WEBVTT - Daniel Davis Deep Dive

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<v Speaker 1>It's that time of the week where we get the

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<v Speaker 1>alliterative Daniel Davis deep dive. Retired Lieutenant Colonel Daniel Davis

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<v Speaker 1>offering up all his knowledge and wisdom and tapping into

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<v Speaker 1>his resources to give us updates about the various wars

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<v Speaker 1>going on in the world. Welcome back, my friend, Daniel Davis.

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<v Speaker 1>It's always good to have you on the program.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's always good to be here, Brian. Thanks for

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<v Speaker 2>having me back.

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<v Speaker 1>And forgive me a little bit for not being as

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<v Speaker 1>up-to-date on the conflicts, the various conflicts. Really been focusing

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<v Speaker 1>a lot on the upcoming election. We've got a hell

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<v Speaker 1>of a battle going on here in the state of Ohio,

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<v Speaker 1>so it's been dominating the morning show news. But I

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<v Speaker 1>know it's still going on over there, and the challenges

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<v Speaker 1>seem to be getting a little bit bigger. One of

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<v Speaker 1>the developments which... I thought was interesting. Uh, Egypt is

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<v Speaker 1>now decided to, has decided to send troops into Saudi

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<v Speaker 1>Arabia to defend against the Houthi rebel attacks that have

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<v Speaker 1>been going on for some time now. And I think

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<v Speaker 1>talking to you, the Houthis are a substantial military presence.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm hundreds of thousands of Houthis that are, that are

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<v Speaker 1>waging this kind of this war against Saudi and, and, and,

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<v Speaker 1>and they're doing it primarily because we have a presence

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<v Speaker 1>in Saudi Arabia is, is that correct?

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<v Speaker 2>Uh, Partially. It's not really about us, actually. There are

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<v Speaker 2>definitely hundreds of thousands, and apparently they're mobilizing more. It

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<v Speaker 2>could be north of half a million here shortly, if

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<v Speaker 2>it's not already. This is an issue that goes back

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<v Speaker 2>for many, many years, and actually decades, between Ansar Allah,

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<v Speaker 2>the Houthis, and Saudi Arabia. And it was sparked when

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<v Speaker 2>Saudi Arabia attacked the airport at Sana'a last August, when

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<v Speaker 2>the Supreme Leader's funeral was going on, and they were

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<v Speaker 2>sending a delegation there. that sparked, re-sparked, because they had

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<v Speaker 2>been in a ceasefire since 2022, and now it's come

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<v Speaker 2>back into a hot phase. You mentioned about Egypt. We'll

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<v Speaker 2>see what actually comes about from that, how many troops

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<v Speaker 2>and what kind of troops. That's kind of important because

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<v Speaker 2>Egypt itself has some bad experience in the past with

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<v Speaker 2>the Houthis in Yemen. So I doubt that they're going

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<v Speaker 2>to sign up to be putting a lot of combat power.

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<v Speaker 2>But I don't think that all of Saudi Arabia's allies

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<v Speaker 2>together have enough ground forces to be able to stop

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<v Speaker 2>Ansar Allah on the ground. And Ansar Allah may take

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<v Speaker 2>even three Saudi provinces on the southwest corner of Saudi

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<v Speaker 2>Arabia because they're at real risk right now.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, which sort of brings to mind Russia going into

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<v Speaker 1>the Ukraine and taking over a chunk of Ukraine. Are

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<v Speaker 1>we going to be doing this now? Is this what

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<v Speaker 1>we should expect in the future? Because that's a real

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<v Speaker 1>new development, Daniel Davis.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know, there was, I mean, I would say

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<v Speaker 2>just think about last year, last May, when President Trump

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<v Speaker 2>went to Saudi Arabia and on this whole Middle East tour. And, man,

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<v Speaker 2>it looked like the whole Gulf Arab countries and the

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<v Speaker 2>whole Emirates were all this strength, the bastion of strength

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<v Speaker 2>and economic power and oil and all that. Right. And

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<v Speaker 2>all these deals that were going to be done. And

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<v Speaker 2>now then just barely a year, a little over a

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<v Speaker 2>year later, the whole place is on fire and potentially

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<v Speaker 2>falling apart in Saudi Arabia itself. is genuinely at risk

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<v Speaker 2>of a dissolution, both from fracturing inside and then from

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<v Speaker 2>the external pressure of the Houthis. So it's just hard

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<v Speaker 2>to believe how much change is coming. So at least

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<v Speaker 2>right now, yeah, there are some real problems, and you

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<v Speaker 2>could add Iraq to that if you wanted to.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, go ahead and add Iraq to that now. How

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<v Speaker 1>do they factor into this equation?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so the United States finally completed its final withdrawal,

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<v Speaker 2>so that took a lot of the pressure off. off

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<v Speaker 2>of the Iraqi government, but it also opened up some space.

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<v Speaker 2>And by the way, I'm definitely for the withdrawal, and

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<v Speaker 2>I applaud President Trump for doing so, because all it

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<v Speaker 2>did is make it more difficult, not even impossible, for

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<v Speaker 2>the Iran-backed militia, which are part of the official Iraqi

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<v Speaker 2>security forces. They may actually take action against Saudi Arabia, too.

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<v Speaker 2>And you may recall before we left, the U.S. and

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<v Speaker 2>Saudi Arabia together attacked forces inside of Iraq, which just

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<v Speaker 2>kind of stirred that pot up, in my personal opinion.

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<v Speaker 2>So now there are three separate directions that Saudi Arabia

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<v Speaker 2>is at risk from, Iran, Iraq, and Yemen.

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<v Speaker 1>Where are we relative to our military strategy just with Iran?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, ignoring the chaos that's unfolding all around the area, I, again,

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<v Speaker 1>keep hearing these– suggestions or veiled or otherwise or out loud,

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<v Speaker 1>overt suggestions that the kinetic activity, the bombing is going

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<v Speaker 1>to start and that really don't know when these threats

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<v Speaker 1>keep coming from Donald Trump. But we always you and

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<v Speaker 1>I always go back to the practical reality. It sounds

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<v Speaker 1>great to the rabid mob out there that just wants

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<v Speaker 1>to roll over Iran as if it would be an

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<v Speaker 1>easy thing. It's not. It never has become easier. We

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<v Speaker 1>still have, you know, a country that's two and a

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<v Speaker 1>half times the size of Texas. We have limited arms

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<v Speaker 1>that we can use. They have a seemingly unlimited number

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<v Speaker 1>of drones and missiles they can rely on. It's just

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<v Speaker 1>day after day status quo and week after week, as

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<v Speaker 1>far as you and I are concerned, or rather year

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<v Speaker 1>after year we're getting on. Daniel, has anything changed at all?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know, there are really contradictory signals coming not

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<v Speaker 2>just out of the White House, but out of President

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<v Speaker 2>Trump himself, because on the one hand, he, I think

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<v Speaker 2>on Sunday, made a pretty strong statement that, you know, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>they're either going to make a deal or we're going

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<v Speaker 2>to go in and finish the job, etc., But then

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<v Speaker 2>he also said, I think the day before, he said,

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<v Speaker 2>or maybe we could just do nothing. You just let

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<v Speaker 2>them wither on the vine and just let this go

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<v Speaker 2>indefinitely until they eventually just starve out or the economy

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<v Speaker 2>finally collapses because of our Operation Economic Fury or whatever

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<v Speaker 2>they're calling it today. So we don't really know. I

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<v Speaker 2>can tell you, though. For anyone who thinks that, no,

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<v Speaker 2>go finish the job, then you have to explain how,

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<v Speaker 2>if you're going to have the same weapons, the same missiles,

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<v Speaker 2>the same rockets going against the same targets on these

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<v Speaker 2>mountains and underneath these mountains that didn't work in two

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<v Speaker 2>kinetic rounds already, and actually three if you go back

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<v Speaker 2>to 2025, then you have to say, why would you

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<v Speaker 2>want to go back again and expect a different outcome?

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<v Speaker 1>Because here's the key thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Whereas we don't have any new targets to go after

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<v Speaker 2>of military significance, meaning where the missiles and drones are located,

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<v Speaker 2>Iran does have additional targets it has not attacked from

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<v Speaker 2>our side, which are very much out in the open

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<v Speaker 2>and vulnerable, like economic targets, energy targets, desalination plants, etc.

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<v Speaker 2>All are indefensible from us. So we don't want to

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<v Speaker 2>go down this path because we can't knock them out

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<v Speaker 2>and we can suffer a lot more harm.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, and that brought to mind these easy-to-hit military targets

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<v Speaker 1>or United States-affiliated targets. That could be anywhere in the

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<v Speaker 1>United States, too. And I saw the Pentagon... released this

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<v Speaker 1>doomsday scenario, this fortress, unprecedented planned branded fortress, which is

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<v Speaker 1>hardening our military bases so they can be self-sufficient, have

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<v Speaker 1>their own energy, their own stockpiles. In other words, be

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<v Speaker 1>able to live off a grid that they expect is

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<v Speaker 1>going to be taken out by the Chinese Communist Party

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<v Speaker 1>or some foreign actor who's hacked into our systems. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>we are open targets. The oceans of the world don't

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<v Speaker 1>protect us like they used to anymore, Daniel Davis. Do

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<v Speaker 1>you have any concerns along those lines? This could expand,

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<v Speaker 1>the Iranians would look beyond the region and start targeting

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<v Speaker 1>American interests literally anywhere they happen to be?

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<v Speaker 2>I'll tell you why that worries me. Not because of Iran.

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<v Speaker 2>Iran doesn't have the capacity to do that. There are

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<v Speaker 2>only two states on the planet that have the capacity

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<v Speaker 2>to prompt that kind of protection on American bases throughout

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<v Speaker 2>the continental United States, and that is Russia and China.

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<v Speaker 2>And the fact that they're talking about doing this right

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<v Speaker 2>now makes me worry. Do they know something that we

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<v Speaker 2>don't know yet? Because to The level of protection and

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<v Speaker 2>expansion of the infrastructure and to be able to sustain

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<v Speaker 2>for 90 days on.

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<v Speaker 2>Not just get a cyber attack somewhere. We've got a

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<v Speaker 2>pretty good system against those, obviously. And for Iran itself,

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<v Speaker 2>they wouldn't do that because, number one, they don't have

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<v Speaker 2>the capacity. And all they're interested in is to get

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<v Speaker 2>the United States out of the Middle East. And to

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<v Speaker 2>do that at the lowest cost, striking the continental United

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<v Speaker 2>States they know would almost certainly prompt a nuclear weapon.

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<v Speaker 2>So they're not going to do that. It's not in

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<v Speaker 2>their interest. You don't have to trust them or anything else.

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<v Speaker 2>But if we're getting ready like that, I'm worried about

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<v Speaker 2>the two nations that can do something and do have

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<v Speaker 2>the capacity. And I just don't know if they know

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<v Speaker 2>something we don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, the timing was rather suspicious because the British Defense Secretary,

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<v Speaker 1>Wes Streeting, said his country needs to be ready within

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<v Speaker 1>1,000 days and advised citizens to stock up on essential supplies.

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<v Speaker 1>because of these same kind of veiled threats. Now, he

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<v Speaker 1>did specifically say Russia, which is one of the reasons

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<v Speaker 1>why I bring this up. The timing with the warning

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<v Speaker 1>here in the United States is a concern, and they're

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<v Speaker 1>warning the British population about this. But I think this

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<v Speaker 1>has to be concerning them more beyond Russia, because as

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<v Speaker 1>you and I have talked about, the likelihood of Russia

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<v Speaker 1>launching a war against a NATO country is pretty slim,

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<v Speaker 1>unless your perception of that has changed. So maybe they're

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<v Speaker 1>concerned as well.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, Streeting actually, and I'm going to be showing this

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<v Speaker 2>on my show here in a couple of hours, he

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<v Speaker 2>met with his Polish counterpart, and it was either this

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<v Speaker 2>morning or yesterday, and he did expressly say, we have

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<v Speaker 2>to be ready for war against Russia because they're a

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<v Speaker 2>terrorist state. So he specifically named them, at least in

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<v Speaker 2>this particular iteration here. And Russia is never going to

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<v Speaker 2>attack Europe and NATO unless Europe and NATO continue to

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<v Speaker 2>press attacks into Russia via– So we're playing with fire.

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<v Speaker 2>When we continue to support Ukraine, which can never win

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<v Speaker 2>this war, it's definitely impossible for them to do so.

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<v Speaker 1>But it is.

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<v Speaker 2>Possible for us to expand the war if we keep

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<v Speaker 2>striking long enough and hard enough. And also yesterday, this

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<v Speaker 2>is critically important and possibly related to this development of

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<v Speaker 2>the United States. Karaganov, who was a well-known kind of

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<v Speaker 2>far-right figure in Russia, openly advocated the use of nuclear

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<v Speaker 2>weapons against the West as a means of restoring deterrence.

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<v Speaker 2>And he said, we should not be afraid of using them.

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<v Speaker 2>We could win a war in Europe in three days.

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<v Speaker 1>A nuclear war.

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<v Speaker 2>He thinks they can win it. Now, he's been out

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<v Speaker 2>on the right. The problem is, from some other sources

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<v Speaker 2>I have, his thoughts are more centrist.

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<v Speaker 1>In Russia now.

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<v Speaker 2>And he has a direct line to President Putin. So

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<v Speaker 2>we can never rule out that they may finally get

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<v Speaker 2>tired enough and say, you know what, we're just going

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<v Speaker 2>to have to go. So we should not unnecessarily poke

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<v Speaker 2>the bear if it's not going to help us out.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, and I think most people when they consider attack,

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<v Speaker 1>they think about bombs being dropped, people, you know, forces invading.

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<v Speaker 1>But I would argue, and I think I may be

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<v Speaker 1>on solid ground here, even though I'm just pulling this

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<v Speaker 1>out of my sphincter, you could probably do as much

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<v Speaker 1>damage as a nuclear weapon by just shutting off the

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<v Speaker 1>electric grid. People will die. Chaos will ensue. You can't

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<v Speaker 1>get access to your bank accounts. Grocery stores won't be

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<v Speaker 1>open anymore. I mean, the entire society would come to

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<v Speaker 1>a screeching halt if the energy system were to completely

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<v Speaker 1>go under. That, to me, is a bigger threat than

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<v Speaker 1>even a bomb.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'll tell you, that idea is definitely on the

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<v Speaker 2>minds of many Russian thinkers right now. And they are

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<v Speaker 2>even saying that. They're saying, listen, We don't need to

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<v Speaker 2>have an army to go invade NATO. If that's what

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<v Speaker 2>you guys, if you're forcing one on us, we would

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<v Speaker 2>go with our ballistic missiles. We would go with our arrestings.

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<v Speaker 2>We would go with our hypersonics. And they have openly

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<v Speaker 2>said we would hit your economic centers, your banking centers,

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<v Speaker 2>your electric centers, and your factories to produce long-range drones

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<v Speaker 2>and missiles. I mean, they would go after those specific things.

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<v Speaker 2>And you're right. That would literally just bring our economic

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<v Speaker 2>to a standstill, aside from all the other problems that

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<v Speaker 2>are already out there. Now, Russia is vulnerable, too, but

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<v Speaker 2>that's not helping anybody if we get into a war

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<v Speaker 2>that we can't win and could cause that much damage

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<v Speaker 2>for a country that has no interest or ability to

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<v Speaker 2>invade us. So we need to cool the jets and

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<v Speaker 2>start talking a lot more about diplomacy.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I concur with you on that. And that's about

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<v Speaker 1>as far as we're going to get towards solutions today,

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<v Speaker 1>Daniel Davis. We keep trying. Someday it'll happen. You and

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<v Speaker 1>I'll come up with the answer to everyone's problems and

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<v Speaker 1>We'll just go on.

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<v Speaker 2>We will.

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<v Speaker 1>Find something else to do with our days. Daniel Davis,

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<v Speaker 1>Deep Dive. Find his podcast wherever you get your podcasts

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<v Speaker 1>and tune in every week to the 55KRC Morning Show

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<v Speaker 1>at 830 for another thoughtful analysis. Thank you again, Daniel Davis.

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<v Speaker 1>I appreciate your time on the program.

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<v Speaker 2>See you then.

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<v Speaker 1>Take care. 841-55KRC, the talk station. We're going to ask

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<v Speaker 1>an expert. Like Steve from USA is going to come in.

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<v Speaker 1>Got something to tell you about. Don't go away. More

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about.