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Speaker 3: Joe Daniman in our number two, fresh off a trip

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Speaker 3: to Goodyear, Arizona, Joe Daneman back here in Cincinnati, and

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Speaker 3: with talkbacks directly after that, a big night ahead locally

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Speaker 3: on the college basketball front, Xavier was supposed to play

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Speaker 3: So tomorrow you get Xavier at Providence. You also get

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Speaker 3: NKU at Cleveland State Tonight. Miami of Ohio twenty first

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Speaker 3: team ranked in the country. They go on the road

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Speaker 3: Cincinnati Bearcats take on the Texas Tech Red Raiders at

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Speaker 3: seven o'clock tonight. So we'll keep you updated with all

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Speaker 3: things college basketball. It's if it's worth it at all.

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Speaker 3: And the only reason I share this is because it

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Speaker 3: was shared by the Great Dan Horde. Is that going

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Speaker 3: into tonight's game Austin, according to Joey Bracketts, according to

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Speaker 3: Joe Lonardi, the Bearcats are officially back on the bubble conversation.

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Speaker 3: They are the last team in the next four out window,

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Speaker 3: so they have now been bumped up to that next

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Speaker 3: Toppin is an opportunity for the Bearcats to build their

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Speaker 3: resume for the bubble. We'll talk more about that as

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Speaker 3: we go this afternoon. Major League Baseball, Chris Sale and

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Speaker 3: the Atlanta Braves have agreed to a twenty seven million

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Speaker 3: dollar extension. We have the buster only shortstop rankings that

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Speaker 3: we can dive into today, as well as yesterday's third

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Speaker 3: base rankings. It is thirty days from opening day. We'll

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Speaker 3: discuss that later on in today's show. And the Reds

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Speaker 3: themselves have a three h five first pitch this afternoon

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Speaker 2: Does it not make sense?

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Speaker 3: The pros, the cons and everything else around that we'll

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Speaker 3: dive into from a Cincinnati Reds point of view today

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Speaker 3: And where the Bengals, our good friend of the show,

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Speaker 3: Joe Goodberry, laid out a mock draft scenario that I

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Speaker 3: have an interesting question as it relates to that and

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Speaker 3: a mock draft from Mel Kuiper. Today, Austin has Caleb

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Speaker 3: Downs going number two overall on the mock draft. We're

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Speaker 3: And this ties in a little bit to what Joe

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Speaker 3: how the Bengals operate in the offseason. Also, Austin passed

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Speaker 3: me this used a printer today Austin.

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Speaker 2: Austin printer on two different stories.

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Speaker 3: Yes, today Austin passed me this from the Cincinnati Business.

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Speaker 2: Courier, normally only on my iPad, that the.

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Speaker 3: Bengals and Visit Sinsey are making a push to host

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Speaker 2: Now. This was a story written by Steve Watkins Steve

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Speaker 2: At least it's coming back around because we're starting to

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Speaker 3: friend of the show, Lance throughout some draft comparisons throughout

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Speaker 3: We also know that the Detroit Lions were playing in

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Speaker 2: Yeah, not new news there about Kirk Cousins. It was

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Speaker 2: That's not a surprise. The Lions going to Munich, that's

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Speaker 2: you know, I don't. I don't necessarily like the World

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Speaker 2: he's just paid. Like I said, it's just in pool play, correct. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: So it's not even in the when you would probably

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Speaker 2: I don't love the lookout of it. My thing, especially

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Speaker 3: Yeah, my thing is very simple. If you're in, then

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Speaker 3: He also said if the US advances to the finals

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Speaker 2: Well thanks, but no thanks. Yeah, I mean he just

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Speaker 3: If those are the reasons, if they're taking away thoughtfully decline.

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Speaker 2: This isn't a coach throwing a challenge flag. This is

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Speaker 2: And in the article written by Kevin Seffert and Mike

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Speaker 3: That was more a part of my draft prep than

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because I think what is like the Rams aren't

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Speaker 3: Sure like that would be the thing, like three later

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Speaker 2: So I posted the clip from our show yesterday talking

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Speaker 2: I know, it felt like you never knew what you

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Speaker 3: We always changed it out now now. Joey Vado recently

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Speaker 3: one as well. We kind of messed around with this before.

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Speaker 3: Is there any traction to moving the fences back at

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Speaker 3: Great American Ballpark?

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Speaker 2: Traction probably not. Does it make sense? Yes, I think so.

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Speaker 2: I don't know what the cost of something like that

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Speaker 2: would be. I don't know how difficult it would be

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Speaker 2: to pull off. But I don't think we're asking you

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Speaker 2: to take out half of the moon deck. No, I

443
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Speaker 2: mean you could keep the current like where the corner

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Speaker 2: where the bullpen is and from there out to center

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Speaker 2: field or they're to the smokestacks. Can you take out

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Speaker 2: one or two rows?

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Speaker 3: Doesn't it feel like there's a ton of home runs

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Speaker 3: that just get to the first or second row at

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Speaker 3: the upper ballpark that specifically yep.

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Speaker 2: So let's say you take out the two rows and

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Speaker 2: you have the fence there, then maybe it becomes a

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Speaker 2: little bit more pitcher friendly. Maybe there's more doubles off

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Speaker 2: the wall and fewer homers. It just becomes more neutral

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Speaker 2: than hit her friendly, not necessarily making it a picture

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Speaker 2: friendly ballpark, but again just more neutral.

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Speaker 3: It's always been interesting the way in which they've built

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Speaker 3: these last couple of years, because the Reds have built

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Speaker 3: the core of this team around pitching, yet have a

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Speaker 3: terrible ballpark to pitch in for pitchers. Like those two

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Speaker 3: things they just don't mesh. Red pitchers in twenty twenty

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Speaker 3: five gave up one hundred and ninety home runs at

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Speaker 3: the ballpark, one ninety five the year before, and the

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Speaker 3: year before that two hundred and twenty two left the ballpark,

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Speaker 3: So if you're building your foundation around pitching, wouldn't it

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Speaker 3: be smart to actually look into that and move the

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Speaker 3: ballpark back a little bit and move the fences back,

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Speaker 3: You would think now that would probably require some spending,

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Speaker 3: and spending Austin is actually a topic of the new

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Speaker 3: MLBPA interim executive director Bruce Meyer, who is storming on

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Speaker 3: the scenes. And from an article that you printed off.

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Speaker 3: The second article you've printed off today is Bruce Meyer

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Speaker 3: throwing a little bit of a jab at the Cincinnati Reds.

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Speaker 2: Sure seems like he is to me.

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Speaker 8: Now.

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Speaker 2: This is an article written by Gordon witten Meyer of Cincinnati,

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Speaker 2: and this was written at twelve twenty five am this morning.

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Speaker 2: Soon Gordon burning the midnight hour, burning the midnight oil.

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Speaker 2: Now he's in Arizona, so I guess technically it was

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Speaker 2: yesterday for him. But you know what's going on anyways,

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Speaker 2: This is a quote from Bruce Meyer. We have access

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Speaker 2: to information, we're not at liberty to share with the media. Okay,

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Speaker 2: but this club made the playoffs last year. They beat

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Speaker 2: out the Mets, who obviously have a much bigger payroll.

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Speaker 2: They have the ability to compete now, and they have

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Speaker 2: the ability to do more, who do you think he's

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Speaker 2: talking about the Cincinnati Reds. Oh, okay, I mean is

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Speaker 2: he wrong? No, he's not. And to Gordon's credit, he

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Speaker 2: starts off by saying, for anyone in Cincinnati who thinks

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Speaker 2: the small market Reds need a salary cap to compete

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Speaker 2: with the bigger revenue clubs, the new boss of the

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Speaker 2: players Union has a swift and firm rebuttal. So he's

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Speaker 2: talking about the Reds quite obviously and says there's He

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Speaker 2: also goes on to say there's no team in baseball

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Speaker 2: that doesn't have the ability to compete. That's Bruce Meyer.

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Speaker 2: I mean he cites I believe the Milwaukee Brewers and

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Speaker 2: their payroll, like I don't their market. Yes, all market.

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Speaker 2: I don't have a problem with us at all. I

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Speaker 2: don't either, and everyone this this kind of word.

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Speaker 3: This goes back to me to the point of what

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Speaker 3: Richard Patino said last week. He's saying the quiet part

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Speaker 3: out loud. Richard Patino talked last week, in the midst

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Speaker 3: of a tough season about quite frankly, we need more

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Speaker 3: money if we're going to get this turned around. Maybe

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Speaker 3: he's not in the position to do that, but Richard

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Speaker 3: Patino last week said the quiet part that everyone knows

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Speaker 3: out loud. I don't think Bruce Meyer is surprising anyone

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Speaker 3: with what he's saying, but more often than not, the

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Speaker 3: Major League Baseball Players Association executive director is probably not

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Speaker 3: going to go down that path. Bruce Meyer's willing to

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Speaker 3: do that. I don't mind it, because it's the quiet

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Speaker 3: part out loud, and it's not taking anyone, you know,

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Speaker 3: by by alone here. Everyone kind of knows that's what

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Speaker 3: it's been.

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Speaker 2: I think the issue is that there is a narrative

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Speaker 2: now around Major League Baseball and around the players, and

516
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Speaker 2: because the Dodgers keep spending and the Mets keep spending,

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Speaker 2: and there's this large market small market conversation always happening,

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Speaker 2: the narrative is that you have to have a salary

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Speaker 2: cap in order to even the playing field. That's a

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Speaker 2: narrative that's coming from Major League Baseball and the owners,

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Speaker 2: and it's not true. And obviously the NFL or the

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Speaker 2: MLBPA president they don't want a salary cap, nor will

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Speaker 2: they ever want a salary cap, and I don't know

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Speaker 2: that they're ever going to get one. But the point

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Speaker 2: he's trying to make here and he says it in

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Speaker 2: the article, is that some fans are of the view

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Speaker 2: that their owners aren't trying hard enough to win. That's

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Speaker 2: the real problem from our standpoint, teams that have the

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Speaker 2: ability to be more competitive and for whatever reason, don't

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Speaker 2: have the incentive to do it or don't have the

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Speaker 2: motivation to do it. Bruce Meyer says, we'll be making

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Speaker 2: proposals designed to try make the make sure the system,

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Speaker 2: including the revenue sharing system, has the right incentives for

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Speaker 2: clubs to win, and not provide any rewards for not competing.

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Speaker 2: My point here is I'm siding with the players because

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Speaker 2: I agree that the salary cap is not the biggest issue.

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Speaker 2: Would I like to see one, Yes, I would, But

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Speaker 2: I don't want another excuse for the owners not to

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Speaker 2: be competitive. There needs to be more stuff built in

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Speaker 2: to pressure incentivize winning and not incentivize losing. Not incentivize

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Speaker 2: all will fill the ballpark. Who cares if we win

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Speaker 2: a bunch of games or not. There are teams like

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Speaker 2: the Reds, and We've been saying this for a long

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Speaker 2: time that can do more and should do more, but

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Speaker 2: choose not to do more. The league and the players

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Speaker 2: Association have to come together with more incentives to discourage

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Speaker 2: not caring about the results and a salary cap. I

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Speaker 2: don't know that that's the biggest issue. It's a desire

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Speaker 2: to actually win and get benefits and profits from that

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Speaker 2: that we just don't see enough in Major League Baseball. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I'm I'm in the same vein here of can the

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Speaker 2: owners do more? Yes, then let's hold them to a

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Speaker 2: higher standard. Just let's let's let's call it what it is.

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Speaker 2: Let's hold this group to a higher standard than what

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Speaker 2: they're being held at. And and again, as you said,

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Speaker 2: incentivize winning. Since the inception of our number three on,

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Speaker 2: since the three sixty, we have constantly used the phrase,

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Speaker 2: and you've used this for a long time. The aggressive

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Speaker 2: pursuit of a championship. That's what this is about, and

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Speaker 2: that's what the players want. And if you're going to

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Speaker 2: openly bring players in without really going all in on

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Speaker 2: trying to win the when when this thing and build

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Speaker 2: a roster that can do that, then then what are

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Speaker 2: you doing At the core of it. It should be about,

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Speaker 2: and it always should be about, the aggressive pursuit of

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Speaker 2: a championship, and call it what it is is.

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Speaker 3: Every team in Major League baseball operating in that sense,

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Speaker 3: I don't think you're going to get a lot of

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Speaker 3: people that say yes. So if they can bring something

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Speaker 3: to the table here that does even the playing field,

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Speaker 3: or that does incentivize winning, or that does push some

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Speaker 3: of these owners who maybe have not pushed their chips

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Speaker 3: to the middle of the table to do so, then

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Speaker 3: I'm all for that.

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Speaker 2: And these negotiations are going to start after the season begins,

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Speaker 2: and it's going to be ugly. And I think we've

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Speaker 2: all kind of said there's no expectation for there to

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Speaker 2: be baseball next year. But I think there's going to

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Speaker 2: be a narrative presented to the fans that it is

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Speaker 2: the player's fault more than it's the owner's fault. That's

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Speaker 2: going to be pushed by base sirl that's going to

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Speaker 2: be pushed by the owners. And as Meyer says in

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Speaker 2: this article as well, there are features of the current

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Speaker 2: system that already provide in his words, enormous support for

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Speaker 2: small market teams. Revenue, the luxury tax proceeds, which are

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Speaker 2: hundreds of millions of dollars, half of that money goes

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Speaker 2: to small market teams, and other support from league revenues

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Speaker 2: that already is in place. This is why we've been

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Speaker 2: saying for so long that the Reds can do more

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Speaker 2: and the small market thing is nonsense. Now, I think

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Speaker 2: what they should do is do what other salary cap

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Speaker 2: leagues do and share all the TV revenue. Now, the

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Speaker 2: Dodgers aren't gonna do the Mets aren't gonna do that.

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Speaker 2: Other teams aren't gonna do that. That I think is

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Speaker 2: the starting point for making everybody happy. But I just

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Speaker 2: don't know that we're we're going to get there.

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Speaker 3: Assault today also that the Braves have launched their own

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Speaker 3: network to air one and forty games.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, if you think about this, other teams have this,

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Speaker 2: the Mets, the Yankees, the Dodgers, the Giants. I think

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Speaker 2: the Texas Rangers did it with theirs as well. There

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Speaker 2: are several teams that have their own television network. The

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Speaker 2: Braves have some people in their ownership group that have already,

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Speaker 2: you know, built TV networks in the past, and so

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Speaker 2: they have a bit of a leg up on some

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Speaker 2: of those. But yeah, they they want to work with

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Speaker 2: the Hawks, they want to work with Atlanta United, they

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Speaker 2: want to work with some of the other professional teams

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Speaker 2: in and around the Atlanta area to kind of push

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Speaker 2: all the chips in one. We'll see how that goes.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, the Braves are launching their own TV network

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Speaker 2: called Brave's Vision, So they're gonna it's gonna be probably

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Speaker 2: almost identical to what the Reds have for this season,

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Speaker 2: and I think they're gonna build it up over the

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Speaker 2: course of time. A break.

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Speaker 3: More on the Reds, more on some of the position

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Speaker 3: groups in Major League Baseball, shortstop and third base. We'll

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Speaker 3: look into those on this the Home of the Bengals,

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Speaker 3: in on some Cincinnati Reds conversations here and then we'll

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Speaker 3: get to Joe Daniman at the top of our number

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Speaker 3: two when we come back from a break here in

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Speaker 3: just a few moments, I want to talk about the

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Speaker 3: pros and cons to a possible six man rotation, but

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Speaker 3: before we get to that, not that it carries a

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Speaker 3: lot of weight, but these lists are fun to keep.

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Speaker 2: An eye on.

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Speaker 3: As the season I would say creeps closer. That's what

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Speaker 3: it feels like at this point, still thirty days away

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Speaker 3: from opening day. But buster Onie we mentioned this last week.

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Speaker 3: He's been going through each position group. Yesterday he did

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Speaker 3: third basement and while there is no red list, that

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Speaker 3: is the top third baseman in the top ten. Jose

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Speaker 3: Ramirez is number one, the new Chicago Cub Alex Bregman

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Speaker 3: checks in at number three, three Bo bashett is at

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Speaker 3: number seven. But the interesting thing here honorable mentions for

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Speaker 3: buster Oni is key Brian Hayes, because he is dominant

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Speaker 3: on the defensive side of the ball. Only points out

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Speaker 3: that he let all third basement and runs saved at

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Speaker 3: nineteen and out's above average at twenty two. And u

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Speaker 3: Henneyosuarez gets an honorable mention at third base from buster

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Speaker 3: Oni as well.

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Speaker 2: If we could just combine their defense and their.

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Speaker 3: Pals, can you imagine that have the greatest third basking

654
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Speaker 3: They would be number one easily. They would have the

655
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Speaker 3: top third basement in all of baseball.

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Speaker 2: By the way, Charlie, who's going to join us on Friday,

657
00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:39,640
Speaker 2: said he's working on I heard him on last night

658
00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:42,400
Speaker 2: with Lance say he's working on a key Brian Hayes

659
00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:46,200
Speaker 2: story about why the Reds really did trade for him

660
00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:49,600
Speaker 2: and what their plan is to fix his offense. Okay,

661
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Speaker 2: looking forward to hearing about that, because you know, no

662
00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:56,480
Speaker 2: pun intended. That could be key, oh to their rights

663
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Speaker 2: if they can get key Brian Hayes to just be

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Speaker 2: I don't know, not horrible at the plate. It's a

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Speaker 2: good way to put it, like he's not horrible. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Like as long as you're not batting one seventeen, Yeah,

667
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Speaker 2: can you bat two twenty five? Take it? Because they did,

668
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Speaker 2: Like there's a reason they traded for him, Yeah, and

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Speaker 2: then made the moves that they made, And it can't

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Speaker 2: just be because he's good at defense.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Maybe they maybe they can unlock something. I'd be

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Speaker 3: excited about that. Maybe they unlocked the back injury.

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Speaker 2: Uh buster.

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Speaker 3: Oni today listed his top ten shortstops, Bobby Witt Junior

675
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Speaker 3: number one, geraldo Perdomo number two, Gunner Henderson three, Lindor Seeger,

676
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Speaker 3: Trey Turner, Jeremy Pania, Mookie Betts comes in at number

677
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Speaker 3: eight and May He's got Ellie de la Cruz at

678
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Speaker 3: number nine. Buster one says this last year, Ellie stole

679
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Speaker 3: thirty seven bases, hit twenty two home runs, scored one

680
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Speaker 3: hundred and two runs, and yet there is an overriding

681
00:37:57,760 --> 00:38:00,000
Speaker 3: feeling that there is more to offering, that the best

682
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Speaker 3: is yet to come, but that mostly needs to come

683
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Speaker 3: from his defense, where he really struggled down the stretch

684
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Speaker 3: in twenty twenty five and led the Majors in airs

685
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Speaker 3: for a second consecutive year. Ranking this high is still

686
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Speaker 3: based on potential because there are more reliable shortstops out there,

687
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Speaker 3: but being so young, this is an important year of

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Speaker 3: development ahead. Uh the injury, which is not mentioned by

689
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Speaker 3: busteromy down the stretch I think weight into this as well.

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Speaker 3: Have we talked enough about the struggles defensively and where

691
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Speaker 3: Ellie will be on that in the off season.

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Speaker 2: Every time we talk about it, we're told that it

693
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Speaker 2: was the quad injury that made him right, but it

694
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Speaker 2: was back to back years of leading the majors. Yeah. No,

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Speaker 2: I know. I keep shout it down every time we

696
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Speaker 2: talk about his defense. Ah well he was hurt, or

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Speaker 2: oh well he's young. Okay, well this is a year

698
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Speaker 2: where I need to do to step up.

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Speaker 3: We have that to Charlie last week, and Charlie Caven

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Speaker 3: said disease, well, a lot of that they view as

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Speaker 3: injury related.

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Speaker 2: I'm saying I don't want them to view that anymore.

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Speaker 2: What do you say, there are no excuses? We see

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Speaker 2: better then we well, our good friend Marvin Lewis yes

705
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Speaker 2: to say that you see better than you. Hear well,

706
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Speaker 2: I need to see what I need to see a

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Speaker 2: better Ellie at shortstop. I bet Marvin would agree.

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Speaker 3: I think Marvin, being a defensive guy, I think Marvin

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Speaker 3: could get the job done.

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Speaker 2: No more excuses, right like the I mean, dude's been

711
00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:19,040
Speaker 2: a big league since twenty twenty three. You're an athletic freak.

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00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:22,040
Speaker 2: You've had a healthy offseason. Your quad is not an

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Speaker 2: issue anymore. You've had hundreds and hundreds of innings at

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Speaker 2: shortstop in the big leagues. You can't screw it up anymore.

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Speaker 2: Are there any shortstops on that list that his ceiling

716
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Speaker 2: is not higher than from a total player. I think

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Speaker 2: Bobby WIT's the best. Yeah, I don't know that. I'd

718
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Speaker 2: say he's better than Bobby Witt. Who are the other guys? Uh,

719
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Speaker 2: Geraldo Podomo, I don't know enough about him. Gunner Henderson

720
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Speaker 2: incredibly high ceiling. I don't know that it's higher than Elias.

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Speaker 3: How about in Baltimore's wins Henderson slash three thirty one

722
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Speaker 3: four to seventeen five fifty nine and his losses and

723
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Speaker 3: their losses to twenty six to eighty seven three thirty eight.

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Speaker 2: I mean, without a doubt, he's a monster. If he

725
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Speaker 2: has Pete Alonzo in the lineup, that could help him

726
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Speaker 2: a lot.

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Speaker 3: But like I think, at this point in his career,

728
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Speaker 3: Ellie's ceiling is higher than Lindor. Yeah, it's higher than

729
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Speaker 3: Corey Seeger. But I will say, I mean, those are

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Speaker 3: very very high ceilings to have reached, correct, I mean.

731
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Speaker 2: And they've been consistent at that level. World choliber player. Sure, Uh,

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Speaker 2: let's take a break. We'll finish up hour ago. One

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Speaker 2: thing for you when we come back, We're good. You

734
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Speaker 2: want to know what it is? What is it? Oh boy,

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Speaker 2: We've got a Red's lineup today. Tom, It's been a

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Speaker 2: long time. Let's make this a quick break.

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Speaker 3: We'll do that next on ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station, WC.

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Speaker 1: Tony Pike, Sincy three sixty continues now on ESPN fifteen

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Speaker 1: to thirty.

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Speaker 3: Welcome back, it is since he three to sixty ESPN

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Speaker 3: fifteen thirty, Cincinnati Sports Station. Thanks to our friends at

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Speaker 3: Skyline Chill. You mentioned something Austin that was a welcome sound.

743
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Speaker 3: For the first time in a long time. You mentioned

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Speaker 3: that we have a Reds lineup for this afternoon. Play

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Speaker 3: it again. There it is, there, it is.

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Speaker 2: That's right, Tone, Red Legs back in action. Cactus League

747
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Speaker 2: play today. It is a three to five first pitch

748
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Speaker 2: in goodyear Arizona Red's keep playing home games. I don't

749
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Speaker 2: know if they're going to travel outside a good year

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Speaker 2: at all, but they take on the Kansas City Royals

751
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Speaker 2: this afternoon, and this lineup right here, Tone very well

752
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Speaker 2: could be what we see on opening day. This, I

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Speaker 2: think is as close as it gets. Let me write

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Speaker 2: this down. This is how it goes. Leading off, the

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Speaker 2: designated hitter TJ. Friedel, The second batter is second baseman

756
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Speaker 2: Matt McClain sure batting third. The short stop Ellie Dela Cruz.

757
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Speaker 2: The cleanup hitter is third baseman a you Hanio Suarez

758
00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:14,800
Speaker 2: batting fifth. The first baseman Spencer Steer, Will Benson bat sixth.

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Speaker 2: He's the left fielder. The seventh batter is catcher Tyler

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Speaker 2: Stevenson batting eighth and playing right field No.

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Speaker 4: L V.

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Speaker 2: Marte. The ninth batter and centerfielder is Dane Myers with

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Speaker 2: lefty Andrew Abbott on the mound. Okay, once more for Cincinnati,

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Speaker 2: that's friedol McLean Dla Cruz, Suarez, Steer, Benson, Stevenson, Marte

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Speaker 2: Myers with Abbott on the mound. That sounds like the

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Speaker 2: first win of spring training. I mean, hard to say otherwise. Now,

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Speaker 2: I don't know much about what the Royals got going.

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Speaker 2: They lose this one today, panic mode. I'd like to

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Speaker 2: see for sure what pictures the Reds are going to

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Speaker 2: be facing today. Michael Wacha, oh, long time at Saint

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Speaker 2: Saint Louis Cardinal Michael Michael Waka is gonna be on

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Speaker 2: the mound for the Royals. They're also going to be

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Speaker 2: going up against Jack Caglioni, also known as CAGs. Top

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Speaker 2: prospect for the Royals, can be in right field. Today,

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Speaker 2: I do not see Jonathan India as part of the lineup.

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Speaker 2: By the way, India back to be in a full

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Speaker 2: time second baseman for Kansas City. There we go, and

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Speaker 2: uh yeah, I mean obviously the Reds can be facing

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Speaker 2: a left hander on opening day, So I don't know

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Speaker 2: that Will Benson is going to be in the lineup.

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Speaker 2: I would imagine Spencer Steer will be in left that day,

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Speaker 2: and uh South Stuart will probably be at first base.

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Speaker 2: Suarez would be the d H Freedom would be in

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Speaker 2: center and so on. Okay, we might.

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Speaker 3: Guess before we get to Joe Daneman. Sometimes we pull

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Speaker 3: out this date in Cincinnati sports history. Do you know

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Speaker 3: what happened on this day? Ten years ago?

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Speaker 2: February twenty fourth, twenty sixteen, H No, I don't.

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Speaker 3: The fifth ranked Xavier Musketeers knocked off the nation's number

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Speaker 3: one ranked team, the Villanova Wildcats. The Muskies and at

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Speaker 3: that time a record crowd at the Centas Center of

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Speaker 3: ten thousand, seven hundred and twenty seven. It remains the

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Speaker 3: program's last win over a number one team in the

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Speaker 3: eight peopole nice that was the number five ranked Muskies,

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Speaker 3: number five versus Number one.

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Speaker 2: What a night simpler times.

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Speaker 3: What an atmosphere, what a moment, and what a way

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Speaker 3: to finish up our number one. Joe Daniman standing by

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Speaker 3: Joey to join us. Next, I'm gonna pull up map

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Speaker 3: Quest and I'm gonna look and try to matches what

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Speaker 3: year is it?

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Speaker 2: Ten years ago?

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna go to mapqu West and I'm going to

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Speaker 3: try to guess how far into his trip to Lubbock,

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Speaker 3: Texas Joe Daniman is when he joins us next, Oh

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Speaker 3: my god, I would imagine he's on the road. We'll

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Speaker 3: find out where next with Joe Daniman from Fox nineteen

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Speaker 3: on ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station still u c k.

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Speaker 9: Y Cincinnati, make us the number one pre sent on

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Speaker 9: your car radio and on the free new and improved

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Speaker 9: iHeartRadio app. Free never sounded so good, ESPN fifteen.

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Speaker 2: Thirty Shop Presidents, This is.

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Speaker 1: Tony Pike Cincy three sixty about Cincinnati. From Cincinnati. This

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Speaker 1: is ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station.

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Speaker 3: All right, welcome back sincey three sixty hour two on

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Speaker 3: a Tuesday afternoon underway, which means there's only one place

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Speaker 3: we go. It's to the phone lines. It's to connect

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Speaker 3: with Fox nineteen zone. Joe Daniman standing by to join

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Speaker 3: us right now, Joey D.

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Speaker 2: What's going on, gentlemen?

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Speaker 7: Hi Tony, Hi Austin. How's your Tuesday?

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Speaker 3: It's rat's great so far Joe? How far into the drive?

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Speaker 3: What time are you expected to arrive in Lubbock for

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Speaker 3: tonight's game?

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Speaker 7: Just now passing through Little Rock? Okay and debating having

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Speaker 7: lunch in Little Rock and see if it rains and

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Speaker 7: I get my first look out of Tommy Tubberville, Arkansas

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Speaker 7: road Straggler. Expected to be in Lubbock right at tip

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Speaker 7: time with live coverage on Fox nineteen now tonight after

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Speaker 7: the game.

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Speaker 3: Here we go, Here we go. You spend time and goodyear.

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Speaker 3: I'm sure it always goes too fast, But in the

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Speaker 3: time you were able to be around this team, and

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Speaker 3: last week we talked a little bit about the feel

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Speaker 3: and the way in which they carry themselves. What else

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Speaker 3: did you walk away with your time and goodyear around

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Speaker 3: this Reds ball club?

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Speaker 7: Here's what I walked away with. The Reds are good.

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Speaker 7: And you can laugh at that and say, yeah, we

840
00:46:58,400 --> 00:47:01,680
Speaker 7: all know this a good roster. It's the best roster

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Speaker 7: I've seen in a while in Cincinnati, and the question

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Speaker 7: is how good? Are they that good? The question is

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Speaker 7: are they good enough to win a National League Central

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Speaker 7: title or compete for it? Are they good enough to

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Speaker 7: win a playoffs series? Are they that good? I walked

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Speaker 7: away feeling yes, when they're healthy as they are now,

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Speaker 7: they are constructed in a way that I believe that

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Speaker 7: they should have the expectation they should be held to

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Speaker 7: a standard of not just making the playoffs, but now

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Speaker 7: competing for division championships in what is a good division,

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Speaker 7: and also the expectation and standard that this team should

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Speaker 7: be looked at as a team that can do some

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Speaker 7: damage in the playoffs. When you look at the starting rotation,

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00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:47,080
Speaker 7: when you look at what they've done in the bullpen,

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Speaker 7: when you look at the additions they've made, and the

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Speaker 7: expected steps from guys within the organization who have been

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Speaker 7: groomed by this organization, I think the expectation is, yes,

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Speaker 7: they are that good, good enough to win the NATS

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Speaker 7: the League Central. I didn't know that until I saw it,

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Speaker 7: and when you're around it, you see it and you

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Speaker 7: feel it. I think that should be the standard for

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Speaker 7: the Reds in twenty twenty six.

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Speaker 3: What question or questions do you still need answered between

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Speaker 3: now and opening Day?

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Speaker 7: Is Matt McLain good enough to hit second? Because Terry

866
00:48:19,840 --> 00:48:23,200
Speaker 7: Francona wants that to happen, and I understand why. He

867
00:48:23,360 --> 00:48:27,680
Speaker 7: profiles perfectly for that spot. He's a right handed bat

868
00:48:27,719 --> 00:48:30,480
Speaker 7: that can break up whatever a team wants to do

869
00:48:30,600 --> 00:48:33,520
Speaker 7: with their bullpen of bringing in a left hander to

870
00:48:33,640 --> 00:48:37,040
Speaker 7: attack TJ. Spriedle and make Ellie hit from the right side.

871
00:48:37,239 --> 00:48:40,080
Speaker 7: He's a right handed hitter who's supposed to be a

872
00:48:40,120 --> 00:48:42,919
Speaker 7: contact hitter or a line drive hitter. He struck out

873
00:48:42,960 --> 00:48:46,799
Speaker 7: too much. He hasn't got on base enough. And my

874
00:48:46,920 --> 00:48:51,879
Speaker 7: biggest thing is this, if Matt Clain, the All Star hitter,

875
00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:54,880
Speaker 7: is still somewhere inside of him, and I still believe

876
00:48:54,920 --> 00:48:57,840
Speaker 7: he has that kind of a ceiling, I'm not sure

877
00:48:57,920 --> 00:49:01,160
Speaker 7: if there's anything he can do in spring to convince

878
00:49:01,200 --> 00:49:03,839
Speaker 7: me that the Reds should start the season with him

879
00:49:03,880 --> 00:49:08,760
Speaker 7: hitting second. We saw last year literally every single game matters,

880
00:49:09,320 --> 00:49:11,479
Speaker 7: and so I would want to see what Matt does

881
00:49:11,560 --> 00:49:13,960
Speaker 7: the first few weeks of the season, maybe with some

882
00:49:14,120 --> 00:49:17,759
Speaker 7: pressure off hitting lower in the lineup, before throwing him

883
00:49:17,800 --> 00:49:22,240
Speaker 7: in there. Game one against the high strikeout pitcher knowing

884
00:49:22,280 --> 00:49:24,200
Speaker 7: what he just came off last year, I think I

885
00:49:24,200 --> 00:49:27,600
Speaker 7: would rather see Spencer Steer hitting second to start the season.

886
00:49:28,080 --> 00:49:31,560
Speaker 7: I would even argue maybe Noelvie Marte hitting second, But

887
00:49:31,960 --> 00:49:34,600
Speaker 7: certainly I think I want to see Matt and what

888
00:49:34,719 --> 00:49:38,800
Speaker 7: he does an actual big league regular season games before

889
00:49:38,840 --> 00:49:41,160
Speaker 7: I would move him the second Again. Kerry wants him

890
00:49:41,160 --> 00:49:43,560
Speaker 7: to hit there, and I understand why it's the perfect

891
00:49:43,640 --> 00:49:46,480
Speaker 7: profile to put someone there with his base running ability

892
00:49:46,800 --> 00:49:50,480
Speaker 7: in his other attributes, But until I see it consistently

893
00:49:50,560 --> 00:49:53,560
Speaker 7: for a few weeks in real games, I'm not sure

894
00:49:53,600 --> 00:49:55,640
Speaker 7: I want to put that pressure on him there, and

895
00:49:55,680 --> 00:49:57,960
Speaker 7: I'm not sure I wanted to put him intoch a

896
00:49:58,080 --> 00:50:00,560
Speaker 7: high leverage position this early of the season.

897
00:50:01,080 --> 00:50:03,680
Speaker 3: How much of Matt McClain's success would you weigh on

898
00:50:04,239 --> 00:50:07,440
Speaker 3: the possibility of switching to the long pants instead of

899
00:50:07,480 --> 00:50:09,120
Speaker 3: the pants that are that are rotting up?

900
00:50:10,239 --> 00:50:12,600
Speaker 7: Eighty percent of it, yeah, eighty percent of it. The

901
00:50:12,640 --> 00:50:17,520
Speaker 7: other the other twenty percent his mental approach to it.

902
00:50:17,560 --> 00:50:19,560
Speaker 7: I did find it interesting when I talked to Matt

903
00:50:19,600 --> 00:50:22,319
Speaker 7: out there, and I'll pull the curtain back a little bit.

904
00:50:22,360 --> 00:50:24,759
Speaker 7: You usually don't get a lot from that, and he

905
00:50:24,800 --> 00:50:27,279
Speaker 7: doesn't give you a lot. He's a fun guy to

906
00:50:27,320 --> 00:50:29,840
Speaker 7: talk to. He's very approachable. He just doesn't give you

907
00:50:29,920 --> 00:50:33,080
Speaker 7: a lot of interviews. But what he said about what

908
00:50:33,360 --> 00:50:36,359
Speaker 7: happened to him last year, and you know, it's one

909
00:50:36,400 --> 00:50:38,880
Speaker 7: of those things you can say it and it sounds

910
00:50:38,880 --> 00:50:41,399
Speaker 7: great to say it, but can you go out there

911
00:50:41,400 --> 00:50:45,160
Speaker 7: and actually do it in a game? He said, missing

912
00:50:45,320 --> 00:50:50,520
Speaker 7: an entire season of baseball, sometimes you hang up the

913
00:50:50,640 --> 00:50:54,600
Speaker 7: competitive spirit in a closet and just work on rehab,

914
00:50:55,239 --> 00:50:58,360
Speaker 7: and you get so in tune with what you're doing

915
00:50:58,440 --> 00:51:01,280
Speaker 7: with trying to get your boy he back and ready

916
00:51:01,320 --> 00:51:04,120
Speaker 7: to play. Uh, that that you forget to open the

917
00:51:04,160 --> 00:51:07,120
Speaker 7: closet door and find a competitive spirit and put it

918
00:51:07,160 --> 00:51:09,880
Speaker 7: back in yourself. And he talked last year about the

919
00:51:09,960 --> 00:51:13,960
Speaker 7: idea of going to the plate and feeling healthy and

920
00:51:14,640 --> 00:51:19,360
Speaker 7: trying to perfect his swing right, something that he could repeat,

921
00:51:19,800 --> 00:51:23,800
Speaker 7: use and and repeat over years instead of just going

922
00:51:23,880 --> 00:51:26,440
Speaker 7: up to the plate and just being a gamer.

923
00:51:26,840 --> 00:51:27,040
Speaker 8: Uh.

924
00:51:27,080 --> 00:51:30,120
Speaker 7: Something that's gotten him to where he's been at this

925
00:51:30,239 --> 00:51:32,879
Speaker 7: point is just being a competitive baseball player, the kind

926
00:51:32,880 --> 00:51:35,520
Speaker 7: of guy that will will do whatever it takes to win,

927
00:51:35,560 --> 00:51:38,440
Speaker 7: whether that's in the field, in the batter's box. And

928
00:51:38,480 --> 00:51:41,399
Speaker 7: he said once he locked into that, and he said

929
00:51:41,400 --> 00:51:43,319
Speaker 7: he felt that for a couple of months. If you

930
00:51:43,320 --> 00:51:45,439
Speaker 7: go back and look last year, he had a two

931
00:51:45,440 --> 00:51:47,400
Speaker 7: month stretch in June and July that he was pretty

932
00:51:47,440 --> 00:51:50,799
Speaker 7: darn productive and helped this team win games. Uh, if

933
00:51:50,840 --> 00:51:53,760
Speaker 7: he can tap into that and have a full season

934
00:51:53,800 --> 00:51:57,880
Speaker 7: of of just being a grinder, a competitive baseball player,

935
00:51:57,920 --> 00:52:00,320
Speaker 7: and and and able to find whatever it is that

936
00:52:00,440 --> 00:52:03,759
Speaker 7: helps him lock back in. Yeah, the pants are a

937
00:52:03,760 --> 00:52:07,719
Speaker 7: big deal, but I think him finding whatever trigger that

938
00:52:07,960 --> 00:52:10,520
Speaker 7: is that helped him flip that switch last year is

939
00:52:10,560 --> 00:52:13,040
Speaker 7: probably the bigger deal for him in twenty twenty six.

940
00:52:14,680 --> 00:52:16,560
Speaker 2: When you look at the pitching rotation.

941
00:52:16,680 --> 00:52:18,759
Speaker 3: We've talked a lot about Andrew Abbott, We've talked about

942
00:52:18,840 --> 00:52:21,719
Speaker 3: Hunter Green and the rest of this rotation, but in

943
00:52:21,800 --> 00:52:25,000
Speaker 3: talking to Charlie on Frodday, it feels like Chase Burns

944
00:52:25,080 --> 00:52:28,160
Speaker 3: is just carrying himself a different way. Did you have

945
00:52:28,200 --> 00:52:31,160
Speaker 3: any interaction or do you have any takeaways from spending

946
00:52:31,200 --> 00:52:33,560
Speaker 3: time watching Chase Burns throughout spring training?

947
00:52:34,680 --> 00:52:37,360
Speaker 7: It was quite literally the most impressive player to me

948
00:52:37,480 --> 00:52:39,600
Speaker 7: in the four days I was at Red spring training.

949
00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:43,200
Speaker 7: And I use the word competitive fire, competitive spirit. With

950
00:52:43,200 --> 00:52:47,839
Speaker 7: Matt McClain the way Chase Burns carried himself on the

951
00:52:47,880 --> 00:52:51,120
Speaker 7: mound in a live batting practice against his teammates, and

952
00:52:51,239 --> 00:52:54,719
Speaker 7: just one session I saw looked like a guy that

953
00:52:54,920 --> 00:52:58,080
Speaker 7: was throwing in a playoff game or throwing in a

954
00:52:58,120 --> 00:53:02,160
Speaker 7: late September game. That that kind of demeanor and the

955
00:53:02,200 --> 00:53:05,839
Speaker 7: way he carried himself on the mound. I think this

956
00:53:05,920 --> 00:53:09,920
Speaker 7: whole debate for the fifth rotation spot is a fun

957
00:53:10,000 --> 00:53:13,520
Speaker 7: talking point and a good debate, and a hat tip

958
00:53:13,560 --> 00:53:16,080
Speaker 7: to both Rhet Louder and Brandon Williamson, two guys this

959
00:53:16,160 --> 00:53:18,240
Speaker 7: team is going to need over one hundred and sixty

960
00:53:18,280 --> 00:53:21,520
Speaker 7: two game season. But it's like Vince Carter in the

961
00:53:21,600 --> 00:53:24,880
Speaker 7: NBA Dunk Contest. It's like the throat slash. Now it's over.

962
00:53:25,280 --> 00:53:28,319
Speaker 7: After I saw that one session from Chase Burns, I said,

963
00:53:28,320 --> 00:53:32,240
Speaker 7: this guy's different, the way he's approaching it, the stuff,

964
00:53:32,960 --> 00:53:35,399
Speaker 7: the addition of a change up. We'll see how much

965
00:53:35,400 --> 00:53:37,759
Speaker 7: of a weapon that becomes for him this year if

966
00:53:37,760 --> 00:53:40,560
Speaker 7: he masters it or even gets it to a point

967
00:53:40,560 --> 00:53:44,000
Speaker 7: where it becomes just a third pitch for him. Good

968
00:53:44,080 --> 00:53:47,160
Speaker 7: luck to hitters in Major League Baseball trying to figure

969
00:53:47,239 --> 00:53:49,800
Speaker 7: him out with him throwing one hundred and one hundred

970
00:53:49,800 --> 00:53:51,839
Speaker 7: and two miles per hour and then adding a change

971
00:53:51,920 --> 00:53:55,040
Speaker 7: up on top of it. So the whole idea that

972
00:53:55,120 --> 00:53:57,839
Speaker 7: Chase Burns is fighting for a fifth spot. I think

973
00:53:57,880 --> 00:54:01,359
Speaker 7: the narrative should change. Could Burns be one of these

974
00:54:01,400 --> 00:54:03,920
Speaker 7: guys at the end of the season as the regimen

975
00:54:03,920 --> 00:54:05,799
Speaker 7: of the playoff series, that he should be in the

976
00:54:05,840 --> 00:54:09,920
Speaker 7: playoff rotation Because you're looking right now, if you're in

977
00:54:09,920 --> 00:54:13,239
Speaker 7: a first round series, you know, and you have three pitchers,

978
00:54:13,400 --> 00:54:15,360
Speaker 7: should Chase Burns be one of those three guys? You

979
00:54:15,360 --> 00:54:19,240
Speaker 7: would say, no, it's Hunter Abbot Lodolo if everybody's healthy.

980
00:54:19,280 --> 00:54:20,799
Speaker 7: But I think by the end of the year, I

981
00:54:20,800 --> 00:54:24,319
Speaker 7: would not be shocked if Chase Burns is one of

982
00:54:24,320 --> 00:54:27,480
Speaker 7: his team's top three pitchers, maybe even top two pitchers.

983
00:54:27,480 --> 00:54:30,360
Speaker 7: Now we'll see how many innings we'll see if he

984
00:54:30,440 --> 00:54:33,320
Speaker 7: throws the you know, the full complement of thirty starts.

985
00:54:33,560 --> 00:54:36,440
Speaker 7: I think that's probably a little bit far fetched to

986
00:54:36,480 --> 00:54:38,879
Speaker 7: think that'll happen. But from what I saw, I think

987
00:54:38,960 --> 00:54:42,680
Speaker 7: he's closer to top three in the rotation than he

988
00:54:42,800 --> 00:54:45,759
Speaker 7: is actually competing to be in the rotation. And I

989
00:54:45,760 --> 00:54:48,840
Speaker 7: think that's because of how ready he was at spring

990
00:54:48,920 --> 00:54:51,600
Speaker 7: training On top of the talent he already.

991
00:54:51,280 --> 00:54:55,640
Speaker 3: Has you mentioned Williamson and Rhet Louder. Do you think

992
00:54:55,680 --> 00:55:00,160
Speaker 3: there was ever or has been ever a stought of

993
00:55:00,239 --> 00:55:03,759
Speaker 3: entertaining a six man rotation or has that never been

994
00:55:03,760 --> 00:55:04,800
Speaker 3: an option in your opinion?

995
00:55:05,760 --> 00:55:07,799
Speaker 7: You know, I don't know if it's been talked about

996
00:55:07,880 --> 00:55:12,239
Speaker 7: within the organization. I wouldn't want to do it just because, look,

997
00:55:12,280 --> 00:55:15,600
Speaker 7: when you construct a lineup in baseball, and we talked

998
00:55:15,600 --> 00:55:18,920
Speaker 7: about the Red lineup earlier in this conversation and the

999
00:55:19,000 --> 00:55:21,440
Speaker 7: idea of who to hit second, it's not just to

1000
00:55:21,480 --> 00:55:24,799
Speaker 7: break up TJ. Friedo and Ellie da Cruz. You want

1001
00:55:24,800 --> 00:55:26,840
Speaker 7: your best hitters at the top of the lineup to

1002
00:55:26,880 --> 00:55:29,359
Speaker 7: give them as many chances at the play to help

1003
00:55:29,400 --> 00:55:32,160
Speaker 7: you win a game. And again, if you go back

1004
00:55:32,200 --> 00:55:34,279
Speaker 7: to look at what we expect to be a very

1005
00:55:34,360 --> 00:55:37,680
Speaker 7: highly competitive National League Central, and even if the Reds

1006
00:55:37,680 --> 00:55:40,560
Speaker 7: don't make this Central, a very highly competitive National League

1007
00:55:40,560 --> 00:55:44,319
Speaker 7: Wild Card race, every win matters, every game matters. And

1008
00:55:44,320 --> 00:55:46,240
Speaker 7: if you're going to go to a six man rotation

1009
00:55:46,760 --> 00:55:49,839
Speaker 7: and take away five starts from Hunter Green and take

1010
00:55:49,880 --> 00:55:53,160
Speaker 7: away potentially five starts from Andrew Abbott and take away

1011
00:55:53,200 --> 00:55:56,080
Speaker 7: five starts from Nick Lodolo and Brady Singer. I don't

1012
00:55:56,120 --> 00:55:56,839
Speaker 7: want to do that.

1013
00:55:56,960 --> 00:55:57,200
Speaker 2: Now.

1014
00:55:57,600 --> 00:56:00,319
Speaker 7: The argument would be, sure, you can have a better

1015
00:56:00,440 --> 00:56:03,200
Speaker 7: chance of keeping those guys healthy and fresh late into

1016
00:56:03,200 --> 00:56:06,239
Speaker 7: the season. But these guys are trained for this, they're

1017
00:56:06,239 --> 00:56:08,520
Speaker 7: built for this. This is what they've done their entire

1018
00:56:08,560 --> 00:56:12,080
Speaker 7: professional career is go on four days rest and then

1019
00:56:12,120 --> 00:56:15,000
Speaker 7: be ready on a fifth day. So, while I get

1020
00:56:15,000 --> 00:56:18,440
Speaker 7: it it's a cool thing to have seven guys, and

1021
00:56:18,480 --> 00:56:20,560
Speaker 7: it's a bit of a flex to say we can

1022
00:56:20,600 --> 00:56:23,400
Speaker 7: go to a six men rotation and perhaps take some

1023
00:56:23,480 --> 00:56:25,279
Speaker 7: of the wear and tear off of a Hunter Green

1024
00:56:25,360 --> 00:56:28,359
Speaker 7: and an Andrew Abbot as the season goes. But if

1025
00:56:28,400 --> 00:56:31,560
Speaker 7: you're in September, in your three games back and you

1026
00:56:31,600 --> 00:56:33,799
Speaker 7: had gone to a six man rotation, and wonder what

1027
00:56:33,840 --> 00:56:36,279
Speaker 7: would have happened if if Hunter Green would have had

1028
00:56:36,440 --> 00:56:38,719
Speaker 7: three or four more starts or Andrew Abbott three or

1029
00:56:38,719 --> 00:56:40,879
Speaker 7: four more starts, You're gonna kick yourself because of your

1030
00:56:40,920 --> 00:56:43,640
Speaker 7: all star level pitchers. I want those guys to have

1031
00:56:43,719 --> 00:56:47,800
Speaker 7: as many opportunities to help me win as possible, and

1032
00:56:47,920 --> 00:56:50,879
Speaker 7: going to a six man rotation with short circuit that.

1033
00:56:51,120 --> 00:56:53,920
Speaker 2: Talking to Joe Danaman Fox nineteen, Joe, as you know

1034
00:56:54,120 --> 00:56:57,959
Speaker 2: today is the second Duke Tobin day of the year

1035
00:56:59,000 --> 00:57:01,400
Speaker 2: as he talks to the met later this afternoon, I

1036
00:57:01,440 --> 00:57:04,080
Speaker 2: know that the Jeremy is going to be there. What

1037
00:57:04,120 --> 00:57:06,439
Speaker 2: would you ask Duke Tobin today? What do you want

1038
00:57:06,440 --> 00:57:09,959
Speaker 2: to know from the Bengals director of player personnel today

1039
00:57:09,960 --> 00:57:10,759
Speaker 2: at the combine?

1040
00:57:11,600 --> 00:57:15,120
Speaker 7: It's so interesting because, yeah, this is typically the big

1041
00:57:15,200 --> 00:57:18,200
Speaker 7: day when you're loaded with thirty questions for Duke Tobin

1042
00:57:18,360 --> 00:57:20,600
Speaker 7: to try to get some answers to, or at least

1043
00:57:20,600 --> 00:57:22,680
Speaker 7: try to read between the lines to figure out what

1044
00:57:22,720 --> 00:57:25,760
Speaker 7: the Bengals are thinking, what they're doing, and kind of

1045
00:57:25,800 --> 00:57:28,480
Speaker 7: rehashing what happened last season. But we've already done an

1046
00:57:28,560 --> 00:57:30,880
Speaker 7: hour's worth of that with Duke Tobin, so it feels

1047
00:57:30,880 --> 00:57:35,120
Speaker 7: a little bit different. So with someone with the opportunity

1048
00:57:35,200 --> 00:57:38,200
Speaker 7: to get in front of Duke Tobin and ask him questions,

1049
00:57:38,520 --> 00:57:40,640
Speaker 7: I think Bengals fans want to move this forward a

1050
00:57:40,680 --> 00:57:43,439
Speaker 7: little bit and start addressing some things now that can

1051
00:57:43,520 --> 00:57:46,400
Speaker 7: be addressed now, And I think topic number one for

1052
00:57:46,520 --> 00:57:49,960
Speaker 7: Duke Tobin would be is there any clarity on what

1053
00:57:50,040 --> 00:57:52,240
Speaker 7: this team is going to do with Trey Hendrickson in

1054
00:57:52,280 --> 00:57:55,440
Speaker 7: the coming weeks? Because on the table right now are

1055
00:57:55,520 --> 00:57:58,440
Speaker 7: multiple options for Trey Hendrickson and the Bengals. I think

1056
00:57:58,920 --> 00:58:01,680
Speaker 7: everybody listening to this kind of has the same idea

1057
00:58:01,680 --> 00:58:04,160
Speaker 7: as I do that Trey Henderson won't be a Bengal

1058
00:58:04,240 --> 00:58:06,919
Speaker 7: next season. But what will that form look like? Will

1059
00:58:06,920 --> 00:58:10,080
Speaker 7: it be letting him walk, will it be a tag

1060
00:58:10,120 --> 00:58:14,480
Speaker 7: in trade. I don't know what the Bengals plans are,

1061
00:58:14,520 --> 00:58:16,640
Speaker 7: and I'm not sure Duke Cobin is going to give

1062
00:58:16,720 --> 00:58:19,120
Speaker 7: us an answer today, but he has in the past

1063
00:58:19,200 --> 00:58:22,720
Speaker 7: addressed these kinds of moments and these kinds of questions

1064
00:58:22,760 --> 00:58:25,200
Speaker 7: with more clarity than we expected, going back to what

1065
00:58:25,320 --> 00:58:28,240
Speaker 7: t Higgins did, get your own wide receiver or we

1066
00:58:28,320 --> 00:58:31,720
Speaker 7: tag him with the intention to play him. So he

1067
00:58:31,840 --> 00:58:34,720
Speaker 7: has given us answers before. I think that's the important

1068
00:58:35,360 --> 00:58:38,160
Speaker 7: Number one question is what will this team do with

1069
00:58:38,240 --> 00:58:40,920
Speaker 7: Trey Hendrickson even if we don't believe he'll be a

1070
00:58:40,920 --> 00:58:43,120
Speaker 7: Cincinnati Bengal next season? And I think a lot of

1071
00:58:43,160 --> 00:58:46,480
Speaker 7: Bengals fans are wondering about Dalton Reisner. What's going on

1072
00:58:46,560 --> 00:58:48,880
Speaker 7: with him? Why hasn't it been taken care of yet?

1073
00:58:49,440 --> 00:58:51,800
Speaker 7: Is this Dalton's choice to test the market a little

1074
00:58:51,800 --> 00:58:55,240
Speaker 7: bit in free agency with ultimately intention to sign with

1075
00:58:55,280 --> 00:58:57,640
Speaker 7: the Bengals and maybe raise his price tag a little bit,

1076
00:58:57,760 --> 00:59:00,280
Speaker 7: or can the Bengals just hit him with the d

1077
00:59:00,280 --> 00:59:02,360
Speaker 7: that knocks his socks off and he wants to come

1078
00:59:02,400 --> 00:59:05,720
Speaker 7: play in Cincinnati. He's already said that publicly, so I

1079
00:59:05,760 --> 00:59:07,800
Speaker 7: think it's trying to find a little bit of clarity

1080
00:59:07,880 --> 00:59:12,040
Speaker 7: on what's going on with Trey Hendrickson and if anything

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00:59:12,320 --> 00:59:15,040
Speaker 7: is imminent with Dalton Reisner, because I think those are

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Speaker 7: the two players that Bangals fans are looking forward to

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00:59:17,880 --> 00:59:21,400
Speaker 7: having some kind of resolution with as soon as possible.

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Speaker 3: Do you feel like the resolution, regardless of what it is,

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Speaker 3: with Trey Hendrickson, allows you to just get to the

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Speaker 3: next part of the offseason, because it feels at times

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00:59:32,440 --> 00:59:35,600
Speaker 3: like the longer that carries on, it takes away from

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Speaker 3: attacking all the other spots that this name needs to attack.

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Speaker 3: We've talked a lot about mock drafts of players available. Well,

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Speaker 3: if this team takes care of business and free agency,

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Speaker 3: they open their options up in the draft. Does moving

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Speaker 3: on or getting to a decision with Trey Hendrickson free

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Speaker 3: that up more for this organization to focus on what

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Speaker 3: it needs to do and avoid any distractions.

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Speaker 7: I think that's why it's a big week in Indianapolis,

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Speaker 7: and not just talking to could be prospects and could

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Speaker 7: be draft picks for the Bengals. It's a chance for

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Speaker 7: the Bengals and coaches in front office to be around

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Speaker 7: other teams and maybe have those kinds of conversations in person.

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Speaker 7: And I think that's why this week could be a

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Speaker 7: big week for the Bengals to maybe get some traction

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Speaker 7: towards trying to figure out if there could be a

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Speaker 7: trade partner for Trey Hendrickson. Now that's on the surface,

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Speaker 7: I would like to think that the Bengals have a

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Speaker 7: plan in mind, either a Plan A or a Plan

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Speaker 7: B with Trey Hendrickson, and they have that already on

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Speaker 7: the table and figured out so that they can then

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Speaker 7: go attack the rest of the roster and the rest

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Speaker 7: of the off season. So even if they don't publicly

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Speaker 7: have a resolution, I think internally, if they have a

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Speaker 7: resolution of Plan A and Plan B, they can attack

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Speaker 7: the rest of the off season. But I think your

1113
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Speaker 7: point is good, and too many times of these kinds

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Speaker 7: of things that kind of just hung over the organization

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Speaker 7: and maybe in Lewin's decision making in the past. I

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Speaker 7: do think it's very important for this team to have

1117
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Speaker 7: a lot of resolution before they get to the draft,

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Speaker 7: so they don't specifically have to draft for a need,

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Speaker 7: and they can have some flexibility in the draft. But

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Speaker 7: I do think it's a big week that if you're

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Speaker 7: going to find a trade partner, when the entire league

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Speaker 7: is in one building, like they will be in Indianapolis

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Speaker 7: this week, this could be a good time for the

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Speaker 7: Bengals to really test the water, have those conversations, not

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Speaker 7: just talk to prospects, but talk to other teams to

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Speaker 7: see if there's interest in Trey Henderson.

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Speaker 2: You know, in today's day and age in the media world, Joe,

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Speaker 2: everybody has a big board, everybody has a mock draft,

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Speaker 2: everybody has their guys when it comes to the prospects

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Speaker 2: in this draft. Can we expect a big board from

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Speaker 2: you at any point, a mock draft from you at

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Speaker 2: any point. Are there any players that you're interested in

1133
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Speaker 2: at the combine this week?

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Speaker 7: Well? It's interesting because you know, typically the Bengals are

1135
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Speaker 7: picking so far down in the first round. I just

1136
01:01:58,080 --> 01:01:59,800
Speaker 7: look at it like, Okay, I'm not going to waste

1137
01:01:59,840 --> 01:02:03,280
Speaker 7: my time trying to predict what fifteen to twenty different

1138
01:02:03,320 --> 01:02:05,560
Speaker 7: gms across the league is going to do. But when

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Speaker 7: the Bengals pick top ten, then you can start to

1140
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Speaker 7: look at breadcrumbs a little bit. And it's interesting. The

1141
01:02:11,240 --> 01:02:14,440
Speaker 7: closer and closer we get to the draft, the higher

1142
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Speaker 7: and higher it feels like some of the Bengals targets

1143
01:02:17,920 --> 01:02:21,280
Speaker 7: are seeming to be mocked, and certainly, you know we

1144
01:02:21,440 --> 01:02:24,320
Speaker 7: land on the Caleb Downs. It feels like Caleem Downs

1145
01:02:24,400 --> 01:02:29,760
Speaker 7: is now earmarked to go before the Bengals to even

1146
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Speaker 7: get to him at number ten, which would be a

1147
01:02:31,960 --> 01:02:34,880
Speaker 7: huge disappointment I'm sure for a lot of people in

1148
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Speaker 7: Cincinnati who feel like he could be an difference maker

1149
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Speaker 7: for this team. Myself concluded, it feels like the David

1150
01:02:41,920 --> 01:02:46,680
Speaker 7: Baileys and Reuben Bangs, considering their skills and how much

1151
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Speaker 7: they are valued in the NFL, might not be there.

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01:02:49,280 --> 01:02:51,960
Speaker 7: It also feels like all of a sudden, Peter Woods

1153
01:02:52,000 --> 01:02:54,520
Speaker 7: is starting to drop a little bit for whatever reason.

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Speaker 7: So yeah, me getting a big board done will be

1155
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Speaker 7: just me time of aggregating the experts in this field,

1156
01:03:03,160 --> 01:03:06,320
Speaker 7: and that would be unfair. But I do think it's interesting.

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Speaker 7: I'm looking forward to being around those guys tomorrow and

1158
01:03:11,400 --> 01:03:14,440
Speaker 7: Thursday to be around those those alignemen, to see what

1159
01:03:14,480 --> 01:03:18,200
Speaker 7: they're about, to see how they handle themselves, to see

1160
01:03:18,240 --> 01:03:21,480
Speaker 7: how they speak about themselves, and and you know, you

1161
01:03:21,520 --> 01:03:24,280
Speaker 7: don't get a whole lot right when it comes to

1162
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Speaker 7: deciding whether you're gonna draft somebody from what these guys

1163
01:03:27,040 --> 01:03:29,160
Speaker 7: say in front of a TV camera. But I think

1164
01:03:29,160 --> 01:03:31,920
Speaker 7: there's a little bit of kind of trying to figure

1165
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Speaker 7: out what makes them pick and what they're all about.

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Speaker 7: And that's gonna be interesting to me because it's not

1167
01:03:39,320 --> 01:03:41,840
Speaker 7: just Duke Tebin and Zach Taylor talking today. You got

1168
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Speaker 7: the Bengals coordinators speaking tomorrow. We have the the Reuben

1169
01:03:46,040 --> 01:03:49,680
Speaker 7: Bins and the David Bailey's and the Peter Woods talking tomorrow.

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Speaker 7: Then you have Caleb down Devailable on Thursday. So it's

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Speaker 7: an exciting fun week to try to project and kind

1172
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Speaker 7: of needle a little bit into these guys to figure

1173
01:03:59,520 --> 01:04:02,320
Speaker 7: out what they're about. We don't get the chance to

1174
01:04:02,600 --> 01:04:06,680
Speaker 7: go out into the actual stadium and watch these guys perform.

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Speaker 7: The only time we get around them is to ask

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01:04:09,240 --> 01:04:12,160
Speaker 7: them questions, either at a podium or off the side

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Speaker 7: of the podium. So that to us is our chance

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Speaker 7: to figure out more about these guys, and I'm looking

1179
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Speaker 7: forward to that.

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Speaker 3: With March Madness right around the corner, I would be

1181
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Speaker 3: remiss not to ask because of the fine work you

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Speaker 3: guys do at Fox nineteen with the final quarter, who

1183
01:04:25,680 --> 01:04:28,919
Speaker 3: are some of the local teams that we should be

1184
01:04:29,000 --> 01:04:31,440
Speaker 3: watching to have a chance to cut down the nets.

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Speaker 7: Well, Lakota West goes right to the top of the

1186
01:04:34,560 --> 01:04:37,800
Speaker 7: list right because Lakota West is so good and they've

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Speaker 7: proven all year that their special and conservative of the

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Speaker 7: number one ranking in Ohio. In Northern Kentucky Cubcats has

1189
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Speaker 7: been ranked number one before they got knocked off last

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Speaker 7: week by Madison Central, who was the top five team

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Speaker 7: in the states. So look, those aren't the only two teams.

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Speaker 7: There are a lot of teams that are going to

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01:04:56,120 --> 01:05:00,960
Speaker 7: be really difficult outs. We just had Baden's game on

1194
01:05:01,040 --> 01:05:03,600
Speaker 7: Friday night. Baden's put together one heck of a season,

1195
01:05:03,680 --> 01:05:05,600
Speaker 7: taking down the South for the first time in more

1196
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Speaker 7: than twenty years. And there are so many girls teams.

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01:05:09,760 --> 01:05:12,160
Speaker 7: Simon Kenton has been ranked number one in the state

1198
01:05:13,600 --> 01:05:17,280
Speaker 7: always in Cincinnati. You look at our teams coming from

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01:05:17,320 --> 01:05:20,560
Speaker 7: the girls Catholic leagues that could be difference makers, but

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01:05:21,080 --> 01:05:23,720
Speaker 7: certainly the CODA West and Cupcat jumped to the top.

1201
01:05:23,840 --> 01:05:26,000
Speaker 7: Right now, it's two teams that have been ranked number

1202
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Speaker 7: one in the state with a chance to cut down nets.

1203
01:05:28,760 --> 01:05:32,600
Speaker 7: But Wyoming's another team that everybody expects to take a

1204
01:05:32,640 --> 01:05:34,360
Speaker 7: next step this year and maybe get to the state

1205
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Speaker 7: championship game. We're deep this year. I'm excited for Cincinnati.

1206
01:05:39,760 --> 01:05:43,560
Speaker 7: It's not just the star power of the cam Mercers

1207
01:05:43,640 --> 01:05:46,280
Speaker 7: and the Joshua Tysons and all these guys that are

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01:05:46,280 --> 01:05:49,400
Speaker 7: going to get big time college offers and recruits, but

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Speaker 7: we are really deep with teams this year, and I

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01:05:52,240 --> 01:05:56,560
Speaker 7: can see Cincinnati sending several teams to the state tournament.

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01:05:56,600 --> 01:05:58,040
Speaker 7: I think that's a great thing for our area.

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Speaker 3: What taver we think coming up on Fox nineteen with

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Speaker 3: whether it's Reds and the Combine and we've got college

1214
01:06:05,480 --> 01:06:06,920
Speaker 3: hoops and high school basketball?

1215
01:06:06,960 --> 01:06:09,360
Speaker 2: What's the uh? What's brewing with Fox.

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Speaker 7: Nineteen Big day tomorrow at the Combine Tone the Flagship

1217
01:06:15,800 --> 01:06:20,520
Speaker 7: is planting its flag with a live thirty minute streaming.

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Speaker 2: You guys are actually at the Combine.

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Speaker 7: Vincinnati Sports Show, unlike you. You're at the Combine. The

1220
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Speaker 7: Flagship TV station, Yeah, yeah, is at the Combine one

1221
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Speaker 7: thirty tomorrow. Find Fox nineteen now. Wherever you find Fox

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Speaker 7: nineteen now streaming platforms, we call it Fox nineteen Now

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Speaker 7: plus Jeremie Row myself thirty minutes Angles coverage one thirty tomorrow,

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Speaker 7: streaming on the Flagship Man.

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Speaker 3: Awesome stuff. Enjoy your time in Indiana. We always appreciate

1226
01:06:53,920 --> 01:06:55,280
Speaker 3: your time here, Joe, have a great week.

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01:06:55,320 --> 01:06:55,919
Speaker 2: Thank you, Joe.

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Speaker 7: Big night for the bearcatch tone.

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Speaker 3: Oh don't even the word insufferable will be on the

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01:07:02,640 --> 01:07:04,760
Speaker 3: mind of many. If you see wins this tonight from me.

1231
01:07:04,760 --> 01:07:06,760
Speaker 2: Tomorrow, coming to work tomorrow, If they win.

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01:07:07,440 --> 01:07:12,800
Speaker 7: Five in a row, another top twenty win and in position,

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Speaker 7: I'll do.

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Speaker 2: This, Joe to be in position. Dam I love it.

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Speaker 7: Good lucktown, yeap, yeap.

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Speaker 3: I didn't need any more of that. Now I'm ready

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01:07:22,800 --> 01:07:25,880
Speaker 3: to go, Joe Daniman, Fox nineteen Awesome stuff. As always,

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Speaker 3: your talkbacks come up next to ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati

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01:07:29,000 --> 01:07:29,520
Speaker 3: Sports Station.

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01:07:30,200 --> 01:07:33,280
Speaker 2: Hey, Google, what's happening in Monis No one covers the

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01:07:33,320 --> 01:07:38,560
Speaker 2: Bengals like ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station. It's that

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01:07:38,640 --> 01:07:39,960
Speaker 2: time for talkbacks.

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Speaker 10: Press the microphone and record your message for Austin In tone,

1244
01:07:45,240 --> 01:07:49,480
Speaker 10: please keep it clean and don't be mean. And a

1245
01:07:49,520 --> 01:07:54,520
Speaker 10: sprinkle sprinkle, drip dri It's that time for talkbacks. It's

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Speaker 10: our favorite Tarter sinc. Three sixty. So Austin, buddy, play

1247
01:08:01,280 --> 01:08:05,480
Speaker 10: those fuckbacks on your screen at please try out to sabotage.

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Speaker 2: It is the Tuesday edition, although it doesn't. Does it

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01:08:09,080 --> 01:08:12,200
Speaker 2: feel like Tuesday to you? No, I was on Wednesday

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01:08:12,280 --> 01:08:14,480
Speaker 2: or Thursday. Half you're telling you before the show for

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01:08:14,560 --> 01:08:20,240
Speaker 2: whatever reason, I'm a day ahead. Yeah, I lied yesterday

1252
01:08:20,280 --> 01:08:23,160
Speaker 2: and told seg that today's game, Rad's game was on

1253
01:08:23,200 --> 01:08:26,360
Speaker 2: the wrong radio station because I thought yesterday was Tuesday.

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01:08:27,200 --> 01:08:30,080
Speaker 2: I'm all screwed up, and I have no real reason

1255
01:08:30,120 --> 01:08:32,759
Speaker 2: for that. I have a couple of quick updates. University

1256
01:08:32,800 --> 01:08:33,400
Speaker 2: of Cincinnati.

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01:08:33,439 --> 01:08:39,240
Speaker 3: Their spring showcase will be April eighteenth at Nippert Stadium.

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01:08:39,320 --> 01:08:42,680
Speaker 3: I believe their spring ball gets underway March ninth, and

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Speaker 3: their pro day will be on March twenty fourth. So

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Speaker 3: some updated football dates from the University of Cincinnati. Okay,

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01:08:49,880 --> 01:08:50,960
Speaker 3: now we'll get to talk things.

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Speaker 11: What's up, guys, McK cahuona, you're talking about the head

1263
01:08:53,880 --> 01:08:56,760
Speaker 11: over the park here watch Red Royals. You know the

1264
01:08:56,800 --> 01:09:00,519
Speaker 11: other day you had May, Richardson and Philip really cost

1265
01:09:00,600 --> 01:09:03,559
Speaker 11: that game. But you know, at some point you gotta

1266
01:09:03,600 --> 01:09:05,800
Speaker 11: start winning these spring training games, the preseason games.

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Speaker 2: I'm tired of losing the This is.

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01:09:07,040 --> 01:09:09,200
Speaker 11: What carries overs why the Bengals can't win the regular

1269
01:09:09,240 --> 01:09:11,360
Speaker 11: season because they keep getting used to losing in the

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Speaker 11: preseason and it takes them eight games to get going

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01:09:13,760 --> 01:09:14,719
Speaker 11: because they're used to losing.

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Speaker 2: You gotta win these games.

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Speaker 11: I'm tired of losing these preseason in spring training games.

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Speaker 2: What do you all think? I do my best to

1275
01:09:24,000 --> 01:09:26,439
Speaker 2: not worry about the results. I could not care less.

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Speaker 12: Austin, Tony Leroy down here in foulmin Austin, do you

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01:09:31,040 --> 01:09:33,160
Speaker 12: have any more of those show ideas in the shower

1278
01:09:33,240 --> 01:09:33,719
Speaker 12: this morning?

1279
01:09:35,200 --> 01:09:35,479
Speaker 2: Man?

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01:09:35,640 --> 01:09:39,840
Speaker 12: Houston looked sluggish last It was rough, hard to watch

1281
01:09:40,920 --> 01:09:44,840
Speaker 12: when being the Spurs blessing some people out there? Man,

1282
01:09:46,400 --> 01:09:49,880
Speaker 12: did you hear about the replay officials in the booth

1283
01:09:50,000 --> 01:09:52,760
Speaker 12: being able to throw flags? We did a proposal during

1284
01:09:52,760 --> 01:09:56,160
Speaker 12: the combine We talked about that, let's go Cats shower

1285
01:09:56,200 --> 01:09:57,960
Speaker 12: threats with Austin Elmore.

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Speaker 2: I did have an idea this morning, m in the shower.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, my thought and hope for combine week is that

1288
01:10:05,640 --> 01:10:09,200
Speaker 13: somehow ty Simpson completely blows up the combine and moves

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Speaker 13: into the top nine in the draft. Somehow, so one

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Speaker 13: of those defensive players may fall to the Bengals.

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Speaker 2: Wishful thinking. I'm sure you know, Mary Kacabott of Cleveland

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Speaker 2: dot Com, Cleveland Plain Dealer, whatever. I don't know if

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01:10:21,800 --> 01:10:24,719
Speaker 2: there's a difference. Uh, she said, the Browns are interested

1294
01:10:24,760 --> 01:10:25,400
Speaker 2: in Tyson.

1295
01:10:25,479 --> 01:10:28,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, I saw that. I did see. Kuiper said that

1296
01:10:28,160 --> 01:10:31,040
Speaker 3: without a doubt, ty Simpson is his number two quarterback.

1297
01:10:31,280 --> 01:10:34,679
Speaker 2: For what it's worth, there is no person I paid

1298
01:10:34,840 --> 01:10:40,639
Speaker 2: attention to less and put less stock into their planet

1299
01:10:40,760 --> 01:10:42,400
Speaker 2: Earth than mel Kiper.

1300
01:10:42,280 --> 01:10:46,320
Speaker 14: Junior, Tony Austin, George in the Valley, get off a

1301
01:10:46,320 --> 01:10:48,679
Speaker 14: little early today, hopefully catch the Reds game on TV.

1302
01:10:48,720 --> 01:10:50,479
Speaker 14: If you don't know, you could always go to the

1303
01:10:50,560 --> 01:10:53,800
Speaker 14: TV app dot t to stream the game. Can't find it,

1304
01:10:53,840 --> 01:10:56,040
Speaker 14: I'm not sure if what's on there tonight. But yeah,

1305
01:10:56,200 --> 01:10:58,760
Speaker 14: pregame of game. And I want to give a big

1306
01:10:58,800 --> 01:11:01,040
Speaker 14: shout out to Brenda. I mean thanks for you know

1307
01:11:01,080 --> 01:11:03,479
Speaker 14: what I do every time you make picks on the radio.

1308
01:11:03,800 --> 01:11:06,360
Speaker 14: As I just picked the opposite, I parlayed that I

1309
01:11:06,360 --> 01:11:07,680
Speaker 14: had a really good night last night.

1310
01:11:07,880 --> 01:11:08,600
Speaker 2: I appreciate you.

1311
01:11:08,680 --> 01:11:09,519
Speaker 14: Chad always go.

1312
01:11:09,479 --> 01:11:11,840
Speaker 2: Gets Chad's pigs. Wow, you guys have a great day.

1313
01:11:12,200 --> 01:11:15,679
Speaker 2: Go guess I'm gonna have to see saying Chad doesn't

1314
01:11:15,720 --> 01:11:17,599
Speaker 2: know ball, I meant to see who Chad likes tonight.

1315
01:11:17,640 --> 01:11:21,719
Speaker 2: Then okay. Interesting, Always interesting to hear from George. Yeah,

1316
01:11:21,800 --> 01:11:24,120
Speaker 2: George is a guy who does not spend a lot

1317
01:11:24,120 --> 01:11:26,320
Speaker 2: of time. Now, as I said before, it does not

1318
01:11:26,360 --> 01:11:29,400
Speaker 2: have much of a relationship with reality. I'm more one like.

1319
01:11:31,640 --> 01:11:34,880
Speaker 7: Tony. This is a start bench cut for you. Why

1320
01:11:35,080 --> 01:11:38,960
Speaker 7: just you? Because Austin's part of it? Start bench cut?

1321
01:11:39,640 --> 01:11:41,719
Speaker 7: Who could power clean more?

1322
01:11:42,520 --> 01:11:48,559
Speaker 15: Joe Daniman, Jeremy Raw, Jeremy or Austin Elmore start bench cut?

1323
01:11:50,120 --> 01:11:56,000
Speaker 3: Like Austin has been invested in in weights recently, you've

1324
01:11:56,040 --> 01:11:58,479
Speaker 3: been invested in lifting. You're sending out tests of how

1325
01:11:58,560 --> 01:12:01,000
Speaker 3: much your your your bench and different stuff. So I

1326
01:12:01,040 --> 01:12:06,720
Speaker 3: will say that Austin would clean the most, and then I.

1327
01:12:06,640 --> 01:12:09,439
Speaker 2: Would say, so you're starting me. I would start you.

1328
01:12:09,560 --> 01:12:14,559
Speaker 3: I would bench Daniman and I cut Raw only because

1329
01:12:15,400 --> 01:12:18,360
Speaker 3: Raw was dealing with a serious ankle injury last training camp.

1330
01:12:19,280 --> 01:12:22,600
Speaker 3: And you just wonder how much that impacts Sure, what

1331
01:12:22,720 --> 01:12:24,880
Speaker 3: he's able to do from a clean standpoint.

1332
01:12:24,479 --> 01:12:25,880
Speaker 2: Is it stable yet? Right?

1333
01:12:26,000 --> 01:12:27,800
Speaker 3: That sort of stuff, you know, is he is he

1334
01:12:27,880 --> 01:12:31,240
Speaker 3: doing more flexibility? Is he doing more band work? Whereas

1335
01:12:31,280 --> 01:12:33,679
Speaker 3: I think Daneman just walks in, throws the weight, puts

1336
01:12:33,680 --> 01:12:35,160
Speaker 3: the pre workout in and gets to work.

1337
01:12:35,240 --> 01:12:38,479
Speaker 2: Agreed. Yeah, that's a good point. I think Joe would

1338
01:12:38,560 --> 01:12:44,800
Speaker 2: also kind of dry scoop some like, you know, what's that?

1339
01:12:45,000 --> 01:12:47,800
Speaker 2: What's that stuff? Everybody take four? Like he would.

1340
01:12:48,120 --> 01:12:51,000
Speaker 3: He would even mix it with I could see Dan

1341
01:12:51,160 --> 01:12:55,000
Speaker 3: down the hatch, he's got the he's got the the

1342
01:12:55,000 --> 01:12:57,880
Speaker 3: the rack in between his legs, and he goes and

1343
01:12:57,920 --> 01:13:00,760
Speaker 3: he grabs like the powder and he does like the

1344
01:13:00,840 --> 01:13:04,320
Speaker 3: lebron sure before he goes into his power clean. I

1345
01:13:04,360 --> 01:13:06,200
Speaker 3: could see that's how he fires himself up.

1346
01:13:06,320 --> 01:13:12,000
Speaker 16: Yeah, Austin, I have figured out a workaround for the

1347
01:13:12,040 --> 01:13:15,600
Speaker 16: Alexa problem. What you gotta do is you got to

1348
01:13:15,640 --> 01:13:18,960
Speaker 16: go into your Alexa app in your phone and cast

1349
01:13:19,080 --> 01:13:23,080
Speaker 16: it from the Alexa app to the Alexa and then

1350
01:13:23,360 --> 01:13:24,280
Speaker 16: it won't cut out.

1351
01:13:24,920 --> 01:13:28,040
Speaker 2: Okay, there you go. He's figured out more than ours.

1352
01:13:28,120 --> 01:13:30,160
Speaker 2: That's more than our department's done in a long million,

1353
01:13:30,360 --> 01:13:36,200
Speaker 2: multimillion dollar company. What we were told is that there's

1354
01:13:36,280 --> 01:13:39,800
Speaker 2: an issue with like Amazon specifically and like this whole

1355
01:13:39,800 --> 01:13:42,479
Speaker 2: Alexa plus thing that they're doing. I don't know. It's

1356
01:13:42,520 --> 01:13:45,360
Speaker 2: above it's way above my head. It's a lot disregard.

1357
01:13:45,600 --> 01:13:48,080
Speaker 16: Right after I sent that talk back, my Alexa cutout,

1358
01:13:48,360 --> 01:13:51,360
Speaker 16: but it lasted for twenty minutes rather than twenty seconds.

1359
01:13:51,439 --> 01:13:55,400
Speaker 2: Oh no, I'm so sorry, guys, So we take back

1360
01:13:55,439 --> 01:13:57,880
Speaker 2: everything we just said. I wish I could fix it.

1361
01:13:58,240 --> 01:14:01,040
Speaker 17: Hey, fellas Tone, what a week last week for you

1362
01:14:01,160 --> 01:14:03,960
Speaker 17: so far between the Barracats and your boy finally putting

1363
01:14:03,960 --> 01:14:05,439
Speaker 17: out some name music and autie.

1364
01:14:05,439 --> 01:14:06,679
Speaker 2: You is right about James.

1365
01:14:06,920 --> 01:14:09,040
Speaker 8: I like him, but there's not a prospect out there.

1366
01:14:09,080 --> 01:14:11,880
Speaker 18: I think that dude doesn't like or a trade scenario

1367
01:14:11,880 --> 01:14:13,599
Speaker 18: that he's worked up, or if they could happen.

1368
01:14:13,880 --> 01:14:15,920
Speaker 7: So I guess if you work a favorite angle, you.

1369
01:14:15,840 --> 01:14:20,040
Speaker 17: Can say well I was right, But seriously, no parents

1370
01:14:20,160 --> 01:14:22,360
Speaker 17: just Halifield take care of body and who they are.

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01:14:22,400 --> 01:14:25,559
Speaker 3: I do think there gets to be a point where

1372
01:14:25,640 --> 01:14:27,960
Speaker 3: James just throws the most outland of stuff out there,

1373
01:14:28,000 --> 01:14:30,160
Speaker 3: and he's got so much out there that he can

1374
01:14:30,600 --> 01:14:33,360
Speaker 3: once a player's drafted like out let's see I called this, Yeah,

1375
01:14:33,600 --> 01:14:36,960
Speaker 3: I think that's a trade happened part of his strategy.

1376
01:14:37,320 --> 01:14:41,360
Speaker 3: But I will also say this James mindset is correct.

1377
01:14:41,960 --> 01:14:47,200
Speaker 3: You should be open to and considering and looking at

1378
01:14:47,240 --> 01:14:50,599
Speaker 3: all avenues of acquisitions of all types.

1379
01:14:50,920 --> 01:14:54,240
Speaker 2: You think to aggressively pursue a championship. Doesn't matter who

1380
01:14:54,280 --> 01:14:57,240
Speaker 2: it is, or how unattainable they might be, or what

1381
01:14:57,280 --> 01:15:00,360
Speaker 2: the cost might be. It should be a converse station

1382
01:15:00,800 --> 01:15:05,559
Speaker 2: and it should be under consideration. James's attitude is correct. Now,

1383
01:15:05,800 --> 01:15:08,160
Speaker 2: when you get into his arrogance, it's a different story,

1384
01:15:08,600 --> 01:15:10,679
Speaker 2: but his attitude is correct.

1385
01:15:11,560 --> 01:15:16,160
Speaker 19: Hey, fellas, Happy Tuesday. It's DJ pro. I can't believe it,

1386
01:15:16,400 --> 01:15:18,719
Speaker 19: can't believe that this UC team has me here again.

1387
01:15:19,160 --> 01:15:19,600
Speaker 7: Humped up.

1388
01:15:19,640 --> 01:15:23,400
Speaker 19: Pretty game tonight, Joe Lonardi next four out, Let's go

1389
01:15:23,680 --> 01:15:25,880
Speaker 19: already bought tickets for me my daughter Isla for the

1390
01:15:25,920 --> 01:15:29,280
Speaker 19: game on Saturday. I'm either going loose sleep tonight because

1391
01:15:29,320 --> 01:15:31,680
Speaker 19: I'm so excited on the loose sleep tonights. I'm so

1392
01:15:31,720 --> 01:15:36,280
Speaker 19: aggravated thirty days to opening day and Audi tonight. Your bulls,

1393
01:15:36,320 --> 01:15:38,719
Speaker 19: my hornets, Let's go have a great day, fellas.

1394
01:15:38,800 --> 01:15:42,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, hornets by a comfortable margin. I am LaMelo is

1395
01:15:42,840 --> 01:15:46,200
Speaker 2: probably out recklessly driving like a Georgia bulldog somewhere.

1396
01:15:47,280 --> 01:15:50,759
Speaker 3: I got a text today from a buddy of mine

1397
01:15:51,560 --> 01:15:55,080
Speaker 3: who's got post it note. Post it notes now on

1398
01:15:55,439 --> 01:15:58,640
Speaker 3: teams if you're the Bearcats that you are rooting for

1399
01:15:58,800 --> 01:16:01,960
Speaker 3: to win or lose based on the upcoming schedule, and

1400
01:16:02,040 --> 01:16:05,120
Speaker 3: not alone makes me feel like we're back in the conversation.

1401
01:16:08,880 --> 01:16:12,719
Speaker 20: Oh hello, this is former President Ronald Reagan, and well,

1402
01:16:13,040 --> 01:16:17,000
Speaker 20: I'm nominating the following individuals to also have the authority

1403
01:16:17,040 --> 01:16:22,040
Speaker 20: to throw penalty flags. Mister McGoo, one randomly drawn fan

1404
01:16:22,080 --> 01:16:25,920
Speaker 20: in attendance at each game, and Vinnie the fixer from.

1405
01:16:25,960 --> 01:16:27,679
Speaker 2: Vegas bet line. Wow.

1406
01:16:27,880 --> 01:16:31,200
Speaker 20: Initially I considered nominating Tim Couch and David Klingler to

1407
01:16:31,240 --> 01:16:33,960
Speaker 20: throw flags, but they would have probably just been intercepted.

1408
01:16:36,560 --> 01:16:39,960
Speaker 3: How cool to be one fan at each game gets

1409
01:16:39,960 --> 01:16:41,320
Speaker 3: a flag to throw at any point.

1410
01:16:44,320 --> 01:16:47,240
Speaker 2: Hey, Austin, funny, right, Good afternoon.

1411
01:16:47,800 --> 01:16:49,040
Speaker 7: Hope you're having a good one.

1412
01:16:49,520 --> 01:16:52,519
Speaker 15: Hey, has since the shirts put that out yet on

1413
01:16:52,600 --> 01:17:02,040
Speaker 15: a shirt? Indeed, aggressive pursuit of a championship and you

1414
01:17:02,080 --> 01:17:06,080
Speaker 15: could insert name here. I don't know, sounds like it

1415
01:17:06,080 --> 01:17:06,920
Speaker 15: could be a winner.

1416
01:17:09,080 --> 01:17:12,640
Speaker 2: I have a good one, guys, I don't think they have,

1417
01:17:12,800 --> 01:17:13,519
Speaker 2: although I would.

1418
01:17:13,320 --> 01:17:18,439
Speaker 17: Be talking about it, talking about moving the defences back

1419
01:17:18,479 --> 01:17:22,240
Speaker 17: at GAVP. I have wished for that ever since they

1420
01:17:22,280 --> 01:17:26,120
Speaker 17: opened the stadium. I remember when Homer Bayley said it

1421
01:17:26,160 --> 01:17:29,240
Speaker 17: was like pitching in a little league ballpark, and it

1422
01:17:29,360 --> 01:17:31,880
Speaker 17: pissed me off when the first time I heard Andrew

1423
01:17:31,960 --> 01:17:36,160
Speaker 17: McCutcheon call it great American small park. I mean, I

1424
01:17:36,240 --> 01:17:39,320
Speaker 17: understand both teams have the same advantage, but it's still

1425
01:17:39,360 --> 01:17:43,160
Speaker 17: embarrassing when people would talk about how small the ballpark

1426
01:17:43,400 --> 01:17:43,840
Speaker 17: is here.

1427
01:17:45,360 --> 01:17:47,000
Speaker 2: Man, it's trying to figure out what that song was

1428
01:17:47,040 --> 01:17:47,760
Speaker 2: in the background.

1429
01:17:49,920 --> 01:17:50,320
Speaker 7: What's up?

1430
01:17:50,360 --> 01:17:50,679
Speaker 2: Boys?

1431
01:17:50,680 --> 01:17:54,160
Speaker 18: Craig and the Creek agree wholeheartedly. The Reds need to

1432
01:17:54,200 --> 01:17:57,320
Speaker 18: do more. Could not disagree more about the salary cap.

1433
01:17:57,840 --> 01:18:01,639
Speaker 18: The way the system is currently constructed, small market teams

1434
01:18:02,120 --> 01:18:06,080
Speaker 18: can only build through the draft, and big market teams

1435
01:18:06,200 --> 01:18:08,519
Speaker 18: drive the price on players up so high that even

1436
01:18:08,520 --> 01:18:10,960
Speaker 18: when we do build through the draft, as soon as

1437
01:18:10,960 --> 01:18:14,240
Speaker 18: our players become free agents, they swoop in and out prices.

1438
01:18:14,680 --> 01:18:17,439
Speaker 18: Can we compete for one year, yes, but year in

1439
01:18:17,439 --> 01:18:19,720
Speaker 18: and year out we're at a significant disadvantage.

1440
01:18:20,680 --> 01:18:23,479
Speaker 2: I just disagree with that. I think they're there. There

1441
01:18:23,520 --> 01:18:26,599
Speaker 2: is a lot of teams that want you to feel

1442
01:18:26,600 --> 01:18:29,120
Speaker 2: that way. Now, you are correct that I think some

1443
01:18:29,200 --> 01:18:33,000
Speaker 2: of these higher, these bigger market teams that might have

1444
01:18:33,120 --> 01:18:38,880
Speaker 2: deeper pockets, they are driving prices up to an extent.

1445
01:18:39,640 --> 01:18:42,840
Speaker 2: I agree with that sentiment for sure, But there are

1446
01:18:42,920 --> 01:18:46,519
Speaker 2: plenty of owners around the league who could do more

1447
01:18:47,000 --> 01:18:50,919
Speaker 2: but choose not to correct. That is ultimately the difference,

1448
01:18:51,800 --> 01:18:53,960
Speaker 2: and that to me is the biggest issue. If it

1449
01:18:54,000 --> 01:18:56,600
Speaker 2: were up to me, like this is very nuanced, and

1450
01:18:56,640 --> 01:19:00,960
Speaker 2: I am, by no means an expert, the players are

1451
01:19:00,960 --> 01:19:04,400
Speaker 2: never going to agree to a salary cap. Yeah, I

1452
01:19:04,800 --> 01:19:10,320
Speaker 2: think there should be some sort of revenue sharing or

1453
01:19:10,720 --> 01:19:15,559
Speaker 2: a much more strict luxury tax penalty that puts more

1454
01:19:15,600 --> 01:19:19,040
Speaker 2: money into the pockets of the small market teams or

1455
01:19:19,040 --> 01:19:21,800
Speaker 2: the teams who don't go over the luxury tax, which,

1456
01:19:21,840 --> 01:19:24,120
Speaker 2: by the way, that's already happening, and it's a lot

1457
01:19:24,160 --> 01:19:26,120
Speaker 2: of money that is disseminated to the rest of the

1458
01:19:26,160 --> 01:19:29,120
Speaker 2: league because the Dodgers and Mets spend so much and

1459
01:19:29,200 --> 01:19:32,080
Speaker 2: other teams that's already that's part of the revenue sharing

1460
01:19:32,120 --> 01:19:34,000
Speaker 2: that goes back into the owner's pockets of the small

1461
01:19:34,040 --> 01:19:38,120
Speaker 2: market teams. I think make that more strict, put a

1462
01:19:38,160 --> 01:19:41,800
Speaker 2: salary floor in and come up with some sort of

1463
01:19:41,880 --> 01:19:45,960
Speaker 2: revenue sharing that makes sense. Maybe if maybe it's based

1464
01:19:46,000 --> 01:19:49,360
Speaker 2: on winning. Let's say you win more games, you get

1465
01:19:49,360 --> 01:19:50,360
Speaker 2: a bigger piece of the pot.

1466
01:19:50,439 --> 01:19:52,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, no one, Like I said, no one's ever going

1467
01:19:52,320 --> 01:19:54,920
Speaker 3: to agree to the salary cap. It's already it's already

1468
01:19:54,920 --> 01:19:56,639
Speaker 3: wide open. Like I go to it all the time

1469
01:19:56,680 --> 01:19:59,639
Speaker 3: in the NFL model of you know, they have done

1470
01:19:59,640 --> 01:20:02,400
Speaker 3: so much to limit padded practices, to limit to a days.

1471
01:20:02,439 --> 01:20:04,040
Speaker 3: Do you think anyone's ever going to get together and say,

1472
01:20:04,040 --> 01:20:05,400
Speaker 3: you know what, let's agree to go back to how

1473
01:20:05,439 --> 01:20:09,000
Speaker 3: it was. Let's go back to more padded practices. Let's

1474
01:20:09,040 --> 01:20:10,840
Speaker 3: go back to two a days. Even though it might help,

1475
01:20:11,400 --> 01:20:12,960
Speaker 3: you're not going to do that. No one's going to

1476
01:20:13,040 --> 01:20:15,120
Speaker 3: agree to that. No one is going to agree to

1477
01:20:15,160 --> 01:20:17,200
Speaker 3: the salary cap. You're not going to come to an

1478
01:20:17,200 --> 01:20:19,400
Speaker 3: agreement on that. So what can you do to build

1479
01:20:19,400 --> 01:20:21,880
Speaker 3: around that and get to a point where a point

1480
01:20:21,880 --> 01:20:23,120
Speaker 3: where both these sides can agree.

1481
01:20:23,200 --> 01:20:26,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, it has to make sense, And you know, I

1482
01:20:26,040 --> 01:20:29,240
Speaker 2: don't know how to get to where everybody is happy.

1483
01:20:29,479 --> 01:20:32,599
Speaker 2: I don't know if that's possible, but I think there

1484
01:20:32,680 --> 01:20:36,920
Speaker 2: is just I just fundamentally disagree with that idea. That

1485
01:20:36,960 --> 01:20:41,200
Speaker 2: it's entirely based off of of you know, large market teams.

1486
01:20:43,240 --> 01:20:45,840
Speaker 2: There are owners that can do a lot more. The

1487
01:20:45,880 --> 01:20:49,479
Speaker 2: Reds are one of them. I don't know. Tom said,

1488
01:20:49,520 --> 01:20:50,880
Speaker 2: you don't need any more of that. I think we

1489
01:20:50,960 --> 01:20:53,679
Speaker 2: need all the good vibes we can when it comes

1490
01:20:53,680 --> 01:20:57,800
Speaker 2: to the UC basketball program. We'll be rooting for them

1491
01:20:57,840 --> 01:21:03,160
Speaker 2: along with you, sir. Oh h pizza dude, Kevington, long

1492
01:21:03,240 --> 01:21:08,439
Speaker 2: bands guy, long pants guy. I know we're not going

1493
01:21:08,520 --> 01:21:10,639
Speaker 2: to get a lot today from Duke Tobin.

1494
01:21:10,760 --> 01:21:13,120
Speaker 10: I get that, But if I hear the words we

1495
01:21:13,280 --> 01:21:13,719
Speaker 10: like our.

1496
01:21:13,600 --> 01:21:17,479
Speaker 16: Linebackers, oh boy, I'm gonna lose my ever loving mind.

1497
01:21:18,479 --> 01:21:20,720
Speaker 3: That's what we should have done with Joe is what

1498
01:21:20,760 --> 01:21:22,600
Speaker 3: do you expect to hear from Duke? And what do

1499
01:21:22,680 --> 01:21:24,800
Speaker 3: you not want to hear from Duke? Because that would

1500
01:21:24,800 --> 01:21:26,439
Speaker 3: certainly qualify yep.

1501
01:21:28,520 --> 01:21:33,360
Speaker 7: Tony Austin, Joe d wanted to add two more teams

1502
01:21:34,360 --> 01:21:37,040
Speaker 7: to the high schools you asked me to keep an

1503
01:21:37,080 --> 01:21:40,160
Speaker 7: eye out for in March. I would kick myself if

1504
01:21:40,200 --> 01:21:43,240
Speaker 7: I didn't mention Witton Woods, who only has one loss

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Speaker 7: all season, hasn't lost to a team from Ohio all year,

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01:21:47,160 --> 01:21:52,120
Speaker 7: and Mount Notre Dame undefeated MND. Two more teams to

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01:21:52,200 --> 01:21:54,840
Speaker 7: watch from Cincinnati next month.

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01:21:55,080 --> 01:21:57,080
Speaker 2: I just know Joe hung up the phone and was like,

1509
01:21:57,160 --> 01:21:59,599
Speaker 2: damn it, yep. If I don't say these two schools,

1510
01:21:59,600 --> 01:22:01,559
Speaker 2: I'm gonna hear about it. Yep. So he left to

1511
01:22:01,600 --> 01:22:04,280
Speaker 2: talk back. I like that. I appreciate that from Joe.

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01:22:04,560 --> 01:22:07,000
Speaker 2: By the way, good luck to the lady yellow Jackets

1513
01:22:07,200 --> 01:22:11,479
Speaker 2: in action tonight tournament action up against Bellbrook. It's gonna

1514
01:22:11,479 --> 01:22:14,880
Speaker 2: be a tall task. Well Brook's tough, Sydney struggles to score.

1515
01:22:15,280 --> 01:22:18,200
Speaker 2: It's gonna be a tall task for him.

1516
01:22:18,439 --> 01:22:19,599
Speaker 17: My entire life.

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01:22:19,880 --> 01:22:22,439
Speaker 13: I think that might be the first time I've ever

1518
01:22:22,560 --> 01:22:25,960
Speaker 13: heard someone say my Hornets play tonight.

1519
01:22:29,400 --> 01:22:32,240
Speaker 2: And it's a good point. It is, man, that is uh,

1520
01:22:32,320 --> 01:22:37,719
Speaker 2: that's the truth. Hey, Shoe from Casey here about Great

1521
01:22:37,720 --> 01:22:40,639
Speaker 2: American and moving into fence. You got to remember, it's

1522
01:22:40,680 --> 01:22:44,080
Speaker 2: really not how big or small it is that matters.

1523
01:22:44,080 --> 01:22:46,519
Speaker 2: It's it's really how you use it. You know, you

1524
01:22:46,600 --> 01:22:48,040
Speaker 2: got to build a team to use it the way

1525
01:22:48,040 --> 01:22:53,840
Speaker 2: it is. Who did Okay? Was the last one? All right?

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01:22:54,600 --> 01:22:56,559
Speaker 2: Still one second when we get back, Oh you want

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01:22:56,560 --> 01:22:57,960
Speaker 2: to do one? You want to do? We do? We

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01:22:58,000 --> 01:23:00,679
Speaker 2: could do too. No, it's one is fine, one and done.

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01:23:01,720 --> 01:23:04,120
Speaker 2: We still got a third hour. Yeah, we do have

1530
01:23:04,160 --> 01:23:09,280
Speaker 2: three hours to do. Phone lines will be open. Five one, three, seven,

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01:23:09,320 --> 01:23:13,120
Speaker 2: four nine, fifteen thirty. Disappointed in the lack of action

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01:23:13,240 --> 01:23:15,320
Speaker 2: on the phone lines. Stay yeah, wake up, Maybe we'd

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01:23:15,320 --> 01:23:17,200
Speaker 2: get more. It's I mean, it's a big day, but

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01:23:17,240 --> 01:23:19,760
Speaker 2: maybe that's on us for not doing enough. It's a

1535
01:23:19,800 --> 01:23:22,160
Speaker 2: big day. Why why is it so big today? Well,

1536
01:23:22,160 --> 01:23:25,519
Speaker 2: if I look at this player schedule that's color coded.

1537
01:23:26,120 --> 01:23:29,800
Speaker 3: Uh. Today, DB's and tight ends are arriving. They're going

1538
01:23:29,840 --> 01:23:33,960
Speaker 3: through registration at the combine, while kickers, d linemen and

1539
01:23:34,000 --> 01:23:38,000
Speaker 3: linebackers are doing team interviews, studies in general medical exams.

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01:23:38,920 --> 01:23:41,439
Speaker 3: That's all happening to the combine. Red's got a game

1541
01:23:41,479 --> 01:23:44,479
Speaker 3: at three zho five Bearcats play at seven o'clock. There's

1542
01:23:44,479 --> 01:23:47,439
Speaker 3: so much going on, no one wants to talk about it.

1543
01:23:48,400 --> 01:23:51,080
Speaker 3: Five on three, seven, four, fifteen thirty. That's your chance on.

1544
01:23:51,160 --> 01:23:53,719
Speaker 2: Esp I want to see Johnny from Mount Healthy's big board.

1545
01:23:53,720 --> 01:23:56,759
Speaker 2: When's that coming out? It's a great point, great question,

1546
01:23:57,720 --> 01:24:01,080
Speaker 2: no answers. More to come next on ESPN fifteen thirty.

1547
01:24:02,080 --> 01:24:03,720
Speaker 2: You're one stop for advertising.

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01:24:16,600 --> 01:24:21,560
Speaker 3: Welcome back since he three sixty ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati

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01:24:21,640 --> 01:24:26,439
Speaker 3: Sports Station. This is of course Angel Ridge by our

1550
01:24:26,439 --> 01:24:29,000
Speaker 3: friend Jeff Henry. I got the new CD yesterday.

1551
01:24:29,080 --> 01:24:32,000
Speaker 2: I saw that this is a momentous day and show history.

1552
01:24:32,080 --> 01:24:33,679
Speaker 2: Jeff Henry has released another.

1553
01:24:33,560 --> 01:24:37,760
Speaker 3: Hue part CD Volume one like a River Volume two

1554
01:24:37,880 --> 01:24:40,719
Speaker 3: coming around now. It's not going to be on digital

1555
01:24:40,720 --> 01:24:45,719
Speaker 3: to like March fifteenth or sixteenth. So I realized yesterday Austin,

1556
01:24:46,040 --> 01:24:48,400
Speaker 3: I've got to find a CD player so that I

1557
01:24:48,400 --> 01:24:50,920
Speaker 3: can listen to these new songs from Jeff.

1558
01:24:50,960 --> 01:24:52,360
Speaker 2: You don't have one in your car. I don't have

1559
01:24:52,400 --> 01:24:54,599
Speaker 2: a CD player in the car. Everything's like car play.

1560
01:24:55,200 --> 01:24:57,360
Speaker 2: I don't have that now, not even like in your trunk.

1561
01:24:57,439 --> 01:24:59,639
Speaker 2: You remember those back in the day. I do player

1562
01:24:59,640 --> 01:25:01,400
Speaker 2: in the so like six of them bad Boys in

1563
01:25:01,479 --> 01:25:04,760
Speaker 2: now yep. That was really the peak of That was

1564
01:25:04,800 --> 01:25:07,439
Speaker 2: peak engineering. That was peak when it comes to vehicles.

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01:25:08,160 --> 01:25:11,880
Speaker 3: Listen to this and this is obviously very early in

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01:25:11,880 --> 01:25:16,000
Speaker 3: the process, which means a lot of speculation. But I

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01:25:16,160 --> 01:25:18,920
Speaker 3: follow along on on social media with the Field of

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01:25:18,960 --> 01:25:22,800
Speaker 3: sixty eight social media account and they were doing a

1569
01:25:22,840 --> 01:25:26,000
Speaker 3: little bit of a coaching carousel rundown, and I was

1570
01:25:26,040 --> 01:25:32,400
Speaker 3: surprised by this with Jeff Goodman. Obviously basketball analyst, he's

1571
01:25:32,439 --> 01:25:34,400
Speaker 3: the co founder of the Field of sixty eight, but

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01:25:34,640 --> 01:25:38,640
Speaker 3: very I would say connected when it comes to college basketball.

1573
01:25:39,360 --> 01:25:44,600
Speaker 3: Jeff Goodman said this today. Austin Providence will likely go

1574
01:25:44,760 --> 01:25:48,280
Speaker 3: for a safe hire, or at least one to appease

1575
01:25:48,320 --> 01:25:54,439
Speaker 3: the fan base. The easy choice is Richard Patino, whose

1576
01:25:54,479 --> 01:25:59,320
Speaker 3: sources say would highly consider leaving Xavier after just one season.

1577
01:26:00,680 --> 01:26:01,640
Speaker 3: Could you imagine that?

1578
01:26:03,479 --> 01:26:03,679
Speaker 2: Now?

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01:26:03,760 --> 01:26:07,640
Speaker 3: Obviously Patino and his dad and Providence there would be

1580
01:26:07,640 --> 01:26:12,200
Speaker 3: some ties there, but I genuinely got the feeling that

1581
01:26:12,240 --> 01:26:14,479
Speaker 3: Patino has enjoyed his time with Xavier.

1582
01:26:14,600 --> 01:26:17,559
Speaker 2: Well. To bring back the point you mentioned earlier about

1583
01:26:17,600 --> 01:26:22,439
Speaker 2: how upfront and honest he is about needing more money. Sure,

1584
01:26:23,080 --> 01:26:26,519
Speaker 2: maybe if Xavier can't commit to that, Yeah, maybe it

1585
01:26:26,560 --> 01:26:27,719
Speaker 2: does or happen.

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01:26:27,880 --> 01:26:30,280
Speaker 3: If you are Richard Patino, maybe you do float something

1587
01:26:30,320 --> 01:26:32,559
Speaker 3: like that out there to get Xavier to do what

1588
01:26:33,320 --> 01:26:34,479
Speaker 3: phoning up some more bucks?

1589
01:26:34,600 --> 01:26:39,160
Speaker 2: Sure? Okay, playing the game here. Speaking of which the game?

1590
01:26:39,240 --> 01:26:46,720
Speaker 2: Did I see that Wake Forest? I saw this? Steve Forbes, Yeah,

1591
01:26:47,040 --> 01:26:50,560
Speaker 2: is going to remain the head coach of Wake Forest basketball.

1592
01:26:51,479 --> 01:26:59,639
Speaker 2: Seven years zero NCAA tournament appearances for Steve Forbes ad

1593
01:26:59,760 --> 01:27:05,560
Speaker 2: John Curry at Wake Forest is supported Steve Forbes and

1594
01:27:05,560 --> 01:27:07,439
Speaker 2: said he's gonna be the coach next year. That's crazy.

1595
01:27:07,600 --> 01:27:11,360
Speaker 2: Seven years no tournament appearances for the Demon Deacons.

1596
01:27:11,600 --> 01:27:14,599
Speaker 3: Last night, Bill self moved to forty one to oh

1597
01:27:14,720 --> 01:27:19,120
Speaker 3: On Big Monday at Fall Gallen, they give Houston their

1598
01:27:19,160 --> 01:27:21,840
Speaker 3: third straight loss. It might be the proverbial Houston. We

1599
01:27:21,920 --> 01:27:23,720
Speaker 3: have a problem on the offensive side of the ball

1600
01:27:23,800 --> 01:27:28,400
Speaker 3: right now. They get no production from their inside bigs

1601
01:27:28,400 --> 01:27:32,080
Speaker 3: and that is creating a problem and something that defenses

1602
01:27:32,120 --> 01:27:35,160
Speaker 3: are able to isolate a little bit. As far as

1603
01:27:35,200 --> 01:27:37,200
Speaker 3: it goes with the Houston Cougars. That was an impressive

1604
01:27:37,200 --> 01:27:39,280
Speaker 3: win from Kansas last night. And I would assume if

1605
01:27:39,400 --> 01:27:43,960
Speaker 3: you're following along a good win for UC since they

1606
01:27:44,080 --> 01:27:45,920
Speaker 3: just came off of a game in which they beat

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01:27:46,000 --> 01:27:48,679
Speaker 3: Kansas on the road, So you want Kansas to continue

1608
01:27:48,680 --> 01:27:55,559
Speaker 3: and pick up their winning ways. We are thirty days

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01:27:55,600 --> 01:28:00,439
Speaker 3: away from opening day at Great American Ballpark. I mentioned

1610
01:28:00,439 --> 01:28:06,639
Speaker 3: this yesterday, Austin. Is this as easy of a list

1611
01:28:06,920 --> 01:28:09,960
Speaker 3: to get through today? Do we have to recite the

1612
01:28:09,960 --> 01:28:12,320
Speaker 3: other names or do you go right to Ken Griffy Jr.

1613
01:28:12,960 --> 01:28:15,519
Speaker 3: Who dawned the number thirty from two thousand to two

1614
01:28:15,520 --> 01:28:17,479
Speaker 3: thousand and five for the Cincinnati Reds.

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01:28:17,960 --> 01:28:21,640
Speaker 2: It would be hard not to think of some of

1616
01:28:21,680 --> 01:28:25,000
Speaker 2: the other I don't know that I would say greats

1617
01:28:25,960 --> 01:28:29,479
Speaker 2: about his own father, some of the other really really

1618
01:28:29,479 --> 01:28:33,600
Speaker 2: good players in Red's history to wear that number, including

1619
01:28:33,760 --> 01:28:36,840
Speaker 2: as you mentioned, Ken Griffy Senior, who I think is

1620
01:28:36,880 --> 01:28:41,000
Speaker 2: one of the most underrated players in the history of baseball.

1621
01:28:42,160 --> 01:28:47,800
Speaker 2: Ken Griffy could flat out play, and Junior obviously up

1622
01:28:47,800 --> 01:28:50,680
Speaker 2: there as well. Joey j was a legend for the

1623
01:28:50,720 --> 01:28:54,040
Speaker 2: Reds back in the day, back in the nineteen sixties.

1624
01:28:54,280 --> 01:28:59,839
Speaker 2: Who could forget Norris Hopper as I mentioned yesterday, Diana Navarro,

1625
01:29:00,200 --> 01:29:05,719
Speaker 2: who was a terrible player, Paul Darringer. H Paul Darringer

1626
01:29:05,840 --> 01:29:08,360
Speaker 2: was on the nineteen forty team that won the World Series.

1627
01:29:08,400 --> 01:29:12,280
Speaker 2: Clinton Hurdle has permanently red and skin due to alcohol poisoning.

1628
01:29:12,320 --> 01:29:15,479
Speaker 2: He's the former skipper of the Pittsburgh Pirates. One of

1629
01:29:15,479 --> 01:29:17,640
Speaker 2: my least favorite players of all time. How could you

1630
01:29:17,680 --> 01:29:20,559
Speaker 2: forget hirsh least favorite people of all time? Hursh Freeman,

1631
01:29:21,160 --> 01:29:24,360
Speaker 2: Oh gosh? In his time? What about Dallas Williams In

1632
01:29:24,439 --> 01:29:28,680
Speaker 2: nineteen eighty three, Roberto Big Dally Kelly used to call

1633
01:29:28,720 --> 01:29:30,559
Speaker 2: him Roberto Kelly.

1634
01:29:30,600 --> 01:29:35,160
Speaker 3: What about Big Quinton McCracken, Not Big Arn McCracken. No

1635
01:29:35,360 --> 01:29:38,360
Speaker 3: Quinton McCracken. Quinton McCracken. I remember him a little bit.

1636
01:29:39,000 --> 01:29:42,000
Speaker 2: Quinton McCracken had a He was around Major League baseball

1637
01:29:42,120 --> 01:29:42,559
Speaker 2: quite a bit.

1638
01:29:42,680 --> 01:29:44,639
Speaker 3: Now, Will Benson keeps hitting the ball like he's doing

1639
01:29:44,640 --> 01:29:47,920
Speaker 3: at spring training so far, he might give Junior a

1640
01:29:48,000 --> 01:29:49,080
Speaker 3: run for his money this year?

1641
01:29:49,120 --> 01:29:52,280
Speaker 2: Are you forgetting the first ever read to wear the

1642
01:29:52,360 --> 01:29:58,320
Speaker 2: number thirty? Back in nineteen thirty from Clarksville, Ohio? Oh Biff?

1643
01:29:58,320 --> 01:30:01,840
Speaker 2: Why song? Oh Biff? Come on now? How about oh Man?

1644
01:30:01,880 --> 01:30:04,400
Speaker 2: How about Biff? He started one game for the Reds

1645
01:30:04,400 --> 01:30:09,200
Speaker 2: in nineteen thirty. He has a nineteen point twenty nine er?

1646
01:30:09,680 --> 01:30:11,680
Speaker 2: Was that higher or lower than what Malley finished up with?

1647
01:30:12,160 --> 01:30:15,439
Speaker 2: Old Biff pitched in two and a third innings cool

1648
01:30:15,720 --> 01:30:21,479
Speaker 2: in nineteen thirty with a nineteen point three died era.

1649
01:30:21,720 --> 01:30:24,920
Speaker 2: Tyler Valley, of course, has anyone else missed the organization

1650
01:30:25,120 --> 01:30:29,080
Speaker 2: throw more pitches than Tyler Maley? Tyler Valley un like

1651
01:30:29,920 --> 01:30:34,519
Speaker 2: unfortunately for our narrative here, that dude has awesome last year.

1652
01:30:35,080 --> 01:30:38,080
Speaker 2: He was really good last year. Yep, doesn't quite fit

1653
01:30:38,120 --> 01:30:41,320
Speaker 2: into our netage. There was nobody. I mean, gosh, it

1654
01:30:41,360 --> 01:30:43,040
Speaker 2: was hard to watch a game Malley.

1655
01:30:43,240 --> 01:30:47,760
Speaker 3: It wasn't because it almost became eventially see to see

1656
01:30:47,760 --> 01:30:49,120
Speaker 3: how many pitches he would throw?

1657
01:30:49,240 --> 01:30:51,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, how's he going to get up at two in

1658
01:30:51,200 --> 01:30:54,479
Speaker 2: the count here and get it full? Yeah? I like

1659
01:30:54,600 --> 01:30:54,960
Speaker 2: it was.

1660
01:30:56,280 --> 01:30:59,639
Speaker 3: It was something you had to tune into every single

1661
01:30:59,680 --> 01:31:02,559
Speaker 3: time he pitched. Well, more like more so like the

1662
01:31:02,600 --> 01:31:04,640
Speaker 3: first and second anywhere you're like, oh, here we go

1663
01:31:05,320 --> 01:31:08,960
Speaker 3: thirty five already, yep in the first. Good for him though,

1664
01:31:08,960 --> 01:31:14,800
Speaker 3: because it's still working. He's still he's still mowing them down.

1665
01:31:14,880 --> 01:31:17,720
Speaker 2: Well, what didn't work He had to get Tommy John Sargeow,

1666
01:31:18,200 --> 01:31:22,559
Speaker 2: it'll be a bat shocker. Yes, I would have thought

1667
01:31:23,320 --> 01:31:26,040
Speaker 2: that that much stress on the elbow would cause that.

1668
01:31:26,760 --> 01:31:29,080
Speaker 2: I just remember when I used to have to produce

1669
01:31:29,120 --> 01:31:31,720
Speaker 2: the games that he pitched. Oh and you want to talk,

1670
01:31:31,880 --> 01:31:33,479
Speaker 2: You knew you were in for a long one. As

1671
01:31:33,600 --> 01:31:36,559
Speaker 2: John Rothstein likes to call losing a bye game the

1672
01:31:36,560 --> 01:31:41,080
Speaker 2: epitome of brutality. Yeah, yeah, producing a Tyler Balley game,

1673
01:31:41,160 --> 01:31:43,760
Speaker 2: we have one hour remaining. By the way, I got

1674
01:31:43,760 --> 01:31:47,240
Speaker 2: to produce the Red spring training game tomorrow. Yeah, gosh,

1675
01:31:47,520 --> 01:31:51,120
Speaker 2: I just want to apologize, not today, not today. I

1676
01:31:51,200 --> 01:31:54,840
Speaker 2: just want to apologize tomorrow to the affiliates. So I'm

1677
01:31:54,840 --> 01:31:55,760
Speaker 2: gonna screw it up.

1678
01:31:57,720 --> 01:31:59,800
Speaker 3: We'll take a break. We got a lot on the

1679
01:31:59,800 --> 01:32:02,559
Speaker 3: backs an hour number three. We've got some college hoops

1680
01:32:02,600 --> 01:32:04,880
Speaker 3: and your phone calls five one, three, seven, four, nine,

1681
01:32:04,920 --> 01:32:07,320
Speaker 3: fifteen thirty. Get the calls in. We'll try to open

1682
01:32:07,400 --> 01:32:09,320
Speaker 3: up the hour with some of those. Next on ESPN

1683
01:32:09,360 --> 01:32:12,400
Speaker 3: fifteen thirty, Cincinnati Sports Station is.

1684
01:32:12,320 --> 01:32:18,280
Speaker 1: Tony Pike, Cincy Grease sixty about Cincinnati from Cincinnati. This

1685
01:32:18,360 --> 01:32:22,799
Speaker 1: is ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati Sports Station.

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Speaker 3: All right, welcome back. It is hour three. Welcome in,

1687
01:32:27,360 --> 01:32:31,679
Speaker 3: Thanks for listening along. Phone lines open five to one, three, seven, four, nine,

1688
01:32:31,760 --> 01:32:34,600
Speaker 3: fifteen thirty. We've got some college hoops and some Bengals

1689
01:32:34,960 --> 01:32:37,080
Speaker 3: to get to. In the third and final hour, we'll

1690
01:32:37,080 --> 01:32:40,400
Speaker 3: welcome in Chad Breundle, who's in for Moagar? Why Austin

1691
01:32:40,479 --> 01:32:44,240
Speaker 3: is Chad in for Moegar? People are wondering because Mo's

1692
01:32:44,280 --> 01:32:46,760
Speaker 3: on the call tonight. Yeah, in Lubbock, Texas. That's the

1693
01:32:46,800 --> 01:32:51,080
Speaker 3: big reason Lubbock, Texas gets Moegar. That's where the Red

1694
01:32:51,160 --> 01:32:55,040
Speaker 3: Raiders are located. The Red Raid is also called a

1695
01:32:55,040 --> 01:32:58,680
Speaker 3: game two years ago in Lubbock, Texas, when Texas Tech

1696
01:32:58,840 --> 01:33:03,360
Speaker 3: narrowly beat UC in football. Do you think Brendan Soarsby's

1697
01:33:03,400 --> 01:33:04,280
Speaker 3: in attendance tonight?

1698
01:33:04,640 --> 01:33:04,960
Speaker 2: Yes.

1699
01:33:05,320 --> 01:33:08,400
Speaker 3: Do you think he's obnoxiously wearing Texas Tech here on

1700
01:33:08,400 --> 01:33:09,000
Speaker 3: the court.

1701
01:33:08,960 --> 01:33:12,439
Speaker 2: No, I don't. Okay, you think he's neutral? No, I

1702
01:33:12,479 --> 01:33:14,439
Speaker 2: think he'll wear Texas Tech here. I don't think he'll

1703
01:33:14,439 --> 01:33:18,160
Speaker 2: be obnoxious. Okay. Obnoxious is like face painting. Okay, yeah,

1704
01:33:18,160 --> 01:33:20,360
Speaker 2: sure you know a tail coming out. Obnoxious will be

1705
01:33:20,400 --> 01:33:23,120
Speaker 2: me if you see wins. Yeah, I'm not kidding. I'm

1706
01:33:23,120 --> 01:33:25,519
Speaker 2: not coming to work tomorrow. I'm not either going to

1707
01:33:25,600 --> 01:33:27,320
Speaker 2: deal with it. If you get a call about two

1708
01:33:27,320 --> 01:33:30,720
Speaker 2: in the morning tonight, which would random for me pick

1709
01:33:30,800 --> 01:33:32,720
Speaker 2: up because it might be my only call. Texted me

1710
01:33:32,760 --> 01:33:36,280
Speaker 2: at nine what was it last night? I was dead.

1711
01:33:36,479 --> 01:33:39,080
Speaker 3: Well, I'm just telling you if you get a call

1712
01:33:39,280 --> 01:33:41,240
Speaker 3: you it might be my only one.

1713
01:33:41,040 --> 01:33:45,519
Speaker 2: At nine to twelve pm last night about something, and

1714
01:33:45,600 --> 01:33:50,200
Speaker 2: I was I was asleep a player prop. I saw

1715
01:33:50,240 --> 01:33:52,559
Speaker 2: that bad boy at six two am. Yep.

1716
01:33:53,160 --> 01:33:57,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, nothing worse than rolling over six am and just

1717
01:33:57,040 --> 01:33:58,120
Speaker 3: seeing like the thumbs up.

1718
01:33:58,160 --> 01:33:59,880
Speaker 2: I'm like, all right, good to know he got it

1719
01:34:00,640 --> 01:34:01,320
Speaker 2: back to bed.

1720
01:34:02,920 --> 01:34:03,080
Speaker 4: Uh.

1721
01:34:03,360 --> 01:34:04,200
Speaker 2: Greg, what's going on?

1722
01:34:04,320 --> 01:34:04,479
Speaker 4: Man?

1723
01:34:04,479 --> 01:34:06,679
Speaker 2: How are you good? How's it going?

1724
01:34:07,040 --> 01:34:07,360
Speaker 7: First?

1725
01:34:07,400 --> 01:34:08,960
Speaker 2: I have a question, Yes, do.

1726
01:34:08,960 --> 01:34:13,559
Speaker 21: You guys have bad back? Bad back? Keep Bryant in

1727
01:34:13,640 --> 01:34:14,759
Speaker 21: the opening day lineup?

1728
01:34:15,880 --> 01:34:19,559
Speaker 3: I think he'll be in my opinion, who you will

1729
01:34:19,600 --> 01:34:21,479
Speaker 3: back ninth in the opening day lineup?

1730
01:34:21,560 --> 01:34:24,160
Speaker 2: Yeah? I agree, that's fine.

1731
01:34:24,360 --> 01:34:24,720
Speaker 21: You know what.

1732
01:34:25,560 --> 01:34:27,120
Speaker 8: I just liked that so much.

1733
01:34:28,040 --> 01:34:29,840
Speaker 21: I ain't an Actually I hardly ever call him. I

1734
01:34:29,880 --> 01:34:32,600
Speaker 21: actually called Mo about him the other day, and you

1735
01:34:32,680 --> 01:34:36,679
Speaker 21: know what, mostaid, just putting perspective, I was about being

1736
01:34:36,720 --> 01:34:39,479
Speaker 21: stuck with him most of I'll tell you we're stuck

1737
01:34:39,479 --> 01:34:42,720
Speaker 21: with him the rest of the decade. So anyway, you know,

1738
01:34:42,840 --> 01:34:45,000
Speaker 21: enough with that. But a main question or what I

1739
01:34:45,040 --> 01:34:49,040
Speaker 21: was going to tell you, Uh, my daughter Amy, she

1740
01:34:49,160 --> 01:34:53,800
Speaker 21: has like twenty eight straight opening days. Wow, and a

1741
01:34:53,840 --> 01:34:55,760
Speaker 21: lot of them, a lot of them. I've gone with

1742
01:34:55,800 --> 01:35:01,320
Speaker 21: her and the last year uh, let's see.

1743
01:35:01,800 --> 01:35:02,240
Speaker 7: Uh.

1744
01:35:02,360 --> 01:35:04,519
Speaker 21: Well, the thing is what they do is they put

1745
01:35:04,560 --> 01:35:06,400
Speaker 21: your name up there. How many I think she.

1746
01:35:06,439 --> 01:35:07,679
Speaker 2: Was twenty seven? Sure?

1747
01:35:08,520 --> 01:35:12,599
Speaker 21: Last year he had scout seats and everything's great.

1748
01:35:12,640 --> 01:35:16,000
Speaker 22: I'm with my daughter opening day. Tito's here in town,

1749
01:35:16,000 --> 01:35:20,559
Speaker 22: blah blah blah. Everything was great until the bullpen door

1750
01:35:20,640 --> 01:35:24,680
Speaker 22: opened and then enrolled your boat. And she said to me,

1751
01:35:25,680 --> 01:35:27,880
Speaker 22: I didn't think he was our closure. I said, well

1752
01:35:27,880 --> 01:35:30,559
Speaker 22: he is today, so we know how that went. So anyway,

1753
01:35:30,560 --> 01:35:33,040
Speaker 22: the reason I bringing this up she told me over

1754
01:35:33,080 --> 01:35:35,679
Speaker 22: the weekend and said, hey, did I got I got

1755
01:35:35,720 --> 01:35:39,920
Speaker 22: scout seats? Scout seats again. I thought, oh, that's great.

1756
01:35:40,400 --> 01:35:45,880
Speaker 22: She said to me, it's your boat, finished post on

1757
01:35:46,200 --> 01:35:49,880
Speaker 22: the roster, so I said, she said, well, I said,

1758
01:35:49,880 --> 01:35:52,160
Speaker 22: well it's Pugne And you know, I even heard what

1759
01:35:52,200 --> 01:35:54,599
Speaker 22: she said about gone. You know, he's decent, but he's

1760
01:35:54,640 --> 01:35:58,880
Speaker 22: not necessarily the guy. But it's not nice to say,

1761
01:35:58,960 --> 01:36:06,040
Speaker 22: but I said, this year, yeah, there ain't been any

1762
01:36:06,080 --> 01:36:07,240
Speaker 22: sightings on Jibbo's.

1763
01:36:07,240 --> 01:36:08,280
Speaker 7: Anybody know where he is.

1764
01:36:08,760 --> 01:36:11,560
Speaker 2: I don't know. I haven't seen anything. I don't know

1765
01:36:11,600 --> 01:36:13,639
Speaker 2: if he's going to pitch in the World Baseball Classic

1766
01:36:13,680 --> 01:36:16,920
Speaker 2: because he pitched for Great Britain the last time the

1767
01:36:16,920 --> 01:36:21,120
Speaker 2: World Baseball Classic came around. But I don't know. Yeah.

1768
01:36:21,600 --> 01:36:23,360
Speaker 21: No, she said to me, So I know you don't

1769
01:36:23,439 --> 01:36:25,519
Speaker 21: like him. I said, not about not liking him, I

1770
01:36:25,560 --> 01:36:30,920
Speaker 21: just don't trust him. So when she said to me, Hey,

1771
01:36:31,040 --> 01:36:32,800
Speaker 21: I got scalt seats again this year?

1772
01:36:33,200 --> 01:36:34,040
Speaker 2: Okay, I saw.

1773
01:36:34,040 --> 01:36:35,519
Speaker 21: I think it'll be better last year.

1774
01:36:37,640 --> 01:36:39,720
Speaker 2: All right, thanks, Greg, appreciate that.

1775
01:36:40,360 --> 01:36:43,360
Speaker 3: I remember last year because I was a talking point

1776
01:36:43,439 --> 01:36:45,679
Speaker 3: leading into the game. Who's going to be the closer?

1777
01:36:46,880 --> 01:36:49,160
Speaker 3: Do you remember your initial reaction when the door opened?

1778
01:36:50,320 --> 01:36:50,599
Speaker 8: Uh?

1779
01:36:50,680 --> 01:36:53,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, my head was someone along along the lines. I

1780
01:36:53,520 --> 01:36:56,640
Speaker 2: was sunk in my seat. No way, Yeah, like, what

1781
01:36:56,720 --> 01:36:59,840
Speaker 2: are we doing? I and Jebbou does not have a current.

1782
01:37:00,040 --> 01:37:02,080
Speaker 2: I think there are I think there are times when

1783
01:37:03,120 --> 01:37:05,759
Speaker 2: this this is gonna sound bad. I was theorizing about

1784
01:37:05,760 --> 01:37:09,280
Speaker 2: this the other day. When a new manager or a

1785
01:37:09,360 --> 01:37:14,639
Speaker 2: new coordinator or whomever comes to a team and they

1786
01:37:14,720 --> 01:37:17,599
Speaker 2: sometimes don't know the players as well as the fans

1787
01:37:17,680 --> 01:37:20,919
Speaker 2: know that I think so, which is hard to fathom,

1788
01:37:21,400 --> 01:37:23,720
Speaker 2: but I do think that's true. I think that was

1789
01:37:23,760 --> 01:37:26,639
Speaker 2: the case with Jalen Davis last year. Jalen Davis should

1790
01:37:26,640 --> 01:37:29,360
Speaker 2: have been on the team from Jump Street. He was

1791
01:37:29,680 --> 01:37:32,599
Speaker 2: really good in the final half of last year. Al

1792
01:37:32,680 --> 01:37:35,559
Speaker 2: Golden should should have known about Jalen Davis, who, by

1793
01:37:35,560 --> 01:37:39,000
Speaker 2: the way, was here when Al was here before. But

1794
01:37:39,439 --> 01:37:41,879
Speaker 2: I think Terry frank Cone is just like, oh yeah,

1795
01:37:41,920 --> 01:37:44,519
Speaker 2: here's the sheet on Ian Jibbo. He'll he'll take care

1796
01:37:44,560 --> 01:37:46,800
Speaker 2: of us. There's a guy. Ian Jebou is not a

1797
01:37:46,800 --> 01:37:50,000
Speaker 2: good player. No, we agree on that. I think, you know,

1798
01:37:50,240 --> 01:37:55,200
Speaker 2: just sometimes the fans no more. Yeah, sometimes that's true.

1799
01:37:56,520 --> 01:37:58,960
Speaker 3: News out of out of the combine right now, Jordan

1800
01:37:59,040 --> 01:38:03,439
Speaker 3: Schultz reporting that the Vikings have had trade talks with

1801
01:38:03,920 --> 01:38:09,240
Speaker 3: teams regarding two time Pro Bowler Javon Hargrave, their defensive

1802
01:38:09,240 --> 01:38:12,360
Speaker 3: tackle fifteen game last year. He started three and a

1803
01:38:12,400 --> 01:38:15,599
Speaker 3: half sacks in his first year with Minnesota. I mean,

1804
01:38:15,600 --> 01:38:17,439
Speaker 3: if this were James Rapeen, he'd already have that out

1805
01:38:17,439 --> 01:38:19,000
Speaker 3: there that the Bengals need to go make a move

1806
01:38:19,000 --> 01:38:19,599
Speaker 3: for Hargrave.

1807
01:38:19,800 --> 01:38:23,240
Speaker 2: Are we sure he doesn't. That's a great point. He

1808
01:38:23,320 --> 01:38:26,559
Speaker 2: has one of the best nicknames in the NFL. Hargrave. Yeah,

1809
01:38:26,600 --> 01:38:31,360
Speaker 2: what is it? Grave Digger? Yeah? I like that. All right,

1810
01:38:31,439 --> 01:38:35,280
Speaker 2: I'm in on Hargrave. What about in all? How old

1811
01:38:35,360 --> 01:38:37,439
Speaker 2: is How old is he? Oh, it's a good question.

1812
01:38:37,760 --> 01:38:41,640
Speaker 2: Let's find it out. He's thirty three? Oh oh, no,

1813
01:38:42,640 --> 01:38:47,639
Speaker 2: one year deal? Well, what's his current contract? He would

1814
01:38:47,680 --> 01:38:52,639
Speaker 2: be traded? Look it up right now, I'm looking it up.

1815
01:38:52,680 --> 01:38:55,200
Speaker 3: He signed a two year deal in twenty twenty five

1816
01:38:55,479 --> 01:38:59,479
Speaker 3: with the Minnesota Vikings. So he one year left on

1817
01:38:59,479 --> 01:38:59,800
Speaker 3: his deal.

1818
01:39:00,120 --> 01:39:04,599
Speaker 2: Base salary next year fourteen point two millie. Now that's

1819
01:39:04,640 --> 01:39:06,479
Speaker 2: a lot. I don't think the Bengals are gonna do that.

1820
01:39:06,479 --> 01:39:07,040
Speaker 2: That's a lot.

1821
01:39:07,640 --> 01:39:10,439
Speaker 3: But according to Schultz, there are teams that are having

1822
01:39:10,479 --> 01:39:12,519
Speaker 3: talks with the Minnesota Vikings. I'd just be interested to

1823
01:39:12,560 --> 01:39:16,360
Speaker 3: see if a move is made, what kind of compensation

1824
01:39:16,439 --> 01:39:17,800
Speaker 3: they would get back for a guy like that.

1825
01:39:18,439 --> 01:39:20,880
Speaker 2: I could tell you kind of set the market. I

1826
01:39:20,880 --> 01:39:24,200
Speaker 2: could tell you what is it. Seventh round pick? You think? Yeah,

1827
01:39:24,280 --> 01:39:26,799
Speaker 2: thirty three year old with one year left at fifteen

1828
01:39:26,840 --> 01:39:30,000
Speaker 2: million dollars. All right, he had a sixty eight overall

1829
01:39:30,040 --> 01:39:33,040
Speaker 2: grade and twenty twenty five. According to pro football folks

1830
01:39:33,920 --> 01:39:36,760
Speaker 2: Crave Digger, he's worth a seventh round pick for sure,

1831
01:39:36,880 --> 01:39:41,040
Speaker 2: a sixth if you take half the salary. Now we're talking, yeah,

1832
01:39:41,120 --> 01:39:43,640
Speaker 2: now we're getting that. Duke Tobin did id going? Now

1833
01:39:43,640 --> 01:39:47,439
Speaker 2: if Duke's late to his press conference today, anybody got

1834
01:39:47,439 --> 01:39:49,040
Speaker 2: who's the GM of the Vikings right now?

1835
01:39:49,040 --> 01:39:52,840
Speaker 3: Because remember they just canned Old Boy by committee. They're

1836
01:39:52,880 --> 01:39:57,879
Speaker 3: allowing fans for the day to be gms. Um the

1837
01:39:58,040 --> 01:40:02,439
Speaker 3: vision from the Bengals and vision Cincy to host the

1838
01:40:02,560 --> 01:40:04,880
Speaker 3: NFL Draft in Cincinnati.

1839
01:40:05,000 --> 01:40:06,080
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1840
01:40:06,600 --> 01:40:14,639
Speaker 3: This this states from the Cincinnati Business Courier. You printed

1841
01:40:14,680 --> 01:40:18,240
Speaker 3: this off today that the formal step included an amendment

1842
01:40:18,240 --> 01:40:21,240
Speaker 3: that the team is targeting twenty twenty eight or twenty

1843
01:40:21,280 --> 01:40:24,600
Speaker 3: twenty nine to host this massive event. When they have

1844
01:40:24,760 --> 01:40:27,960
Speaker 3: first put this out there, twenty twenty seven was in

1845
01:40:28,000 --> 01:40:31,000
Speaker 3: the request. That is no longer in the request, but

1846
01:40:31,080 --> 01:40:33,479
Speaker 3: they do have twenty twenty eight in twenty twenty nine.

1847
01:40:33,920 --> 01:40:37,200
Speaker 3: They're also looking at the highly the success they had

1848
01:40:37,240 --> 01:40:42,760
Speaker 3: in Green Bay being a smaller market. So look, I'm

1849
01:40:42,800 --> 01:40:45,000
Speaker 3: all for this. I'm all for it for the city

1850
01:40:45,000 --> 01:40:48,599
Speaker 3: of Cincinnati. It makes sense to me, Austin because now

1851
01:40:48,680 --> 01:40:52,960
Speaker 3: with the Duke Energy Center renovation being done, is that

1852
01:40:53,000 --> 01:40:54,560
Speaker 3: where they're talking about they would host this.

1853
01:40:54,880 --> 01:40:57,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, so from my understanding, and I was talking to

1854
01:40:57,800 --> 01:41:00,880
Speaker 2: Brian Combs down the hall on from the seven hundred

1855
01:41:00,920 --> 01:41:05,519
Speaker 2: WLW newsroom about this, and he made it sound like

1856
01:41:05,600 --> 01:41:09,960
Speaker 2: the plan would be where this new plaza is with

1857
01:41:10,080 --> 01:41:13,960
Speaker 2: the Elm Street plaza, okay, right across from where the

1858
01:41:14,280 --> 01:41:17,080
Speaker 2: convention center is, and they're also working on a hotel

1859
01:41:17,120 --> 01:41:19,960
Speaker 2: there on the corner of Fifth and Elm that is

1860
01:41:20,080 --> 01:41:23,240
Speaker 2: expected to be done by twenty twenty seven. The hotel

1861
01:41:23,280 --> 01:41:25,360
Speaker 2: would be a huge part of this. Now we've talked

1862
01:41:25,360 --> 01:41:29,240
Speaker 2: about this in the past. We've talked about the museum center,

1863
01:41:29,439 --> 01:41:32,719
Speaker 2: We've talked about the banks, We've talked about finally putting

1864
01:41:32,720 --> 01:41:35,800
Speaker 2: that damn cap on over Second and third Street over

1865
01:41:35,840 --> 01:41:40,120
Speaker 2: seventy one. But based off of this, it would be

1866
01:41:40,160 --> 01:41:47,080
Speaker 2: in that plaza area between elm Race, fifth and sixth,

1867
01:41:47,560 --> 01:41:50,360
Speaker 2: right next to the Convention Center and where that new hotel.

1868
01:41:50,479 --> 01:41:52,640
Speaker 3: Always kind of thought it would be somewhere near the

1869
01:41:52,680 --> 01:41:54,559
Speaker 3: banks of the river, but I could see it being there.

1870
01:41:54,800 --> 01:41:59,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I'm trying to in theory. That seems like

1871
01:41:59,880 --> 01:42:03,640
Speaker 2: a really small area, but I think it's bigger than

1872
01:42:03,640 --> 01:42:07,520
Speaker 2: you think. It's probably comparable to where it was in Detroit.

1873
01:42:07,920 --> 01:42:10,400
Speaker 2: So I was around Detroit when they were I was

1874
01:42:10,400 --> 01:42:13,120
Speaker 2: in Detroit when they were preparing for the draft, and

1875
01:42:13,200 --> 01:42:15,040
Speaker 2: I thought, Wow, that's not as big as I thought

1876
01:42:15,040 --> 01:42:17,560
Speaker 2: it would be. Yeah, they still stuffed a bunch of

1877
01:42:17,560 --> 01:42:20,920
Speaker 2: people in there. Green Bay. I was just where that

1878
01:42:21,040 --> 01:42:22,840
Speaker 2: draft was at as well, And that is just a

1879
01:42:22,880 --> 01:42:26,280
Speaker 2: massive area of space, and that is an area of

1880
01:42:26,280 --> 01:42:27,920
Speaker 2: the country they can't get enough football. I don't know

1881
01:42:27,960 --> 01:42:31,320
Speaker 2: if that's ever gonna be top, but yeah, it says

1882
01:42:31,360 --> 01:42:34,360
Speaker 2: I think the NFL wants to do it at every

1883
01:42:34,880 --> 01:42:37,679
Speaker 2: single one of these NFL city It says.

1884
01:42:37,720 --> 01:42:42,479
Speaker 3: Now that the Bengals have replied to the NFL's request

1885
01:42:42,560 --> 01:42:45,640
Speaker 3: for information, the next step in the process would be

1886
01:42:45,640 --> 01:42:47,960
Speaker 3: for the NFL to give Cincinnati to go ahead for

1887
01:42:48,000 --> 01:42:52,200
Speaker 3: submitting a formal request. After that, the league would conduct

1888
01:42:52,240 --> 01:42:55,280
Speaker 3: a series of on site visits to determine where the

1889
01:42:55,320 --> 01:42:57,640
Speaker 3: fan festival in the main stage would be located and

1890
01:42:57,680 --> 01:43:01,439
Speaker 3: how fans could move arounte move around logistically. There's also

1891
01:43:01,479 --> 01:43:05,080
Speaker 3: the economic impact of this. The economic impact in Green Bay,

1892
01:43:05,080 --> 01:43:07,800
Speaker 3: Austin was estimated at one hundred million dollars by the

1893
01:43:07,840 --> 01:43:13,280
Speaker 3: Greater Green Bay Chamber. Detroit had a total economic impact

1894
01:43:13,280 --> 01:43:19,320
Speaker 3: of two hundred and thirteen million dollars, so obviously a financial.

1895
01:43:20,640 --> 01:43:23,680
Speaker 2: Component to this as well. Here's my assumption would be

1896
01:43:24,880 --> 01:43:29,120
Speaker 2: that the stage would be kind of on Sixth Street

1897
01:43:30,080 --> 01:43:35,000
Speaker 2: facing south towards where that Higatt Regency Hotel is, So

1898
01:43:35,439 --> 01:43:38,800
Speaker 2: on Sixth facing fifth Street. So if you're on the

1899
01:43:38,840 --> 01:43:41,479
Speaker 2: stage looking out, the Convention Center is to your right

1900
01:43:42,360 --> 01:43:45,640
Speaker 2: and that other building is to your left, It's like

1901
01:43:45,680 --> 01:43:49,240
Speaker 2: where eighty four to fifty one is and all those places,

1902
01:43:49,960 --> 01:43:55,120
Speaker 2: so that would be my assumption. And the fans area

1903
01:43:55,160 --> 01:43:58,960
Speaker 2: would obviously be inside the convention center, and that would

1904
01:43:59,000 --> 01:44:01,440
Speaker 2: that I think makes the most since from a setup.

1905
01:44:01,120 --> 01:44:04,320
Speaker 3: Stand be interesting. I hope it has to be a

1906
01:44:04,360 --> 01:44:05,760
Speaker 3: lot of fun to have. I think it'd be cool

1907
01:44:05,800 --> 01:44:07,280
Speaker 3: as hell. Do you think we could be at that one?

1908
01:44:07,439 --> 01:44:09,920
Speaker 2: I doubt it. I do not have a lot of

1909
01:44:09,920 --> 01:44:13,160
Speaker 2: faith and our ability, even in our own hometown to

1910
01:44:13,200 --> 01:44:18,040
Speaker 2: get our people to something like that. Good point. Let's

1911
01:44:18,080 --> 01:44:20,280
Speaker 2: grab a quick break here to start hour three. We've

1912
01:44:20,320 --> 01:44:23,720
Speaker 2: still got a couple draft scenarios. I know it's it's

1913
01:44:23,760 --> 01:44:25,720
Speaker 2: not mock draft Monday. I still want to dive into

1914
01:44:25,760 --> 01:44:28,360
Speaker 2: a few of these different scenarios. We'll take some phone

1915
01:44:28,360 --> 01:44:31,680
Speaker 2: calls and some draft comparisons as well. On Since he

1916
01:44:31,720 --> 01:44:34,400
Speaker 2: three to sixty ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station.

1917
01:44:35,000 --> 01:44:39,080
Speaker 1: From locker room whispers to stadium roars, He's got it

1918
01:44:39,120 --> 01:44:46,640
Speaker 1: all Moeger today at three pm on ESPN fifteen thirty.

1919
01:44:46,000 --> 01:44:56,639
Speaker 3: REESECRT Welcome back, Since e three sixty on ESPN fifteen

1920
01:44:56,720 --> 01:45:01,680
Speaker 3: thirty Cincinnati Sports Station. Chad will join us today for

1921
01:45:01,760 --> 01:45:03,840
Speaker 3: quick kids. He's in for Moagrick Moa was on the

1922
01:45:03,880 --> 01:45:08,080
Speaker 3: call tonight with UH with Terry Nelson in Lubbock, Texas.

1923
01:45:08,439 --> 01:45:12,880
Speaker 3: Dan Horde, we believe has combined duties. So a lot,

1924
01:45:13,400 --> 01:45:17,599
Speaker 3: a lot that will still happen between now and three o'clock.

1925
01:45:17,640 --> 01:45:20,240
Speaker 3: Can I throw some of a friend of the show,

1926
01:45:20,320 --> 01:45:24,960
Speaker 3: Lance erloin player comparisons at you here? Okay, these are interesting,

1927
01:45:25,080 --> 01:45:27,559
Speaker 3: I guess sure. First, okay, all right, let me give

1928
01:45:27,560 --> 01:45:31,439
Speaker 3: you the first one. Fernando Mendoza. Fernando Mendoza, Kirk Cousins,

1929
01:45:33,080 --> 01:45:37,479
Speaker 3: Lance says, Joe Burrow. Okay, so right off the bat,

1930
01:45:38,640 --> 01:45:41,120
Speaker 3: Right off the bat, I'm like, holy cow, Now I'm now,

1931
01:45:41,120 --> 01:45:42,920
Speaker 3: I'm in all right, now, I gotta see what else

1932
01:45:43,000 --> 01:45:43,479
Speaker 3: is going on.

1933
01:45:44,720 --> 01:45:47,040
Speaker 2: I don't get it. I don't get it. No, does

1934
01:45:47,080 --> 01:45:47,519
Speaker 2: he explain?

1935
01:45:47,640 --> 01:45:51,320
Speaker 3: Now, this is just a tweet where he's giving the comparisons. Okay,

1936
01:45:51,320 --> 01:45:55,080
Speaker 3: all right, give me the next one, Ty Simpson, Kirk Cousins,

1937
01:45:55,320 --> 01:45:56,000
Speaker 3: Mac Jones.

1938
01:45:57,200 --> 01:46:01,840
Speaker 2: I could see that one. That makes sense? Us? Did

1939
01:46:01,920 --> 01:46:03,080
Speaker 2: Joe Burrow Mendoza?

1940
01:46:03,240 --> 01:46:10,560
Speaker 3: Come on? What about Jeremiah Love, Adrian Peterson, Jamier Gibbs.

1941
01:46:08,600 --> 01:46:12,800
Speaker 3: Oh yes, that was an easy one.

1942
01:46:12,840 --> 01:46:18,479
Speaker 2: Carnell tap Garrett Wilson, Chris Olave, I'm not good at

1943
01:46:18,479 --> 01:46:25,599
Speaker 2: this game. Mackay Lemon, Romadonsay, I'm in Ross sint Brown.

1944
01:46:28,040 --> 01:46:29,840
Speaker 2: Not really much on the offensive side of the ball,

1945
01:46:30,520 --> 01:46:36,920
Speaker 2: but the defensive side of the ball. Ruben Bain, Ruben Bain,

1946
01:46:41,439 --> 01:46:46,320
Speaker 2: Joey Bosa, Brandon Graham. Would you take a Brandon Graham? Yes,

1947
01:46:46,360 --> 01:46:52,519
Speaker 2: I would. What about David Bailey? This is a player

1948
01:46:52,520 --> 01:46:56,120
Speaker 2: I would definitely take from the Denver Broncos. Would that

1949
01:46:56,160 --> 01:46:56,880
Speaker 2: be Nick Benito?

1950
01:46:57,040 --> 01:47:04,920
Speaker 3: Nick Benito, Peter Woods, Aaron Donald, Christian Wilkins, Eron Donald,

1951
01:47:04,960 --> 01:47:10,320
Speaker 3: I'm running to the podium again. Sonny Styles, Bobby Wagner,

1952
01:47:10,600 --> 01:47:13,559
Speaker 3: Fred Warner. Oh, if I'm getting Fred Warner at number ten,

1953
01:47:13,640 --> 01:47:14,120
Speaker 3: I'll take it.

1954
01:47:14,200 --> 01:47:19,080
Speaker 2: I didn't realize how big Sonny Styles was until I've

1955
01:47:19,120 --> 01:47:22,680
Speaker 2: been I've watched every Ohio State game. I guess I

1956
01:47:22,760 --> 01:47:26,680
Speaker 2: didn't click with me until now that Sonny Styles is

1957
01:47:26,760 --> 01:47:29,360
Speaker 2: six foot four, two hundred and forty three pounds. He's

1958
01:47:29,360 --> 01:47:32,120
Speaker 2: gonna run a four five forty Okay, I'd take that

1959
01:47:32,160 --> 01:47:35,559
Speaker 2: on a defense. Uh huh. Listen to this one.

1960
01:47:35,640 --> 01:47:41,280
Speaker 3: Rvel Reese, Michael Parsons Na, No one, okay, no one,

1961
01:47:41,479 --> 01:47:45,200
Speaker 3: says Lance Some other names on this list. Now this

1962
01:47:45,360 --> 01:47:47,960
Speaker 3: is not a current player, but was a former Bengal

1963
01:47:48,360 --> 01:47:58,679
Speaker 3: Keldric Falk, Carl Awson, Carlos Dunlop. Oh, what about Caleb Downs,

1964
01:48:00,120 --> 01:48:01,839
Speaker 3: Jesse Fates close?

1965
01:48:01,960 --> 01:48:06,400
Speaker 2: Would that be funny? Justin Simmons now, Jalen Petrie? Oh wow?

1966
01:48:06,439 --> 01:48:10,120
Speaker 2: Would you take Petrie for Caleb Downs at number ten? Yeah?

1967
01:48:10,240 --> 01:48:11,040
Speaker 2: A couple of the other ones.

1968
01:48:11,080 --> 01:48:14,840
Speaker 3: Jermald McCoy, Tyson Campbell, Mansor Delaney, Quinnon, Mitchell.

1969
01:48:15,080 --> 01:48:19,800
Speaker 2: I'm starting to I'm starting to buy into the corner thing. Yeah.

1970
01:48:19,840 --> 01:48:21,720
Speaker 3: Well, I tell you what I'm buying into. If if

1971
01:48:21,840 --> 01:48:26,200
Speaker 3: Sonny Styles is Fred Warner, I'll take that at at

1972
01:48:26,280 --> 01:48:26,680
Speaker 3: number ten.

1973
01:48:26,760 --> 01:48:28,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, you don't care about the price tag, now, don't care.

1974
01:48:29,479 --> 01:48:34,639
Speaker 2: I'm taking that player. I'd be all down to it.

1975
01:48:35,680 --> 01:48:41,000
Speaker 3: That's also something Austin that Paul Danner Junior did when

1976
01:48:41,000 --> 01:48:44,280
Speaker 3: the Athletic held its beat writer mock draft. He took

1977
01:48:44,600 --> 01:48:48,400
Speaker 3: Ohio State linebacker Sonny Styles. He said it came down

1978
01:48:48,439 --> 01:48:51,200
Speaker 3: to Styles and Delaney and what the Bengals doing. Free

1979
01:48:51,240 --> 01:48:53,960
Speaker 3: agency might provide the tiebreaker, but Styles would be a

1980
01:48:54,000 --> 01:48:55,919
Speaker 3: slam dunk to drop in the middle of the defense.

1981
01:48:56,400 --> 01:48:59,519
Speaker 3: If Cincinnati handles linebacker and free agency, then Mansword Delaney

1982
01:48:59,520 --> 01:49:03,559
Speaker 3: would be the deal pick, but a player that I

1983
01:49:03,560 --> 01:49:05,599
Speaker 3: think a lot more people are starting to pay attention

1984
01:49:05,720 --> 01:49:09,240
Speaker 3: to because what we're seeing with other players right like

1985
01:49:09,840 --> 01:49:13,799
Speaker 3: we just talked about with Joe Daneman, all of a sudden,

1986
01:49:13,800 --> 01:49:16,280
Speaker 3: you're starting to see Caleb Down's name a lot higher

1987
01:49:16,280 --> 01:49:20,000
Speaker 3: in these mock drafts, you know, as of today, and

1988
01:49:20,240 --> 01:49:26,519
Speaker 3: you've major feelings on mel Kiper known mel Kuiper had

1989
01:49:26,560 --> 01:49:30,840
Speaker 3: Caleb Downs going number two overall, David Bailey three, Rvel

1990
01:49:30,920 --> 01:49:35,479
Speaker 3: Reas four, and then got down to number ten and

1991
01:49:35,520 --> 01:49:38,280
Speaker 3: had Reuben Bain Junior still on the board for the Bengals,

1992
01:49:38,760 --> 01:49:43,719
Speaker 3: which again I'm fine with that as well. But the

1993
01:49:43,720 --> 01:49:46,680
Speaker 3: the interesting one here to me, and what I kind

1994
01:49:46,720 --> 01:49:49,840
Speaker 3: of want to get your opinion on, is what Joe

1995
01:49:49,920 --> 01:49:53,920
Speaker 3: Goodberry laid out. Because Joe Goodberry, who friend of the show,

1996
01:49:53,960 --> 01:49:57,200
Speaker 3: obviously went through and did a mock draft and he

1997
01:49:57,280 --> 01:50:02,519
Speaker 3: asked the question, if you if you're not able to

1998
01:50:02,680 --> 01:50:08,360
Speaker 3: trade down, where are you looking? Because his his mock

1999
01:50:08,439 --> 01:50:12,960
Speaker 3: draft saw Mendoza one, Bailey two, Reaese three, Bayne four,

2000
01:50:13,640 --> 01:50:20,200
Speaker 3: Caleb Downs five, Sonny Style seven, Mansor Delaney eight. So

2001
01:50:20,280 --> 01:50:23,920
Speaker 3: you get up to the clock number ten. You've got

2002
01:50:24,280 --> 01:50:30,280
Speaker 3: Mackay Lemon, You've got Jermad McCoy. I'm trying to think

2003
01:50:30,280 --> 01:50:33,519
Speaker 3: of the other players, Peter Woods, what's the tackle from Miami?

2004
01:50:33,600 --> 01:50:38,200
Speaker 2: Francis Malinoa, so Jordan Tyson, and it's just Hal Keldrick Fulk,

2005
01:50:38,320 --> 01:50:43,880
Speaker 2: Caleb Banks. I would probably take one of the offensive.

2006
01:50:43,479 --> 01:50:48,680
Speaker 3: Linemen over the corner conversation we've had, I think so too.

2007
01:50:50,360 --> 01:50:53,960
Speaker 3: But to me, if there was a trade down scenario,

2008
01:50:55,080 --> 01:50:56,160
Speaker 3: that would be it, right.

2009
01:50:57,400 --> 01:51:00,719
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I mean clearly, because you've feel good about

2010
01:51:00,760 --> 01:51:07,679
Speaker 2: basically everybody on this list, Lemon, Maliinoah McCoy, Woods, Tyson, Howe, Fulk, Banks,

2011
01:51:07,840 --> 01:51:14,559
Speaker 2: Fanu Terrell Boston, Caden McDonald, aloviega Ione, Like, yeah, you

2012
01:51:14,600 --> 01:51:16,519
Speaker 2: feel good about every single one of those, dude, I mean,

2013
01:51:16,600 --> 01:51:18,040
Speaker 2: let me, let's go. Let's go with this.

2014
01:51:18,160 --> 01:51:21,839
Speaker 3: If it's David Bailey, r Vel Reese, Ruben Bain, Caleb

2015
01:51:21,920 --> 01:51:24,639
Speaker 3: Downs or Sonny Styles. If it's any of those five,

2016
01:51:24,680 --> 01:51:26,280
Speaker 3: you're running to the podium and turning the card. In

2017
01:51:28,640 --> 01:51:33,719
Speaker 3: anyone outside of those five, you would you would listen

2018
01:51:34,600 --> 01:51:37,720
Speaker 3: to the idea of trading back. You should be listening regardless.

2019
01:51:37,760 --> 01:51:42,320
Speaker 3: But yes, what if and again I know this is

2020
01:51:42,360 --> 01:51:45,639
Speaker 3: the crazy scenario. What if Carnell Tit or Jeremiah lover

2021
01:51:45,720 --> 01:51:48,559
Speaker 3: there at ten and what we just talked about has

2022
01:51:48,600 --> 01:51:51,479
Speaker 3: already happened. Those five core guys that right now we

2023
01:51:51,560 --> 01:51:54,759
Speaker 3: talk about a lot are off the board. But Carnell

2024
01:51:54,840 --> 01:51:57,040
Speaker 3: Tait and Jeremiah lover There.

2025
01:51:58,160 --> 01:52:01,040
Speaker 2: I don't think you should, under any circumstances consider a

2026
01:52:01,120 --> 01:52:06,679
Speaker 2: running back, Okay, Tate, I would be fine with, I think,

2027
01:52:06,800 --> 01:52:09,400
Speaker 2: and I think that would almost be the perfect scenario

2028
01:52:10,080 --> 01:52:12,120
Speaker 2: because then you might have one of those teams who

2029
01:52:12,600 --> 01:52:16,920
Speaker 2: really wants Jeremiah Love. Sure, if that's the case, they

2030
01:52:17,040 --> 01:52:18,439
Speaker 2: willing to give up a little bit more to get

2031
01:52:18,479 --> 01:52:23,840
Speaker 2: into the top ten. Yeah, okay, because I don't think

2032
01:52:23,880 --> 01:52:25,800
Speaker 2: they can justify taking running back.

2033
01:52:26,240 --> 01:52:28,840
Speaker 3: I mean there's a lot being said, and I think

2034
01:52:28,920 --> 01:52:31,040
Speaker 3: what would be hard by a lot of folks because

2035
01:52:31,040 --> 01:52:33,240
Speaker 3: they are in need of one. I could very easily

2036
01:52:33,240 --> 01:52:36,559
Speaker 3: see Jeremiah Love going to Kansas City and being a

2037
01:52:36,560 --> 01:52:39,240
Speaker 3: good fit with you know, going in right next to

2038
01:52:39,280 --> 01:52:42,760
Speaker 3: Patrick Mahomes. It would certainly give them a running game

2039
01:52:42,800 --> 01:52:46,000
Speaker 3: that they desperately need right now. But I think where

2040
01:52:46,040 --> 01:52:48,920
Speaker 3: I'm at right now, and again, it's only February twenty fourth.

2041
01:52:49,680 --> 01:52:51,680
Speaker 3: I think there's a core group of five players that

2042
01:52:51,680 --> 01:52:54,639
Speaker 3: I would sprint to the podium and take. If it's

2043
01:52:54,680 --> 01:52:57,599
Speaker 3: not those five, and I'm usually one to never entertain

2044
01:52:57,640 --> 01:53:00,360
Speaker 3: the thought of moving back, I would certainly retain it

2045
01:53:00,400 --> 01:53:03,880
Speaker 3: in this draft because the players available that we just

2046
01:53:03,920 --> 01:53:08,559
Speaker 3: went through would would still fill a position of need

2047
01:53:08,600 --> 01:53:11,800
Speaker 3: that that this team has and that this team could

2048
01:53:11,840 --> 01:53:17,240
Speaker 3: have going forward. So I think it's interesting. I again,

2049
01:53:17,280 --> 01:53:19,280
Speaker 3: I think a lot changes between now and then, but

2050
01:53:19,760 --> 01:53:23,479
Speaker 3: as we sit here towards the end of February, I

2051
01:53:23,479 --> 01:53:28,639
Speaker 3: think that's interesting. I also found this interesting. Normally, Paul

2052
01:53:28,720 --> 01:53:31,719
Speaker 3: Danner Junior joins Mo Igor on Tuesdays. Moe's not in today,

2053
01:53:32,560 --> 01:53:38,160
Speaker 3: But Paul Danner Junior explained on The Growler this week

2054
01:53:38,600 --> 01:53:43,200
Speaker 3: about Joe Burrows. I don't want to I don't like

2055
01:53:43,280 --> 01:53:47,120
Speaker 3: to use the term pressure, but you could equate it

2056
01:53:47,160 --> 01:53:48,960
Speaker 3: to the pressure that that he does put on the

2057
01:53:49,000 --> 01:53:49,960
Speaker 3: Cincinnati Bengals.

2058
01:53:50,000 --> 01:53:52,160
Speaker 2: This is I have the audio, but this is what

2059
01:53:52,160 --> 01:53:55,439
Speaker 2: Paul Dayner had to say. But I think he's kind

2060
01:53:55,479 --> 01:53:58,200
Speaker 2: of laid. He's certainly done more than just lay the

2061
01:53:58,240 --> 01:53:58,960
Speaker 2: groundwork on.

2062
01:53:59,360 --> 01:54:03,040
Speaker 23: If I'm not happy here, I don't plan on staying here,

2063
01:54:03,560 --> 01:54:06,360
Speaker 23: and he gave next year and said I'm good, like

2064
01:54:06,680 --> 01:54:08,360
Speaker 23: they're all in. But it's like when I said in

2065
01:54:08,439 --> 01:54:11,280
Speaker 23: the beginning here this being a pressure cooker year for

2066
01:54:11,280 --> 01:54:14,840
Speaker 23: the whole team. It's because Burrow kind of sets that temperature,

2067
01:54:15,000 --> 01:54:17,360
Speaker 23: like I'll give you this year, you better prove that

2068
01:54:17,400 --> 01:54:19,360
Speaker 23: you can put a team around me and we can win,

2069
01:54:20,120 --> 01:54:22,920
Speaker 23: because me and my buddy's Jamar and t might not

2070
01:54:23,040 --> 01:54:25,840
Speaker 23: want to stick around for watching you guys, you know,

2071
01:54:25,960 --> 01:54:28,160
Speaker 23: hobble through this thing and not be able to make

2072
01:54:28,200 --> 01:54:28,880
Speaker 23: anything work.

2073
01:54:29,880 --> 01:54:33,760
Speaker 3: Right before that as well, he says he's changed the

2074
01:54:33,800 --> 01:54:37,360
Speaker 3: way they've made decisions in recent years, and his lack

2075
01:54:37,360 --> 01:54:39,640
Speaker 3: of happiness, whether he says it's because he had a

2076
01:54:39,640 --> 01:54:42,680
Speaker 3: bad day to press conference or not, has major influence

2077
01:54:42,800 --> 01:54:47,000
Speaker 3: inside of the building. He has called this free agency

2078
01:54:47,440 --> 01:54:52,840
Speaker 3: paramount again, I would like to think that even if

2079
01:54:52,880 --> 01:54:56,040
Speaker 3: Joe Burrow has not said anything or has called it paramount,

2080
01:54:56,560 --> 01:54:59,640
Speaker 3: I'd like to think that the organization would still be

2081
01:54:59,720 --> 01:55:02,800
Speaker 3: a time this offseason with the same idea in the

2082
01:55:02,840 --> 01:55:06,440
Speaker 3: aggressive pursuit of a championship, as we often say. But

2083
01:55:06,600 --> 01:55:10,600
Speaker 3: this certainly doesn't hurt to nudge the Bengals in that

2084
01:55:10,680 --> 01:55:19,160
Speaker 3: direction at the very root of it. This to me

2085
01:55:19,320 --> 01:55:22,240
Speaker 3: is why this offseason is the biggest and most important

2086
01:55:22,280 --> 01:55:26,240
Speaker 3: offseason that I remember for the Cincinnati Bengals. And again,

2087
01:55:27,520 --> 01:55:31,040
Speaker 3: he wants a good defense. Paul Daniel Junior capped it

2088
01:55:31,080 --> 01:55:32,680
Speaker 3: off on the Grolet with that, he just wants a

2089
01:55:32,720 --> 01:55:36,640
Speaker 3: good defense. He doesn't care, he doesn't want to feel

2090
01:55:36,640 --> 01:55:38,560
Speaker 3: like he has to be perfect and score forty two

2091
01:55:38,600 --> 01:55:41,880
Speaker 3: every single week. He's in a good place. He just

2092
01:55:41,920 --> 01:55:45,400
Speaker 3: wants to win. I think that's kind of where everyone's at.

2093
01:55:46,920 --> 01:55:50,280
Speaker 3: You tried the experiment last year, you moved on from

2094
01:55:50,320 --> 01:55:53,440
Speaker 3: lou Ana Rumo. You thought Al Golden was going to

2095
01:55:53,480 --> 01:55:55,920
Speaker 3: put all the pieces together. It just never worked out.

2096
01:55:56,360 --> 01:55:58,880
Speaker 3: This is where we're at. And again, a lot of

2097
01:55:58,880 --> 01:56:01,800
Speaker 3: this is what we've talked about in Paul Danner Junior

2098
01:56:01,840 --> 01:56:04,680
Speaker 3: saying the quiet part out loud. It is what it

2099
01:56:04,760 --> 01:56:07,840
Speaker 3: is right now. Everyone's thinking that it's just what the

2100
01:56:07,840 --> 01:56:11,440
Speaker 3: Bengals now have to go and do. Get it done.

2101
01:56:12,280 --> 01:56:17,720
Speaker 3: Find the trade partners, find the free agents, identify them correctly,

2102
01:56:18,080 --> 01:56:20,240
Speaker 3: pay the money you need to make, and then the

2103
01:56:20,320 --> 01:56:23,440
Speaker 3: draft should feel like icing on the cakes your offseason.

2104
01:56:25,240 --> 01:56:27,200
Speaker 2: Mike is calling in, what's up?

2105
01:56:27,240 --> 01:56:31,800
Speaker 8: Mike, Hey, Johnny, I appreciate you take time taking my call.

2106
01:56:32,840 --> 01:56:33,720
Speaker 7: You guys were.

2107
01:56:33,600 --> 01:56:39,640
Speaker 8: Talking yesterday about, uh, the Trey Henderson thing and brought

2108
01:56:39,720 --> 01:56:43,640
Speaker 8: up how would like the fans feel like? Honestly, like

2109
01:56:44,440 --> 01:56:48,640
Speaker 8: I would steal, Like are you know like reader Floss,

2110
01:56:48,680 --> 01:56:50,520
Speaker 8: you know what we did, are one of our best

2111
01:56:50,520 --> 01:56:55,040
Speaker 8: defensive players. But then again, if we get a draft

2112
01:56:55,040 --> 01:56:58,760
Speaker 8: pick for it, I'm not confident in there and and

2113
01:56:58,800 --> 01:57:01,880
Speaker 8: then taking the a good player for you know what

2114
01:57:01,920 --> 01:57:02,360
Speaker 8: I'm saying.

2115
01:57:03,040 --> 01:57:05,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, and look that that to me is it's still

2116
01:57:05,600 --> 01:57:08,160
Speaker 3: going to be a concern. We know they've not drafted

2117
01:57:08,200 --> 01:57:10,840
Speaker 3: extremely well, and you know, if you're pulling a fourth

2118
01:57:10,880 --> 01:57:13,640
Speaker 3: or a fifth round pick for Trey Hendrickson, is there

2119
01:57:13,640 --> 01:57:16,520
Speaker 3: a guarantee that you feel like it's going to be

2120
01:57:17,240 --> 01:57:21,560
Speaker 3: capitalized upon? Maybe not, But to me, it just feels

2121
01:57:21,640 --> 01:57:25,640
Speaker 3: like these two sides have tried to come to an agreement.

2122
01:57:26,200 --> 01:57:28,680
Speaker 3: They have not done so they're not close to being

2123
01:57:28,720 --> 01:57:31,800
Speaker 3: on the same page. If you can salvage something, then

2124
01:57:31,840 --> 01:57:33,200
Speaker 3: I think you have to pull the trigger.

2125
01:57:33,920 --> 01:57:36,800
Speaker 8: Yeah, right, Like like I said, I don't see him

2126
01:57:37,120 --> 01:57:39,680
Speaker 8: playing in a being with uniform ever again, And I

2127
01:57:39,720 --> 01:57:42,320
Speaker 8: agree with you, You've got to at least try to

2128
01:57:42,360 --> 01:57:45,400
Speaker 8: get something out of him? Why you Why you can?

2129
01:57:47,960 --> 01:57:50,320
Speaker 3: And I think that's what makes the combine this week

2130
01:57:50,400 --> 01:57:54,000
Speaker 3: so important. On the field stuff player meetings. Yes, can

2131
01:57:54,040 --> 01:57:57,879
Speaker 3: you find a team that that hasn't needed that position

2132
01:57:58,520 --> 01:58:00,840
Speaker 3: and is willing to part ways with a fourth round

2133
01:58:00,920 --> 01:58:03,680
Speaker 3: pick at this point? That should be your main or

2134
01:58:03,720 --> 01:58:07,160
Speaker 3: one of your main goals of this upcoming combine.

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Speaker 8: All right, A couple of one more thing if you

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Speaker 8: don't mind.

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Speaker 4: It.

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Speaker 8: What about the Brian Cook? I mean, do we you

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Speaker 8: think we have a shot at signing him, I mean

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Speaker 8: bringing him back home? Or would you say do we

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Speaker 8: have a shot at a Caleb Downs?

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Speaker 3: You know, if this question were two weeks ago, I

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Speaker 3: would have said Caleb Downs. But it just feels like

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Speaker 3: there's a growing sentiment that believes that Caleb Downs is

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Speaker 3: going to be going higher in the draft. And if

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Speaker 3: that's the case, and if I'm the Bengals and I'm

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Speaker 3: operating in that sense, then I better have a backup plan.

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Speaker 3: And that backup plan could be a Brian Cook. I

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Speaker 3: think he would slot in perfectly. He's won a super Bowl.

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Speaker 3: He brings a I think a demeanor and a leadership

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Speaker 3: value that this team needs on the back end. I

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Speaker 3: think he brings experience that they need on the back end.

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Speaker 3: But if everything we're hearing is that teams are are

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Speaker 3: becoming a little bit more higher on kle downs than

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Speaker 3: if I'm the Bengals, I better do my business before

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Speaker 3: the draft at the safety position, just in case.

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Speaker 8: Absolutely. I appreciate it, guys.

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Speaker 2: Thanks, Mike, appreciate it.

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Speaker 8: Bye bye.

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Speaker 2: Let's go from one mic to another.

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Speaker 24: Here, what's up Mike, Hey, guys, good show today. How

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01:59:21,280 --> 01:59:24,080
Speaker 24: about that we already talked about. Probably I was having

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Speaker 24: a procedure, so I couldn't hear the show on. I'm

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01:59:27,000 --> 01:59:29,960
Speaker 24: sorry about that, but I'm sure you talked about the

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Speaker 24: Houston Lass. Yeah, to the enigmatic Kansas before you're right,

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Speaker 24: Tony Peterson's got a struck boy.

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Speaker 3: You could you could convince me that Kansas could go

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Speaker 3: to the final four. You could convince me Kansas doesn't

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Speaker 3: make the first weekend.

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Speaker 24: I don't know that I've ever seen with a team.

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Speaker 24: I'm not not coming off the top of my head.

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01:59:54,960 --> 01:59:57,760
Speaker 24: I think his final March madness is going to be

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Speaker 24: out of sight this year.

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Speaker 2: I do too. I think there's twelve teams that can

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Speaker 2: win it all.

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Speaker 24: Right now, yeah, and that's that's that's what you want

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Speaker 24: as a fan. That's exactly what we want.

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Speaker 2: Yep.

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Speaker 24: And I was listening to their Patrick a little bit

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Speaker 24: this morning. I don't know if you guys did, but

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Speaker 24: take a guess what school in the United college and

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Speaker 24: your university in the United States has the highest application

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Speaker 24: total UH in year to year.

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Speaker 2: I would have, let's say, for this year for a college.

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Speaker 12: No, for a university, man, I I would probably say

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Speaker 12: somewhere out west.

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Speaker 2: I just don't know which one.

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Speaker 24: Yeah, I was thinking on Hot of State or maybe Michigan.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna say Arizona.

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Speaker 24: No, actually, Arizona State is a lot bigger than Arizona

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Speaker 24: as far as that. But what surprising was UCLA. They

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Speaker 24: get one hundred and fifty six thousand applications with a

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Speaker 24: nine percent except it's show it ain't bad.

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Speaker 7: Holy Matt.

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Speaker 24: I mean, that just blew my mind. So Dan Patrick

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Speaker 24: was saying he sent both his kids to USC but

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Speaker 24: that's because he had a connection and had to pay

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Speaker 24: big money on sure. Anyway, I know, it's like that's

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Speaker 24: all I had.

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Speaker 7: Guys, have a.

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Speaker 3: Great afternoon, Let's grab a break, let's come back. A

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Speaker 3: quick brief segment, and then we'll get to Chad Brendle

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Speaker 3: for quick Hits that still happens between now and three

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Speaker 3: o'clock on the Home of the Bengals, ESPN fifteen thirty

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Speaker 3: Cincinnati Sports Station.

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Speaker 2: Are you running for office? And have a message? Welcome back?

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Speaker 3: Since he three sixty ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station,

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Speaker 3: Chad Brendle is in for Mowagart today. He'll join us

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Speaker 3: for quick kits in just a few minutes. We'll talk

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Speaker 3: to Chad a little bit about tonight's game between UC

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Speaker 3: and Texas, text and other college basketball happenings right now.

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Speaker 3: Austin Mark Pope has been fined twenty five thousand dollars,

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Speaker 3: I believe by the SEC after comments he made after

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Speaker 3: after their loss to Auburn. He did you did you

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02:02:12,440 --> 02:02:16,400
Speaker 3: catch his post game at all? No, So, he was

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02:02:16,560 --> 02:02:21,839
Speaker 3: very frustrated with the officiating in the loss to Auburn,

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Speaker 3: but he didn't necessarily say it at the podium. But

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Speaker 3: as he was leaving the podium, he looked at their ad,

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Speaker 3: Kentucky's athletic director, and said, Mitch, if those mfors try

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Speaker 3: to find me, screw them. I did not say a

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Speaker 3: word about how they cheated us. So he didn't address

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Speaker 3: it and say it into the microphone, but he said

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Speaker 3: it loud enough that everyone could understand what he was saying.

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02:02:47,960 --> 02:02:50,320
Speaker 3: SEC said, now, maybe now you're still getting fined for

2225
02:02:50,360 --> 02:02:55,760
Speaker 3: that Miami Ohio in action tonight. Actually it's just Miami, right,

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Speaker 3: We've dropped the Ohio for college basketball. It's Myami at

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Speaker 3: Eastern Michigan tonight. That's a scary, dangerous Eastern Michigan team.

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Speaker 3: Austin from experience, although they're much more dangerous on the

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Speaker 3: road than they are at home. Miami is a ten

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Speaker 3: and a half point favorite on the road at Eastern

2231
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Speaker 3: Michigan tonight. Mentioned Saint Louis. They are now number twenty

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Speaker 3: three in the country. They travel to U the Arena

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Speaker 3: to take on the Dayton Flyers tonight. That aforementioned Kentucky team.

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Speaker 3: They traveled to South Carolina. At this point, it feels

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Speaker 3: like Kentucky is in must win territory, especially this game

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Speaker 3: against South Carolina. It feels like Kentucky I think at

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Speaker 3: this point, if the tournament started, they would be in

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Speaker 3: I know Lonardi has them on like the eight to

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02:03:49,080 --> 02:03:52,960
Speaker 3: nine line right now, but they are a lost or

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Speaker 3: two away from I think dropping onto the wrong side

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Speaker 3: of the bubble. That is a paramount game for Kentucky

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Speaker 3: on the road at South Carolina tonight, and we when

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Speaker 3: we get back with Chad Brendle, we'll discuss a little

2244
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Speaker 3: bit more of what's coming up on the show today

2245
02:04:06,560 --> 02:04:08,920
Speaker 3: for him, and we'll discuss what's going to happen tonight

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Speaker 3: at seven o'clock in Lubbock, Texas between Cincinnati and Texas Tech.

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Speaker 3: That happens when we return on ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati

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Speaker 3: Sports Station.

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Speaker 1: Now it's time for quick hits on Tony Pikes since

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Speaker 1: he three sixty.

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Speaker 2: Was looking for Mo Mo's in Lubbock.

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Speaker 3: He's getting ready for the Bearcats and the Red Raiders tonight,

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Speaker 3: which means for the second day in a row. Chad

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Speaker 3: Brendle is in this seat starting at with three h

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Speaker 3: five this afternoon, right here on ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati

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Speaker 3: Sports Station. But Chad nice enough to join us right now? Hi,

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Speaker 3: chaed Hi, ton are you are? How worked up?

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Speaker 2: Are you? Like? Are the nerves? I'm not there cooking?

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Speaker 2: You're not there yet?

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Speaker 24: No.

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Speaker 25: Six thirty, When when Dan and Terry take the air

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Speaker 25: six thirty how many hens is me going to toss tonight?

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Speaker 25: You know that's his thing, right, Yeah, he likes to

2264
02:05:00,120 --> 02:05:02,920
Speaker 25: slam a pen. It's a good point. How many pens?

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Speaker 25: What's the over op here? Six six pens? Six and

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02:05:06,400 --> 02:05:08,720
Speaker 25: a half? Okay, And I think the under. I take

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Speaker 25: the under. I think Moe behaves himself. I think they're

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Speaker 25: playing pretty well. I mean it's a it's like again,

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Speaker 25: it's no JT. Toppin it's a different Texas Tech team. Yeah,

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Speaker 25: a Texas Tech team that honestly, I mean, Topping's awesome,

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Speaker 25: don't get me wrong, but it presents a lot. I

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Speaker 25: mean they are without Topping, they are a high major

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Speaker 25: team forced to play kind of mid major basketball, high

2274
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Speaker 25: major talent, but the style of play.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they might shoot forty threes I said against.

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Speaker 3: Albeit Texas Tech or Kansas State, but it's now a

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Speaker 3: team when you take Topping out of the lineup. They

2278
02:05:49,160 --> 02:05:51,720
Speaker 3: don't have a ton of height. No, they're not extremely

2279
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Speaker 3: big on the inside. The front court played awesome for

2280
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Speaker 3: UC against Kansas, but you got to look at a

2281
02:05:56,800 --> 02:06:00,400
Speaker 3: guy and Christian Anderson Donovan atwell and they his first

2282
02:06:00,440 --> 02:06:02,880
Speaker 3: game without JT. Topping had twenty sixty other night. So

2283
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Speaker 3: it's it's insane because you take one player off a

2284
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Speaker 3: roster and it completely changes how that team's gonna operate.

2285
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Speaker 3: But it's an opportunity tonight for the Cincinnati better opportunity.

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Speaker 2: I mean that probably people.

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Speaker 3: Didn't think we're gonna present itself even a week ago

2288
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Speaker 3: at this point.

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Speaker 25: And look, the reality is, if they're gonna do this,

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Speaker 25: the best way to do it is to get tc

2291
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Speaker 25: or to get Texas Tech and get BYU because then

2292
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Speaker 25: you're talking for protected seed quad one A type wins

2293
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Speaker 25: And when you get to here's are you ready? Are

2294
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Speaker 25: you ready for the new term this year wins above bubble. Okay,

2295
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Speaker 25: that is they talked about it on the preview show,

2296
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Speaker 25: like where they revealed the top four seeds, like that

2297
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Speaker 25: is the metric this year. From everything they have indicated,

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Speaker 25: wins above bubble is the the buzzword for this year.

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Speaker 25: If you've got Iowa State, Kansas on the road, Texas

2300
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Speaker 25: Tech on the road, and potentially b YU, your wins

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Speaker 25: above bubble is going to match the bubbles rear end.

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Speaker 25: So you know, Oklahoma State's not going to move the needle.

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Speaker 25: TCU is a bubble team, so they're not going to

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Speaker 25: be winds above bubble. They're going to be bubble. So tonight,

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Speaker 25: in a week from tonight, are go time. If this

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Speaker 25: team is going to pull off the unthinkable. They were dead,

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Speaker 25: dead in the water two and a half week West Virginia,

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Speaker 25: West Virginia, dead in the water after the West Virginia game, and.

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Speaker 2: So like a coach that was dead in the water.

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Speaker 25: Yeah, everything, everything felt like we are headed for a reset.

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Speaker 3: I saw on the injury report Seanna bib is questionable

2312
02:07:56,000 --> 02:07:57,920
Speaker 3: at this point with how they've played. Are you even

2313
02:07:58,640 --> 02:07:59,760
Speaker 3: running him back out there?

2314
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Speaker 4: Uh?

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Speaker 25: If he's healthy, I think you could use him a

2316
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Speaker 25: little bit. Yeah, apparently, I you know, Like I mean,

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Speaker 25: but if you look at it, Tony, that's kind of

2318
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Speaker 25: how they were using him before he sprained his ankle.

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Speaker 3: They were using him twelve fourteen. They've just been really

2320
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Speaker 3: good at that. Seven guys getting core minutes.

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Speaker 25: Yeah, I mean, that's that's where you want it, I

2322
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Speaker 25: think at this time of year. But here's the thing

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Speaker 25: that people don't think about the past two years. Wes

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Speaker 25: has done that. Sure, they've been down to seven guys

2325
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Speaker 25: with like a guy or two playing eight minutes or whatever.

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Speaker 25: Behind those main seven and they've lost, so it's not

2327
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Speaker 25: just an instant cure all. But with this team one,

2328
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Speaker 25: I think you're just absolutely at your best. With Jalen

2329
02:08:42,760 --> 02:08:46,400
Speaker 25: Celestine at three, yeah, Like I don't know if people

2330
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Speaker 25: realize how much of a difference he has made since

2331
02:08:50,280 --> 02:08:54,880
Speaker 25: he was inserted into that starting lineup, and offensively they're

2332
02:08:54,920 --> 02:08:58,640
Speaker 25: just a ton better. That's where Sean would play, so

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Speaker 25: he just you.

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Speaker 3: Hate to look back and do the what if game, sure,

2335
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Speaker 3: because you're you're gonna fight similar to where the Bearcats are.

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Speaker 3: You see West Virginia, Yeah, who has had two awful

2337
02:09:08,840 --> 02:09:11,000
Speaker 3: well one awful loss. The home loss to Utah is

2338
02:09:11,000 --> 02:09:13,440
Speaker 3: a bad one, but you're losing both of those to

2339
02:09:13,480 --> 02:09:16,920
Speaker 3: West Virginia. The Arizona State game that still stings. But

2340
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Speaker 3: this team, regardless of how bad it was, has a

2341
02:09:20,280 --> 02:09:23,240
Speaker 3: chance with four remaining, to play themselves into the conversation.

2342
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Speaker 3: That's the thing I mean into the tournament.

2343
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Speaker 25: If you go three and one with wins over Texas

2344
02:09:27,160 --> 02:09:31,080
Speaker 25: Tech and BYU, I have a hard time seeing them

2345
02:09:31,120 --> 02:09:34,720
Speaker 25: not being on the right side of playing UCLA in

2346
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Speaker 25: day oool.

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Speaker 3: Is there a path if they don't win tonight but

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Speaker 3: they win the next three and they say win two

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Speaker 3: in the Big Twelve Tournament. Does that still lend itself

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Speaker 3: an opportunity?

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Speaker 25: At first, I would just eliminate any talk of the

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Speaker 25: Big Twelve Tournament helping. Yeah, we have seen for three

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Speaker 25: years now. Sure the tournament just doesn't move the needle. Now,

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Speaker 25: if they go three and one, there's a pretty good

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Speaker 25: chance they finished seventh or eighth in the in the

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Speaker 25: regular season standings. If you finish seventh or eighth, your

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Speaker 25: second game in the Big Twelve Tournament's going to be

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Speaker 25: Arizona or Houston.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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02:10:12,760 --> 02:10:16,800
Speaker 25: So yeah, if you if you beat a one or

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Speaker 25: a two seed in the change it, maybe that helps

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Speaker 25: you a little bit. But three and one with wins

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02:10:23,560 --> 02:10:26,520
Speaker 25: over Oklahoma State by U and TCU on the road

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Speaker 25: would make it a sweat.

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Speaker 2: I mean, but again, here we are talking about sweating

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Speaker 2: as opposed.

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Speaker 25: To a two, as opposed to waiting for the coach

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02:10:35,760 --> 02:10:38,480
Speaker 25: to be fired and a coaching search to begin.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, all on the line tonight at seven o'clock. Your

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Speaker 3: show starts at three h five. What else is coming

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Speaker 3: up other than some college hoops? I mean, we're gonna

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Speaker 3: be live reacting, right. Duke Tobin is speaking Zach Zach

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Speaker 3: Taylor is speaking Richard Skinner, Well, join me at five

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02:10:55,800 --> 02:11:00,000
Speaker 3: o'clock after talking to Duke Tobin and Zach Taylor.

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Speaker 2: You Skinny at the combine?

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Speaker 25: Yeah, he's wow. Wait wait, I said, what time can

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Speaker 25: I get you? He said after four? And I said,

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Speaker 25: all right, we'll do five and then so Kentucky basketball

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Speaker 25: five thirty.

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Speaker 2: Oh, that's right.

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02:11:12,880 --> 02:11:16,960
Speaker 25: So I'm probably just gonna talk to Skinny until it's

2382
02:11:17,000 --> 02:11:18,480
Speaker 25: time to go to Kentucky basketball.

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Speaker 2: So we'll do that. We'll do We'll do a little

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Speaker 2: bit of reds. You get live, Reds reaction time, Reds reaction.

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Speaker 25: Andrew Abbott starting, Yeah, I think the biggest question for

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Speaker 25: this team for me to be answered in spring training

2387
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Speaker 25: are they do they get out of it healthy and

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02:11:38,480 --> 02:11:42,440
Speaker 25: are they at a point where they can comfortably feel

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Speaker 25: like they have a big three at the top of

2390
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Speaker 25: their rotation, because what we can't have this year, Tony.

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Speaker 25: If you look at the innings count for these three guys,

2392
02:11:52,720 --> 02:11:55,600
Speaker 25: one of them has always missed, has meant over the

2393
02:11:55,640 --> 02:11:59,720
Speaker 25: past three years, has missed a significant sure chunk of

2394
02:11:59,760 --> 02:12:04,160
Speaker 25: this one hundred and fifty innings is about the ceiling

2395
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Speaker 25: for these three guys. That can't happen for this team

2396
02:12:08,920 --> 02:12:13,200
Speaker 25: to have the type of success. I don't care what

2397
02:12:13,280 --> 02:12:17,400
Speaker 25: your depth looks like in Louisville, Brandon Williamson and Luis

2398
02:12:17,480 --> 02:12:23,640
Speaker 25: Agiar and Rhet Louder and whatever that looks like, Green,

2399
02:12:24,200 --> 02:12:28,520
Speaker 25: Lodolo and Abbott. They have to carry the load, and

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Speaker 25: it is time in their career. One hundred and fifty

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02:12:32,920 --> 02:12:37,680
Speaker 25: innings is not a lot of innings. It's thirty starts.

2402
02:12:37,760 --> 02:12:42,720
Speaker 25: What five innings a start. That's not great. That's each

2403
02:12:42,760 --> 02:12:46,960
Speaker 25: guy missing at least six starts and only averaging five innings.

2404
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Speaker 25: And the Reds are gonna need more than that. We

2405
02:12:49,640 --> 02:12:52,080
Speaker 25: can talk till we're blue in the face about the

2406
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Speaker 25: offense and more pop and more power and more runs.

2407
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Speaker 25: But if you don't have those three guys for thirty

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Speaker 25: plus starts at six innings a start, I don't know

2409
02:13:03,240 --> 02:13:05,640
Speaker 25: that they have enough to get where they want to go.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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02:13:07,080 --> 02:13:09,400
Speaker 3: Also, as Austin pointed out earlier today, it feels like

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02:13:10,040 --> 02:13:13,160
Speaker 3: close to what people at least today would expect to

2413
02:13:13,160 --> 02:13:16,200
Speaker 3: see maybe an opening day for the starting lineup. Maybe

2414
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Speaker 3: maybe you move out Dane Myers and now he fits

2415
02:13:18,640 --> 02:13:23,640
Speaker 3: into that, but you get freedom. McLean Ellie Suarez, Steer, Benson, Stevenson,

2416
02:13:23,680 --> 02:13:26,560
Speaker 3: and Marte all in the lineup today, So certainly something

2417
02:13:26,600 --> 02:13:28,400
Speaker 3: to watch there as well as Yeah.

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Speaker 25: I get that that's ab It probably won't be the

2419
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Speaker 25: opening day starter, but like if you told me that's

2420
02:13:33,440 --> 02:13:37,000
Speaker 25: what opening day look like, your all star pitcher and

2421
02:13:37,040 --> 02:13:38,120
Speaker 25: that group of nine.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so really not a not a bad day at

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Speaker 2: the office for you. Yeah, I mean you got the

2424
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Speaker 2: bad end of it, not getting Duke and Zach.

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Speaker 3: Just yeah, by the way, Duke Tobin and Zach Taylor,

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Speaker 3: you can hear that tomorrow as well on sinty three sixty.

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Speaker 2: They're gonna hear it today. Yeah, on the cha people

2428
02:13:54,720 --> 02:13:58,640
Speaker 2: can't listen it at three o'clock at twelve oh five.

2429
02:13:59,240 --> 02:14:01,800
Speaker 25: So think it might look like he had some barbecue

2430
02:14:01,840 --> 02:14:04,240
Speaker 25: last night. I know, looks like he's enjoying Ubbock. So

2431
02:14:04,360 --> 02:14:06,640
Speaker 25: it's I think it's eighty four degrees in Lubbock today,

2432
02:14:06,720 --> 02:14:09,760
Speaker 25: not terrible, It doesn't matter. Just get a win. You

2433
02:14:09,800 --> 02:14:12,800
Speaker 25: ever been a Lubbock Uh? Yes, it hard, it's hard.

2434
02:14:12,960 --> 02:14:15,720
Speaker 25: You try to get four? Yeah, they did.

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02:14:15,920 --> 02:14:19,720
Speaker 3: Sima's Lukasias Austin has said on the air today that

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Speaker 3: he will not come to work tomorrow. If you see

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Speaker 3: wins tonight.

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Speaker 2: Don't tell me that's not That's not the UC thing.

2439
02:14:27,320 --> 02:14:30,520
Speaker 2: That's a Tony Pike thing. Yeah, so it's a UC thing.

2440
02:14:30,760 --> 02:14:33,520
Speaker 3: It is like you're tying that to my UC fan hut,

2441
02:14:33,760 --> 02:14:37,400
Speaker 3: like you would think that my guy here would want

2442
02:14:37,680 --> 02:14:39,000
Speaker 3: me to experience that joint.

2443
02:14:39,040 --> 02:14:43,720
Speaker 25: He's got your back way back, yep. I mean you're well,

2444
02:14:43,720 --> 02:14:46,560
Speaker 25: you're a Cincinnati Bearcat's Hall of Famer.

2445
02:14:46,920 --> 02:14:48,720
Speaker 2: He just doesn't want me. He wants to take away

2446
02:14:48,760 --> 02:14:52,200
Speaker 2: that joy tonight. That's not what I said. He wants

2447
02:14:52,240 --> 02:14:55,760
Speaker 2: to see me suffer. It's not a true jubilation. I'm

2448
02:14:55,800 --> 02:14:57,200
Speaker 2: just saying I got a look out for me a

2449
02:14:57,240 --> 02:14:59,600
Speaker 2: little bit here. Well, here's the deal. Just go ahead

2450
02:14:59,600 --> 02:15:01,440
Speaker 2: and start prapping. If they win tonight, we're going to

2451
02:15:01,480 --> 02:15:03,960
Speaker 2: talk about destinations for March Madness tomorrow.

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02:15:04,400 --> 02:15:08,080
Speaker 25: This is Tony Pike Sincy three sixty with Tony pow

2453
02:15:08,160 --> 02:15:12,080
Speaker 25: Thank you, Chad, thank you. Just need us some support.

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02:15:12,880 --> 02:15:15,760
Speaker 25: We're done. I hope everyone listening has a great Tuesday

2455
02:15:15,920 --> 02:15:17,160
Speaker 25: to talk to me for the rest of the day.

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Speaker 3: I hope everyone listening enjoys the games tonight, and Chad

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02:15:22,600 --> 02:15:26,560
Speaker 3: Brendle is Next, The Chad Brendle Show on ESPN fifteen

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