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Speaker 1: when they were seven. I want my state back and

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Speaker 1: not these wackos that we have out there. Thank you.

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Speaker 2: Did I say there were wackos out there? There are

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Speaker 3: I know, I know, but and I and I agree wholeheartedly,

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Speaker 3: or running to be the chair of the Carilal Republican Party,

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Speaker 3: I would suggest you go listen to yesterday's podcast. Just

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Speaker 3: you know, I think someone in the text line said

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Speaker 3: something to the effect like this, that we need to

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Speaker 3: reverse engineer what Striker Gil and Polis put in the

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Speaker 3: blueprint back in four or whatever it was to turn

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Speaker 3: I thought, no, you don't need to reverse engineer it.

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Speaker 3: You need to read it, study it and follow it.

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Speaker 3: It's just that our principles are different, our politics are different.

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Speaker 3: But the mechanism and the system by which they accomplished

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Speaker 3: what they did is what we should be doing. But

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Speaker 3: we're too busy fighting over you know, stupid stuff, shooting

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Speaker 3: a circle you know what. And it's just it's it's

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Speaker 3: utterly absurd. But anyway, speaking of absurd to see with

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Speaker 3: as as I told you, Yeah, maybe I haven't told

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Speaker 2: There are a few.

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Speaker 3: Podcasts that I listened to, but none of them are

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Speaker 2: Well, Saturday night or Sunday night.

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Speaker 3: I said, I don't even know which night it is,

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Speaker 3: there's Mark Levin, and I might hear five minutes of.

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Speaker 2: Them, and that's it. And there's a reason for that. One.

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Speaker 3: I don't really care what anybody else says. Just being

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Speaker 3: I don't want to be influenced by what anybody else says.

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Speaker 3: which everybody has about what's going on. I say all

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Speaker 3: Ross's reference something that and I guess, Ragan, you can

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Speaker 3: confirm this. But you guys must have interviewed Mike Johnston

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Speaker 3: I didn't hear any of that. But I want to

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's just about if you go to the grocery

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Speaker 3: in doing so, the Mayor has accomplished something genuinely remarkable.

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Speaker 3: If I'd been talking to him today, I would have said,

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Speaker 3: I am. Unfortunately, because of where I work, I do

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Speaker 3: pay a no nomenal amount, but nonetheless I do pay

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Speaker 3: And it requires it mandates that the Denver police officers

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Speaker 3: See what our protester is doing, then I assume that

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Speaker 3: police chief, Ron Thomas acknowledged that this could lead to

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Speaker 2: Now, the Department of.

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Speaker 2: I don't think it's a hard call.

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Speaker 3: Here's the fundamental legal problem that no amount of inspirational rhetoric,

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Speaker 3: Now think about what he's actually asking a Denver cop

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Speaker 2: What do you do?

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Speaker 3: Your mayor says, detain the federal officer. Federal law says

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Speaker 3: Call this responsible governance, and the mayor calls it not provocation.

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Speaker 2: We never heard of that.

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Speaker 3: When the group of congressmen got together and told those

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Speaker 2: Huh?

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Speaker 3: Are we supposed to arrest the protester because they just

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Speaker 3: This mayor is some kind of stupid, but this is

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Speaker 2: I'm thinking, Michael T might be Michael thor Brown.

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Speaker 4: What you don't get the reference or you're just pissed

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Speaker 3: Somebody you know, it's twenty four hours later and somebody's

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Speaker 4: That you said life on the air in front of

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Speaker 4: You may only have twelve, but none of them forget.

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Speaker 4: And Trekker, Yeah, it's just dragging at iHeartMedia dot Com.

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Speaker 4: I'm very afraid now, but Dragon at iHeartMedia dot Com.

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Speaker 3: We'll probably well, in fact, I know I'll have to

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Speaker 3: carry this over into the end of the next hour.

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Speaker 3: But I want to tell you a story about how

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Speaker 3: to kill the goose that laid the golden egg Colorado style.

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Speaker 3: As I mentioned, I think last week when I first

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Speaker 3: brought this up, Pallunteer Technologies, which is colored which excuse me,

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Speaker 3: which is which was Colorado's largest publicly traded company, valued

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Speaker 3: it over three hundred billion dollars, quietly announced he was

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Speaker 3: going to pack up his headquarters and they were going

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Speaker 3: to Florida.

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Speaker 2: They're going to Miami. No phone call to.

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Speaker 3: The governor, which apparently really pissed off the governor. No

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Speaker 3: heads up to the mayor. He was too busy writing

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Speaker 3: executive orders to tell ice of what they came and

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Speaker 3: cannot do. They just Pallunteered, just put a brief post

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Speaker 3: on social media and then left the forwarding address at

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Speaker 3: the post office.

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Speaker 2: If that doesn't steam, let me put it in a way.

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Speaker 3: Denver Mayor Mike Johnson's own spokes him and admitted that

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Speaker 3: they didn't even get advanced notice. The company that put

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Speaker 3: Colorado on the artificial intelligence map just ghosted us. And

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Speaker 3: last night I ran across the Common Sense Instace. I

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Speaker 3: didn't run across the Common Sense Institute. I've known about

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Speaker 3: him for a long time, but I ran across the

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Speaker 3: Common Sense Institute's analysis of what this means for Colorado.

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Speaker 3: I love the name Common Sense Institute because that's precisely

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Speaker 3: what they are, and they have put real numbers to

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Speaker 3: what the departure actually is going to cost us.

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Speaker 2: So you got to buckle up.

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Speaker 3: If Valunteer moves only ninety of its workers out of state,

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Speaker 3: we lose about one hundred and seventy eight million dollars

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Speaker 3: a year in economic output. One hundred and seventy eight

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Speaker 3: million dollars gone annually. Now it's the picture plays out.

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Speaker 3: And remember the governor says they are about five hundred

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Speaker 3: pound tier employees here. That's those are his words, we're

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Speaker 3: looking at five hundred and forty four jobs eliminated. They

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Speaker 3: estimate that one hundred and six million dollars a year

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Speaker 3: in GDP and one hundred and seven million dollars a

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Speaker 3: year in income. That is like a campfire and a

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Speaker 3: wildfire evacuation order. Now that one hundred and six million

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Speaker 3: or one hundred and seven million dollars a year in income,

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Speaker 3: I want you to think about because today for many

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Speaker 3: people is payday, and so those income taxes gone, That

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Speaker 3: one hundred and seven million dollars that some of the

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Speaker 3: wish would have been spent on groceries, buying cars, going

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Speaker 3: to my sponsors, you know, churning that money through the

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Speaker 3: economy and creating even more economic growth in this state,

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Speaker 3: gone completely gone.

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Speaker 2: We often forget.

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Speaker 3: We just hear, you know, we hear one hundred seven

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Speaker 3: million dollars a year, a year in income gone, and

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Speaker 3: we don't really think about what that means. It means

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Speaker 3: that that's money that you know, after taxes and everything else,

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Speaker 3: but those taxes are now gone. That's money that they

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Speaker 3: would spend in the private sector. They might hire somebody

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Speaker 3: to mow their yard, they might hire somebody to come

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Speaker 3: in and paint their house. They might hire you know,

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Speaker 3: discount bath to come in and remodel their bathrooms. They

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Speaker 3: might you know, there might be a few guys that

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Speaker 3: work out they need to go to Rocky Mountain Men's Clinic.

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Speaker 3: They won't spend that money here, They'll spend that money

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Speaker 3: in Florida. But here's what really should keep our elected officials,

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Speaker 3: particular state legislators down at the pulp Bureau, those yahoos,

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Speaker 3: this is what I keep them up at night, and

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Speaker 3: trusting me, most of them sleep just fine, which is

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Speaker 3: part of the problem, although I wish they'd sleep, you know,

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Speaker 3: just sleep twenty four hours a day. The Common Sense

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Speaker 3: Institute warns that the real danger isn't even the Pellanteer number.

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Speaker 3: It's the reputation number. Colorado spent fifteen years carefully cultivating.

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Speaker 3: It's national identity.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 3: They talk to us all the time about how we're

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Speaker 3: tech friendly, we're a business forward state. The governor says, well,

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Speaker 3: volunteer's departure and specifically why they're departing torches that reputation,

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Speaker 3: literally torches that reputation. So then the question becomes, well,

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Speaker 3: why did they lead? They told us, They told us

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Speaker 3: in black and white in a federally required SEC filing.

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Speaker 3: Volunteer compared Colorad's new AI law to the EU's Artificial

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Speaker 3: Intelligence Act, and it wasn't a compliment. They said compliance

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Speaker 3: would be quote difficult, onerous, and costly. That's not spend.

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Speaker 3: That's a company with four point five billion dollars in

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Speaker 3: annual revenue fifteen billion dollars in government contracts telling Colorido,

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Speaker 3: legis Landers and the Governor in the most polite corporate

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Speaker 3: language possible, you made it too hard to do business

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Speaker 3: here

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Speaker 2: The long question Next