1 00:00:00,680 --> 00:00:01,040 Speaker 1: Good night. 2 00:00:01,080 --> 00:00:03,680 Speaker 2: Michael Brown joins me here, the former FEMA director of talk. 3 00:00:03,520 --> 00:00:06,400 Speaker 3: Show host Michael Brown. Brownie, no, Brownie, You're doing a 4 00:00:06,400 --> 00:00:08,960 Speaker 3: heck of a job the Weekend with Michael Brown. 5 00:00:10,080 --> 00:00:12,200 Speaker 2: Hey, welcome back to the Weekend with Michael Brown. Glad 6 00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:13,920 Speaker 2: to have you with me. I appreciate you tuning in 7 00:00:14,400 --> 00:00:17,960 Speaker 2: the week before Christmas. Everybody I just noticed, like him Denver, anyway, 8 00:00:18,480 --> 00:00:22,479 Speaker 2: traffic is just horrendous. Everybody is on the move, the 9 00:00:22,560 --> 00:00:25,800 Speaker 2: malls are all crowded, and of course the commercialization of 10 00:00:25,880 --> 00:00:31,440 Speaker 2: Christmas continues on as it just amazes me. But anyway, 11 00:00:31,720 --> 00:00:35,120 Speaker 2: just set that aside. You know the rules of engagement. 12 00:00:35,680 --> 00:00:39,360 Speaker 2: The message line is always open three three one zero three. 13 00:00:39,440 --> 00:00:42,520 Speaker 2: Keyword is Mike or Michael three three one zero three. 14 00:00:42,600 --> 00:00:45,120 Speaker 2: Go give me a follow one ex at Michael Brown USA. 15 00:00:45,960 --> 00:00:50,440 Speaker 2: The four days after the Bondi Beach massacre down in Australia. 16 00:00:51,520 --> 00:00:57,040 Speaker 2: That's the incident where fifteen innocent Australian Jews were literally 17 00:00:57,080 --> 00:01:00,279 Speaker 2: just gunned down in a massacre by a air of 18 00:01:00,280 --> 00:01:04,520 Speaker 2: Islamic extremists. The cops have now moved on a group 19 00:01:04,560 --> 00:01:09,800 Speaker 2: of men that are suspected of sharing the same murderous ideology, 20 00:01:10,640 --> 00:01:17,240 Speaker 2: and I kind of slowed that down because they they 21 00:01:17,240 --> 00:01:20,720 Speaker 2: weren't involved. They haven't killed anybody, at least that we 22 00:01:20,800 --> 00:01:23,640 Speaker 2: know of yet, but the cops have moved in on them. 23 00:01:24,280 --> 00:01:29,880 Speaker 2: Tactical units intercepted two vehicles in Liverpool, not England, but 24 00:01:30,080 --> 00:01:36,600 Speaker 2: in southwest Sydney and seven men were detained. You I 25 00:01:36,640 --> 00:01:39,319 Speaker 2: think many Ausies would say that that part was handled 26 00:01:39,440 --> 00:01:41,760 Speaker 2: exactly as it should have been. The cops did what 27 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:46,039 Speaker 2: they had to do. But what comes next tells you 28 00:01:46,160 --> 00:01:51,000 Speaker 2: everything about the twisted priorities of Australia's political and legal 29 00:01:51,040 --> 00:01:55,400 Speaker 2: system in the year twenty twenty five. And I think 30 00:01:55,480 --> 00:01:59,200 Speaker 2: maybe an indication indication of kind of what's happened in 31 00:01:59,240 --> 00:02:05,520 Speaker 2: Europe has now spread to Australia where it's truly exploded horrifically. 32 00:02:06,440 --> 00:02:11,560 Speaker 2: And I think except for this country is still divided 33 00:02:11,760 --> 00:02:17,560 Speaker 2: enough that the wokeness, the political ideology, and the fear 34 00:02:17,600 --> 00:02:20,520 Speaker 2: of calling out radical Islam for what it is is 35 00:02:20,560 --> 00:02:23,160 Speaker 2: still kind of we still have our fingers in the 36 00:02:23,240 --> 00:02:26,399 Speaker 2: dike and we and we're still keeping that flood at 37 00:02:26,520 --> 00:02:30,600 Speaker 2: Bay to a certain extent now not completely because clearly, 38 00:02:30,600 --> 00:02:32,639 Speaker 2: when you look at Columbia Harvard, some of the other 39 00:02:32,720 --> 00:02:35,400 Speaker 2: things that go on around the country, all the anti 40 00:02:35,440 --> 00:02:39,880 Speaker 2: Semitic tropes that are spewed, you know, incessantly everywhere. We 41 00:02:39,919 --> 00:02:43,600 Speaker 2: still have a problem in this country. And yes we 42 00:02:43,720 --> 00:02:47,919 Speaker 2: have had some you know, anti Semitic murders and mass 43 00:02:47,919 --> 00:02:51,520 Speaker 2: shootings and all of that, but so far we're still 44 00:02:51,639 --> 00:02:54,920 Speaker 2: at least I think. I know, I'm really you know, 45 00:02:55,080 --> 00:02:57,240 Speaker 2: kind of dancing around this, but I really think that 46 00:02:57,280 --> 00:03:00,480 Speaker 2: in this country we still haven't gone as far off 47 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:04,040 Speaker 2: the deep end as Europe, the United Kingdom, and Australia have. 48 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:09,880 Speaker 2: So again, less than twenty four hours after the dramatic 49 00:03:09,960 --> 00:03:14,560 Speaker 2: arrest of these seven individuals, they were released. There were 50 00:03:14,600 --> 00:03:18,280 Speaker 2: no charges, no accountabilities, and I can't even find their 51 00:03:18,360 --> 00:03:23,399 Speaker 2: names at least as of yesterday. Yet, just a few 52 00:03:23,440 --> 00:03:29,639 Speaker 2: weeks earlier, the same country that released seven radical Islamis sympathizers, 53 00:03:30,480 --> 00:03:33,320 Speaker 2: they deported a white South African man by the name 54 00:03:33,360 --> 00:03:38,600 Speaker 2: of Matthew Gruder for his alleged involvement with a fringe 55 00:03:38,760 --> 00:03:45,320 Speaker 2: ultra nationalist group, the National Socialist Network. Not because mister 56 00:03:45,400 --> 00:03:48,840 Speaker 2: Gruder was involved in a terror plot, not because he 57 00:03:48,960 --> 00:03:52,280 Speaker 2: had any weapons, whether they were legal or illegal. We'll 58 00:03:52,280 --> 00:03:55,720 Speaker 2: get to Australia gun laws in a minute. But they 59 00:03:57,000 --> 00:04:02,320 Speaker 2: deported him just for holding an ideology, just for holding 60 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:05,760 Speaker 2: a political belief, and that was enough for the Australians 61 00:04:05,800 --> 00:04:08,360 Speaker 2: to cancel his visa, drag him out to the airport 62 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:11,280 Speaker 2: and send him on his way backing. So I think 63 00:04:11,280 --> 00:04:15,120 Speaker 2: that raises a pretty obvious question, why is it that 64 00:04:15,200 --> 00:04:19,640 Speaker 2: in that country, in Australia, radical Islam gets monitored, but 65 00:04:20,120 --> 00:04:24,640 Speaker 2: white nationalism gets deported. And I'm not at all arguing 66 00:04:25,040 --> 00:04:28,040 Speaker 2: on behalf of either one. I'm just pointing out, wait 67 00:04:28,080 --> 00:04:32,320 Speaker 2: a minute, why would you treat radical Islam with kid 68 00:04:32,320 --> 00:04:35,880 Speaker 2: gloves but someone who purports to be a white nationalist 69 00:04:35,920 --> 00:04:41,680 Speaker 2: gets deported? I think you might know the answer. The 70 00:04:41,720 --> 00:04:44,960 Speaker 2: Liverpool Steam, which was launched a couple of days ago 71 00:04:45,080 --> 00:04:47,800 Speaker 2: on their December eighteen. I always say their December eighteen 72 00:04:47,880 --> 00:04:50,240 Speaker 2: that I'm talking about Australia. There's always a day ahead 73 00:04:50,240 --> 00:04:53,920 Speaker 2: of us, was really a textbook example of the cops 74 00:04:53,920 --> 00:04:56,800 Speaker 2: doing their job in a really high thread environment. Acting 75 00:04:56,839 --> 00:05:01,960 Speaker 2: on credible intelligence that a violent was possibly being planned, 76 00:05:02,760 --> 00:05:06,560 Speaker 2: The New South Wales Tactical Operations Unit intercepted two vehicles 77 00:05:06,560 --> 00:05:09,440 Speaker 2: near George Street and inside they found seven men all 78 00:05:09,480 --> 00:05:11,600 Speaker 2: between the ages of nineteen and twenty four. Oh, they 79 00:05:11,600 --> 00:05:14,560 Speaker 2: fit the profile right, and they were all from Victoria, 80 00:05:15,440 --> 00:05:18,200 Speaker 2: and they reportedly traveled together in a convoy heading in 81 00:05:18,240 --> 00:05:21,560 Speaker 2: the direction of Bondy Beach. One of them was already 82 00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:25,240 Speaker 2: on the Australian intel community's radar, and all were described 83 00:05:25,279 --> 00:05:30,839 Speaker 2: as adherents of extremist Islamic ideology. That's the same warped 84 00:05:31,120 --> 00:05:34,479 Speaker 2: thinking that fueled the massacre at Bondi Beach. Now the 85 00:05:34,480 --> 00:05:38,000 Speaker 2: cops didn't find any guns, didn't find any explosives, or 86 00:05:38,040 --> 00:05:41,599 Speaker 2: they found a knife, and sometimes that's all that's needed. 87 00:05:41,640 --> 00:05:46,440 Speaker 2: I guess just asked the family of British fusil Lee Rigby, 88 00:05:46,440 --> 00:05:49,520 Speaker 2: who was hit by a car driven by Islamic terrorists 89 00:05:49,760 --> 00:05:53,119 Speaker 2: and then stabbed to death before having his lifeless body 90 00:05:53,200 --> 00:05:57,120 Speaker 2: dragged into the street by these Middle Eastern Neanderthals like 91 00:05:57,200 --> 00:06:01,120 Speaker 2: some sort of grotesque trophy, which they tend to do. Now, 92 00:06:01,120 --> 00:06:04,560 Speaker 2: the lot stopped in that was stopped in Liverpool. They 93 00:06:04,560 --> 00:06:07,960 Speaker 2: weren't just some group of random drifters out for a drive. 94 00:06:08,400 --> 00:06:11,400 Speaker 2: Those men were known to the Victorian authorities and at 95 00:06:11,440 --> 00:06:14,520 Speaker 2: least one was under active investigation. They were headed toward Bondi, 96 00:06:14,600 --> 00:06:17,640 Speaker 2: the same beach they were doing so just days after 97 00:06:17,680 --> 00:06:20,440 Speaker 2: those innocent Jewish lives were taken by other Islamis. There 98 00:06:21,680 --> 00:06:26,320 Speaker 2: no definitive target has ever been confirmed. But does does 99 00:06:26,360 --> 00:06:30,720 Speaker 2: anybody believe that that was just a coincidence? I just 100 00:06:30,760 --> 00:06:34,920 Speaker 2: don't believe in those kinds of coincidences. The investigators suggested 101 00:06:34,960 --> 00:06:38,120 Speaker 2: that those men might have been on their way to 102 00:06:38,279 --> 00:06:41,760 Speaker 2: collect weapons and after Bondi, who in their right mind 103 00:06:41,800 --> 00:06:44,719 Speaker 2: would want to wait and find out? I kind of 104 00:06:44,720 --> 00:06:48,360 Speaker 2: get the reaction. In fact, what the cops did shows 105 00:06:48,400 --> 00:06:51,760 Speaker 2: a very clear shift. Because after the massacre at Bondi 106 00:06:51,839 --> 00:06:57,159 Speaker 2: Beach where Navid Akram, that man with known Isis sympathies, 107 00:06:57,760 --> 00:07:01,240 Speaker 2: slipped through the intelligence cracks, slipped through the law enforcement cracks, 108 00:07:01,480 --> 00:07:04,480 Speaker 2: murder fifteen people, including a ten year old child. But 109 00:07:04,680 --> 00:07:06,200 Speaker 2: you know, at that point, you really don't have any 110 00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:12,200 Speaker 2: more excuses. The softly soft approach had failed, and the 111 00:07:12,240 --> 00:07:14,320 Speaker 2: cops knew they couldn't have wait to afford you know, 112 00:07:14,320 --> 00:07:17,040 Speaker 2: they couldn't afford to wait for another body count. So 113 00:07:17,120 --> 00:07:18,840 Speaker 2: this time they went in early, and they hit hard, 114 00:07:19,040 --> 00:07:20,520 Speaker 2: and they made the call that the rest of the 115 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:25,520 Speaker 2: system seems too godless to make. Organized Islamic extremism is 116 00:07:25,640 --> 00:07:30,760 Speaker 2: a warning sign. It should not be an afterthought. But 117 00:07:30,840 --> 00:07:36,000 Speaker 2: they let them go, or would we be seeing names, photos, 118 00:07:36,040 --> 00:07:40,280 Speaker 2: court hearings and deportations. Now that's not just a rhetorical jab. 119 00:07:40,320 --> 00:07:43,160 Speaker 2: It's the reality. I think of Australia in the year 120 00:07:43,200 --> 00:07:46,400 Speaker 2: twenty twenty five. It's a country where radical Islam is 121 00:07:46,440 --> 00:07:51,760 Speaker 2: treated with kid gloves, and while ultranationalists voices get labeled 122 00:07:51,800 --> 00:07:56,400 Speaker 2: as hate groups, racists, extremists, and they're worthy of exile. 123 00:07:57,840 --> 00:08:00,800 Speaker 2: What's good for the goose is not good for the gander. Now, 124 00:08:00,840 --> 00:08:03,360 Speaker 2: remember the guy that he exported did not commit he 125 00:08:03,400 --> 00:08:07,920 Speaker 2: did not commit any crimes, but because he was affiliated 126 00:08:08,040 --> 00:08:11,880 Speaker 2: with a nationalist group, they ripped up his visa and 127 00:08:11,920 --> 00:08:15,040 Speaker 2: he was sent packing to South Africa. That was enough. 128 00:08:15,040 --> 00:08:16,720 Speaker 2: There were no guns, there were no bombs, there were 129 00:08:16,760 --> 00:08:19,280 Speaker 2: no threats. Just to name on a list and a 130 00:08:19,360 --> 00:08:23,080 Speaker 2: label and that's all it took. So when we get back, 131 00:08:23,160 --> 00:08:27,960 Speaker 2: let's contrast that with the Liverpool seven, the seven radical 132 00:08:28,080 --> 00:08:33,000 Speaker 2: Islamis that were being monitored. There's a huge difference. It's 133 00:08:33,040 --> 00:08:35,160 Speaker 2: the weekend of Michael Brown. Text line as usual is 134 00:08:35,160 --> 00:08:38,600 Speaker 2: always open three to three one zero three. Keyword Michael. Michael, 135 00:08:38,640 --> 00:08:47,480 Speaker 2: I'll be right back back to Australia. Welcome back to 136 00:08:47,480 --> 00:08:49,640 Speaker 2: the Weekend with Michael Brown. Glad to have you with me. 137 00:08:49,640 --> 00:08:53,440 Speaker 2: Merry Christmas everyone. So the cops did their job, but 138 00:08:53,520 --> 00:08:58,439 Speaker 2: what about the Liverpool seven Liverpool in Australia. They were 139 00:08:58,440 --> 00:09:02,480 Speaker 2: being monitored, they were actually linked to an ideology that 140 00:09:02,559 --> 00:09:05,800 Speaker 2: had just inspired the worst terrorist attack in Australia in 141 00:09:05,880 --> 00:09:08,120 Speaker 2: nearly thirty years. And yet they're out on the street, 142 00:09:08,600 --> 00:09:12,160 Speaker 2: back in the community under surveillance. Yeah, under surveillance, but 143 00:09:12,160 --> 00:09:16,520 Speaker 2: they're walking around free. So why the double standard? And 144 00:09:16,600 --> 00:09:19,319 Speaker 2: I'm not arguing for or against that they should be 145 00:09:19,440 --> 00:09:22,080 Speaker 2: arrested and not be arrested. I'm just pointing out there's 146 00:09:22,080 --> 00:09:23,960 Speaker 2: a double standard here that we ought at least be 147 00:09:24,040 --> 00:09:27,240 Speaker 2: aware of and say is this the right thing or 148 00:09:27,280 --> 00:09:29,719 Speaker 2: not the right thing? Now, the cops did their job, 149 00:09:29,800 --> 00:09:33,400 Speaker 2: let's be clear about that. The tactical teams went in 150 00:09:33,440 --> 00:09:37,040 Speaker 2: hard and fast. But it's the rest of the system, 151 00:09:37,040 --> 00:09:41,160 Speaker 2: the bureaucrats, the politicians, the useful idiots who can't seem 152 00:09:41,160 --> 00:09:43,880 Speaker 2: to stomach the truth. Radical Islam is not just a 153 00:09:43,920 --> 00:09:47,680 Speaker 2: foreign problem. It's in Australia just like it is it's 154 00:09:47,720 --> 00:09:51,440 Speaker 2: permeating everywhere, you know. I just as a parenthetical here, 155 00:09:52,720 --> 00:09:56,240 Speaker 2: I don't really want it to happen in Japan because 156 00:09:56,320 --> 00:10:01,760 Speaker 2: Japan is such a homogeneous society and it's such a 157 00:10:01,800 --> 00:10:05,280 Speaker 2: wonderful society. I love Japan, So there's my bias. I 158 00:10:05,320 --> 00:10:10,480 Speaker 2: love Japan. But they're moving in there and they're wanting 159 00:10:10,480 --> 00:10:13,240 Speaker 2: to build mosques, and Japan's trying to figure out what 160 00:10:13,280 --> 00:10:16,240 Speaker 2: to do. I really wish them well because I wonder 161 00:10:16,280 --> 00:10:18,719 Speaker 2: how they're going to deal with that compared to how 162 00:10:18,720 --> 00:10:23,120 Speaker 2: Australia is dealing with it. Radical Islam is not just 163 00:10:23,240 --> 00:10:28,640 Speaker 2: a foreign problem. It's everywhere. And if everybody keeps treating 164 00:10:28,679 --> 00:10:31,960 Speaker 2: it like some sort of unfortunate coincidence instead of an 165 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:38,040 Speaker 2: actual pattern a political movement. If we just keep releasing, redacting, retreating, 166 00:10:38,600 --> 00:10:40,880 Speaker 2: somebody somewhere is going to pay for it again, and 167 00:10:40,920 --> 00:10:44,440 Speaker 2: they'll pay for it in blood. The phrase used by 168 00:10:44,440 --> 00:10:49,720 Speaker 2: one Australian official set it all quote men who harbor 169 00:10:50,280 --> 00:10:59,360 Speaker 2: islawmic state ideology. Well, how about just Muslim extremists. Do 170 00:10:59,400 --> 00:11:04,000 Speaker 2: they refer to these nationalists members as men who just 171 00:11:04,080 --> 00:11:08,480 Speaker 2: harbor ultra nationalist ideology or do they call them what 172 00:11:08,520 --> 00:11:13,960 Speaker 2: they really are neo Nazis. Ideology seems to matter enough 173 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:17,240 Speaker 2: to take action if it's neo Nazis, but not if 174 00:11:17,280 --> 00:11:21,760 Speaker 2: it's oh, radical Islamis. It was enough for them to 175 00:11:21,760 --> 00:11:24,920 Speaker 2: deport a man to another continent for holding an ultra 176 00:11:25,080 --> 00:11:29,480 Speaker 2: nationalist ideology, but it wasn't enough to hold seven known radical, 177 00:11:29,880 --> 00:11:33,840 Speaker 2: radicalized Muslim men who were driving the Bondy to do 178 00:11:34,240 --> 00:11:37,360 Speaker 2: I don't know what and driving there just days after 179 00:11:37,400 --> 00:11:42,960 Speaker 2: a massacre that was inspired by their Islamist ideology. Oh 180 00:11:42,960 --> 00:11:47,679 Speaker 2: my gosh, it's just it's it's nuts. What else is 181 00:11:47,800 --> 00:11:53,800 Speaker 2: going on in Australia? They're Prime Minister Anthony Albanize, who 182 00:11:53,880 --> 00:11:58,440 Speaker 2: is of the left wing Labor Party, announced sweeping new 183 00:11:58,480 --> 00:12:05,000 Speaker 2: gun control proposals following that massacre on Bondi Beach. The 184 00:12:05,080 --> 00:12:09,319 Speaker 2: attack involved an Indian immigrant and his son. They, as 185 00:12:09,360 --> 00:12:11,640 Speaker 2: we know now, opened fire on the crowd. They killed 186 00:12:11,679 --> 00:12:15,840 Speaker 2: fifteen people and they wounded forty others. The father was 187 00:12:15,880 --> 00:12:18,280 Speaker 2: shot dead by the cops at the scene. The son 188 00:12:18,400 --> 00:12:22,760 Speaker 2: was injured. Taking into custodies Into custody, authorities said the 189 00:12:22,800 --> 00:12:26,559 Speaker 2: attack was inspired by Isis. They went to the Philippines 190 00:12:27,520 --> 00:12:30,760 Speaker 2: and they spent a couple of months in the Philippines 191 00:12:31,160 --> 00:12:35,960 Speaker 2: being trained by an ISIS group in the Philippines. So 192 00:12:36,120 --> 00:12:40,000 Speaker 2: in response to the attack, the Labor Prime Minister has 193 00:12:40,120 --> 00:12:45,679 Speaker 2: argued that Australia must strengthen its firearms laws. Oh why 194 00:12:45,720 --> 00:12:50,040 Speaker 2: don't you strengthen your immigration laws. No, they're going to 195 00:12:50,080 --> 00:12:53,440 Speaker 2: focus on the weapon us. They're going to focus on 196 00:12:53,600 --> 00:13:01,120 Speaker 2: the tool, which I find freaking hilarious considering that it's Australia. 197 00:13:01,400 --> 00:13:06,439 Speaker 2: He said, this Sunday's deadly ISIS inspired anti Semitic terrorist 198 00:13:06,480 --> 00:13:10,520 Speaker 2: attack at Bondi Beach highlights the need to finish the 199 00:13:10,640 --> 00:13:18,640 Speaker 2: job on gun reform. Really, now, let's remember that that's 200 00:13:18,679 --> 00:13:22,480 Speaker 2: this very same Prime minister revealed that one of the attackers, 201 00:13:22,800 --> 00:13:26,839 Speaker 2: the father, was a licensed firearm owner who had legal 202 00:13:26,920 --> 00:13:32,880 Speaker 2: who did legally possess six guns. That same Prime minister said, 203 00:13:33,360 --> 00:13:36,240 Speaker 2: there is no reason someone living in the suburbs of 204 00:13:36,320 --> 00:13:42,280 Speaker 2: Sydney needed this many guns, you know, for us in 205 00:13:42,360 --> 00:13:45,640 Speaker 2: the United States of America, that's really one of the 206 00:13:45,760 --> 00:13:50,440 Speaker 2: stupidest things you can say, because it's none of the 207 00:13:50,480 --> 00:13:54,320 Speaker 2: government's damn business how many guns I own. Every time 208 00:13:54,520 --> 00:13:58,560 Speaker 2: I hear about a story about, oh, you know, we 209 00:13:58,679 --> 00:14:03,360 Speaker 2: rated somebody's home and we found an arsenal. What's an arsenal? 210 00:14:04,240 --> 00:14:07,760 Speaker 2: Is an arsenal? Ten guns, twenty guns, one hundred guns, 211 00:14:07,760 --> 00:14:12,360 Speaker 2: a thousand guns? What is an arsenal? And who cares 212 00:14:12,840 --> 00:14:16,920 Speaker 2: unless you can tie that air quote here arsenal to 213 00:14:17,160 --> 00:14:20,880 Speaker 2: a planned attack somewhere. The number of guns anybody owns 214 00:14:20,920 --> 00:14:24,760 Speaker 2: is im material. Now, this new measure in Australia would 215 00:14:24,800 --> 00:14:27,600 Speaker 2: place limits on the number of firearms that any one 216 00:14:27,720 --> 00:14:32,560 Speaker 2: individual can own. It will restrict firearm licenses to only 217 00:14:32,600 --> 00:14:37,120 Speaker 2: Australian citizens, and it will allow the intelligence agency. You 218 00:14:37,160 --> 00:14:39,760 Speaker 2: know something else you should know about their intelligence agencies. 219 00:14:41,240 --> 00:14:43,520 Speaker 2: I know that in this country. I mean, and I 220 00:14:43,520 --> 00:14:48,280 Speaker 2: think you know too, that we have domestic intelligence agencies 221 00:14:48,960 --> 00:14:52,280 Speaker 2: like the Department of Homeland Security, the FBI and a 222 00:14:52,280 --> 00:14:55,960 Speaker 2: few others, and then we have foreign intelligence agencies like 223 00:14:56,000 --> 00:14:59,240 Speaker 2: the CIA and the NSA is kind of a hybrid 224 00:14:59,280 --> 00:15:05,920 Speaker 2: of both. But in Australia they have just criminal intelligence 225 00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:09,760 Speaker 2: agencies and they're all kind of lumped together together. The 226 00:15:09,760 --> 00:15:13,800 Speaker 2: Prime Minister said that the government anticipates large scale confiscation 227 00:15:13,880 --> 00:15:17,080 Speaker 2: of weapons, and he said that, I quote, we expect 228 00:15:17,200 --> 00:15:20,920 Speaker 2: hundreds of thousands of firearms will be collected and destroyed 229 00:15:21,400 --> 00:15:25,640 Speaker 2: because they're going to implement a mandatory buyback scheme. Now, 230 00:15:25,840 --> 00:15:28,520 Speaker 2: state and territory governments are going to be responsible for 231 00:15:28,600 --> 00:15:34,280 Speaker 2: collecting surrendered firearms and then compensating the owners, while the 232 00:15:34,280 --> 00:15:41,680 Speaker 2: Australian federal police will oversee their destruction. H don't tread 233 00:15:41,720 --> 00:15:45,120 Speaker 2: on me. Don't try that here. And I always get 234 00:15:45,120 --> 00:15:47,840 Speaker 2: a kick out of a buy back program because did 235 00:15:47,840 --> 00:15:53,120 Speaker 2: the government sell it? No, So you're not buying back, 236 00:15:53,840 --> 00:15:58,680 Speaker 2: you're confiscating, and then you're going to compensate for the 237 00:15:58,720 --> 00:16:02,560 Speaker 2: confiscate the confiscation of the guns. It's kind of like 238 00:16:02,640 --> 00:16:06,480 Speaker 2: asset forfeiture, except there's been no crime involved. It's just 239 00:16:06,520 --> 00:16:09,120 Speaker 2: the mere possession. So like in this country, if you 240 00:16:09,160 --> 00:16:11,760 Speaker 2: commit a crime with a vehicle, then you know, if 241 00:16:11,760 --> 00:16:14,800 Speaker 2: you deal drugs and the government can prove you're dealing 242 00:16:14,840 --> 00:16:17,160 Speaker 2: drugs out of that car, well then they can confiscate 243 00:16:17,200 --> 00:16:20,600 Speaker 2: that asset, that vehicle and they can sell that all. Now, 244 00:16:21,320 --> 00:16:28,000 Speaker 2: ostensibly air quotes emphasize bold face. Ostensibly there's due process involved, 245 00:16:28,800 --> 00:16:33,240 Speaker 2: but not really. Now. The skeptics of stricter gun laws 246 00:16:33,720 --> 00:16:36,480 Speaker 2: will point to incidents and jurisdictions that have already have 247 00:16:36,560 --> 00:16:40,280 Speaker 2: heavy regulation. Earlier this year, there was a mass shooting 248 00:16:40,320 --> 00:16:43,840 Speaker 2: a school in Sweden that left multiple people dead despite 249 00:16:43,840 --> 00:16:48,560 Speaker 2: that country strict firearm ownership rules. In this country, a 250 00:16:48,640 --> 00:16:52,720 Speaker 2: twenty twenty three mass shooting in Baltimore, a jurisdiction that 251 00:16:52,760 --> 00:16:57,120 Speaker 2: has extensive gun laws and reduced policing, I might add, 252 00:16:57,560 --> 00:17:01,400 Speaker 2: left two people dead and dozens injured, renewing arguments that 253 00:17:01,640 --> 00:17:06,480 Speaker 2: gun control alone does not prevent violent crime. In fact, 254 00:17:06,480 --> 00:17:10,720 Speaker 2: I would say that gun control usually exacerbates violent crime, 255 00:17:10,800 --> 00:17:13,880 Speaker 2: because then, as we all know, only the criminals have gun. 256 00:17:14,960 --> 00:17:20,400 Speaker 2: So let's let's spend the record in Australia. We'll give 257 00:17:20,400 --> 00:17:22,000 Speaker 2: you a list when we get back. It's the Weekend 258 00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:24,919 Speaker 2: with Michael Brown. Text Lines open three three one zero three, 259 00:17:25,000 --> 00:17:27,560 Speaker 2: keyword Michael, Michael, hang tight. I'll be right back. 260 00:17:37,520 --> 00:17:37,879 Speaker 1: Good night. 261 00:17:37,920 --> 00:17:40,119 Speaker 3: Michael Brown joins me here, the former FEMA director of 262 00:17:40,160 --> 00:17:43,160 Speaker 3: talk show host Michael Brown. Brownie, no, Brownie, You're doing 263 00:17:43,160 --> 00:17:46,120 Speaker 3: a heck of a job The Weekend with Michael Brown. 264 00:17:46,359 --> 00:17:48,240 Speaker 2: Welcome back to the Weekend with Michael Brown. Glad to 265 00:17:48,280 --> 00:17:49,920 Speaker 2: have you with me. Be sure and subscribe to the 266 00:17:49,960 --> 00:17:52,840 Speaker 2: podcast on your on your podcast app. All you have 267 00:17:52,880 --> 00:17:55,800 Speaker 2: to do is search for the situation with Michael Brown. 268 00:17:56,000 --> 00:17:59,280 Speaker 2: The situation with Michael Brown. Get that subscribe button, leave 269 00:17:59,320 --> 00:18:02,080 Speaker 2: a five star because that helps us with the algorithm, 270 00:18:02,440 --> 00:18:05,399 Speaker 2: and then that will download for you all five days 271 00:18:05,440 --> 00:18:07,960 Speaker 2: of the weekday program that I do, which is a 272 00:18:07,960 --> 00:18:11,439 Speaker 2: lot like this program, plus the Saturday program. So you 273 00:18:11,480 --> 00:18:15,560 Speaker 2: get let's see, you get fifteen, you get eighteen hours, 274 00:18:16,000 --> 00:18:18,720 Speaker 2: let's see three fifteen, eighteen. Yeah, you get eighteen hours 275 00:18:18,720 --> 00:18:22,560 Speaker 2: of me. That's enough to solve any of their insomniacs 276 00:18:22,600 --> 00:18:27,520 Speaker 2: problems out there. This is the Australian Prime Minister a 277 00:18:27,560 --> 00:18:31,080 Speaker 2: couple of days ago talking about how diversity is our 278 00:18:31,119 --> 00:18:32,760 Speaker 2: strength overwhelmingly. 279 00:18:32,880 --> 00:18:35,800 Speaker 4: One of the things about this country that is what 280 00:18:35,880 --> 00:18:39,800 Speaker 4: they want is when people come to Australia, you leave 281 00:18:40,280 --> 00:18:43,160 Speaker 4: all divisions and hatreds at the door. 282 00:18:43,880 --> 00:18:48,239 Speaker 2: Really, because apparently those dirt bags didn't. They didn't leave 283 00:18:48,280 --> 00:18:51,879 Speaker 2: their hatred at the door. In fact, they came to 284 00:18:51,880 --> 00:18:56,480 Speaker 2: Australia and then they took their radicalization and went to 285 00:18:56,560 --> 00:18:59,720 Speaker 2: the Philippines and got trained in how to massacre people, 286 00:18:59,760 --> 00:19:03,119 Speaker 2: how to shoot from defensive positions, and then went to 287 00:19:03,160 --> 00:19:08,240 Speaker 2: the beach and on the first day of Hanukah massacred Jews. So, 288 00:19:08,880 --> 00:19:11,919 Speaker 2: mister Prime Minister, are you paying attention. Are you awake? 289 00:19:13,280 --> 00:19:19,000 Speaker 2: This is my problem with anyone who is unwilling to 290 00:19:19,480 --> 00:19:27,480 Speaker 2: recognize that Islamists are a danger to Western civilization. It's 291 00:19:27,760 --> 00:19:32,640 Speaker 2: just oil and water. It just does not mix at 292 00:19:32,680 --> 00:19:35,040 Speaker 2: the door. When you come to Australia. 293 00:19:35,520 --> 00:19:42,360 Speaker 4: You are here to support our society, of which is diverse. 294 00:19:42,840 --> 00:19:46,639 Speaker 4: But that diversity is a strength, and. 295 00:19:46,560 --> 00:19:49,240 Speaker 2: That is what enough of that. I just want you 296 00:19:49,280 --> 00:19:54,760 Speaker 2: to hear the diversity is our strength, because is it really? 297 00:19:55,560 --> 00:20:01,240 Speaker 2: I don't think that that's the case. He then said 298 00:20:01,400 --> 00:20:08,119 Speaker 2: in another SoundBite, he talked about how past protests, misinformation, 299 00:20:09,400 --> 00:20:13,280 Speaker 2: all of that is what's to blame for the Bondi 300 00:20:13,359 --> 00:20:16,480 Speaker 2: Beach attack. Thank you. 301 00:20:16,520 --> 00:20:19,920 Speaker 1: There's a been discussion about protests. Josh Fredenberg and others 302 00:20:19,960 --> 00:20:22,960 Speaker 1: have said that some of these demonstrations that have happened 303 00:20:22,960 --> 00:20:24,959 Speaker 1: over the last couple of years shouldn't have occurred, They 304 00:20:24,960 --> 00:20:28,440 Speaker 1: shouldn't occur in future. Obviously. Chris Mins, on a state issue, 305 00:20:28,920 --> 00:20:35,760 Speaker 1: announced plans for legislation upcoming to curtailed demonstrations large public 306 00:20:35,800 --> 00:20:39,760 Speaker 1: gatherings after a terror terror designation. Could I ask you 307 00:20:39,880 --> 00:20:42,640 Speaker 1: do you believe the tenor of any of these protests 308 00:20:42,680 --> 00:20:45,880 Speaker 1: demonstrations contributed to what we saw on the weekend, And 309 00:20:45,920 --> 00:20:50,000 Speaker 1: do you personally have any concerns about demonstrations occurring in 310 00:20:50,080 --> 00:20:51,280 Speaker 1: the near future. 311 00:20:51,520 --> 00:20:59,639 Speaker 4: Well, hatred starts with language and then moves to action 312 00:20:59,800 --> 00:21:07,680 Speaker 4: and filifications and then can lead to an escalation of it. 313 00:21:07,840 --> 00:21:14,240 Speaker 4: I certainly have been concerned and have expressed continually my 314 00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:20,760 Speaker 4: concern about some of the language that's used during some 315 00:21:20,880 --> 00:21:26,720 Speaker 4: of the misinformation as well, which is there Australians want 316 00:21:26,840 --> 00:21:30,840 Speaker 4: overwhelmingly One of the things about this country is what 317 00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:34,840 Speaker 4: they want is when people come to Australia, you leave 318 00:21:35,320 --> 00:21:39,879 Speaker 4: old divisions and hatreds at the door, but they don't. 319 00:21:41,359 --> 00:21:47,480 Speaker 2: And if you think that language and demonstrations escalate into incitement, 320 00:21:48,320 --> 00:21:53,240 Speaker 2: then why don't you do what we do here. You know, 321 00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:57,399 Speaker 2: we've often talked about the fire and the theater, and 322 00:21:57,880 --> 00:22:02,080 Speaker 2: my explanation of that court decision has been, yes, you 323 00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:08,120 Speaker 2: can shout fire falsely shout fire in a theater. There's 324 00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:14,760 Speaker 2: no police, there's no prior restraint, there's no speech police 325 00:22:14,840 --> 00:22:19,120 Speaker 2: following you everywhere that is standing you know, at behind 326 00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:22,800 Speaker 2: at the door into the theater, that the minute you 327 00:22:22,840 --> 00:22:24,439 Speaker 2: stand up, is going to come down and say what 328 00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:25,879 Speaker 2: are you going to say? You can't you know, there's 329 00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:29,760 Speaker 2: we don't do that. So from a practical point of view, 330 00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:32,520 Speaker 2: you can stand up and falsely shout fire in a theater, 331 00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:36,520 Speaker 2: but if that causes a stampede and injures people, you're 332 00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:39,680 Speaker 2: going to be held liable both civilly and perhaps even 333 00:22:39,720 --> 00:22:45,040 Speaker 2: criminally for that speech. Even with our First Amendment, where 334 00:22:45,080 --> 00:22:49,200 Speaker 2: we recognize that the government cannot, and in some cases, 335 00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:54,000 Speaker 2: in some specialized cases, even private individuals or institutions cannot 336 00:22:54,040 --> 00:22:58,240 Speaker 2: limit your freedom of speech. But even with that broad 337 00:22:58,720 --> 00:23:02,280 Speaker 2: recognition of how important free speech is, we still recognize 338 00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:06,879 Speaker 2: that there are some limitations. And even that limitation I 339 00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:11,240 Speaker 2: just told you does not stop you committing what could 340 00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:14,879 Speaker 2: turn out to be a crime by inciting violence and 341 00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:19,359 Speaker 2: by creating the conditions for people to be harmed. But 342 00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:23,320 Speaker 2: Australia doesn't do that. Instead, they want to focus on 343 00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:27,760 Speaker 2: the guns, because for them, it's the gun that is 344 00:23:27,800 --> 00:23:32,439 Speaker 2: the problem. It's not the radical Islamis, it's none of that. 345 00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:36,560 Speaker 2: It's oh, it's the guns. So they're going to do 346 00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:40,120 Speaker 2: a gun buy back problem, and they're gonna do it 347 00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:44,240 Speaker 2: that's kinda a Freudian slip. They're going to do a 348 00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:51,119 Speaker 2: gun buy back program. Well, they've already got some of 349 00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:57,160 Speaker 2: the strictest gun laws in the entire world. So when 350 00:23:57,160 --> 00:24:01,000 Speaker 2: they make a claim that there and they do make 351 00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:07,920 Speaker 2: this claim because they define a mass shooting as five 352 00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:11,560 Speaker 2: or more people in one incident, and then they go 353 00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:16,840 Speaker 2: on to claim that there had been no mass shootings. Well, 354 00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:21,280 Speaker 2: a friend of mine, you know, heard me talking about 355 00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:27,480 Speaker 2: this yesterday and sent me a list. The Childer's Palace 356 00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:35,000 Speaker 2: fire June of two thousand killed fifteen people. Seth Gonzalez 357 00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:39,480 Speaker 2: July ten, two thousand and one, bludgeoned to death his sister, mother, 358 00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:42,600 Speaker 2: and father with a baseball bat. Oh, not a gun, 359 00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:47,400 Speaker 2: a baseball bat. The Manass University shooting October of two 360 00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:51,600 Speaker 2: one young Zang a student, shot his class maiden teacher, 361 00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:55,520 Speaker 2: killing two an injuring five. The Churchill fire, I remember 362 00:24:55,520 --> 00:25:02,080 Speaker 2: this was horrible. Ten confirmed deaths because of arson. The 363 00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:06,159 Speaker 2: fire was lit on February seven, o nine. The Lynn 364 00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:09,920 Speaker 2: family murders July of nine. Lea and Ben Robert Zee 365 00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:12,440 Speaker 2: killed his sister, her husband, and three members of a 366 00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:16,000 Speaker 2: family five person from the Lynn family with a hammer. 367 00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:20,400 Speaker 2: The faces of the victims were so disfigured that forensics 368 00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:25,080 Speaker 2: had to be used to identify them. The twenty eleven 369 00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:28,760 Speaker 2: Hectreville Siege, a mass shooting took place on Friday April 370 00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:33,080 Speaker 2: twenty nine, twenty eleven, took place in Hectreville, South Australia. 371 00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:36,840 Speaker 2: Gobam started after a thirty nine year old male, Donato 372 00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:40,879 Speaker 2: Anthony Corbo went on a shooting rampage, killing three people, 373 00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:43,840 Speaker 2: winning a child two cops before being arrested by the 374 00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:48,919 Speaker 2: Special Operations Police after an eight hour standoff. The Quaker 375 00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:51,920 Speaker 2: Hill Nursing Home fire. Ten confirmed and as many as 376 00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:55,320 Speaker 2: twenty one people may have died as a result of 377 00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:59,120 Speaker 2: a deliberately lit fire in a Quaker's Hill nursing home 378 00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:04,760 Speaker 2: November eighteen, twenty eleven. The Hunt family murders. Jeff Hunt 379 00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:06,920 Speaker 2: killed his wife and three children before turning the gun 380 00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:13,040 Speaker 2: on himself. In twenty fourteen became stabbing. A woman stabbed 381 00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:16,760 Speaker 2: eight kids to death on Friday twenty fourteen December nineteen, 382 00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:21,520 Speaker 2: twenty fourteen. Seven of them were owned Margaret River May eleven, 383 00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:26,000 Speaker 2: twenty eighteen. Seven killed by a gunman Darwin June fifth, 384 00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:29,119 Speaker 2: twenty nineteen. Four people killed at a hotel by a 385 00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:34,119 Speaker 2: man using a pombashion action shotgun and then the claim 386 00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:36,679 Speaker 2: that there have been a drop in deaths is somehow 387 00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:40,720 Speaker 2: a tributal almost entirely to a drop and is almost 388 00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:45,439 Speaker 2: entirely a tributal to a drop in suicides, but not 389 00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:50,280 Speaker 2: a decrease in total suicides. Suicide people just found other 390 00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:55,560 Speaker 2: methods where there was no longer a gun available, but 391 00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:58,840 Speaker 2: yet they went to claim that, oh, it's the guns 392 00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:01,640 Speaker 2: and we're going to use the gun. So now they're 393 00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:05,919 Speaker 2: going to do the gun buy back program. It's not 394 00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:11,080 Speaker 2: going to change anything unless and until they the Australian 395 00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:16,879 Speaker 2: government and all of Western civilization recognizes that radical islamis 396 00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:23,080 Speaker 2: Islamis are an anathema to all of the things that 397 00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:27,440 Speaker 2: we believe in Western society. Freedom of speech, freedom of religion, 398 00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:30,760 Speaker 2: the right of the god given natural right of self defense, 399 00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:36,719 Speaker 2: all of those things will and are under attacked by Islam, 400 00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:42,920 Speaker 2: which is truly just a form of government wrapped in 401 00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:47,479 Speaker 2: a religion. That's what it is. And unless and until 402 00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:51,600 Speaker 2: people are willing to acknowledge that and recognize it and 403 00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:55,840 Speaker 2: quit calling it the religion of peace, will continue to 404 00:27:55,880 --> 00:28:00,880 Speaker 2: see this happen. Oh hmm, we just at in Syria 405 00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:05,520 Speaker 2: where we lost some of our own military members hang tight. 406 00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:13,720 Speaker 2: I'll be right back. Welcome back to the weekend with 407 00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:16,600 Speaker 2: Michael Brown. Glad to have you with me. The very 408 00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:20,360 Speaker 2: first defendant in this sprawling Medicaid autism program fraud going 409 00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:23,840 Speaker 2: on in Minnesota pleaded guilty to one count of wire 410 00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:29,200 Speaker 2: fraud day before yesterday. Usha Varhan Hassan, aged twenty eight, 411 00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:32,720 Speaker 2: was part of a scheme that was defrauding Medicaid. Of 412 00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:35,600 Speaker 2: this is just one part of it. We now know 413 00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:37,520 Speaker 2: this is going to be well in excess of a 414 00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:43,360 Speaker 2: billion dollars. But this one individual, one individual, defrauding Medicaid 415 00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:48,720 Speaker 2: of fourteen million taxpayer dollars. Now, I just want to 416 00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:51,120 Speaker 2: remind you that I know this is Medicaid and that 417 00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:53,560 Speaker 2: a lot of Medicaid dollars come from you know, the states, 418 00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:56,600 Speaker 2: but also a lot of Medicaid dollars come from all 419 00:28:56,680 --> 00:28:59,840 Speaker 2: of us and then get distributed out to the states. 420 00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:03,760 Speaker 2: So if you're soon to be getting a paycheck, I 421 00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:05,680 Speaker 2: want you to look at your paycheck and look at 422 00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:09,480 Speaker 2: the Medicaid, the Medicare taxes that you pay, you know, 423 00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:11,080 Speaker 2: when you look at your fight and all of that 424 00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:17,800 Speaker 2: stuff that gets deducted because you help this dumbass collect 425 00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:21,840 Speaker 2: fourteen million dollars. Now that's just the tip of the iceberg, 426 00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:25,920 Speaker 2: because he was also participating in a separate fraud scheme 427 00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:28,920 Speaker 2: that saw the theft of about four hundred and sixty five 428 00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:31,000 Speaker 2: thousand Can I just say half a million, thank you, 429 00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:34,320 Speaker 2: half a million dollars from a food assistant program for 430 00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:42,200 Speaker 2: needy children. Merry Christmas, everybody. These are the people that Minnesota, 431 00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:48,120 Speaker 2: in this Somali community, keeps importing. And then we're called 432 00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:52,600 Speaker 2: racist because we point to a particular group of people 433 00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:57,920 Speaker 2: that are inherently engaged in fraud and we point out 434 00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:00,680 Speaker 2: the fraud, and then somehow we're there are races for 435 00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:03,440 Speaker 2: pointing out the fraud and that it is confined to 436 00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:06,960 Speaker 2: not solely. I'm sure that once we dig into this, 437 00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:12,200 Speaker 2: we'll find maybe even some Caucasians, maybe even some Blacks 438 00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:16,800 Speaker 2: or Mexicans or Hispanics or Asians, or if we forget races, 439 00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:19,160 Speaker 2: will get into all the ethnicities. You might even find 440 00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:25,040 Speaker 2: a Presbyterian or two who knows engaging in fraud. Meanwhile, 441 00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:29,040 Speaker 2: the US Attorney's Office for Minnesota announced new charges against 442 00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:32,560 Speaker 2: six other defendants in what the Department of Justice is 443 00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:40,520 Speaker 2: describing as staggering industrial scale fraud. The schemes are part 444 00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:43,800 Speaker 2: of this larger fraud conspiracy, all tied to the state's 445 00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:46,840 Speaker 2: smally immigrant community, which is now believed to have seen 446 00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:53,000 Speaker 2: the theft of an estimated nine billion dollars in taxpayer dollars. Now, 447 00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:58,160 Speaker 2: this is not isolated. This excuse me, swallowed run. This 448 00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:03,080 Speaker 2: is not some isolated incident. But guess what. Tim Wallas 449 00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:04,440 Speaker 2: is really upset about it. 450 00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:07,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, the team is and I could I will 451 00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:09,720 Speaker 3: get them here on this. Look, this is one of 452 00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:12,760 Speaker 3: I don't want to say the number, it's countless numbers. 453 00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:15,360 Speaker 3: Every night I get an update on this of the 454 00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:18,320 Speaker 3: threats to our federal money, on everything we do. Because look, 455 00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:20,960 Speaker 3: right now, it's very clear the entire federal government is 456 00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:25,480 Speaker 3: weaponized against Minnesota and the issues of things that should 457 00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:28,840 Speaker 3: be states, right states to control. They're threatening us with this, 458 00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:31,400 Speaker 3: and this is what happens when you have a floundering presidency, 459 00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:33,680 Speaker 3: and it is about those ballrooms and everything else. Now 460 00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:37,280 Speaker 3: we're back on transgender folks, and these are healthcare providers 461 00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:40,160 Speaker 3: providing the best guidance to parents and children to get 462 00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:43,160 Speaker 3: their care. So we're assessing what it means. It's on 463 00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:48,800 Speaker 3: every front. It's CDLs, it's transportation money, it's money across 464 00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:50,840 Speaker 3: the board that they have weaponized. 465 00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:56,840 Speaker 2: But I love about these kinds of comments is let's 466 00:31:56,920 --> 00:32:02,000 Speaker 2: never deal with the crimes that we have. Let's somehow 467 00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:04,160 Speaker 2: shift it over to this is all the fault of 468 00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:08,480 Speaker 2: the Trump administration. And there now they are. The Trump 469 00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:14,240 Speaker 2: administration is now weaponizing federal funds against the entire state. 470 00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:23,040 Speaker 2: I would say we are, and we're rightfully doing so, 471 00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:27,960 Speaker 2: because when you have whether it's one billion, nine billion 472 00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:30,480 Speaker 2: or turns out to be forty billion dollars as some 473 00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:35,880 Speaker 2: estimates I've seen, in fraud, you ought to start questioning 474 00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:40,800 Speaker 2: every single federal dollar that goes to a state. And 475 00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:45,320 Speaker 2: Minnesota is not along alone. I'm certain that if we 476 00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:48,160 Speaker 2: started digging into oh, I don't know, let me just 477 00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:55,840 Speaker 2: think Colorado, California, Illinois, Massachusetts, New York, We're going to 478 00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:59,840 Speaker 2: find something similar. And I would even point out I 479 00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:03,400 Speaker 2: and this is based on my own personal experience inside 480 00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:08,959 Speaker 2: the Beltway as the undersecretary, I found fraud all the time. 481 00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:13,080 Speaker 2: We did everything we could to minimize it. I mistakenly 482 00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:18,520 Speaker 2: told the truth to a Senate committee one time, complaining about, 483 00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:21,040 Speaker 2: you know, some fraud in a program we had discovered, 484 00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:24,600 Speaker 2: and I said, yes, that fraud is there, and we 485 00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:27,040 Speaker 2: have minimized that fraud and we continue to try to 486 00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:30,800 Speaker 2: minimize it as best we can. But there will always 487 00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:34,959 Speaker 2: be fraud. Our job is to try to mitigate against it, 488 00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:38,280 Speaker 2: prevent it, stop it, and when we find it, you know, 489 00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:41,160 Speaker 2: go after the people have committed the fraud and stop it. 490 00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:44,640 Speaker 2: But whenever you've got federal money involved, there's going to 491 00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:49,120 Speaker 2: be fraud involved. Oh my god, it was heresy. You 492 00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:52,200 Speaker 2: can't tell us the truth like that because we can't 493 00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:57,560 Speaker 2: handle the truth drives me crazy. I want to be clear, though, 494 00:33:57,760 --> 00:34:01,280 Speaker 2: It's not an isolated scheme in Minnesota, from Feeding our 495 00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:04,920 Speaker 2: Future to housing stabilization services and now the autism services. 496 00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:08,239 Speaker 2: Those massive fraud schemes from a web that's stolen billions 497 00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:11,120 Speaker 2: of dollars in taxpayer money. Every case that they bring 498 00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:14,920 Speaker 2: exposes another strand of that network. So the challenge is 499 00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:19,480 Speaker 2: immense and their work's going to have to continue. Evidence 500 00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:23,600 Speaker 2: presented by federal prosecutors detailed how this particular dirt bag 501 00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:28,320 Speaker 2: participated in fraudulent claims for a medicaid program trying to 502 00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:32,000 Speaker 2: support children with autism spectrum disorder and in the Feeding 503 00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:36,560 Speaker 2: our Future nonprofit. Oh go oh another NGO shocker? You 504 00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:40,200 Speaker 2: mean an nng O and non government organizations is fraudulently 505 00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:45,279 Speaker 2: dolling out money. I'm shocked. You mean there's prostitution in 506 00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:51,759 Speaker 2: the whorehouse. Unbelievable, And now Waltz facing mounting criticism for 507 00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:55,840 Speaker 2: his administration's failure to take action against these fraudulent schemes. 508 00:34:56,440 --> 00:35:00,239 Speaker 2: State government whistleblowers have been claiming for a lot long 509 00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:03,520 Speaker 2: time that Waltz and other state officials were aware of 510 00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:07,160 Speaker 2: the fraud network going all the way back to twenty nineteen, 511 00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:10,480 Speaker 2: but they wouldn't take legal action because they were fearful 512 00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:15,719 Speaker 2: of being seen as racist because of the Somali community. 513 00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:19,240 Speaker 2: I arrest my Casier honor, so we came with Michael Brown. 514 00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:21,000 Speaker 2: Hang tight, I'll be right back.