WEBVTT - 10-21-25 The Nightcap with Gary Jeff Walker 0:00:01.760 --> 0:00:07.480 Really really need some breaking news music, although this isn't 0:00:07.520 --> 0:00:13.000 breaking news. It's the nightcap on seven hundred WLWS. Johnny's 0:00:13.000 --> 0:00:16.000 theme will just have to do. I guess how you doing, 0:00:16.040 --> 0:00:19.800 Gary Jeff Well. Day twenty one is over and done, 0:00:21.000 --> 0:00:27.320 and we continue the federal government shutdown. They're not spending 0:00:27.360 --> 0:00:32.320 any of our money right now. That's kind of cool. 0:00:32.960 --> 0:00:36.440 They're not spending our money right now. I mean maybe 0:00:36.600 --> 0:00:41.720 stuff we want them to spend it on, especially people 0:00:41.760 --> 0:00:44.800 who work for a living, who have families to support, 0:00:44.840 --> 0:00:46.720 who are not getting a paycheck right now in this 0:00:46.880 --> 0:00:50.559 partial government shutdown, and of course the brave men and 0:00:50.600 --> 0:00:54.760 women of our military who are going to be missing 0:00:54.800 --> 0:00:57.760 paychecks right and left here if they don't get their 0:00:57.800 --> 0:01:02.880 act together. Political theater is the only reason they're not 0:01:02.920 --> 0:01:07.759 spending any of our money is Remember, the government doesn't 0:01:07.800 --> 0:01:11.080 have a wall of money somewhere in Washington, DC that 0:01:11.160 --> 0:01:14.160 they just pluck a stack of bills from. It all 0:01:14.200 --> 0:01:20.679 comes out of you, me, anyone that pays taxes. And 0:01:20.800 --> 0:01:25.440 believe me, even if you're not paying income tax, you're 0:01:25.440 --> 0:01:30.080 paying some kind of tax on something somewhere. All the 0:01:30.080 --> 0:01:35.080 fines and fees and everything at sales tax when you 0:01:35.160 --> 0:01:39.959 buy something, the money comes from us, and the people 0:01:40.000 --> 0:01:46.760 in Washington are supposed to represent us, but instead to 0:01:46.840 --> 0:01:51.640 try and get political cover so somebody like Chuck Schumer 0:01:52.280 --> 0:01:56.440 doesn't get primaried by AOC and lose his power in 0:01:56.480 --> 0:02:02.000 the Senate because of stuff like that. They disrupt other 0:02:02.000 --> 0:02:05.520 people's lives, and of course it really doesn't affect them 0:02:06.040 --> 0:02:10.480 unless we the people who give them our money to 0:02:10.560 --> 0:02:16.400 do things for us, unless we the people stand up 0:02:16.919 --> 0:02:22.799 and realize who the culprits are and the people who 0:02:22.840 --> 0:02:29.280 are blocking the road. I mean, there's an element of this. 0:02:29.880 --> 0:02:32.480 I'm not missing a paycheck because the federal government is 0:02:32.480 --> 0:02:36.320 shut down. You may not be either, but somebody is, 0:02:37.480 --> 0:02:40.560 and that can cause real hardship, at least for a 0:02:40.720 --> 0:02:44.040 short period of time. It's getting to be a longer 0:02:44.080 --> 0:02:48.840 and longer period of time. Senator might not senator, but 0:02:50.280 --> 0:02:53.079 Speaker of the House Mike Johnson every day comes out 0:02:53.120 --> 0:02:56.800 in details how it is hurting all of us US 0:02:56.840 --> 0:03:03.480 citizens that they're not spending our money and highlights the 0:03:03.520 --> 0:03:08.200 states that are dominated by Democrat senators who won't get 0:03:08.280 --> 0:03:11.560 up off their haunches and vote to keep the government open. Well, 0:03:11.639 --> 0:03:13.800 they can negotiate all the rest the end of the 0:03:13.840 --> 0:03:18.760 Obamacare subsidies and everything else that is not decided yet. 0:03:20.360 --> 0:03:24.680 But you need to remember Democrats put a sunset on 0:03:24.800 --> 0:03:28.720 Obamacare subsidies. They run out at the end of December. 0:03:30.720 --> 0:03:32.880 So if they're you know, waving their hands in the 0:03:32.919 --> 0:03:36.080 air with their heads on fire, saying, real people are 0:03:36.120 --> 0:03:41.720 going to lose their healthcare because Republicans won't renegotiate to 0:03:41.840 --> 0:03:47.760 keep the government open. It's literal male bovine fecal samples. 0:03:48.160 --> 0:03:52.760 And you know what that amounts to. It's October as 0:03:52.800 --> 0:03:56.880 we continue to be mired in the government shut down 0:03:56.880 --> 0:03:59.520 where they're not spending any of our money that we've 0:03:59.560 --> 0:04:02.800 given them, sometimes foolishly, in fact, I think most of 0:04:02.840 --> 0:04:07.400 the time foolishly. It's also Breast Cancer Awareness Month, and 0:04:07.520 --> 0:04:10.360 up next I would like to feature my wife, Chris 0:04:10.400 --> 0:04:13.280 to two point zero, who is a breast cancer survivor 0:04:14.320 --> 0:04:18.000 going on three years now. We will talk about that 0:04:19.200 --> 0:04:23.279 and her upcoming baptism, which is going to happen this 0:04:23.360 --> 0:04:24.120 coming Sunday. 0:04:25.400 --> 0:04:27.640 Right after this it's the Nightcap. 0:04:27.839 --> 0:04:31.479 The government's still shut down, they're not spending any of 0:04:31.520 --> 0:04:35.280 our money right now, maybe they'd give it back to us, 0:04:35.320 --> 0:04:41.200 what do you think seven HUNDREDLW. As I mentioned at 0:04:41.200 --> 0:04:44.880 the top of the show, October being breast cancer awareness 0:04:44.920 --> 0:04:46.760 month of all, and I think we should always be 0:04:46.839 --> 0:04:50.240 aware of cancer and the things that we need to 0:04:50.279 --> 0:04:54.360 do to keep ourselves safe from it, or at least 0:04:54.480 --> 0:04:56.920 let us know if there's a problem. And I think 0:04:56.960 --> 0:05:00.160 we always ought to be aware of breasts as men especially, 0:05:01.320 --> 0:05:05.320 And I am especially aware of my wife's breasts, and 0:05:05.400 --> 0:05:10.000 I'm certainly acutely aware of the struggle that we went together, 0:05:10.240 --> 0:05:12.920 threw together as a couple, that she went through when 0:05:12.920 --> 0:05:17.280 she was diagnosed with breast cancer. And to talk about 0:05:17.320 --> 0:05:20.320 that and to encourage other people to get their selves checked. 0:05:20.440 --> 0:05:22.840 You've got a mammogram coming up on Friday, I know, 0:05:25.839 --> 0:05:29.039 and I just think it's important to get the message 0:05:29.080 --> 0:05:32.760 out there, and from a personal standpoint, the people who 0:05:32.839 --> 0:05:36.039 have walked that path, I think it's important we bring 0:05:36.080 --> 0:05:38.240 in my wife, Chris to two point zero into the 0:05:38.320 --> 0:05:42.080 nightcab to talk about your journey. 0:05:42.560 --> 0:05:46.800 Hi, babe, ed, good evening, Good evening. It's great to 0:05:46.800 --> 0:05:47.440 have you with us. 0:05:48.160 --> 0:05:51.200 You know, it's almost as good as being home with 0:05:51.279 --> 0:05:55.120 you talking to you on the phone. Almost so let's 0:05:55.240 --> 0:05:58.400 let's go back to the beginning. How did you find 0:05:58.440 --> 0:05:59.799 out that you had breast? 0:05:59.800 --> 0:06:06.080 Can answer, well, I finally went from my first Mammograham 0:06:06.120 --> 0:06:11.000 after a few years of pushing by my doctor, and 0:06:12.040 --> 0:06:15.920 they found it. They found the lump in my right breast. 0:06:17.279 --> 0:06:23.440 Okay, Oh, and I remember well that weekend when they 0:06:23.480 --> 0:06:26.520 told you they had found this tumor in your right breast, 0:06:27.760 --> 0:06:30.440 and you were devastated, as many people are when they 0:06:30.480 --> 0:06:36.000 get this news. Yeah, almost almost despondent. And it took 0:06:36.120 --> 0:06:39.840 you exactly two days to figure out that you were 0:06:39.880 --> 0:06:43.080 going to fight this and beat it. I remember just 0:06:43.160 --> 0:06:46.080 it was almost like an overnight transition where you just 0:06:47.480 --> 0:06:50.680 what was what was the thing that made you realize 0:06:50.920 --> 0:06:55.040 that cancer wasn't going to defeat you in that short 0:06:55.040 --> 0:06:55.720 amount of time. 0:06:57.160 --> 0:07:00.240 Well, one with God and two I'm very subthern. 0:07:00.720 --> 0:07:07.360 Yes you are indeed, So we go and and you 0:07:07.760 --> 0:07:09.360 went to the consultation. 0:07:11.560 --> 0:07:12.320 Yes, what was it? 0:07:12.440 --> 0:07:17.080 What was the next step after you you went for 0:07:17.160 --> 0:07:20.560 further examination and a scan and all of that. 0:07:20.960 --> 0:07:21.600 What happened? 0:07:22.480 --> 0:07:26.280 Yes, then we went to this wonderful surgeon. 0:07:27.760 --> 0:07:27.800 J. 0:07:28.000 --> 0:07:34.120 Michael Gunther and Edgewood, Saint Elizabeth, and he was the 0:07:34.200 --> 0:07:37.960 absolute best that was still when we wear a mask. 0:07:39.040 --> 0:07:42.040 We got back and he said do you like these things? 0:07:42.120 --> 0:07:44.200 And we said no. He said, good take them off. 0:07:44.800 --> 0:07:46.560 Oh yeah, that you know what for me? 0:07:46.760 --> 0:07:49.080 And I was there with you when when you were 0:07:49.120 --> 0:07:52.200 seeing the actual scan and he was showing you where 0:07:52.240 --> 0:07:55.920 the tumor was, us where the tumor was, and like 0:07:56.000 --> 0:07:58.160 you said, we're married and we're in the mask and 0:07:58.200 --> 0:08:00.720 the doctor closes the door with the nurse in there 0:08:00.760 --> 0:08:03.920 with us, and he says, do you guys really like 0:08:04.000 --> 0:08:07.040 wearing these things? And we go no, because we are 0:08:07.160 --> 0:08:11.120 vehemently against all the COVID mandates that were still in 0:08:11.200 --> 0:08:15.600 place at the time. So that was that was twenty 0:08:15.640 --> 0:08:20.520 two or twenty one, twenty two, Fall of twenty two, 0:08:22.360 --> 0:08:24.560 and I think I think you found out you had 0:08:24.600 --> 0:08:26.280 breast cancer during October. 0:08:26.400 --> 0:08:31.160 Wasn't it October or just it was late September? Yeah, 0:08:31.200 --> 0:08:35.480 I saw him October and I had my surgery in October. 0:08:35.400 --> 0:08:40.360 Right, So anyway, he just to kind of move the 0:08:40.400 --> 0:08:44.200 story along. We get the masks off and he's showing 0:08:44.360 --> 0:08:47.600 us and you the tumor that they're going to remove, 0:08:47.679 --> 0:08:49.600 what they plan to do about it. And he said, 0:08:50.360 --> 0:08:52.120 remember what he said about the tumor. 0:08:53.520 --> 0:08:59.600 He said it was a wimpy to tumor. He said, yeah, 0:09:00.080 --> 0:09:01.480 it went be timors. 0:09:02.880 --> 0:09:03.400 Oh. 0:09:03.640 --> 0:09:05.760 We both kind of looked at We both kind of 0:09:05.760 --> 0:09:08.480 looked at each other and looked at him and go, okay, 0:09:08.520 --> 0:09:11.600 this is this is quite possibly the best news we've 0:09:11.640 --> 0:09:19.200 heard all day. And uh so then uh they made plans. 0:09:19.520 --> 0:09:24.120 This was a consultation before the surgery, and the surgery. 0:09:23.760 --> 0:09:28.240 Happened, and two weeks later I had my surgery yep, 0:09:29.360 --> 0:09:34.760 and I remember and go ahead and it went fine. 0:09:34.960 --> 0:09:40.480 It not there was some pain in the all later on, 0:09:40.640 --> 0:09:44.079 but yeah, it went perfectly. 0:09:45.000 --> 0:09:48.440 Yeah, we were we were very very lucky, praise God 0:09:48.520 --> 0:09:53.720 the way that all turned out. So they also took 0:09:54.720 --> 0:09:58.160 an adjoining lymph node out where they had taken the 0:09:58.160 --> 0:10:01.000 the one point five centimeter tumor out of your right 0:10:01.040 --> 0:10:05.360 breast when that isn't in that about how big it was? Yes, 0:10:05.679 --> 0:10:08.640 all right, So they took the adjoining lymph node because 0:10:08.640 --> 0:10:11.160 they always do that to make sure the cancer hasn't 0:10:11.160 --> 0:10:16.240 spread and correct and it was it was not cancer 0:10:16.679 --> 0:10:21.320 the lymph node, right, but it did some damage to 0:10:21.400 --> 0:10:24.680 your lymphatic system as far as drained there was a 0:10:24.679 --> 0:10:29.280 lot of swelling, and uh, it was very uncomfortable for you. 0:10:29.440 --> 0:10:31.160 Describe that if you can or. 0:10:31.120 --> 0:10:35.680 Will well, it was swelling. It was full of fluid 0:10:35.840 --> 0:10:43.560 and blood and would leak on occasion and badly leak. 0:10:45.000 --> 0:10:49.360 And then it settled down and I started radiation. 0:10:51.760 --> 0:10:55.840 Yeah, this is Christie. I think this is how you 0:10:55.880 --> 0:10:59.360 were lucky. We were lucky too. Is that you didn't 0:10:59.400 --> 0:11:02.480 have to have poison injected into your body, I mean 0:11:02.720 --> 0:11:05.079 outside the radiation, but you didn't have to have any 0:11:05.160 --> 0:11:10.720 chemotherapy with your after treatment. And that right usually accompanies 0:11:10.840 --> 0:11:12.319 something like what you went. 0:11:12.160 --> 0:11:17.040 Through well, like he said, it was a wimpy tumor. 0:11:17.120 --> 0:11:23.720 So yeah, so got it all and uh then the 0:11:23.840 --> 0:11:29.280 radiation was just I mean, boy, that that does it toll? 0:11:29.400 --> 0:11:33.160 Tell tell people what radiation even the limited How many 0:11:33.160 --> 0:11:34.319 weeks did you go through. 0:11:34.200 --> 0:11:41.160 Radiation, Krista, I had twenty treatments total. Yeah, and it 0:11:41.240 --> 0:11:49.240 was four weeks. I was having them every day for 0:11:49.360 --> 0:11:53.520 the first couple weeks and by Wednesday, I start on Monday. 0:11:53.600 --> 0:11:58.640 By Wednesday, I was so wiped out, so tired. I 0:11:58.800 --> 0:12:01.600 just came home and flapped and slept and. 0:12:01.640 --> 0:12:06.040 Slept, I remember, and and it really does drain a person. 0:12:06.760 --> 0:12:11.240 Plus it had the other side effect of because of 0:12:11.280 --> 0:12:16.240 the intense heat from radiation of miscoloring your breast on 0:12:16.280 --> 0:12:17.120 that one side. 0:12:17.040 --> 0:12:21.920 Yeah, I had a really good tan line for oh 0:12:22.280 --> 0:12:23.160 probably two. 0:12:23.040 --> 0:12:28.160 Years, right, and the hair underneath your arms on that 0:12:28.280 --> 0:12:34.240 side was gone. Yeah, yeah, you didn't. You didn't have 0:12:34.280 --> 0:12:36.199 to shave. You didn't have to shave your pits for 0:12:36.240 --> 0:12:36.960 like a long time. 0:12:37.000 --> 0:12:39.560 I remember that, just the one side. 0:12:40.080 --> 0:12:42.679 I slay it on the other side, right, So what 0:12:42.720 --> 0:12:46.760 did you call your breast after the surgery and after 0:12:46.800 --> 0:12:50.120 the radiation, because it just it didn't look quite normal? 0:12:50.160 --> 0:12:52.080 What'd you call your breast? 0:12:52.280 --> 0:12:56.040 And I still call it that Franken boob, the Franken boob. 0:12:57.960 --> 0:13:04.120 Yeah, all right, So let's flash ahead to now it's 0:13:04.160 --> 0:13:10.839 been three years almost since you were declared cancer free, right, yeah, and. 0:13:10.960 --> 0:13:15.040 Friday, Friday, I go back to my namigram and I 0:13:15.080 --> 0:13:19.800 will know and I believe that it will be three 0:13:19.880 --> 0:13:21.040 years cancer free. 0:13:22.559 --> 0:13:24.920 It's such a blessing to have you been and it's 0:13:24.920 --> 0:13:27.360 such a blessing that it turned out the way it did. 0:13:27.600 --> 0:13:29.760 Not everybody has it turned out the way we did, 0:13:29.760 --> 0:13:33.800 And we know that we're very, very fortunate so far, 0:13:33.960 --> 0:13:36.880 very grateful to God and to the surgeons and the 0:13:36.880 --> 0:13:43.480 people who treated you. And if you don't mind, we'll 0:13:43.520 --> 0:13:45.960 switch gears here just a little bit. Talking to christ 0:13:45.960 --> 0:13:49.560 to two point oh. My wife Breast cancer Awareness month. 0:13:49.679 --> 0:13:54.680 She is a breast cancer survivors. As her shirt says, 0:13:55.280 --> 0:13:58.120 she's got a great shirt. I love this, this shirt, 0:13:58.360 --> 0:14:01.679 this shirt you wear from time to time. Cancer picked 0:14:01.679 --> 0:14:06.760 a fight with the wrong chick, and it certainly did. Yeah, 0:14:06.880 --> 0:14:09.040 you have made a decision in the last few weeks 0:14:09.280 --> 0:14:11.680 to do something that you've never done in your life, 0:14:12.480 --> 0:14:13.120 this coming out. 0:14:13.360 --> 0:14:14.840 I've been thinking about it for. 0:14:14.760 --> 0:14:15.559 A while. 0:14:17.200 --> 0:14:17.719 And what is that? 0:14:17.920 --> 0:14:24.600 And I'm getting bad sized on Sundays? 0:14:24.760 --> 0:14:28.400 And you never got you never did it your entire life. 0:14:29.760 --> 0:14:33.440 No, I wasn't brought up your religion so well. 0:14:33.320 --> 0:14:35.800 I mean you can be religious about anything. You mean, 0:14:35.840 --> 0:14:39.320 you weren't brought up in the church. Uh, it wasn't 0:14:39.360 --> 0:14:40.160 an emphasis. 0:14:40.240 --> 0:14:48.680 Yeah, No, nobody went so I know, I had to 0:14:48.680 --> 0:14:49.840 figure it out on my own. 0:14:50.800 --> 0:14:50.880 No. 0:14:51.040 --> 0:14:52.920 I think I think God likes it better when we 0:14:52.960 --> 0:14:55.280 have a personal relationship and you do figure it out 0:14:55.320 --> 0:14:55.840 on your own. 0:14:56.560 --> 0:14:56.680 Uh. 0:14:56.880 --> 0:15:00.120 Yeah, plenty of plenty of help from the Bible. Uh, 0:15:01.080 --> 0:15:01.440 you can't. 0:15:01.520 --> 0:15:04.240 You can't get better instruction than the Word of God itself. 0:15:05.920 --> 0:15:09.240 So this is this is going to happen, and uh, 0:15:09.560 --> 0:15:11.880 you've been so excited about it ever since. 0:15:13.280 --> 0:15:14.680 I am I can't wait. 0:15:16.040 --> 0:15:17.200 But how what do you think? 0:15:17.320 --> 0:15:20.040 What do you think is going to change as a 0:15:20.080 --> 0:15:22.960 result of this symbolic act. 0:15:24.120 --> 0:15:27.000 I think my faith in God it's gonna be so 0:15:27.160 --> 0:15:31.720 much greater then I can possibly imagine. 0:15:33.240 --> 0:15:35.360 Well, I want you to. 0:15:35.320 --> 0:15:38.680 Know that I love you very much, and uh, you 0:15:38.720 --> 0:15:40.520 know I say it off the radio, so I'm not 0:15:40.560 --> 0:15:42.000 just saying it for the sake of tonight. 0:15:42.400 --> 0:15:44.960 I love you very much. I am. 0:15:45.320 --> 0:15:48.800 I am so proud to be married to you and 0:15:50.000 --> 0:15:54.520 proud of you, proud of your strength in facing what 0:15:55.080 --> 0:15:58.360 you know you have faced. I say, we but it's 0:15:58.640 --> 0:16:01.520 cancer in your body. I've just been there with you. 0:16:02.440 --> 0:16:07.720 But I and I am so glad for you that 0:16:07.800 --> 0:16:11.760 you decided to make this decision about being baptized. I 0:16:13.400 --> 0:16:16.800 think it's tremendous. I have a couple I've been baptized 0:16:16.800 --> 0:16:19.000 a couple of times. I didn't feel the need to 0:16:19.000 --> 0:16:23.680 get dunked again. But I'm going to be right there 0:16:23.720 --> 0:16:27.720 with you on Sunday and We're gonna be at Grace Fellowship, 0:16:27.960 --> 0:16:32.720 Grace Fellowship Church, the Fort Thomas Campus in the nine 0:16:32.720 --> 0:16:35.680 o'clock service this coming Sunday morning, when christ To two 0:16:35.720 --> 0:16:38.160 point zero gets baptized. If you'd like to come join 0:16:38.240 --> 0:16:42.920 us and celebrate with Christa and with me, that would 0:16:42.960 --> 0:16:43.800 be wonderful. 0:16:44.760 --> 0:16:45.080 Baby. 0:16:45.160 --> 0:16:48.600 I love you, I love you. I'll see you when 0:16:48.600 --> 0:16:51.440 I get home. You won't see me because you'll be asleep, 0:16:51.520 --> 0:16:55.440 but I'll see you when I get home and we'll 0:16:55.480 --> 0:16:59.920 talk then. All right, Absolutely, you can say anything you want. 0:17:01.240 --> 0:17:06.240 All right, ladies, get your anogram that can save your life. 0:17:06.480 --> 0:17:06.880 Amen. 0:17:08.280 --> 0:17:12.280 Thanks Perry, Christa two point zero on the Nightcap. As 0:17:12.280 --> 0:17:17.560 we continue in moments after News here on seven hundred WLW, 0:17:19.240 --> 0:17:22.520 as we get into chapter two of tonight's Nightcap into 0:17:22.560 --> 0:17:26.560 the second half hour, welcoming back a guest that we 0:17:26.640 --> 0:17:29.879 have had on previously. It's been a couple of months. 0:17:29.920 --> 0:17:34.320 I think she is not a vaccine denier. She is 0:17:34.359 --> 0:17:38.040 a vaccine investigator. I think that'd be the best words. 0:17:38.040 --> 0:17:41.480 She may agree or disagree, and she's also written the 0:17:41.520 --> 0:17:46.520 book The Ultimate Vaccine Timeline of fact packed history of 0:17:46.640 --> 0:17:50.959 vaccines and their makers. And she joins us again with 0:17:51.440 --> 0:17:53.480 a little bit of new information. We'll cover some of 0:17:53.520 --> 0:17:57.760 the old ground, I'm sure, but just to introduce her 0:17:57.800 --> 0:18:02.199 to you. But let me bring on shas Khan from London. 0:18:02.240 --> 0:18:06.080 How are you doing, shas Hi Gary, I'm doing really 0:18:06.119 --> 0:18:06.480 well in. 0:18:06.440 --> 0:18:11.919 Yourself, doing well, doing well, London born, Swiss Indian. She 0:18:12.200 --> 0:18:18.160 is by education, well at least formal education, a creative designer. 0:18:19.400 --> 0:18:23.520 And then you throw in information junkie, critical thinker, and 0:18:24.520 --> 0:18:30.200 the bio description Shaws says, somewhat obsessed with vaccines. I 0:18:30.240 --> 0:18:35.919 can say more than somewhat obsessed with vaccine. You've been 0:18:35.960 --> 0:18:39.800 studying the history going back, going back hundreds of years 0:18:40.080 --> 0:18:44.600 of what has become what we know as vaccines today. 0:18:44.840 --> 0:18:48.399 When does your research actually start? In the book? 0:18:48.720 --> 0:18:51.600 Well, the first book I put A first entry I 0:18:51.600 --> 0:18:53.840 put in the book was five seventy eighty because that's 0:18:53.880 --> 0:18:57.919 the actual time that someone gave the definition of bariola, 0:18:57.960 --> 0:19:01.080 which was smallpox. And I think definitely are very important 0:19:01.119 --> 0:19:04.320 to follow along the path the vaccines of anything, really 0:19:04.359 --> 0:19:08.359 because the definition of wars is important to the understanding. 0:19:08.760 --> 0:19:11.800 So that's the first entry. But variolation in itself, which 0:19:11.880 --> 0:19:15.000 was the old technique of scraping either you know, dried 0:19:15.040 --> 0:19:18.480 small puck gab up the nose or onto the skin. 0:19:18.960 --> 0:19:21.879 Started about about one thousand, five hundred years ago in Asia. 0:19:23.000 --> 0:19:25.080 It's not very clear exactly when it started, but it 0:19:25.119 --> 0:19:27.520 basically came from Asia and then came over to Europe 0:19:27.560 --> 0:19:31.960 via Turkey into the aristocracy, and then to the US 0:19:32.000 --> 0:19:35.440 actually through a lot of religious groups. Actually, so there's 0:19:35.440 --> 0:19:38.320 a long history and from the smallpox vaccine that most 0:19:38.359 --> 0:19:40.719 people know about from the gener times that's more than 0:19:40.760 --> 0:19:42.919 two hundred years ago already, So there's a lot of 0:19:42.920 --> 0:19:44.120 information about vaccines. 0:19:44.640 --> 0:19:45.040 And in. 0:19:47.359 --> 0:19:52.720 Ancient China or fifteen hundred years ago, it wasn't about 0:19:53.600 --> 0:19:57.199 the motive, wasn't how much can we make out of 0:19:57.240 --> 0:19:58.040 this invention? 0:19:58.240 --> 0:20:00.760 It was just how do we heal people? Are are 0:20:01.320 --> 0:20:02.480 save people's lives? 0:20:03.520 --> 0:20:06.040 When when absolutely it was about protecting. 0:20:06.800 --> 0:20:09.359 When did the worms start to turn where it became 0:20:10.320 --> 0:20:17.000 a major I don't know, uh, medical industrial, pharma, pharmaceutical 0:20:17.040 --> 0:20:22.479 complex thing where uh the goal the ultimate goal was 0:20:22.520 --> 0:20:24.280 to make as much money as possible. 0:20:26.280 --> 0:20:28.960 When did that well, Uh, that would be kind of 0:20:28.960 --> 0:20:31.959 hard to pinpoint. I couldn't say that they started vaccinators 0:20:31.960 --> 0:20:35.520 started making money obviously from when they started vaccinating in 0:20:35.880 --> 0:20:38.120 the UK. So that's the first evidence I could find 0:20:38.119 --> 0:20:43.040 the vaccinators actually receiving financial compensation for the acts of vaccininating. 0:20:43.640 --> 0:20:45.720 Then the doctors who were the one some of the 0:20:45.720 --> 0:20:49.440 first who got involved in vaccine farms, which was creating, 0:20:49.520 --> 0:20:52.880 you know, like farms of cows to produce smallpox vaccine 0:20:52.880 --> 0:20:54.520 because they saw a business venture in it. 0:20:54.600 --> 0:20:57.000 Let's let's admitt that was but. 0:20:57.040 --> 0:21:00.320 As far as like the mass industrial complex where we're 0:21:00.320 --> 0:21:03.280 at today, that happened after the Second World War, and 0:21:03.560 --> 0:21:06.240 very much the invention of plastics and the mass production 0:21:06.320 --> 0:21:10.000 of plastics helped with that with the one single use strangers, 0:21:10.480 --> 0:21:13.000 but it's still vaccines didn't make a huge amount of 0:21:13.000 --> 0:21:14.800 money at that point. It was really off to the 0:21:14.840 --> 0:21:17.840 eighties with the Beadle Acts in the US and also 0:21:17.880 --> 0:21:20.600 with the Vaccine Injury Compensation Act of nineteen eighty six 0:21:21.160 --> 0:21:24.119 for the vaccine injury I have had compensation act. 0:21:24.160 --> 0:21:28.040 Sorry, I have had a guest on also numerous times 0:21:28.080 --> 0:21:32.600 on this particular topic. His name is Thomas Habiland, and 0:21:33.320 --> 0:21:37.160 he's an Air Force veteran and he has been studying 0:21:37.920 --> 0:21:44.080 these embalming reports about the large white fibrous clots found 0:21:44.080 --> 0:21:49.240 inside corpses that only started showing up after the rollout 0:21:49.400 --> 0:21:54.919 of the mRNA COVID nineteen vaccines, and you know, along 0:21:55.000 --> 0:21:57.919 with the cases of myocarditis and other things that have 0:21:58.000 --> 0:22:02.359 been linked to these vaccines that the public was never 0:22:02.400 --> 0:22:06.480 warned about, and it's still being swept under the rug 0:22:06.520 --> 0:22:11.119 in many cases the adverse effects of the mRNA. But 0:22:11.240 --> 0:22:13.800 are you familiar with the Enbonber's study. There's a brand 0:22:13.840 --> 0:22:17.639 new one coming out among three four hundred bombers in 0:22:17.680 --> 0:22:23.840 the country detailing these odd white clots that they are 0:22:23.840 --> 0:22:27.639 finding inside the corpses that they are working on that 0:22:27.720 --> 0:22:30.080 they never saw before the COVID nineteen vaccine. 0:22:30.080 --> 0:22:32.000 Do you know anything about that shots. 0:22:32.560 --> 0:22:35.480 Yeah, I've heard about this as well, primarily from Jon o'looney, 0:22:35.520 --> 0:22:39.400 who's a British undertaker as they called them here, who 0:22:39.480 --> 0:22:41.840 was one of the first to blow the horn and 0:22:41.920 --> 0:22:45.240 anyway in the UK about these fibers, very strange rubbery 0:22:45.359 --> 0:22:46.280 like white. 0:22:46.000 --> 0:22:50.320 Substances clocks that he found sometimes would trail the whole 0:22:50.400 --> 0:22:54.000 length of a vein or an artery, which was very unusual. 0:22:55.200 --> 0:22:57.920 So yeah, I haven't been following what the latest developments are, 0:22:57.960 --> 0:22:58.640 but I would. 0:22:58.400 --> 0:23:00.880 Imagine that the continuing to find them, and there are 0:23:01.040 --> 0:23:05.560 very strange, fibrous costs which the authority still seem to 0:23:05.600 --> 0:23:09.040 refuse to acknowledge and actually, you know, explain or go into, 0:23:09.160 --> 0:23:12.200 which I mean that follows the whole denial that there 0:23:12.240 --> 0:23:15.159 is in regards to adverse events following these COVID shots 0:23:15.160 --> 0:23:17.240 in general, which we're seeing the world over. 0:23:17.960 --> 0:23:22.000 Yeah, and he also posits, and it gets your opinion 0:23:22.040 --> 0:23:24.640 on this, that there may have been as many as 0:23:24.720 --> 0:23:30.080 seventeen million people killed or severely injured or living with 0:23:30.160 --> 0:23:36.720 these spike protein injuries out of the COVID vaccines. That 0:23:36.800 --> 0:23:39.560 seems like an awfully high number. Do you think it's 0:23:39.720 --> 0:23:40.240 in line? 0:23:41.880 --> 0:23:44.119 Well, he has to remember how many billions of doses 0:23:44.119 --> 0:23:46.800 have been administered in on the world, I mean on 0:23:46.840 --> 0:23:51.360 the planet. I mean that's probably understatement and under estimation 0:23:51.680 --> 0:23:52.959 because we don't really know. 0:23:53.000 --> 0:23:54.600 I think of all the developing. 0:23:54.160 --> 0:23:58.280 Countries where there's no kind of surveyance system whatsoever, where 0:23:58.280 --> 0:24:02.160 people when they die there's no autopsy, any kind of investigations. So, yes, 0:24:02.200 --> 0:24:06.800 the seventeen million is maybe a conservative estimate. But again 0:24:06.840 --> 0:24:09.320 we have to remember that we vaccinated over five billion 0:24:09.359 --> 0:24:11.840 people on this planet with all different types of you know, 0:24:11.920 --> 0:24:17.360 already varying health issues to start off with, so it could. 0:24:17.119 --> 0:24:17.760 Be higher than that. 0:24:18.920 --> 0:24:20.560 Do you believe that. 0:24:22.119 --> 0:24:25.320 The COVID nineteen vaccines saved many more people than it 0:24:25.400 --> 0:24:27.639 is injured or affected or killed? 0:24:29.560 --> 0:24:32.120 Well, based on my experience here, I mean, I'm based 0:24:32.119 --> 0:24:34.119 in Switzerland and I'm part of a group of medical 0:24:34.119 --> 0:24:37.919 professionals and health professionals, and what I'm hearing on the 0:24:37.960 --> 0:24:40.800 field is absolutely not that. I'm hearing way more about 0:24:40.800 --> 0:24:42.760 injury than anybody being saved. 0:24:42.480 --> 0:24:44.639 About We have to remember. 0:24:44.560 --> 0:24:47.800 COVID was not a dangerous disease for the majority of people. Yes, 0:24:47.840 --> 0:24:49.960 it was dangerous for people who have a certain age, 0:24:50.000 --> 0:24:53.000 who had certain who are diabetic, who are a beest, 0:24:53.000 --> 0:24:56.560 who had hypertension. Those people are the ones who are risk. 0:24:56.960 --> 0:25:00.440 So we've now administered this supposed to be prevent this 0:25:00.680 --> 0:25:05.320 treatment which can't prevent transmission and doesn't prevent infection to 0:25:05.480 --> 0:25:09.160