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Speaker 1: Welcome back since three sixty ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station.

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Speaker 1: Winding down our number two. Bob Mangino join us in

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Speaker 1: our number three. We've got to make some picks, but first, Austin,

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Speaker 1: we can't bury the lead anymore.

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Speaker 2: I'm so excited for this.

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Speaker 1: For the first time ever on SINCY three sixty, we're

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Speaker 1: gonna have an actual weather segment, not me complaining about weather,

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Speaker 1: not me forecasting our own weather or just throwing like

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Speaker 1: El Nino or Alberta clippers or anything like that out

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Speaker 1: there when I don't know what it means. We can

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Speaker 1: actually talk to someone who knows about weather. From WCPO nine,

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Speaker 1: Jennifer Ketchmark is kind enough to join us right now

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Speaker 1: in between about thirty other calls. I see that she's

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Speaker 1: been having to do over the last forty eight hours. Jennifer,

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Speaker 1: how are you.

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Speaker 3: I'm doing good.

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Speaker 4: Nice to talk to you, guys. Honored to be on

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Speaker 4: your show for the first time.

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Speaker 1: We thought about yesterday, but as I've been tracking the

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Speaker 1: storm as well, I understand that you can't really forecast

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Speaker 1: this stuff until we get a little bit closer. Now

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Speaker 1: we are close, and we're starting to get a little

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Speaker 1: bit more understanding as to what to expect this weekend,

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Speaker 1: and I think everyone is thinking of already Saturday and Sunday.

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Speaker 1: It's actually going to get underway tonight with just how

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Speaker 1: cold it's going to get in the Tri State.

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Speaker 3: Right, Oh dude, it is going to be stupid cold tonight.

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Speaker 4: We're going down to four degrees, which.

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Speaker 3: Okay, we've done that before this winter. We've done it

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Speaker 3: before in our lives. It's the windshow. Tonight is going to.

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Speaker 4: Be down to negative twelve to negative.

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Speaker 3: Fifteen, because you know, nothing says good.

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Speaker 4: Morning like negative fifteen.

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Speaker 5: How much of an impact does that have on like

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Speaker 5: what's coming in? How related are those two things.

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Speaker 3: So there's an Arctic air mass to the north fighting

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Speaker 3: against a low pressure system going through the.

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Speaker 4: Gulf States, the Southern System.

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Speaker 3: This thing actually originated out of Baja California. Well, this

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Speaker 3: thing has up, it's made a journey, and really later

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Speaker 3: on today it's going to start just unleashing. It'll start

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Speaker 3: out in like Arkansas with snow there Oklahoma out into Kansas,

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Speaker 3: We're really going to get into the thick of it.

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Speaker 3: It'll start early tomorrow afternoon, like midday. We'll start to

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Speaker 3: see some snowfall coming down. We'll get some of our

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Speaker 3: first light.

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Speaker 6: Accumulations actually sticking to the roads and everything.

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Speaker 3: Out there, probably by four to five PM, like to

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Speaker 3: get a quick inch of snow even by that by

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Speaker 3: that time frame, and then after that it's just game

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Speaker 3: on for the rest of the night. I don't know

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Speaker 3: how else to sugarcoat this. For the rest of the night,

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Speaker 3: the road conditions will just continue to get worse and worse.

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Speaker 3: And like, yes, the crews are putting down salt and brine,

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Speaker 3: but when you have a low of eleven, salt and

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Speaker 3: brine only works so well. Also, road crews can only

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Speaker 3: go so fast and they can only cover so much mileage.

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Speaker 3: So the reality is that like rural roads, they're going

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Speaker 3: to get pretty difficult by even late Saturday night, by midnight,

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Speaker 3: But by Sunday morning, especially rural and neighborhood streets that

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Speaker 6: They may become what we call impassable, basically not advisable

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Speaker 4: To get out and drive on them.

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Speaker 1: What is what I like, I see back and forth

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Speaker 1: on some forecast where maybe more snow or sleep could

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Speaker 1: it's going to be called enough. Why wouldn't it just

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Speaker 1: be all snow? What factors are causing questions snow or

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Speaker 1: some of that sleet to mix in.

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Speaker 3: So when it comes to the days, first of all,

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Speaker 3: Saturday is just snow. There is no sleep concern, and

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Speaker 4: A really big snow base before the potential for sleep

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Speaker 3: So we're still going to get four to eight inches

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Speaker 6: Falling on top of that stack of snowfall.

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Speaker 3: But the reason why we have.

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Speaker 4: A sleep chance is on Sunday, that Southern system. So

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Speaker 3: Cold air is dense and it hugs the surface.

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Speaker 4: So that's like and we're staying.

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Speaker 3: You know, in the teens the twenties on Sunday. But

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Speaker 6: From this system, this Southern system.

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Speaker 3: It's that warm air is trying.

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Speaker 4: To come here. But remember warm air does, what does

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Speaker 4: a rise or sink?

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Speaker 2: Guys, it's gonna rise.

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Speaker 4: Warm air rises, so.

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Speaker 3: Warm air rides over the cold air at the surface.

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Speaker 3: So as the precipitation falls from the cloud, it starts.

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Speaker 4: As a snowflake.

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Speaker 3: It then gets into that warm lair and it melts,

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Speaker 4: Then refreezes over as that ice pellet. So that's why

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Speaker 4: we see sleep.

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Speaker 3: But that doesn't come.

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Speaker 6: Into the equation until Sunday, and it'd be mainly our

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Speaker 4: So we're talking Owenton, maybe out to Maysville. We'll see

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Speaker 6: North as Cincinnati. Like, that's the big question mark right

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Speaker 6: now is how far north does this sleep get?

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Speaker 3: But our northern.

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Speaker 4: Spots, it probably isn't going to get to you. So

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Speaker 4: on Sunday, guess what, it's just gonna.

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Speaker 6: Keep snowing and snowing and snowing and snowing, and your

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Speaker 3: Mean minimum north of the Ohio River eight inches.

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Speaker 2: Wow.

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Speaker 3: This morning I showed a graphic that showed up to twelve,

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Speaker 3: which is feasible if the sleep doesn't make to you

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Speaker 3: make it to you to the north.

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Speaker 6: Eight to twelve inches is pro what you're looking at it.

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Speaker 4: Well, I love your map skills really good.

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Speaker 5: He knows that heat rises and that twelve inches is afoot.

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Speaker 5: When is it going to stop, Jennifer, Is it ever?

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Speaker 3: Okay?

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Speaker 4: So? Yes it will. So later Sunday evening the.

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Speaker 3: Snow intensity will start dropping down, the accumulations will kind

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Speaker 3: of wrap up. We actually could still see a little

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Speaker 3: But when it comes to accumulation, you won't be able

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Speaker 3: to tell a difference. It'll be very minimal, regardless of

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Speaker 6: So Monday morning you wake up and you're like, I'm gonna.

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Speaker 4: Go drive the iHeart and head into work in the morning.

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Speaker 4: Good luck with them, and it's still going to be

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Speaker 6: So in your interstates are the roads that are going

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Speaker 6: to be primarily focused on by cruise like that's those are.

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Speaker 3: Our main arteries. They try to keep them open so

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Speaker 4: Of like where you have a lane open on the interstate.

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Speaker 6: But as Monday progresses, you'll start getting.

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Speaker 3: More lanes open. Things will get better. You'll start seeing

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Speaker 3: plows coming by your neighborhood streets, so snow.

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Speaker 4: Removal crews will come through.

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Speaker 3: But it's going to be a crawl. This is not

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Speaker 3: going to be a sprint on Monday. Everybody needs to

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Speaker 4: You're probably going to be staying home.

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Speaker 3: Kids are going to be off school if it takes

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Speaker 6: Had a system similar to this last year, and I

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Speaker 3: My kids were out of school because there was a

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Speaker 3: cold blast that came in behind it. It was stupid cold,

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Speaker 3: which we are dealing with the same thing. Behind the system.

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Speaker 3: My kids were off.

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Speaker 4: For a full week.

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Speaker 2: And that's the thing.

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Speaker 6: Like the snow was still bad in the rural area.

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Speaker 6: The windshiews were horrendous. Like I would not be surprised.

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Speaker 4: If kids were out Monday and Tuesday easily.

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Speaker 1: Because it's like you said, it's not going anywhere because

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Speaker 2: Are going to stay low.

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Speaker 4: Yeah exactly.

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Speaker 3: Oh. I actually just got a really great, great question

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Speaker 3: on my Facebook page. Somebody was like, Okay, so it's

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Speaker 4: And my answer is, shovel it as it comes down, because.

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Speaker 3: It's fluffy and light and it's going to be a

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and I'm enjoying interesting and on your knees.

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Speaker 6: If you wait until the sleet comes.

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Speaker 6: Becomes heavy and strenuous.

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Speaker 3: Obviously, you don't want sleet accumulating on your driveway. So

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Speaker 3: like late Saturday night, if you do one last clearing,

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Speaker 3: throw some salt down before you go to bed. That

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Speaker 3: salt help as a sleep comes down. But I would

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Speaker 2: Backbreaker for the sport teams.

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Speaker 1: You see universities and Cincinnati Xaviers moved up their basketball

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Speaker 1: game tomorrow. Louisville has done it, Kentucky's done it. Are

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Speaker 1: they part? Are they talking with folks like you or like,

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Speaker 1: how does that come about because obviously you've got to

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Speaker 1: gather as much information as possible. You've got teams traveling,

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Speaker 1: and you also think about the team wants the game

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Speaker 1: end that has to travel and get out of here

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Speaker 6: I mean, they have risk management people and they.

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Speaker 3: Have to look at the risk of even just getting

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Speaker 4: The liability and when those people leave their.

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Speaker 3: Facilities and like, yes, they're definitely keeping that And I

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Speaker 3: think I would hope that some of these teams are

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Speaker 3: just very realistic and they're listening to local meteorologists and

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Speaker 3: being like, Hey, we have this big event that's going

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Speaker 3: to draw in thirty thousand people.

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Speaker 4: What do you think?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, what about the teams like you see plays at

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Speaker 1: Arizona State tomorrow night. Obviously they're travel back home would

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Speaker 6: Yeah, and that'll just come down to whether or not

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Speaker 4: You know, they fly, right, I would imagine they fly

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Speaker 2: So it's not big, big trouble. As a university I

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Speaker 6: Anything about university travel.

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Speaker 4: I just I went to.

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Speaker 3: A very small state school. We drove everywhere, so like

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Speaker 3: airplanes don't happen.

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Speaker 1: What about like we we equate a lot to coaches

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Speaker 1: at the college or they got sleep in their offices

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Speaker 1: this weekend? Are you just like are you huddling down

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Speaker 2: Are you just?

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Speaker 1: You bring everything you need you and you run it,

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Speaker 1: you ride it out.

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Speaker 4: I bring everything I need and ride it out.

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Speaker 3: There's no reason to drive home for a drive that

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Speaker 6: Put myself in danger. I do have a four x

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Speaker 6: four vehicle, like I got.

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Speaker 3: A Bronco and that thing can get through about anything.

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Speaker 3: I love that car, But it's the other drivers.

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Speaker 4: And then it's just the roads shut down.

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Speaker 3: Like you can't go on a road that's shut down.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, we just hung down. I'm planning on being

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Speaker 1: Well, we can't thank you enough for being our first

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Speaker 1: ever live weather report on Sincy three to sixty. This

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Speaker 1: has been awesome and good luck this weekend. Any other

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Speaker 1: advice that folks should know before we get to break.

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Speaker 3: You don't need to clear the grocery store shows.

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Speaker 4: You do not need five.

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Speaker 3: Loads of bread, y'all, there's no panic buying.

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Speaker 4: You also do not need a seventy two pack.

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Speaker 6: Of toilet paper unless it's just that time and you

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Speaker 4: Be respectful of others that actually need to buy things.

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Speaker 6: This is not going to shut us in for a month.

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Speaker 6: This is this.

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Speaker 3: Is not the the nineteen hundreds, early nineteen hundreds. Like

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Speaker 3: we will be able to get our supplies.

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Speaker 1: A voice of reason. Thank you, Jennifer in panic, Jennifer,

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Speaker 1: thank you so much.

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Speaker 4: All Right, see you guys.

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Speaker 1: That is Jennifer catch Mark from WCPO nine. How about that.

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Speaker 1: You asked some good questions. You were prepared for that. Yep, So, yep,

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Speaker 2: Yep. Have we heard from Landing.

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Speaker 5: We're tracking him down. It sounds it sounds like scared

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Speaker 5: to death, you know. So here's what's funny. You mentioned

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Speaker 5: he's probably napping. Well, you mentioned that Landon was, you know,

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Speaker 5: he's sitting at a desk. Well, come to find out

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Speaker 5: I have received correspondence. It said he's in a meeting.

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Speaker 5: Oh maybe he'll call afterwards doubtful. I mean, what kind

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Speaker 5: of snowplow removal long haired dudes in a meeting.

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Speaker 2: It's ridiculous.

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Speaker 1: Maybe we can hear from someone else that runs a

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Speaker 1: snowplow then, and our number three, which is next. We

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Speaker 1: ought some picks to make as well for some college

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Speaker 1: hoops and NFL games this weekend. Bob Mangin will join

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Speaker 1: us all coming up an hour three on ESPN fifteen

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Speaker 1: thirty Cincinnati Sports.

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Speaker 3: Station WCKY Cincinnati and iHeartRadio station Garanteed Human ESPN fifteen thirty.

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Speaker 2: I heard radio from the Johnson Heating Temps Star Weather Center.

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Speaker 2: Here's your forecast.

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Speaker 7: Cold out there the rest of our evening, as I

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Speaker 7: feel like temperatures will be in the negatives for pretty

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Speaker 7: much everyone overnight into your Saturday morning. Starting around noon tomorrow,

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Speaker 7: snow starts to fall and it won't stop falling for

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Speaker 7: a while. Totals for Saturday into Sunday lingering into Monday

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Speaker 7: morning eight to twelve inches. That's your nine first morning forecast,

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Speaker 7: time Meteorologist Cameron Harden.

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Speaker 2: This report is sponsored by Audible.

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Speaker 4: It's time to