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Speaker 1: Aviation issues and have a couple of yucks and some fun.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back, my friend, it's always great heaving on the show.

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Speaker 1: My pleasure to be here, my friend. Good morning, Good morning.

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Speaker 1: A topic number one. I embrace this all day long.

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Speaker 1: I was talking about was in a doctor's office, wit

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Speaker 1: in the waiting room, and some clowns sitting in the

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Speaker 1: corner had her cell phone blasting. I mean you could

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Speaker 1: hear it down the hall just looking at I don't know,

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Speaker 1: watching some YouTube video, some promo anyway. Just absolutely rude.

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Speaker 1: I mean that's just downright rude. Well, United Airlines stepping

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Speaker 1: up to the plate and dealing with things like this.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, in fact, they have changed their carriage of contract.

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Speaker 2: That's the legal terms. Since the airline tickets to reservation,

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Speaker 2: that's a legal contract between us and the airline. United

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Speaker 2: change their legal wording saying look, if we have passengers

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Speaker 2: that have these electronic devices that they failed to use

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Speaker 2: their airphones or headphones, yeah we'll kick them off the flight.

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Speaker 2: We could ban them from flying United Airlines. So it's

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Speaker 2: really the first step by me your airline to say, look,

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Speaker 2: if you're going to act like this and be this

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Speaker 2: inconsiderate to people you're sitting butt to butt, cheek the

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Speaker 2: cheek next to then we won't have you and you

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Speaker 2: could be removed from the plane. Now, if somebody's doing

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Speaker 2: it during the course of the flight, they'll be reminded

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Speaker 2: by a flight attendant that they need to change what

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Speaker 2: they're doing, and if they don't when they land, they're

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Speaker 2: not getting on their connecting flight and they may not

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Speaker 2: be allowed to fly United Airlines ever again. Because once

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Speaker 2: you start disregarding, disobeying, ignoring the instructions of a uniform

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Speaker 2: crew member, that is in essence of felony, and you're

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Speaker 2: preventing them from doing the jobs that they need to do.

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Speaker 2: From a safety related standpoint, it's just stupid to do it.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, there's and I don't, Brian, I've never understood it.

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Speaker 2: And I look at people when they're doing that, and

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Speaker 2: they look at me, and I guess I just don't

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Speaker 2: have the you know, the forward nature to say, we're

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Speaker 2: not all interested in what you're listening to talking about?

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Speaker 2: Is there any you know? But you know, I don't.

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Speaker 2: I just look at them thinking that maybe they've got

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Speaker 2: some civility within them, and they'll realize, Oh, I guess

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Speaker 2: you know, having my phone at volume twenty nine and

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Speaker 2: people for seventeen rows can hear what I'm talking about

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Speaker 2: is a bit u man, you know, But you just

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Speaker 2: don't know the way people are these days. You just

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Speaker 2: I don't mean to be a cynic Brian, but you know,

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Speaker 2: just common courtesy these days. I'm surprised when I get

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Speaker 2: the kind of courteous behavior I would like to see.

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Speaker 2: The other stuff doesn't surprise me. I tell Sherry that

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Speaker 2: all the time when we go out and we have

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Speaker 2: to endure something at a store somewhere, and I said, well, sadly,

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Speaker 2: that's the kind of behavior we've come to expect these.

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Speaker 1: Days, isn't it the truth? It's like common sense. It

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Speaker 1: isn't common anymore, that courtesy we used to count on

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Speaker 2: I just did all right, But thank you, thank you

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Speaker 2: United for doing I mean, normally they're not the ones

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Speaker 2: leading the charge on stuff like this, so I'm thrilled

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Speaker 2: to see it.

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Speaker 1: All right. And yet again a week doesn't go bob,

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Speaker 1: we only have planes running into each other one during taxing.

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Speaker 1: We have yet another one. Spirit Airlines. A bit of

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Speaker 1: a bad luck trend going on here, Jay.

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Speaker 2: Spirit by a break, they're selling their planes. They're trying to,

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Speaker 2: you know, just concentrate on the most profitable routes. That

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Speaker 2: it's not a skeleton crew, but it's getting there. And

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Speaker 2: they've got this this airplane that's in the process of

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Speaker 2: de icing at Newark, and this Singapore Airlines super jumbo

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Speaker 2: jet is being pushed out for taxi and boom runs

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Speaker 2: right into it. This wasn't a glancing blow. They plowed

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Speaker 2: into this, ramming the vertical stabilizer, the part that sticks

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Speaker 2: up in the back. That Singapore Airlines flight was preparing

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Speaker 2: for a nineteen hour flight, so all the people, all

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Speaker 2: the luggage has to come off of both planes. But

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Speaker 2: it wasn't long ago that we had a Delta Airlines

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Speaker 2: flight ram into a Spirit Airlines flight. Again on the ground,

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Speaker 2: no serious injuries, just damage to the aircraft. But it's like, Spirit,

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Speaker 2: do we need to paint our airplanes a different color?

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Speaker 2: We seem to be attracting all these planes and Brian,

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Speaker 2: when you've got a team of people around an aircraft

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Speaker 2: to stop the progression. They're gonna say, wait a minute,

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Speaker 2: things aren't lined up here, and they're gonna make the

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Speaker 2: necessary adjustments. At Northwest Airlines, anytime we had aircraft damage

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Speaker 2: like this that was so easily preventable, it was clear

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Speaker 2: that not only one, but several people weren't doing their job.

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Speaker 2: And now you've got an aircraft people canceled, the multiple

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Speaker 2: flights at aircraft was supposed to run that day canceled.

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Speaker 2: You've got now just a big billboard until it gets fixed,

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Speaker 2: sitting there by maintenance crews. And it typically happens in

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Speaker 2: even harder to fix. And it's it's just absolutely annoying.

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Speaker 2: But once again, yeah, spirit gets dinged by another aircraft

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Speaker 2: and caused all kinds of problems.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and just sort of something of what you said.

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Speaker 1: I find it impossible to believe given the expense and

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Speaker 1: hassle that is associated with this happening, and all of

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Speaker 1: the people around the two giant aircraft could ever run

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Speaker 1: into each other at.

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Speaker 2: A slow speed for something. For some airlines, it's caused

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Speaker 2: to lose your job. So there's not an intent for

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Speaker 2: the people on the ground to say, hey, look, you

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Speaker 2: know I've got to really be on my toes here.

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Speaker 2: But it's like everything else. Once you get laxed, you

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Speaker 2: get a little sloppy, and mistakes can happen. It happens

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Speaker 2: all the time. I don't care if you're trading stocks,

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Speaker 2: or you're pushing an airplane back, if you get distracted,

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Speaker 2: and things can really blow up in your face. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I was thinking there's no rear view mirror in the cockpit,

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Speaker 1: but you know, I have a backup camera in my car.

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Speaker 1: This comes standard. Do you think there be a backup

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Speaker 1: camera in the airplane to show what's surrounding you?

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Speaker 2: Maybe one of those loud bills, you know. I'm a

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Speaker 2: scooter at Kroger right exactly.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll bring Jay back. We got quite a few

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Speaker 1: a fourteen hour flight to know are those among the

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Speaker 1: topics with Iheartbabe aviation expert Jay Ratlift, don't go away.

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Speaker 1: I'd be right back.

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Speaker 3: Fifty five KRC.

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Speaker 1: A KRC Deep Talk Station. Have never been in a

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Speaker 1: cockpit before. A thirty eight fifty VET TIRCD talk dation

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Speaker 1: Brian Thomas with iHeartMedia Aviation expert Jay Rattle of every

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Speaker 1: Thursday Minu eight thirty. Get him to the end of

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Speaker 1: the segment and I love having them on the program.

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Speaker 1: I hope you do as much as I do. Somebody's

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Speaker 1: always complaining about something, and now we have a new

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Speaker 1: boarding policy at Southwest Airlines. Why the complaints, Jay?

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Speaker 2: People think if they complain enough, Brian, Southwest will change

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Speaker 2: their business model. These are people that liked the open seating.

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Speaker 2: So at every opportunity they're complaining at the top of

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Speaker 2: their lungs about how this isn't working. Failed experiment, you

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Speaker 2: tried it, We need to go back to what we

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Speaker 2: couple of groups. One the groups that are traveling with families,

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Speaker 2: where they do not ahead of time when they're making

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Speaker 2: day of departure and here's my family of four, we

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Speaker 2: need a seat to sign. Well, okay, you didn't pay

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Speaker 2: to have them done in advance. I've got these seats available,

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Speaker 2: none of them are together. Enjoy your flight, And of

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Speaker 2: course the family's just freaking out saying, wait, man, you

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Speaker 2: can't separate my family. No, we're not separating your family.

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Speaker 2: You separated your family by not spending the few extra

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Speaker 2: put all your family together, and that's really creating some

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Speaker 2: onboard problems. And Southwest is saying, look, we're looking into it,

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Speaker 2: other people that are complaining are those that are boarding

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Speaker 2: Let's say you're in row twenty three, Brian, when they

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Speaker 2: get to a road about ten or eleven, I don't

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Speaker 2: need to carry this in carry bag anymore. They throw

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Speaker 2: for taken and of course the only open space. Hey,

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Speaker 2: we got run back here above roke twenty three. I

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Speaker 2: don't want my bag back there.

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Speaker 1: You can't get to it. You got to wait till

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Speaker 1: the entire planes de border before you. Actually, I hate that.

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Speaker 2: And flight attendants try to police this, and they do

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Speaker 2: it when there's a first class section pretty good, but

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Speaker 2: it's it's almost impossible in coach. So Southwest has decided,

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Speaker 2: and Brian, when I read this, I knew you would

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Speaker 2: love it as much as me. They've got the the

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Speaker 2: iron clad way of correcting this behavior where it won't

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Speaker 2: happen anymore. They've decided they're going to put a sticker

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Speaker 2: wonder how many committees it took to come up with

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Speaker 2: the sticker idea. It's not gonna work. You and I

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Speaker 2: laugh at that, knowing good luck at that.

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Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, we just need to know the law

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Speaker 1: in the book. They'll just say it's illegal. Yeah, sure,

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Speaker 1: that'll work, right.

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Speaker 2: I mean, if you slap a sticker up there saying look,

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Speaker 2: we're gonna find you three thousand dollars if you put

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Speaker 2: your bag here, now, I like that that might be

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Speaker 2: something that's going to get somebody's attention.

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Speaker 1: That worked now, and that worked for me yesterday. I

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Speaker 1: was going to listen to lunch downtown Loveland. I went

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Speaker 1: the back way along the river and there was a

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Speaker 1: The river is elevated above the roadway, and right there

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Speaker 1: underneath it had said two thousand dollars fine for ignoring this.

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Speaker 1: And I'm looking down the road going well, the water's

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Speaker 1: already receded. But you know what kept me from going

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Speaker 1: around the sign? Two thousand dollars. I know'd be a

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Speaker 2: Listen, now, let's not be tomorrow's story. I feel your pain.

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Speaker 1: There, brother, no question. All right, let's combine the two

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Speaker 1: stories involving Iran. First, the fourteen hour flight to nowhere

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Speaker 1: and is the Iranian situation causing fuel prices to rise.

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Speaker 1: Irana the Aviation News.

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Speaker 2: It is fuel prices are going up. Airlines have yet

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Speaker 2: to really adjust to any significance to their future fairs,

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Speaker 2: but Brian, that's coming. So if anybody's planning on flying

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Speaker 2: the end of the year, and you're kind of on

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Speaker 2: the fence, my suggestion is locking those fares in as

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Speaker 1: Jay rat Left. Jay Rattleft. You think people get the

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Joe Trucker. Yeah, that is, that is, that's

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Speaker 1: my listeners always enjoy our conversations. We'll do it again

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