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Speaker 1: All right, let's see keep talking to college basketball. Last

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Speaker 1: night we checked in with Peter Souter or the Miami RedHawks.

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Speaker 1: They're dancing. Let's talk Right State Raiders. They won the outright,

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Speaker 1: the Horizon League regular season title and the tournament championship

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Speaker 1: in the same season for the first time in program history.

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Speaker 1: They're NCAA tournament bound. Fourteen seed Raiders are twenty three

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Speaker 1: and eleven winners of eighteen or the last twenty two.

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Speaker 1: They take on three seed Virginia Friday at won fifty.

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Speaker 1: My next guest is in his second season as coach

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Speaker 1: the Year. What a treat to welcome in Head coach

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Speaker 1: Clint Sargent.

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Speaker 2: Coach Lionce Bacallister, How are you, Lance, I'm doing great.

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Speaker 2: I know you're busy down there in Cincinnati in the

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Speaker 2: sports world, so I appreciate you having us on.

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Speaker 1: Well it is so it is so great catching up

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Speaker 1: with you and what a season. Congrats and man, of

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Speaker 1: all the things that happened. As I see you guys celebrating,

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Speaker 1: I saw a photo of you, your wife and your

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Speaker 1: five kids at center court. What a moment to share

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's been, it's been. It's been awesome. And actually,

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Speaker 2: as I as I was preparing to get on the

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Speaker 2: phone with you, maybe one of my biggest accomplishments was

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Speaker 2: getting our five month old down for his nap right

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Speaker 2: it's it's been special. You know, all the all the

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Speaker 2: highs and lows you go through, especially leading being the

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Speaker 2: head coach, to have those mountaintop moments with your family

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Speaker 2: is really what it's all about, coach.

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Speaker 1: With those just by looking the five ages, you and

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Speaker 1: You can't go man to man and keep track of them,

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Speaker 1: can you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, playing zone and we're not very good at it.

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Speaker 2: We're taking a lot of losses, but we're hating.

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Speaker 1: Your team rallied down twelve to win the Horizon title

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Speaker 1: last week. My wife and I were courtside two weeks

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Speaker 1: against NKU. You've got a group that does not slench

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we do. We have a and I think that

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Speaker 2: Northern Kentucky game, the Raylar season, end of the Rayular

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Speaker 2: Having a championship DNA to know you can be you know,

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Speaker 2: of growth for our team. And we're deeper and we

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Speaker 2: have a number of guys that have made big shots

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Speaker 2: throughout the year, and then we just have a very

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Speaker 2: I think. I know it gets used a lot in

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Speaker 2: so all those moments where you're really trying to be

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Speaker 1: Your first season was a challenge at times last year

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Speaker 1: fifteen and eighteen, but I would think some of that

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Speaker 2: Exactly right, you know, And it's really been a huge

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Speaker 2: And I think just for young people, create an environment

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Speaker 1: Boy, I would I would think another thing that will

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Speaker 2: And then again with our deep team, we've been able

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Speaker 1: You've got to guard. TJ. Birch numbers one hundred and

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Speaker 2: like our team has better basketball ahead, and obviously we're

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Speaker 1: We see some rosters around the country, fourth year, fifty

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Speaker 1: Right States going to the NCAA tournament, we're talking a

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Speaker 1: Some teams didn't find out, of course, till Sunday they

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Speaker 1: you guys played a week ago today for the last time.

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Speaker 1: You'd been an assistant at Right State under the former

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Speaker 1: You get a Virginia team that's twenty nine and five.

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Speaker 1: What as you've watched and studied and taken a deep dive,

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Speaker 2: There's just at a lot of weakness there. Uh. You know,

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Speaker 2: you know, that pressure shifts, and our group is used

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Speaker 2: We will take off tomorrow morning, get out to Philly

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Speaker 2: you find out who you're playing, everything moves so quickly.

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Speaker 2: This has been This has been great because you get

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Speaker 2: have a couple of days before Friday, and then we'll

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Speaker 2: get to it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I know, these these are crazy hectic times. You've

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Speaker 1: been pestered to do stuff like this. I really appreciate

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Speaker 1: you making time tonight. I really enjoyed this, and best

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Speaker 1: of luck to you guys.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Land anytime, I'll hop on with you. I appreciate

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Speaker 2: the time.

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Speaker 1: Sounds good. Thanks coach, take care, Thank you. All right,

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Speaker 1: there you go, Clint Sergeant, head coach of the Right

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Speaker 1: State Raiders, winners of eighteen of their life twenty two. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: the freshman Kellen Pickett was the Horizon League Freshman of

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Speaker 1: the Year and Michael Cooper, a freshman, leads them just

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Speaker 1: over thirteen points a game as a as a freshman

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Speaker 1: playing good basketball. Let's take a time out to come back,

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Speaker 1: head down the stretch to let's see how it was again.

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