1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:04,160 Speaker 1: Brian Edwards along with Nate Jackson donning full flannel today. 2 00:00:04,200 --> 00:00:05,800 Speaker 1: I'm very happy to see that. How are you, man, 3 00:00:06,080 --> 00:00:07,920 Speaker 1: I'm good, I'm good. I wanted to make you proud. 4 00:00:08,080 --> 00:00:11,560 Speaker 1: You aren't with the one I got for Christmas. That's 5 00:00:11,560 --> 00:00:14,239 Speaker 1: a Christmas plan, Christmas flannel. Haven't worn it much. Thought 6 00:00:14,240 --> 00:00:16,480 Speaker 1: i'd break it out for you today because that's how 7 00:00:16,560 --> 00:00:17,840 Speaker 1: much I respect your flannel. 8 00:00:18,040 --> 00:00:20,959 Speaker 2: Don't you feel like put together? Like? Doesn't it? 9 00:00:21,120 --> 00:00:22,759 Speaker 1: There's a there's a comfort, it's like even wrapped in 10 00:00:22,760 --> 00:00:25,279 Speaker 1: a warm blankets. I did, okay, going to give me 11 00:00:25,280 --> 00:00:27,600 Speaker 1: a hug, and I mean we can. But you have 12 00:00:27,640 --> 00:00:28,680 Speaker 1: the flannels, so you don't need me. 13 00:00:28,840 --> 00:00:29,080 Speaker 2: I do. 14 00:00:31,280 --> 00:00:33,879 Speaker 1: But no, I'm feeling good man, and uh happy to 15 00:00:33,880 --> 00:00:36,120 Speaker 1: be here on a on a fun Friday, and a 16 00:00:36,159 --> 00:00:39,839 Speaker 1: fun Friday, not a football Friday, not anymore. It's all 17 00:00:39,880 --> 00:00:43,159 Speaker 1: over now before we have a lot to get to, 18 00:00:43,479 --> 00:00:44,760 Speaker 1: a lot of really fun stuff to get to. We 19 00:00:44,800 --> 00:00:48,640 Speaker 1: got Christian Fourier going off, yeah about the SeeU buffs 20 00:00:49,040 --> 00:00:52,760 Speaker 1: and uh, coach Prime not a fan, He's not a fan. Uh. 21 00:00:52,800 --> 00:00:55,040 Speaker 1: Maybe Drew Brees was going to be the quarterback after 22 00:00:55,080 --> 00:00:57,040 Speaker 1: all for the Broncos and the AFC championship game where 23 00:00:57,040 --> 00:00:57,400 Speaker 1: you get. 24 00:00:57,280 --> 00:00:58,960 Speaker 2: To that coming up here a little bit. Yeah, I 25 00:00:58,960 --> 00:00:59,880 Speaker 2: know that about that. 26 00:01:00,480 --> 00:01:04,520 Speaker 1: And Jared Carr wants only want super Bowl winners seas 27 00:01:04,560 --> 00:01:06,240 Speaker 1: He's not coming back for anything less than a super 28 00:01:06,240 --> 00:01:09,840 Speaker 1: Bowl winner. But quick thoughts, super Bowl, was there some 29 00:01:09,840 --> 00:01:12,640 Speaker 1: of your big takeaways from that bad game? 30 00:01:12,680 --> 00:01:12,880 Speaker 2: Man? 31 00:01:13,680 --> 00:01:13,840 Speaker 3: You know? 32 00:01:13,920 --> 00:01:16,160 Speaker 1: And it was hard to watch his Broncos fan because 33 00:01:16,360 --> 00:01:17,679 Speaker 1: you picture yourself being there. 34 00:01:18,319 --> 00:01:20,679 Speaker 2: The Broncos, I think would have given a better, better 35 00:01:20,720 --> 00:01:23,480 Speaker 2: shot to the Seattle Seahawks and the better overall team. Yeah, 36 00:01:23,560 --> 00:01:24,479 Speaker 2: it felt like like. 37 00:01:24,440 --> 00:01:27,080 Speaker 1: The Broncos defense would have made it a lot harder 38 00:01:27,120 --> 00:01:33,319 Speaker 1: on Seattle's offense there. And then also just the the 39 00:01:33,480 --> 00:01:37,120 Speaker 1: fact that the runner up in the MVP voting couldn't 40 00:01:37,160 --> 00:01:39,880 Speaker 1: hit an open receiver in the Super Bowl. It doesn't 41 00:01:39,920 --> 00:01:42,280 Speaker 1: speak well about the MVP voting and the way we 42 00:01:42,360 --> 00:01:45,760 Speaker 1: kind of annoyed these quarterbacks maybe before they are worthy 43 00:01:45,880 --> 00:01:46,240 Speaker 1: of that. 44 00:01:46,440 --> 00:01:49,400 Speaker 2: And Drake many kind of just shrunk, and not just 45 00:01:49,440 --> 00:01:51,440 Speaker 2: in the playoffs, but in the Super Bowl itself. 46 00:01:51,560 --> 00:01:54,200 Speaker 1: You want one of the best players in the league 47 00:01:54,360 --> 00:01:56,800 Speaker 1: to rise up in that moment, and he didn't. He 48 00:01:57,240 --> 00:02:00,200 Speaker 1: looked small, he looked overwhelmed, and he couldn't had an 49 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:02,920 Speaker 1: open receiver. There was a couple throws he missed round 50 00:02:02,960 --> 00:02:06,360 Speaker 1: that I think you would have hit. Well, you've never 51 00:02:06,360 --> 00:02:08,440 Speaker 1: seen me throw a ball. It's not great, it's not pretty. 52 00:02:08,639 --> 00:02:11,320 Speaker 1: But it was disappointing to see that kind of football 53 00:02:11,400 --> 00:02:14,520 Speaker 1: being played at the highest level, you know, and with 54 00:02:14,639 --> 00:02:17,640 Speaker 1: all those you know, one hundred and forty million whatever 55 00:02:17,639 --> 00:02:19,160 Speaker 1: it was people watching. You want to see a good 56 00:02:19,160 --> 00:02:21,840 Speaker 1: football game. It was not a single touchdown in the 57 00:02:21,840 --> 00:02:23,840 Speaker 1: first three quarters. I think maybe at the very end 58 00:02:23,880 --> 00:02:26,160 Speaker 1: of the third quarter. Just fun just not fun football 59 00:02:26,200 --> 00:02:28,720 Speaker 1: to watch. And it's just like, you know, New England's 60 00:02:28,720 --> 00:02:30,919 Speaker 1: going to go down in history this season as the 61 00:02:30,960 --> 00:02:34,000 Speaker 1: team is like the worst Super Bowl team ever. Just 62 00:02:34,080 --> 00:02:37,359 Speaker 1: in the conversation, it is, right, man, that's good. That's 63 00:02:37,360 --> 00:02:38,959 Speaker 1: not a good look for the NFL. It wasn't a 64 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:41,160 Speaker 1: great day for the NFL. No, I mean not really, 65 00:02:41,840 --> 00:02:43,720 Speaker 1: not from the game perspective, for sure. 66 00:02:43,720 --> 00:02:45,080 Speaker 2: I mean they got a lot of ratings, you know, 67 00:02:45,160 --> 00:02:45,640 Speaker 2: for all of it. 68 00:02:45,720 --> 00:02:49,639 Speaker 1: But you're right in the sense that and I said afterwards, 69 00:02:49,639 --> 00:02:53,160 Speaker 1: I had Rick on on Monday and I said, the 70 00:02:53,280 --> 00:02:55,799 Speaker 1: Patriots now are going to go down as a fraud team, right, 71 00:02:56,200 --> 00:02:59,880 Speaker 1: People talked about them all season having the softest schedule, 72 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:03,360 Speaker 1: and then their path to the super Bowl to the 73 00:03:03,400 --> 00:03:06,680 Speaker 1: three playoff games, they played a really banged up Chargers 74 00:03:06,680 --> 00:03:09,680 Speaker 1: team and they own that matchup. Then it was a 75 00:03:09,680 --> 00:03:12,000 Speaker 1: snow game against the Texans, who are an elite defense 76 00:03:12,080 --> 00:03:14,280 Speaker 1: but obviously had some issues on offense, who was also 77 00:03:14,320 --> 00:03:16,680 Speaker 1: missing their top wide receiver for that game. And then 78 00:03:16,720 --> 00:03:18,760 Speaker 1: the Broncos are missing their starting quarterback. So it's like 79 00:03:19,280 --> 00:03:21,520 Speaker 1: your path to the super Bowl on top of the 80 00:03:21,560 --> 00:03:23,680 Speaker 1: fact that you had the easiest strength of schedule of 81 00:03:23,680 --> 00:03:26,840 Speaker 1: any team in the last like thirty years to get 82 00:03:26,880 --> 00:03:30,720 Speaker 1: to the super Bowl, and then you have that performance, 83 00:03:30,720 --> 00:03:33,519 Speaker 1: then yeah, there's no other explanation for it than they're 84 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:35,880 Speaker 1: a fraud and so they have to wear that all offseason. 85 00:03:36,080 --> 00:03:38,800 Speaker 1: As I said to Rick, I said, I for what 86 00:03:38,840 --> 00:03:41,240 Speaker 1: it's worth, I think the Broncos would have given them 87 00:03:41,240 --> 00:03:43,320 Speaker 1: a better run if they had bo Nicks. I think 88 00:03:43,320 --> 00:03:44,960 Speaker 1: it's a way more competitive game in the sence, they 89 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:48,400 Speaker 1: might even win that thing, but without bow Knicks better run, 90 00:03:48,440 --> 00:03:51,520 Speaker 1: probably still lose. And then at least the Broncos don't 91 00:03:51,520 --> 00:03:55,040 Speaker 1: have to go through fraud discussion this entire offseason because 92 00:03:55,080 --> 00:03:56,160 Speaker 1: during the course of the year, there was a lot 93 00:03:56,160 --> 00:03:58,600 Speaker 1: of people saying, well, le Broncos are frauds because of 94 00:03:58,640 --> 00:04:00,160 Speaker 1: the way they were winning, And you think if theyould 95 00:04:00,160 --> 00:04:01,600 Speaker 1: have made it to the Super Bowl and played the 96 00:04:01,640 --> 00:04:04,600 Speaker 1: Seahawks and lost, they would have been considered a fraud. 97 00:04:04,840 --> 00:04:07,040 Speaker 1: I think if they get embarrassed by the Seahawks, it'll 98 00:04:07,040 --> 00:04:09,960 Speaker 1: be a similar conversation because they were the second easiest 99 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:12,800 Speaker 1: strength of schedule number one. Yes, the number one was 100 00:04:12,800 --> 00:04:14,760 Speaker 1: the Patriots. Number two is the Broncos, So it would 101 00:04:14,760 --> 00:04:16,560 Speaker 1: have been the same thing. It's a national narrative and 102 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:18,400 Speaker 1: maybe some people don't care about that sort of thing, 103 00:04:18,680 --> 00:04:21,320 Speaker 1: but I'm just saying, at least for Broncos fans, you 104 00:04:21,320 --> 00:04:22,240 Speaker 1: don't have to endure that. 105 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:24,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe it's just me. I think the Broncos defense 106 00:04:24,640 --> 00:04:27,120 Speaker 2: would have come up with some big plays against Seattle. 107 00:04:27,960 --> 00:04:30,320 Speaker 2: Sam Donald, he won the MVP of the Super Bowl, 108 00:04:30,360 --> 00:04:31,479 Speaker 2: but he had some bad passes. 109 00:04:31,839 --> 00:04:34,479 Speaker 1: Keith Walker. I'm sorry, Kenith Walker. My bast Sam Donald. 110 00:04:35,320 --> 00:04:38,560 Speaker 1: He got some Disneyland. Okay, he had to Disneyland. Yeah, 111 00:04:38,560 --> 00:04:40,720 Speaker 1: cause that's right. Kenneth Walker first running back to win 112 00:04:40,720 --> 00:04:42,640 Speaker 1: the MVP. S and Sorel Davison's right, How did I 113 00:04:42,680 --> 00:04:43,240 Speaker 1: forget that? 114 00:04:43,640 --> 00:04:43,839 Speaker 2: Right? 115 00:04:44,120 --> 00:04:46,839 Speaker 1: But Sam Donald threw some bad passes as well, and 116 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:49,120 Speaker 1: I think the Broncos defense would have capitalized on some 117 00:04:49,160 --> 00:04:52,320 Speaker 1: of that created some havoc back there that the Patriots 118 00:04:52,320 --> 00:04:54,600 Speaker 1: didn't but hey, should it could have would It was 119 00:04:54,600 --> 00:04:55,520 Speaker 1: a good season. 120 00:04:55,240 --> 00:04:57,880 Speaker 2: Man, season, It was a good season. And now well 121 00:04:57,960 --> 00:04:59,880 Speaker 2: the twenty twenty sixth season has begun. 122 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:02,920 Speaker 1: Has and well I mean officially in March when the 123 00:05:03,040 --> 00:05:05,120 Speaker 1: league ear opens, but yes, we're We're all on to 124 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:05,880 Speaker 1: twenty twenty six. 125 00:05:05,880 --> 00:05:08,920 Speaker 2: It's anybody's ball game now, that's right, right, anybody can do. 126 00:05:08,960 --> 00:05:12,720 Speaker 1: Zero Yeah, across the board. I'm excited where the Broncos 127 00:05:12,720 --> 00:05:12,960 Speaker 1: are at. 128 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:13,560 Speaker 2: How about you? 129 00:05:13,640 --> 00:05:17,960 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, I mean defying all expectations. Fourteen and 130 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:22,960 Speaker 1: three win the AFC West, thrown the Chiefs, just saying, 131 00:05:23,920 --> 00:05:26,840 Speaker 1: and you know, had some surprising performances by a lot 132 00:05:26,839 --> 00:05:30,920 Speaker 1: of players, and defense was a championship caliber offense needs 133 00:05:31,040 --> 00:05:33,520 Speaker 1: some improvement, but still were able to come up with 134 00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:35,800 Speaker 1: big plays when they needed them and find ways to 135 00:05:35,839 --> 00:05:38,240 Speaker 1: win close games. And really this was a unit that 136 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:41,120 Speaker 1: was for the last decade the Broncos have been trying 137 00:05:41,120 --> 00:05:42,360 Speaker 1: to figure out how to win those games. 138 00:05:42,720 --> 00:05:44,160 Speaker 2: It's a gross points, right, yep. 139 00:05:44,240 --> 00:05:46,560 Speaker 1: And so now they know and now they believe, and 140 00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:48,080 Speaker 1: that the belief is a powerful thing. 141 00:05:48,360 --> 00:05:49,280 Speaker 2: It's a powerful force. 142 00:05:49,320 --> 00:05:51,120 Speaker 1: But you got to back that up with some guys 143 00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:55,440 Speaker 1: who can play four quarters of complimentary offensive football. And 144 00:05:55,480 --> 00:05:58,400 Speaker 1: I think ultimately that's what this offseason is about, steadying 145 00:05:58,440 --> 00:06:01,920 Speaker 1: the offense, finding a way to have complimentary football. 146 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:03,960 Speaker 2: And to me, that means getting. 147 00:06:03,680 --> 00:06:08,080 Speaker 1: Football players on the offense, not gadget guys, not guys 148 00:06:08,120 --> 00:06:10,200 Speaker 1: who come on for this special play and then run off, 149 00:06:10,600 --> 00:06:11,919 Speaker 1: guys who can do it all well. 150 00:06:12,360 --> 00:06:14,480 Speaker 2: And I think that's what they need to look for 151 00:06:14,720 --> 00:06:15,480 Speaker 2: perfect well. 152 00:06:15,600 --> 00:06:17,840 Speaker 1: And I definitely will we'll dive a little more into that. 153 00:06:17,880 --> 00:06:20,680 Speaker 1: I made a mistake yesterday. I had Nick Ferguson, who 154 00:06:21,080 --> 00:06:23,240 Speaker 1: I love Nick and he does a great job. But 155 00:06:23,320 --> 00:06:25,440 Speaker 1: I had a conversation with him that I should have 156 00:06:25,440 --> 00:06:27,200 Speaker 1: had with you, that I wanted to have with you. 157 00:06:27,960 --> 00:06:30,880 Speaker 1: And I knew I made a mistake probably halfway through 158 00:06:30,880 --> 00:06:35,440 Speaker 1: the segment with him, because I asked him how much 159 00:06:35,560 --> 00:06:39,320 Speaker 1: the win by bone Knicks against Josh Allen and the 160 00:06:39,320 --> 00:06:43,159 Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills would maybe elevate bo Nicks's standing within the 161 00:06:43,200 --> 00:06:45,159 Speaker 1: rest of the quarterbacks of the league because because winning 162 00:06:45,160 --> 00:06:45,960 Speaker 1: in the postseason it. 163 00:06:46,040 --> 00:06:46,480 Speaker 2: Me it matters. 164 00:06:46,560 --> 00:06:48,000 Speaker 1: You get to win in the biggest games. You gotta 165 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:50,000 Speaker 1: win the biggest moments. And he went toe to toe. Now, 166 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:52,559 Speaker 1: the five takeaways from the defense matters. And of course 167 00:06:52,920 --> 00:06:56,120 Speaker 1: when I asked Nick the question, like how much does 168 00:06:56,640 --> 00:07:00,640 Speaker 1: bo Nicks's performance elevate him amongst the coquarterbacks in the 169 00:07:00,680 --> 00:07:03,480 Speaker 1: league and how we should view him, Nick immediately went 170 00:07:03,480 --> 00:07:04,760 Speaker 1: to the defense, which. 171 00:07:04,520 --> 00:07:07,160 Speaker 2: Is a nick thing. Defense with champion That's right. He 172 00:07:07,200 --> 00:07:10,680 Speaker 2: immediately defense championships, immediately. 173 00:07:10,360 --> 00:07:12,920 Speaker 1: To defense with championships, Like you know, the five takeaways 174 00:07:12,920 --> 00:07:13,680 Speaker 1: certainly helped bo. 175 00:07:13,720 --> 00:07:17,960 Speaker 2: Nicks win negg Bro, so can you? And I said 176 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:19,760 Speaker 2: to I acknowledged him. It was a team game. 177 00:07:20,160 --> 00:07:23,240 Speaker 1: I know we all know, and I know that a 178 00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:25,160 Speaker 1: lot of people talk about quarterbacks, but I think that 179 00:07:25,200 --> 00:07:27,680 Speaker 1: the optimism about this team as we're talking about it, 180 00:07:28,600 --> 00:07:30,000 Speaker 1: Bonix has to be good. 181 00:07:29,880 --> 00:07:30,360 Speaker 2: Like you can't. 182 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:32,840 Speaker 1: You can't have a great team around a bad quarterback. 183 00:07:33,160 --> 00:07:36,680 Speaker 1: It seldom works that way. Once in a while, you 184 00:07:36,800 --> 00:07:39,520 Speaker 1: have the twenty fifteen Broncos where Peyton Manning was not 185 00:07:39,680 --> 00:07:41,720 Speaker 1: his elite self at that time. 186 00:07:41,760 --> 00:07:44,680 Speaker 2: Peyton Manny a bad quarterback. Well that at that point 187 00:07:44,680 --> 00:07:45,960 Speaker 2: in his career. I don't know. 188 00:07:46,080 --> 00:07:48,880 Speaker 1: I mean, but the numbers like he had more interceptions 189 00:07:48,880 --> 00:07:51,480 Speaker 1: than touchdowns. Dude, that's just a fact. 190 00:07:51,840 --> 00:07:54,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, so I mean, how many how many good I'll. 191 00:07:54,400 --> 00:07:56,320 Speaker 1: Just ask you, how many good quarterbacks do you know. 192 00:07:56,320 --> 00:07:57,880 Speaker 2: Have more interceptions than the touchdowns? 193 00:07:58,360 --> 00:08:02,960 Speaker 1: It happens, It's not often, but you know, there's context 194 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:05,520 Speaker 1: as to why Peyton Manning had the type of year 195 00:08:05,560 --> 00:08:05,960 Speaker 1: he had. 196 00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:08,360 Speaker 2: Of course, the offense was different. 197 00:08:08,760 --> 00:08:11,040 Speaker 1: Arry Kubiak comes in and runs a totally different style 198 00:08:11,080 --> 00:08:13,520 Speaker 1: of offense that Peyton's not used to running. Absolutely true, right, 199 00:08:13,520 --> 00:08:16,120 Speaker 1: it took a little bit of the magic away from 200 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:18,000 Speaker 1: what he does at the line of scrimmage and the 201 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:19,720 Speaker 1: pocket things like of that nature. 202 00:08:20,080 --> 00:08:22,400 Speaker 2: And so no, I understand the content. And plus his 203 00:08:22,440 --> 00:08:25,480 Speaker 2: body was failing. Right. Also, he was the leadership. It 204 00:08:25,560 --> 00:08:27,320 Speaker 2: was the belief that we're going to get the job done. 205 00:08:27,360 --> 00:08:31,040 Speaker 1: And so the quarterback position has more to it than 206 00:08:31,080 --> 00:08:32,280 Speaker 1: what you can measure. 207 00:08:32,040 --> 00:08:33,240 Speaker 2: Which is why they want a champion. 208 00:08:33,320 --> 00:08:35,760 Speaker 1: And that's why to circle back to your original question, 209 00:08:35,840 --> 00:08:36,720 Speaker 1: the one that Nick. 210 00:08:36,520 --> 00:08:41,440 Speaker 2: Flubbed, he just butchered it. The defense was great this year, Ryan. 211 00:08:43,920 --> 00:08:47,320 Speaker 1: The reason why what bo did was great and look, 212 00:08:47,480 --> 00:08:50,840 Speaker 1: fans and pundits and analysts, that's one thing. But the 213 00:08:50,920 --> 00:08:53,120 Speaker 1: team itself, the guys in that locker room now believe 214 00:08:53,160 --> 00:08:53,840 Speaker 1: they got the guy. 215 00:08:53,760 --> 00:08:56,079 Speaker 2: To go do it. That's what they have in Bo. 216 00:08:56,400 --> 00:08:57,520 Speaker 2: That's what they saw from him. 217 00:08:57,679 --> 00:09:01,880 Speaker 1: And by the way they saw that, Bo probably pulled 218 00:09:01,920 --> 00:09:04,040 Speaker 1: a lot of that out of the hat in spite 219 00:09:04,040 --> 00:09:07,280 Speaker 1: of some bad offensive play calling, in spite of maybe 220 00:09:07,559 --> 00:09:11,080 Speaker 1: a poor plan, in spite of maybe some inconsistency with 221 00:09:11,160 --> 00:09:16,720 Speaker 1: the offensive coaching processes. Three of them were fired after all, 222 00:09:17,160 --> 00:09:20,320 Speaker 1: So that's an admission that there was some problems on 223 00:09:20,320 --> 00:09:22,880 Speaker 1: the offense. And so I think the entirety of the 224 00:09:22,880 --> 00:09:24,840 Speaker 1: team looks at Bow and says, you made it work. 225 00:09:24,960 --> 00:09:27,360 Speaker 1: In spite of that, we believe that you're going to 226 00:09:27,400 --> 00:09:29,440 Speaker 1: get better and we're going to roll with you. 227 00:09:30,200 --> 00:09:32,720 Speaker 2: So how does it How much does that performance? 228 00:09:32,760 --> 00:09:34,720 Speaker 1: And I do think winning the postseason, even though it's 229 00:09:34,720 --> 00:09:39,480 Speaker 1: a team game, Nick, winning the postseason, you assign some 230 00:09:39,520 --> 00:09:41,800 Speaker 1: of that to quarterbacks, right, the great quarterbacks. 231 00:09:41,800 --> 00:09:43,640 Speaker 2: Finally a way, you know, I mean what it is, 232 00:09:43,679 --> 00:09:44,120 Speaker 2: what it is. 233 00:09:44,360 --> 00:09:47,440 Speaker 1: Quarterback wins are a weird stat anyways, but says, we 234 00:09:47,480 --> 00:09:49,480 Speaker 1: still talk about it, let's do it. How much does 235 00:09:49,520 --> 00:09:52,880 Speaker 1: winning in the postseason, which, by the way, Justin Herbert 236 00:09:52,880 --> 00:09:56,200 Speaker 1: has not done yet ever. Ever, Well, bo Nix gets 237 00:09:56,240 --> 00:09:59,440 Speaker 1: a win in the AFC Divisional Round against I think 238 00:09:59,480 --> 00:10:01,960 Speaker 1: the best team left in the AFC, in the Buffalo Bills. 239 00:10:02,160 --> 00:10:04,920 Speaker 1: How much did that elevate how we view Bonicks going 240 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:09,000 Speaker 1: into this next year? Who's we just pundits people talking 241 00:10:09,040 --> 00:10:13,199 Speaker 1: about fans whatever. I think the whole the entirety of 242 00:10:13,240 --> 00:10:15,959 Speaker 1: the season, not just that win against Josh Allen and 243 00:10:15,960 --> 00:10:18,360 Speaker 1: the Bills, but that was that was an important part 244 00:10:18,400 --> 00:10:21,800 Speaker 1: of it. But the doubts about Bonnicks, you know, the 245 00:10:21,840 --> 00:10:24,480 Speaker 1: conversations that Sean Payton put out there about was going 246 00:10:24,559 --> 00:10:25,280 Speaker 1: to be a top five. 247 00:10:25,160 --> 00:10:27,280 Speaker 2: Quarterback and this is the guy. We got our guy. 248 00:10:27,559 --> 00:10:30,640 Speaker 1: There were a lot of skeptics around that conversation thinking that, 249 00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:33,280 Speaker 1: you know, maybe Sean Payton was artificially pumping up his 250 00:10:33,400 --> 00:10:34,920 Speaker 1: tires so like it right? 251 00:10:34,960 --> 00:10:36,120 Speaker 2: Well, does it still feel like it? 252 00:10:37,360 --> 00:10:41,120 Speaker 1: Well, that's an interesting question because he said he thinks 253 00:10:41,160 --> 00:10:43,200 Speaker 1: Bonis can be a top five quarterback in this league. 254 00:10:44,080 --> 00:10:45,760 Speaker 1: Now he doesn't look like the top five quarterback. Just 255 00:10:45,960 --> 00:10:48,280 Speaker 1: was Josh Allen a top five quarterback? We easily Well, 256 00:10:48,280 --> 00:10:49,720 Speaker 1: he just paid him in the playoffs. 257 00:10:49,720 --> 00:10:52,320 Speaker 2: It's great. See, So what are you saying? Well, so, 258 00:10:52,520 --> 00:10:54,160 Speaker 2: is it a body of work thing? Is it an 259 00:10:54,200 --> 00:10:54,920 Speaker 2: eye test thing? 260 00:10:55,000 --> 00:10:57,200 Speaker 1: Is it a you know, you got to win a 261 00:10:57,240 --> 00:11:00,240 Speaker 1: certain number of playoff games? I mean Josh Allen won 262 00:11:00,280 --> 00:11:03,120 Speaker 1: his first ever road playoff game this last season the 263 00:11:03,160 --> 00:11:06,160 Speaker 1: week before he lost here, that's correct in Jacksonville. So 264 00:11:06,280 --> 00:11:08,800 Speaker 1: Josh Allen has had some humps he hasn't been able 265 00:11:08,840 --> 00:11:10,600 Speaker 1: to get over. Obviously, He's not won the big one. 266 00:11:10,640 --> 00:11:12,240 Speaker 1: He hasn't won a super Bowl. He hasn't even been 267 00:11:12,280 --> 00:11:13,760 Speaker 1: to a super Bowl, right. 268 00:11:13,720 --> 00:11:14,520 Speaker 2: Tell him. 269 00:11:14,640 --> 00:11:17,320 Speaker 1: So, there's a lot of different ways that we judge quarterbacks, 270 00:11:18,080 --> 00:11:21,400 Speaker 1: and ultimately wins and losses in the playoffs factor heavily 271 00:11:21,440 --> 00:11:25,360 Speaker 1: into that. That's why Joe Montana is the second best 272 00:11:25,760 --> 00:11:32,920 Speaker 1: quarterback of all time. I think you're right, Well, many 273 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:35,240 Speaker 1: consider him that when you look at what he did 274 00:11:35,280 --> 00:11:38,680 Speaker 1: in the postseason. I mean, because doesn't Terry Bradshaw have 275 00:11:38,720 --> 00:11:42,640 Speaker 1: like four Yeah? But yeah, so he does. But I 276 00:11:42,840 --> 00:11:45,160 Speaker 1: I think I prefer Joe. But that becomes more. 277 00:11:46,160 --> 00:11:48,400 Speaker 2: Has never thrown an interception in a super Bowl. That's 278 00:11:48,400 --> 00:11:54,120 Speaker 2: pretty pick. That's eleven touchdown, zero interceptions, four for four. Yeah, anyway, 279 00:11:54,679 --> 00:11:56,719 Speaker 2: and it was about you know, he kind of. 280 00:11:58,480 --> 00:12:01,440 Speaker 1: They transcended the old sort of form of a football 281 00:12:01,480 --> 00:12:03,520 Speaker 1: offense with that West Coast thing that they were doing 282 00:12:03,520 --> 00:12:05,800 Speaker 1: with Bill Walsh. And so people look at Joe Montana 283 00:12:05,840 --> 00:12:08,600 Speaker 1: is certainly different than they look at Terry Bradshaw. Yeah, 284 00:12:08,840 --> 00:12:12,000 Speaker 1: Terry Bradshaw is like the like the lucky cousin who 285 00:12:12,040 --> 00:12:14,160 Speaker 1: just stumbled into like, you know, he caught the bouquet. 286 00:12:14,280 --> 00:12:19,720 Speaker 2: Basically. You know, I'm not saying he's not talented, but 287 00:12:19,800 --> 00:12:23,439 Speaker 2: he's like the fun uncle. You know, he wonder he's like, 288 00:12:23,559 --> 00:12:24,720 Speaker 2: oh look at this. Yeah. 289 00:12:24,880 --> 00:12:28,720 Speaker 1: Well the Steelers, the defense was incredible. Championship everybody, now 290 00:12:28,720 --> 00:12:33,120 Speaker 1: he got four of them. Can't take that away. But no, 291 00:12:33,240 --> 00:12:35,319 Speaker 1: I think that what you do with the postseason matters. 292 00:12:35,360 --> 00:12:37,320 Speaker 1: That's why Dan Marino, who probably one of the best 293 00:12:37,360 --> 00:12:40,440 Speaker 1: pure passers ever, isn't considered one of the best of 294 00:12:40,440 --> 00:12:42,240 Speaker 1: all time because he couldn't win the big one. 295 00:12:42,600 --> 00:12:43,400 Speaker 2: And that's not fair. 296 00:12:43,640 --> 00:12:46,120 Speaker 1: Got there once, but it's not even fair because there's 297 00:12:46,120 --> 00:12:48,520 Speaker 1: so many things that have to go right. Case in point, 298 00:12:48,559 --> 00:12:51,160 Speaker 1: your coach, you know, Sean Payton, one hundred percent got 299 00:12:51,240 --> 00:12:53,880 Speaker 1: to be like you gotta be Simpazziko one hundred percent 300 00:12:53,880 --> 00:12:56,720 Speaker 1: is gonna be harmonizing, ye right, And if you're not 301 00:12:56,800 --> 00:12:59,440 Speaker 1: doing that, then you don't look good as a quarterback. 302 00:12:59,520 --> 00:13:02,000 Speaker 2: But it's not your fault. Everything else has to go 303 00:13:02,160 --> 00:13:02,920 Speaker 2: right around you. 304 00:13:03,160 --> 00:13:06,320 Speaker 1: And so that's why sometimes this quarterback idolatry can be 305 00:13:06,400 --> 00:13:08,600 Speaker 1: wrong headed because. 306 00:13:09,679 --> 00:13:12,520 Speaker 2: The other stuff around him mate working and you. 307 00:13:12,440 --> 00:13:14,200 Speaker 1: Want to blame the guy, and I know he makes 308 00:13:14,200 --> 00:13:16,200 Speaker 1: all the money, so he gets those slings and arrows. 309 00:13:16,240 --> 00:13:18,959 Speaker 1: He takes the blame for the losses, and he gets 310 00:13:18,960 --> 00:13:19,840 Speaker 1: praised for the wins. 311 00:13:20,240 --> 00:13:21,439 Speaker 2: But there's more to it than that. 312 00:13:21,640 --> 00:13:24,080 Speaker 1: Always and that's why a guy like Sam Darnold can 313 00:13:24,240 --> 00:13:29,640 Speaker 1: have fail failure, failure, super Bowl Champion. You can't give 314 00:13:29,760 --> 00:13:31,480 Speaker 1: up on these guys, and you have to understand that 315 00:13:31,520 --> 00:13:33,720 Speaker 1: their performance is based on a lot of other factors, 316 00:13:33,800 --> 00:13:36,000 Speaker 1: not just their talent in the pocket. 317 00:13:36,679 --> 00:13:38,240 Speaker 2: There's a lot of things that go into it. 318 00:13:38,240 --> 00:13:41,200 Speaker 1: It's a very fair assessment, and especially with Josh for example, 319 00:13:41,280 --> 00:13:44,800 Speaker 1: because people question some of the talent around him, the talent. 320 00:13:44,559 --> 00:13:45,160 Speaker 2: Of the defense. 321 00:13:45,960 --> 00:13:48,439 Speaker 1: He has shown time and time again that he elevates 322 00:13:48,559 --> 00:13:50,360 Speaker 1: and that's usually when we get into the conversation of 323 00:13:50,360 --> 00:13:51,920 Speaker 1: who are the best quarterbacks in the league. Is the 324 00:13:51,920 --> 00:13:54,000 Speaker 1: guys that elevant, the guys that doesn't matter. If he 325 00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:57,320 Speaker 1: put around Peyton Manne for years out Indianapolis. Yeah, of course, 326 00:13:57,440 --> 00:13:59,640 Speaker 1: early on he had Marvin Harrison and Reggie Wayne and 327 00:14:00,240 --> 00:14:02,640 Speaker 1: bevy of talent. But then as the year started to 328 00:14:02,679 --> 00:14:05,640 Speaker 1: go on there in Indianapolis, you're surrounded by Austin Colli, 329 00:14:06,120 --> 00:14:07,320 Speaker 1: you know, and guys like that. 330 00:14:07,360 --> 00:14:10,200 Speaker 2: It's like, listen, I have nothing wrong with Austin Colley. 331 00:14:10,280 --> 00:14:11,840 Speaker 2: He listen if he's a relative or a fan. 332 00:14:12,040 --> 00:14:15,600 Speaker 1: I just it's an example of a player that if 333 00:14:15,640 --> 00:14:18,200 Speaker 1: you plugged into any other situation. I don't know if 334 00:14:18,240 --> 00:14:21,320 Speaker 1: we know him as a household name pere Gar's song right, 335 00:14:21,400 --> 00:14:22,200 Speaker 1: who ended up having a. 336 00:14:22,240 --> 00:14:23,920 Speaker 2: Nice career even out in Washington. 337 00:14:24,000 --> 00:14:27,040 Speaker 1: Right, he's a three receiver point being he was, he 338 00:14:27,080 --> 00:14:30,520 Speaker 1: was a thousand yard guy because he was with Peyton. 339 00:14:30,920 --> 00:14:34,400 Speaker 2: So that's that's kind of the next level for bow Nicks. 340 00:14:34,440 --> 00:14:37,680 Speaker 1: Now. I don't think he is in that conversation yet 341 00:14:37,680 --> 00:14:39,720 Speaker 1: where he's elevating everybody. But I think he elevates the 342 00:14:39,760 --> 00:14:42,680 Speaker 1: team because he has put them on his back in 343 00:14:42,680 --> 00:14:45,360 Speaker 1: some of these fourth quarter games, and he has found 344 00:14:45,360 --> 00:14:46,880 Speaker 1: ways to close out and he found a way to 345 00:14:46,880 --> 00:14:48,280 Speaker 1: close out against Buffalo. 346 00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:49,320 Speaker 2: And I bring up that specific game. 347 00:14:49,360 --> 00:14:51,120 Speaker 1: I'm glad that you took it more from a thirty 348 00:14:51,160 --> 00:14:53,760 Speaker 1: thousand foot view of the entire season, which is probably 349 00:14:53,760 --> 00:14:56,320 Speaker 1: the important way and more appropriate way to look at it. 350 00:14:56,520 --> 00:14:59,680 Speaker 1: But I keep coming back to the playoff game because 351 00:14:59,680 --> 00:15:02,600 Speaker 1: there was so much on the line there, not just 352 00:15:02,600 --> 00:15:05,560 Speaker 1: getting to the AFC Championship game and hopefully marching to 353 00:15:05,600 --> 00:15:08,000 Speaker 1: a super Bowl, but there is this, Okay, this is 354 00:15:08,040 --> 00:15:11,440 Speaker 1: your second year, take a step forward, Like you got 355 00:15:11,480 --> 00:15:13,040 Speaker 1: to the postseason the first year and you got to 356 00:15:13,040 --> 00:15:15,640 Speaker 1: obliterated by the Bills. It probably wasn't going to be 357 00:15:15,640 --> 00:15:18,400 Speaker 1: good enough just to win or to lose close. Right, 358 00:15:18,640 --> 00:15:22,160 Speaker 1: If the Broncos fell just short against Buffalo, especially after 359 00:15:22,160 --> 00:15:25,480 Speaker 1: they turned the ball over five times, people would be like, well, 360 00:15:25,720 --> 00:15:28,000 Speaker 1: they turned the ball over five times and won that game, 361 00:15:28,760 --> 00:15:32,000 Speaker 1: how good is Bonux Anyways? But instead he put together 362 00:15:32,040 --> 00:15:34,040 Speaker 1: that final drive, put them in a position to get 363 00:15:34,040 --> 00:15:35,160 Speaker 1: the field goal, and they won the game. 364 00:15:35,240 --> 00:15:37,880 Speaker 2: So that's where I come back to. 365 00:15:39,720 --> 00:15:42,120 Speaker 1: I think that put him in the conversation as a 366 00:15:42,120 --> 00:15:44,160 Speaker 1: top ten quarterback this year. Like I think that we 367 00:15:44,560 --> 00:15:48,640 Speaker 1: can comfortably have that discussion top five probably is a 368 00:15:48,680 --> 00:15:50,200 Speaker 1: little bit of a stretch to what Sean Payton is 369 00:15:50,240 --> 00:15:53,120 Speaker 1: looking for, and maybe he can climb into that conversation 370 00:15:53,120 --> 00:15:54,440 Speaker 1: at the end of this year. I think that's more 371 00:15:54,440 --> 00:15:57,240 Speaker 1: of like a year four, year five discussion for Bonix. 372 00:15:57,320 --> 00:15:59,080 Speaker 1: But if it takes another step forward where we just 373 00:15:59,200 --> 00:16:01,560 Speaker 1: know for certain the top ten guy, like that would 374 00:16:01,600 --> 00:16:03,880 Speaker 1: be a big deal. Like like right now, it's more 375 00:16:03,880 --> 00:16:06,280 Speaker 1: of like there was one ranking out there had an eighteen, 376 00:16:06,360 --> 00:16:08,040 Speaker 1: and I'm like, eah, eighteen, it's a little you know, 377 00:16:08,440 --> 00:16:11,400 Speaker 1: you have Caleb Williams at eight, come on now. But 378 00:16:12,040 --> 00:16:14,760 Speaker 1: if he was twelve or thirteen right now, I'd be like, 379 00:16:15,120 --> 00:16:17,520 Speaker 1: it's probably fine. I think from a national narrative that 380 00:16:17,560 --> 00:16:18,680 Speaker 1: like you could you could live with that. And I 381 00:16:18,720 --> 00:16:23,440 Speaker 1: think he's pushing closure to ten in theory the you know, 382 00:16:23,520 --> 00:16:25,960 Speaker 1: top ten feels good until you start putting the names 383 00:16:25,960 --> 00:16:28,160 Speaker 1: down and then you got to you got to put 384 00:16:28,240 --> 00:16:30,560 Speaker 1: him in front of somebody who's has a body of 385 00:16:30,600 --> 00:16:33,200 Speaker 1: work you're you're more impressed with or this or that. 386 00:16:33,760 --> 00:16:35,520 Speaker 2: But I think it's important when we talk. 387 00:16:35,400 --> 00:16:38,600 Speaker 1: About top five or top ten, well, what are the 388 00:16:38,600 --> 00:16:40,920 Speaker 1: criteria we're using to determine that. 389 00:16:41,880 --> 00:16:44,040 Speaker 2: Some of its eye tests some of its stats. It 390 00:16:44,040 --> 00:16:46,040 Speaker 2: could get kind of all over the place exactly, and 391 00:16:46,080 --> 00:16:48,880 Speaker 2: it kind of depends on the conversation. 392 00:16:49,200 --> 00:16:52,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, well that's right. Aaron Rodgers a top ten NFL 393 00:16:52,640 --> 00:16:56,000 Speaker 1: quarterback any more anymore? Right, I mean, obviously he was. 394 00:16:56,120 --> 00:16:57,840 Speaker 1: He was one of the best, if not theva is 395 00:16:57,880 --> 00:16:59,560 Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson. I think he's a. 396 00:16:59,480 --> 00:17:00,920 Speaker 2: Top five yeah, top five? 397 00:17:01,120 --> 00:17:03,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, But he's also had some struggles in the postseason. 398 00:17:03,720 --> 00:17:05,600 Speaker 1: For example, did you make the playoffs this last year? 399 00:17:05,680 --> 00:17:08,320 Speaker 1: Is it a what have you done for me lately? 400 00:17:08,440 --> 00:17:10,240 Speaker 2: Type of thing? What do you right now? 401 00:17:10,320 --> 00:17:12,880 Speaker 1: Because you know Ryan right now, you're a top five 402 00:17:13,000 --> 00:17:17,400 Speaker 1: radio personality in Denver. Now have you been a top 403 00:17:17,480 --> 00:17:19,760 Speaker 1: five radio personality in Denver for the last ten years? 404 00:17:19,760 --> 00:17:22,600 Speaker 1: Maybe not, probably not, but you've been working your way up. 405 00:17:22,920 --> 00:17:25,280 Speaker 1: And there are some guys or some people in town 406 00:17:25,320 --> 00:17:27,960 Speaker 1: who are riding on that reputation, but they're not top 407 00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:28,720 Speaker 1: five anymore. 408 00:17:29,160 --> 00:17:31,320 Speaker 2: They think you have a name or two you want 409 00:17:31,320 --> 00:17:32,600 Speaker 2: to drop in there. Know who they are. 410 00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:38,040 Speaker 1: They're not top five anymore. They think they are. But 411 00:17:38,119 --> 00:17:41,600 Speaker 1: the performance needs to be done over and over again. 412 00:17:41,640 --> 00:17:43,399 Speaker 1: You always have to prove it over and over again. 413 00:17:43,440 --> 00:17:45,680 Speaker 1: So Bo's gonna have to prove it again. Bo's gonna 414 00:17:45,680 --> 00:17:49,119 Speaker 1: have to prove it in twenty twenty six. And I 415 00:17:49,160 --> 00:17:51,480 Speaker 1: don't think he would want it any other way. In fact, 416 00:17:51,560 --> 00:17:53,879 Speaker 1: he can't wait to get on the field right and 417 00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:55,640 Speaker 1: erase the memory of the way it ended. 418 00:17:55,680 --> 00:17:59,439 Speaker 2: And right now he's a rehabit and getting right. We 419 00:17:59,480 --> 00:18:02,760 Speaker 2: need them on time. Uh, you know what kind of montage, Well, like. 420 00:18:02,800 --> 00:18:05,560 Speaker 1: Rocky montage, you know, like we got this thing, yeah, 421 00:18:05,560 --> 00:18:07,399 Speaker 1: you know, vot voat training in the off season. You know, 422 00:18:07,440 --> 00:18:09,440 Speaker 1: like with Rocky, like all of a sudden, he's just 423 00:18:09,520 --> 00:18:11,760 Speaker 1: kind of a easier dude. And then you know, by 424 00:18:11,760 --> 00:18:13,720 Speaker 1: the end of the movies, like this guy could beat anybody. 425 00:18:13,760 --> 00:18:14,080 Speaker 2: That's right. 426 00:18:14,160 --> 00:18:16,160 Speaker 1: You know, he's gonna go to toe with the Russians. 427 00:18:16,320 --> 00:18:19,240 Speaker 1: There we go in season four, this thing, right, so 428 00:18:19,520 --> 00:18:22,639 Speaker 1: you know, tote to toe. Russia have a team, like 429 00:18:22,680 --> 00:18:26,880 Speaker 1: a football team, you know that would that could inspire 430 00:18:26,960 --> 00:18:29,639 Speaker 1: him some more. Yeah, some people actually thought because of 431 00:18:29,680 --> 00:18:30,919 Speaker 1: his hairstyle he looks like Drago. 432 00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:33,600 Speaker 2: He does look a little like on Drago. If he dies, 433 00:18:33,640 --> 00:18:36,119 Speaker 2: they dies, yes, I would break him. 434 00:18:36,600 --> 00:18:38,760 Speaker 1: What it would cost me to have him like do 435 00:18:38,840 --> 00:18:40,520 Speaker 1: a cameo of if he dies? 436 00:18:40,560 --> 00:18:43,400 Speaker 2: He dies vo next, does he do cameos? 437 00:18:43,640 --> 00:18:45,120 Speaker 1: I don't think he's gonna do No, he doesn't, see 438 00:18:45,320 --> 00:18:46,840 Speaker 1: can He doesn't seem like a guy who's just gonna 439 00:18:46,880 --> 00:18:50,920 Speaker 1: say what you want him to say. Yeah, his standards 440 00:18:51,280 --> 00:18:52,560 Speaker 1: our cameos for people. 441 00:18:52,320 --> 00:18:54,359 Speaker 2: Who are like on the on the other side of 442 00:18:54,359 --> 00:18:55,960 Speaker 2: that mountain going down. 443 00:18:56,200 --> 00:18:58,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, And I'm just gonna say somebody that does has 444 00:18:59,080 --> 00:19:00,000 Speaker 1: fewer standards. 445 00:19:00,119 --> 00:19:01,280 Speaker 2: If somebody wants to pay me to. 446 00:19:01,200 --> 00:19:03,399 Speaker 1: Say whatever, I probably would yeah, oh yeah, yah, we 447 00:19:03,440 --> 00:19:06,199 Speaker 1: consider saying you would say anything. 448 00:19:06,200 --> 00:19:08,120 Speaker 2: If there were a price to it, I could pay 449 00:19:08,160 --> 00:19:11,720 Speaker 2: you to say anything I say. I don't think that's true. 450 00:19:11,720 --> 00:19:13,480 Speaker 2: That I don't think that's true. I get nervous. I 451 00:19:13,480 --> 00:19:16,440 Speaker 2: could think of some things that you would not say. 452 00:19:16,680 --> 00:19:16,840 Speaker 3: See. 453 00:19:16,880 --> 00:19:18,960 Speaker 1: I don't even want to dare you, because you probably can. 454 00:19:19,280 --> 00:19:21,640 Speaker 1: I'll just write them down, splide them over and say, 455 00:19:21,720 --> 00:19:25,640 Speaker 1: go ahead. I'll give you a hundred bucks. But let's 456 00:19:25,680 --> 00:19:29,880 Speaker 1: get hates capitalism, God, that one. Why did I say 457 00:19:29,880 --> 00:19:33,199 Speaker 1: that I know what capitalism they hate? No? 458 00:19:33,280 --> 00:19:37,040 Speaker 2: I have nothing, I have nothing, nothing, no criticism. Well, no, 459 00:19:37,080 --> 00:19:37,680 Speaker 2: I have criticism. 460 00:19:37,720 --> 00:19:42,840 Speaker 1: I have criticisms, but I I don't hate capitalism save 461 00:19:42,960 --> 00:19:46,359 Speaker 1: that one. Grant, No, you want that sounds funny, No, 462 00:19:46,440 --> 00:19:49,040 Speaker 1: I was because because Dave tries to convince people and 463 00:19:49,080 --> 00:19:51,240 Speaker 1: I'm a communist, yeah, every single days. 464 00:19:52,960 --> 00:19:54,800 Speaker 2: Hang out with you, but because I like Red. 465 00:19:55,040 --> 00:19:57,040 Speaker 1: No, he he tries to convince everybody that I'm a 466 00:19:57,040 --> 00:19:59,960 Speaker 1: communist all the time. And then I was making fun 467 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:01,679 Speaker 1: of things that he might say, and I said that 468 00:20:01,720 --> 00:20:03,520 Speaker 1: out loud, and then Dave just got this big smile 469 00:20:03,560 --> 00:20:08,320 Speaker 1: on my face, like I got you. I got you anyways, 470 00:20:08,680 --> 00:20:11,440 Speaker 1: And here I am talking about to Boenis beating the Russians. 471 00:20:11,800 --> 00:20:14,240 Speaker 2: Is that not enough for you people? Anyways? 472 00:20:14,359 --> 00:20:18,720 Speaker 1: I but I want a motage of Bownick's training and 473 00:20:18,800 --> 00:20:21,800 Speaker 1: getting stronger for the twenty twenty six season. 474 00:20:21,920 --> 00:20:24,280 Speaker 2: That's that's what we need now in our lives. Well, 475 00:20:24,280 --> 00:20:25,800 Speaker 2: he did say he was going to take some time off, 476 00:20:26,680 --> 00:20:28,840 Speaker 2: as he would have anyway, and so he said, well, 477 00:20:28,880 --> 00:20:30,920 Speaker 2: he's going to be ready to go around the same 478 00:20:30,920 --> 00:20:34,040 Speaker 2: time he would have started training anyway. So you know, 479 00:20:34,520 --> 00:20:36,880 Speaker 2: I think he said six to eight weeks. So we're 480 00:20:36,920 --> 00:20:40,600 Speaker 2: at what three now, so three or four, So he's 481 00:20:40,600 --> 00:20:42,400 Speaker 2: got a couple more weeks of R and R. Maybe 482 00:20:42,400 --> 00:20:44,359 Speaker 2: he's doing some reading, man, maybe he's doing some thinking. 483 00:20:44,560 --> 00:20:47,960 Speaker 2: Maybe he's just sitting alone, meditating in a dark room 484 00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:51,000 Speaker 2: or bright room whatever, but just thinking, you know, and 485 00:20:51,320 --> 00:20:53,320 Speaker 2: you're a lot of meditating light rooms. 486 00:20:53,440 --> 00:20:56,400 Speaker 1: Close your eyes, man, it's the light though, you get 487 00:20:56,440 --> 00:20:58,199 Speaker 1: into the You don't need to have some sort of 488 00:20:59,520 --> 00:21:01,399 Speaker 1: idea environment to meditate. 489 00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:04,159 Speaker 2: You can meditate anywhere. You can meditate in traffic for 490 00:21:04,240 --> 00:21:06,560 Speaker 2: a moment. You know. It's about a breath. 491 00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:09,760 Speaker 1: It's about hopefully not while you're driving, thinking about the 492 00:21:09,800 --> 00:21:10,639 Speaker 1: action of breathing. 493 00:21:10,680 --> 00:21:11,919 Speaker 2: That's kind of what meditating is. 494 00:21:11,920 --> 00:21:13,920 Speaker 1: It's to take your mind off all the stupid stuff 495 00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:15,080 Speaker 1: you worry about all the time. 496 00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:17,480 Speaker 2: It goes in a loop. What if this or what 497 00:21:17,520 --> 00:21:19,520 Speaker 2: if that? I got to do this? Well, meditation is 498 00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:20,439 Speaker 2: supposed to take you out. 499 00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:23,480 Speaker 1: Of that by focusing on an action of your body, 500 00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:24,280 Speaker 1: just the breathing. 501 00:21:24,359 --> 00:21:25,880 Speaker 2: Explains why I suck at meditation. 502 00:21:26,119 --> 00:21:32,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, like yeah, yeah, everyone knows that communists are very 503 00:21:32,119 --> 00:21:35,280 Speaker 1: bad admitted communists gods, sikes. 504 00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:38,560 Speaker 2: Anyways, it's good to see you. I'm glad you're here. 505 00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:40,159 Speaker 1: We have a lot to get to when we come 506 00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:43,080 Speaker 1: back to the NFLPA. 507 00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:46,240 Speaker 2: I love the report card thing. Did you see this? 508 00:21:46,440 --> 00:21:46,840 Speaker 2: I didn't. 509 00:21:47,080 --> 00:21:51,880 Speaker 1: The NFL has killed the NFLPA report card stuff. Did 510 00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:56,200 Speaker 1: they Yes? Oh, I know it's a heartbreaker for everybody. 511 00:21:56,400 --> 00:21:58,800 Speaker 1: How did they have the jurisdiction to do that. I'll explain, 512 00:21:58,920 --> 00:22:06,199 Speaker 1: We'll do that coming up next. I'm just gonna let 513 00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:08,399 Speaker 1: you know the text line. There are several people a 514 00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:11,280 Speaker 1: time like no, Nate Cameron, Terry Bradshaw. I didn't know 515 00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:14,000 Speaker 1: Terry Bradshaw was that popular here, but there are apparently 516 00:22:14,040 --> 00:22:18,560 Speaker 1: some Terry Bradshaw, like the fans for Super Bowls. Can't 517 00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:22,040 Speaker 1: knock him for that, you know, he just he kind 518 00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:24,919 Speaker 1: of looked like like your neighbor Bob Man in the 519 00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:26,680 Speaker 1: spanshu let the barbecue could. 520 00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:29,240 Speaker 2: Just sling it. You know, what do you got against 521 00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:30,080 Speaker 2: Bob Man? Nothing? 522 00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:33,280 Speaker 1: You know? You know, yeah, oh he would have made it, 523 00:22:33,320 --> 00:22:35,800 Speaker 1: but he blew out his knee in high school exactly right, 524 00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:39,560 Speaker 1: So cut Bob some slacks rolled over those mountains, and 525 00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:41,280 Speaker 1: I don't know if it was like the you know, 526 00:22:41,359 --> 00:22:42,800 Speaker 1: the bald head and the kind of the way it 527 00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:45,120 Speaker 1: was back then. It's they didn't give a crap. They're 528 00:22:45,119 --> 00:22:48,000 Speaker 1: like smoking cigarettes at halftime like, you know, stuff like that, 529 00:22:48,040 --> 00:22:51,880 Speaker 1: winning championships, working at sears in the offseason, selling tires 530 00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:53,880 Speaker 1: and stuff. I mean, so it was a different era 531 00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:57,400 Speaker 1: of football, and I think when people think about quarterback position, 532 00:22:57,520 --> 00:22:59,880 Speaker 1: they think of the field general, the guy who's got 533 00:22:59,880 --> 00:23:02,280 Speaker 1: it all covered. It could do all these different things, 534 00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:06,200 Speaker 1: and I don't think right or wrong. Terry Bradshaw gets 535 00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:07,440 Speaker 1: that same sort of treatment. 536 00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:09,040 Speaker 2: How much you want to make a bet I can 537 00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:10,600 Speaker 2: throw a football over the mountains? 538 00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:14,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, Bob, I got your back, Bob flipping burgers now, 539 00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:18,439 Speaker 1: But he was he was quite the stud there as 540 00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:19,040 Speaker 1: a younger man. 541 00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:20,280 Speaker 2: So Terry was a stud. 542 00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:23,119 Speaker 1: I'm just saying, can you put him in the Joe Montana, 543 00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:26,560 Speaker 1: John Elway probably Tom Brady conversation? 544 00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:29,720 Speaker 2: Championships is still you know, yeah the thing. Yeah. 545 00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:32,480 Speaker 1: A couple of texts here on the KWA commsprail text 546 00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:36,280 Speaker 1: line Nate Jackson, Ryan Edwards, Ryan, it's not about economics systems, 547 00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:38,920 Speaker 1: it's about you hating top Gun. I think top Gun's overrated. 548 00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:42,440 Speaker 1: Profit It's not that I hate it's the original one. Yeah, overrated. 549 00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:44,320 Speaker 1: It just doesn't like hold up. 550 00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:50,679 Speaker 2: So you're not into like America, like camaraderie and pushing 551 00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:52,879 Speaker 2: yourself to limit and like getting the girl and like 552 00:23:53,119 --> 00:23:57,280 Speaker 2: having a really amazing like kind of climactic moment in 553 00:23:57,440 --> 00:23:58,359 Speaker 2: a lot of different ways. 554 00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:03,600 Speaker 1: Do you want to finish that thoughttery I did I 555 00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:07,639 Speaker 1: finish yeah, climactic moment. No, No, I I think that 556 00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:12,200 Speaker 1: top Tom Cruise singing off key in a bar, guys 557 00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:17,720 Speaker 1: playing shirtless with their jeans on. Uh, very homo erotic, 558 00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:21,280 Speaker 1: kind of like beaty volleyball scene, Like I just don't listen. 559 00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:23,200 Speaker 2: It's a drop for me, it could be for people 560 00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:25,520 Speaker 2: like you. I'm fine with it. It's only no, there's 561 00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:26,879 Speaker 2: very little plots in that movie. 562 00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:29,840 Speaker 1: It's only as homo erotic as the guy watching it. 563 00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:32,480 Speaker 2: Is that true? I guess. Don't clap with that, Grant, 564 00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:33,719 Speaker 2: don't clap with that. 565 00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:37,159 Speaker 1: Dudes with their shirts off make you think certain things. 566 00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:40,560 Speaker 2: I don't know if that's their fault. They're playing volleyball. 567 00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:43,040 Speaker 2: You can you want to take the jeans off? No, 568 00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:48,200 Speaker 2: I oiled up. They were sweating that it was hot. 569 00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:54,280 Speaker 2: They're oiled up wearing jeans. Don't don't try to gaslight me. 570 00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:58,440 Speaker 2: You know what you saw. I know what I saw. 571 00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:02,000 Speaker 1: There's just very I thought, a very competitive game of 572 00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:05,320 Speaker 1: two on two volleyball, during which they did a really 573 00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:09,040 Speaker 1: cool handshake. You know that one I did see that, 574 00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:10,879 Speaker 1: And if you didn't do that with your friends on 575 00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:14,880 Speaker 1: your street, I did that, then clearly you're. 576 00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:16,679 Speaker 2: Not an American. Can we get some more? 577 00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:18,840 Speaker 1: Nate Jackson to Sean Payton, Yeah, we gotta find We 578 00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:21,159 Speaker 1: got to find a I've started to think that with 579 00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:23,960 Speaker 1: the you doing the Sean Payton impression, we gotta find 580 00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:26,240 Speaker 1: things for you to do. We can't just have you 581 00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:28,520 Speaker 1: talk like Sean because you can do that anytime. I 582 00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:31,520 Speaker 1: gotta challenge you on this, So we gotta find Hey, 583 00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:33,720 Speaker 1: what would Sean Payton say about X y Z? 584 00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:34,359 Speaker 2: Yeah? 585 00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:37,160 Speaker 1: You know so, so coming up, I'll try to figure 586 00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:38,919 Speaker 1: out something to do to challenge. It's like when we 587 00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:42,320 Speaker 1: had Frank Calliando last week. I gave Frank cally into 588 00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:45,639 Speaker 1: a challenge ah Man, I said, I need John Madden 589 00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:48,359 Speaker 1: and John Gruden to give me a preview of the 590 00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:48,920 Speaker 1: super Bowl. 591 00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:50,240 Speaker 2: So he went back and forth. 592 00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:54,120 Speaker 1: Wow, as the two characters, he's the best, incredible, incredible 593 00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:56,560 Speaker 1: and honestly you're Sean Payton's rivals. 594 00:25:57,480 --> 00:25:58,439 Speaker 2: Hey, some of his stuff. 595 00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:06,920 Speaker 3: Listen, it's when ye So for for a guy who 596 00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:13,440 Speaker 3: looks spent a year in in media at Fox, there's 597 00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:16,520 Speaker 3: a lot of there's a lot of fits and starts. 598 00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:19,200 Speaker 2: You gotta. 599 00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:27,080 Speaker 1: Look it really is like so there's no, no, no, no, no, no, 600 00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:28,880 Speaker 1: no, no no. You know, he starts, he's trying to start 601 00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:31,840 Speaker 1: the motor. Yeah, and he sees a bunch of roads 602 00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:34,480 Speaker 1: in front of him, and he can't decide which road 603 00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:36,800 Speaker 1: to go down, and he starts going down one road 604 00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:42,399 Speaker 1: and nope, well over here. And eventually he gives you 605 00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:46,640 Speaker 1: the information that you asked for, but not with complete sentences. 606 00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:49,639 Speaker 2: You can't spit it out. You gotta swallow it. And 607 00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:53,080 Speaker 2: then there's a there's a there's a pershing of the lips. 608 00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:57,840 Speaker 2: It's similar to Peyton Manning common spirit. Common spirit. You 609 00:26:57,880 --> 00:26:59,920 Speaker 2: don't say s is, you say s hs. 610 00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:05,560 Speaker 1: It's a lot of sh It's a lot of sh Yeah, yeah, yeah, 611 00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:09,760 Speaker 1: gotta swallow it. So let me ask you about this 612 00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:14,080 Speaker 1: the story today. So the NFL won a grievance against 613 00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:17,879 Speaker 1: the NFLPA today, effectively banning the union from conducting and 614 00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:22,320 Speaker 1: publishing future player report cards and distributing it. 615 00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:24,160 Speaker 2: Now they're going to continue to do the report cards. 616 00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:25,639 Speaker 1: I don't know if you remember seeing these of the 617 00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:27,719 Speaker 1: last several years, and they usually come around the time 618 00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:28,199 Speaker 1: of the combine. 619 00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:30,320 Speaker 2: So the timing's fascinating cause in like two. 620 00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:34,720 Speaker 1: Weeks from today, actually two weeks from maybe Tuesday or Wednesday, 621 00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:39,080 Speaker 1: we would have gotten the NFLPA report cards. They're always 622 00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:43,360 Speaker 1: very interesting. Now, it doesn't surprise anybody to find out 623 00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:45,639 Speaker 1: that Woody Johnson, the owner of the New York Jets, 624 00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:47,840 Speaker 1: who has gotten an f every single year this thing 625 00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:50,840 Speaker 1: has come out, is the one that was spearheading this 626 00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:54,720 Speaker 1: grievance that they eventually were able to block the NFLPA 627 00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:56,159 Speaker 1: from putting it out, and they're going to continue to 628 00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:58,800 Speaker 1: do the report cards. That's private, it will no longer 629 00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:01,240 Speaker 1: be public. If someone going to lead kid, well, that's 630 00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:03,680 Speaker 1: what I hope. Yeah, I really hope so, because I 631 00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:05,679 Speaker 1: think it's very valuable. I mean, you, as as a 632 00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:08,720 Speaker 1: guy that played for a couple of different different organizations, 633 00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:12,600 Speaker 1: you can appreciate the working conditions and what it does 634 00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:14,560 Speaker 1: to help you guys not only perform well in the field, 635 00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:16,600 Speaker 1: but also feel like you're part of an organization that 636 00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:18,120 Speaker 1: matters and cares about things. 637 00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:19,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, there's a lot to this. 638 00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:23,359 Speaker 1: The Chiefs getting bad marks every year, but we're one 639 00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:24,800 Speaker 1: of the best teams in the league every year. So 640 00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:28,440 Speaker 1: obviously it doesn't always correlate best facilities, best team on. 641 00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:30,720 Speaker 2: The field, not always. In fact, you know you mentioned 642 00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:35,680 Speaker 2: Rocky earlier. I remember mister t training in the basement 643 00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:39,560 Speaker 2: Rocky three, I think, right, yeah, while Rocky himself was 644 00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:42,800 Speaker 2: you know, out there boxing robots and doing all this 645 00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:44,959 Speaker 2: high tech stuff, got his butt kicked, right, And then 646 00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:47,960 Speaker 2: the next one when he fought Evandrago, Evan Drago's doing 647 00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:49,920 Speaker 2: all the high tech stuff, but he's in the basement 648 00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:54,680 Speaker 2: doing pull ups on a pipe. It's leaking on him 649 00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:57,320 Speaker 2: and he ends up winning. So what do the Jets suck? 650 00:28:57,400 --> 00:28:58,240 Speaker 2: Every year of the. 651 00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:03,120 Speaker 1: Chiefs succeed And it doesn't always correlate, okay, but it 652 00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:06,080 Speaker 1: just shows how one more way that the nfl PA 653 00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:11,440 Speaker 1: is the NFL's little you know what. They cannot stand 654 00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:16,160 Speaker 1: up to them, they cannot do. Look at the players 655 00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:18,800 Speaker 1: union gets steamrolled every time there's a negotiation. The NFL 656 00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:21,360 Speaker 1: is the juggernaut. The nfl PA tries to do little 657 00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:24,360 Speaker 1: things like this to exert some sort of force or 658 00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:26,960 Speaker 1: influence in the conversation, and they. 659 00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:28,440 Speaker 2: Can't hold to it. For whatever reason. 660 00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:31,480 Speaker 1: You know, the lawyers are stronger, the lobby whatever it 661 00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:31,920 Speaker 1: might be. 662 00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:33,600 Speaker 2: With the with the league itself. 663 00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:37,760 Speaker 1: You know, this is when a team gets bad marks, 664 00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:38,880 Speaker 1: it looks bad at the on. 665 00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:40,880 Speaker 2: The team and. 666 00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:44,320 Speaker 1: Without seeing in front of me the different criteria that 667 00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:49,120 Speaker 1: they that they're judged on. But this can really, you know, 668 00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:51,040 Speaker 1: make a make a team look very bad. I mean, 669 00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:55,959 Speaker 1: the coaching staff right, the way they treat family at games, 670 00:29:56,400 --> 00:30:00,440 Speaker 1: the practice facilities that the you know, trave facilities, all that. 671 00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:04,560 Speaker 1: There's a lot of elements to be in a successful 672 00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:06,280 Speaker 1: team and to getting all those ducks in a row 673 00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:06,800 Speaker 1: right there. 674 00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:08,800 Speaker 2: So I think NFL teams don't. 675 00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:10,920 Speaker 1: Like that publicized because maybe they're working on it, you know, 676 00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:12,640 Speaker 1: maybe they're or maybe they don't want to work on it. 677 00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:14,280 Speaker 2: Maybe they don't want to work on it. 678 00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:18,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, but the public seeing it adds pressure because then 679 00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:21,360 Speaker 1: questions are getting asked. Well, I mean, do you what 680 00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:23,560 Speaker 1: kind of pressure like you know, there's there's the week 681 00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:25,560 Speaker 1: it comes out, well, what is the what do the 682 00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:29,520 Speaker 1: fans really do to put pressure on an organization to 683 00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:30,640 Speaker 1: improve the practice facility? 684 00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:31,760 Speaker 2: Well, wouldn't be the fans so much? 685 00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:36,160 Speaker 1: Is maybe some media continue to press on organizations like, hey, 686 00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:38,440 Speaker 1: you guys keep failing at these things. You need to 687 00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:40,840 Speaker 1: do anything about it, and they can continue to hold 688 00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:43,120 Speaker 1: that up even with the players like, oh, so so 689 00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:45,840 Speaker 1: we got the report card that this place is a terror, 690 00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:46,640 Speaker 1: it's terrible for. 691 00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:47,240 Speaker 2: This, this and this. 692 00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:50,800 Speaker 1: So what what is ownership now doing about that? Which 693 00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:54,440 Speaker 1: again it sort of filters up. So what grounds were 694 00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:57,560 Speaker 1: they able to get this thing dismissed or whatever or 695 00:30:57,880 --> 00:31:00,360 Speaker 1: to just find the NFL filed a grievance and court 696 00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:03,400 Speaker 1: and what the NFLPA didn't fight for it. They did, 697 00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:06,760 Speaker 1: but they were told was grounds. They said that it 698 00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:10,000 Speaker 1: was against the CBA, or it was the CBA didn't 699 00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:13,440 Speaker 1: allow for this to be public information. So they're going 700 00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:15,520 Speaker 1: to continue to do the report cards, like they're still 701 00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:19,840 Speaker 1: asking the players about these facilities and about the teams. 702 00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:22,240 Speaker 1: They're just not going to make a public They said 703 00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:24,640 Speaker 1: that there was a violation of the CBA. Yeah, which 704 00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:27,920 Speaker 1: again under the umbrella of in violation. 705 00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:29,200 Speaker 2: Of the CBA. There's a lot of things that you 706 00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:30,840 Speaker 2: probably could could find. 707 00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:33,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a it's a pretty big document, right, I'll 708 00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:35,680 Speaker 1: say that. You know, there's a lot of elements that 709 00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:38,880 Speaker 1: go into your satisfaction at work when it comes to 710 00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:43,360 Speaker 1: being a professional athlete. You know, the way you're the 711 00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:46,600 Speaker 1: facilities matter, They're not the only thing that matters, you know, 712 00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:49,040 Speaker 1: the way your family is treated on gaming that matters, 713 00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:49,800 Speaker 1: The travel, it matters. 714 00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:50,840 Speaker 2: It's all kind of cumulative. 715 00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:52,880 Speaker 1: I mean, it can't all be perfect, you know, and 716 00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:54,200 Speaker 1: nobody has it all down. 717 00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:58,840 Speaker 2: But but the Broncos are making those moves and this 718 00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:02,600 Speaker 2: ownership group is doing things the right way and they're 719 00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:04,480 Speaker 2: you know, they're getting good marks for good reason, and 720 00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:06,920 Speaker 2: so they're not one of the ownership groups that's pushing 721 00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:08,040 Speaker 2: to have this thing suppressed. 722 00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:15,280 Speaker 1: Five six six nine zero our ka commas Fredell text 723 00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:17,880 Speaker 1: sign somebody on here asking about how the town hall 724 00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:20,680 Speaker 1: meeting at Burnham Yard with yesterday. Well, we're gonna have 725 00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:23,240 Speaker 1: romy Bean joining us at four thirty with her thoughts 726 00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:25,040 Speaker 1: on it. She was out there getting a chance to 727 00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:27,959 Speaker 1: hear from Demani Leitch. So we'll get a sense of 728 00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:31,000 Speaker 1: how the community is feeling about things right now as 729 00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:32,840 Speaker 1: we go forward. And it looks like they're going to 730 00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:35,320 Speaker 1: be aiming for a twenty twenty seven start to this 731 00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:38,200 Speaker 1: whole thing ending in twenty thirty one, ready for the 732 00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:39,240 Speaker 1: new stadium. 733 00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:44,320 Speaker 2: It's wild man, pretty exciting stuff. It's pretty exciting again. 734 00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:49,080 Speaker 1: You know, this is a good stadium we have now 735 00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:51,880 Speaker 1: and and I think they polled all the fans and 736 00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:54,720 Speaker 1: all the in this is the number one stadium experience 737 00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:55,320 Speaker 1: in the league. 738 00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:58,080 Speaker 2: We're getting rid of it, you know. So I have 739 00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:00,800 Speaker 2: mixed emotions about that. Of course, there's a been nostalgia 740 00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:03,400 Speaker 2: for me because I played there. What if in the 741 00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:05,680 Speaker 2: new stadium. 742 00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:08,320 Speaker 1: They have a designated section for people that like to 743 00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:12,640 Speaker 1: report on uniforms. Oh they will, okay, And if I 744 00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:14,640 Speaker 1: keep this post for the next five six years, I'll 745 00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:18,160 Speaker 1: be doing that, yeah, out there. But I'm just saying, man, 746 00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:19,960 Speaker 1: you gotta be careful what you wish for when you 747 00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:22,160 Speaker 1: want the grand, new shiny thing, okay, because you got 748 00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:23,600 Speaker 1: to say goodbye to a lot of the comforts of 749 00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:24,000 Speaker 1: the old. 750 00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:24,440 Speaker 2: Okay. 751 00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:27,720 Speaker 1: And the tickets are gonna go out by like three 752 00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:29,880 Speaker 1: x a little bit, yeah, yeah, yeah, a little bit. 753 00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:33,240 Speaker 1: There's not gonna be any tailgating. There's not gonna be 754 00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:34,560 Speaker 1: any parking lots to tailgating. 755 00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:39,080 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, I just see like it. Yeah, So it's 756 00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:41,320 Speaker 2: gonna be a different experience, man, Okay, And we'll see 757 00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:44,320 Speaker 2: what kind of fans filter over a mile down the road. 758 00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:47,600 Speaker 1: You sound skeptical. I don't like the new stadium thing. 759 00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:48,640 Speaker 1: Do you like new things? 760 00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:52,480 Speaker 2: Ever? No? I like so new socks. I do like 761 00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:54,240 Speaker 2: new socks. I mean, come on, you want to wear 762 00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:55,520 Speaker 2: new socks? What what kind of socks? 763 00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:58,360 Speaker 1: It looks like? New sock? Like, what's your favorite new sock. 764 00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:01,160 Speaker 1: I'm a woolsock guy. I love wolf sock. I'm not 765 00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:03,080 Speaker 1: a big wolf socker. I'm an athlete, man, I'm not 766 00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:05,280 Speaker 1: wearing wolf socks. I'm not going on a camping trip. 767 00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:08,319 Speaker 2: I'm going to I'm going to work or I'm going 768 00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:09,319 Speaker 2: to work out. 769 00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:12,000 Speaker 1: Heng on, Hey, hang on, you're at like like you're 770 00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:14,200 Speaker 1: gonna break out into a forty right now. Like, no, 771 00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:17,640 Speaker 1: you can just be comfortable. Athletes don't wear woolf socks 772 00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:21,080 Speaker 1: on every day sort of outings. Why because you're about 773 00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:22,919 Speaker 1: to like go into a pickup game or something. 774 00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:24,480 Speaker 2: Because they want comfortable feet. 775 00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:25,680 Speaker 1: You never know where you're gonna have to hit the 776 00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:28,239 Speaker 1: road and and go run and do something cool man 777 00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:30,799 Speaker 1: like forest gum or something like I'm just gonna walk 778 00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:31,400 Speaker 1: out my doors. 779 00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:34,160 Speaker 2: Are you wearing wolf socks right now? I absolutely am. 780 00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:36,280 Speaker 2: I bet you are. They're very comfortable. 781 00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:39,680 Speaker 1: Makes me very happy, I bet you a very small 782 00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:43,040 Speaker 1: percentage of the people listening right now are wearing wolf socks. 783 00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:46,160 Speaker 1: They should be, though, No they shouldn't. Why not because 784 00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:49,480 Speaker 1: they're not comfortable. They're extree if you're down in the cold. 785 00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:55,040 Speaker 2: It's just a normal day, man, Very good Nike socks. 786 00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:57,440 Speaker 1: Put on your comfortable shoes and get out there and 787 00:34:57,520 --> 00:34:58,160 Speaker 1: kick some butt. 788 00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:06,120 Speaker 2: Well socks. Yeah, it made me underwear on too. No, wow, No, 789 00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:06,879 Speaker 2: that would be weird. 790 00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:08,880 Speaker 1: No, wol socks, and my wife bought these for me. 791 00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:11,480 Speaker 1: They're very nice and it makes me happy to put 792 00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:13,439 Speaker 1: them all on every single day. Thank you very much. 793 00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:17,600 Speaker 1: I'm glad you asked, but I highly recommend him. I'm 794 00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:21,200 Speaker 1: just telling you like it. What improves your disposition to 795 00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:23,360 Speaker 1: put on socks that are comfortable, That's all I'm saying. 796 00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:27,360 Speaker 1: The shoes I wear don't feel good with wolf socks 797 00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:30,600 Speaker 1: in them, Then the shoes feel tight because the wolf 798 00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:36,480 Speaker 1: socks are thicker. Okay, well you're missing out, but that's 799 00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:40,000 Speaker 1: okay because you just discovered flannel and you seem happier 800 00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:41,799 Speaker 1: in that now too. So I think by the end 801 00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:45,960 Speaker 1: of this thing, I might be able to fully dress you, 802 00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:48,359 Speaker 1: convince you of all the things that you're missing out on. 803 00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:51,520 Speaker 1: I had actually, prior to doing shows with you, I 804 00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:54,480 Speaker 1: had never even heard of a flannel. Seriously, I had 805 00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:55,920 Speaker 1: never even heard of it. I was like, what is 806 00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:59,120 Speaker 1: that on your body? And you're like, it's a flannel? 807 00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:00,560 Speaker 1: I said, what is that? Is that? 808 00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:04,080 Speaker 2: Like a wool sock but a shirt? You? Sorry? I 809 00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:06,680 Speaker 2: never even heard of I hadn't. Man, how old were 810 00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:09,879 Speaker 2: you forty six? Forty six years old? I've never heard 811 00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:12,719 Speaker 2: of them, never, never from California. They don't have to land. 812 00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:13,360 Speaker 2: Don't let him know. 813 00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:15,640 Speaker 1: I would believe that's all right, We'll we come back. 814 00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:19,320 Speaker 1: How close was Drew Brees to coming out of retirement? 815 00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:22,319 Speaker 1: And was it for the Broncos. We're gonna hear from 816 00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:22,719 Speaker 1: him next