drive up, they

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Speaker 3: jump out of the car, steal your package, jump.

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Speaker 1: In the car, and none you can do about it. Well,

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Speaker 1: we'll flip off your ring camera for you one exactly

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Speaker 1: like a face at it. Right. Well, I think there's

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Speaker 1: a lot of people out there, I'm certainly one of

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Speaker 1: them to think, you know, the like it's just some

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Speaker 1: good old fashioned street justice. Have some frontier.

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Speaker 2: Justice would maybe stop this? And is there something we

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Speaker 1: Can we booby trap a package and allow it to

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Speaker 1: blow up on them? If we've seen the videos online,

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Speaker 1: they're hilarious and I think justified.

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Speaker 2: But is it legal? And join us right now? Is

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Speaker 2: attorney to the Stars.

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Speaker 1: He's the first m an attorney here in town, the one,

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Speaker 1: the only Jack grind Or Jack Howell are you hey?

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Speaker 4: Roc?

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Speaker 5: Are you doing good luck to your bombers this weekend?

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Speaker 5: I want to make sure I get that.

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Speaker 1: In before I appreciate it. Yeah, it's a big one.

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Speaker 1: All comes down to this, we'll good, well, thank you.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, and you wrote a good, a great op

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Speaker 1: ed for the the Inquiry here talking about that, and.

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Speaker 2: You know a lot of folks I feel I feel

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Speaker 1: It's like, you know, one way to to stop this

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Speaker 2: But legally speaking, can we do such things?

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Speaker 5: Well, yes and no, or maybe I should say no

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Speaker 4: Be honest with you.

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Speaker 5: Injure somebody and you do it intentionally, and sometimes the

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Speaker 1: But is everybody's seen online some great videos. They steal

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Speaker 5: So I don't think there's gonna be liability, you know,

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Speaker 5: And it sounds a little counterintuitive, but but that really

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Speaker 1: Jack Loves Your Love your op ed on susame dot

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Speaker 1: com and you touched on everything you just said here.

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Speaker 1: You touched on that in your column. What I'm confused

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Speaker 5: And you're you're a trespasser, uh, and therefore you are

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Speaker 5: and that means that the homeowner is is not liable

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Speaker 5: That means, you know, having an anvile drop on their

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Speaker 5: It was a man and a woman working together the woman.

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Speaker 5: And actually they probably could, just Kevin was was clearly

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Speaker 1: But using your rake example, Jack, just to kind of

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Speaker 1: sum it all up. If there's just happened to be

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Speaker 1: Well, Jack will listen. It has been great. We appreciate

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Speaker 5: Well, I'm glad to be of service, Rocky, And I'm

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Speaker 1: Yes, Well, Jack has been great, brother, I really appreciate

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Speaker 1: How many times has Jack Grinder covered my butt? Exactly?

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Speaker 2: On this day in History, nineteen ninety two.

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Speaker 1: How about this, The first SMS text message is sent. Uh, well, Bob,

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Speaker 1: This is great. Here, let's go to a Greg way

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Speaker 1: Got, Rocky?

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Speaker 5: You were talking about remembering a roadary phone and I

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, the eight people that could be on the

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Speaker 1: But I remember, like, you know, my my mom and

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Speaker 1: Eddie's out and alongside Jason Williams and Jason. Eddie and

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Speaker 1: I often talk about AI. You and I when you're

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Speaker 1: filling in talk about AI at all? Yeah, about it

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Speaker 1: because it is a big thing. I think a lot

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Speaker 1: it going to replace them? Because you do see it

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Speaker 1: replacing some jobs out there, and seemingly, ever increasingly more

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Speaker 1: and more tasks that it can do better than any human.

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Speaker 1: And you see a lot of the industry is now

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Speaker 1: using AI and chat GPT to do kind of small tasks,

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Speaker 1: now mid size tasks. And I mean you're talking about

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Speaker 1: going up against something that you know knows everything right.

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Speaker 1: It is a database of all the written material about

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Speaker 2: So it's hard to compete with.

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Speaker 1: So but again you see it use more and more

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Speaker 1: different places now from what I'm reading, Jason, it's being

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Speaker 1: used to help choose Christmas gifts. Yes, we can't even

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Speaker 1: choose our own Christmas gifts anymore. Join us right now

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Speaker 1: to discuss such thing as Lisa W. Millers. She is

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Speaker 1: a researcher and author. Lisa, Welcome to the program. How

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Speaker 1: are you good?

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Speaker 6: Thanks for having me back?

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Speaker 1: Very good. Yeah, So I guess I mean is this

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Speaker 1: I imagine a kind of a newer thing now. But

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Speaker 1: what specifically are are people doing in terms of using

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Speaker 6: Well, I just got a survey back at about a thousand consumers,

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Speaker 6: and basically the consumers are saying, yes, you nailed it.

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Speaker 6: They are using AI to help find the perfect gift,

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Speaker 6: and it's just gifts in general. But the other thing

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Speaker 6: is it's more personalized gifts. But the interesting big insight

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Speaker 6: was when I look at it, like this year versus

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Speaker 6: last year, what consumers are doing a lot less with

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Speaker 6: AI is trying to find the best deal. So because

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Speaker 6: if you think about it, if you get all those

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Speaker 6: links and chat tobt or any of the other AI platforms,

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Speaker 6: you click on the link and the price is different

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Speaker 6: or it's out of stock, and so it's actually being

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Speaker 6: less reliable for the deals and the best prices. But

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Speaker 6: when it comes to finding the right gift that's really personalized,

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Speaker 6: consumers are all in.

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Speaker 1: So I guess for an example, like someone's like, okay,

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Speaker 1: am I mother in law. I don't know what to

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Speaker 1: get her. So you go, okay, my mother in law

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Speaker 1: is you know, sixty years old. She lives in the Midwest.

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Speaker 1: She likes horses. Boom. You just plug all these things

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Speaker 1: in and it spits you out what they think is

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Speaker 1: a good gift. Is that how it works?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, exactly, and so yeah, So imagine a child, a parent,

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Speaker 6: a coworker. If you can just put in a few

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Speaker 6: think of it like creating a little persona like this

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Speaker 6: person loves the outdoors. This person loves you know, different

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Speaker 6: colors or bright colors or more black and white colors,

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Speaker 6: you know, for clothing. And so you put in all

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Speaker 6: these little descriptions like a little narrative. And the interesting

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Speaker 6: thing is it's kind of the way our brains work anyway,

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Speaker 6: is that you know, we know the people were buying

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Speaker 6: gifts for. But sometimes it's just hard. Websites today they're

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Speaker 6: very very practical. You have to say, oh, I want

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Speaker 6: an appliance or I need a gadget. So today it's

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Speaker 6: actually it's interesting you can create I think you can

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Speaker 6: create a pretty personalized gift.

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Speaker 1: Lisa. Do you even in some cases do you even

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Speaker 1: have to put even that much information and say, if

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Speaker 1: you know, I'm you know, I'm constantly searching for baseball

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Speaker 1: equipment for my son's baseball apparel equipment, Like I am

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Speaker 1: looking for a gift, you know, I just if I

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Speaker 1: went into you know, one of the AI software and said,

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Speaker 1: what's a good gift for my son? Could it even

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Speaker 1: pull some of my search history or algorithms and see like,

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Speaker 1: oh yeah, here's a baseball one on one T shirt

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Speaker 1: that he would.

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Speaker 6: Want or something well that I think that is like

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Speaker 6: the probably billion trillion dollar question right now, because right

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Speaker 6: now it is based on it's based on more of

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Speaker 6: what you're prompting it with. You know, what I think

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Speaker 6: is so funny in today's world is our language has

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Speaker 6: actually even changed due to AI. So instead of saying,

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Speaker 6: let's pop in a question, we say what's the right

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Speaker 6: prompt you know, and so the language of how we

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Speaker 6: even talk about it's interesting. But to answer is that

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Speaker 6: those integrations now, if it's in a chat, like if

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Speaker 6: you're in one of the chat modes, it would go

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Speaker 6: a little bit about about that, but relative to all

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Speaker 6: of your browsing history and all that, that's not really

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Speaker 6: a part of how it's working today. So for your son,

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Speaker 6: you would have to put in he likes baseball, he's

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Speaker 6: ten years old. I live, you know, in where you live,

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Speaker 6: and so those are the things that will just provide

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Speaker 6: better answers, because otherwise you'll get super generic and that

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Speaker 6: may just be frustrating not helpful.

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Speaker 2: Lisa W.

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Speaker 1: Miller's Our Guests. He's a researcher and author us. He

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Speaker 1: writes and discuss a lot about AI. So I'm confused,

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Speaker 1: Lisa on how do the producers of these products?

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Speaker 4: Right?

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Speaker 1: The companies, how are they reacting if they know that

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Speaker 1: people are using AI to select Christmas gifts? What in

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Speaker 1: turn are they doe to make you buy more of

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Speaker 1: their stuff?

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Speaker 4: Oh?

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Speaker 6: And that again is the billion dollar question. And so

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Speaker 6: recently Walmart actually is partnering with open Ai and they created,

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Speaker 6: of course a little sparky which is their icon, the

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Speaker 6: little yellow star icon, little button there, and that will

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Speaker 6: help you tie your AI chats to Walmart. But so

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Speaker 6: today the retailers they are kind of all, I don't say,

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Speaker 6: up in arms, but the retailers today are definitely a

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Speaker 6: little concerned and worried about it. Because it used to

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Speaker 6: be Google search companies would pay to say, hey, if

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Speaker 6: you type in a coffee maker, you know, I want,

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Speaker 6: you know, williams Noma to come up, So I'm going

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Speaker 6: to pay Google to put Williams Noma's coffee maker at

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Speaker 6: the top or the cured coffee maker at the top,

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Speaker 6: and marketers paid for that. Well, that model doesn't exist

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Speaker 6: in chat GPT, at least not yet, and hopefully you

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Speaker 6: know that will be a whole different thing. But so

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Speaker 6: those searches are really in open AI, are not sponsored,

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Speaker 6: and so that's a really refreshing thing for consumers. But

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Speaker 6: the retailers and product manufacturers are absolutely trying to say,

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Speaker 6: how do I get selected first?

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Speaker 1: Well, along those same lines too, isn't Walmart and Target

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Speaker 1: both working on partnering with some AI organizations?

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Speaker 6: They are, Yeah, they are, And so what's happening is

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Speaker 6: Walmart will create it's an algorithm through open AI, and

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Speaker 6: then Target will create their algorithm through open AI. But

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Speaker 6: they're going to be different. So it would just be

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Speaker 6: like me putting in my chat versus you putting in

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Speaker 6: your chat. What it fits out is going to be

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Speaker 6: different because what I put the questions I put in

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Speaker 6: are going to be different.

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Speaker 1: So they say, here's the million dollar question, and I

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Speaker 1: guess maybe it's a two points. It really delves into

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Speaker 1: do people want a gift that they like or is

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Speaker 1: it the thought that counts. Do people would they rather

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Speaker 1: get a gift that their loved one or friend sat

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Speaker 1: down and thought and thought about them, and thought about

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Speaker 1: their relationship and thought about what they really want as

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Speaker 1: a gift, or that person just plugged in the chat

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Speaker 1: GBT and got them a gift.

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Speaker 2: What what do people say is they would rather have?

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Speaker 6: Well, it's so's that's a great question. I The short

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Speaker 6: answer is, in today's world, and I think this is

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Speaker 6: a big insight, people are prioritizing the right gift over

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Speaker 6: the cheapest gift because everybody's talking about, yes, the economy

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Speaker 6: is not doing well, but it's not about just finding

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Speaker 6: the best deal or the best lowest price. You want

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Speaker 6: to have a gift that they're that person's going to like.

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Speaker 6: So that's point one. But to answer your question more directly,

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Speaker 6: it's it there's no universal answer. One of the other

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Speaker 6: projects I can't wait to share with you guys, I'm

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Speaker 6: working on this idea of people are like embarrassed to

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Speaker 6: say that they're using chat ChiPT. Not everybody, but there's

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Speaker 6: a group of people that are like, oh man, I

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Speaker 6: don't want anybody to know. I feel like I'm breaking

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Speaker 6: some code, moral code, that I'm you know, using chat

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Speaker 6: GPT to help with this, but that's not everybody, and

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Speaker 6: so they're they're definitely people that are like, Wow, this

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Speaker 6: is awesome, this thoughtful gift is better than I could

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Speaker 6: have ever come up with on my own, and that

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Speaker 6: so some people believe that, but then others are very

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Speaker 6: much like, oh, they're kind of just you know, sneaking

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Speaker 6: away in a closet and just like, okay, chat GPT

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Speaker 6: helped me, but they don't want anybody to know they

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Speaker 6: use chat GPT. So we're in this really weird inflection

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Speaker 6: point about how people feel, how it reflects on yourself

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Speaker 6: if people find out that they use CHATCHI people.

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Speaker 1: You've been doing We've been googling that stuff, I mean,

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Speaker 1: is it not really the concept doesn't any I mean

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Speaker 1: I've googled like birthday gift ideas from my wife before,

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Speaker 1: like anniversary gifts. I feel like this is a like

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Speaker 1: a step too far that I feel I can see

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Speaker 1: how thoughtful you got me this get you didn't think

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Speaker 1: of it. The machine thought of it, right, And it's

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Speaker 1: a good point.

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Speaker 6: Here's the thing, but it's a great question. Is this

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Speaker 6: is the debate about a I love it. This is

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Speaker 6: a debate about AI right now, because we all have

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Speaker 6: been using Google search exactly what you just said, I

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Speaker 6: need help with a birthday gift, right, and it's given

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Speaker 6: us choices. But but now we can actually get a

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Speaker 6: better answer by providing more information. So whoever's gave the

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Speaker 6: gift actually might like it better, but somehow we feel

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Speaker 6: worse about it. It's just an interesting psychology. I can't

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Speaker 6: wait to keep tracking it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it is.

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Speaker 1: It's certainly a very interesting just thought exercise of I

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Speaker 1: just wonder in the future, will we be as humans

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Speaker 1: be able to do anything without help. I just to

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Speaker 1: be able to process a thought and do critical thinking

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Speaker 1: and justify the plus minuses and make a selection, or

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Speaker 1: are we gonna need help all the time. But that's

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Speaker 1: for another yea, Yeah.

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Speaker 6: No, I was just gonna say I actually have data

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Speaker 6: on that, because there are people that actually are believing

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Speaker 6: that AI is helping them be more creative and more

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Speaker 6: have better critical thinking, because it's like a thought partner.

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Speaker 6: But again, on the other side, there are people that

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Speaker 6: are saying, wow, I just did not thinking anymore. So

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Speaker 6: I think it's we as humans have to control how

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Speaker 6: we're using it. If we just spit something in there

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Speaker 6: and copy paste it and put it someplace, you know,

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Speaker 6: like in an email, then no, I think that's going

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Speaker 6: to make us all dumber. But if we use it

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Speaker 6: as a more you know, asking questions and thinking more

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Speaker 6: about it, then that's a different outcome. So the jury

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Speaker 6: is still out for sure.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I just worry that people are going to take

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Speaker 1: the easy route. What gets this done quicker so I

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Speaker 1: can get back to scroll on Instagram. I just I

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Speaker 1: feel like that's that's what's a danger here. But Lisa,

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Speaker 1: we got to run. But really appreciate your time on this.

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Speaker 1: If folks want to find out more about you and

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Speaker 1: what you do, where can they go? What can they do?

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Speaker 6: Yes, you can just look up Lisa W. Miller and

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Speaker 6: then you can use the hashtag journey back to joy

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Speaker 6: and they'll find all my content.

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Speaker 1: All right, I'll type that in chat GBT. You know,

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Speaker 1: I'm just kidding, Lisa. But we appreciate your time and

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Speaker 1: maybe we'll do it again. Thank you, Thanks Lisa, Thank

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Speaker 1: you Bye. It is interesting, right, because that's what I was. Oh, no,

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Speaker 1: just enhances my ability to do work? Is enhances?

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Speaker 2: Or is it kind of doing it for you? It

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Speaker 2: seems to me like.

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Speaker 1: You make a great point about Yeah, like we we've

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Speaker 1: all typed stuff into Google and and and all that.

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Speaker 1: But I just feel like this is the next step

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Speaker 1: of removing ourselves from the whole process even more. I

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Speaker 1: think there's more bad than good with AI. I think so.

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Speaker 1: But I'm I'm kind of I'm old school. I'm kind

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Speaker 1: of old schooler. Yeah exactly. I just wonder, I do

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Speaker 1: I wonder do we get to the point where can

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Speaker 1: we do anything? Can we problem solved? Can we even

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Speaker 1: have an even just a general opinion about something without

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Speaker 1: typing it in your your device, Because I mean, the

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Speaker 1: mind is like any It's not a muscle, but it's

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Speaker 1: like a muscle, and that it needs to be exercised.

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Speaker 1: And if you're constantly not doing critical thinking an exercise

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Speaker 1: in your mind, you lose the ability to do that.

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Speaker 1: And then it's like somebody says, hey, rock, what do

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Speaker 1: you think about this?

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Speaker 7: Right?

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Speaker 1: Well, I don't know, and everyone just kind of like

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Speaker 1: in and see what it says. That's no fun, that's

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Speaker 1: no good week week all.

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Speaker 9: Hi?

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Speaker 1: Welcome back Rocky alongside Jason Williams coming.

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Speaker 2: Up at the top of the hour. This is pretty cool.

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Speaker 1: We have the head coach of the Miami Redhax, Chuck Martin. Okay,

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Speaker 1: it's heading to his third straight MAC title game. A

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Speaker 1: crazy season. I don't have him, you know, talk about

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Speaker 1: all the ins and outs of it. But as seasons

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Speaker 1: are hard enough dealing with, you know, the ups and

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Speaker 1: the downs, and the injuries and all this and that,

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Speaker 1: but a few other things having to pop up with

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Speaker 1: this program this year.

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Speaker 2: And in spite of all that, the RedHawks.

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Speaker 1: Are going to the underrated Martin man. That guy is

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Speaker 1: just very a steady hand there at Miami. Yes, and

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Speaker 1: uh so, yeah, we're gonna talk to him, not just

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Speaker 1: about his team, but also some of the bigger issues

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Speaker 1: of college football right now, which brings us to our topic.

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Speaker 2: Now I'd like to discuss with you.

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Speaker 1: Yes, you know, because the new the new playoff rankings

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Speaker 1: came out last night, right, Yeah, so, and I'm pulling

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Speaker 1: them up as we as we speak here. I I

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Speaker 1: get here's my my main thing I want to say

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Speaker 1: on it. Like usually when you get to the end

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Speaker 1: of something, that's when it gets That's when I'm supposed

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Speaker 1: to get really exciting, and the payoff is supposed to

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Speaker 1: be huge and it's supposed to be dialed in, right,

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Speaker 1: I feel like we're we we had all a great

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Speaker 1: college football season, and it's like, right at the end

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Speaker 1: when it's supposed to be fun and everyone's into and

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Speaker 1: everyone understands what's going on, there's so much ambiguity and

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Speaker 1: craziness between the coaches leaving and and you know, and

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Speaker 1: and players opting now and then with the whole CFP,

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Speaker 1: it's it's so hard to understand. And I'm this is

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Speaker 1: my job to understand the college football playoffs and all

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Speaker 1: the things they look at, and even I can't understand

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Speaker 1: and justify some of the rankings of these teams. I mean,

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Speaker 1: point a in the ACC title game, Okay, a seven

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Speaker 1: and five duke team is going to play a ten

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Speaker 1: and two Virginia team, a seven and five team, and

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Speaker 1: none of that. Neither of those will will make the

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Speaker 1: playoff even they win, even if they win, so but

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Speaker 1: Miami is likely going to get I just feel like, again,

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Speaker 1: it's so convoluted and confusing. Is so was supposed to

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Speaker 1: be exciting, and it's like everyone's like, what huh, what's

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Speaker 1: going on with this, and then you throw on top

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Speaker 1: of that, you're irish getting bumped down a spot after

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Speaker 1: a twenty eight point win. They get bumped down to

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Speaker 1: from nine to ten. Basically them in Alabama get flip flopped.

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Speaker 1: Alabama basically had to go forward and fourth and yeah,

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Speaker 1: so you make that one makes sense. I know a

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Speaker 1: lot of I know a lot of folks on social

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Speaker 1: media were ticked about that one, and rightfully so. I

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Speaker 1: mean notre dame with them, really, I think a much.

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Speaker 1: They have a much better resume in terms of the

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Speaker 1: teams they've beaten and what they've beaten them by Alabama

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Speaker 1: squeaking by what Auburn they squeak by. I don't have

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Speaker 1: their schedule. There's a couple other teams that you would

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Speaker 1: think they would have beaten handily that they just barely beat. So,

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Speaker 1: you know, a lot of a lot of buzz about

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Speaker 1: a SEC bias and the whole thing is just it.

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Speaker 1: I don't find it to be. I mean, yeah, if

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Speaker 1: you were a fan of a handful of teams, but

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Speaker 1: unlike basketball, like you know you are not, it's not

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Speaker 1: the incentive is not there to think like, oh, my

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Speaker 1: team's got a shot to make the tournament. Now, Now,

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Speaker 1: you know, if you're a fan of a really good

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Speaker 1: mid major basketball program, you're not gonna win the national championship.

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Speaker 1: But I know my team's got a shot to make

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Speaker 1: the tournament. I know my team's got a shot to

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Speaker 1: maybe win a game, maybe even get too sweet sixteen.

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Speaker 1: That's not football like we like. It really ticks, especially

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Speaker 1: as a fan of lifelong fan of Marshall Thundering Herd.

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Speaker 1: Like the little guy is rewarded in so many sports,

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Speaker 1: or is really championed. The underdog is championed in so

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Speaker 1: many except for college football. Yes, and it's it's so frustrating,

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Speaker 1: so fruv it's champion on the on the basketball side,

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Speaker 1: at least on college basketball side. Now you can argue, like,

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Speaker 1: you know, the underdog is not really champion in Major

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Speaker 1: League Baseball, right, you know, it's the Dodgers and the

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Speaker 1: Yankees and they're Blue Jet, you know, all the big

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Speaker 1: money teams, and then the Reds and the Pirates are

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Speaker 1: all kind of like, eh, whatever, you don't you're you know,

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Speaker 1: you you're you're left out in the cold because there's

870
00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:23,719
Speaker 1: no salary cap, right, But I don't know, man, it

871
00:45:23,880 --> 00:45:26,320
Speaker 1: just I feel like part of the beauty of college

872
00:45:26,360 --> 00:45:30,920
Speaker 1: sports has always been the the underdog aspect of it.

873
00:45:31,160 --> 00:45:35,160
Speaker 1: And like that the underdog is completely and I don't know,

874
00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:37,759
Speaker 1: I'm not just talking about even like group of five

875
00:45:37,840 --> 00:45:40,760
Speaker 1: types of teams. I'm talking about even really a great

876
00:45:40,760 --> 00:45:44,080
Speaker 1: majority of the power for types of teams are are

877
00:45:44,560 --> 00:45:47,200
Speaker 1: really kind of cut out of this as well. They are.

878
00:45:47,480 --> 00:45:50,719
Speaker 1: But you know, I will play devil's advocate for that because,

879
00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:54,680
Speaker 1: especially in this scenario, one of the because a group

880
00:45:54,680 --> 00:45:57,080
Speaker 1: of five team is guaranteed to get in under this

881
00:45:57,280 --> 00:46:00,520
Speaker 1: under the new rules and regulations of it, correct, which

882
00:46:00,560 --> 00:46:03,360
Speaker 1: is going to be this year, what likely a possibly

883
00:46:03,360 --> 00:46:08,560
Speaker 1: what Tulane Tulane is right now Texas Currently Tulane is

884
00:46:08,600 --> 00:46:11,719
Speaker 1: the highest ranked group of five team. They are in

885
00:46:11,760 --> 00:46:14,640
Speaker 1: there at number twenty at ten. And so my devil's

886
00:46:14,640 --> 00:46:17,960
Speaker 1: advergate argument to your argument about and I understand what

887
00:46:18,040 --> 00:46:20,279
Speaker 1: you're saying about having the a G five team in

888
00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:23,480
Speaker 1: is Notre Dame is likely going to get left out

889
00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:24,920
Speaker 1: of this playoff, but.

890
00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:27,600
Speaker 2: Tulane gets in. I don't disagree with that.

891
00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:30,279
Speaker 1: Got you got a Notre Dame team, that's that's you know,

892
00:46:30,320 --> 00:46:32,400
Speaker 1: gone ten and two. Their first two losses were the

893
00:46:32,440 --> 00:46:35,200
Speaker 1: first two losses of the season. You know, new line,

894
00:46:35,520 --> 00:46:39,799
Speaker 1: brand new quarterback, you know, and he lost to a

895
00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:41,719
Speaker 1: Miami team by and he lost to Texas A and

896
00:46:41,880 --> 00:46:44,120
Speaker 1: M by one point. I agree, And you don't go

897
00:46:44,160 --> 00:46:46,319
Speaker 1: to the playoff because because we got to get we

898
00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:49,319
Speaker 1: gotta finally get Tulane in s Yeah. See, And I

899
00:46:49,360 --> 00:46:52,439
Speaker 1: don't in the way the format is currently, I don't

900
00:46:52,480 --> 00:46:56,960
Speaker 1: disagree with that so much. But I think this is

901
00:46:57,000 --> 00:46:59,840
Speaker 1: a year where you could I think a year like

902
00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:03,239
Speaker 1: this makes the argument for expanding even beyond me. This

903
00:47:03,360 --> 00:47:05,800
Speaker 1: is this the first year for twelve teams, second the

904
00:47:05,840 --> 00:47:08,560
Speaker 1: second year, okay, yeah, And I think this is the

905
00:47:08,640 --> 00:47:10,880
Speaker 1: year where you can make the argument for expanding to

906
00:47:11,440 --> 00:47:13,960
Speaker 1: sixteen because there's gonna be a lot of good teams

907
00:47:14,040 --> 00:47:14,719
Speaker 1: left out of this.

908
00:47:15,280 --> 00:47:17,920
Speaker 2: I understand what you're saying.

909
00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:21,360
Speaker 1: But then the arguments we're gonna have the same argument.

910
00:47:21,400 --> 00:47:24,280
Speaker 2: It's going to be about the seventeenth and eighteen nineteen teams.

911
00:47:24,360 --> 00:47:24,480
Speaker 4: Right.

912
00:47:24,760 --> 00:47:26,640
Speaker 1: I just feel like we got to get to we've

913
00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:28,600
Speaker 1: got to get the committee out of this. So there's

914
00:47:28,640 --> 00:47:31,240
Speaker 1: got to get a way to get the committee because

915
00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:35,800
Speaker 1: they're so inconsistent on what they value in some rankings,

916
00:47:36,080 --> 00:47:39,359
Speaker 1: they value eye tests. In other words, how does this

917
00:47:39,400 --> 00:47:42,399
Speaker 1: team look and in a theoretical match, who would win

918
00:47:42,640 --> 00:47:43,919
Speaker 1: if it won by eye test?

919
00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:45,720
Speaker 2: Notre Dame passes the test.

920
00:47:45,800 --> 00:47:48,799
Speaker 1: But head to head and I understand this argument, it's

921
00:47:48,840 --> 00:47:53,160
Speaker 1: hard hard to battle that argument. When Miami beat Notre Dame,

922
00:47:53,200 --> 00:47:54,759
Speaker 1: it's hard to say Notre Dame should go in the

923
00:47:54,760 --> 00:47:58,040
Speaker 1: playoff over Miami. I get that, but there's there's so

924
00:47:58,120 --> 00:48:00,920
Speaker 1: much inconsistency from week to week, year to year on

925
00:48:01,000 --> 00:48:02,640
Speaker 1: what the committee values.

926
00:48:02,719 --> 00:48:03,480
Speaker 2: That's what I don't like.

927
00:48:03,600 --> 00:48:09,160
Speaker 1: Well exactly, now you've gotten me thinking, because then that

928
00:48:09,160 --> 00:48:12,880
Speaker 1: that leads to there is no uniformity on the non

929
00:48:12,960 --> 00:48:17,279
Speaker 1: conference schedule, right, so schools can you know, like what

930
00:48:17,440 --> 00:48:21,600
Speaker 1: is the incentive? Like what Ohio State place Texas? You know, So,

931
00:48:21,719 --> 00:48:24,520
Speaker 1: like they go out and they schedule a big team.

932
00:48:24,560 --> 00:48:26,880
Speaker 1: Obviously Notre Dame is an independent, They're going to schedule

933
00:48:26,920 --> 00:48:29,040
Speaker 1: a lot of heavyweights. But then there's some of these

934
00:48:29,040 --> 00:48:31,480
Speaker 1: other teams like that they don't schedule anyone, they don't

935
00:48:31,480 --> 00:48:34,640
Speaker 1: schedule any power conferences in their non conference and it's

936
00:48:34,640 --> 00:48:38,640
Speaker 1: just like Indiana, great example. But it's like so then

937
00:48:39,520 --> 00:48:42,440
Speaker 1: and again this is this goes to the bigger bigger

938
00:48:42,520 --> 00:48:46,319
Speaker 1: picture of there is no governing body here, there is

939
00:48:46,400 --> 00:48:49,040
Speaker 1: no commissioner, there is no set of rules, and you

940
00:48:49,080 --> 00:48:51,719
Speaker 1: can get down the rabbit hole of you know, there's

941
00:48:51,760 --> 00:48:55,200
Speaker 1: no salary cap, there's no like who's paying billion dollar

942
00:48:55,280 --> 00:49:00,000
Speaker 1: industry that has volunteers that that run it, that's to come.

943
00:49:00,360 --> 00:49:04,319
Speaker 2: It's crazy now. And to your point right there about.

944
00:49:04,040 --> 00:49:07,400
Speaker 1: Texas, because yeah, you and Steve Sarkisian if you heard

945
00:49:07,480 --> 00:49:09,120
Speaker 1: him talk, who's the head coach of Texas?

946
00:49:09,440 --> 00:49:11,520
Speaker 2: He paid that point, which is, hey, yeah.

947
00:49:11,360 --> 00:49:14,040
Speaker 1: We're nine and three, yep, but one of our losses

948
00:49:14,040 --> 00:49:17,080
Speaker 1: in the first game of the season was the Ohio State,

949
00:49:17,400 --> 00:49:19,880
Speaker 1: the number one team in the nation right now, and

950
00:49:19,960 --> 00:49:22,600
Speaker 1: he said, and I agree with him. Had we scheduled

951
00:49:23,239 --> 00:49:26,960
Speaker 1: Old Dominion week one and beat the hell out of

952
00:49:27,000 --> 00:49:30,920
Speaker 1: him and we're sitting here at ten and two instead

953
00:49:30,920 --> 00:49:33,399
Speaker 1: of nine and three, we would be in the playoff now.

954
00:49:33,480 --> 00:49:36,000
Speaker 1: I would also say, if you're him, you know they

955
00:49:36,040 --> 00:49:38,359
Speaker 1: got beat by Georgia by twenty five points. They lost

956
00:49:38,400 --> 00:49:41,439
Speaker 1: to an eight lost Florida team. That's that's the part

957
00:49:41,480 --> 00:49:45,000
Speaker 1: that doesn't really job with his argument. They needed overtime

958
00:49:45,040 --> 00:49:49,040
Speaker 1: to beat UK. But yeah, you can have a situation

959
00:49:49,120 --> 00:49:53,160
Speaker 1: where teams are are not are trying to schedule cupcake

960
00:49:53,239 --> 00:49:56,240
Speaker 1: games instead of these great early season at of conference games.

961
00:49:56,360 --> 00:49:59,120
Speaker 1: A Fanwood doesn't want that exactly. You go to Old

962
00:49:59,120 --> 00:50:02,560
Speaker 1: miss Ole Misses another example there. Their non conference schedule

963
00:50:02,719 --> 00:50:05,720
Speaker 1: was Georgia State, which I believe won one game this season,

964
00:50:05,800 --> 00:50:10,680
Speaker 1: yes two lane, which really is this year. They were

965
00:50:10,840 --> 00:50:13,680
Speaker 1: more like a power conference team. That's a solid I mean,

966
00:50:13,719 --> 00:50:15,840
Speaker 1: but you don't know when you schedule that, and certainly

967
00:50:16,160 --> 00:50:19,600
Speaker 1: the perception of it. Washington State, which is no longer

968
00:50:19,640 --> 00:50:23,560
Speaker 1: a power conference team, and the citadel An FCS team

969
00:50:23,560 --> 00:50:27,480
Speaker 1: that was there for non conference games, and and so

970
00:50:27,920 --> 00:50:31,800
Speaker 1: like there being there being no rules in college football

971
00:50:31,920 --> 00:50:34,919
Speaker 1: of you saying, hey that your your your schedule hat

972
00:50:35,280 --> 00:50:39,920
Speaker 1: you are required to schedule one power conference team, one

973
00:50:40,000 --> 00:50:45,359
Speaker 1: Group of five team, and one uh, you know FCS team.

974
00:50:45,400 --> 00:50:47,799
Speaker 1: I don't know, like there's no there's just there's no

975
00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:51,239
Speaker 1: uniformity to any of this stuff. There there's no like

976
00:50:52,080 --> 00:50:54,319
Speaker 1: the you know, the unlimited amounts of transfer, you know,

977
00:50:54,400 --> 00:50:56,960
Speaker 1: like and in any like now everyone's afraid like they're

978
00:50:56,960 --> 00:50:59,640
Speaker 1: gonna get sued. Like it's there needs to be rules

979
00:50:59,640 --> 00:51:01,600
Speaker 1: put in. I saw where I was a chip Roy

980
00:51:02,200 --> 00:51:05,560
Speaker 1: is he the congressman? Is he from Texas? He was?

981
00:51:05,719 --> 00:51:08,360
Speaker 1: He waxed poetic about it on the floor or in

982
00:51:08,400 --> 00:51:10,799
Speaker 1: a committee meeting, I believe that was today or yesterday,

983
00:51:11,280 --> 00:51:13,000
Speaker 1: just railing on some of the things you and I

984
00:51:13,040 --> 00:51:15,800
Speaker 1: are railing on here. Yeah, and I well, I'm sitting

985
00:51:15,800 --> 00:51:18,319
Speaker 1: there watching it. I'm like, you know what, Yeah, I'm

986
00:51:18,360 --> 00:51:21,200
Speaker 1: not typically in favor of government stepping in on a

987
00:51:21,239 --> 00:51:24,120
Speaker 1: lot of things, and especially on sports or something like this.

988
00:51:24,239 --> 00:51:27,760
Speaker 1: But it might have to take an Act of Congress

989
00:51:27,800 --> 00:51:30,719
Speaker 1: to fix this. And that's sad to say. And then

990
00:51:30,760 --> 00:51:32,640
Speaker 1: that goes back to what I was saying yesterday, is

991
00:51:32,680 --> 00:51:37,560
Speaker 1: there's there's there's Yeah, there's not that one singular head

992
00:51:37,680 --> 00:51:41,719
Speaker 1: governing body watching out for every conference equally because all

993
00:51:41,840 --> 00:51:45,640
Speaker 1: the separate conferences. Greg Sank, for example, who runs the

994
00:51:45,680 --> 00:51:48,800
Speaker 1: Commissioner of the SEC, he only cares about the SEC.

995
00:51:49,200 --> 00:51:52,399
Speaker 1: Give it damn what happens the Ohio State and Penn

996
00:51:52,480 --> 00:51:53,440
Speaker 1: State and all that stuff.

997
00:51:53,480 --> 00:51:58,880
Speaker 2: Because yeah, so there needs to be that, but that would.

998
00:51:58,640 --> 00:52:01,719
Speaker 1: Require giving up some and the folks that run the

999
00:52:01,719 --> 00:52:04,200
Speaker 1: big ten, the folks run the SEC, don't want to

1000
00:52:04,239 --> 00:52:07,440
Speaker 1: do that. But but you know, to our previous point

1001
00:52:07,480 --> 00:52:13,759
Speaker 1: about the the we should want good non conference games, right,

1002
00:52:13,840 --> 00:52:16,759
Speaker 1: especially at the beginning of the year. Right, and then

1003
00:52:16,800 --> 00:52:20,080
Speaker 1: Sarkisian's point as well, we're kind of being penalized for

1004
00:52:20,280 --> 00:52:23,120
Speaker 1: losing a you know, a game against the number one

1005
00:52:23,120 --> 00:52:23,759
Speaker 1: team in the nation.

1006
00:52:24,600 --> 00:52:27,120
Speaker 2: What's our instentive the schedule is games? Well, here you go.

1007
00:52:27,360 --> 00:52:31,239
Speaker 1: Today Alabama announced that it has agreed to move their

1008
00:52:31,360 --> 00:52:36,799
Speaker 1: previously scheduled twenty twenty six matchup versus USF okay South

1009
00:52:37,680 --> 00:52:41,320
Speaker 1: pretty good. Yeah, then at the beginning of twenty twenty seven.

1010
00:52:41,360 --> 00:52:43,680
Speaker 1: But so they're going to replace USF, which is a

1011
00:52:43,680 --> 00:52:46,919
Speaker 1: group of five but still good team I think Chattanooga.

1012
00:52:47,040 --> 00:52:49,759
Speaker 1: There you go. So, so they're saying, well, we're not

1013
00:52:49,800 --> 00:52:52,879
Speaker 1: going to get any credit for playing USF, So why

1014
00:52:52,920 --> 00:52:56,480
Speaker 1: why let's remove any chance at all that we could

1015
00:52:56,760 --> 00:53:00,000
Speaker 1: lose that game or not win by enough. And know

1016
00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:02,960
Speaker 1: so where would where would Texas be? Let's say, if

1017
00:53:03,000 --> 00:53:07,000
Speaker 1: Texas had had played, uh it scheduled I don't know,

1018
00:53:07,080 --> 00:53:09,799
Speaker 1: Georgia State instead of Ohio State, they'd be ten and

1019
00:53:09,880 --> 00:53:14,360
Speaker 1: two right now, right they their non conference was Ohio State,

1020
00:53:14,480 --> 00:53:18,520
Speaker 1: San Jose State, UTEP, and Sam Houston. So you know,

1021
00:53:21,560 --> 00:53:24,280
Speaker 1: I don't know this whole thing is just it's it's

1022
00:53:24,400 --> 00:53:28,359
Speaker 1: very frustrating. And again it's yeah, if you're sitting there

1023
00:53:28,360 --> 00:53:30,839
Speaker 1: as an Ohio State or Indiana fan right now, or

1024
00:53:30,920 --> 00:53:33,680
Speaker 1: you know, you're like this is this, You're not frustrated

1025
00:53:34,040 --> 00:53:36,399
Speaker 1: nor should you be right, but you know, for the

1026
00:53:36,440 --> 00:53:39,000
Speaker 1: greater good of there might be years when when you

1027
00:53:39,120 --> 00:53:41,799
Speaker 1: are sitting here in Notre Dame seat right now as

1028
00:53:41,840 --> 00:53:45,560
Speaker 1: Ohio State or or Indian I mean Indian Indiana. Let's

1029
00:53:45,719 --> 00:53:47,080
Speaker 1: I mean they're going to be able to sustain this

1030
00:53:47,239 --> 00:53:50,320
Speaker 1: great coach. I don't know, but I mean Ohio State obviously,

1031
00:53:50,360 --> 00:53:52,600
Speaker 1: they're going to be in there every year. The team

1032
00:53:52,680 --> 00:53:56,319
Speaker 1: that I think is the committee wants to screw and

1033
00:53:56,320 --> 00:53:58,160
Speaker 1: they're going to screw them bad if they can. As

1034
00:53:58,239 --> 00:54:00,840
Speaker 1: b YU, theyre all eleven and one, Okay, they have

1035
00:54:00,840 --> 00:54:03,800
Speaker 1: a two to one record over top twenty five teams,

1036
00:54:04,360 --> 00:54:07,640
Speaker 1: and they are ranked behind a ten and two Notre

1037
00:54:07,760 --> 00:54:09,920
Speaker 1: Dame team that is one and two.

1038
00:54:09,800 --> 00:54:10,839
Speaker 2: Versus the top twenty five.

1039
00:54:10,840 --> 00:54:13,319
Speaker 1: And I'm a Notre Dame guy admitting, hey, I would

1040
00:54:13,320 --> 00:54:15,439
Speaker 1: admit in front of God and everybody that Notre Dame

1041
00:54:15,520 --> 00:54:20,200
Speaker 1: schedule they don't have the quality wins that some of

1042
00:54:20,239 --> 00:54:23,960
Speaker 1: these other schools do, and if you're comparing them to BYU,

1043
00:54:24,080 --> 00:54:25,719
Speaker 1: you could make a good argument again at b Y

1044
00:54:25,760 --> 00:54:27,759
Speaker 1: you sitting there eleven and one, but they're ranked behind

1045
00:54:27,800 --> 00:54:29,840
Speaker 1: Notre Dame and they're gonna try to screw them if

1046
00:54:29,840 --> 00:54:32,640
Speaker 1: they would. If they don't they get be by Texas

1047
00:54:32,680 --> 00:54:35,359
Speaker 1: Tech in the Big Twelve title game, there's no way

1048
00:54:35,360 --> 00:54:37,799
Speaker 1: they'll get in that game. And the graad you brought

1049
00:54:37,840 --> 00:54:41,120
Speaker 1: them up too, because that's another piece of the schedule.

1050
00:54:41,160 --> 00:54:45,680
Speaker 1: The Big Twelve decided we're gonna play nine conference games,

1051
00:54:46,040 --> 00:54:50,040
Speaker 1: so they're a nine conference game league, whereas what I

1052
00:54:50,040 --> 00:54:53,360
Speaker 1: think is the Big Ten and a nine conference SEC

1053
00:54:53,480 --> 00:54:56,080
Speaker 1: is they do four non conference so that allows you

1054
00:54:56,120 --> 00:55:00,360
Speaker 1: to get another cupcake versus a conference game. See, there

1055
00:55:00,400 --> 00:55:03,880
Speaker 1: aren't not everybody in your conference is great, but would

1056
00:55:03,880 --> 00:55:08,200
Speaker 1: you rather you know, be playing West Virginia or uh,

1057
00:55:08,640 --> 00:55:10,120
Speaker 1: you know, Chattanooga.

1058
00:55:10,160 --> 00:55:12,160
Speaker 2: Well, if it goes to.

1059
00:55:12,080 --> 00:55:14,680
Speaker 1: Me, the most consistent thing of the committee as I

1060
00:55:14,719 --> 00:55:16,719
Speaker 1: look at it over the last everman year has been

1061
00:55:16,760 --> 00:55:21,040
Speaker 1: a few years, is they seem to value wins more

1062
00:55:21,080 --> 00:55:24,560
Speaker 1: than get losses. So so it is telling teams that

1063
00:55:24,680 --> 00:55:29,440
Speaker 1: is incentivizing them, Hey, don't take that that big risk.

1064
00:55:29,960 --> 00:55:33,080
Speaker 1: Texas and schedule Ohio State as much as everybody wants

1065
00:55:33,120 --> 00:55:35,120
Speaker 1: you to, because if you lose it, we're gonna hold

1066
00:55:35,160 --> 00:55:38,080
Speaker 1: it against you. Instead, go play Sam Houston State and

1067
00:55:38,520 --> 00:55:41,040
Speaker 1: blow their doors off and get that win and be

1068
00:55:41,480 --> 00:55:43,480
Speaker 1: you know, eleven and one, ten and two, and you

1069
00:55:43,480 --> 00:55:44,680
Speaker 1: have a better shot of making them play.

1070
00:55:44,760 --> 00:55:46,080
Speaker 2: That's what they're telling people.

1071
00:55:46,280 --> 00:55:48,560
Speaker 1: Well and just a mess. It is a total mess.

1072
00:55:48,640 --> 00:55:50,359
Speaker 1: Speaking of a mess, we're way late for the break.

1073
00:55:50,560 --> 00:55:52,319
Speaker 1: Let's check some trafficking weather real quick.

1074
00:55:52,560 --> 00:55:53,719
Speaker 2: How we do it, how we do it?

1075
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1080
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Speaker 7: Between the shopping, the decorating, kids concert, hankering and arguing.

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Speaker 1: There is over many elements of college football. One thing

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Speaker 1: you can't argue, and that is the dominance of the

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Speaker 1: Miami RedHawks over the last few years. They are now

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Speaker 1: heading to their third straight MAC title game. They'll face

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Speaker 1: Western Michigan here on Saturday. And joining us right now

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Speaker 1: is the head coach of that team, A guy I

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00:58:56,000 --> 00:58:58,360
Speaker 1: think a lot of the one the only Chuck Martin.

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Speaker 2: Chuck, how are.

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Speaker 4: You doing good at Rockey? How you do it?

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00:59:02,760 --> 00:59:03,720
Speaker 2: I'm doing good here?

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Speaker 1: So it was Look, every season's crazy in its own right.

1138
00:59:07,920 --> 00:59:12,040
Speaker 1: So many unbelievable things happened, but this one in particular

1139
00:59:12,200 --> 00:59:15,040
Speaker 1: was even more wild, right, Like, you know you had

1140
00:59:15,080 --> 00:59:17,960
Speaker 1: to change at quarterback late in the year. Just describe

1141
00:59:18,040 --> 00:59:20,200
Speaker 1: some of the things you had to go through and

1142
00:59:20,520 --> 00:59:23,600
Speaker 1: keeping this thing on the rails to finish this season off, right.

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00:59:24,960 --> 00:59:27,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, No, we knew going into this year it was

1144
00:59:27,200 --> 00:59:29,040
Speaker 4: gold be crazy. We brought in forty We had twenty

1145
00:59:29,080 --> 00:59:31,760
Speaker 4: eight seniors, those guys that been here forever, took us

1146
00:59:31,800 --> 00:59:34,640
Speaker 4: to back to back MAC Championship games. Gabett was actually

1147
00:59:34,640 --> 00:59:36,880
Speaker 4: our quarterback in nineteen when we won it as a freshman.

1148
00:59:36,920 --> 00:59:38,640
Speaker 4: He's still our quarterback in twenty four in the Max

1149
00:59:38,680 --> 00:59:41,880
Speaker 4: Championship Game. So we knew it would be changing the ground.

1150
00:59:41,880 --> 00:59:43,560
Speaker 4: We knew it could be a lot of just trying

1151
00:59:43,560 --> 00:59:46,120
Speaker 4: to figure out. Like I would say, we went to Wisconsin,

1152
00:59:46,160 --> 00:59:48,040
Speaker 4: It's not like our kids didn't like each other, but

1153
00:59:48,080 --> 00:59:50,160
Speaker 4: we weren't a team yet because like they didn't really

1154
00:59:50,160 --> 00:59:51,600
Speaker 4: even know each other. I said, you don't really get

1155
00:59:51,640 --> 00:59:53,760
Speaker 4: to know each other until you actually get out there

1156
00:59:53,760 --> 00:59:55,440
Speaker 4: and you get some sand kicked in your Facebook. But

1157
00:59:55,440 --> 00:59:57,240
Speaker 4: then you find out who's going to have each other's back,

1158
00:59:57,280 --> 01:00:00,160
Speaker 4: you know. And we start off oning three and a

1159
01:00:00,160 --> 01:00:03,320
Speaker 4: gut wrenching loss to UNLV where we actually played good.

1160
01:00:03,360 --> 01:00:05,640
Speaker 4: They're ten and two now and you know, playing for

1161
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Speaker 4: a conference title. We had them beat twice three times

1162
01:00:08,520 --> 01:00:11,880
Speaker 4: and let it slip away. Then we go on a

1163
01:00:11,960 --> 01:00:14,200
Speaker 4: nice little run, but we lose our starting tailback, we

1164
01:00:14,280 --> 01:00:17,560
Speaker 4: lost two of our top wideouts, and then you know,

1165
01:00:17,600 --> 01:00:19,600
Speaker 4: we have a gut wrenching loss to OU where we

1166
01:00:19,640 --> 01:00:21,680
Speaker 4: got to lead with two fifty left and have them

1167
01:00:21,720 --> 01:00:25,160
Speaker 4: sacked and get a face mask, and then they win it.

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01:00:25,200 --> 01:00:28,840
Speaker 4: And then we don't play good against Toledo, which you

1169
01:00:28,880 --> 01:00:30,760
Speaker 4: were at, and we have a new quarterback and it

1170
01:00:30,800 --> 01:00:33,920
Speaker 4: didn't go well, and now we're left for dead. And then,

1171
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Speaker 4: you know, weeks eleven or weeks weeks eleven and twelve,

1172
01:00:37,320 --> 01:00:39,720
Speaker 4: we go with a new quarterback, a freshman hasn't played

1173
01:00:39,720 --> 01:00:41,920
Speaker 4: all year, hasn't really even taken reps in brashe all year,

1174
01:00:41,960 --> 01:00:45,200
Speaker 4: and we have back to back pretty convincing which victories

1175
01:00:45,200 --> 01:00:47,480
Speaker 4: and we get in a three way tie and we

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Speaker 4: win the tie breaker basically because we beat Western and

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Speaker 4: Toledo and oh you didn't beat Western. That's really what

1178
01:00:51,880 --> 01:00:55,120
Speaker 4: it comes down to. And we get to go back

1179
01:00:55,160 --> 01:00:57,440
Speaker 4: to met championship and again last week the game, Clint,

1180
01:00:57,520 --> 01:00:59,320
Speaker 4: you know, we got to beat ball State to get in.

1181
01:00:59,360 --> 01:01:02,200
Speaker 4: We know, if we win, we're in. Thomas Kakowski a

1182
01:01:02,240 --> 01:01:04,440
Speaker 4: Brail and Im for the first two touchdowns and like

1183
01:01:05,280 --> 01:01:08,280
Speaker 4: on your Bingo card, like Thomas Kakowski didn't play a

1184
01:01:08,280 --> 01:01:11,280
Speaker 4: snap in his college career until week eleven, and brailn

1185
01:01:11,360 --> 01:01:14,000
Speaker 4: Im didn't play a snap until week seven, and he

1186
01:01:14,120 --> 01:01:16,760
Speaker 4: was healthy. He just he was a he's a Richard

1187
01:01:16,800 --> 01:01:18,880
Speaker 4: freshman wide out down. We like him. But we got

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01:01:18,920 --> 01:01:22,120
Speaker 4: some good players, and we kept losing players and losing players,

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Speaker 4: and next thing, you know, Braylon itms to start wide

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Speaker 4: up for us, and I'm like, when he caught a

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Speaker 4: second touchdown, we got fourteen son like Kakowski item I

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01:01:29,240 --> 01:01:32,040
Speaker 4: did not see this one. You know. De Chante Jones

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01:01:32,120 --> 01:01:34,720
Speaker 4: was our fifth de Chante Jones from Glenville. He's a

1194
01:01:34,800 --> 01:01:37,320
Speaker 4: redshirt freshman. He's our fifthteam tailback to start the year.

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01:01:37,440 --> 01:01:40,040
Speaker 4: He's leading our team in touchdowns. Like you told me,

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01:01:40,120 --> 01:01:42,000
Speaker 4: just de Chantey Jones gonna lead you in touchdown Me

1197
01:01:42,080 --> 01:01:43,840
Speaker 4: like this, I think Jones probably not's gonna play this year.

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Speaker 4: We're talking about you know, so we've been through it.

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Speaker 4: Credit to the coaching staff, but credit to the kids.

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01:01:49,160 --> 01:01:50,800
Speaker 4: They just have hung in there, hung in there, hung

1201
01:01:50,840 --> 01:01:53,040
Speaker 4: in there, and next thing you know, you look up

1202
01:01:53,080 --> 01:01:55,320
Speaker 4: and somehow we're in Detroit and we played in this

1203
01:01:55,360 --> 01:01:58,040
Speaker 4: game three years and roll like you said, Rocky, we

1204
01:01:58,160 --> 01:02:00,840
Speaker 4: have five players that have played in MAX Championship game.

1205
01:02:00,880 --> 01:02:03,320
Speaker 4: That's it. I'm bringing a hard ten kids to Detroit.

1206
01:02:04,200 --> 01:02:05,880
Speaker 4: Last year when we played in it, we almost had

1207
01:02:05,920 --> 01:02:07,800
Speaker 4: every like I probably had thirty some kids that had

1208
01:02:07,840 --> 01:02:09,960
Speaker 4: played in the twenty three games. And then they're back

1209
01:02:10,000 --> 01:02:12,080
Speaker 4: in twenty four at least, Like, well, you've got advantage.

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01:02:12,080 --> 01:02:13,600
Speaker 4: You got all this experience. I go, none of these

1211
01:02:13,640 --> 01:02:15,480
Speaker 4: kid's like, there's no one on our offense that's going

1212
01:02:15,560 --> 01:02:17,360
Speaker 4: to take a rep that's played in the mac champship game,

1213
01:02:17,560 --> 01:02:19,560
Speaker 4: and only five guys in our defense. I've ever wayed.

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Speaker 1: That is amazing.

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Speaker 4: It's pretty amazing.

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Speaker 1: Coach, speaking of my hanging in there, You've done it.

1217
01:02:25,960 --> 01:02:29,720
Speaker 1: I mean, you've withstood the test of time and in

1218
01:02:29,760 --> 01:02:32,640
Speaker 1: a world where it's like, you know, if you lost

1219
01:02:32,680 --> 01:02:34,720
Speaker 1: this game, oh, this guy's on the hot seat. You've

1220
01:02:34,760 --> 01:02:38,919
Speaker 1: been in Miami for since twenty fourteen, You've been able

1221
01:02:38,960 --> 01:02:45,040
Speaker 1: to sustain success through the just absolute craziness of college football.

1222
01:02:46,200 --> 01:02:51,840
Speaker 1: How have you? How have you adjusted to that world

1223
01:02:51,880 --> 01:02:55,760
Speaker 1: of transfer? Like how much different is your daily job

1224
01:02:55,840 --> 01:02:59,440
Speaker 1: today versus it was even certainly when you first came to.

1225
01:02:59,400 --> 01:03:03,480
Speaker 4: Miami, But even five years ago, college football has changed,

1226
01:03:03,920 --> 01:03:06,400
Speaker 4: right a million folder. We all know, like it's not

1227
01:03:06,480 --> 01:03:08,320
Speaker 4: the job's nothing like it's sept for when you get

1228
01:03:08,320 --> 01:03:09,760
Speaker 4: between the lines, you get the coach kids. You know,

1229
01:03:09,840 --> 01:03:12,520
Speaker 4: you get coach awesome kids who are trying to figure

1230
01:03:12,560 --> 01:03:16,280
Speaker 4: out not only football but life. And so again, we've

1231
01:03:16,320 --> 01:03:19,200
Speaker 4: done a good job because we haven't like we don't

1232
01:03:19,200 --> 01:03:22,880
Speaker 4: get into the change, Like, here's the rules. We don't

1233
01:03:23,400 --> 01:03:25,240
Speaker 4: We're not four, Like, what do you think of anio?

1234
01:03:25,280 --> 01:03:27,040
Speaker 4: What do you think of transfer reporter? What do you

1235
01:03:27,160 --> 01:03:29,080
Speaker 4: I'm like, we don't think. I ain't that Like that's

1236
01:03:29,640 --> 01:03:31,480
Speaker 4: I run a company. I don't make the rules. Government

1237
01:03:31,480 --> 01:03:34,320
Speaker 4: makes me, the NCAAMA, whatever makes the rules. We've just said, hey,

1238
01:03:34,320 --> 01:03:36,000
Speaker 4: here's where it is. You know. Do you want to

1239
01:03:36,040 --> 01:03:38,280
Speaker 4: lose your best players? No? But we're a max school.

1240
01:03:38,320 --> 01:03:40,200
Speaker 4: So I can sit here and pout and screen when

1241
01:03:40,240 --> 01:03:42,560
Speaker 4: Reggie Virgil makes a million dollars to go to Texas Tech,

1242
01:03:42,600 --> 01:03:45,360
Speaker 4: you know, yeah. Or I can be happy for Reggie

1243
01:03:45,400 --> 01:03:47,200
Speaker 4: and be happy for my time with Reggie. Like me

1244
01:03:47,200 --> 01:03:49,560
Speaker 4: and Reggie had a great three years together. And I

1245
01:03:49,560 --> 01:03:51,680
Speaker 4: think he owes me and my staff some because we

1246
01:03:51,760 --> 01:03:53,520
Speaker 4: developed them. But I think we owe him some too,

1247
01:03:53,640 --> 01:03:55,760
Speaker 4: Like he'll just get to the MAC title game last year,

1248
01:03:55,800 --> 01:03:58,520
Speaker 4: you know, and now he's got this a million dollar opportunity.

1249
01:03:58,680 --> 01:04:00,960
Speaker 4: I just lost. We had a quarterback admitted forever. I

1250
01:04:01,040 --> 01:04:05,600
Speaker 4: just lost them to Michigan seven days ago. I'm not

1251
01:04:05,600 --> 01:04:07,000
Speaker 4: supposed to get mad at that kid. He got a

1252
01:04:07,000 --> 01:04:07,920
Speaker 4: Michigan offer.

1253
01:04:10,040 --> 01:04:11,720
Speaker 2: And keep winning and get the Max, you can't. You

1254
01:04:11,800 --> 01:04:12,640
Speaker 2: got to keep going.

1255
01:04:13,840 --> 01:04:15,400
Speaker 4: The fans want to get all mad. I'm like, I'm

1256
01:04:15,600 --> 01:04:18,560
Speaker 4: kids got a Michigan offer, Like are you for real?

1257
01:04:18,640 --> 01:04:20,760
Speaker 4: Like I did like and I'm I'm I like Miami

1258
01:04:20,800 --> 01:04:22,240
Speaker 4: and I think a lot of this place, but like,

1259
01:04:22,280 --> 01:04:25,160
Speaker 4: I'm not a not an idiot, like and it's Lloyd

1260
01:04:25,200 --> 01:04:27,880
Speaker 4: Current's grandson and his dad played there and his mom's

1261
01:04:27,880 --> 01:04:30,280
Speaker 4: granddad's a Hall of Famer. But who cares that that

1262
01:04:30,400 --> 01:04:33,200
Speaker 4: there was none of those times? Who's taking a Michigan offer?

1263
01:04:33,280 --> 01:04:35,400
Speaker 4: Seven to Iel? Well, he's not loyal. You know, he's

1264
01:04:35,400 --> 01:04:36,320
Speaker 4: been committed for I'm like.

1265
01:04:36,480 --> 01:04:38,760
Speaker 2: I gotch you guys, but these days are.

1266
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Speaker 4: Quarterback.

1267
01:04:41,120 --> 01:04:45,120
Speaker 1: But well and Chuck, I think two things you're you're

1268
01:04:45,160 --> 01:04:49,840
Speaker 1: smart about doing, which is number one, you're not resisting.

1269
01:04:49,880 --> 01:04:52,160
Speaker 1: I feel like the coaches that resist and kind of

1270
01:04:52,160 --> 01:04:54,760
Speaker 1: piss and moan about the portal, and it's unfair that

1271
01:04:54,880 --> 01:04:56,840
Speaker 1: they don't make it because as you said, you don't

1272
01:04:56,840 --> 01:05:00,560
Speaker 1: make the rules, but your damnager gotta gotta abide because

1273
01:05:00,600 --> 01:05:03,240
Speaker 1: you have no choice. And I think the other part

1274
01:05:03,320 --> 01:05:06,040
Speaker 1: is you're at a point where I don't think you

1275
01:05:06,120 --> 01:05:08,440
Speaker 1: take it personal. You just say, look, this is kind

1276
01:05:08,480 --> 01:05:10,920
Speaker 1: of water off your back. All right, that's fine, this

1277
01:05:11,000 --> 01:05:13,480
Speaker 1: guy moves on. We'll go to the next one. And

1278
01:05:13,960 --> 01:05:17,720
Speaker 1: rather than waste so much emotion and energy worrying about

1279
01:05:17,760 --> 01:05:20,560
Speaker 1: some things you can't control, you don't worry about it,

1280
01:05:20,560 --> 01:05:21,880
Speaker 1: and you just move on the next thing.

1281
01:05:23,040 --> 01:05:25,400
Speaker 4: And sometimes it's frustrating because your work hard in life

1282
01:05:25,400 --> 01:05:27,520
Speaker 4: and you expect some rewards because you work hard. So

1283
01:05:27,760 --> 01:05:30,040
Speaker 4: we go back to backch mech title games. You know,

1284
01:05:30,080 --> 01:05:31,800
Speaker 4: we've got the best record in the league and blah

1285
01:05:31,800 --> 01:05:34,200
Speaker 4: blah blah for a long time, and we put together

1286
01:05:34,240 --> 01:05:36,600
Speaker 4: this incredible recruiting class, like it's the best one we've

1287
01:05:36,640 --> 01:05:39,960
Speaker 4: ever had, you know, And we lost six guys to

1288
01:05:40,080 --> 01:05:42,800
Speaker 4: Power four programs in the last month. Six Now I

1289
01:05:42,880 --> 01:05:45,920
Speaker 4: usually lose maybe one, maybe two, Like it's not uncure,

1290
01:05:46,040 --> 01:05:49,320
Speaker 4: somebody comes in. I lost six in a month. I

1291
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Speaker 4: had twenty four kids committed a month CARSS fined eighteen

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Speaker 4: to day. And it was going to be our best

1293
01:05:53,240 --> 01:05:56,840
Speaker 4: class ever. We lost two kids to Michigan and four

1294
01:05:56,880 --> 01:05:59,200
Speaker 4: other Power five. You know, four of the Power four.

1295
01:05:59,240 --> 01:06:01,560
Speaker 4: Is It's like okay, well yeah, because it suck, yeah,

1296
01:06:01,560 --> 01:06:05,040
Speaker 4: but like that's the best. I mean, those are legitimate kids.

1297
01:06:05,080 --> 01:06:07,520
Speaker 4: We had recruiting. I mean, like the other you're kind

1298
01:06:07,520 --> 01:06:10,280
Speaker 4: of proud, like, hey, Michigan's taking your guys. You're probably

1299
01:06:10,280 --> 01:06:12,960
Speaker 4: on some pretty good players, you know. Like so again,

1300
01:06:13,240 --> 01:06:14,680
Speaker 4: it's just the way it is. And they're like they're

1301
01:06:14,760 --> 01:06:17,360
Speaker 4: just they're just poaching your guys. Yeah, well that's yeah,

1302
01:06:17,480 --> 01:06:20,880
Speaker 4: it's but if they're poaching Ten States guys, they're not

1303
01:06:20,880 --> 01:06:22,560
Speaker 4: poaching of our guys. I'm on the wrong guys here.

1304
01:06:22,600 --> 01:06:26,680
Speaker 4: I mean, anybody in the transfer portal. If we don't

1305
01:06:26,680 --> 01:06:29,280
Speaker 4: lose anybody the transfer portal to the bigger schools, we

1306
01:06:29,280 --> 01:06:31,560
Speaker 4: probably don't have a very good MAC team, right, Yeah,

1307
01:06:31,600 --> 01:06:34,000
Speaker 4: that's right. Reality the year I don't lose anybody to

1308
01:06:34,040 --> 01:06:36,080
Speaker 4: get you know, like it's bought off my roster, Well,

1309
01:06:36,320 --> 01:06:38,280
Speaker 4: I probably have bur good year. I'd rather I've rather

1310
01:06:38,320 --> 01:06:40,080
Speaker 4: have really good players that the big boys want. That.

1311
01:06:40,200 --> 01:06:41,400
Speaker 4: That's that's more fun for me.

1312
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Speaker 1: Coach, what's kept you at Miami? You've had You've had success.

1313
01:06:47,520 --> 01:06:50,080
Speaker 1: You're obviously you're in your third Uh you're in your

1314
01:06:50,120 --> 01:06:53,280
Speaker 1: third straight MAC title game where you know a lot

1315
01:06:53,360 --> 01:06:56,000
Speaker 1: of coaches, uh would would move on and go on

1316
01:06:56,040 --> 01:06:58,120
Speaker 1: to a bigger power conference.

1317
01:06:58,520 --> 01:06:58,800
Speaker 5: Uh.

1318
01:06:59,160 --> 01:07:02,040
Speaker 1: Job, You've you've you've stayed there, and you stayed the course.

1319
01:07:02,560 --> 01:07:04,960
Speaker 1: What's kept you in Miami one.

1320
01:07:05,000 --> 01:07:07,520
Speaker 4: It's a great place. So I've loved every minute here too.

1321
01:07:07,560 --> 01:07:10,520
Speaker 4: I'm not somebody that really looks for jobs. Three, to

1322
01:07:10,520 --> 01:07:13,440
Speaker 4: be honest, are non league scheduling. I always tell Miami,

1323
01:07:13,440 --> 01:07:15,520
Speaker 4: you got me in jail here, Like I'm going to

1324
01:07:15,560 --> 01:07:16,840
Speaker 4: be really good in the MAC. I've had the best

1325
01:07:16,840 --> 01:07:18,840
Speaker 4: record over the last nine years. We're fifty five and

1326
01:07:18,880 --> 01:07:22,880
Speaker 4: twenty one in Mac play since whatever twenty sixteen. But

1327
01:07:23,000 --> 01:07:25,960
Speaker 4: we play all these incredible you know, we went big ten,

1328
01:07:26,000 --> 01:07:28,640
Speaker 4: big ten UNLV, We've gone big ten, big ten, U

1329
01:07:28,720 --> 01:07:31,880
Speaker 4: see for years yep. And my non legal erectords like

1330
01:07:31,880 --> 01:07:34,600
Speaker 4: twelve and thirty six. And I honestly, you know, my agent,

1331
01:07:34,720 --> 01:07:36,440
Speaker 4: I says, when they start looking for jobs, which is

1332
01:07:36,440 --> 01:07:38,480
Speaker 4: about week six, I'm usually about four and four and

1333
01:07:38,520 --> 01:07:43,520
Speaker 4: I'm not real sexyet and again it's like I may

1334
01:07:43,560 --> 01:07:45,600
Speaker 4: win the MAC this year and I'll be eight and five. Well,

1335
01:07:46,240 --> 01:07:49,120
Speaker 4: you know, so, I say, Miami' kind of figure out.

1336
01:07:49,280 --> 01:07:50,760
Speaker 4: They make me lose a lot of games early in

1337
01:07:50,760 --> 01:07:52,160
Speaker 4: the year, then I win a lot of games late,

1338
01:07:52,200 --> 01:07:54,040
Speaker 4: so they're going to keep me around because I'm good

1339
01:07:54,200 --> 01:07:57,360
Speaker 4: I'm a good MAC coach, but they they my record

1340
01:07:57,400 --> 01:07:59,680
Speaker 4: is not My record is not what it could be

1341
01:07:59,760 --> 01:08:01,680
Speaker 4: if we schedule a little better non league. So we're

1342
01:08:01,720 --> 01:08:02,480
Speaker 4: working on that though.

1343
01:08:02,640 --> 01:08:05,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean maybe that is their diabolical plan, just

1344
01:08:05,640 --> 01:08:08,480
Speaker 1: to to keep it in like a hotel.

1345
01:08:08,560 --> 01:08:10,520
Speaker 4: It's like the Hotel California.

1346
01:08:10,000 --> 01:08:12,920
Speaker 1: Right, right, Yeah, you can check out, you can never leave,

1347
01:08:13,000 --> 01:08:13,960
Speaker 1: right whatever the line is.

1348
01:08:14,960 --> 01:08:18,360
Speaker 4: So, like I always tell people, it's a pretty good place, like, yeah,

1349
01:08:18,960 --> 01:08:20,920
Speaker 4: you know what, you guys know it like it's a

1350
01:08:20,920 --> 01:08:24,479
Speaker 4: wonderful school. We've got these amazing football facilities that we've

1351
01:08:24,520 --> 01:08:26,960
Speaker 4: upgrade since we've been here. We can get great kids.

1352
01:08:27,120 --> 01:08:29,120
Speaker 4: I've been fortunate. My two coordinators have been here for

1353
01:08:29,120 --> 01:08:31,679
Speaker 4: twelve years. Like who no head coach has been anywhere

1354
01:08:31,720 --> 01:08:33,439
Speaker 4: for twelve years, but let alone, they've never had a

1355
01:08:33,479 --> 01:08:36,439
Speaker 4: coordinator for twelve when you're having success like so, I've

1356
01:08:36,439 --> 01:08:38,400
Speaker 4: been very blussed and fortunate to be at Miami.

1357
01:08:38,920 --> 01:08:40,800
Speaker 1: Chuck Martner is our guest, the head coach of the

1358
01:08:40,880 --> 01:08:43,240
Speaker 1: Miami RedHawks. They're on their way to their third straight

1359
01:08:43,320 --> 01:08:46,479
Speaker 1: MAC title game. That'll be this Saturday against Western Michigan

1360
01:08:46,960 --> 01:08:49,120
Speaker 1: and Jack Before you let you Go, I would love

1361
01:08:49,160 --> 01:08:53,559
Speaker 1: if if you had a comment on the college football

1362
01:08:53,560 --> 01:08:57,519
Speaker 1: playoff in general. I commented earlier that you know, it's

1363
01:08:57,560 --> 01:09:00,120
Speaker 1: like it's the end of the season, right and you

1364
01:09:00,120 --> 01:09:02,360
Speaker 1: know we've it's been such a great season, so many

1365
01:09:02,360 --> 01:09:04,599
Speaker 1: great games and matchups. As we get to the end

1366
01:09:05,200 --> 01:09:07,840
Speaker 1: and there's it's just like total confusion and you know

1367
01:09:07,880 --> 01:09:10,000
Speaker 1: this team should be in, No, that team should be in.

1368
01:09:10,200 --> 01:09:12,680
Speaker 1: Do you have any any thoughts when when you look

1369
01:09:12,680 --> 01:09:15,400
Speaker 1: at the college football playoff and how things are decided

1370
01:09:16,000 --> 01:09:17,680
Speaker 1: that that you would like to see different.

1371
01:09:21,200 --> 01:09:23,360
Speaker 4: Now? I always want the best teams. Then I love

1372
01:09:23,439 --> 01:09:26,639
Speaker 4: that there's a G five that has access. I don't

1373
01:09:26,800 --> 01:09:30,400
Speaker 4: I don't totally get you know, five conference winners like

1374
01:09:30,439 --> 01:09:31,760
Speaker 4: I just think you should be trying to get the

1375
01:09:31,760 --> 01:09:34,439
Speaker 4: best twelve. I love being a G five program. I

1376
01:09:34,439 --> 01:09:36,040
Speaker 4: love that you give a little guy access. You know,

1377
01:09:36,080 --> 01:09:38,479
Speaker 4: there's so much cool in March madness because some you

1378
01:09:38,600 --> 01:09:40,360
Speaker 4: created something. It's not gonna happen very well, but at

1379
01:09:40,400 --> 01:09:41,880
Speaker 4: some point a little school is gonna do it, you know,

1380
01:09:42,000 --> 01:09:44,240
Speaker 4: gonna upset that five seed, you know, so I love

1381
01:09:44,320 --> 01:09:46,200
Speaker 4: that part. After that, I don't think there should be

1382
01:09:46,840 --> 01:09:48,680
Speaker 4: I don't think there should be conference to I just

1383
01:09:48,720 --> 01:09:51,640
Speaker 4: think go with the best eleven that year, you know,

1384
01:09:51,720 --> 01:09:53,519
Speaker 4: go with the best eleven. Who cares. You don't have

1385
01:09:53,560 --> 01:09:56,000
Speaker 4: to take any conference champion, you don't have to take.

1386
01:09:56,600 --> 01:09:58,920
Speaker 4: Just try to get the best eleven. The cool thing is,

1387
01:09:59,200 --> 01:10:01,400
Speaker 4: what do you take too teams? People going to argue

1388
01:10:01,560 --> 01:10:03,479
Speaker 4: between two and three, if you take four, people going

1389
01:10:03,560 --> 01:10:06,200
Speaker 4: to argue if you take twelve. The cool thing right

1390
01:10:06,240 --> 01:10:08,720
Speaker 4: now is there's tons that's it just makes hollege football better?

1391
01:10:08,800 --> 01:10:08,920
Speaker 8: Is it?

1392
01:10:09,040 --> 01:10:09,720
Speaker 4: Notre Dame? Is it?

1393
01:10:09,760 --> 01:10:10,080
Speaker 15: Miami?

1394
01:10:10,240 --> 01:10:13,000
Speaker 4: Is it? Let's be why you get in? Who's who deserved.

1395
01:10:13,000 --> 01:10:14,000
Speaker 1: Miami beating like and all?

1396
01:10:14,040 --> 01:10:16,120
Speaker 4: That just makes it fun and crazy and the fans

1397
01:10:16,120 --> 01:10:18,479
Speaker 4: love it and we love it. And if somebody's always

1398
01:10:18,479 --> 01:10:20,599
Speaker 4: going to be the thirteenth team, right there's always gonna

1399
01:10:20,600 --> 01:10:22,559
Speaker 4: be a bubble team that doesn't get in and they're

1400
01:10:22,600 --> 01:10:24,000
Speaker 4: going to be mad. It doesn't matter if you have

1401
01:10:24,040 --> 01:10:26,479
Speaker 4: sixty four teams, the sixty fifth teams match. But I

1402
01:10:26,520 --> 01:10:29,559
Speaker 4: just wish they wouldn't have the conference. The conference ties

1403
01:10:29,600 --> 01:10:31,920
Speaker 4: don't make sense to me. Just get the best eleven

1404
01:10:31,960 --> 01:10:34,559
Speaker 4: and ten, take one of the little you know, reward

1405
01:10:34,600 --> 01:10:37,280
Speaker 4: the best you know, g five team and create a

1406
01:10:37,600 --> 01:10:41,800
Speaker 4: you know, David Versuskliath and again to me, that's pretty

1407
01:10:41,840 --> 01:10:44,240
Speaker 4: cool that try to include us, you know, but then

1408
01:10:44,320 --> 01:10:46,639
Speaker 4: just take the best eleven who cares a conference, who cares?

1409
01:10:46,640 --> 01:10:48,840
Speaker 4: Who want to league? You don't want to take, you know,

1410
01:10:48,880 --> 01:10:51,200
Speaker 4: a team that's got three losses or four losses that

1411
01:10:51,280 --> 01:10:53,439
Speaker 4: won a league you don't want. You don't want Duke

1412
01:10:53,479 --> 01:10:55,080
Speaker 4: to have an automatic bid or something. You mean, you

1413
01:10:55,120 --> 01:10:57,439
Speaker 4: don't want to get into that. I just want to

1414
01:10:57,439 --> 01:10:59,200
Speaker 4: get the best eleven teams there and have one heck

1415
01:10:59,240 --> 01:10:59,839
Speaker 4: of a tournament.

1416
01:11:00,160 --> 01:11:03,720
Speaker 1: Yep, agreed. I think it's well, we all want well, Chuck, listen,

1417
01:11:03,920 --> 01:11:05,920
Speaker 1: we got to run. But but really appreciate your time.

1418
01:11:05,960 --> 01:11:07,720
Speaker 1: You know, I admire what you do and think you

1419
01:11:07,720 --> 01:11:10,960
Speaker 1: do such a great job there. Best luck and go

1420
01:11:11,439 --> 01:11:12,520
Speaker 1: capture that championship.

1421
01:11:12,520 --> 01:11:15,280
Speaker 4: All right, appreciate it guy, Thanks for having me.

1422
01:11:15,360 --> 01:11:17,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, thanks, you got it? Uh get him Chuck Martin,

1423
01:11:17,840 --> 01:11:21,840
Speaker 1: head coach of Miami. Yeah, he's uh it is. I

1424
01:11:21,840 --> 01:11:23,760
Speaker 1: mean because I talked with him. I when he first

1425
01:11:23,840 --> 01:11:26,519
Speaker 1: got that job twelve years ago. I went out there

1426
01:11:26,520 --> 01:11:28,800
Speaker 1: and I was just starting my broadcasting career, so I

1427
01:11:28,840 --> 01:11:31,040
Speaker 1: wanted to make some contacts and learn from some people.

1428
01:11:31,040 --> 01:11:32,559
Speaker 1: And I know he had been at Notre Dame and

1429
01:11:33,240 --> 01:11:35,920
Speaker 1: went out and talked with him and it was really

1430
01:11:35,960 --> 01:11:38,720
Speaker 1: impressed with his knowledge. And you can hear him talk, right,

1431
01:11:38,720 --> 01:11:41,479
Speaker 1: the guy knows what he's discuss and fiery love.

1432
01:11:41,560 --> 01:11:41,720
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1433
01:11:42,200 --> 01:11:46,400
Speaker 1: But again, I I mean, yeah, it is he is

1434
01:11:46,520 --> 01:11:49,040
Speaker 1: smart for not trying to resist. If you're a if

1435
01:11:49,080 --> 01:11:52,439
Speaker 1: you're a G five coach and you're like complaining all

1436
01:11:52,479 --> 01:11:54,760
Speaker 1: the time, I can't believe our players getting stolen here.

1437
01:11:55,920 --> 01:11:59,400
Speaker 1: You're what, you won't last, You'll you'll crack suspective to

1438
01:11:59,439 --> 01:12:02,400
Speaker 1: be shared. Yeah, Hey, I'm I'm losing. I lost some

1439
01:12:02,479 --> 01:12:03,360
Speaker 1: guys to Michigan.

1440
01:12:04,160 --> 01:12:04,360
Speaker 4: Right.

1441
01:12:04,680 --> 01:12:06,800
Speaker 1: If I'm not losing guys in Michigan, that that's a

1442
01:12:06,840 --> 01:12:08,800
Speaker 1: real problem, right. It means we don't have guys that

1443
01:12:08,920 --> 01:12:12,040
Speaker 1: nobody wants, right Yeah, I mean it's really a compliment

1444
01:12:12,080 --> 01:12:14,599
Speaker 1: to him in an odd way. And it's just that's

1445
01:12:14,680 --> 01:12:18,000
Speaker 1: just the world we live in. It's those good of

1446
01:12:18,080 --> 01:12:20,000
Speaker 1: players and they're saying, yes, I want to come to

1447
01:12:20,040 --> 01:12:23,360
Speaker 1: Miami and then someone you know, a blue blood sweeps

1448
01:12:23,360 --> 01:12:25,360
Speaker 1: in and says, oh, we want this guy. Oh okay.

1449
01:12:25,520 --> 01:12:28,759
Speaker 1: I've always thought there should be some sort of payment,

1450
01:12:28,840 --> 01:12:31,880
Speaker 1: like if you're a you know, a power five power

1451
01:12:31,880 --> 01:12:35,200
Speaker 1: four school, and you take a player from say a

1452
01:12:35,320 --> 01:12:38,519
Speaker 1: MAX school, and that players and iled, and you're going

1453
01:12:38,600 --> 01:12:41,519
Speaker 1: to pay them two hundred and twenty five thousand dollars.

1454
01:12:41,640 --> 01:12:44,320
Speaker 1: I think a portion of that money should should go

1455
01:12:44,360 --> 01:12:46,639
Speaker 1: to them where at least there's something that they're giving

1456
01:12:46,720 --> 01:12:50,080
Speaker 1: up this player, the players, leaving them high and dry here,

1457
01:12:50,800 --> 01:12:53,120
Speaker 1: and there should be some sort of compensation for that.

1458
01:12:53,320 --> 01:12:55,600
Speaker 1: Put it on. Put on the list of things that

1459
01:12:55,680 --> 01:12:58,559
Speaker 1: need to champ mean, that list keeps growing rock so

1460
01:12:58,600 --> 01:13:00,800
Speaker 1: many things need to be fixed. That was one more

1461
01:13:00,840 --> 01:13:01,599
Speaker 1: of it. Agreed.

1462
01:13:01,760 --> 01:13:03,680
Speaker 2: All right, let's check some trafficking weather. How are we

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01:13:03,720 --> 01:13:04,160
Speaker 2: looking out there?

1464
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Speaker 10: We're looking out there and from the UC Health Traffic Center.

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Speaker 10: UC Health's Weight Law Center offer a surgical and medical

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Speaker 10: nine twenty two sixty three nine three nine twenty two

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Speaker 10: sixty three. Afternoon. The commute picking up a bit, but

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01:13:19,040 --> 01:13:21,160
Speaker 10: no major problems. We do have the accident on two

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01:13:21,200 --> 01:13:24,120
Speaker 10: seventy five eastpun Ufter coal rangers reported taking up the

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Speaker 10: left lane. Our construction delays on two seventy five Eastpawn

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Speaker 10: between US fifty two and five mile up to about

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Speaker 10: a twenty minute trip through the area, and again we

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Speaker 10: have the right lane shut down, only the left lane open.

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Speaker 10: Seventy five is sowing southbound Walldling and Highway to Norwood

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Speaker 10: Lateral and from west from the viaduct down to the

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Speaker 10: Brent Spence Bridge. And we're so northbound seventy five Mitchell

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Speaker 10: to Paddock. That's up to a fifteen minute trip and

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Speaker 10: at fifteen minute drive now to seventy five between Levin

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Speaker 1: The forecast tonight snow lightly mainly after five pm, mostly

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Speaker 1: cloudy with a low of twenty four new snow accumulation

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Speaker 1: of less than half inch possible, and then Thursday snowlightly

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Speaker 1: mainly before seven am, becoming mostly sunny with a high

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Speaker 1: of thirty. Right now it is thirty two News Radio

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Speaker 1: And Dinner Winter the Home of.

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Speaker 1: This is a story that's been out there a lot today.

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Speaker 1: It has a lot to do with those the drug

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Speaker 1: boats that the Trump administration is blowing out of the water,

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01:14:56,240 --> 01:14:58,879
Speaker 1: and some are saying that there was a Columbian fisherman

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01:14:59,000 --> 01:15:01,479
Speaker 1: on one of these res and then there was maybe

1503
01:15:01,520 --> 01:15:04,960
Speaker 1: a second strike that was ordered by Pete Hegseth to

1504
01:15:05,080 --> 01:15:08,360
Speaker 1: kill anybody that survived it. With the latest on this,

1505
01:15:08,720 --> 01:15:10,599
Speaker 1: we have Royal Oaks from ABC Royal.

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01:15:10,640 --> 01:15:11,040
Speaker 4: How are you?

1507
01:15:11,080 --> 01:15:11,920
Speaker 2: What is the latest?

1508
01:15:12,960 --> 01:15:13,160
Speaker 8: Ye know?

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01:15:13,280 --> 01:15:17,160
Speaker 15: The latest is that there's a complaint being filed with

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01:15:17,280 --> 01:15:20,799
Speaker 15: the Inter American Commission on Human Rights with the family

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01:15:20,840 --> 01:15:22,400
Speaker 15: of the fishermen, and they claim it he was just

1512
01:15:22,439 --> 01:15:25,439
Speaker 15: a fisherman. But the Trump administration is going to be

1513
01:15:25,439 --> 01:15:28,000
Speaker 15: able to point to the fact that there was pentanyl

1514
01:15:28,080 --> 01:15:31,360
Speaker 15: and cocaine found floating in the water after the strike.

1515
01:15:31,479 --> 01:15:33,920
Speaker 15: The bigger problem for the Trump administration is what you

1516
01:15:34,000 --> 01:15:37,080
Speaker 15: alluded to. If anybody gave an order to kill people

1517
01:15:37,120 --> 01:15:40,200
Speaker 15: that are basically just paddling a out of the water

1518
01:15:40,280 --> 01:15:43,519
Speaker 15: after being hit, then they are going to have a

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01:15:43,600 --> 01:15:45,479
Speaker 15: lot of explaining to do so.

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01:15:45,800 --> 01:15:48,840
Speaker 1: And yeah, I did watch the Department of War did

1521
01:15:48,960 --> 01:15:52,719
Speaker 1: announce that according to their intelligence, every one of these

1522
01:15:52,760 --> 01:15:55,960
Speaker 1: boats that have been shot out have confirmed that there

1523
01:15:56,160 --> 01:15:58,599
Speaker 1: was drugs on it, right, So that's not a part

1524
01:15:58,600 --> 01:16:00,960
Speaker 1: of the discussion at all.

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01:16:01,120 --> 01:16:03,599
Speaker 15: So that really goes to the essence of this. You're

1526
01:16:03,640 --> 01:16:06,920
Speaker 15: hearing nothing but oh, they were innocent. My family was

1527
01:16:06,960 --> 01:16:10,800
Speaker 15: an innocent victim. They were just fishermen from basically everybody hit,

1528
01:16:10,880 --> 01:16:12,320
Speaker 15: and of course there have been a lot of them.

1529
01:16:12,479 --> 01:16:16,200
Speaker 15: You have had twenty one strikes and eighty three deaths

1530
01:16:16,200 --> 01:16:17,920
Speaker 15: in the last couple of months. So now the question

1531
01:16:18,080 --> 01:16:20,960
Speaker 15: is every single strike is going to be investigated. What

1532
01:16:21,080 --> 01:16:23,680
Speaker 15: is the evidence that there were were not drugs on

1533
01:16:23,720 --> 01:16:26,480
Speaker 15: those boats? And afkan is a month of years.

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01:16:27,479 --> 01:16:29,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, I find heart to believe. Yeah, I was just

1535
01:16:29,640 --> 01:16:31,960
Speaker 1: an hon fisherman. Having him on a boat full of

1536
01:16:32,320 --> 01:16:34,479
Speaker 1: enough fentanyl to kill you know, two hundred and fifty

1537
01:16:34,479 --> 01:16:38,360
Speaker 1: thousand Americans or something, it's crazy to me. I don't

1538
01:16:38,439 --> 01:16:38,920
Speaker 1: understand it.

1539
01:16:40,120 --> 01:16:42,800
Speaker 15: Yeah, And that's where the lengthy investigations are going to

1540
01:16:42,800 --> 01:16:45,800
Speaker 15: come in and then of course the issue of Pete

1541
01:16:45,800 --> 01:16:50,479
Speaker 15: Hegst's responsibility. He made it clear that he saw and

1542
01:16:50,520 --> 01:16:52,519
Speaker 15: gave the order for the first strike, but he was

1543
01:16:52,520 --> 01:16:54,880
Speaker 15: not in the room when the second strike happened, and

1544
01:16:54,920 --> 01:16:58,200
Speaker 15: so it looks like he's distancing himself from that decision.

1545
01:16:59,479 --> 01:17:03,040
Speaker 1: What is the the argument from the uh the dead

1546
01:17:03,080 --> 01:17:07,720
Speaker 1: fish the dead fisherman's family? Is it? I mean, is

1547
01:17:07,760 --> 01:17:10,840
Speaker 1: it possible that some of these drug lords that are

1548
01:17:11,000 --> 01:17:14,320
Speaker 1: you know, sending these boats or putting I don't know

1549
01:17:14,360 --> 01:17:16,920
Speaker 1: people on there and like saying, hey, you can uh,

1550
01:17:17,120 --> 01:17:20,960
Speaker 1: you can go on this uh fishing excursion to not

1551
01:17:21,000 --> 01:17:23,559
Speaker 1: tell the amerriage. Yeah, I mean yeah, is that is

1552
01:17:23,560 --> 01:17:26,000
Speaker 1: that a possibility or is that an argument here?

1553
01:17:27,120 --> 01:17:29,720
Speaker 15: Absolutely? Yeah, you could spin this out any which way

1554
01:17:29,760 --> 01:17:31,840
Speaker 15: you want. I mean, theoretically you can have a totally

1555
01:17:31,880 --> 01:17:34,080
Speaker 15: innocent fisherman who happens to be on a boat where

1556
01:17:34,280 --> 01:17:37,280
Speaker 15: some people were smuggling drugs. We just don't really know

1557
01:17:37,360 --> 01:17:40,360
Speaker 15: the truth. What's happening with the Human Rights Commission is

1558
01:17:40,360 --> 01:17:42,599
Speaker 15: that they can't take money from anybody or put anybody

1559
01:17:42,600 --> 01:17:44,920
Speaker 15: in jail. They just want to shine a light on

1560
01:17:45,080 --> 01:17:48,200
Speaker 15: possible human rights violations and then people can talk about

1561
01:17:48,200 --> 01:17:51,400
Speaker 15: war crimes and things like that, but as they say,

1562
01:17:51,479 --> 01:17:53,400
Speaker 15: it's going to take a long time to unsort all

1563
01:17:53,439 --> 01:17:54,519
Speaker 15: of these many strikes.

1564
01:17:54,640 --> 01:17:58,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, and now you mentioned that the Inner American Commission

1565
01:17:58,320 --> 01:18:02,760
Speaker 1: on Human Rights, Like what you know, I know that

1566
01:18:02,760 --> 01:18:05,280
Speaker 1: that's that's part of this case, but like, I've never

1567
01:18:05,320 --> 01:18:08,000
Speaker 1: heard of that before. Is that a pretty common or

1568
01:18:08,120 --> 01:18:12,080
Speaker 1: like do they like who who? Where's that based at?

1569
01:18:12,120 --> 01:18:14,120
Speaker 1: And who's you're You're.

1570
01:18:13,960 --> 01:18:18,000
Speaker 15: Not alone, it's not it's not a household name. And

1571
01:18:18,080 --> 01:18:20,240
Speaker 15: as I mentioned, it has no real power. It just

1572
01:18:20,320 --> 01:18:22,360
Speaker 15: wants to shine a light. Now, there are lots of

1573
01:18:22,439 --> 01:18:25,640
Speaker 15: human rights organizations all around the world, and you know,

1574
01:18:25,680 --> 01:18:28,439
Speaker 15: they just have a single purpose. Let's find examples where

1575
01:18:29,120 --> 01:18:32,360
Speaker 15: bad guys are doing terrible things to innocent victims, and uh,

1576
01:18:32,560 --> 01:18:35,080
Speaker 15: let's publicize it and maybe there will be lawsuits, maybe

1577
01:18:35,080 --> 01:18:38,040
Speaker 15: there will be war crime allegations. But yeah, it's it's

1578
01:18:38,080 --> 01:18:40,880
Speaker 15: strictly advisory. There is no real power.

1579
01:18:41,160 --> 01:18:42,960
Speaker 1: Well, we will see how it all shakes out. Royal,

1580
01:18:43,240 --> 01:18:47,479
Speaker 1: I really appreciate time. Thank you, Thanks thanks Roy, thank you.

1581
01:18:48,400 --> 01:18:52,920
Speaker 1: So I'm reading here according to a guy named Tommy Pugou,

1582
01:18:53,080 --> 01:18:55,280
Speaker 1: he is a of the U. S Department of State,

1583
01:18:56,160 --> 01:18:59,120
Speaker 1: And according to him, every one of these drug boats

1584
01:18:59,240 --> 01:19:01,880
Speaker 1: I misspoke on number. It's every one of these boats

1585
01:19:01,920 --> 01:19:04,920
Speaker 1: represents twenty five thousand Americans.

1586
01:19:05,080 --> 01:19:06,600
Speaker 2: That could be killed.

1587
01:19:08,040 --> 01:19:10,320
Speaker 1: On the average amount of drugs that's on this enough

1588
01:19:10,320 --> 01:19:13,439
Speaker 1: to kill twenty five thousand. And you're supposed to convince

1589
01:19:13,520 --> 01:19:17,320
Speaker 1: me that this was just some poor innocent fishermen who

1590
01:19:17,360 --> 01:19:20,240
Speaker 1: when it's already again by US intelligence, every one of

1591
01:19:20,280 --> 01:19:22,080
Speaker 1: these boats has had drugs on it. Just some poor

1592
01:19:22,120 --> 01:19:24,200
Speaker 1: fishermen just just happened to be on this boat.

1593
01:19:24,880 --> 01:19:25,520
Speaker 2: Bs.

1594
01:19:25,720 --> 01:19:27,800
Speaker 1: I think every time one of these boats gets blown

1595
01:19:27,800 --> 01:19:30,559
Speaker 1: out of the water and Angel gets its wings Jason,

1596
01:19:31,560 --> 01:19:34,880
Speaker 1: little Christmas a little wonderful it's a wonderful life reference there.

1597
01:19:34,960 --> 01:19:38,000
Speaker 1: I just can't imagine why people were upset about this. Well,

1598
01:19:38,040 --> 01:19:41,240
Speaker 1: it's unfor I mean, if this is an innocent you know,

1599
01:19:41,439 --> 01:19:43,880
Speaker 1: bystander who was put up to saying, ah this, you know,

1600
01:19:44,000 --> 01:19:46,919
Speaker 1: by drug lords. And like you said, it's been confirmed

1601
01:19:46,920 --> 01:19:48,920
Speaker 1: that every one of these boats that have been blown

1602
01:19:49,000 --> 01:19:52,720
Speaker 1: up have had drugs on them. What do you do

1603
01:19:52,800 --> 01:19:55,760
Speaker 1: of America? Like, that's the mission is to keep drugs

1604
01:19:55,800 --> 01:19:58,679
Speaker 1: from being trafficked into America, and this is the way

1605
01:19:58,720 --> 01:20:01,920
Speaker 1: to do it. Yeah, I don't buy it. If you're

1606
01:20:01,960 --> 01:20:03,720
Speaker 1: on a boat, you have to know that. What's all

1607
01:20:03,760 --> 01:20:07,000
Speaker 1: it's on that boat. I again, there's some scenario out

1608
01:20:07,000 --> 01:20:09,639
Speaker 1: there where you don't know. But I think I think

1609
01:20:09,640 --> 01:20:11,760
Speaker 1: we all know what these are all about. All right,

1610
01:20:12,080 --> 01:20:14,800
Speaker 1: this is a drug boat. All right, let's go ahead

1611
01:20:14,800 --> 01:20:16,880
Speaker 1: and check some trafficking weather. How are we looking? All right?

1612
01:20:16,880 --> 01:20:20,200
Speaker 1: Back with Rocky alongside Jason Williams for just another couple

1613
01:20:20,240 --> 01:20:22,320
Speaker 1: of minutes here, and we're gonna send everyone out with

1614
01:20:22,600 --> 01:20:27,839
Speaker 1: this story here Jason. So this is in Virginia, okay.

1615
01:20:28,600 --> 01:20:31,280
Speaker 1: An employee who runs a state liquor store, and this

1616
01:20:31,360 --> 01:20:35,160
Speaker 1: is in Ashland, Virginia, a small town kind of around Richmond.

1617
01:20:35,800 --> 01:20:38,759
Speaker 1: He arrived at work and has opened up the store.

1618
01:20:39,240 --> 01:20:41,439
Speaker 1: And he walks in the store and walks down with

1619
01:20:41,479 --> 01:20:45,280
Speaker 1: the aisles and there's like lots of broken liquor bottles

1620
01:20:45,479 --> 01:20:48,280
Speaker 1: all over the floor. What the hell's going on here?

1621
01:20:48,320 --> 01:20:54,599
Speaker 1: You know, liquor everywhere, pools of liquor and all that. Well,

1622
01:20:54,640 --> 01:20:58,200
Speaker 1: then so he starts to look around. He goes into

1623
01:20:58,320 --> 01:21:02,639
Speaker 1: the bathroom, okay, and there passed out on the floor.

1624
01:21:03,560 --> 01:21:04,400
Speaker 2: It's a raccoon.

1625
01:21:06,600 --> 01:21:11,479
Speaker 1: I guess the Animal Control Department Hanover County shared a

1626
01:21:11,520 --> 01:21:15,120
Speaker 1: picture of the raccoon that was discovered passed out right

1627
01:21:15,200 --> 01:21:18,639
Speaker 1: next to the toilet in the bathroom that it apparently

1628
01:21:18,680 --> 01:21:21,800
Speaker 1: wandered in after the uh you know, the moonshine had

1629
01:21:21,880 --> 01:21:22,599
Speaker 1: kicked in there.

1630
01:21:23,040 --> 01:21:23,120
Speaker 4: Uh.

1631
01:21:23,200 --> 01:21:26,280
Speaker 1: The animal was transported to a shelter and after we

1632
01:21:26,360 --> 01:21:29,080
Speaker 1: give being given a few hours of sleep to sleep

1633
01:21:29,080 --> 01:21:32,200
Speaker 1: it off, it was released back into the wild. Jason,

1634
01:21:34,080 --> 01:21:37,439
Speaker 1: back into your trash can rock And I didn't print

1635
01:21:37,439 --> 01:21:39,400
Speaker 1: the pictures out, but it is like it looks like

1636
01:21:39,520 --> 01:21:41,400
Speaker 1: what a human would look like if they drank to much,

1637
01:21:41,520 --> 01:21:44,040
Speaker 1: just kind of like sprawt out on the floor head over,

1638
01:21:44,520 --> 01:21:46,200
Speaker 1: you know, by the toilet there.

1639
01:21:46,680 --> 01:21:46,800
Speaker 4: Uh.

1640
01:21:46,880 --> 01:21:49,920
Speaker 1: We we've all been there and no raccoon has I

1641
01:21:49,960 --> 01:21:55,320
Speaker 1: guess too. There was earlier this year. Uh, there was

1642
01:21:55,400 --> 01:21:59,840
Speaker 1: a a in Kentucky. A Kentucky nurse Yeah used s

1643
01:22:00,040 --> 01:22:05,200
Speaker 1: e pr to like to save a raccoon and a

1644
01:22:05,280 --> 01:22:09,559
Speaker 1: dumpster or something that was crazy. I think you might

1645
01:22:09,560 --> 01:22:15,599
Speaker 1: have let it go there. But anyway, in another news

1646
01:22:15,680 --> 01:22:20,599
Speaker 1: and other news, uh, you and I talked about the ozempic. Yeah,

1647
01:22:20,600 --> 01:22:24,640
Speaker 1: that was a good discussion. Yes, yes, sir, well dovetail

1648
01:22:24,680 --> 01:22:29,160
Speaker 1: off of that, Uh, young women are dropping thousands on

1649
01:22:29,240 --> 01:22:34,799
Speaker 1: a gruesome rib removal surgery as the dangerous ozempic body

1650
01:22:34,840 --> 01:22:38,160
Speaker 1: trend takes hold rock now speaking of it, wasn't the

1651
01:22:38,160 --> 01:22:41,240
Speaker 1: the urban legend that Marilyn Manson had a rib removed

1652
01:22:41,280 --> 01:22:45,720
Speaker 1: so he could Yeah, well anyway, yeah, so this is

1653
01:22:45,720 --> 01:22:49,479
Speaker 1: actually real? Yes, reading from the New York Post, of course,

1654
01:22:49,880 --> 01:22:53,479
Speaker 1: the shocking trend of suddenly curvelous celebrities flaunting their so

1655
01:22:53,560 --> 01:22:58,519
Speaker 1: called quote ozimpic bodies and having a dangerous impact on women.

1656
01:22:58,960 --> 01:23:03,120
Speaker 1: Easily accessible up one GLP one drugs can deliver a

1657
01:23:03,160 --> 01:23:08,000
Speaker 1: real thin frame in just months months, as it has

1658
01:23:08,040 --> 01:23:13,360
Speaker 1: for folks or celebrities like Amy Schumer and Meghan Trainer.

1659
01:23:14,160 --> 01:23:16,360
Speaker 1: But someone else, Emily James, I don't know it does.

1660
01:23:16,439 --> 01:23:19,839
Speaker 1: Ring a Bell opted to take even more drastic measures

1661
01:23:19,840 --> 01:23:24,439
Speaker 1: in her quest for perfection, spending thirteen thousand, seven hundred

1662
01:23:24,479 --> 01:23:29,320
Speaker 1: and fifty dollars on a risky rib removal procedure, because

1663
01:23:29,360 --> 01:23:32,000
Speaker 1: you know, you become so skinny so fast, and like,

1664
01:23:32,040 --> 01:23:34,560
Speaker 1: you know, obviously, when you're really really skinny, oh hey,

1665
01:23:34,240 --> 01:23:36,720
Speaker 1: I could see your ribs, you need to eat a cheeseburger.

1666
01:23:36,920 --> 01:23:38,880
Speaker 1: You remember when people would say it, like yeah, you

1667
01:23:38,920 --> 01:23:41,360
Speaker 1: know when people would say that the kids, how much,

1668
01:23:41,439 --> 01:23:44,479
Speaker 1: just like back off your dosage of ozembic rather than

1669
01:23:44,760 --> 01:23:48,520
Speaker 1: go and get a rib remove that's pretty crazy and invasive,

1670
01:23:48,760 --> 01:23:52,040
Speaker 1: having a total of six ribs taken out of her body,

1671
01:23:52,080 --> 01:23:55,800
Speaker 1: three from each side, yes, three from each side. But

1672
01:23:55,880 --> 01:23:58,200
Speaker 1: your your rib cage, you know, is there for a reason.

1673
01:23:58,280 --> 01:23:59,200
Speaker 2: It's not arbitrary.

1674
01:23:59,439 --> 01:24:04,679
Speaker 1: There to protect old right, yeah, you're pancreas, your stomach

1675
01:24:04,760 --> 01:24:06,880
Speaker 1: and all that keep it from gold torso up and

1676
01:24:06,960 --> 01:24:12,240
Speaker 1: right yeah, and all that from getting injured from each

1677
01:24:12,479 --> 01:24:16,640
Speaker 1: It would allow Emily James Uh. She had hoped to

1678
01:24:16,800 --> 01:24:21,360
Speaker 1: instantly achieve the perfect physique she had always dreamed of. Instead,

1679
01:24:21,439 --> 01:24:26,960
Speaker 1: James found herself in a waking nightmare as after going

1680
01:24:27,040 --> 01:24:29,320
Speaker 1: under the Knight to shrink her waistline from thirty two

1681
01:24:29,360 --> 01:24:34,439
Speaker 1: inches to twenty four. The lifestyle influencer said she had

1682
01:24:34,520 --> 01:24:38,200
Speaker 1: nothing but regret over her decision to go for the

1683
01:24:38,320 --> 01:24:42,560
Speaker 1: not so quick fix and then removing her ribs. That

1684
01:24:43,520 --> 01:24:46,599
Speaker 1: I don't recommend rib removal surgery to anyone, she said,

1685
01:24:47,960 --> 01:24:51,639
Speaker 1: I would, Yeah, that's she just goes to your point.

1686
01:24:51,800 --> 01:24:55,799
Speaker 1: They are no longer they are no longer ribs protecting

1687
01:24:55,840 --> 01:24:58,800
Speaker 1: my liver and kidneys, which could be a problem if

1688
01:24:58,840 --> 01:25:02,600
Speaker 1: I'm ever in a bad as or experience an extreme impact.

1689
01:25:03,000 --> 01:25:05,840
Speaker 1: I don't care about that. I mean beautiful and rich,

1690
01:25:05,960 --> 01:25:10,200
Speaker 1: it's fine, crazy, as you said, They're there for a reason,

1691
01:25:10,240 --> 01:25:12,840
Speaker 1: there for a reason, all right, and we are done

1692
01:25:13,000 --> 01:25:15,360
Speaker 1: for a reason. And that reason is who Day. Today

1693
01:25:15,439 --> 01:25:18,040
Speaker 1: is next, and then Red's Hot Stove League. We'll see

1694
01:25:18,040 --> 01:25:19,600
Speaker 1: you tomorrow. Seven hundred WLW