1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,800 Speaker 1: Shelby, Harris your Cleveland Browns for a Bronco best hands 2 00:00:03,800 --> 00:00:04,160 Speaker 1: in the league. 3 00:00:04,200 --> 00:00:05,640 Speaker 2: Shelby, my friend. Good to catch up with you. How 4 00:00:05,680 --> 00:00:05,920 Speaker 2: are you. 5 00:00:06,640 --> 00:00:08,520 Speaker 3: I'm good. How do you guys doing today? 6 00:00:08,640 --> 00:00:11,160 Speaker 2: We're doing good. How about the Brewers? 7 00:00:11,200 --> 00:00:15,920 Speaker 3: Man, I'm talking. I've had a smile of my face 8 00:00:17,040 --> 00:00:22,239 Speaker 3: because you know, it's just the small market team is 9 00:00:22,280 --> 00:00:24,520 Speaker 3: doing it, man, and we're living after the regular season 10 00:00:24,640 --> 00:00:28,480 Speaker 3: part part of it of actually, you know, going out 11 00:00:28,480 --> 00:00:30,360 Speaker 3: there and winning these games in the playoffs. I've had 12 00:00:30,440 --> 00:00:33,760 Speaker 3: such a successful regular season, so I'm incited. It's a 13 00:00:33,800 --> 00:00:36,199 Speaker 3: it's a great it's a great month to be a 14 00:00:36,280 --> 00:00:38,159 Speaker 3: Brewer fan. I feel something specially happening. 15 00:00:38,680 --> 00:00:41,159 Speaker 2: I mean, how could you not. They're they're winning these 16 00:00:41,159 --> 00:00:42,120 Speaker 2: games convincingly. 17 00:00:42,400 --> 00:00:45,320 Speaker 1: You have a chance to sweep it tomorrow night against 18 00:00:45,320 --> 00:00:45,919 Speaker 1: the Cubs. 19 00:00:46,159 --> 00:00:47,560 Speaker 2: Uh, it's great. 20 00:00:47,600 --> 00:00:50,520 Speaker 1: They're they're they have that sort of team of destiny feel. 21 00:00:50,560 --> 00:00:52,520 Speaker 1: I mean, we'll see what they do in the next round. 22 00:00:52,520 --> 00:00:56,680 Speaker 1: But I don't know, man, Uh, this is you. You know, 23 00:00:57,000 --> 00:00:59,520 Speaker 1: we've had you kind of co hostly with us there 24 00:00:59,520 --> 00:01:02,279 Speaker 1: for a little wile, and you come in and you know. 25 00:01:02,240 --> 00:01:04,600 Speaker 2: You're talking to smack. It was tough for us Rockies fans. 26 00:01:04,840 --> 00:01:05,399 Speaker 2: You have to hear it. 27 00:01:05,520 --> 00:01:08,399 Speaker 1: You're talking about small market teams that find success. But 28 00:01:08,800 --> 00:01:12,120 Speaker 1: I guess we can sort of live vicariously through you, 29 00:01:12,360 --> 00:01:14,040 Speaker 1: at least for a couple of moments, can't we. 30 00:01:14,920 --> 00:01:17,959 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know it's the Rockies will be there eventually. 31 00:01:18,600 --> 00:01:20,200 Speaker 3: You know they're going to get it together. They're going 32 00:01:20,240 --> 00:01:22,280 Speaker 3: to figure it out, just like how the Brewers they 33 00:01:22,319 --> 00:01:24,600 Speaker 3: had to find their formula, like what works for them, 34 00:01:25,120 --> 00:01:27,280 Speaker 3: and the Rockies that want to figure that out too. 35 00:01:27,800 --> 00:01:29,800 Speaker 3: But I will say this though, the best part about 36 00:01:29,880 --> 00:01:33,160 Speaker 3: this whole you know, there's this first series, is that 37 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:36,360 Speaker 3: it's beating the Cubs, and we all have think we 38 00:01:36,480 --> 00:01:38,200 Speaker 3: all can agree that we hate the Cubs. 39 00:01:38,400 --> 00:01:41,959 Speaker 2: We all hate the Cubs. That we were universal here. 40 00:01:42,319 --> 00:01:45,000 Speaker 1: Of course, I probably on a daily basis talk to 41 00:01:45,040 --> 00:01:47,760 Speaker 1: a lot of Cubs fans, so you know, don't turn 42 00:01:47,760 --> 00:01:49,480 Speaker 1: off the radio. I'm not going to hammer the Cubs, 43 00:01:49,480 --> 00:01:52,120 Speaker 1: but I'm saying and typically speaking, yes, the Cubs fans 44 00:01:52,120 --> 00:01:54,760 Speaker 1: are not I don't know, they're not as bad as 45 00:01:54,760 --> 00:01:57,520 Speaker 1: Boston fans, like like Boston fans still are number one 46 00:01:57,560 --> 00:02:00,120 Speaker 1: for me as far as like fan bases that I 47 00:02:00,960 --> 00:02:03,080 Speaker 1: guess I get a certain amount of pleasure rooting against 48 00:02:03,640 --> 00:02:05,000 Speaker 1: but they're pretty up there. 49 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:06,760 Speaker 2: What about you Yankees? 50 00:02:08,680 --> 00:02:12,200 Speaker 3: Yankees and cuts? To be honest, because being a guy 51 00:02:12,240 --> 00:02:15,079 Speaker 3: obviously being from Milwaukee and then finishing at Illinois State, 52 00:02:15,200 --> 00:02:18,079 Speaker 3: I was surrounded by a bunch of Cubs people, and 53 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:21,600 Speaker 3: so when the Cubs broke the curves, you know, it 54 00:02:22,400 --> 00:02:25,840 Speaker 3: was all all this trash talk and then now and 55 00:02:25,880 --> 00:02:28,079 Speaker 3: then the background behind it is then they staw our 56 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:34,520 Speaker 3: managers and so that that right there already made it 57 00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:36,000 Speaker 3: that we like, we hate the Cubs. So this just 58 00:02:36,040 --> 00:02:36,800 Speaker 3: makes it even better. 59 00:02:37,040 --> 00:02:38,080 Speaker 2: It makes it even better. 60 00:02:38,480 --> 00:02:42,480 Speaker 1: So you guys played over in London, and I got 61 00:02:42,560 --> 00:02:45,120 Speaker 1: about three texts asking me about the penalty that was 62 00:02:45,160 --> 00:02:46,679 Speaker 1: called against You. Looked like you were just kind of 63 00:02:46,680 --> 00:02:47,560 Speaker 1: get guys off your leg? 64 00:02:47,600 --> 00:02:49,120 Speaker 2: Are you okay? By the way, are you are you? 65 00:02:49,240 --> 00:02:49,880 Speaker 2: Are you all right? 66 00:02:51,200 --> 00:02:53,280 Speaker 4: I am okay, but I'll just trying to get him 67 00:02:53,280 --> 00:02:55,560 Speaker 4: off my legs. He was It felt like he was 68 00:02:55,560 --> 00:02:58,880 Speaker 4: twisting my leg under the pile. And you know, I 69 00:02:58,960 --> 00:03:02,799 Speaker 4: made that very clear, and you know. 70 00:03:02,919 --> 00:03:06,679 Speaker 3: I didn't get much of an explanation behind it. But yeah, 71 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:10,119 Speaker 3: I when I was walking off, I thought I heard 72 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:13,399 Speaker 3: my number getting called, and you know what I mean, 73 00:03:13,440 --> 00:03:15,240 Speaker 3: But like you know, at the end of the day, 74 00:03:15,280 --> 00:03:17,320 Speaker 3: you got to protect yourself and you feel like somebody's 75 00:03:17,320 --> 00:03:21,480 Speaker 3: being dirty under day. You know, I've heard. 76 00:03:21,280 --> 00:03:25,400 Speaker 1: Some pretty gruesome stories about what happens at the bottom 77 00:03:25,440 --> 00:03:27,720 Speaker 1: of a pile. I don't know how much you want 78 00:03:27,720 --> 00:03:30,920 Speaker 1: to share, but twisting of the leg is actually a 79 00:03:30,919 --> 00:03:32,640 Speaker 1: pretty tame from some of the things I've heard. 80 00:03:33,280 --> 00:03:34,880 Speaker 3: Well. And also you I was thinking it was a 81 00:03:34,920 --> 00:03:37,160 Speaker 3: fumble too, so the ball was under there too. So 82 00:03:37,280 --> 00:03:41,080 Speaker 3: people are you know, I've had already like got hurt 83 00:03:41,120 --> 00:03:44,560 Speaker 3: on the play before that even happened, Like I I 84 00:03:45,040 --> 00:03:47,040 Speaker 3: got I banged up on the play, and then for 85 00:03:47,120 --> 00:03:50,000 Speaker 3: then for that to happen after that, you know, So 86 00:03:50,120 --> 00:03:53,160 Speaker 3: that that was just you know, that's the ugliest sign 87 00:03:53,240 --> 00:03:54,240 Speaker 3: of football. 88 00:03:54,240 --> 00:03:57,200 Speaker 2: Now, it certainly is. You had your debut of Dylan Gabriel. 89 00:03:57,280 --> 00:04:01,400 Speaker 1: Today we found out that Joe Flacco, your former starting quarterback, 90 00:04:01,440 --> 00:04:03,640 Speaker 1: got trades to the Cincinnati Bengals. I don't know, man, 91 00:04:03,840 --> 00:04:07,440 Speaker 1: in interdividual division trades. I mean, you're gonna see Cincinnati 92 00:04:07,880 --> 00:04:08,960 Speaker 1: again later this year. 93 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:10,040 Speaker 2: We'll see it very often. 94 00:04:10,080 --> 00:04:13,840 Speaker 3: Man. Yeah, that's always a weird one. But you know, 95 00:04:13,880 --> 00:04:17,240 Speaker 3: obviously they're feeling desperate, and you know, they invest in 96 00:04:17,279 --> 00:04:19,479 Speaker 3: a lot into that offense and they have this type 97 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:22,760 Speaker 3: of return right now, you got to go make a move. 98 00:04:22,839 --> 00:04:27,000 Speaker 3: But it makes sense though, Joseph, and obviously the team 99 00:04:27,040 --> 00:04:30,200 Speaker 3: moves on to Dylan Gabriel, So it's more of like 100 00:04:30,279 --> 00:04:33,680 Speaker 3: he's forty years old, he wants to play, and so 101 00:04:33,960 --> 00:04:36,360 Speaker 3: is a great situation, you know for him, he gets 102 00:04:36,360 --> 00:04:38,440 Speaker 3: to going there. I'm excited to see him play with 103 00:04:38,560 --> 00:04:40,680 Speaker 3: the playmakers that he has because we all know Joe 104 00:04:41,120 --> 00:04:42,839 Speaker 3: knows Joe can still go to the ball with the best 105 00:04:42,880 --> 00:04:45,280 Speaker 3: of him, So he's going to have the playmakers are 106 00:04:45,560 --> 00:04:47,640 Speaker 3: so just to throw it up and have some fun. 107 00:04:48,120 --> 00:04:49,080 Speaker 2: Well, oh, certainly. 108 00:04:49,120 --> 00:04:51,160 Speaker 1: I mean the talent on that team is I mean, 109 00:04:51,160 --> 00:04:53,200 Speaker 1: it's it's pretty obvious to everybody. And there's a reason 110 00:04:53,240 --> 00:04:57,640 Speaker 1: why the Bengals decided to keep and extend Jamar Chase 111 00:04:57,680 --> 00:05:00,640 Speaker 1: and t Higgins and I mean, Chase Brown's really talented 112 00:05:00,680 --> 00:05:02,640 Speaker 1: running back. They got Mike is SICKI there, They've They've 113 00:05:02,640 --> 00:05:04,240 Speaker 1: got a lot of talent on the offensive side of 114 00:05:04,240 --> 00:05:04,520 Speaker 1: the ball. 115 00:05:04,760 --> 00:05:06,000 Speaker 2: It's really never a questioned about that. 116 00:05:06,040 --> 00:05:08,720 Speaker 1: It's really more about the investments in the defensive side 117 00:05:08,720 --> 00:05:11,360 Speaker 1: of the ball, but again, none of it works. Jake 118 00:05:11,440 --> 00:05:14,600 Speaker 1: Browning's throwing interceptions and really none of it works if 119 00:05:14,600 --> 00:05:16,800 Speaker 1: you continue to put your team in a bad position. 120 00:05:16,880 --> 00:05:18,160 Speaker 2: So we'll see how that works out. 121 00:05:18,200 --> 00:05:20,040 Speaker 1: But the investment on the other side that this is 122 00:05:20,040 --> 00:05:22,000 Speaker 1: where I think is kind of interesting too for the 123 00:05:22,040 --> 00:05:26,480 Speaker 1: Browns because this is we're all in on these young quarterbacks. 124 00:05:26,720 --> 00:05:28,920 Speaker 1: I again, I thought there were some nice things from 125 00:05:28,960 --> 00:05:34,120 Speaker 1: Dylan Gabriel Schador. Sanders is now just one playaway or 126 00:05:34,279 --> 00:05:36,200 Speaker 1: at some point a moment into the end of the 127 00:05:36,240 --> 00:05:37,640 Speaker 1: season he gets a chance to play. 128 00:05:37,640 --> 00:05:39,800 Speaker 2: What do you think about the investment in your young quarterbacks? 129 00:05:40,880 --> 00:05:44,600 Speaker 3: Man, I think I think the world of our young quarterbacks. 130 00:05:44,600 --> 00:05:47,920 Speaker 3: I think they both you know, have shown throughout practice 131 00:05:48,360 --> 00:05:50,840 Speaker 3: and unlimited reps that they have that you know that 132 00:05:50,839 --> 00:05:52,800 Speaker 3: they're not prepared, they not to be ready for the game. 133 00:05:52,880 --> 00:05:55,200 Speaker 3: I just think that obviously, the one thing is you 134 00:05:55,279 --> 00:05:57,880 Speaker 3: have to get reps. And that's a tough part about 135 00:05:57,880 --> 00:06:00,760 Speaker 3: it because now you're talking about too young quarterbacks on 136 00:06:00,839 --> 00:06:04,920 Speaker 3: the same team, and so you know you are you 137 00:06:05,040 --> 00:06:09,240 Speaker 3: really you're gonna have to split reps. It's like it's 138 00:06:09,240 --> 00:06:11,320 Speaker 3: either like you slip rep for or is this one 139 00:06:11,320 --> 00:06:13,680 Speaker 3: guy doesn't get the reps and and you got to 140 00:06:13,720 --> 00:06:16,240 Speaker 3: try to evaluate him a different type of way. And 141 00:06:16,279 --> 00:06:19,279 Speaker 3: it's it's I wouldn't hate to be the evaluator in 142 00:06:19,320 --> 00:06:23,120 Speaker 3: this situation, you know. And I think that is the 143 00:06:23,240 --> 00:06:26,440 Speaker 3: toughest part about it though, because no matter what you know, 144 00:06:26,640 --> 00:06:30,240 Speaker 3: and it's it's obvious though, no matter what, like the 145 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:33,720 Speaker 3: fans and everybody, WI should do, just what comes with 146 00:06:33,839 --> 00:06:37,479 Speaker 3: him and how polarizing him a name that comes with it. 147 00:06:37,560 --> 00:06:39,560 Speaker 3: You know, everyone's always want to be asking for him 148 00:06:39,920 --> 00:06:42,919 Speaker 3: to play if anything ever goes wrong. And so you know, 149 00:06:42,960 --> 00:06:45,360 Speaker 3: you have to be a strong minded, confident guy in 150 00:06:45,400 --> 00:06:49,080 Speaker 3: the first place to be able to play, knowing that 151 00:06:49,120 --> 00:06:53,320 Speaker 3: you're going to have that looming you know talk all 152 00:06:53,360 --> 00:06:55,320 Speaker 3: the time from the sports munich because that's all they're 153 00:06:55,320 --> 00:06:57,160 Speaker 3: going to talk about, you know what I mean, that's 154 00:06:57,200 --> 00:06:59,839 Speaker 3: all it's going to be the talk. So I think, 155 00:07:00,040 --> 00:07:02,320 Speaker 3: you know, I think Dylan is mentally show enough to 156 00:07:02,320 --> 00:07:04,560 Speaker 3: get through that. And I haven't bother him. And you know, 157 00:07:04,640 --> 00:07:08,000 Speaker 3: we saw we saw some good things from him on 158 00:07:08,120 --> 00:07:10,600 Speaker 3: this game and he's shrowing. He can be a good 159 00:07:10,640 --> 00:07:12,520 Speaker 3: quarterback in this league and he just you know needs 160 00:07:12,520 --> 00:07:13,400 Speaker 3: to develope. 161 00:07:13,400 --> 00:07:15,360 Speaker 1: It was a close game. You guys, you just fought 162 00:07:15,360 --> 00:07:16,880 Speaker 1: all the way to the very end on that one. 163 00:07:16,920 --> 00:07:18,720 Speaker 1: And yeah, I did like some of the things I 164 00:07:18,720 --> 00:07:20,800 Speaker 1: saw from Dylan Gabriel in that one, and I'm looking 165 00:07:20,840 --> 00:07:23,280 Speaker 1: forward to seeing what he gets gets the Steelers. Uh 166 00:07:23,360 --> 00:07:26,520 Speaker 1: this week, speaking of the Steelers, I couldn't help but 167 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:29,640 Speaker 1: remember some of our conversations this offseason about Aaron Rodgers, 168 00:07:30,160 --> 00:07:32,440 Speaker 1: who is now going to be starting for the Steelers, 169 00:07:32,440 --> 00:07:34,720 Speaker 1: who right now is in the top of the division. 170 00:07:34,800 --> 00:07:36,520 Speaker 1: So what do you think about this matchup coming up 171 00:07:36,520 --> 00:07:37,280 Speaker 1: on Sunday? 172 00:07:38,360 --> 00:07:41,920 Speaker 3: You know, you know, we always take the Steelers. That's 173 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:44,440 Speaker 3: there's no secret about that. There's no love loss between 174 00:07:44,480 --> 00:07:48,400 Speaker 3: the Browns and Steelers at all. And and I think 175 00:07:48,560 --> 00:07:51,720 Speaker 3: I think the coolest part is I just think I've 176 00:07:51,720 --> 00:07:53,840 Speaker 3: always been a big believer that Aaron Rodgers is one 177 00:07:53,840 --> 00:07:58,000 Speaker 3: of the best pure passers in NFL history, just the 178 00:07:58,080 --> 00:08:02,600 Speaker 3: accuracy that he has and just what he has on 179 00:08:02,640 --> 00:08:05,320 Speaker 3: his resume of the quarterback that he's been. I've always 180 00:08:05,320 --> 00:08:07,600 Speaker 3: been a big believer of he has probably the best 181 00:08:07,640 --> 00:08:10,640 Speaker 3: pure arm talent, you know, just but what he does 182 00:08:10,720 --> 00:08:12,080 Speaker 3: and how he can get the ball where it needs 183 00:08:12,120 --> 00:08:15,200 Speaker 3: to be. And so you know, obviously people are riding 184 00:08:15,240 --> 00:08:18,480 Speaker 3: him off, and he's you know, he's really helped this 185 00:08:18,520 --> 00:08:21,640 Speaker 3: Pittsburgh Steeler team actually, because the number one team in 186 00:08:21,640 --> 00:08:24,000 Speaker 3: the ANC North right now. So it's gonna be a 187 00:08:24,320 --> 00:08:26,240 Speaker 3: it's gonna be a good battle. I'm excited to go 188 00:08:26,280 --> 00:08:29,320 Speaker 3: play this team and and really go out there and 189 00:08:29,360 --> 00:08:31,360 Speaker 3: targe just redeem ourselves. And obviously the season is not 190 00:08:31,400 --> 00:08:33,800 Speaker 3: going the way we wanted to go, but you know, 191 00:08:33,880 --> 00:08:36,640 Speaker 3: we're pros. We we just you gotta forget all about 192 00:08:36,679 --> 00:08:38,040 Speaker 3: it if you take it week to week and you 193 00:08:38,080 --> 00:08:40,440 Speaker 3: forget about all the all the bath stuff that happened 194 00:08:40,440 --> 00:08:42,679 Speaker 3: the week before. So I think it's gonna be a 195 00:08:42,720 --> 00:08:45,960 Speaker 3: great matchup. You know, always the storyline of Miles Garrett 196 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:48,719 Speaker 3: for CJ. Watt and and all that stuff and the 197 00:08:48,960 --> 00:08:51,800 Speaker 3: no love loss, and I just think I love it. 198 00:08:51,840 --> 00:08:54,120 Speaker 3: I love playing the Steers and I can't wait to 199 00:08:54,160 --> 00:08:55,640 Speaker 3: go down there and stop them boys out. 200 00:08:58,240 --> 00:09:00,640 Speaker 2: That's my guy right there. Yeah, there's listen, there's a 201 00:09:00,679 --> 00:09:03,240 Speaker 2: lot of history there. I mean division rivalries, division games. 202 00:09:03,240 --> 00:09:04,640 Speaker 2: There's always a lot of history. 203 00:09:04,720 --> 00:09:07,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, you mentioned something there, and we've obviously been talking 204 00:09:07,400 --> 00:09:10,720 Speaker 1: a lot about the the Broncos road win over the Eagles. 205 00:09:10,920 --> 00:09:14,480 Speaker 1: There are some guys that are built, and even some teams, 206 00:09:14,720 --> 00:09:17,920 Speaker 1: but specifically some guys that really like going on the 207 00:09:18,040 --> 00:09:21,559 Speaker 1: road and winning those kinds of road games. It's fun 208 00:09:21,600 --> 00:09:23,480 Speaker 1: to play in front of the home crowd and a 209 00:09:23,520 --> 00:09:26,880 Speaker 1: certain amount of pride you take and representing the home team. 210 00:09:27,120 --> 00:09:29,800 Speaker 1: But man, there is something really really fun as a competitor. 211 00:09:29,800 --> 00:09:32,400 Speaker 1: I imagine going on the road and beating a team 212 00:09:32,440 --> 00:09:33,040 Speaker 1: in their house. 213 00:09:34,240 --> 00:09:37,040 Speaker 3: Say something like walking your tat, walking your trap, take 214 00:09:37,080 --> 00:09:39,800 Speaker 3: over your traft. That's exactly what we like to do, 215 00:09:39,840 --> 00:09:41,960 Speaker 3: you know what I mean. As a defensive guy, I 216 00:09:42,200 --> 00:09:45,040 Speaker 3: love taking the air out of the stadium, you know, 217 00:09:45,240 --> 00:09:47,680 Speaker 3: I love and when you have nothing to cheer for, 218 00:09:47,760 --> 00:09:51,920 Speaker 3: it's what we live, well, we live for, you know, 219 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:54,680 Speaker 3: all the silence, the booze that come out after after 220 00:09:54,720 --> 00:09:57,600 Speaker 3: you're getting shut down and the offense isn't performing the 221 00:09:57,600 --> 00:10:00,920 Speaker 3: way it's supposed to. That's what we like. Where when 222 00:10:00,960 --> 00:10:04,720 Speaker 3: the crowds just can't get into it, everybody's frustrated. You know, 223 00:10:04,840 --> 00:10:07,280 Speaker 3: That's that's what real competitors want to do. You want 224 00:10:07,320 --> 00:10:10,319 Speaker 3: to go into somebody else's house and beat the crap 225 00:10:10,400 --> 00:10:14,240 Speaker 3: out like that's that's real and that's how you go 226 00:10:14,280 --> 00:10:16,560 Speaker 3: out there and really make a statement. And you know, 227 00:10:16,640 --> 00:10:19,080 Speaker 3: it's easier always to win at home you have the 228 00:10:19,160 --> 00:10:21,280 Speaker 3: crowd behind you. But when you go out on the 229 00:10:21,360 --> 00:10:23,640 Speaker 3: road and you do that, you know, and that's also 230 00:10:23,640 --> 00:10:26,440 Speaker 3: what makes you know the Broncos when you know, so 231 00:10:26,520 --> 00:10:28,760 Speaker 3: much more impressive. Obviously, they went up to the defending 232 00:10:29,160 --> 00:10:33,640 Speaker 3: champions house down in the fourth quarter, came back and 233 00:10:33,920 --> 00:10:37,880 Speaker 3: and had this statement win, Like that's what you live for, 234 00:10:38,160 --> 00:10:41,600 Speaker 3: because I'm sure that everyone was stunned leaving that place, 235 00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:44,520 Speaker 3: stunned because in the fourth in the beginning the fourth Quartery, 236 00:10:44,520 --> 00:10:46,800 Speaker 3: you couldn't tell me that everyone believed that the Eagles 237 00:10:46,840 --> 00:10:48,640 Speaker 3: were going to win that game. And so I know 238 00:10:48,960 --> 00:10:51,199 Speaker 3: for a fact that you know that's what played. That's 239 00:10:51,240 --> 00:10:52,520 Speaker 3: what a lot of players live. 240 00:10:52,400 --> 00:10:56,400 Speaker 1: For, one hundred percent, and the way it happened was 241 00:10:56,440 --> 00:10:57,439 Speaker 1: truly remarkable. 242 00:10:58,000 --> 00:10:58,280 Speaker 3: Listen. 243 00:10:58,320 --> 00:11:01,520 Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not asked looking you for the commentary 244 00:11:01,559 --> 00:11:04,600 Speaker 1: on the game plan for really either side. I just 245 00:11:04,640 --> 00:11:06,360 Speaker 1: think that the way that the Broncos are able to 246 00:11:06,400 --> 00:11:09,520 Speaker 1: win that game, you also kind of needed the Eagles 247 00:11:09,559 --> 00:11:12,400 Speaker 1: to do some things that are just really atypical for them. 248 00:11:12,640 --> 00:11:15,040 Speaker 1: Sa Quon Barkley getting one carry in the second half 249 00:11:15,080 --> 00:11:18,840 Speaker 1: of that game, Shelby. I still it blows my mind, Like, 250 00:11:19,080 --> 00:11:20,720 Speaker 1: this is a guy the rushed for over two thousand 251 00:11:20,760 --> 00:11:23,440 Speaker 1: yards last year. He's the offensive player of the Year 252 00:11:23,800 --> 00:11:26,800 Speaker 1: for a reason. He got six total carries in the game, 253 00:11:27,280 --> 00:11:30,640 Speaker 1: one in the second half. Now I understand, and maybe 254 00:11:30,640 --> 00:11:32,839 Speaker 1: you could speak to this. When you have a lot 255 00:11:32,840 --> 00:11:36,400 Speaker 1: of grousing from star players like aj Brown and DeVante Smith, 256 00:11:36,440 --> 00:11:39,559 Speaker 1: you feel a certain obligation to try to feed those mouths, 257 00:11:39,600 --> 00:11:42,439 Speaker 1: to make them feel as though they are seen and loved, 258 00:11:42,920 --> 00:11:47,319 Speaker 1: But then at the detriment of other players and potentially 259 00:11:47,360 --> 00:11:49,040 Speaker 1: winning a game that I don't understand. 260 00:11:50,080 --> 00:11:54,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm always been a believer that, you know, the Eagles, 261 00:11:54,360 --> 00:11:56,439 Speaker 3: the way they win the ball, I mean the way 262 00:11:56,440 --> 00:11:58,840 Speaker 3: they win the game is they run the ball thirty 263 00:11:58,880 --> 00:12:01,480 Speaker 3: times a game and they throw the ball twenty to 264 00:12:01,600 --> 00:12:03,640 Speaker 3: twenty five times a game. If you would have told 265 00:12:03,679 --> 00:12:06,640 Speaker 3: me that Jayla hurt, If I see a stat line 266 00:12:06,960 --> 00:12:09,240 Speaker 3: that says Jana Hers throw the ball thirty eight times 267 00:12:09,240 --> 00:12:11,920 Speaker 3: a game, I would assume they lost the game because 268 00:12:11,920 --> 00:12:14,480 Speaker 3: that's not that's not the way the Eagles play. And 269 00:12:14,559 --> 00:12:17,240 Speaker 3: so for them to get moved and kind of forced 270 00:12:17,280 --> 00:12:20,880 Speaker 3: to play outside of you know how they play. And 271 00:12:21,200 --> 00:12:23,800 Speaker 3: you're right though, you know, eventually you do have all 272 00:12:23,840 --> 00:12:25,520 Speaker 3: these you know, you have all these voices on the 273 00:12:25,520 --> 00:12:29,719 Speaker 3: outside that you know, I'll throw the ball you have to. 274 00:12:29,920 --> 00:12:32,240 Speaker 3: That's what happens when you pay receivers. Yeah, you know 275 00:12:32,280 --> 00:12:35,000 Speaker 3: what I mean. And I've always said this though, and 276 00:12:35,120 --> 00:12:36,640 Speaker 3: a lot a lot of positions though, you know, but 277 00:12:36,720 --> 00:12:41,480 Speaker 3: receivers are inherently selfish. They want the ball, you know then, 278 00:12:41,559 --> 00:12:43,880 Speaker 3: And why wouldn't it, Just like d Lineman, we want 279 00:12:43,920 --> 00:12:45,480 Speaker 3: we want to be the one to make the play. 280 00:12:45,520 --> 00:12:46,760 Speaker 3: We want to be the one to get the sack, 281 00:12:47,240 --> 00:12:49,600 Speaker 3: you know what I mean. So like as a receivers, 282 00:12:49,600 --> 00:12:51,760 Speaker 3: like I want the ball because I want to help 283 00:12:51,800 --> 00:12:53,160 Speaker 3: the team win. I want to be able to do 284 00:12:53,200 --> 00:12:55,520 Speaker 3: something to help the team win. And I can't do 285 00:12:55,679 --> 00:12:58,120 Speaker 3: that unless I get the ball. And they play a 286 00:12:58,120 --> 00:13:03,200 Speaker 3: position that is truly dependent on somebody else including them, 287 00:13:03,800 --> 00:13:07,640 Speaker 3: And so I've got to understand that. But the Eagles 288 00:13:07,760 --> 00:13:12,480 Speaker 3: only win win, that's that they win when they run 289 00:13:12,520 --> 00:13:15,360 Speaker 3: the ball. They they are that down in team. And 290 00:13:15,360 --> 00:13:16,959 Speaker 3: if you would have told me that Saflon would have 291 00:13:17,000 --> 00:13:19,640 Speaker 3: six carries that game, I would have I would have 292 00:13:19,720 --> 00:13:22,760 Speaker 3: bet the house on it that that you would be 293 00:13:22,840 --> 00:13:26,680 Speaker 3: you would be lying. So I just the game plans, 294 00:13:26,800 --> 00:13:29,280 Speaker 3: you know, obviously, you know, I don't know what they 295 00:13:29,520 --> 00:13:31,440 Speaker 3: if they saw weakness somewhere or something like that, but 296 00:13:32,240 --> 00:13:34,160 Speaker 3: you know, they got out of what they do. 297 00:13:35,080 --> 00:13:35,559 Speaker 2: They did. 298 00:13:35,840 --> 00:13:38,719 Speaker 1: And you know, I was watching some of the broadcast, 299 00:13:38,800 --> 00:13:42,160 Speaker 1: the TV copy broadcast after the fact, and they were talking. 300 00:13:42,440 --> 00:13:45,199 Speaker 1: I think Tony Roman was talking specifically, because I think 301 00:13:45,280 --> 00:13:47,520 Speaker 1: Jim Nance made a comment about it, like, man, they're 302 00:13:47,520 --> 00:13:49,600 Speaker 1: really throwing the ball a lot in this game, and 303 00:13:49,679 --> 00:13:50,520 Speaker 1: he said, well. 304 00:13:50,640 --> 00:13:53,360 Speaker 2: The Broncos are putting a lot of players in the box. 305 00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:56,280 Speaker 1: And when you do things like that, you feel sort 306 00:13:56,320 --> 00:13:58,280 Speaker 1: of an obligation, like, all right, well, look, if you're 307 00:13:58,280 --> 00:14:00,240 Speaker 1: gonna stack the box against us, we're gonna row it 308 00:14:00,240 --> 00:14:04,160 Speaker 1: against you. And I get that, But you have two 309 00:14:04,280 --> 00:14:08,280 Speaker 1: score lead at home in the fourth quarter. Now that's 310 00:14:08,320 --> 00:14:12,080 Speaker 1: a two score, two touchdown lead at home in the 311 00:14:12,080 --> 00:14:14,920 Speaker 1: fourth quarter, and you are historically one of the better 312 00:14:15,040 --> 00:14:16,800 Speaker 1: running teams in the league. 313 00:14:16,800 --> 00:14:18,040 Speaker 2: That's the part that I miss. 314 00:14:18,440 --> 00:14:21,160 Speaker 1: Even when a team stacks the box and Shelby, you 315 00:14:21,200 --> 00:14:22,720 Speaker 1: know this, on the defensive side of the ball, even 316 00:14:22,720 --> 00:14:25,600 Speaker 1: if a team is stacking the box against you ye'ars, Like, 317 00:14:25,640 --> 00:14:29,120 Speaker 1: hey man, we're daring you to run against the teams 318 00:14:29,160 --> 00:14:31,080 Speaker 1: that are usually still going to find a way to 319 00:14:31,160 --> 00:14:36,960 Speaker 1: run the ball. 320 00:14:37,400 --> 00:14:40,600 Speaker 3: The fine gaps even if you're overloading the box, and 321 00:14:40,680 --> 00:14:43,360 Speaker 3: then you can exploit them on the play action, you 322 00:14:43,400 --> 00:14:44,720 Speaker 3: know what I mean. But you're not just dropped back 323 00:14:44,760 --> 00:14:48,200 Speaker 3: throwing the ball forty times a game. And that's just 324 00:14:48,280 --> 00:14:50,840 Speaker 3: not how the Eagles win. We saw that all last year, 325 00:14:50,840 --> 00:14:52,960 Speaker 3: and we saw that in the four games they won 326 00:14:53,080 --> 00:14:55,720 Speaker 3: this year. It was a heavy dose of sakun and 327 00:14:55,760 --> 00:14:58,960 Speaker 3: I'm say, like, teams I don't like, you know, shout 328 00:14:58,960 --> 00:15:02,240 Speaker 3: out to Vans Joe and this game plan though, because 329 00:15:03,040 --> 00:15:07,200 Speaker 3: obviously it forced the Eagles to change it. And so 330 00:15:07,320 --> 00:15:09,800 Speaker 3: now the question is going to be are more teams 331 00:15:09,840 --> 00:15:12,800 Speaker 3: going to follow suit and all the Eagles going to 332 00:15:12,840 --> 00:15:15,760 Speaker 3: figure out something on it. Just want to once again 333 00:15:16,080 --> 00:15:20,040 Speaker 3: to get past happy and forget about the gym of 334 00:15:20,080 --> 00:15:21,640 Speaker 3: a bat they have in Ta Kwon Barkley. 335 00:15:21,840 --> 00:15:23,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, it wouldn't make any sense to me. 336 00:15:23,400 --> 00:15:25,640 Speaker 1: They got the Giants this week, so I imagine the 337 00:15:25,680 --> 00:15:26,440 Speaker 1: Giants are going to. 338 00:15:26,440 --> 00:15:30,560 Speaker 2: Fill the full fury of the Eagles. 339 00:15:30,600 --> 00:15:31,880 Speaker 1: But you know, we've seen this thing, and this is 340 00:15:31,880 --> 00:15:33,680 Speaker 1: the last thing I have for you, man, and I 341 00:15:33,720 --> 00:15:35,680 Speaker 1: always appreciate checking in with you on Tuesdays. 342 00:15:35,680 --> 00:15:37,640 Speaker 2: I definitely love getting your perspective on all of it. 343 00:15:38,480 --> 00:15:42,440 Speaker 1: This is a this is a weird year, right especially 344 00:15:42,440 --> 00:15:44,840 Speaker 1: in the AFC, because we're seeing teams like Baltimore be 345 00:15:44,920 --> 00:15:49,960 Speaker 1: one and four, the Patriots are underwater, and we're seeing teams, 346 00:15:50,800 --> 00:15:54,120 Speaker 1: I don't know, like outthink themselves a lot more, it 347 00:15:54,120 --> 00:15:57,200 Speaker 1: feels like, and it's impacting all sorts of things, especially 348 00:15:57,280 --> 00:15:59,480 Speaker 1: the offensive play, but special teams. 349 00:15:59,480 --> 00:16:02,800 Speaker 2: We're seeing a lot of late game moments happening. 350 00:16:02,840 --> 00:16:05,680 Speaker 1: You guys, of course experienced that in your win earlier 351 00:16:05,680 --> 00:16:08,360 Speaker 1: this year over the Packers. But it just feels like 352 00:16:08,880 --> 00:16:12,200 Speaker 1: teams kind of get a little too clever at times, 353 00:16:12,520 --> 00:16:15,200 Speaker 1: and we're seeing it in fastest of the game, especially 354 00:16:15,200 --> 00:16:17,040 Speaker 1: on special teams, but on offense as well. 355 00:16:17,040 --> 00:16:18,560 Speaker 2: Do you see some similar things to that. 356 00:16:19,440 --> 00:16:21,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think a lot of teams try to do 357 00:16:21,360 --> 00:16:23,400 Speaker 3: too much and get too clever with it and they 358 00:16:23,440 --> 00:16:26,760 Speaker 3: haven't even matched the fundamentals yet. And I think that's 359 00:16:26,840 --> 00:16:30,280 Speaker 3: where you fall into these issues, into and into these problems. 360 00:16:30,640 --> 00:16:34,160 Speaker 3: And you look at it on special teams and you 361 00:16:34,160 --> 00:16:35,720 Speaker 3: look at you look at it all over and it's 362 00:16:35,760 --> 00:16:39,640 Speaker 3: just people. They already don't do their job. And then 363 00:16:39,680 --> 00:16:41,040 Speaker 3: you go out there and you try to add a 364 00:16:41,120 --> 00:16:43,680 Speaker 3: ripple or something else, and then it just called it's 365 00:16:43,720 --> 00:16:46,720 Speaker 3: just not the useful. Teams that we see out there 366 00:16:46,840 --> 00:16:50,520 Speaker 3: aren't playing like how they usually play. Like we're seeing 367 00:16:50,560 --> 00:16:56,400 Speaker 3: Baltimore make mistakes that we don't ever see because we 368 00:16:56,520 --> 00:16:59,760 Speaker 3: all know that Harvard is a special teams like lead coach, 369 00:17:00,040 --> 00:17:02,480 Speaker 3: he's always harped on specialty. And they make a mistake 370 00:17:02,520 --> 00:17:06,000 Speaker 3: some specialty and and and that's the unusual part of 371 00:17:06,040 --> 00:17:08,080 Speaker 3: the season. It's like teams that don't make these type 372 00:17:08,080 --> 00:17:10,280 Speaker 3: of mistakes, like when do we see Poddy Mahomes throwing 373 00:17:10,320 --> 00:17:11,400 Speaker 3: pick sixes? That's the one our. 374 00:17:11,320 --> 00:17:13,199 Speaker 2: Life, I know, right, you know what I mean? 375 00:17:13,240 --> 00:17:15,280 Speaker 3: Like literally like this is like you said, it's just 376 00:17:15,280 --> 00:17:18,440 Speaker 3: so weird a year right now. That's that's that's that's 377 00:17:18,480 --> 00:17:21,199 Speaker 3: that's thing we usually see, so you know, and and 378 00:17:21,240 --> 00:17:22,840 Speaker 3: then also I think about this, like the end of 379 00:17:22,880 --> 00:17:25,120 Speaker 3: the game in Jacksonville, we've seen Trevor Lawrence falls the ground. 380 00:17:25,200 --> 00:17:28,639 Speaker 3: That's just that game over, you know, game over. But 381 00:17:28,680 --> 00:17:34,800 Speaker 3: then he falls again and runs in so you know 382 00:17:34,920 --> 00:17:37,760 Speaker 3: it's it's like this is you know, this is a 383 00:17:38,040 --> 00:17:40,120 Speaker 3: is a crazy year. But this is also why we 384 00:17:40,280 --> 00:17:44,520 Speaker 3: love this sports because there's a bunch of stuff happening 385 00:17:44,600 --> 00:17:46,560 Speaker 3: that we would never have been suspected if you would 386 00:17:46,560 --> 00:17:48,159 Speaker 3: have told us this in the beginning of the season. 387 00:17:48,240 --> 00:17:51,280 Speaker 3: So this is this is what makes football so special. 388 00:17:51,680 --> 00:17:53,159 Speaker 1: I can't wait to watch you guys take on the 389 00:17:53,200 --> 00:17:54,119 Speaker 1: Steelers on Sunday. 390 00:17:54,119 --> 00:17:54,280 Speaker 3: Man. 391 00:17:54,359 --> 00:17:56,480 Speaker 2: Appreciate you as always, Shelby. We'll check in with you 392 00:17:56,480 --> 00:17:56,840 Speaker 2: next week. 393 00:17:56,880 --> 00:17:59,000 Speaker 3: Brother, all right, talk to you guys. Let a man. 394 00:17:59,080 --> 00:18:00,760 Speaker 2: Thank you all, Shelby Harris