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Speaker 5: I've been retired for ten years and I can tell

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Speaker 7: Just wanted to congratulate the listeners. We're up to sixty

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Speaker 7: I can, well I can, And here's how. If you

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Speaker 7: Our medicaid spend is forty five billions. Our public schools

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Speaker 7: I would vote to take the fraud out and scutch

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Speaker 1: It is assuming that amount of fraud is out there

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Speaker 1: No, You're right, That's why we have you Jay, to

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Speaker 7: You gotta be would one hundred percent agree? And so

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Speaker 7: Jay, who elected them to speak for all of us?

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Speaker 1: Well, nobody but everybody. You know, it's just kind of

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Speaker 8: Oh that's just good stuff. I know, I know. I

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Speaker 1: Yeah that'll work. Yeah, he's on that right now.

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Speaker 8: Football tax. That's one of the better ones that I've

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Speaker 9: It's true.

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Speaker 8: It is true. We are spending it in orderate amounts

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Speaker 1: I just have those, you know from Jay's comments. Well,

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, property tax is eliminated. How are we

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Speaker 1: going to fund fill in the black? Thanks? Hmmm, well,

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Speaker 1: let's look at this program. Let's look at that program.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, let us look at the billions of

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Speaker 1: dollars that we are spending that we shouldn't be spending.

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Speaker 1: Let's put it in our pocket and then fund these things.

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Speaker 1: We no longer have property, that's the fund. Maybe that's

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Speaker 1: the moment of desperation that will bring us about to

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Speaker 1: some form of a greater oversight which seems to be

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Speaker 1: in desperate need across every corner of government in the

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Speaker 1: entire United States. Where in the hell is the oversight?

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Speaker 1: How much money do you spend on non or on

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Speaker 1: these on these non governmental organization we talk about the

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Speaker 1: city of Cincinnati. They get millions and millions of dollars.

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Speaker 1: What did they do with it? The original DOGE work

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Speaker 1: going after all these USA programs, What did they do

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Speaker 1: with the money? It says they're going to cure I

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Speaker 1: don't know, herpes among transgender prostitutes in China or something

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Speaker 1: did it? We don't know. Nobody followed up, Bobby, Welcome

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Speaker 1: to the Morning Show, and a happy Tuesday to.

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Speaker 6: You by family in the firearms, my friend, I mean,

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Speaker 6: we've had six shootings downtown and they've only reported four

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Speaker 6: of them.

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Speaker 1: Fair enough.

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Speaker 6: I've got to repeat something I've discussed a long time ago.

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Speaker 3: The seventy two hour window.

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Speaker 6: People are not prepared when the power goes out and

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Speaker 6: the water stops. What are you going to do after

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Speaker 6: the first three days, because if you're not prepared, you'll

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Speaker 6: never be able to get prepared.

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Speaker 1: Good question, even around federal government on federal websites, says

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Speaker 1: you need to have at least three days worth of

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Speaker 1: supplies in your house. There's your seventy two hour window. Bobby,

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Speaker 1: what about day four or five or six?

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Speaker 6: People aren't prepared? My friend, I got one thing to say,

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Speaker 6: and this sums it up. They talk about the taxes,

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Speaker 6: and it's real simple. You want to talk about the waste,

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Speaker 6: Go down to any job and family service office and

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Speaker 6: just walk in there and sit down for a while,

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Speaker 6: and you'll see exactly what the problems are. Efficiency grifters,

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Speaker 6: same place, same people. It's not going to change until

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Speaker 6: you change the faces, and it's not going to change,

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Speaker 6: and we're not going to be able to change the faces.

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Speaker 6: Every city in the in the state of Ohio is

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Speaker 6: run by Democratic mayors, Democratic city councils, all of them.

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Speaker 6: But they're all surrounded by conservatives. Why are we still

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Speaker 6: feeding them?

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Speaker 1: Well, it's a good question, I guess I've had many

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Speaker 1: of my friends, as Steve, you're out there listening wondering,

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Speaker 1: for example, why Donald Trump is insisting on rescuing and

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Speaker 1: saving the democratic cities from themselves in the rampant crime.

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Speaker 1: Let them go, Let them die on their own policies

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Speaker 1: and platforms. Don't send the National Guard in. Yah, they're suffering.

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Speaker 1: Let them continue to suffer. I understand that you can

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Speaker 1: view that as a broader, perhaps solution to the challenges

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Speaker 1: we face collectively.

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Speaker 6: In the state of Ohio. We have eighty eight counties.

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Speaker 6: Ten percent are run by Democrats, but that ten takes

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Speaker 6: care of fifty percent of the voting block. Yeah, why

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Speaker 6: do we keep supporting they're surrounded by conservatives? Quit spending

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Speaker 6: the money, and quit feeding the pig. That's it.

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Speaker 1: Well, Bobby's final solution cut off the money, so viable

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Speaker 1: solution there, Bobby, I guess, Ted, welcome to the morning show,

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Speaker 1: Happy Tuesday. If you can make it one.

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Speaker 9: The Ohio Lottery when they sold that to us.

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Speaker 10: The.

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Speaker 1: Good go ahead. I'm sorry, Yeah, you're.

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Speaker 11: Right checked into how much?

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Speaker 1: How much does the High Lottery take into do we

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Speaker 1: even know that? I think your cell phone died. Ted,

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Speaker 1: I'm not hearing anything from you, but it's a great point.

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Speaker 1: Just mentioning the High Lottery obviously caused me to break

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Speaker 1: into laughter. That was the solution to our school funding issues,

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Speaker 1: wasn't it right? Five forty five if Carcity talks station,

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Speaker 1: feel free to call save me from myself. I'll be

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Speaker 1: right back.

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Speaker 12: Fifty five krc the talk station Buffalo five forty nine

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Speaker 12: here for the five KRCD talk station, Happy Tuesday.

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Speaker 1: Try to make it one anyway. I'm mentioned at the

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Speaker 1: outside of the program. I'm struggling a little bit this morning,

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Speaker 1: feeling extremely for whatever reason, dizzy and off balance. It's

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Speaker 1: kind of impacting my mind in the way it's working

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Speaker 1: this morning. I don't know why I'm feeling this way,

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Speaker 1: but I am so. I'm on record, so you can

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Speaker 1: at least maybe give me a pass this morning. Let's

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Speaker 1: gore to the phones, starting with Corey. Who's first in line, Cleveland.

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Speaker 1: I'll hang on brother, We'll get you next. Corey, thanks

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Speaker 1: for calling this morning, Good morning.

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Speaker 11: Haven't called in and for a little bit would this

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Speaker 11: morning calling from Saginaw, Michigan this morning, listening on the app.

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Speaker 1: Thank you.

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Speaker 11: But like Jays saying, I agree, get rid of the

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Speaker 11: property text. That'll force them to make cuts where they

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Speaker 11: need to. Governments bloated everywhere you look. Everything you see

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Speaker 11: is government bloat, and it will force them to get

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Speaker 11: their their house in order a little bit.

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Speaker 1: Uh yeah, by any government job.

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Speaker 11: You see any road project, why is it every time

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Speaker 11: they pave a road, a month later they come back

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Speaker 11: close it and then they put in new calverts and

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Speaker 11: they tear up what they just did. Little you see

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Speaker 11: little stuff like that everywhere all the time. And US

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Speaker 11: government programs they got to they got to spend the

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Speaker 11: money or they don't get it next year. So they

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Speaker 11: got to spend more. That way they get more money

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Speaker 11: the following year.

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Speaker 1: Most notably in the federal government level. Absolutely, the federal

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Speaker 1: government is just awful along those lines. Yeah, spend it, spendet,

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Speaker 1: hurry up and spend it. We're not going to get

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Speaker 1: the same amount or not or more next year. It's crazy, crazy, yep.

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Speaker 11: The whole system's built to take more and more and

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Speaker 11: more and more and make everybody dependent upon the government, Yes, sir, government.

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Speaker 1: And the fulfillment of Marxist stream erode and eradicate the

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Speaker 1: middle class, leaving just two classes out there so you

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Speaker 1: can gage in a perpetual class warfare argument and then

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Speaker 1: bring down those that make the most money and actually

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Speaker 1: employ people. Right. Yeah, there you have it, Cory, you

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Speaker 1: summed it up.

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Speaker 3: Man.

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Speaker 1: It's good to hear from your brother. Don't be a

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Speaker 1: stranger here on the morning show Cleveland. Now, welcome man,

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Speaker 1: it's good to hear from this morning.

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Speaker 9: Good morning. I just wanted to quickly piggyback on what

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Speaker 9: Bobby said about cutting off the spigot. I think we

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Speaker 9: need to be reminded that there was a very famous

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Speaker 9: libertarian who wrote a book and ran actually wrote several

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Speaker 9: books about exactly what we're talking about. And I think

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Speaker 9: we all need to become John Galt and basically quit.

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Speaker 9: I like, that's that's my comment for the day.

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Speaker 1: Thank you.

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Speaker 9: As Tom says, don't vote Democrat, Rhino.

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Speaker 1: Thank you. Appreciate you bringing I ran up to the top. Yes,

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Speaker 1: who is John gold Atlas Strug? You should probably read it,

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Speaker 1: although I will point out that there is a very

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Speaker 1: very extraordinarily overly long winded speech, yes, the radio speech

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Speaker 1: in the book that I just every time I've read

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Speaker 1: that book, my eyes just where it's like, Hi, come on,

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Speaker 1: did you really need to go on for four hundred

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Speaker 1: pages or whatever on this? Anyway, you've read the book,

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Speaker 1: you know exactly what I'm talking about. Love it hated

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Speaker 1: It's I think it's a really great book, and that

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Speaker 1: whole fantasy land. Also, I don't know, did you need

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Speaker 1: to go there? Anyway? We go to the stack of

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Speaker 1: stupid taco bell not a fan. There is a event

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Speaker 1: in Denver. It is called the International Taco Bell fifty

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Speaker 1: k Ultra Marathon. Fifty k translates into thirty one miles

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Speaker 1: described as loop through Denver, including men datory stops, mandatory

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Speaker 1: at ten taco bells. You must order to compete in

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Speaker 1: this event. Successfully, you have to order something at nine

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Speaker 1: out of the ten taco bells, and you actually have

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Speaker 1: to eat the food food specifically including one Chaloupa Supreme.

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Speaker 1: Don't even have any idea. What the hell that is?

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Speaker 1: It's a made up thing. I know, Joe, that's exactly

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Speaker 1: what the sound effect was in my mind, or same

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Speaker 1: sound effect. One crunch Wrap Supreme, so you got a

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Speaker 1: Chilupa Supreme and a crunch trapp Supreme by the fourth stop,

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Speaker 1: and then one Burrito Supreme hit it or one Nacho's

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Speaker 1: Bell Grande by the eighth stop. You have to finish

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Speaker 1: the thirty one miles within eleven hours. You need to

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Speaker 1: keep your receipts. Drinks do not count as food, and

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Speaker 1: that's in quotes from the instructions they say. Obviously challenging

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Speaker 1: for the digestive system, but you must keep it down.

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Speaker 1: There is a zero tolerance policy for expelling the eating food.

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Speaker 1: The eating food as much as you might want to

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Speaker 1: expel whatever the hell at Chilupa Supreme is so no vomiting.

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Speaker 1: If you do, you're immediately disqualified and you're not allowed

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Speaker 1: to take stomach medicines like pepto, pepsid ac et cetera.

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Speaker 13: I don't make the.

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Speaker 7: Rules, ma'am.

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Speaker 13: I just think them up and write them down.

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Speaker 1: You are able to use the bathroom as much as

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Speaker 1: you like, but you can only use Taco Bell restrooms.

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Speaker 1: Taco Bell fifty K now when it's eighth year just

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Speaker 1: happened over the weekend. No winners yet been announced. They

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Speaker 1: were expecting around six hundred participants for the record. Taco

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Speaker 1: Bell is not affiliated in any way, shape or form

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Speaker 1: of the event and will not comment on it. But

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Speaker 1: the organizers say they believe that's probably because of their

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Speaker 1: legal department. You know, if they endorse it, then maybe

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Speaker 1: they're going to be liable. And I certainly understand that

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Speaker 1: because fifty five CASEE listener lunches are not sanctioned, but

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Speaker 1: of course they enjoy the publicity. Taco Bell. Wow, I

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Speaker 1: remember the last time I was at a Taco Bell.

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Speaker 1: Not a good experience. Five point fifty five five parisee

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Speaker 1: the talk station stick around more coming out. I've got

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Speaker 1: plenty of talk about in the six o'clock hour, and

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Speaker 1: again desperately pleading for your calls this morning. I am

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Speaker 1: not here, I really am not. I'll be right back.

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Speaker 12: Today's tough headlines coming up at the six oh six

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Speaker 12: fifty five KR see the talk station.

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Speaker 1: By the time, I was wishing your money. Very happy Tuesday.

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Speaker 1: I hope you're having a better one than I am,

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Speaker 1: and again, apologies. I started out this morning show letting

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Speaker 1: you know I am not. I'm not playing with a

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Speaker 1: full deck of cards this morning. I don't know what's

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Speaker 1: wrong with me, and thank you Rick for telling me

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Speaker 1: I should probably get checked out at the er. I

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Speaker 1: don't feel sick. I just feel really, really, really like dizzy.

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Speaker 1: And I just asked Joe Strecker, this is the end

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Speaker 1: of my nineteenth year in radio. I'll be twenty years

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Speaker 1: in radio next year. I have I don't think I've

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Speaker 1: ever taken a sick day, and this morning I would

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Speaker 1: have called a red flag on it if I thought, well,

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Speaker 1: I felt like I would be letting Joe Strecker down.

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Speaker 1: What the hell do you do when the host of

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Speaker 1: the fifty five carsset morning he just calls in and

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Speaker 1: says he's not going to make it a work today anyway.

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Speaker 1: Apologies in advance. That's why I'm kind of a I

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Speaker 1: don't want to sound like a desperate plea for phone callers,

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Speaker 1: but I'm struggling with my cognitive abilities this morning. So

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Speaker 1: five one, three, seven, four, nine, fifty five hundred, eight

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Speaker 1: hundred and eighty two three talk with Tom five fifty

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Speaker 1: on at and T phones. Terrible time for my wife

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Speaker 1: to be out of town on a business trip. Anyway,

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Speaker 1: these shutdown continues, we'll point that out. Coming up in

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Speaker 1: the fifty five Carsite morning show, Ken cober FLP President's

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Speaker 1: seven oh five, we'll talk about downtown safet. We've got

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Speaker 1: a couple of shootings at the City Bird. We have

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Speaker 1: comments from AFTAB Parvoll on law enforcement. I guess he's

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Speaker 1: acknowledging we really do have a crime problem. Now welcome

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Speaker 1: to reality. AFTAB Parvoll operable comments. Well, alternative comments with

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Speaker 1: Corey Bowman, an alternative to a have to have parvall as.

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Speaker 1: Since we're in open voting right now, go ahead and vote.

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Speaker 1: So we'll talk about downtown safety with Ken Cobra A

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Speaker 1: couple up with seven oh five, follow by Aaron Weiner

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Speaker 1: Charter Committee Canada for Sinceay City Council. He's got a

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Speaker 1: plan for the CINCINNT Police Department. We'll find out how

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Speaker 1: the campaign's going. Fast forward to eight oh five Insights

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Speaker 1: Scoop with Bright Bart News Today we get the White

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Speaker 1: House correspondent Nick Gilbertson to talk about the Middle East

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Speaker 1: peace and Trump's victory so far. Keep your popcorn out.

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Speaker 1: It ain't over till the fat Lady sings and no

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Speaker 1: fat ladies singing yet. We'll get the Daniel Davis Deep

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Speaker 1: Dive with the latest on the Middle East piece as

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Speaker 1: well as rushing Ukraine and oder Exit. My friend Deb

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Speaker 1: from Otero Exit will join the program. Talk about that

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Speaker 1: at the end of the eight o'clock hour. Real quick here, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: just a couple of observations of the government shutdown and

668
00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:53,640
Speaker 1: we're still shut down. A nod to Day this morning

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Speaker 1: for keeping track of how much money we're saving with

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Speaker 1: the government being shut down. So Trump took care of

671
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Speaker 1: the pressure point that was the military funding over the weekend.

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Speaker 1: Apparently he's shifting money to make sure our military members

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Speaker 1: will not miss a paycheck tomorrow. A little bit of

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Speaker 1: relief there. We of course have him moving forward with

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Speaker 1: layoffs to the Office of Management and Budget, which he

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Speaker 1: promised he would do. And state of flux concerning where

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Speaker 1: we're going right now. No sign that rank and file

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Speaker 1: Senate Democrats are going to capitulate. You only need five

679
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Speaker 1: of them to turn the government back on. But no

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Speaker 1: sign that the rate to flip. So what are we

681
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Speaker 1: looking for? The ultimate pressure point? The November first launch

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Speaker 1: of open enrollment for the Affordable Care Act. Democrats are

683
00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:41,879
Speaker 1: waiting for the pain now and correct me if I'm wrong.

684
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Speaker 1: My understanding is one point five million people are going

685
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Speaker 1: to be affected by the cutoff of subsidies for Obamacare.

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Speaker 1: We live in a nation of three hundred and forty

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Speaker 1: or so million people, so that's a rather small segment

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Speaker 1: of the population. I know they probably will vote, but

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Speaker 1: is it really I mean, are we holding hostage a

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Speaker 1: vast majority of American people in connection with this subsidy? No,

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Speaker 1: of course we're not so waiting for the November first

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Speaker 1: to open roll, but that means constituents, Oh my god,

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Speaker 1: I'm not getting a tax credit anymore this year. So

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Speaker 1: the small segment of people making north of four hundred

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Speaker 1: percent of poverty level are no longer going to get

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Speaker 1: their premium subsidized. Is that going to really amount to

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Speaker 1: some sort of massive revolt against Republicans. I don't see

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Speaker 1: it personally, but this is where we are. So wait

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Speaker 1: for the pain to hit, Wait for the phones to

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Speaker 1: start ringing. Senator Rubin Golego, Democrat at Arizona. The closer

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Speaker 1: to November first, a lot of selected officials are going

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Speaker 1: to start hearing from their what else are they waiting for? Well,

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Speaker 1: they're waiting shut down to inflict pain upon you. You're flying

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Speaker 1: an airplane. Yeah. CENA Majority leader John Thune pointed out

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Speaker 1: wait waiting for the shutdowns impact on air travels, saying

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Speaker 1: it's one way the senators, in his words, might start

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Speaker 1: to feel that a little bit personal.

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Speaker 14: HM.

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Speaker 1: Senator Dick Durbin separately noted last week how air traffic

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Speaker 1: controllers were a driving factor in the last shutdown. Ooh,

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Speaker 1: the American people are going to be able to fly,

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Speaker 1: So let's make them feel that pain and force the

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Speaker 1: Republicans to capitulate and offer these north of four hundred

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Speaker 1: percent of the poverty level subsidies to continue, as well

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Speaker 1: as make eligible a whole lot of illegal immigrants. Yes,

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Speaker 1: there's that in the background as well. And the other

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Speaker 1: component of this is kind of comical. I think it's

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Speaker 1: comical personally. Now, the House approved extension, the continuing Resolution

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Speaker 1: was passed in the House that keeps government funding levels

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Speaker 1: of the Biden era level right that expires November twenty first,

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Speaker 1: right before Thanksgiving. But the more we TikTok TikTok in

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Speaker 1: a shutdown. The closer November twenty twenty first comes and

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Speaker 1: the House being in recess means apparently they're not working

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Speaker 1: on the appropriations bill, which is the point of the

725
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Speaker 1: continuing resolution. We've got to get the twelve appropriations bill done.

726
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Speaker 1: We need a continuing resolution to keep funding levels at

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Speaker 1: the same rate as last year so we can get

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Speaker 1: the work done that we have been well charged with

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Speaker 1: doing since the beginning of the fiscal year. Go ahead

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Speaker 1: and make fun of every one of them for not

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Speaker 1: getting that work done in advance of any deadline. They

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Speaker 1: need a deadline to force them into exactly what we're

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Speaker 1: doing right now. It's a big game they play every year,

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Speaker 1: usually ending up with an omnibus spending bill that increases

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Speaker 1: the amount of federal spending insanely and also includes a

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Speaker 1: whole bunch of things that Rhinos as well as Democrats

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Speaker 1: throw in there to well pad the books in their

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Speaker 1: own state. So now they're talking about maybe extending that

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Speaker 1: deadline in a new bill into well just before Christmas,

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Speaker 1: just before Christmas, because of course every lot he's got

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Speaker 1: to go home for Christmas. This is just ridiculous, absolutely ridiculous.

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Speaker 1: Let's go to the phone and see what Dennis has got. Dennis,

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Speaker 1: thanks for calling this morning. I truly appreciate hearing from you.

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Speaker 3: I'm sorry to hear that you're feeling the way you are.

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00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:17,080
Speaker 3: A couple of things going around that you know, you

746
00:43:17,120 --> 00:43:21,799
Speaker 3: want to have your your physician look at your sinuses,

747
00:43:21,880 --> 00:43:26,359
Speaker 3: head and ears, and they if your equilibrium is off

748
00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:30,560
Speaker 3: and you're feeling kind of punk, it's probably going to

749
00:43:30,600 --> 00:43:33,280
Speaker 3: have something to do with that. Maybe it's a bug

750
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Speaker 3: going around and we've got to put up with it

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Speaker 3: in the usual things that public health and medical policy

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Speaker 3: ignore what putting us through this craft.

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Speaker 1: That's in my own personal health. I do not feel congested.

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Speaker 1: I don't feel I mean, I don't feel ill at all,

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Speaker 1: except I'm just walking around. I'm just kind of like

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Speaker 1: off balance and I just feel out of sorts. It's

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Speaker 1: just the weird. It's the strangest thing, man, And I

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Speaker 1: hate to even ament on air that I'm feeling this way.

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Speaker 1: I'm just trying to give people an explanation for why

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Speaker 1: and maybe sell like an idiot this morning. So I

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Speaker 1: appreciate it.

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Speaker 3: Well, yeah, I have him to do a blood work

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Speaker 3: up on you and make sure your platele account's good.

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Speaker 1: And I just had that done. My cancer doctor just

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Speaker 1: did that about a week ago and everything was great.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I got an outstanding report for my cancer doctors.

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Speaker 1: So unless things have changed in the last seven days

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Speaker 1: or so, uh, it's not that. So I'm at a loss, sir,

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Speaker 1: I really am.

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Speaker 3: Well, I'll say, if you know, not to make too

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Speaker 3: fine a point on it, but that's why God made bourbon,

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Speaker 3: so I have got it too.

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Speaker 1: It's like the way I feel right now, I feel

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Speaker 1: like I've been drinking bourbon. That's it's sort of a

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Speaker 1: drunken feeling. Anyway, go ahead, Dennis. I know you didn't

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Speaker 1: call to talk about that.

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Speaker 3: Well, actually I did, but that's the pretest. Hey, let

778
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Speaker 3: me go back to what we're having here in Hamilton

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Speaker 3: County as we've had a complete takeover of the government

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Speaker 3: by the by the idiots and the maniacs. And one

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Speaker 3: of the things that happened in the past five years

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Speaker 3: is the complete shifts in the way that elections are conducted.

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Speaker 3: And some of it's above the rows and some of

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Speaker 3: it's beneath the rose, meaning that some of it was

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Speaker 3: done openly, but almost all of it was an agenda

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Speaker 3: that was designed to subvert the ability of the voters

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Speaker 3: at large to have a significant influence over there of

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Speaker 3: our environment. And one that I ran across which was

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Speaker 3: really interesting, and it was the way that the last

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Speaker 3: election in twenty twenty four was rigged locally, and it

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Speaker 3: had to do with a smudge, just a tiny, tiny

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Speaker 3: little smudge over CONNYE. Pillach's box on the ballot. This

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Speaker 3: is just one example, but it happened with such frequency

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Speaker 3: while I, myself and my wife were standing there in

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Speaker 3: the Board of Elections getting our ballots counted, and then

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Speaker 3: it became pretty evident the computer program was printing an

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Speaker 3: almost invisible smudge over Connie Pillage's box in the ballot,

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Speaker 3: and what that would do is that if you voted

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Speaker 3: for her Republican opposition, it would kick the ballot. And

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Speaker 3: then the posts of the Board of Elections employees were

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Speaker 3: telling people to just oh, let it go. The rest

802
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Speaker 3: of your ballot'll count. And what they did was is

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Speaker 3: it rigged a significant shift in the count for the

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Speaker 3: Prosecutor's office to the Democrat side. And the consequences of

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Speaker 3: that are being evident right now. With the total restriction

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Speaker 3: on the ability of police officers to get a warrant

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Speaker 3: issued for somebody, everything has to go through the prosecutor's office.

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Speaker 1: Well, Dennis, I got to be honest with you, I

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Speaker 1: have never heard anybody, and I've got a lot of

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Speaker 1: folks on the listening audience that are really keen on

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Speaker 1: election fraud and all this. No one has ever mentioned

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Speaker 1: what you're talking about this morning. I don't know where

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Speaker 1: you got the information of your personal experience, but as

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Speaker 1: far as it's being a widespread phenomenon, this is the

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Speaker 1: first time I've ever heard of it. So I have

816
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Speaker 1: to let you know that right of here, because I

817
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Speaker 1: have never heard anything to that effect.

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Speaker 3: It's firsthand. I witnessed it directly. And the interest, how do.

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Speaker 1: You draw the conclusion it was pervasive though you said

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Speaker 1: you saw it firsthand, but then you extrapolate that into

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Speaker 1: it being a pervasive problem. I don't know how any

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Speaker 1: one individual can be aware of it being a pervasive

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Speaker 1: problem real easily.

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Speaker 3: While I was getting my ballot reprocessed number one, the

825
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Speaker 3: ballot was marked across and the evidence was destroyed, torn

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Speaker 3: up right in front of me. I got a new ballot,

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Speaker 3: went back to the same voting machine, and while I

828
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Speaker 3: was getting mine replaced, a young lady was trying to

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Speaker 3: get her processed and counted exactly the same problem, the

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Speaker 3: smudge on the ballot that caused the count to go

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Speaker 3: to pillage, and she was advised, all the rest of

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Speaker 3: your ballot will count, just to go. She had to

833
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Speaker 3: make it the work, and she let the ballot go through.

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Speaker 3: And that occurred while the half hour forty minute period

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Speaker 3: involved my presence in front of the ballot counting machine.

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Speaker 3: Jack directly witnessed, the directly witnessed the election bias that

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Speaker 3: was there and the destruction of my ballot when it

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Speaker 3: should have been kept as evidence.

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Speaker 1: Well, did you bring it to the attention of the

840
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Speaker 1: folks that were there, like the Republican side of those

841
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Speaker 1: that were monitoring the ballots of the election officials? I mean,

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Speaker 1: did you bring it raise awareness to everybody in the

843
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Speaker 1: room like this is going on? I mean, these problems,

844
00:48:41,480 --> 00:48:43,920
Speaker 1: if you see them, need to be elevated immediately to

845
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Speaker 1: everybody's attention. That is, both sides of the political equation

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00:48:48,640 --> 00:48:52,200
Speaker 1: who are there monitoring the integrity of the ballot. Other

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Speaker 1: than that, I have no way of Again, I can't

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Speaker 1: even comment on what you're saying because I've never heard

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Speaker 1: it before, So I appreciate what you're saying, Dennis, but

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Speaker 1: I mean somebody's got to bring this to everybody's attention.

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Speaker 1: I mean, here in the morning show in October of

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty five, you're raising for the first time that

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Speaker 1: I've ever heard something that happened in November of twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty four. So we got a big window here, and

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Speaker 1: I'm kind of scratching my head over how this has

856
00:49:18,280 --> 00:49:21,359
Speaker 1: remained beneath everybody's radar. I appreciate the call, Dennis. I'm

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Speaker 1: not saying that you're lying. I'm just saying I've never

858
00:49:23,840 --> 00:49:27,640
Speaker 1: heard it before. That doesn't mean it didn't happen. That's

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Speaker 1: why we need people with loud voices to raise it.

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Speaker 1: Dairly's attention got to run. It's six nineteen right now,

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Speaker 1: fifty five ko City Talk Station. You got nagging joint pain? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that one that's keeping you well from enjoying. We're going

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Speaker 1: straight to the phone, six twenty four to fifty five

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Speaker 1: Karo City Talk Station, Alan, thanks for calling this morning.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the show.

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Speaker 15: Hey there, Sorry you're feeling kind of yucky. I just

867
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Speaker 15: wanted to share with I just wanted to share with

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Speaker 15: you I have a condition to call positional vertigo, and

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Speaker 15: my understanding is that there's small little crystals in the

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Speaker 15: inner ear that help us to know where we are

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Speaker 15: in the world. Is to get older, this crystals could

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Speaker 15: get out of position. To call it a so called

873
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Speaker 15: room spinning type of feeling. If you can do you

874
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Speaker 15: can do a Google Google position with vertigo to see

875
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Speaker 15: if the symptoms sound like what you're experiencing. There are

876
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Speaker 15: YouTube videos and how to diagnose yourself and some simple

877
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Speaker 15: exercises you can do at home to get the crystals

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Speaker 15: back into position. But it's kind of a cronic condition.

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Speaker 15: Once you start getting it, it keeps on coming back every

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Speaker 15: so often.

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Speaker 1: There's this positional vertigo, right.

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Speaker 15: It has a longer name than that, but that's the

883
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Speaker 15: short cut version.

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Speaker 2: Okay.

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Speaker 15: Also, you can also see an E.

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Speaker 3: And T doctor.

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Speaker 15: They are actually the ones who can determine that because

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Speaker 15: they do with the inner ear. That's because there's the

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Speaker 15: actual physical thing going on in there. It's not the

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Speaker 15: same as just being like regular dizzy. This is actually

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Speaker 15: your The fact, the way they test it is your

892
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Speaker 15: eyes shake back and forth like you're in a washing

893
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Speaker 15: machine going really really fast.

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Speaker 1: Well, fortunately I am not exhibiting that syndrome right now,

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Speaker 1: but I am feeling the Disney compart. That's why I said,

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Speaker 1: maybe it's an inner ear problem or something. And I

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Speaker 1: don't feel like I have any allergies. To uh Alisa

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Speaker 1: who just emailed me or facebooked me, you know, I

899
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Speaker 1: don't feel like I got allergies. I don't know what

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Speaker 1: the issue is. It's weird, Alan, That's all I can tay.

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Speaker 1: But I will look up positional vertigo and I hope

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Speaker 1: I don't have it because this is this is an

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Speaker 1: onset of some new phenomenon this morning. I'm really I'm

904
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Speaker 1: spaced out right now. It just kind of weird. Thank you, sir.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate the concern. If I have care, see the

906
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Speaker 1: talk station. Thanks to the last caller, I just learned

907
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Speaker 1: what the Epley maneuver is. Yeah, oh, apparently I may

908
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Speaker 1: have that condition he described. Yeah, positional vertigo. That sounds

909
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Speaker 1: like exactly what I got, man. I appreciate the heads

910
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Speaker 1: up on that. I will I'll do the Epley maneuver

911
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Speaker 1: when I got a moment in time to do it.

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Speaker 1: Let's go to the phones five one, three, seven, two

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Speaker 1: three Talk Cribbage Mike my submariner friend. Congratulations and happy

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Speaker 1: anniversary to you. The Navy celebrated its two hundred and

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Speaker 1: fiftieth year anniversary yesterday.

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Speaker 3: Thank you, Brian.

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Speaker 14: And then, you know, if I could, I would bring

918
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Speaker 14: my board down to the studio right now for a

919
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Speaker 14: therapeutic game of cribbage. I'm sure that would just bring

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Speaker 14: you right around.

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Speaker 1: Oh that's what you need me at a disadvantage. Is

922
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Speaker 1: that what you're saying since I beat you again last time?

923
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Speaker 1: Huh huh huh.

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Speaker 14: I didn't even look at it that way.

925
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Speaker 1: Oh sure you didn't.

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Speaker 14: Hey, I'm not a doctor and I don't play one

927
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Speaker 14: on TV. But you know the symptoms that you described

928
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Speaker 14: where you're having cognitive abilities and you're a little dizzy

929
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Speaker 14: and you're not thinking straight. I recommend you go directly

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Speaker 14: home because if you are seen out in public, you

931
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Speaker 14: may be mistaken for a democrat.

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Speaker 1: Is is this in my head what they feel like

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Speaker 1: all the time?

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Speaker 14: I got twenty four seven Joe Biden reels there you go.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well maybe you've stumbled upon Well now I have

936
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Speaker 1: a better understanding of the opposition.

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Speaker 14: Little empathy, little empathy, appreciate it. Yes, Hey, So along

938
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Speaker 14: with the Navy, and our good friend Joe Strucker's birthday. Yesterday,

939
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Speaker 14: a lot of us had the pleasure of celebrating the

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Speaker 14: one hundred and second birthday in Anderson Township of mister

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Speaker 14: Hank Marsham. He's a World War Two for me veteran,

942
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Speaker 14: and the assisted living Facility put on a phenomenal celebration

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Speaker 14: for him. The placeless packed, the Anderson Fire and police

944
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Speaker 14: were there. We had an Army color guard. We had

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Speaker 14: two representatives from the Hamilton County Pipers, and you know,

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Speaker 14: I'm a sucker for a bagpipe.

947
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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 14: They played very patriotic music and one of the trustees

949
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Speaker 14: was there to make it Hank marsh On day and

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Speaker 14: Anderson Township. That's great and it reminded me so much

951
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Speaker 14: when we celebrated Bob Dulin's hundred and fifth and this

952
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Speaker 14: Hank yesterday. I got a chance to talk to him,

953
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Speaker 14: sharp as attack. He would give you a run for

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Speaker 14: your money today, let.

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Speaker 1: Me tell you well, and pretty much anybody can, but

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Speaker 1: not to discount Hank. I will give credit to Bob

957
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Speaker 1: Wetter out there, mister humanitarian himself, the guy that's responsible

958
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Speaker 1: for the wistory. He's the one that sent me a

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Speaker 1: picture of Hank yesterday and told me it was Hank's

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Speaker 1: hundred and second birthday. So I did mention it once

961
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Speaker 1: on the Morning show yesterday.

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Speaker 14: I'm glad that's got the word out, and I know

963
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Speaker 14: the assistant living facility did a lot, and really the

964
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Speaker 14: place was packed and it was kind of a surprise

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Speaker 14: when they wheeled him in and we all sang Happy

966
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Speaker 14: birthday and just you know, that's you know, you get

967
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Speaker 14: days like that, and of course it can't beat the

968
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Speaker 14: news of what happened in Israel yesterday, but with all

969
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Speaker 14: the other muck that you unfortunately have to report every day,

970
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Speaker 14: you know, events like that, and I can't help but

971
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Speaker 14: tag in two weeks we have our last honor flight

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Speaker 14: for twenty twenty five on October twenty eighth. You know,

973
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Speaker 14: you know what that's like. And that was just a

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Speaker 14: little snippet of it yesterday, celebrating this greatest generation and

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Speaker 14: a true patriot.

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Speaker 1: That's great, And you know what, I can't thank you enough,

977
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Speaker 1: Mike for calling in reminding folks about that. I'm always

978
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Speaker 1: searching for, you know, wonderful things and little miracles that

979
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Speaker 1: happened in the world that we quite often we overlook

980
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Speaker 1: and the fact that he lived that long, that he

981
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Speaker 1: served his country. I saw the picture of him when

982
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Speaker 1: he enlisted. God, he looked like he was twelve years old.

983
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Speaker 3: I mean exactly.

984
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Speaker 2: He was a kid.

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Speaker 1: I mean a genuine kid. Yeah. Just and you know,

986
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Speaker 1: for everybody who's supported him and showed up for the

987
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Speaker 1: event yesterday, and you know, to Pappis and Bob Wetter

988
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Speaker 1: and you, thank you very much for for acknowledging Hank.

989
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Speaker 1: And I appreciate you, Hank, for your service to our country.

990
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Speaker 1: And God bless you, sir. That's wonderful.

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Speaker 7: It.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate it, I really do. Mike, thanks very much.

993
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Speaker 1: Feel I appreciate that too. I'm hoping I will with

994
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Speaker 1: the Epply maneuver as soon as I get a break

995
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Speaker 1: real quick. Here police Department said. The responded they responded

996
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Speaker 1: to a report of a shooting in Westwood. Oh this

997
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Speaker 1: never happens in Dowtown. Cincinnati Officer's dispatch to wes Knowles

998
00:55:33,760 --> 00:55:38,000
Speaker 1: Lane yesterday and Westwood reports of a person shot. Officers

999
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Speaker 1: on the scene perform CPR on the victim. No further

1000
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Speaker 1: details available. A developing story, of course. We have the

1001
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Speaker 1: city bird shooting with a couple of people shot yesterday,

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Speaker 1: requiring a have to have purval to come out. Apparently acknowledge

1003
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Speaker 1: that we have a problem with gun violence in town. Hm,

1004
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Speaker 1: the violence continues, the recent violence and Fountain Square Government

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Speaker 1: Square is beyond the pale and intolerable, said Aftab parvall.

1006
00:56:02,840 --> 00:56:06,280
Speaker 1: I thought we had a peaceful, quiet community. This violence

1007
00:56:06,880 --> 00:56:09,000
Speaker 1: is in the literal heart of our downtown. We've been

1008
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Speaker 1: relentless with a litany of both police and non police interventions,

1009
00:56:12,360 --> 00:56:19,319
Speaker 1: and yet the violence continues. Huh, I thought there was

1010
00:56:19,360 --> 00:56:22,640
Speaker 1: nothing to see here. Isn't that the word that Aftab

1011
00:56:22,719 --> 00:56:25,759
Speaker 1: par of Ball put out earlier? Anyway, six thirty five

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Speaker 1: ffty five KR City Talk station. Feel free to call,

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1015
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Speaker 1: seventy six for the high, clear over night down to

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Speaker 1: fifty two, seventy one to high tomorrow again, Sonny. A

1018
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1019
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Speaker 1: for the high Thursday, along with clear skies fifty two.

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Speaker 16: Chuck Ingram on fifty five krs seat deep talk station.

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Speaker 1: Six forty here fifty five kr SEB talk station. World's

1031
00:57:26,040 --> 00:57:27,800
Speaker 1: in a bit of a subultory mood, seeing that we

1032
00:57:27,880 --> 00:57:30,960
Speaker 1: have some sort of at least movement toward peace and

1033
00:57:31,600 --> 00:57:35,080
Speaker 1: parlia Middle East anyway, everybody painfully aware of what's going

1034
00:57:35,160 --> 00:57:38,480
Speaker 1: on there and the idea we've got the hostages released

1035
00:57:38,720 --> 00:57:42,280
Speaker 1: last twenty living still waiting on the remains of the

1036
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Speaker 1: dead hostages, and of course Israel getting ready to release

1037
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Speaker 1: the Palestinian hostages. And Walter Mead had an interesting observation

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Speaker 1: about where we are on this yes, turning to and

1039
00:57:52,800 --> 00:57:55,400
Speaker 1: relying on and standing on the shoulder of giants this morning,

1040
00:57:55,400 --> 00:58:00,680
Speaker 1: given my mental health state, and I thought good, given

1041
00:58:00,720 --> 00:58:03,000
Speaker 1: by the standard of Donald Trump's larger than life. Second

1042
00:58:03,120 --> 00:58:06,880
Speaker 1: term October thirteenth looms large. He writes, released to the

1043
00:58:06,960 --> 00:58:10,640
Speaker 1: last living hostages from their inhumane and indefensible captivity. Trump's

1044
00:58:10,640 --> 00:58:15,400
Speaker 1: speech at the canness It and his presence shortly afterward

1045
00:58:15,440 --> 00:58:20,440
Speaker 1: in Charmel, Shake, Egypt, at a global summit that only

1046
00:58:20,520 --> 00:58:25,360
Speaker 1: he could convene were extraordinary. As much too soon to

1047
00:58:25,400 --> 00:58:27,720
Speaker 1: tell what that all means. Events are still moving quickly

1048
00:58:27,760 --> 00:58:30,160
Speaker 1: and it will be months or even years before the

1049
00:58:30,160 --> 00:58:33,200
Speaker 1: result could be fully assessed. But as joyful videos of

1050
00:58:33,240 --> 00:58:36,680
Speaker 1: hostages reuniting with their families flooded the Internet, we know

1051
00:58:36,880 --> 00:58:41,160
Speaker 1: five things about what just happened. The first, most obvious,

1052
00:58:41,320 --> 00:58:44,880
Speaker 1: the hostages are home. The dark cloud hanging over Israel

1053
00:58:44,920 --> 00:58:48,160
Speaker 1: and the Jewish people worldwide since the atrocity of October seventh,

1054
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Speaker 1: twenty three is lifted. There is mourning for the dead,

1055
00:58:52,200 --> 00:58:55,840
Speaker 1: horror at the survivor's suffering, and gratitude for the heroism

1056
00:58:55,920 --> 00:58:58,240
Speaker 1: of those who gave their lives in Israel's defense. After

1057
00:58:58,240 --> 00:59:01,400
Speaker 1: the attacks, the nightmare is over and the healing can begin.

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Speaker 1: The second is that only Trump could have made this happen.

1059
00:59:06,600 --> 00:59:09,800
Speaker 1: No other living politician could have reassured Israel threatened to

1060
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Speaker 1: most and passed together a broad Arab coalition the way

1061
00:59:13,680 --> 00:59:17,120
Speaker 1: he's done. Mister Trump has his shortcomings, and even he

1062
00:59:17,200 --> 00:59:19,440
Speaker 1: wonders if he will get into heaven. But he's a

1063
00:59:19,560 --> 00:59:24,120
Speaker 1: leader who bestrides the world seen like no other. Third

1064
00:59:24,960 --> 00:59:28,680
Speaker 1: Benjamin Nettyahoo has cemented his place in history of the

1065
00:59:28,760 --> 00:59:31,360
Speaker 1: Jewish people. He has his flaws and has made his

1066
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Speaker 1: share of costly mistakes, but the same can be said

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Speaker 1: of ancient leaders like Samson and David, as well as

1068
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Speaker 1: modern heroes like David Ben Jurian Go to My Air

1069
00:59:39,520 --> 00:59:44,120
Speaker 1: and Moishe Diane. Mister Netanyahu imposed his leadership on a

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Speaker 1: country that yearned to reject him, brought order to an

1071
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Speaker 1: unruly coalition, and combined flexibility of means with steadfastness of

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Speaker 1: purpose to bring Israel's greatest and most harrowing war to

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Speaker 1: a triumphant conclusion. Fourth stripe, Mister, Despite mister Trump's optimism,

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Speaker 1: the Middle East hasn't yet entered an era of peace.

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Speaker 1: That the summit in Shuramau Shak Egypt communicats will be signed,

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Speaker 1: But the core cause of the conflict hasn't been and

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Speaker 1: perhaps can't be resolved. The existence of a Jewish state

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Speaker 1: in the predominantly Muslim Middle East. Present East presents an

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Speaker 1: unendurable civilizational and religious affront to so many of the

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Speaker 1: region's population that Israel has had to become an armed

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Speaker 1: camp to survive. And the Israel Palestinian conflict is far

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Speaker 1: from the only one in Middle East. Ethnic and religious

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Speaker 1: tensions have ripped Syria and Lobanon apart. Chie hottest ideology

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Speaker 1: is resurgent in much of the region. Even so called

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Speaker 1: modern Islamism, as in recept Erdigon's Turkey, refuses to repudiate

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Speaker 1: groups like Kamas, you know, and looking at his five points,

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Speaker 1: that may be the core of everything right there religious

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Speaker 1: disputes which I will call childish fifth. While the Gods

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Speaker 1: Accords are President Trump's most spectacular triumph to date his

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Speaker 1: biggest international challenge. Why I had Hamas like its backers

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Speaker 1: in Iran, was and is a nihilistic force. It was

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Speaker 1: the enemy of every Arab government in the Middle East.

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Speaker 1: It had no positive program for the people it ruled,

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Speaker 1: and its political goals were utterly impractical. Its tactics, whereas

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Speaker 1: revolting as its methods, were brutal that a movement so

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Speaker 1: deranged and misguided could command such a wide support among

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Speaker 1: the world's restless youth reflects in part, the careless sentimentalism

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Speaker 1: of people whose genuine concern for the Palestinians blinded them

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Speaker 1: to the cynical and bloodthirsty duplicity of Hamas Amen. And

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Speaker 1: of course, the virus of anti Semitism, to which half

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Speaker 1: educated mind seem particularly vulnerable, had its part to play.

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Speaker 1: But the capacity to incite greta thunbird to join a

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Speaker 1: flotilla isn't real international power. Mister Trump's triumph of Ramas

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Speaker 1: comes from his ability to organize a coalition of realists

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Speaker 1: against the pretensions of fanaticists. The Gulf Arabs want stability

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Speaker 1: in the region so they can develop their economies and

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Speaker 1: attract international investment without the perpetual upheaval of chaos on

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Speaker 1: which Amas thrives. That's the lynchpin to Trump's success in

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Speaker 1: the region. Wake up, idiots, you guys can trade together.

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Speaker 1: You can live and thrive and survive together. It'll be

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Speaker 1: good for all of your economies if you just put

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Speaker 1: down your stupid ideological beliefs and get along and quit

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Speaker 1: killing each other. What a great message. Huh Okay, we

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Speaker 1: here in Saudi Arabia can live a peaceful existence. Is

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Speaker 1: a country, Saudi Arabia, while oh, look over there, Cutter

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Speaker 1: is living its own peaceful existence with it and its borders.

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Speaker 1: And look, yeah, we can play along with Israel, just fine.

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Speaker 1: Do we like that they were there? Well maybe not

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Speaker 1: because they did take over some previously, you know, Arab

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Speaker 1: dominated space or whatever. But this problem's been going on

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Speaker 1: for thousands of years. Okay, so let's play nicely with

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Speaker 1: the Israelis. Apparently they got their act together. They have

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Speaker 1: a booming economy. Look at them compared to where we are.

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Speaker 1: Uh sorry, it's my mood today. Back over to the

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Speaker 1: Trump's triph over Moss. They also want to most to

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Speaker 1: suffer the kind of crushing defeat that would reduce its

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Speaker 1: ideological appeal among their own citizens. This would be the

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Speaker 1: Arab Gulf Arab states. Yes they do. Israel wants security

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Speaker 1: for its people, stating the obvious. Europeans won an end

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Speaker 1: to a war that agitated their immigrant populations and increased

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Speaker 1: the risk of domestic terror. Look at what's going on

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Speaker 1: in the streets of Europe. Yes, violent protests in the

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Speaker 1: name of the Palestinian state or whatever. Mister Trump's genius

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Speaker 1: was to find a frame work within which these different powers,

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Speaker 1: with their different priorities could end could work together toward

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Speaker 1: their common goal. It is a real accomplishment and deserves

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Speaker 1: the world's gratitude and respect. But the next steps will

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Speaker 1: be harder. The Russian and Chinese governments, even when misguided,

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Speaker 1: have a rationally and consistency that Hamas a rationality rather inconsistency,

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Speaker 1: that Hamas never did. Hamas dug tunnels. Russia and China

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Speaker 1: build nuclear weapons, and I will interject and also hack

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Speaker 1: into our critical infrastructure. The skill of flexibility, encouraged mister

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Speaker 1: Trump demonstrated in his campaign against a Moss, will stand

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Speaker 1: him in good stead in the competition with Russia and China.

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Speaker 1: But it remains to be seen whether this president and

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Speaker 1: the country he leads are ready for this sterner test

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Speaker 1: to come. Food for thought. Thank you Walter Russell Meade

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Speaker 1: It's six fifty two fifty five ker CD talk station,

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Speaker 1: news downtown safety and how happy are the police officers

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Speaker 1: with the current mayor Anthony Weiner Charter Committee cadidate run

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Speaker 1: That's at seven point thirty. In the meantime, related to

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Speaker 1: With FCC non compliant editorial comments written on the article

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Speaker 1: by executive producer Joe Strecker Inhaler's people that have respiratory conditions,

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Speaker 1: you know, the inhalers you have, Well, apparently you are

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Speaker 1: apparently researchers found that inhalers approve for asthma and chronic

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Speaker 1: obstructive pulmonary disease generated twenty four point nine million metric

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Speaker 1: tons of carbon dioxide equivalent of MISI in the US

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Speaker 1: alone between twenty fourteen and twenty twenty four over a

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Speaker 1: ten year period. They say this is the equivalent to

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Speaker 1: the emissions of five hundred and thirty thousand gasoline powered

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Speaker 1: cars every year, gord to the authors, scaled across tens

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Speaker 1: of millions of Inhaler's dispense annually. These emissions drive global warming,

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Speaker 1: exacerbating the very respiratory conditions inhalers are meant to relieve.

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Speaker 1: Oh wow, it's a circuitous problem here. Global warming is

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Speaker 1: causing you to have asthma. Asthma were required to use

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Speaker 1: the inhaler. The inhaler causes global warming sucks to be

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Speaker 1: I guess us living on the planet Earth. That is,

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Speaker 1: if you believe carbon dioxide plant food is actually a problem,

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Speaker 1: and I am one that does not. Twenty eight million

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Speaker 1: Americans have asthma, thirty four million of chronic lung disease.

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Speaker 1: According to the Asthma Allergy Foundation, these cases are ready

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Speaker 1: expected to grow well as climate change makes air pollution worse.

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Speaker 1: They said, meter dose inhaler is the most harmful to

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Speaker 1: the environment, accounting for ninety eight percent of emissions over

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Speaker 1: that decade long period. I think this is a revealing

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Speaker 1: of the reality that we're facing here now for folks

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Speaker 1: like me who regularly observe that the city of Cincinnati

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Speaker 1: can't do a blanken thing about global warming on its own,

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Speaker 1: notably because we have the Chinese Communist Party belching out

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Speaker 1: emissions that go across the entire planet Earth's atmosphere. We're

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Speaker 1: all breathing the same air they belch out more than

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Speaker 1: we remove from the environment nationally. So City of Cincinnati,

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Speaker 1: you can just forget about your efforts. It's not helping anything,

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Speaker 1: and then we have this pervasive problem of inhalers, probably

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Speaker 1: just one singular product among most notably thousands of products

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Speaker 1: out in the world that have some connection with putting

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Speaker 1: carbon dioxide into the atmosphere. And while Greta Thunberg cries,

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Speaker 1: the trees and the plants are all well very happy

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Speaker 1: with that reality. Six to fifty five fifty five KRC,

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Speaker 1: DE Talk Station, Ken Kober, Thank God, I'll be joining

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Speaker 1: the program after the top of the our news Aaron

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Speaker 1: Weiner at seven point thirty, we get the inside scoop

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Speaker 1: at Bright bart and News. White House Correspondent Nick Gilbertson

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Speaker 1: on the Trump Middle East piece. Daniel Davis deep died

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Speaker 1: with the latest on Middle East and Russia Ukraine. That's

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Speaker 1: coming up. I hope you can stick around.

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Speaker 12: Today's tough headlines coming up at the top of the hour.

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Speaker 1: Because the news changes. Fifty five KRC the Talk Station,

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Speaker 1: this report.

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Speaker 7: Schumer shut down, the events of the day, Portland, Chicago,

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Speaker 7: violent crime.

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Speaker 2: Every day it is as peace. Fifty five KRC.

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Speaker 17: The Talk Station.

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Speaker 1: Let me see your whole palace?

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Speaker 2: All else, all else, what.

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Speaker 1: All else he will be very, very angry with you,

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Speaker 1: and we will write you a letter telling you how

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Speaker 1: angry we are. Hans Blick's approach paralleling the chief of police,

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Speaker 1: I guess Brian Thomas here. Happy to welcome back to

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Speaker 1: the fifty five Karsee Morning Show Can Cober, the president

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Speaker 1: of the Fraternal Order Police Chapter sixty nine, which represents

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Speaker 1: the SINCINNTI Police Department. Ken Cober, are always a pleasure

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Speaker 1: to have you on the fifty five Krsee Morning Show.

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Speaker 2: Hey, good morning, Brian, thanks for having me.

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Speaker 1: Too bad. There's nothing to talk about, right Ken, what

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Speaker 1: your react? You had a couple more shootings. Violence obviously

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Speaker 1: a real problem. The city of Cincinnati residents at least

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Speaker 1: feel violence is a problem. You and I could cite

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Speaker 1: all day long the number of crimes and violence and

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Speaker 1: shootings and murders and everything else that's going on in

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Speaker 1: the city of Cincinnati. We I think we have a

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Speaker 1: crime problem, and that way up until like a moment

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Speaker 1: in time ago, a tab pervol denying that we have

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Speaker 1: a problem, thinking that MAGA is going to like ruin

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Speaker 1: the progress we've made in terms of safety. I saw

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Speaker 1: his campaign literature the other day. He kept talking about

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Speaker 1: how safe we are and I don't feel that way.

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Speaker 1: What is your reaction? What is your perception at least

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Speaker 1: the since a police department, the officers that you represent,

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Speaker 1: their perception of safety and how what is their perception

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Speaker 1: of the mayor. I know you got a new confidence

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Speaker 1: vote with Mayor have tab Purvol, so let's talk.

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Speaker 2: Well, I could tell you that you know the perception

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Speaker 2: and it's it's actually reality is that crime is running

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Speaker 2: rampant right now. And you know the members spoke doing

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Speaker 2: a vote of no confidence. They don't have any confidence

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Speaker 2: in this mayor leading the city, which is exactly why

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Speaker 2: it's done. And you know, I've been throughout the districts

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Speaker 2: and I know it has gotten full support of every

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Speaker 2: officer that I've talked to.

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Speaker 1: Well he seem and I know Corey Bowman's you know

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Speaker 1: comment about after have Parvoll, he's been react active. You know,

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Speaker 1: something bad happens. He doesn't get ahead of problems with

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Speaker 1: regard to policing, staffing, where they're located. I don't know

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Speaker 1: how much control Mayor Aftab Purvol has about where the

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Speaker 1: police are allocated. In terms of resources, you obviously need

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Speaker 1: a couple of hundred additional officers. That's been a ongoing problem.

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Speaker 1: But does he have any control over how these police

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Speaker 1: officer resources are allocated or is that square in the

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Speaker 1: lap of police chief Diji?

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean, is somebody within city administration?

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Speaker 1: Does?

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Speaker 2: I mean? I know the mayor is taken credit for

1302
01:13:31,600 --> 01:13:35,880
Speaker 2: all the millions of dollars that has been allocated for

1303
01:13:35,920 --> 01:13:39,600
Speaker 2: the police, you know, as far as how those resources

1304
01:13:39,680 --> 01:13:42,799
Speaker 2: are deployed, I'm sure it's a conversation that the chief

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01:13:42,800 --> 01:13:44,760
Speaker 2: has with whether it's a city manager or the mayor.

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01:13:45,680 --> 01:13:48,120
Speaker 2: I do believe ultimately it does fall in the police chief.

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01:13:48,160 --> 01:13:52,240
Speaker 2: But of course we have an election year, so politics

1308
01:13:52,320 --> 01:13:54,320
Speaker 2: are running rampant, and there's a lot of things that

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01:13:54,360 --> 01:13:58,760
Speaker 2: I believe politicians are interjecting themselves in that isn't necessarily

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01:13:58,800 --> 01:13:59,839
Speaker 2: good for the police department.

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01:14:00,240 --> 01:14:03,200
Speaker 1: Well, specifically, what I would I mean, if I can say,

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01:14:03,200 --> 01:14:05,800
Speaker 1: if if if Ken Cobra FOP president is the mayor,

1313
01:14:05,920 --> 01:14:08,559
Speaker 1: what would you do and what what what is your desire?

1314
01:14:08,600 --> 01:14:10,280
Speaker 1: What are the desires of the men and women in

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01:14:10,400 --> 01:14:12,400
Speaker 1: uniform right now that aren't being addressed?

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01:14:13,560 --> 01:14:16,000
Speaker 2: Well, let the police chief the r the police department,

1317
01:14:17,160 --> 01:14:19,479
Speaker 2: you know, and let her make the decisions that she

1318
01:14:19,520 --> 01:14:23,720
Speaker 2: feels she needs to make without having city leaders tell

1319
01:14:23,720 --> 01:14:26,000
Speaker 2: her this is what you're gonna do. I'm a perfect

1320
01:14:26,000 --> 01:14:28,000
Speaker 2: example of that. And we saw that cops are being

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01:14:28,120 --> 01:14:31,920
Speaker 2: ordered to work, uh you know, work walking patrols on

1322
01:14:32,040 --> 01:14:35,160
Speaker 2: their off time, on an off day, they cancel their

1323
01:14:35,200 --> 01:14:37,000
Speaker 2: off days and they order them to work and you

1324
01:14:37,000 --> 01:14:40,080
Speaker 2: know walk on Main Street and Vine Street from Central

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Speaker 2: Parkway to Liberty Street. That wasn't something that the police

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01:14:43,840 --> 01:14:45,920
Speaker 2: chief just came up with. This is something that city

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01:14:45,960 --> 01:14:50,360
Speaker 2: halls and it's things like that that you know, we're

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01:14:50,520 --> 01:14:53,280
Speaker 2: we're using you know, resources there when maybe they could

1329
01:14:53,280 --> 01:14:54,280
Speaker 2: be used somewhere differently.

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Speaker 1: Well, there's a lot of neighborhoods in the City of

1331
01:14:56,439 --> 01:14:58,640
Speaker 1: Cincinnati we've seen to be focusing on the you know,

1332
01:14:58,680 --> 01:15:01,040
Speaker 1: like Government Square proputms. I knew after that was on

1333
01:15:01,080 --> 01:15:03,080
Speaker 1: a tear about the issues going on in Government Square,

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01:15:03,080 --> 01:15:05,559
Speaker 1: thinking maybe sort of might be able to hammer it out.

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Speaker 1: What do you just real quick on that issue because

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Speaker 1: I was kind of scratching my head over the mayor's

1337
01:15:11,960 --> 01:15:15,840
Speaker 1: comments looking for changes to Government Square. Wow, why is

1338
01:15:15,960 --> 01:15:18,800
Speaker 1: that the magnet? And if you crack down on Government Square,

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01:15:18,840 --> 01:15:21,240
Speaker 1: which is just loading and unloading zone. From my understanding

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01:15:21,280 --> 01:15:26,040
Speaker 1: for buses, wouldn't those reckless, you know, law breaking youths

1341
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Speaker 1: or whoever's hanging out there just move someplace else.

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01:15:29,800 --> 01:15:31,880
Speaker 2: Well, you know this, this has been the topic of

1343
01:15:31,920 --> 01:15:34,840
Speaker 2: discussion for the last two years now, is you see

1344
01:15:34,840 --> 01:15:37,160
Speaker 2: what's going on with juveniles. You have juveniles that have

1345
01:15:37,280 --> 01:15:40,759
Speaker 2: no business being downtown, but because they're given these bus

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01:15:40,800 --> 01:15:44,920
Speaker 2: passes after school, they all congregate downtown. So you have

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01:15:45,000 --> 01:15:48,160
Speaker 2: kids that don't belong, that don't live downtown, that are

1348
01:15:48,200 --> 01:15:50,439
Speaker 2: coming down there, and of course and they're clashing with

1349
01:15:50,800 --> 01:15:53,760
Speaker 2: kids from other neighborhoods that are driving as violence. And

1350
01:15:53,760 --> 01:15:57,240
Speaker 2: that's that is the really the crux of what the

1351
01:15:57,280 --> 01:16:01,280
Speaker 2: problems that we see after school, like Government Square, These

1352
01:16:01,280 --> 01:16:03,479
Speaker 2: aren't kids that are running around downtown that live down there.

1353
01:16:03,760 --> 01:16:08,400
Speaker 2: These are kids from Evanston, from Westwood, you know, neighborhoods

1354
01:16:08,439 --> 01:16:10,920
Speaker 2: all over the city that all come to the central

1355
01:16:10,920 --> 01:16:13,960
Speaker 2: location that quite honestly a lot of them don't have

1356
01:16:14,000 --> 01:16:15,639
Speaker 2: any business being down there to begin with.

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Speaker 1: So, Yeah, in spite of my reaction this morning to

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01:16:20,080 --> 01:16:21,720
Speaker 1: what may I have to have purwell said, so there

1359
01:16:21,800 --> 01:16:26,479
Speaker 1: is really something to that is it? Is it just

1360
01:16:26,560 --> 01:16:30,280
Speaker 1: the transportation system generally, that by concentrating them there and

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Speaker 1: by requiring all these these school aged kids to you know,

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Speaker 1: ride the metro buses and end up in Government Square

1363
01:16:36,640 --> 01:16:39,000
Speaker 1: because it just that's the whe where the central location

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01:16:39,240 --> 01:16:42,120
Speaker 1: is that needs to be rethought or changed.

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Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I mean you have it's been suggested, and

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Speaker 2: it's fallen on deaf ears as you have the transit

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Speaker 2: center under Second Street that that could be used for

1368
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Speaker 2: a bus depot. That's exactly what it was built and

1369
01:16:55,920 --> 01:16:59,360
Speaker 2: designed to be. Yeah, and if you're if the kids

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Speaker 2: are down there, it's not an attractive rut to me. Yeah,

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01:17:03,120 --> 01:17:05,760
Speaker 2: it's it's there's there's less opportunity for them to go

1372
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Speaker 2: disrupt businesses because you're literally, you know, in a in

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01:17:10,040 --> 01:17:14,160
Speaker 2: a concrete area where it is sole purpose is to

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Speaker 2: get on one bus to go to another. You know.

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Speaker 2: Put it in the heart of downtown, you know, at

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Speaker 2: Fifth and Walna, in Fifth and Maine, and you have

1377
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Speaker 2: an opportunity with all these businesses with people there, for

1378
01:17:24,240 --> 01:17:27,200
Speaker 2: kids just to be disruptive. And like I said, it's

1379
01:17:27,240 --> 01:17:29,800
Speaker 2: been talked about and there's been so much pushback about

1380
01:17:29,840 --> 01:17:34,280
Speaker 2: it that transit tunnel sits empty ninety nine percent of

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01:17:34,320 --> 01:17:37,960
Speaker 2: the year. That's what I believe that they should look

1382
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Speaker 2: at moving that transit center down there to alleviate some

1383
01:17:41,680 --> 01:17:42,360
Speaker 2: of these problems.

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Speaker 1: It sounds like a brilliant idea. You say, there's been

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01:17:44,600 --> 01:17:47,640
Speaker 1: pushback on that, pushback in what I mean, maybe not

1386
01:17:47,680 --> 01:17:50,439
Speaker 1: necessarily so much from whom, But what what is the

1387
01:17:50,600 --> 01:17:54,040
Speaker 1: argument against what seems like a very logical solution to

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01:17:54,080 --> 01:17:59,880
Speaker 1: the problem, at least something that it's worth trying out right, Well, I.

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Speaker 2: Know from the metro perspective, and I can certainly understand

1390
01:18:02,479 --> 01:18:04,720
Speaker 2: where they're coming from, because you have these routes. They

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01:18:04,720 --> 01:18:07,840
Speaker 2: have routes down to literally a tenth of a mile,

1392
01:18:08,320 --> 01:18:10,519
Speaker 2: how long it takes, how much fuel it takes, all

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01:18:10,560 --> 01:18:13,320
Speaker 2: these things, And their contention is if we move at

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Speaker 2: a half a mile, then the cost of doing business

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01:18:17,640 --> 01:18:20,600
Speaker 2: is going to go up, which I understand that, But

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01:18:21,280 --> 01:18:25,400
Speaker 2: the cost of leaving that where it is and destroying

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01:18:25,439 --> 01:18:28,120
Speaker 2: downtown and businesses I think is probably going to be

1398
01:18:28,200 --> 01:18:29,920
Speaker 2: much greater than what the cost of fuel is going

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Speaker 2: to be to move the bus depot half a mile.

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Speaker 1: Well, if you had to crunch the numbers and the

1401
01:18:34,200 --> 01:18:37,439
Speaker 1: allocation of police resources and the impact on business alone,

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01:18:37,520 --> 01:18:40,800
Speaker 1: I have to imagine that those two costs combined are

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01:18:41,320 --> 01:18:44,240
Speaker 1: greater than whatever it is would would be the cost

1404
01:18:44,320 --> 01:18:47,160
Speaker 1: impact of maybe dropping them off down at Second Street.

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01:18:48,400 --> 01:18:50,880
Speaker 2: Now, absolutely, that's what I said. I mean, we're at

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01:18:50,920 --> 01:18:53,360
Speaker 2: the point now where in my twenty five year career

1407
01:18:53,960 --> 01:18:57,439
Speaker 2: I hadn't heard of of one shooting at Fountain Square,

1408
01:18:57,520 --> 01:19:00,880
Speaker 2: much less two and five days, And it's only a

1409
01:19:00,920 --> 01:19:04,840
Speaker 2: matter of time before these businesses go enoughs enough, We're

1410
01:19:04,840 --> 01:19:07,240
Speaker 2: not dealing with this anymore. You know, you have police

1411
01:19:07,280 --> 01:19:09,240
Speaker 2: officers that are standing in Fountain Square and they're people

1412
01:19:09,280 --> 01:19:13,679
Speaker 2: shooting each other anyway, So they've got to do something

1413
01:19:13,720 --> 01:19:15,800
Speaker 2: to figure out how to deal with this. You know,

1414
01:19:15,840 --> 01:19:17,960
Speaker 2: the these traditional methods of wow, we're just going to

1415
01:19:18,000 --> 01:19:21,640
Speaker 2: throw fifty policemen down there, it's clearly not working. So

1416
01:19:21,720 --> 01:19:23,320
Speaker 2: they're going to have to think outside of the box

1417
01:19:23,360 --> 01:19:24,720
Speaker 2: and find a way to solve this problem, and they

1418
01:19:24,760 --> 01:19:25,599
Speaker 2: better solve it quickly.

1419
01:19:26,040 --> 01:19:28,519
Speaker 1: FOP President Cankalber, I'm gonna pause, We'll bring it back

1420
01:19:28,520 --> 01:19:30,599
Speaker 1: and maybe get a few more questions about the situation

1421
01:19:30,680 --> 01:19:32,880
Speaker 1: in downtown Cincinnati. We do have an election coming up.

1422
01:19:32,920 --> 01:19:35,000
Speaker 1: We could choose a different path in the city, and

1423
01:19:35,280 --> 01:19:38,360
Speaker 1: that's been my strong encouragement, most notably since my police

1424
01:19:38,400 --> 01:19:41,160
Speaker 1: department friends don't have any confidence in have to have

1425
01:19:41,320 --> 01:19:45,000
Speaker 1: parwall question, do they have confidence in police chief? Teresa Thigi?

1426
01:19:45,120 --> 01:19:47,280
Speaker 1: Let me ask that question coming back, Ken, preparing you

1427
01:19:47,320 --> 01:19:49,519
Speaker 1: for the next question seven to fifteen right now if

1428
01:19:49,560 --> 01:19:54,240
Speaker 1: you have k City Talks Tea the talk station seven

1429
01:19:54,320 --> 01:19:57,760
Speaker 1: nineteen fifty five kras De Talk Station, Hope you're having

1430
01:19:57,800 --> 01:20:00,880
Speaker 1: a decent Tuesday. Brian Thomas with FOP President Kob Chapter

1431
01:20:00,960 --> 01:20:05,360
Speaker 1: sixty nine represented this in sant Police Apartment, Ken Cober. Obviously,

1432
01:20:05,560 --> 01:20:07,720
Speaker 1: no confidence vote means you have no confidence in a

1433
01:20:07,880 --> 01:20:10,040
Speaker 1: may have to have purvol you said, you know, leave

1434
01:20:10,080 --> 01:20:13,799
Speaker 1: it the allocation of resources and police patrols and decision

1435
01:20:13,800 --> 01:20:16,679
Speaker 1: making with regard to since St Police Department and where

1436
01:20:16,680 --> 01:20:18,559
Speaker 1: they are that should be left up to police chief

1437
01:20:18,600 --> 01:20:22,400
Speaker 1: three Cythigi. Do the men and women in uniform have

1438
01:20:22,479 --> 01:20:25,880
Speaker 1: confidence in police chief? Three Cythigi. I've heard, and I've

1439
01:20:25,880 --> 01:20:27,800
Speaker 1: heard it from quite a few of the officers that

1440
01:20:27,840 --> 01:20:29,960
Speaker 1: I know, the answer to that question is no. That's

1441
01:20:30,000 --> 01:20:32,000
Speaker 1: what I have heard, and I know it's a delicate

1442
01:20:32,080 --> 01:20:35,559
Speaker 1: question to ask you FOP President Ken Kober, But where

1443
01:20:35,560 --> 01:20:38,400
Speaker 1: are we with regard to police Chief three Cythigi.

1444
01:20:39,840 --> 01:20:42,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, no one's come to me and said, look, I

1445
01:20:42,200 --> 01:20:43,800
Speaker 2: think we should take some kind of vote and no

1446
01:20:43,880 --> 01:20:46,880
Speaker 2: confidence on the chief. And this is where a lot

1447
01:20:46,880 --> 01:20:49,920
Speaker 2: of the frustration lies is in two thousand and five,

1448
01:20:50,040 --> 01:20:54,439
Speaker 2: when the voters passed Issue five that gave the city

1449
01:20:54,479 --> 01:20:56,920
Speaker 2: the sole authority to hire and fire a police chief.

1450
01:20:57,720 --> 01:21:01,519
Speaker 2: It completely ruined the position of chief. Now you have

1451
01:21:01,960 --> 01:21:04,400
Speaker 2: the police chief, and it's not just Chief Thiji, it's

1452
01:21:04,400 --> 01:21:07,880
Speaker 2: been every chief that's come after Chief Striker when he

1453
01:21:07,960 --> 01:21:12,000
Speaker 2: retired in twenty ten. They behold to the city manager

1454
01:21:12,040 --> 01:21:15,360
Speaker 2: and the mayor politics if they say, yeah, it's all politics.

1455
01:21:15,400 --> 01:21:19,160
Speaker 2: And that's why I've been very very vocal about politicians

1456
01:21:19,200 --> 01:21:22,400
Speaker 2: need to stay out a law enforcement and unfortunately we

1457
01:21:22,479 --> 01:21:25,320
Speaker 2: don't have that. We saw it when James Craig first

1458
01:21:25,360 --> 01:21:27,840
Speaker 2: got elected or first got appointed, and he was here

1459
01:21:27,880 --> 01:21:30,920
Speaker 2: for two years, made some fantastic changes. The troops loved him,

1460
01:21:31,160 --> 01:21:34,960
Speaker 2: and they got rid of him because the troops loved him.

1461
01:21:35,360 --> 01:21:37,280
Speaker 2: So now you know, fast forward to Chief Fiji, and

1462
01:21:37,320 --> 01:21:39,679
Speaker 2: it's like she's stuck between a rock and a hard place.

1463
01:21:39,680 --> 01:21:41,800
Speaker 2: And I get it. Now you have a boss that

1464
01:21:41,880 --> 01:21:44,120
Speaker 2: you have to answer to that's going to tell you you're

1465
01:21:43,920 --> 01:21:45,439
Speaker 2: gonna do this, You're gonna do that, and if you

1466
01:21:45,640 --> 01:21:49,680
Speaker 2: don't do it, then the consequences could be your terminated.

1467
01:21:50,400 --> 01:21:53,040
Speaker 2: So would I like to see her do things differently?

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01:21:53,200 --> 01:21:53,400
Speaker 10: Yeah?

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01:21:53,439 --> 01:21:57,840
Speaker 2: I would, But I also understand that you have somebody

1470
01:21:57,920 --> 01:21:59,320
Speaker 2: have to answer to. And if the mayor, of the

1471
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Speaker 2: city manager, or whoever it is that's above you is

1472
01:22:02,040 --> 01:22:03,640
Speaker 2: telling you you're gonna do this if you want to

1473
01:22:03,640 --> 01:22:04,960
Speaker 2: stay employed, that's what you have to do.

1474
01:22:05,400 --> 01:22:07,920
Speaker 1: You know. I am so glad that I asked you

1475
01:22:07,960 --> 01:22:10,800
Speaker 1: the question because I had I guess either wasn't aware

1476
01:22:10,880 --> 01:22:13,960
Speaker 1: or had forgotten the old way versus the new way.

1477
01:22:14,439 --> 01:22:17,519
Speaker 1: Who is in a better position to determine who the

1478
01:22:17,600 --> 01:22:21,240
Speaker 1: chief of police is than the police officers themselves. I mean,

1479
01:22:21,280 --> 01:22:24,479
Speaker 1: you guys are ladies and men. Are not going to

1480
01:22:24,520 --> 01:22:27,080
Speaker 1: select someone that's not going to be in your best interest.

1481
01:22:27,120 --> 01:22:29,120
Speaker 1: You're gonna look for the most competent person, the one

1482
01:22:29,120 --> 01:22:31,400
Speaker 1: who's going to hire based on merit, who's going to

1483
01:22:31,439 --> 01:22:34,960
Speaker 1: provide promotions based upon merit as opposed to who's politically connected,

1484
01:22:35,000 --> 01:22:38,479
Speaker 1: who fills in the right checkbox on some woke identity form.

1485
01:22:38,760 --> 01:22:41,960
Speaker 1: You know, is there any possibility we can go back

1486
01:22:42,000 --> 01:22:43,240
Speaker 1: to that Ken.

1487
01:22:43,960 --> 01:22:45,800
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, and you know it would take some kind

1488
01:22:45,800 --> 01:22:49,160
Speaker 2: of ballot initiative. But you know, while I understand, you know,

1489
01:22:49,200 --> 01:22:51,320
Speaker 2: this was the will of the people in two thousand

1490
01:22:51,360 --> 01:22:53,320
Speaker 2: and five, I think there should be there could be

1491
01:22:53,400 --> 01:22:56,160
Speaker 2: some compromise to be made. I think anytime you leave

1492
01:22:56,200 --> 01:22:58,840
Speaker 2: it to one or two people to determine, you know,

1493
01:22:59,240 --> 01:23:01,960
Speaker 2: whether or not, you know, the police chief is going

1494
01:23:02,040 --> 01:23:05,120
Speaker 2: to stay in that position, I think that that creates problems.

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Speaker 2: You know what, maybe it's a something where you know,

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Speaker 2: they put about initiative on where you know, we consider

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Speaker 2: maybe the majority of council decides, you know, whether or

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Speaker 2: not we hire or fire somebody. I don't know. There's

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Speaker 2: a lot of things that I think need to be explored.

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Speaker 2: But you know, the position a police chief needs to

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01:23:23,040 --> 01:23:28,320
Speaker 2: come with some protections. You know, if it's not FOP protection,

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01:23:28,920 --> 01:23:30,400
Speaker 2: then they got to be able to know that they

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01:23:30,439 --> 01:23:32,920
Speaker 2: can do and go out and do what they think

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01:23:33,040 --> 01:23:36,240
Speaker 2: is best for the police department, best for the city

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01:23:36,240 --> 01:23:39,720
Speaker 2: of Cincinnati, and do that without fear of making one

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01:23:39,760 --> 01:23:43,600
Speaker 2: person upset who's a politician, and and them have the

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01:23:43,640 --> 01:23:47,320
Speaker 2: ability just to get rid of it. Certainly handcuffs the

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01:23:47,320 --> 01:23:49,599
Speaker 2: police chief. And that's why you see. You know, it's

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Speaker 2: not just Cincinnati, but all these major cities that now

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01:23:52,120 --> 01:23:55,240
Speaker 2: have this, They have a new police chief every two, three,

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01:23:55,280 --> 01:23:58,519
Speaker 2: four years. Yeah, we've gone through the same thing here,

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Speaker 2: and it does a disservice not only did the police

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01:24:00,880 --> 01:24:03,919
Speaker 2: department to the men and women that served this police department,

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01:24:04,120 --> 01:24:07,360
Speaker 2: but also for the citizens. They deserve to have a

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01:24:07,400 --> 01:24:10,800
Speaker 2: police chief that is able to make decisions based off

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01:24:10,840 --> 01:24:13,720
Speaker 2: of what they think is best for law enforcement in

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01:24:13,760 --> 01:24:15,920
Speaker 2: the city, not based off of what a politician thinks

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01:24:15,960 --> 01:24:16,400
Speaker 2: we should do.

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01:24:16,920 --> 01:24:20,639
Speaker 1: And who I would argue that who would know better

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01:24:20,720 --> 01:24:22,920
Speaker 1: as police chief than someone who came up through the

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01:24:23,040 --> 01:24:26,479
Speaker 1: ranks within the City of Cincinnati police department. You hire

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01:24:26,520 --> 01:24:29,519
Speaker 1: somebody from some other city out there in the world,

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01:24:30,000 --> 01:24:31,559
Speaker 1: it's going to take him forever to get up to

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01:24:31,560 --> 01:24:33,720
Speaker 1: speed on how we operate here in the city. You

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01:24:33,720 --> 01:24:36,160
Speaker 1: can't just hit the ground running in that position. I

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01:24:36,200 --> 01:24:38,080
Speaker 1: would believe maybe I'm wrong on that.

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01:24:39,200 --> 01:24:41,000
Speaker 2: No, you're absolutely right, you know, like I said in

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01:24:41,120 --> 01:24:42,720
Speaker 2: James Craig was one of the few. He hit the

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01:24:42,720 --> 01:24:45,800
Speaker 2: ground running and did an absolutely fantastic job. I mean,

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01:24:45,800 --> 01:24:49,040
Speaker 2: he was what this city needed what the police department

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01:24:49,120 --> 01:24:51,760
Speaker 2: needed at that time, and he did a fantastic job.

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01:24:51,800 --> 01:24:54,960
Speaker 2: And unfortunately, because he stood on his own two feet

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01:24:55,479 --> 01:24:57,760
Speaker 2: and stood up to you know, at the time, the

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01:24:57,800 --> 01:25:00,560
Speaker 2: politicians that were at city Hall, you know he was

1535
01:25:00,600 --> 01:25:03,120
Speaker 2: there for two years, they didn't even offer a contract extension.

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01:25:03,120 --> 01:25:05,160
Speaker 2: They said, yeah, thanks, but no thanks to you later.

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01:25:06,280 --> 01:25:08,040
Speaker 2: And then of course he went up to Detroit and

1538
01:25:08,080 --> 01:25:10,920
Speaker 2: did some fantastic work up there. But you know, as

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01:25:10,920 --> 01:25:13,960
Speaker 2: long as this system is in place, you're never going

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01:25:14,040 --> 01:25:15,960
Speaker 2: to have a police chief that is going to stand

1541
01:25:16,000 --> 01:25:18,519
Speaker 2: there and say, no, I'm going to do what I

1542
01:25:18,640 --> 01:25:22,280
Speaker 2: think is best as a law enforcement professional. Is you

1543
01:25:22,280 --> 01:25:24,759
Speaker 2: know if that differs from what a politician says, because

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01:25:24,800 --> 01:25:26,600
Speaker 2: at the end of the day, if they want to

1545
01:25:26,640 --> 01:25:29,280
Speaker 2: stay employed, they're going to do what politicians tell him

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01:25:29,280 --> 01:25:32,160
Speaker 2: to do. And that's that is a slippery slope and

1547
01:25:32,200 --> 01:25:33,840
Speaker 2: we're seeing the effects of that now.

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Speaker 1: I cannot thank you enough for coming in the Morning

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01:25:36,400 --> 01:25:40,360
Speaker 1: show today, Ken Cober. I appreciate that profound honesty and

1550
01:25:40,560 --> 01:25:43,040
Speaker 1: eye opening reality of what you're dealing with there. I

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01:25:43,040 --> 01:25:45,120
Speaker 1: think you've hit the nail on the head, my friend,

1552
01:25:45,160 --> 01:25:48,280
Speaker 1: and first time I've had a discussion involving that component

1553
01:25:48,400 --> 01:25:50,960
Speaker 1: of the sinsint Police Department. So maybe we can change

1554
01:25:51,000 --> 01:25:53,719
Speaker 1: things going down the road. In the meantime, we're stuck

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01:25:53,760 --> 01:25:56,760
Speaker 1: with what we've got and elections do have consequences. FLP

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01:25:56,840 --> 01:25:59,080
Speaker 1: President Ken Cober, thanks again, man, this has been a

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01:25:59,080 --> 01:26:01,599
Speaker 1: really enlightening converce, so I appreciate coming on the show

1558
01:26:01,680 --> 01:26:07,320
Speaker 1: talking about it. It's seven twenty nine here fifty five

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01:26:07,400 --> 01:26:10,639
Speaker 1: krs DE talk station. Happy Tuesday. We get the inside

1560
01:26:10,640 --> 01:26:14,479
Speaker 1: scoop from bright bart News on the situation of Middle

1561
01:26:14,479 --> 01:26:16,479
Speaker 1: East peace. We'll get the Daniel Davis Deep Dive coming

1562
01:26:16,520 --> 01:26:18,120
Speaker 1: up in one hour. In the meantime. Welcome back to

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01:26:18,120 --> 01:26:20,639
Speaker 1: the fifty five CARSSE Morning Show run for CINCINNTI Council

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01:26:21,320 --> 01:26:24,360
Speaker 1: as a Charter Right candidate, Aaron Weiner, who also has

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01:26:24,479 --> 01:26:28,080
Speaker 1: and congratulations Aaron, welcome back the FOP endorsement on the

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Speaker 1: heels of ken Cobra being on the program. Good to

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Speaker 1: have you back on.

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Speaker 6: Sir, Thanks for having me.

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Speaker 10: It's great to be back.

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Speaker 1: I guess one of the reasons you have the FOP endorsement,

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01:26:37,560 --> 01:26:41,479
Speaker 1: and again, congratulations. I think that speaks volumes right. That's

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01:26:41,520 --> 01:26:45,360
Speaker 1: a really good one. Now you've got an actual written

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01:26:45,439 --> 01:26:48,800
Speaker 1: down for all to see and read proposal, which is

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01:26:48,840 --> 01:26:52,719
Speaker 1: a two prong approach to deal with the police staffing

1575
01:26:52,760 --> 01:26:54,559
Speaker 1: shortage and the problems we've got going on the City

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01:26:54,600 --> 01:26:59,400
Speaker 1: of Cincinnati. One is the Frontline Home Advantage Program initial

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01:26:59,439 --> 01:27:04,200
Speaker 1: CAP and the other the Officer Retention Incentive strategy. Break

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Speaker 1: these down for my listeners, because I think that, I mean,

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01:27:06,479 --> 01:27:09,479
Speaker 1: we need more police officers. There's a shortage of officers,

1580
01:27:09,520 --> 01:27:13,200
Speaker 1: stating the obvious for the world to hear. Everywhere, everyone

1581
01:27:13,360 --> 01:27:16,280
Speaker 1: has lost officers because of this whole crap about defunding

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01:27:16,320 --> 01:27:18,400
Speaker 1: police and police are all racists and nobody wants to

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01:27:18,400 --> 01:27:22,559
Speaker 1: be a police officer. Fine, so we're competing with every

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01:27:22,680 --> 01:27:26,559
Speaker 1: other jurisdiction in the land for police officers. Were already

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01:27:26,600 --> 01:27:29,519
Speaker 1: down a couple of hundred hires. You got hang a

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01:27:29,560 --> 01:27:31,880
Speaker 1: carrot of incentive out there, and I think that's what

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Speaker 1: your program is talking about. So let's talk about the

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01:27:34,640 --> 01:27:36,439
Speaker 1: Frontline Home Advantage Program.

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Speaker 10: Erin great thank you. So when I got into this,

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01:27:42,240 --> 01:27:45,439
Speaker 10: I wanted to actually have some plans. I didn't want

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01:27:45,439 --> 01:27:47,439
Speaker 10: to just have ideas get on count So I wanted

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01:27:47,479 --> 01:27:50,479
Speaker 10: to make sure that I actually had a plan, and

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01:27:50,960 --> 01:27:53,320
Speaker 10: I wanted to use what I knew, and that's real estate.

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Speaker 10: So the front the first prong of the Frontline Home

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Speaker 10: Advantage program is a down payment assistance program. Let's bring

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Speaker 10: police officers back into our city. I don't think any

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Speaker 10: of many live in the city. And the first part

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Speaker 10: of that is a downtayment assistance program. So let's just

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Speaker 10: say that you save up to seven thousand, five hundred dollars,

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Speaker 10: We'll match seven thousand, five hundred dollars. All of a sudden,

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01:28:18,080 --> 01:28:23,960
Speaker 10: you have fifteen thousand dollars to put down on a property.

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Speaker 10: So that's five percent of a three hundred thousand dollars house,

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Speaker 10: which is probably about the average price of a house

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01:28:30,240 --> 01:28:34,120
Speaker 10: right now. The other portion of that is a rental

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Speaker 10: assistance program. Not all officers are going to be in

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Speaker 10: a position maybe they want to buy right away. So

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Speaker 10: let's develop a plan where we give some rental stipends,

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01:28:45,280 --> 01:28:46,760
Speaker 10: you know, two hundred and fifty dollars up to eight

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01:28:46,840 --> 01:28:50,600
Speaker 10: hundred dollars. Let's bring in some of our landlords in

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01:28:50,680 --> 01:28:54,040
Speaker 10: the neighborhoods. Let's talk to town properties, talk to uptown

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01:28:54,080 --> 01:28:56,920
Speaker 10: and see if they can give us some breaks on

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Speaker 10: this to bring to bring people into the city and.

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Speaker 1: Well, darn I got let me just introject real quick

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Speaker 1: on that component. I always thought, you know, having a

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Speaker 1: police officer in the neighborhood was a good thing. Like

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Speaker 1: when we were selling our house in Oak Park, Illinois,

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01:29:15,080 --> 01:29:17,080
Speaker 1: there was a cop that lived about four doors down

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Speaker 1: the street, and so when someone would come to our house,

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01:29:19,360 --> 01:29:20,960
Speaker 1: my wife would always make a point of the Hey,

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01:29:21,000 --> 01:29:22,920
Speaker 1: you know, there's a police officer. It's just a few

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01:29:22,960 --> 01:29:25,479
Speaker 1: doors down. It's like, hey, you sort of have this

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01:29:25,880 --> 01:29:29,120
Speaker 1: built in extra protection. Not that you're volunteering a police

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01:29:29,120 --> 01:29:31,479
Speaker 1: officer to do law enforcement twenty four to seven, but

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Speaker 1: I think it is sort of a peace of mind

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01:29:34,000 --> 01:29:36,200
Speaker 1: thing that goes along with the rental, like, hey, you

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01:29:36,280 --> 01:29:38,360
Speaker 1: got a cop in the building. Isn't that a good thing?

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01:29:39,760 --> 01:29:42,200
Speaker 10: Absolutely, you're touching on. Really one of the one of

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01:29:42,240 --> 01:29:46,400
Speaker 10: the main byproducts in the holistic aspect of this of

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01:29:46,439 --> 01:29:49,479
Speaker 10: this program is that it addresses lots of issues and

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01:29:49,720 --> 01:29:52,320
Speaker 10: solving crime is not is not a quick fix. That's

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01:29:52,320 --> 01:29:55,519
Speaker 10: a long term process. So what it does it does

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01:29:55,520 --> 01:29:58,280
Speaker 10: it brings leadership into our communities. All of a sudden,

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01:29:58,880 --> 01:30:01,960
Speaker 10: people have someone that can look up to, maybe children

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01:30:02,000 --> 01:30:03,560
Speaker 10: have someone they can look up to maybe want to

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01:30:03,560 --> 01:30:08,280
Speaker 10: be a police officer someday. It also brings, like you said, visibility,

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01:30:08,320 --> 01:30:10,680
Speaker 10: they're going to bring the cop cards home. You know what,

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01:30:10,760 --> 01:30:14,280
Speaker 10: Landlard wouldn't want a police officer living in they're building.

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Speaker 10: I think also also to what it does, Brian, which

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01:30:18,560 --> 01:30:20,640
Speaker 10: is I don't think anyone would have a problem with

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01:30:20,680 --> 01:30:23,720
Speaker 10: this no matter where you are politically. It deals with

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01:30:23,760 --> 01:30:26,320
Speaker 10: the issue of trust, right, So all of a sudden

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01:30:27,040 --> 01:30:29,680
Speaker 10: someone is your neighbor. It's hard to be indifferent when

1643
01:30:29,760 --> 01:30:31,800
Speaker 10: someone is your neighbors. So you have that you build

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01:30:31,800 --> 01:30:35,759
Speaker 10: that trust with with our police officers, which really speaks

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01:30:35,800 --> 01:30:38,120
Speaker 10: to the community policing, which is which is a cornerstone

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01:30:38,240 --> 01:30:41,599
Speaker 10: of our policing in the city. So to me, it's

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01:30:41,640 --> 01:30:45,840
Speaker 10: just so many It solves so many issues in this process.

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01:30:46,320 --> 01:30:50,360
Speaker 1: I love the idea. The only counter argument to the

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01:30:50,560 --> 01:30:53,400
Speaker 1: incentives you're suggesting for living in the city of Cincinnati

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01:30:53,560 --> 01:30:58,200
Speaker 1: is does requiring a police officer to live within the

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01:30:58,240 --> 01:31:03,120
Speaker 1: city limits operate as a disincentive for outside lateral hires

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01:31:03,200 --> 01:31:06,400
Speaker 1: Because clearly we have some issues in the city of

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01:31:06,479 --> 01:31:08,519
Speaker 1: sin saying in terms of crime and living and all

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01:31:08,560 --> 01:31:09,200
Speaker 1: that kind of thing.

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01:31:10,520 --> 01:31:11,360
Speaker 14: Let me be clear.

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Speaker 10: First of all, it's not even legal to require them

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01:31:14,920 --> 01:31:17,160
Speaker 10: to live here. This is an incentive. This is a

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01:31:17,200 --> 01:31:21,040
Speaker 10: way to it's a recruiting incentive, and it's a way

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01:31:21,080 --> 01:31:25,760
Speaker 10: to add a carrot to our recruiting process and just

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01:31:26,160 --> 01:31:28,760
Speaker 10: an incentive. And with the cost of rents now, especially

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01:31:29,400 --> 01:31:32,479
Speaker 10: some of the younger police officers, if they're getting a

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01:31:32,479 --> 01:31:34,879
Speaker 10: break on their rent, it might be an easy incentive

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01:31:34,920 --> 01:31:36,519
Speaker 10: for them to want to come and work with us.

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01:31:36,520 --> 01:31:39,040
Speaker 10: So it's absolutely not a mandate, and I do not

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01:31:39,160 --> 01:31:44,200
Speaker 10: want that to be misconstrued. It's an incentive. It's an incentive.

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Speaker 1: It's there for the taking. If it operates as an

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01:31:47,280 --> 01:31:50,679
Speaker 1: incentive for a lateral higher than bully for everybody, it worked,

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01:31:50,720 --> 01:31:53,240
Speaker 1: So I like it. I really really like the idea

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01:31:53,240 --> 01:31:56,880
Speaker 1: of having a physical police officer sort of in my

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01:31:57,040 --> 01:31:59,960
Speaker 1: building or as my neighbor. I'll emphasize that yet again,

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01:32:00,080 --> 01:32:03,200
Speaker 1: let's pause. That was the frontline home advantage program. There's

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01:32:03,200 --> 01:32:05,559
Speaker 1: another component to what Aaron's running on, and this is

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01:32:05,600 --> 01:32:08,800
Speaker 1: the officer retention incentive strategy. We'll break that down. We

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Speaker 1: get back at seven thirty five right now, fifty five

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Speaker 1: K station at fifty five ar CEE talk station and

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Speaker 1: find them online. Help out his campaign. Aaron Winer on

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Speaker 1: the program, returning It's Winer w E I N E

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Speaker 1: R four f O R Cincinnati dot com. Check out

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01:32:26,520 --> 01:32:30,080
Speaker 1: his website. He's common sense guy and real quickly before

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01:32:30,160 --> 01:32:34,200
Speaker 1: leaving the frontline Home Advantage program providing some financial assistance

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01:32:34,240 --> 01:32:37,600
Speaker 1: to police officers to get a home or some rent assistance.

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01:32:39,720 --> 01:32:42,040
Speaker 1: You are you've been in real estate for I understand

1683
01:32:42,040 --> 01:32:44,280
Speaker 1: like twenty five years, so you understand this component. But

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01:32:44,360 --> 01:32:48,960
Speaker 1: the funding for this particular program you're you're suggesting will

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01:32:49,000 --> 01:32:52,080
Speaker 1: be from, at least in part participating realtors with the

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01:32:52,120 --> 01:32:54,799
Speaker 1: reduction in their commission to help deal with that rent reduction.

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Speaker 1: That's and the seventy five hundred dollars toward purchase of

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01:32:58,360 --> 01:33:01,120
Speaker 1: a home. So do you have folks who are willing

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01:33:01,120 --> 01:33:02,720
Speaker 1: to participate beyond you erin?

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Speaker 10: Well, I think let's let's let's let's start with that.

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01:33:07,200 --> 01:33:10,240
Speaker 10: That to be candid, I would I would recuse myself

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01:33:10,320 --> 01:33:13,120
Speaker 10: from doing this program if I were an elected official

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01:33:13,240 --> 01:33:15,559
Speaker 10: jute too, just to.

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01:33:17,160 --> 01:33:20,400
Speaker 1: You know, avoid the appearance of impropriety. Yes, I get it.

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01:33:20,560 --> 01:33:24,000
Speaker 10: In propriety correct, I would certainly be an ardent supporter

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01:33:24,120 --> 01:33:28,840
Speaker 10: of it. But yes, so as as a realtor, we

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01:33:29,320 --> 01:33:32,360
Speaker 10: we're it's basically called an acinity program. And certainly they

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01:33:32,360 --> 01:33:34,760
Speaker 10: have them with the hospitals, they have them with with

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01:33:34,960 --> 01:33:39,000
Speaker 10: UC and we're used to if we're working with the

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01:33:39,040 --> 01:33:42,920
Speaker 10: relocation company bringing someone in with Procter and Gamble, we're

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01:33:43,080 --> 01:33:46,040
Speaker 10: used to paying a referral fee for that business. And

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01:33:46,080 --> 01:33:49,280
Speaker 10: certainly it's not ideal and some agents like to do it,

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01:33:49,400 --> 01:33:52,240
Speaker 10: some agents don't like to do it, but it's certainly

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01:33:52,280 --> 01:33:55,559
Speaker 10: a part of our business model. We're independent contractors. Either

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Speaker 10: you do it or you don't. But these referral fees

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Speaker 10: can be anywhere between thirty five and forty five percent

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Speaker 10: of the commission that's earned in the sale. So yeah,

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Speaker 10: people are going to say, how are you going to

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Speaker 10: pay for this? Aaron, Well, we've got an industry that's

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Speaker 10: willing to participate. And I'll tell you I've I've talked

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Speaker 10: to local people here at Carbell Banker. You know, we're

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01:34:17,600 --> 01:34:19,360
Speaker 10: a big company. It has to go up to the flagpole.

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Speaker 10: But I talked to Scott Nelson, who's a dear friend

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Speaker 10: of mine, in a brilliant mind in real estate. He

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01:34:25,720 --> 01:34:29,000
Speaker 10: loved the idea has to obviously think through the strategics

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Speaker 10: of it, and I'm sure Sis Decline haven't talked to

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01:34:31,600 --> 01:34:33,479
Speaker 10: them yet and a lot of the other agents what

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Speaker 10: would have follow So yes, it's something that we as

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Speaker 10: an industry I think can easily do. And like I

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01:34:38,720 --> 01:34:40,760
Speaker 10: said in the beginning of the show, I wanted to

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Speaker 10: do something that I could do. I wanted to have

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Speaker 10: action plans, and this is what I know clearly.

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Speaker 1: And we're not talking about a massive volume of money here.

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01:34:49,600 --> 01:34:52,280
Speaker 1: I mean, how many police officers do we have collectively

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Speaker 1: It's around nine hundred. We need about twelve hundred or so,

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Speaker 1: So the number of people that would be able to

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Speaker 1: participate in this is not significant in terms of loss

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Speaker 1: of commission. So I I it's sound proposal. I really

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Speaker 1: do believe erin Now. The other thing, yeah, I know,

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Speaker 1: it's it makes great sense to me and officers who

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Speaker 1: choose to reside in Since any one final component of

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Speaker 1: that plan a thousand dollars annual residency bonus, I think

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Speaker 1: that seems to be quite doable.

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Speaker 10: Absolutely, absolutely, and honestly I want to offer this to

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01:35:21,720 --> 01:35:26,760
Speaker 10: the police office that are currently starving our city, but

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01:35:26,840 --> 01:35:29,519
Speaker 10: maybe live out in the suburbs. Let's let's give let's

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01:35:29,600 --> 01:35:31,360
Speaker 10: let's give it to them too. Let's bring them into

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01:35:31,360 --> 01:35:32,960
Speaker 10: the city as well. I mean, we want people in

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01:35:32,960 --> 01:35:35,759
Speaker 10: the city to let let's bring them there too. Maybe

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01:35:35,800 --> 01:35:38,519
Speaker 10: maybe someone who lives in Green Township. They're empty nesters,

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01:35:38,760 --> 01:35:40,840
Speaker 10: Let's bring them to one of our condos downtown something

1742
01:35:40,880 --> 01:35:42,800
Speaker 10: like that. Let's let's let's offer that to them too.

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01:35:42,840 --> 01:35:45,640
Speaker 10: And I definitely want to expand on this. It's a

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01:35:45,640 --> 01:35:48,839
Speaker 10: pilot program. Let's let's open it up to our fire

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01:35:49,920 --> 01:35:52,000
Speaker 10: at some point. Let's let's maybe talk about do we

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01:35:52,040 --> 01:35:55,040
Speaker 10: want this for teachers again, Let's it's bringing leadership into

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01:35:55,080 --> 01:35:58,960
Speaker 10: the city for for these these long term goals. So

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01:35:59,120 --> 01:36:01,840
Speaker 10: this is this is where I see this going long term.

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01:36:01,840 --> 01:36:03,760
Speaker 10: But this is my pilot right now.

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Speaker 1: Fair enough, now we are losing experienced officers. I am

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01:36:08,400 --> 01:36:11,519
Speaker 1: painfully aware of people officers who are in the drop program,

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01:36:11,560 --> 01:36:14,160
Speaker 1: which I think the last about five years, they're just saying,

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01:36:14,240 --> 01:36:17,000
Speaker 1: forget about it. I'm done, I can't handle this anymore.

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01:36:17,040 --> 01:36:19,280
Speaker 1: I'm dropping out a drop and I'm just going to retire,

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Speaker 1: or they're leaving for other police forces. Going back to

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01:36:23,200 --> 01:36:25,439
Speaker 1: this lateral higher phenomenon, if you're a sin Sat police

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01:36:25,479 --> 01:36:28,200
Speaker 1: officers some other jurisdiction would love to have you working

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Speaker 1: for them. So how do we deal with this? You

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Speaker 1: have an officer retention incentive strategy to address this problem.

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Speaker 10: Correct, correct, So there's several facets to that as well.

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Speaker 10: And just to give a background, so you only got

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Speaker 10: like three pages of three or four pages of this report,

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01:36:44,720 --> 01:36:47,960
Speaker 10: and it's a fifteen page report that we've done research

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Speaker 10: on me and my staff and it's working in different

1765
01:36:51,320 --> 01:36:54,799
Speaker 10: in different cities like Baltimore and Detroit and Los Angeles

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01:36:54,800 --> 01:36:57,519
Speaker 10: and there have you. So we're used to hearing the

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01:36:58,040 --> 01:37:01,200
Speaker 10: people who are getting buyofs to tire early. Well, this

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01:37:01,280 --> 01:37:03,280
Speaker 10: is a buy in, So this is this is sort

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Speaker 10: of paying people to stay longer. Just to give you

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Speaker 10: some data. So let's say you're you're getting ready to retire.

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Speaker 10: Maybe you'll get five thousand dollars if you stay an

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01:37:14,560 --> 01:37:18,599
Speaker 10: extra year, Maybe you stay three additional years as we

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01:37:18,720 --> 01:37:22,720
Speaker 10: ramp up on our staffing, up to twelve thousand dollars

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01:37:22,840 --> 01:37:29,200
Speaker 10: to stay instead of leave. It involves one time retention

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01:37:29,920 --> 01:37:34,920
Speaker 10: retention dollars. Let's say you're maybe you're working in a

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01:37:34,960 --> 01:37:40,000
Speaker 10: more stressful location of the city and you're thinking about.

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01:37:40,160 --> 01:37:44,120
Speaker 10: It's a one time incentive, targeted incentives. This is focused

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Speaker 10: on retention for officers with the five to fifteen years experience, who,

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01:37:47,040 --> 01:37:49,920
Speaker 10: like you said, might be attracted to go to Blue

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Speaker 10: ash or Green Township or Springfield Township where I grew up.

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Speaker 10: So these are just some of the ways of of

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01:37:57,920 --> 01:38:03,600
Speaker 10: keeping people rewarding them for staying on and investing in

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Speaker 10: our city.

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Speaker 1: You know what an interesting concept erin. I know that

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01:38:08,000 --> 01:38:10,320
Speaker 1: there are private businesses out in the world who offer

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01:38:10,720 --> 01:38:14,639
Speaker 1: bonuses annually for you know, valuable employees. It's a wonderful

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01:38:14,640 --> 01:38:16,559
Speaker 1: thing to know that if you have a big bonus potential,

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01:38:16,560 --> 01:38:18,760
Speaker 1: it kind of keeps you on your toes and gives

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01:38:18,800 --> 01:38:20,640
Speaker 1: you an incentive to work a little bit harder. So

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Speaker 1: I have no fault with paying our police officers a

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01:38:23,600 --> 01:38:25,200
Speaker 1: little bit more, and I like the idea of keeping

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Speaker 1: them around longer. The experience is so so important. Aaron Winer,

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Speaker 1: it's a winerforth Cincinnati dot Com. You know, how's the

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01:38:33,680 --> 01:38:36,160
Speaker 1: campaign going. You're running as a charter right and I

1795
01:38:36,439 --> 01:38:39,040
Speaker 1: know you're a great alternative to the status quo we've

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01:38:39,040 --> 01:38:41,360
Speaker 1: got on counsel. How you feeling out there as you

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01:38:41,400 --> 01:38:43,320
Speaker 1: go from neighborhood to neighborhood and campaigning.

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Speaker 10: You know, you know, I feel great, and truthfully, this

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01:38:47,439 --> 01:38:49,599
Speaker 10: has been has been a great experience for me. I'm

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Speaker 10: getting a lot of good reception. I'm listening to people,

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01:38:55,439 --> 01:38:58,880
Speaker 10: I'm hearing their concerns. People are saying they hear they see,

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Speaker 10: they've seen my name, they've heard me on the radio,

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Speaker 10: they've read about me. And also, I you know, I'm

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Speaker 10: immersed in a lot of different communities throughout the city,

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01:39:08,680 --> 01:39:11,000
Speaker 10: and I've been involved in a lot of different things

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Speaker 10: through throughout my lifetime, so I feel like my exposure

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01:39:14,360 --> 01:39:17,040
Speaker 10: is good. I would say in terms of the new candidates,

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Speaker 10: I'm probably one of the strongest, if not the strongest.

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Speaker 10: So I feel good.

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Speaker 1: Bold statement that's great erin I'm glad you're that it's

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01:39:24,720 --> 01:39:26,920
Speaker 1: all working out for you and you an impressive resume,

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01:39:26,920 --> 01:39:29,160
Speaker 1: and I'll strongly encourage my listeners to check out your

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01:39:29,200 --> 01:39:31,439
Speaker 1: website and look what you've been up to for the

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01:39:31,479 --> 01:39:34,240
Speaker 1: last twenty five years. Fourth generation in Cincinnati, and you're

1815
01:39:34,280 --> 01:39:36,519
Speaker 1: involved in a lot of different things, including you have

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01:39:36,520 --> 01:39:39,000
Speaker 1: a history in connection with the Cincinni Public schools. Apparently

1817
01:39:39,040 --> 01:39:41,720
Speaker 1: your mom a retired special education teacher with since a

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01:39:41,840 --> 01:39:44,840
Speaker 1: public schools, so you have connection there, but also on

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Speaker 1: the boards of the Jewish Community Center, the Jewish Federation

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01:39:47,280 --> 01:39:49,240
Speaker 1: of Cincinnati. You served on the board of governors for

1821
01:39:49,320 --> 01:39:52,280
Speaker 1: the Human Rights Campaign, on and on and on. A

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Speaker 1: demonstrably strong record and some sound ideas for policing. Aaron,

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Speaker 1: It's been a pleasure speaking with you again, and I

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Speaker 1: hope we get a chance to talk again before the

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Speaker 1: li in November. And a reminder to listeners, early voting

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Speaker 1: is open. Get over to the Board of Elections, cast

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01:40:06,439 --> 01:40:09,040
Speaker 1: the vote for the ones that count, not all nine.

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Speaker 1: I suggest maybe throwing a vote Aaron Weiner's way. Aaron,

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Speaker 1: good talking with the great ideas, and I'll look forward

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Speaker 1: to talking to you again real soon.

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Speaker 10: Thank you, Thank you for the opportunity my.

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Speaker 1: Fifty three fifty five kannasy De talk station. Looking forward

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Speaker 1: to the inside scoop after the top of the r

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Speaker 1: new is always looking forward to that Trump in the

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Speaker 1: Middle East peace, that's the subject matter with White House

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Speaker 1: correspondent Nick Gilberts and plus Daniel Davis deep dive. Yes,

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Speaker 1: he will talk about the Middle East and peace question mark.

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Speaker 1: A lot of details to iron out, but the world

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Speaker 1: seems to be celebrating and obviously given Donald Trump a

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01:40:38,240 --> 01:40:40,280
Speaker 1: bit of a credit for that, But it was a

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Speaker 1: whole series of events that sort of the stars aligne

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Speaker 1: that forced Hamas into a corner, and not a good

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Speaker 1: corner for Hamas. They cite better relations between the United

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Speaker 1: States Turkey gave Trump the leverage among countries with ties

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Speaker 1: to Hamas. Let's point it out, many of the Gulf

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Speaker 1: states a little bit of alarm that the war might

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Speaker 1: endanger the our own security, notably because the Israeli airstrike

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Speaker 1: against the Hamas in Cutter. No one saw that coming.

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Speaker 1: Cutters like, whoa, whoa, whoa, what's the deal here? We're

1850
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Speaker 1: getting bombed. Hmm, this is a problem. Hamas is in

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Speaker 1: our neighborhood and Israelers are coming after him. Allah Donald

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Speaker 1: Trump and his air strikes into countries against whom we

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Speaker 1: have no declaration of war. Interesting develop that development that

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Speaker 1: Hamas was undergrowing pressure at home, no money, not able

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Speaker 1: to keep up the grilla warfare against the Israeli forces

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Speaker 1: which really rolled over at Gaza. And in the aftermath

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Speaker 1: of Hamas entering this deal, you can see that there

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Speaker 1: are factions fighting amongst themselves. People that you thought were

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Speaker 1: all aligned together under the Hamas umbrella really not a

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Speaker 1: bunch of splitter organizations out there, and they're fighting amongst themselves.

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Speaker 1: Benjamin Natanyahu had to publicly agree to end the war,

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Speaker 1: and that helped Hamas realize that, oh my god, we're

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Speaker 1: the lone holdout man. We're losing. The world's turning against us.

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Speaker 1: By the fact, you may have some pro Hamas protesters

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Speaker 1: in the streets of New York or elsewhere here in

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Speaker 1: the United States, those college educated, woke youngsters aren't enough

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Speaker 1: to change the tide for Hamas. So the stars align,

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Speaker 1: you can say it's divine or not. Progress is being made,

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Speaker 1: and that is a beautiful thing to behold. I'm looking

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Speaker 1: forward to what Daniel Davis has by way of analysis

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Speaker 1: on that at the bottom of the next hour. Of course,

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Speaker 1: we'll be talking about that with Nick Gilbertson as well.

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Speaker 1: Seven fifty five right now fifty five K Steve Talks Station.

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Speaker 1: And I apologize I mentioned when I started out the program,

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Speaker 1: and I also commented on the six o'clock hour, got

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Speaker 1: this dizzy reality going on. I don't know what it is.

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Speaker 1: It's like vertigo, you know what think I'm glad I

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01:42:47,800 --> 01:42:51,960
Speaker 1: set it out round positional vertigo. My friend John just

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01:42:51,960 --> 01:42:54,680
Speaker 1: said he's got that, and there's a maneuver you can

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Speaker 1: do called the Epply maneuver to get rid of it.

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Speaker 1: But it's like you're dizzy for some reason. I don't

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Speaker 1: have allergies. I'm not having any problems with my health

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Speaker 1: or anything, but I'm just feeling that way. I think

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Speaker 1: you hit the nail on the head. For whoever called

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Speaker 1: first and said maybe it's positional vertigo, I think that's it.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna do the Apple maneuver when I get off

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Speaker 1: the program. Hopefully I'll solve this problem. I don't want

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Speaker 1: to deal with it much more again, or at least

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Speaker 1: I have a way out of it, but learn something

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Speaker 1: every day and I'm included on that. So Inside Scoop

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Speaker 1: coming up next. I hope you can stick around today.

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Speaker 12: It's tough headlines coming on.

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Speaker 10: What's happening.

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Speaker 8: You know what's going on around town, around the country.

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Speaker 2: I need to know the weather in traffic. Listen and

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Speaker 2: you'll know.

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Speaker 1: On fifty five KRC talkstation eight o six Here fifty

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Speaker 1: five KRRC E talkstation. It's Tuesday, which means it is

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Speaker 1: time for the inside scoop. Head on over to the

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Speaker 1: T B A RT dot com, Bookmark Breitbart dot com

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Speaker 1: and do what I do, which is check it out

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Speaker 1: every single day. I do it in preparation for the

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Speaker 1: fifty five KRCCEN Morning show. Always reading what White House

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Speaker 1: correspondent Nick Gilbertson's writing about. Welcome back, Nick Gilbert soon

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Speaker 1: writing on Trump in the Middle East. Piece you ever

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Speaker 1: thought you'd see today. You got two dozen world leaders,

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Speaker 1: big ones too, Egyptian President, the amer Cutter, you got

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Speaker 1: the Turkish president. They're all standing there signing documents to

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Speaker 1: put an end to this ridiculous war between Israel and Gaza.

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Speaker 1: It's an amazing accomplishment. Nick, Welcome back. It's good to

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Speaker 1: hear from me this morning.

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Speaker 4: Hey Brian, it's great to be here. And certainly, yeah,

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Speaker 4: I know it's I think this is Trump's crowning achievement

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Speaker 4: thus far in his term. And you know, it's pretty amazing.

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Speaker 4: I think some thirty countries were there, yes, from all

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Speaker 4: over the world, so just really remarkable, remarkable stuff and what.

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Speaker 1: To show you to be And there's a lot of

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Speaker 1: details that need to be ironed out. I know one

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Speaker 1: of the remains of the deceased hostages, which is sad

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Speaker 1: in and of itself that we were talking about. You know,

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Speaker 1: they didn't even keep the hostages alive. A lot of

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Speaker 1: them died, so we've got that really black mark on

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Speaker 1: the whole process. But finding the remains of the balance

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Speaker 1: of them. Hamas claims that it doesn doesn't even know

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Speaker 1: where they are. There's so many different I suppose factions

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Speaker 1: of Hamas out in the world. They're fighting amongst themselves now.

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Speaker 1: But are these like splitter groups within the Hamas umbrella

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Speaker 1: that are keeping these the dead hostages.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think at this point there's been so all

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Speaker 4: twenty of the living hostages were you know, returned right

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Speaker 4: day and reunited. But I know they were saying that

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Speaker 4: there were twenty eight they believed the presidents of last

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Speaker 4: week that were still or that were deceased tragically horrifically,

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Speaker 4: and I know they returned. For of the deceased, I

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Speaker 4: don't think they've been identified yet those remained, so by deduction,

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Speaker 4: there there's twenty four bodies that need to be you know,

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Speaker 4: relocated and recovered and brought home and returned to their

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Speaker 4: loved ones.

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Speaker 1: Do we know right now? One of the original terms

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Speaker 1: of the twenty point plan that Donald Trump rolled out

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Speaker 1: was Hamas must disarm. A question have they agreed to

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Speaker 1: do that? And second question is sort of a follow

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Speaker 1: up to the where are the dead hostages? If AMAS

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Speaker 1: doesn't even know within its multiple splitter organizations where the

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Speaker 1: dead hostages are, can it really agree on behalf of

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Speaker 1: you know, like the I don't know campaign for Free

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Speaker 1: Galilee subset of Hamas. Can they guarantee that all of

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Speaker 1: these different entities would disarm?

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Speaker 4: That's a that's a great question, Brian. I know the

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Speaker 4: President said yesterday and these other countries that were kind

1952
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Speaker 4: of intra are key here in bringing.

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Speaker 9: This deal about.

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Speaker 11: And I know, uh, you know, like Egypt.

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Speaker 4: Turkey, Qatar, all those other countries. President Trump, when when

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Speaker 4: he was talking about supporting Gaza yesterday, he put a

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Speaker 4: major emphasis on militarization of Gaz, you know, of of

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Speaker 4: of the police or rather of Gozzin's and he was

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Speaker 4: talking about a police force that would kind of, you know,

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Speaker 4: be be separate and kind of you know, keep order

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Speaker 4: in Gaza, but a heavy emphasis on demilitarization. And I

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Speaker 4: think the term you used was an honest civilian police

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Speaker 4: force to create, you know, a safe condition for the

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Speaker 4: people in Gaza. So I know that's where we put

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Speaker 4: a heavy emphasis on. So again, we'll see and this

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Speaker 4: is all very you know, as this piece still, I

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Speaker 4: think they're on step six or seven somewhere in yeah,

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Speaker 4: or seven or eight. So yeah, this as this goes on,

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Speaker 4: I mean, so far, so good, right, But you know,

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Speaker 4: we'll see how things continue to work out.

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Speaker 1: Well, Nick, And I hate to be honest with you.

1972
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Speaker 1: I I want to be very optimistic, but I'm old

1973
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Speaker 1: enough to remember. You know, everyone in every presidential administration

1974
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Speaker 1: since I've been born has been trying to negotiate peace

1975
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Speaker 1: in the Middle East. It doesn't often and hardly ever,

1976
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Speaker 1: if ever works out. I know with the Abraham Korns,

1977
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Speaker 1: Donald Trump made some really great inroads in getting folks

1978
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Speaker 1: to play nicely together for their own economic benefit. I mean,

1979
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Speaker 1: who can argue with that.

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Speaker 12: Ye.

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Speaker 1: Hey, if we quit fighting and spending all of our

1982
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Speaker 1: money on guns and military, we might have booming economies.

1983
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Speaker 1: There's an idea. But how do you feel about this

1984
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Speaker 1: going forward? The devil's always in the details, as I've

1985
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Speaker 1: said too many times, But you got six of the

1986
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Speaker 1: steps toward twenty being accomplished, and there's some large stumbling blocks,

1987
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Speaker 1: notably disarmament. And then how much of the of the

1988
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Speaker 1: gods of territories is Israel going to control if any

1989
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Speaker 1: and who's going to govern lord knows they need better

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Speaker 1: government than Hamas. So what about those items?

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Speaker 4: Nick, Yeah, absolutely, I think I think one thing that

1992
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Speaker 4: is good that you know, they have going for them here.

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Speaker 4: Everybody in the steel has going for them as the

1994
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Speaker 4: presence of President Trump. And I think, you know, Secretary

1995
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Speaker 4: of State Marco Rubio down to Special Envoy Steve Witcoff, right,

1996
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Speaker 4: And I think as they go along through this, if

1997
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Speaker 4: there are any hiccups, I think, you know, these are

1998
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Speaker 4: very competent people, and I think they've shown that they can,

1999
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Speaker 4: you know, bring different people to the table kind of

2000
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Speaker 4: work things out between them, whether it be the character,

2001
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Speaker 4: the stick right, And I think that that's a that's

2002
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Speaker 4: a that's a critical thing here, and that's something we

2003
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Speaker 4: certainly didn't see in the last administration. That couldn't even

2004
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Speaker 4: you know, get the ball rolling any anywhere close to

2005
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Speaker 4: a potential piece deal here. And uh so I think,

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Speaker 4: you know, yeah, we'll we'll see how it all shakes

2007
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Speaker 4: out again. Everything's you know, very tensitive here, but I

2008
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Speaker 4: think so far.

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Speaker 3: So good.

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Speaker 4: And uh, I think that was such a strong showing

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Speaker 4: yesterday too in the region to have all those different

2012
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Speaker 4: leaders kind of kind of come together, you know, I

2013
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Speaker 4: think it's I think it's a very promising sign and

2014
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Speaker 4: a positive one. So that's that's that's what I can

2015
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Speaker 4: share that well.

2016
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Speaker 1: And I suppose that there was a lot of maybe

2017
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Speaker 1: i'll use the word pressure, whether or not was pressure

2018
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Speaker 1: or not to get all of those world leaders to

2019
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Speaker 1: appear this sort of as a massive showing of force

2020
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Speaker 1: against Hamas. The rest of the world is on one

2021
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Speaker 1: side of the argument, you're on the other. I mean,

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Speaker 1: you're in a losing position Hamas. I think that was

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Speaker 1: on full display yesterday.

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Speaker 4: Absolutely you had countries represented from from every single continent.

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Speaker 4: I think even the President of Paraguay was there yesterday.

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Speaker 7: From the all.

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Speaker 4: Important but I think that just goes to show what

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Speaker 4: a what a broad coalition of countries were present yesterday.

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Speaker 4: And then you know, you had all these not just Trump, right,

2030
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Speaker 4: but you had Western leaders from uh, you know, I

2031
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Speaker 4: think Native Secretary General Secretary Mark Mark Rudy. You had

2032
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Speaker 4: Italian Prime Minister Georgia Maloney, uh uh, Keir Starmer, the

2033
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Speaker 4: British Prime Minister Emmanuel McCrone from France, Mark Carney from Canada.

2034
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Speaker 4: So really, you know, you have the Western world involved.

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Speaker 4: You had all these countries from Asia as well.

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Speaker 3: I believe you.

2037
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Speaker 4: Had a Japan over there, and then even countries that

2038
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Speaker 4: Trump has already broken peace deals with, right so our

2039
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Speaker 4: media Azerbaijan, they were there together. Trump just ended, you know,

2040
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Speaker 4: I believe a thirty plus a or something war between

2041
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Speaker 4: those two countries a few months ago, one of you know,

2042
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Speaker 4: seven deals he's made that have held up between countries,

2043
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Speaker 4: but leading up to this right between you know, bringing

2044
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Speaker 4: him as to the table and getting them to accept

2045
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Speaker 4: this deal.

2046
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Speaker 3: So you know, he's got eight so far.

2047
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Speaker 4: Under his belt since returning to office in January, kind

2048
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Speaker 4: of averaging one a month here, and I think, you know,

2049
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Speaker 4: this is a granddaddy of them all so far.

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Speaker 1: It is truly remarkable, Nick, As you run through that,

2051
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Speaker 1: it's just absolutely amazing in such a short period of time.

2052
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Speaker 1: You know, I can be a critic of Donald Trump

2053
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Speaker 1: from time to time, and everybody is worthy of some

2054
01:51:57,200 --> 01:52:00,599
Speaker 1: measure of criticism. No one walks on water. But I mean,

2055
01:52:01,080 --> 01:52:03,760
Speaker 1: just since January of this year, how much he's been

2056
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Speaker 1: able to accomplish. I mean, I don't know. I just

2057
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Speaker 1: I'm amazed at what this, what Donald Trump has been

2058
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Speaker 1: able to do. And the other component of this, which

2059
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Speaker 1: is allowed for this peace process to move forward, Egypt

2060
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Speaker 1: finally opened its border up so we can have the

2061
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Speaker 1: flow of humanity going back and forth into the region.

2062
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Speaker 1: That that was a huge hurdle.

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Speaker 4: Absolutely, And I think that that goes to show too

2064
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Speaker 4: how President Trump's relationship with SISI over there is just

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Speaker 4: very different from how Obama and Biden kind of alienated

2066
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Speaker 4: Egypt does an ally. And so you know, again, I

2067
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Speaker 4: think it goes to show Trump Trump being the ultimate

2068
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Speaker 4: deal maker and pragmatists. He works with what he has, right,

2069
01:52:44,479 --> 01:52:47,720
Speaker 4: what do you give him? And you know, he's very

2070
01:52:47,720 --> 01:52:52,000
Speaker 4: good at understanding what's going to motivate people and what won't.

2071
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Speaker 4: And I we've literally seen this from him for the

2072
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Speaker 4: past what fifty years, going back to his part his

2073
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Speaker 4: private sector days, you know, when he was kind of

2074
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Speaker 4: repainting the skyline there in New York City. So for me, it's, uh,

2075
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Speaker 4: it's it's truly remarkable stuff. And uh yeah, it's it's

2076
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Speaker 4: it's quite something.

2077
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Speaker 1: Well, I'll tell you what I think to go.

2078
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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, and I think too, you know, I just

2079
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Speaker 4: people forget to Like two months ago he just like

2080
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Speaker 4: brokeer this amazing or rather historic trade deal between the

2081
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Speaker 4: European Union and in the United States. I think, uh,

2082
01:53:31,000 --> 01:53:35,080
Speaker 4: you know, just just whether it be deadlines. He hit

2083
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Speaker 4: himas with this this pretty pretty uh serious statement on

2084
01:53:39,600 --> 01:53:42,479
Speaker 4: October thirties, like he said, look, this is the last

2085
01:53:42,560 --> 01:53:45,720
Speaker 4: chance for a master agree or quote all hell like

2086
01:53:45,760 --> 01:53:48,080
Speaker 4: no one has ever seen will break out against them, right,

2087
01:53:48,720 --> 01:53:50,960
Speaker 4: and you know, within a couple hours you get them

2088
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Speaker 4: agreeing to come to the table. And and we've seen

2089
01:53:53,760 --> 01:53:56,160
Speaker 4: just Trump use the deadline over and over and over again,

2090
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Speaker 4: whether it be with tariffs, whether it be with his

2091
01:53:58,920 --> 01:54:03,840
Speaker 4: legislative agenda, one big beautiful bill. He's very good at

2092
01:54:03,840 --> 01:54:07,320
Speaker 4: this and bringing different sides together and getting them to

2093
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Speaker 4: agree to that.

2094
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Speaker 1: Well, Nick, because he follows through, unlike Barack Obama, who

2095
01:54:11,680 --> 01:54:14,200
Speaker 1: drew red lines left and right, never did bother do

2096
01:54:14,280 --> 01:54:16,840
Speaker 1: anything after someone crossed the red lines, almost in open

2097
01:54:16,880 --> 01:54:19,439
Speaker 1: defiance of Barack Obama, and to a certain degree, to

2098
01:54:19,479 --> 01:54:21,920
Speaker 1: the extent Joe Biden did anything. No one paid any

2099
01:54:21,920 --> 01:54:23,720
Speaker 1: attention to what he was doing. I mean, if you

2100
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Speaker 1: don't listen to Trump, he tells you exactly what he's

2101
01:54:26,120 --> 01:54:28,519
Speaker 1: gonna do and then pull then delivers on it. So yeah,

2102
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Speaker 1: I think that all hell's going to break. Luke's comment

2103
01:54:31,240 --> 01:54:34,120
Speaker 1: in the wake of an aftermath of him bombing the

2104
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Speaker 1: hell out of Iran with those bunker busters, with Israel

2105
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Speaker 1: bombing Cutter, with whom they have no adversarial relationship. If

2106
01:54:42,360 --> 01:54:44,480
Speaker 1: you got Hamas in your house, We're going to come

2107
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Speaker 1: after your house. I mean, these are all realities that

2108
01:54:47,080 --> 01:54:51,520
Speaker 1: everybody was facing. So yes, a strong president who delivers

2109
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Speaker 1: on his red lines needs to be taken seriously. Let

2110
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Speaker 1: me ask you this along those lines, Nick, what does

2111
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Speaker 1: Iran make of this? If you can, yes, and I

2112
01:55:00,640 --> 01:55:02,640
Speaker 1: want to put you on the spot. But Iran's got

2113
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Speaker 1: to be I think a little bit uh concerned about

2114
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Speaker 1: these developments.

2115
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think you know this isn't good for Iran.

2116
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Speaker 4: Yesterday and they're dealing with these massive sanctions. You know,

2117
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Speaker 4: Trump just kind of set there or you know, made

2118
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Speaker 4: their neutralized their nuclear program a few months ago with

2119
01:55:20,400 --> 01:55:23,560
Speaker 4: those strikes on Foord and a tons Esbaham like you

2120
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Speaker 4: were like you were saying, and that you know, sends

2121
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Speaker 4: a message to everybody else too, that's the side thing.

2122
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Speaker 4: But yeah, I think, uh, you know this that you

2123
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Speaker 4: have all these countries in the region and you know,

2124
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Speaker 4: kind of pushing towards a stabilized region, pushing towards peace.

2125
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Speaker 4: And you know when we see this, this happened with

2126
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Speaker 4: Hamas yesterday. I mean if if I think that goes

2127
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Speaker 4: to show that, you know, Hamas is a cell essentially

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Speaker 4: right of Iran. They get funding from there, they traditionally did,

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Speaker 4: so I think that goes to show, you know, the

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Speaker 4: weakness of Iran. Know, the President Trump said yesterday he

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Speaker 4: thinks Iran what wants to make a deal, wants to

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Speaker 4: come along and make a deal eventually. So he was

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Speaker 4: kind of said, look, uh, you know, I I hope

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Speaker 4: to talk to them and eventually right when they want

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Speaker 4: to come to the table. And he said he wants

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Speaker 4: to take the sanctions off and he wants to see

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Speaker 4: Iran prosper, also noting too, like they can't survive with

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Speaker 4: with these massive sanctions they're facing. So basically seriously, you know,

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Speaker 4: using using the stick, they're pretty heavy also offering the

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Speaker 4: carrot in terms of, you know, wanting to bring them

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Speaker 4: middle wanting to bring them into you know, uh uh, you.

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Speaker 1: Know, a peaceful coalition.

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Speaker 9: Exactly, exactly.

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Speaker 4: You've got the words for me. But President Trump said

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Speaker 4: yesterday too, I think, you know, the Middle East incredible destiny,

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Speaker 4: and he said is a safe and prosperous, beautiful crossroad

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Speaker 4: of culture and commerce, faith in humanity, and a geographic center.

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Speaker 4: He also said it could be the geographic center of

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Speaker 4: the world. So I think that goes to show his vision.

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Speaker 4: And that's that's also you know, I ran could go

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Speaker 4: down that path. I think if if they made an

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Speaker 4: honest and earnest effort and showed President Trump that they

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Speaker 4: wanted to, then again, if they don't want to, you know,

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Speaker 4: you can see President trumpell. You know, we'll do what

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Speaker 4: he feels he needs to do.

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Speaker 1: Right clearly well, and you know, honestly, if you step

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Speaker 1: back from whatever is driving and motivating them, and I would,

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Speaker 1: I would say, it's obviously it's hatred toward Israel, it's

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Speaker 1: religious fundamentalism. There is the core of their problems. If

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Speaker 1: they just walked away from that ideology and said all right,

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Speaker 1: we're going to be Muslims. We're going to be Islamic,

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Speaker 1: We're going to be you know, enjoy our own faith.

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Speaker 1: But you know what, it's not worth fighting with our

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Speaker 1: next door neighbor. It's costing us. It's our economy's ruin.

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Speaker 1: We have nothing to show for all this war for

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Speaker 1: decades and decades, if not centuries. If we just put

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Speaker 1: down our war weapons machine and just start talking about

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Speaker 1: commerce in industry, we're going to have a healthy, prosperous

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Speaker 1: country and we can just abide our own religion, within

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Speaker 1: our own within the four corners of our own country.

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Speaker 1: Problem solved.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that's that's literally the easiest route for

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Speaker 4: them to take, right Like, you know, but obviously, you know,

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Speaker 4: there's there's all sorts of years of fundamentalism that have

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Speaker 4: taken place, all sorts of youths that were raised under

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Speaker 4: this too. So again, you know, it's it's it's you know,

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Speaker 4: it's kind of hard to read the tea leaves, but

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Speaker 4: it's it looks peace looks promising right now, especially after yesterday,

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Speaker 4: especially that show of unity. You know, you have again

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Speaker 4: from around the globe, every single continent essentially represent maybe

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Speaker 4: not Australia, right, But uh yeah, I think it shows

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Speaker 4: a show of unity and the show where everybody wants

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Speaker 4: this to go and everybody's kind of on the same

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Speaker 4: page here. And I think the key is those other

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Speaker 4: Arab countries in the region that are you know, brought

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Speaker 4: into this prosperous coalition already as you said, and you know,

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Speaker 4: want to uphold that and even broad in it, expand it.

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Speaker 4: And look, I think if you can bring peace to

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Speaker 4: the region too, Like, imagine what this does for a

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Speaker 4: potential trade route maybe right again, or what could mean

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Speaker 4: for that. I know much was made in the first

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Speaker 4: term about a potential iMac corridor, right, and that run

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Speaker 4: from India through the Middle East, through Europe and the

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Speaker 4: United States. So you know, peace in the Middle East

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Speaker 4: would be massive for that. And I'm sure China's a

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Speaker 4: little worried about about what happened yesterday too, So pretty

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Speaker 4: interesting stuff.

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Speaker 1: Hey, doors wide open for peace. Everyone prospers with peace,

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Speaker 1: read about it every single day. White House correspondent Nick

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Speaker 1: Gilbertson always a wonderful conversation with you. I appreciate you

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Speaker 1: and everybody at Breitbart is doing each day. And again

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Speaker 1: we'll encourage my listeners the bookmark your website Breitbart dot com. Nick.

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Speaker 1: Until we talk again, have a great day and week.

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Speaker 4: My friend, you too, Brian, thanks again for having me.

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Speaker 1: Always a pleasure. Eight twenty two Right now, stick around

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Speaker 1: the Daniel David.

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Speaker 2: Fifty five KARC the Talk Station, a twenty.

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Speaker 1: Nine to fifty five krsite talk station. Tuesday means his

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Speaker 1: time for the alliterative podcast Daniel Davis Deep Dive. I'll

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Speaker 1: encourage my listeners to check that out wherever they get

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Speaker 1: their podcasts, and always tune in at this time and

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Speaker 1: Tuesdays on the fifty five krsee morning show. Welcome back,

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Speaker 1: retired Lieutenant Colonel Daniel Davis Deep Dive boy, and we've

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Speaker 1: got a lot to talk about today. Good to see

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Speaker 1: you again. I get to see it good here. It's

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Speaker 1: a pleasure. Well, the whole world was on full display yesterday.

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Speaker 1: I had representatives from I think every country or every

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Speaker 1: continent rather except Australia showing up for the Well the

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Speaker 1: initial signing of what looks like, dare I even say

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Speaker 1: the words out loud, peace in the Middle East, at

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Speaker 1: least between Israel and Hamas. What an amazing development. Your

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Speaker 1: reaction on this. The stars clearly aligned for a variety

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Speaker 1: of different reasons which allowed this to come together. But

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Speaker 1: I think the idea that you've got what I will

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Speaker 1: characterize as the world the leaders from the world on

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Speaker 1: one side, and you've got Hamas obviously isolated from a

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Speaker 1: global perception they were backed into a corner.

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Speaker 13: Well, they were in your right that there were many,

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Speaker 13: many reasons why this came together. I would say at

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Speaker 13: the outset that I would not go as far as

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Speaker 13: to say peace. I would say that the end of

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Speaker 13: the hostilities have happened, and there is a shot at peace.

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Speaker 13: But even within the terms that are set out here,

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Speaker 13: there is a two phased operation. Phase one was basically

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Speaker 13: a ceasefire and a return of the hostages from both sides,

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Speaker 13: which has taken place.

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Speaker 17: But Phase two hasn't even been.

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Speaker 13: Negotiated yet, and there's still a lot of problems to

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Speaker 13: go with that.

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Speaker 17: So I don't want to get too optimistic, but I am.

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Speaker 13: Incredibly grateful and happy that this is hostilities has happened,

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Speaker 13: because I've always said, you've got to get the killing

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Speaker 13: of the innocent people stopped first to even have a

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Speaker 13: shot at an enduring peace, and it's going to be

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Speaker 13: really hard, but Listen, we got to give props to

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Speaker 13: President Trump because he put It's not just that Hamas

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Speaker 13: was isolated, they've been oscillated. It's also that President Trump

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Speaker 13: was willing to put pressure in both directions on Hamas

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Speaker 13: and on the Israeli side. Because this you'd certainly know,

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Speaker 13: there's many on the Israeli side that did not want

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Speaker 13: a cease fire.

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Speaker 17: They only wanted a military victory.

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Speaker 13: So everybody had to give a little something to get here,

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Speaker 13: and President Trump put the pressure wherever it needed, and

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Speaker 13: then he got the support from all those countries across

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Speaker 13: the world, like you mentioned, So he gets full props

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Speaker 13: for that and our great hope that this.

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Speaker 17: Does translate into an enduring peace.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and no one is more hesitant to declare peace

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Speaker 1: in the Middle East than me, Sir. I've been down

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Speaker 1: this before, the road before, only to be met with disappointment.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, as I've repeatedly said on the show, here,

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Speaker 1: devil's in the details. One of those devils though, talking

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Speaker 1: about you know, getting the players negotiate getting the border

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Speaker 1: with Egypt open to allow the back and forth flow

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Speaker 1: of humanity and humanitarian relief, and that was a big

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Speaker 1: step as well.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was.

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Speaker 13: And then in fact this I think that they're getting

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Speaker 13: nearly all the old fences and all the entrances opened

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Speaker 13: up so that you can get up to four hundred

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Speaker 13: trucks per day for now ramping up to six hundred.

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Speaker 17: That's to plan.

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Speaker 13: Anyway, we'll see if that happens, but that is a

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Speaker 13: massive increase over what it has been. And also there

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Speaker 13: were only four feeding spots for the entire Gosze strip.

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Speaker 13: Almost all of the three of the four were in

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Speaker 13: the far south. Now then they're going to spread that

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Speaker 13: back out. See I guess the initial withdrawal line, the

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Speaker 13: so called yellow line perhaps you heard about that was

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Speaker 13: that will still leave Israel and control of about fifty

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Speaker 13: eight percent of the strip. So in that remaining forty

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Speaker 13: two percent, now more vehicles with food is going in

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Speaker 13: to start alleviating and ending the suffering that was going

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Speaker 13: on with the food shortages. So that's another good, good

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Speaker 13: start on there. But like I say, there's still a

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Speaker 13: lot of challenges to face even in the near term.

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Speaker 1: Now and you're better, you're obviously more knowledgeable and skilled

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Speaker 1: at understanding what's going on. But within Hamas, they apparently

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Speaker 1: are fighting amongst themselves inside Gaza. What I perceive is

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Speaker 1: something along the lines of the movie The Life of

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Speaker 1: Brian from Monty Python. You get the Judean People's Front,

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Speaker 1: you get the People's Front of Jidea, you got the

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Speaker 1: campaign for Free Galley, and they're all splitter organizations. All

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Speaker 1: of them collectively hate the Romans, and this part case,

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Speaker 1: all of them collectively hate the Israelis. But they don't

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Speaker 1: sound like they're as coordinated as I think I was

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Speaker 1: led to believe, or maybe the world was led to

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Speaker 1: believe under one hamas tight umbrella. That's why, at least

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Speaker 1: I understand. This is where you are to correct me

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Speaker 1: when I'm wrong. Why they can't identify or locate some

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Speaker 1: of these dead hostages. They don't quite know where they

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Speaker 1: are because they're being held by various splitter organizations, or

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Speaker 1: am I wrong?

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Speaker 13: Well, yeah, I'll address both of those issues. First of all,

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Speaker 13: with the issue with the hostage part of the problem.

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Speaker 13: In fact, the main problem with identifying the deceased hossages

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Speaker 13: is that many of them were buried or I guess

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Speaker 13: just laid in some of the areas where subsequent Israeli

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Speaker 13: airstrikes level the buildings and the whole thing got buried,

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Speaker 13: so they don't even know where they are or can't

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Speaker 13: reach them, and so that's gonna take a lot of time.

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Speaker 13: And you've seen all those pictures of the whole Gaza

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Speaker 13: strip basically being rubbled, so it's understandable that that's going

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Speaker 13: to be incredibly difficult as far as that goes. But

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Speaker 13: the second issue there, I think there's some analysis that

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Speaker 13: there have been significant firefights between Palestinians and Hamas of late,

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Speaker 13: because listen, many times I think on your show, I've

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Speaker 13: had issue with the Israeli government of well things they do.

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Speaker 13: They're the ones that are dropping bombs, et cetera.

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Speaker 17: But man, you can't go much.

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Speaker 13: Farther without saying that Hamas has been the absolute most

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Speaker 13: catastrophic thing to happen to the Palestinian people since this

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Speaker 13: thing began, because whatever they thought they were going to

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Speaker 13: accomplish on ten seven two twenty twenty three, the end

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Speaker 13: result has been mass destruction of the entire place and

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Speaker 13: the suffering of the Palestinian people. They're tired of that,

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Speaker 13: they're tired of the as you said, they're tired of

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Speaker 13: the Israeli side who's been putting the bombs, but they're

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Speaker 13: as tired and maybe more so on the guys that

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Speaker 13: kept this going.

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Speaker 17: So they want them to get out.

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Speaker 13: They want them to leave and give them a chance

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Speaker 13: to actually have some sort of deal going forward where

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Speaker 13: they can have a chance and a hope for a future.

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Speaker 13: And I think that if Hamas doesn't make good on

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Speaker 13: its promises to leave, et cetera, they may find more

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Speaker 13: trouble with the Palestinians than with the IDF.

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Speaker 1: Isn't that what I'll say, local conflict like within Gaza

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Speaker 1: and among the leadership of the Maas or lack thereof.

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Speaker 1: Isn't that sort of the general concept that the Middle

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Speaker 1: East is now sort of embracing, beginning with the Abraham

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Speaker 1: peace of courts. If we all just agree that we're

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Speaker 1: tired of terrorists, we're tired of fighting each other. If

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Speaker 1: we just start trading and playing nice together, regardless of

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Speaker 1: our differences, we're all going to benefit economically. It's going

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Speaker 1: to be a powerhouse area of the world. Just put

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Speaker 1: the damn guns down. So it's kind of a miniature

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Speaker 1: version of the broader challenge in the Middle East, which

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Speaker 1: seems that we are definitely making progress toward resolution these

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Speaker 1: conflicts between the various Arab countries.

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Speaker 13: Well, listen, the Gulf Corporation Council has been for more

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Speaker 13: than a year emphatically saying a lot of those things.

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Speaker 13: They say, we want to have improved relations with Israel.

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Speaker 13: Of course President Trump it's his signature thing, so he

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Speaker 13: would love the Abraham Accords to expand. Israel has recently

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Speaker 13: said that they want ned Yahu specifically, they want normalized

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Speaker 13: relations with the rest of the Middle East. So that

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Speaker 13: is on the table that all the main parties have

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Speaker 13: an interest in doing that, but that's going to require

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Speaker 13: some giving, especially on the Israeli side, because, like I said, internally,

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Speaker 13: a lot of them want to have a military victory

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Speaker 13: here and then they want to get this other stuff.

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Speaker 13: But if it doesn't it results in the Palestinian people

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Speaker 13: having some kind of future and a hope, and whether

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Speaker 13: that's a distant possibility for a state of their own

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Speaker 13: or some kind of autonomous freedom where they can thrive

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Speaker 13: as a people, at least the hope of it. Then

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Speaker 13: the rest of the GCC probably is not going to

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Speaker 13: be willing to do that. But if they can get there,

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Speaker 13: then I think we actually have a broader shot. So

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Speaker 13: there is a possibility, there's a path to potential piece,

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Speaker 13: but it's going to take a lot, a lot of

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Speaker 13: hard work, but it is there.

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Speaker 17: So that is good news.

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Speaker 1: Step in the right direction and connection with the Middle East.

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Speaker 1: I'll take any step in the right direction. Daniel Davis,

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Speaker 1: really quickly. You mentioned Hamas. Obviously they've been the disrupting factor.

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Speaker 1: They ruled that area, they were the governing force. Who

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Speaker 1: steps in If we assume Hamas is out, what coalition

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Speaker 1: or what group of acceptable people is going to step

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Speaker 1: in to provide the leadership for this region.

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Speaker 13: Well, that's what's going to have to That's part of

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Speaker 13: the fly in the ointment the difficulties because Israelis said

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Speaker 13: they have to approve whoever goes in, but the Palestinians say, we.

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Speaker 17: Want to choose who is.

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Speaker 13: Going to lead us, not have it given by the

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Speaker 13: you know, our enemy that over the last two years,

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Speaker 13: et cetera. There is a guy named more Marwan Bukhari

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Speaker 13: who is long respected among all the different Palestinian factions

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Speaker 13: and they want him, but for some reason, Israel has

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Speaker 13: not released him yet, even though they asked him.

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Speaker 17: In this prisoner exchange that just happened. We'll see how

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Speaker 17: that works out.

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Speaker 13: But the Palestinians minus Hamas, they want to decide that

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Speaker 13: on their own, and that's that's one of the next

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Speaker 13: near term challenges.

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Speaker 1: Certainly I can understand their one two the right to

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Speaker 1: self determination, pivoting over as we must Russia Ukraine. I

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Speaker 1: read this horrific statistic, and you and I have talked

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Speaker 1: about the fog over war. How many people are actually

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Speaker 1: dying and being killed in the Russian Ukraine conflict Politico

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Speaker 1: article Russia bleeds troops form microscopic frontline gains initial sentence

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Speaker 1: Russia lost two hundred and eighty one five hundred and

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Speaker 1: fifty soldiers in Ukraine in the first eight months of

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Speaker 1: this year.

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Speaker 13: I'll just tell you to I don't believe that for

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Speaker 13: a second.

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Speaker 1: And well, I was going to say, even if it's

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Speaker 1: half of that, we lost what fifty four thousand Americans

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Speaker 1: fighting the Vietnam War for more than a decade, fifteen

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Speaker 1: plus years. I mean, if this number is even half

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Speaker 1: of that, the amount of life loss is just amazing.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 17: I don't think it is even half that.

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Speaker 13: And you've seen the Institute for the Study of War,

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Speaker 13: which is big time pro Ukraine, revealed over the last

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Speaker 13: couple of months, especially that Russia has significantly changed its

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Speaker 13: tactics to where they have focused on firepower to destroy

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Speaker 13: the Ukraine armed forces and minimized the exposure to their

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Speaker 13: troops and they are.

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Speaker 17: Succeeding at that.

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Speaker 2: And I have.

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Speaker 13: Recently talked to two separate people in the US military hierarchy,

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Speaker 13: I'll just say, with access to classified information, and they

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Speaker 13: have not revealed the exact information, but they said that

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Speaker 13: that is wildly out of proportion, that that's what people

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Speaker 13: want people to believe in the West so that they

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Speaker 13: keep supporting to think they're succeeding.

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Speaker 17: But they said it is not true.

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Speaker 13: Russia is not suffering anywhere near those kind of casualties,

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Speaker 13: and you see that on the front because they continue

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Speaker 13: to go forward as opposed to the Ukraine side, which

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Speaker 13: is suffering those casualties. And that's why it's so hard

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Speaker 13: for them to bring all these reserves and even shore

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Speaker 13: up the line, and they're making significant losses in the

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Speaker 13: Koupiansk and in the other areas of the Donetic Front

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Speaker 13: that have really started to pick up speed here of late.

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Speaker 13: So it's not I think some people want that to

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Speaker 13: sound like it's good news for the Ukraine side, but

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Speaker 13: it's more bad news as far as I can see,

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Speaker 13: and even more reason why we need to get this

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Speaker 13: war wrapped up even more.

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Speaker 1: Well, your comments are reflective of exactly why I brought

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Speaker 1: this up, because I read the statistic this morning with

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Speaker 1: a huge measure of skepticism because where do they pull

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Speaker 1: these figures from. I don't know, but the volume of

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Speaker 1: casualties just seemed unimaginable. Any chance that peace might break out,

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Speaker 1: given that we've got some steps in the right direction

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Speaker 1: between Israel and Hamas, that it might catch on between

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Speaker 1: Russia and in Ukraine.

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Speaker 13: Well, Trump wants that and he would love to have it.

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Speaker 13: The Russians, obviously they would like to have it too,

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Speaker 13: on their terms. The problem is, and I just gotta

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Speaker 13: be honest, the problem is that the Ukraine side and

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Speaker 13: the European side don't. They only want peace on their terms,

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Speaker 13: and their pressure hard to get that. That's why Zelenski

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Speaker 13: will be in town on Friday to talk to President

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Speaker 13: Trump to try and really get him to release Tomahawk missiles,

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Speaker 13: which Trump said.

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Speaker 17: He would consider doing.

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Speaker 13: I hope he doesn't, and I don't think that he

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Speaker 13: really is, because that would only exacerbate and raise higher

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Speaker 13: the possibility of a clash with Russia, which they said,

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Speaker 13: this is different because the Tomahawk missile can contain a

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Speaker 13: nuclear warhead where the others can't, so it's a bigger

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Speaker 13: red line. I don't want to find out if they

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Speaker 13: mean that or not, so I'm all for getting this

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Speaker 13: deal wrapped up quickly.

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Speaker 1: Amen to that, Daniel Davis. And Plus you also pointed

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Speaker 1: out in our previous conversations, if we give him tomahawks,

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Speaker 1: it's going to require American military personnel to operate them,

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Speaker 1: which means we're in a fighting war with Russia, and

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Speaker 1: nobody wants that. Daniel Davis, deep dive. Always a distinct

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Speaker 1: Shore every Tuesday. God bless you, sir. I'll look forward

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Speaker 1: to next Tuesday, another discussion. See you next week. Take

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Speaker 1: care of my friend. It's eight forty one right now,

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