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Speaker 3: Did the USA guy win the what was that event

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Speaker 3: that you were a snowboard cross? Did he win it?

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Speaker 3: He did not? He did not find tough break. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: it's tough competition, man, it is. But it's fun to watch.

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Speaker 3: I love it Olympics. What's the difference between the big

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Speaker 3: final and the little final? I think this is I

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Speaker 3: don't know if the last one was the little final? Yeah,

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Speaker 3: it was little mean consolation.

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Speaker 4: Does that mean the contestants are smaller or does it

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Speaker 4: mean something else?

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Speaker 3: We don't know. I think I'm not more great double elimination.

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Speaker 3: Oh okay, I'm not sure, all right, but I think

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Speaker 3: this is it. I don't think there's an American in

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Speaker 3: this race. But I think this is for gold, silver, bronze,

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Speaker 3: the whole. This is big, for all the marbles, as

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Speaker 3: we say, all right, Olympic hockey both big. At least

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Speaker 3: teams in North America played Canada dominated Chechia. It was

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Speaker 3: a zero zero first period until like five seconds left

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Speaker 3: when Celabrini scored. So it was a fairly even game

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Speaker 3: as well, just the same as the American one. But

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Speaker 3: then the second period happened and you go, oh, okay,

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Speaker 3: we've got our feet under us and now we're going

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Speaker 3: and Canada stepped on the gas. Very similar games to

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Speaker 3: two of them. I would say the US got a

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Speaker 3: little bit more unlucky with some of the breaks as

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Speaker 3: far as goals getting called back. And I just saw

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Speaker 3: a tweet in the break that, oh, this is exactly.

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Speaker 3: There's no tolerance for international rules. If there's any kind

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Speaker 3: If you lay a finger on the goalie, it's gonna call.

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Speaker 3: That's fine, deal with it. Then you go to the

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Speaker 3: rules you do. I think it's about Yes, I'm not

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Speaker 3: gonna I'm not talking about it anymore, but yes, the US,

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Speaker 3: if you're just tuning in, five to one winners over Latvia.

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Speaker 3: Brock Nelson scored two goals from the bottom six, but

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Speaker 3: you got Kip Chucks chipping in, You've got awesome Matthews

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Speaker 3: chipping in. Overall, very successful first game for USA.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly, and whatever nervousness there was after that first period,

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Speaker 4: it went away pretty quickly with a dominant performance in

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Speaker 4: period number two.

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Speaker 3: We were in, of.

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Speaker 4: Course the prelimbs, but nevertheless it's the first chance we've

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Speaker 4: had to take a look at how this team plays together,

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Speaker 4: how it works together, and they had no difficulty dominating

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Speaker 4: after the opening Stanza.

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Speaker 3: Your timbrels are in the break. They don't play again

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Speaker 3: until the twentieth Friday, the twentieth, But yesterday one thirty three,

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Speaker 3: one oh nine winners over Portland at home. Story was

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Speaker 3: Julius forty one points. Yeah, everyone taking pictures of them

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Speaker 3: and just the social media afterwards. He went off. He

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Speaker 3: had a great game to go into the All.

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Speaker 4: Star break well Randall, and there was some discussion about

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Speaker 4: whether some of his inconcitcs before a really good finish

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Speaker 4: are related to having his feelings hurt because he didn't

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Speaker 4: that that might have been bugging him just a little bit,

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Speaker 4: even though he said he didn't have really any control

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Speaker 4: over it. Who knows with this team and its foul moods.

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Speaker 4: To use the term, that's not my term, that's the

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Speaker 4: head coaches term. It's very difficult, I think, to pin

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Speaker 4: any sort of inconsistency on any one item. It just

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Speaker 4: The question is whether that might bite them more than

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Speaker 4: it has, more than it did a year ago, because

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Speaker 4: let's remember something. I mean, they ended up in the

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Speaker 4: conference finals from I think we were a sixth seed

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Speaker 4: last year, and that's my concern is that. And right

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Speaker 4: now I think they're in the sixth spot if I'm

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Speaker 4: not mistaken as well, and they're not that far from

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Speaker 4: moving up, but they're also not that far from moving down.

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Speaker 4: And I hope it's not a case of we know

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Speaker 3: He's very fun to watch because as they said, there's

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Speaker 3: the fast break, that's fast and this is a team

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Speaker 3: that has wanted to play faster this year, and when

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Speaker 4: I think they became a little bigger simply because the

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Speaker 4: probably more attention than there should be has been devoted

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Speaker 4: to what they would do, whether they could finish on

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Speaker 4: a higher note heading into the All Star Game. It

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Speaker 4: doesn't clinch anything, but I do think they very much

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Speaker 4: needed to sort of reassert themselves, which they did both

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Speaker 3: The Twins they're making well, they are making moves. Whether

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Speaker 3: or not their moves worthwhile is another thing. But they've

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Speaker 3: signed right hander Liam Hendrix and Julian Merriweather to minor

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Speaker 3: Anthony I'm going with Banda in a trade with the

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Speaker 3: Dodgers today, So three veteran options, as this article says,

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Speaker 3: to deepen a rebuilt bullpen from ball guys that I trust.

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Speaker 3: This is another trade, third level long Well, it's a

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Speaker 3: long line of Twins trades where you go five years

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Speaker 3: ago that would have been awesome, but now like the

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Speaker 3: one that sticks out to me is Chris Archer. When

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Speaker 3: and now he's not very good and he got shipped out.

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Speaker 3: That's very true. It's hard to get excited about.

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Speaker 4: The assumption is look, sometimes the little moves work out.

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Speaker 3: Baseball's weird that way. You can't rule that out.

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Speaker 4: But it's hard to attach any significance to almost any

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Speaker 4: of them because they all feel like desperation moves, like, ah,

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Speaker 4: Who do we just talk about the picture? They got

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Speaker 4: Liam Hendrick the same thing. I mean, he's he's basically

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Speaker 4: he's got great pedigree, but he's basically he's hardly pitched

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Speaker 3: It's a minor league contract, and I would for for

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Speaker 4: I think the depressing part, if they're still paying attention,

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Speaker 4: You feel like that's really our DNA, and there's nothing

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Speaker 4: not so subtle reminder of how how much we lack ambition.

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Speaker 4: Can one or two of these moves end up being

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Speaker 4: better than expected, because in baseball it does happen, and

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Speaker 4: you know, blind acorn, squirrel, that kind of thing.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but as a signature, it it's just every time,

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Speaker 3: it's just a very dutiful reminder of what we are

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Speaker 3: and what we're not. Spoiler alerts for the women's halfpipe

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Speaker 3: snowboard in five spoilers for the women's halfpipe. I don't

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Speaker 3: it anyways. Are you familiar with Chloe Kim? The name

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Speaker 3: Chloe Kim, It does sound familiar. Actually. She was going

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Speaker 3: for the first Olympic snowboarder to win three consecutive gold

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Speaker 3: medals this year and she was dethroned. Wow, she got silver.

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Speaker 3: Someone a seventeen year old Choi here's their last name

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Speaker 3: her final run. Kim had one more shot get back

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Speaker 3: guess my question there is isn't a question. But snowboard

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Speaker 3: like border cross too, that's fun snowboard across. But a

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Speaker 3: snowboard half pipe to me is must watch, must DVR television.

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Speaker 3: I think that's the get rid of the skiing. You know,

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Speaker 3: me is appointment viewing. I'm a lot more of a

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Speaker 4: When I say I love the skiing, I don't spend

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Speaker 3: But I do very much like it. That's that's it.

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Speaker 3: I think that's an age distinction. I think that's some

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Speaker 4: can find the quote it was, Uh, this is from

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Speaker 3: What do you make of this one? This is from

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Speaker 3: the the USA luses summer no, yes, summer. Bricher is

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Speaker 3: her quote or read about it? To be standing here

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Speaker 3: heartbroken is a privilege. I love that quote. I love it.

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Speaker 3: Somebody will say, well, that sounds like too you know,

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Speaker 4: Acknowledging she is heartbroken. I mean, she feels disappointed that

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Speaker 3: I love that quote. That should be one of the

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Speaker 3: But I was, like I said, she's acknowledging, she's she's mad,

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Speaker 4: Trying to remind that, you know, people that hey, you know,

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Speaker 3: I could make a similar to the fallness category if

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Speaker 3: I really wanted to, I could make a Sanders category,

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Speaker 3: whether it be Dion or whether it be she to her. Yes,

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Speaker 3: and here's a new article former Colorado tight end Christian Foura.

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Speaker 3: That is what I'm going with. Well, he went on

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Speaker 3: a podcast and just ripped the hell out of Dion.

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Speaker 3: He said, quote, I'm just not a fan of the coach.

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Speaker 3: I'm not I'll never be a fan of the coach.

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Speaker 3: I love the school. And this isn't me picking on

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Speaker 3: Dion Sanders. It definitely is because I picked on Joe Gibbs.

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Speaker 3: The worst coach I ever had was Joe Gibbs. Joe

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Speaker 3: Gibbs Bullets. Joe Gibbs was a legend. So me picking

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Speaker 3: on Dion Sanders is nothing. I just don't like the

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Speaker 3: way he coaches football. I don't think he's very bright.

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Speaker 3: I don't think he can manage a game.

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Speaker 3: I think there's a lot of flash but no substance.

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Speaker 3: And he's got a lot of people brainwashed. Wow, that's

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Speaker 3: that's pretty fun anywhere.

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Speaker 4: Know, you're describing for me exactly why I'm guessing Mike

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Speaker 3: By then, been a terrific The two of you back

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Speaker 1: draining part of our season as well. And I was

434
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Speaker 1: just just thinking about and contempulating the next move and

435
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Speaker 1: what I wanted to get accomplished. And we were getting

436
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Speaker 1: ready to go to the Combine. It was like that

437
00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:20,840
Speaker 1: Friday before the Combine and I'm not still mentally and

438
00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:25,040
Speaker 1: emostly wasn't quite ready to get back on the horse

439
00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:27,320
Speaker 1: again and start getting ready for another season. And I

440
00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:31,040
Speaker 1: just called uh, Sean and Brandon. I said, I think

441
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna just take a break from football this season

442
00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:40,320
Speaker 1: and and just recalibrate and and just see where it

443
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Speaker 1: takes me from there. And I mean it was not

444
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Speaker 1: an easy decision then, because as you said, you know,

445
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Speaker 1: I've been involved in it since uh college and high

446
00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:54,400
Speaker 1: school and so uh every fall, you know, getting ready

447
00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:58,080
Speaker 1: for a season. But I think looking back at it,

448
00:23:58,080 --> 00:24:00,320
Speaker 1: it was the right thing for me at that huh,

449
00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:04,240
Speaker 1: even though with hard decisions. Didn't know that I would

450
00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:06,480
Speaker 1: be in Seattle at the time to know where i'd

451
00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:08,359
Speaker 1: be if I decided to come back, and I wasn't

452
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Speaker 1: sure that I would come back and continue to coach.

453
00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:17,159
Speaker 1: But I'm so glad that John and Mike called and

454
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Speaker 1: invited me to come and help here because it's been really,

455
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Speaker 1: really good, really good.

456
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Speaker 4: Leslie Frasier, that's who you've been listening to for a

457
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Speaker 4: Vikings head coach. In fact, he came to the Vikings

458
00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:32,960
Speaker 4: in two thousand and seven as defensive coordinator, and then

459
00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:35,720
Speaker 4: he became head coach in twenty ten, first as an

460
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Speaker 4: interim and then permanently leading the team to the playoffs

461
00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:43,159
Speaker 4: in two thousand and twelve. We got a lot more

462
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Speaker 4: ground that we covered with him earlier, the now three

463
00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:50,800
Speaker 4: time Super Bowl champion, going back to some of his

464
00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:54,720
Speaker 4: Bears days. He talks about a couple regrets he has

465
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Speaker 4: with the Vikings, and even some opinions about the fact

466
00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:04,320
Speaker 4: that Sam Darnold was available to his new team, the

467
00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:07,080
Speaker 4: Seattle Seahawks. Will play back part two with one of

468
00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:10,919
Speaker 4: the real pros pros in the football business, Leslie Fraser,

469
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Speaker 4: when we continue. Ordinarily I'd ask if folks listening who

470
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Speaker 4: wanted to check in via the bratche ow Brian Kavm

471
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Speaker 4: text line six for six eighty six with Leslie Fraser.

472
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Speaker 4: Maybe he have a question for Less, the former Vikings

473
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Speaker 4: head coach. But we had to tape this interview because

474
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Speaker 4: a very busy schedule today for him before the show began.

475
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Speaker 4: In fact, I think he was interviewing or part of

476
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Speaker 4: the interviewing process for a new coordinator.

477
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Speaker 3: It's the old there's no rest for the weary. You know,

478
00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:50,160
Speaker 3: you just won a Super Bowl, but you're right back

479
00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:52,439
Speaker 3: at it immediately and people are saying, what can you

480
00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:55,000
Speaker 3: do for me? Lately? So we did catch up with

481
00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:57,119
Speaker 3: him before the show because we've been meaning, I've been

482
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Speaker 3: meaning to do this all season, quite frankly, with the

483
00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:04,520
Speaker 3: Seattle success and now that he has won another super Bowl,

484
00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:07,360
Speaker 3: his third, this was the perfect time. He got back

485
00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:11,440
Speaker 3: to us almost immediately, and I want to continue our discussion.

486
00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:13,960
Speaker 3: We cover a lot of ground in this part, including

487
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Speaker 3: some of his playing career, which gets kind of not unappreciated,

488
00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:22,000
Speaker 3: but I don't think it's underrated because he was such

489
00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:25,040
Speaker 3: a really good cornerback and that was a long long

490
00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:27,520
Speaker 3: time ago. He's been in this game for a while.

491
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Speaker 3: There's some stuff about his time here with the Vikings,

492
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Speaker 3: and also some I think honest introspection, shall we say

493
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Speaker 3: about his own situation, things he might have done differently,

494
00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:46,719
Speaker 3: and even the quarterback situation as it was when he

495
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Speaker 3: was here. And how was last season for the missile

496
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Speaker 3: of Vikings when they said no to Sam Darnold opening

497
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Speaker 3: the door for Sam or for to Seattle to see

498
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Speaker 3: yes to say I'm Donald as well. So here's part

499
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Speaker 3: two with a I call him a pros pro former

500
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Speaker 3: Vikings head coach Leslie Fraser. Did it refresh you? I

501
00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:11,440
Speaker 3: mean that year did you watch a lot of football

502
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Speaker 3: even though you weren't in it. Did you stay away

503
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Speaker 3: from it as much as possible? Did you travel well?

504
00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:18,440
Speaker 3: How did you use that year away?

505
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Speaker 1: Actually, I did some work with the media. I was

506
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Speaker 1: working with the NFL network. Yeah, so we have a

507
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Speaker 1: home in Los Angeles, in southern California, not in LA

508
00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:36,200
Speaker 1: but in Holmes County, and so it was really easy

509
00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:38,800
Speaker 1: for me to stay connected that way and just to

510
00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:41,080
Speaker 1: kind of get a feel for what my next move

511
00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:43,520
Speaker 1: would be if I if I was gonna come back

512
00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:46,919
Speaker 1: and coach again, or maybe do something media wise. So

513
00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:50,760
Speaker 1: I was fortunate that they let me be a part

514
00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:53,680
Speaker 1: of what they were doing. So that kept me involved

515
00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:56,840
Speaker 1: with the game and how things were going with the league.

516
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Speaker 1: And that was a great experience. I learned a lot,

517
00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:04,800
Speaker 1: really enjoyed it. You know, could have continued if I

518
00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:09,159
Speaker 1: had wanted to continue, But when this opportunity came, you know,

519
00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:11,080
Speaker 1: I couldn't say no to it. I'm glad I didn't.

520
00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:14,000
Speaker 4: You know, there's not any question in my mind that

521
00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:16,960
Speaker 4: you should have had at least one, maybe two more

522
00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:20,480
Speaker 4: opportunities to be a head coach. I also, since there

523
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Speaker 4: are times where you tire of the subject, because you

524
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Speaker 4: live it and maybe you know you don't even want

525
00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:29,200
Speaker 4: questions about this anymore.

526
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Speaker 3: Are you at.

527
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Speaker 4: Peace with Well, let's ask you, do you think there's

528
00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:37,480
Speaker 4: a chance you still hold on to a hope that

529
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Speaker 4: there's a chance that you would get another shot?

530
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Speaker 3: Where are you in that hole? I guess continuum?

531
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Speaker 1: So Dan, you know how the media sessions are at

532
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Speaker 1: the Super Bowl now?

533
00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:51,040
Speaker 3: Yep?

534
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Speaker 1: I mean there's a ton of media and we did

535
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Speaker 1: media Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, and tom on Thursday. But that

536
00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:03,920
Speaker 1: was the number one question that came up. Uh, it

537
00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:09,200
Speaker 1: was more about the ten openings that Offeason and not

538
00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:12,720
Speaker 1: one black coach getting an opportunity to be a head coach.

539
00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:16,040
Speaker 1: So it came up, I mean over and over and

540
00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:19,720
Speaker 1: over from different media outlets and and the question was

541
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Speaker 1: asked the you know, one guy asked me, he said,

542
00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:26,800
Speaker 1: why are you why you didn't get another chance to

543
00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:28,560
Speaker 1: be a hey coach? He said, he told me, said

544
00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:33,080
Speaker 1: you I'm listening to you answer these questions. You are

545
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Speaker 1: your head coach. Yes, And it was humbling to hear

546
00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:40,680
Speaker 1: that from a media member. But my answer to him

547
00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:46,840
Speaker 1: was my age group, that's probably not what owners and

548
00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:49,480
Speaker 1: general managers are looking for. Not that I agree with that,

549
00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:53,360
Speaker 1: but that's just not the direction that that you see

550
00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:58,479
Speaker 1: teams going. And and so I'm okay with that. I

551
00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:02,400
Speaker 1: do think I could as something if someone, uh, you know,

552
00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:06,400
Speaker 1: presented the opportunity. But I also know how it works,

553
00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:09,480
Speaker 1: and I'm in a good place. I'm in a really

554
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Speaker 1: good place.

555
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Speaker 3: Does it anger you that, with the ten openings, which

556
00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:16,960
Speaker 3: is a lot, you know, more than even more more years,

557
00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:20,040
Speaker 3: that there was not a single black coach hired as

558
00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:21,360
Speaker 3: a head coach? Does that anger you?

559
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Speaker 1: And disappoints me? Because I know there are coaches that

560
00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:33,840
Speaker 1: are capable. You have one there in Minnesota and Brian

561
00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:36,479
Speaker 1: flora Is and I think advanced Joseph, and there are

562
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Speaker 1: others that I know are capable. Why didn't happen? I

563
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Speaker 1: mean that's probably a question for those general managers and

564
00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:49,720
Speaker 1: owners at those respective teams, those ten respective teams. But

565
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Speaker 1: you know, just disappointed that that no one got a

566
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Speaker 1: got an opportunity.

567
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and then there's that age old issue, which I

568
00:30:57,560 --> 00:30:59,920
Speaker 3: think you've addressed before. You know, you got the Rooney rule.

569
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Speaker 4: But then there's the concern of well, my being interviewed

570
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Speaker 4: as a guy who has a real chance is going

571
00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:07,719
Speaker 4: to be given a real chance to get this job,

572
00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:11,160
Speaker 4: or am I just filling you know, the quota, whatever

573
00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:13,960
Speaker 4: the case may be. That's also got to be part

574
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Speaker 4: of the frustration, because I think the Ruiney.

575
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Speaker 3: Rum made some sense. I'm just not sure it's it's

576
00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:21,760
Speaker 3: succeeded in the way that it was intended.

577
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Speaker 1: I agree with Gillnett. I do sometimes I'm to act

578
00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:30,880
Speaker 1: to the run rule would just be abolished. But I

579
00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:34,760
Speaker 1: remember when people of color were not getting any interview,

580
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Speaker 1: So there's a place for the runer rule. It's just

581
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Speaker 1: you know how it's being enacted, and you don't want

582
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Speaker 1: it to be abused. And that's something I know that

583
00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:49,400
Speaker 1: the commissioner, you know, Rosa Goodell and Troug Benson and

584
00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:51,520
Speaker 1: the League office they're looking into and just trying to

585
00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:56,800
Speaker 1: figure out how they can make better use of the

586
00:31:56,880 --> 00:32:01,160
Speaker 1: run rule. But to abolish it or or no longer

587
00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:03,720
Speaker 1: have it, I don't know if that's the right thing either.

588
00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:08,520
Speaker 3: How many people like it's Super Bowl Week, the reporters,

589
00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:11,240
Speaker 3: how many of them were aware of what a terrific

590
00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:15,240
Speaker 3: cornerback you were Because I went back to look at

591
00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:20,280
Speaker 3: the stats your last three years. You had eighteen interceptions

592
00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:24,040
Speaker 3: in forty three games, which is astonishing, and obviously it

593
00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:26,200
Speaker 3: got all cut short because of the injury in the

594
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Speaker 3: Super Bowl, which we'll get to in a minute. But

595
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Speaker 3: do you think how many people out there just think

596
00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:33,880
Speaker 3: of you as a coach, former head coach, and a

597
00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:37,360
Speaker 3: lifelong assistant and don't know that you were an undrafted

598
00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:41,719
Speaker 3: player who ended up becoming a top line National Football

599
00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:42,480
Speaker 3: League cornerback.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's yeah, probably not very many, I mean

601
00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:53,160
Speaker 1: not very minute to the no more as a coach.

602
00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:57,440
Speaker 1: All those of our players, they do look up some

603
00:32:57,480 --> 00:33:02,880
Speaker 1: of those stats there the coursnick that that subject that

604
00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:06,360
Speaker 1: comes up more at the Super Bowl shuffles. Yeah, pro

605
00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:11,600
Speaker 1: but but yeah, most media members, I think they see

606
00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:13,960
Speaker 1: me as a as a coach and forget that I played.

607
00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:16,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, you got injured obviously on a return. I think

608
00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:19,320
Speaker 3: it was in the second quarter of that game. I

609
00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:21,880
Speaker 3: think we talked about it before, but I don't remember

610
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Speaker 3: whether I mean once you got hurt, I mean, were

611
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Speaker 3: you back did they take you immediately back to the

612
00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:29,400
Speaker 3: locker room? Do you know you were able to watch

613
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Speaker 3: the game come back out at any point, because obviously

614
00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:35,120
Speaker 3: that was one of the great, super dominant Super Bowl

615
00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:38,200
Speaker 3: performances and you're not able to enjoy it the same way.

616
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Speaker 3: What what do you remember about after the injury and

617
00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:42,719
Speaker 3: what you were able to pay attention to.

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Speaker 1: It's funny you bring it up because a lot of

619
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Speaker 1: ROWS members. I probably reflected on it more during this

620
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Speaker 1: period than I have in a long, long, long time.

621
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Speaker 1: And part of it is I was reminded that it

622
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Speaker 1: was forty years ago, Dan, that I played in that game,

623
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Speaker 1: and it was against New England. You know, Yeah, Chris

624
00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:07,520
Speaker 1: Berman and some other people that were interviewing me here

625
00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:11,000
Speaker 1: brought that up, and and it you know, it made

626
00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:14,440
Speaker 1: me think a little bit about that experience and what

627
00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:17,400
Speaker 1: it was like. And so for me, when I got injured,

628
00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:21,399
Speaker 1: I thought for sure i'd be to come back and play.

629
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Speaker 1: I didn't know it was going to be as severe

630
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Speaker 1: as a turn turned out to me. I thought I'd

631
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Speaker 1: be back in the game, thought maybe, you know, I

632
00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:29,160
Speaker 1: just putting my knee and got to work it out.

633
00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:32,760
Speaker 1: And then I looked down at my at my knee

634
00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:35,839
Speaker 1: when I was on the sidelines, and I saw how

635
00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:38,719
Speaker 1: swollen and it had become. So we go in at

636
00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:44,279
Speaker 1: halftime and at that point I really couldn't flex my

637
00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:47,160
Speaker 1: my leg, so I knew then I wouldn't be coming

638
00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:49,040
Speaker 1: back in the game. So we'd go back out them

639
00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:51,719
Speaker 1: in street clothes and you know, I'm just watching. But

640
00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:53,760
Speaker 1: at the same time, I always thought that I would,

641
00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:56,640
Speaker 1: even if I couldn't come back in that particular game,

642
00:34:57,440 --> 00:35:01,320
Speaker 1: that my career would continue on. But I thought I

643
00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:05,200
Speaker 1: would be that guy who at the time APL's surgeries

644
00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:07,759
Speaker 1: were carand and injuries yep, for the most part, yep.

645
00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:11,520
Speaker 1: But I just in my heart, I just thought that somehow,

646
00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:13,440
Speaker 1: some way I was going to buy the odds. But

647
00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:15,200
Speaker 1: it just didn't happen.

648
00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:17,640
Speaker 3: No, that ended it, right, That ended the career. You

649
00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:19,319
Speaker 3: never that was it? That was your last game?

650
00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:21,880
Speaker 1: Yeah? Right, that was my last game as a player.

651
00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:28,120
Speaker 1: Betty Ryan brought me to Philadelphia. Pat me on the physical,

652
00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:32,120
Speaker 1: but I never regained my range of motion, uh, to

653
00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:33,799
Speaker 1: be able to sprint and do the things you got

654
00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:36,960
Speaker 1: to do at corner. So that was it. That was it.

655
00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:41,600
Speaker 3: When you look back on what you think your strength was,

656
00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:45,240
Speaker 3: I mean, I felt like for that defense, the forty

657
00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:47,520
Speaker 3: six defense, which you know well, and obviously I knew

658
00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:50,320
Speaker 3: well because I covered it so much back in those days,

659
00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:52,040
Speaker 3: and of course that was the team that I grew

660
00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:55,960
Speaker 3: up rooting for and that my dad grew up rooting

661
00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:57,680
Speaker 3: or was you know a big part of rooting for

662
00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:00,200
Speaker 3: as well. That you there was a lot a lot

663
00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:02,960
Speaker 3: of pressure on the corners because of the blitz packaging,

664
00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:04,960
Speaker 3: the fact that there was so much pressure the whole.

665
00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:08,879
Speaker 3: It doesn't work if you don't have man corners who

666
00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:12,799
Speaker 3: can cover man and man as well as as you did. Right,

667
00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:16,400
Speaker 3: So what was was it quickness? Was it smarts? Was

668
00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:17,839
Speaker 3: it speed? What was it for you?

669
00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:24,200
Speaker 1: Then you are an authority on that defense because what

670
00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:27,160
Speaker 1: you said is so true. If you don't have the

671
00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:30,760
Speaker 1: corners that can cover, because we were a pressure team,

672
00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:34,399
Speaker 1: that defense is not nearly as effective. Anybody would tell

673
00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:40,040
Speaker 1: you that but around our great defensive coordinator. But what

674
00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:44,160
Speaker 1: helped me was in college at All Corners State Universities,

675
00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:45,920
Speaker 1: that's what we were. We were pretty much a man

676
00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:49,320
Speaker 1: and man team. And my college roommate who was drafted

677
00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:51,960
Speaker 1: by the Eagles in the first round and played nine

678
00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:54,200
Speaker 1: or ten years in an NFL name more than yah.

679
00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:58,600
Speaker 1: We were the opposite corners and that was our job.

680
00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:00,520
Speaker 1: You mean, to be able to play man and man

681
00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:03,640
Speaker 1: so when I came to Chicago, uh and they were

682
00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:07,120
Speaker 1: looking for dbs because they were struggling in the secondary

683
00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:09,680
Speaker 1: and trying to fill that spot to the point where

684
00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:13,480
Speaker 1: they were audition and basketball players and baseball players just

685
00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:16,680
Speaker 1: trying to find a guy who play corner. The fact

686
00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:20,239
Speaker 1: that I had played so much man really helped me

687
00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:24,040
Speaker 1: to fit in with Buddy's defense. And that was my strength,

688
00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:26,840
Speaker 1: being able to play press man. And I had pretty

689
00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:30,239
Speaker 1: good length, and I had good ball skills because I

690
00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:33,840
Speaker 1: had a high school coach and Bill Hutnall, and I

691
00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:35,640
Speaker 1: don't want to take up all your time then, but

692
00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:38,279
Speaker 1: he taught me how to catch. He taught me how

693
00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:41,760
Speaker 1: to catch punts before I went to college. And he said,

694
00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:44,759
Speaker 1: let's see, because I asked him, I said, coach, why

695
00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:46,439
Speaker 1: do you think I need to learn how to catch punts?

696
00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:48,759
Speaker 1: And he's taught me how to hope of extra points

697
00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:51,000
Speaker 1: and field goals as well. He said, you're going to

698
00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:54,240
Speaker 1: go to college, and one of the things you'll realize

699
00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:56,360
Speaker 1: is the more things you can do, the better it

700
00:37:56,400 --> 00:38:00,200
Speaker 1: will be for you. And he was right, you know,

701
00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:03,279
Speaker 1: he taught me how to catch punts. I go to college.

702
00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:06,719
Speaker 1: The second game of the season, a put returner who

703
00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:09,520
Speaker 1: was also a decause of back gets injured. I become

704
00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:12,640
Speaker 1: the starting part returner. I end up returning a punt

705
00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:16,480
Speaker 1: against Grammley University for a touchdown, and man, it was

706
00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:20,400
Speaker 1: like I was looking back and saying, that's because of

707
00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:24,359
Speaker 1: coach Hutnall saw something in me and said, I'm going

708
00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:27,879
Speaker 1: to teach him how to catch punts to help him

709
00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:32,160
Speaker 1: lay on in college. But the ball skills, along with

710
00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:34,879
Speaker 1: being able to play press man, to answer your question,

711
00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:37,160
Speaker 1: those are my strength as a player.

712
00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:40,640
Speaker 3: Is it hard for you as mythic as that team

713
00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:45,880
Speaker 3: has remained? I mean that team resonates not just in Chicago,

714
00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:48,680
Speaker 3: where it resonates most of all, but around the country.

715
00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:50,520
Speaker 3: Despite the fact that it's been that long.

716
00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:54,480
Speaker 4: How difficult is it for you to still comprehend the

717
00:38:54,520 --> 00:38:59,200
Speaker 4: notion that, for example, Sweetness Walter Payton and obviously a

718
00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:02,960
Speaker 4: Steve mc michael more recently are gone.

719
00:39:03,719 --> 00:39:08,640
Speaker 1: Man, it it's hard to know that they're gone, and

720
00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:13,080
Speaker 1: they were so special as people and obviously great players,

721
00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:17,000
Speaker 1: But to lose them so young and light, it's just, uh,

722
00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:20,960
Speaker 1: it's really hard. I had a chance to visit both

723
00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:25,600
Speaker 1: Steve and Walter towards the end of their respective lives,

724
00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:29,319
Speaker 1: and it's you know, just it's very very difficult to

725
00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:33,239
Speaker 1: comprehend and to and to accept. And I know our

726
00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:36,640
Speaker 1: hardest been for their families. But they made a tremendous

727
00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:40,480
Speaker 1: impact on the football field and off. Uh you know,

728
00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:46,160
Speaker 1: both big personalities in their own way, but tremendous friends,

729
00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:48,320
Speaker 1: tremendous teammates as well.

730
00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:51,400
Speaker 3: You know, I've told you this before, but it's been

731
00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:54,719
Speaker 3: a while since we've chatted. The eighty five team For me,

732
00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:56,920
Speaker 3: even though at that point, I'm a reporter, right, I'm

733
00:39:56,920 --> 00:39:58,359
Speaker 3: not supposed to be as much of a fan. I'm

734
00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:00,480
Speaker 3: working in Dallas at that point, and be because you're

735
00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:04,400
Speaker 3: I was like the national NFL reporter, so out of Dallas,

736
00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:07,600
Speaker 3: but because you were the dominant team, I'm in Chicago

737
00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:10,560
Speaker 3: all the time, which worked out perfectly for me because

738
00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:14,400
Speaker 3: my mom's dealing with cancer and she would pass away

739
00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:18,000
Speaker 3: along the way the your eighty five run that I've

740
00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:20,480
Speaker 3: said it, I've said it to Mike Ditka, I said

741
00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:24,840
Speaker 3: it to a couple other people. That run kept my

742
00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:28,520
Speaker 3: father and me going, as odd as it sounds, and

743
00:40:28,680 --> 00:40:31,040
Speaker 3: obviously didn't take away the pain of what my mom

744
00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:34,719
Speaker 3: suffered from at age fifty from cancer. But that was

745
00:40:34,920 --> 00:40:37,239
Speaker 3: sort of the thing, that's sort of the one light

746
00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:39,600
Speaker 3: that kind of gave us a little bit of a

747
00:40:39,640 --> 00:40:42,520
Speaker 3: break from time to time and escape from the daily

748
00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:45,400
Speaker 3: riggers of what she was dealing with. So I in

749
00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:48,560
Speaker 3: that sense, you'll always be in my heart. That team

750
00:40:48,600 --> 00:40:50,359
Speaker 3: and you will always be in my heart.

751
00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:54,080
Speaker 1: Wow, man, you just made my day with that. I

752
00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:57,480
Speaker 1: mean to know that our team had that kind of

753
00:40:57,480 --> 00:41:01,800
Speaker 1: an impact on your family and your dad and yourself

754
00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:05,360
Speaker 1: in particular, I mean that means a lot. That team,

755
00:41:06,040 --> 00:41:09,359
Speaker 1: as you mentioned, still resonates obviously in Chicago, but really

756
00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:12,080
Speaker 1: across the country. I get people asking me about that

757
00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:16,160
Speaker 1: team so often. Man, it's just amazing the impact that

758
00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:20,399
Speaker 1: that team had on fans and on our league as well.

759
00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:23,200
Speaker 1: And who would have bought it? You know back then

760
00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:26,560
Speaker 1: that would still resonate forty years later, but it does astonishing.

761
00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:28,799
Speaker 3: I've kept great, I've kept you way too long. I

762
00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:31,799
Speaker 3: want to finish with this because we're here, we're still

763
00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:34,279
Speaker 3: in Minnesota. A lot of people remember you, and you

764
00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:37,279
Speaker 3: remember your time here quite fondly. How do you look

765
00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:39,800
Speaker 3: back on your time here? Right you got here? I

766
00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:42,400
Speaker 3: think in two thousand and seven. Then eventually you become

767
00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:46,480
Speaker 3: an interim head coach, and then you get the permanent

768
00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:48,399
Speaker 3: head coaching job. How do you look back on your

769
00:41:48,440 --> 00:41:51,080
Speaker 3: time here now that there's been some distance between them.

770
00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:54,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was. It was really good for me, I mean,

771
00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:59,920
Speaker 1: to be able to come and grow as a coordinator

772
00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:02,719
Speaker 1: and then to eventually be a head coach. I wish

773
00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:05,000
Speaker 1: we could have wanted a few more games, but uh,

774
00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:08,880
Speaker 1: that experience has helped me uh in my role today.

775
00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:13,000
Speaker 1: So I have fun memories of our fans, how loud

776
00:42:13,120 --> 00:42:16,520
Speaker 1: that dome would get. Man, wow, it was. It was special.

777
00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:19,440
Speaker 1: Uh when we had it going so and the and

778
00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:22,480
Speaker 1: the great players. I had a chance to be around Adrian,

779
00:42:23,120 --> 00:42:26,320
Speaker 1: uh Kevin and Pat Williams, so many really really good players,

780
00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:29,520
Speaker 1: E J. Henderson, just good people. And the way the

781
00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:32,640
Speaker 1: way the fans treated me when I was there. Uh,

782
00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:35,439
Speaker 1: I'll never forget it. I still from time to time

783
00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:38,879
Speaker 1: run into some Vikings fans, and uh we have good

784
00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:41,840
Speaker 1: conversations and and and and a good time. So I

785
00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:45,800
Speaker 1: have fun members of those times. And uh I wish

786
00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:50,200
Speaker 1: the organization and with family and and everybody that cheered

787
00:42:50,280 --> 00:42:52,160
Speaker 1: for the Vikings, I wish them nothing but the best.

788
00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:54,120
Speaker 3: Well, I will admit we talked about this the week

789
00:42:54,160 --> 00:42:58,920
Speaker 3: of the Super Bowl. There is some pain here about

790
00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:01,279
Speaker 3: the fact that the quarterback who was here a year ago,

791
00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:04,960
Speaker 3: Sam Darnold, goes there and gets the team to the

792
00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:08,120
Speaker 3: super Bowl and obviously then wins the super Bowl. There

793
00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:11,160
Speaker 3: is you know, that's that some people try to take

794
00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:12,960
Speaker 3: the high road and say, no, I'm happy for Sam.

795
00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:15,480
Speaker 3: It's great, but I know it hurt a lot of

796
00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:17,479
Speaker 3: folks because of the way it ended with Sam. Here

797
00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:20,759
Speaker 3: are you? Were you surprised that that Sam was available

798
00:43:21,200 --> 00:43:22,600
Speaker 3: after the season that he had here.

799
00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:26,880
Speaker 1: I had to be honest with you, I was. I

800
00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:30,239
Speaker 1: just know how hard it is to find the quarterback.

801
00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:32,359
Speaker 1: I mean, you know what we went through there trying

802
00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:35,759
Speaker 1: to find the right quarterback doing my tenure, and so

803
00:43:35,880 --> 00:43:38,759
Speaker 1: when you have one man, you got a hold on

804
00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:41,120
Speaker 1: to them. And but we you know, worked out great

805
00:43:41,120 --> 00:43:44,000
Speaker 1: for us. Sam as a tremendous person, as you know,

806
00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:47,800
Speaker 1: and a really really good player, and so we're fortunate,

807
00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:50,640
Speaker 1: we're fortunate that we got him. I don't know all

808
00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:54,120
Speaker 1: the particulars about sure why he was let out, but

809
00:43:54,800 --> 00:43:56,040
Speaker 1: it worked out great for us.

810
00:43:56,160 --> 00:43:59,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, and you in the meantime get associated with another

811
00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:02,400
Speaker 4: outside standing defense. I'm not going to ask you to

812
00:44:02,440 --> 00:44:04,120
Speaker 4: compare him, because I don't think anything can compare to

813
00:44:04,120 --> 00:44:05,960
Speaker 4: the eighty five Bears defense you were part of as

814
00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:09,920
Speaker 4: a player, but obviously a terrific defense that you guys

815
00:44:10,320 --> 00:44:11,040
Speaker 4: helped put together.

816
00:44:11,040 --> 00:44:13,480
Speaker 3: That you helped put together in Seattle.

817
00:44:14,360 --> 00:44:17,480
Speaker 4: Again, I apologize for how long this has gone, but

818
00:44:17,520 --> 00:44:19,440
Speaker 4: there's nobody I enjoy talking about more than you.

819
00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:19,680
Speaker 1: Man.

820
00:44:19,719 --> 00:44:22,799
Speaker 3: It's great to catch up. I'm delighted that you had

821
00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:27,160
Speaker 3: such a great season, another rewarding season, a third super

822
00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:30,440
Speaker 3: Bowl ring man that not many, not many people can

823
00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:30,879
Speaker 3: say that.

824
00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:35,279
Speaker 1: No, so blessed Man, so blessed, so bless and thank

825
00:44:35,320 --> 00:44:37,520
Speaker 1: you Dan for your friendship all these many years. Man,

826
00:44:37,880 --> 00:44:38,799
Speaker 1: really appreciate you.

827
00:44:39,560 --> 00:44:43,160
Speaker 3: Leslie Fraser really good to catch up with him, for

828
00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:46,160
Speaker 3: reasons that I think should be obvious. He went pretty

829
00:44:46,160 --> 00:44:48,560
Speaker 3: deep there. Now it might have hurt towards the end

830
00:44:48,760 --> 00:44:52,200
Speaker 3: because he did say, yeah, I kind of was surprised

831
00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:56,080
Speaker 3: that Sam was available. Now again he knows their circumstances

832
00:44:56,120 --> 00:44:59,000
Speaker 3: and we don't have to rehash that whether the Vikings

833
00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:00,799
Speaker 3: are going to give him the same kind of deal

834
00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:03,879
Speaker 3: that Seattle did. But you do have to say.

835
00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:10,000
Speaker 4: That Seattle believed enough in Sam despite the way last

836
00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:14,120
Speaker 4: season finished, to say we can we'll take that and

837
00:45:14,160 --> 00:45:17,319
Speaker 4: we think we can actually improve upon it. And that's

838
00:45:17,360 --> 00:45:21,040
Speaker 4: exactly what the Seattle Seahawks did. And Leslie Fraser a

839
00:45:21,160 --> 00:45:27,200
Speaker 4: key role. I love it when the kid head coach says,

840
00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:29,200
Speaker 4: what do I want to do? I know, I'm with it.

841
00:45:29,520 --> 00:45:33,759
Speaker 4: I'm wow, I'm special. I'm going to go back to

842
00:45:33,800 --> 00:45:38,200
Speaker 4: a guy I work with years ago, the wise old

843
00:45:38,320 --> 00:45:42,919
Speaker 4: Leslie Fraser, twice my age, and I'm going to say

844
00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:44,200
Speaker 4: that's who I want with me.

845
00:45:45,560 --> 00:45:47,960
Speaker 3: And it was interesting to hear les Fraser say I

846
00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:51,800
Speaker 3: wish or he wishes he would have taken that approach

847
00:45:52,680 --> 00:45:56,360
Speaker 3: when he was here. Because the league is definitely in

848
00:45:56,440 --> 00:45:59,120
Speaker 3: terms of head coach, it's skewing young. That's the way

849
00:45:59,160 --> 00:46:03,640
Speaker 3: to go, right, good b M I ages between thirty,

850
00:46:03,640 --> 00:46:06,720
Speaker 3: you know, the ages of thirty five and forty, and

851
00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:09,560
Speaker 3: we're gonna go with it because that's the direction a

852
00:46:09,560 --> 00:46:13,319
Speaker 3: lot of teams are going in in this league. But

853
00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:17,319
Speaker 3: the smart ones, the smart young ones who know they

854
00:46:17,360 --> 00:46:21,200
Speaker 3: don't know as much as they might think they know

855
00:46:22,040 --> 00:46:25,080
Speaker 3: or want to believe they know, is get some some

856
00:46:25,080 --> 00:46:26,880
Speaker 3: folks who've been around it a little bit, get some

857
00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:33,120
Speaker 3: even keeled, grizzled veteran head coaches or former head coaches

858
00:46:33,160 --> 00:46:36,840
Speaker 3: and put them in the mix, and it'll make me smarter.

859
00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:39,560
Speaker 3: It'll make all of us smarter. And so it's been

860
00:46:39,600 --> 00:46:43,440
Speaker 3: a great marriage in Seattle. It sounds like, based on

861
00:46:43,440 --> 00:46:45,440
Speaker 3: what Leslie said, he's got a lot of they've been

862
00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:47,359
Speaker 3: given a lot of authority and a lot of chance

863
00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:50,319
Speaker 3: to not only be involved in the defense, but be

864
00:46:50,360 --> 00:46:54,720
Speaker 3: involved in the offense as well. And I do believe,

865
00:46:55,000 --> 00:46:58,080
Speaker 3: as frustrated as I think he still is, Leslie is

866
00:46:58,080 --> 00:47:01,000
Speaker 3: that he never got a second shot, which he deserves

867
00:47:01,160 --> 00:47:05,520
Speaker 3: as a head coach. That he's a enough of realist

868
00:47:05,560 --> 00:47:10,239
Speaker 3: to say, on the basis of his age, realistically, he's

869
00:47:10,239 --> 00:47:12,160
Speaker 3: probably not going to get that second shot. The only

870
00:47:13,120 --> 00:47:16,080
Speaker 3: X factor would be you just get a general manager

871
00:47:16,080 --> 00:47:21,040
Speaker 3: who's always respected him and felt like, no, he's what

872
00:47:21,120 --> 00:47:22,799
Speaker 3: we want, We're going to give him a shot. So

873
00:47:23,160 --> 00:47:25,080
Speaker 3: it sounds though, as if he's at peace with where

874
00:47:25,080 --> 00:47:27,920
Speaker 3: he is now and sounds like he's in a great

875
00:47:27,960 --> 00:47:31,799
Speaker 3: situation to continue to be if not the head coach

876
00:47:31,800 --> 00:47:35,960
Speaker 3: and assistant associate head coach and have every opportunity to

877
00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:40,239
Speaker 3: make his mark on a now Believe it or Not

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00:47:40,320 --> 00:47:45,359
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879
00:47:45,360 --> 00:47:47,319
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880
00:47:47,440 --> 00:47:49,279
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886
00:48:15,080 --> 00:48:18,399
Speaker 4: So your name came up, Brett Blake Moore one when

887
00:48:18,440 --> 00:48:22,840
Speaker 4: we had Louis on on Tuesday, somebody had texted.

888
00:48:22,680 --> 00:48:23,440
Speaker 3: Was I getting ripped?

889
00:48:23,719 --> 00:48:23,919
Speaker 1: No?

890
00:48:24,440 --> 00:48:27,040
Speaker 3: Well, you were to the extent that you might have

891
00:48:27,320 --> 00:48:33,520
Speaker 3: fomented this particular controversy. Yes, And it goes back to

892
00:48:33,600 --> 00:48:38,480
Speaker 3: beyond the Pond that Nicoletti had said or claimed that

893
00:48:38,560 --> 00:48:42,400
Speaker 3: lou nanny had deprived him of the opportunity to participate

894
00:48:42,520 --> 00:48:45,480
Speaker 3: in Was it wasn't the Olympics? Was it the Olympic?

895
00:48:45,560 --> 00:48:49,360
Speaker 3: Eight Olympics? Okay, the eighty Olympics. I asked Louis about

896
00:48:49,360 --> 00:48:53,320
Speaker 3: it without knowing any of the background, and at first

897
00:48:53,320 --> 00:48:56,080
Speaker 3: he denied it. Then he said, well, I guess anything's possible,

898
00:48:56,280 --> 00:48:59,520
Speaker 3: but can you confirm that story? And what exactly is

899
00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:03,680
Speaker 3: the alley against Luigi? So I want to first point

900
00:49:03,680 --> 00:49:06,320
Speaker 3: out before I get to telling the story that Pat

901
00:49:06,360 --> 00:49:08,920
Speaker 3: was very reluctant to point the finger. Well how did

902
00:49:08,920 --> 00:49:10,799
Speaker 3: he come up? Just because we're talking, you guys are

903
00:49:10,800 --> 00:49:13,440
Speaker 3: talking a little bit. So I had my breakaways bit

904
00:49:13,480 --> 00:49:15,080
Speaker 3: where I can just kind of go wherever I want.

905
00:49:15,200 --> 00:49:19,000
Speaker 3: So you did foment it, didn't you? No, Actually, you'd

906
00:49:19,080 --> 00:49:21,040
Speaker 3: have no way of knowing it without him bringing it up.

907
00:49:21,120 --> 00:49:21,319
Speaker 1: Right.

908
00:49:21,400 --> 00:49:24,000
Speaker 3: My question was if you were born five years earlier,

909
00:49:24,200 --> 00:49:26,879
Speaker 3: you think you would have made the miracle team. I see,

910
00:49:26,960 --> 00:49:29,600
Speaker 3: good question. So and then he was like, oh he

911
00:49:29,600 --> 00:49:32,400
Speaker 3: Herveie wanted faster skaters. You try, you know, be humble,

912
00:49:32,440 --> 00:49:34,719
Speaker 3: which I respect. But then he goes, I could have

913
00:49:34,719 --> 00:49:36,680
Speaker 3: played in the eighty eight Olympics when I was playing

914
00:49:36,719 --> 00:49:39,120
Speaker 3: with the North Stars, but it didn't They didn't let

915
00:49:39,160 --> 00:49:41,359
Speaker 3: me go. And I was like, oh, who didn't let

916
00:49:41,400 --> 00:49:45,000
Speaker 3: you go? And he goes, well, I don't want to say, well,

917
00:49:45,040 --> 00:49:47,560
Speaker 3: it was Lunani's decision. Well, I didn't want to say

918
00:49:47,640 --> 00:49:51,200
Speaker 3: that that and he was trying to genuinely not drop that,

919
00:49:51,320 --> 00:49:54,320
Speaker 3: and me and keV being the pasts, we are go, oh,

920
00:49:54,360 --> 00:49:57,160
Speaker 3: so it was Lunani's fault that you didn't let so

921
00:49:57,200 --> 00:49:59,560
Speaker 3: I think they were sending him down, is my understanding.

922
00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:02,120
Speaker 3: The story they're setting down to Hlse, He's like, why

923
00:50:02,160 --> 00:50:04,080
Speaker 3: don't they just let me go to the Olympics anyway?

924
00:50:04,400 --> 00:50:10,319
Speaker 3: And apparently they Luigi said no. So that's the background. Okay,

925
00:50:10,360 --> 00:50:12,480
Speaker 3: well that's good to know. At least there's something. Yeah,

926
00:50:12,520 --> 00:50:15,919
Speaker 3: I don't I mean, Louis. I think he started by

927
00:50:15,920 --> 00:50:18,479
Speaker 3: denying it and then he kind of went with, well,

928
00:50:18,680 --> 00:50:20,960
Speaker 3: you know, who knows anything. I don't think he remembered.

929
00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:24,360
Speaker 3: I don't think he remembered much about it, which is possible.

930
00:50:24,480 --> 00:50:27,280
Speaker 3: You know, well that was Patsa, so he probably doesn't remember.

931
00:50:27,320 --> 00:50:29,480
Speaker 3: And me and keV go, oh, yes he does. He

932
00:50:29,560 --> 00:50:33,040
Speaker 3: remembers everything. He does remember everything that's true. So maybe

933
00:50:33,040 --> 00:50:36,520
Speaker 3: he was just pretending in this case true to not remember.

934
00:50:36,600 --> 00:50:38,680
Speaker 3: I guess that is possible. I ended up looking the

935
00:50:38,719 --> 00:50:40,799
Speaker 3: stats up for pat that year for the North. He

936
00:50:40,800 --> 00:50:44,960
Speaker 3: played twelve games, so he wasn't well, that hoveted player

937
00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:48,319
Speaker 3: that you got to hold on to. I didn't understand that. Yeah,

938
00:50:48,560 --> 00:50:50,680
Speaker 3: so yeah, well was this more fun to poke fund?

939
00:50:50,719 --> 00:50:53,040
Speaker 3: Was it automatic that he was going to be selected

940
00:50:53,040 --> 00:50:55,560
Speaker 3: to the team. That's how he made it seem he

941
00:50:55,719 --> 00:50:59,480
Speaker 3: was ready to go? Is that right? Yeah, so you

942
00:50:59,560 --> 00:51:00,560
Speaker 3: say so. I don't know.

943
00:51:01,239 --> 00:51:03,799
Speaker 4: It was interesting because I didn't have enough background to

944
00:51:03,840 --> 00:51:07,560
Speaker 4: really be able to sort of challenge him on it,

945
00:51:07,680 --> 00:51:11,919
Speaker 4: you could say, but that was very interesting. I'm trying

946
00:51:11,960 --> 00:51:16,719
Speaker 4: to find the quote that, well, there's a couple of them.

947
00:51:16,719 --> 00:51:20,040
Speaker 4: We're going to run out of time though. One of

948
00:51:20,040 --> 00:51:22,440
Speaker 4: them is Jared Allen related because he apparently made some

949
00:51:22,480 --> 00:51:28,040
Speaker 4: comments about our quarterback situation the former Viking. Great, but

950
00:51:28,040 --> 00:51:31,520
Speaker 4: where did the quote go that I loved from the

951
00:51:31,640 --> 00:51:38,080
Speaker 4: US Olympian trying to be very philosophical about not, shall

952
00:51:38,120 --> 00:51:40,479
Speaker 4: we say, performing all that well, but it was still

953
00:51:40,480 --> 00:51:41,759
Speaker 4: a privilege.

954
00:51:42,400 --> 00:51:44,440
Speaker 3: I can't find a damn thing. Oh, here it is.

955
00:51:45,160 --> 00:51:49,880
Speaker 3: This is from US luge competitors Summer Bricher finished fourteenth

956
00:51:49,880 --> 00:51:53,279
Speaker 3: in the women's singles race. To be standing here heartbroken

957
00:51:54,120 --> 00:51:58,160
Speaker 3: is a privilege to standing here, to be standing here

958
00:51:58,480 --> 00:52:03,400
Speaker 3: heartbroken privilege, which I thought was a pretty profound, you know,

959
00:52:03,520 --> 00:52:07,040
Speaker 3: kind of thing to say, don't you. Well, we have

960
00:52:07,120 --> 00:52:09,960
Speaker 3: one Texter Todd, who's trying to localize that story. Here's

961
00:52:10,000 --> 00:52:14,000
Speaker 3: what he writes. The Minnesota Twins could say, to be

962
00:52:14,280 --> 00:52:18,680
Speaker 3: this low in payroll is a privilege. Well played, very

963
00:52:18,920 --> 00:52:21,120
Speaker 3: very well played. I have no arguments with that. Have

964
00:52:21,160 --> 00:52:25,120
Speaker 3: the opportunity to be MLB, it's an eliminated Probably All

965
00:52:25,120 --> 00:52:30,799
Speaker 3: Star break is a privilege, no question about that. What

966
00:52:30,840 --> 00:52:33,640
Speaker 3: do we got going? Oh, let me get to a

967
00:52:33,680 --> 00:52:38,120
Speaker 3: couple Leslie Frasier texts have come in. We just played

968
00:52:38,120 --> 00:52:43,560
Speaker 3: back our extensive conversation with him as he celebrates winning

969
00:52:43,600 --> 00:52:47,239
Speaker 3: a third Super Bowl, ring second as a coach. He

970
00:52:47,320 --> 00:52:49,600
Speaker 3: had one as a member of the nineteen eighty five

971
00:52:50,600 --> 00:52:53,200
Speaker 3: Monsters of the Midway. Not a better man than a coach.

972
00:52:53,320 --> 00:52:57,960
Speaker 3: Leslie's so happy for him. Fantastic interview with Leslie. Is

973
00:52:57,960 --> 00:52:59,640
Speaker 3: there an easier person to root for?

974
00:52:59,719 --> 00:52:59,879
Speaker 1: Right?

975
00:53:00,040 --> 00:53:03,480
Speaker 3: Clayton from Rochester? If your quarterback sitting on the bench

976
00:53:03,600 --> 00:53:06,240
Speaker 3: or a roube sitting on a bench waiting for a bus,

977
00:53:06,880 --> 00:53:09,640
Speaker 3: and Leslie tells you that you can do something, how

978
00:53:09,680 --> 00:53:12,439
Speaker 3: do you not believe him?

979
00:53:13,680 --> 00:53:16,640
Speaker 4: Thank you for interviewing Leslie, Fraser, writes Randy from Richmond,

980
00:53:16,680 --> 00:53:18,400
Speaker 4: Virginia originally Saint Cloud.

981
00:53:19,120 --> 00:53:19,960
Speaker 3: Really great interview.

982
00:53:20,040 --> 00:53:21,920
Speaker 4: One of the best interviews I've heard you do, especially

983
00:53:21,960 --> 00:53:24,520
Speaker 4: your touching story with your mom and your dad, brought

984
00:53:24,560 --> 00:53:29,239
Speaker 4: me to tears. That's all true. I've run that same

985
00:53:29,320 --> 00:53:32,239
Speaker 4: story by Iron Mike Ditkon when he had him on

986
00:53:33,320 --> 00:53:36,919
Speaker 4: that for me, beyond that being a mythic team because

987
00:53:36,920 --> 00:53:38,880
Speaker 4: of what it accomplished, there was always this sort of

988
00:53:38,960 --> 00:53:43,040
Speaker 4: special emotional space because of what we were dealing with

989
00:53:43,080 --> 00:53:43,399
Speaker 4: at the.

990
00:53:43,360 --> 00:53:45,520
Speaker 3: Time, and it was really had more to do with

991
00:53:45,560 --> 00:53:48,920
Speaker 3: my father. It was the only outlet, only time he

992
00:53:48,920 --> 00:53:51,680
Speaker 3: could kind of get away from the daily ravages of

993
00:53:51,719 --> 00:53:56,000
Speaker 3: cancer with my mother was watching the Bears dominate to

994
00:53:56,040 --> 00:53:58,360
Speaker 3: the degree that they did. And I've mentioned it before,

995
00:53:58,480 --> 00:54:02,200
Speaker 3: that's I haven't gone to very The only Super Bowl

996
00:54:02,200 --> 00:54:07,040
Speaker 3: I attended as a fan was eighty five Bears so

997
00:54:07,239 --> 00:54:10,759
Speaker 3: January of nineteen eighty six in New Orleans, because by

998
00:54:10,800 --> 00:54:16,879
Speaker 3: then my mom had passed away and we decided, all right,

999
00:54:17,000 --> 00:54:18,880
Speaker 3: we're going to go to the game. And it was

1000
00:54:18,960 --> 00:54:25,280
Speaker 3: a very good experience, although still obviously very difficult given

1001
00:54:25,400 --> 00:54:30,560
Speaker 3: the loss as well. Yeah, I did the play on

1002
00:54:30,600 --> 00:54:38,200
Speaker 3: the pond. Oh, I got another text about a PJ extension,

1003
00:54:38,239 --> 00:54:40,840
Speaker 3: so I don't have to ask guards you about this

1004
00:54:40,880 --> 00:54:44,439
Speaker 3: because my assumption is it's one of those. They keep

1005
00:54:44,440 --> 00:54:47,640
Speaker 3: extending his contract by a year. I think they did

1006
00:54:47,640 --> 00:54:49,879
Speaker 3: that again this year. I don't remember, and I don't

1007
00:54:49,880 --> 00:54:52,440
Speaker 3: know what's built into there in terms of raises, and

1008
00:54:52,480 --> 00:54:55,080
Speaker 3: maybe they've it's always been built in. I have no idea,

1009
00:54:56,719 --> 00:54:59,200
Speaker 3: but I know they keep you know, they keep doing

1010
00:54:59,280 --> 00:55:02,080
Speaker 3: the one. My recollection is we just kind of keep

1011
00:55:02,160 --> 00:55:04,200
Speaker 3: doing one year extensions with him. But I don't know

1012
00:55:04,239 --> 00:55:06,480
Speaker 3: if there's something new. Did you see anything via startdbuon

1013
00:55:06,560 --> 00:55:10,279
Speaker 3: dot com that I'm missing? It hasn't come across my

1014
00:55:10,360 --> 00:55:13,200
Speaker 3: desk now, and maybe it just gets buried. There's so

1015
00:55:13,239 --> 00:55:16,640
Speaker 3: many of them. It's it's the way the game is played.

1016
00:55:17,080 --> 00:55:20,640
Speaker 3: You know. I don't love it. Oh yeah, but oh

1017
00:55:20,680 --> 00:55:24,760
Speaker 3: you found it. So this is caroleven Piece Okay University

1018
00:55:24,800 --> 00:55:27,440
Speaker 3: Minnesota and head football coach PJ. Fleck agreed to a

1019
00:55:27,480 --> 00:55:31,319
Speaker 3: new contract which includes a monetary bump in performance incentives.

1020
00:55:31,480 --> 00:55:35,040
Speaker 3: Right Border Regents improved a new contract WELLS seven hundred

1021
00:55:35,080 --> 00:55:39,040
Speaker 3: thousand management bonus to boost his salary to seven point

1022
00:55:39,160 --> 00:55:42,640
Speaker 3: nine million. The terms so the new contract will give

1023
00:55:42,680 --> 00:55:44,640
Speaker 3: him a seven hundred and fifty thousand dollars bonus for

1024
00:55:44,680 --> 00:55:46,760
Speaker 3: winning seven or more big ten games in the season,

1025
00:55:47,200 --> 00:55:49,840
Speaker 3: three hundred thousand for six, one hundred and fifty thousand

1026
00:55:49,840 --> 00:55:52,880
Speaker 3: for five. The previous contract had paid one hundred thousand

1027
00:55:52,920 --> 00:55:54,960
Speaker 3: bonus for winning eight, so on and so forth. So

1028
00:55:54,960 --> 00:55:58,480
Speaker 3: there's some new bonuses, yeah, going on keeping them through

1029
00:55:58,480 --> 00:56:00,760
Speaker 3: the program through twenty thirty.

1030
00:56:01,080 --> 00:56:04,040
Speaker 4: Twenty thirty, say, and this is twenty twenty six. It

1031
00:56:04,120 --> 00:56:07,080
Speaker 4: is all right, Yeah, it's again. I mean, it's sort

1032
00:56:07,120 --> 00:56:09,560
Speaker 4: of the way the game is played. Are there some

1033
00:56:09,760 --> 00:56:12,040
Speaker 4: years where I'd say let's skip the extension?

1034
00:56:13,160 --> 00:56:17,040
Speaker 3: Yeah? Might this be one of those years for me? Yeah?

1035
00:56:17,120 --> 00:56:20,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, I know he won the ball again, but I

1036
00:56:20,480 --> 00:56:24,480
Speaker 4: don't want to go back through this season. And you know,

1037
00:56:24,560 --> 00:56:30,759
Speaker 4: the stark contrast between the close games beating terrible teams

1038
00:56:30,800 --> 00:56:33,160
Speaker 4: and the blowout games in which you were not even

1039
00:56:33,200 --> 00:56:38,520
Speaker 4: competitive against the good teams. There's just, to me, not

1040
00:56:38,800 --> 00:56:42,480
Speaker 4: a lot in that resume right now to say there

1041
00:56:42,640 --> 00:56:49,480
Speaker 4: is another what's the best way, best term to use here,

1042
00:56:50,480 --> 00:56:57,560
Speaker 4: another level upwards that he represents. We know he has

1043
00:56:57,920 --> 00:57:06,000
Speaker 4: definitely raised the basement right, no question about that. But

1044
00:57:08,440 --> 00:57:10,640
Speaker 4: are we really taking them seriously as a team that

1045
00:57:10,680 --> 00:57:12,040
Speaker 4: you know is gonna have one of those breakout. I

1046
00:57:12,040 --> 00:57:14,000
Speaker 4: don't even want to say at the Indiana level. I'm

1047
00:57:14,000 --> 00:57:16,120
Speaker 4: saying even a little below the Indiana level of the answers. No,

1048
00:57:16,160 --> 00:57:19,120
Speaker 4: we haven't had one of those basically since two thousand

1049
00:57:19,760 --> 00:57:21,720
Speaker 4: and in nineteen.

1050
00:57:21,880 --> 00:57:29,720
Speaker 3: For sure, Where were we here? You're Leslie in a

1051
00:57:29,720 --> 00:57:33,040
Speaker 3: Frasier interview is great, He's taken. The Darnel situation underscored

1052
00:57:33,040 --> 00:57:35,800
Speaker 3: my frustration with Vikings management. They catch lightning in a bottle,

1053
00:57:36,080 --> 00:57:37,680
Speaker 3: but it's not the kind of lightning in a bottle.

1054
00:57:38,200 --> 00:57:40,040
Speaker 3: It's not the right kind of lightning in a bottle,

1055
00:57:40,080 --> 00:57:42,040
Speaker 3: so they get rid of it, and their plan is

1056
00:57:42,040 --> 00:57:44,800
Speaker 3: to get the right kind of lightning, and bottle fails miserably.

1057
00:57:45,200 --> 00:57:49,920
Speaker 3: Case Keenum and now Sam Darneld signed paul In Blaine.

1058
00:57:50,480 --> 00:57:53,200
Speaker 3: We know why they did it again. But it's interesting

1059
00:57:53,200 --> 00:57:55,000
Speaker 3: because I think there's a couple of Vikings who's kind

1060
00:57:55,040 --> 00:57:58,600
Speaker 3: of veteran members of the Vikings. One defensive player who

1061
00:57:58,600 --> 00:58:02,920
Speaker 3: basically said, yeah, we were kind of And it's related

1062
00:58:02,920 --> 00:58:07,200
Speaker 3: to what Leslie said. It's so hard, even in a

1063
00:58:07,240 --> 00:58:09,960
Speaker 3: regular season sense, to get the kind of quarterback who

1064
00:58:10,000 --> 00:58:14,320
Speaker 3: produces to that level that you know there's a part

1065
00:58:14,320 --> 00:58:17,920
Speaker 3: of you, it says don't tempt the gods, don't tempt fate.

1066
00:58:18,000 --> 00:58:20,480
Speaker 3: Find a way, And like I said, my way was

1067
00:58:21,520 --> 00:58:23,800
Speaker 3: I didn't blame them for not wanting to sign him

1068
00:58:23,800 --> 00:58:28,120
Speaker 3: long term, but that I would have strongly considered franchising

1069
00:58:28,160 --> 00:58:31,520
Speaker 3: him even if he didn't like it, as we stay

1070
00:58:31,560 --> 00:58:34,080
Speaker 3: in this business, it's show business, not show friends.

1071
00:58:34,200 --> 00:58:34,280
Speaker 1: Ed.

1072
00:58:35,440 --> 00:58:37,880
Speaker 3: What might he have been cranky about that, I don't know,

1073
00:58:38,040 --> 00:58:39,200
Speaker 3: but to me, that was the way out of the

1074
00:58:39,200 --> 00:58:42,439
Speaker 3: box where you're not committing. And then if he if

1075
00:58:42,440 --> 00:58:45,160
Speaker 3: he follows up on the way he finished his first

1076
00:58:45,160 --> 00:58:47,200
Speaker 3: season with you, then that's it.

1077
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Speaker 1: You all.

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Speaker 3: You can walk away at pretty much at that point.

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Speaker 3: All right, let's wrap up the program quick break, and

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Speaker 3: we'll come back and remind you what else you missed

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Speaker 3: today and what we have coming up on a very

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Speaker 3: busy Friday show. It's the Bumper to Bumper Show Rap.

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Speaker 3: It's brought to you by American Pressure. We returned Doctor

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Speaker 3: Dan's Inbox to the program and reaction was I think muted.

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Speaker 4: I think there was a feeling that it felt a

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Speaker 4: little bit rusty.

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Speaker 3: It's like anything else for our letter writers. I think,

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Speaker 3: you know, we haven't done an inbox in forever, so

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00:59:32,960 --> 00:59:35,320
Speaker 3: to expect it immediately we were going to be at

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Speaker 3: top level. It's probably unfair, but it's a process, right,

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Speaker 3: So bringing it back I think leads to the next

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Speaker 3: time where people get better in the groove, and I

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Speaker 3: think we'll have even greater success. I thought there were

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Speaker 3: several very good letters today as well. But we'll try

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Speaker 3: to keep that back, put that back more on a

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Speaker 3: regular basis, moving forward as it once was kind of

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Speaker 3: a regular staple. By the way, a couple people are

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Speaker 3: saying that professional players were not eligible. He wouldn't have

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Speaker 3: been eligible for glad you brought that up. Yeah, is that?

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Speaker 1: Is that?

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Speaker 3: Do you have that clarification? So I looked at the

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Speaker 3: eighty eight I saw that text. I looked at the

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Speaker 3: nineteen eighty eight US Men's Olympic roster. There are a

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Speaker 3: handful of professional players on though. There are Brian Leach

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Speaker 3: his current teams listed, the Rangers. There's a couple of

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Speaker 3: minor lelayers as well. There's one guy from the Rangers,

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Speaker 3: Steve Leach, Okay, couldn't forget him. But then there was

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Speaker 3: a bunch of college guys. Okay, so there were some

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Speaker 3: professionals in this roster, right, I don't know how they

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Speaker 3: did it. Yeah, but truth cannot be contrab all right,

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Speaker 3: we'll keep an eye on that and maybe we'll try

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Speaker 3: to get to the bottom of it. At some point,

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Speaker 3: Louis had said he must have been talking about the

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Speaker 3: World Championshipships, not the Olympics. That's true, that's what Louis was.

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Speaker 3: But but Micletty was talking about the Olympics. Olympics.

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Speaker 4: Okay, fair enough in any case, inbox was at four

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Speaker 4: to two today, a lot of good Olympic conversation. Early

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Speaker 4: we tried to nurture the notion that all the officials

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Speaker 4: are against us at the Olympics, and is that going

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Speaker 4: to end up being one of the recurring themes because

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Speaker 4: at that point two of our goals have been waved

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Speaker 4: off in the first period USA men Hockey Immen's Olympic

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Speaker 4: Hockey versus Latvia. And also apparently our ice dancing pair

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Speaker 4: got job by the officials last night. Then there was

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Speaker 4: another competitor I don't even remember what the it was.

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Speaker 3: It speed skating. There was another event in which we

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Speaker 3: want it, but then the victory was taken away because

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Speaker 3: of a collision. So we'll keep an eye on that

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Speaker 3: theme because we know, you know, Lord knows, we love

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Speaker 3: whining about being job by the officials when it comes

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Speaker 3: to Minnesota teams, and maybe that's going to end up

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Speaker 3: being part of the story in Milan Courtina as well

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Speaker 3: in the Winter Olympiad this time around, so we'll keep

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Speaker 3: an eye on that. Tomorrow is Friday. I'm assuming Ben

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Speaker 3: Gestling will join. Prediction segment done.

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Speaker 4: I think I won the postseason by the way going

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Speaker 4: away because I picked I know, I picked Seattle to cover.

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Speaker 4: I didn't think it was gonna be close, and it

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Speaker 4: wasn't particularly close.

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Speaker 3: Is it a relief that the predictions are done? That

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Speaker 3: might be? Well, No, I was just getting hot. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: Actually it's a relief not to having to mess with

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Speaker 3: Gerby for a while. That's true. I'll miss him and

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Speaker 3: then you always do. And then Lavelle will join, assuming

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Speaker 3: regular time, and we may add another guest because we're

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Speaker 3: in the kind of the sports abyss period for sure,

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01:02:36,600 --> 01:02:38,440
Speaker 3: so that might be part of the Indeed, part of

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Speaker 3: the deal tonight is I'm assuming fan and demand in

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Speaker 3: the air night it is. We've got no games, right

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Speaker 3: because the Wolves are done. Wolves All Star Break, NBA

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Speaker 3: All Star Break has hit we'll probably get back to

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01:02:53,440 --> 01:02:55,520
Speaker 3: the We discussed this, as you recall a lot on

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Speaker 3: sermons Sunday, this new way of tanking and degrees of

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Speaker 3: tanking in the National Basketball Association, shutting players down, all

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Speaker 3: this stuff. I think there's a there's still more meat

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Speaker 3: on that bone to discuss, so we'll probably get back

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Speaker 3: to that tomorrow. I know it'll be a big topic

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Speaker 3: all Star weekend for sure, because it's juicy and it

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01:03:18,320 --> 01:03:22,880
Speaker 3: makes sense. It's sadly extremely topical as well, so that

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Speaker 3: might be part of the festivities on tomorrow's broadcast. Obviously,

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Speaker 3: the wild are done because of Olympic hockey, so this

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Speaker 3: we are kind of This is kind of an a

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Speaker 3: busy period, but a lot of good attention devoted rightly,

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Speaker 3: I think, to the Winter Olympics. So I'm sure we'll

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Speaker 3: get into more of that tomorrow as well. This is

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Speaker 3: out of nowhere.

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Speaker 4: Adam and Fargo is currently ice fishing and listening. How

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Speaker 4: does Motsco keep his job after this year? All the conversations,

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Speaker 4: He has never won a thing with Saint Cloud or

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Speaker 4: the Gophers. Yet all the other programs from North go

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Speaker 4: to the UMD at St. Thallas at are all national

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Speaker 4: rank at nationally ranked.

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Speaker 3: I should say we haven't talked much Gopher hockey for

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Speaker 3: a while with Louie. Louie is very supportive of Moscow.

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Speaker 4: I have a hard time believing that he's in any

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Speaker 4: kind of significant trouble. This year's been troubling, Is that

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Speaker 4: fair to say? I mean it's I know, we.

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Speaker 3: Lost a lot of people, and allegedly there's ups and downs.

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Speaker 3: I'd like to think we're one of those programs though,

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Speaker 3: when that where the downs should never be as down

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Speaker 3: as this year has been.

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Speaker 4: So maybe we'll explore that subject as well. At some point,

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Speaker 4: we'd like to get Russo in the conversation, but he's

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Speaker 4: very busy.

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Speaker 3: Billy Garrin in the conversation.

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Speaker 4: He's kind of busy, but we'll get him eventually, and

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Speaker 4: maybe even our old buddy Tim Conley, who was the

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Speaker 4: president of basketball operations for the Wolves.

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Speaker 3: Mike Conley still not back with the Wolves. When he is,

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Speaker 3: we're all expecting it eventually. Our hope is to get

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Speaker 3: reacquainted with him on the air as well. Thanks again

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Speaker 3: for listening, thank you for watching, and we will talk

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Speaker 3: to you tomorrow beginning at three o'clock. Right here in

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Speaker 3: the fan, I be we neever need me, I me