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Speaker 2: We call them life situations because they can change anywhere

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Speaker 2: one five three four, Keith. Welcome to the Jesus Christ Show.

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Speaker 3: Hi, Jesus, Hi Keith.

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Speaker 4: How can I help you?

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Speaker 5: I have a question for you.

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Speaker 3: Was Mary born without original sin? And or did it

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Speaker 3: happen after conception?

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Speaker 2: What you mean sin? What happened after conception hers?

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Speaker 4: Or mine?

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Speaker 6: No?

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Speaker 3: After her conception?

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Speaker 7: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: So the Immaculate Conception is basically is dogma to the

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Speaker 2: Catholic Church as of about eighteen.

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Speaker 4: Fifty four, and that is.

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Speaker 2: The belief that Mary was born without sin from the womb,

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Speaker 2: she was protected, and that my mother was without sin.

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Speaker 2: Protestants do not believe this. This is one of the

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Speaker 2: tenants and the separations of the Church. Of course, Protestants

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Speaker 2: and then you had Catholics, the universal Church separate into Protestants,

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Speaker 2: and so the Protestants, the Protestants do not believe in

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Speaker 2: the virgin birth. And there's a couple of reasons why

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Speaker 2: so we'll go from scripture, not from dogma. With respect

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Speaker 2: to our Catholic brothers and sisters, there is no place

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Speaker 2: in scripture that says Mary is without sin as a

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Speaker 2: matter of as a matter of fact, there is scripture

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Speaker 2: after scripture after scripture that says there is no one

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Speaker 2: except Christ who is sinless. So that's a really, you know,

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Speaker 2: a problematic when you read Romans three twenty three saying

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Speaker 2: eight through ten. If we say we have no sin,

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Speaker 2: If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just

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Speaker 2: are throughout Scripture many cases where it talks about that

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Speaker 2: Also, Mary, my mother refers to me in scripture as savior,

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Speaker 2: Savior of what the being the savior is to refer

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Speaker 2: the fall in the garden. So ultimately it's it's a

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Speaker 2: That is outside of scripture. There's nothing in scripture that

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Speaker 2: There are some historians and theologians that believe, and keep

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Speaker 2: depends where you land on those things. But scripturally, which

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Speaker 6: Dear Jesus, thank you. I'm grateful for taking my call.

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Speaker 6: I've tried for a long time quickly and I hope

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Speaker 5: Oh no, sane what I want to say.

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Speaker 6: I've for the last couple of years now, I've been

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Speaker 6: doing re search on the Holy Spirit. It was just

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Speaker 6: think it's anumalogy if I pronounced that correctly. There's things

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Speaker 6: And somewhere somewhere in my research, I came across something

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Speaker 6: and they disagree. They say that there is there is

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Speaker 6: articulating and correct. I read that we can commit sins

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Speaker 2: So they come from similar places, but one is the

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Speaker 2: is something in scripture that is called the blasphemy of

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Speaker 2: So I'm going to even know even though that every

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Speaker 2: If you're driving, heaven forbid down a road towards a

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Speaker 2: certainly will pass, and it is lined with loved ones,

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Speaker 2: continue to drive. And then people say, stop, Gloria, there's

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Speaker 2: Your realization now is confirmed. Oh my gosh, they were right.

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Speaker 2: There is no going back after that. You've ignored everything

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Speaker 4: It's done. That is the conviction of your belief.

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Speaker 2: That is the finalization the consequences of your decision, your

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Speaker 2: So you need that process of the Spirit bringing you

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Speaker 6: Is there is there any scripture that that I can

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Speaker 6: It's not about.

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Speaker 2: A literal scripture where you read this one thing. It's

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Speaker 2: We know that the Holy Spirit brings people to me,

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Speaker 2: Merry Christmas to you and your family. Happy to be

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Speaker 2: do this live every single Christmas Eve. Spend time together.

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Speaker 2: If you have a question, let's talk to Christopher, who's

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Speaker 2: been incredibly patient. Welcome to the Jesus Christ Show.

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Speaker 7: Hi Jesus, the Happy Birthday.

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Speaker 4: Why thank you.

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Speaker 7: I have a couple of questions for you. Okay, I

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Speaker 7: was wondering how come you were uh nailed. I guess

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Speaker 7: I wouldn't saying I don't know if nailed is the

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Speaker 7: correct word, right? How come you were like nailed in

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Speaker 7: saw black coming out your hands and your feet. And

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Speaker 7: my second question is how how did you first rise

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Speaker 2: Well, actually there's a there's a lot to unravel there,

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Speaker 2: uh Christopher. For a couple of things. One, yes, nailed pierced,

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Speaker 2: Uh nailed to the cross. That was I wasn't the

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Speaker 2: a post. That was cruci fixion was something that predates

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Speaker 2: see the piercing. Yes, piercing didn't rise from the dead

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Speaker 2: on Christmas. Christmas, the celebration of Christmas is actually my birth.

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Speaker 8: I asked that a question I believe in scripture refers

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Speaker 8: I was wondering if that was an inference to the

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Speaker 4: What are your thoughts on that?

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Speaker 2: Okay, So this causes people confusion because of translations. If

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Speaker 4: The word was with God. The word was God.

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Speaker 2: And that's very specific as to who I was in

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Speaker 4: So here monogenous.

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Speaker 2: The Greek word is used to say one of a kind,

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Speaker 4: Because I've predate my birth.

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Speaker 2: There are times they're called Christophanes in scripture where you

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Speaker 2: Merry Christmas to you and your family. May it be

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Speaker 4: Stephen, Welcome to the Jesus Christ Show.

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Speaker 5: Hello, unhappy anniversary of birth, my holy host.

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Speaker 4: Thank you. How can I help you today, Stephen?

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Speaker 5: Well, question regarding I guess the church history more or

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Speaker 5: Church after your death, did Church determine this period to

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Speaker 2: It's interesting that you asked that, because if you go

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Speaker 2: that out. Christmas comes from Christ's Mass. It's an old

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Speaker 2: Carolyn came later. But if you look at early history,

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Speaker 2: you'll find that a lot of it was filled with debauchery.

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Speaker 2: I mean, there were a lot of people that celebrated,

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Speaker 2: Welcome to The Jesus Christ Show.

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Speaker 7: Oh yes, hello, good afternoon.

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Speaker 1: Hi.

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Speaker 7: Hi. I was wondering if it's bad to watch Fatal

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Speaker 7: some reason, it gives me solace. It's kind of soothing you.

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Speaker 2: Thank God you're not in that relationship. What's the solace?

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Speaker 7: Well, because she gets revenge.

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Speaker 2: Oh well, I'm not sure if revenge is healthy, but

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Speaker 2: I guess if I had to choose before between you

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Speaker 2: that's probably better. But I'm not crazy about the revenge

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Speaker 2: part Kathy. But no, there's nothing wrong with watching it.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to the Jesus Christ Show.

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Speaker 4: You're the big finale. How can I help you?

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I was just wondering, like, don't you do you

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Speaker 9: feel like it's blasphemy even maybe for you to be

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Speaker 9: speaking in you know, like if and you know you're

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Speaker 9: our Lord and savior for the first show, you know,

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Speaker 9: even though you're answering questions, but just to be speaking

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Speaker 9: in the first person.

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Speaker 4: As if you were here.

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Speaker 2: That's an excellent question and a great one to end on. No,

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Speaker 2: the concept of the program, if you listen to it,

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Speaker 2: ever take credit for the words of God than God himself.

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Speaker 2: So on this program, if you listen carefully, all glory

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Speaker 2: goes to God. All words are from God, and no

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Speaker 2: Christ himself. And if you understand the interaction of let's

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Speaker 2: call it radio theater, it's a powerful tool. And may

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Speaker 2: all the words go out in His name and no

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Speaker 2: one else's. Have a merry Christmas, be kind to each other,

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Speaker 2: have empathy, and remember the true reason of the season.

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