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Speaker 1: Welcome and a happy Monday to you. Rube Nation.

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Speaker 2: Nine to Noon production is in the air. And when

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Speaker 2: you hear nine to Noon, describe the Minnesota Twins quote

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Speaker 2: meat loafing end quota series, it means two out of

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Speaker 2: three aim bad. Meat loafing a series we meet loaf

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Speaker 2: so and so we got meat loaf by the Orioles.

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Speaker 1: Two out of three, ain't bad.

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Speaker 2: That's an old song by a band called meat loaf,

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Speaker 2: all right, and Nine to Noon really was hoping the

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Speaker 2: Minnesota Twins would meet Loaf the Orioles this weekend and

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Speaker 2: had their chances late, but instead got meet loaf Dah.

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Speaker 2: The abs technology went against us twice late, the meat

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Speaker 2: loaf soured, shelter got tossed, and an opportunity was missed.

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Speaker 2: Now why is this important? So what's the missed opportunity?

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Speaker 2: Positivity in the Minnesota Twins covenant? By starting a season

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Speaker 2: beating anybody two out of three times, maybe fleeting this

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Speaker 2: season meet loaf. Fio's is big dogs every game and

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Speaker 2: that brings joy and happiness to their most dedicated fans.

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Speaker 2: That brings joy and happiness to nine to Noon and

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Speaker 2: the most dedicated fans a group that seems to be

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Speaker 2: dwindling to Tad and milking the teats of satisfaction was

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Speaker 2: is and always will be a calling card for the

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Speaker 2: nine to Noon presentation, and opportunity was missed with the

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Speaker 2: Minnesota Twins meshing with the fans and nine to Noon

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Speaker 2: to take two out of three, And that wouldn't have

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Speaker 2: been bad, because I mean, we're not going to cast

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Speaker 2: our gays with March Baseball to June, July, August, and September.

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Speaker 2: But meet loafing teams two out of taking two out

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Speaker 2: of three in a series that might be fleeting. That

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Speaker 2: might not happen too frequently. So you need to strike

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Speaker 2: the proverbial iron when that bad boy is hot, flying

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Speaker 2: in the face of the age of rage provides hope

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Speaker 2: and happiness. But it turned against us mid afternoon yesterday,

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Speaker 2: and there was some controversy. We're trying to meet Lofio's

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Speaker 2: as big dogs every game. Yours truly became captivated by

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Speaker 2: the top of the eighth inning, We're down eight five.

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Speaker 2: It ended up being eight to six. But then the

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Speaker 2: old ABS, the old Automated Ball Strike System ABS was

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Speaker 2: ugh as an Augah. We lost Josh Bell, he'd been

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Speaker 2: on base four times in that game. We lost Josh

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Speaker 2: Bell to a strikeout with the old ABS U G

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Speaker 2: H for manager Derek Shelton. Shelte on the technological third strike,

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Speaker 2: five percent of the baseball hit the video game edge

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Speaker 2: of the strike zone ninety five percent mass. It's tough

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Speaker 2: to take, especially when you're looking for meat loaf and

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Speaker 2: a season that might be bad, a season that might

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Speaker 2: be middling, a season that, in baseball's version of miraculous fashion,

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Speaker 2: potentially could be better than people think. But an opportunity

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Speaker 2: was missed. Down goes Bell in a massive spot. Shelty

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Speaker 2: tripped out and was tossed. I mean, that's a lot

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Speaker 2: of action early in a one hundred and sixty two

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Speaker 2: game season. It is ABS with two consecutive strikes, two

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Speaker 2: consecutive strikes via the technological mastery of ABS Bell dead

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Speaker 2: surgical efficient, fast, ABS automated balls and strikes nibbled on

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Speaker 2: the edge the video game displayed, and it was fast.

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Speaker 2: What do we call that thing in football the first

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Speaker 2: down bit? Oh, the virtual measurement, virtual measurement. Yeah, unlike

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Speaker 2: the virtual measurement.

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Speaker 3: Takes ten minutes.

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Speaker 2: ABS was fast. We were on the wrong side of it.

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Speaker 2: It was surgical ABS, automated balls and strikes.

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Speaker 3: I know these moments are fleeting. It's a long season

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Speaker 3: and we need to focus on exactly what's in front

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Speaker 3: of us or directly behind us with this baseball team. Yes,

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Speaker 3: did you see CB Buckner?

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Speaker 1: See?

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Speaker 3: This ABS thing is fascinating because in a lot of ways,

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Speaker 3: it's going to solve the issues of the rating system

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Speaker 3: of various umpires and the human error element of the game.

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Speaker 3: From an umpire and standpoint. CB Buckner was challenged eight

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Speaker 3: times in a game this weekend and he lost six

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Speaker 1: Are kid? Six overturned pitch calls?

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Speaker 3: Wow, including consecutive third strike calls.

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Speaker 2: It just hideous. It's I mean, it's right. It's like

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Speaker 2: when we were chatting with Heinsey last week. I don't

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Speaker 2: think you were here, and the McCarran scored a goal

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Speaker 2: in Tampa Bay and Bobby brink pushed this Befeeder, He

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Speaker 2: cross checked him, said b Feeder might have toppled purposely

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Speaker 2: into Vassilevsky. Down goes the goaltender. Goal disallowed. So Heinze

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Speaker 2: was like, by the letter of the law, it was

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Speaker 2: called correctly and then paraphrasing if we're supposed to think

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Speaker 2: Bobby Brink can really push that be feeder that hole

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Speaker 2: that hard to drive him into the goaltender. Well, then

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Speaker 2: we got some beachfront property outside of the seven oh

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Speaker 2: two just waiting for you for about a half million. Okay,

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Speaker 2: So the letter of the ABSLA w yes, down goes Bell.

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Speaker 2: Five percent or less of the baseball was on the edge,

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Speaker 2: meaning come on the C. B.

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Speaker 1: Buckner's of the world.

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Speaker 2: The the the ump the home played umpire was ninety percent.

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Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, down goes Bell. So by the letter of

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Speaker 1: the law, it was right. But it's all new to me.

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Speaker 3: The ABS letter of the law, letter of the law

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Speaker 3: for the Minnesota Twins in Kansas City today, Right, So.

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Speaker 2: The Twins got meat loaf back at it today indeed

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Speaker 2: against Kansas City. The home opener is Friday against Tampa

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Speaker 2: Bay and nine to noon really really really wanted to

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Speaker 2: share some happiness and some positivity by meat loafing a

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Speaker 2: team to start the season, a season of doom according

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Speaker 2: to many and Alicia start with two out of three.

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Speaker 1: Ain't bad.

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Speaker 2: I mean, of course, there were other things that went

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Speaker 2: into the game, the bullpen and Byron Buxton striking out

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Speaker 2: top eight and Gunner Henderson trying to fix the game

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Speaker 2: by booting one on the top of the ninth and

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Speaker 2: chipchair chance and then all of a sudden we're dead

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Speaker 2: and we get meat loaf. But the abs, ma'am.

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Speaker 1: How did you put it several minutes ago?

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Speaker 3: Now that I've pulled the bed out, the something about milking,

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Speaker 3: something about positivity?

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Speaker 1: Can we just all right? I forgot no well to see.

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Speaker 2: Nine to Noon The Love Covenant was, is, and always

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Speaker 2: will be a radio show that looks defined positivity, specifically

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Speaker 2: in the age of rage, where things can be bleak

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Speaker 2: whether the context is taken or not. Nine to Noon

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Speaker 2: is a radio presentation that prides itself on milking the

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Speaker 2: teats of satisfaction. We milk the teats of satisfaction. Was, is,

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Speaker 2: and always will be the calling card for the Nine

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Speaker 2: to Noon production.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for that.

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Speaker 2: By the way, with the Minnesota Twins and what Happened

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Speaker 2: this weekend seems like a good starting point for the

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Speaker 2: Northern Fire Weekend or Rap, and here they are.

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Speaker 3: com speaking of teats and milking and satisfaction. Sadly we

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Speaker 3: didn't get to do so with the howl on Saturday ball.

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Speaker 4: No, the Wolves have the rebound Copley right side three ball,

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Speaker 5: Any of the Pistons have the rebound.

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Speaker 4: I'm sure it leaves the break sets up John take

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Speaker 4: reading the quarer tickles the twine on a three boy

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Speaker 4: that might do it. Ninety seven minutes left.

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Speaker 3: I can listen to Alan Horton in the midst of

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Speaker 3: a blowout. I enjoyed that. I did not enjoy the game.

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Speaker 3: Fun little Saturday affair, no Aunt, no Desumo, no McDaniels,

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Speaker 3: Darren Shannon Junior. Oh he's in the start in five

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Speaker 3: for your favorite hoops team. They were down five at half,

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Speaker 3: then it got weird twenty two. The final margin, I

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Speaker 3: believe one nine eighty seven. Eight games left, including tonight

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Speaker 3: at Dallas. Six of eight are away from target center,

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Speaker 3: so it's a little dicey.

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Speaker 1: Not for the play in.

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Speaker 3: I think they still have a four game margin that

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Speaker 3: they can a buffer if you will, in terms of

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Speaker 3: the priority being not being in the awful playing bit. However,

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Speaker 3: they're tied with Houston in the fifth slot they play.

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Speaker 3: The big difference here, PA would be playing the Nuggets

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Speaker 3: versus the Lakers in Round one, which I actually think

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Speaker 3: is a massive difference. I love our matchup with Denver,

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Speaker 3: but some things to be figured out.

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Speaker 5: Go beat the.

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Speaker 1: MAVs and move forward. Hey, shocker and with respect.

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Speaker 2: Our favorite professional basketball team got blown out at home

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Speaker 2: on a weekend game, like it did against Orlando, like

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Speaker 2: it did against Philly, like it did against the LA Clippers.

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Speaker 2: I have no idea why this keeps happening on the weekends,

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Speaker 2: but we got smacked around again weekend wrap.

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Speaker 1: How about the Wild? The Wild pinned in their dieze own.

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Speaker 6: Here's poster knock off the bench, Hill dart in right

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Speaker 6: side cross ice, Arvidson stores.

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Speaker 2: Heygner Armitt said, waiting in the weeds bottof circle, found.

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Speaker 7: Some open ice.

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Speaker 6: Posterknock put it on a team.

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Speaker 1: It's three, not growing.

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Speaker 3: That was midway through the second period. Austin did make

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Speaker 3: it three. Rip Carell got us moving later in the

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Speaker 3: period to make it three to one. Hartman eventually pulls

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Speaker 3: the Wild within one with about six and a half

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Speaker 3: minutes left before the Bruins stretched it to five to three.

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Speaker 3: I believe an empty net are on the back end.

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Speaker 3: My math says at six to three, Wild have only

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Speaker 3: gotten points in three of their last eight contests. Not

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Speaker 3: exactly ramping up to the postseason, are we? And now

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Speaker 3: we're chilling. We're chilling until Thursday, Vancouver in town. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: eight games in like twelve days. By the way, I

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Speaker 3: think there's two back to backs remaining, only three left

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Speaker 3: at Grand Casino Arena before the playoffs. Maybe three vos

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Speaker 3: in the box presentations. I don't know, just throwing it

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Speaker 3: out there.

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Speaker 2: We were going to Dallas for the postseason, boys, Yes

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Speaker 2: we are. We're going to Dallas. Colorado puts several on

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Speaker 2: the Stars. The Stars have put several on us, So

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Speaker 2: dust off your knowledge on the rantin Ins and the

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Speaker 2: Robertsons and the Johnstons and so on, including Nottinginger.

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Speaker 1: We're going to.

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Speaker 3: Dallas for the playoffs, boys, Yes we are. We mentioned

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Speaker 3: the Twins. They lose two to three to Baltimore. But hey,

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Speaker 3: cool for Royce Lewis to find that power.

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Speaker 1: Really good change up. I don't think that's gonna play huge.

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Speaker 1: Royce to left, sending ward back track all turns and

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Speaker 2: Royce lewis Is homework for the second straight game, and

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Speaker 2: the Twins answer back gets by buck.

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Speaker 1: See a bit of positivity, some tete.

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Speaker 3: Milking for satisfaction, at least for Royce Lewis. Want him

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Speaker 3: to stay healthy, want him to put that bat on ball,

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Speaker 3: put that thing over the fence on a regular basis.

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Speaker 1: We liked it.

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Speaker 3: He got two over the weekend again, Twins are at

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Speaker 3: Kansas City weird off day tomorrow. Then they play two

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Speaker 3: more against the Royals, and then they're home against the

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Speaker 3: Rays on the weekend. Now you heard it here, Final

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Speaker 3: four Action were your home for everything, it feels like.

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Speaker 3: But Arizona beats Purdue over the weekend. They're in the

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Speaker 3: final four. Ilini super impressive. They in Iowa season. Illinois

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Speaker 3: is in the final four. Michigan beat the Balls to

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Speaker 3: a pulp and then Duke, Hey, Duke's gonna make it

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Speaker 3: back to the final four.

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Speaker 2: Oh wait, seventy two seventy two by two, hey, sorry

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Speaker 2: to keep the inbound and how full court pressure from

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Speaker 2: Yukon Sary gets it into cam Boozer, Boo boozer.

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Speaker 1: Back to Star now ahead.

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Speaker 2: Longtime friend Rich Gannon, former Vikings quarterback and National Football

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Speaker 1: Per chance he starts and good morning, Good.

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Speaker 5: Morning brother, great to be with you. I would suggest

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Speaker 5: every day. That's that's the best piece of advice I

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Speaker 2: One, Rich how have you viewed the totality of Kyler

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Speaker 5: I would say disappointing. And you know, if I think

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Speaker 5: He's got eighty seven starts. He's thirty eight forty eight

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Speaker 5: His ability to function from the pocket is also a concern.

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Speaker 5: He's much more comfortable operating in the gun. That creates

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Speaker 5: But you know, I think he's he's got arm talent,

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Speaker 5: that he's played for. Now. Can that change, certainly, But

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Speaker 1: That was a terrific answer.

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Speaker 2: So so MVP with with Kyler's natural running vision and ability,

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Speaker 5: Well, I would say Kyler Burray, despite his size, throws

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Speaker 5: So you know, there's a lot of opinions on this,

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Speaker 5: You know, he started ten games last year, the completion

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Speaker 5: You have to show and earn just like the other

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Speaker 5: a JJ McCarthy can't you can't be a no show

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Speaker 5: and you get bigger personnel in the field defensively, and

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Speaker 5: then you throw the ball and I think, you know,

435
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Speaker 5: you look at the good good offenses in football. The

436
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Speaker 5: Bills are do a great job of it. The Chiefs

437
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Speaker 5: do a good job of it, not just with Kelsey,

438
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Speaker 5: but with multiple tight end packages. When I was with

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Speaker 5: the Raiders, we used three tight end packages. We got

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Speaker 5: in the big personnel group because we've got big people

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Speaker 5: in the field. We ran the football and we play action.

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Speaker 5: It was very effective and that's why it's a great

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Speaker 5: position to have. When you talk about third down offense,

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Speaker 5: you talk about red zone offense. If you have a

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Speaker 5: tight end or tight ends that can win in the

446
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Speaker 5: middle of field, that is a big, big boss.

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Speaker 2: Now Rich is quite gracious to join us a time.

448
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Speaker 2: Two of his former teammates and a former Vikings friend

449
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Speaker 2: of his all died within the last few days. Let's

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Speaker 2: begin here. Former Raider Barrett Robbins at age fifty two.

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Speaker 2: Joey Browner sixty five, Former Vikings linebacker Jeff Seaman at

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Speaker 2: the seventy five. Barrett Robbins fifty two years old. He

453
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Speaker 2: was your center for seventy games, including every game two

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Speaker 2: thousand and two except the Super Bowl that was Rich's

455
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Speaker 2: MVP a year. Cause of death not known yet. What

456
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Speaker 2: was it like working with your battery mate from the

457
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Speaker 2: first day you arrived in Oakland in nineteen ninety nine.

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Speaker 5: Well, when I first got there, he was an emerging

459
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Speaker 5: player at that position, and he was full of life,

460
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Speaker 5: had a beautiful wife and two daughters, a lot like myself.

461
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Speaker 5: You know, we had a lot in common, and we

462
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Speaker 5: worked really well together, and it was fun to see

463
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Speaker 5: him to kind of grow and develop into the player

464
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Speaker 5: that he became. He obviously had some problems and some challenges,

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Speaker 5: and we were well aware of that, and it was

466
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Speaker 5: just really frustrating to see it kind of unravel the

467
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Speaker 5: way it did and really spiral out of control. But

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Speaker 5: he was a gentle giant. He was a really, really

469
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Speaker 5: wonderful person. He loved his family despite the challenges that

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Speaker 5: he had, He loved his teammates. He was great in

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Speaker 5: the community. He was always giving back, he was always smiling,

472
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Speaker 5: He was a joy to be around the locker room.

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Speaker 5: So it's a big loss for obviously for his family,

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Speaker 5: but also for the for the Raider family, because he

475
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Speaker 5: was a guy that was really well respected despite some

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Speaker 5: of the challenges that he had.

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Speaker 2: What so rich, what was it like the day before

478
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Speaker 2: the Super Bowl against Tampa Bay when when you guys

479
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Speaker 2: couldn't find Baron Robbins.

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Speaker 5: Well, we went to the stadium for a walk through

481
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Speaker 5: and the team picture, which is kind of customary the

482
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Speaker 5: day before the Super Bowl, and he wasn't there, and

483
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Speaker 5: so you know, obviously that there was some calls for

484
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Speaker 5: concern and nobody really knew what was going on. And

485
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Speaker 5: then we got back to the hotel and I was

486
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Speaker 5: in I remember I was in. I was in a

487
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Speaker 5: quarterback meeting with Jim Harbaugh and Mark Dressman and the

488
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Speaker 5: other quarterbacks, and Bill Callah and her head coach, came

489
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Speaker 5: in around seven o'clock and said that you know, they

490
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Speaker 5: found Barrett in Mexico and that he's in coherent and

491
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Speaker 5: They're going to send him home. He's not going to

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Speaker 5: play in the Super Bowl, And that was that was

493
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Speaker 5: kind of it.

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Speaker 2: Rich Agannon nine to noon. Joey Browner thirty seven interceptions,

495
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Speaker 2: eighteen forced fumbles and recovered seventeen fumbles through one hundred

496
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Speaker 2: and thirty eight regular season games. To put that in perspective,

497
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Speaker 2: the great Harrison Smith two hundred and seven games, thirty

498
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Speaker 2: nine interceptions, five fewer forced fumbles, and ten fewer fumble

499
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Speaker 2: recoveries despite like sixty nine to seventy more games. What

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Speaker 2: do you remember about Joey Browner?

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Speaker 5: Well, I played with for my six years in Minnesota.

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Speaker 5: I mean, you're talking about six time Pro bowler. You

503
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Speaker 5: remember the All Decade Team, Mike Vikings Ring of Honor.

504
00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:37,399
Speaker 5: I played again, I played with some great defensive players.

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Speaker 5: I played against some great ones. I don't remember a

506
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Speaker 5: safety that was as big and strong and fast and

507
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Speaker 5: as violent and as disruptive as Joey Browner. I think,

508
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Speaker 5: you know, you think about a John Lynch. Joey was bigger.

509
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Speaker 5: Joey was a bigger guy. Joey could have played linebacker.

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Speaker 5: He had you know, he was a black belt. He

511
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Speaker 5: had big, strong, physical hands, when he got his hands

512
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Speaker 5: on you, it was over. And I remember him pulling

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Speaker 5: down Jerald Willhite from behind, the running back from the

514
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Speaker 5: Broncos and snapped his tiva. I mean that's how powerful

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Speaker 5: Joey was. And he was he was always smiling. Uh,

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Speaker 5: he was. He was so much fun to be around.

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Speaker 5: I just I just loved the guy he was. He

518
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Speaker 5: was mentally was a great player, he was a great teammate,

519
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Speaker 5: he was a great.

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Speaker 2: Friend, and then he was an imposing figure. So, like,

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Speaker 2: what was it like when you first met him? All Right,

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Speaker 2: you're a rookie from Delaware, Joey was a three time

523
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Speaker 2: pro bowler. When you first arrived at Winter Park, I mean,

524
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Speaker 2: your voice might have been cracking, You're still developing, and

525
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Speaker 2: there's there's this beast Joey Browner.

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Speaker 1: What was that like?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, let's just be honest. I was a slappy from Delaware.

528
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Speaker 5: I walked in there. This is the first round pick

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Speaker 5: from USC who was a dominant player for the Minnesota Vikings.

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Speaker 5: And I just remember him in practice. I mean, you're

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Speaker 5: trying to read the secondary and there's Joey Browner. I'm like,

532
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Speaker 5: oh my gosh. But you know, he played on some

533
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Speaker 5: great USC teams you know he played, and you know

534
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Speaker 5: obviously a lot of big games, you know, I think

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Speaker 5: when he was at USC there were thirty six eight

536
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Speaker 5: and one while played in a Rose Bowl game. If

537
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Speaker 5: he has the ball, he was. But I just think

538
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Speaker 5: that you know the type of player that he was.

539
00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:27,520
Speaker 5: Great tackler, very physical, had great range, and the secondary

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Speaker 5: did a great job distrat disguising his attentions. How about this,

541
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Speaker 5: how about when when Bud Grant and even Jerry Burns

542
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Speaker 5: put him on the Punk team. Yeah, as a gunner

543
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Speaker 5: right and running down there and making tackles. Just a

544
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Speaker 5: dominant player and one that's going to be sorely missed

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Speaker 5: by by the Viking Viking.

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Speaker 2: Faithful and lastly another one sorely missed by you know,

547
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Speaker 2: those who care about the old school nature of the team.

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Speaker 2: Seventy five year old Jeff Seaman a college football Hall

549
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Speaker 2: of Famer who played at Stanford. He was a linebacker

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Speaker 2: for the Minnesota Vikings.

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Speaker 1: And even though even though.

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Speaker 2: You know from playing with him, you know you didn't

553
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Speaker 2: play with him, correct me if I'm wrong, but I

554
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Speaker 2: recall that you know him quite well.

555
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Speaker 1: Is that accurate? I know him really well?

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Speaker 5: And the reason I knew him well was because, as

557
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Speaker 5: you know, DA, when Jeff Seamen finished his career, he

558
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Speaker 5: was very active in the ministry, and you know, he

559
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Speaker 5: was the director of the Minnesota Search Ministries. He was

560
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Speaker 5: always around the facility to spend time with young people,

561
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Speaker 5: to welcome them to different Bible studies and to different outreaches.

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Speaker 5: I spoke at a number of them, and I just

563
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Speaker 5: always remember his kindness and his goodness and his gentleness

564
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Speaker 5: and his faithfulness. And that's what I'll remember about Jeff's Seaman.

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Speaker 5: I know he's a dominant player. He played with my

566
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Speaker 5: father in law a little bit, and I just remember

567
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Speaker 5: out to see as a Pro Bowl player and a

568
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Speaker 5: member of the Vikings anniversary teams and fiftieth grade is

569
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Speaker 5: the greatest of all those things. But most importantly he

570
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Speaker 5: was He was a good Christian man who loved and

571
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Speaker 5: served the Lord faith Blaye. And that's that's the best

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Speaker 5: thing I can say about Jeffsey And he was a

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Speaker 5: real blessing to me and my family.

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Speaker 2: Off that, and lastly, speaking speaking of speaking of gridiron

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Speaker 2: and gospel or football and faith, arise with the guys

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Speaker 2: is April eighteenth, The Grace church info and tickets that

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Speaker 2: arise with the guys dot com. Rich has been a

578
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Speaker 2: key key part of this event for many many years,

579
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Speaker 2: specifically the Friday Night Uncommon Dinner which is terrific and

580
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Speaker 2: is is your inclusion due to former Vikings chaplain Tom

581
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Speaker 2: Lamfear and his wife Jeanie exactly.

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Speaker 5: So you know, I've known Tom and Jeannie from a

583
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Speaker 5: long time and talk about be a someone who's helped

584
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Speaker 5: me in my faith walk. And Tom was the team

585
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Speaker 5: chaplain for the Vikings forever and along with the Twins

586
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Speaker 5: and the golfers and him and Tim and Jeanie have

587
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Speaker 5: done this amazing job the Twin. The city is really

588
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Speaker 5: administered to a lot of not only the players, but

589
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Speaker 5: their families, the wives, the wives Bible study. And so

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Speaker 5: I've known Tom a long time. I've supported athletes and

591
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Speaker 5: actions in their ministry. Tony Dungee has been Tony and

592
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Speaker 5: Lauren Dungee have been so gracious to come in it

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Speaker 5: every year for the event. It's Hazelteam on the seventeenth

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Speaker 5: and it is a wonderful, wonderful evening of course the

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Speaker 5: following day at Grace Church and I just if you

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Speaker 5: want to get more information it's a Rise with the

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Speaker 5: Guys twenty twenty six. I think the website is just

598
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Speaker 5: that it's www. Arise with the Guys dot com and

599
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Speaker 5: get more information. But it's an amazing opportunity to come

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Speaker 5: out and have a good time and to be around

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Speaker 5: some people who really not only have played the game,

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Speaker 5: but no in love and the servant Lord.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's an honor I get to take part in

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Speaker 2: this yearly this year also sportscaster Chris Brussarge part of it.

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Speaker 1: H O F Tony Dungee, c J.

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Speaker 5: Ham.

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Speaker 1: I believe Cooper Cupp is going to be involved.

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Speaker 2: So last question here, why do you think it's a

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Speaker 2: cool opportunity for men of all ages to attend a

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Speaker 2: Rise with the Guys.

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Speaker 5: Well, I just think first of all, the whole idea

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Speaker 5: behind it is to bring a friend, right, invite somebody

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Speaker 5: to come out and for the evening or for the

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Speaker 5: for the day and just to just to sit and

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Speaker 5: listen and just to listen to people share their testimonies

616
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Speaker 5: and to share how the Lord has impacted their lives.

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Speaker 5: I think it's a worthwhile mission for people to not

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Speaker 5: only be grounded in their own faith, but to be

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Speaker 5: witnesses and to be able to share their faith with others.

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Speaker 5: And that's what we're really all called to do. And

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Speaker 5: I think that's this is an amazing day. And I

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Speaker 5: think when you think about the people who come in

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Speaker 5: and give it their time, efforts and energy and really

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Speaker 5: talents to to share what's going on, well, how the

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Speaker 5: Lord has impacted their lives. The Actually, we could do

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Speaker 5: a whole segment on the blessings that I have received,

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Speaker 5: uh and and really the blessings I've received from people

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Speaker 5: who have cared enough to share with me. In other words,

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Speaker 5: it's easy to keep the private, and my faith is private.

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Speaker 5: I don't want to keep it just what I do

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Speaker 5: is I do or someone to say, you know what,

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Speaker 5: let me share with you how the Lord has touched me,

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Speaker 5: and let me share with you. And that's that's a

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Speaker 5: very intimate, very personal thing for people, and sometimes for

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Speaker 5: some people may be uncomfortable. Not for people like Tony Dunzay, you,

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Speaker 5: Tom Lanfear, Peyton nang or Is, There's so many others

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Speaker 5: that have come in and received this award. It's it's

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Speaker 5: what they're called to do. It When you when you

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Speaker 5: know something and you have it in your heart and

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Speaker 5: your soul, and it's moved you to a point where

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Speaker 5: you feel you have to you have to share it

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Speaker 5: with somebody else. You want to share it with somebody else.

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Speaker 5: You want to you want to give blessings to somebody else.

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Speaker 5: That's what this that's what this weekend's all about. And

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Speaker 5: so I'm just thrilled and delighted to be a part

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Speaker 5: of it.

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Speaker 2: I couldn't love you anymore than I do. Greatly appreciate,

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Speaker 2: greatly appreciate the time have funded animill stand touch right

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Speaker 2: to the best sea money. See you, man Rich Cannon,

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Speaker 2: former NFL MVP. That event we're talking about April eighteenth

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Speaker 2: at Grace Church in Eden Prairie. It's called a Rise

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Speaker 2: with the Guy. Starts at nine am, runs until around

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Speaker 2: eleven am. And to get more information and or tickets

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Speaker 2: at a risewitheguys dot com. Acting General Manager for your

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Speaker 2: Minnesota Vikings, Rob Brazinski joins us next.

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Speaker 1: To Arizona we Go.

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Speaker 2: Mister Rob Razinski is executive vice president of football Operations

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Speaker 2: for the Minnesota Vikings. He's also the acting general manager,

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Speaker 2: and he joins us. Now, good morning, Rob, how are you?

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Speaker 2: At seven forty seven am Scottsdale time.

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Speaker 8: I am great, Pa. It doesn't sound like the weather

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Speaker 8: down here is too much warmer than it's just back

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Speaker 8: at home, though, you guys are going to push.

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Speaker 1: Seventy I think, no, we're doing okay.

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Speaker 2: But by the time you get back, you know how

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Speaker 2: a worksman is Minnesota, you'll probably fly right into some

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Speaker 2: thirty five degree weather. But the off season is hot

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Speaker 2: for a lot of teams. The drafts coming up. Man,

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Speaker 2: It's just it's always percolating in the National Football League.

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Speaker 1: Rob, let's begin here. How is just overall?

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Speaker 2: How has the off season gone for you as acting

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Speaker 2: general manager?

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Speaker 8: It's been great. You know, it's been a real collaborative effort,

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Speaker 8: you know, with the personnel staff and KO and the

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Speaker 8: coaching staff, and you know, we had a process and

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Speaker 8: a plan in place, you know that we set to

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Speaker 8: you know, to execute and you know, some of it,

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Speaker 8: a lot of it went the way we wanted it

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Speaker 8: to go. And there are some times that you have

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Speaker 8: to pivot and and you know, change course. And I

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Speaker 8: think I'm just really proud of the things that we

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Speaker 8: were able to accomplish and also some of the discipline

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Speaker 8: we had and you know, kind of pulling back the

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Speaker 8: rains at times just to make sure we're stacking good decisions.

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Speaker 2: Those make for interesting conversations, right, I mean, you've been

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Speaker 2: around so long, you know, nearly.

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Speaker 1: Three decades around here.

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Speaker 2: But but now as acting general manager, not saying that

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Speaker 2: your voice is different in the room, but I'm quite

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Speaker 2: positive that it is.

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Speaker 1: I just wouldn't know to what level.

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Speaker 2: But these are the These are like friendship and and

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Speaker 2: and business cohort related conversations.

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Speaker 5: Right.

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Speaker 8: Sometimes they're tough, absolutely, there's no question. And I think

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Speaker 8: you know that we've been talking about all off season.

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Speaker 8: You know, as long as you can have on a

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Speaker 8: constructive dialogue, you know, every nobody has any agenda. Everybody

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Speaker 8: you know wants the same goal. We all want to

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Speaker 8: achieve the same thing. And so if we can have

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Speaker 8: these honest conversations, we're going to get to where we

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Speaker 8: want to be ultimately with decisions. But it also is

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Speaker 8: going to bring as closer as people.

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Speaker 5: Uh.

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Speaker 2: And and you know, the last time we chatted with

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Speaker 2: on that couch in Indianapolis with bursage to your left, media, right,

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Speaker 2: the the implementing of of a philosophical approach to team building,

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Speaker 2: and you know, these are the very very very early

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Speaker 2: stages of implementing this approach to team building is an

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Speaker 2: easy staying patient, Rob.

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Speaker 8: I think that's a big part of the PA, and

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Speaker 8: you know, you just you want to feel like you

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Speaker 8: have to steal all your quote unquote needs in March.

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Speaker 8: You know, we don't kick off until September. There are

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Speaker 8: many many markets, you know, still ahead of us, and

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Speaker 8: I think there's going to be unique opportunities that you know,

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Speaker 8: may present themselves as we work through the off season,

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Speaker 8: and you know, we want to be ready and have

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Speaker 8: some dry powder, you know, to be able to capitalize

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Speaker 8: on those opportunities.

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Speaker 2: How would you describe team building for the now while

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Speaker 2: also looking at future years and balancing.

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Speaker 1: All of that.

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Speaker 8: A big part of what we're doing right now is

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Speaker 8: we're looking for the future. You know, we've you know,

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Speaker 8: we spend a lot of money in the last couple

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Speaker 8: of years, so we're being very very mindful of not

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Speaker 8: that there are any restraints whatsoever from ownership, but the

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Speaker 8: salary cap is a hard cap, despite what some people

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Speaker 8: might think, and so what we're trying to do is

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Speaker 8: make sure we're bridging towards twenty seven in the future.

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Speaker 8: You know, while also you know, putting the most competitive

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Speaker 8: team we can on.

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Speaker 5: The field this year.

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Speaker 1: This is Rob Brazinski.

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Speaker 2: He's the executive vice president of football operations and acting

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Speaker 2: general manager for the Minnesota Vikings. The owners meetings are

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Speaker 2: taking place in Arizona, and Rob was nice enough to

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Speaker 2: join us.

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Speaker 1: Kevin O'Connell, head coach, about twenty minutes from now.

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Speaker 2: Who gets the final call for you guys on draft picks?

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Speaker 2: And I asked, because like, if a bunch of the

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Speaker 2: rookies help right away, it'll be clear you never can

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Speaker 2: leave that role, Rob, Well, in this.

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Speaker 8: Business, do PA you know? I mean, you're not going

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Speaker 8: to know on the rookies right out of the gate anyway.

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Speaker 8: I mean, I think the worst thing you can do

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Speaker 8: in judging a class is to look at the draft grades,

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Speaker 8: you know, on you know, whatever it is. May first,

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Speaker 8: you know, part of what we do with our rookies

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Speaker 8: is is there's a plan for them for the future too,

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Speaker 8: And so you obviously want as many guys as possible

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Speaker 8: to help, you know, immediately in twenty twenty six, but

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Speaker 8: we're also looking for is to have a plan in place,

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Speaker 8: you know, what's going to be the role for year one,

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Speaker 8: but eventually what's the future developmental and growth plan for

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Speaker 8: the players too? So and I would just caution too,

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Speaker 8: you know, judging any class on immediate impact, you know,

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Speaker 8: you've got to give it just a little time.

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Speaker 2: Hey, Rob, what what are you guys non draft free

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Speaker 2: agency related? What do you guys like about offensive lineman

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Speaker 2: Ryan van Demark, formerly with the Buffalo Bills.

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Speaker 5: This is just the case.

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Speaker 8: We're just really really proud of our personnel staff, our

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Speaker 8: pro staff, all our evaluators, you know, just looking at

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Speaker 8: every opportunity. You know, the restricted free agency market is

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Speaker 8: a market that exists, but it doesn't get a ton

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Speaker 8: of play. And you know, our staff did the work,

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Speaker 8: really liked this guy for us, and we are fortunate that,

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Speaker 8: you know, we were able to bring in the.

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Speaker 2: Minnesota So so is it fair to say with Van

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Speaker 2: de Mark? You know, here here we are in March,

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Speaker 2: so we're not going to be give any spots away

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Speaker 2: in March for September games. But just fortifying the Minnesota

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Speaker 2: moving company, trying to find ways to fortify the trenches

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Speaker 2: on both sides of the ball, and vander Mark seems

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Speaker 2: to fit, is that there?

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Speaker 8: Yeah, that's exactly right. You know, just a really really

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Speaker 8: important position, you know on our football team, you know,

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Speaker 8: offensive line, specifically tackle, and you know, just like other

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Speaker 8: you know, positional groups. You just want as much depth

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Speaker 8: as possible.

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Speaker 2: What Rob, what what approach to the draft are you

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Speaker 2: guys taking this year that maybe has been missed the

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Speaker 2: last handful of years.

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Speaker 8: I can't really look back to the past, but you know,

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Speaker 8: like we've been saying, you know, our philosophy is just

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Speaker 8: to you know, objectively, get these players graded, get our

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Speaker 8: board set, you know, the way we like the talent,

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Speaker 8: and you know it's kind of cliche. You're going to

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Speaker 8: try to fill your needs, but you also have to

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Speaker 8: be mindful of the depth of the draft and the

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Speaker 8: talent of the draft. And we're just going to try

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Speaker 8: to add good football players at every pick that we're selecting.

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Speaker 8: And honestly, that's simply going to be our goal.

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Speaker 2: Rob Razinski A couple of quickies to close here. Appreciate

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Speaker 2: the time my brother tell us about Emily Baddess. Now

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Speaker 2: that's your main assistant, all right. She's one of the

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Speaker 2: kindest people you'll meet and seems to have a very

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Speaker 2: bright future in the game.

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Speaker 1: Did I lay that out the right way you did.

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Speaker 8: I'm hesitant to speak on her because I don't want

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Speaker 8: anybody to try to come in and swoop in and

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Speaker 8: take her away, because she is that talented. I don't

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Speaker 8: know what I would do without her. You know, Emily

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Speaker 8: has been with the Vikings now. I think she should

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Speaker 8: be starting year five now, and she has been instrumental

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Speaker 8: in everything we're doing. I don't do anything from a

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Speaker 8: financial standpoint without, you know, having Embly's opinion. And she's

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Speaker 8: phenomenal and she's even a better person, and and that's

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Speaker 8: that's what this is all about.

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Speaker 1: That's awesome, man.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's been great watching her grow the last half decades,

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Speaker 2: very very gifted. Do you find the draft to be

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Speaker 2: deep with defensive tackles?

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Speaker 7: Uh?

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Speaker 8: You know, the draft every year is going to vary

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Speaker 8: on depth of you know, the positions, and I think

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Speaker 8: some of it's going to depend upon, you know, the scheme,

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Speaker 8: you know, in what different teams are looking for. You know,

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Speaker 8: I don't really want to comment specifically on any particular positions,

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Speaker 8: but there there's a lot of really really good players

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Speaker 8: in this draft that we think that are going to

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Speaker 8: be great Minnesota Vikings.

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Speaker 2: Yes, sir, last one what has been most different for

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Speaker 2: you Rob the last few months manning this role compared

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Speaker 2: to be the chief money man.

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Speaker 8: You know, it's it's it's really been when you're working

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Speaker 8: with Kevin O'Connell and you having a partner like that,

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Speaker 8: and you have the ownership group we have and and

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Speaker 8: you have the personnel staff and the business staff and

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Speaker 8: you know, guys like Jeff Anderson and Sammy I mean,

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Speaker 8: we just we have so many great people and we

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Speaker 8: all work together, and you know, it's it's business is

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Speaker 8: a grind, but it's a privilege and an honor. And

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Speaker 8: we're also having a lot of fun. And that's one

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Speaker 8: of the things we talk about all the time is

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Speaker 8: we're gonna we're gonna enjoy this process. We're going to

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Speaker 8: enjoy the people that were around and and uh, I've

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Speaker 8: just been really enjoying all the interaction and in the

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Speaker 8: support of everybody has been amazing.

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Speaker 1: What what what?

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Speaker 5: What? Like?

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Speaker 2: For instance, is the fun part of the equation? I

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Speaker 2: mean like light bulb moments where somebody says something and

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Speaker 2: then they get pushed back and then it like all

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Speaker 2: comes together that that would seem to be fun.

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Speaker 8: It's more like this, like I'm looking at Jeff Anderson

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Speaker 8: right now, and I'm looking at to shoes in the

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Speaker 8: length of his pants, and I'm just like, what you're

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Speaker 8: doing today. You're at the league meetings, you're down in Arizona.

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Speaker 8: You're supposed to be looking the part, and you know,

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Speaker 8: it's just it's more about having fun with people and

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Speaker 8: laughing and you know, you know that's that's that's what

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Speaker 8: we like to do. So that's what I mean from

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Speaker 8: a fun standpoint.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, with the leader of the communications department, Jeff Anderson.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you started it, so I'm just going to

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Speaker 2: finish him. While you were talking, I found myself googling

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Speaker 2: Hammer Made stores in Scottsdale.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, and we can get some of.

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Speaker 2: Those straight those nice straight legs slacks and those tight

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Speaker 2: shirts and everything. But hey, i haven't felt my ribs

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Speaker 2: in thirty years, so I'm envious of how he's put

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Speaker 2: time into his body.

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Speaker 5: Oh you're the best man. That's funny.

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Speaker 2: All right, later, brother, have a great time and I'll

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Speaker 2: see you when you get back here.

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Speaker 8: Okay, Yeah, thanks for having me. Take care guys.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, see him. That's Rob Razinski.

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Speaker 2: He's the executive vice president of Football operations for your

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Speaker 2: Minnesota Vikings. Also the acting general manager from the NFL

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Speaker 2: owners meetings and Kevin O'Connell, head coach of the team,

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Speaker 2: joins about fifteen minutes from now. Nordo Produces and I'm

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Speaker 2: Paul Allen, Happy Monday. This is nine to now.