1 00:00:00,360 --> 00:00:05,800 Speaker 1: It's nice with Dan Ray. I'm going razy Boston's News Radio. 2 00:00:05,960 --> 00:00:08,640 Speaker 2: Not only is it a great idea to go to 3 00:00:08,840 --> 00:00:11,120 Speaker 2: Knightside with Dan Ray, but it is even a greater 4 00:00:11,200 --> 00:00:13,120 Speaker 2: idea to stay for the next. 5 00:00:12,920 --> 00:00:14,600 Speaker 3: Four hours with Nightside with Dan Ray. 6 00:00:14,640 --> 00:00:16,040 Speaker 2: We have a great show coming and we had a 7 00:00:16,040 --> 00:00:18,720 Speaker 2: great show last night, by the way, and I also 8 00:00:18,760 --> 00:00:21,520 Speaker 2: want to mention that we have Rob Brooks is off 9 00:00:21,520 --> 00:00:25,040 Speaker 2: this week, but Shane Stokes is in the control room 10 00:00:25,079 --> 00:00:27,440 Speaker 2: as our producer. So please be nice to Shane. Say 11 00:00:27,520 --> 00:00:29,840 Speaker 2: hi to Shane when you call in after nine o'clock. 12 00:00:29,880 --> 00:00:35,560 Speaker 2: That'll he's a very He's a really good producer. And 13 00:00:36,240 --> 00:00:39,559 Speaker 2: Rob is on vacation, but I'll say it, Shane's been 14 00:00:39,600 --> 00:00:43,120 Speaker 2: doing a great job. Now we have four guests coming 15 00:00:43,200 --> 00:00:46,600 Speaker 2: up this hour. We're going to talk about exceptive zoning 16 00:00:46,640 --> 00:00:50,159 Speaker 2: and permitting restrictions in a moment with state Representative John Gaski. 17 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:54,400 Speaker 2: He represents a number of communities down in the southeast 18 00:00:54,440 --> 00:00:58,520 Speaker 2: corner of the state. His home community is Carver. Will 19 00:00:58,680 --> 00:01:00,920 Speaker 2: identify those communities for you as well. Then we're going 20 00:01:00,960 --> 00:01:05,319 Speaker 2: to talk about seasonal depression, that effective disorder that impacts 21 00:01:05,360 --> 00:01:07,120 Speaker 2: a lot of people this time of year. As where 22 00:01:07,840 --> 00:01:11,440 Speaker 2: our daylight hours, our daylight minutes are drifting away, and 23 00:01:11,480 --> 00:01:14,880 Speaker 2: there'll be a big impact this weekend because by what 24 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:18,000 Speaker 2: said Sunday night, it's going to be getting darker a 25 00:01:18,080 --> 00:01:20,600 Speaker 2: heck of a lot Earlier. We'll explain that. Then we'll 26 00:01:20,600 --> 00:01:24,160 Speaker 2: talk with Ken mahon, meteorologists from the Boston Globe about 27 00:01:24,160 --> 00:01:27,319 Speaker 2: the impact of Hurricane Melissa down in the Caribbean, the 28 00:01:27,400 --> 00:01:32,160 Speaker 2: Dominican Republic Haiti as well as of course Jamaica was. 29 00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:34,520 Speaker 3: Really hit by it today and yesterday. 30 00:01:34,840 --> 00:01:37,000 Speaker 2: And we'll also talk with an oil and gas expert 31 00:01:37,040 --> 00:01:41,160 Speaker 2: about the possibility of gas prices gas at the pump, 32 00:01:41,880 --> 00:01:45,640 Speaker 2: those gas prices going even lower. We'll talk about a 33 00:01:45,760 --> 00:01:49,760 Speaker 2: zoning battle coming up in Medford, and we'll talk about a. 34 00:01:49,800 --> 00:01:50,760 Speaker 3: Visitor to. 35 00:01:52,440 --> 00:01:59,040 Speaker 2: Producer Lightning Marita producer Marita's backyard earlier this week. Wait 36 00:01:59,080 --> 00:02:01,760 Speaker 2: do you see? Well, we'll explained the picture. But first up, 37 00:02:01,880 --> 00:02:05,800 Speaker 2: let's talk with State Representative John Gaske. He's a Republican 38 00:02:05,920 --> 00:02:09,240 Speaker 2: down in the second Plymouth District and Representative. I know 39 00:02:09,360 --> 00:02:12,160 Speaker 2: your hometown is Carver. What are the other communities that 40 00:02:12,240 --> 00:02:12,919 Speaker 2: you represent? 41 00:02:14,840 --> 00:02:19,799 Speaker 4: Good evening, Dan, Good evening, Yeah, so I also represent 42 00:02:20,400 --> 00:02:24,239 Speaker 4: where him and the sudden portion of Middleborough. 43 00:02:24,760 --> 00:02:25,560 Speaker 3: Excellent, okay. 44 00:02:25,760 --> 00:02:30,440 Speaker 2: And the issue that you're concerned about is the use 45 00:02:30,480 --> 00:02:39,720 Speaker 2: of excessive zoning and permitting regulations that restrict individual owners 46 00:02:40,200 --> 00:02:44,280 Speaker 2: to utilize their property in a reasonable fashion, but in 47 00:02:44,320 --> 00:02:47,040 Speaker 2: a way that they see fit. If I frame the 48 00:02:47,040 --> 00:02:48,760 Speaker 2: issue for you, tell us what you mean, if I 49 00:02:48,840 --> 00:02:50,240 Speaker 2: framed it correctly, I hope I have. 50 00:02:51,480 --> 00:02:59,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, Well, that's that's pretty much that Dan. That when 51 00:02:59,080 --> 00:03:03,360 Speaker 4: you've got a private homeowner who doesn't have access to 52 00:03:03,919 --> 00:03:08,720 Speaker 4: a team of lawyers and engineers there that's trying to 53 00:03:08,800 --> 00:03:15,560 Speaker 4: get maybe a garage built or extend their fence or 54 00:03:15,560 --> 00:03:19,680 Speaker 4: something like that, and then they have to go into 55 00:03:21,639 --> 00:03:26,560 Speaker 4: try to navigate the the bylaws, the local bylaws and 56 00:03:26,600 --> 00:03:31,280 Speaker 4: the state by laws and everything else like that. It's 57 00:03:31,720 --> 00:03:35,800 Speaker 4: it becomes such a daunting test that so many people 58 00:03:35,920 --> 00:03:38,560 Speaker 4: just refuse to take part in it and end up 59 00:03:38,600 --> 00:03:43,480 Speaker 4: with with doing you know, illegal additions and things like 60 00:03:43,520 --> 00:03:45,240 Speaker 4: that that they end up having to work out whenever 61 00:03:45,240 --> 00:03:46,760 Speaker 4: they sell their properties. 62 00:03:47,160 --> 00:03:50,560 Speaker 3: Well, you know, I think most of us understand, particularly 63 00:03:50,920 --> 00:03:55,280 Speaker 3: if you live in a residential community, that you don't 64 00:03:55,320 --> 00:03:57,880 Speaker 3: want a barroom opening up on the corner. You don't 65 00:03:57,920 --> 00:04:01,120 Speaker 3: want a pizza joint will putting up next to you. 66 00:04:01,240 --> 00:04:03,920 Speaker 3: Those are great to have in a commercial district. So 67 00:04:04,080 --> 00:04:07,840 Speaker 3: most of us understand that. But why is it that 68 00:04:08,040 --> 00:04:12,040 Speaker 3: when someone's looking to do something simple as you mentioned, 69 00:04:12,240 --> 00:04:17,680 Speaker 3: extending a fence or maybe adding a garage which will 70 00:04:17,720 --> 00:04:21,200 Speaker 3: allow them to keep their car a little more covered 71 00:04:21,520 --> 00:04:24,479 Speaker 3: during during the wintertime here in New England, why is 72 00:04:24,520 --> 00:04:27,880 Speaker 3: it that the bureaucrats seem to give people what I 73 00:04:27,880 --> 00:04:30,480 Speaker 3: would characturize as unnecessary aggravation. 74 00:04:33,240 --> 00:04:37,599 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a good question, and I think you know, 75 00:04:37,880 --> 00:04:40,760 Speaker 4: a lot of it comes down to, you know, people, 76 00:04:41,400 --> 00:04:48,960 Speaker 4: they they try to hide behind making sure that whatever 77 00:04:49,040 --> 00:04:54,119 Speaker 4: somebody is going to put up sits in the sits 78 00:04:54,160 --> 00:05:01,680 Speaker 4: in the area, or that if they if they're making 79 00:05:01,680 --> 00:05:06,120 Speaker 4: a repair, that they especially if it's like an antique home, 80 00:05:06,160 --> 00:05:09,679 Speaker 4: that it has to be repaired at a specific way, 81 00:05:10,279 --> 00:05:15,839 Speaker 4: even if that way ends up, you know, costing costing 82 00:05:15,960 --> 00:05:22,320 Speaker 4: folks extra money when they can when they can build 83 00:05:22,400 --> 00:05:25,479 Speaker 4: or repair to make it look as it was just 84 00:05:25,600 --> 00:05:30,640 Speaker 4: using more modern materials and people these different boards and 85 00:05:30,680 --> 00:05:34,839 Speaker 4: things like that, forcing people to use older and efficient 86 00:05:34,920 --> 00:05:37,359 Speaker 4: methods and materials. 87 00:05:37,560 --> 00:05:40,000 Speaker 2: Well, you know, I can understand that if you live 88 00:05:40,040 --> 00:05:43,640 Speaker 2: in an anti home, you know, circa you know, sixteen 89 00:05:43,720 --> 00:05:44,440 Speaker 2: or forty or. 90 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:45,040 Speaker 3: Something like that. 91 00:05:46,240 --> 00:05:48,320 Speaker 2: I get that, But at the same time, you would 92 00:05:48,360 --> 00:05:54,000 Speaker 2: think that they would be some flexibility that I hate 93 00:05:54,040 --> 00:05:55,560 Speaker 2: to put it this way, but I do think that 94 00:05:55,600 --> 00:05:59,480 Speaker 2: some people who find themselves in positions of some power 95 00:05:59,680 --> 00:06:06,680 Speaker 2: or influence often get a little influenced by that power itself. Yea, 96 00:06:06,880 --> 00:06:09,560 Speaker 2: almost what you and I might refer to as petty bureaucrats. 97 00:06:09,640 --> 00:06:12,400 Speaker 2: I just don't know why human nature drives people in 98 00:06:12,440 --> 00:06:12,960 Speaker 2: that direction. 99 00:06:13,839 --> 00:06:16,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's that's a that's a really good question. I mean, 100 00:06:16,400 --> 00:06:23,320 Speaker 4: because I think everybody starts out with good intentions and 101 00:06:23,400 --> 00:06:28,120 Speaker 4: then as they as they get into the position. So 102 00:06:28,839 --> 00:06:35,000 Speaker 4: a lot of times we're forced to the boards and stuff, 103 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:38,719 Speaker 4: are kind of forced to push a specific way because 104 00:06:38,720 --> 00:06:42,400 Speaker 4: of state laws, and the state is breathing down their neck. 105 00:06:42,560 --> 00:06:47,599 Speaker 4: And if they don't if they don't force a particular 106 00:06:49,800 --> 00:06:54,200 Speaker 4: by law or you know, like or don't allow something 107 00:06:55,440 --> 00:06:57,719 Speaker 4: that's not good for the that's not good for the 108 00:06:57,760 --> 00:07:00,400 Speaker 4: area that you know. There's the the opposite side of 109 00:07:00,400 --> 00:07:03,640 Speaker 4: that as well, where. 110 00:07:05,160 --> 00:07:05,520 Speaker 3: You know that. 111 00:07:08,760 --> 00:07:12,360 Speaker 4: You know, projects are Let's take for instance, with the 112 00:07:12,440 --> 00:07:16,560 Speaker 4: NBTA Communities Act and stuff, where they're trying to drive 113 00:07:17,880 --> 00:07:22,240 Speaker 4: multi family housing stuff in an area like with Carver 114 00:07:22,680 --> 00:07:29,640 Speaker 4: that just doesn't have the infrastructure to support it. We 115 00:07:29,640 --> 00:07:33,480 Speaker 4: we end up going back and forth where the state 116 00:07:33,600 --> 00:07:38,840 Speaker 4: is trying to force its will onto landowners and neighbors, 117 00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:43,160 Speaker 4: and then you've got the town either pushing back or 118 00:07:43,240 --> 00:07:47,600 Speaker 4: accepting it. And with when it comes to the little 119 00:07:47,640 --> 00:07:51,400 Speaker 4: guy who doesn't have this big team of people with him, uh, 120 00:07:51,440 --> 00:07:58,000 Speaker 4: they just get the rubber stamp no. And this is uh, 121 00:07:58,040 --> 00:08:01,320 Speaker 4: you know, you know what you need to do with 122 00:08:01,360 --> 00:08:06,160 Speaker 4: your land, and you have a good plan for what 123 00:08:06,200 --> 00:08:11,320 Speaker 4: you want to do, and but but other people are 124 00:08:11,360 --> 00:08:14,440 Speaker 4: just like no, I don't really like that, and. 125 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:17,480 Speaker 3: Has a tough balance to strike. 126 00:08:17,560 --> 00:08:20,800 Speaker 2: By the way, I want to ask you a question 127 00:08:20,840 --> 00:08:23,240 Speaker 2: because I'm sure there are a lot of constituents in 128 00:08:23,320 --> 00:08:27,160 Speaker 2: every district here in Massachusetts who are relying upon snap 129 00:08:27,560 --> 00:08:30,080 Speaker 2: payments which may go away this Saturday. 130 00:08:30,120 --> 00:08:32,319 Speaker 3: I spent some time last night on my talk. 131 00:08:32,120 --> 00:08:37,200 Speaker 2: Show advocating that the governor has an eight point eight 132 00:08:37,400 --> 00:08:40,520 Speaker 2: billion dollar rainy day fund, which would put a lot 133 00:08:40,520 --> 00:08:45,520 Speaker 2: of people's minds at ease that their snap payments would continue. 134 00:08:46,000 --> 00:08:48,760 Speaker 3: I'd like to know if if you agree with me, 135 00:08:49,160 --> 00:08:51,400 Speaker 3: or if you agree with the governor that. 136 00:08:53,240 --> 00:08:59,360 Speaker 4: Absolutely agree with you, Dan with this whole thing. They 137 00:08:59,520 --> 00:09:01,600 Speaker 4: you know, the the state is so willing to pay 138 00:09:01,640 --> 00:09:07,480 Speaker 4: for for so much stuff that is really kind of 139 00:09:09,400 --> 00:09:13,920 Speaker 4: extraneous to our life and and doesn't really have much 140 00:09:14,240 --> 00:09:16,520 Speaker 4: impact on us in the day to day thing. But 141 00:09:16,600 --> 00:09:23,440 Speaker 4: when it comes to something as basic as food, you 142 00:09:23,440 --> 00:09:26,800 Speaker 4: don't want to open up your wallet and and make 143 00:09:26,840 --> 00:09:30,000 Speaker 4: sure that everybody that everybody is able to keep going 144 00:09:30,040 --> 00:09:32,880 Speaker 4: to the grocery store and and you know, keeping their 145 00:09:32,920 --> 00:09:36,760 Speaker 4: refrigerator stocked. I mean, that's a little of seem But 146 00:09:37,280 --> 00:09:42,760 Speaker 4: at the same time, our Senators Marky and Warren, they 147 00:09:42,800 --> 00:09:45,240 Speaker 4: they got quite a bit of this blame to shoulder 148 00:09:45,280 --> 00:09:48,120 Speaker 4: as well. As you know, they voted what is it now, 149 00:09:48,160 --> 00:09:52,920 Speaker 4: thirteen times after today that to to keep the government 150 00:09:52,960 --> 00:10:00,320 Speaker 4: shut down. So all because they're they're having a little 151 00:10:00,400 --> 00:10:01,480 Speaker 4: hissy fit over. 152 00:10:01,800 --> 00:10:04,680 Speaker 2: Well, they're basically trying to say, we will negotiate, we 153 00:10:04,760 --> 00:10:07,440 Speaker 2: will open the government and negotiate, but first you have 154 00:10:07,520 --> 00:10:10,280 Speaker 2: to agree to three or four pre preconditions before we'll 155 00:10:10,320 --> 00:10:14,520 Speaker 2: even begin to negotiate. That's not much of a negotiation, representative. 156 00:10:16,080 --> 00:10:19,800 Speaker 4: It's like signing a prenup before you go in to 157 00:10:19,920 --> 00:10:20,319 Speaker 4: the wedding. 158 00:10:21,480 --> 00:10:25,720 Speaker 2: Yes, Sarah, thank you very much. Representative, keep us posted 159 00:10:25,760 --> 00:10:28,400 Speaker 2: on this love to have you back. Thanks again. Representative 160 00:10:28,679 --> 00:10:33,199 Speaker 2: John Gaskey of Carver represents other communities in the second 161 00:10:33,320 --> 00:10:34,360 Speaker 2: Plymouth District. 162 00:10:34,360 --> 00:10:35,600 Speaker 3: Thank you very much, Representative. 163 00:10:36,559 --> 00:10:37,120 Speaker 4: Have a good night. 164 00:10:37,559 --> 00:10:37,880 Speaker 3: All right. 165 00:10:38,400 --> 00:10:40,480 Speaker 2: When we get back, we're going to talk about seasonal 166 00:10:40,520 --> 00:10:48,120 Speaker 2: depression effective disorder with doctor Vashar rud Hakrishnan. She is 167 00:10:48,160 --> 00:10:51,199 Speaker 2: a psychiatrist and Tuft's Medical Center. This is going to 168 00:10:51,240 --> 00:10:54,120 Speaker 2: be an important conversation. Do stay with us here on Nightside. 169 00:10:54,160 --> 00:10:56,480 Speaker 3: My name is Dan Ray. 170 00:10:56,920 --> 00:11:01,839 Speaker 5: You're on Night Side with Boston's News Radio. 171 00:11:03,080 --> 00:11:07,760 Speaker 2: All right, I want to welcome doctor varshap run Hakrishnan. 172 00:11:08,960 --> 00:11:11,160 Speaker 2: I gave it my best shot. I'm hoping I got 173 00:11:11,200 --> 00:11:15,959 Speaker 2: that last name pretty close to correct, doctor, very very. 174 00:11:15,800 --> 00:11:19,320 Speaker 6: Close, almost almost there, Varsha Radh Krishnan. But thanks so 175 00:11:19,400 --> 00:11:20,800 Speaker 6: much for having me. 176 00:11:21,280 --> 00:11:24,000 Speaker 2: Oh well, yes, well, thank you very much. You're a 177 00:11:24,040 --> 00:11:26,719 Speaker 2: psychiatrist at Tuft's Medical Center. And we're gonna go through 178 00:11:26,760 --> 00:11:30,079 Speaker 2: a big change this weekend. We're going to have our 179 00:11:30,160 --> 00:11:34,360 Speaker 2: clocks fall back, so it's gonna start getting dark around here. 180 00:11:35,280 --> 00:11:39,520 Speaker 2: Not at four thirty quarter five, well, it will be 181 00:11:39,559 --> 00:11:41,439 Speaker 2: four to thirty quarter of five for to start to 182 00:11:41,480 --> 00:11:41,920 Speaker 2: get dark. 183 00:11:41,920 --> 00:11:43,480 Speaker 3: We're gonna lose We're gonna lose an hour. 184 00:11:43,600 --> 00:11:46,000 Speaker 2: We're gonna gain an hour of sleep, but lose an 185 00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:49,200 Speaker 2: hour of afternoon daylight. And that impacts a lot of 186 00:11:49,240 --> 00:11:54,000 Speaker 2: people with what is called seasonal effective disorder. 187 00:11:55,480 --> 00:12:00,360 Speaker 3: How can people diagnose that, because that's a serious album. 188 00:12:02,040 --> 00:12:05,640 Speaker 6: Absolutely, it actually affects between five to ten percent of 189 00:12:05,800 --> 00:12:08,880 Speaker 6: all adults in the US, so it's it's very common. 190 00:12:08,960 --> 00:12:12,280 Speaker 6: But you know, sometimes it's it's hard to tell when 191 00:12:12,280 --> 00:12:14,960 Speaker 6: you're in the midst of feeling depressed or hopeless in 192 00:12:14,960 --> 00:12:20,280 Speaker 6: those moments, but it's it's really reduced to associated with 193 00:12:20,320 --> 00:12:23,520 Speaker 6: that reduced exposure to sunlight, especially on shorter fall and 194 00:12:23,559 --> 00:12:28,040 Speaker 6: winter days. But some of those warning signs and symptoms, 195 00:12:28,120 --> 00:12:34,080 Speaker 6: especially when when feeling persistently either apathetic, lowen energy, feeling 196 00:12:34,160 --> 00:12:39,600 Speaker 6: depressed or down, hopeless, feeling sad nearly every day most days, 197 00:12:40,040 --> 00:12:43,280 Speaker 6: having trouble waking up, so many many symptoms like that 198 00:12:43,280 --> 00:12:45,079 Speaker 6: that that could be a warning sign. 199 00:12:45,480 --> 00:12:51,840 Speaker 2: Well, this is particularly tough beginning on Sunday because I 200 00:12:51,880 --> 00:12:57,120 Speaker 2: think the sun right now is setting around you know, 201 00:12:57,559 --> 00:13:01,320 Speaker 2: five five, and all of the sudden, the sun at 202 00:13:01,360 --> 00:13:04,200 Speaker 2: our latitude is going to be setting at what will 203 00:13:04,240 --> 00:13:06,920 Speaker 2: be for US four forty five, and the days will 204 00:13:06,960 --> 00:13:10,840 Speaker 2: continue to get shorter for a good five to six weeks. 205 00:13:11,160 --> 00:13:13,800 Speaker 2: So this is a tough time of year for people 206 00:13:13,800 --> 00:13:16,880 Speaker 2: who are impacted by this. The days won't even begin 207 00:13:17,040 --> 00:13:19,520 Speaker 2: to increase in length, and at that point it will 208 00:13:19,559 --> 00:13:22,920 Speaker 2: be around December tenth, maybe a minute or two every day, 209 00:13:22,960 --> 00:13:26,000 Speaker 2: and you really won't notice it until sometime probably in 210 00:13:26,080 --> 00:13:31,400 Speaker 2: late January. What can people do if they think they're 211 00:13:31,520 --> 00:13:32,720 Speaker 2: impacted by this condition? 212 00:13:32,800 --> 00:13:33,920 Speaker 3: Who should reach out? 213 00:13:33,920 --> 00:13:36,319 Speaker 2: I guess to the GP first of all, and then 214 00:13:36,360 --> 00:13:37,960 Speaker 2: find a specialist like yourself. 215 00:13:39,280 --> 00:13:43,800 Speaker 6: Absolutely, so it's always important once any of those symptoms 216 00:13:43,840 --> 00:13:47,840 Speaker 6: start to happen, if there's any kind of difficulty functioning 217 00:13:47,920 --> 00:13:50,840 Speaker 6: during the day, if there's anything at all that feels 218 00:13:51,440 --> 00:13:55,160 Speaker 6: like a big change, it's important to notify your primary 219 00:13:55,200 --> 00:14:00,800 Speaker 6: care provider to talk about any potential medications option. And 220 00:14:00,920 --> 00:14:04,520 Speaker 6: really medications are just one piece, but actually what can 221 00:14:04,600 --> 00:14:09,320 Speaker 6: be really helpful is seeing whether you can purchase a 222 00:14:09,400 --> 00:14:14,040 Speaker 6: light box. So that's actually a very common therapy is 223 00:14:14,080 --> 00:14:19,560 Speaker 6: almost simulating sunlight exposure, and there's certain light therapies that 224 00:14:19,640 --> 00:14:23,320 Speaker 6: can be really really effective and so it's a good 225 00:14:23,360 --> 00:14:25,280 Speaker 6: idea to always bring it up to a primary care 226 00:14:25,320 --> 00:14:28,520 Speaker 6: doc and then they can potentially refer to a psychiatrist 227 00:14:28,600 --> 00:14:30,360 Speaker 6: or a specialist afterwards if needed. 228 00:14:30,960 --> 00:14:33,640 Speaker 2: Now, you say five to ten percent of the population, 229 00:14:33,680 --> 00:14:35,720 Speaker 2: I'm sure within that five to ten percent, there's some 230 00:14:35,920 --> 00:14:42,320 Speaker 2: more serious cases, cases which are more transitional. Are the 231 00:14:42,360 --> 00:14:48,720 Speaker 2: cases that impact people in early November, and even when 232 00:14:48,760 --> 00:14:52,360 Speaker 2: the sun starts to come back and stay high in 233 00:14:52,400 --> 00:14:56,760 Speaker 2: the sky longer at night, it doesn't go away. It 234 00:14:56,800 --> 00:14:59,760 Speaker 2: sticks with him for a substantial period of time. Or 235 00:14:59,800 --> 00:15:03,600 Speaker 2: where does again, when when the sun starts to set 236 00:15:03,640 --> 00:15:10,440 Speaker 2: a little a little later in the day, does does 237 00:15:10,480 --> 00:15:13,840 Speaker 2: the case? Does the situation get resolved until the next November? 238 00:15:15,440 --> 00:15:19,000 Speaker 6: A great question. I would say that generally speaking, for 239 00:15:20,200 --> 00:15:23,440 Speaker 6: most folks who have this this seasonal component of to 240 00:15:23,480 --> 00:15:28,160 Speaker 6: their depression, I'd say it doesn't start and stop necessarily 241 00:15:28,200 --> 00:15:31,280 Speaker 6: perfectly with the changes in the season or or length. 242 00:15:31,040 --> 00:15:32,720 Speaker 2: Of day of the day. 243 00:15:32,800 --> 00:15:37,480 Speaker 6: But yeah, some people can can start to develop symptoms 244 00:15:37,560 --> 00:15:41,680 Speaker 6: later earlier than others. Other folks can have those symptoms 245 00:15:41,680 --> 00:15:45,880 Speaker 6: persist for several weeks, even into you know, changes into 246 00:15:45,880 --> 00:15:48,720 Speaker 6: a new season. So every everyone is a little different. 247 00:15:49,920 --> 00:15:54,400 Speaker 3: Uh is does this impact men more than women? Is 248 00:15:54,440 --> 00:15:54,960 Speaker 3: there an. 249 00:15:54,840 --> 00:15:59,680 Speaker 2: Age calculation that's involved here? I remember Mike Ducaucus is 250 00:16:00,440 --> 00:16:04,880 Speaker 2: late wife Kitty Takak has suffered from this greatly. Is 251 00:16:04,920 --> 00:16:10,040 Speaker 2: there a gender likelihood or an age likelihood that that 252 00:16:10,200 --> 00:16:12,080 Speaker 2: works into this formulation. 253 00:16:13,960 --> 00:16:18,680 Speaker 6: That's a great question. In general, women suffer more from 254 00:16:18,760 --> 00:16:23,359 Speaker 6: seasonal effective disorder than men. It's actually some studies suggesting 255 00:16:23,560 --> 00:16:27,440 Speaker 6: women are four times more likely to develop this disorder. Yeah, 256 00:16:27,480 --> 00:16:30,840 Speaker 6: so it's a pretty significant risk. And some of that 257 00:16:30,920 --> 00:16:34,160 Speaker 6: might actually also be related to hormonal changes that can 258 00:16:34,200 --> 00:16:38,800 Speaker 6: occur in the winter time for women. So that's one 259 00:16:39,000 --> 00:16:41,920 Speaker 6: one important, you know, piece to definitely keep in mind. 260 00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:46,240 Speaker 6: I'd say age wise, sometimes we can see that older 261 00:16:46,280 --> 00:16:51,040 Speaker 6: adults might be affected with a higher likelihood. Part of 262 00:16:51,080 --> 00:16:53,920 Speaker 6: that can be some of the sleep cycles that we 263 00:16:53,960 --> 00:16:57,520 Speaker 6: see they change over time as we age, So that's 264 00:16:57,560 --> 00:17:01,520 Speaker 6: also some substantial risk that we can see both with 265 00:17:01,720 --> 00:17:03,000 Speaker 6: gender and age. 266 00:17:03,440 --> 00:17:07,280 Speaker 3: Okay, then my last question is an. 267 00:17:08,720 --> 00:17:14,600 Speaker 2: Occurrence of this condition and that's confirmed, is that necessarily 268 00:17:15,440 --> 00:17:21,280 Speaker 2: an indication of a deeper psychological issues that should be 269 00:17:21,280 --> 00:17:25,200 Speaker 2: addressed or is this a sort of a topical impact 270 00:17:25,400 --> 00:17:29,360 Speaker 2: that can be dealt with? You know, in some form 271 00:17:29,400 --> 00:17:34,560 Speaker 2: of fashion, but it's not necessarily reflective of a deeper condition. 272 00:17:36,400 --> 00:17:42,240 Speaker 6: So I'd say, generally speaking, the ideology and cause of 273 00:17:42,760 --> 00:17:46,160 Speaker 6: depression can be so variable. On one hand, it can 274 00:17:46,200 --> 00:17:49,840 Speaker 6: be you know, related to genetics. On the other it 275 00:17:49,880 --> 00:17:54,439 Speaker 6: can be environmental factors like changes in in you know, 276 00:17:54,480 --> 00:17:59,080 Speaker 6: the daylight, exposure, the way our bodies are regulating our rhythms. 277 00:17:59,400 --> 00:18:02,359 Speaker 6: But on the other hand, if there's other other stressors 278 00:18:02,359 --> 00:18:06,880 Speaker 6: going on in life that are precipitating depression are increasing 279 00:18:06,920 --> 00:18:10,400 Speaker 6: that risk, I think it really depends on what's what's 280 00:18:10,440 --> 00:18:12,280 Speaker 6: going on during that period of time. 281 00:18:14,560 --> 00:18:15,560 Speaker 3: Just feel like it's very. 282 00:18:15,440 --> 00:18:20,119 Speaker 2: Much an individual case that that means that needs to 283 00:18:20,160 --> 00:18:21,600 Speaker 2: be looked at carefully. 284 00:18:22,480 --> 00:18:25,080 Speaker 6: Absolutely absolutely, everyone's a little different. 285 00:18:25,760 --> 00:18:26,119 Speaker 3: Doctor. 286 00:18:26,200 --> 00:18:30,880 Speaker 2: Thank you so much, Doctor Vasha Rada Krishtan And again, 287 00:18:30,880 --> 00:18:32,760 Speaker 2: I know I didn't get it perfectly, but I'm. 288 00:18:32,600 --> 00:18:33,480 Speaker 3: Trying my best. 289 00:18:34,040 --> 00:18:38,760 Speaker 2: A psychiatrist at Tough Medical Center. Thank you so much 290 00:18:38,800 --> 00:18:42,119 Speaker 2: for your time. I might like to do a longer 291 00:18:42,240 --> 00:18:46,520 Speaker 2: version of this and entertaining callers for maybe a full hour. 292 00:18:47,720 --> 00:18:48,199 Speaker 3: Would you be. 293 00:18:48,240 --> 00:18:50,479 Speaker 2: Willing to spend some time with us and talk to 294 00:18:50,480 --> 00:18:53,159 Speaker 2: some of my listeners. We do not take phone calls 295 00:18:53,560 --> 00:18:58,000 Speaker 2: during these briefer segments. If you'd consider that, I'd be honored. 296 00:18:58,960 --> 00:19:00,560 Speaker 6: Oh, absolutely would love to. 297 00:19:00,920 --> 00:19:04,840 Speaker 3: Okay, I take that as a yes. Thank you so much. 298 00:19:05,640 --> 00:19:07,800 Speaker 2: We'll do something in the next couple of weeks and 299 00:19:07,880 --> 00:19:11,000 Speaker 2: in timely fashion. Thank you so much, doctor, I appreciate 300 00:19:11,040 --> 00:19:11,400 Speaker 2: your time. 301 00:19:11,440 --> 00:19:14,479 Speaker 4: Tonight, Thank you so much. Good night, very welcome. 302 00:19:15,200 --> 00:19:17,960 Speaker 2: Okay, we have the eight thirty news coming by a 303 00:19:17,960 --> 00:19:20,159 Speaker 2: couple of minutes late, but I think it was worth it. 304 00:19:20,200 --> 00:19:22,000 Speaker 2: And we get back on a talk with Ken Mahon, 305 00:19:22,080 --> 00:19:24,480 Speaker 2: meteorologists for the Boston Globe. Yes, the Globe does have 306 00:19:24,520 --> 00:19:29,720 Speaker 2: a meteorologist about Hurricane Melissa's impact on Jamaica as well 307 00:19:29,720 --> 00:19:34,280 Speaker 2: as Haiti and the Jamaican Republic as well. But impact 308 00:19:34,320 --> 00:19:37,520 Speaker 2: on Jamaica has been just horrific. Back on Night Side, 309 00:19:37,560 --> 00:19:39,760 Speaker 2: my name is Dan Ray. We are halfway through the 310 00:19:39,800 --> 00:19:42,479 Speaker 2: eight thirty hour. We have just begun. Stay right with us. 311 00:19:42,520 --> 00:19:44,159 Speaker 2: You're going to have a fun night with us, a 312 00:19:44,160 --> 00:19:45,560 Speaker 2: fun ride all the way to midnight. 313 00:19:47,040 --> 00:19:51,680 Speaker 1: It's Night Side with Dan Ray, Boston's News Radio. 314 00:19:52,840 --> 00:19:55,960 Speaker 3: Delighted to have back here on the show. Ken Mahan. 315 00:19:56,720 --> 00:20:01,960 Speaker 2: He is the Globe meteorologist and can I assume you're 316 00:20:01,960 --> 00:20:04,159 Speaker 2: probably getting only some radio time with the Globe, and 317 00:20:04,200 --> 00:20:08,880 Speaker 2: I know you have a new interactive sports program with ESPN, 318 00:20:08,960 --> 00:20:12,159 Speaker 2: so I'm sure you're getting some on air TV. 319 00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:12,640 Speaker 3: Time as well. 320 00:20:12,640 --> 00:20:15,320 Speaker 2: But you're going to talk with us tonight about the 321 00:20:15,359 --> 00:20:19,840 Speaker 2: impact of this storm, Hurricane Melissa, Haiti, the Dominican Republic, 322 00:20:20,359 --> 00:20:25,560 Speaker 2: and most importantly Jamaica. This can I think I heard 323 00:20:25,880 --> 00:20:29,400 Speaker 2: is the worst on record that Jamaica. 324 00:20:30,119 --> 00:20:34,000 Speaker 7: Then, yeah, then, first of all, thanks for having me back. 325 00:20:34,080 --> 00:20:38,200 Speaker 7: Really appreciate chatting with you. And unfortunately you're correct. It's 326 00:20:38,240 --> 00:20:42,400 Speaker 7: the strongest hurricane to ever make landfall in the Atlantic 327 00:20:42,440 --> 00:20:47,320 Speaker 7: Basin on record, numerous record shatters, and unfortunately for the 328 00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:51,000 Speaker 7: island of Jamaica, still eastern Cuba portions of Haiti, as 329 00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:54,920 Speaker 7: you mentioned, pushing into the Bahamas now tonight. But boy, 330 00:20:54,960 --> 00:20:59,720 Speaker 7: what a devastating scenario for Jamaica upwards towards three feet 331 00:20:59,760 --> 00:21:04,919 Speaker 7: of rain and the higher elevations, ridiculous coastal inundation and 332 00:21:04,960 --> 00:21:09,160 Speaker 7: storm surge up to fifteen feet in some spots. Unfortunately, 333 00:21:09,240 --> 00:21:12,800 Speaker 7: worst case scenario, as the hurricane made sort of a 334 00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:16,760 Speaker 7: head on collision to the island versus side swiping, so 335 00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:20,520 Speaker 7: it brought its entire fury and it was strengthening as 336 00:21:20,520 --> 00:21:23,399 Speaker 7: it went into landfall. Pretty remarkable. 337 00:21:23,920 --> 00:21:29,439 Speaker 2: So, putting aside the weather aspects are there, I assume 338 00:21:29,480 --> 00:21:33,040 Speaker 2: they don't have any real final numbers on people who 339 00:21:33,080 --> 00:21:34,000 Speaker 2: have lost. 340 00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:36,399 Speaker 3: Their lives, have lost their homes. 341 00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:39,480 Speaker 2: I assume it's going to take days to even discover 342 00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:42,959 Speaker 2: how many people have been devastated by this storm. 343 00:21:43,920 --> 00:21:45,840 Speaker 7: Yeah, Dan, I think you're right with that. You know, 344 00:21:45,880 --> 00:21:49,679 Speaker 7: there's all sorts of different information out there on different 345 00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:54,159 Speaker 7: news outlets, local and national and global, and through social 346 00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:56,879 Speaker 7: media outlets, but I'm sure you're right it's going to 347 00:21:56,920 --> 00:22:00,760 Speaker 7: take some time in order to unfortunately figure out what 348 00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:05,360 Speaker 7: the casualties end up being. The National Hurricane Center did 349 00:22:05,680 --> 00:22:09,480 Speaker 7: put it really bluntly that Hurricane Melissa is going to 350 00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:15,560 Speaker 7: bring complete structural failure, and unfortunately, I've seen so many 351 00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:18,640 Speaker 7: images more than I've wanted to of just that, so 352 00:22:19,280 --> 00:22:21,159 Speaker 7: have a very difficult scenario in Jamaica. 353 00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:25,119 Speaker 8: For sure, did the forecasters it sounded to me, And 354 00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:27,159 Speaker 8: you follow this more closely than I do, but it 355 00:22:27,240 --> 00:22:31,000 Speaker 8: sounds to me like the forecasters pretty much predicted how 356 00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:31,880 Speaker 8: bad this would be. 357 00:22:31,960 --> 00:22:35,919 Speaker 3: That everyone had, well, maybe not as much. 358 00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:38,960 Speaker 2: Advanced notice as they would have liked, but there was 359 00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:42,119 Speaker 2: advanced notice here, so I hope some lives were saved 360 00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:48,840 Speaker 2: as a result of accurate, a little pretty devastating forecasts. 361 00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:53,760 Speaker 7: Yeah, you know, you're right, Dan, the forecasting the picture 362 00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:57,040 Speaker 7: became clear pretty early on, and it's not always the 363 00:22:57,080 --> 00:23:01,679 Speaker 7: case in the world of forecasting. Shit was because it 364 00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:05,960 Speaker 7: eliminates more questions as we lead to an impending landfall. 365 00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:09,280 Speaker 7: But for sitting ducks on an island, there's only so 366 00:23:09,359 --> 00:23:12,560 Speaker 7: much that you can do. The track, the intensity was 367 00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:18,920 Speaker 7: forecasted days ahead, but unfortunately it's I mean, jeez, you're 368 00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:22,760 Speaker 7: sort of just sitting there waiting, twiddling your gums. Just 369 00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:25,480 Speaker 7: hopefully folks got to their safe place out of harm 370 00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:28,200 Speaker 7: and we're able to muscle through the worst of it 371 00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:29,760 Speaker 7: for us. 372 00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:33,040 Speaker 2: For the United States, this has been a fairly quiet 373 00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:35,880 Speaker 2: hurricane season. I know that technically it's not over until 374 00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:41,080 Speaker 2: the end of November, but we've been pretty fortunate this year. 375 00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:43,640 Speaker 2: We're going to get brushed by some rain I guess 376 00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:49,200 Speaker 2: tomorrow and into Friday, which is probably related to Melissa. 377 00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:52,639 Speaker 2: Am I incorrect on that or did I hear no correctly? 378 00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:58,240 Speaker 7: Dan, You're pretty spot on there, you know. Fortunately for 379 00:23:58,280 --> 00:24:01,560 Speaker 7: the United States, we're not. We're most likely not going 380 00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:04,040 Speaker 7: to see a landfalling hurricane this year, which would be 381 00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:07,480 Speaker 7: the first time since twenty fifteen that has happened, So 382 00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:10,800 Speaker 7: that is good news as far as for us in 383 00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:14,119 Speaker 7: New England. Melissa is taking up speed and will be 384 00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:21,280 Speaker 7: near Bermuda very very quickly by late morning early afternoon tomorrow. 385 00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:26,000 Speaker 7: And because of its sheer size and how tall the 386 00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:28,000 Speaker 7: structure is, a lot of the moisture is going to 387 00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:30,080 Speaker 7: be caught up in the upper level and you hit 388 00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:33,080 Speaker 7: it spot on, it's going to fuel some of the 389 00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:36,080 Speaker 7: rainfall that we're going to see tomorrow evening and overnight 390 00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:40,720 Speaker 7: into Halloween morning across New England. Fortunately, I think that 391 00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:43,119 Speaker 7: the rainfall will be steady enough where we won't be 392 00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:46,840 Speaker 7: dealing with flooding issues across New England. But you know, 393 00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:49,080 Speaker 7: we are going to see a rainy night tomorrow and 394 00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:52,480 Speaker 7: then talking about Halloween morning at least being wet before 395 00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:54,840 Speaker 7: trick or treating stays hopefully dry for everybody. 396 00:24:55,760 --> 00:25:01,040 Speaker 2: And I assume that once Melissa gets bad asked Bermuda, 397 00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:05,119 Speaker 2: the next stop is Europe, so there's not much between 398 00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:11,160 Speaker 2: Bermuda and Europe, so at that point it's it's devastation. 399 00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:15,160 Speaker 3: The impact of Melissa will will dissipate. 400 00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:19,360 Speaker 7: I hope you know it's it's funny. Then I appreciate 401 00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:24,040 Speaker 7: your you're you're looking at this sort of expanding the scope. Yeah, 402 00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:27,720 Speaker 7: the Northern Atlantic sea surface temperatures this year have been 403 00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:31,080 Speaker 7: pretty warm, above average, so a lot of these storms, 404 00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:34,000 Speaker 7: I say a lot relatively speaking, but a couple of 405 00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:36,760 Speaker 7: the storms that have made it this far north, and 406 00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:39,920 Speaker 7: Melissa will follow suit, will will end up being sort 407 00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:44,520 Speaker 7: of a coastal storm for portions of Europe, Ireland, the UK. 408 00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:48,159 Speaker 7: You're definitely correct, and that instant that's happened on a 409 00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:50,960 Speaker 7: couple of occasions this season already. 410 00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:54,800 Speaker 2: I'll tell you give me a quick weekend weather forecast, 411 00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:56,359 Speaker 2: can but what you do best? 412 00:25:56,480 --> 00:25:57,840 Speaker 3: I know it's only Wednesday. 413 00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:01,960 Speaker 2: People are still thinking about the first weekend of November. 414 00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:03,880 Speaker 3: What are we looking at? Saturday and Sunday. 415 00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:07,880 Speaker 7: So Saturday and Sunday I'm going to call them sort 416 00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:10,639 Speaker 7: of copycat days. It does look like the weather pattern 417 00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:13,560 Speaker 7: is going to stable out a little bit on Saturday 418 00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:16,560 Speaker 7: and Sunday. We do have the end of daylight saving 419 00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:20,200 Speaker 7: Time coming on Sunday early Sunday morning, so we'll start 420 00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:23,359 Speaker 7: to see those four thirty pm sunsets, but going to 421 00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:25,560 Speaker 7: be sort of a mix of sun and clouds both 422 00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:29,720 Speaker 7: Saturday and Sunday. Windy on Saturday, but much much more 423 00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:33,280 Speaker 7: calm on Sunday, with highs for both days settling mostly 424 00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:37,119 Speaker 7: in the mid fifties across Boston, most of Massachusetts, billing 425 00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:40,679 Speaker 7: into southern New Hampshire and Rhode Island. So calm in 426 00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:43,560 Speaker 7: comparison to what we're going to see tomorrow evening in 427 00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:46,359 Speaker 7: early Friday morning, but still definitely going to feel like 428 00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:48,520 Speaker 7: early November by the time that weekend wraps up. 429 00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:52,240 Speaker 3: So I guess we could call it calm, but crisp. 430 00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:58,800 Speaker 2: Yes, I like it, just like a good Macintosh apple crisp. 431 00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:00,840 Speaker 4: That's right. 432 00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:01,080 Speaker 3: Oh. 433 00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:04,880 Speaker 2: Thanks always great to talk with you. I so enjoy 434 00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:07,040 Speaker 2: our conversations. We've got to get to get you on 435 00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:09,520 Speaker 2: here more often. Thank you, my friend Ken Mahond and 436 00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:11,760 Speaker 2: me and mediologist of the Boston Globe. 437 00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:14,600 Speaker 7: Thank you so much, Ken, Thank you so much. 438 00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:17,160 Speaker 2: All Right, when we get back, we're going to get 439 00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:20,239 Speaker 2: into the good news portion of this hour, and that 440 00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:24,080 Speaker 2: is there are some predictions that gas prices may be 441 00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:27,640 Speaker 2: still going lower. They've gone they are now on average 442 00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:29,600 Speaker 2: across the country below three dollars a gallon? 443 00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:32,320 Speaker 3: Uh? Could we get closer to two? 444 00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:33,119 Speaker 7: Uh? 445 00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:36,040 Speaker 2: We're going to talk with a oil and gas expert 446 00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:39,240 Speaker 2: by the name of Ray Trevino. 447 00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:40,640 Speaker 3: We'll see what he. 448 00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:42,480 Speaker 2: Has to say on the other side of this break 449 00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:46,600 Speaker 2: on a Wednesday night edition of Nightside. 450 00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:52,159 Speaker 5: It's Night Side with Boston's news Radio. 451 00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:55,920 Speaker 3: Well, last week we received the good news. 452 00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:59,119 Speaker 2: That the average price of a gallon of gasoline across 453 00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:02,879 Speaker 2: the country was now below three dollars a gallon. There 454 00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:06,000 Speaker 2: are some places where it's substantially lower, and there are 455 00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:08,800 Speaker 2: some places where it's still above three dollars a gallon, 456 00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:12,480 Speaker 2: particularly I believe in California. Here in Massachusetts, it's pretty 457 00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:16,399 Speaker 2: close to that magic line of three dollars a gallon. 458 00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:19,520 Speaker 2: With us now is Ray Travino. He's an oil and 459 00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:23,400 Speaker 2: gas expert. He runs a company called pekos is Picos 460 00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:26,240 Speaker 2: or pekos where I never know how to pronounce that word. 461 00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:30,680 Speaker 9: How are you doing well, it's Pekosos Country Energy. 462 00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:34,280 Speaker 2: I'm doing great. We've had you on before. Thanks for 463 00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:39,600 Speaker 2: joining us again. I guess President Trump he likes to 464 00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:42,800 Speaker 2: tease people and sometimes will say that he likes to 465 00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:49,479 Speaker 2: troll people. He apparently was suggesting that maybe gasoline prices 466 00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:53,000 Speaker 2: are going to take a big dip fairly soon. I 467 00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:57,160 Speaker 2: don't see how they can do that get much below 468 00:28:57,200 --> 00:28:59,840 Speaker 2: where they are now because most of these states take 469 00:28:59,880 --> 00:29:03,520 Speaker 2: a good, you know, hunk of that three dollars average 470 00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:07,520 Speaker 2: price for state taxes. What do you think You know 471 00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:09,760 Speaker 2: this business industry a heck of a lot better than 472 00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:12,840 Speaker 2: I do. Is this possible that the bottom could be 473 00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:14,320 Speaker 2: falling out for gas and oil? 474 00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:19,800 Speaker 9: Well, it wouldn't really be necessarily the bottom falling out 475 00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:22,720 Speaker 9: of oil, but wow, what an eye opener it would 476 00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:26,400 Speaker 9: be for ever for all Americans to know how much 477 00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:30,600 Speaker 9: additional state taxes there are on every gallon of gas. 478 00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:35,120 Speaker 3: Do we do that here here on night Side all 479 00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:36,840 Speaker 3: the time? Trust me on that. 480 00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:42,400 Speaker 9: Okay, yes, but you know it is extremely possible, And 481 00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:46,240 Speaker 9: I don't think at this time if we actually saw 482 00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:49,480 Speaker 9: a two dollars gasoline, And keep in mind, we're in 483 00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:52,640 Speaker 9: some places here in North Texas at two dollars and 484 00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:54,600 Speaker 9: forty nine cents a gallon already. 485 00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:57,040 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, there were some other parts around the country 486 00:29:57,240 --> 00:30:00,360 Speaker 2: where it's two and a half dollars to fifty something 487 00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:00,720 Speaker 2: like that. 488 00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:02,520 Speaker 3: So what would have to happen. 489 00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:05,160 Speaker 2: I mean, on the one hand, we're trying to keep 490 00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:09,400 Speaker 2: Russian oil off the market internationally to cripple their economy. 491 00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:10,680 Speaker 3: That's what's going on. 492 00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:14,440 Speaker 2: We're asking India, in places like India is to stop 493 00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:17,360 Speaker 2: buying Russian oil. At least the Trump administration is to 494 00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:23,720 Speaker 2: hurt Putin's efforts to annihilate Ukrainian and Ukrainians, which is 495 00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:27,680 Speaker 2: a good thing, but that obviously, I think when you 496 00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:31,600 Speaker 2: take their contribution off the market, that's probably going to 497 00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:34,360 Speaker 2: have an inflationary price on the price of gasoline. 498 00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:38,040 Speaker 3: I am my economics one on one wrong on that. 499 00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:41,520 Speaker 9: Well, it's not necessarily that we're going to see an 500 00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:45,040 Speaker 9: inflation increase. What we're going to see is a global 501 00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:49,920 Speaker 9: supply be added to the market. Okay, keep in mind 502 00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:55,080 Speaker 9: that we are now at somewhat of an ease with Iraq, 503 00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:59,120 Speaker 9: and we're allowing Iraq and Iran, what I'm in Iran 504 00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:02,360 Speaker 9: to reduce that three million barrels of oil a day 505 00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:06,400 Speaker 9: as long as they don't create nuclear bombs, and that 506 00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:15,680 Speaker 9: I don't think. And but again because of that, they're 507 00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:17,920 Speaker 9: now they've got three million barrels a day that they've 508 00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:21,000 Speaker 9: got on market. Opek is going to try to get 509 00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:23,320 Speaker 9: up to twelve million barrels a day over the next 510 00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:27,680 Speaker 9: six more months, okay, and the United States is still 511 00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:31,240 Speaker 9: at fourteen million barrels of oil a day. So with 512 00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:35,200 Speaker 9: these countries and of course like Brazil and some of 513 00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:39,320 Speaker 9: the other South America countries that are you know, finally 514 00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:42,480 Speaker 9: in the United States, will only continue to produce oil. 515 00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:46,720 Speaker 9: And what these Russian sanctions truly do is actually affect 516 00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:51,080 Speaker 9: Russia's bottom line and deters them from continuing this war 517 00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:52,000 Speaker 9: in Ukraine. 518 00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:52,760 Speaker 4: Uh. 519 00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:57,360 Speaker 9: These two oil companies that we hit hit their sanctions 520 00:31:57,400 --> 00:32:01,800 Speaker 9: on consists of five percent of the global oil supply, 521 00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:04,719 Speaker 9: so that's a big hit to hit them, not to 522 00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:11,960 Speaker 9: mention the thirty subsaid thearies companies of those two, which 523 00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:16,240 Speaker 9: affect China and India. So we are doing our best 524 00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:19,680 Speaker 9: to curtail anybody for buye. We're actually doing what think 525 00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:23,320 Speaker 9: you they're supposed to do and hurt somebody economically. 526 00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:27,680 Speaker 2: And so you think that we can balance this off, 527 00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:34,440 Speaker 2: we can help put pressure on Russia to back off. Basically, 528 00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:39,120 Speaker 2: I guess to hurt their war machine while at the 529 00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:45,400 Speaker 2: same time have enough production to offset that worldwide to 530 00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:48,400 Speaker 2: bring down gasoline prices at the pump. 531 00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:50,920 Speaker 3: That would be quite a trick. 532 00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:54,600 Speaker 2: If we can do that, the Trump administration can do 533 00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:55,560 Speaker 2: that successfully. 534 00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:58,160 Speaker 9: Well, Hey, here's the other part of the trick that 535 00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:00,720 Speaker 9: I'm starting to look out for is if we actually 536 00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:05,880 Speaker 9: hit fifty dollars oil, will the Trump administration encourage Congress 537 00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:09,560 Speaker 9: to act and fill up the Strategic Petroleum Reserve. 538 00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:13,479 Speaker 2: Yeah, so that's not a decision that the President can 539 00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:16,840 Speaker 2: take as an executive action or his secretary of Energy 540 00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:19,360 Speaker 2: can do that, and that has to you need an 541 00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:20,320 Speaker 2: approval of Congress. 542 00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:22,040 Speaker 3: I mean, fifty dollars at yallon. 543 00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:28,160 Speaker 2: Fifty dollars a barrel, I should say that's a pretty goodbye. 544 00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:33,880 Speaker 9: Absolutely. Now, unfortunately I'm not too well at verse and congressional, 545 00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:36,480 Speaker 9: but I don't believe the president has the power of 546 00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:40,360 Speaker 9: the purse to purchase. So that's going to come through Congress. 547 00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:45,560 Speaker 9: And absolutely fifty dollars is great, like you just said. Unfortunately, 548 00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:52,560 Speaker 9: back in twenty twenty, the Democrat led Congress and Democrat 549 00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:57,200 Speaker 9: led Senate shut down President Trump from trying to fill 550 00:33:57,280 --> 00:34:00,360 Speaker 9: up the Strategic Patrol and Reserve at twenty five dollars oil. 551 00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:03,840 Speaker 9: So if we can actually get it done at fifty. 552 00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:07,960 Speaker 9: That's great because that doesn't really hurt the United States 553 00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:11,440 Speaker 9: economy just you know, at fifty dollars oil like it 554 00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:13,320 Speaker 9: would if we actually dropped at twenty five. 555 00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:14,200 Speaker 3: Yeah. 556 00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:17,040 Speaker 2: I think there was a point in twenty twenty one 557 00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:20,239 Speaker 2: when no one was driving, when the price of a 558 00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:24,040 Speaker 2: barrel of oil actually dropped below zero, and that. 559 00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:29,480 Speaker 3: There were people who were paying not to pull oil 560 00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:30,200 Speaker 3: out of the ground. 561 00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:33,600 Speaker 2: It really got pretty desperate right at the early height 562 00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:34,440 Speaker 2: of COVID. 563 00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:36,480 Speaker 3: I'm sure you know of what I speak. 564 00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:41,359 Speaker 9: Yes, absolutely, And that's what I hope does not happen again. 565 00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:44,480 Speaker 9: We don't need oil that low because then just to 566 00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:48,240 Speaker 9: oil too high hurts the economy. Oil too low hurts 567 00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:49,000 Speaker 9: the economy. 568 00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:52,319 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's kind of a Goldilock story, you know, you know, 569 00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:55,799 Speaker 2: not too hot, not too cold, just right, not too high, 570 00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:59,240 Speaker 2: not so low. Keep it in that zone and maybe 571 00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:03,560 Speaker 2: fifty forty five dollars a barrel so you guys can 572 00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:06,239 Speaker 2: actually spend, you know, can pump it out of the 573 00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:10,399 Speaker 2: ground and keep the supply going and keep those prices down. 574 00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:13,319 Speaker 2: Ray Travino, thank you so much. As always, we'll have 575 00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:15,400 Speaker 2: to have you back as the winter goes on. Okay, 576 00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:18,120 Speaker 2: I appreciate your talk to you all the time. Thank you, sir, 577 00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:21,839 Speaker 2: Thank you, sir. I'll have a great one when we 578 00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:24,560 Speaker 2: get back. We're going to talk about a zoning battle 579 00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:28,080 Speaker 2: in Medford. There's a it's sort of a mini New 580 00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:29,360 Speaker 2: York City battle. 581 00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:31,680 Speaker 3: I'll explain when we get back, right after the nine 582 00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:34,200 Speaker 3: o'clock news. My name is Dan y. This is Nightside