1 00:00:01,480 --> 00:00:06,480 Speaker 1: Today on Judge Joe Show, Shannon and Shane are married 2 00:00:06,519 --> 00:00:09,360 Speaker 1: with a thirteen year old son, and they are not 3 00:00:09,600 --> 00:00:13,560 Speaker 1: on the same page about his birthday party. Shannon says 4 00:00:13,800 --> 00:00:17,840 Speaker 1: absolutely not to Hooters. She says she's just trying to 5 00:00:17,840 --> 00:00:21,200 Speaker 1: protect her child, that he's still too young and needs 6 00:00:21,200 --> 00:00:27,240 Speaker 1: an age appropriate celebration, but Shane says absolutely yes. In 7 00:00:27,240 --> 00:00:31,280 Speaker 1: his mind, boys will be boys. Wings sports and a 8 00:00:31,320 --> 00:00:34,960 Speaker 1: little fun is just part of growing up. So who's right, 9 00:00:35,520 --> 00:00:39,120 Speaker 1: the protective mom or the dad who says it's totally normal. 10 00:00:39,920 --> 00:00:42,320 Speaker 1: All rise for Judge Joe Show on ninety three to 11 00:00:42,360 --> 00:00:44,400 Speaker 1: three FLZ Hey. 12 00:00:44,240 --> 00:00:51,640 Speaker 2: Shannon, Hey Shane, helloly and that you guys were originally 13 00:00:51,720 --> 00:00:53,960 Speaker 2: going to be in the same room and just on speakerphone, 14 00:00:54,360 --> 00:00:57,320 Speaker 2: so real quickly, thank you guys for going elsewhere and 15 00:00:57,640 --> 00:01:00,480 Speaker 2: being able to do this. And then however, we come 16 00:01:00,480 --> 00:01:02,680 Speaker 2: to a decision. I don't know, maybe you guys will 17 00:01:02,720 --> 00:01:05,080 Speaker 2: want to be back in the same room, or maybe 18 00:01:05,080 --> 00:01:06,440 Speaker 2: you guys are gonna do a little bit of time, 19 00:01:06,560 --> 00:01:13,560 Speaker 2: but anyways, this is all about your son birthday coming up, Shannon, 20 00:01:14,400 --> 00:01:17,840 Speaker 2: how old is your your son turning again? He's going 21 00:01:17,920 --> 00:01:26,240 Speaker 2: to be fourteen? Exciting and he wants to go to Hooters, 22 00:01:26,840 --> 00:01:29,640 Speaker 2: which you've got an issue with it. What is your 23 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:32,080 Speaker 2: problem with Hooters? 24 00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:36,040 Speaker 3: I mean, I don't doubt that his dad probably got 25 00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:39,920 Speaker 3: this in his head somehow, But to me, Hooters for 26 00:01:40,080 --> 00:01:44,360 Speaker 3: fourteen year old is definitely not age appropriate. I mean, 27 00:01:45,360 --> 00:01:49,640 Speaker 3: push up braws, booty cheeks. It's basically setting them up 28 00:01:49,800 --> 00:01:51,280 Speaker 3: for strip clubs in the future. 29 00:01:51,400 --> 00:01:53,040 Speaker 4: It's it's setting the. 30 00:01:54,080 --> 00:01:56,000 Speaker 5: Think that it's a gateway restaurant. 31 00:01:56,600 --> 00:01:59,440 Speaker 3: Yes, for him to be that kind of guy. Like 32 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:04,160 Speaker 3: it's it's saying like being a man is looking at 33 00:02:04,520 --> 00:02:08,560 Speaker 3: but butt cheeks and boobs, you know, like this is 34 00:02:08,600 --> 00:02:11,520 Speaker 3: part of growing up. I'm totally against it. 35 00:02:12,840 --> 00:02:15,040 Speaker 5: Can I say something Judge real quick? Or should I 36 00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:16,800 Speaker 5: let the defendant speak for himself. 37 00:02:16,880 --> 00:02:20,519 Speaker 2: Let's have Let's have our defendant, uh, you know, defend 38 00:02:20,600 --> 00:02:23,800 Speaker 2: and then plead his case as to why his son 39 00:02:23,880 --> 00:02:29,959 Speaker 2: should be celebrating his fourteenth birthday at Hooters. Shane, Yes, sir, 40 00:02:30,600 --> 00:02:31,080 Speaker 2: talk to me. 41 00:02:33,800 --> 00:02:37,880 Speaker 6: I mean, look, he's fourteen years old. The girls there 42 00:02:37,440 --> 00:02:40,320 Speaker 6: aren't really that you know. 43 00:02:40,280 --> 00:02:41,760 Speaker 4: They're not that badly. 44 00:02:41,880 --> 00:02:45,160 Speaker 6: They have shirts and leggings, and you know, it's it's 45 00:02:45,240 --> 00:02:47,920 Speaker 6: kind of a a Hooters. 46 00:02:47,480 --> 00:02:53,280 Speaker 2: Thing, and you know was it was it your idea? 47 00:02:56,040 --> 00:03:02,480 Speaker 6: I mean it kind of was, but really yeah, yeah, 48 00:03:02,520 --> 00:03:06,160 Speaker 6: you know I was. We were talking about sports and 49 00:03:06,840 --> 00:03:11,560 Speaker 6: you know I should achieve Todames and you know you got. Yeah, 50 00:03:11,560 --> 00:03:12,680 Speaker 6: I'm pretty excited about that. 51 00:03:13,880 --> 00:03:18,359 Speaker 2: Well, I'm sure he did four eight hundred and four 52 00:03:18,440 --> 00:03:21,800 Speaker 2: of the ninety three ninety three. We've got some parents 53 00:03:21,840 --> 00:03:26,000 Speaker 2: on the phone trying to figure out birthday party fourteen 54 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:30,840 Speaker 2: year old boy. Shane, you want to take your son 55 00:03:30,960 --> 00:03:33,760 Speaker 2: to Hooters. Shannon, you got a big problem with it. 56 00:03:33,840 --> 00:03:37,440 Speaker 2: You say, do not do it. Brianna, you actually you 57 00:03:37,520 --> 00:03:38,360 Speaker 2: agree with Shannon. 58 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:45,160 Speaker 7: I do that's teaching the thirteen year old. I justify 59 00:03:45,200 --> 00:03:49,520 Speaker 7: a woman really young, take him laser tag, paintballing, exactly. 60 00:03:51,160 --> 00:03:53,640 Speaker 2: Have a question, how is it objectifying women though, if 61 00:03:53,680 --> 00:03:56,000 Speaker 2: you're just a customer, like if you're just you know, 62 00:03:56,320 --> 00:03:59,480 Speaker 2: a restaurant attendee, because I go to Hooters a lot, 63 00:03:59,520 --> 00:04:02,240 Speaker 2: and I feel like I'm not objectifying anyone. I'm just 64 00:04:02,280 --> 00:04:03,560 Speaker 2: trying to get the boneless. 65 00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:07,240 Speaker 4: Wings, the boneless wings and the. 66 00:04:09,120 --> 00:04:12,960 Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't get it, but Brianna, also, nobody is 67 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:14,920 Speaker 5: holding a gun to these girls heads saying that they 68 00:04:14,960 --> 00:04:15,600 Speaker 5: need to want. 69 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:17,520 Speaker 2: Serving there. 70 00:04:17,640 --> 00:04:18,880 Speaker 5: So it's a two way street. 71 00:04:21,400 --> 00:04:25,599 Speaker 6: Oh it's still the same as Oh, I'm not sure 72 00:04:25,640 --> 00:04:27,480 Speaker 6: who's all listening, but only fans. 73 00:04:27,480 --> 00:04:28,960 Speaker 4: That's still even though they want you. 74 00:04:28,960 --> 00:04:30,600 Speaker 2: Think that Hooters is only fans. 75 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:32,480 Speaker 5: Okay, not even close. 76 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:34,440 Speaker 2: You lost me there now. I will say I would 77 00:04:34,560 --> 00:04:37,440 Speaker 2: if I could get boneless wings. And then the other 78 00:04:37,480 --> 00:04:40,640 Speaker 2: thing too is people never really talk about the curly fries. 79 00:04:41,760 --> 00:04:44,680 Speaker 2: That's why Muggs is a super good place as well, 80 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:46,960 Speaker 2: because when you get the curly fries, like, that's one 81 00:04:46,960 --> 00:04:50,400 Speaker 2: thing you should be teaching your son, Shane is nothing 82 00:04:50,440 --> 00:04:55,359 Speaker 2: goes better with football than wings and curly fries and 83 00:04:55,360 --> 00:04:58,280 Speaker 2: then beer. You know, once he's eighteen. But what's that, Shannon. 84 00:04:59,240 --> 00:05:04,200 Speaker 3: The wings the doves are way better. I mean the wings. 85 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:06,040 Speaker 3: Everybody says it's about the wings. 86 00:05:06,040 --> 00:05:12,640 Speaker 5: It is about the beau. And even then chann and 87 00:05:12,720 --> 00:05:15,039 Speaker 5: some you see some of these girl waitresses and beads 88 00:05:15,040 --> 00:05:18,039 Speaker 5: they are in dressing a little provocative too, you're going 89 00:05:18,120 --> 00:05:18,559 Speaker 5: to escape. 90 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:21,359 Speaker 2: I'm a little shot that we're still looking at Hooters 91 00:05:21,360 --> 00:05:24,039 Speaker 2: as objectifying. I just I suppose I look at it. 92 00:05:24,080 --> 00:05:26,720 Speaker 2: But also, it's called Hooters. 93 00:05:27,320 --> 00:05:28,480 Speaker 3: It's not called wingers. 94 00:05:28,800 --> 00:05:30,000 Speaker 7: It's called Hooters. 95 00:05:31,839 --> 00:05:35,760 Speaker 2: In the name my son is, Oh my god, Christian. 96 00:05:37,080 --> 00:05:42,440 Speaker 6: Hi, guys, Hi, it's it's harmless fun. I think my 97 00:05:42,480 --> 00:05:46,040 Speaker 6: aunt personally was a waitress at Hooters, and I started 98 00:05:46,040 --> 00:05:48,320 Speaker 6: going there. I was like two or three on my 99 00:05:48,360 --> 00:05:52,440 Speaker 6: birthday and I would go every year. It's I mean, 100 00:05:52,680 --> 00:05:55,159 Speaker 6: they're just in tank tops and the short shorts. It's nothing, 101 00:05:55,360 --> 00:05:58,479 Speaker 6: you know, And to be honest, he's almost fourteen anyway, 102 00:05:58,800 --> 00:06:01,120 Speaker 6: and at fourteen, my brother and I were already on 103 00:06:01,120 --> 00:06:02,200 Speaker 6: boobs dot com. 104 00:06:02,040 --> 00:06:08,320 Speaker 2: I stayed on boobs dot com or I love boobs 105 00:06:08,360 --> 00:06:11,839 Speaker 2: dot com. I don't even know what that is. What 106 00:06:12,279 --> 00:06:13,440 Speaker 2: you're never mind? 107 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:17,560 Speaker 7: Yeah, he's on. 108 00:06:17,440 --> 00:06:23,680 Speaker 2: That, Christian, thank you, I mean listen, because I don't 109 00:06:23,720 --> 00:06:26,120 Speaker 2: think that they want Oh no, I don't know. Anyways, 110 00:06:26,200 --> 00:06:29,120 Speaker 2: I got people who are unbelievably close to me who 111 00:06:29,120 --> 00:06:31,280 Speaker 2: have worked there, So I guess I don't look at 112 00:06:31,279 --> 00:06:33,920 Speaker 2: it like that. I suppose I don't know. And also 113 00:06:34,279 --> 00:06:36,600 Speaker 2: maybe it's the fact that it's just a Tampa Bay business. 114 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:42,160 Speaker 2: I like, hey, you're Shane, is that still supporting local? 115 00:06:43,400 --> 00:06:46,120 Speaker 2: Like when you go to outback steakhouses? That supporting local 116 00:06:46,400 --> 00:06:51,520 Speaker 2: because the local support local business. 117 00:06:52,279 --> 00:06:59,720 Speaker 4: Christen, Yeah, go ahead, So I can agree with Christian 118 00:06:59,839 --> 00:07:02,640 Speaker 4: right before me. I have a fifteen year old son, 119 00:07:02,720 --> 00:07:05,600 Speaker 4: and believe me, at fourteen, they've already seen it all. 120 00:07:05,800 --> 00:07:08,919 Speaker 4: They've already heard it all. They've told their friends about it. 121 00:07:08,920 --> 00:07:10,840 Speaker 4: It is not a big deal, Like just let the 122 00:07:10,880 --> 00:07:13,280 Speaker 4: kid have his party at Hooters, Like it's not that 123 00:07:13,320 --> 00:07:13,880 Speaker 4: big a deal. 124 00:07:15,080 --> 00:07:16,920 Speaker 3: Okay, it is a big deal to me because we're 125 00:07:16,960 --> 00:07:20,400 Speaker 3: talking about me as a mother and my son. Just 126 00:07:20,400 --> 00:07:22,560 Speaker 3: because all the boobs are out there and you can 127 00:07:22,600 --> 00:07:25,440 Speaker 3: see only fans and you can see stuff online, does 128 00:07:25,440 --> 00:07:30,000 Speaker 3: it mean that I'm gonna fund it and celebrate? 129 00:07:30,040 --> 00:07:32,120 Speaker 4: Do you go to public Does he go to public school? 130 00:07:34,040 --> 00:07:35,520 Speaker 3: Yes, he goes to public school. 131 00:07:35,680 --> 00:07:42,360 Speaker 4: Okay, then he has seen plenty of Hooters. The girls 132 00:07:42,400 --> 00:07:45,240 Speaker 4: at school got those short shorts and those low cut tops. 133 00:07:45,240 --> 00:07:48,840 Speaker 4: He's already seen it. Like it's okay. 134 00:07:48,920 --> 00:07:51,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not on board with it, and I'm it's 135 00:07:51,920 --> 00:07:54,320 Speaker 3: not about not being a cool mom. I'm going to 136 00:07:54,440 --> 00:07:56,720 Speaker 3: keep my son as pristine as possible. 137 00:07:56,960 --> 00:08:02,560 Speaker 4: At fourteen, he's public school. On the internet has taken 138 00:08:02,560 --> 00:08:03,560 Speaker 4: that from our kids, the. 139 00:08:03,560 --> 00:08:04,800 Speaker 7: Public school and internet. 140 00:08:05,240 --> 00:08:07,160 Speaker 4: There are no Christine kids anymore. 141 00:08:08,520 --> 00:08:10,760 Speaker 3: Well, that's great, he can see I'm not going to 142 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:15,200 Speaker 3: pay for a party at Hooters. It's like you're justifying 143 00:08:15,280 --> 00:08:18,840 Speaker 3: tank tops, and it's the whole message that I'm sending to. 144 00:08:18,800 --> 00:08:21,679 Speaker 4: My kids at the same outfit. 145 00:08:22,760 --> 00:08:26,640 Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you, thank you. Kristen. By the way, 146 00:08:27,280 --> 00:08:33,719 Speaker 2: like twin Peaks is like, why is not oh yeah, 147 00:08:34,880 --> 00:08:42,760 Speaker 2: yeah yeah he Shane, Yes, sir, I mean you've been 148 00:08:42,760 --> 00:08:44,120 Speaker 2: awfully quiet. What are you thinking? 149 00:08:45,440 --> 00:08:48,360 Speaker 6: I mean, I'm just sitting back here, you know, listen 150 00:08:48,720 --> 00:08:51,840 Speaker 6: and agreeing with everybody that's called him for the most part. 151 00:08:51,880 --> 00:08:54,600 Speaker 6: I mean, you know, I've seen I caught my song 152 00:08:54,640 --> 00:08:56,959 Speaker 6: on Instagram the other day and he wasn't looking at him. 153 00:08:58,480 --> 00:08:59,600 Speaker 4: Well, I think we. 154 00:08:59,559 --> 00:09:01,920 Speaker 6: Can be what are he was looking at? 155 00:09:03,040 --> 00:09:05,400 Speaker 2: It sounds like you're just Shane. 156 00:09:05,600 --> 00:09:10,840 Speaker 3: You're justifying boobs online for Sun's fourteenth birthday. I mean, 157 00:09:12,320 --> 00:09:14,959 Speaker 3: this is just ridiculous. 158 00:09:15,040 --> 00:09:17,000 Speaker 2: You're being so casual about this. 159 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:19,319 Speaker 4: It's true. 160 00:09:19,559 --> 00:09:23,360 Speaker 2: Laser tag Lisa, what's up, Lisa? Go ahead? Shannon doesn't 161 00:09:23,360 --> 00:09:25,600 Speaker 2: want to something going to Hooters for his fourteenth birthday. 162 00:09:25,640 --> 00:09:28,439 Speaker 2: Shane says, let me take my son to Hooters. Go ahead, Lisa. 163 00:09:29,240 --> 00:09:31,520 Speaker 7: Yeah, So I really don't think it's that big of 164 00:09:31,559 --> 00:09:34,360 Speaker 7: a deal. Honestly, have you been to Hooters, like it's 165 00:09:34,400 --> 00:09:36,800 Speaker 7: really not all that it's cut out like it used 166 00:09:36,840 --> 00:09:38,960 Speaker 7: to be. I mean I just went there with my 167 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:41,760 Speaker 7: whole family and we just sat down, we eat food. 168 00:09:41,800 --> 00:09:43,480 Speaker 7: It wasn't a thing. I mean they even gave my 169 00:09:43,559 --> 00:09:49,800 Speaker 7: kids a frisbee and we left. Yeah. Yeah, I'm not 170 00:09:49,840 --> 00:09:55,240 Speaker 7: gonna they're not. Oh really, honest, I'm just saying it's 171 00:09:55,240 --> 00:09:57,840 Speaker 7: it's really just a restaurant. It's not it's really not 172 00:09:58,040 --> 00:09:59,800 Speaker 7: like sexualized like it used to be. 173 00:10:01,360 --> 00:10:02,160 Speaker 2: Then then I. 174 00:10:02,160 --> 00:10:03,920 Speaker 3: Should take them to a better restaurant. 175 00:10:04,480 --> 00:10:14,440 Speaker 8: I mean, you're objections, come on, you know, and wagu 176 00:10:14,520 --> 00:10:15,280 Speaker 8: beef burger. 177 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:20,880 Speaker 3: You know, make them a foodie not a booby. 178 00:10:21,160 --> 00:10:25,040 Speaker 2: All right, Lisa, thank you, Shannon and Shane. Listen, the 179 00:10:25,120 --> 00:10:28,120 Speaker 2: more and more I heard about, you know, both of 180 00:10:28,160 --> 00:10:31,640 Speaker 2: your sides and all of this, and and taking a 181 00:10:31,640 --> 00:10:33,640 Speaker 2: look at the callers, We've got a ton of people, 182 00:10:33,679 --> 00:10:36,000 Speaker 2: truthfully that are on Shane's side, but there are people 183 00:10:36,040 --> 00:10:38,760 Speaker 2: calling in who are on Shannon's side as well. At 184 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:40,440 Speaker 2: the end of the day, I know this is a 185 00:10:40,480 --> 00:10:43,720 Speaker 2: total cop out move, but I can't give a mom 186 00:10:43,760 --> 00:10:49,120 Speaker 2: and a dad like decisions on their parents and their parenting. 187 00:10:49,559 --> 00:10:52,760 Speaker 2: So to that, I say, enjoy today. I think there's 188 00:10:52,800 --> 00:10:54,920 Speaker 2: gonna be a lot of fun once, you know, we 189 00:10:55,080 --> 00:10:58,600 Speaker 2: get off. So Shannon and Shane that's judged Joe Show.