1 00:00:00,560 --> 00:00:06,960 Speaker 1: This is Tony Pike Cincy three sixty about Cincinnati. From Cincinnati. 2 00:00:07,120 --> 00:00:11,799 Speaker 1: This is ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station. 3 00:00:14,240 --> 00:00:14,920 Speaker 2: Welcome back. 4 00:00:15,000 --> 00:00:19,720 Speaker 3: It is Sincy three sixty, ESBN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station. 5 00:00:19,800 --> 00:00:23,040 Speaker 3: And we move on to our number two. As we 6 00:00:23,079 --> 00:00:25,200 Speaker 3: get started each and every Tuesday. It's a little bit 7 00:00:25,239 --> 00:00:27,720 Speaker 3: different today because we are talking to our guy, Joe Danaman, 8 00:00:27,760 --> 00:00:31,920 Speaker 3: but we're just talking to the Joe Danoman Goodyear edition. 9 00:00:32,080 --> 00:00:35,600 Speaker 3: He's in Arizona, he's covering spring training. Still making time 10 00:00:35,640 --> 00:00:37,120 Speaker 3: for us, Joey d what's going on? 11 00:00:38,560 --> 00:00:41,559 Speaker 1: So before I forget, gentlemen, As I was picking up 12 00:00:41,600 --> 00:00:44,520 Speaker 1: the phone to make this call, I walked by Charlie 13 00:00:44,520 --> 00:00:47,640 Speaker 1: Goldsmith who was on a bench next to the mainfield 14 00:00:47,680 --> 00:00:50,600 Speaker 1: where Hunter Green will be throwing live batting practice at 15 00:00:50,640 --> 00:00:53,520 Speaker 1: about thirty minutes. Charlie was sitting down to a meal 16 00:00:53,560 --> 00:00:55,960 Speaker 1: of a nice sandwich, a bag of chips, and a sprite, 17 00:00:56,320 --> 00:00:59,320 Speaker 1: and he said, tell the guys. I said Hi, So 18 00:00:59,440 --> 00:01:06,400 Speaker 1: Charlie Golden Smith says hello. Starts out here in Goodyear time. 19 00:01:07,720 --> 00:01:10,319 Speaker 1: I try to have the kind of wark ethic where 20 00:01:10,319 --> 00:01:12,080 Speaker 1: you're the first person in and last one out and 21 00:01:12,160 --> 00:01:15,120 Speaker 1: Charlie beats us every single day to the complex. I 22 00:01:15,120 --> 00:01:18,120 Speaker 1: don't know what he's doing here at seven am. At 23 00:01:18,200 --> 00:01:21,440 Speaker 1: least Jeremy and myself have TV equipment to set up. 24 00:01:21,440 --> 00:01:22,959 Speaker 1: It takes a good twenty minutes to get all that 25 00:01:23,040 --> 00:01:26,120 Speaker 1: set up before the guys even get here. But Charlie's there, 26 00:01:26,240 --> 00:01:30,160 Speaker 1: headphones on, get this work done, grinding, always grinding at 27 00:01:30,160 --> 00:01:30,880 Speaker 1: red Spring Training. 28 00:01:31,040 --> 00:01:34,319 Speaker 2: Charlie once told me about his philosophy in spring training 29 00:01:34,360 --> 00:01:37,600 Speaker 2: and getting there early, and he said it is the 30 00:01:37,600 --> 00:01:40,039 Speaker 2: most important part of the day when you're the first 31 00:01:40,040 --> 00:01:42,880 Speaker 2: one in. And I won't divulge all of his secrets. Wow, 32 00:01:43,319 --> 00:01:45,520 Speaker 2: I mean it's it's not a surprise the guy gets 33 00:01:45,520 --> 00:01:48,360 Speaker 2: it done. And he said it's the most important and 34 00:01:48,360 --> 00:01:49,720 Speaker 2: impactful part of his day. 35 00:01:51,600 --> 00:01:54,960 Speaker 1: It amazes me every year A how much guys notice 36 00:01:55,000 --> 00:01:58,360 Speaker 1: who does get here early, and b how early the 37 00:01:58,440 --> 00:02:00,360 Speaker 1: guys do get here because they don't have a team 38 00:02:00,400 --> 00:02:03,600 Speaker 1: meeting until nine am local. I would say this place 39 00:02:03,680 --> 00:02:07,560 Speaker 1: is fully jumping at about seven thirty, with guys getting 40 00:02:07,640 --> 00:02:10,280 Speaker 1: here early, trying to get loose, doing whatever they have 41 00:02:10,400 --> 00:02:13,320 Speaker 1: to do to get a jumpstart on the day. It's impressive. 42 00:02:13,720 --> 00:02:15,840 Speaker 1: Terry Francona even made note of that yesterday and we 43 00:02:15,880 --> 00:02:18,000 Speaker 1: talked to him. He said, it's impressive how ready the 44 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:19,160 Speaker 1: guys are to get this going. 45 00:02:19,480 --> 00:02:22,280 Speaker 3: You guys have already been pumping out a ton of 46 00:02:22,320 --> 00:02:26,359 Speaker 3: awesome content with boots on the ground there in Arizona. 47 00:02:26,440 --> 00:02:31,200 Speaker 3: You've had a chance to talk to multiple multiple players. 48 00:02:31,240 --> 00:02:35,079 Speaker 3: I've seen conversations with Suarez and Friedel and Ellie and 49 00:02:35,639 --> 00:02:38,960 Speaker 3: Terry Francona. In the conversations you've had a chance to 50 00:02:39,200 --> 00:02:42,520 Speaker 3: have up to this point, are there things? Are there 51 00:02:42,560 --> 00:02:46,880 Speaker 3: messages that have stood out the most from different players? 52 00:02:46,880 --> 00:02:51,480 Speaker 1: Without question, Terry Francona set an expectation yesterday when they 53 00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:53,799 Speaker 1: had their meeting before the first full team workout of 54 00:02:53,840 --> 00:02:56,480 Speaker 1: spring training when he said, guys, it's time to go. 55 00:02:57,080 --> 00:03:01,799 Speaker 1: The understanding being that last year cool wild cards snuck 56 00:03:01,880 --> 00:03:05,840 Speaker 1: in had a taste. Don't forget that. Enjoy that, celebrate 57 00:03:05,919 --> 00:03:08,440 Speaker 1: that that's a good accomplishment. But at the same time, 58 00:03:08,520 --> 00:03:10,520 Speaker 1: now it's time to go. And I think that's been 59 00:03:10,600 --> 00:03:15,080 Speaker 1: echoed throughout that TJ. Friedel said it yesterday, au Hennio 60 00:03:15,120 --> 00:03:18,640 Speaker 1: Suarez said it yesterday. The idea that we have to 61 00:03:18,720 --> 00:03:23,160 Speaker 1: have the mentality that we're here to win championships, that 62 00:03:23,240 --> 00:03:25,880 Speaker 1: the idea of getting to the playoffs is no longer 63 00:03:25,919 --> 00:03:28,440 Speaker 1: the goal. And even if they come up short of 64 00:03:28,480 --> 00:03:31,000 Speaker 1: that goal and you're in the same league as the 65 00:03:31,120 --> 00:03:35,000 Speaker 1: LA Dodgers, we get that. But I think that has 66 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:37,280 Speaker 1: to be the mentality, and that's what they've said so far, 67 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:39,640 Speaker 1: that it's time to go, that it's time to graduate 68 00:03:39,840 --> 00:03:42,920 Speaker 1: from just making the playoffs to now competing to do 69 00:03:43,040 --> 00:03:46,200 Speaker 1: damage in the playoffs and having at least a mindset 70 00:03:46,240 --> 00:03:47,960 Speaker 1: that this team's going to show up and try to 71 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:49,920 Speaker 1: win a championship in twenty twenty six. 72 00:03:50,320 --> 00:03:53,040 Speaker 3: What do you make early on of you, Honeyosuarez, because 73 00:03:53,080 --> 00:03:55,920 Speaker 3: now he comes back to the Reds as the veteran presence, 74 00:03:55,960 --> 00:03:58,920 Speaker 3: and I've seen different ports about him getting out there early, 75 00:03:59,280 --> 00:04:01,320 Speaker 3: him making an imp to get some work in at 76 00:04:01,400 --> 00:04:03,520 Speaker 3: first base and different things like that. What have you 77 00:04:03,600 --> 00:04:06,280 Speaker 3: seen from Smars Because it would be easy to come 78 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:08,720 Speaker 3: back in and kind of rely on him the designated hitter. 79 00:04:09,440 --> 00:04:11,360 Speaker 3: My track record already is what it is, but it 80 00:04:11,400 --> 00:04:13,880 Speaker 3: feels like that's not the approach he's taken in his 81 00:04:14,040 --> 00:04:16,400 Speaker 3: short time already at training camp, at spring training. 82 00:04:16,880 --> 00:04:19,560 Speaker 1: So it was funny yesterday we're setting up to talk 83 00:04:19,600 --> 00:04:23,159 Speaker 1: to Aohannio and we're near about ten or fifteen fans 84 00:04:23,160 --> 00:04:26,360 Speaker 1: who are kind of straggling near the fence, and they're yelling, hey, hey, 85 00:04:26,480 --> 00:04:29,080 Speaker 1: Hennio hits forty hit fifty hard runs. And he's laughing, 86 00:04:29,279 --> 00:04:31,800 Speaker 1: and some guy yells, hey, get your four hundreds this year, 87 00:04:32,320 --> 00:04:34,080 Speaker 1: and Sous turns around and says, you know, I would 88 00:04:34,120 --> 00:04:36,919 Speaker 1: have to hit seventy five home runs this year to 89 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:39,040 Speaker 1: get to four hundred. I mean, these are the kind 90 00:04:39,080 --> 00:04:41,400 Speaker 1: of expectations. Now, he says he loves it, He loves 91 00:04:41,440 --> 00:04:44,000 Speaker 1: the fact that people have the kind of expectations to 92 00:04:44,080 --> 00:04:46,200 Speaker 1: hit forty or fifty hard runs. But he said, listen, 93 00:04:46,400 --> 00:04:49,200 Speaker 1: I'm not a superhero. I'm not here to carry this 94 00:04:49,279 --> 00:04:51,320 Speaker 1: team or be the missing piece. I'm here to help 95 00:04:51,360 --> 00:04:54,039 Speaker 1: this team and do whatever I can to help this 96 00:04:54,080 --> 00:04:56,400 Speaker 1: team in the middle of the order and provide that pop. 97 00:04:56,480 --> 00:04:58,920 Speaker 1: But more than that. In Austin, you and I talked 98 00:04:58,920 --> 00:05:02,200 Speaker 1: about it on Sunday. WLW was the idea of his 99 00:05:02,320 --> 00:05:06,240 Speaker 1: presence kind of feels like a magnet right now for 100 00:05:06,400 --> 00:05:09,960 Speaker 1: the younger Spanish speaking players. So the red start of 101 00:05:09,960 --> 00:05:12,120 Speaker 1: the day, they went out and they did some pallisthenics. 102 00:05:12,200 --> 00:05:14,960 Speaker 1: They did jumping jacksons and running all the stuff you 103 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:17,039 Speaker 1: do to get ready, and then they broke off to 104 00:05:17,080 --> 00:05:20,600 Speaker 1: go throw and they typically pair up and there's this 105 00:05:20,680 --> 00:05:25,560 Speaker 1: little group right of noelbe Marte, Edwin Arroyo, au Hennio 106 00:05:25,640 --> 00:05:28,720 Speaker 1: Suarez and Elie de la Cruz all kind of around 107 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:31,560 Speaker 1: each other having a good time, laughing, joking, And I 108 00:05:31,560 --> 00:05:34,120 Speaker 1: think that's important. And I don't know if it takes 109 00:05:34,120 --> 00:05:37,080 Speaker 1: any pressure off of Elie. Certainly his presence and the 110 00:05:37,120 --> 00:05:39,560 Speaker 1: lineup takes some pressure off of Ellie, but just having 111 00:05:39,680 --> 00:05:43,400 Speaker 1: him here almost like a guy who has experience, has 112 00:05:43,440 --> 00:05:46,280 Speaker 1: the same kind of life experience of learning the language 113 00:05:46,400 --> 00:05:49,160 Speaker 1: from getting into the league in America, and I think 114 00:05:49,240 --> 00:05:51,120 Speaker 1: that's important for Ellie to have around. So he kind 115 00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:54,120 Speaker 1: of feels like not only the production in the middle 116 00:05:54,120 --> 00:05:56,320 Speaker 1: of the lineup is important, that that's why they got him, 117 00:05:56,320 --> 00:05:59,520 Speaker 1: That's why Terry Francona stopped his car on the highway 118 00:05:59,520 --> 00:06:02,000 Speaker 1: out here Bob Casteledi and said he thanked him for 119 00:06:02,120 --> 00:06:04,599 Speaker 1: making that move. But you can see he's kind of 120 00:06:04,640 --> 00:06:08,719 Speaker 1: a magnet with his personality to the young Spanish speaking players, 121 00:06:08,760 --> 00:06:12,279 Speaker 1: and I think that's really important for both Noelvie Marte 122 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:13,400 Speaker 1: and Elie de la Cruz. 123 00:06:13,760 --> 00:06:16,120 Speaker 3: I've seen the interview with Ellie de la Cruz and 124 00:06:16,279 --> 00:06:18,280 Speaker 3: you just think of last year and how he played 125 00:06:18,279 --> 00:06:21,200 Speaker 3: in the second half and news coming out after that 126 00:06:21,320 --> 00:06:24,080 Speaker 3: of him not being one hundred percent, and then you 127 00:06:24,080 --> 00:06:26,480 Speaker 3: flash forward to the conversation that you mentioned that Terry 128 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:29,240 Speaker 3: Francona had about you know some of these young players 129 00:06:29,240 --> 00:06:32,760 Speaker 3: and now it's time to take that next step. How 130 00:06:32,960 --> 00:06:35,160 Speaker 3: how do you feel that translates with Elie de la Cruz. 131 00:06:35,200 --> 00:06:37,360 Speaker 3: Have you seen a difference have noticed a difference early 132 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:40,400 Speaker 3: on in Ellie de la Cruz compared to previous springs. 133 00:06:41,520 --> 00:06:43,240 Speaker 1: The first thing you notice when you get out here 134 00:06:43,240 --> 00:06:47,000 Speaker 1: with Ellie is he looks completely different in the upper 135 00:06:47,040 --> 00:06:49,760 Speaker 1: half of his body. And he told us yesterday he 136 00:06:49,800 --> 00:06:52,160 Speaker 1: went from two five to two seventeen, and I said, 137 00:06:52,200 --> 00:06:55,080 Speaker 1: all twelve pounds in your biceps. Because he looks that 138 00:06:55,320 --> 00:06:57,919 Speaker 1: different in his upper body. He said, what did you 139 00:06:57,960 --> 00:06:59,880 Speaker 1: eat everything you could? Did you lift everything? He could 140 00:06:59,880 --> 00:07:02,320 Speaker 1: have that I did everything I could to put on weight. 141 00:07:02,360 --> 00:07:04,840 Speaker 1: And the idea is that he felt like he wore 142 00:07:04,920 --> 00:07:07,640 Speaker 1: down a little bit as the year wore on, and 143 00:07:07,680 --> 00:07:11,120 Speaker 1: it's not just the quad injury that that really affected him. 144 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:13,640 Speaker 1: He thinks he needed to put on some strength, some 145 00:07:13,720 --> 00:07:16,520 Speaker 1: weight to last the whole season. Now, I said, one 146 00:07:16,640 --> 00:07:18,800 Speaker 1: sixty two. Last year, you played them all. Do you 147 00:07:18,800 --> 00:07:20,680 Speaker 1: think that was a mistake. He said, I don't think 148 00:07:20,720 --> 00:07:23,440 Speaker 1: it was a mistake. He said, if I'm healthy and available, 149 00:07:23,520 --> 00:07:26,920 Speaker 1: I should play every single day. Now, that's one thing 150 00:07:26,960 --> 00:07:29,320 Speaker 1: for him to say that. Obviously, the Reds are going 151 00:07:29,400 --> 00:07:31,360 Speaker 1: to take a different path this year and they're going 152 00:07:31,440 --> 00:07:33,240 Speaker 1: to find ways to rest him and not make him 153 00:07:33,240 --> 00:07:35,520 Speaker 1: play all one sixty two. But that's the mindset he 154 00:07:35,560 --> 00:07:37,800 Speaker 1: has every year we talked to him. He said, you know, 155 00:07:37,840 --> 00:07:40,280 Speaker 1: what's the number home run the stolen bases? And he 156 00:07:40,320 --> 00:07:42,680 Speaker 1: shakes his head. He's like, you know, I don't care 157 00:07:42,720 --> 00:07:46,000 Speaker 1: about those numbers. He again said one sixty two. And 158 00:07:47,080 --> 00:07:49,360 Speaker 1: I think the mindset for him is if I'm healthy 159 00:07:49,400 --> 00:07:52,680 Speaker 1: and I'm available to play every day, the numbers will 160 00:07:52,720 --> 00:07:54,640 Speaker 1: take care of himself. So I said, you don't care 161 00:07:55,160 --> 00:07:58,000 Speaker 1: about the stolen bases, the home runs, the All Star games? 162 00:07:58,000 --> 00:08:00,520 Speaker 1: He said, no, no, no, I care about the All Star dates. 163 00:08:01,120 --> 00:08:02,920 Speaker 1: So that still means a lot to Ellie de la 164 00:08:02,960 --> 00:08:05,720 Speaker 1: Cruz to be able to get that on his resume 165 00:08:05,800 --> 00:08:08,800 Speaker 1: now is a two time All Star. But certainly, even 166 00:08:08,840 --> 00:08:11,160 Speaker 1: talking to south Stewart yesterday, and I didn't know this 167 00:08:11,240 --> 00:08:13,960 Speaker 1: about Ellie, he said he goes out of his way 168 00:08:14,400 --> 00:08:17,880 Speaker 1: for anybody that's new to the team or a young 169 00:08:17,960 --> 00:08:22,800 Speaker 1: player to go up, introduce himself, be available to that player. 170 00:08:22,800 --> 00:08:25,600 Speaker 1: And I thought that was interesting that came unsolicited from 171 00:08:25,680 --> 00:08:28,360 Speaker 1: south Stewart yesterday saying that about Ellie. So maybe that's 172 00:08:28,360 --> 00:08:30,640 Speaker 1: part of the growth as well. But certainly the big 173 00:08:30,720 --> 00:08:33,480 Speaker 1: change for him is how he looks physically. I haven't 174 00:08:33,480 --> 00:08:36,079 Speaker 1: seen him wear a sleeve yet, not in the two 175 00:08:36,120 --> 00:08:38,199 Speaker 1: days I've been here. He's not wearing any sleeve, but 176 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:43,160 Speaker 1: everybody see the arms. He looks great. And outside of that, 177 00:08:43,240 --> 00:08:47,240 Speaker 1: it looks like the same Ellie, quiet but energetic, but 178 00:08:47,440 --> 00:08:50,640 Speaker 1: this year absolutely bigger and has more weight on to 179 00:08:50,640 --> 00:08:51,839 Speaker 1: try to get through a season. 180 00:08:51,760 --> 00:08:54,360 Speaker 2: A sleeveless definitely a move he learned from you. 181 00:08:54,520 --> 00:08:54,800 Speaker 1: Joe. 182 00:08:55,200 --> 00:08:59,120 Speaker 2: You mentioned earlier in our conversations that you knew the 183 00:08:59,160 --> 00:09:01,960 Speaker 2: Reds would be ready to compete when they invested in 184 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:04,840 Speaker 2: the bullpen. They did that this offseason. What have you 185 00:09:04,920 --> 00:09:07,800 Speaker 2: seen from any of those bullpen arms? Have you gotten 186 00:09:07,800 --> 00:09:09,800 Speaker 2: a chance to get a look at at him at all, 187 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:12,760 Speaker 2: and what's the buzz, what's the conversation around those new 188 00:09:12,760 --> 00:09:13,720 Speaker 2: additions in the bullpen. 189 00:09:14,960 --> 00:09:18,480 Speaker 1: I've seen Pierce Johnson and I've seen Caleb Ferguson. Pierce 190 00:09:18,520 --> 00:09:22,640 Speaker 1: Johnson was very impressive yesterday during live batting practice. I mean, 191 00:09:22,679 --> 00:09:25,240 Speaker 1: he faced the best of what the Reds have. He 192 00:09:25,320 --> 00:09:28,440 Speaker 1: faced noelvi Marte, he faced Eli de la Cruz, he 193 00:09:28,600 --> 00:09:32,640 Speaker 1: faced Spencer Steer and Noelvie got the best of them 194 00:09:32,679 --> 00:09:35,400 Speaker 1: after along a back solid single, but he struck out 195 00:09:35,520 --> 00:09:38,240 Speaker 1: La de la Cruz. He got Aohelio Suarez on a 196 00:09:38,240 --> 00:09:42,320 Speaker 1: week round or to shortstop. So his stuff plays and 197 00:09:42,360 --> 00:09:45,560 Speaker 1: plays really well so far here in spring training. Caleb 198 00:09:45,600 --> 00:09:48,560 Speaker 1: Ferguson looked good on the mound yesterday as well. I'll 199 00:09:48,559 --> 00:09:52,480 Speaker 1: have to say this, guys. The guy that's impressing everybody 200 00:09:52,520 --> 00:09:54,800 Speaker 1: in me the most, not only with his ability but 201 00:09:54,880 --> 00:09:59,440 Speaker 1: his demeanor is Chase Burns. And you talk about the 202 00:09:59,480 --> 00:10:03,160 Speaker 1: competition for the fifth spot, and certainly Brandon Williamson's in 203 00:10:03,200 --> 00:10:06,920 Speaker 1: the conversation Rhet Louder, Certainly in the conversation. If everybody's 204 00:10:06,960 --> 00:10:11,680 Speaker 1: healthy leaving spring training, there's no competition. It is Chase Burns. 205 00:10:12,040 --> 00:10:15,360 Speaker 1: He is his demeanor on the mound, of his presence 206 00:10:15,440 --> 00:10:19,040 Speaker 1: on the mound, how competitive he was yesterday pitching live 207 00:10:19,080 --> 00:10:22,440 Speaker 1: batting practice, you know, dropping f bombs under his breath, 208 00:10:22,600 --> 00:10:25,079 Speaker 1: yelling into his glove. I mean, it's the second day 209 00:10:25,120 --> 00:10:28,240 Speaker 1: of full team workouts and this guy's out there throwing 210 00:10:28,320 --> 00:10:31,120 Speaker 1: like it looks like in the playoffs game. So his 211 00:10:31,720 --> 00:10:35,400 Speaker 1: stuff we all know about, but his demeanor and competitive 212 00:10:35,480 --> 00:10:38,840 Speaker 1: fire out here at spring training looks different to me 213 00:10:38,960 --> 00:10:42,520 Speaker 1: from everybody else. That's a guy right now, I would 214 00:10:42,559 --> 00:10:46,319 Speaker 1: circle right and say he's got a big season coming 215 00:10:46,400 --> 00:10:49,679 Speaker 1: up if he stays healthy, because he just looks like 216 00:10:49,760 --> 00:10:52,840 Speaker 1: he's ready and it's only February, and he looks like 217 00:10:52,840 --> 00:10:55,160 Speaker 1: a guy that really really wants that job, and I 218 00:10:55,240 --> 00:10:57,280 Speaker 1: think it's going to be his as long as he's healthy. 219 00:10:57,520 --> 00:10:59,800 Speaker 2: Despite the optimism that a lot of us here in 220 00:10:59,800 --> 00:11:03,880 Speaker 2: Sinnatti Field joe the projections, whether it's Peakota or Fan 221 00:11:04,040 --> 00:11:07,640 Speaker 2: Grafts or the guy on ESPN saying that the pitching 222 00:11:07,640 --> 00:11:09,320 Speaker 2: staff is not going to be that good. They don't 223 00:11:09,360 --> 00:11:13,040 Speaker 2: really like the Reds for whatever reason. Is that something 224 00:11:13,040 --> 00:11:16,000 Speaker 2: that maybe is motivating to them, has that been talked 225 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:18,760 Speaker 2: about at all. And how do you or what do 226 00:11:18,840 --> 00:11:21,520 Speaker 2: you make of that? The projection's not really expecting much 227 00:11:21,520 --> 00:11:22,439 Speaker 2: from the Reds. 228 00:11:23,160 --> 00:11:25,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, no one's really talked about them, and I think 229 00:11:25,280 --> 00:11:27,679 Speaker 1: the projections are wrong. I've seen this team now, it's 230 00:11:27,720 --> 00:11:31,560 Speaker 1: spring training twelve or thirteen different times, and this is 231 00:11:31,559 --> 00:11:34,080 Speaker 1: a playoff team the way I see it, the way 232 00:11:34,080 --> 00:11:38,320 Speaker 1: it looks right now, with everybody in camp and everybody healthy, 233 00:11:38,360 --> 00:11:44,920 Speaker 1: they have the look from starting pitching, starting pitching, depth, bullpen, lineup, versatility. 234 00:11:45,720 --> 00:11:47,640 Speaker 1: You know, I don't know if it's a World Series team. 235 00:11:47,760 --> 00:11:49,440 Speaker 1: I mean they are in the same league again as 236 00:11:49,480 --> 00:11:52,720 Speaker 1: the LA Dodgers. I get that, But this looks like 237 00:11:52,760 --> 00:11:55,760 Speaker 1: a playoff team. This looks like a National League Central 238 00:11:55,880 --> 00:12:00,920 Speaker 1: contending team. This team looks better than last years. Terry Francona, 239 00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:02,640 Speaker 1: are you guys better than you were last year? He said, 240 00:12:02,640 --> 00:12:04,800 Speaker 1: we have to be we better be, and he pointed 241 00:12:04,880 --> 00:12:07,120 Speaker 1: right to the bullpen as the first thing. He didn't 242 00:12:07,120 --> 00:12:09,719 Speaker 1: talk about au Hennio Suarez. He didn't talk about the 243 00:12:10,200 --> 00:12:12,400 Speaker 1: young core of players that need to take another step, 244 00:12:12,440 --> 00:12:15,520 Speaker 1: the Matt McClain, the Ellie daylor Cruz and everybody else 245 00:12:15,520 --> 00:12:18,160 Speaker 1: that we always talk about. But he talked about the bullpen, 246 00:12:18,360 --> 00:12:20,520 Speaker 1: and he thought the bullpen was going to be a 247 00:12:20,520 --> 00:12:23,360 Speaker 1: difference maker for the team this year. And I'm with 248 00:12:23,480 --> 00:12:26,800 Speaker 1: them you mentioned it, I'll know the Reds are serious 249 00:12:26,800 --> 00:12:29,520 Speaker 1: about competing when they started investing in the bullpen. They 250 00:12:29,559 --> 00:12:32,120 Speaker 1: did that, and then they went above budget and brought 251 00:12:32,120 --> 00:12:35,880 Speaker 1: in difference makers like Ao Hennio Suarez. So, no matter 252 00:12:35,920 --> 00:12:39,920 Speaker 1: what people predict about this team, having eyeballs on this 253 00:12:40,000 --> 00:12:42,600 Speaker 1: team now for a couple of days and understanding what 254 00:12:42,640 --> 00:12:44,880 Speaker 1: they were last year and what the ceiling is for 255 00:12:44,960 --> 00:12:47,640 Speaker 1: some of those young players, and of course the new additions, 256 00:12:47,679 --> 00:12:50,520 Speaker 1: this looks like a playoff team and possibly a National 257 00:12:50,600 --> 00:12:51,640 Speaker 1: League Central winning team. 258 00:12:52,240 --> 00:12:53,040 Speaker 2: I have to ask. 259 00:12:53,320 --> 00:12:56,840 Speaker 3: We heard recently from Terry Francona talking about Sal Stewart. 260 00:12:57,160 --> 00:12:59,520 Speaker 3: He said he's one of the most advanced young hitters. 261 00:12:59,559 --> 00:13:02,560 Speaker 3: He's I know, you guys had a chance to catch 262 00:13:02,640 --> 00:13:04,400 Speaker 3: up with south Stuart, and I know Rookie of the 263 00:13:04,480 --> 00:13:06,600 Speaker 3: Year is a thing that is high on his list. 264 00:13:07,160 --> 00:13:10,839 Speaker 3: If south Stewart is in the running for Rookie of 265 00:13:10,880 --> 00:13:13,280 Speaker 3: the Year this year, what difference does that mean for 266 00:13:13,320 --> 00:13:15,560 Speaker 3: the the outlook of this Reds team? 267 00:13:15,559 --> 00:13:18,720 Speaker 1: In your opinion, Yeah, that goes back to the versatility, 268 00:13:18,720 --> 00:13:21,320 Speaker 1: because you know, we know he can hit. He wants 269 00:13:21,360 --> 00:13:24,800 Speaker 1: to prove he can play defense at first base at 270 00:13:24,840 --> 00:13:27,560 Speaker 1: an elite level and that frees up Spencer Steer to 271 00:13:27,600 --> 00:13:31,199 Speaker 1: play at the outfield, get some second base. He's obviously 272 00:13:31,480 --> 00:13:34,360 Speaker 1: a proven first baseman as well. But how about south 273 00:13:34,360 --> 00:13:38,800 Speaker 1: Stewart writing Roy on his bedroom door out here at Arizona, 274 00:13:39,200 --> 00:13:41,200 Speaker 1: so he sees it every night before he goes asleep, 275 00:13:41,240 --> 00:13:43,040 Speaker 1: and he sees it every morning when he wakes up 276 00:13:43,160 --> 00:13:45,400 Speaker 1: that he wants to win Rookie of the Year. I 277 00:13:45,440 --> 00:13:48,959 Speaker 1: think we forget the guy only played eighteen games in 278 00:13:49,200 --> 00:13:51,440 Speaker 1: the regular season last year and in the two playoff 279 00:13:51,480 --> 00:13:53,600 Speaker 1: games as well, so you know, he hasn't had a 280 00:13:53,600 --> 00:13:56,120 Speaker 1: lot of time in the big leagues. And he talked 281 00:13:56,160 --> 00:13:59,280 Speaker 1: today and yesterday about the idea of he doesn't have 282 00:13:59,360 --> 00:14:02,440 Speaker 1: to prove it to himself. He knows he can compete 283 00:14:02,440 --> 00:14:04,600 Speaker 1: at this level. He knows he can hit at this level. 284 00:14:04,640 --> 00:14:07,160 Speaker 1: He said he felt comfortable in the environment of the playoffs, 285 00:14:07,400 --> 00:14:09,760 Speaker 1: so he knows he can translate to that kind of moment. 286 00:14:09,800 --> 00:14:12,199 Speaker 1: But he said he has to prove to Terry Francona 287 00:14:12,600 --> 00:14:14,520 Speaker 1: that he has to prove to Terry Francona that he 288 00:14:14,520 --> 00:14:16,800 Speaker 1: can earn it. And the thing about him is he said, 289 00:14:16,800 --> 00:14:19,160 Speaker 1: when I got drafted, you know, I wanted to earn 290 00:14:19,280 --> 00:14:22,360 Speaker 1: everything I got. That was never the dream to get drafted, 291 00:14:22,440 --> 00:14:24,840 Speaker 1: never the dream to play in the big leagues. He said, 292 00:14:24,880 --> 00:14:26,720 Speaker 1: the dream was to play twenty years in the big 293 00:14:26,800 --> 00:14:28,880 Speaker 1: leagues and for people to wear my jersey and remember 294 00:14:28,880 --> 00:14:33,840 Speaker 1: me in Cincinnati. So South Stewart, if he has a 295 00:14:33,880 --> 00:14:36,080 Speaker 1: good season, and I think we all expect him to 296 00:14:36,080 --> 00:14:39,400 Speaker 1: have a good season offensively, he's gonna be a fan 297 00:14:39,520 --> 00:14:43,600 Speaker 1: favorite really soon. With the way he carries himself, the 298 00:14:43,640 --> 00:14:46,840 Speaker 1: way he talks about himself, and the way he talks 299 00:14:46,880 --> 00:14:49,680 Speaker 1: about the team. I put him as my number one 300 00:14:49,720 --> 00:14:52,640 Speaker 1: most favorite interview we've done out here so far. And 301 00:14:52,720 --> 00:14:58,400 Speaker 1: what a nickname, Salvert because a first baseman they can hit, 302 00:14:58,560 --> 00:15:00,800 Speaker 1: so they're calling him Salver. I mean, no pressure, Jet, 303 00:15:00,920 --> 00:15:04,040 Speaker 1: just go be Albert cool holes. But I love his attitude, 304 00:15:04,080 --> 00:15:08,240 Speaker 1: his demeanor, and his unselfish attitude when it comes to 305 00:15:08,600 --> 00:15:10,560 Speaker 1: doing whatever he needs to do to get on the 306 00:15:10,560 --> 00:15:12,560 Speaker 1: field and and prove he deserves to play. 307 00:15:13,360 --> 00:15:16,560 Speaker 3: There's also from a Major League baseball as a whole 308 00:15:16,560 --> 00:15:19,680 Speaker 3: standard there's a little uneasiness about news that came down today. 309 00:15:20,560 --> 00:15:23,560 Speaker 3: The executive director of the Major League Baseball Players Association, 310 00:15:23,680 --> 00:15:27,240 Speaker 3: Tony Clark, resigned this before he was set to do 311 00:15:27,320 --> 00:15:30,760 Speaker 3: a lot of meetings out in spring training. Of course, 312 00:15:30,800 --> 00:15:34,320 Speaker 3: there are labor disputes that are coming up. Has anyone 313 00:15:34,360 --> 00:15:37,320 Speaker 3: discussed this much around spring training and the news of 314 00:15:37,360 --> 00:15:38,640 Speaker 3: Tony Clark resigning today? 315 00:15:39,960 --> 00:15:41,800 Speaker 1: It was talked about this morning. 316 00:15:41,880 --> 00:15:42,080 Speaker 2: Now. 317 00:15:42,240 --> 00:15:45,440 Speaker 1: The redspr director came to the media as we got 318 00:15:45,480 --> 00:15:47,800 Speaker 1: started today and said, anybody who wants to ask any 319 00:15:47,880 --> 00:15:51,440 Speaker 1: questions to the players about Tony Clark, we would point 320 00:15:51,480 --> 00:15:54,680 Speaker 1: you towards Tyler Stevenson, who is the player rep. Now, 321 00:15:55,160 --> 00:15:57,440 Speaker 1: I don't know if Tyler's talked yet today or if 322 00:15:57,480 --> 00:15:59,200 Speaker 1: he did, and I wasn't part of it. I wasn't 323 00:15:59,200 --> 00:16:04,280 Speaker 1: around for it. I'm interested to hear what Tyler Stevenson 324 00:16:04,360 --> 00:16:07,560 Speaker 1: has to say about that. That was interesting. You know 325 00:16:07,600 --> 00:16:10,000 Speaker 1: what else is interesting too with Terry Francona was talking 326 00:16:10,040 --> 00:16:13,480 Speaker 1: today about the ABS system and the idea of challenging 327 00:16:13,520 --> 00:16:16,680 Speaker 1: and the Reds play their first spring training game on Saturday, 328 00:16:16,760 --> 00:16:20,240 Speaker 1: and he said, basically, right now in spring he's going 329 00:16:20,360 --> 00:16:23,920 Speaker 1: to give the pictures and the catchers free reign to challenge. 330 00:16:24,000 --> 00:16:26,840 Speaker 1: Just go out there. If you feel the call is wrong, 331 00:16:26,920 --> 00:16:29,560 Speaker 1: go ahead and challenge it. Not gonna let the pictures 332 00:16:29,560 --> 00:16:31,400 Speaker 1: do it. It's going to be a catchers and batters 333 00:16:31,640 --> 00:16:34,320 Speaker 1: thing only, and so they can get a better feel 334 00:16:34,360 --> 00:16:36,680 Speaker 1: for it and start to develop a strategy as they 335 00:16:36,680 --> 00:16:39,320 Speaker 1: get towards the regular season. The other thing he said 336 00:16:39,360 --> 00:16:42,720 Speaker 1: is he doesn't want guys to use the challenges selfishly. 337 00:16:42,840 --> 00:16:45,160 Speaker 1: So if a player's in the slump and they have 338 00:16:45,200 --> 00:16:47,400 Speaker 1: two strikes and the strike three is called, and its 339 00:16:47,400 --> 00:16:49,360 Speaker 1: border line of the guys like I just need to hit, 340 00:16:49,760 --> 00:16:51,360 Speaker 1: I need to get on base somehow, and I'm going 341 00:16:51,440 --> 00:16:53,080 Speaker 1: to burn the challenge. He doesn't want that. He said, 342 00:16:53,120 --> 00:16:56,320 Speaker 1: that can't be the way they use challenges. So that's 343 00:16:56,360 --> 00:17:00,360 Speaker 1: been discussed, but they're still developing a strategy that we'll 344 00:17:00,400 --> 00:17:04,560 Speaker 1: see that strategy not only here in Cincinnati, but across 345 00:17:04,560 --> 00:17:06,320 Speaker 1: the league. You made a great point, he said, everybody's 346 00:17:06,320 --> 00:17:08,120 Speaker 1: in the same boat, right You're trying to figure out 347 00:17:08,359 --> 00:17:10,840 Speaker 1: the best strategy to use this once the regular season 348 00:17:11,080 --> 00:17:11,560 Speaker 1: gets going. 349 00:17:12,840 --> 00:17:16,159 Speaker 3: Anything that folks should be on the lookout for as 350 00:17:16,600 --> 00:17:19,320 Speaker 3: Your Guys coverage at Fox nineteen continues to explode from 351 00:17:19,359 --> 00:17:19,960 Speaker 3: Spring Training. 352 00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:21,000 Speaker 2: Anything to keep an eye on. 353 00:17:22,240 --> 00:17:24,320 Speaker 1: Well, I hope you got planned tonight at eight o'clock 354 00:17:24,400 --> 00:17:26,560 Speaker 1: to join us as we are live on all of 355 00:17:26,640 --> 00:17:31,600 Speaker 1: Fox nineteen Now's streaming platforms as Cincinnati Sports Show goes 356 00:17:32,080 --> 00:17:35,000 Speaker 1: live from Red Spring Training for a second straight night. 357 00:17:35,000 --> 00:17:37,640 Speaker 1: If you didn't see it last night, just check out 358 00:17:37,640 --> 00:17:40,159 Speaker 1: my social media. I posted links there. We archived it 359 00:17:40,200 --> 00:17:43,520 Speaker 1: and you can watch it that way. It's basically Jeremy 360 00:17:43,520 --> 00:17:47,480 Speaker 1: and I's podcast talking about everything we saw that day, 361 00:17:47,520 --> 00:17:50,160 Speaker 1: all the interviews we did. We share our best interviews 362 00:17:50,480 --> 00:17:52,560 Speaker 1: from the day. It's a nice twenty to thirty minute show. 363 00:17:52,560 --> 00:17:55,119 Speaker 1: So we'll be doing that again tonight and plus all 364 00:17:55,160 --> 00:17:57,879 Speaker 1: over Fox nineteen Now on all of our newscasts throughout 365 00:17:57,920 --> 00:18:01,280 Speaker 1: the day. The Big Day stun is idly out out here. 366 00:18:01,840 --> 00:18:05,119 Speaker 1: The ground is absolutely soaked because we had a monsoon 367 00:18:05,200 --> 00:18:09,120 Speaker 1: last night overnight. Currently I'm outside of the indoor cages 368 00:18:09,200 --> 00:18:12,080 Speaker 1: where the batters are inside, getting some hacks. And then 369 00:18:12,119 --> 00:18:16,000 Speaker 1: we've got Hunter Green throwing live BP in just minutes 370 00:18:16,040 --> 00:18:16,880 Speaker 1: here in Arizona. 371 00:18:17,200 --> 00:18:19,200 Speaker 2: Do we know who Hunter is going to be facing? 372 00:18:19,240 --> 00:18:20,440 Speaker 2: Has that been revealed yet? 373 00:18:21,560 --> 00:18:23,680 Speaker 1: It is? If you can hang on, Oh, I'm gonna 374 00:18:23,720 --> 00:18:27,560 Speaker 1: put you over still hear me? Okay, have it written 375 00:18:27,600 --> 00:18:29,320 Speaker 1: down on my phone. Here we go. Let's see who 376 00:18:29,520 --> 00:18:33,760 Speaker 1: Hunter is battling inside Live VP today. So it's gonna 377 00:18:33,760 --> 00:18:40,320 Speaker 1: be Hunter Green and Brandon Williamson, uh not not the 378 00:18:40,359 --> 00:18:47,280 Speaker 1: headlining group JJ Blada Blake done, Nathaniel Lowe, Dane Myers 379 00:18:47,720 --> 00:18:55,119 Speaker 1: and Salbert. Get your popcorn ready for South Stewart against 380 00:18:55,200 --> 00:18:55,720 Speaker 1: Hunter Green. 381 00:18:56,160 --> 00:18:58,440 Speaker 2: Speaking of popcorn, I want to leave you with this, Joe. 382 00:18:58,440 --> 00:19:01,000 Speaker 2: You you mentioned when you first joined, just what Charlie 383 00:19:01,040 --> 00:19:03,080 Speaker 2: was having for lunch? What are you having for lunch? 384 00:19:05,400 --> 00:19:09,280 Speaker 1: I literally do not eat at Red Spring Training. I 385 00:19:09,320 --> 00:19:11,439 Speaker 1: will wake up in the morning. I will when I 386 00:19:11,480 --> 00:19:13,520 Speaker 1: get to the complex. I'll have some kind of a 387 00:19:13,520 --> 00:19:17,000 Speaker 1: protein bar that I packed before I left home, and 388 00:19:17,240 --> 00:19:21,280 Speaker 1: I will not eat until probably nine o'clock eastern tonight. 389 00:19:21,680 --> 00:19:24,440 Speaker 1: You know, Maurice Cloak once told me something about eating guys. 390 00:19:24,560 --> 00:19:27,800 Speaker 1: I had an interview with Maurice Courag We were making 391 00:19:28,040 --> 00:19:31,240 Speaker 1: small talk after the fact, and about about eating dinner 392 00:19:31,320 --> 00:19:35,160 Speaker 1: or whatever. He said, I always equate eating with relaxing, 393 00:19:35,680 --> 00:19:38,480 Speaker 1: and I'm the same way. I don't want to relax 394 00:19:38,480 --> 00:19:41,880 Speaker 1: here at Red Spring Training until the work is done, 395 00:19:42,200 --> 00:19:45,480 Speaker 1: and I won't eat until I can relax, and I 396 00:19:45,480 --> 00:19:48,000 Speaker 1: can't relax until I'm done, so I will wait until 397 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:51,760 Speaker 1: all the work is done. Today, after our live streaming show, 398 00:19:51,920 --> 00:19:55,080 Speaker 1: Jeremy and I will get some Mexican food. Did you 399 00:19:55,119 --> 00:19:58,600 Speaker 1: guys know our airbnb has a hot tough no. 400 00:19:59,720 --> 00:20:01,400 Speaker 2: Man out about that hot time time. 401 00:20:01,400 --> 00:20:04,399 Speaker 1: I'm going to send you, guys a picture tonight of 402 00:20:04,560 --> 00:20:08,920 Speaker 1: Jeremy Row in the hot tub with a cigar. Yeah, 403 00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:13,800 Speaker 1: happened last night. Yes, hot tub, cigar and a cores 404 00:20:13,880 --> 00:20:16,359 Speaker 1: light for Jeremy Row and night. 405 00:20:16,560 --> 00:20:17,240 Speaker 3: You should have a Martin. 406 00:20:18,119 --> 00:20:20,040 Speaker 2: How can you, guys? I mean, is there a way 407 00:20:20,080 --> 00:20:21,720 Speaker 2: to do the show from. 408 00:20:21,640 --> 00:20:27,119 Speaker 1: The oh my live stream from the hot tub? Yes, phenomenal, Absolutely, 409 00:20:27,160 --> 00:20:29,440 Speaker 1: we can't don't know where you put the microphones, but yeah, 410 00:20:29,440 --> 00:20:29,959 Speaker 1: we can do it. 411 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:32,320 Speaker 2: Okay, all right, work on that one. We'll be waiting 412 00:20:32,359 --> 00:20:33,000 Speaker 2: for the picture. 413 00:20:33,040 --> 00:20:36,440 Speaker 3: And before you left, speaking of uh of content, you've 414 00:20:36,640 --> 00:20:39,040 Speaker 3: spent a little portion of your evening at Reading High 415 00:20:39,040 --> 00:20:41,080 Speaker 3: School as well on Friday night before heading out, what's 416 00:20:41,080 --> 00:20:42,840 Speaker 3: your what's your biggest takeaway from the high school? 417 00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:46,600 Speaker 1: That I have no idea what a chuck. 418 00:20:46,400 --> 00:20:48,720 Speaker 3: A duck is, and yet you didn't stay for it. 419 00:20:50,280 --> 00:20:52,240 Speaker 1: The guy said, bless his herd. You said you're going 420 00:20:52,280 --> 00:20:53,560 Speaker 1: to miss the chuck a duck. I said, I'm going 421 00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:57,040 Speaker 1: to miss the GCL championship if I don't leave. You said, oh, 422 00:20:57,040 --> 00:20:59,160 Speaker 1: you're going to Buller and State Act. Yes, I'm going 423 00:20:59,160 --> 00:21:01,359 Speaker 1: to Buller and State Act. I have to go. What 424 00:21:01,520 --> 00:21:02,360 Speaker 1: is it? Chuck a duck? 425 00:21:03,040 --> 00:21:06,320 Speaker 3: From my understanding, they take a bunch of ducks. You 426 00:21:06,440 --> 00:21:08,959 Speaker 3: buy ducks throughout the course of the half, and then 427 00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:10,720 Speaker 3: at halftime you throw it at a target in the 428 00:21:10,720 --> 00:21:14,800 Speaker 3: middle of the floor, and closest to the middle wins 429 00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:15,400 Speaker 3: a prize. 430 00:21:15,880 --> 00:21:19,359 Speaker 1: Chuck a duck, Chuck a duck. 431 00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:20,000 Speaker 3: Figure it. 432 00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:24,919 Speaker 1: You're a quarterback. You went to reading, you better win that. 433 00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:26,400 Speaker 1: So I'm taking you with my ringer. 434 00:21:27,560 --> 00:21:28,200 Speaker 2: He can't throw. 435 00:21:28,640 --> 00:21:29,440 Speaker 3: Usually done. 436 00:21:29,560 --> 00:21:30,440 Speaker 2: Thank you, damn. 437 00:21:32,040 --> 00:21:36,640 Speaker 3: By guy, he said, byeat. 438 00:21:37,840 --> 00:21:41,040 Speaker 2: Talkbacks come next. It's a shame they're not having any 439 00:21:41,080 --> 00:21:41,640 Speaker 2: fun out there. 440 00:21:41,720 --> 00:21:46,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, man, I would, I'd stream the talk the hot 441 00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:47,080 Speaker 3: tub conversations. 442 00:21:47,119 --> 00:21:48,919 Speaker 2: It's funny. I can't wait for him to send us 443 00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:51,720 Speaker 2: that picture because I have a similar picture that I'll 444 00:21:51,800 --> 00:21:53,040 Speaker 2: send right back to him. 445 00:21:53,119 --> 00:21:58,640 Speaker 3: Man of me hot tub talk dam in real hot. 446 00:21:58,480 --> 00:22:01,800 Speaker 2: Tub time machine throw Chuck Goldsmith in there, although he's 447 00:22:01,800 --> 00:22:02,840 Speaker 2: probably in bed, but. 448 00:22:03,240 --> 00:22:08,560 Speaker 3: Charlie's at the facility while they're doing that. We will 449 00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:12,280 Speaker 3: be back with your talkbacks on ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati 450 00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:12,840 Speaker 3: Sports Station. 451 00:22:13,480 --> 00:22:14,119 Speaker 2: Hey Google,