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Speaker 1: three after four, ESPN fifteen to thirty, Moneger, thanks for listening.

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Speaker 1: You're gonna hear You're gonna hear some Phillies experts on

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Speaker 1: Nick Castianos, who the Reds are probably not gonna sign,

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Speaker 1: that here in just about fifteen minutes. Mike de Corsi

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Speaker 1: from the Sporting News, among other places, on college basketball.

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Speaker 1: He's actually written a column on the Miami RedHawks. That

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Speaker 1: conversation coming up at about thirty minutes, plus the fifteen

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Speaker 1: years that everybody forgets, and something we touched on a

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Speaker 1: little bit yesterday begging the Bengals to play nice with

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Speaker 1: Trey Hendrickson. I don't want to make people wait any longer,

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Speaker 1: so I won't fact. Uh, you saw somebody drop off,

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Speaker 1: which I hate. Mister Ace. You're on ESPN fifteen thirty.

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Speaker 1: Mister Ace, how are you, man, what with you today?

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Speaker 3: Mon? I gotta say early happy Valentine's Bank.

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Speaker 1: To you and the missus man likewise, likewise, thanks very much.

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Speaker 1: What's on your mind?

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Speaker 2: Man?

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Speaker 3: I am passing out Valentine's Tips sports tips as well

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Speaker 3: as to the listening audience.

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Speaker 1: Let's go. What do you got?

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Speaker 3: Let me see Valentine's Tips Number one for the Cincinnati Rids.

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Speaker 3: Do right by your fans. Do right by your fan,

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Speaker 3: open up your little Penny Wilder or something like that.

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Speaker 3: Bob stick is something like a nickel or whatever you

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Speaker 3: gotta do.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if there's a ticket price increase. I

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Speaker 1: don't know that it's gonna go on by a nickel,

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Speaker 1: but yes, do right by your fans. We've waited long enough.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. If you do that, I think you will not

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Speaker 3: only get a couple of more fans.

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Speaker 4: Man.

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Speaker 3: Plus, I even got riding in the ride today. Was

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Speaker 3: we scoop up the young kittos? Riding along my next

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Speaker 1: Okay, uncle d Okay, Hey, what's.

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Speaker 3: Going what's going on?

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Speaker 5: Man?

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Speaker 6: Hey?

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Speaker 3: I got one thing to say about the rigs.

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Speaker 1: Okay, go ahead.

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Speaker 3: I'm a long time life lifelong fan.

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Speaker 3: People missing work coming down there for Opening Day, and

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Speaker 1: Well, you could do both, right, I mean you you

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Speaker 1: We just scored. Again. I'm not sure how good Italy's

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Speaker 3: Yeah, nah, he gets.

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Speaker 7: I think that you could probably do both. But I

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Speaker 1: On, man, twenty twelve. But yes, you are correct, okay, twelve.

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Speaker 1: It's there's been way too long right now, right now

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Speaker 1: I got you what man?

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Speaker 3: Also dropping these Examon, Paris tills, man Fellers, ladies, spare

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Speaker 1: That's right. Yes, uh, you know, my wife and I

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Speaker 2: No.

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Speaker 5: I just had a scary situation with medicine that almost

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Speaker 1: So anyway, but you don't have to send a nasty email.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, okay, and I get it. I get it. Thank

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Speaker 5: you for correcting me, Dad, Okay, the uh, I think

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Speaker 1: Sports bracketologist loves the post Super Bowl segment where he

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Speaker 1: has to catch everybody up who has been too busy

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Speaker 1: watching football to watch any college basketball and what's happening

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Speaker 1: in college hoops. So I appreciate you doing this as always, Mike.

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Speaker 1: How are you?

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Speaker 2: I am great?

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Speaker 3: Mo?

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Speaker 4: And I always admire the people who spent their entire

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Speaker 4: weeks breaking down game film making sure they're at top

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Speaker 4: of like what the Patriots are up to, because you.

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Speaker 2: Can't find two hours to watch a college hoops game, right.

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Speaker 1: Well, not when you're doing mock drafts and preparing your

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Speaker 1: free agency big board.

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Speaker 2: No, no, it happens.

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Speaker 1: It happened. You've been kind enough to join me. For years,

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Speaker 1: we've never started our conversations by talking about the Miami RedHawks,

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Speaker 1: but here we are. You've written about them. You know,

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Speaker 1: it's funny we do this. We did this with UC

464
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Speaker 1: football in twenty twenty one, where there's like preemptive anger.

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Speaker 1: What's gonna happen if they win every game and don't

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Speaker 1: get into the college football playoffs? We're doing that with Miami.

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Speaker 1: But I can't help but ask if they run the

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Speaker 1: table in the regular season and then stub their toe

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Speaker 1: in Cleveland in the MAC Tournament, how are they going

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Speaker 1: to be viewed by the committee?

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Speaker 4: Well, if that happens, First of all, it depends on

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Speaker 4: when they stub their toe. It depends a little, at

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Speaker 4: least a little. You wouldn't want to do that in

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Speaker 4: the quarters. And given the fact that it'll probably work

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Speaker 4: out that Kenton Ackron would be in the opposite semi

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Speaker 4: so you couldn't face either of them. If I'm if

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Speaker 4: it turns out the way one would expect.

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Speaker 2: You couldn't face either of them until the final.

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Speaker 4: Then even a semi loss wouldn't look great because there

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Speaker 4: are only three really good teams.

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Speaker 2: In the MAC this year. I'm not saying that everybody

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Speaker 2: else is awful, but.

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Speaker 4: They're not as I As I wrote in my column today,

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Speaker 4: which you can find if you're a if you're a

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Speaker 4: RedHawks fan, you can find it at TSN Mike Today,

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Speaker 4: the MAC has always been the most balance of conferences,

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Speaker 4: and this time it just happens that the balance is

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Speaker 4: all at five hundred or below. The excellences with Kent

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Speaker 4: and Miami and of course Akron, but the rest kind

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Speaker 4: of not having a great year. So my recommendation would

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Speaker 4: be to win them all at least until the final,

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Speaker 4: and then I think that if you lose in the

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Speaker 4: final to Akron or Kent, there's just no way you

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Speaker 4: could say no to them, And for me, it would

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Speaker 4: then just be a question of how high they get seated,

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Speaker 4: would they have to go through Dayton, that sort of thing.

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Speaker 4: And it's hard to know now exactly what the parameters

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Speaker 4: would be for them in that circumstance, because you don't

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Speaker 4: know what everybody else is doing in that neighborhood. But

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Speaker 4: I would I would think the word I used was ridiculous.

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Speaker 4: I think if that in that scenario, the one I presented,

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Speaker 4: they were excluded.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, Travis Steel has had an answer, including

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Speaker 1: with us, a lot of questions about his schedule, and

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Speaker 1: he's you know, look, hey, I've we've tried to schedule everybody.

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Speaker 1: We can't get anybody to play us. And I don't

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Speaker 1: buy that. Go ahead, go ahead, Yeah, that's.

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Speaker 2: That's not that's that's not true.

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Speaker 4: I mean, look, if you call Duke and Duke says no,

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Speaker 4: obviously we tried, you know, and I'm not I'm not

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Speaker 4: holding this just to Travis. This is the entire mid

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Speaker 4: major operation, with the exception of Akron and a few others.

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Speaker 2: Akron, like you look at akron schedule a year.

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Speaker 4: Ago and John knew he had a stud team. He

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Speaker 4: knew they were gonna be really good. John Gross for

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Speaker 4: those who don't know that, he's the coach at Akron.

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Speaker 4: Right when John knew he had a really good team,

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Speaker 4: they played Saint Mary's, they played a lot of other teams.

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Speaker 4: What the what the mid majors often do, And again,

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Speaker 4: this is not about Travis, because I don't think he

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Speaker 4: realized they were going to be this good. I think

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Speaker 4: he thought they would be a MAC contender, not what

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Speaker 4: they are. Okay, So what they often do is say, okay,

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Speaker 4: well we can't get a game against Indiana or Kentucky

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Speaker 4: or whomever, and then they just go ahead and do

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Speaker 4: whatever and they and then they blame it on the system.

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Speaker 4: And that's just like what I always say is, look,

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Speaker 4: there's a lot of teams I can give you right now, Okay,

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Speaker 4: as I'm looking at the resume metrics here at number

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Speaker 4: thirty five is Miami, Okay.

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Speaker 2: Number thirty eight is Santa Clara.

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Speaker 4: Number number forty four is VCU, Number forty five is

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Speaker 4: New Mexico. Number forty nine is San Diego State. Number

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Speaker 4: fifty one is Belmont, Number fifty four is George Mason.

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Speaker 2: Number fifty five is Liberty.

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Speaker 4: They are all top fifty five teams in the resume

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Speaker 4: metric average. And did they play one another like and

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Speaker 4: help enhance their resumes like that? No, you don't know why,

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Speaker 4: for the same reason that a lot of teams that

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Speaker 4: are in the high major level don't play a lot

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Speaker 4: of other high major teams because they don't want to

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Speaker 4: diminish their records and their chances of getting in, So

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Speaker 4: I don't have any sympathy in that regard. I have

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Speaker 4: a lot of sympathy for, hey, wow, we're really good.

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Speaker 4: I mean, we're winning every game and like, and everybody's

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Speaker 4: dissing that. No, like if it were easy, Like for

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Speaker 4: twenty five years, somebody's had the three hundred and forty

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Speaker 4: third schedule, which is what it was the last time

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Speaker 4: I looked at for twenty five years, and none of

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Speaker 4: them came close to going undefeated. So even if you're

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Speaker 4: playing the three hundred and forty third schedule, what they're

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Speaker 4: doing is really hard and so hard that no one's

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Speaker 4: even coming close to it. So please don't tell me

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Speaker 4: it's a product of the schedule. Does this schedule impact it? Yes,

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Speaker 4: but you still have to go out and win every

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Speaker 4: basketball game, and that's astonishingly difficult.

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Speaker 1: No question, And from my perspective, a lot of fun

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Speaker 1: to watch that campus community, which that program's been dormant

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Speaker 1: for this century, watch that campus community come alive. The

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Speaker 1: season is not going great at the University of Cincinnati,

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Speaker 1: barring a miracle. How do you anticipate things playing out

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Speaker 1: Clifton Boy.

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Speaker 4: It's hard to say, really because you know, you know

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Speaker 4: what the buyout details are and what the disappointment for

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Speaker 4: me is that I know that that West is a

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Speaker 4: very capable coach, but I think there has been too

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Speaker 4: much chasing talent and not enough building a program, not

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Speaker 4: enough building a culture, a winning culture.

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Speaker 2: This is who we are, this is what we do.

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Speaker 2: It's what Mix succeeded at at.

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Speaker 4: A high level early on in a very difficult Big

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Speaker 4: East where they had to make the transition from a

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Speaker 4: find an American conference to an excellent Big East and

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Speaker 4: he had to do that with very few talented players

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Speaker 4: because of the end of the Huggins regime. But he

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Speaker 4: set a standard and I think that's where Wes has

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Speaker 4: missed that they haven't set the standard for this is

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Speaker 4: who we're.

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Speaker 2: Going to be.

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Speaker 4: I never really know what they're going to be now

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Speaker 4: from night to night, but from year to year, I

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Speaker 4: just didn't know exactly what Cincinnati Basketball wanted to be.

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Speaker 4: And that's that's the frustrating part about watching this develop

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Speaker 4: over the last four or five years.

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Speaker 1: You know, I talk about the Houston Cougars all the time,

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Speaker 1: and to the annoyance I'm sure of some of my

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Speaker 1: audience because what I love most about that program is

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Speaker 1: I can close my eyes and I can picture a

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Speaker 1: Houston player. I know what that team is going to

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Speaker 1: look like. And over the last couple of years they've

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Speaker 1: been more refined offensively than you know what they were

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Speaker 1: when when Kelvin Sampson really started winning there. And I

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Speaker 1: always say, like, I admire what they are able to

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Speaker 1: do in an era where it's increasingly difficult to have

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Speaker 1: a program identity because of all of the roster turnover.

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Speaker 1: So how much for a program like you see where

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Speaker 1: you just don't know year and and year out what

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Speaker 1: you're going to get can you attribute just to the

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Speaker 1: era that we're in where year to year you may

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Speaker 1: have a new.

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Speaker 4: Team, but that's everybody, so that that's the universe in

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Speaker 4: which you're competing, So you're your struggle within that era

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Speaker 4: is either to do a good enough job of building,

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Speaker 4: like I said, with with what you want to be,

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Speaker 4: of retaining the players who fit that and and want

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Speaker 4: to be part of it, and or generating enough funds

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Speaker 4: to make sure either of those things happen. And I

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Speaker 4: you know, the third part of that is probably the

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Speaker 4: one that's in the least element.

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Speaker 2: Of control for the coach.

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Speaker 4: But the first two are are are very much within

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Speaker 4: your control. Whether it produces victories or not is not,

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Speaker 4: but what you want to be as a team is

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Speaker 4: within your control. And I've seen coaches and programs make

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Speaker 4: the mistake of you look at k State, which.

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Speaker 2: Came in and had the when when Jerome Tank took over,

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Speaker 2: they came.

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Speaker 4: In and he had the elite aid and and I

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Speaker 4: think they got really excited about that about what could happen,

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Speaker 4: and they went out chasing talent and they and they

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Speaker 4: forgot about the fact that Marquise Noel stuck around at

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Speaker 4: a program where he wasn't where the guy who'd recruited

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Speaker 4: him had left, and he could have easily gone out

624
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Speaker 4: and gone somewhere else and said, okay, I'm you know,

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Speaker 4: I'm I'm I'm on the.

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Speaker 2: Market, so to speak. And he stuck around and they

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Speaker 2: had culture that year.

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Speaker 8: And you'd see that at places around the country, even Kansas,

629
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Speaker 8: a championship team in twenty twenty two, went chasing talent

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Speaker 8: subsequent to that and.

631
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Speaker 2: Had two of the worst years Bill selves.

632
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Speaker 4: Had and they went back to saying, okay, wait a second, Okay,

633
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Speaker 4: we're still going to get there in Peterson. We can

634
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Speaker 4: get him, but we're gonna get guys like Melvin Counsel.

635
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Speaker 4: And they recruited flor badilin get to to build with

636
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Speaker 4: and now they they have their program again. He's one

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Speaker 4: of the greatest coaches of all time, so and he's

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Speaker 4: got one.

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Speaker 2: He's coaching one of the greatest programs of all time.

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Speaker 2: So the path is a little bit easier, but.

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Speaker 4: It's still a function of he realized that he had

642
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Speaker 4: made a mistake in how he was approaching it and

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Speaker 4: then went and adopted and he adopted the course he

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Speaker 4: followed for years.

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Speaker 1: Mike de Coursey from The Sporting News is with us.

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Speaker 1: There was a time in mid November I thought Xavier

647
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Speaker 1: might win between six and eight games. They've exceeded that. Yeah, No,

648
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Speaker 1: I mean I watched them, not just against Santa Clara

649
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Speaker 1: where they got destroyed, but i watched them play a

650
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Speaker 1: game against Lemoyne and I'm going like, what is this?

651
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Speaker 1: And They've had some games get away from him, some

652
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Speaker 1: winnable games. It still has felt to me like Richard

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Speaker 1: Patino has gotten as much out of that group of

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Speaker 1: players as you could ask any coach, what's your assessment

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Speaker 1: if you're one of the Richard Patino ear Xavier.

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Speaker 4: And that's kind of exactly what I'm saying, is that

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Speaker 4: Richard has gone about setting a standard even though the

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Speaker 4: talent isn't there to compete at the top of the

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Speaker 4: Big East currently. Some of them might develop in that direction,

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Speaker 4: but those who stick around, either as if they're able

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Speaker 4: to become continue to be starters, or if they become

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Speaker 4: program players, they can still say, Okay, here's what here's

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Speaker 4: how you play for this guy, and here's how you

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Speaker 4: succeed to whoever comes in later. And I think that

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Speaker 4: he's done a terrific job in.

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Speaker 2: His first year.

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Speaker 4: I didn't love the roster construction, but I don't know

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Speaker 4: exactly when you could become a coach late. Different programs

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Speaker 4: have different parameters and different challenges, and so we both

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Speaker 4: looked at that roster and said that does not look good.

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Speaker 4: And when they went on the floor, it looked maybe

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Speaker 4: even less good than what we'd imagined. And yet they

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Speaker 4: have been highly competitive. I thought they were Saint John's

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Speaker 4: game this past Monday, and I know they did it

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Speaker 4: both times, but I'm not sure.

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Speaker 2: I watched the first one, but the second one.

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Speaker 4: I was really impressed with how hard they competed in

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Speaker 4: that game. And I think it bodes very well for

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Speaker 4: the future of Xavier basketball when they get back to

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Speaker 4: having a higher level of talent.

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Speaker 1: A little bit more than twenty four hours from now,

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Speaker 1: Kentucky could be in first place in the SEC. And

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Speaker 1: you know, watching them play at times this year, you

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Speaker 1: talk about a sentence I didn't think i'd be saying

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Speaker 1: in mid February, it's it's that, and give me the

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Speaker 1: same thing. Assessment of year two, Mark Pope Kentucky with

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Speaker 1: the injuries they've had.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I got really frustrated halfway through the year when

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Speaker 4: or maybe it wasn't even quite halfway in advance of

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Speaker 4: the Indiana and Saint John's wins, when people were totally

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Speaker 4: giving up on them. And and I don't think at

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Speaker 4: that point they've even gotten any play out of Jalen Low.

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Speaker 4: I don't think he'd even appeared on the floor. And

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Speaker 4: and I just couldn't believe how much criticism there was.

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Speaker 4: And I think some of it from the media comes

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Speaker 4: because they're in they're convenient target. You criticize Kentucky and

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Speaker 4: the Clicks go click click click, And I think that

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Speaker 4: was that was a good segment of that. But the

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Speaker 4: fan base, and maybe maybe we amplify.

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Speaker 2: Too much of the of the.

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Speaker 4: Extremes on a fan base when something like that happens,

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Speaker 4: and maybe we don't pay enough attention.

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Speaker 2: To what's going on at large in that group.

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Speaker 4: But I thought any reaction in that direction was preposterous.

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Speaker 4: I mean, a year ago, he had a terrific point

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Speaker 4: guard who started in the Final four elsewhere, of course,

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Speaker 4: Lamont Butler, who was injured two thirds of the way

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Speaker 4: through the season when he was trending toward a second

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Speaker 4: team All America season, and they still with that, and

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Speaker 4: with losing Jackson Robinson for the year, they still made

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Speaker 4: the Sweet sixteen.

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Speaker 2: And so like, how do you what do you think

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Speaker 2: he got stupid in three months?

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's not how life works.

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Speaker 4: So I've been pleased to see that he has reformulated

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Speaker 4: this group and found a way to be successful. And

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Speaker 4: that's what shows how really gifted he is that without

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Speaker 4: Jalen Lowe, he's found a way to be highly competitive

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Speaker 4: in an SEC that's going to send minimum nine teams

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Speaker 4: to the NCAA Tournament at maximum eleven that's.

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Speaker 5: Pretty good to be first, or checking or third.

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Speaker 2: In that league.

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Speaker 1: You may have heard many believe that college basketball is

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Speaker 1: at a tipping point, that the future of the sport

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Speaker 1: is in peril, despite the fact that the encore product

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Speaker 1: has been terrific this year. This year's infusion of talent

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Speaker 1: has been unbelievable. I read about the NCAA losing in

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Speaker 1: court with one glaring exception this week on what feels

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Speaker 1: like a daily basis, So I'm sure we could talk

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Speaker 1: about this for an hour. But is there is there

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Speaker 1: a common sense, realistic and that might be the right word,

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Speaker 1: realistic fix for college basketball to I don't know, rein

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Speaker 1: in a lot of the chaos that seems to compromise

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Speaker 1: a lot of people's relationship with the sport.

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Speaker 4: Well, the common sense approach is collective bargaining, but they

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Speaker 4: don't want to do that. That's why they've spent the

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Speaker 4: last two to three years, however long it's been since

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Speaker 4: Charlie Baker came in in court, excuse me, in Congress

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Speaker 4: and of course in court from the other direction. But

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Speaker 4: that's that's why it's been that way, because they don't

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Speaker 4: want to go in the collective bargaining direction because they

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Speaker 4: don't understand or don't seem to want to grasp that

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Speaker 4: it is possible to do that without designating the athletes

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Speaker 4: or accepting the athletes or whatever verbias you want to

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Speaker 4: use as employees. They don't have to be employees for

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Speaker 4: you to collectively bargain with them. And I know this

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Speaker 4: now because I was listening to one of the one

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Speaker 4: of the men who is trying to organize who's pushing

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Speaker 4: the unions or whatever or whatever you want to call him, association,

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Speaker 4: and he brought up the concept of the Screen Actors Guild,

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Speaker 4: where like, if you work on a.

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Speaker 2: TV show, you work for the TV show.

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Speaker 4: You don't work for the studio that funds or produces

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Speaker 4: that TV show or a movie. What Brad Pitt goes

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Speaker 4: to work on a picture, he works for that picture

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Speaker 4: and so and it's different. As a result, you don't

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Speaker 4: he doesn't get benefits from from I don't know, Fox

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Speaker 4: or United Artists or whoever's left producing films.

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Speaker 2: Gets he gets up, he gets.

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Speaker 4: A salary, and there are standards that have to be

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Speaker 4: met in terms of how he's treated and all that,

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Speaker 4: and and his fellow actors have a minimum in terms

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Speaker 4: of what they have to make. He's never worried about

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Speaker 4: the minimum, but they have different situations like that.

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Speaker 2: And I think that that can work in athletics.

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Speaker 4: I think it makes perfect sense and it translates very well,

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Speaker 4: and I think that's the one way.

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Speaker 2: We can get there.

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Speaker 1: Makes sense to me. I'm not going to be holding

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Speaker 1: my breath. We'll see. Can't thank you enough. Always awesome

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Speaker 1: to have you have a great weekend. Man, Thanks so much,

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Speaker 1: my pleasure mode.

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Speaker 2: Thank you.

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Speaker 1: That's the great mic de Corsi from the Sporting News

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Speaker 1: bracketologists for Fox Sports, and you see him on the

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Speaker 1: Big Ten Network. We did not air the Goldhorn during

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Speaker 1: the mic de Corsi interview. I don't my problem would

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Speaker 1: Nick Castianos admitted to having a beer in the dugout

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