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Speaker 1: Here comes the nine to noon radio show on a Wednesday.

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Speaker 1: Nordo produces and I'm Paul Allen the timber Tech What's

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Speaker 1: on Deck setlist momentarily with a wild card Wednesday. But

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Speaker 1: first Minnesota Timberwolves head coach Chris Finch weekly nine to

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Speaker 1: Now courtesy of Second Harvest Heartland and two Harvest dot

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Speaker 1: Org along with prize picks, and the head coach joins us. Now, Hey, Chris,

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Speaker 1: how about that on ball defense by your squad in

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Speaker 1: the Mavericks game? And good morning, buddy, thanks for the time.

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Speaker 2: Hey, yeah, no problem, happy to be on. Thank you. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: it was uh, it was good man. Our defense has

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Speaker 2: been outstanding really in the last couple of weeks. I

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Speaker 2: think we've rated number one in the league over the

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Speaker 2: past seven or eight games. And it starts on the ball.

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Speaker 2: It always does start on the ball. We're getting after

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Speaker 2: it right there. And then you know, when we're good

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Speaker 2: on the ball, we seem to be better at the rim.

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Speaker 2: You know, gives Rudy a little bit more time to

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Speaker 2: be to be at the rim and do his thing.

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Speaker 1: So when when you say top ranked defense in the

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Speaker 1: NBA the last couple of weeks, like like what are

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Speaker 1: a couple of identifiers.

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Speaker 2: Uh yeah, a couple of things. One is, you know,

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Speaker 2: our our pick and roll defense has been outstanding. Again,

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Speaker 2: it's a lot of it starts with what we're doing

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Speaker 2: on the ball. Our fouling has kind of decreased, so

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Speaker 2: we're doing a little bit better at the job there.

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Speaker 2: We've always played really good first shot defense, so sometimes

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Speaker 2: you know, the fouling and the and the rebounding will

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Speaker 2: drag your numbers down if you're if you're not rebounding well,

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Speaker 2: you know, it's as you know, with all these things, Pa,

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Speaker 2: it's all connected. Like if you do a good job

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Speaker 2: of containing the ball, you don't get put put into rotation.

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Speaker 2: If you're in rotation a lot, then you struggle to

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Speaker 2: rebound because you're kind of out of position when the

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Speaker 2: ball the ball is shot, and so it's just kind

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Speaker 2: of a chain reaction of things that happen, and you're

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Speaker 2: always playing catchup in a possession, and so just being

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Speaker 2: better on the ball has been good. Better in transition,

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Speaker 2: take away the easy stuff, you know, and uh, you know, offensively,

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Speaker 2: we we've struggled a little bit, but we haven't you know,

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Speaker 2: we haven't you know, fed a lot of transition opportunities, uh,

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Speaker 2: for off you know, for opponents with with turnovers. So

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Speaker 2: we've done a better job of kind of helping our

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Speaker 2: defense out in a lot of ways too.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for the deep dive. That was fantastic. Anthony Edwards

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Speaker 1: against Dallas. You you loved his game, didn't you.

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Speaker 2: I did. I thought it was the perfect game to

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Speaker 2: pick up his decision making. He played quicker. I thought

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Speaker 2: he played in the flow. His defense was really good

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Speaker 2: and and you know it was perfect like he was

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Speaker 2: get it, get a first run under his belt, get

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Speaker 2: he looked like himself out there. He shot the ball

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Speaker 2: extremely well and we couldn't have asked for a better,

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Speaker 1: Hey, hey, Chris, when you say Anthony made quicker decisions

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Speaker 1: in what facets of his game does that involve?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? I think it's just you know, less holding, uh,

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Speaker 2: But what what happens when you when you hold and

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Speaker 1: Maybe maybe Iyo Desumo heard you and I chatting on

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Speaker 1: the radio last week when you praised Amen Thompson's rebounding

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Speaker 1: as a guard, and Iyo was kind of like, all right,

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Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, absolutely he You know, we've challenged all of

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Speaker 2: great fifty to fifty ball getter too.

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Speaker 1: Like it. In what ways does Iyo or moving forward

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Speaker 1: specifically in the postseason. How does Iyo Desumu make Anthony

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Speaker 2: A couple of ways. For sure, I think, you know,

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Speaker 2: he's dragging his teammates along, and particularly Phones is on

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Speaker 1: Pedal to the medal with the bones I Ant and

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Speaker 1: the rest of the gang, says Chris Finch, coach of

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Speaker 1: the Minnesota Timberwolves. Courtesy of Second Harvest Heartland two Harvest

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Speaker 1: dot orgon prize picks. Jaden McDaniels, is is he going

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we're we're very hopeful that his time level will

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Speaker 2: see what happens here in a week when we reevaluate them.

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Speaker 1: What did regarding seeding in the Western Conference, given we're

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Speaker 1: what would it be nice to have your seeding set

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Speaker 1: so you could rest guys and tinker with lineups? Or

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Speaker 1: is the almost one week time up to the first

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Speaker 2: I think it's enough time, you know. I mean, obviously,

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Speaker 2: there's every reason to think that, you know, the season

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Speaker 2: When you make the playoffs by finishing in the top six,

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Speaker 2: You know, you get a chance to rest, you get

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Speaker 2: almost reinvent yourself at time in that week. So it's

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Speaker 2: been plenty, you know, And obviously we'd love to take

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Speaker 2: down the stretch here, but you know, we've still got

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Speaker 2: we got a lot of work to do.

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Speaker 1: It seems like the Western Conference and the way teams

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Speaker 1: are playing has become a weekly theme with us the

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Speaker 1: last month. I mean, I like last night, I mean,

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Speaker 1: Houston killed the Knicks, and and and I thought the

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Speaker 1: Lakers look good in fact into last into last night, Chris,

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Speaker 1: the top six teams in the Western Conference, we're all

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Speaker 1: on winning streaks of a combined twenty four games. I mean, yeah,

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Speaker 2: That's crazy.

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Speaker 1: The best, the best of the best in the West

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Speaker 1: have just gotten hot at the right time.

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Speaker 2: Correct, Yeah, there's no doubt about it. I mean everyone's

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Speaker 2: lot of reasons for that. One is, uh, everyone realized

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Speaker 2: attention and detail is an all time high right now.

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Speaker 2: And you know there's some obviously some scheduling things in

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Speaker 2: thing you're wanting on a nightly basis, and we say that,

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Speaker 2: but but you know, it's, yeah, it's incredible and I've

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Speaker 2: been tracking it for a while and it just feels

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Speaker 2: like there's been a lot of wind streaks in the

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Speaker 2: top of the Western Conference final though the last two months.

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Speaker 1: Does it matter to you or does it matter to

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Speaker 1: you guys who you get in the first round?

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Speaker 2: Not really. You know, you know, we're not afraid to

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Speaker 2: just always think it's bad basketball karma if you try

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Speaker 2: to predict these things or manipulate anything. And like I

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Speaker 2: said before we got we've still got work to do

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Speaker 2: to make sure we're you know, in that top six

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Speaker 2: and that's our main focus.

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Speaker 1: Amen. Uh, the Detroit Pistons are next on the schedule

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Speaker 1: for you. You get the Pistons for a second time

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Speaker 1: in a week, and again without Cap Cunningham. Uh, they've

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Speaker 1: won five of seven sans Cade. What what what makes

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Speaker 1: JB's team such a tough beat?

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Speaker 2: Well? I think, well, you know, they've managed to maintain

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Speaker 1: Keith Ballard's name makes the mix ooh when new Golden

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Speaker 1: Bernie Kuckar where you know. I mean, Bernie did three

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Speaker 1: Super Bowls. He's one of the most well respected referees

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Speaker 1: in the history of the National Football League, well liked

433
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Speaker 1: by coaches and players. He handled business perfectly. He made mistakes,

434
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Speaker 1: but he handled the business of the confrontational nature of

435
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Speaker 1: these hotly contested games with a plum. Berney prided himself

436
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Speaker 1: on handling things with poise. That's not necessarily the case anymore.

437
00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:28,639
Speaker 1: And see, in thinking this out and thinking back to

438
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Speaker 1: the last couple of seasons we're officiating, I mean, it's

439
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Speaker 1: just that whatever hiring practices they're using again, it's I'm

440
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Speaker 1: not expecting people to spend ten years in the Mayak,

441
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Speaker 1: then fifteen years in the Big ten, and then twenty

442
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Speaker 1: five years into your career you might get a sniff

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Speaker 1: at the National Football League. I'm not even saying it

444
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Speaker 1: has to be that anymore. There are more teams, and

445
00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:54,800
Speaker 1: there are more games, and there's more money, and there

446
00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:58,920
Speaker 1: are more opportunities. It's the fact that some are just

447
00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:04,480
Speaker 1: not ready, quite overmatched and quite indecisive. Players and coaches

448
00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:09,680
Speaker 1: are so crafty they put umpires, side and back judges

449
00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:14,800
Speaker 1: and so on in positions to make tough calls. Why,

450
00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:21,480
Speaker 1: because they've seen on film certain overmatched officials are legitimately

451
00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:27,520
Speaker 1: having season long problems. So when it's like, let's just

452
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Speaker 1: lay it out like this, that highlight you heard from

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Speaker 1: the last play with replacement officials in twenty twelve, that

454
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Speaker 1: was just too much. I mean, people were like, just

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Speaker 1: make it stop. So I don't know what went into

456
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Speaker 1: the end of the negotiations, but it stopped. So the NFL,

457
00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:48,920
Speaker 1: I think, by admission or via some reports that I've

458
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Speaker 1: read lately, the NFL is dramatically more well prepared now

459
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Speaker 1: to handle replacement officials than it was in twenty twelve.

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Speaker 1: And that's fact with the fact that, hey, it could

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Speaker 1: be a negotiating ploy, but it's also real, if we

462
00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:07,840
Speaker 1: don't get together on this, we're going to hire one

463
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Speaker 1: fifty and they're going to get paid whether we come

464
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Speaker 1: together on a deal or not. And oh, by the way,

465
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Speaker 1: if we have replacement officials, we're going to use that

466
00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:21,800
Speaker 1: eye in the sky to overturn obvious mistakes involving certain plays,

467
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Speaker 1: to which my response is or like what makes me

468
00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:30,479
Speaker 1: quizzical with that is like why don't you do that anyway?

469
00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:32,879
Speaker 1: Like why aren't we doing that anyway? But maybe it

470
00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:35,439
Speaker 1: has to do with length the game stuff like that. Whatever.

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Speaker 1: That's where we are with the situation between the NFL

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Speaker 1: and the Referees Association, and the three main points of

473
00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:48,080
Speaker 1: contention have stalled negotiations, according to sources from this Yahoo

474
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Speaker 1: writer who does a good job, and the first is

475
00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:58,320
Speaker 1: an NFL desire to increase accountability measures for poorly performing officials.

476
00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:02,399
Speaker 1: The NFL wants the ability to place lower performers on

477
00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:08,200
Speaker 1: probationary periods, arguing that players and coaches job security depends

478
00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:12,320
Speaker 1: on their performances, so why shouldn't that of officials. Why

479
00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:15,240
Speaker 1: shouldn't it be the same officials have in recent years

480
00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:19,159
Speaker 1: worked spring leagues as a method of more time on task,

481
00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:22,920
Speaker 1: but the league wants the ability to require such development

482
00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:27,359
Speaker 1: procedures for low performing officials rather than it be subject

483
00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:33,520
Speaker 1: to those officials. Discretions to those officials discretion. Number two

484
00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:38,760
Speaker 1: is a disagreement on playoff assignments. The union wants playoff

485
00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:44,000
Speaker 1: assignments to hinge on official seniority, giving preferential treatment to veterans.

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00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:50,199
Speaker 1: The NFL wants performance rather than seniority to dictate playoff assignments,

487
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Speaker 1: with the ability for new yet capable performers to earn

488
00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:58,840
Speaker 1: playoff assignments. I mean, I just want to stop right

489
00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:02,800
Speaker 1: there kidding me with this. And then number three disagreement

490
00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:06,400
Speaker 1: over compensation. Nfls offered and average rays of about six

491
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Speaker 1: and a half percent per year over the six year

492
00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:12,720
Speaker 1: life of the deal. The twenty nineteen negotiations granted officials

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00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:16,119
Speaker 1: and average of five and three quarters percentage up per

494
00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:18,960
Speaker 1: year after agreeing to five point two and twenty twelve.

495
00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:23,040
Speaker 1: The officiating union is arguing NFL officials should be paid

496
00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:28,320
Speaker 1: more commissionately with officials from the NBA, MLB, and NHL.

497
00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:31,640
Speaker 1: NFL believes not fair parallels given how many more games

498
00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:35,920
Speaker 1: those officials work, and so on and so on and

499
00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:39,520
Speaker 1: so on. The league believes it's more ready to respond

500
00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:43,040
Speaker 1: to a potential officiating lockout than twenty twelve due to

501
00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:48,680
Speaker 1: advances in technology. Boundary line cameras, rules, and replay assists staffing.

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Speaker 1: Among the NFL's proposals to the union hiring seventeen referees

503
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Speaker 1: full time. The league has proposed that such officials would

504
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Speaker 1: fly to New York on Tuesdays incas and to review

505
00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:04,120
Speaker 1: the week's performances, as well as a help recruit and

506
00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:08,520
Speaker 1: train officials in the off season. So I'm negative on

507
00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:11,000
Speaker 1: full time officials. I think it's a waste of money.

508
00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:13,600
Speaker 1: I don't think you should have the ability to tell

509
00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:19,320
Speaker 1: school administrator, guy lawyer, guy sales lady, whatever it is,

510
00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:22,320
Speaker 1: that they can't have that other job, specifically when you're

511
00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:25,720
Speaker 1: not giving them benefits. So the pay nearly three point

512
00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:28,959
Speaker 1: fifty a year four, I think that might be starting

513
00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:32,240
Speaker 1: pay or it's on average. That's also that that's in

514
00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:35,200
Speaker 1: another lane, all right, Because you go down that lane,

515
00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:37,640
Speaker 1: then you get people looking at the bottom line of

516
00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:39,920
Speaker 1: the NFL and say, everybody's printing money. How come you

517
00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:42,760
Speaker 1: can't go to ten percent like the rest want. Why

518
00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:45,640
Speaker 1: do you want to sit here at six and whatever percent?

519
00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:49,200
Speaker 1: And that's a big part of it. I understand the second,

520
00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:53,840
Speaker 1: the second disagreement regarding the playoff assignments. I don't see

521
00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:57,400
Speaker 1: how anybody with a straight face can look at somebody

522
00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:02,200
Speaker 1: and say no, no, no matter how well or poorly

523
00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:08,479
Speaker 1: they officiated games during the season, the postseason officials are

524
00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:11,800
Speaker 1: going to get those posts due to seniority. Where the

525
00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:15,000
Speaker 1: NFL's like, no, they're not is we're going to use

526
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Speaker 1: capable performers who are graded on a weekly basis, oh

527
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Speaker 1: to officiate just the most important games of the season.

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Speaker 1: I just don't see with a straight face how you

529
00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:29,040
Speaker 1: can look at it like that from the referee association

530
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Speaker 1: side and actually think you have a case.

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Speaker 3: Isn't that kind of how some other unions might work,

532
00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:36,719
Speaker 3: Like a trade union. I mean, you know, if you're

533
00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:40,040
Speaker 3: a super bad performer in any trade or any industry,

534
00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:43,640
Speaker 3: there certainly should be negative repercussions of that. But whether

535
00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:47,400
Speaker 3: it's a trade union pilots union, right, I mean, an

536
00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:53,040
Speaker 3: airline might have fifteen thousand pilots and there's an elite pilot,

537
00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:56,520
Speaker 3: but he's ten thousandth on the list.

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Speaker 1: I got no idea. So the guy that has so

539
00:30:58,800 --> 00:30:59,880
Speaker 1: many more hours.

540
00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:02,920
Speaker 3: Regards list of how much more or less capable he is,

541
00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:06,720
Speaker 3: is naturally going to get more opportunities because he's higher

542
00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:08,440
Speaker 3: up the list of the seniority aspect.

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Speaker 1: I think. I think it's more common than you'd realize

544
00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:15,440
Speaker 1: in labor in labor unions, right, I'm just in situations

545
00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:21,400
Speaker 1: like this where there's so much money involved in these games. Yeah,

546
00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:23,360
Speaker 1: and in this league, that's why they need to hire

547
00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:26,000
Speaker 1: him full time. And it's a separate, separate segment for

548
00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:27,959
Speaker 1: a different time. Why do they have to hire him

549
00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:28,400
Speaker 1: full time?

550
00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:31,560
Speaker 3: Well, you were talking like it's unfair to the lawyer

551
00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:34,400
Speaker 3: or somebody else. I mean, the league is in charge

552
00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:36,960
Speaker 3: of its own entity, So I don't think it's about fairness.

553
00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:40,880
Speaker 3: You want the best possible performances of these people and

554
00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:43,520
Speaker 3: arguing with the union the control that they would have

555
00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:46,920
Speaker 3: to train their own people. This is an opportunity. We're

556
00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:49,160
Speaker 3: going to privatize it. We are going to keep all

557
00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:51,800
Speaker 3: of this in our house. Our our refs are now

558
00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:54,880
Speaker 3: going to be our employees, will pay them benefits that

559
00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:57,600
Speaker 3: would certainly have to be part of a conversation, and

560
00:31:57,720 --> 00:32:00,520
Speaker 3: then these individuals will will indeed have to choose.

561
00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:02,800
Speaker 1: Hey, this is a really cool thing. As a little

562
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Speaker 1: side piece.

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00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:07,080
Speaker 3: For years, NFL is ending its collective bargaining with the union,

564
00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:09,160
Speaker 3: and they're taking it all in house. Now I have

565
00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:12,120
Speaker 3: a choice. Yeah, do I want to continue doing civil

566
00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:15,120
Speaker 3: litigation and then doing this on Sundays, or do I

567
00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:17,720
Speaker 3: want to join the NFL full time? If they want to,

568
00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:20,520
Speaker 3: if they truly want as much control as you're talking

569
00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:22,880
Speaker 3: about that the league does, that's what they will have

570
00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:24,920
Speaker 3: to do, and it will be very expensive.

571
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Speaker 1: All of them full time, Like, like, what do all

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00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:31,840
Speaker 1: officials do from mid January up to training cap well

573
00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:35,720
Speaker 1: as at least the referees. Yeah, so, so hiring seventeen Okay,

574
00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:38,360
Speaker 1: that's fine because it's such a small percentage. Whatever. We're

575
00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:43,800
Speaker 1: getting off track the when when when we immediately think, oh,

576
00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:48,080
Speaker 1: no replacement officials? Yeah, I say why? I mean, the

577
00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:51,360
Speaker 1: officiating in the National Football League is so bad and

578
00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:55,040
Speaker 1: so inconsistent. And again, you wear the white cap for

579
00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:57,800
Speaker 1: a game. I'm not talking about the white Caps. I'm

580
00:32:57,880 --> 00:33:01,240
Speaker 1: not talking about the leaders who have earned their way

581
00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:04,720
Speaker 1: up the ranks to that spot and they're running the

582
00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:06,960
Speaker 1: best ship they can. Yeah, okay, so we can have

583
00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:09,760
Speaker 1: seventeen of them full time, that's great, give them benefits,

584
00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:13,480
Speaker 1: let them review performances and hire new people in the offseason.

585
00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:16,880
Speaker 1: Maybe that'll help a lot. But this never has been

586
00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:21,320
Speaker 1: This has so infrequently been a problem until the last

587
00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:24,840
Speaker 1: two or three years. Yeah, we're officiating and again the umpires,

588
00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:29,560
Speaker 1: the side judges, the back judges, you know, the ancillary officials.

589
00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:31,840
Speaker 1: I'm telling you right now. I know it is fact.

590
00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:35,280
Speaker 1: The Yes, this is a here's the reality. Because of

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00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:38,520
Speaker 1: the people with whom I chat that there are teams

592
00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:40,600
Speaker 1: and a lot of them, and a lot of players

593
00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:44,200
Speaker 1: and a lot of coaches. They will know who has

594
00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:47,479
Speaker 1: their game by Tuesday. They're going to know where they

595
00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:51,320
Speaker 1: make mistakes and what situations they make mistakes. Generally in

596
00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:54,640
Speaker 1: what situations and games they make mistakes, and they're going

597
00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:56,680
Speaker 1: to do their very best to dial up a play

598
00:33:56,840 --> 00:33:59,160
Speaker 1: like that to put that person in a possession to

599
00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:02,520
Speaker 1: be in a position to benefit them. Now that may

600
00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:06,320
Speaker 1: be age old, but the thing is is they're continually

601
00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:11,880
Speaker 1: making mistake after mistake. It's indecisive. Why because they're no

602
00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:17,120
Speaker 1: longer required to put in the requisite time to develop

603
00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:21,000
Speaker 1: the quick twitch, the quick twitch with the brain like

604
00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:24,720
Speaker 1: a quarterback. A quarterback becomes good with his quick twitch.

605
00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:28,560
Speaker 1: How reps rep after rep after rep after rep. It

606
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Speaker 1: may it may be, it may be monotonous to most people,

607
00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:35,200
Speaker 1: but for what they do for their craft. They become

608
00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:38,879
Speaker 1: quite good at it the more they do a certain thing.

609
00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:41,920
Speaker 1: Same thing with the officials. But I mean, you know,

610
00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:47,759
Speaker 1: you got officials jumping levels like never before to be

611
00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:52,800
Speaker 1: wedged into the National Football League. No, I'm totally with

612
00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:54,520
Speaker 1: you on all that. And I so we'll just just

613
00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:56,400
Speaker 1: to land the plane here. So like when it was

614
00:34:56,520 --> 00:34:58,560
Speaker 1: like I did the same thing last week. Oh maybe

615
00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:01,040
Speaker 1: a replacement officials own No o, Katie bar the doors.

616
00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:06,080
Speaker 1: I don't care. I don't care. Find the find the

617
00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:10,520
Speaker 1: fifty best you have and get rid of the rest

618
00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:15,279
Speaker 1: of them. Yeah, if it's if you if you can't

619
00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:20,839
Speaker 1: come together on a simple disagreement where it's like yeah,

620
00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:24,319
Speaker 1: but vern Over there has been doing it thirty years

621
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Speaker 1: and even though he missed forty five calls this year,

622
00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:29,759
Speaker 1: he gets a chance to be an official in the

623
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Speaker 1: Super Bowl. Right, that's not merit base. That is so

624
00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:36,239
Speaker 1: ridiculous that they would even fight that side of the equation. No,

625
00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:38,839
Speaker 1: I in my opinion, no, I agree again.

626
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Speaker 3: I just I see that as being quite typical in

627
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Speaker 3: terms of you know, they're they're sitting and it's kind

628
00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:46,319
Speaker 3: of you know, a lot of people will look at

629
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Speaker 3: it as a time serve thing maybe, and there's an

630
00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:50,879
Speaker 3: element to that, but well, somebody should tell him time

631
00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:54,520
Speaker 3: only matters in prison. But that's why I think they

632
00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:56,840
Speaker 3: have to hire these guys full time. And I know

633
00:35:56,920 --> 00:35:59,520
Speaker 3: you're not talking about the white Caps, but I think

634
00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:02,640
Speaker 3: that's the start of the NFL clawing back and truly

635
00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:06,239
Speaker 3: owning maybe the quality of their own referees. There are other,

636
00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:08,520
Speaker 3: you know, elements to this too. Think about how many

637
00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:13,320
Speaker 3: more referees there are now. And that's not just an NFL,

638
00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:17,359
Speaker 3: that's that's at every level. And so when the more

639
00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:21,360
Speaker 3: you bring into a pool, I think you can distort

640
00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:24,880
Speaker 3: and ultimately even have to lower the bar naturally, just

641
00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:28,160
Speaker 3: because there are so many more people that aren't ever

642
00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:31,120
Speaker 3: going to be as good as Tony Karrenti or Bernie Kukar.

643
00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:33,560
Speaker 3: Then add in we're seeing it in baseball right now.

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Speaker 2: C B.

645
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Speaker 1: Buckner's been an UMP for how long and people have lived.

646
00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:41,239
Speaker 3: With that looked like that was a terrible call. The

647
00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:45,920
Speaker 3: combination of a video, the combination of technology. Now with abs,

648
00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:48,400
Speaker 3: these guys look awful.

649
00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:52,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're hitting on some really really salient points because

650
00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:55,800
Speaker 1: with that example you've used C. B. Buckner and and

651
00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:59,279
Speaker 1: what we talked to Perk about yesterday, automatic automated balls

652
00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:03,279
Speaker 1: and strikes. The NFL with the with the you know,

653
00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:06,239
Speaker 1: the the refs who potentially are going to hold out, well,

654
00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:07,480
Speaker 1: they're kind of like, well, we got you know, we

655
00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:10,280
Speaker 1: got these boundary cams and we do have the ability

656
00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:14,040
Speaker 1: to Okay, it may extend a game fifteen minutes, and

657
00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:16,840
Speaker 1: fans and media and people may not like that. But

658
00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:19,520
Speaker 1: if the right call is made, at what cost. As

659
00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:22,480
Speaker 1: we're seeing with the ABS and Major League Baseball and

660
00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:24,799
Speaker 1: with the ABS and Major League Baseball, some of these

661
00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:27,480
Speaker 1: old schoolers ain't dealing it and they may have to leave. Correct.

662
00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:31,480
Speaker 1: So when it's like an uh oh, I'm getting to

663
00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:34,480
Speaker 1: the point where I'm like why, I mean, just just

664
00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:39,759
Speaker 1: to just you have the performance, you have the scorecards,

665
00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:44,000
Speaker 1: you have the report cards. You know what the performances are. Consistently,

666
00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:48,759
Speaker 1: then replace them at replace them, get rid of them,

667
00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:52,160
Speaker 1: and do it on merit. If you keep making mistake

668
00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:55,279
Speaker 1: after mistake after mistake after mistake, develop a program to

669
00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:59,200
Speaker 1: potentially help them overcome those mistakes. Maybe that does involve

670
00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:03,800
Speaker 1: something full time, but it it you know, a separate conversation.

671
00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:06,880
Speaker 1: What was really salient. I felt with some things you

672
00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:10,080
Speaker 1: were saying, there is like in this story I read

673
00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:16,400
Speaker 1: the source from the NFL is like coaches jobs sometimes

674
00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:20,759
Speaker 1: are on the line, and you know, a missed call

675
00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:25,319
Speaker 1: at the wrong time by somebody who perpetually misses calls. Yeah,

676
00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:28,200
Speaker 1: well that could lead to that coach's dismissal. Absolutely, you

677
00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:32,280
Speaker 1: certainly could. Well that's that's foolish, Okay, I mean, really,

678
00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:35,960
Speaker 1: how stupid do you think owners are it? Really letting

679
00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:38,759
Speaker 1: somebody go from a job like that is going to

680
00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:40,719
Speaker 1: come down to one call. I think there have been

681
00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:43,720
Speaker 1: a motion. I mean, I agree there were ten coaches

682
00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:47,400
Speaker 1: who lost their jobs this offseason. That's unprecedented. That's a

683
00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:50,279
Speaker 1: third of the league. Yeah, and it's a conversation for

684
00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:53,239
Speaker 1: a different time than involve social media and owners and

685
00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:57,000
Speaker 1: panic and things like that. But it's all bubbling.

686
00:38:57,200 --> 00:38:57,440
Speaker 3: It is.

687
00:38:57,680 --> 00:38:59,880
Speaker 1: This is bubbling right now. Did you see the one

688
00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:00,880
Speaker 1: in Arizona?

689
00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:03,640
Speaker 3: As Not to belabor it, but one of the little

690
00:39:03,719 --> 00:39:06,000
Speaker 3: rule changes or things that they agreed on in az

691
00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:09,279
Speaker 3: was there's the I believe for one year if the

692
00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:12,680
Speaker 3: replacement refs come in the ability basically I in the

693
00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:15,760
Speaker 3: sky or somebody in the booth can correct what would

694
00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:18,520
Speaker 3: be considered an egregious error on the field.

695
00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:20,839
Speaker 1: Where I think the NFL put itself in a box

696
00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:24,440
Speaker 1: with that is, oh, you're willing to do that just

697
00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:27,080
Speaker 1: one year, Well, why don't you just do it period correct?

698
00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:28,319
Speaker 1: Why don't you do it in every game?

699
00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:30,920
Speaker 3: But that's the See, the thing that frustrates me now

700
00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:34,920
Speaker 3: is I'm thinking the innovations that they've made technologically with

701
00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:38,080
Speaker 3: all the cameras and everything, but how come from a

702
00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:40,759
Speaker 3: noon game in Charlotte doesn't get the same cameras as

703
00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:43,719
Speaker 3: Sunday night football or Monday night football. That's why are

704
00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:46,840
Speaker 3: we that this virtual measurement thing they changed one of

705
00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:50,320
Speaker 3: the few more archaic looking things that actually worked pretty

706
00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:52,320
Speaker 3: damn well for decades.

707
00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:56,359
Speaker 1: That's something I overlooked to is you're right. I mean,

708
00:39:56,520 --> 00:40:00,440
Speaker 1: if you have one in thirteen Carolina playing one in

709
00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:05,240
Speaker 1: thirteen New Orleans at noon Central late in the season,

710
00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:09,040
Speaker 1: week fifteen or whatever, there might be five cameras at

711
00:40:09,080 --> 00:40:12,000
Speaker 1: the game. In fact, the sideline angle might be from

712
00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:17,040
Speaker 1: some producer's iPhone. So that's an unfair situation when it

713
00:40:17,120 --> 00:40:20,040
Speaker 1: comes to the eye and the sky and well no,

714
00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:22,160
Speaker 1: because that would be controlled by New York. But just

715
00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:25,560
Speaker 1: lastly here with the replacement refs on the other side

716
00:40:25,560 --> 00:40:28,200
Speaker 1: of it, where emotionally speaking, I'm kind of like, just

717
00:40:28,280 --> 00:40:30,399
Speaker 1: let them go, man, just let them go, and let's

718
00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:34,399
Speaker 1: go back to whatever process or procedure you had where

719
00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:38,640
Speaker 1: people had to put in the time, put in the work,

720
00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:41,359
Speaker 1: recognizing the lines are long and the gigs are hard

721
00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:44,920
Speaker 1: to find, and people worked their way. They worked their

722
00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:47,880
Speaker 1: way so hard to get to these levels, sometimes for

723
00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:51,360
Speaker 1: decades to get there. That's not the case anymore, and

724
00:40:52,040 --> 00:40:56,640
Speaker 1: it's they are reaping what they sewed with the way

725
00:40:56,680 --> 00:40:59,600
Speaker 1: they're hiring some of these officials. Now you bring in,

726
00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:03,319
Speaker 1: you bring in replacements now with legalized gambling all over

727
00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:06,960
Speaker 1: the place. Now this is not a concern of mine,

728
00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:10,279
Speaker 1: but permitting replacements into the games at the highest level

729
00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:15,000
Speaker 1: with all the legalized gambling you have, I mean, if

730
00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:20,200
Speaker 1: they're with the replacement reps, I mean even messed up

731
00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:23,600
Speaker 1: calls over a week, like a single game in the

732
00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:26,440
Speaker 1: Age of Rage, if it doesn't go their way, well

733
00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:32,399
Speaker 1: that that could there will be accusations of ulterior motives. Yeah,

734
00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:36,480
Speaker 1: specifically when it's replacements, right, so that Pandora's box is

735
00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:37,040
Speaker 1: open too.

736
00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:39,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, they pull some replacement ref who was just like

737
00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:41,520
Speaker 3: high school game.

738
00:41:41,640 --> 00:41:43,640
Speaker 1: He didn't know it worked at Diamond Joe's when he

739
00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:47,200
Speaker 1: was nineteen on an internship. His house is underwater, he's

740
00:41:47,239 --> 00:41:49,480
Speaker 1: got some credit card debt there. We didn't know that.

741
00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:53,080
Speaker 1: Now he's decided a playoff game. Yeah, let's get Red

742
00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:55,520
Speaker 1: Reddington on the scene to figure out what that guy

743
00:41:55,680 --> 00:41:58,440
Speaker 1: was doing in Prague. All right, I clipped on your

744
00:41:58,520 --> 00:41:59,360
Speaker 1: lion's larceny.

745
00:41:59,560 --> 00:41:59,919
Speaker 2: O good.

746
00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:03,520
Speaker 1: So we know that excites me. So I just want

747
00:42:03,560 --> 00:42:05,600
Speaker 1: to devent that a little bit because it's really really

748
00:42:05,640 --> 00:42:08,880
Speaker 1: beginning to frustrate me. And it's a wildcard Wednesday. This

749
00:42:09,120 --> 00:42:12,720
Speaker 1: is the ultimate wild card heading into the twenty twenty

750
00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:16,399
Speaker 1: six National Football League season. Indeed, Monday mock we had

751
00:42:16,520 --> 00:42:20,520
Speaker 1: two for Tuesday, Thirsty Thursday Tomorrow despite it being box

752
00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:24,279
Speaker 1: in the box wild card Wednesday with the ultimate wild card,

753
00:42:24,719 --> 00:42:29,200
Speaker 1: the potential of replacement officials, and we'll see how this goes.

754
00:42:29,239 --> 00:42:33,160
Speaker 1: Hopefully they come together on something fair, including the right

755
00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:37,640
Speaker 1: officials and white Caps getting to do playoff games and

756
00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:41,440
Speaker 1: the super Bowl because they earned it on merit, not

757
00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:44,920
Speaker 1: because vern has been there for forty five years and

758
00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:47,520
Speaker 1: he missed fifty five calls in the last six weeks

759
00:42:47,560 --> 00:42:49,640
Speaker 1: of the NFL. Now, all of a sudden, he gets

760
00:42:49,680 --> 00:42:52,600
Speaker 1: to be the umpire. That sucks. All right, This is

761
00:42:52,680 --> 00:43:02,440
Speaker 1: nine to noon for a wild Card Wednesday, nine to

762
00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:14,600
Speaker 1: new fan time for wild Card Wednesday, nine to noon. Indeed,

763
00:43:14,680 --> 00:43:16,279
Speaker 1: a wild card Wednesday.

764
00:43:16,520 --> 00:43:20,879
Speaker 3: And while the referee conversation certainly presents a massive maybe

765
00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:24,280
Speaker 3: the most significant wildcard into twenty twenty six, I'm looking

766
00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:27,879
Speaker 3: at the NFL Draft just three weeks and change from now,

767
00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:32,560
Speaker 3: and today's wild Card Wednesday topic is going to be

768
00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:39,320
Speaker 3: lion larceny, as in the Detroit Lions and thievery. The

769
00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:42,279
Speaker 3: Lions hold the seventeenth pick in the first round of

770
00:43:42,320 --> 00:43:45,120
Speaker 3: this draft. That's just one ahead of the Purple and

771
00:43:45,239 --> 00:43:48,400
Speaker 3: it was so exciting sacking Jared Goff like five times

772
00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:52,040
Speaker 3: in Detroit, bludgeoning them on Christmas, ruining their holiday. But

773
00:43:52,160 --> 00:43:54,799
Speaker 3: the result is that the kiddies pick ahead of us

774
00:43:55,120 --> 00:43:58,480
Speaker 3: on that Thursday night. So here are several routes in

775
00:43:58,520 --> 00:44:03,120
Speaker 3: the vein of lion larceny, depending upon what your first

776
00:44:03,239 --> 00:44:06,680
Speaker 3: round flavor may be. So Lions picking ahead of the Vikings,

777
00:44:06,719 --> 00:44:09,880
Speaker 3: could they snipe us? Is it sniping season? Lion larceny

778
00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:12,760
Speaker 3: style for Detroit. I'm going to start with a boring

779
00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:18,040
Speaker 3: but potentially thirsty Thursday angle that could matter. Brian O'Neill

780
00:44:18,239 --> 00:44:21,560
Speaker 3: is in the final year of his deal, twenty three

781
00:44:21,680 --> 00:44:24,239
Speaker 3: million against the cap, nineteen point four in money just

782
00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:24,800
Speaker 3: this season.

783
00:44:25,480 --> 00:44:26,760
Speaker 1: And by the way, I love Brian O'Neil.

784
00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:29,440
Speaker 3: One hundred and twenty four games plus three playoff games

785
00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:31,160
Speaker 3: time never.

786
00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:33,879
Speaker 1: I'm telling gasolene o five. Is that good? Yeah, that'll

787
00:44:33,920 --> 00:44:34,239
Speaker 1: be fine.

788
00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:37,640
Speaker 3: Brian never turned into a Hall of Famer, we know that,

789
00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:41,400
Speaker 3: but never utilized his apparent college era pass catching abilities.

790
00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:42,000
Speaker 1: But we love him.

791
00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:44,759
Speaker 3: He's also getting nicked up and if he can battle through,

792
00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:46,920
Speaker 3: he will and he'll play. But he's turning thirty one

793
00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:49,920
Speaker 3: in September. Shares a b day with Meat Sauce. By

794
00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:53,200
Speaker 3: the way, how these reps and injuries add up? Is

795
00:44:53,239 --> 00:44:56,320
Speaker 3: he still super high end? I wonder how much he

796
00:44:56,440 --> 00:44:59,320
Speaker 3: has left in the tank. So combine that with the

797
00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:03,000
Speaker 3: weirdness around Christian Deiso, though I'm mostly confident that's behind us.

798
00:45:03,520 --> 00:45:04,520
Speaker 1: What about a tackle?

799
00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:07,880
Speaker 3: Well, okay, fall in love with a tackle into the

800
00:45:07,960 --> 00:45:10,520
Speaker 3: draft and we're all ready to pick one at pick eighteen.

801
00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:14,120
Speaker 3: Oh wait, these Lions. They signed Kid Mays and free

802
00:45:14,160 --> 00:45:16,560
Speaker 3: agency to play center. Rumors are they're moving pen A

803
00:45:16,680 --> 00:45:19,600
Speaker 3: Sewell to the left to replace Taylor Decker, which puts

804
00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:25,240
Speaker 3: Larry boram Boring on the right side at tackle.

805
00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:25,960
Speaker 1: Larry.

806
00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:30,000
Speaker 3: They hope Christian Mahogany strengthens his game. Tate rut Legion

807
00:45:30,040 --> 00:45:31,759
Speaker 3: the year two. I think they felt the burn of

808
00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:33,520
Speaker 3: the old line a year ago and might be apt

809
00:45:33,600 --> 00:45:37,000
Speaker 3: to take a right tackle at seventeen. Lion larceny. We

810
00:45:37,160 --> 00:45:41,080
Speaker 3: fall in love with CC Maigoa Francis out of Miami.

811
00:45:41,480 --> 00:45:43,920
Speaker 3: We fall in love with Spencer Fanoah out of Utah.

812
00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:48,239
Speaker 3: We fall in love with Caden Proctor from Alabama.

813
00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:52,399
Speaker 1: Frank wrag Now started all of this by retiring under

814
00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:58,080
Speaker 1: the cover of darkness. So the Lions yesterday, I don't

815
00:45:58,120 --> 00:46:02,200
Speaker 1: know who announced it, make Gan rag Now repay of

816
00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:06,120
Speaker 1: his signing bonus. Well, did you see did you see

817
00:46:06,160 --> 00:46:08,640
Speaker 1: that Riley Reef got away with like a million dollars

818
00:46:08,680 --> 00:46:13,520
Speaker 1: and some half million dollar air straight airstreight air straight.

819
00:46:14,920 --> 00:46:17,480
Speaker 1: Ragnow's got a little late joeft to him. They're so

820
00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:19,799
Speaker 1: pissed off at him still they're making him pay money back.

821
00:46:21,160 --> 00:46:23,560
Speaker 3: Ragnow is just tied to have lunch at Vicks out

822
00:46:23,600 --> 00:46:26,319
Speaker 3: in Victoria, and he's getting to call for Brad Holmes. Hey,

823
00:46:26,320 --> 00:46:28,879
Speaker 3: about two million of that siding BoatUS placed?

824
00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:32,960
Speaker 1: What do you want me to give you a what? Uh? Well?

825
00:46:33,120 --> 00:46:37,120
Speaker 3: These three tackles, as I mentioned in Mauigoa, Fino and

826
00:46:37,560 --> 00:46:39,560
Speaker 3: uh and Proctor out of Bama, these are the three

827
00:46:39,680 --> 00:46:42,919
Speaker 3: names consistently mocked or considered top half of the first round.

828
00:46:42,920 --> 00:46:45,719
Speaker 3: There's this dude the Georgia. I think Monroe freeling as well.

829
00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:50,200
Speaker 3: Lions radars, but Lions larceny. The Vikings settle in on

830
00:46:50,320 --> 00:46:52,799
Speaker 3: one of those tackles. Kiddies are on the clock. They

831
00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:55,399
Speaker 3: show video a Caden Proctor on the phone, high five

832
00:46:55,480 --> 00:46:56,040
Speaker 3: and his agent.

833
00:46:56,440 --> 00:46:59,239
Speaker 1: That would be an l That would be fevery time

834
00:46:59,360 --> 00:47:03,839
Speaker 1: for wild Card Wednesday nine to noon. But I'm not done.

835
00:47:03,920 --> 00:47:07,359
Speaker 3: There are several ways in which the kiddies could absolutely

836
00:47:07,480 --> 00:47:09,960
Speaker 3: snipe us and ruin our draft night Thursday night.

837
00:47:10,080 --> 00:47:14,239
Speaker 1: How about this? Jeez, forget about the tackle. But I'm

838
00:47:14,239 --> 00:47:16,799
Speaker 1: not forgetting about this thing with Jonathan Garnard. This thing's weird.

839
00:47:16,880 --> 00:47:19,200
Speaker 1: How cheery have we been? Two of the three segments

840
00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:21,680
Speaker 1: to start a Wednesday? I mean I lost my mind

841
00:47:21,760 --> 00:47:23,720
Speaker 1: in the referee thing, it's supposed to go eight minutes.

842
00:47:25,440 --> 00:47:28,200
Speaker 3: Oh, this Jonathan Grenard thing is weird, man. And if

843
00:47:28,239 --> 00:47:31,399
Speaker 3: it doesn't come to a positive conclusion, would an edge

844
00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:32,840
Speaker 3: rusher be on our radar?

845
00:47:33,040 --> 00:47:37,400
Speaker 1: Maybe somebody like this guy? Good on him up top Park.

846
00:47:38,680 --> 00:47:43,520
Speaker 3: Under Presser throws out as he was being sacked, the

847
00:47:43,640 --> 00:47:44,880
Speaker 3: key Messidor was.

848
00:47:44,880 --> 00:47:45,800
Speaker 1: There for Miami.

849
00:47:45,880 --> 00:47:50,440
Speaker 3: They're going to roll that it incomplete pass man. PA's

850
00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:53,440
Speaker 3: guy Rvel Reese is probably gonna be gone. Ruben Bain

851
00:47:54,480 --> 00:47:58,160
Speaker 3: is a teammate to mister Messidora in Miami. He's probably gone.

852
00:47:58,200 --> 00:48:00,560
Speaker 3: What about David Bailey from Texas Tech. I'm just some

853
00:48:00,719 --> 00:48:03,120
Speaker 3: kind of naming names, aren't they But what.

854
00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:03,799
Speaker 1: If they're gone?

855
00:48:04,320 --> 00:48:06,920
Speaker 3: And if those tackles go and suddenly Brad Holmes is like,

856
00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:10,080
Speaker 3: hang on a second, all right, mister Campbell, let's sit

857
00:48:10,160 --> 00:48:13,880
Speaker 3: down here. We got Aiden Hutchinson on one side and

858
00:48:14,040 --> 00:48:17,360
Speaker 3: DJ Wantam on the other. That's unacceptable.

859
00:48:18,239 --> 00:48:18,600
Speaker 2: Wantum.

860
00:48:18,960 --> 00:48:21,239
Speaker 3: So, while Rob is ready to call on the next

861
00:48:21,360 --> 00:48:25,120
Speaker 3: great pass rusher for the Minnesota Vikings seventeenth overall, the

862
00:48:25,200 --> 00:48:31,520
Speaker 3: Detroit Lions take a key Messidor edge rusher. Miami Lions

863
00:48:31,760 --> 00:48:34,560
Speaker 3: larceny on a wild card Wednesday. But you know what,

864
00:48:36,040 --> 00:48:37,879
Speaker 3: Rob and he talked to you a couple of days

865
00:48:37,920 --> 00:48:39,879
Speaker 3: ago from Arizona, and it's just kind of he wants

866
00:48:40,080 --> 00:48:45,040
Speaker 3: good football players in this building, good football players. And

867
00:48:45,160 --> 00:48:47,560
Speaker 3: maybe it's not just good football players. Maybe it's just

868
00:48:47,960 --> 00:48:53,560
Speaker 3: best player available, most explosive player available, and probably not

869
00:48:53,680 --> 00:48:55,840
Speaker 3: taking a center, right. I mean, we figure we figure

870
00:48:55,840 --> 00:48:58,000
Speaker 3: out this Grenard thing, everything's fine, and then we love

871
00:48:58,080 --> 00:49:00,560
Speaker 3: Brian O'Neil, so we added in another cu years to

872
00:49:00,640 --> 00:49:03,680
Speaker 3: the bit, some void years, etc. Rob does this thing financially,

873
00:49:04,120 --> 00:49:06,759
Speaker 3: but theeneman's gone. Tackles not on our radar, and we

874
00:49:06,920 --> 00:49:09,640
Speaker 3: want to splash hard with great football players.

875
00:49:09,920 --> 00:49:12,560
Speaker 1: Maybe it's this game, personnels and formations. It's going to

876
00:49:12,560 --> 00:49:13,120
Speaker 1: be fun to watch.

877
00:49:13,640 --> 00:49:16,160
Speaker 3: Might go five deep at running back, go to the outside,

878
00:49:16,360 --> 00:49:20,440
Speaker 3: and again I had a shit of Sadik Sidik touchdown.

879
00:49:21,680 --> 00:49:23,520
Speaker 1: It's a big boy score for the Ducks.

880
00:49:23,840 --> 00:49:24,279
Speaker 3: Sure it is.

881
00:49:24,520 --> 00:49:28,840
Speaker 1: Kenyon Sadiq's part of My Bears boondoggling about thirty five minutes.

882
00:49:28,960 --> 00:49:32,400
Speaker 3: Well, you know the Lions have Ben Johnson MVPA. They

883
00:49:32,440 --> 00:49:34,879
Speaker 3: see Comet, they see Lovelin, they see how they power

884
00:49:35,000 --> 00:49:37,320
Speaker 3: through with multiple tight ends, how explosive they can be,

885
00:49:37,920 --> 00:49:39,279
Speaker 3: how it impacts their run game.

886
00:49:39,880 --> 00:49:42,200
Speaker 1: And now Montgomery's gone, so they want to.

887
00:49:42,200 --> 00:49:44,920
Speaker 3: Make sure they put Gibbs and Isaiah Pacheco on a

888
00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:48,120
Speaker 3: platter protection game, the whole thing. Maybe better means best,

889
00:49:48,520 --> 00:49:53,200
Speaker 3: and they add Kenyon Sidiq with Sam Laporta at seventeen

890
00:49:53,560 --> 00:49:56,480
Speaker 3: and we're sitting there, pockets turned out at eighteen, they're

891
00:49:56,520 --> 00:49:59,920
Speaker 3: at seventeen, You're at You're on stage at US Bank State,

892
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:02,680
Speaker 3: I'm on and the whole thing goes well south.

893
00:50:02,840 --> 00:50:08,400
Speaker 1: That's until the man who single handedly ruin their twenty

894
00:50:08,480 --> 00:50:14,200
Speaker 1: twenty five season moves from twenty five to sixteen to

895
00:50:14,280 --> 00:50:16,160
Speaker 1: get the tight end with the four to three speed.

896
00:50:16,719 --> 00:50:19,440
Speaker 1: And that's part of the Bear's boondoggle. About thirty five

897
00:50:19,520 --> 00:50:22,560
Speaker 1: minutes from now, on a wild card Wednesday one final

898
00:50:22,880 --> 00:50:24,560
Speaker 1: Lions larceny right there.

899
00:50:24,560 --> 00:50:28,760
Speaker 3: Lyons larceny in play potentially because we love Byron Murphy,

900
00:50:28,840 --> 00:50:31,759
Speaker 3: we love Isaiah Rodgers. Isaiah final year of his deal

901
00:50:32,080 --> 00:50:34,640
Speaker 3: and if he replicates his previous season, we ain't resigning

902
00:50:34,719 --> 00:50:35,720
Speaker 3: him for eight million bucks.

903
00:50:35,760 --> 00:50:39,360
Speaker 1: So Abian Moreau, James Pierre, James Pierre, come on, Zamaia

904
00:50:39,480 --> 00:50:42,879
Speaker 1: Vaughn Neudy. It's Neudy. Why you gotta doubt James Pierre

905
00:50:42,960 --> 00:50:44,000
Speaker 1: hasn't played a snap yet.

906
00:50:44,080 --> 00:50:47,360
Speaker 3: That's unfair. You're right, Mike mcglothern. We're forward focused. That

907
00:50:47,520 --> 00:50:48,040
Speaker 3: your focus.

908
00:50:48,160 --> 00:50:50,440
Speaker 1: He's been in the league longer than some others, so

909
00:50:50,600 --> 00:50:52,799
Speaker 1: of course you want to elevate him to a spot

910
00:50:52,840 --> 00:50:54,960
Speaker 1: where he has to play forty plays a game. How

911
00:50:55,000 --> 00:50:58,600
Speaker 1: can you ask time served? Get that pension? Time only

912
00:50:58,680 --> 00:51:01,240
Speaker 1: matters in prison. Maybe we like this guy their talent

913
00:51:01,320 --> 00:51:13,160
Speaker 1: in the game. Sir Mo Mata a cross matfield.

914
00:51:14,560 --> 00:51:19,160
Speaker 3: Terriblenception through by Yeah, terrible interception.

915
00:51:19,320 --> 00:51:20,080
Speaker 1: Jermald McCoy.

916
00:51:20,239 --> 00:51:22,799
Speaker 3: Frankly, I picked him because he's generally listed as next

917
00:51:22,920 --> 00:51:27,200
Speaker 3: best after PA's guy Monsieur de Laine. He's coming off

918
00:51:27,239 --> 00:51:29,000
Speaker 3: in ACL That scares me a bit. Need to do

919
00:51:29,120 --> 00:51:32,160
Speaker 3: more work on Avion Terrell. Ajterrell's brother is going to

920
00:51:32,200 --> 00:51:34,080
Speaker 3: be in this draft, maybe a first rounder as well.

921
00:51:34,840 --> 00:51:38,040
Speaker 3: Colton Hood is Jermad's Tennessee teammate, might have some first

922
00:51:38,120 --> 00:51:40,240
Speaker 3: round quality to him, but the Lions.

923
00:51:40,320 --> 00:51:41,439
Speaker 1: DJ Reid's deal has.

924
00:51:41,320 --> 00:51:43,319
Speaker 3: An easy out after this season if he doesn't start

925
00:51:43,360 --> 00:51:46,280
Speaker 3: living up to the money. Terry on Arnold penalty prone

926
00:51:46,320 --> 00:51:48,359
Speaker 3: and from my standpoint, hasn't lived up to that first

927
00:51:48,440 --> 00:51:51,960
Speaker 3: round equity either. So then it's Roger McCreary, Rocky Sin

928
00:51:52,440 --> 00:51:53,960
Speaker 3: and it's Rake Straw Junior.

929
00:51:54,280 --> 00:51:56,560
Speaker 1: They got depth issues there just like we do.

930
00:51:57,160 --> 00:51:59,279
Speaker 3: And it was even more exposed given the health or

931
00:51:59,360 --> 00:52:03,360
Speaker 3: lack of via Brian Branch and Kirby Joseph and well, frankly,

932
00:52:03,520 --> 00:52:05,160
Speaker 3: that means Peneman.

933
00:52:05,200 --> 00:52:06,359
Speaker 1: Is an option maybe there too.

934
00:52:06,480 --> 00:52:08,879
Speaker 3: I don't know you said Terry and Arnold too well.

935
00:52:09,320 --> 00:52:11,719
Speaker 3: I just think it has been a disaster. It hasn't

936
00:52:11,760 --> 00:52:14,000
Speaker 3: worked out well at all. And so just find a

937
00:52:14,080 --> 00:52:16,920
Speaker 3: lion larceny bit. Let's get to Guestling and get some

938
00:52:17,000 --> 00:52:19,560
Speaker 3: elite opinions from him. But lion larceny on a wild

939
00:52:19,640 --> 00:52:23,759
Speaker 3: card Wednesday, the Lions sitting at seventeen, They're legit four

940
00:52:23,840 --> 00:52:26,360
Speaker 3: or five different ways that they could snipe us on

941
00:52:26,440 --> 00:52:28,080
Speaker 3: Thursday night, So just be prepared for that.

942
00:52:28,239 --> 00:52:33,880
Speaker 1: Well done, It's the Lions. Ben Gasline describe covers the

943
00:52:33,920 --> 00:52:36,680
Speaker 1: team the Minnesota Vikings for the Star tribuw. He joins

944
00:52:36,760 --> 00:52:39,320
Speaker 1: nine to noon each and every Tuesday, including make that

945
00:52:39,440 --> 00:52:42,520
Speaker 1: day each and every Tuesday, which is a Wednesday for

946
00:52:42,640 --> 00:52:45,200
Speaker 1: a Tuesday appearance, but he wasn't feeling well yesterday, so

947
00:52:45,360 --> 00:52:46,200
Speaker 1: BG is next.